Is Trump Preparing Marco Rubio for Something BIG?! | Guests: Kevin O'Leary & Thomas Pigott | 7/14/26

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Episode: Is Trump Preparing Marco Rubio for Something BIG?! | Guests: Kevin O'Leary & Thomas Pigott | 7/14/26
Date: July 14, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode of The Glenn Beck Program delves into two major topics:

1. The implications of large-scale data centers and AI infrastructure in America—especially relating to national security, water, power, and local communities—with investor Kevin O’Leary.
2. An in-depth discussion about Marco Rubio’s rapid rise and increasing influence within the Trump administration, and whether Rubio is being positioned as Trump’s successor.
   Additional segments examine changes at the State Department, the encroachment of communism within American socialist organizations, and insight into American progressive history.

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1. Data Centers, AI, and National Security

Guest: Kevin O’Leary (Chairman, O’Leary Ventures; Shark Tank Investor)
Timestamps: 07:29–36:24

Key Discussion Points

The Necessity and Risks of Data Centers

• Glenn Beck: Stresses that the US must dominate in AI and data infrastructure; China is rapidly increasing its power grid and data center capacity using coal, while US expansion is slow.
  Quote: “If we don't build data centers, China will own us in every way possible... AI, the United States must be the victor.” (05:00)

Community Concerns: Power, Jobs & Water

• Power: O’Leary details how US data centers must now build their own power facilities, often combining gas turbines, solar, and battery storage, so as not to add stress or costs to local grids.
  Quote: "The new rule... you have to bring your own power [for a data center], spend billions to build power and give some of it back to the grid..." (09:15–10:16)

• Jobs: Contradicts the idea that data centers don’t create jobs—explains 4,000 construction jobs and 2,000 permanent jobs are projected for the Utah facility alone, with broader community impact (schools, hotels, local services).
  Quote: “Not so fast on the jobs... 4,000 construction jobs just for the first phase, 2,000 permanent jobs... That's a lot of jobs.” (11:09)

• Water: Newer data centers require much less water compared to those 15 years ago; O’Leary promises full transparency via public water permit filings.
  Quote: “This data center’s first phase...is going to be no different than a golf course in Utah.” (13:50)

The Debate Over Power Sources

• Nuclear Power: O’Leary notes small modular reactors are still over a decade away due to cost and regulatory delays; meanwhile, practical options are natural gas, solar, and batteries.
  Quote: “If you looked at Nuke right now, you'd be talking maybe a buck a kilowatt hour.” (19:30–20:28)

Why Data Centers Are Built in Rural/Farming Areas

• Scale Requirements: Modern AI/data centers require much larger plots (five times the size from a few years ago), which are more feasible in rural areas than urban centers.
  Quote: “In the last two years... a large data center used to be 250 megawatts. Today, the minimum... is 1.4 gigawatts.” (21:23–22:15)

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The First AI War

Timestamps: 25:54–32:04

O’Leary on Modern Warfare and AI:

• Argues the “AI war” is unfolding now in the Middle East, where precision ordinance, drone warfare, and predictive intelligence all depend on domestic AI computing power. Quote: “Every time we build a data center... we should provide at least 20% of its capacity to our government for the war of the future...” (25:54)
• Critical reasoning: If the US falls behind in AI infrastructure, adversary regimes like China or Iran could dominate militarily and technologically.

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Public Distrust of "Tech Bros" and Big Tech

Timestamps: 32:04–36:24

Concerns Raised by Beck and Audience:

• Local communities worry about bearing the costs (power, water, farmland lost) while Big Tech profits and ordinary people feel expendable.
• Loss of agency and free will in the face of data exploitation and job displacement.
  Quote (Beck): “We’re not a stinking market. We’re people. We’re individual people, we’re communities... it feels like you just get railroaded by the tech bros. That...is where the real frustration is happening.” (32:04)

O’Leary’s Response:

• acknowledges the anxiety and draws a parallel to past technological upheavals (like the Internet), but also points to significant benefits in medicine, education, and economic opportunity.
  Quote: “You’ve got the camp that says AI is going to take all our jobs away and then the robots are going to eat the babies... But then there's the other camp...think about the advances in medicine.” (33:28)

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2. The Trump "Apprentice" and Marco Rubio’s Next Move

Timestamps: 66:25–83:14

Key Discussion Points

Glen Beck’s Analysis: Is Rubio Trump’s Chosen Successor?

• Rubio’s unprecedented number of senior roles in the Trump administration: Secretary of State, USAID, National Security Advisor, Archivist—often holding multiple at once.
  • Quote: "For a stretch there he held all four jobs at the same time. One man, four hats." (67:38)
• Beck posits that Trump is “schooling” Rubio the way he did his own children: making him learn every job as a test, echoing Trump’s “The Apprentice” ethos.
  • Quote: “You have to know every single job. ...If you don't know what everybody does, people are going to be able to BS you...I think that's what happened to Donald Trump in the first term. ... He knows it now.” (68:41–69:10)
• Beck draws a historical parallel to James Monroe, who also held multiple cabinet posts during national crisis, and then became president.

Beck's Big Question:

• Is Rubio being groomed, whether consciously or not, to take over as Trump’s successor for a “Trumpian” 12-year sweep?
  Quote: “You can't fake what that does to a guy. You either come out of it as Monroe or you don't come out at all. But nobody hands you this country. Not a caucus, not a party, not a president. And that's not a flaw in the plan. That is the plan.” (71:44)

Insider Reaction:

• Many agree Rubio has “hardened” through experience and is now more “Trumpian” and less a “McCain disciple.” (82:04–83:21)
  • Quote (Beck): “He seemed kind of squishy. That guy's not squishy anymore. Not at all.” (70:23)

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3. State Department Changes — Interview with Tommy Pigott

Timestamps: 47:24–59:03

Key Discussion Points

Countering Antifa and International Terror Networks

• State Department is aggressively seeking international cooperation to counter transnational Antifa and terrorist activity; new policy to designate and dismantle groups providing material support, especially where groups self-identify as Antifa.

Cleaning House: USAID & Censorship

• USAID now brought under State’s oversight; efforts to eliminate dark money, NGO-industrial complex, and foreign policy programs opposing US interests.
• Strong statements against censorship, both foreign and domestic.
  • Quote: “[Undersecretary Sarah Rogers] made a point to call out censorship...censorship is now a tool that's completely off the table.” (52:17)

ICC and Sovereignty

• Outlining efforts to diplomatically isolate and distance the US from the International Criminal Court, seen as a threat to US sovereignty and service members.

Venezuela, Iran, and a New World Order

• Describes active US involvement and control over Venezuela’s transition, and a re-centering of American geopolitical strategy on the Western Hemisphere.

4. Communism Within American Socialism — A (Not So) Subtle Takeover

Timestamps: 84:21–102:03

Key Discussion Points

DSA, Communism, and the History of Exclusion Rules

• Glenn Beck walks through the history of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), noting that the organization has repealed its anti-communist “exclusion clause”—a historic guardrail that kept hardline communists out of mainstream socialist movements.

• Comparison to historical left-wing in-fighting from SDS (Students for a Democratic Society), the Weathermen, and lessons from European socialist parties.

• Warns that today, over 51% of DSA’s governing board are self-declared communists.

  • Quote: “51.9% are actual self-avowed communists... They published this as a scoreboard [of success]!” (87:00)

• DSA board recently adopted proposals to abolish the Supreme Court and presidency—radical, anti-constitutional ideas passed by narrow margins.

  • Quote: “The presidency and the Supreme Court should be abolished and replaced with bodies chosen by Congress... This is a proposal to end the Republic.” (96:55)

• Beck’s central warning: Communism’s tactics are patient, subtle, and always use organizational structure to gain power incrementally.

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5. Revisiting Progressivism & The Truth About Theodore Roosevelt

Timestamps: 110:34–120:55

Key Discussion Points

• Glenn Beck addresses criticism that the new Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library embraces a "woke" perspective; counters that the museum’s portrayal is simply accurate—Roosevelt, for all his achievements, was a foundational progressive, a believer in scientific expertise, and, troublingly, a proponent of eugenics and collective-driven government.

  • Quote: “The museum didn’t go woke... That’s who Teddy Roosevelt was.” (110:34)

• Draws a straight line from Roosevelt-era progressivism through to today’s progressive and socialist trends: belief in expert-driven government, collective over individual, and in some cases, dangerous policies (e.g., sterilization supported by Supreme Court decisions).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Glenn Beck (on data centers and China):
  “If we don't build data centers, China will own us in every way possible... AI, the United States must be the victor.” (05:00)

• Kevin O’Leary (on jobs):
  “Not so fast on the jobs... 4,000 construction jobs just for the first phase, 2,000 permanent jobs... That's a lot of jobs.” (11:09)

• Beck (on public frustration):
  “We’re not a stinking market. We’re people. ...It feels like you just get railroaded by the tech bros.” (32:04)

• Beck (on Rubio):
  “You can't fake what that does to a guy. You either come out of it as Monroe or you don't come out at all. ...That is the plan.” (71:44)

• Beck (on the danger of unchecked progressivism):
  "The engine has never once changed. ...You’re a category, you’re a type, you’re stock, you’re a unit, you’re a number. And you can be improved or eliminated by the people with better degrees than you." (120:55)

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Important Timestamps

• Data center/AI discussion: 07:29–36:24
• AI war concept: 25:54–32:04
• Public/tech tensions: 32:04–36:24
• State Dept. interview: 47:24–59:03
• Rubio/Trump succession theory: 66:25–83:14
• Modern socialism & DSA: 84:21–102:03
• Theodore Roosevelt/progressivism: 110:34–120:55

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Tone & Language

• Glenn Beck: Irreverent, candid, populist—alternating between grave warnings, witty asides, and impassioned appeals for historical memory and civic engagement.
• Kevin O’Leary: Businesslike, direct, occasionally defensive but eager to clarify specifics and push back on anti-development myths.

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Summary Takeaways

• The US must invest in AI and data infrastructure, balancing national security with the rights and identities of local communities.
• Public skepticism of Big Tech and government motives persists; transparency, engagement, and real local benefits are mandatory.
• Modern progressivism in the US carries both a productive and a dangerous legacy—its organizational structure is susceptible to radical takeover.
• Marco Rubio may be positioned (intentionally or not) as Trump’s protégé, learning all the levers of power, echoing American history (à la Monroe).
• The line between socialism, progressivism, and communism is not just academic—recent history demonstrates how organizational barriers to extremism can fall quickly.

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Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

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Glam Back is on. Glam Back is on. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Well, hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program from Los Angeles, California. Oh, yeah, I know it's been a week. Feels like it's been a week. It's only been two days. I've been in California and it feels like a week. Welcome to the broadcast. We're glad you're here. Anybody who has been concerned about the data centers, today is your day. We have Kevin o' Leary from Shark Tank. He's a Shark Tank investor. O' Leary Ventures Chairman, he has been trying to get a data center built in Utah in Box Elder County, Utah, which is in the middle of nowhere. And he was surprised that it did. Not a lot of people weren't for it. A lot of people weren't for it. Yeah, well, there's some reasons for that. There's a lot of questions that need to be answered. We thought we'd have Kevin on to talk about AI, the data centers and what they really mean for water and power and everything else. What is the plan for these data centers? We talked to him coming up in just a little while. And so much more. Stand by. First, let me tell you about our sponsor. Our sponsor this half hour is the burner launcher. It happens in the blink of an eye. One minute you're having a 20 minute chat with your good friend Mitch McConnell who's in the hospital, but he's totally fine, totally fine. He's sharp as attack. And the next minute you're getting mugged in the hospital parking lot. It happens. Both of those things happen. Pretty rotten luck, quite honestly, if you ask me. But fortunately you're prepared because right before you left, Mitch said, hey, by the way, you're going to parking lot. It's kind of a shady area. I didn't get to pick the hospital. They just threw me in the back of a truck. So you know what, why don't you take my burner launcher? 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And then we'll get a si. And that is terrifying, quite honestly, to me. A lot of times when I first started talking about it, people said, no, no, no, AGI is not even possible. And I think we're on the verge of AGI. So I have been warning about AI, but I also believe that AI is one of the greatest tools man has ever created. But we must always remember it is a tool. Now, to be able to have the compute power for these systems, we have to have data centers all over, which means we have to have power. And we also have to be willing to build the data centers. Not going to pay for them. The companies that are all going to put us out of business and we'll all be. Will all be slaves to them eventually. They have to pay for it. Now, as these data centers are being built, there's a lot of people that say, I don't want that in my community for several reasons. I personally believe they have to be built. Where they're built is a different story. What I don't like is the fact that in some places it feels almost as if these big tech companies are coming in and they're just making a deal with the city council and you're not involved. This is your life. If we don't build data centers, China will own us in every way possible. And I mean personally will own you personally. AI. The United States must be the victor in this. We must have the data centers. However, there's really good questions that have to be asked because this is your life. And I do not want big tech making the decision anymore. We already saw what big tech did when they came out. You know, with the greatest tool ever. Everybody's going to be able to talk to each other. We'll be able to check on our families. It's called social media, and we saw how that worked out. We have to have a reasonable conversation about AI and the data centers. And I thought the person to do that would be Kevin o', Leary, who is here. Hi, Kevin. How are you?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Great to be here. Thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you. Did I set this up properly in your book? Where do you disagree with me on these things?

[Kevin O'Leary]

I don't disagree with anything you said, Glenn. That's actually a very good platform that you set up for us to have a intelligent narrative about this debate, particularly on that of defense and the future of the individual. Because I am in the same boat you're in. I think we're in a very, very difficult situation with our adversaries in China. I've been dealing in China since they Came into the World Trade organization back in 2000. They haven't played by the rules in case anybody before we were worried about AI. And so I have no problem with the Chinese people. I have a huge problem with the Chinese government and their policy. So just to set the stage on that one vertical topic, which I think is a good one to start with, you said it and you were right. Data centers aren't really about data centers, they're about power. You can't have any computer, you can't have your cell phone working, the cell tower working, the economy working if you don't have power. So in the last 18 months, the Chinese using primarily coal burning turbines because they don't care about the environment or do they need a permit? The big guy says put one here. And that's how it happens. They've built 400 gigawatts of new power for China, its economy and its efforts to dominate AI. How many have we built? That's new in America? Zero. Now I'm just talking about power. So we've got to get our poo poo together and start thinking about adding to the grid here so that we can compete as an economy, not just on AI. We need power. We're tapped out everywhere. And so one of the things you see is a negative in places like West Virginia, Virginia, Mississippi, Tennessee, Utah, you name it, as people saying, well, my power bill is going to go up if you put a data center here. Well, the new rule of engagement should be this as part of the national solution is if I'm going to bring a data center anywhere, I got to bring my own power, I got to spend billions to build power and then give some of it back to the grid so we can stay competitive. We need the data centers, we need the power, we need them both. And so there is a solution here and that's how we're going to do it in Utah. But Utah is not my only project. I've got projects in Norway and Finland and Canada. But Utah is particularly important for America because of what it means for national defense. You nailed it.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so Kevin, because this is, I've been talking about this one in Utah and I understand the people of Utah and I understand what they're worried about. And, and quite honestly, I am too. But I, you know, I said there is a solution to these things and you just gave part of that solution and that is you have to build your own power. And I said, you know, negotiate with these companies and say, look, you want the data center, great. You bring in your Own power. But we also want X percentage of power put in here. And we don't want to be charged for any infrastructure that is, revolves around anything to do with this data center. You're, you have to bring this asset to the community. You have to say this, we're going to help the community because you're not going to really be creating jobs long term. So what are you going to create?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Hold on, hold on, Bubba Louie, not so fast on the jobs. Not so fast on the jobs. Let me give you the numbers. 4,000 construction jobs just for the first phase. 2,000 permanent jobs to maintain it. And those are engineering and support jobs. Very high paying. Not true about the jobs. That's a lot of jobs. That's a lot of jobs. Including all of the additional stuff we have to do for the community which no one's been talking about. New fire trucks. We got to provide hotels to put these construction workers in for two years. We got to have permanent, you know, support for schooling. There's so much stuff we're going to give back to the community just to make sure our data center we have, we have to import, we have to find these people to employ them. They thank goodness Utah is highly educated workforce. Northrop Grumman is just a few miles away. The Hill Air Force Base. I got jobs, my friend. I got a lot of jobs, A lot of jobs. And I need the people there to want to work. So I've got, I've got my work cut out for me.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so the other thing, power jobs. You just answered both of those. The second thing is. Or the third thing is water. Is it true it needs water or not needs water because you're building it in Utah is the high desert. So what's the truth on water?

[Kevin O'Leary]

That is probably the topic for Utah given the situation in the Great Salt Lake that is slowly going down. And people have a huge concern about that. So let me tell you the facts. The new modern era data center does not require anywhere near the water that was used 15 years ago in Virginia, where data centers got a bad name because of how much water they consumed. And there's two reasons for that. The power generation itself, for the electricity to drive the chips. There's many solutions now that are air cooled so they don't require anywhere near as much water. And the actual cooling of the chip itself is now done like a car radiator. It's a closed loop system which was not available back 20 years ago. So those are two massive reductions. But people ask me, well, put it in context Is it true that this is going to use all the water in Utah and the whole lake is going to be drained? That's a complete falsehood. This data center's first phase, about 1.4 gigs, is going to be no different than a golf course in Utah. So that you should look at it in terms of how many golf courses in Utah are using water. Because data centers, not just my project, any new data center now is like a golf course. So, you know, my attitude is, look, let's get realistic about the facts. And the way you learn that, I don't want people to trust me, I want them to look at the water permit application I'm going to put in in late August that is forced to show exactly the engineering requirements exactly to the gallon that we have to get to make this work. The permitting process is not being circumvented anywhere, including Box Elder County. You got to get epa, you got to get states, you got to get water, you got to get noise, you got to get light. All of that has to be permitted. So there's total control there to see this on a public basis. And what I've done, given all the brouhaha that occurred in box elder since May 5th, is I called up all of the TV networks there, and they all have representation, all the journalists, and said, here's my personal cell number. You text me when you have a question. Don't let anybody put words in my mouth for me. You call me and I'll talk to you and give you the facts. And I promised all of them they will get the same information the second I apply for the permit on water, which comes first. That's a. Glenn, that's the biggest topic in Utah's water.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kevin O'Leary]

We got to get this right. And so that's why I'm encouraged that at least you and I are having this narrative. And I'm trying to put it straight, but I have a lot of work ahead of me.

[Glenn Beck]

So, Kevin, how do you generate. What kind of power generation are you using? Because, I mean, doesn't it always come back down to, you got to make steam, that steam push pushes, then a turbine, and then you can generate. I mean, no matter what it is, it usually uses steam. What are you going to use to make power?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Well, think about this. Think about. You're one of the tenants, which I have to negotiate with, the hyperscalers, the SpaceX, the Microsoft, the Google, whoever it is. Let's just take Box Elder county, because we're talking about Utah. Every single person I'm Going to guess. In Box Elder county, everyone has a cell phone. So they talk to their kids. That's how they run their businesses. They're already using a data center. They're already customers of all the aforementioned hyperscalers. If you're an Amazon or you're a Microsoft or you're Google, the last thing you want to do in Box Elder county is piss off your customer. They're not stupid. So what they're telling us that the people that are risking the $16 billion, half in debt, half in equity, that's what's going to cost me to build. The first phase is you show us your proposals for power and we'll tell you what we want. And most of them now are looking for combination of nat gas, natural gas, air cooled turbines, solar and sodium lithium battery combinations so that you can build out if you have enough land, solar panels that drive grabbing energy during the day. And Utah's pretty good semi desert. You're filling up those sodium lithium batteries and then you're fueling the nighttime activity in the data center. So a combination of all of the above. The Ruby pipeline there is at about 17% capacity. So we can use some of that. We have to spend billions to get all that set up. But then the turbines themselves can be air cooled or combination of water. Air cooled. Put that part of the water permit. And then of course, we need toilets and kitchens and all that stuff. People need water, so we're going to use water there. But at the end of the day, I'm pretty sure I'm going to be known different than in phase one. He's going to be a golf course. No different.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. All right, hold on just a second. We have Kevin on with us. And by the way, if you were a, an insider, you knew he was coming on yesterday. And we're going to get to some of your questions here in just a few minutes. Kevin o' Leary joins us on the Glenn Beck program. We continue in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about our sponsor. It's Rapid Radios. You're at the county fair with your whole family. Your daughter decides she wants to see the animals and your son says, I got to go to the tractor pole. Somebody else wants a corn dog. That would be me. Okay? Suddenly you're not all together anymore. And you got to be together, you got to stay in touch. This one of the reasons why I like Rapid radios. Rapid Radios, we use them when we were on vacation in Washington D.C. for the 4th of July and we needed. You don't have to keep Calling every five minutes to figure out who's where. You don't have to dig through the contact list, wait for the text or hope somebody hears the phone ringing. Just press a button, talk and everybody knows the plan. Easy to use, they're small, they have long lasting battery life, they're weather resistant, they're perfect for days when your group is all headed in different directions. It's really good for construction and everything else. Limited time. Go to rapidradios.com bundle rapidradios.com bundle get their exclusive buy more, save more event. Buy two walkie talkies, get one completely free. Need more for your crew? Buy six and get three bonus radios free. Every order includes 365 days of service, free shipping and a 30 day money back guarantee. Equip your crew today. Go to rapidradios.com bundle rapidradios.com bundle 10 seconds. And back to the program. Kevin, why not nuclear energy? The President said he would take up, you know, he would take off, you know, the restrictions on nuclear energy. Is it not ready for prime time yet? The new smaller nukes, it's about 11

[Kevin O'Leary]

to 15 years away, the small nukes. The economics of data centers worldwide are the cost of power per kilowatt hour. So let me just give you some metrics. The cheapest power on Earth is $0.01 a kilowatt hour in Saudi Arabia. But obviously given the instability of the region right now no one's going to put a $15 billion investment there. Then you get the Nordic countries, Finland, Norway, where we do have facilities at 4 and 3.9 cents a kilowatt hour. The cheapest in North America is in Canada in the province of Alberta where we're sort of at a 4.2, give or take a little bit cents a kilowatt hour USD. And then most of the data centers in Texas and Utah, maybe 4 to 6 cents. Now if you looked at Nuke right now, you'd be talking maybe a buck a kilowatt hour.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh wow.

[Kevin O'Leary]

So you know, we're just not ready. But I applaud the administration's move towards this. We gave up our nuclear program years ago for the wrong reasons and so did Germany and look what the situation they're in. Yeah, the French did the same thing. We got to get back in the saddle on Nuke and we will. But the data center itself is agnostic to the power. As long as it's economic. It can switch over to small nukes the minute they're available. And so we would do that as well. This is a long Project Len, for me, I'm going to be working on this thing for over a decade.

[Glenn Beck]

So tell me why. Because I have people say, why are these being built in small little towns and little teeny communities and farming? And I moved to farming communities because I didn't want to be around all this crap. Why are we going into places like Detroit and just taking all of these old empty factories and just retooling them?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Because they're not big enough. What happened was in the last two years, when the race against China started, a large data center used to be 250megawatts. Today, the minimum to stay competitive is 1.4 gigawatts. So almost five times the size. And the reason that is is the chips themselves cost billions of dollars. So you need scale to make it economic. But there's another problem as well, and I think we should address it. You touched on it at the top of the show that I have to point out. This war or this, whatever you want to call it that's going on in the Middle east that you're witnessing, I would argue to you, is the first AI War ever fought. And, and I'll give you some very easy examples.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, hang on just a second. I only have a minute to the, to the break. That is fascinating, and I don't want to interrupt you on that. So. Wow, that is fascinating.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Take the, Take the break and let's talk. I'm going to give you some information I want your listeners to think about.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, we'll do that. And I also want to ask you when we come back to. If you can explain kind of what I said when I said if China gets this, they will own everything, including you. There is, you know, AI the way we are looking at what is coming. You know, you can lose the. I think. I think you can lose the. The. The ability to know whether or not you have free choice or not. It's so dangerous the way it is, and we can't have that fall into the hands of the commune. I don't like it falling in the hands of big tech or US Government, but I know we can't have it fall into the hands of the Chinese. Kevin o' Leary continues with us here in just a minute. Stand by. So what do you do when somebody else is having the worst day of their life? You know, most of us are not going to be, you know, doing anything heroic. You and I are probably never going to run into a burning building or pull somebody out of a flooded river. You know, more often than not, we're just given much, much simpler opportunity to help those who need it. But do we? So I admire the people that are involved with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They are, they are the people. When the world's attention comes and goes, they keep showing up. They provide food to the hungry, shelter to the Jewish families who have lost their homes, care for the elderly, emergency assistance. You know, scripture doesn't tell us to help people when it's convenient or when the cameras are watching. It calls us to love our neighbors in practical ways, even when we don't want to. As America continues celebrating its 250 years of independence, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews turns to God in prayer, asking that his wisdom will be guided, guiding the elected officials and lead America and Israel toward moral clarity and unity. The USA Israel flag pin is available today. Go online and help the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Get your flag pin now@flagpin ifcj.org Torch

[Jason]

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[Glenn Beck]

We are with Kevin o' Leary who is trying to build data centers all around the country. And one of the more controversial ones is in, in the northern corner of, of Utah, Box Elder County. And I wanted to get him on and talk about the data centers. A truth about the data centers. I think he's answered it about water. It's the water is about the use of a golf course. The power they are responsible for generating, all of it. You know, I would like to see the fine print on that because I'm so concerned these electricity, these electrical companies are going to say, yeah, well we had to, you know, upgrade the infrastructure and everything else because of the, and they'll just end up charging you more. But you know, that's, that's something you deal with at the city council level. I think, Kevin, you just said something before we took a break. You said this is this war that we're fighting with Iran is the first AI war. What do you mean by that?

[Kevin O'Leary]

So let me explain how this is working. And I spend a lot of time in Washington D.C. these days for a lot of reasons. You know, I'm an advocate for small business in America. Yes, they have very few voices. We create 52% of all jobs in America. Companies, five to 500 employees. Those are my, that's my army. That's what I call them. So I represent them blue and red. I'm a very fortunate guy because it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, you want to create jobs. That's what I do. So I get to meet everybody. But I also spend time with various government agencies regarding their need for compute capacity. So I'm going to select my words correctly. Okay, but you should make the assumption they're coming from a place of knowledge. Every time we build a data center in America anywhere, we should provide at least, at least 20% of its capacity to our government to provide them what they need to prepare for the war of the future that you're actually witnessing now. And I'll. And let me be very specific. The Chinese know what they're doing. The future of warfare is about highly precision driven ordinance. So missiles that can just hit one person, inexpensive drone technology, predictive analysis of weather in the war theater, all kinds of other elements that require AI. AI compute capacity. That the two chopper pilots that fell into the ocean and the chopper went down, their lives were saved by a craft that had no one in it, driven by an operator, probably in Florida, a young operator that was able to take that boat precisely to where their beacons said they were in the ocean, pick them up and drive them back to safety of an aircraft carrier. Now, you want that for our service men and women, Everybody wants that. How do you get that? That is AI, compute and compute capacity. And we need it desperately. So if you want the best defense, if you want to maintain your style of life and freedom and democracy in America for your children, you give a damn about data centers. You have an obligation to build one in your state and give some of that capacity to the Pentagon or to Department of War or to whoever needs it to provide what we enjoy today. Because we've got an adversary called China. You brought it up. And they have a different plan for us.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Kevin O'Leary]

And so the, and I'm hardcore on this. I see it every day. Okay, you remember the whole TikTok thing when that was going on? Well, we shut that down. That was mining American data, sending it back to an adversary. We can't have that. So, yes, there's a lot of issues around AI, but I can show you in all of my 54 private companies, we're using it now to reduce customer acquisition costs and give better customer support and provide new content to drive our businesses up and make more revenue and pay more tax, create more jobs. I think AI is going to create more jobs. But the fundamental issue that everybody has not got into their head is every single data center needs to give some of its capacity to the people that defend us so that they have the power to do so in every theater. And I'll tell you how this Iranian thing's going to get worked out. This is my own personal speculation. I call it compliance through tenderization. What's going to be happening here now that these guys won't do a deal is the administration is going to say to them, okay everybody, this Strait of Hormuz has to open up. Maybe we're going to charge 10 or 20% to every boat that goes through and we will be the caretaker of the lock like the Suez Canal or the Panama Canal. We'll make sure it stays open. And if you Iranian guys don't want to play ball, you see that bridge over there? At 2:30 tomorrow we're taking out the south end of it. You see your brother's house in the mountains where he goes for weekends? Get everybody out of there at 4:30 on Tuesday because we're taking it out. It's tenderization. And the way you tenderize is you have highly specific ordinance, satellite controlled, AI driven predicted analysis on everything. You need controlled stateside from a server in the US on sovereign soil. And you tenderize every day. You don't have to kill a lot of people. You don't want to do that. You want to take this regime. It's 150,000 militants that are paid from oil. This is a militia control, a million man army that controls 92 million other people that are in misery. But the thing you don't want them to have is an atomic bomb. And so this is going to be a new type of warfare. This is called tenderization. And so you tell the leader, whoever it happens to be that week because they keep seeming to get killed all the time, we're going to tenderize your family's houses. Tenderization 4:30 Wednesday afternoon. And get everybody out of there, get the maids out of there, get the service people out of there. And then we're going to take 10% of your capacity to sell oil. And we're tenderizing there, not all of it. Then we'll tenderize another 10%. And why can you do that? Because you have superior air defense control to AI. That's what we need in America. That's what I'm building and that's what every other developer is going to have to build. So get on board everybody. This is so here's about.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, so, so Kevin here. I need you to respond to this because I don't think, I don't think the tech bros here and I don't Think politicians here. Let me just explain what I feel and what I think my audience feels. The tech, the AI thing, it. Some people say this. Another dot com, I don't think it is. But some people feel that way and they remember the boomer bust. It was the average person paid for the dot com bubble. They oh wait, the average person. The banks didn't pay for it. The average person did. We always seem to pay the price. And this is the crux of the issue here. The tech Bros used our data, we didn't get paid for it. They're now making billions of dollars. AI comes, we're going to lose the jobs. They're not going to lose the jobs. Data centers will pay the price for power, water. We'll lose our small town, our farmland. I worry about how, honestly, maybe it's just me, how we're going to lose our understanding of free will in all of this. There's so many things that it feels like the tech Bros don't understand. We're not a stinking market. We're people. We're individual people, we're communities. And that we're the ruler of our life. And it feels like you just get railroaded by the tech Bros. You just get railroaded by the politicians. That I think is where the real frustration is happening. Do you understand that or does it. Do the tech Bros understand this?

[Kevin O'Leary]

Ben, it's a fair comment. It's a fair comment. And, and it's. There's two narratives going on in America at the same time. And it's also happening in other countries too. France, Norway, Switzerland, Germany. I work in all these markets, the uae, Canada, you name it. There are people that are concerned and have angst and fear and loathing over such a dynamic change. And I want to take you back to the early 90s when the Internet was emerging and the same concerns about what is this thing and how is it going to change my life in a good or bad way? And I understand that thinking. So you've got the camp that says AI is going to take all of our jobs away and then the robots are going to eat the babies. And I get that. I understand that angst. Then there's the other camp that I want you to think about. I recently went in for a full body scan as part of my checkup in Miami where it's now very inexpensive to get this done, the entire body. And they're looking for everything. Obviously I'm concerned about my health. And so it used to take a month to get the diagnostics back on this full body scan on every organ and every bone in your body. Using AI today, 18 minutes. I simply waited and I met with the technician afterwards, and he said, here's four things you got to talk to your doctor about. I'm sending him the disc, and he's going to send it right up to Boston, where my doctor is. I said, you got that in 18 minutes? He said, yeah, yeah, we use AI. You gave us permission. We did it. We have all the data. Think about the advances in medicine. Think about the advances in education. I know that all of these things make America what it is. And we want to be the leaders. So we don't want the fear and other people injecting fear and propaganda into our free market. Maybe there's all kinds of debate. You heard Senator Cotton talking about, where's all this money coming from that's stopping the development of power in America in every state, in Michigan or in Texas. Who's paying for this? Well, I wonder who's paying for that, too.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I do, too. And I think China is behind a lot of this. I mean, look, you know, and this is why this is such a difficult conversation to have, because I understand both sides. I understand the technology. I understand what it means, both good and bad, if we get it, if we don't get it. But I also understand the people are tired of being the one who pays for everything, and everybody else just kind of just moves on with their life and just feels like they're being railroaded all the time. And I think, and this is why we asked you to come on, because you said you've been surprised by some of the blowback. And you said, I got to start all over here because I got to listen to the people. And so I wanted to have you on so we could have this conversation. And, Kevin, I hope we can have you on again if we have more questions. I have more, but I'm out of time. But I hope we can continue our conversation.

[Kevin O'Leary]

It was very good. I really appreciate it, and thank you. Take care.

[Glenn Beck]

You bet. Thanks. Thanks a lot. Kevin o', Leary, o' Leary Ventures Capital. Shark Tank. Shark Tank investor trying to set the record straight on the Box Elder County, Utah Data Center. I don't know if I'd love to hear from the insiders. I'd love to hear from you. If you have more questions, we'll get them to Kevin, but I, I, I think that was helpful, but I don't know if it answered all of the questions. I don't know if you can, because I personally and this is a bad thing when you're trying to do, when you have to do business, when you have to do, when you have to make decisions. I have a daughter who is just the smartest girl, and she speaks a different language, kind of, and she was struggling with something, I think it was on AI. And she said, dad, this doesn't make sense because you know you have to do this, but you can't do that because of this. And I said, I know. And she says, so how can you be saying we have to do this because you know this is true? And I said, I know that is true, but I also know we have to do it. And I said, that's the problem. There's. There's no good answer to this. There is no good answer. And the worst answer we can do is be frozen in place because then that's your answer and you don't want to be on that one. So I don't know how to balance this. This is probably the most difficult question we have that we're dealing with now. And they're only going to get harder from here. But we have to answer this question one way or another. And I don't know how the people do it, but the people should be the ones making the decision, not some committee, not our, you know, not our, you know, city councils. The people's voice need to be in this. In every single county and community that is thinking about building these data centers, it must answer to the people. All right, back in just a second and tell you about our sponsor this half hour. Our sponsor is Super Sure. You know who never gets a standing ovation? The stage crew. They're the ones moving the sets, adjusting the lights, running the cables, fixing the problem before anybody even realizes there's a problem. If they do their job perfectly, the audience just thinks, you know, they don't even think about them. It just happens, right? I spent enough years in radio and television to know that's the way you want it to happen.

[Jason]

Okay?

[Glenn Beck]

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[Kevin O'Leary]

save crank the game.

[Glenn Beck]

Glam back is on. Glam back is on. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Glenn Beck is on hello America. From Los Angeles, California. This is the Glenn Beck Program. I want to talk to you about who I think is being groomed to be the next President of the United States. And in a way we haven't seen since the early 1800s. And I'll explain, explain in just a minute. First I want to take you to the State Department because the State Department, first of all, let's recognize some good things the State Department has done under Rubio. They've gotten rid of all of this Cold War ideology. They, they cleaned house. Hopefully they've cleaned it deep, cleaned it enough so you don't have any of this Cold war thinking. No longer looking to spread democracy through, you know, never ending wars. Because that's all, that's all the work of the State Department over the years. No longer. Now with the loss of, gosh darn it, usaid, we're not spreading wokeism and progressivism and anti Americanism around the globe anymore. And it's changed now. Yesterday we had Rubio come out and say he's taking a stand against the icc, the International Criminal Court, ending that, ending our participation in that. Also they are over in Europe trying to Get Europe to join in the fight against Antifa. But there's some pushback on that. We're also negotiating with Iran. There is so much happening with the State Department. We wanted to talk to a spokesperson, Tommy Pigott, he is U.S. state Department spokesman. And I would talk about Rubio calling the meeting of the 60 plus countries to address the terrorism and Antifa specifically, but also about the ICC and so many other things. We do that in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about our sponsor. Our sponsor this half hour is Patriot Mobile. Almost every dollar you spend is doing two things at the same time. First, buying you a product or a service. But second, it's casting a vote for the kind of company that you want to succeed. And most of the time we don't think about that second part. We just pay the bill and we move on. But every now and then a company comes along that makes you stop and really think about who you're really doing business with. And that's what Patriot Mobile does. They give you reliable wireless service on all three major networks. You keep your phone, you keep your number or change them if you want. And their US based team makes switching surprisingly easy. But they are America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. They've donated millions of dollars to organizations that defend faith and family and freedom. They work hard every month to provide a good service and then in their spare time they put a lot of man hours and millions of dollars of their own money into helping us fight this fight. At the end of the month, you're going to pay a cell phone bill. Anyway. It's nice to know there's an option where you can feel good about who's receiving it. It's patriot mobile. Patriot mobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot 972 Patriot. Use the promo code Becky. Get a free month of service. Patriot mobile.com Beck Tommy, welcome to the program. U.S. state Department spokesperson Tommy thanks for having me on. Hi Tommy, how are you sir?

[Tommy Pickett]

I'm doing all right. How about yourself?

[Glenn Beck]

Very good. It's good to have you on. So let me start with what, what happened with this summit. I know that Rubio brought in, you know, or went and spoke to. I don't even, I don't even know. It's like 60 plus members brought in and, and European allies and talking about, hey, how do we get you to address the threat of antifa in your own country and work together with us to stop the spread of this stuff? And I read a lot of these countries recoiled from that. Why?

[Tommy Pickett]

Well, I think ultimately what we're seeing in a lot of these countries is the opposite in some ways. I mean, for example, the secretary speaking to so many countries, you also have for this ministerial, over 50 countries that have over already confirmed their tenants and we expect more. So what we're actually seeing is many of these countries around the world recognizing this is the problem that it is. We saw designations from the State Department a few months ago identifying specific groups within Europe for their violent terrorist activity. And fundamentally this has been a gap that's existed for many decades, ignored by previous administrations, and we're no longer ignoring it now. We're identifying these transnational networks to make sure we know where the money's going to, how these are connected, working with our partners, identifying them. And that's why the foreign policy element of this is so important, because so many of these groups are actually transnational. So we're making sure we're addressing this gap in our counterterrorism strategy and dismantling these networks.

[Glenn Beck]

So when, when you say antifa, I mean, I think of, you know, well, what about the Islamist and the communist? But aren't they really all becoming kind of the same thing anyway? Is this really one problem or are those three problems?

[Tommy Pickett]

Well, we do see a connection between groups across what might be conceived as normal ideologies, but we are addressing all of those different groups. This doesn't mean that we're not addressing terrorist threats from other avenues. And we have taken concrete actions to address threats from Islamist groups, for example, and other groups that we have been combating for a very long time and continue to. But we are also making sure we're addressing this threat. And we are seeing connections across groups. And what we're talking about are groups that oftentimes self identify with antifa. They self identify. So when we look at a specific group, we are looking, when we're talking about designations, for example, the activity they're doing, kidnappings, targeting of US Law enforcement personnel, targeting the civilian population, terrorist activity. We're identifying that, we're designating it. But then what that allows us to do when we designate these groups is to go after those that are providing what's called material support for, for these groups. And that's the support that's allowing these groups to continue their activity. And these groups often self identify with antifa. They say they're antifa based groups. And so we're just calling them what they are, we're going after them and we're dismantling these groups to protect the American people.

[Glenn Beck]

So when you guys took on usaid, which I think is. I mean, I celebrated. Nobody knew who usaid. I've been talking about USAID for years and, and how it's just a dark money hole and we're really seeing this now pay off. Have you guys found other things connected like that? Are we looking at other things

[Kevin O'Leary]

that

[Glenn Beck]

we have been paying for our own selves that are killing us in the long run?

[Tommy Pickett]

Well, USAID had a fundamental, complete lack of accountability. And that's why we wanted to bring USAID under the State Department, identify those programs. We would have circumstances where USAID was doing a program in a certain country that ran counter to the policy of the duly elected President of the United States, ran counter to the foreign policy in that country. You had a tremendous amount of USAID programs that were simply fueling an NGO industrial complex. And this NGO industrial complex wasn't actually addressing many of the problems we want to address, but instead was funding things that were counter to the United States, oftentimes funding organizations that wanted open borders, for example, that were trying to pressure the United States against policies to secure our border and save lives. That's one powerful example that we saw. So we're addressing this and making sure that when we have programs, we're actually having programs that further our foreign policy. It's common sense. It's how our system should work. And then fundamental to that is accountability. We know where the money's going and also we're able to spend it faster. If you look at our disaster response in Venezuela, for example, we are seeing a massive response to Venezuela showing the effectiveness of a program when you have it aligned with your foreign policy. And in the State Department, how do

[Glenn Beck]

you make sure that we. Because things, good policies always go wrong because somebody comes in and they just mutate and it gets worse and worse and worse. How do we make sure that going after these things doesn't turn into going after candidates that the United States doesn't like or speech that the United States doesn't like?

[Tommy Pickett]

When it comes to speech, for example, one of the primary things that we have made clear is, is we're attacking what was existed previously in the censorship industrial complex. We have Undersecretary here at the State Department, Undersecretary Sarah Rogers, who has made a point to call out censorship, combat censorship, and make sure that people know censorship is now a tool that's completely off the table. And we have actually eliminated certain organizations from the beginning within the State Department that were actively censoring the American people. We've also taken action at the State Department for when other countries pass laws that do what's called extraterritorial censorship, so they pass a law, but their laws end up censoring American speech that is unacceptable. So we're going to protect freedom of speech. So part of this, what we can do is identify those organizations, those institutions within the State Department that were doing things like censorship, dismantle them, and do what we can to make sure that we're righting this ship as much as possible while we have the ability to do so.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me touch on the icc. What steps are we actually taking? And is it possible to dismantle this thing, international criminal criminals right now?

[Tommy Pickett]

There's a. Yeah, there's a variety of options on the table that are being considered. This is a major diplomatic campaign to isolate the icc, which has really turned into a group of globalist bureaucrats that are just determined to undermine the sovereignty of the United States of America, to target American service members, to target U.S. border Patrol agents, to threaten U.S. elected officials, unacceptable behavior. The Secretary being very clear that we have a variety of options on the table, and this is really a continuation of work to protect American sovereignty. And I think importantly, this is not a new concern from the United States. We have never, since our founding, subjected ourselves to courts that want to overturn our Constitution and our own courts. We're not going to accept it now, and we're taking action to make sure that they don't have the ability to do so.

[Glenn Beck]

So let me turn you to Iran, because it's kind of the same thing. I think there's a possibility that Iran is just doing this to buy more time in hopes that elections will change the things. A, any updates on Iran? And B, how do we make sure that when this goes through, these changes that you guys are making are lasting changes and not just for four years. And we, you know, we just snap back to the way we were.

[Tommy Pickett]

Well, when it comes to the changes we're making in the State Department, that's why the reorganization itself was so important and it really was incredibly wide in its scope. Implementing policies that really have accountability for the American people. Eliminating redundant offices, eliminating offices that worked counter to the interests of the American people, making sure we have that accountability and also making sure we have new practices when it comes to recruiting, for example, that we're having the best and brightest join the Foreign Service, join the ranks of so many in the foreign and civil service that want to do their jobs, that want to advance the interests of the American people. I've met many that want to do that, but we're stopped by the bureaucracy. So it's about addressing that bureaucracy, putting a new system in place that hopefully will be long sustaining by the depth and breadth of these changes. When it comes to Iran, what we've seen is the President of the United States being very clear from the beginning, we had a deal with Iran and they broke it. The President is acting accordingly. But fundamental is the very clear objective, that the Iranian regime cannot have a nuclear weapon. And the President's been clear he's going to accomplish that objective one way or another. Another.

[Glenn Beck]

I will tell you, I don't, I don't recall that. I know I have, but I don't recall the time last time I had somebody from the State Department because I've always hated the State Department because they were the ones that trapped us in the foreign wars and everything else. And I'm, you know, kind of a backup of what I was just asking you about. You know, I know Rubio has worked really hard to get us into a place where we're firing everybody, I think on the second floor or above the second floor at the State Department and trying to make sure that we're not, you know, trapped in these foreign wars. You know, our withdrawal, you know, this, our withdrawal from Afghanistan, that was all coordinated by the State Department. That's why it was butchered so badly. And I again, I worry that we're going to be able to sustain this thing. Let me ask you, on Venezuela, there was a New York Times article, they just ran a piece that said Rubio is effectively running Venezuela from Washington, D.C. is that an accurate way to describe it or what's the real situation?

[Tommy Pickett]

Well, it's no secret that we have a better relationship with the authorities in Venezuela than we did under Maduro. That's no secret. I think that's actually a testament to the earthquake response that we've seen the response to those earthquakes, the fact that it was instantaneous, the fact that we've seen the interim authorities cooperating fully on this matter. The Secretary has spoken to how a lot of progress has been made and there are implements in place to make sure that there's accountability, there's cooperation, there's insight that we have when it comes to the movement of Venezuela and the direction we want it to go. We have this three phase plan that we're working towards eventually to see a partner in the region, a long term partner. So we have a long way to go, a lot of work. Our priority right now remains on responding to the earthquakes. We've seen that historic response, but we've seen a lot of progress as well from where we were just a few months ago under Maduro, that illegitimate regime that the so much to threaten the American people and hurt the Venezuelan people.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, I. I said to the president, I don't know, about a year ago, I saw what he was doing, and I saw Panama, and then I saw Greenland and, you know, now Venezuela and then the Strait of Hormuz and everything else. And I said, you are completely changing the world order from what it was after World War II that just kind of just ran by default. You're completely changing this whole thing and setting up a completely new system where it is really centered on this hemisphere. Do you believe that's accurate?

[Tommy Pickett]

Well, security starts at home. I mean, security starts at home. And I think for too long, we saw American leadership lacking in our hemisphere, and no one can contest that. That has changed. Now American leadership is back in our hemisphere, back in our home, and we're seeing so many partnerships being strengthened because of that. Take the effort to combat the cartels, for example, the insidious practice poisoning hundreds of thousands of Americans. We, of course, have secured the border, but we also have cooperation with countries along the entire migration chain to make sure we're addressing these cartels where they are. That has been so important to American security. And we're seeing that cooperation because leadership is back in our hemisphere when it comes to the world order. One thing I also wanted to note is that we actually recently withdrew from over 60 international organizations that maybe started with good purpose, but then have completely changed or atrophied into something unrecognizable that undermines our interests. So we're not afraid to withdraw from these organizations when we need to. We're not afraid to hold globalist bureaucrats accountable. We're going to keep doing that.

[Glenn Beck]

Tommy, thank you so much. Tommy Pickett from the State Department. Appreciate it. We'll have you on again. God bless you. All right. Let me tell you about our sponsor. It's chapter. You know, we don't ask enough for directions. You know, and I'm not just talking about driving. We get stuck on a home repair, but we don't want to call somebody who knows what they're doing. So we struggle with, you know, with what we're doing, and we struggle with a computer problem for an hour before admitting we need help. There's something in us that just wants to figure everything out on our own. I got it. I got it. Maybe it's a stubborn male Thing I'm not really sure. Sometimes that makes sense. But when it comes to Medicare, there is no prize for doing it the hard way.

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[Ricky]

The US led blockade is now officially back right now.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't think that's what's in the Sixth Amendment, but. Okay, that's exactly how I would have answered it before I got the song. That's exactly how I would have answered it. Let me tell you about Iran. Okay. What's going on in, what's going on with the blockade now?

[Ricky]

So the Sixth Amendment is. Oh, yes.

[Glenn Beck]

All right, go ahead.

[Ricky]

So, yes, the blockade is now back. The US Navy is enforcing that as we speak. One of the interesting things is as strikes are continuing is we just heard yesterday evening that the President sent a letter to the, to Congress resetting, in Effect, resetting the 60 day time limit that the President can.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Yeah.

[Ricky]

Deploy military forces. That was at, I think July 7th. So it was funny that we said that, I think at the beginning of the mou that. Wouldn't that be interesting if this was just.

[Glenn Beck]

I wonder if this is a way to reset that.

[Ricky]

The way that presidential administrations could do this up in infinity basically is.

[Glenn Beck]

Can I tell you something? This is why everybody's so upset at. Nobody wants to listen to our speaker of the House or to, to Thune. Nobody wants to listen to him pass the damn Save America Act. And they're like, well, we gotta pass it this way. What. You know what people don't understand? I don't care. I don't care. I don't want to understand all your parliamentary bull crap. Pass the damn bill. I don't care how you do it as long as it's constitutional. Pass the damn bill. And so it makes it feel like a game, you know what I mean? And I think, I think that's where people are because I, we were in a meeting today and Jason said, we got to talk about what's happening with the House because they're saying this about, you know, Anna Paulina Luna, she doesn't understand the parliamentary. And I just said, shut up. I don't want to hear. I don't care. I don't really care. I don't think that they're serious. I think Anna Paulina Luna and others, I think Mike Lee in the Senate and others, I think they're serious about it. I don't, I don't know if, if Thune is serious. I don't think he is. I honestly don't know if our speaker of the House is serious. I hope he is, but I don't know. Stop playing the game. I don't really care. Just get it done. How hard is that? Apparently, if you're in Washington, it's damn near impossible to understand.

[Jason]

All right.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Jason]

Coming up, Glenn makes the case that Marco Rubio is in President Trump's 2026 season. The Apprentice. Insight you won't get anywhere else. Next on the Glenn Beck Program.

[Glenn Beck]

I want to give you an observation, and I. I don't know, I'm going to tie it to some facts and then you can draw your own conclusion. I don't know what I'm about to tell you, if the conclusion is accurate or not, but it feels right to me. You watch Marco Rubio. I think we're in the game of the Apprentice. I really do. I think that's what we're watching. A real life Apprentice. There are memes that go around. And memes are funny because, you know, they're mostly true. Okay? And the memes that go around are that Rubio is running everything. You know, you've seen the meme. There he is, the meme of him on the couch as Maduro. Uh, there he. There he is. Is the mullah of Iran. I mean, because he has all these jobs, right? Secretary of State sworn in January 21, 2025. Then he was made the acting administrator of USAID in February. There's two jobs. Then acting archivist of the United States in February, then acting National Security Advisor on the first of May. Mike Walsh was moved to the un. So that's four offices. For a stretch there he held all four jobs at the same time. One man, four hats.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Okay?

[Glenn Beck]

And that's just the titles because underneath all of those titles he's been handed the Venezuela transition after Maduro. He's been in the room and sometimes at the head of the table on Russia and Ukraine. He also co led the Iran briefings on the Hill. If there's a fire on the planet, you know, I'm not sure if Marco does it. There's another forest fire out west. I'm not sure if he's like Marco, you gotta go out and hold the hose. Not sure. The easy read in this for me is Trump doesn't trust anybody. He doesn't trust anybody. He trusts people who can get the job done. Everybody in his organization, they're always double tasked. Nobody ever in his organization ever says that's not my job. So the cynical reach here is that you would say, well he just doesn't have a lot of good people around him. But that's not true. Let me give you another perspective because it keeps coming to me. I talked to, I don't remember which one of the Trump sons, years ago, and we were talking, I was like, what was it like to grow up with Donald Trump as your dad? And he said, dad had a rule, laid it down when we were kids. If you ever want to take over this business, you have to know every single job that is done. Everything you have to know. Because if, if you not have a briefing on it, you have to do it. Start at the bottom, sweep the floors, learn the pipe fitting, learn concrete pouring, all of it. Because if you don't know what everybody does, people are going to be able to BS you. Okay? And I think that's what happened to Donald Trump in the first term. He was a little BS by people cuz he didn't know exactly, he knows it now. So Marco Rubio in 18 months has run American diplomacy, foreign aid, national security apparatus, our archives. He has been negotiating wars, negotiating peace treaties, I should say he's done all of it. He's done all of it. Tell me that's not damn near every job in the building. I mean he's the keeper of the nation's records, the man who holds the paper diplomacy, money, war, memory, all of it. Trump has said out loud more than once, he told Me, before he. When he was running in 2024, I said, can you get this done in four years? He said, Four. I've got two. I'm a lame duck after two years. He said, so I got to get. I got to get all of the heavy lifting done in the first two years, and then we need two more terms.

[Jason]

Hmm.

[Glenn Beck]

We need 12 years. Glenn, if you really want to kill this, you have to have three terms. So he's serving the first one, which means somewhere in the back of his mind is the question, who is going to succeed? Who's going to succeed me? Who's going to be the guy who steps in and can do eight terms that gets it? So here's my question to you. Is Marco Rubio doing what Donald Trump's sons have done? Is Donald Trump schooling Marco Rubio? Whether he says it out loud, whether he even knows it himself? Is that what's happening

[Kevin O'Leary]

now?

[Glenn Beck]

I know that sounds weird, but I think we're watching the Apprentice. But let me take you to 1814. Washington, D.C. literally on fire. British have burned the Capitol. They burned the White House. The President of the United States is James Madison at the time, and he's a fugitive in his own capital city. Okay. Secretary of War is John Armstrong, and he failed so horribly, he's driven from office in disgrace because they just burned down the Capitol and the White House. The man's nearly mobbed in the streets. So Madison turns, who do I trust? He takes James Monroe, who's the Secretary of War. Monroe is still the Secretary of State. Now he's the Secretary of State and the Secretary of War. He's has both jobs at once. It's the only time in American history where a president has made the same person fill two roles in a Cabinet. Okay, Two Cabinet office offices filled simultaneously. Only time it ever happened. But he also said, you're not going to do this behind your desk. Before the Battle of Bladensburg, Monroe rides out on horseback to scout the British, calling columns himself because he doesn't trust the reports that are coming in. So the Secretary of the United States and the Secretary of War, both the same guy in the same saddle, goes out and counts the enemy troops with his own eyes. The guy didn't sleep for six months. Smoke clears. James Monroe is the most obvious successor in the country for the President, and he wins the presidency in 1816, reelected in 1820, and he's reelected with all but one electoral vote. They named an entire era after how good everybody felt about it. And Marco Rubio is much more of A feel good kind of guy. I mean, he is tough as the nails. I never thought this about Marco Rubio. I really liked Marco Rubio. And when did he run the first time? 2016. I really liked him, but he seemed kind of squishy. That guy's not squishy anymore. Not at all. So James Monroe was not Madison's protege. James Monroe was Madison's rival. In 1808, Monroe ran against Madison for the nomination. And Monroe lost. And it was bitter. And they. They had been friends from the beginning, since the Revolution, and they stopped speaking for years. So Madison brings him back, not out of affection, but out of necessity, because the house is burning, literally. Monroe's the only one Madison believed could carry the water. Now think about the ugliest primary of our time. It had to be 20 in my lifetime. It has to be 2016. Little, little Marco. Think about the little hands. Think about what those two said to each other on the debate stage in 2016. Then look who's sitting in the second chair on Air Force One in 2026. History doesn't repeat, but sometimes it rhymes so hard your teeth hurt. You know, there's a pipeline that people have forgotten. 1801-1837, Secretary of State's office was the on ramp to the presidency. Jefferson Secretary of State was Madison, who became President. Madison Monroe, who became President. Monroe Secretary of State was John Quincy Adam. He became President. Jackson's was Martin Van Buren, who became president. It was so automatic that ambitious men, they schemed for the job. That was that. They didn't want the Vice President, they wanted that one. And then when it stopped with James Buchanan in 1857, that's the last Secretary of State to ever become President of the United States. That's 169 years ago. Hillary Clinton had that job. John Kerry had that job. Colin Powell begged, was begged to run. Not one of them made it. In modern America, the Secretary of State's office is not an escalator. It's a cul de sac. You come in and you go out, it's not an escalator. But I think because the Secretary of State always seems so pompous and so about other countries, that's why this ICC thing is so important for Rubio to head. Look, Donald Trump could have come out and said, I don't want anything to do with the International Criminal Court, but he let Mark Marco do it instead. So Marco is the one saying, it's gotta be about America, not foreigners. That's not the Secretary of State. As I grew up Looking at the Secretary of State, Secretary of State was always about, yeah, being the person, you know, for the United States. But they're also, you know, they're very diplomatic, they don't ruffle any feathers, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Donald Trump doesn't anoint anyone. Donald Trump has never anointed anybody in his life. The show that made him a household name is called the Apprentice, not the Heir. The Apprentice. The entire premise, the entire moral architecture of that program was that nobody is handed anything. You have to earn it. 16 people fight for it in front of the whole world. And every week somebody is sent home and the guy who wins, wins because he performed, not because he was owed. That's again different than what we have seen. It's always, well, it's his turn. Why, why, why did, why did they pick Biden? Why was that such a big deal? Because it was his turn. Why was Hillary Clinton so upset in 08 that you get Barack Obama? Because it was her turn. There's not her turn. It's not anybody's turn. You have to earn it. You know, we tried this. Do I have time to tell this story? We tried this for 24 years. The nominee for president, believe it or not, was chosen by a caucus of congressmen in a room. And they actually called it the King Caucus. Not by the voters, not by convention. A room. And in 1924 the room met a fewer than a third of Congress even bothered to show up. And they nominated a guy named William Crawford. Now you, this what, this is what the, the system will spit out eventually after 24 years. William Crawford is the guy. He had suffered a stroke, was partially paralyzed and could barely see. That's the machine. That, that's what the machine picked their heir, the groomed man. Cause it was his turn. And the American people looked at and they were like, no, no. And so Andrew Jackson took the case right to the voters. And after 2018, 24, nobody tried the King Caucus again. That was over. That was the most anti establishment act in the first 50 years of this country. And it was ordinary Americans firing the people. They thought the presidency was theirs to hand out. That's what Donald Trump has done. I think that's one of the reasons why he likes Jackson because there's a lot of reasons to hate Jackson, but he was anti establishment and he took the little. If the King caucus isn't what the Democrats do right now, now we'll tell you who to run. Not a lot has changed. So I'm not telling you that. Marcus, you know, Marco Rubio is going to be the guy that, you know, Donald Trump, you know, wants or anything else. I'm just telling you that he's being forged. Diplomacy, war, money, memory. He's learning every job in the building the way a certain father taught a certain set of sons, you know, and whether the president is doing this on purpose or whether the house is just on fire and Rubio is the only one that can write out, you know, and count the columns himself, the result is exactly the same. You can't fake what that does to a guy. You either come out of it as Monroe or you don't come out at all. But nobody hands you this country. Not a caucus, not a party, not a president. And that's not a flaw in the plan. That is the plan. So I just say, watch what Marco Rubio is doing. I think it's very interesting that he was the guy and not the president. He's the guy, as the Secretary of State, who comes out and says, the icc, the icc, we're done. We're out. Because it's wrong for America. The world doesn't control us. I'm wondering if he's being groomed. All right, back in just a second. Let me tell you about our sponsor. 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[Ricky]

A lot of people in support of Rubio and how you were framing it. One dissenter, Troy from Georgia, said he hopes that Rubio doesn't run. He doesn't think he could ever vote for him. He's still a McCain disciple.

[Glenn Beck]

I gotta tell you. I don't think I did think that was true in 2016. I thought he was much more McCain. I don't think he is. I think he has been around Donald Trump now long enough to go no, I think actually this is the right way to go. I think he has an example now in front of him. I could be wrong on that. I hope I'm not, but I could be wrong on that. What are your thoughts, Jason?

[Ricky]

It's an interesting observation because he has always seemed like he was more of the hardliner or at least hawkish when it comes to, you know, Venezuela, Cuba or now Iran. And it was more the JD faction. At least that's how it's been framed.

[Glenn Beck]

But he was also, he was also Gang of eight and I don't think he's that guy. Ricky, what is your take on that quickly?

[Jason]

Oh, I think Trump has already shown his hand on who he's got in mind for 2028 because when he was asked about who's going to redecorate the Oval Office after you're gone, there's so much gold in there, he quickly replied, cubans love gold.

[Glenn Beck]

Do you think he's McCain Light or do you think he's changed? Do you think he's more Trumpian? Yeah, I think so, too.

[Jason]

I think he's changed. It's been a decade.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Okay. More in a minute. We're going to talk about the DSA and communism. Also a an article about the new Theodore Roosevelt Museum. And the guy gets it wrong entirely. And I'll tell you about it next. This year, America celebrates its 250th birthday birthday. Two and a half centuries. Americans have worked hard. We've built a life. We've sometimes owned a home that was truly ours. That's why it's so disturbing to learn that criminals don't have to break a window or kick A door in to come after that dream. All it takes is publicly available information, a forged signature and some paperwork filed in the right place. Suddenly you find yourself trying to prove that that home that was yours you bought and paid for it, you worked hard to build equity in is actually yours. That's why I want you to know about Home Title lock. They provide 24. 7 title monitoring. They'll send you an urgent alert if something suspicious appears on the title. And they have a 100% fraud restoration success rate.

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Cnn, their White House correspondent, went on the air and said, you know the way, talking down to us like we're children. Socialism is not communism and democratic socialism is certainly not communism. Well, okay, let's check, shall we? Let's do what c CNN never seems to do. Let's actually check. So we did, and I'm gonna give you the results of that here in 60 seconds. First, our sponsor this half hour is realestate agentsitrust.com this is my company. I started this with my brother, gosh, almost 10 years ago. And I started because we were both frustrated. We didn't know how to find a real estate agent. And I had moved my whole life because I'm in radio and I couldn't hold a job. But I move and move, move and move. And I never knew how to find a good real estate agent. It was always guessing. I don't know. Do anybody know a good real estate? Yeah, I had somebody help me with my house. Oh, my cousin is a real estate agent. You should try them. I don't know. 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If you don't, no skin off your nose. No skin off my nose. Again, you're not paying, you're not paying me for it. So just take the advice and let us do the homework for you. And then you do your own homework. It's real estate agents itrust.com real estate agents agents I trust dot com. Okay, so I want to tell you the story of the Democratic Socialists of America. And I got to tell you, when I started digging into this, I'm like, oh geez, I've seen this story before. If you have been watching me for any time, this will take you back to the chalkboard days and maybe in a couple of weeks I'll do a chalkboard for insiders after the show on the Democratic Socialist because it sounds so familiar. Democratic Socialist America. It has a governing board. It's called the National Political committee after the 2025 National Convention. The far left news aggregator, not a conservative outfit, the Manhattan or the Manhattan Institute. But one of theirs did account on that board and published the count. How many communists are on the board after the 2025 National Convention? How many in the Democratic Socialist are actual communists? 51.9% are actual self avowed communists, 14.8% are middle between socialist and communist and 33% are what are called reformists. What does that mean? I have no idea. They didn't publish this as a warning, okay. They published this as a scoreboard and on the Fourth of July, on America's 250th birthday, the DSA announced it had passed 120,000 members. And they put that out with pride. They noted, correctly, that this makes them the largest socialist organization in the history of the United States. That's bigger than when Eugene Debs started the Socialist party back in 1912. That was the peak of it. It's bigger than the Communist Party USA has ever been. Even in 1947, when Stalin still had friends in Hollywood and, and, and Russia was an ally. Okay, 10 years ago, they had 6,000 people. 6,000. That's a decent high school now in major Cities. Now it's 120. Let me show you where this organization came from, because the story is not what, what you think it is and what anybody in the media is ever going to tell you. The man who founded it would be sick to his stomach today. His name was Michael Harrington. In 1962, Michael Harrington wrote a book called the Other America. Ricky, get that. Have the library get me a copy, original copy of that book, would you? The. The Other America. It's about the invisible poor John Kennedy read it and helped him kick off the war on poverty. Okay, from the Other America. And Michael Harrington. Harrington was a socialist, but he was also, and this is a part that nobody will tell you, he was also a ferocious anti communist. He believed that the Soviet Union was a lie and a prison. And he believed the American left had to say so out loud every time without a single word of hedging, because he did believe that there was a difference between socialism and communism. And he made that very clear. So the same year, 1962, a group of students meet at the UAW retreat in Port Huron, Wisconsin, and they write a manifesto. Students for a democratic society. SDS. This is where the old chalkboards come in from 2008. Tom Hayden held the pin there. And SDS at that point was still under the wing of the older labor socialist outfit that had one rule, one rule. And it was an exclusion clause, that exclusion clause. And they, the teachers union in California had it up until 2008. They excluded one group you could not join if you were, were, or ever had been or are a communist. Now, that rule existed because the men who wrote it had watched the communist hollow out one organization after another in the 30s. And they had learned, you let a Communist in and they're just going to devour you. So Harrington reads the Port Huron statement and he goes to war. Not over, you know, economics, over just one thing. The kids refused to condemn the Soviet Union without qualification. They wanted. They wanted to be in the, in the phrase of the era, anti anti communists. They thought the exclusion clause was a relic. It was something, you know, a loyalty oath. And it was embarrassing. Only something your our fathers worried about with McCarthy. And Harrington is like, no, you don't understand. You don't know history. I fought these people. So he fought these people with sds and he lost. And he later said, I handled it really, really badly. But in 1965, SDS took the exclusion clause out of its constitution. Now, here's what happened next, because you're watching the exact same real play again today. With the door open now to communists, a Maoist outfit called Progressive labor walked into SDS and started taking it over from the inside. Remember, this is a Maoist communist group. But they named themselves Progressive Labor. Why? Because that's what communists always do. They took this thing over chapter by chapter and caucus by caucus. Exactly what's happening with the Democrats. By the summer of 1969, the National Convention in Chicago blew apart. What came out. The other side was no longer a student group. Okay? Sds, as I taught you on the chalkboards a year ago, was now the Weatherman. The days of rage that came that October. In March of 1970, a townhouse in Greenwich Village blew up because the people inside, all former SDS members, all part of the Weather Underground now, were building nail bombs. And they didn't know what they were doing. A bomb goes off and three of them die. That's the arc from a manifesto about participatory democracy to getting rid of the exclusion clause, no communist to a nail bomb, all in seven years. Okay? The hinge here, the only hinge on this, was the day they removed the rule that kept out the communists. They thought they were just removing a relic, but they were removing a wall. An important wall. And Michael Harrington spent the rest of his life building an organization that would never make that mistake. In 1982, he merged his group with another group called the Democratic Socialist of America. And the DSA carried in its bones a ban on something called democratic centralism. What the hell is that? Well, if you know anything about Lenin, it's a Leninist rule that you fight behind closed doors and then present one face to the public. One line, one voice, no dissent. Harrington's people said, no, we're not doing that. It was, in the words of a DSA member, a holdover from the group's anti communist period and a ward against entry. Autism. What the hell does that mean? You know, one reason I Hate Communists is they make me learn a whole new language.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Kevin O'Leary]

What?

[Glenn Beck]

The award against entry. It is award like a charm. You hang on the door. 2025 National Convention. The DSA repealed this. Ward again. Okay, now entry. Entry ism. What the hell is that? Strotsky, 1934. He fought. He told his followers in France to dissolve their little party and walk into the big socialist party. Not to join it, but to eat it. From the youth wing outward, it has a name in the trade because it works. And it's worked here before. And the people doing it right now are not even being coy about it. There's a caucus inside the DSA that published an essay titled Communists belong in the dsa. I'm telling you, gang, you might be a socialist and go, no, no, it's socialism. We don't want anything to do with communism. I don't think there's that many people fighting against it, honestly. But if there are, that's you. It's already written. It's already done. Okay? You took away. You took away the ban on communism. A couple of DSA guys went on a podcast recently, and they explained that the organization is the most fruitful ground they've got because the members there are open to the most radical position in the room. That's not my characterization. That's their characterization. That's a recruiting pitch said out loud in a microphone. You're crazy. You want to. Do you want communism? Come on in. We'll listen to you. And when it comes to running the place, don't listen to the press. Don't listen to me. Let the votes tell you there's a Maoist in the DSA who goes by Black Red Guard, whose caucus put out a statement supporting the man accused of gunning down two Israeli embassy staffers who remember the male and female that were killed. They were gonna be married. Okay? Outside of a Museum in Washington, D.C. black Red Guard in the DSA puts out a statement supporting that guy. He got himself elected to something the DSA calls its Red Rabbits Security Commission. So let me. Let me focus this here for you. A member of the National Board, removed. Moved to remove this guy. The motion failed, 15 to 10. Ten people out of 25 thought a caucus that celebrates an assassin should not be running their security. Only 10. Last month, the Marxist Unity Group put out an Amendment to the DSA's National Program. It passed 12 to 11. What does that say? Listen to this. You think they don't want to change the United States fundamentally? Get away from the Constitution and the Declaration. This is what they just passed, that the presidency and the Supreme Court of the United States should be abolished and replaced with bodies chosen by Congress and subordinate to Congress. We're not talking about extra help that this. See, this is. This is what they said on the View. You know, I'm for firefighters and they're socialists. No, they're not. No, they're not. And that's. Even if they were, that's not what we're talking about anymore. They just passed 12 to 11 the new policy. The presidency and the Supreme Court of the United States should be abolished and replaced with bodies chosen by Congress and subordinate to Congress. Now, you can say it all you want, but you're the people that told me that, you know, there were no such things as Marcus, Marxist or Islamist. And if there were, they would never rise to power. Mamdani, by the way, separation of powers, it's not just a feature of the American system. It is the American system. So the amendment is a proposal to end the Republic. And it was passed by the board of the largest socialist organization in America, the largest one in history, by one vote. And I would bet you a year's salary that you've never heard this from anybody in the mainstream media. So here's what Democrats need to know. This is not your Democratic Party of your father, okay, I want to be precise, what it used to mean, because the Democrats have a history that is, you know, better than they remember and better than we give them credit for on this particular thing. In 1947, American liberals founded Americans for Democratic Action. And they wrote it into a rule, no Communists, not we disagree with Communists, not we don't want any in the building. And Eleanor Roosevelt signed on. Reinhold Niemoller, Arthur Schleser, Hubert. Hubert Humphrey, which is. He could. This guy in Minnesota, he was the most liberal guy ever, okay? In 1947. He and Orville Freeman spent 1948 physically driving the fellow travelers out of the Democratic Farmer Labor Party, which is damn near communist now, precinct by precinct in a knife fight. And it took better than a year. That same year, Henry Wallace ran for president as the candidate of the Popular Front. And American Liberals buried him 2.4%, zero electoral votes. Okay, so what does all this mean? Let me wrap all of this up for you in a nice little package here in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about American financing.

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And now this generation has no idea. So the Democrats had antibodies, ugly ones, sometimes clumsy ones, but antibodies. And they used them because they had watched what happened to every left wing party in Europe that didn't have antibodies. And the antibodies are all gone now. They're not weakened, they're repealed. Vote by vote at a convention in 2025. So don't tell me the person flirting with this is harmless. Don't tell me it's a phase. It's a T shirt. It's a Che poster. A kid who read half of Marx and is growing out of it. The people who removed the exclusion clause from SDS in 1965 were not monsters. They were decent. They were idealistic. They were generous hearted kids who thought the old men were paranoid. And that's the same thing. Seven years later, three of them were dead in a basement with a bomb they were building. Because here's the thing about this idea. And it's the only thing that has ever mattered about communism. It's not an economic theory that went badly. It's the theory of human beings. And it says you're not an individual. You're not endowed by your creator. You don't have infinite and unrepeatable worth. It says you're a member of a class and you're replaceable. Once you're a member of that class instead of a soul, everything else is arithmetic. Arithmetic. Math can't afford that. Well, we have to just figure out mathematically which one gets it, which one doesn't. 100 million dead last century. That's arithmetic. You don't get to a gulag from I care about the poor. You get there from you're not a person, you're a category. So don't dismiss it. Not because the 22 year old in the DSA meeting is dangerous. He isn't. I'm sure he's lovely. He'll help you carry the groceries. You don't dismiss it because the idea is patient and it's done it over and over and over again. And it always enters through the good people who took the ward off the door. The North Koreans call it the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Forget about the name. 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[Jason]

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[Glenn Beck]

From Los Angeles, California. This week I'm in town working on a Christmas project and I so rarely get out to California. I wanted to do something with the insiders. I think the insiders are putting something together in Burbank, California tomorrow. If you're an insider, you might want to check, you know, your insider boards because, you know, if you. I'm going to try to stop by tomorrow. I will stop by tomorrow and, and just say hi. But check it out. If you're not an insider, you're missing so much, including the opportunity for your family to really learn the Constitution, the next song and, and also teaching apparatus. What do you call it? A. What do you call it? A. I don't know. Yeah. Study guide. Thank you, sir. I just, I swear to you, I. Anyway, new study guide coming out for the amendments. This, we are on the Sixth Amendment. This one's got some soul to it. Trying to really teach the amendments in a way that your kids can learn. Like Schoolhouse Rock played a little bit. Well, I like to talk about this. Will you, Sarah? This is the, this is Sixth Amendment. And I just asked Jason on the air, just, I don't know, about an hour ago or we were with the insiders. I was like, tell me about the Sixth Amendment. And he couldn't do it. And I said, that's why you need to listen to the song. Go ahead and play bit a little. What is the sixth Amendment? I, I learned so much from the Schoolhouse Rock where he was fun to watch. We're gonna make, we're gonna make videos out of these as well. But I learned so much because the songs you could repeat and sing. And this one is the Sixth Amendment. And what does it mean, Speedy? Don't delay it Trial. It tells you exactly what the sixth Amendment is in a way that your kids will learn by just singing it over and over again. Means a speedy trial, that you have to have a jury. And, and, and it will teach all the ins and outs of each amendment. So you're missing out a lot if you don't join us. Torch250.com torch250.com by the way, didn't we start. Don't we also have it ready to go for the cars today too? Ricky is in Torch.

[Jason]

Help me.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, CarPlay. CarPlay available.

[Jason]

Go to Glenn Beck. Yeah, CarPlay is available for Apple and I believe Android users. You can go to glenn beck.com there's an article pinned at the top of the website. Gives you all the details for the new features that are coming.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, and, oh, I think this one is out today though, isn't it? I think it is now out and ready to go on CarPlay. So if you have CarPlay, use CarPlay just. And you want to listen to the show through CarPlay. It makes it super easy. It's just part of the app. You can get the app. Glennbeck.com torch all right, so I saw a, an article and I don't want to wrap this person out. You know, I don't mean it that way. I don't want to, I don't want to harp on this person because I think this is the way most people think of Theodore Roosevelt. But on the 4th of July in North Dakota, they opened the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library. $450 million. Okay. And you know, there's a living avatar of Roosevelt you can stand, you can argue with him, you can talk to him and ask him all kinds of questions. Anyway, so I saw this article. I don't remember where it was, but it was a conservative writer. And they said, they went out and they came out angry and I think it was in the Federalist. And they said, because every exhibit that is in the building runs Roosevelt through the machine, the progressive machine, and hands you back a 20, 26 progressive Democrat, big government and fair shares and, and equity and all of that stuff. And the advice at the end of the piece is go and fire the lobby and, but skip anything with words on it. And I understand the anger, but I have bad news for you. They didn't do that to him. That's who Teddy Roosevelt was. I've said this for a long time. I hate Woodrow Wilson because I think Woodrow Wilson had really evil designs. He knew exactly what he was doing. Theodore Roosevelt's at the beginning of this scientific era and he's seeing that, oh wait a minute, we can use science and we can use experts and experts will be able to answer everything and science will be able to solve all of the problems. And so, you know, this government doesn't really work. And he was at the beginning of that. Remember, he is the guy who started the Progressive party. Okay, so understand the museum didn't go. Woke the museum for the first time went accurate. I think that's worse. Okay, start with a statue that's out front. Roosevelt on horseback on the steps of the American Museum of Natural History in New York. Native American on one side, an African on the other, both on foot, both below him. Stood there since 1940. There's a reason for all of it and I'm not going to get into the whole statue thing, but the museum wanted it to come down. Everybody was like, oh, it's gotta come down. That's so racist. And the Roosevelt family agreed and the city agreed. So it came down and in 2022 it was shipped to North Dakota on a long term loan. Now, when this library opened up two weeks ago, the statue wasn't in it. It stood is still sitting in a storage facility. Because the New York loan, the term limits require an advisory council of indigenous and black representatives to recontextualize it before anybody's allowed to look upon it. It's ridiculous. But everybody said there it is, there it is. Woke New York, ashamed of a great America and a great American and what he did. But here's what nobody said. In September 1921, that same museum hosted the Second International Congress of Eugenics inside the halls in New York City inside the Museum of Natural History. The president of that museum, Henry Fairfield Osborne, presided over the Congress himself. Charles Davenport ran the Eugenics records office at Cold Springs Harbor. You don't know what Cold Spring harbor is. Look it up. It's terrifying. That was all run on Carnegie money. He chaired the publications of it. Charles Darwin's son gave an address. They built an exhibition in that hall, in that museum full of charts and family pedigrees arguing that the, and I'm, I'm quoting, the wrong sort of immigrant was degrading the American stock. Okay? I want you to understand this is the progressive movement.

[Kevin O'Leary]

Okay?

[Glenn Beck]

It went so well they did it again in the Same building in 1932, but tear the statue down. Okay, so the museum that removed the statue because the composition expressed the radical hierarchy is in the same building that hosted the conference that taught the hierarchy. Nobody put a sign on that. That's. Honestly, that's an exhibit. I'd love to see that one. Now, let me turn it to Roosevelt himself because I'm. I'm sorry, but the article is wrong. January 3, 1913. He's out of the White House. He's working as an editor at the, the Outlook. And he sits down on the Outlook's letterhead and he writes a letter to Charles Davenport. It's in the archives. You can read it. We have a copy of it at the, at the archives in, in Dallas. And he tells Davenport, the studies are instructive and ominous. And then society has no business permitting, you know, permitting degenerates to reproduce their kind. Okay. It's extraordinary. He writes, we have to refuse to apply human beings the same elementary knowledge. Every farmer applies to his own stock. And that's madness. We have to do that. No farmer would just allow his stock to breed with just any other cow. The farmers who let all the increase come from the worst stock would be threatened as fit inmates for an asylum. That's from the letter. And then this. The inescapable duty of the good citizen of the right type is to leave his blood behind him in the world. And we have no business permitting the perpetuation of a citizen of the wrong type. Right type. Wrong type. Categories. What I've been saying for the last month, this is all this fight is about, categories. It's about, you know, the collective and not the individual. In his own hand to the director of the Carnegie funded scientific Institute, this was not the fringe. This is the cutting edge. This is the settled science that you must pay attention to of the time. And Theodore Roosevelt believed in the science and in the expert and in the government strong enough and clever enough to act upon what the experts knew. That's progressivism all in one letter. Now, was he great with the national parks? Yeah, he was great on national parks. Was he great on the individual and the man in the arena? Yeah, he was brave, he was funny. He read a book every day. A book every day. He took a bullet in Milwaukee and finished the speech. He set aside 230 million acres. That's not the argument. He did a lot of great things. The argument is what he thought the American government was for. Kansas 1910 the New Nationalism. The property is subject to the community's right to regulate its use. The executive is the steward of the public welfare, not the servant of the law. The steward of the public. Columbus, Ohio February 21, 1912 In a speech he called a Charter for democracy, he proposed. When a court strikes down a progressive statute, the people should be able to vote to overturn the court. Former President of the United States in 1912, proposing a popular recall of judicial decisions. That's not constitutional. That's not how it works. You can do that, but the Congress just has to go and rework that law until it's constitutional. 2025, a Marxist caucus put out an amendment through the National Board of the Democratic Socialists of America. Passed it 12 votes to 11. Just told you. Abolishing the President and the Supreme Court and subordinating what's left to Congress. That's bull moose. Okay? That is bull moose. This is just. Theodore Roosevelt is exactly what we were seeing. He's just dressed up in prettier clothes. He's not a despicable man, where Woodrow Wilson is just a despicable man. And I don't think he actually saw what was coming. I think that Woodrow Wilson saw what was coming and didn't have a problem with it. I mean, he loved the communist revolution in Russia. Okay, one, the bull moose. That's a caucus in a hotel ballroom. But it's the same instinct wearing the different clothes. Separation of power is just a speed bump. And the will of the people as interpreted by the right people can't be slowed down. And Roosevelt was the moderate in that election. He lost to a man was who was further out than he was. Woodrow Wilson taught the government is not a machine, but a living thing, accountable to Darwin, not to Newton. That the Constitution is an organism that has to evolve. And when he spoke of the Declaration, he told audiences that if you want to understand the real Declaration of Independence, you cannot read the preface. You know, that's the part where all men are created equal in the God part. Okay, he knew exactly what he was doing. You cannot build an expert administrative state on top of rights granted by a Creator because rights that come from God can't be revoked by a commission of experts. So he knew the preface had to go. And once the preface goes, you're not a soul. You're a specimen. Buck versus Bell, 1927. Carrie Buck. Poor girl in Virginia, Supreme Court rules 8 to 1 that the state can sterilize her. And the opinion is written by Oliver Wendell Holmes, the great progressive mind of his generation. Who writes the sentence? Three generations. I'm quoting three generations of imbeciles. Are not. Are enough. More than 60,000Americans were then sterilized under the laws that came from that decision. And when the Germans drafted their sterilization laws in 1933. Under Hitler. Under Hitler. They got it from us. Mostly from California. California was the model. So that's not a detour from progressivism. That's progressivism arriving on schedule. So don't think this woke.

[Tommy Pickett]

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[Glenn Beck]

Fell out of the sky in 2015. It didn't. It's been running for 120 years. And the engine has never once changed. Ever. The engine is this. You're a category, you're a type. You're stock. You're a unit, you're a number. And you can be improved or eliminated by the pit, by the people with better degrees than you have. And the DSA just repealed the last rule keeping the communists, the people who only look at people as numbers, out of the building. Same track. Same track. Progressivism has no brakes. So that's what. That's who Teddy Roosevelt is. And I hate saying it because I like it, but the statue thing was never about a man on a horse. It was about a philosophy that looked at the American people and saw livestock. The Declaration says the opposite. You're endowed by your creator before any government ever met you. Those are two radically different tracks. And one of them goes back to that sentence. The other goes back, goes forward. And the next station is not called progressivism anymore. It's not. It's called communism. It's called death. I urge you, look at Theodore Roosevelt. Look at the truth. Look at that letter from the Overlook and look at the votes, because we're here again. Back in a minute. All right, let me tell you about rough greens. If you own a dog, you've probably had this thought at least once. I wish they could stay this age forever. Whether they're a playful puppy or they've been your best friend for years, there's never really point where you're like, you know what? I think we had enough time together. You know, I miss Uno so much. So much. What Dr. Black did with new rough greens and their 90 day challenge is he's making a bold promise that I've seen. It was kept with my dogs. Healthier, happier dog in 90 days. And the reason is pretty simple. Even the best dog foods have one thing in common. Live nutrition. Your dog was designed to thrive on. Just doesn't survive the manufacturing process. It doesn't. It cooks it all out at super high temperatures, and then it sprays stuff on it for flavor. And they eat it, but it doesn't have it. And that's why your dog is eating crap. Literally eating crap. Their body knows they need something. Okay? This adds live probiotics enzymes, omega oils and more than 20 vitamins and minerals back into every bowl. You'll have a happy dog for a longer life. I know it. I had it with my dogs for more years together. It starts today. Go to ruff90.com r u f f90.com ruff90.com ruffgreens makes any dog food better? Oh, crap. Turns out. But when did that get there? Come common sense ain't all that common, but around here it's still standard equipment. Glenn Beck returns in a minute. All right. There's a lot to talk about on tomorrow's program. I hope to get to the killing of the conservative, very powerful conservative in England. This is the first time, Ricky, you looked this up. You did some homework on this. When was the last time they had a political assassination like this in England?

[Jason]

Because they're rare some time and most of them were IRA attacks. So this is the first time they've seen a leftist political assassination.

[Glenn Beck]

So this was a not just a leftist, a communist that went and shot a very effective voice or I don't know, shot, but killed, murdered a very effective voice on the conservative side. And today we have two Supreme Court justices on Capitol Hill asking for more security and Congress, you should give them what they need, protect the Supreme Court.