The Glenn Beck Program — Episode Summary

Episode Title: Epstein Accusers Say Trump Is NOT Guilty | 9/4/25
Air Date: September 4, 2025
Hosts: Pat Gray, Stu Burguiere (in for Glenn Beck)
Podcast: The Glenn Beck Program (Blaze Podcast Network)

Episode Overview

This episode dives into several high-profile topics, with a central focus on recent developments in the Jeffrey Epstein case—specifically, public statements from Epstein's accusers confirming that Donald Trump was not involved in inappropriate actions. The hosts also examine the media’s disproportionate focus on Trump, the possibility of a survivors-led list of Epstein associates, and the media’s avoidance of scrutinizing other political figures like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden.

The second half explores broader topics: the ethics and deterrence value of recent US military action against drug cartels, reactions to Malcolm Gladwell's public shift on transgender athletes in sports, a preview of contentious upcoming mayoral races, and a critique of political ignorance, particularly around the founding principles of American rights.

The episode maintains a sardonic and conversational tone, mixing substantive critique with characteristic Glenn Beck-style humor and directness.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Accusers Clear Trump of Wrongdoing

• [05:16–08:24] The hosts play audio from a recent committee with Epstein survivors, who are directly asked if Donald Trump committed any wrongdoing related to Epstein. The survivors categorically state, "No."

  • Pat (05:30): "No. So now they're, we're not interested anymore. Oh, we're all out of time. Sorry."

• The hosts mock the media’s lack of follow-up when the narrative doesn't implicate Trump, highlighting the double standard in how questions are posed to different political figures.

  • Stu (06:02): "She wasn't required to ask any questions about Joe Biden."
  • Pat (06:08): "Bill Clinton, should you ask about? No need."

• They note the odd way media and conspiracy theorists try to tie "every freaking news story" to Trump, while substantial evidence about others is ignored.

2. Media Double Standards and Political Weaponization

• [08:29–12:45] The hosts discuss media hypocrisy:

  • The lack of tough questions for Joe Biden during his presidency, despite incoming information on Epstein.
  • Stu (10:32): "Can you at least address the fact that Joe Biden was there and you asked exactly zero questions about Jeffrey Epstein for four years..."

• They argue that if there were any legitimate evidence against Trump in Epstein’s files, the Biden administration would have used it "a long time ago."

• The discussion segues into the broader pattern of targeting Trump through any available means, sometimes stretching credibility.

3. Details on Epstein Victims’ Testimony

• [14:05–16:58] Focus on an Epstein victim, "minor victim number one," who was targeted from age 14, with the media referring to their relationship as a "relationship" rather than abuse.
  • Stu (15:15): "That's not a relationship, guys...If that's what your style guide is, you should leave the company immediately. Jared from Subway might be running it..."
• Story of Epstein providing lawyers to victims to protect himself and the challenges victims face coming forward years later.
• The hosts reiterate that despite efforts to "tie every news story" to Trump, he is not connected to the abuse.

4. The Cyclical Nature of the Epstein Story in Politics

• [17:07–19:46] The episode notes the resurgence of Epstein coverage as soon as it could be linked to current political narratives, underscoring how "newsworthiness" seems to coincide with political expediency, particularly concerning Trump.

5. Survivors Seek to Compile Their Own ‘List of Names’

• [21:13–23:51] Lisa Phillips, survivor, suggests survivors themselves should create a list of known abusers within Epstein's orbit since authorities claim "there is no list."
  • Pat (21:47): "We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidently compile the names."
• Congressmember Thomas Massie is pushing for a bill to release Epstein files with minimal redactions, signaling public desire for transparency and justice.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Stu (05:31):
"No. So now they're, we're not interested anymore. Oh, we're all out of time. Sorry."
(On accusers saying Trump did nothing wrong and the hypothetical media reaction.)

Stu (10:01):
"The idea that they went four years with information on Donald Trump sitting there in front of them and did nothing about it is quite possibly the most insane position ever taken by anyone."

Stu (15:15):
"Not a relationship, guys...Jared from Subway might be running [media style guides], but not a relationship."

Pat (21:47):
"We know the names. Many of us were abused by them. Now together as survivors, we will confidently compile the names...It'll be done by survivors for survivors. No one else is involved."

Pat (19:25):
"[Trump's] involvement in the case is not worth talking about. It has been investigated. It's open and shut. It doesn’t exist. There’s just nothing there."

6. Trans Women in Women's Sports: Malcolm Gladwell’s Shift

• [25:34–36:30] Discussion of Malcolm Gladwell admitting he was cowed into supporting trans athletes competing in women’s sports at a 2022 panel, even though he disagreed with the idea.
  • Gladwell (paraphrased at 29:02): "At one point [the trans athlete] said, 'Ross, you have to let us win.' And it was at that moment that I realized the argument had gone to the furthest extreme."
• The hosts praise Gladwell’s honesty but note social media backlash for his "cowardice" at the time.
  • Stu (32:56): "My belief...is to say, hey, thanks for being on the right side now and admitting it."

7. US Military Action Against Narco-Terrorists

• [44:58–61:18]
  • Review of recent US missile strike against a Venezuela-based cartel vessel, marking a hardline approach against narco-terrorism.
  • Stu (54:09): "It's a deterrent...A drone can be over your head and blow you up at any time is going to at least dissuade some drug dealers from attempting it."
  • Marco Rubio, JD Vance, and Judge Jeanine Pirro public statements reinforce the message of zero tolerance toward drug cartels targeting America.
• Hosts note the balance between legal authority and due process for terrorists vs. American citizens.

8. America's Rights: Tim Kaine's Glaring Ignorance

• [89:33–98:55]
  • Senator Tim Kaine expresses the belief that rights come from government, not a Creator, alarming the hosts.
  • Stu (90:12): "It's one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen come out of a government official..."
  • Pat (90:35): "If they come from man, man can take them away. If they come from God, man can't take them away."
  • Ted Cruz’s response highlights the centrality of "unalienable rights" to America’s founding philosophy.
  • The hosts lament ignorance about the nation's founding, even among prominent officials.

9. 2025 New York City Mayoral Race & Political Horse-Trading

• [67:29–80:42]
  • Rumors Trump may offer Mayor Eric Adams an administration role to consolidate the NYC anti-socialist vote and block radical candidate Zoran Mamdani.
  • Lively debate about the terrible options—Andrew Cuomo versus even further-left alternatives.
  • Humorous critique of Curtis Sliwa (“all he wants to do is stop you from getting a knife in your chest”), lamenting his lack of support despite his record.

10. Miscellaneous Topics

• [38:19–43:32] Trans Athlete Boxing Ban: Hosts support bans on biological males competing in women's combat sports, state willingness to protect women even at the cost of being "extreme."
• [109:03–123:56] Football Culture, America’s Obsession: Comedic exploration of why Americans, including the hosts, are so obsessed with football — theorizing that it fulfills tribal/competitive instincts in a healthy, non-violent way.

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Start Time | |-------------------------------------------------|------------| | Epstein accusers clear Trump | 05:16 | | Media double standards / Political weaponization | 08:29 | | Discussion of media & Biden administration | 10:01 | | Victims' testimony and survivors’ list | 14:05 | | Media and political cycles around Epstein | 17:07 | | Malcolm Gladwell on trans athletes | 25:34 | | US military strike on drug cartels | 44:58 | | Rights & the Founders (Tim Kaine discussion) | 89:33 | | NYC mayoral horse-trading & Curtis Sliwa | 67:29 | | Football obsession analysis | 109:03 |

Tone and Style

The hosts use a conversational, sardonic, and sometimes acerbic tone, interspersed with in-jokes and asides. They frequently "break the fourth wall" to comment on media narratives, political hypocrisy, and cultural trends, blending insight with humor and direct audience engagement.

Conclusion

This episode offers a critical analysis of the ongoing Epstein case through the lens of political manipulation and media bias, reinforced by first-person survivor testimony. It blends sobering commentary on justice with characteristic humor, detouring through cultural analysis of sports fandom and biting political critique. The central throughline is the danger of letting political or media expediency obscure facts and genuine accountability.

Standout Quotes

Stu (15:15):
"That's not a relationship, guys...Jared from Subway might be running it, but not a relationship."

Pat (90:35):
"If [rights] come from man, man can take them away. If they come from God, man can't take them away."

Pat (21:47):
"We know the names. Many of us were abused by them...we will confidently compile the names."

Stu (73:05):
"Unlike most American cities...the people of New York have actually experimented with what it would be like to have a city run by a Republican. And what they have found is...the best periods...over the past century have been ones where a Republican was the mayor."

For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is essential listening for those tracking media narratives around sex abuse scandals, the intersections of politics and law enforcement, and the shifting contours of political discourse in America. The frank, often comedic, critique of media and political figures provides both entertainment and important takeaways about bias, justice, and the endurance of foundational American principles.