Epstein Accusers Say Trump Is NOT Guilty | 9/4/25

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Episode Title: Epstein Accusers Say Trump Is NOT Guilty | 9/4/25
Air Date: September 4, 2025
Hosts: Pat Gray, Stu Burguiere (in for Glenn Beck)
Podcast: The Glenn Beck Program (Blaze Podcast Network)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into several high-profile topics, with a central focus on recent developments in the Jeffrey Epstein case—specifically, public statements from Epstein's accusers confirming that Donald Trump was not involved in inappropriate actions. The hosts also examine the media’s disproportionate focus on Trump, the possibility of a survivors-led list of Epstein associates, and the media’s avoidance of scrutinizing other political figures like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden.

The second half explores broader topics: the ethics and deterrence value of recent US military action against drug cartels, reactions to Malcolm Gladwell's public shift on transgender athletes in sports, a preview of contentious upcoming mayoral races, and a critique of political ignorance, particularly around the founding principles of American rights.

The episode maintains a sardonic and conversational tone, mixing substantive critique with characteristic Glenn Beck-style humor and directness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Accusers Clear Trump of Wrongdoing

• [05:16–08:24] The hosts play audio from a recent committee with Epstein survivors, who are directly asked if Donald Trump committed any wrongdoing related to Epstein. The survivors categorically state, "No."

  • Pat (05:30): "No. So now they're, we're not interested anymore. Oh, we're all out of time. Sorry."

• The hosts mock the media’s lack of follow-up when the narrative doesn't implicate Trump, highlighting the double standard in how questions are posed to different political figures.

  • Stu (06:02): "She wasn't required to ask any questions about Joe Biden."
  • Pat (06:08): "Bill Clinton, should you ask about? No need."

• They note the odd way media and conspiracy theorists try to tie "every freaking news story" to Trump, while substantial evidence about others is ignored.

2. Media Double Standards and Political Weaponization

• [08:29–12:45] The hosts discuss media hypocrisy:

  • The lack of tough questions for Joe Biden during his presidency, despite incoming information on Epstein.
  • Stu (10:32): "Can you at least address the fact that Joe Biden was there and you asked exactly zero questions about Jeffrey Epstein for four years..."

• They argue that if there were any legitimate evidence against Trump in Epstein’s files, the Biden administration would have used it "a long time ago."

• The discussion segues into the broader pattern of targeting Trump through any available means, sometimes stretching credibility.

3. Details on Epstein Victims’ Testimony

• [14:05–16:58] Focus on an Epstein victim, "minor victim number one," who was targeted from age 14, with the media referring to their relationship as a "relationship" rather than abuse.
  • Stu (15:15): "That's not a relationship, guys...If that's what your style guide is, you should leave the company immediately. Jared from Subway might be running it..."
• Story of Epstein providing lawyers to victims to protect himself and the challenges victims face coming forward years later.
• The hosts reiterate that despite efforts to "tie every news story" to Trump, he is not connected to the abuse.

4. The Cyclical Nature of the Epstein Story in Politics

• [17:07–19:46] The episode notes the resurgence of Epstein coverage as soon as it could be linked to current political narratives, underscoring how "newsworthiness" seems to coincide with political expediency, particularly concerning Trump.

5. Survivors Seek to Compile Their Own ‘List of Names’

• [21:13–23:51] Lisa Phillips, survivor, suggests survivors themselves should create a list of known abusers within Epstein's orbit since authorities claim "there is no list."
  • Pat (21:47): "We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidently compile the names."
• Congressmember Thomas Massie is pushing for a bill to release Epstein files with minimal redactions, signaling public desire for transparency and justice.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Stu (05:31):
"No. So now they're, we're not interested anymore. Oh, we're all out of time. Sorry."
(On accusers saying Trump did nothing wrong and the hypothetical media reaction.)

Stu (10:01):
"The idea that they went four years with information on Donald Trump sitting there in front of them and did nothing about it is quite possibly the most insane position ever taken by anyone."

Stu (15:15):
"Not a relationship, guys...Jared from Subway might be running [media style guides], but not a relationship."

Pat (21:47):
"We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidently compile the names...It'll be done by survivors for survivors. No one else is involved."

Pat (19:25):
"[Trump's] involvement in the case is not worth talking about. It has been investigated. It's open and shut. It doesn’t exist. There’s just nothing there."

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6. Trans Women in Women's Sports: Malcolm Gladwell’s Shift

• [25:34–36:30] Discussion of Malcolm Gladwell admitting he was cowed into supporting trans athletes competing in women’s sports at a 2022 panel, even though he disagreed with the idea.
  • Gladwell (paraphrased at 29:02): "At one point [the trans athlete] said, 'Ross, you have to let us win.' And it was at that moment that I realized the argument had gone to the furthest extreme."
• The hosts praise Gladwell’s honesty but note social media backlash for his "cowardice" at the time.
  • Stu (32:56): "My belief...is to say, hey, thanks for being on the right side now and admitting it."

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7. US Military Action Against Narco-Terrorists

• [44:58–61:18]
  • Review of recent US missile strike against a Venezuela-based cartel vessel, marking a hardline approach against narco-terrorism.
  • Stu (54:09): "It's a deterrent...A drone can be over your head and blow you up at any time is going to at least dissuade some drug dealers from attempting it."
  • Marco Rubio, JD Vance, and Judge Jeanine Pirro public statements reinforce the message of zero tolerance toward drug cartels targeting America.
• Hosts note the balance between legal authority and due process for terrorists vs. American citizens.

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8. America's Rights: Tim Kaine's Glaring Ignorance

• [89:33–98:55]
  • Senator Tim Kaine expresses the belief that rights come from government, not a Creator, alarming the hosts.
  • Stu (90:12): "It's one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen come out of a government official..."
  • Pat (90:35): "If they come from man, man can take them away. If they come from God, man can't take them away."
  • Ted Cruz’s response highlights the centrality of "unalienable rights" to America’s founding philosophy.
  • The hosts lament ignorance about the nation's founding, even among prominent officials.

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9. 2025 New York City Mayoral Race & Political Horse-Trading

• [67:29–80:42]
  • Rumors Trump may offer Mayor Eric Adams an administration role to consolidate the NYC anti-socialist vote and block radical candidate Zoran Mamdani.
  • Lively debate about the terrible options—Andrew Cuomo versus even further-left alternatives.
  • Humorous critique of Curtis Sliwa (“all he wants to do is stop you from getting a knife in your chest”), lamenting his lack of support despite his record.

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10. Miscellaneous Topics

• [38:19–43:32] Trans Athlete Boxing Ban: Hosts support bans on biological males competing in women's combat sports, state willingness to protect women even at the cost of being "extreme."
• [109:03–123:56] Football Culture, America’s Obsession: Comedic exploration of why Americans, including the hosts, are so obsessed with football — theorizing that it fulfills tribal/competitive instincts in a healthy, non-violent way.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Start Time | |-------------------------------------------------|------------| | Epstein accusers clear Trump | 05:16 | | Media double standards / Political weaponization | 08:29 | | Discussion of media & Biden administration | 10:01 | | Victims' testimony and survivors’ list | 14:05 | | Media and political cycles around Epstein | 17:07 | | Malcolm Gladwell on trans athletes | 25:34 | | US military strike on drug cartels | 44:58 | | Rights & the Founders (Tim Kaine discussion) | 89:33 | | NYC mayoral horse-trading & Curtis Sliwa | 67:29 | | Football obsession analysis | 109:03 |

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Tone and Style

The hosts use a conversational, sardonic, and sometimes acerbic tone, interspersed with in-jokes and asides. They frequently "break the fourth wall" to comment on media narratives, political hypocrisy, and cultural trends, blending insight with humor and direct audience engagement.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a critical analysis of the ongoing Epstein case through the lens of political manipulation and media bias, reinforced by first-person survivor testimony. It blends sobering commentary on justice with characteristic humor, detouring through cultural analysis of sports fandom and biting political critique. The central throughline is the danger of letting political or media expediency obscure facts and genuine accountability.

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Standout Quotes

Stu (15:15):
"That's not a relationship, guys...Jared from Subway might be running it, but not a relationship."

Pat (90:35):
"If [rights] come from man, man can take them away. If they come from God, man can't take them away."

Pat (21:47):
"We know the names. Many of us were abused by them...we will confidently compile the names."

Stu (73:05):
"Unlike most American cities...the people of New York have actually experimented with what it would be like to have a city run by a Republican. And what they have found is...the best periods...over the past century have been ones where a Republican was the mayor."

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is essential listening for those tracking media narratives around sex abuse scandals, the intersections of politics and law enforcement, and the shifting contours of political discourse in America. The frank, often comedic, critique of media and political figures provides both entertainment and important takeaways about bias, justice, and the endurance of foundational American principles.

Transcript

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[Pat]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenveck program. Yes. Welcome. Yeah. Patton, Stu. For Glenn this week, 888-727 Beck Epstein victims got together yesterday. And we will share with you some of their thoughts and what the plan is, I guess for some of these victims to get together and maybe come up with a list of names, which would be great. We'll get into that and much more. Coming up in 60 seconds.

[Stu]

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[Pat]

Yeah. All right, so there's a committee that's been put together and they've been interviewing some of the Epstein victims. And here, here they are talking about Donald Trump. They're at, they're asked a question about President Trump that is fairly interesting.

[Stu]

I do have to ask, and I.

[Pat]

Know, and he does have to ask.

[Stu]

That I think we're compelled to at this moment with the attention on President Trump with these questions around a pardon. Did anybody see or hear of the president himself doing anything inappropriate as it.

[Pat]

Related to Jeffrey Epstein?

[Stu]

No.

[Pat]

No. So now they're, we're not interested anymore. Oh, we're all out of time. Sorry.

[Stu]

What are you people even doing?

[Pat]

Why do we even get you Guys, together, we don't care anymore.

[Stu]

I will say, Pat, we are critical of the media at times. I'm glad that she was able to maintain her constitutional responsibility to ask that question. Yes, she had to.

[Pat]

Had to.

[Stu]

She has to ask it.

[Pat]

She has.

[Stu]

It's a requirement. It's the only thing that she's required to do as a journalist is to ask that question.

[Pat]

She wasn't required to ask any questions about Joe Biden.

[Stu]

No.

[Pat]

But. Oh, gosh. But she was required to ask that question.

[Stu]

Bill Clinton, should you ask about.

[Pat]

No, no need.

[Stu]

There's no need. There's no constitutional requirement to ask a question about him.

[Pat]

Even though the victims did mention that he was on a flight to Africa with one of the victims, at least now, how many times? What do you do? 27 flights with him? Something like that.

[Stu]

Every one of us can say we were on a flight with an internationally recognized creep and a bunch of their victims. We've all flown to Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, on a flight like that.

[Pat]

No, I don't recall ever having made that flight with anybody.

[Stu]

No.

[Pat]

Ever.

[Stu]

Really?

[Pat]

I've never been on.

[Stu]

Well, maybe you were probably connecting to a different location, but you did pass through Tanzania.

[Pat]

No, I actually didn't. I actually did. Really? Yeah. Isn't that weird? Can you say the only one? Am I? It's just me.

[Stu]

Think so. I'm looking around the studio. I mean, everyone's got it on their passports that they're holding up. I don't understand where you're coming. It's, you know, it's. Look, a lot of people interacted with this guy a lot, including Donald Trump. Be sure. Importantly, before we knew he was molesting children.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

The interactions after this knowledge is public. A bit questionable.

[Pat]

I like how. How Epstein's brother has said that it was Jeffrey Epstein who cut off contact with Trump after he realized that he didn't have any integrity. Like, oh, oh yeah, there's a guy who knows where he cares about the integrity of the people he hangs out with.

[Stu]

You know, I'm going to go ahead and just dissolve my interest in any statement made by the Epstein family, the.

[Pat]

Whole entire family, and just say suspect all.

[Stu]

No, thank you.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Stu]

I'm just going to say no thank you to all of them. That doesn't mean all of them were involved in Jeffrey's shenanigans, but I'm going to go ahead and just disregard things they say.

[Pat]

Huh?

[Stu]

That's just a general law of mine.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Stu]

Don't care.

[Pat]

You have to disregard the rest of the Epstein, just like she had to ask question, she got to disregard his family.

[Stu]

We all have trials and tribulations, burdens that we bear. That's one of mine.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Stu]

Got to make that rule. I know it's a tough one. It's. It's so fascinating, I think, when it comes to the way the media has acted, as if none of this information has been available before Donald Trump took office.

[Pat]

Yeah, he had.

[Stu]

Donald Trump has been in office for a few months. I would assume the investigation on Jeffrey Epstein, which is about a guy who is not alive and hasn't been alive for a while, about a case that largely occurred before 2008. Right. My guess is there's not been a lot of new information that's popped up in the past few months right now to us, some of it's been released. We've seen a few new things. Not much, but a few. But to the FBI, I don't think there's that much new information. It's fascinating that the media suddenly cares about this. We went through an entire administration when Joe Biden was president with, and I would say the number one goal of the administration was to sink Donald Trump in any way possible. Forget the fact that they wanted to spend us into oblivion or change all of our, you know, traditions and principles and all these other things. Sure. That was a side goal. I think their number one goal was to take out Donald Trump in any way necessary, including just manufacturing crimes all over the place.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

The idea that they went four years with information on Donald Trump sitting there in front of them and did nothing about it is quite possibly the most insane position ever taken by anyone. And the entire media just adopted it.

[Pat]

Yep. Yeah.

[Stu]

What the hell is going on? Can you at least address the fact that Joe Biden was there and you asked exactly zero questions about Jeffrey Epstein for four years when all of this information was in their hands.

[Pat]

It's incredible. It's really incredible.

[Stu]

It's incredible.

[Pat]

Like, a part of it is unbelievable.

[Stu]

A lot of people, by the way, on the right, were asking questions during that time.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

They didn't. Now, most of them did not think that Donald Trump had anything to do with it. With very good reason that there's never been even real accusation against Donald Trump as it is involved in this case. It's just, I think, a media conspiracy. They just decided to adopt the craziest people on TikTok and Twitter and act like it's a news story. Now Jeffrey Epstein is a news story. The whole thing is a massive thing. There's a lot we don't know about it, but to try to make the story about Donald Trump is just insane and honestly disrespectful to all the victims. The actual victims.

[Pat]

Yeah, like, yeah, they would have held onto this information the whole time. If Donald Trump had been mentioned in any of these files, if they had any information on him at all that he did anything inappropriate, the Biden administration would just held that close to the vest. You know, they would have used it a long time ago.

[Stu]

They tried to bankrupt him because he misreported allegedly the value of Mar A Lago as an expensive piece of real estate.

[Pat]

Incredible.

[Stu]

It's completely nuts they went to any extent to sink this guy.

[Pat]

Nobody's ever done that before, though. Donald Trump was the first. He was the first to overinflate the value of his property. Nobody's ever done that in the history of property.

[Stu]

By the way, weird to my eye, he didn't inflate the value of Mar A Lago. I would say he undercut it. There's no way you could purchase it for the price that they were saying the actual cost of it was.

[Pat]

But do you remember what the price was?

[Stu]

A number off the top of my head. But I remember thinking like, that doesn't sound inferior. You can't buy a normal house for.

[Pat]

That, let alone Mar A Lago.

[Stu]

Completely nuts. Now, look, all of this being said, and by the way, we should point out that you had to say that comment about Mar A Lago, you were required by the Constitution.

[Pat]

Yes, I had to say.

[Stu]

You had to ask.

[Pat]

I had to ask how much it was worth.

[Stu]

You had to.

[Pat]

Had to.

[Stu]

All of this being said, it's like, like the most obvious thing about the Biden administration, other than maybe that they were completely incompetent and that the President wasn't really alive for most of the term. Other than that, the most clear thing that we know is they would take information like, hey, we think you have a couple of documents and try to turn it into an international case that gets the guy thrown in prison. They tried this over and over and over and over again. Despite the fact that the current President of the United States at the time also had documents at his house.

[Pat]

Well, yeah, but that was in his garage, which was impenetrable. It was in his garage by his Corvette. So there was no access whatsoever to.

[Stu]

Any outside person, including, by the way, drug addict children. Those people could not get into that garage.

[Pat]

You can't get in there. It was impenetrable.

[Stu]

Definitely not from people who Were actively messaging foreign companies and promising that their dad was going to get revenge on them. That guy could walk into the garage at any time.

[Pat]

He couldn't get in there.

[Stu]

I mean, he couldn't.

[Pat]

Couldn't get in there.

[Stu]

By the way, you were required to.

[Pat]

I had to say that. Constitutionally required to say that you were.

[Stu]

The fact that, like, I just can't even believe it. Now they say that there was one of these victims that was on the Epstein list that was, I guess, minor victim number one in one of the cases, never been named before, has just come out publicly. And she was talking about how they, you know, I heard the media say that her and Jeffrey Epstein had a relationship starting at the time that she was 14. That's not a relationship, guys. Just so everybody is aware, if you happen to be out there thinking, I wonder if this is a relationship or not. A girl who's 14 hooking up with a creepy guy after a massage. Not a relationship. Just in case you're looking, I know they have those style guides at a lot of these media sources where they. If that's what your style guide is, you should leave the company immediately. Jared from Subway might be running it, but not a relationship. But stayed, apparently kept sleeping with him until she. She was 17. In which he broke it off for the reason that she was, quote, too old.

[Pat]

Oh, man.

[Stu]

Apparently told her this at the time. She panicked when she got a call from the FBI or one of the investigating sources. I don't remember which one it was. And she panicked. And she hadn't had any contact with Epstein for a year because she was too old at 17. Called Epstein and was like, hey, these people are calling me. What do I do? Epstein said to her, number one, never call me again. And number two, a lawyer will be reaching out to you.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

So she was represented in the case by a lawyer provided by Jeffrey Epstein initially. That's how he was covering these things.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

And so anyway, she didn't admit it at the time. She wound up admitting it a decade later. It was one of the reasons why he wound up getting arrested again anyway. But again, there's no tie to Donald Trump here. I know everyone in the entire world must tie every freaking news story to this one single individual. But I have news for you. He's not involved in every single news story. He's not involved in every single moment of your life. He's not involved in every single decision you make with your family. This is different. He is the President of the United States. Yes. He's an Important figure. He's actually a pretty historically important president. But he is not the end all, be all of every news story. And I know that's what the media wants. I guess I don't know if it gets him clicks or they just hate him so much and they just want to bring him up every single time.

[Pat]

But if it were an integral part of this story, we would have known about it 10, 15 years ago.

[Stu]

Of course we would have known about it.

[Pat]

It, there's no question about that. We would have heard that he did inappropriate things with some of these girls. We would have already heard about it long before now.

[Stu]

Of course. Of course he would have. I mean they're at the point, Pat, where they are going back and have watched like home videos of events that both Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were and are freeze framing segments where they walk by each other.

[Pat]

I know it's.

[Stu]

And releasing them as news stories. It's insanity.

[Pat]

And, and you know what he keeps calling this play? Cut to where he, he calls the, he's asked about the files again.

[Donald Trump]

So this is a Democrat hoax that never ends. You know, it reminds me a little of the Kennedy situation. We gave him everything over and over again, more and more and more and nobody's ever satisfied from what I understand. I could check, but from what I understand. And thousands of pages of documents have been given. But it's really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people to talk about something that's totally irrelevant to the success that we've had as a nation since I've been president.

[Pat]

Now we've had to look at, I mean, okay, we've talked about the success that he's had.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

But we've also talked about the Epstein situation because it's, it's not, I wish it were just a Democrat hoax. It isn't. There are actual victims here and the victims should have justice and the, the men who abused them should be brought to justice. But the Democrats didn't even care about this.

[Stu]

Right.

[Pat]

Until now.

[Stu]

Until Donald Trump was.

[Pat]

Until now.

[Stu]

And really until Donald Trump was like an online meme about this case. Like it's not even, I mean we all know the relationship went back from well before these things were known. So there was always, I mean he was in the files about this long, long ago.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

Mostly just to say, hey, look at what Jeffrey Epstein is saying or doing here. And I just, I think it's important that I think what you're saying a little bit there, Pat, is it would be nice if the President were a Little bit more precise with his language in that particular case. Yes, the Democratic hoax does exist. It is a hoax about his involvement in the Epstein case. The Epstein case itself is not a hoax. Trump knows that. Everybody knows. But the way he says it is.

[Pat]

Not the whole thing not worth talking about.

[Stu]

Right. The whole thing is not about. It is worth talking about. His involvement in the case is not worth talking about. It has been investigated. It's open and shut.

[Pat]

It doesn't exist.

[Stu]

It doesn't exist. There's just nothing there. That doesn't mean that the whole case is not to that level, though. And that is an important thing, as you point out, for victims who actually were affected.

[Pat]

More coming up in one minute. All right.

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[Pat]

One thing the victims did say yesterday I found useful and really something that I can't believe hasn't happened until now is Lisa Phillips, who's spoken extensively about the abuse at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein, said several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our own list of names. There doesn't seem to be an actual list of names that Epstein had on file. You know, we've been told that by the FBI now. We've been told that by Ghislaine Maxwell. Everybody says there is. There is no list. So she says, we know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidently compile the names. We all know we're regularly in the Epstein world and it'll be done by survivors for survivors. No one else is involved. That would be great. I fully support that. Hope that happens. I hope they come up with a. With a list of names. These people are looked into and, you know, maybe once and for all brought to justice. It would be. It would be great if we could finally put this to bed. And then you could, you know, then you could stop talking about the. The Epstein case. Because until there's justice served for all of these girls, these 14, 15, 16 year old girls, you know, there's just. There's no. There can be no end to it, really. Meanwhile, there's. There's a new bill that is being proposed by Thomas Massie, who. Who filed his discharge petition on Tuesday as soon as Congress came back into session. It should reach at least 218 signatures. Would force a vote on his bill to make public all Epstein related materials within with minimal redactions. They would just take out the names of the victims, leave everything else in there. So I. I don't know if that'll happen, but I guess we'll. We'll soon find out. Yeah.

[Stu]

You know, I. I am surprised that at some level this is still going on, you know, because it just seems amazing that we don't know all this information already.

[Pat]

But I guess it's been almost 30 years. In some cases.

[Stu]

A lot of the victims even want this stuff out there. I don't know what the reason is that. To hold it back. I mean, I know there are. I mean, it's more difficult than just saying, okay, put flood the Internet with all this stuff. I know there is a redaction process that is necessary, but it's time we just know this information.

[Pat]

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[Stu]

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[Pat]

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[Stu]

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[Pat]

Triple eight, 727. Beck, did you see our friend Malcolm Gladwell on that podcast? This is interesting.

[Stu]

I think it is. I want to get your. I'd love to get your take on this. I'm curious. The reaction to it has been interesting to me.

[Pat]

Yeah, I. I haven't seen a lot of the reaction. Are. Are people enjoying his change of heart here?

[Stu]

I would say from the right. I've seen more people angry about it.

[Pat]

Really?

[Stu]

Like, angry at him for what? He.

[Pat]

Because he was cowed into the support in the beginning?

[Stu]

Yes. Like, you know, like, essentially. No forgiveness. I'm angry about it.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Stu]

So I'd love to get your take on this.

[Pat]

Yeah, we should play it. He. He appeared on a podcast with a guy that he was on a panel with at MIT, I think, in 2022. And so they were on this panel together, and they were talking about men, trans women who are actually men in women's sports. And here's what he had to say about it. Malcolm chaired the session at the Sloan Conference.

[Stu]

That's a big event held every year at MIT in Boston. I think it was in 2022.

[Pat]

I lose track of time, but he was the chairperson and I was on a panel. Panel of three or four.

[Stu]

I forget exactly how Malcolm changed track of time, but he was the chairperson.

[Pat]

And I was on a panel of three or four. I forget exactly how many.

[Stu]

But.

[Ross]

Against you, Ross, they put a trans athlete and a trans advocate and you on the panel, and I was the moderator. And it was one of those strange situations where my Suspicion is that 90% of the people in the audience were on your side, but 5% of the audience was willing to admit it.

[Pat]

My recollection of it is that everything.

[Stu]

I said was met with deathly silence and everything the other two said got cheered.

[Ross]

Well, but the cheers were very. I mean, I think there was a hardcore of people who were ideologically committed to the position. But the idea that. I mean, there's many interesting things to.

[Glenn Beck]

Say about that conversation.

[Ross]

One was that it was a particular moment which has passed. If we did a replay of that exact panel at the Sloan conference this coming march, it runs in exactly the opposite direction. And it would be, I suspect, near unanimity in the room that trans athletes have no place in. In the female category. I don't think there's any question. I just think it was a strange. I mean, I felt. I mean, I was the reason. I'm ashamed of my performance of that panel because I share your position 100%. And I was count the idea of saying anything on this issue. I was, you know, I believe in retrospect, in a dishonest way, I was, was. I was objective in a dishonest way. I let a lot of really of howlers pass without comment because I didn't. And I said to you in an email, there was that moment, remember when. And I've forgotten her name. She's wonderful. Sorry, I've forgotten their name.

[Stu]

It's hard to say.

[Ross]

They were the trans athlete on the panel. And at one point they turned to you, Ross, and they said, ross, you have to let us win. And it was at that moment that I realized this position has gone. This argument has gone to the furthest extreme. What the trans movement is not asking for. They're not asking for, you know, a place at the table. They're not asking for to be treated with respect and dignity. What they're asking is for no one to question the considerable physical physiological advantage they bring to the sport, and no one to question if they're going to win these races by 5 seconds.

[Stu]

Suck it up. That's what they were asking. Yeah, right. Which is.

[Ross]

Which is, you know, in other words, if a really good cast of Semenya comes along who can run 147, what they're saying is you just have to like, so. So they win by 10 meters. So they win by 15.

[Stu]

Suck it up.

[Ross]

I mean, you would win by almost 100 meters, right?

[Pat]

Yeah. So that's what they're saying.

[Ross]

What they're saying is you should. You should have to live with that.

[Stu]

Yeah, I thought that was like, that's enough, thanks.

[Pat]

Yeah, I thought that was brave that he admitted it.

[Stu]

That's interesting.

[Pat]

I. I thought I would. I. I applaud him for actually admitting it and saying the right thing now, because a lot of people wouldn't. They wouldn't admit that they were wrong in the beginning.

[Stu]

I. I agree with you. I don't. I would not say the reaction that I saw, at least online, we would be in the majority. Like, I really. Yeah, it seems like they were just pissed that he. Yeah.

[Pat]

Like, was cowed into it in the.

[Stu]

First place, basically calling it pathetic. And here's the thing. So is he. He's also calling that pathetic.

[Pat]

Right? Yeah.

[Stu]

Malcolm Gladwell himself is calling Malcolm Gladwell.

[Pat]

He said it was. It was dishonest.

[Stu]

It was a dishonest moment. And it's not to say that everyone has moments like that in their lives. You try to have zero of them. I'm sure I've had one. I'm sure you've had one. I'm sure everyone in the audience has had one. What it highlights is that moment, which we've highlighted a million times, is completely insane. It was not something that we cowed to, but we could sit here and say how strong we are in every single situation and how we always take the right stand. I don't know what value that has. I guess it makes you feel good about yourself today, and I think that's why a lot of people are stepping on Malcolm on this. I'll say I like Malcolm Godwell. I like his content. I will say, if you like History, his book about the. The way we changed our bombing techniques In World War II, he has a book about that. I think it's an audiobook. Might be an audiobook only, but it's really interesting. I like his content and I like him. He's been on the show. It's been a while, but he's been on the show before. But my belief with people like this that I think are being. Being honest about a moment in their lives where they were wrong, is to say, hey, thanks for being on the right side now and admitting it.

[Pat]

I don't think Malcolm Gladwell is a hardcore conservative.

[Stu]

He's not. He's definitely not.

[Pat]

So for him to make this admission and say the right thing now, at least what I consider to be the right thing is laudable. I think it's praiseworthy, worthy.

[Stu]

An opposite example of this patience that I think we all agreed on was Kevin Hart. Remember Kevin Hart? He was gonna host the Oscars, and he. It was the Oscars, right? Yeah. And he was about to do this. And then the LGBTQIA two plus mafia stepped in and said, you made a joke in 1907 about gay people. You're bad. You can't host this. And then they kicked him off the Oscars. And at the time, we all, I think, correctly said, that's completely nuts. Like a completely insane position for you to have. It was in the peak woke era. It was wrong that Kevin Hart, who's not a conservative, was victimized by this. It was insane. We all took that position. But another important part of that position, at least in my mind, was to say that if you were an LGBTQ IA2 + activist and you trace what happened with Kevin Hart, which was what he said was a joke about gay people a million years ago, and then he said, yeah, I wish I didn't make that joke now. I wouldn't make that joke again. At the time, it's kind of what I thought was funny, but I actually don't think it's funny now. And he essentially adopted their position. He had been moved. I don't know if it was real, but he had been moved from a position that their side disliked to one that he liked, that they liked. His reward for that was to get destroyed.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

And I just don't see why that's beneficial to your movement. Selfishly, a person who. Of a lot of influence, Malcolm Gladwell, taking our position in a situation like this should be something we're happy about, not angry about.

[Pat]

And I. I am.

[Stu]

I am, too.

[Pat]

I like it. I mean, if you'll. If you'll notice, put up the. If you can, show Malcolm at his home, I guess is where he is during this podcast. You'll notice over his shoulder there, over his right shoulder, a poster of Mao.

[Stu]

Yeah. So he's not a.

[Pat]

He's not a conservative.

[Stu]

Not a conservative. I. I will say he's a guy who is fascinated with history and has talked about that type of stuff before. He's not getting caught having the picture of Mao behind him. He's talked about that type of thing. But again, he's not a conservative.

[Pat]

But he's not conservative.

[Stu]

No. I think he tries to be a person who looks at a situation honestly and tries to decipher what the right position is outside of politics, which is why he's embarrassed about what he did in 2022. He's embarrassed about that, mom, because he. Who's a guy who's taken a million difficult to defend positions on the left and the right over the years about history, about different effects in psychology and he gets beat up. He's very, very popular and very, very wealthy. So I think he dries his tears with $100 bills. I don't think he's that concerned about that. But he's a person who I think tries to make those determinations and is embarrassed that he allowed himself to be caug in a moment. And we should embrace the fact that someone's admitting it. I'm happy that he said this because the alternative, by the way is, and this is what's happening all over the media is they just don't say anything. They act as if they were either on the side the whole time or they just don't say anything about how they've changed their mind because they don't wanna get beat up by people or. I don't know. I don't feel like we jump on top of him because I'm sure he's getting hit by the left right now.

[Pat]

In some cases, they'll just stick to what they were saying in the beginning so that they don't look like they changed their mind at all. You don't have to deal with it and continue to defend men in women's sports. He didn't do that. So I say good for him. Good for him. Triple eight, 727 Beck. More coming up. This is Glenn. Becky.

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[Pat]

This is Patton Stu for Glenn this week speaking of trans men in women's sports. In disgraced Olympic boxer Imani Khalif has submitted an appeal to an arbitration court about being banned from women's boxing. Now, this is the person I want to hit. Women.

[Stu]

Yeah, I want to beat up on women.

[Pat]

And he really wants to do it badly. So he's trying to get back into the sport without taking the test because the World Boxing association now requires that you take a test to make sure you're female if you're in the female sport.

[Stu]

Meyer.

[Pat]

And he's already. He's already failed that test multiple times, right? Multiple times. This is the person, though, that won the gold medal in the Paris Olympics. They never stopped him from competing against the women in the Olympics for some reason. I. It was bizarre. But they kept swearing up and down, no, no, this is a woman. And of course he's not. He's not a woman. Uh, but did win gold in the women's competition. Is trying to get back in. But metal medical documents showed that the Algerian has XY chromosomes and that seemingly puts the whole thing to rest. Does have some kind of condition called, uh. It's described as 5 alpha reductase type 2 deficiency. So he reportedly has XY chromosomes, internal testes, and a micropenis.

[Stu]

That's a wonderful set of details there, Pat. Thank you for providing me.

[Pat]

You're welcome. You're welcome. Sounds an awful lot like Tim Walls, doesn't it? So that. That was just my thought. That. Wow. Is that. Are we describing Tim Wall?

[Stu]

It's a good thought. It's a good thought.

[Pat]

But I guess. No, they're. We're talking about this boxer still.

[Stu]

And like. Like Tim Walls. I'm not. It's not to say that someone in this situation. Let's just say the situation is as you described it. That I don't necessarily need to hear again.

[Pat]

But I wasn't necessarily going to say it again because that's an I. Strong word to say on the air, isn't it?

[Stu]

None of it makes me feel comfortable. But what I will say is that a person in that situation, if that is actually the situation he is in, does not deserve to be brutalized by our community. Does not deserve to lose rights because of it.

[Pat]

Right. Nobody's saying that.

[Stu]

Right. One line I think we can draw is you shouldn't beat the crap out of women.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

I don't know. I feel like that's the line. It's a pretty bright one that I have that.

[Pat]

So you're picky enough to say that men should not Beat up on women.

[Stu]

Yeah. Yeah. I. I think that's a really.

[Pat]

What. I think I'm with you on that. I'm pretty sure.

[Stu]

I feel like now this is. This might be a little too extreme, and it's okay, but if I'm too extreme for you on this, that's okay. I think in a hundred percent of cases, we should eliminate that. I just don't think that's good.

[Pat]

I think it's good. And especially. Especially in a sport like boxing.

[Stu]

For sport.

[Pat]

Wow. Yeah.

[Stu]

No.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

You know what?

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

And I'm sorry if there's some line that we don't understand that with whatever situation you got going on down there that makes it okay that you think you should beat up women and you believe we're wrong. So, sorry.

[Pat]

No, you're right.

[Stu]

You don't get to punch women in the face. It's the one thing we're gonna disallow. You can go work as an account and no one's going to have any problem with it. You can't go beat up women. Now, I am legitimately, at some point, extreme on the. The female boxing thing. And, like, I don't even like women beating up women. I. I would like to never see it again. Yeah, I know. If you're an MMA fan, MMA is.

[Pat]

Really hard to watch. I can't watch when it's women, I can't watch it. I can watch the men beat the crap out of each other. I can watch that.

[Stu]

As our own Hillary Kennedy will point out, she's a huge MMA fan and loves it.

[Pat]

And I'm sure she loves it with the women, too.

[Stu]

I can't watch it under any circumstances, so I'm extreme on that one. But let's just make a rule. How about dudes that they can't beat up on chicks? Can we come to that agreement?

[Pat]

You would think. You'd think. This is. Glenn, Becky.

[Stu]

What would you say, Hillary, if I said we should make it illegal for women to get punched in the face for sport?

[Pat]

She would say, no, that's my favorite fights to watch. The female fights are the best. Yes. I say we send the women in there to Chicago. We could sell tickets, but. Great.

[Stu]

I will say that would work. That would probably work. I think so. It would be effective.

[Pat]

I'd watch.

[Stu]

It's fascinating.

[Pat]

I'm okay with the bloodbath with men. I just. I don't do it with. I don't like it with the women missing out.

[Stu]

This is the most fascinating thing about you.

[Pat]

It is.

[Stu]

It is.

[Pat]

It really is.

[Stu]

You. If you don't know Hillary, she's literally the nicest person I've ever met in my entire life. And yet she's like, yeah, I want to watch. Of course I want to watch women get punched in the face over and over again. Everybody's gotta have a vice.

[Pat]

That's true. Bloodier, the better.

[Glenn Beck]

That's true.

[Stu]

You know, and I will say around here, a lot of people's vice just being Cowboys fans, you know, women being punched in the face for sport, obviously better than that. So we can all agree on that particular thing. Thank you so much, Hilary. 888,727. Beck is the number. Back with more in a second.

[Pat]

Sam.

[Stu]

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[Pat]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Pat and stew for Glenn triple eight seven two seven. Beck. Here's our phone number. J.D. vance talked about the Venezuela boat strike and so did Marco Rubio. We'll share what they had to say about it. If you didn't see it, it's. It's pretty interesting. There's a boat full of people, 11.

[Stu]

Of them, for a while, then there's.

[Pat]

Not, and then there's not. There's not, and then there's not. And so we'll get into. Into that and much more coming up.

[Stu]

You know, some people are having a bit of a moral conundrum on that particular news story. I will say I'm having a bit of a moral conundrum myself when it comes to tonight's football game. The. The NFL is back. Football is back.

[Pat]

It's tonight. Gosh. That's right.

[Stu]

Tonight, we're America's team, the Philadelphia Eagles, defending world champs, take on the embarrassment Dallas Cowboys. And here's the conundrum I'm having. I'm on. I'm on prize picks right now, and I love prize picks. I play it all the time. And they occasionally will give you what they call a free square. And this one for this game tonight is Dak Prescott over more than, if you will, 0.5 yards. Now, I do believe Dak Prescott will have more than a half a yard passing tonight.

[Pat]

I do believe that unfortunately, it's seriously aligned.

[Stu]

Seriously?

[Pat]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Of course you're gonna go over that.

[Stu]

So you're gonna go over that. But that means I have to, in theory, hope for something good to happen with the Dallas Cowboys.

[Pat]

What is more important to you? Making money or Cheering on the Eagles.

[Stu]

I, I, well, I'm gonna cheer on the Eagles either way, but I'd like to do both. Maybe I'll do both with that particular. This is the thing with prospects. You just do more or less on a given statistic. Sometimes the Eagles these cool like discounts and bonus payouts and everything else. You do this on a few players and you can win big money, you know, hundreds, thousands of times your money. It's a lot of fun to do as well. Even when like the worst game of the weekend is on and you're not at all really interested in it. This is, I mean daily fantasy sports is a great way to up the excitement. With prize picks right now you can download the app and use the code Stu. Get fifty dollars in lineups after you play your first five dollar lineup. The code is stew to get fifty bucks instantly when you play only a five dollar lineup. It's a great way to get involved in prize picks. It's good to be right.

[Pat]

You know, you mentioned the conundrum that we face with this missile strike on a boat in the middle of the water. I guess the middle of the ocean doesn't really say where they are, but I assume it's, you know, they were supposedly on the way to America. It was trend day. Aragua, they said say 11 guys in a boat filled with cocaine. Okay. I guess they probably had really solid intelligence and so they just wiped him out with a missile strike.

[Stu]

All of what you just said is very true. And that's what makes the story, I think interesting in that a lot of the stuff, like if you, if I was 100% convinced.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

Which I don't have any reason to doubt their intelligence, but I have made statements like that before. Before, let's say Iraq.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

You know, that's the problem. That's the thing.

[Pat]

We've made mistakes before.

[Stu]

We have made mistakes.

[Pat]

Remember the Afghanistan thing where they killed the family of 10.

[Stu]

Oh, gosh.

[Pat]

In a mistaken attack?

[Stu]

I do remember that. And you know, war is war and sometimes these things do and they do happen.

[Pat]

Yeah, we've. You don't want them to, but they're going to.

[Stu]

Yes. That's why you try to avoid war, by the way.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

And you try.

[Pat]

One of the many reasons.

[Stu]

One of the many reasons. But what you said is true in.

[Pat]

That.

[Stu]

They were, we think, headed towards the United States. I think in the ocean, somewhere off the coast. We think, we think they were trend Aragua.

[Pat]

And we have designated these cartels and these groups as terrorists now.

[Stu]

So maybe we have to start there. Are you comfortable with that? Are you comfortable with saying trend Aragua is a terrorist group?

[Pat]

I kind of think I am.

[Stu]

I think I am.

[Pat]

Yeah. I'm okay with that.

[Stu]

There's enough evidence to show that they are. Are attempting to do massive damage inside the United States. They are responsible for a lot of.

[Pat]

Emergency and they've already died a lot of that.

[Stu]

They've done a lot of damage. I'm comfortable with that assessment. I don't know that everybody is. I'm comfortable with that assessment.

[Pat]

Me, too.

[Stu]

I think the issue that maybe gives some people some hesitation and maybe is part of the effect that I'm seeing and hearing and feeling a little bit, which is I haven't really seen the case on these particular incidents. We haven't had a lot of information. Information as to what was happening. Yeah, we haven't had a lot of information at who these people individually were. We don't have a lot of information as to how they came to these assessments. My.

[Pat]

In fact, we've got virtually no information.

[Stu]

Right.

[Pat]

Like any of that.

[Stu]

Kind of weird.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Now, my guesstimate would be they're probably very much justified.

[Pat]

I would think so, too. Yeah.

[Stu]

Now I.

[Pat]

It just looks. It. It's disturbing because, you know, 11 people just died. Died in a flash. And yeah. You really hope that they knew for sure that these were bad people doing bad things.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

And now they were stopped and now they're not going to get to do those bad things.

[Stu]

And I like to be more sure of these things before, you know, before, you know, boats explode. But again, we're not in the intelligence business. We don't see all this stuff. I'm. Because I, generally speaking, have faith in someone like Marco Rubio, for example, to assess that situation accurately. I'm more likely than not to believe that, hey, this is probably very justified. I do think of the other way because I remember this happening during the Obama administration when he would drone people outside of our borders that he said.

[Pat]

Were terrorists, in some cases American citizens.

[Stu]

Yeah. And that, I think, is a different line. No one is, as far as I understand, saying that these trend Nicaragua members were U.S. citizens. And that would be a different line for me.

[Pat]

Yeah, me too.

[Stu]

But at the time, I do remember a lot of people calling and saying, hey, Obama's just droning people all over the world without justification. And the reason for that, I think, mostly is we don't have that faith in Barack Obama to make those assessments. We are convinced, I think, accurately, that his interests are not always aligned with the best interests of the United States. And because most people I think in the audience would agree the Trump administration does have those interests aligned with the best interests of the United States in certainly most cases. Marco Rubio as well, Pete Hegseth, whoever you want to name, J.D.

[Pat]

Vance, whoever else.

[Stu]

Yeah, we feel confident. So I feel more comfortable with something like this. But the case wasn't certainly built over a long period of time on this.

[Pat]

It wasn't like it's not with us. We haven't been shown that.

[Stu]

We have been shown it. Right.

[Pat]

So that makes it harder.

[Stu]

So it makes it a little harder to assess. All that being said, what Trump is trying to do here, Pat, I think is send a very large marquee billboard style message to these organizations, these cartels. This can happen to you, too. It is absolutely not something they hid. This is something they put in the.

[Pat]

Trailer for their movie, which is why they're showing it to us. They want us because they want this message to, to resonate in Venezuela.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

And northern Mexico with all the drug cartels they want. Look, here's what we're going to do to you. So how about you stop transporting drugs to our tour shores? Yeah, I think a good idea.

[Stu]

This video was shown 10% because Donald Trump believes he wants you. He wants you to know that he's taking this stuff seriously and he believes that it's the right position and he believes there's a political benefit to show that he's serious. This stuff and the promises he made during the campaign to take it seriously are happening. That's 10% of it. 90% of the reason you saw that video yesterday was Donald Trump saying to trend Nairagua. Think about this the next. Think about this scenario for a second, Pat. You're a drug dealer. I mean, it would be more helpful if Jeffy was here today. But we'll just say you're a drug dealer, okay. You're a person who's a mule. You're taking drugs across the border. You've done this a hundred times. Maybe five people in your family have done it previously and been arrested and they went to prison and then they got released and, and got out and are now back, whatever.

[Pat]

Really?

[Stu]

Well, yeah, I'm describing a very real situation with you. And your, your guy comes to you and says, hey, guess what, bud, your turn. It's boat time. You're going to take a, you're going to take some drugs into the United States via boat. Are you ready? After seeing that video, are you doing that?

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

I think you're more likely to go, sure. And then take a boat to the next port and get off and run away from forever.

[Pat]

No question it's going to like. It's a deterrent.

[Stu]

It's a deterrent, yeah. The fact is that a drone can be over your head and blow you up at any time is going to at least dissuade some drug dealers from attempting it.

[Pat]

It can't help but right. It's human nature, self preservation. You don't want this to happen to you. So yeah, it's a, it's pretty effective to make this known to the entire world. Here's what's going to happen to you when you're transporting drugs to these US. So the other side of this though is that the mainstream media now sees a way where they can attack the administration for not doing what they said that was going on with the Maryland man. Okay. He didn't have day in court. You didn't arrest him and put him in court and put him on trial. So in the middle of J.D. vance talking about the victims because he went to Minnesota to, to meet with the families of the victims from the shooting at the church last week and he's outside talking about it right after that occurred and they take the occasion to hammer him on Venezuela. What about this Venezuela punt strike? What you have. Here's, here's how Vance addresses it on the Venezuela vessel, you know, vessel strike what, what legal authority were you guys working under and will there be an after report on the strike?

[Stu]

Well, I'm sure there going to be an after report. I mean the legal authority and I want to talk about these kids is that there are people who are bringing literal terrorists who are bringing deadly drugs into our country. And the President United States ran on a promise of stopping this poison from.

[Pat]

Coming into our country. Another question, another question. So a brief but fairly powerful.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Then there was Marco Rubio.

[Stu]

Rubio really hates these cartels and Venezuelan communism and Cuban like this is really the central part of Marco Rubio's belief system. This is where he does not have a moment of hesitation with this stuff.

[Pat]

And here's what he says.

[Stu]

Brokers, these are not real estate agents who on the side deal a few drugs. These are organized corporate structured organizations who specialize in the trafficking of deadly drugs and into the United States of America. They pose an immediate threat to the United States, period. If you're on a boat full of cocaine or fentanyl or whatever headed to the United States, you're an immediate threat to the United States. And the president, under his authority as Commander in Chief, has a right under exigent circumstances to eliminate imminent threats to the United States. And that's what he did yesterday in international waters, and that's what he intends to do. We're not going to sit back anymore and watch these people sail up and down the coast, Caribbean, like a cruise ship. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen anymore. They're not going to bring drugs into the United States. We're going to stop them. I know a lot of presidents have talked about doing it. This president is not a talker, he's a doer.

[Pat]

That's true.

[Stu]

The central message of almost everything with the Trump administration. Sure is. You know, it's funny, this particular issue is a really good example of, you know, the sort of meme that goes around online. This is what I voted for. People Trump voters saying that, yes, this is exactly the type of stuff that Donald Trump appeals to his base most on, which is, here's a problem. It's been intractable for a really long time. People have all said they're going to do something about it. Nobody ever seems to do it, but.

[Pat]

We actually are going to.

[Stu]

And Donald Trump just doesn't care. He doesn't care if it seems extreme for a boat to blow up on a video.

[Pat]

It's a huge part of his appeal. He doesn't care what you think.

[Stu]

Actually, he's promoting it. Right. Like, that is the central difference between I think, Donald Trump and a zillion other politicians, because, look, there's lots of Republican politicians that have policies that are tough on drug dealers, and they'll describe them. Almost none of them would do something like this.

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

Including Marco Rubio when he ran for president. As much as the passion you hear from Rubio there, and I, I believe it's incredibly sincere. I think it's the most sincere thing about Marco Rubio. He really feels passionately about this type of issue. He wouldn't have done that. He would not have said that in his 2016 campaign.

[Pat]

No. And that's why Rubio has been so much better than I thought he was going to be. Yeah.

[Stu]

He's been.

[Pat]

Hasn't he been a pleasant surprise in this capacity, in his role as Secretary of State? I think he's been great.

[Stu]

I've never been a Rubio hater.

[Pat]

No, I haven't either.

[Stu]

He's not.

[Pat]

But I wasn't a massive fan of Rubio either.

[Stu]

Right. One of the situations that he was criticized on back in the day was the border. He was looking for a sort of light touch border approach, at least according. Not light touch like the Biden administration, but light touch, maybe to the right where you're treating people who have been.

[Pat]

Here illegally and you're talking about maybe a path to citizenship, the gang of.

[Stu]

Eight or nine or 12 or whatever it is. He was on that side of things. Now, look, circumstances change. Maybe he's changed his opinion on that, that. But I think too, Trump allows and encourages a certain boldness that people really like, especially when it comes to stuff like this. When you're talking about terrorists, when you're talking about drug dealers, people who are murdering US Citizens, a lot of people in America don't have much time for it. They don't really want to see a light touch approach. They want to see this, this. And look, I think in this case we don't have all the details, so it's hard to 100% say this, but I think in this case he's on the right side of the law. This is a terrorist organization. He's allowed to do this. And I think it's something that you feel, assuming all the details that we don't know are true, you feel completely fine with watching a bunch of people who are trying to literally murder Americans blowing up in a boat. I don't love the idea of war. I don't love the idea of attacking. But like when you're preventing deaths of your own citizens, this is 100% justified by a president. Assuming all this information is correct.

[Pat]

And how long has the supposed war on drugs existed? We've fought that war since the 80s, 70s. Right. Hasn't worked. But this approach, I think will, this approach is going to work.

[Stu]

Now again, Trump also said, you know, he has sometimes been friendly to. What's the guy in the Philippines?

[Pat]

Oh, yeah, I can't think of his.

[Stu]

Name off the top. Duarte, you know, and his approach, which is there are many elements of that approach which are extra constitutional in this country, would not be possible. Trump is trying to find every way he, he can to be very, very tough on these people within the bounds of our rules and constitutions. And that is, I think, what people want. They want, they don't want you to be nice anymore on this stuff. They want you to go as far as you can within the bound. It's the same thing with a crime in all these cities. Within the bounds of the constitution, you have to be able to find those lines. Those lines are important. And. But if you can go up to those lines and Say we're hiking as much ground as we can on this because this is a serious problem. I think the American people, generally speaking, will cheer him on when it comes to that stuff. If he starts crossing those lines, he could lose people in a big way.

[Pat]

88727 back more coming up. One minute.

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[Pat]

Patton Stu for Glenn today and all this week. 888-727 Beck We we just played JD Vance and Marco Rubio on the Venezuelan boat strike. Here's Judge Jeanine Pirro talking about intercepting the ingredients for meth and how much of it they confiscated.

[Stu]

Hi everyone. I'm Judge Shanine and I am in Houston, Texas and I am surrounded by 1300 barrels of precursors make methamphetamines.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

These precursors were seized as a result of work by my office in Washington D.C. along with Homeland Security and Customs and border patrol. These 1300 barrels were shipped from Shanghai, China to Mexico. We intercepted these precursors on the high seas. And now the Sinhale Lower cartel will not be able to use them to make methamphetamines. And the bottom line is this. Whenever there is an effort on the part of foreign terrorist organizations to create drugs that are killing Americans, we will seize them, whether it's on the high seas or whether it's in the country or a foreign country. And by the way, it's going to take 24, 18 wheelers, 24, 18 wheeler to take all of these containers and put them in a secure storage facility.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

And that's what we're doing in dc, but we're doing it in Houston today. And you never know where we're going to be tomorrow.

[Pat]

Again, note to terrorists, note to drug cartels. We're doing things a little differently now. So you're not going to find a friendly reception to the drug trade that you're dealing in right now. That's not going to be good for you. So I would think that what. Based on what they've seen this week, it would put some doubt in your mind, right, about whether or not you want to continue this, about whether or not you want to transport drugs over the U.S. border.

[Stu]

You're the drug dealer in the scenario. Don't you remember? That's how we set this up. Don't. Don't make me make the decision.

[Pat]

You're the one I'm going to say no. I'm going to say I'm not transporting any drugs over the US border anymore. That would be enough for me.

[Stu]

That should be the messaging and the feel, right?

[Pat]

Not you're welcome here.

[Stu]

Not come to cross our border like we got from the Biden administration. Not specifically to drug dealers, but that's a different message, right?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

A big part of the success on the border is just the messaging. Yes, we've taken steps beyond that, but that's a big part of it.

[Pat]

But we haven't built the wall yet. And look at the decrease in illegal cross country things now.

[Stu]

It's massive.

[Pat]

Unbelievable.

[Stu]

It's been the most inarguable success of the Trump administration. Even if you don't like his policies, it's impossible to argue that that's not worked really, really well.

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[Stu]

Get it from Glenn free@glenn beck.com Calm.

[Pat]

Got great stupid gear for Glenn this week. Triple 8727 Beck Stu, I'm a little torn on this mayoral race in New York City. So I'm guessing you are about split in half over it because President Trump did something very interesting this week. He had his people get together with New York City Mayor Eric Adams, who's in the race against Zoran Mum, Donnie and, and the speculation is, I think it's stronger than speculation. I think it's pretty well out there that they're that Trump is going to offer him a position within the administration to get him out of the mayoral race, which to me is brilliant. It's amazing how many irons in the fire President Trump has. And this is another one where he's trying to fix something that could be catastrophic to this country. Country.

[Stu]

He is incredibly busy, isn't it?

[Pat]

Does he have a moment to sleep?

[Stu]

It's legitimately incredible.

[Pat]

It's amazing.

[Stu]

So many big things he's doing all at the same time. And again, we've talked about this over a bunch of different topics. This is not a, there's a lot of Trump cheerleader shows out there. There's a lot of shows that just tell you Trump is Hitler. I really look at each one of these things individually. Some of them I really, really like. There's a few that I'm not crazy about. We've discussed them over and over again and we've discussed all of his successes over and over again. Totally separate from what your percentage is on success and failure. Just the sheer amount of what is happening on a day to day basis, mind boggling. There has never been a government that I can remember that is doing more than this current one when it comes to Donald Trump. Now legislatively is another issue. Obviously there's not a ton of stuff that's gone through Congress here and there's reasons Congress's fault. Yeah, I mean if you like the Stuff, it's all Congress's fault, with the exception of our rules, with the filibuster, which I do not want to see go away. So there are some limitations, of course, when it comes to having control of government if you can't clear that filibuster number. But just stepping back, there is a shock and awe element as to what is happening on a day to day basis with this administration. Yeah, there's always a major thing going on and I think that's by design for Donald Trump. I think he's saying, look, pedal to the metal. Every, every Monday there's a press conference about something big going on. And it is, it's a hell of a thing to watch.

[Pat]

He's pretty much left no stone unturned. And this is a big one because, I mean this is our financial capital of the country of the world, essentially New York York City. You don't want a communist running it.

[Stu]

No, that would be bad.

[Pat]

Just don't. It would be catastrophic. So he's trying to get some of the people that are splitting the vote out of the race so it can be a head to head between the guy who has the best chance to defeat Zaran Mamdani and that unfortunately is Andrew Cuomo. So he's trying to stop it. He's trying to get Eric Adams out of the race. Already got the other guy who had 1%. He already dropped out.

[Stu]

He did drop out.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Okay.

[Pat]

He dropped out.

[Stu]

He's gone.

[Pat]

And so if you get Adams out and I think he's also considering offering Sliwa something. Curtis Lewa might be enticed to join if they can find a job for him in the administration. They're offer him that to get him out of the race. And then it's just Andrew Cuomo versus Iran. Mom. Donnie, which I know you're conflicted over, but very. I am a cheerleader for, for Andrew Cuomo if it's between the two of them.

[Stu]

So you would prefer the guy who murders old people?

[Pat]

Ropes around. Yes, Yes.

[Stu]

I would have to understand. I. Here's my position on the race. Number one, you should just freaking vote for Curtis Lewa.

[Pat]

Yes. For some reason they won't.

[Stu]

Well, yeah, but let's stop and think about this for just a moment, shall we?

[Pat]

Okay.

[Stu]

This is not, yes, it's a liberal city, but it is a liberal city that has routinely, somewhat routinely actually elected Republicans to be the mayor. And what the result of that process has been is the best era of New York City.

[Pat]

I mean, Giuliani saved the city and completely turned it around. We know that.

[Stu]

And Bloomberg was elected as a Republican. Now, Bloomberg, I had all sorts of problems with and did not think he was.

[Pat]

He turned out to be terrible, but he was a Republican when elected.

[Stu]

In context text. Did he turn out to be terrible? I don't think he turned out to be terrible. As opposed to David Dinkins. I don't think he turned out to be terrible as opposed to Bill de Blasio.

[Pat]

No. De Blasio was much worse.

[Stu]

Much worse. And so I think you would just think that the people of New York would recognize this, that they, unlike most.

[Pat]

Please.

[Stu]

I know.

[Pat]

Please. If you live in New York, please consider what you doing here.

[Stu]

Unlike most American cities that have dealt with real problems, poverty, crime and all these things, the people of New York have actually experimented with what it would be like to have a city run by a Republican. And what they have found is that it's been really successful. It's worked really well. The best periods of New York over the past century have been ones where a Republican, Republican was the mayor of the city.

[Pat]

Look what they did to just Times Square. Just that alone.

[Stu]

Incredible.

[Pat]

Just turning that part of the city around and going from some sleazebag area of a town to a really nice touristy kind of place with all kinds of shops and, and places to eat food and it's. It's safer, you know, than it was in the 80s and 90s. And that was all Rudy Giuliani. I mean, he brought in Disney to help revitalize it. It all worked. I mean, how do you argue with that?

[Stu]

It was incredible. It was an incredible change now. And the problems that we had with a Bloomberg, which were. There were many, though, in comparison to what you're talking about with a Mamdani or a Cuomo. They're not even remotely close. Like, do I like the fact that he was trying to get rid of large sodas?

[Pat]

No, no. Salt.

[Stu]

Salt. I mean, those things. A lot of nanny state nonsense. Closing down roads in the city, you know, for bike paths and all sorts of nonsense. And much larger than that, much more importantly, absolutely unconstitutional gun restrictions, which is a major thing. But of course, you'd get that from Cuomo and get that from Mamdani, too. The person you should vote for if you're in New York is Curtis Sliwa.

[Pat]

Yes. What is it?

[Stu]

I don't understand how he's not even being considered. The only thing the man has done in his life is say crime is bad.

[Pat]

He's fought against it, actually put his actions where his mouth was and actually patrolled the streets with, you know, his guardian angels. And it, it really helped. It really helped. He. He made a positive impact on New York City. And I don't know if there's any doubt about that.

[Stu]

I don't know what the reason why he's. I mean, I guess the reason why he's not being considered is maybe because of the history he's been around that.

[Pat]

That'S ruined his chances. I've been encouraging him to get the break, throw the beret away.

[Stu]

Does he still wear the beret?

[Pat]

He does, but he's taken it off recently. I think it. My suggestion. Really? Yeah. Because I've. I've been a very big critic of the beret. But when he takes it off, you see the permanent indentation of his forehead of where the beret was. Really? And so I think he put it back on because it was just too. It. It was too mind boggling that you've worn the beret so long and it's so tight apparently on your head that you've got a permanent indentation from it. Wow. I did not. That's why people won't vote.

[Stu]

See, this is why I gotta listen to Pat Cray unleashed on Blaze tv.

[Pat]

You don't even know analysis from anybody else. Has any other show ever given you the real story on Curtis Lewa and.

[Stu]

The indent in his forehead?

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

No.

[Pat]

You don't hear that look.

[Stu]

That's who you should vote for in this election. Courtesy.

[Pat]

But they're not going to.

[Stu]

They probably will not. He does. He is not going.

[Pat]

And did you see the recent poll on Head to Head? They did a poll of Cuomo versus Mamdani. I did see that. Supposedly 5342 Cuomo, which is pretty amazing. And that's obviously what the Trump administration is reacting to. So they're trying to get everybody else out.

[Stu]

Can you excuse me a moment, Pat? And forgive the fact that I can't really get excited over that development. Andrew Cuomo is among the worst people our society has ever produced.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

Now, mom, Donnie might be worse than him on the scale in that our society didn't even produce him. He came from another society that produces even worse people. But forgive me for not being excited about one of the worst human beings on the planet getting rewarded yet again.

[Pat]

Again. Yeah. For.

[Stu]

Causing the deaths of a bunch of old people and groping everybody around him. Forgive me for not being excited about that particular outlet. Though I will say his policies in the city, which will be terrible, will be slightly Better than Mom Donnie's. So. Hey, aim high, America.

[Pat]

I know, I know it's a tough.

[Stu]

To be excited about it. I want bad things to happen to both of them. Not, you know, politically, not in any other way. I want, like, I want their 401ks to go down. I want. I want. I want. When they go to McDonald's. McDonald's and they order an extra value meal, I want the wrong one to be in each bag. I want their orders to be screwed up. I want them to get caught in traffic on a regular basis. They both suck beyond imagination.

[Pat]

Yes. Yes.

[Stu]

So I can't. I really. I can't be excited about it.

[Pat]

Are you extreme enough to wish combination skin on combination skin?

[Stu]

What do you mean?

[Pat]

Both part oily, part dry. Really hard to deal with.

[Stu]

Wow.

[Pat]

So would you wish that? How would one Andrew Cuomo.

[Stu]

How would one deal with such a thing? No product consolidated.

[Pat]

Was it Dove? I can't. I can't remember the product that cures that, but I think it was Dove.

[Stu]

Find out moisturizing that right now. You know, I think at the end of the. At the end of the day, I understand why people are excited about this. It's funny because. Because if there has been a person who has been worse to Donald Trump than Andrew Cuomo, you're probably climbing the ladder to a Letitia James. I mean, there's not many people who have been worse to Donald Trump than Andrew Cuomo. The fact this is something that I think gets left behind on Trump, the fact that he would even entertain trying to help Andrew Cuomo in an election show shows you that while yes, he does have his grudges and he has his biases against people, maybe we'll get into the Rosie o' Donnell tweet a little bit later on in the program today with one of the funniest pictures I've ever seen in my entire life. While all that is true, when he feels like a better outcome for the country, the area, the city, is achievable. Even when he hates the person, he'll embrace it.

[Pat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stu]

And I think that's the case here. I think he believes Cuomo, while terrible, will be better than Mamdani.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

So he will entertain these types of ideas, which, you know, again, you're rewarding someone who is awful. I mean, why not just. Why not just. We should have, before he killed himself, we should have just put Jeffrey Epstein as mayor of New York. Can we come up with worse people? How is it possible our choice could be a socialist, anti Semitic, semite that pretty much wants every Jew dead. Yeah, I don't. I don't think that's an official policy yet. But if he comes up with enough power, it will become one. And the opposition is a guy who. Who put people with infectious disease in rooms with elderly people and watched thousands of them die.

[Pat]

Literally didn't.

[Stu]

Denied all responsibility, use government resources to write his stupid book. Who. Who is corrupt, in my view, in every corner of his administration, who has used power to. To boss around and destroy people's lives. Who allegedly groped all females that came within 100 yards of him. And we're like, that guy's better. How can that. How can this country be at a position where it has to make choices like that? It is despicable, by the way. It doesn't. Curtis Lee was there. He's available, he's on the ballot. And all he wants to do is stop you for getting a knife in your chest on your way to work. That's his big crime. What a disgrace. What. What a freaking city that is. I was born in New York State. You know, I'm a. Technically. I guess that makes me at some level a New Yorker. Though I definitely consider myself a Texan at this point. But good heavens, what has happened to this freaking place?

[Pat]

I will also throw into that mix on this country being a little screwed up at times. AI just told me there is no one single brand that fought against combination skin.

[Stu]

That's. That can't be true.

[Pat]

That is not true. That is another example of AI being inaccurate or lying. More coming up.

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[Pat]

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[Stu]

Pat. Breaking news. The first skincare company to address combination skin. Clinique.

[Pat]

Clinique, yes. Okay.

[Stu]

Clinique. They were the first to really say, hey, your T zone can be oily while other parts of your skin are dry.

[Pat]

And what do you do about that?

[Stu]

You can't do anything. Wait a minute, there's Clinique.

[Pat]

Okay, well, good. When did that start?

[Stu]

1968.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

1968. So it's been around for a lot. It's been around for. Maybe that wasn't the central part of their advertising in 1968.

[Pat]

But. But they used it.

[Stu]

They apparently did use it at that time, at least according to the Internet.

[Pat]

So. But the point of this was where. What will it take to get Zoran Mamdani to just go home and not be mayor of New York City? Because I. That is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

[Stu]

It is so really damaging to the country.

[Pat]

You know, they're going to him with some kind of job in the Trump administration.

[Stu]

Right. The argument. Argument for Cuomo is, look, New York's already corrupt.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

I mean, look, the guy who Trump is talking about embracing and bringing into the. Into the administration is a guy who had, you know, employees allegedly handing out bags of chips with cash inside of them to reporters.

[Pat]

And that was fairly recent.

[Stu]

It was just like two weeks ago.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

It's already a corrupt disaster. What could Andrew Cuomo possibly do?

[Pat]

This is Glenn Beck.

[Stu]

There are certain things that will never go to bed.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

And that's.

[Pat]

And that's one of them. That is definitely one of them.

[Stu]

Never will happen. But, you know, the. It doesn't mean we shouldn't look at more information on it.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

You know.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

I mean, I feel the same way with the Kennedy thing. Like, it's like they released all the Kennedy, not the Hillary Kennedy, but the President Kennedy and the assassination stuff, which.

[Pat]

I thought was going to yield something to sink your teeth into. But you really didn't. It really didn't. It was the same old thing.

[Stu]

We pretty much knew all the stuff that was in there.

[Pat]

Disappointing.

[Stu]

It was never really an obsessive on the Kennedy stuff. It was just, you know, I didn't.

[Pat]

I've always found it interesting, and that's probably of all the theories out there, that's probably one where you might be onto something. You know, it was maybe more than Oswald.

[Stu]

Yeah, I think that's a different line to me than some of the other theories that are out there. Like there could have been more to it. I think is. Is significant. But like, I don't know. There were 19 shooters on the grassy knoll.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

Less convinced. Yeah, but still I. It's a. The point of that is never going to be. People are never going to be done.

[Pat]

With you won't be satisfied.

[Stu]

It's going to go on forever and whatever. That's okay. Let everyone have their theories. Feel the dark on every side. Stand your ground when times get dark. Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire.

[Pat]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. As hard as it may be to believe, there are like major politicians in this country who still don't understand where our rights come from. It's incredible. But we'll share one of those people who doesn't know from where our rights come in. Just a second. Plus, we are making America healthy again. We'll talk about all the tremendous changes that have helped that to occur. Get into that and much more. Coming up in one minute.

[Stu]

I keep walking around like grocery store stores and malls and they don't look that much more healthy. They all look like me still, which is.

[Pat]

I thought it was fixed.

[Stu]

Oh, okay. No, okay.

[Pat]

Okay. Well, maybe we're good. We got rid of red number 40 or whatever, didn't we?

[Stu]

So that should be.

[Pat]

Aren't you done?

[Stu]

It should be all set. I suppose the bank doesn't care about your goals. It doesn't care that you're trying to get out of debt. It doesn't care that you're saving for your kids college. Doesn't care if you're healthy again, it doesn't care about any of that. To them you're just a number. And that's why we always talk about American financing. They do things differently. They work for you, not the bank. Their mortgage consultants aren't commission based so there's no pressure, no upselling. Just real conversations about how to help you save. If you're a homeowner and you haven't looked into financing lately, you could be missing out on hundreds, sometimes thousands of dollars a month in savings. They can help you pay off high interest debt. They can help you shorten your loan term. They can help you lower your monthly payments so you can breathe a little bit easier. And if you're buying a home, they've got access to every loan program available. They're going to know exactly what kind you need, and they'll walk you through the entire thing. It's still your mortgage, it's still your home. But with American Financing, you've got an advocate in your corner, someone who actually listens to you. So give them a call. It's American financing. It's 8009-062448-00906-2440 or american financing.net americanfinancing.net NMLS 182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for rates in the five starts at 6.799 for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms.

[Pat]

Patent's due for Glenn this week. Wow. Tim Kaine, U.S. senator from Virginia. Formerly a governor there, a lieutenant governor. He's been around a long time and he still seems not to know where American rights come from. Huh. Check this out.

[Stu]

The notion that rights don't come from laws and don't come from the government, but come from the Creator, that's what.

[Pat]

The Iranian government believes.

[Stu]

It's a theocratic regime that bases its rule on Shia law and to target Sunnis, Baha', Is, Jews, Christians and other religious minorities. And they do it because they believe that they understand what natural rights are from their Creator. So the statement that our rights do not come from our laws or our governments is extremely troubling. That is.

[Pat]

Is it extremely troubling, Pat?

[Stu]

It's one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen come out of a government official in.

[Pat]

Incredible. Really incredible that you're that unaware of what this country was founded on, that our founders absolutely believed that our rights come from God. Because if they come from man, man can take them away. If they come from God, man can't take them away.

[Stu]

It is the most important foundational aspect of the founding of the United States of America.

[Pat]

Gosh, that's incredible.

[Stu]

It is literally the most important ingredient. Ingredient in our nation. It's. It's the number one. Number one. It was. It's why it's in the Declaration of Independence.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Very clearly spelled out in the Declaration of Independence. But it's also in. Is littered throughout our founding documents.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

And the concept is.

[Pat]

And the writings of our founders. Yes. I mean, it's an. Read the Federalist Papers. I mean, it's. Are you that unaware? How is that possible? That's 67 years old and a U.S. senator.

[Stu]

U.S. senator.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

You know we were talking about this on a. I think it was you. And I talked to Jeffrey about it a little bit as well when he was on with me on Tuesday. But the fact that we keep seeing news reports where people will say, oh.

[Pat]

I mean, you just, we should just.

[Stu]

Get rid of these automatic weapons. Weapons, it's stunning to me that they still make that type of mistake. It's such a basic misunderstanding of firearms, like between automatic and semiautomatic. And over and over and over again, people who are brought on as experts to speak on, let's say a mass shooting will say and make basic mistakes about how firearms even operate, what the laws are around them. People who are calling for new laws don't know what the current ones are.

[Pat]

Are.

[Stu]

I'm always fascinated by that. This is a totally different level. This man, I assume, swore an oath to the country. I assume he was involved in that process.

[Pat]

You would think so.

[Stu]

This is someone who has been in government, who almost was the Vice President of the United States. And you might say to yourself, what are you talking about, Stu? Let me inform you, he was Hillary Clinton's Pick, right, in 2016. Now we all forget about that because he's a giant zilch in every single way. But, you know, this is not a guy that has zero prominence in the United States.

[Pat]

No. And you know, he's a fairly educated guy. Okay. If you grew up in a cave somewhere and you weren't educated, you've never heard any of this. Okay. He graduated from the University of Missouri and then he got a law degree from Harvard. You should have somewhere along the way stumbled into it at least.

[Stu]

Least something.

[Pat]

Yeah. And when you put your right hand up to the square and you swear allegiance to the Constitution, you don't know what it's based on. You don't know where our laws come from. Wow, that is incredible. Staggering.

[Stu]

In case you didn't know, the Declaration of Independence says this. We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are indebted, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Among these, by the way, not all of them. Among these. And I don't even know how to react to it. It's like, does he actually really not know? Is this, it seems to me to be a statement of ignorance, that he is unaware that that is how our country is set up. Now, if you were to say, Pat, if instead the audio we just played for you, if instead the statement was this, Our founding fathers who had many great ideas told us that your rights come from God. And while that is what they believed, I disagree with it for these reasons.

[Pat]

That would have made some sense.

[Stu]

I'm worried about if we have someone who gets in power, like, you know, some Iranian official, they will misinterpret those rights and use them against the American. Whatever your dumb theory is. You could say we could all. We'd probably play the clip anyway and we'd say he's wrong and dumb. But I don't think we would be able to say he's completely ignorant of the way the country was founded. That is what we are saying today. This man who was almost vice President of the United States states. 40,000 votes in three states was the difference between this man being vice President of the United States and not. And the man has no awareness of what are founding documents. Over and over and over again.

[Pat]

Outline mind boggling.

[Stu]

And not just a minor thing. Not like, you know, It's a Federalist 149.6 and they had this one little throw. Lied about. No, it's like the first thing they say. It's the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.

[Pat]

Do we have the response from Ted Cruz?

[Stu]

We don't have it, but he first of all read what I just read from the. From the. And of course, he did it, you know, very quickly and angrily.

[Pat]

He was pissed.

[Stu]

Because, you know, one thing, you know, some people like Cruz, some people don't like his style or whatever, but, like, the man knows the concept of Constitution really well, knows the founding documents really well. Has. I mean, he was drilled by his dad to memorize them. He has memorized most of these things. He. He did hammer. Yeah, he hammered Kane on it.

[Pat]

I think I could. You have it? I think so. Although I can't hear it. So maybe I don't. I don't have it. But if there's anybody who's qualified to hammer Tim Kaine on that stupidity, it's Ted Cruz. The man knows the Constitution. He knows the founders and how they came up with this stuff. They didn't just pull it out of the rectal cavity. It came from somewhere. And I thought that was pretty basic knowledge to virtually every American, certainly U.S. senators. You would think.

[Stu]

Yeah. Now, you could probably, probably convince me that AOC has never seen that sentence before. Does Jasmine Crockett. Maybe not. You think Jasmine Crockett is a complete idiot in every single way. We're all kind of aware of these things. Perhaps she's just never stumbled upon the sentence. And that's just one example of it. And really what's key there is because everyone would say by their creator, which is really key there. And it isn't key. But why is it important? Why is it important that we continually do not forget the path of these rights, that they come from God to us, that we lend them to the government. Why is that path important? Because of the word unalienable right. It is saying to everybody, guys, there are certain things that the government, no matter what their opinion is, can't do anything about. So quite clearly, if they can't do anything about these rights, they are not the ones handing them out. And if we lose sight of that, we will begin to worship government instead of God. And this was crucial to the founders. It was foundational to them. They were in the middle of dealing with government, who thought about it the other way, who said the. The rights come from the king to the people. And the entire reason the country was founded was to avoid the exact dynamic Tim Kaine thinks is awesome. This is how stupid these people are. It's mind boggling that these people rise to these left.

[Pat]

There are no words in the English language to cover how but stupid these people are.

[Stu]

You said how but stupid but stupid they are. Yes, like stupid as a.

[Pat]

But yes.

[Stu]

A human behind.

[Pat]

Exactly, exactly, exactly.

[Stu]

That's fascinating.

[Pat]

But stupidity is one of the worst forms of stupidity on this planet.

[Stu]

That's in the documents as well by the way. You'll find it in there.

[Pat]

It is, look for it. You'll see it. All right. 888-727-BECK. More coming up in a minute.

[Stu]

Well, we had another breach. Another week, another breach. Right. This is. It was TransUnion this time. One of the three major credit reporting agencies. Hackers got in through a third party application. Stole names and birth dates, even Social Security numbers. By the way, the. We have not even talked about this today, but the lead story in the New York Times today was about a Chinese hack. Chinese cyber attack may have stolen data from almost every American.

[Pat]

So not every American, just almost every.

[Stu]

Every American.

[Pat]

Oh my God.

[Stu]

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[Pat]

Speaking of China, they just put on a big, big military parade. Invited a whole bunch of their closest, most personal friends joined them for it.

[Stu]

Everyone loves a parade.

[Pat]

Oh yeah, and, and I think they enjoyed this one. Just to watch the missiles and the tanks and whatever roll down Tiananmen Square was, I'm sure it was breathtaking and beautiful and people like Vladimir Putin were there and I think 26 other heads of state from all over the world and President Trump addressed that get together yesterday, cut 11.

[Stu]

Together to sort of show of solidarity. You said that they're conspiring against the United States. What do you think they're conspiring to do? And given this is it reason why you should slap or would consider slapping secondary sanctions on Russia if they're conspiring against the US now?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I've already done that with regard to India and we're doing it with regard to other things. And I put out a truth last night. You saw that and I was the one that brought it up. I said they're only doing this, really, they're looking to. When they, when they did what they did, I thought it was a beautiful ceremony. I thought it was very, very impressive. But I understood the reason they were doing it and they were hoping. I was watching and I was watching. The, my relationship with all of them is very good. We're going to find out how good it is over the next week or two. I think that we helped China very much as you know, when they talk about freedom and I don't believe that and maybe I'm wrong I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe that America, that the United States was acknowledged for helping China to get to China to gain its freedom. But perhaps that was just a, that was a sleight of hand. I mean, I was very, I was very surprised. I watched the speech last night. President Xi is a friend of mine. But I thought that the United States should have been mentioned last night during that speech because we helped China very, very much.

[Pat]

Yeah, it's unfortunate. And I just. That's why the terrorists tariffs that he's placed on India are a little bit concerning to me because he seems to have pushed them into the arms of the BRICS nations again. Of course, they were already part of that, but they seem to be getting closer now to Russia and China, which is not a good thing, you know, for the most populous nation on earth. And there were, they were really good friends. Modi loves Trump, India loves Trump. And I think this sort of put a wedge between him a little bit. At least Modi wasn't at the parade, though. That seemed to be a real indication of, yeah, we support China and we're going to be there for him.

[Stu]

Can't agree with you more. I just don't think it's a great approach. I understand the president and look, the president says a lot of things. He just said one there which was he was surprised that President Xi would do this. He's not. The President of the United States is not at all surprised that President Xi would do this. Right. Like he's saying these things to negotiate with these organizations and these countries. And I think it's also what he's doing with India. There's a big concern here is that they are making our sanctions against Russia less effective. Now, again, I'm told that Donald Trump loves Russia and is a Russian asset. So I don't know why he would be doing such a thing. He's just apparently very bad at understanding, understanding his role as a Russian asset. But he's doing this to punish Russia and trying to separate them. And I've argued for this for many years on this show. I think one of the central things we should do right now to fight against China is to embrace India. It is a power that we can actually get along with. They have some friendliness to capitalism, some friendliness to Western values. Not all by any means there are met. Yes too.

[Pat]

But they do have world's largest democracy.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

We're told quote unquote democracy.

[Stu]

By the way, you said most populous nation. Are they bigger than China now?

[Pat]

Yes, they surpassed China in population a couple years ago.

[Stu]

It's weird what happens when you have a policy like limiting children for many, many years, your population growth over time.

[Pat]

Yeah. So India, that's why they finally removed that one child policy in China, because of that very problem. We have the same problem without the policy. So it's, you know, it's just naturally taking place for some reason where we don't have replacement rate births anymore.

[Stu]

Though it's much better here than it is in some European nations in particular.

[Pat]

Yes, it is.

[Stu]

But I just think, you know, this, we do need a manufacturing base overseas. We're not going to make every product we need here. This is just true. I know North Korea does attack attempt, doesn't work out very well for them. Cuba attempts it to make everything they can inside. You're gonna need allies. You're gonna need a manufacturing base outside the country.

[Pat]

And you know, it needs to get better. And we're trying to rectify that problem and make it better. But you're right, it'll never be completely. We can get more dependent here. Yes.

[Stu]

You know, a good example of this is chocolate. There is no place in the United States where you can grow the beans for chocolate outside of one small area of Hawaii. I believe it is. We import all of it now. I really like chocolate. Yeah, me too. Kexi Cookies burns through about 900 tons of it per week.

[Pat]

Correct.

[Stu]

K-E K-S-I.com if you'd like to have 900 tons of chocolate delivered to your home in a delicious fashion. But we get all of that. None of it basically grows in the United States outside of again. And that was one place in.

[Pat]

It's amazing. We've survived for 249 years without growing our own chocolate. How'd that even happen?

[Stu]

And you can be.

[Pat]

Look at what we've overcome here. It's amazing. It's a miracle.

[Stu]

We get a lot of vanilla from Madagascar.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

Right. And so like, I think you can be a person who says, hey, the way we've done things over the past 30, 40, 50 years, you might not like that. And, and you might want to move toward something where we are more protective of our nation's manufacturing base, especially when it comes to really important things like maybe steel or medicine or whatever. But we do need trade. We do need places that are going to build a lot of the stuff that we're not building here. And we're not going to build everything here. That's just not going to occur. So a great. If we could Be friends with India, push them in the right direction now before they start siding with Russia and China more. I think that's a worthwhile pursuit, hopefully one that we adopt pretty soon.

[Pat]

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[Stu]

Stand up, stay informed and fight back with facts.

[Pat]

Join the free Glenn Beck news [e-mail] it's Patton Stew for Glenn. Can you believe tonight is the night? NFL football. NFL football is back on the not so frozen tundra of Memorial Stadium. Is that what it is still Lincoln Financial Field. Lincoln Financial Field.

[Stu]

Almost Memorial Stadium. Which I think he meant Veterans Stadium.

[Pat]

But that's a whole Veterans. That's what it was. Yeah. Memorial. Baltimore. I don't know. It used to be. I. I don't know if there is a memorial anymore because we don't remember things now.

[Stu]

Now we only have products.

[Pat]

Yes, yes.

[Stu]

We only remember product names.

[Pat]

The Philadelphia Eagles. Dallas Cowboys. Tonight, what a way to kick off the year.

[Stu]

One thing we'll see interestingly in this broadcast tonight is a piece of cloth of some sort. Unfurl itself and reveal. Reveal the super bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles. That banner will hang and that is going to be fantastic. I can't even believe I say those things. I want my entire life Pat with nothing.

[Pat]

Yeah, with a giant two in the last two.

[Stu]

This last seven years.

[Pat]

Seven.

[Stu]

Yeah, yeah. 20, 17, 20, 24.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

You know those seasons. Yeah, actually 28 and 25, but are 18 and 25, but seven years apart still.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

An incredible thing to have lived through. And I have a feeling this is as good as it gets. So I understand that I have no sense going forward that good things will occur to the extent that with the Eagles playing the Cowboys tonight, I live in Dallas, which for many, many years of my life would have been torture in the 90s. It would have been awful. Last few years been wonderful.

[Pat]

But since they haven't won a Super bowl or been to a Super bowl in over 30 years, makes your life a little. A little less stressful.

[Stu]

How long ago was the Clinton presidency?

[Pat]

I can't remember as a while ago.

[Stu]

Yeah, it was a while ago. It's been a bit of time. Was it even. Was it even a.

[Pat]

It was not.

[Stu]

It was only Clinton's first term now, wasn't it?

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

Wasn't even that second term for Clinton.

[Pat]

That's right. There's a documentary on Netflix which I'm sure you have not watched, but I would watch it.

[Stu]

I would watch it.

[Pat]

Yeah, it's still a fascinating America's team. And then the Gambler and the Cowboys or something like that.

[Stu]

Yeah. And I'd watch it, I think, as a physician, to diagnose the psychosis that I know from so many Cowboys fans. But also the fact that just a real historical archive, like, like a, A piece of history that almost you can't track down. You know what I mean? You go back and you look at like, how, how, how was the wheel invented? You know, it's so long ago. The fact that they even had video at that time, I think is fascinating.

[Pat]

But I will say this, though, especially about Jerry Jones.

[Stu]

Interesting guy.

[Pat]

Interesting guy and pretty good return on investment. He's. He bought the team in what, 89, 88, 89 ish. For $150 million. It is now worth $9.2 billion.

[Stu]

That's awesome.

[Pat]

If he ever sells it to him, it'll be a great. But he's not going to.

[Stu]

No, it'll stay in the family.

[Pat]

Pretty good investment.

[Stu]

And I, I thought, I read that his operating revenue per year is something like $600 million, so. And he bought it for 150.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

And I will say, of all the figures that have crossed through the Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones, one of my favorites. Yes. For many reasons. First of all, he seems to be somewhat right leaning figure.

[Pat]

Yeah, he seems to be.

[Stu]

I Don't know too much about his politics, but that's my understanding. And secondly, I love what he's done with the Cowboys for the past 30 years. I think he's done a great job.

[Pat]

You didn't like what he did with them at first?

[Stu]

No.

[Pat]

First couple years, three Super Bowls.

[Stu]

But lately I've really fallen in love with the guy and I. I really am concerned. I think we should have a national go fund me to make sure his medical care is tip top. I want this guy to be around forever. I want him to be around forever doing the things that he does. Like what a great trade where he was able to give Micah Parsons to.

[Pat]

My Green Bay Packers. To the Green Bay Packers. That was a good move on his part.

[Stu]

It was a fantastic move. Now I'm worried legitimately about the Green Bay packers and how good they will be with him, but I am really excited to see him outside of Dallas. By the way, there was a story today that came out. I know we're into football a little bit here. There was a point to this, but that the Eagles reached out to try to get Parsons.

[Pat]

Oh.

[Stu]

And it's like, can you imagine? There's zero chance the Cowboys would trade Micah Parsons to the Philadelphia Eagles. Literally zero chance of. I love the fact that they tried, though. Yeah. Make the phone call.

[Pat]

That's good.

[Stu]

Why not give it a shot?

[Pat]

But it's incredible how much we care about this.

[Stu]

Why? Why, why do we care?

[Pat]

I asked myself that probably once a season. I think, wow, do I. Do I need to be this obsessed about football? Especially BYU football.

[Stu]

Yes, you are.

[Pat]

I am obsessed about that.

[Stu]

About BYU football and your.

[Pat]

Why I care so much.

[Stu]

You're a much bigger college footballer. Football fan.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

And then I am a bigger NFL fan maybe than you are. But, like, we both have that same.

[Pat]

Yeah. It is bizarre. Why. How did that happen? And I've never been able to adequately answer that question. It just is.

[Stu]

It is.

[Pat]

It is.

[Stu]

It just is. Now, you didn't. We should know. You didn't go to byu.

[Pat]

No, I did. I did not go. I didn't go to any college, BYU or otherwise.

[Stu]

Not an alumni.

[Pat]

No, I am not.

[Stu]

Which is usually what indicates alumni, that hardcore college interest. Maybe you went there.

[Pat]

Maybe family members that went. I've had children that have gone. I have not gone to byu, but, man, I am still obsessed. And not just with football, but all BYU sports.

[Stu]

And this is real. I. It will be the middle of, you know, some random season, and Pat will come in and be like, oh, I Don't. What? What's wrong? He's like BYU lacrosse. What?

[Pat]

I couldn't even tell you the rules of lacrosse. But I do care about whether or not they win their lacrosse match.

[Stu]

And there's no real unders. There's really no reason for it. I can't even. I said this before. I can't even trace the reason how. I don't know how to become a Philadelphia.

[Pat]

Because you're not from Philadelphia.

[Stu]

Not from Philadelphia.

[Pat]

You lived there for a few years.

[Stu]

I lived in Connecticut, basically where I was born in New York, raised in Connecticut. My dad was a big Giant Giants.

[Pat]

Fan, but the show was in Philadelphia for a couple years. But that's way, way after you became a child, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[Stu]

I am not at all the type. And then we do have some people. I occasionally see it around here. The Blaze circles. It's just disappointing when you go into. You move to a new city and you just adopt the team. Well, their stadium is closest to me like this. It seems to be the reason. Honestly, it makes me hate the team. Like, you know, when I lived in Tampa, I couldn't deal with the Bucks because, you know, everyone was a big Bucks fan. Love the people of Tampa. They were awesome and huge Bucks fans. And the Bucks are really good team and are one of those teams that scare me, frankly, the nfc.

[Pat]

I root for Baker Mayfield. Yeah.

[Stu]

And I like. I like Baker Mayfield, too. I like the Bucks generally, you know, but, like, when I was there, it was annoying because everyone's, you know, everywhere. It's tough to. To be the fan of the team that everyone hates, which is essentially my life every day in Dallas. But I do think there is a way, if you look back, go back in time, a lot of the things we've developed as cultures are ways for all of us to stop killing each other. And you go back to trade. If I come to you, Pat, and we're in the old timey days, and I've got. Got a bunch of wheat and you've got a bunch of flour, and we want to make a trade for it. At times there was a time, way, way, way back, where people would go to war over these things. We need wheat, they'd attack. You get the wheat, you kill the tribe. And tribes warred about this stuff all the time. Eventually, we came up with currency to try to bridge that gap. Right. So these things wouldn't occur. Politics is another example of this. Politics, if nothing else, is a way for us to stop killing each other. It's supposed to be that we Go to this central room and we all have votes and they all argue about things that are really important to each other. And because we have some way of solving them politically, it doesn't rise to the level of what it used to, which were warring factions, actual warring factions, not like the ones we call them today, where we're like, oh, gosh, Republicans, Democrats disagree. Obviously we've seen some antifa members that take this to the extreme. But generally, generally speaking, we're able to deal with people who believe other things and the political process, free speech, discussion, this is how we solve those things, or at least attempt to solve them. And I think in a way, sports feeds that same desire. We all have that inherent desire for competition, for a. We have this like base level thing that wants us to cheer on our team tribe. And what sports brings is an example for us to, to exercise those muscles without killing each other. Like, we don't. We don't need to go down those dark roads because we have football on Saturdays and Sundays.

[Pat]

Wow, that is beautiful analysis. Thank you, Sigmund. That was really good.

[Stu]

Look, you might not agree with that.

[Pat]

Analysis, but it's a. I, I wholeheartedly embrace that.

[Stu]

It's a hell of an argument to bring up to your wife on a Sunday.

[Pat]

Yes, it is.

[Stu]

I'm trying to heal our community.

[Pat]

This is my quest for peace. That's what this is.

[Stu]

All we're trying to do is solve the world's problems. You don't want that to occur.

[Pat]

Wow. Why do you love war so much? Are you for Vladimir Putin? Is that what this is about?

[Stu]

Another Russian asset in our midst?

[Pat]

This is not me just wasting three and a half hours on a Saturday and Sunday. This is my quest for peace.

[Stu]

My wife right now would be thrilled to sign up with me. Only wasting three and a half hours on Sunday. She would see, she would lock that in in a second. She would be thrilled by it. What you watch every day. Instead, let me give you an example. It's going to be three hours on Thursday. It's going to be three hours on Friday. Chiefs, Chargers. Right.

[Pat]

On Friday.

[Stu]

On Friday. For some reason, a Friday kick. Whatever. I'll be there.

[Pat]

That's weird.

[Stu]

I will be there.

[Pat]

In Brazil.

[Stu]

In Brazil.

[Pat]

Okay, then I will be there. I don't like this trend. I don't like the playing internationally. I don't like it. Why did Iowa State, Kansas State play in Dublin, Ireland, for the opener?

[Stu]

Money, I guess. Why? That happened, I guess.

[Pat]

But it's ridiculous.

[Stu]

And really a future pursuit of money more than anything. Else. I actually agree with you on that. Especially because I don't like the time zone stuff. Yeah, they play all those London games during the NFL season.

[Pat]

It's hard on the teams. If I'm the coach, I'm still say no, not interested.

[Stu]

You can't, unfortunately. But I would agree also as a viewer. It's a 9am game on a Sunday. I've got stuff. As much as I love football, church is important to me too. I've got to have to choose that one over your game. So I miss a game. I hate that. But anyway, I will watch. What do you call them? East coast, the one o' clock game tonight. I'll watch them tomorrow as much as I can.

[Pat]

Is there one on Saturday this weekend?

[Stu]

I don't think there is this week. Weekend one. One o', clock, four o' clock and then.

[Pat]

And then Sunday Night Football and then Monday Night Football and then Monday Night Football.

[Stu]

That's it. It's a one. One request I have for like 25 weeks a year down.

[Pat]

The only week the NFL has not confiscated is Tuesday. Well, Wednesday too.

[Stu]

They did have during COVID a Tuesday game, I believe. I think they did because it kept getting delayed because there's too many sick people on the team or whatever.

[Pat]

It's incredible.

[Stu]

Tuesday and Wednesday I think they did play. But yeah, it is now Thursday, now Christmas. There's games this year. Yeah, again, yeah. Thanksgiving, of course, has always been a big part of the process. They really are just rolling over the entire schedule and expanding. There probably is some point. I don't know what it is for me. I don't know what it is. There probably is some point where they get the saturation where like you do.

[Pat]

Have to go to work.

[Stu]

I have a job. I. I can't be watching every single moment of my day. But I've been seeing this trend online. Have you seen this Pat? Where there's a bunch of them. But like the one I saw this morning was a guy who is giving his wife his two weeks notice that he will no longer be available on any of these days.

[Pat]

Right. That's good.

[Stu]

Just resigning our marriage for multiple hours per week.

[Pat]

But again, we've discovered it's our quest for peace.

[Stu]

It's our quest for peace.

[Pat]

So it all makes sense. Back. We'll be right back.

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[Pat]

Yeah. Okay.

[Stu]

Very interesting developments by the way in the world of politics. Jerry Nadler is stepping down. He's not going to run for reelection. We lost him. This lost.

[Pat]

Well, we're going to lose him as a representative.

[Stu]

And you might say well he's terrible. Why would I want that?

[Pat]

You might say that.

[Stu]

However without him I don't even know who's in second place with person who jacks their pants up to their nipples. Who's the next person in line there? I don't know. It's only Jerry Nadler.

[Pat]

It's going to be tough. I'm confused. But check this out. You're going to miss things like this.

[Stu]

We're proud to join my colleagues in introducing the Protecting our Democracy act so.

[Pat]

That we remain attention to what he's saying. It doesn't matter.

[Stu]

Checks and balances.

[Pat]

It's the end to our democracy. Okay, watch this. Okay. He just pooped his pants.

[Stu]

Pants.

[Pat]

And now at least we suspect very Congresswoman Maloney.

[Stu]

I want to.

[Pat]

And now he's going to distinguished chairman in acknowledging legislation as if members of Congress contained in.

[Stu]

In the chairman's.

[Pat]

Just a second.

[Stu]

It did.

[Pat]

And then watch him walk. And also if he didn't just poop.

[Stu]

His very important work sideways part of this package.

[Pat]

And now he's shuffling out preserving our. Our democracy. With that I'm pleased to yield. What is going on? He pooped his pants.

[Stu]

The cameraman's very confused. Like am I supposed to keep this guy in frame? Like why is he. That's interesting. Pat. I. It does seem like he pooped his pants on stage.

[Pat]

It. I. I've never heard him make the admission like Al Roker once did your pants.

[Stu]

I. I pooped my pants. I do remember the Al Roker.

[Pat]

Okay. What?

[Ross]

You pooped in your pants?

[Stu]

I pooped my pants.

[Pat]

You pooped your pants?

[Stu]

And he did it at the White House, too.

[Pat]

And he did it at the White House. Yeah.

[Stu]

Now, what year was that, Pat?

[Pat]

The Jerry Nadler thing? I. I'm not sure, but I think it was a couple years ago.

[Stu]

Okay. Because I was gonna say I saw Nancy Pelosi in a mask, and I was like, if this is.

[Pat]

Everybody around him was in a mask, and supposedly he smells that bad, where people would wear a mask around him because the odor is so unpleasant.

[Stu]

He is legitimately known as the worst smelling member of Congress.

[Pat]

And that might be why. Because he poops his pants.

[Stu]

That would do it, Pat. I'm not a scientist, but I think.

[Pat]

One would lead to the other. No, it's fairly logical. You can kind of make that leap. But at least he's leaving Congress. We know that. This is Glenn back.