The Glenn Beck Program

Episode Title: Glenn Issues DIRE Warning: These Red States WILL Become California
Guests: Allie Beth Stuckey & Justin Haskins
Date: February 3, 2026
Podcast Network: Blaze Podcast Network

Episode Overview

In this episode, Glenn Beck sounds a dire warning: traditionally conservative "red states" — specifically Utah and Texas — are at risk of adopting the same policies and political culture that, he argues, have led to California's decline. Beck frames recent increases in state Supreme Court justices and judicial overreach as symptoms of a broader, bipartisan disregard for constitutional principles. The show also explores enormous technological, political, and economic developments (such as Elon Musk’s plans for a million satellites and the US’s global positioning), and features two extended expert interviews: Allie Beth Stuckey, discussing her book Toxic Empathy and the left’s weaponization of emotion, and Justin Haskins, previewing his newly released book The Next Big Crash and outlining the risks of opaque financial systems.

The show’s tone blends alarm, historical reflection, and calls for action. It urges listeners to defend American constitutional principles, seek truth over narrative, and prepare for potentially seismic economic and geopolitical shifts.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Elon Musk, SpaceX, and a New Space Race – The Sky as Infrastructure

[06:00–14:00]

• Major News: SpaceX and Xai have merged, creating the world's most valuable company, and Elon Musk is planning to launch 1,000,000 satellites for space-based AI/cloud computing.
• Historical Context: Beck likens Musk’s move to the historic expansion of American railroads, drawing parallels between controlling infrastructure in the 1800s (the rivers/railroads) and controlling low-Earth orbit today.
• Strategic Implications:
  • Whoever builds space infrastructure first "sets the rules," much like early railroad and telecom tycoons dictated economic flows.
  • The plan will fundamentally change how Earth’s skies look at night and how global infrastructure functions.
• Memorable Quote:

  "This isn’t someone claiming the land west of the Rockies. It’s closer to one company building every road, every bridge, every highway, and saying 'everybody else can use them, but we built them first.' Control doesn’t require ownership. It requires scale."
  — Glenn Beck [12:28]

2. Utah's Supreme Court Expansion: "Packing the Court" in Red States

[14:43–24:00]

• Issue: Utah’s Republican-controlled legislature expanded the state Supreme Court from five to seven justices.
• Beck's Critique:
  • Equates court “packing” with precedents set by totalitarian regimes, arguing it undermines constitutional separation of powers.
  • Warns that legislative overreach is how states begin down the path to ending up like California — ruled more by raw power than restrained government.
• Core Argument:

  “A legislature that expands a court after losing cases is not defending a republic. It’s announcing: constitutional limits only apply unless they’re inconvenient.”
  — Glenn Beck [16:40]

• Call to Action: Conservatives in red states must defend constitutional principles, not mimic the excesses they criticize in blue states.

3. Judicial Overreach in Texas: Danger of Politicized Courts

[24:59–42:00]

• Incident Discussed: A Texas federal judge responded to an immigration habeas corpus petition not with a legal ruling but a sweeping, moralizing critique of the entire executive branch.
• Beck’s Breakdown:
  • Judges should restrict themselves to narrow legal questions, not issue political manifestos from the bench.
  • When judges cross into legislating or editorializing, they destabilize the rule of law and set dangerous precedents for copycat decisions nationally.
• Memorable Quote:

  “When judges start to go on a crusade... you’re not a referee anymore.”
  — Glenn Beck [32:10]

• Historical Parallel: Relates modern judicial activism to the slow, quiet, and restrained building of judicial authority post-1789, contrasting restraint (then) with activism (now).

4. Demographic and Political Shifts: “These Red States WILL Become California”

[24:59–68:00]

• Trend: Influx of new residents into red states (TX, UT, FL) from blue states (CA, NY) is changing political dynamics and threatening conservative majorities.
• Warning:

  “Have you seen the numbers moving into your state? These people are not the ones that moved because they had a point. They moved because it’s just too expensive... Be careful.”
  — Glenn Beck [22:10]

• Conclusion: State Republican leaders are making decisions under the assumption they’ll “always be in control,” but demographic shifts and unprincipled actions (like court packing) will undermine that.

5. The Weaponization of "Toxic Empathy" (with Allie Beth Stuckey)

[48:37–60:39]

• Interview Segment: Allie Beth Stuckey discusses her book Toxic Empathy and responds to criticism from Hillary Clinton.
• Stuckey’s Thesis:
  • Toxic empathy arises when emotion overrules rationality, critical thinking, and moral clarity, often leading people to support destructive policies under the guise of compassion.
  • Empathy can become toxic when it compels us to affirm sin, validate lies, or back harmful legislation and social movements.
• Examples:
  • Immigration: Empathy for specific individuals used to justify riots or to abolish law enforcement agencies, even when based on incomplete or manipulated stories.
  • Abortion: Media tells only one side of the story—Stuckey urges telling the other (e.g., from the baby's perspective).
• Quote:

  “You feel so deeply for one purported victim that anyone you see as in opposition, you can justify cruelty and hatred against them — because, in your mind, you are fighting against an oppressor.”
  — Allie Beth Stuckey [54:55]

• Solutions Sought:
  • Teach people to seek truth, tell the untold side of the story, and accept that using feelings as primary decision-makers is dangerous.
  • Foster real, truthful empathy grounded in both compassion and facts.

6. Outrage Culture & Moral Clarity

[68:00–83:00]

• Incidents Cited: Outbursts against ICE, local political vitriol, breakdown of norms of civil discourse.
• Beck’s Reflection:
  • Cites Martin Luther King Jr.: Intensity does not equal virtue; outrage blurs the line between good and evil if both sides resort to it.
  • Solutions: Draw “clear moral lines” through behavior, refuse to engage in hate even when provoked, model calm courage.
• Quote:

  “Nothing exposes irrational hatred faster than somebody who refuses to dehumanize, refuses to retaliate. Calm courage is just infuriating to extremists."
  — Glenn Beck [79:00]

7. Economic Collapse Scenarios (with Justin Haskins)

[88:30–123:29]

• Interview Segment: Justin Haskins, author of The Next Big Crash.
• Key Insights:
  • The value of derivatives (financial contracts) now exceeds $1 quadrillion, dwarfing the real value of underlying assets — "a recipe for disaster."
  • Since the 1970s, our entire investment infrastructure (stocks, 401ks, bonds) is owned not by individuals, but by the DTC (Depository Trust Company — part of the Federal Reserve) via a form of pooled digital ownership. You do not legally own your stock; you own a claim to part of a pool.
  • In the event of a cascade collapse, large institutions and the DTC are legally protected: individuals are last in line.
• Why Not Well-Known?
  • Complex laws and jargon, deliberately done quietly at the state level, rarely discussed in accessible terms.
• Implications:
  • Capital controls: In a panic, government and big finance have the legal machinery to “lock down” trillions in assets, restricting ordinary people’s ability to move or protect their own money.
• Quote:

  "They built all these emergency powers laws... If Armageddon happens, everything will be okay because of this. It’s ingenious. It’s diabolical. It’s evil. People don’t know."
  — Justin Haskins [117:09]

• Current U.S. Policy Moves: Beck and Haskins interpret Trump’s international actions (oil reserves, supply chains, military positioning) as preemptive “fortification” of the U.S. against a potential global economic or military crisis.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Highlight | |------------|-----------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 12:28 | Glenn Beck | “Control doesn’t require ownership. It requires scale... This is the normalization now of something entirely new: the sky itself becoming managed infrastructure.” | | 16:40 | Glenn Beck | "A legislature that expands a court after losing cases is not defending a republic. It’s announcing: constitutional limits only apply unless they’re inconvenient." | | 22:10 | Glenn Beck | “Have you seen the numbers moving into your state? …Be careful. Bad move, Utah.” | | 32:10 | Glenn Beck | “When judges start to go on a crusade... you’re not a referee anymore.” | | 54:55 | Allie Stuckey | "You feel so deeply for one purported victim... you can justify cruelty and hatred against them because, in your mind, you are fighting against the oppressor." | | 79:00 | Glenn Beck | "Nothing exposes irrational hatred faster than somebody who refuses to dehumanize, refuses to retaliate... Calm courage is just infuriating to extremists." | | 117:09 | Justin Haskins | "They built all these emergency powers laws... If Armageddon happens, everything will be okay because of this. It’s ingenious. It’s diabolical. It’s evil. People don’t know." |

Key Timestamps (MM:SS)

• 06:00 — Beck on SpaceX, Xai, and the new “sky infrastructure”
• 14:43 — Outrage over Utah’s Supreme Court expansion; warning for red states
• 24:59 — Judicial overreach in Texas; cautions on moralizing from the bench
• 48:37–60:39 — Interview with Allie Beth Stuckey: "Toxic Empathy"
• 68:00–83:00 — Outrage/‘side of love’ hypocrisy, Martin Luther King's example
• 88:30–123:29 — Interview with Justin Haskins: "The Next Big Crash," financial system risks
• 121:48–123:29 — Trump’s global chessboard: oil, rare minerals, BRICS, and looming war

Episode Takeaways

• Red States at Risk: Beck’s core warning is that without vigilance, red states will become ideological clones of California due to constitutional shortcuts, demographic shifts, and bipartisan institutional overreach.
• Beware of Court Packing/Judicial Power: Both left and right are eroding the republic by manipulating court structures and judicial authority.
• Emotional Manipulation: Allie Beth Stuckey urges listeners to guard against political actors who weaponize empathy to push destructive or irrational policies.
• Economic System is Precarious: Justin Haskins details how legal and structural changes have quietly concentrated financial control in the hands of the few, putting individual investors at risk in a crisis.
• The Importance of Principle and Restraint: From the judiciary to state legislatures to individual behavior, the episode calls for Americans to rededicate themselves to foundational constitutional principles and moral clarity, even in the face of outrage or panic.

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