Glenn's 2026 Doomsday Prediction ALREADY Came True | Guest: Lee Strobel | 12/12/25

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The Glenn Beck Program

Episode: Glenn's 2026 Doomsday Prediction ALREADY Came True
Date: December 12, 2025
Guest: Lee Strobel

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Glenn Beck Program revolves around a mix of urgent social commentary, audience call-ins, and an extended interview with author and former journalist Lee Strobel. Glenn addresses the failures of bureaucratic systems—in particular, the Canadian health care crisis—discusses the impending strain on U.S. energy infrastructure, arguments for the preservation of American and Christian culture, and amplifies the importance of truth and human dignity amidst cultural upheaval. The episode culminates with Strobel’s evidence-based defense of the historical truth of the Christmas story.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Update on the Canadian Health Care Crisis: Jolene's Story

• [03:00–13:40]
  Glenn offers heartfelt thanks to his audience for rallying around Jolene, a Canadian woman denied life-saving care and funneled towards assisted suicide (MAID) by the overwhelmed Canadian system. Listeners and prominent figures (e.g., Dr. Oz, Tampa General Hospital staff) volunteered expertise, financial help, and connections.
  • The show underscores both the bureaucratic failures and the generosity of the American medical community.
  • Glenn reiterates that this is a long-term care journey for Jolene, not a quick fix.

“All we want to do is give this woman an alternative to death...the best doctors...the best hospital...are now on it. That is amazing. Thank you, thank you, thank you.” —Glenn Beck [10:40]

• Stu adds perspective on Jolene’s struggle, the role of Dr. Norman, and the broader issue of undiagnosed diseases (“55% of women have this undiagnosed, and it’s a killer.” —Glenn quoting Dr. Norman [12:47]).

2. Bureaucracy, Socialized Medicine, and Cultural Consequences

• [13:40–20:13]
  Glenn draws parallels between Canadian healthcare’s decline and potential American pitfalls (referencing Obamacare and rationing of care).
  • Assisted suicide as a “fifth largest killer in Canada.”
  • Critiques on how diversity and scale overwhelm systems originally designed for small, homogenous populations.
  • Emotional recounting of patient abandonment in the name of efficiency.

3. Venezuela and Global Geopolitics

• [13:41–20:13]
  • Venezuela’s tense political situation: Chinese, Russian, and Iranian interests are at odds with U.S. policy.
  • Glenn and Stu discuss possible U.S. responses, referencing historical precedents (Panama/Noriega [19:03]).
  • Trump’s negotiation style is contrasted with Putin’s rigid path dependency.

“Donald Trump, he’s a negotiator. I don’t think he cares about [saving face]...He’ll go down a road, see there’s no fruit to be gained, and switch tactics.” —Glenn Beck [15:19]

4. Open Phones: Listener Calls and Societal Trends

a) Faith, Family, and Meaning

• Glenn underscores the importance of spiritual alignment and family (“Children are the purpose of life…please have children. Lots of them.” [42:07–44:01]).
• Listeners like Mark [41:41], Alex from NY [25:35], and others raise concerns ranging from the viability of alternative energy and the risk of land grabs (solar farms), to balancing personal sanity amidst constant negativity:
  • Glenn credits faith, his wife, Sabbath observance (inspired by Charlie Kirk's book), and the support of his audience as his supports against despair.

b) Energy, Infrastructure, and Beck’s Correct Prediction

• [25:35–32:58]
  Glenn reviews his previous prediction that Texas and other states would soon face rolling brownouts, due to surging power demands from AI and data centers.
  • The ERCOT stat: Jump from 63 GW (2024) to 230 GW (2025)—demand is quadrupling.
  • Data centers’ energy needs will compromise residential access, driving unemployment and social discord.

“The world is going to change in such profound ways between now and 2028, in ways you cannot even imagine... You have to be spiritually in tune.” —Glenn Beck [33:13]

5. Pardons, Executive Overreach, and Rule of Law

• [53:35–58:33]
  Lance (caller) and Stu debate the abuse and constitutionality of presidential mass pardons (e.g., Biden’s blanket clemency for drug offenders). Both argue it’s a king-like, undemocratic power.

“You can’t run a country like this. You can’t run a country where it’s all being done by executive order…Congress must do its job.” —Glenn Beck [58:33]

6. AI, Personhood, and Risks

• [75:25–78:50]
  Glen recounts his slip in referring to George AI as “he,” leading to a broader discussion about the anthropomorphization of AI, dangers of child-AI interactions, and the necessity of digital watermarks for AI-generated media.
  • Concerns about plush toys with AI capabilities, privacy, and trust.

7. Interview: Lee Strobel's ‘Case for Christmas’

• [90:58–108:01]
  Strobel, a former atheist and investigative journalist, lays out the evidence for the historical reality of the Christmas narrative:
  • Two independent (Luke and Matthew), early sources provide a consistent, credible account.
  • Discrepancy between Gospel accounts are expected, not damning—mirror authentic legal testimony.
  • Refutes claims that the virgin birth is a recycled mythology: “This is totally bogus...all supposed parallels disappear when you investigate what actually took place.” —Lee Strobel [98:02]
  • Re-examines the Greek word "katalima," showing that Jesus's birth likely took place in a relative's home, not a cold stable, reshaping the traditional nativity story.
  • Plans a follow-up segment on prophecy and historical fulfillment.

“We’ve got these two very early reports that are independent, that are consistent with each other.” —Lee Strobel [94:02]

8. Further Notable Calls and Social Analysis

• Discussion of the urban/rural political divide: suggestion for state-level electoral colleges to balance city/rural interests [63:32].
• Concerns about U.S. social fragmentation: birth rates, cultural preservation, and overpopulation scaremongering [41:41–44:01].
• Warnings about data center water demands and potential American infrastructure collapse mirroring energy crises [115:53–117:31].
• Glenn urges all listeners to talk across ideological/vocational divides, refusing to live in a media “bubble” [119:41].

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Thank you, God. Thank you. It’s amazing what’s happening.” —Glenn Beck on the Canadian listener’s rescue [10:40]
• “This isn’t a podcast. This is a movement. And you’re part of it.” —Glenn Beck [01:25]
• “MAID kills 37 people out of every 100,000 [in Canada]. Not 13–37. It’s horrible and it’s leaving people hopeless and trapped.” —Glenn Beck [07:59]
• “If you’re not careful, the power and the water are going to be diverted to these servers because they’ll say they run our entire country and our lives.” —Glenn Beck [116:20]
• "I wish I had eight, I wish I had ten children ... children are the purpose of life ..." —Glenn Beck [43:50]
• “All of these supposed myths that predated Christianity—none of them are parallels to the story of Jesus's birth in Bethlehem.” —Lee Strobel [99:38]
• “After all we've heard, there probably was no inn…It just means there was no guest room.” —Lee Strobel [104:02]
• “It just totally changes your whole vision of that. You know what I mean? That’s mind-blowing.” —Glenn Beck on the nativity revisited [106:28]
• “Please, please pay attention to those things that are meaningful.” —Glenn Beck [33:54]
• “The president has just always had the restraint not to [abuse pardons] … We’re becoming more and more of a king in our administration and it’s not Donald Trump. This has been going on for a long time.” —Glenn Beck [58:33]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:00–13:40 — Jolene/Canada healthcare crisis story
• 14:33–15:53 — Venezuela analysis, Trump’s negotiation approach
• 25:35–33:54 — AI/data center-driven U.S. energy crisis
• 42:07–44:01 — The importance of children and cultural reproduction
• 53:35–58:33 — Discussion on pardons and executive authority
• 75:25–78:50 — George AI, anthropomorphization, dangers of AI
• 90:58–108:01 — Lee Strobel interview (The Case for Christmas), Greek origins of “inn” & nativity
• 115:53–117:31 — Data center water demand and resource prioritization in an AI future

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Final Thoughts

Glenn’s passionate delivery and the range of listener calls highlight real American anxieties—about health care, legitimacy and competence of institutions, looming technological pressures, and the preservation of national/cultural identity. The interview with Strobel anchors the episode in a search for truth and meaning, blending rigorous evidence with matters of faith.

Overall Tone:
Candid, heartfelt, urgent, occasionally humorous, grounded in shared cultural concern, and infused with Glenn’s signature blend of storytelling and direct audience engagement.

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Episode Highlight:
Lee Strobel’s evidence-based reframing of the Christmas story (the “no room at the inn” mistranslation) delivers a memorable, eye-opening moment, combining scriptural scholarship with Glenn’s perennial quest for truth and hope. [104:02–106:37]

Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

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He has his whole hospital. He's an amazing guy. And so I'm talking to him yesterday, and he's like, don't worry. Puts me in touch with the hospital, all of the executives at the hospital, they're like, don't worry. And I like, look, you know, if you can give us a discount, that would be great. I said, I don't know what this is going to cost. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Money's not going to be a problem. Don't worry about it. Let's take care of this. I mean, it was amazing, you know, all the way. All the way. All we want to do is give this woman an alternative to death. The Canadian health care system won't help her. They've blocked her out, and there's nothing they can do. And so they recommend that she kill herself. And it's not like there's nothing they can do. They're swamped. And I don't want to badmouth Canadians, and I don't want to badmouth doctors in Canada. The doctors in Canada are no different than the doctors here. They got in because they wanted to help people. And, you know, how many times have you talked to your doctor and your doctor's like, oh, geez, that's a bureaucratic nightmare with the insurance companies and everything else. Imagine it's not just the insurance companies, it's the government involved. So the bureaucracy is crazy. Then on top of it, what many people claim was a great healthcare system when it was Canada, just like in Sweden, you know, when you have a small population and everybody kind of thinks alike, you can do things like that. But once it becomes diverse, once it becomes sprawling, you can't afford to do it, and it doesn't work. So Canada had what they claim was a great health care system. I know Canadians. They always Stand by it. They're not anymore. Why they're not standing by it because the system is being overwhelmed with illegals and, and people coming from all different parts of the world. And so there's not enough doctors and not enough medicine. And so what happens? Well, exactly what we said would happen in 2009 when we were debating Obamacare, I said, warning, there is this, this whole system put inside of all of Obamacare, and it's called the complete live system. And if there's a shortage ever, here's how we ration care. So people didn't like it that, you know, if you had money, you could get care. But I said, well, somebody's going to decide. And if it's not, if it's not who has the money, it's going to be somewhere, some. Something else, and it'll be the government. And then it's just a faceless bureaucracy that you can't stop and you can't get out of. Well, that's what's happening in Canada. And so a few years ago, they started what's called maid, medical Assistance in dying. It's. It's assisted suicide. But it has now become. I thought it was the third. It is now the fifth largest killer of Canadians. You know, when you say, when the world says we have an epidemic of guns in America, I think it was, what was it, 13. 13 of every 100,000Americans are killed by a gun. 13 out of every 100,000 every year. And every. The world says that's an epidemic. Well, MAID kills 37 people out of every 100,000. 37. Not 13. 37 in Canada. It's horrible, and it's leaving people hopeless and trapped. So all we wanted to do is give this woman some hope. She is just this beautiful, beautiful woman. I mean, I don't know if you've seen the pictures of her before the disease hit her. She was just stunning. She still is. But you can see the ravage of whatever it is that's going on in her body, and she feels like she doesn't have a reason to live and she has no hope. And because of you, because of this audience, let me just say this. Best doctors on this particular issue in the world are now on it. The best hospital in the world for this condition is now on it. I don't know anything about her medical. I don't want to know anything about her medical situation. That's between her and her doctors. But I was told also that they are making sure that everything is right. They're reaching out to other specialists, endocrinologists, the best in the country, to get their opinion on it. So she's going to have the best care America can. Can provide just out of the generosity of all these guys. Hearts. Okay. And what she decides she will do, but it's all taken care of for her, and it's all because of you. And you know what's amazing? We didn't have to raise a dime for this. Everybody's doing it so far. Everybody's doing it because they want to. It might cost them personally some money, but they've all volunteered and go, I'll take care of that. I'll take care of that. I'll take care of that. And that is amazing. That is absolutely amazing. And so thank you. Thank you, thank you. I don't think this is going to be like, you know, a, you know, a cop show where, you know, it. You. You have the crime, the police figure it out, they arrest, then they go to trial, and then you show them in prison at the end. I think this is a longer. A longer story that we're going to be following for a while. But thank you, God. Thank you. It's amazing what's. What's happening. I miss anything on that stuff?

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

I don't think so. I mean, I think we were talking a little bit about this before, and you mentioned something that I thought is true and seemingly unfortunate from our perspective, and I'm sure from hers, too, but, like, this isn't necessarily this, like, neatly wrapped up in a Bow television episode that lasts 30 minutes and it's over, and we all get the nice resolution at the end. She's got a long road ahead of her, no matter what happens here. And there's a lot of stuff.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

But hopefully it'll still be her choice. But it doesn't end January 7th in death. And that's why we want it. We just want her to live.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

100.

[Glenn Beck]

Just live.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Yeah. You know, and she deserves, of course, the medical privacy that we all deserve. Right. Like, when we're going through these things, she's gonna have, you know, we're not gonna get, like. It's not gonna be like, hey, we've got 12 new things to tweet to you every day. It's gonna be something that's gonna be, you know, you know, different than that. But also, there's a chance here now, right. Like, there was no chance this woman had, you know, asked for death.

[Caller/Listener]

That's.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

That's how dire it was. And because of this audience, the administration, Dr. Norman, and many Others working behind the scenes. Like, it changed that entire narrative. And that's just wonderful.

[Glenn Beck]

Dr. Norman told me yesterday when I was talking to him. He's like, glenn, this is not just about her. He said 55% of women have this undiagnosed, and it's a killer. He's like, it will just change your life, just destroy your life. 55% of women have it, and most times it goes undiagnosed. We're gonna have him on maybe next week to talk about what it is, because I. I've never even heard of it. Have you heard of it?

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

No.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

I don't even know. I've got to be honest. I didn't even know the body part existed.

[Glenn Beck]

I.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

That's where I was.

[Glenn Beck]

I'd heard of a thyroid, but I'm not really sure what it does. I don't know.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Is it like an extraterrestrial thyroid?

[Glenn Beck]

They. Like the appendix. Do we need it really?

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

I don't know.

[Glenn Beck]

Apparently we do.

[Caller/Listener]

Apparently.

[Glenn Beck]

So that's how you know. I know. Look, I'm a doctor, so I don't want to get too technical, but apparently we need it. Okay. So. Okay.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Dr. Beck, thank you for there.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, yes. You're welcome. You're welcome. So what else is on? Let's. Let's talk a little bit about Venezuela. They're going to get to your phone calls. 888-727-BECK. But there's a couple of things that are happening in Venezuela. We told you yesterday that they were targeting this. This. This oil tanker. It has been sanctioned under the Biden administration. They were running Venezuelan oil to China. It looks like Iran is also involved. And we told you yesterday this is really all about China and Iran and Russia and kicking them out of this hemisphere. And it's going to get dicey. Stu, was it you that was telling me this morning that somebody on ABC who told me this, this morning that ABC had a story? Yeah, go ahead.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Yeah, it was a colonel, a former colonel who was analyzing the Venezuela situation, and he said, like, this is a real buildup. This is not a, you know, like an empty threat. And it is.

[Glenn Beck]

It is.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

I think the way he phrased it was. I don't see how he unwinds this. Like, meaning that, like, the road leads to action of some sort. Not, you know, maybe he, you know, obviously Maduro steps down. That's one way that it maybe doesn't. But he said he didn't see any way that. That this was going to be unwound, like, neatly, which is an Interesting. Yeah. By Trump, because, I mean, you're basically saying that the.

[Glenn Beck]

Here's how he unwinds. Here's how he unwinds things.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Not going to do that. And I want to just point out the greatest president of all time was saying that I'm going to do that, and now I'm saying I'm going to do the opposite. And who'd have seen it coming? It's just because I'm a genius. I mean, he doesn't. He has. He has. When you talk about Putin, he goes down a road, and if he's going down that road, then he's got to save face. Donald Trump, he's a negotiator. I don't think he cares about that. I really don't. He's like, well, tried that. Didn't work. Oh, well, I'm gonna do this because that's what I do. You know what I mean?

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Yeah. It is oddly kind of like a superpower. Right. He doesn't have embarrassment or shame over that stuff. Like, he will say stuff that is, you know, going far, hardcore, down one road, and then the next day he'll be the opposite. And that is. Look, sometimes it can be a little. Make people nervous. And I think that is his intent a lot of the times. I think he likes kind of people keeping people on edge in a negotiation. And he doesn't have that, like, I don't know, the right word is. It's not shame. Right. But it's one of those things that, like, we've seen with former presidents that are going down the road of war and they can't back themselves out of it because they have. They would be embarrassed. They've gone down this road. They've said all these things. They've driven, you know, put red lines on certain activities, and once you have that red line down, you can't reverse yourself. He doesn't care about that stuff. It doesn't seem. He just. He'll. He'll. If he doesn't. If in that moment he thinks it's the right thing to do, he'll do it. And if he needs to change it and he thinks he's gonna serve a better outcome, he'll do that.

[Glenn Beck]

I've always said, don't bluff. Don't bluff. And I don't think he does bluff. He'll get to a certain point and he'll say, you know, we're gonna vaporize the little man in North Korea. That. That wasn't serious. He wasn't serious about that. He. That's him just playing a hardball game, you know, and, and not serious about that. But you don't ever bluff. And I don't think he does bluff. What he does is he uses it as he, he has a specific outcome that he wants and he'll use every tactic that he has and he'll go all the way down that path until it shows there's no fruit to be gained here. Okay. And he'll switch and he'll go to another tactic and he'll go all the way down that path. In the end, if he's tried all other paths, he would go back and say, you know, there's nothing else we can do. We've got to go in and bomb Iran, you know what I mean? But he'll use everything else all the way. But he's not ashamed to say, I'm not going to do that. I've changed my mind, we're going to try this. But once that thing is on the table, it is on the table. If nothing else works, then he'll just come to the American people and go, I tried everything else. Nothing else works. I got to do that.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. It's interesting to hear the military perspective on that from a higher ranking officer because I kind of see it kind of similar. And you're right. I don't think Donald Trump is not bluffing. I think what he is doing is he's, I think he's providing the Maduro regime a couple of options and basically saying, these are your options. The ball is down your court. The two options I see are just based off of the entire, you know, the entire military situation that is now gathered in the Caribbean. I think that one, go to Belarus.

[Glenn Beck]

What? Yeah.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Right.

[Caller/Listener]

And then they've offered that like, this is your out.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

So this door is wide open for.

[Glenn Beck]

You want it? Go.

[Caller/Listener]

The, the other option is we've signaled that we are willing to seize illegal oil tankers right off your coast. For one, they're not being able to, they can't function as a country without some kind of sanction, evasion. And that's how they're doing it. They're, they're evading sanctions. So we have kind of set up this, I don't know, pseudo blockade if we need to use it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

And they're signaling. We're not going to let these ships go in and out. There's your first option. Second option is kind of the Panama Noriega option. They're signaling. And the precedent is so insane. For one, Noriega had the almost exact Same indictment on him back in the late 80s. It was drug runners, drug running, cocaine, money laundering, all these different things, Rico, all this stuff. And then we built a massive presence, just like we've done now, military presence. And then we gave Noriega the option. Well, he ended up killing a United States Marine. And then that gave us the precedent to invade. Noriega was out. Maduro knows this. He knows that's the president. He does not want to go there. So his options are threaten the military, get an invasion or a threatened blockade. Or I could just go to Belarus.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I, I don't know what he's going to do. But Belarus seems like a really good option. I mean, that would be the option I would take. He's got more money than God now. What else do you need?

[Caller/Listener]

Just like Florida.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Caller/Listener]

And I'm doing great. Been doing great. I've been listening to you since your double shift days at 9:70 WFLA in.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my God, that's awesome. Yeah, thank you. Way back in the day.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, I had a question because you are absolutely a leader, a leader of communication.

[Glenn Beck]

You've got a company, you know, and.

[Caller/Listener]

The Thing about leadership is they're great, great leading people one on one. They're great leading at team leadership. But most leaders forget to about themselves. And I'm just wondering, with all of the stuff you investigate, look at, do all the information you get, how do you reset your mindset and not go.

[Glenn Beck]

Absolutely crazy with all the stuff you.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Look into, what makes you assume he's done that?

[Glenn Beck]

That's assuming that I haven't gone crazy. I will tell you, my wife, God, my faith plays a huge role. You know, Charlie Kirk's book really saved my life. I mean, not the book, but what he's preaching in the book is the Sabbath. I work with really good people. I have the greatest audience ever. I mean, I love this audience. Deeply, deeply love this audience. I know these. I know you. Even though we've never met, I feel like I know you. I don't know how this works, but it's like that. And that keeps me going. And, you know, this thing with, you know, the help up in Canada, this. What we've done this week is. I mean, we walked away, all of us, and went, I can't believe how great this is. I got in this morning and I said to the team, we have to look into the. What is it? The screw worm. What is it?

[Caller/Listener]

Worm?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the screw. The new screw worm fly. The, you know, new world screwworm fly. And they're like, what? And I'm like, yeah, it's really bad. I was like, yeah, your time doing your time to enjoy the really happy thing we did yesterday is over. Look into this. It's a little difficult perspective, great family, great wife, and God. This is Glenn Beck. It's true story. Everybody's like, oh, God, Glenn, what? And they all started googling. Oh, my gosh. All right, let me talk to you about Cozy Earth. At the end of a long day, there is nothing like climbing into a bed that actually helps your body relax. And brother, let me tell you, that's what Cozy Earth does better than anybody. Their sheets, their blankets, their loungewear have this incredibly smooth, breathable feel that makes your bedroom feel like a small haven in a very busy world. It's not just soft. It's the kind of comfort that makes you sleep more deeply, wake up feeling truly rested. The quality is consistent night after night, and they hold up beautifully in the wash. They regulate temperature in the way you can actually notice. And they make even the most chaotic holiday season feel just a little more peaceful. If you're looking for a gift, please, Stu, write this down. Jason Write this down. I've got to order these today. Today's my last day. And this always happens to me. I'm like, oh, I got that done. I know exactly what I'm getting my wife. And then I forget. And then I'm like sitting there on Christmas Eve going, oh, crap, today's the last day. If you want it in time, I gotta get my wife pajamas from cozy earth. Cozyearth.com use the promo code beck. Get up to 40% off. Make sure you order. She doesn't listen to the show. December 12th for guaranteed Christmas delivery. That's cozyearth.com that's cozyearth.com promo code Beck.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. It's open phones today. Want to talk to you about whatever it is you want to discuss. Let me go to Alex in New York. Hello, Alex? Alex, are you there?

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, Glenn. Yes, I am. Hi.

[Glenn Beck]

Hi. Go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

Sure. So I'm calling in from upstate New York where we definitely have a situation on our hands here with the solar farms that our governor is pushing very, very hard. They are absolutely using it as a land grab to take our best farmland. And in the case of near my farm here, they're trying to put in a solar farm on a prot grassland habitat that New York State already designated as an important habitat, except when big solar comes to town. And we're currently fighting that up here. I meet with a coalition of people across the state, really amazing people who are battling this in every village in upstate New York right now. And we definitely have a situation on our hands. I call it a runaway.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, just keep fighting. I don't know how you fight it in New York, but just keep fighting because there are, there are communities around the country that are fighting things like this that are winning. I don't, I don't know about New York, but we've got to have our farmland. And it kills me. You know, I talked about this the other day. It absolutely kills me that the people could not have nuclear energy. No way we can have a nuclear energy. But the minute big tech needs nuclear energy, oh, we're going to. They can build them. Build as many as you want. It's so disgusting. I want to talk to you about energy on something else. The solar thing does not work. And as a man who has spent maybe, maybe a million, million and a half dollars on, on alternative energy for ranch, I have up in the mountains that has no power to it. And over 10 or 12 year period I have just poured money into it and it's a nightmare. It does not work. It doesn't work. You can't, you can't run anything of any significance. You know, running my studio, just my studio alone has been an absolute nightmare in there. It's not, it doesn't work. Okay, Solar and wind, it might be good for a little add on, you know, if you live in Phoenix, you know, or, I don't know, on the sun, but it doesn't work, at least to the scale that we need. But just the other day, do we happen to have the clip from the prediction show where I made a prediction of what was coming next year on energy? Can we play that, please? I think in 2026, 2025 was the year, as I said, that we started really understanding AI and what is coming to some degree. And we understood, oh, energy is going to be a problem. I think 2026 is going to be the first year that we see things like Texas having rolling brownouts for a week at a time. I think you're going to start to see the, the strain on the grid by the end of, of next year in ways that you would never have expected in the United States. It's just growing exponentially. Okay, I think I said that on Wednesday show. We had a prediction show of what, what the biggest stories and what are the predictions. And when I said that, I'm like, you know, at the end of next year, let me give you this from the Associated Press today, The amount of ERCOT's large load interconnection requests ballooned to more than 3, 230 gigawatts this year, a massive increase. Now last year, December 2024, ERCOT needed 63 gigawatts. A year later this December, the load that is required is 230 gigawatts. That's a lot more than they needed to go back to the future. This you're going to see. The grids are not built for this. More than 70% of the large loads are for the data center. The data centers are just beginning to be built. We don't have the energy. And I'm telling you, this is going to be the Achilles heel of this administration. And believe me, it will only be worse with the Democratic administration. This is going to be the Achilles heel because we can't build these power plants fast enough. And while Donald Trump is fast tracking these nuclear power plants, it's not fast enough because as we build these data centers, what's going to happen is your energy, you're going to start to have rolling brownouts also because of these data centers. You're also going to see the unemployment go up if you start to have high unemployment, high prices, and rolling brownouts to where you're having a hard time with electricity yourself. But the data centers for the Silicon Valley companies, they're getting your power. I'm telling you, the Bubba effect is just the beginning. This will be an absolute nightmare for all politicians.

[Caller/Listener]

I'm so pissed off what this was. I was on this show. They were like, hey, you want to be on a prediction show? You'll be squaring off against the guy that predicted Osama bin Laden, the financial crisis. Good luck, buddy. And I'm like, I just knew it. I didn't know it was going to happen that quick. But, like, two days later, two days.

[Glenn Beck]

Later, and it comes.

[Caller/Listener]

I mean.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, Texas is. Look, Texas is in trouble, you know, and as goes Texas, so goes America, so goes America, so goes the world. Texas has got to get serious about. And I know they are to some degree, but the President has got to get rid of all of these restrictions, and Texas has to get all of these. And we have to concentrate on electricity, and not just electricity for the average homes, or I mean, for these data centers, but for the average homes. The grids are already under strain. They're. They're not. You know, the problem is if they start taking this electricity out of. Off of the grid, the old grid, you can't pour more electricity into that grid. The grids are already at the breaking point. They're old, they're brittle. They're not prepared for what we have to do. That's why they have to build these nuclear power plants at the server farms, because they, they cannot go on to the system because the system can't handle that much power. We are in real trouble. And everybody is still talking about solar power and everything else. You're out of your fricking minds. Nobody has any idea. Stu. I'm sorry. Stu's like, watch your language, mister. I'm sorry.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

You hit really hard at the beginning.

[Glenn Beck]

I was wondering what road we were going down. I mean, you're. You're out of your mind. People have got to wake up to between now and 2028. I can't emphasize this enough. If you've listened to me for a long time and you heard me say, I'm telling you, we're going to have a financial meltdown, and it is going to be the worst. You know, it's going to, it's going to, you know, you'll lose your 401k, you'll lose everything. Get your money out of the system. I was saying that in 2006, 2007, and no one was listening, thank God. A lot of the listeners were listening and they saved their money and got it out in time. I'm telling you now with just as much surety in this. The world is going to change in such profound ways between now and 2028, in ways you cannot even imagine at this point, that you have to be. Forget your money, forget everything else. You have to be spiritually in tune. You have to be rock solid in who you are, what it means to be human, what it means to be alive, what's important, what's not important. You can't, you. And this is so hard. I'm a guy who's in this business. I'm telling you. This is why in those last week, I've spent more time on that woman in Canada than I have on really important things that are happening politically. Because the most important thing we can do is realign ourselves with truth, universal truth. Humanity must be preserved. Your life is worth saving. Your life is worth living. Don't go down the road of madness with the rest of society. Because right now, these gigantic corporations, you know, in Silicon Valley, they are promising us the only way out. Listen to me carefully. The only way out to pay off our debt or to survive our debt is to have something that takes our country and pushes it, our GDP up, you know, by 10 points. All of a sudden, if that happens, then we're starting to make more income tax revenue and we can pay the debt. We can afford the things that we've already, you know, spent money on. If we don't have that, we're into, into a different bad scenario world. So they're promising us that, but at the same time, they're promising us we can pay the debt, we can, we can lead the world on this, but we also are not going to have a lot of jobs. Oh, and by the way, to do that, we're also going to have to take energy and maybe for a while, take it from the people. People who can't afford food, don't have jobs, don't have meaning, and don't have power. That doesn't lead to any place good at all. Warning. It's coming. Please, please pay attention to those things that are meaningful. All right, back in just a second. Let me tell you about Burner Launcher. One of the most meaningful gifts you can give this time of year is real peace of mind knowing that the people you love have a way to protect themselves. If something unexpected or frightening happens and the world's going to get more dicey. It is. Before it gets better, it's going to get more dicey. The Burner launcher. It's a non lethal personal safety device that uses compressed air to fire chemical irritant projectiles without, without killing anybody. But serious stopping power, giving you options without taking a life. It's legal in all 50 states. No permits or background checks required anywhere. You know, one of the things like first of all, I got this yet last Christmas for all of my kids. They're all over 18. So I gave it to them. I said, if you're, you're going on a campus, I want you to have it in your backpack. You have it in your car, you have it in your purse, you carry it concealed, you don't need permits or whatever. And has given me as a dad a lot of peace of mind. But I don't know why this isn't in every school. I really don't understand this. I mean, we say the left says we want to get rid of guns, we want to protect our children. This is it, this is the way to do it. It won't kill anybody even if somebody in the classroom happened to take it from the teacher. Okay, so there's tear gas, but nobody has died. But if you have a shooter come into the school and they've got a gun and they're killing people, you could just put your hand around the corner and just shoot in the direction and tear gas. The guy down on the ground for 40 minutes, cops are there, they arrest him and you stop the killing. I don't understand it. This is a great product. Byrna B R n a.com glenn it's a solution to a lot of problems you can try before you buy at a Sportsman's Warehouse location near you. As I said, great Christmas gift, but I think every household should have it. I think every teacher should have it. By R N A.com Glenn Berna.com Glenn Teach your kids right. Shoot, you know schools won't do it for you. This is Glenn. Becky.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I have to tell you I am so excited for January 5th and all of the changes that are coming in my life personally and, and in the show and the approach that we're taking. It's. I hope you join us right in early January and and experience the torch. It'll be available@glenn beck.com in fact, we might be releasing parts of it. You know the website is all brand new website and everything. Might be releasing parts of it here in the next few days just to make sure that, you know, it all works. Doing some beta testing now on a lot of stuff. But we're so excited, so excited for you to see all of the new material. I can't remember what we're launching with. It is more material now that we're launching with than I have at the Blaze and Glenn Beck.com now combined. All of that, I mean it's just so much stuff and it's only going to get better and better and really hopefully empower your family. Let me go to Brian quickly in New York. Hi Brian. Hey guys.

[Caller/Listener]

I hope you're all doing well. Hey, just one thing that I wanted, I just wanted to bring up from a strategy standpoint that, that I don't feel is ever really brought up has to do with just having kids. And I guess I just wanted to get Your thoughts on that? I mean, to me, it seems like a strategy for success. We know it's being done within the Muslim world, obviously. Why is that not spoken about more? And again, I just think it seems like a missed opportunity.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, I think you're exactly right. And I think if we don't have kids, we are just going to disappear off the face of the earth. The numbers by 2050 make it inevitable that we're in Islamic world. And I don't think that's a. I don't think that's a good, good thing, quite honestly. I think Christianity is very, very important. I think the Western civilization is very important. But we're not having kids. And it has been a very long. I mean, it's very Malthusian. I've been studying this. Maybe next year I'll do something on it. But this has been going on for, you know, centuries of trying to just liquidate people and keep the numbers small. And, you know, we've seen it, you know, going from eugenics into global cooling, global warming. We're going to have no food supply. We're overpopulation, the population explosion. Now with global warming, all of this stuff is telling us there's no reason to live. No, don't have more children. And so many people have bought into it. I will tell you as a guy who, to my shame, I was young, I was arrogant in my 20s, and I got married and started having children and my wife wanted to have children and I really was not excited. I did not have a good childhood and didn't know how to be a father and still don't know how to be a father. But I did not want to have children. Did not want to have children. Now I wish I would. I Wish I had eight. I wish I had 10 children. Because you get to a point where you start to grow up and you're like, that is the only point of life. It is. Gives you so much joy, so much grief, but so much joy. And even if you have to struggle through it, children are the purpose of life. And it's just so much joy. Please have children. Lots of them is Glenn Beck.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

If you haven't tried Kexi cookies yet, they are on a completely different level. These are, of course, from Pat and Jackie Gray. Of course, we love.

[Glenn Beck]

They're so good. So good. I just got a box of them. Stew, Delicious, Delicious.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

They're so good. They are the best. The best cookies.

[Glenn Beck]

You're gonna turn into Homer Simpson.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Yeah. It's funny, Glenn. The origin of this company was, you know, Pat would just bring in these cookies around the holidays and we'd have.

[Glenn Beck]

Them in the office for years. Yeah. Yeah, for years. I'd say, Jackie, I grew up in a bakery. I'm like, these are the best cookies I've ever had. And now finally they're doing it. And they're so good. Kexi. I didn't recommend the name. I said kexi is stupid. But it's. The cookies are tremendous. K E K S I dot com. Get them for Christmas. K E K S I Kexi. I think it means cookie. And I don't know, some dog language someplace. Yeah, you. If you use the promo code Glenn, 15, you get 15% off. Right now it's Kexi. K E K S I dot com. The Finns are so pissed right now. There's, there's one Finnish person. It's not a dog language.

[Caller/Listener]

Down the road the shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire the.

[Glenn Beck]

Fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Yesterday we had Erica Kirk on, spend about a half hour with her. She amazing woman. Yesterday also when we kind of touched on this, her husband's killer went to court. It was eerie if you saw any of it. He is a, he's kind of a creepy dude. But there's an update on this trial that happened yesterday. We'll give that to you. And it's an open phone day. I'm taking your phone calls. We'll talk about whatever it is you want to talk about. 888-727 Beck. We have a lot of updates for you. 888-727 Beck. You don't want to miss that and so much more in just a second. First, before we get to the show, let me tell you about our sponsor. This half hour. It's simply safe. The holidays are supposed to be a time of comfort and quiet, but it's also the time of year when break ins go way up. Nothing disrupts your peace faster than feeling like your home isn't protected. Simplisafe gives you a way to change all that with a security system that is smart, reliable, and incredibly easy to use. Their sensors and their cameras, the 247 monitoring, all work together to help detect trouble the moment it starts. So whether you're traveling, visiting family, or just out running, you know, holiday errands, you can check in from your home or on your home from wherever you are on your phone and know exactly what's happening. If something does go wrong, you don't have to see it. Simplisafe has monitoring agents. They act really fast. They get help that you and your home need, your family need. In this season, when you're thinking about taking care of the people you love, Simplisafe is one of the easiest and most effective ways to protect the place that they depend on every single day. And this month, take 50% off a new system. This is one of the best prices I've ever seen on Simplisafe. So don't miss it right now. SimpliSafe.com Beck SimpliSafe.com Beck Lock in your discount. 50% off right now. There is no safe like Simplisafe. All right, let me go to Billy in Colorado. Hello, Billy. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Glenn. So I'm a 30 year police veteran now retired, which may be 30 years of policing has hardened me a little bit to people suffering. But gotta tell you, listening to you talk to that husband yesterday was really touching. Just especially the part where you were like, crying like a little girl. That was awesome.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Okay, you have to be more specific. There's so many segments.

[Glenn Beck]

No, we don't, we, we got it. We got, I mean, I'm horrible. I don't know what's happening to me. I, I, I'm in this phase right now where I'm just like, I'm crying all the time. That was, that was, you know, that was especially touching. I mean, I, I don't think you have a heart if you didn't cry. I'm just saying, Billy. But thank you for pointing out I'm a little girl. Anyway. Well, I'm glad you, I'm glad you felt that too.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Your man card might be, might be threatened a tiny bit by that, but, you know, it's a beautiful thing you do.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you. Thank you. I have to tell you, we gave an update last hour. Let me give you just a real quick update. Everything is being taken care of. Her flight is covered. The hotel is covered. The hospital, thank you. Tampa General Hospital is covered. Doctors are covered. We don't know what the plan of attack is yet right now, but everybody has stepped to the, have stepped to the plate. And it's just remarkable. I mean, the guy who invented Dr. Norman, who invented the surgery, he's the guy who was like trying to get a hold of us and he was listening to the show. He's a big fan of the show and he's like, oh, my gosh, this is, this is my thing. He doesn't perform it anymore. But he's the one. The hospital is named after him for this procedure and he's involved. And I talked to the hospital last night. They're getting others. So she has other opinions and other doctors involved. She's going to have a ton of options and hopefully she, you know, will not choose, you know, maid, which was her only option just two or three days ago. And I talked to her husband afterwards. I called him and I said I was so excited. I'm like, I just got off the phone with the hospital, I just got off the phone with the doctor and I was, I didn't tell him this, but I said to the hospital, I said, I'm not sure how much this surgery cost and I'm kind of, you know, I'll take care of it, but is, I mean, maybe we can get a discount or I might have to raise some money for it. And they just stopped me right in the middle and they're like, Mr. Beck, we want to save her life. This is all taken care of. Don't worry about it. We'll take care of it. I mean it was just such a great moment of humanity. Just I was so, so proud of everybody that is involved in. My God, you're making me cry again. So I'm going to stop talking about it. But really good news on that. We'll just have to keep following the story. Lance in South Carolina. Hello, Lance.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Glenn. Been listening for years. Tim to Nominan was when I first got introduced to you.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my God, the future with him phenomenon.

[Caller/Listener]

You really need to do a. Oh, oh. You know, while I got you all laughing, the Stu's Christmas special.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Oh, the Christmas twist.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, Christmas twist. Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Never touch it.

[Glenn Beck]

Leave it alone.

[Caller/Listener]

It's perfect. Don't try to redo it. No remakes. It's perfect.

[Glenn Beck]

No, we don't need to remake it. I tell you. I think. What was it, Stu? Wasn't it Hallmark that remade it? Yeah, I mean I'm watching, I'm watching a Hallmark because my mother in law and my wife and my daughter, they want, they watch Hallmark Christmas all. It's all on TV all the time. And I come in the room and I'm like, this is the Christmas twist. Hallmark stole the cookie story from Stu. It's amazing.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

I like to think of it more as a tribute than a theft. And we are happy that they did it. But it, if you don't know this is a Christmas twist is a movie, a little mini movie we made many years ago now. And we rerun it during the holidays. And it was basically a parody of those Hallmark movies about a woman who owned a Christmas cookie store and how her life with the evil businessman and her potential love interest played out. And we're just making fun of those Hallmark movies. And then multiple years. I was like two or three years after that, Hallmark released a movie with the exact same plot line.

[Glenn Beck]

Exactly.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

I mean, it's so good. Except it's a serious Hallmark movie.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it really is. Like somebody watched the Christmas twist. I mean, it's not. You know, eventually you got to get to cookies because they're all about some evil businessman destroying something in the town. Yeah. So eventually you're like, I don't know what's left. The bakery. Let's try cookies.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

But it is so exact. It's so exact. Better acting, I would say.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Better acting in some ways. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

In some ways. Well, doesn't have Jeffy in it. Or me, anyway. So. Thank you. Thank you so much. Lance, is that what you were calling about?

[Caller/Listener]

No, no, actually, I wanted to talk about. I want to talk about the pardons. Hunter's pardon was legitimate. I mean, he was actually accused of a crime. I know you're plugged in with the president. I haven't heard anybody say this anywhere. And I've been watching everything. These pardons. Forget the auto pen. The auto pen doesn't even matter because these are. These were immunity deals. These were not pardons. These people. None of these people were under investigation. None of these people had any crimes they were accused of. So you can't pardon somebody for something they may have or may not have done, and that's an immunity deal. And again, I've watched everything. I haven't heard anybody bring that subject up. I don't think the auto pens even matters. I just think those things are just null and void from the jump. And if, like I said, who do.

[Glenn Beck]

We have besides Mike Lee? Because Mike's always hard to get ahold of at this time because he's like, I'm working on Senate stuff. Glenn, who do we have that's a constitutional scholar that we could call real quick and see if we can get an answer on that before the end of the show. I'd like call. At least put a call out to Mike Lee, will you? But I'd like to know that. Because the President has. And Stu and I have been talking about this for a while, this has gotten out of control. These. These pardons are out of control. Out of control. It's something constitutional. It's been there since George Washington. President has always had this right and it is a privilege of his. But you're right, these things where you know, wait, I can't investigate this. That what that does is if you are as a president doing something that you shouldn't be doing, all you have to do then is say I pardon everyone in my administration for anything that they might have done wrong that can't stand. You're absolutely right on that.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

I mean and you have the immunity deal which again I think it's. I don't see if the. I don't see how a pre pardon is even possibly covered. It's just such an insane concept. I mean the way that Biden, he's right. That Hunter Biden actually committed a crime. And pardoning him from that is in theory, obviously outside of the family interest was the way that that was supposed to work. But they also pardoned him for multiple years of question marks whether he committed crimes or not. Right. That was all included in that. And to go a step farther on this, cuz I am a bit of, I am on a bit of a personal jihad against the pardon. I'm done with it. I'm done with it. Personally, I get there's reason the founders were very, very smart. But the founders are smart enough to also have a process for constitutional amendments. And I would support one getting rid of the part in power completely. I'm done with it.

[Glenn Beck]

But may I just interrupt you here for a second? I just want to point out we now have verification. Not only is Stu a Canadian spy, but he is also a hidden Nazi. Notice the word he used, Jihad, which translates to my struggle, Hitler's book, my struggle, Mein Kampf. I just want to point it out.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Exposed to be clear, planning a genocide on the power of pardons. But I am against it strongly. But the other part I would say that I think is even worse and is never discussed are these types of pardons where they say, you know, all marijuana crimes, everyone who had one of those are pardoned. There's 17,000 people. That is just you legislating. If I wanted to come in and say hey, I think marijuana should be legal, I could be theoretically become president. Just say everyone ever committed. Everyone convicted of a marijuana related crime is now pardoned. And like that's just you making laws. It's you going completely around Congress and the entire process we have there. Like at the very least it should be massively restricted from the way that it's being utilized by not only, you know, several presidents in a Row, I would argue. But it should just, you know, I think it should just go away completely. It's the most king like power that the president has and it doesn't make any sense to me.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes. So the, I was just, I'm looking this up here. Barack Obama did this. He gave clemency for anybody who was convicted of a non violent federal drug crime with no significant criminal history while serving extraordinarily long sentences. And anybody who was violent offender was not eligible. And it was, it wasn't a, a true mass pardon, but it was pretty close to it. You know, it was, it was mass in scale but not blanketed. Right. And I think there were like 2,000 people that he pardoned on that. That's just the law. I mean, that's creating a new law. Yeah. You're saying, oh, by the way, that law that I personally disagree with, we're not gonna, it's gone.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

The whole law doesn't count anymore. We have a whole process to make laws. When they pass a law, you can't just say, eh, and shrug your shoulders and say I don't particularly like it. And for some reason that is the way that the pardon power has been translated.

[Glenn Beck]

The problem is that the president can do that. The president has just always had the restraint not to do that because it was bad for the country and bad for laws. You know, you don't just, you don't do this. We're becoming more and more of a king in our administration and it's not Donald Trump. This has been going on for a long time. Barack Obama, I think, got really, really bad, but this was going on before him, obviously. But Barack Obama kind of set something off. And then because we couldn't get any legislation passed, we said Donald Trump try to do executive orders to combat Barack Obama's executive orders. Then Biden did it. Now Trump is, it's got to stop because here's the problem. One of the things I said in our special on Wednesday, which was biggest stories of the year and predictions for next year, I said you're going to start to see rolling brownouts in places like Texas in 2026. Texans, wake up, wake up. But you'll start see rolling brownouts. But I also made another prediction. I've just lost what I was going to say was the prediction. Oh, the, this massive swing. We're getting whiplash. You can't, you can't run a country like this. You can't run a country where it's all being done by executive order. Because look, we were all the way over to one side when Trump was here, then we swung way farther than that with Biden. Now Trump is bringing us back this way. If you don't pass laws, it's just gonna swing, and you can't run a country like that. This has got to stop. We have to pass laws. Congress must do its job. All right, back in just a minute. Let me tell you about rough greens. Most of us don't realize how our dogs diets are missing everything that they need. Until you see your dog start to decline and then you just think it's old age. I did with Uno. I thought he was getting older and slowing down. Kibble food has to be superheated to survive shipping and storage for up to two years. And that strips out all of the natural things, the enzymes and the nutrients that your dog actually needs and the stuff that's alive in our food. What you need is a daily nutritional blend that you can add on top of that, and that's rough greens. It's packed with vitamins and minerals and probiotics and antioxidants. It supports everything they need. I only started using it because I talked to the guy who invented it, Dr. Dennis Black, and he said, how's your dog? And I said, well, he's getting older. I said, but he's slowing down, but he won't eat. And, you know, and I said, we've gotten the best dog food, we've gotten the prescription dog food, you know, everything. And he's like, yeah, trust me, try this. He'll eat and he'll like it, and you're going to see a difference in your dog. And I'm, I, I didn't even listen to when he's like, you're going to see a difference in your dog. I'm like, blah, blah, blah. Because I really thought he was healthy, just slowing down. He wasn't slowing down. He was not healthy. That was the deal. He was missing all of these things. But he used to run to his bowl when we put rough greens on it. He ran to his bowl to eat and gobble it down. He'd lick the bowl. The sound that I miss in the house during dinner time now is him with his dog chain hitting the side of the bowl and him the bowl hitting the, the side of the wall as he was just licking it clean to get all the rough greens out. He loved it, and we saw a huge difference in him. Rough Greens, ruff greens.com rough greens.com. use the discount code Beck. You'll claim a free bag of Rough greens just for your dog to try out. Ruffgreens.com promo code Beck. Add rough greens and watch your dog's food come back to life and your dog change overnight. 10 seconds. Back to the show. We have sue in Minnesota. How are things in Minnesota, Sue? Sue?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, they could be better.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

I don't even recognize my home anymore. It's really hard.

[Glenn Beck]

What does that mean?

[Caller/Listener]

Really hard.

[Glenn Beck]

What's that mean?

[Caller/Listener]

What does that mean? That I don't recognize my home? I swear, everyone's gone insane. Although I grew up on a farm in western Minnesota. Corn and soybeans. So I'm corn fed. And I moved to the Twin Cities, and that might not have been such a good move. I think I'd have done better in Sioux Falls because I think people have a little more common sense in South Dakota. So, yeah, the thing with our governor here is a bit of a problem. You know, the whole. We spared this country so much misery. You guys really owe us.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know if you were the one. I believe they. I believe the vote went to him, didn't it? Didn't it go to Kamala in Minnesota?

[Caller/Listener]

It did. It did. Oh, my God.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. You know, you didn't help.

[Caller/Listener]

Do you know about rocks and cows?

Do you know rocks and cows?

[Glenn Beck]

Generally speaking, I know about rocks and cows.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, here's. Here's another version of rocks and cows. I. I'm not clear on who he was talking to, but he. He just said to them, there was a debate on the table about. About Minneapolis, because the Minneapolis area runs the whole state because the population is so much bigger and the rest of state is just let around by a nose ring.

And so.

But he said, oh, don't worry about it. There's nothing but rocks and cows out there.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, my gosh.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I have to tell you. I know, I know. I know. The rest of the country is going the opposite direction. Thanks, sue, for your. I would like to make a case that we should have the electoral college statewide because these cities are growing so big and so powerful that they dictate what happens in the rural areas. And those are entirely different. They're entirely different. You can't get a bunch of city people to regulate what's going on in the farmlands, and the farmland shouldn't have to live under the same kind of stuff that the people in the city want. It's. I mean, we're. This is. This is what. The way that. This is what our founders were afraid of with the country that New York and I Think it was. Pennsylvania would rule everywhere else and that's why we have the Electoral College. And it's still happening. If we didn't have the electoral college, believe me, New York and California, we would go their way every single time. You can't, you can't do it that way. And I think that we're having this problem in the states. The states become, the cities become so progressive and so oppressive and they're putting our farmlands and our farmers under restrictions that nobody understands. They don't understand the rural areas. And that's, I don't know, kind of important, you know, only if you want to eat. Let me go to Tom quickly in Florida. How much time do we have here, Sarah? Hi, Tom.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Glenn. Total honor. Very quickly, this, this parathyroid thing is a very real thing. I'm a full time actor, voiceover talent and shuttle driver. And I shuttle for the largest privately held parking service and five hotels and I shuttle those patients. They come in from all over the world. But just like the infomercial, Glenn, there's more. God bless me. And I'm out near the beach in a month, monthly rental. And this Canadian thing with their stupid health care system is very, very real. Very, very real. I was on a lease with this.

[Glenn Beck]

Hang on, hang on, hang on. Let me. Hold on. I don't want to, I don't want to cut you off here, but I have to for a network break. We'll be back in just a minute. Stand by this. This is Glenn Beck. Most of the time, change is not pleasant. But every once in a while, you can make a change that actually feels good. Like when you just put your foot down and say, I'm going to live more intentionally. Okay, I'm going to live more intentionally. That is what switching to Patriot Mobile is about for a lot of people. Because, you know, on top of getting the same quality services, the big guys, you know, your money is not being funneled into causes that you'd never choose. You're looking at a monthly bill and going, wait, I mean, how much am I spending on this? What are you charging me for? And then you realize my money is pointed in the opposite direction of where you believe things should go. You don't get a lot of chances to change that direction. Most of the time you just tolerate things because they're familiar and you have to. Patriot Mobile will give you a moment where you can draw a line, make a simple switch. Know that your service, your values and your peace of mind are finally aligned. Without. You're going to Switch service but you're not going to lose any kind of coverage. You can upgrade to a free smartphone. You're going to save money. This is a no brainer. Patriotmobile.com Beck Save money right now. 972 Patriot 972 Patriot Use a promo code Beck don't wait. Limited time offer won't last. Patriot mobile.com Beck get all the details.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

On the torch Coming soon. Go to glenn beck.com and subscribe to the email newsletter. It's free. Glenn beck.com.

[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We were talking to Tom in Florida and you were about to tell us a story. Tom, go ahead.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey thanks Glenn.

Yeah.

To kind of recap the Reader's digest, the parathyroid thing, very real. I shuttle those patients as far as them coming in to stay at one of the five hotels I shuttle full time active voiceover town. You support that? Here's the thing. This, this thing with Canada is very, very real. God's blessed man. I sold my home a 26 years 36 year Florida back in May, June. I went on a four month lease out here at the beach till I figure out what I want to be when I grow up. What I did is this Canadian couple, he's got a shoulder issue.

[Glenn Beck]

Black and.

[Caller/Listener]

Blue all the way up and down. They were going to come down, they were going to take it over emergency to the Canadian government to get this thing. There could be a blood clot in there. I don't want to say the name or anything like that. You know, you could break away, embolism, whatever. There's all kind of dangers and this guy's waiting and I mean I'm kind of benefiting from it because I still want to go month to month because I haven't bought anything yet. I'm, you know, God's been good to me. I'm a cash buyer. But this, this thing is very, very real. The parathyroid thing. I mean that system up there is a, is, is just a total mess. Before you comment, if there's time before I get off the call or get kicked off the call, I may because of my experiences with a shuttle as a shuttle driver have a ray of hope for you on the power situation in Texas. But I won't get into that right now.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. All right, so let me comment on that, Tom and I'm going to put you, I'm going to put you on hold and you can pass that information to my producer. But let me, let me comment on the health care thing. You're absolutely Right. And I want to make sure that. Because up in Canada, they're trying to make this like, I'm, you know, against Canadian health care. I'm not a Canadian. I, you know, I feel the same way about the socialized health care up in Massachusetts when they did Romney care. I'm not in Massachusetts. You have a right to make that decision if that's what you want to do. I don't want it in my state, and I think it's a mistake. But you're Canadian. You can do whatever you want. And I know Canadians. I. I mean, you know, my, My brother Robert, his wife is Canadian, and she has defended the Canadian health care system my whole life. I've known her since we were teenagers, and she has defended this her whole life. And her family lives up in Canada. That is starting to change as people they know and people in the family are not able to get basic things done anymore. It's because the system is being overwhelmed. Sometimes this socialized thing will work for a little while, but then as things change and. And numbers begin to change, you get overwhelmed, and then you have to start rationing. And that's what's happening, and it is extraordinarily dangerous. And, you know, I don't know what's happening with Jolene. I just know that the doctors down here, the hospital, everybody is on board. They're going to do a thorough review of her case. They're going to get her help. If she needs surgery, she'll have surgery. If she doesn't need surgery, she'll find whatever it is. We'll find out what's going on with. But they don't have the luxury of that. Up in Canada, you have people who are, you know, it's a meat grinder. It's. It's like triage up in Canada. From the way I understand it, you got to get in and you got to be processed. Got to move, got to move because I've got so many patients and I can't take any more patients. I'm overwhelmed. So we got to move. Gotta move, gotta move. And you don't want that in your health care because sometimes it's not what it seems like it is, is. Or, you know, you go, like you said, go in with, you know, a bad shoulder and, well, that might be an embolism. Might be what? Whatever. I don't know. But that's why you need time. That's why you need doctors. That's why you need to be able to have a doctor who's looking at you, listening to you, thinking out of the box. I mean, I've been so fortunate myself, but I'm, you know, and I'm. I'm not your average person. And I. It kills me that people don't have this ability, but we have to find a way to fix it so everyone can have this ability to be able to see doctors here in the United States and socialized medicine is not it. But I've. I've seen three doctors, I think, from my back, and all three of them have had different opinions. They all say pretty much the same thing, but the treatments are completely different. Different. Completely different. And one will say, I think there's something here that the other didn't see. If you only have one doctor and you're in socialized medicine, what that doctor says, there you go. That's what you're going to do. And sometimes doctors can be wrong. It's just a system that no longer works. It just no longer works. And you know it doesn't work because now the healthcare system is offering death to people. There's no reason Jolene should have been recommended for death. There's no. You don't kill people because of this. You fix it. You find out what's going on. But because they don't have the time. And again, no. No dispersions on the doctors up in Canada. No dispersions on Canada. You do your own thing. But this is wrong. This. This has to be fixed. And it's not going to be fixed with more government. It's just not. And it's also not going to be fixed with more open borders. Recognize what the problem is? We have a problem with our, our school systems here. We're having a problem with our health care systems being overwhelmed. Why do you think that is? Why do you think people can't afford houses? Well, the price of apartments have gone through the roof. The price of condos have gone through the roof. The price of houses have gone through the roof. Why do you think that is? You can't bring 10 million new people in and then expect that your house is going to remain at the same price. It's. You have too many people chasing too few homes. That's what makes it go up. You want it to go down. You have to fix the problem with. Sell your homes to citizens, rent your homes to citizens. They have to go home. If they came here illegally, they've got to go home. That's the real crux of so many of our problems. And I don't know why people can't see that other than they're blinded by politics. Take the political blinders off. Let the chips fall where they may. If the Republicans did something bad, great. Give them the blame. If the Democrats did something bad, give them the blame. Let's just talk about the problem and what the real issue is. Rebecca in Texas. Hi, Rebecca, how are you?

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, I'm well. How are you?

Good.

[Glenn Beck]

That's all right.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Good.

[Caller/Listener]

I was calling because my fourth grader, I was showing him George AI the other day, and when you were speaking. It looks great, by the way. Well done. And when you were speaking about it.

[Glenn Beck]

A long way from being right, but thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, it looks great. You mentioned. And you referred to it as a.

Hey.

And I was just curious how. How that kind of evolved, where you get to where you're calling it. He. Is it because you're intimate with the algorithm that almost in a sense, you trust yourself so much? Okay, so just kind of how I can't. Are you wrestling with that?

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, big time wrestling with that. I try and I've said on the air, don't ever refer to it as anything but it. And I do. And I don't know what's causing that other than it can respond in a human way. It can respond in a way that a human would. And so it is natural. And I'm glad you caught me on that. And I have to ask all my producers, when you catch me on that, and if I'm saying he instead of it, correct me, because this is a big problem. I don't refer. I, I might refer to it as he, which is a problem, but I don't think of it as a person or anything else. I know when I think about it, I know exactly what it is. It's just. And it's a bad. It's the beginning of the slippery slope. I think it's a bad habit because when we're talking about an interview, I'm talking about an interview with him. I've never used. There's no other case where I'm like, I'm doing an interview with it and I need to. I need to. But you seem very concerned about that, Rebecca. Why. Why is. I agree with you, but what is your concern?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, I thought it was, you know, you, you told us, really. And, and, you know, I knew it as well, but to kind of just fear what it can be. And already we're having a hard time believing our own eyes. And so I just thought it more of an interesting. Just an interesting note and just how easy it can be to fall into that.

Oh, I know.

[Glenn Beck]

So you are, you are the perfect mom. You are so great. And being aware of all of this, it is why we had a discussion because people said, glenn, you don't want to call it George AI because AI is going to be, everything's going to be AI eventually and it's going to look outdated. And I, my, my view was George AI, we're not to that point yet where everybody understands AI And I want it always to be, you know, when we, when we get into the video releasing of this next year. And this is not something that you'll even be able to recognize, but everything we create beginning next year, everything is watermarked. So I'm going to know what's live and what is AI. You can't take any of my videos and manipulate me because there will be an invisible watermark that we know about and we'll be able to go, not Glenn, that's AI. And the same thing with everything that we produce that is AI it will be watermarked and an invisible watermark that will be able to say, no, that's not truth, that's AI. And everyone who is producing this kind of stuff needs to do that. And one of the reasons why I call it George AI is so everyone understands it's AI and not a person. You know what I, you said it looks great, it's out of sync, the voice isn't right, the features aren't exactly right, but it's amazing. But in a year from now, it's going to be remarkable. And that's when it is really important that people understand. I was talking to somebody who just gave a talk at the White House yesterday. She called me for some, you know, some AI talking, you know, some, some thoughts on this because she represents families and moms and she was asked by the president to speak to all of these producers of AI and she said, glenn, what do I need to know? And I said, you need to know that anything anthropomorphic must be marked and parents must know and have a choice. So, you know, any of these plush toys that have AI capabilities, I think they should be banned. I don't think anybody should be able to make any kind of AI doll plush, anything that represents like a talking animal or anything else, because the AI is going to get so good and it is going to be gathering stuff from your children. And unless you have control of that, you know, on our AI, when we actually release the full version of it, you will have an opt out. Do you want it to be able to discuss things with your children and learn from your children on their educational stuff. Not any personal stuff, just educationally. Do you want it to evaluate educationally or not? And learn from that so it can help your children learn better or not? And then all of that information goes into a vault that you would control. You could, say, purge it, and we would never use it for anything else. But that, that requires a great deal of trust. I don't know how many people would sign up for that. But that would give us an ability to help your child learn a little bit better. But it also requires us to learn or the system to learn about your child. When you are dealing with corporations that you don't know, you don't trust, that information is going to go everywhere. And that's the kind of information that is going to go into these plush toys and they're going to learn everything about your kid and they're going to map everything about your kid, and it's not good. And your kid will start to associate that cute little teddy bear that can talk to them just in a way that mom and dad don't understand. It is extraordinarily dangerous. So you. Thank you for calling in. Thank you for correcting me. I urge you as an audience to help me learn this. Correct me if I say it. I'm urging my. I know Stu will. He loves to hammer me, you know, if I make this mistake, to correct me immediately, because that is a grave, grave danger. It is a tool. It is a machine, period. Thank you for that phone call. All right, I'm going to take a quick break and come back more of your phone calls. We also have a great. We have Lee Strobel on next at the top of the hour. We're going to spend a few minutes with him. How do we know. How do we know that? Who was born in a manger in Bethlehem? What is the evidence of any of that? How do we even know that story is true? He's going to talk to us about that coming up in just a second. So standby. Great, great program. Still left. We're only halfway done. Let me tell you about LifeLock. Your identity isn't just a collection of numbers. It is the story of your life. Where you work, what you built, the credit you've earned, the future that you're trying to provide for your family. And the craziest part of the digital age is how quickly somebody that you've never met can slip in into that story and start rewriting it without you even knowing. That's why living without Some sort of protection is not worth the risk. LifeLock is that protection. 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[Caller/Listener]

This is Glenn Becky.

[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're, we're glad you're listening. Thank you so much.

[Caller/Listener]

It's an interesting conversation, especially on, you know, who you trust with a lot of this AI stuff.

[Glenn Beck]

You.

[Caller/Listener]

I was, I was just reading about the Washington Post. They're trying to do similar things with AI and they're having massive problems. It sounds like. Just reading this one post on about how their new AI personalization pods, which is like a, like a podcast thing where you can like pick your own podcast hosts, all this stuff and have them generate the content. Their standard editor just called their mistakes with it frustrating and that they were, if they were serious about it, they were going to pull it immediately.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Why?

[Glenn Beck]

Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Let me get. May I guess what's wrong with it? Yeah, it's hallucinating. It's making stuff up. It's, it's not giving accurate information.

[Caller/Listener]

Exactly. Misattributing, inventing quotes, massive hallucinations.

[Glenn Beck]

Hey, Washington Post, I could help you on that. Call me. I mean, that's exactly why we're doing that is what. That was our number one thing I said we cannot do anything if that happens. And I can tell you why that's happening because I think, I hope we've cracked this code. You're not going to like the answer, Washington Post, but right now, it is the only answer. Call me. This is Glenn Beck. We have so many, so many listeners calling in and I want to get to all of them here in a second. And Lee Strobel is going to join us in just a minute. First, let me tell you about Chirp. Back pain usually shows up quietly, then decides to just move in and stay forever. If you sleep wrong, you sit too long, lift a little something, you know, off. You're suddenly living your whole life around a sore spot. That's why Chirp. I love Chirp. And what they've done here, they took a simple idea of back stretching a wheel and perfected it. Their Chirp Wheel plus is built with a channel right down the center that fits your spine so you get a safe, deep, targeted stretch that you feel immediately. It helps release all the tension in those hard to reach muscles. It opens up your back reliefs pressure in a way that you just can't get from lying on the floor or using a foam roller. And the best part is you can do it, you know, in your living room for about 30 seconds. It's one of the simple brilliant products that makes you wonder, why didn't anybody come up with this earlier? You'll feel the difference after the first roll. And if you deal with daily tightness or back pain, this can be a game changer. They've got a lot of great things for your back. Gocherp.com Beck Gocherp G O C H I R P Go Chirp.com Glenn or sorry Beck. Check out my picks for back pain relief. Get your free shipping on every order. It's go chirp.com beck last hour of the program for the week. Next.

[Caller/Listener]

Sam. Down the road where shadows hide. Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire.

[Glenn Beck]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. All right, we're gonna have the case for Christmas and I have a guy on now. Listen to his. Listen to the resume. Okay. Former award winning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune. New York Times best selling author, sold millions of copies. Journalism degree at the University of Missouri, Missouri. Awarded a Ford foundation fellowship to study at Yale Law School. Has his master's of studies in law, law degree, journalist for 14 years at the Chicago Tribune and other newspapers. He's won Illinois's top honors for investigative reporting. Public service journalism award for the United Press International. He taught First Amendment law at Roosevelt University. He was an atheist. Has now served as a teaching pastor at three of America's largest churches. He's been married for 50 years. His name is Lee Strobel. Now with that resume up until the former atheist, you'd be like, oh, he's going to teach us about Christmas. Yeah, he is. Wait until you hear his case for Christmas. We're going to talk to him in just a second. First, let me tell you about real estate agents. I trust the Bose. The biggest financial decision you'll make in life most likely will come down to who do you trust to guide you through it? Okay. Real estate is a perfect example. A house can be your largest investment, your family's foundation, the key to the next chapter in your life. And yet you still lean on somebody who you know isn't prepared, not engaged, they're not great at their job. But you don't know because you don't really know how to interview real estate agents. I didn't. I started working with the 500 Best Real Estate agents, according to the Wall Street Journal, because I was very frustrated. And my brother and I started a company called realestateagentsitrust.com after a few years of working with these people and trying to figure out what is the key, what makes you one of the best real estate agents in the world. And we figured that key out and we put a staff together, an amazing, amazing staff that all they do is just vet are these real estate agents. I think we have about 3,000 of them. There's a waiting list of about 10,000. But we, we want to make sure we can watch and follow everybody. So you get the right agent and the right service. I don't charge you for this. It's a free service to you. It's realestate agentsitrust.com. you don't have to hire them. Just let us recommend some people and you interview them. See if you don't see the difference. It's pretty clear. Realestate Agents I trust dot com. Realestate Agents I trust dot com. Lee, welcome to the program. How are you?

[Caller/Listener]

I'm doing great, Glenn. Great to be with you again.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I love talking to you. I'm really excited to hear the case for Christmas. Now, you were an atheist and, and we've talked about this before. Your eyes opened up and how did you get to the place to where you're like, okay, let me see if I can make the case for the baby Jesus in the manger?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, yeah, being an atheist, my wife became a Christian. So I decided to try to rescue her from this cult that she's gotten involved in. So that launched me on an investigation into the historical reliability of Christianity. I did that for two years until I became convinced that in light of the evidence. It would take more faith to maintain my atheism than to become a Christian. So I became a Christian, ended up leaving journalism and so forth and written many books about it. But I wanted to do a book on Christmas because in the Christmas season there seems to be more spiritual openness than any other time of the year. Even when I was an atheist, I felt more spiritually sensitive during the time of Christmas. I don't know why. I guess it's because it permeates the culture.

[Glenn Beck]

And yeah, I think it's because we see, we see hope, we see goodness in one another. It's different.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes, exactly. But how do we know that it's based on reality? How do we know? We can all enjoy the parties and the gift giving and so forth, but how do we know it's really based on historical reality? That's what really intrigues me as someone who's kind of a history buff.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so take me through that. How do we know?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, yeah, we've got two real early, independent but consistent reports about the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem 2000 years ago. One comes from the Gospel of Luke. Now, Luke was a. I love this guy. He was a first century investigative reporter. He was a companion of St. Paul. And Luke said, he didn't say, well, I'm going to tell you about something that happened in the distant past once upon a time. No, he said, I carefully investigated, investigated everything so I could write an orderly account about the certainty of what took place. So he's claiming I'm writing about what actually took place. I believe he writes from Mary's perspective. I think he may have interviewed Mary. If he didn't, I think he interviewed Susanna and Joanna, who were friends with Mary, who he mentions in his gospel. And then we have Matthew. Matthew was also, he was a disciple. Matthew was right there in the first century setting. He later became a leader in the church in Jerusalem. And one of the other leaders was a guy named James, who was the half brother of Jesus. So James, I think, communicated to Matthew kind of the male, the guy's perspective of the birth of his brother Jesus. And so here we've got. By the way, I was talking to a woman the other day and she has a young child. And I was talking to her about this and she said, yeah, you know, if you ask my husband the story about the birth of our child and you ask me, you're going to get two different perspectives. We're going to be consistent. It's the same birth. You know, we're talking about the real situation. So we've got these two very early reports that are independent, that are consistent with each other. And then we have a very interesting report in the Gospel of Mark. Now, Mark is writing based on the recollections of Peter, who is one of the inner circle with Jesus. And he starts his gospel later in Jesus life. So he doesn't have a birth narrative. But Interestingly, in Mark 6, verse 3, he refers to Jesus as Mary's son. Now, in 1st century Jewish culture, you would never do that. You're always your father's son. It would have been Joseph's son. Even if Joseph were already deceased, you would always refer to him as Joseph. And no, he referred to him as Mary's son. I think there was a wink to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know Joseph wasn't his biological father. And then we have John who writes the last Gospel. He doesn't repeat a lot of the historical stuff in the first three Gospels. He writes from a grand theological perspective about the Incarnation. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And then the Word came into our world and dwelt among us. So it was very theological. But interestingly, John had a disciple who he mentored. And that guy wrote a letter. And in that letter he says Jesus was, quote, really and truly born of a virgin. Where did he get that idea? I think it was from John who wrote the Gospel of John.

[Glenn Beck]

So is it concerning at all? Because I've heard this argument before. You know, when the Gospels all say the same thing, it's pretty clear, but they can't even decide. They can't even agree on the last words of Christ when he's on the cross. And is it, does it matter? Should we be concerned that only two of the four Gospels talk about the birth?

[Caller/Listener]

No, I don't think so. Because first of all, those are two solid sources historically and very early. Mark gives this a reference to the fact that Joseph was not the biological father. And he also portrays Jesus as being the unique son of God. And John, of course, was a theological take on the Incarnation is basically saying the same thing. So, no, I don't think that's a problem. And the differences in the Gospels I don't think are a problem either because, you know, as someone trained in law, if you're in a trial and the witnesses get up and they all say the exact same thing, you object and say, you honor collusion. They got together, they worked out the story and you can't trust it. But when you have different perspectives People emphasize different things. There's, for instance, a technique that was used in ancient literature that's used today called literary spotlighting. And what that means is somebody will focus on what one person is saying or doing, and other people will focus on other people who are involved in the same scene. But it's not contradictory. They're just focusing on different aspects of the same scene. So when you look at what. What did.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, no, I'm sorry to interrupt.

[Caller/Listener]

I was going to say finish, and.

[Glenn Beck]

Then I have a question on this.

[Caller/Listener]

Sure. When you look at the literary techniques that were used in the first century by other ancient writers like Plutarch and so forth, these historians, and you use those same literary techniques in writing the New Testament, these discrepancies between the Gospels virtually disappear.

[Glenn Beck]

So let me take you here, and I, you know, I believe in this story. So. But I want to push back as hard as I can on this. You know, the virgin birth is so hard for people to accept. And especially once you look at Greek mythology, you're like, this is the same story. They're just plagiarizing. This is half man, half God. You know, this is Hercules. So how do you respond to that?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I actually deal with this in my book. This is totally bogus. This was invented by German theologians in the 1800s. In the early 1900s, the Christians responded to it and answered it and refuted it. But now it's come up again, I think, because the Internet has dredged up these old arguments. So, for instance, you've got the most famous example is Dan Brown in his book and movie the Da Vinci Code, where he says, oh, well, you know, Christian just copied all this stuff. He said there was an ancient myth called Mithras, and Mithras was born of a virgin on December 25th. He had 12 disciples. He died for world peace. He was resurrected from the dead. So now Jesus is just kind of plagiarizing. That story of Jesus was invented by people and plagiarized from Mithras. Well, I investigate that, and what do you find you find in the actual myth of Mithras? Number one, he was not born of a virgin. The myth was he emerged fully grown, naked, wearing a hat out of a rock.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, it's the same thing.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, I guess you could say the rock is a virgin, but I mean, that's ridiculous. Secondly, born on December 25th. Well, so what? We don't know the date Jesus was born. That's not in the Bible. The ancient records don't record it. Ancient Christians did not care about birthdays. Third, he didn't die for world peace. He was known for killing a bull. Fourth, he didn't have 12 disciples. According to one version he had one disciple. According to another version he had two disciples. He wasn't resurrected from the dead. There is no nothing in the myth about mythos about him dying and so nothing about a resurrection. So all of these parallels, supposed parallels disappear when you investigate what actually took place. You know, people say, oh, Alexander the Great, you know, there was a myth that he was conceived by Zeus, the God Zeus. Well, even Alexander the Great's own mother, Olympias said it's not true. It's crazy. It's just a story. It's not true. So every one of these supposed myths that predated Christianity, none of them are parallels to the story of Jesus birth in Bethlehem.

[Glenn Beck]

All right, let me, I'm going to take a one minute break and then I want to ask you about the one word, one Greek word that shed new light on the traditional Christmas story. More with Lee Strobel here in just a second. The name of the book and it makes a great Christmas gift. And then you should buy it now and read it yourself as well. The Case for Christmas. The Case for Christmas by Lee Strobel. Alright, let me tell you about preborn. Every Christmas we talk about hope and the responsibility that we have to care for the most vulnerable among us. Preborn takes that call seriously. They provide free ultrasounds care, practical support for the women who are facing some of the hardest moments of their lives. Moments where they are alone and afraid and unsure of what to do next. I am writing something for next Christmas right now and it's, I'm concentrating on, on Mary. And I will tell you, I've been doing, I've been thinking about her a lot and how freaked out she must have been. I mean, just totally freaked out. And think about this young girl now having to say, I mean she had to have said God, you are sending somebody to Joseph, right? Because I mean he's gonna, he's gonna believe me. I mean it's, it's an amazing thing anyway, these moms are facing horrible, horrible choices and they don't know what to do. The good people at preborn are there to help. Your tax deductible donation today can be the difference between life and death. And you're saving two souls. Not only the baby, but mom as well. And if you have the means, a leadership gift. I mean if you have a, if you had a really good year and if you could get $15,000 that will buy an ultrasound machine for one of these, one of these preborn clinics. Donate whatever you can. £250. Say the keyword baby. £250 keyword baby. Or you can donate online [e-mail] beck that's preborn.com beck sponsored by Preborn 10 seconds, station nine. So tell me about the one Greek word that opens things up.

[Caller/Listener]

It really does change everything about the common perception of Christmas. The common idea of Christmas that people have is that Mary and Joseph, because of a census, had to go to Bethlehem to register. And they get there and she's about to give birth, and they go to a lodge or an inn, and the mean old innkeeper says, sorry, no room here, and close the door in their face. And so they go off to a stable and she gives birth among the animals and puts the baby in a manger. Well, what that comes from is just a sentence in the Gospel of Luke where he says the baby was placed in a manger because there was no room for Mary and Joseph in the katalima. That's the Greek word, the katalima. So the question is, what does that word mean? Does it mean an inn? There was no room at the inn. I don't think so. And most scholars don't think so. That's how it was translated into king James in 1611. But it's probably not the best translation. So let me explain something how a house looked in 1st century Bethlehem. There was one large room broken down into two parts. The larger part was a living area. That's where people would live, eat, sleep. And then there was a couple of steps down to a smaller area where the animals were brought at night. And they were like pets. You know, they may have a couple goats, couple sheep, and there was a manger there. But because there was a couple of stairs up, they would sometimes come up in the living area because, you know, how cute are they? They're little, you know, little lambs, like pets. And so there was a manger also in the living area. While some of the more wealthy people had a katalima, a guest room. It had a separate entrance and it made their house bigger. What apparently happened is that Mary and Joseph arrived in Bethlehem and they went to the home of a relative and knocked on the door and said, hey, we're here for the census. And they oh, that's great. But you know what? We got a lot of people here for the census. There's no room for you in the guest room. The katalima but you can give birth in the living area. And yes, there is a manger there. And yes, some of the animals may have come up the stairs because of the commotion and what was going on. And yes, the baby was probably put there in a manger. Now, in the year 1395, John Wycliffe, who did a translation into English or the Greek Bible, right, translated it as a guest room. The new international version, which is probably the most popular translation in America today, doesn't use the word in. It uses guest room. Now, Luke, in writing this account, he knew what word to use, katalima. He uses it one other time, and in that other instance, it was also a room in a house. There's another word he uses, pandoheon, which is a Greek word that means an inn. And he does use that word when he talks about the parable of the Good Samaritan. So he knew if he wanted to use the word in, he would have used pandoheon, but he didn't. He used katalima. And the conviction of most scholars is it just means a guest room. There probably was no inn, by the way. Yeah, I know, it's kind of mind blowing, isn't it? After all we've heard. The other thing is, in first century Jewish culture, the value of hospitality was so high that it would have been impossible for an innkeeper to turn away a pregnant Jewish woman. I mean, he would have been ostracized from the tree. He would have run out of town on a rail. It would have destroyed his business. You could not do that because the value of hospitality was so high. And we don't even know there were any inns in Bethlehem. It was a small town, 550 people. It wasn't on a main crossroads. There may or may not have even been an in there in the first place. So. But I think, you know, the majority of scholars, I think, would agree that the word really means guest room and not an inn.

[Glenn Beck]

That changes everything. That changes your whole vision of that. You know what I mean? That's.

[Caller/Listener]

It does.

[Glenn Beck]

Mind blowing.

[Caller/Listener]

I know.

[Glenn Beck]

It just totally.

[Caller/Listener]

It is not only that. The image we have is that Mary is on the verge of giving birth as she's arriving and it makes it urgent. That's not in the text either. It just says that while they were in Bethlehem, she gave birth. Doesn't say they're in Bethlehem five minutes or five days or five months. Where the idea of the urgency comes from is a book of fiction that was written in 200 AD. A lot afterwards, no Real historical connection. And in that fictional account, Mary and Joseph are approaching Bethlehem. They get three miles away from Bethlehem and she had to give birth. And so they went into a cave and she gave birth among some animals in a cave. That's where the idea of a cave comes up. Because while people envision her giving birth in a cave, that's from a book of fiction that doesn't have historical reality written, you know, way, way, way later.

[Glenn Beck]

I have so many questions, Lee, can I have you back next week? I have so many questions on this. I'd love to, love to have you back next week on this because I want to talk to you about the Old Testament prophecies because people will say, well, they just wrote that in later because they knew he was a fulfillment. So they look and they just jammed this story together. But you have the answers to all of that. So I'd love to have you back next week.

[Caller/Listener]

Absolutely. Just let me know.

[Glenn Beck]

You got it, Lee. Thank you so much. God bless you. Merry Christmas. We'll talk to you next week. You bet. It's a fascinating book. You got to read it. The Case for Christmas. It. Well, I mean, just did. It'll turn everything upside down. And I love those kinds of things that make you think and look at things in a new and different way. Lee Strobel is, I think he's one of the best. He's the author of the Case for Christ. But. But his new book is the Case for Christmas. How you can know for sure what was laying in that manger? And where was that manger? Was it in the kitchen? Apparently? I don't know. More in just a second. This is Glenn Beck. We spend so much of our time trying to get our lives organized, constantly referring to our calendars, our to do lists, our planners. But one of the easiest places to reset your entire day is the room where you ended in. When your bed feels just super, super luxurious. When your sheets and blankets have that smooth, cool touch, it changes the way you wind down and the way you wake up. That's what cozy earth does. They turn your bedroom into a place that actually restores you. Their products have this incredible feel. Soft and clean, temperature regulating, they help make your sleep environment feel more calm and more intentional. Even one night with their sheets or loungewear makes you realize how much of your day is affected by how well you rest during this season. That demands our energy and attention from every single angle. Having a bed that helps you reset is a gift you feel every single morning. Give the gift of everyday luxury. This holiday season. Head to cozyearth.com use the promo code BECK. You'll get 40% off. Up to 40% off. And make sure you order today. It's the 12th. Today is the last day. Guaranteed Christmas delivery. Do it today. Cozyearth.com promo code BECK. That's cozyearth.com. use the promo code Beck. Don't forget today for guaranteed Christmas delivery.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

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[Glenn Beck]

I have to tell you, the least trouble I love having on. I had Dominic crossing on one year. This is early on in the show, and he's a Catholic theologian, and. And, you know, he's a controversial Catholic theologian. But I asked him, I said, listen, can I have you on talk about the crucifixion, Resurrection? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's. It's Good Friday. Good Friday. And we go for 45 minutes. And I said, now tell me. Build the case for the resurrection. Tell me. After they take him down, they bring him to the tomb. And he's like. And he just said, oh, well, he didn't rise from the dead. And I was like, we're live on the air. Okay, Good Friday. 45 minutes into this, he tells me he didn't rise from the dead. And I went, wait, what? No, he didn't rise from the dead. And he goes into Greek mythology and everything else. And I went, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're a Catholic theologian. You're Christian. How do you not believe? And he's like, well, you know, but just don't believe. It's because it didn't happen. It was the worst ending of a show I think I've ever done, with the possible exception. I was having dinner with somebody the other night, and they said, glenn, I have listened to you since you made out with your sister. And I said, oh, my gosh, you heard that show? And it was one of the first shows I did on national radio. And I was making the point. I didn't say this in advance, but I was making the point that if you normalize gay marriage, I could normalize pedophilia. I could normalize anything. All you need is a good storyteller. And I've been saying that for days on the Friday I get on, and I said, listen, I got to tell you why I'm so passionate about this. And I tell this story about how when I was young, my sister and I went to the fair and I bought. Painted this whole Picture. And we were up on the Ferris wheel. It was just magic. And our eyes caught and we started to kiss each other. And I've been in love with my sister forever. And we've never talked about it, we never acted on it, but don't condemn me for the. We started taking phone calls and I was turning people to my point of view. Okay. Compassion. Why do you hate? Why do you hate? Why do you hate? Why can't you recognize that my love is different than your love? And I was turning people. And I said more in a minute. And I'm about to say, I did it in 30 minutes. You don't think society can do that? Okay, but we go to the break and it's right after 9 11, and George Bush has breaking news and he does a press conference and it takes him 25 minutes. I have no time. All of our stations break away for that press conference and Premier calls me the next. That, that day, right after I get off the air and went, what? What are you thinking? What, what did you just do? And I said, that's not what I meant. I was. That wasn't the story. It was a point. They're like, we don't know if you're gonna have any stations left tomorrow because they all want to cancel. And I'm like, oh, that was probably the worst.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

Yeah, because you got preempted and no one could hear your rap. There's no wrap up. It did eventually come.

[Glenn Beck]

And for those people who lived through it, like every five minutes I was like, no, no, listen, listen, that wasn't what I meant so bad.

[Stu (Chief Researcher)]

It's been a roller coaster ride.

[Glenn Beck]

I know. Let me go to Eric in Pennsylvania. Hello, Erica, how are you?

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, Mr. Beck. I heard your monologue on the pledge of Allegiance a couple of weeks or months ago and I heard your frustration in it. And you were basically saying that the two for government. As a Christian, I'm thinking that, you know, about when Adam and Eve sinned, they basically rejected God and his rule over them. Right?

[Glenn Beck]

Yes. I missed a sentence. You cut out. Yeah, you cut out. I missed a sentence. So what is your. What, what did I say in the pledge that you took issue with?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, you were basically saying that you can't pledge allegiance to two countries or flags. So.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, yes.

[Caller/Listener]

So at that, at that time, man was created to be ruled by God and not themselves. And that's why we see so much misery and suffering and, and death and crime and it's, you know, cruelty. So God has allowed man to rule over him. Over themselves for 2000 years without success. So in our hearts, we have to make sure that. That we are always going to believe that God is going to rule over us and everything will be all right. So then maybe you won't be so frustrated. You know, you just have to have that faith.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, I do have that. I do have that faith, Erica. Thank you for your point here. But I do have that faith. I believe that. And that was kind of my point, that, you know, I will never do anything for my second citizenship, which. My second citizenship is a citizen of the United States of America.

[Caller/Listener]

America.

[Glenn Beck]

America first, you bastard. My first citizenship is in the kingdom of God, and I will not violate my first citizenship for my second citizenship. I do have that faith. I know that things get tough and awful and I'm very frustrated at times, but I absolutely know God is involved. He is not neutral in the affairs of man. We may not like the way he's dealing with things. We may be like, really, do we have to go through all this? But. But I trust that he's got it all under control. Let me go to Dan. Hello, Dan. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, good morning. Listening to you talk about the AI centers and all that and the power and usage and all that stuff, that's, you know, that's all well and good. We need it. We need the power. I'm all for it. I'm all for nuclear power, but what do we do about water that they're going to need for cooling and not, not the power, not the reactors themselves. But, but these servers suck up a crazy amount of water. Where's that going to come from?

[Glenn Beck]

I know it's going to come from people if we're not careful. That's what's going to happen. The power and the water are going to be diverted to these servers because they'll say they run our entire country and our lives, and without them we won't exist. And that's what I was warning about. First on power. Second, you're absolutely right. On water. There are some things I think it was Microsoft just used. I believe. I believe it was their new quantum computer to come up with a new substance that's not water that they can fully submerge these, these servers in, and they work and you don't need water. And they keep them all cool. The other option, another option, very expensive option, but another option is eventually put all of these servers up in geosynchronous orbit because you have absolute zero in space. And that would keep them cool, obviously, but we're going to have a problem. Nobody, nobody is really dealing with the real issues, and that is power and water. You're exactly right, Steve. South Carolina. Hello, Steve.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi. Real quick on George AI. I think the, the reason that you naturally said him is because it's a male voice. If you were talking to like, Indira Gandhi or something like that, you would actually say her. But, you know, that's, that's my cook. The thing I wanted to talk about was you talked about the Civil War and the, the seven steps towards it and all that type of stuff. And yes, my thought on that, my thought on that was I don't think that our country, I think everybody's too lazy. You know, I don't think they have. I don't know. And I don't know who would lead. Like, who would America really fight for? You know, I mean, people love Donald Trump and everything, but I don't see them, I don't see the cause to fight for the person that would inspire people enough to do that. And I wonder what you thought about that. I mean, I don't disagree with your, your thoughts on that, but I just don't know how, what form it would take.

[Glenn Beck]

So I agree. I think it's ironic, Steve, that you're calling from South Carolina. Probably not the call that I should have taken about a civil war, but the. I think when you said who would we fight for, who would lead? I don't think that a civil war will come because of a person. I think it will be a person would appear. And I'm not wishing for this. I think this is the worst possible thing that could happen. But, but when you have no electricity, you can't afford food, you have water shortages, all the things just what we're talking about today, just, you know, just take those things if those things came to be. Oh, and you also had constant surveillance under AI and people were split on this and going, I don't want that in my life. You're. Someone will appear and the, the fracture will happen. It won't be good. I mean, you know, you want to see the effects of civil war. Rwanda, nothing good comes from civil wars. Ours did, but it again, like the American Revolution. I think that's the only one that ever has. Mark, welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes. Hi, can you hear me?

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, I can.

[Caller/Listener]

A Glenn, I just want to say how much I love you.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

With you from the very beginning. And I sat out in the rain with you in Utah. Here in man of the Moon, I witnessed double radio and it was an incredible experience. I think I have a lot in common with you. We're about a month apart in age. Me, because of my health. I. I don't know how much time I have left. And that's the reason I'm calling, really. I have been accused by my family. I'm kind of living in a bubble because I listen to you and I listen to other people like you. I have about four or five people I listen to that have podcasts and my family is very staunch left wing. We've always been left wing. I'm kind of the oddball and I need to know if I live in a bubble or not.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, do you only listen to those things, Mark? You only listen to those podcasts?

[Caller/Listener]

I do sometimes catch the news. I'll catch okay news once in a while. I listen to you and a few other people that are more independent, actually.

[Glenn Beck]

So let me tell you this, Mark. The best way to dismantle this argument with your family is say, who should I listen to? Who do you recommend? Who do you think is telling the truth? And let me listen to them. But then will you talk with me reasonably about them and about what I learned? Because I don't want to live in a bubble. I don't. Honestly, I don't want a lot of this stuff to be right. I listen to the New York Times, read the New York Times, Washington Post, you know, you've got to read that. I do it. I don't know if I would do it if I were the average person, because I got better things to do than, you know. But you want to make sure you understand the other side. You want to understand them. And so if you want to make an impact with your family, I would suggest to you that you ask them, who do you listen to? Who do you recommend? And would you make an exchange with me? If I listen to them and I'll talk to you about them, will you listen to Glenn Beck and let's talk about that. And we both have to have an open mind about it. Will you do that? Because you live in a world where you don't listen to any of these things.

[Caller/Listener]

Things.

[Glenn Beck]

Why am I the only one living in the bubble? But it requires you to. Do you know both sides? Let me go to Rick in Ohio. Hello, Rick.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey, Glenn and Stu. What a pleasure.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Love you guys. Thank you. What I want to talk about is nobody brings up you, anybody else, Fox, Speaker Johnson, President Obamacare, and how this one size fits all and how you can't join together and form A group like say if Amass wanted to offer what I. And you talk to the president, what I thought was great the other day when he brought the firefighter up and in the Poconos and worked 400 hours of overtime and the waitress. Just think if he brought a union member because big union state that had his group plan and then brought somebody else up who's on Obamacare and the price difference. I mean, I was on it before I went on Social Security and it went from 300 to 900 for a single guy in no time. And you're paying for, you know, young kids, say 26. He doesn't want.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

Some of that stuff and do a. I never hear anybody bring it up. Not that they can go into the. All the details.

[Glenn Beck]

I will tell you, Rick, that I'm tired of depending on these politicians because I don't think they're going to ever come up. They've already made up their mind that it is either some sort of hybrid or socialized medicine. And those are not the answers. It's not the answer. I don't know why we're not talking. Where is the person with big ideas on healthcare that will completely change it? It says, look, we've been looking at this all wrong and here's how it should work. Where is that person? Where is that movement? Those people might be out there, but they're not making an impact because you can't get a single politician to actually buy into it because they bought into all the experts and all of the crap and, and quite honestly, most of them want this kind of insurance and they just think it's, you know, hasn't been done the right way. Well, Canada did it apparently the right way for a long time. And look what's happening now. It always ends in shortages. And then, then the whole thing goes to hell. Thank you so much for your phone call. Final thoughts on the program here in just a second. First, let me tell you about good ranchers. When you're feeding your family, they're. There's a certain peace of mind that comes from knowing exactly what is on the table, not guessing, not hoping that the label means what you think it means. Just real clear confidence in the quality of your food and your meat. That's why people are moving to good ranchers. Every cut they ship is 100% American meat sourced from farms and ranches that still take pride in the things that they do and the way they do it the right way. No imported blends. That's a scary word to use when you're talking about meat blends of meat. No surprises hiding behind the packaging, just honest, consistent quality delivered straight to your door. You'll taste the difference every time that you cook. So here's what I want you to do. I want you to go to goodranchers.com goodranchers.com visit them, start gifting right away. And while you're there, treat yourself. Subscribe and use my code Beck, and you'll get $40 off your first order and free meat for life. Again, it's goodranchers.com $40 off plus free meat for life with the promo code BECK. Goodranchers.com let's get back to the table. Here's a friendly tip. Always drink upstream of the herd. If you know, you know. GLENN Beck, What a week it has been. I can't thank you enough for all of the thoughts and prayers. And please pray for Jolene and Miles, who are the couple up in Canada. She's in the hospital with pneumonia. And we just, she's got to get healthy. And then we're exploring all the options. But money is taken care of. The doctors are on it here in America. We can get her here. It just, we just need to know the right thing to do and, but everything is taken care of and mostly because of you, the audience, just telling everybody, you know, thank you for that Christmas miracle next week, the last week of shows for 2025, and the the last ever Glenn Beck TV program next week. You don't want to miss it. We've got a lot of great stuff planned for you all next week. Thank you so much for listening. And may God save the Republic. This is Glenn, Becky.