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Joe Kent's Resignation: The Questions We SHOULD Be Asking | Guests: Daniel Horowitz & Rachel Bovard | 3/18/26
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Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here. We're going to start with Joe Cannon. Joe is a guy who is, you know, high up in national intelligence and came out yesterday with a, a stunning letter accusing the president of, you know, just being duped by the Israelis. Yeah. So we got that to deal with today. We got that and so much more. I spent an hour, what, 90 minutes yesterday with Tommy Robinson, and that was fascinating. We're giving you highlights of that and so much more. We have our big special coming up tomorrow night on Islam and Islamism, political Islam. What is the blueprint? Because there is one, and we're going to show it to you tomorrow. You don't want to miss it. Coming up, we'll have all of that information. We start with Joe, ken here in 60 seconds. 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That's something that other services, you know, typically charge about $500 for, often without even confirming that they can help you. Rush offers this upfront and for free, and they will only take your case if they know they can help you. So get a Rush Tax attorney now. Protect yourself. Call 877-554-RUSH 877-554-7874 or go to rushtaxresolution.com all right, before we start with the Joe Kent thing, I want to make things really, really clear. My convince you of one thing or another. And I've been saying since this war began, I am tired of people with their opinions. I have my opinion. I will tell you when it is my opinion. But it is important to establish facts first. And not a lot of people are doing that. And facts matter. They matter. So I want to go through some of the facts, but I also want to start with a couple of disclaimers. I want you to know that as I take you through this, I did not buy nor use. They're just days away from having a nuke as justification for this war. In fact, I rejected that right off the top. Um, you know, I've done several monologues on this. The day, the first day I was on the air with the. With the war, that's one of the first things I said. I don't accept that as a reason for going in, because fool me once, shame on you. Also, I am not questioning anyone's right to question this war, question the government, question our spy agencies, question anything all the way down to me. That is important in a republic. I also don't fault anyone for questioning this war, whether it's in the best interest of the United States of America, especially after the debacle that was Iraq and Afghanistan. I also don't fault anybody for looking at the actual motives of all of our allies. We should, because allies are not the United States of America. They have different motives, just as we do. And that's why I caution not to judge against things that, you know, that others may do that we, ourself, with our own State Department do to further our own national interests. You know, if. If, if you're going to fault somebody saying they're trying to convince us to do something that's not in our national interest, your problem is really not with that government, because that's the job of their secretary of state or foreign minister, just like Marco Rubio. That's Marco Rubio's job. He goes in and Donald Trump says, get him on board with this. Well, it may not be in their best interest. Find a way. Get them on board. That's what they do. So if you have a problem with somebody being duped, the problem is with the politicians, not the other country. And this is where I believe Joe goes way awry on this. If true, his beef should be with our CIA as well as the President of the United States. Now he's making a beef with the CIA, but not with the president. But that's where the buck stops. You know, if China dupes our leaders, is that their fault or our fault? And I just want to direct you back to Donald Trump. He's been very, very clear. How did we get into all of these wars? How do we lose all these financial deals? What does he say over and over again? Because we had idiots running our country. We had presidents who just didn't get it. So that's where the fault would lie. But this is an incredible charge that he made and has deep ramifications. Now, I want you also to know I have pretty good deep sources on this issue, but none of them will go on record due to security clearances and everything else. So I dismiss those things. I have to when I'm talking to you because I can only give you as evidence in something this important, what I can find in open sources. I want to be as fair as possible. So let me look at the facts of what happened yesterday with Joe Kent, okay? And give you the cleanest read I can give to you. Jo Kent's resignation is real. We have to start with that because do you even know what's real anymore? This is real. And at the core, it is explosive. He resigned as the director of the National Counter Counterterrorism Center. He said Iran posed no imminent threat. He accused Israel and its allies in America and American media for pushing the United States into war that benefited Israel. Okay? That makes this the first major senior break inside this administration over this conflict or really pretty much anything in this term. Now, Trump yesterday came out and brushed him off as weak on security, yada, yada, yada. The White House and Tulsi Gabbard. Gabbard defended the president's judgment and said he acted on compelling evidence. Now, Joe Kent is not some random bureaucrat. He is and should be honored as such. But it doesn't give you blanket immunity from questioning. He is a decorated veteran, a war hero, former special forces, CIA officer, two time congressional candidate candidate, and also a man long identified with American first and anti interventionalist wing of the right. He is a much more of a libertarian, okay? He's also been controversial for his association with, you know, far right figures, talking about the election in January 6th and everything else. And so that's why the left has given him lots and lots of criticism as a conspiracy theory, a theorist, et cetera, et cetera. So the public, the American public have two truths to look at him, okay? He's a serious combat veteran, deep resume. He's also spent years moving in circles where grievance and extremism and ideological drift are also visible. Now, I wouldn't normally bring this up, but he's got something else I'm going to bring up here in a second. That is important to say that ideological drift. Okay? He has a deep tragedy in the center of his life, and that is absolutely real. His first wife, Shannon, Kentucky, highly decorated Navy cryptologic technician. She was killed in, I think, 2019. An ISIS suicide bomber came into Syria, blew himself up, and that was during Operation Inherent Resolve. Official Navy and NSA memorial materials describe her as, you know, killed in the line of duty. ISIS claimed responsibility for that attack. Now he has a new wife. And this is important, and normally I would not get into, you know, somebody's wife unless it's an influencing factor. And there is something that is very different about the wife. Okay. His current wife, multiple reports identify her as Heather Kayser and say that she has contributed to something called the Gray Stone. This is an outlet, a media outlet, founded by Max Blumenthal. Who's Max Blumenthal? What is this outlet? Blumenthal wrote for something called Al Akbar that is a pro Hezbollah, pro Assad outlet. Now, he resigned in 2012 over the Syria coverage, but he's also a contributor to Russian state media, RT, and Al Jazeera, which is Qatari money. The gray Zone, which he edits, has been criticized as anti west, anti Israel, pro Russia, pro Iran. Also, he was platformed at an Alexander Dugan linked event. If you've listened to this show, I've been talking about Alexander Dugan and how dangerous this guy is since before the turn of the century. I mean, I first found him when he said that America would break up into 10 different zones and they were trying to create a civil war in America. And that was like. That was like 1997 or 8. Started talking about him. He is very, very dangerous. Okay? This event called the Forum of the future of 2050, was in Moscow in 2025, and that's where Blumenthal spoke on the same stage with Alexander Dugan. Now, I want you to know, crimes of the wife are not crimes of the husband. There's no crime with his wife, but it's a saying. But I learned a very important lesson in my Big Fat Greek Wedding, and that is, the man may be the head, but the wife is the neck, and she turns the head. And anybody who is married knows, you know, if your wife is on a path, dude, you got a choice, okay? Now, I don't find any solid reporting that proves that she's an employee of Blumenthal, you know, in the formal sense, but she did write for the site, so I don't know any deeper than that. Those connections are being argued online but the evidence available does not, does not support she is a Dugan puppet or a supporter of the Red Green alliance. As established fact, however, you can draw an inference from that. But that's not fact. That said, the ideological ecosystem that he is in and his wife is in, it is curious to me that he has taken 180 degree turn after they got together and very, very recently. I can't use that information. Let me just go back to 2020. He tweeted in 2020. We should not sit and wait for the next attack. Wipe Iran's ballistic capability out. Another one. I personally think we should have crushed their ballistic and nuclear capability. But Trump has a plan and he has earned the trust of any clear eyed observer. So he wanted to go further at that time. Why the change? Could it be the influence of Duganites? Dugin is widely described by scholars and analysts as far right in the scary sense. Ultra nationalist, anti liberal Russian ideologue whose work argues for civilizational struggle and it's against the west and the American power. And he's calling for chaos. He is absolutely aligned with different theological endings. He is absolutely aligned with the mullahs in Iran. He is not just a Russian professor with opinions. He has long been treated as an intellectual node in a broader anti Western network that seeks really bizarre alliances across the far right and the far left. And it's all united around anti liberal democracy, anti NATO, anti the United States. Okay, so here's all of the. That's that. Those are the facts. So what is actually happening here? Let me give you that in 60 seconds. First, burn a launcher. You're at home in the middle of the day, going about normal quiet afternoon when something stops you cold. Not a doorbell, not a knock, but the sound of somebody testing your doorknob. And at first you might wait, you know, thinking it as a mistake. And then you hear footsteps moving along the side of the house. Whoever has decided to try to get in has tried to get in another way. And in that moment, everything becomes very, very clear. This isn't some somebody you know at the wrong address. This is someone seeing if your home is an easy target. And that's when you realize how important it is to have an option that you know doesn't require you to escalate to legal force. It still gives you ways to protect yourself and create distance if you need it. And that is a burner launcher. That's what it's designed for. It's a compact device that fires kinetic and pepper projectiles designed to stop a threat without using a firearm. And it is legal in all 50 states and you don't need a permit. Go to Burna.com Glenn learn more try before you buy a sportsman's warehouse located near you. It's byrna b y r n a berna.com glenn 10 seconds station ID. Okay, so what you'll find on social media and other broadcasters or podcasters is, you know, the sky has a wind sock. He's a total fraud. No, he's a man of principle and a decorated war hero. That's not the deepest question we should be answering here. This guy chose to make an accusation of the highest possible consequence, that the United States was pushed into a war by Israeli pressure and misinformation. Key without presenting the proof required for a charge that large. He is not a podcaster guessing from the bleachers. This is a guy inside the intelligence community. Inside, at the top of the, you know, spy apparatus. If he has a charge like that, he has evidence of manipulated intelligence or political deception. That evidence belongs before Congress, Inspector Generals and the American people. Show me the proof. It's important because I can't dismiss you. But I also can't accept it without you coming with proof. You can't just say when you call fire. Fire. Everybody has to pay attention, okay, and run because there might be a fire. That's not the same as this. This. When you say these things, you're required to step to the plate with truth. Why? Multiple sources inside the White House now on record confirmed that he had been kicked out of every classified briefing on Iraq or, sorry, on Iran for weeks. He lost access at the beginning of the year due to him being suspected of leaks. So he was already on the out. And then when they started taking briefings on this, he was not in any of those briefings. So how would he know what the President was basing things on? You know, honestly, due to his leaks, I'm wondering if anybody else has been burned by leaks from him in the past. You know, what is real, what is not. How accurate were the past leaks? I don't know, but let's get back to the proof. The American system does not ask you to prove you're innocent. It asks you to prove the guilt. That's up to the accuser. So if his allegations are true, he must present proof and they must be looked into. However, if he doesn't have that proof, then what he just released was not a principled warning. It was an accelerant. I said this yesterday. You know, the country is all already on fire with Hatred and suspicion and real antisemitism. And an accusation like this is just gasoline. Now, Tulsi Gabbard statement. Let me talk about her for a minute. It's revealing for the same reason she defended Trump's authority and the chain of command. But she appears to have framed the conclusion as the President's judgment after reviewing intelligence, rather than saying the intelligence community had clearly established an imminent threat. Now, I don't know if that is why she didn't do that. Is that a possible setup? Is she going to run for president? Does she need this? I don't know what's happening. Many people are reading her statement as institutional cover rather than a full throat throated factual rebuttal of Kent. It's kind of the middle ground, but again, that's. It's just being inferred, but it's a grounded one. So what is actually happening? This looks like a collision to me of three different forces. First, a real fracture inside the American first coalition over Iran and Israel. Second, Kent's long standing anti interventionist instinct, sharpened by the trauma of losing his first wife. Third, an information ecosystem that too often slides from skepticism about war into conspiratorial narratives about hidden ethnic or foreign control. And that last step is where republics get poisoned. Opposition to a war, this war, or any war, can be principled. Opposition against Israel can be principled. But claims that the Jews or Israel's lobby secretly dragging America into a war require extraordinary proof. Why? Because history teaches us exactly where this language leads when it's flung into a frightened public without any evidence. So I can't tell you anything other than those things are facts. Now, let me give you my opinion. Something's not right here. He changed his opinion dramatically. He has connections to Dugan, like people, which is very dangerous and very hard to spot and get away from once you've been sucked into that, that event horizon, if you will. Something's wrong. I don't trust. Trust it. But I, I am open to seeing any proof. Not hearsay proof. 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Ricky
Torch insiders can see an amazing special on Islam's takeover of the West. Don't miss it. Join torch today. Glenn beck.com torch.
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Glenn Beck
This whole time, we've feared we fought against Islamic terrorism. But the Islamist threat is even more terrifying than that. They're here. They've been here. They've waited. And faster than ever, they're making their moves. They're Islamists. Islamists want the United States to resemble Islamic republics in the Middle East.
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Tommy Robinson
Our goal is to make America, Islam, real Islamic state.
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Glenn Beck
They're among us. They're among our politicians, among our city leaders. There's a template and a playbook that is in motion. We're living here to shift this country's political direction. Engaging in Dawah and Dawah is essential. And most of the Western world isn't even aware of what's happening.
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Daniel Horowitz
As a doctor, I don't just treat.
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Glenn Beck
Terrorism is a symptom. The disease, the cancer is political Islam. It's incompatible with everything that America and the Western world stands for. Honor violence, honor killings, child marriage. We have this idea that, oh, we can't judge other cultures. And it's happening in more ways than you could imagine.
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Jason Butrill
This is economic jihad.
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Glenn Beck
So which side will win the ideological battle for the West? Tomorrow night at 8pm you can find out all the information and join us torch@stoptheconquest.com stop the conquest.com that's tomorrow night, 8pm live. By the way, we're on torches now on Roku. Thank you, Roku, for getting that done for us for the special. We sure appreciate it.
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Ricky
But how do they find the app? Is it through Torch or Glenn Beck? Do you search for Glenn back on Roku?
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Glenn Beck
I don't know.
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Ricky
Yes, you do.
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Glenn Beck
Okay.
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Ricky
Search Glenn Beck. That's one of the questions that the insiders were asking. Search Glenn Beck.
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Glenn Beck
Has anybody used it yet? I know it's come up.
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Ricky
Oh, they're using it.
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Glenn Beck
They're using it. Good. So you can get Torch now. Just search for Glenn Beck on the app with Roku and you can watch it on your Roku. As of today, I wanted to bring Jason Butrill in with us. Chief researcher and also kind of head military guy. Been watching all of the stuff for military. Love to hear your take on Joe Kent and what you think is happening.
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Jason Butrill
Well, first of all, it really annoys me that some people are trying to just shut down all conversations on Joe Kent because they refer back to his veteran status and what he has done in the past.
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Glenn Beck
And he's done great stuff. Which.
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Jason Butrill
He's done great stuff.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. And again, hold two thoughts in your head at the same time. You can do it. It's called chewing gum and walking. You can do two things at once. He can be a great military hero and something that you gotta go, wait a minute. What is happening here?
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Jason Butrill
Right. Cause otherwise, I am also a veteran. I also served in a foreign war in Afghanistan. I can break every single FCC rule that's out there right now. I'm gonna start right now. Three times.
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Glenn Beck
Let's not.
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Jason Butrill
No, I thought that I was absolved.
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Glenn Beck
No, you don't absolve. You don' Absolved because you are a veteran.
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Jason Butrill
That was my one shot.
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Glenn Beck
I was gonna go for it. That was it. No, really bad idea.
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Jason Butrill
So that, for one, irks me. But for two, his shift in ideology is something that I cannot explain. I don't think anyone can explain right now. You can't go from having the mindset that you had just a few years ago, probably just a few months ago. I don't know when this shift happened. But you can't go from knowing that Iran is the global state sponsor of terror. The number one, which he has said in the past. You can't go from saying, look, we have to support Israel in this fight against Iran because they are so bad with their proxies. Everything has destabilized the entire region and they threaten us. You believe that. You say that Donald Trump during his first term should have gone farther and These are the things he lists off. Attacking nuclear sites, attacking their ability to project power outside the country, attacking proxies. You have to do that. Almost not a direct quote, but pretty much around. What he was saying was you need to address those things. I wish he would have, but he didn't. But I trust the president has a plan. Everything he was describing a few years ago is exactly what the war is looking like today.
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Glenn Beck
So let me ask you, As we look for an answer on what happened. The guy is crazy, the guy's anti Semitic, blah, blah, blah. There might be a really simple answer to this. 2028, the MAGA World is up for grabs. Donald Trump is not going to be the head of maga. So what does MAGA mean? That's what's being defined right now. This, all of this just may be. I hate to be so cynical here and again, my opinion, but looking for things that make sense to me, everything is about power. Everything is always about power. Power, money, control. And you have the biggest movement in America in my lifetime, maga, and it's going to be handed off to somebody. Somebody is going to take this. Now, there are those that would say split it. So there is the left that would love to see a split. But there are also those who have such different viewpoints on what MAGA should do. They will not take on Donald Trump. And this is my, this is my key point with, with Joe. Joe, your argument is actually with Donald Trump. If what you say is true, then your argument is with Donald Trump because he's not a moron. Moron. He's not a patsy. He's not senile. He's not stupid.
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Tommy Robinson
He.
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Glenn Beck
I can guarantee you. I know, I know. The man surrounds himself. The guy spent 30 minutes on the phone with me one time, which he did not have to do, talking about trade. I want to hear your argument against trade. Tell me, tell me, why are you against. Why are you against tariffs? He didn't need to do that, but he actually listened and engaged. He surrounds himself with people who have his worldview, but he also, equally as important, brings people in that have a different point of view. So there's no way he just took all of the. He's too smart. But he, he knows that was the reason we got into Iran. I'm sorry, Iraq. Weapons of mass destruction. He has been preaching inside weapons of mass destruction. Live George W. Bush since the day he said it. So somebody walks into his office and says, you know, weapons of mass destruction, what do you think he's going to say? What do you think he's going to say. He's going to say, no, I don't believe that. Show it to me. Okay, so your argument has to be about Donald Trump. If you're Joe. If you're Joe Kent. But notice it's not. Why wouldn't you make it about Donald Trump? Why would you say, and you are the best president ever. You just got us into a war that is serving only Israel and not America. If that's what you believe, why would you say, and it's an honor and a kissy, kissy, kissy, I love you so much. You wouldn't say that unless you're trying to hold on to him, to be able to hold the people who are maga, notice Donald Trump, They're MAGA on both sides. They're not split on Donald Trump. Okay. They're split on the policies. But he is the policy. He is the guy making the policy. But everybody who splits from him, they know. Split from his policy. They know. Keep him happy. Keep him in line. He's our guy. He's our guy. He's our guy. But look at this policy. This is horrible. This is the worst thing ever. It's the Jews that are doing that. Well, no, excuse me. If you believe that, then you have to say, Donald Trump is in with the Jews because he's not a moron. So he must knowingly be doing these things because that's what Donald Trump always said about politicians. Why do we get into these wars? Why do we get into bad trade deals? Because our presidents don't know what they're doing and they're idiots. So if you believe Donald Trump is smart enough to recognize that situation in others, then you have to say, if you believe what Joe Kent did, you have to say, Donald Trump's smart enough to recognize he's in bed making the same mistakes that all the other presidents made, but they don't do it. This is all about politics. This is about the next election. Right now, you are being shaped. I want you to start looking at the news in a different way. I want you to start looking at the news. This is so cynical and I hate this. But I want you to start looking at all of the news when it comes to MAGA as who wins. If I believe this, what do they gain? If I believe this, they gain half of maga because there is that split going on right now. Am I wrong, Ricky? You see where I'm going?
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Ricky
Oh, I see where you're going. And honestly, there's probably some of these folks that would love nothing more than to have President Trump's endorsement.
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Glenn Beck
Exactly right. So you can stay on his good side. You have to have his good side. You have to remain on his good side if you want to hold any part of maga. And both sides of MAGA now love Donald Trump. And I've not been able to work that out in my head how you're. You're going against all of his policies, but he is the policy. I mean, I stood in the hallway with, with J.D. vance and Marco Rubio and had a conversation with Beau, and I've never seen any. I've had conversations at this level before, and I've never seen politicians do this ever before. What is happening? You guys are on fire right now. Both of them. Separately. One JD Came in after I was talking to Marco, but Marco was there when JD Said it. And I said, Marco just said the same thing. It's not us. We go in every morning and he tells us, this is what we're doing today. We're just doing it. It's him, it's him, it's him. So nobody's duping the President. Nobody is. This is not the fault of Marco Rubio, not the fault of Pete Hegseth, not the fault of. Of the CIA. It is Donald Trump. He deserves all the credit and all the blame. If you don't like it, you can't give him all the credit and none of the blame. Otherwise, he's not the guy you think he is. And believe me, he is the guy you think he is. So, again, I don't have anything to back this up, in fact, so don't take my word as gospel, but I'm looking for things that make sense. This doesn't make sense. He turned on a dime. Turned on a dime. So that is either outside influence, which it could be, or it's more cynical than that. It's. I see a way to play a role in MAGA after this president is done. I'm positioning myself to play some role in MAGA 2028, and I'm putting my chips in the anti Israel Maga movement. I think that's what's happening. Could be wrong again, I just say we could solve this. Show me the proof. Show me the proof, Joe. And by the way, Ricky just gave me a tweet that said. What was it that you said? It was a tweet. Or was it?
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Ricky
Oh, there was lots of tweets about yesterday's commentary that it went viral. People are saying, I've never heard you tell anyone else. I Don't want your opinion. I want facts. Until just now,
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Glenn Beck
you can have an opinion, but you need the facts first. You have to have the facts first. That is something I've been saying for the last few weeks. Once we got into this war, I said, I have been watching the news, and everybody has an opinion. Everybody has an opinion. Can you give me any facts first? Then tell me what it means. I don't need your opinion. You don't need. I said in that monologue yesterday, I don't. I don't want to be somebody where you're taking my opinion and just running with my opinion. My opinion is my opinion. As I said yesterday, I have an ass and an opinion, and they're both worth the same thing. When it comes to things like this, when we're trying to figure things out, when we are looking at, at all of this, something this important, you have to start with the facts. And again, because I know one of them said, glenn, why don't you produce your facts that it didn't happen? Did you grow up in Russia? Where'd you grow up? Because I grew up in the United States of America. The accuser presents the facts. The accused is innocent until proven guilty. So you could make that case. I might even believe you if you have the facts. I might even without facts, be inclined to believe you. That, Yep, I bet you the CIA is doing that kind of stuff. Might even be inclined. But that doesn't make the person guilty. That doesn't mean that what you said is true. Produce the facts, prove the guilt. I don't have to prove the innocent. You have to prove the guilt. That's the way it works in America. Back in a minute. Something happening right now. A lot of people hoped they would see, they wouldn't see again in their lifetime. And that is rampant anti Semitism. I mean, I was just talking to Tommy Robinson yesterday, and, you know, we were talking. He said, glenn, you weren't saying that this was coming, you know, in the early 2000s, when he was just getting money just as he was first getting arrested. And, you know, everybody said that was nuts. It is here, gang. It is here. And it's getting worse. And for a lot of Jewish families, that has changed the feeling of everyday life in places that used to feel safe, places that used to feel like, you know, everything is normal. Well, it's not normal anymore. And in Israel, it's really different. Moments like this is why standing with the Jewish people right now matters so much. You don't have to support Israel, the wars, or anything else. But do you believe that the Jewish people have a right to exist and live? I do. Join me, will you? International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They've been around for a long time and they have been helping people in Israel and Jewish people around the world live a safer life. 888-488 IFCJ 888488 IFCJ or go online, find out what they do and give join take a stand. IFCJ.org that's IFCJ.org Glenn.
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Glenn Beck
All right, some questions from Torch Mirrors.
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A lot of folks want to know what makes criticism of the idea that Israel may have dragged us into the war. Why is that anti Semitic?
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Glenn Beck
A. Because you're blaming Israel for one. And I've already gone through that. So that doesn't make that anti Semitic. But you're targeting the wrong one. It should be. You're targeting the CIA or the president because that's the one who made the decision, and anti Semitic because of the stew that we're all soaking in right now. If this was said 15 years ago or whatever, it wouldn't have been. But right now there is this deep split on hate the Jews. You add this into it and it becomes anti Semitic. Here's something uncomfortable. You don't always realize that you're missing things. You just notice you're working a little harder. You lean in a little bit more during conversations or you ask people, can you say that again? You then pretend you caught it the second time, even though you didn't. By the end of a long dinner or family gathering, you're worn out, not from talking, but from straining just to keep up. This is what gradual hearing loss feels like for a lot of people. You're still present, you're still engaged. But everything takes more effort than it used to. What holds people back from doing something about it isn't just pride. It is honestly the hassle, the appointments, the tests, the follow ups, the price tags that make hearing feel like a major medical product. Audien Hearing is trying to make that first step a lot simpler. Their Adam series over the counter hearing aids are designed to be approachable, easy to use without prescriptions, no complications, no fittings. You just get started, you put them in, charge them, and then you're hearing better than you have in a long time and you hear what you've been missing. Don't wait. Go to audienthearing.com Score more with the
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Glenn Beck
Glam. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello America. Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. There's a lot going on today. We've got our big Special, special happening tomorrow night on the destruction of the Western world. And we've. My staff keep saying, Glenn, this is, this is amazing. This is amazing. We did a walkthrough yesterday, doing another rehearsal today. It's a live documentary. We've never done anything like this. Chalkboards are back. Everything that you need to learn and to really get a handle on. Oh wow, they really are trying to destroy America. And there is such a thing as the Red Green Alliance. This is something that you should watch with it with a somewhat open minded friend, somebody who's not necessarily paying attention because when you see it, you can't unsee it. And that is tomorrow night, 8pm by the way, it's on Torch now. You can go search Glenn Beck on Roku and you can get Torch on Roku as well. So you can watch us there. But make sure you join us, tell a friend, gather some people and watch it together. 8pm tomorrow. Also, Tommy Robinson just had a fascinating interview with him yesterday. I don't know what I thought about Tommy. I guess I didn't know about Tommy yet. You know, you can watch things, but when you're seeing somebody from across the ocean and they are, are, they are not rooted in American principles. That's the problem with Europe. When they don't have the Bill of Rights, they don't understand all men are created equal, endowed by their creator. So they don't have these things and so they can go awry quickly. And then when you have the media saying they're a far right white supremacist, blah, blah blah, and you're not over there, you don't know. I have to tell you, I walked away really respecting you. I really like, liked him. You know, he started out as a, as a, a football thug and explained his whole story to me. And I mean, it's a fascinating interview. So we'll get to some of that here in just a second. I also want to continue our conversation from hour number one of the podcast today where we were talking about Joe Kent and I want to get off the Joe Kent thing. But I said last hour, I want you to start looking at everything through the eyes of 2028. If you do that, you might start understanding stories. And I think that's what the Jo Kent story is about. As I laid out last hour, I think that this is really about 2028. This is the, the MAGA movement is up for grabs. Who is going to get it and what does that mean? And so that's why MAGA is being split. And notice they're not splitting Donald Trump. Both sides love Donald Trump. I don't know how that works exactly, but okay. But they're splitting Maga and it's because of 2028. I'm convinced of it. And there's. There was something that happened, I think it was maybe on Monday that was really small. In some ways. It was fabulous to hear. But there's something small that happened that was a tell. And it was all about 2028. And I'll explain this in just 60 seconds. First, there's a word people don't use very often when they talk about their cell phone service, and that's loyalty. Because most of the time it's a one way relationship. You stick with the same company for years, you put up with the occasional drop call or customer service headache, and in return you get service. And there's no sense that the company on the other end knows who you are or is loyal to you or what you believe. None of that matters. And it probably doesn't matter to you on the surface until you start thinking about it. Patriot Mobile was built on a different idea, that a company can actually be loyal to its customers, not just in service, but in what it stands for. For more than a decade, they've provided dependable coverage on all three major U.S. networks. So you're not giving up quality. They've also considered consistently supported causes that defend freedom and faith and the values that many Americans still care about. And that relationship changes when you are in a relationship with somebody who actually stands up for you and is loyal to you and what you believe in. So go to patriotmobile.com beck or call 972patriot 972patriot use the promo code Beck free month of service. Patriotmobile.com Beck 972patriot so there are moments, like I said, where something small is the tell here. And it's a quiet move that reveals the whole strategy. And what happened just a couple of days ago was one of those moments. A task force was announced on fraud. And if it were any other administration, it would just be, you know, housekeeping. It would be, you know, another headline, another promise to clean things up in Washington. You know, Washington creates task force all the time and they never solve any of the problems. But this one is different. This one is different not because of what it says on paper, but because who is standing at the center of it. Donald Trump started a task force on corruption led by J.D. vance. So who's standing there at the head of it is important. And just as important is who is not. I want you to think of everything through the eyes of 2028. And let's look at the board the way a strategist would look at it. Where's Marco Rubio right now? Marco Rubio has more jobs than anybody I have ever, anybody I've ever met. He is right now exactly where you'd expect him to be. Deep in foreign policy, standing shoulder to shoulder with Donald Trump and the administration. In one of the most volatile geopolitical moments in my lifetime. This thing could be a miracle, could be a massacre, could be horrible in the end. Don't know yet. Iran, energy, global alliances, the risks of escalation into World War three. This is the highest stakes I've ever seen a president play at. High visibility, high risk. And whoever is with it is either a hero or a villain. And if it works, there's stability, there's loyal, there's lower, lower oil prices, there's a real peace dividend. By 26 or 27 and Rubio will look like an amazing statesman. He becomes the natural heir, the man who helps steady the world. Okay, but if it doesn't, what happens to Rubio? If the war drags, if the costs mount, if Americans feel it in their wallets and their son and daughters start coming home in boxes, that position is an absolute anchor. Now, shift your focus here for a second. We got Rubio, but I started talking about JD Vance. So let me go back to JD Vance. Where's JD Vance right now on this issue? Where is JD Vance? I've heard rumors he's not really with the President on this one, but I haven't seen any statements and I haven't seen the President say, yeah, he's kind of weak on this.
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Daniel Horowitz
What?
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Glenn Beck
Normally he would say something like, J.D. vance is just not anywhere near this storm. He's standing somewhere else entirely. Donald Trump, say what you want about him, but the guy is a frickin genius. He is going to make sure that the America first idea, that MAGA goes on well after him. Because what did he do? He's put J.D. vance at the same time the war, fraud, corruption, government waste. That's not accidental, that is positioning. Because what Trump said almost offhandedly is actually, I think, the thesis of the next election. He said, and I quote, if we found half the fraud, we'd have a balanced budget. That line is not about accounting, that line is about framing. It reframes the entire economic argument away from the painful choices. Cuts, taxes, austerity, all the things that everybody else in every other country, their Politicians talk about, we've got to cut our way through austerity. We have to start. Doing this would be emotionally unifying. The message is, someone is stealing from you, and all we have to do is stop the threat and stop the theft and we're gonna be okay. And not, in theory. The story out of Minneapolis. Billions of dollars siphoned from programs meant for the vulnerable. I mean, it just couldn't get any. I mean, if I were writing a script, it couldn't get any better. Wait, you're taking the money from children who are hungry? If I'm writing a script, I've got my bad guy. It gives the argument teeth, faces, numbers, outrage. And now Vance is being handed the mandate to go find more. Not quietly, publicly, relentlessly. Trump even telegraphed this. He said, this is not going to be ceremonial. It won't be symbolic. He said that, quote, there's not going to be another czar with no title or with a title and no teeth. Basically not going to be Kamala going down and trying to figure out what's happening with our border. And that's the contrast he uses. He defined in advance what leadership is supposed to look like, and he assigned Vance the role of proving it. Now, let's step back from the whole board and look at the whole board again. You have one potential successor tied to global outcomes that he can't fully control, but he's going to be tied with that, another one being given a domestic mission that can be prosecuted daily, case by case, headline by headline, building a narrative that feeds directly into the next campaign. JD Vance is going to be the guy against Gavin Newsom because he's going to find the corruption in California, so that pits him against Newsom. By 2028, we'll know what the Republican message will be. Not just growth, not just strength abroad, but this. Your government was looted. The biggest theft in American history happened. Somebody robbed our treasury, and we can prove it, and we stopped it. That's a pretty powerful argument against governors like Gavin Newsom or any other Democrat running on expanding programs and increasing. Increasing spending and promising more systems. Because the counter is going to be simple. Before you do more, can you explain why the system wasn't protected in your state the last time? Can you explain where the money went? Can you explain why no one in your state stopped it? And advance is the one uncovering those answers. If he becomes the face of that accountability, then he isn't just part of the administration, he becomes the argument. Same thing with everything that is happening with Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio will become the face of whatever it is that happens with this. Not only this war, but the entire strategy of our foreign policy. You have the pot. If it goes well, you have the possibility of the two best candidates I've ever seen in my lifetime. Because we will know on record what they are capable of doing. We will have seen them in action. This is how you build a successor without naming one. You give them a lane, you give them a mission, you give them victories to see and feel, but you also give them a place to fail. If they're not the. If they're not going to be presidential, if they are not the ones for the job, we'll know it because they will have failed. You let time do all the rest. There's one condition that determines whether any of this works, and that is the economy, because it always comes back to that. If people are working, if wages stabilize, if the inflation cools, then the fraud narrative becomes gasoline already on a moving engine. If the economy is struggling, then even the most compelling corruption story isn't going to be enough. But make no mistake on what is happening here. This is not just about fraud. This is about defining the battlefield of the next election. And quietly, without a speech, without a rally, without a declaration, Trump just put two pieces on the board. You watch those two pieces more in a minute. Let me tell you about relief Factor. There was a time when my hands hurt so bad, I couldn't hide it anymore. I mean, I couldn't write, I couldn't paint. One of the most humiliating things of my life, and as a man, you might know this, if you've ever had to do it, is waking my wife up. Waking my wife up early in the morning and asking her to button my shirts because I couldn't button my own shirts. My hands hurt so bad. My wife came to me and said, why don't you try relief factor? I said, honey, we have been to every doctor on the planet. You think really, relief factor, a bunch of natural herbs and grasses or whatever the hell is in it is going to change? She said, I don't want to hear you whine about your pain unless you're willing to try everything. So I did. And I did it exactly as directed. I had no expectation that it would work. I wasn't advertising for him because I didn't know that it worked. I had friends who said it worked, but I didn't know. I got back. It was Christmas vacation. I got back three weeks later, and I was a believer. In three weeks, you will see whether it changes. Your pain at all, but take it as directed. Please try it. If you're already taking it, you're going to your next update. You're going to get the enhanced formula that it is working even smarter with your body now. They've added some new ingredients that help it really get into your system. So call 1995 relieffactor.com 800 for relief 800 for relief or relieffactor.com get the quick start trial 1995. Do it now relieffactor.com 10 seconds. Station ID. Let me the Charlie Kirk question. Yeah, let me play something. Do I have five, five minutes here, Sarah? Okay. I don't know if I can get to the whole thing, but Tommy Robinson I interviewed yesterday and you want to feel good about America. Listen to the question and his answer. He actually was brought to tears by the end of this. His answer. He was crying. It was amazing. Listen to this from the podcast coming out this week. Cut nine. I had a conversation with Charlie Kirk three years before he died. And we were just having a private conversation talking about what was coming. And he asked me and I said, the only thing that's left is war and assassinations. And he said, wow. And I said, he said, do you think they would go after Trump years before? And I said, oh, yeah. But I said, charlie, I think they're going to go after people like us as well. And we talked about that for a while and I regret now not saying to him. A question I want to ask you. First of all, you seem pretty committed to go all the way no matter what comes your way. True.
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Tommy Robinson
I believe I'm meant to be doing this. I don't believe I have a choice.
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Glenn Beck
God forbid something happens to you. What do you want people to how do you want people who follow you or support you to react to?
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Tommy Robinson
Do I believe that in history, defining moments change the course of the nation. That's what happens. Bloody Sunday changed the course of the conflict in Northern Ireland. No one knew what that moment would be. A moment will come that's going to change the direction of Europe. We've been working for it for 15, 16, 17 years to try and awaken the public. We're at a stage now where the public are awake. I think that when they put me in jail in 2017, I was put in there to be killed. I've been in, as I said, six Muslims got called guns. I just got named in this month's ISIS publication to be killed. I think that when they put me in jail in 2017, they realized that if I was killed, they might spark a revolution in Britain. So I've detailed everything they've done. I think that the public have been pushed so far. We don't allow them to dictate to us who we are. We are organizing peaceful rallies, celebrations, cultural identity, music, art, love. We love our country. We're not going to give it away. And they are, they are trying to give it away. They've successfully destroyed it in 60 years through weakness and cowardice. I want a. I want. Which we're in the process of doing now. We've built the United Kingdom movement which is now at millions on the streets. We want to unite the kingdom and unite the West. This is far bigger than us. It's far bigger. This is Western civilization. That's what this is about. Now, unless you have uni of all Western civilizational groups across every Western nation, we're going to lose. So our, our future beyond. Our next event on May 16 is to unite the West. And for all of these groups, I've traveled. I went to see Salvini in Italy. I went to see Eric Zamor in France. I've been contacted the leaders of Vox. I've contacted the members of the AfD say listen, we need to celebrate our identity. And that's what we're trying to do. Instead of being against something, we. We're going for something before the best civilization the world has ever seen. We're for our culture and identity, individual nations. And it's time we celebrate it and we put back our identity. Because I believe that these people who aren't voting, they're not voting because it's politics. And I don't think you're going to get them through politics. You're going to get them through culture and identity. So our goal is to.
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Glenn Beck
It can be really frightening when it's not rooted to principles. It's rooted to culture and identity.
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Tommy Robinson
It is principles. So what we've done is we got. When I was giving back my voice from Elon Musk, I flew back to the uk. I was defeated. I. I was abroad, divorced. They broke my family, they'd bankrupt me through the courts, through lies. Just come out of jail again. I left, I fled. And then I was in a dark place. Elon Musk picked me up. Give me back my voice. I flew back to the UK, organized a meeting of 10, 15, whether you call them influencers. Katie Hopkins, Cole Benjamin, Mayor Tusi, these are big names in the uk have all faced attack. But now they're all back and he's got half a Million. He's got a million. So we all sat down and we spent two days together and said, british culture's at risk here.
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Daniel Horowitz
Yeah.
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Tommy Robinson
We need to stop looking at our egos because everyone's got an ego.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah.
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Tommy Robinson
And we need to stop looking at what we disagree on.
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Glenn Beck
It's a fascinating interview. He starts talking about how grateful he is for America. You need to hear this. It's out tonight. 6pm is for the general public or on Torch only. It's out for Torch now.
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Ricky
It's available on Torch now. The rest of the public gets it tonight early at 6pm Eastern.
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Glenn Beck
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Ricky
Tommy's urgent warning for America is the perfect appetizer for tomorrow night's special. You can get this podcast early by signing up@stoptheconquest.com.
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Glenn Beck
This whole time, we've feared we fought against Islamic terrorism. But the Islamist threat is even more terrifying than that. They're here. They've been here, They've waited. And faster than ever, they're making their moves. They're Islamists. Islamists want the United States to resemble Islamic republics in The Middle East.
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Tommy Robinson
Our goal is to make America Islamic State.
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Glenn Beck
They're among us, they're among our politicians, among our city leaders. There's a technical and a playbook that is in motion. We're living here to shift this country's political direction. Engaging in Dawah and Dawah is essential. And most of the Western world isn't even aware of what's happening.
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Daniel Horowitz
As a doctor, I don't just treat symptoms.
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Glenn Beck
Terrorism is a symptom. The disease, the cancer is political Islam. It's incompatible with everything that America and the Western world stands for. Honor violence, honor killings, child marriage. We have this idea that, oh, we can't judge other cultures. And it's happening in more ways than you could imagine.
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Jason Butrill
This is economic jihad.
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Glenn Beck
So which side will win the ideological battle for the West? I want you to go to stoptheconquest.com tomorrow night at 8pm Eastern Time where I have a live documentary is taking us about four months and lots of, lots of manpower hours to put this together. It is a complete look at what the blueprint is to conquer the United States of America and how important everything you're seeing in Europe that is only to get to us. We are the linchpin. And it is truly terrifying. And top of the list should be at the top of everybody's list on what is happening because it's happening really fast. Daniel Horowitz is joining us now and I wanted to have you on because, Daniel, you wrote an opinion the other day about the mayor of Dearborn Heights. And he was talking about the, the Michigan synagogue attack. And he said, you know, basically that, you know, the, the guy who did the attack, he was the real victim. Can you take us through this and your thinking on this?
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Daniel Horowitz
Sure. So you know, you had Tennessee Congressman Andy Ogles who said that Islam is incompatible with America. We cannot have immigrants from Islamic countries anymore. And a lot of people went crazy over that and lambasted him. He's a hater. And then when I saw that statement from a polished mayor publicly. So this is not some sort of schlepper in Dearborn saying this privately saying that, well, yeah, what do you expect this guy to do? His two brothers were killed. And then incidentally, the Lebanese government actually tells us that one of them was a Hezbollah commander in charge of procurement. And this guy just blissfully, nonchalantly says that this is what you expect. He exemplified Congressman Ogles point that it's not a matter of a couple of kinetic terrorists, but an entire ideology and a community. In the case of Dearborn that supports it with such pervasive and virulent support that even their polished elected officials in the wake of such an attack are willing to say that. So to me, they themselves are. They're telling on themselves.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, because we would never say, let's say, one of the seven people that have died in the war in Iran. Let's say they're, they, you know, they were killed by an Iranian bomb or whatever. For them to go and blow up the, a family member to come to the United States and blow up an Iranian embassy, we would never excuse that and say, well, I know, but you know, the Iranians just killed him. No, we would never ever excuse that. That's not western thinking.
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Daniel Horowitz
Yeah, I don't think we have to go back to go to Iran. I mean, just in the United States alone we have had numerous terror attacks. So we had the Austin bar, we've had obviously last year, New Year's, 14Americans killed in New Orleans from this jihadist who rammed people, ran them over. You had the two West Virginia National Guardsmen killed by that afghan refugee in D.C. there is zero expectation that the Christian or Jewish victims of those attacks on our shores would go into a mosque and try to ram us, you know, a school of children. And that is exactly the difference that we have a number of religions in this country. Some of them have, you know, different practices than others. You have some very strict practices, some splinter sectors, but even the most conservative, maybe even repressive splinter sects of Christianity, of Judaism, there is zero expectation of violence. There is zero expectation that they will work with, get funded by, or cheer on our enemies. And there is zero expectation that in their houses of worship they will call for the overthrow of our government. And that's where we need to really have this constitutional discussion of what is a religion and what is a political movement.
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Glenn Beck
So let me play, give you an example of this. This is, I think is may, may have been on cutting room floor. Maybe in the special. This is a Michigan imam, an imam in Dearborn talking to his followers in the mosque about Christians. Listen to this.
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We see that the Christians celebrate the so called birth of Isa, which is a pagan holiday. These rogue liars make claims against Allah that are mind blowing. So much so that hearts turn away. From the beginning of every Gregorian year they make the celebration claiming that Allah subhanahu wa ta' ala has a wife and a child. How can a Muslim after this celebrate, congratulate, intermingle with these kuffar claiming that Allah jalla wa ala has a wife and has a child.
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Glenn Beck
Allah.
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Podcast Announcer
Subhanahu wa ta' ala's wrath is upon them. He says subhanahu wa ta' ala means indeed, you have brought forth a terrible evil thing and do not fall yecho for the interface nonsense. These people give and come to the massage claiming that the yahood are not kuffar, the Nasara are not kuffar. No one is kafir. We're all the children of Adam. We worship Allah differently. Brothers in humanity don't fall for this. This is the new thing that is going on today.
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Glenn Beck
Hear what he's saying. Hear what he's saying. He is talking about. Go ahead, what'd you say?
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Daniel Horowitz
Yeah, well, I was, I was just going to say that was actually kind of mild.
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Glenn Beck
Yes.
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Daniel Horowitz
Compared to what a lot of them say where they overtly call for violence. But again, I mean, if you look back to what Madison, Jefferson, Theodore Sedgwick, what they talked about during the 1790 naturalization debate, they wanted people that were fit for the society, that loved our Republican values. Jefferson talked about that in the notes of state of state of Virginia. And they were expressing concerns about mass migration from the countries that they hailed from, from Europe. Okay. They could never have envisioned something like this where we have in their houses of worship a complete subversion against the government of the United States. And I think this is the distinction people need to understand. You have a constitutional right to practice a religion. So you could fast on Ramadan, do whatever prayers you do, but when you chant, we support Hezbollah, we support Hamas, and you have imams and mosques that are tied to and funded by our mortal enemies, there is no first amendment right to that. And to have those, those places just because you might also be praying and fasting inside of them any more than there's a right for the Chinese Communists to set up shop and call for the overthrow of our government. But maybe, you know, celebrate the Chinese lunar New Year while they're doing that.
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Glenn Beck
How do you make the case with our First Amendment that? Because I heard somebody the other day saying all Muslims should be gone. I'm like, okay, that's a little scary. Let's. Let's slow down here a bit. But they were making a serious case that. That it's absolutely incompatible. Well, let me ask you this first. Is there a difference between Islam and an Islamist? A Muslim and an Islamist? Is there a difference? And then next question. How do you make the constitutional case that you're not welcome here?
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Daniel Horowitz
So I think the bigger distinction is Islam as the religion and a Muslim in that respect you could have, just like you have with Catholics, Jews, anyone else, where, you know, your parents, grandparents, kept certain things, but you're not really much of a Catholic. You know, you might have one or two customs you like, and that's what it is, but you're not keeping the religion. So they have people like that that move away from it or don't really keep it, but the religion is the religion. I mean, there is only one path to it. I think the more relevant discussion is the fact that whatever semantic debate we have about what percentage and, you know, what types there are, every single major Muslim NGO and mosque is run by the Muslim Brotherhood. And that is a problem that is not protected. And Jews and Christians aren't protected either if they had their infrastructure run, run by that or the Chinese Communists. That. That is the distinction there. So you have the right to practice whatever you want. But the reality is when you have these epic, you know, complexes in Plano, Texas, it's not some freelance moderate Muslim ponying up the money for that. And I think that is where there is no constitutional right. I also think Glenn, connected to this discussion of why I believe Islam is the same at its core is we need to understand Islam is a greater problem, paradoxically now in America and Europe than in the Middle East. Yes, see, in the Middle east, and you see this especially in the uae, but really in most of the countries, Islam is a state. It's an entire system, except there, because they're all Muslim. Well, they have to have their own somewhat secular state, because an Islamic state is dysfunctional, and at the end of the day, they want to prosper. So they have to clamp down on it and modify it and change it. So you don't get the decaffeinated version. Well, you get a decaffeinated version of it. But ironically, in America, in a place like Dearborn, where they use our Constitution, where we say, oh, it's all religion, it's all Islam, you could do whatever you want. They're creating an unvarnished, unfiltered, unadulterated Islamic state state that they cannot create, certainly in the uae. But even in a place like Pakistan, where inevitably, if you have a guy crash into a place to kill 140 people and a mayor would say, you know, oh, yeah, yeah, that's okay. You know, what would happen to that guy there? They're not going to put up with that. So I think that's what we need to understand. A lot of people thought, oh, in America, they would assimilate. They'd be more of, again, a decaffeinated version. Actually, the opposite is true. If we allow the political aspects of it to form their own independent state, we will be worse off than any Islamic country in the Middle East.
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Glenn Beck
So I have one minute here. Do you think people are starting to wake up? Because this is going to be, I believe this is World War 3. This is the foundation of what will become World War Three. Whether we're in it now or, you know, a prelude to it or not. Do we wake up in time to stop this here?
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Daniel Horowitz
Look, I think to a large degree it's already too late. I mean, like we've been talking about, what do you do when you have, what is it, close to 4 million since 9 11. It's, it's tough. But I think at a minimum, we need state attorneys general and DOJ to unravel every terror funding mechanism and shut down those places.
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Glenn Beck
Are they doing it? This is what you do for a living. You've watched those things. Are they doing it?
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Daniel Horowitz
No, no, I have. I have not seen a mosque shut down. There is no right to be funded by Qatar and Turkey. That is not a fundamental right. We could block that funding. Obviously any non, you know, non citizen that is saying, I am Hezbollah. We are Hezbollah. They need to go home. But I would argue even naturalized, that's the final step. There's. If you turned out to be a supporter of that, you could not have sworn to abjure all allegiance to foreign sovereign. And. And these are all things we need to look at.
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Glenn Beck
Daniel is always good to talk to you. Thank you. Thank you so much.
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Daniel Horowitz
Thank you so much.
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Glenn Beck
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Jason Butrill
I'm about to sprawl.
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Ricky
Who is that guy? For those who don't know.
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Jason Butrill
So Cesar Chavez, he was the guy that, you know, one of the original OG union guys that was specifically about migrant farm workers, things like that.
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Glenn Beck
He would like beat people in, you know, migrants coming across. He would beat them. You have to join. It was all about unions. It wasn't really about migrants.
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Jason Butrill
Yeah. And for some reason, none of that. And I'm gonna read you quotes in the insider feed that will blow your mind. But for some reason they never held his feet to the fire.
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Glenn Beck
Never cared. Never.
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Jason Butrill
When will we start calling these progressive crazy mad men by what they actually are? They're not. They're all bad dudes. They hid this stuff, would never talk about it. But now it sounds like they found one story that they can't hide from. It seems like. But he's been called out for inappropriate relationships with both women and apparently minors.
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Glenn Beck
No.
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Jason Butrill
And they're canceling Cesar Chavez celebrations.
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Glenn Beck
Celebrations starting. It's starting to happen. Finally. And it's weird because they seem to care about things happening with children sometimes and not other times. I mean I, I don't, I don't know how you think straight if you're on the left. I don't know how you stay sane. Really don't. Because how do you keep up with the things that constantly are changing? So congratulations, Cesar Chavez. Finally, finally. Spring is here and the shopping list is long. Time to make a Lowe's run. Buy three bags, get three free of stay green one cubic foot garden soil. Plus right now members can earn four times the points on an eligible purchase. Start spring off strong with these deals and more. Our best lineup is here at Lowe's. Valid to 325 while supplies last soil offer excludes Alaska and Hawaii loyalty program subject to terms and conditions clo.com terms for details. Subject to change point booster subject to exclusions and more terms apply. One time only offer.
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Glenn Beck
Glam. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck program. You know, we have talked a lot about the green and red alliance. Green, Islam, red communism. And I started talking about it before I even knew what that was in a chalkboard. When I said the communists, the anarchists, the socialists and the Islamists will all work together for the destruction of the west, the Western world and the United States of America. Well, that's where we are now. And if you look at our cities, Dearborn green, you look at Minneapolis green, but also a lot of red there. You look at Seattle, parts of California, it's all red. You don't need the green. The red is destroying it. So let me talk a little bit bit about that red that is destroying Seattle. Let me just tell you what's happening in Seattle and anybody who happens to be listening and you're in Seattle, Washington state, get the hell out now. Get out. Soylent Green is people. Don't eat it. Get out. It's bad. 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Your mortgage, your equity, your debt, and find a way to rework it so it actually reflects where you are now, not where you were years ago. No upfront fees. To find out if you qualify, just call American Financing at 800-906-244-0800 9062440 go to american financing.net nmls182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for Ritz in the five starts at 6.799% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms. I have to tell you, I say something and I always, I never used to, but I always say, please don't hold this against me before I say the next phrase. I grew up in Seattle. Please don't hold that against me because now Seattle is insane and it's full of insane people. But when I grew up, the skyline meant something. You know, it was, it was different. The glass towers had just started to go up and the, the global companies and, and, and Boeing. I remember, I remember when they were going to name the, they were looking for a name for the Seahawks and they had a contest name, name the football team for Seattle. And I was driving in the car with my father and I said, dad, and it must have been 10. Okay, what 10 year old boy says, this is dad. It's the home of the, this home of Boeing. They should be called the Jets. And he just looked at me like, you are not my son. I don't know how you are actually a boy. But anyway, apparently that was already taken by some other team. But I remember growing up and it was a really cool place and it stood for something. It was the headquarters of innovation in a city that was all about America's future, you know, and it was rough and tumble that the loggers were there and they're the ones who started it and the pioneers. Now in Seattle, nearly one third of the office space is empty, 35% at the core. More than a quarter of all of the office space all across the city is vacant. Entire buildings are dark at noon. Elevators that carried thousands of engineers and lawyers and designers and now move janitors and security guards through hollow floors where the lights never come on. This is New Orleans without the hurricane. It's not war damage. This is policy that is doing this. And the response from the city leadership shows something that is far more than incompetence. It is intentional destruction. They just passed a new tax in Seattle. If you make over a million dollars, which go ahead, try to live in Washington state, in Seattle in particular, for under what, 150,000. If you have a family, you're at poverty level. Okay, so a million dollars there, you get an extra 10%. No, sorry, not 10%. That would be madness. 9.9% extra tax, another 10%. Okay. They don't have any understanding of how an economy works. Seattle's incoming mayor, Katie Wilson, proposed what she calls a solution. Now to the just the hollowing out of Seattle. Okay, here's what I would do. Fix the problems. Get the poop off the scree streets. Get the people pooping off the streets. Get the drugs off the streets. Clean the city up, and you won't have this problem. But that's not the solution. The solution is, though, all the buildings are empty. So let's tax the empty buildings a vacancy tax. On commercial property. On commercial property that the owners can't fill. They can't fill because of all these other problems. And so the city. I mean, think of this. You're already losing money because nobody wants to rent your building. And the city is going to fine you for it. Like, you want the empty building, you're getting fined. Because I want the empty building. I don't want the empty building. I'm trying to pay for the building. I'd love to have people come in, but I, you know, I've got a huge mortgage on this thing. I have conditions from the bank. I can't just give it away. You're going to get taxed. Okay, so you got property taxes, insurance, all of the. All of this stuff. Vacancy is the last thing any owner wants. Empty space, space means bleeding money out single month. But the political theory running in Seattle assumes something else entirely. It assumes the owners are choosing vacancy. Why? Why? Just think of this for 10 seconds, like you're a thinking human being. Who would do that? What would be the motivation? Yeah, yeah. They're just refusing tenants out of greed. Waiting for some. I got, I don't know, some imaginary payday to show up. So the government steps in of Seattle. The government of Seattle steps in with a punishment. Pay the tax or lower the rent or be fined. That's the economic incentive. Lower the rent or pay the fine. I mean, it would be really almost funny if it wasn't happening in one of the greatest cities in the west coast. The real building, the real problem in Seattle, it's not a mystery. I don't need the Scooby Doo van to pull up. Why did all the businesses leave? I don't know, Shaggy. Why? They left for reasons that everyone in the country understands. Seattle is not known for technology. It's known now for open air drug markets, sidewalk encampments, retail theft treated as a nuisance instead of a crime. A regulatory climate where. Where starting running or expanding a business requires navigating a maze of taxes and mandates. You feel like a criminal. If you're going to run a business, you feel, you know, the city is against you and the state is against you. Even now, Seattle businesses, they face one of the country's most aggressive business and occupation taxes. Then you have layered regulations, the permitting system that can stall development for years on end. Well, companies noticed. They're like, I don't think so. So they start, first thing they did. Let's go to. Let's go to Bellevue across the lake, Short drive away. Lower taxes, safer streets, predictable rules. Okay, so everybody migrated over to Bellevue. The employees all followed. The buildings emptied out. And now they're doing it in Bellevue. This. Now the state is doing what Bellevue may not have even wanted to do, do what Seattle may not even want to do. The state's just getting involved now. We're in places where some of the richest people and most innovative people in the country live. The shores of Lake Washington and all the surrounding areas. Houses that would have been sold before they even hit the market. Just a rumor that this house was up for sale. They've been sitting quietly on what are called pocket listings, some of them, for over a year. Nobody's buying. Why would you. You know what? We should tax the sellers because nobody's buying their house. So maybe they just didn't lower it enough. We should tax them. Good heavens. What is wrong with you people? Instead of asking why companies are leaving, city leaders ask a different question entirely. How do we punish the people creating jobs? How can we make their life even harder? This whole policy is built on the assumption that markets are not signals, they're enemies. And that's where ideology enters the picture. The political leaders now running major west coast cities and states, all trained in economic frameworks that view markets as fundamentally unjust and systems that need either constant correction or just need to be destroyed and profit becomes exploitation. Property ownership is nothing but privilege. And by the way, if you say one more time that you are on stolen land from these damn Indians, I'm gonna. I'm gonna lose my mind. Then give it back to them. Then give it back to them. You were on stolen land. Doesn't help me if you stole it from me. It doesn't help that you're rubbing it in my face every single day. You stole it from me. Shut up. How could you be the mayor of a city that's on stolen land? You have no intention of giving it back, so shut up. Oh, government intervention is. You know, Reagan said it. Government is not the solution. It is the problem. And in Seattle, they think it's the solution. You know, the problem is economies don't respond well to ideology. They respond to incentives. And the incentive in Seattle and Washington state, they are sending a very clear message. If you build here, we will tax you more. If. If you want to create jobs, we're going to make your life a living hell. If your tenants leave because you bought that building years ago, because you thought it would be filled with people, because you thought the city was going to be sane. Now, when you're trying to sell it or rent it and no one will come in because we're not doing our job, we'll find you. If your property struggles, we're gonna punish you for it. What do you think people are gonna do in Seattle? Bye. Bye. The investors sell. If I could. If I had a building downtown in Seattle, I would have sold it long ago. But if I could sell it, I'd be selling it right now. Sell it. And who's going to buy it? Employers? Relocate. This isn't speculation. All of this is happening all across the country. California is doing the same kind of stuff, and the pattern is unmistakable. States that reduced regulatory barriers, lowered tax burdens. After the pandemic, what happened to those states? What happened to Texas? What happened to Florida? What happened to Tennessee? Everyone's moving there. And quite honestly, makes me a little nervous because do you even know why you moved? Are you just gonna bring your same damn politics with you? All the corporate relocations, the construction cranes fill the skylines in Texas, in Tennessee and Florida, meanwhile, what's happening to your state? What's happening to your city? Well, we don't have as much traffic. Enjoy that while it lasts. You can't get a. A rental car to go back into Seattle or a U Haul that go back in. You get them, get them, go out. Good luck finding one, because nobody's bringing them back. Nobody's moving back in. Nobody's renting property. Downtown, you have declining commercial property. What happens to the person that owes all that money and now can't sell that building? Building and the tax base just eroding underneath them. Seattle is now flirting with the same downward spiral. Commercial real estate. I mean, the values in some west coast cities have fallen 30 to 50%. Banks holding those loans are restructuring billions in debt. Local governments depend on property tax revenue. They're watching their future budgets shrink. So they're going to tax you, the little guy. The political answer is always tax more. Always. Major employer in Washington state called the governor to explain how difficult it is. And he's like, you know, dude, you know, I'm a friendly, but it's so hostile here. Costs are so unpredictable. Everything you guys are doing, you're running us out. I have to leave because I have to take my country out. You, because I can't do this anymore. Hey, you know, he's told, good, get out and make room for others. Who says stuff like that? What Company studies Seattle's vacancy rates, the tax policies, the crime, the out of control crazy in the city. Who says, you know what? I think we're going to move our company to Seattle. Capital does not behave that way. Entrepreneurs do not behave that way. Investors don't behave that way. And when policymakers who are just dumb as a box of rocks assume they do, entire economies fall. It's not a mystery, Seattle. It's the result of. Of you being communists. You treat wealth creation as something that has to be managed, controlled or, or punished. And that's why you're being hollowed out. First the company's leave, then the jobs, then the tax base and finally the property values. People watching from outside assume this all happens slowly. That's not how it happens, Irma. Decline moves gradually and then all of a sudden it's going to happen that way. You watch Seattle. It's going to. One day you're going to wake up, you'll be like, when the hell did this happen? It's happening now. It's the tipping point. Enough businesses, families and investor decide, I can't live this way anymore. And once that momentum begins, you're not going to be able to reverse it because capital has memory, capital has options. Rich people have options. The tragedy is Seattle didn't have to be like this. Seattle is a great play. Washington state is a great place. A little depressing. You probably kill yourself because of the rain. But other than that, if you can get past the killing yourself because of the rain, you'd love it there. Innovation, opportunity, growth. That's what you should be looking into. You cannot tax your way into growth. You can't regulate your way into prosperity. You can't punish people for doing well and creating jobs. Attract builders. How do you do that? You get public safety in line. You create conditions where people want to stay. But Olympia and everybody else in Washington state don't see it that way. I'm telling you now, if you have any hope of ever making money, you have money. You have a family. Get the hell out. They will trap you. They will trap you and your money. You mark my words. If these people get control of Washington D.C. what they do in your states, they're going to railroad the hell out of you. Get out. Get out. All right. Legacy boxes are sponsor. Spring is When a lot of people finally get around to projects that they've been putting off, you start opening closets, cleaning out drawers, and digging into boxes that haven't been touched in years. And every now and then, you come across one that you stop and look at for a minute. Old home videos, photo albums, maybe a stack of tapes or films you haven't looked at in a long time. And suddenly you're not cleaning anymore. You're just sitting there remembering. 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Ricky
Yes, that's me. Just a normal girl sitting next to a really smart guy. Here's my first question. If I don't live in Seattle or the state of Washington, why do I care if they burn their state to the ground?
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Glenn Beck
You would think that, but do you know what's going to. Who's going to be held responsible for that when those states go down, who's who do you think they're going to say? We can't afford our health care. We can't afford to keep our lights on. We can't afford anything. They're going to push it up to the federal government. This is Cloud and Piven. They will push it up to us. And I have to tell you, this is. This is the closest thing that I would say for me that would make me go civil war. I am not going to pay for California, Oregon, Minnesota, Illinois, New York. You people all knew. You have plenty of warning. You see the writing on what is coming your way. I didn't live there. I've wanted to live in New York City. I did. I had to get out. It was crazy. Wanted to live my whole life in California. Can't. It's crazy. I grew up in Seattle. Can't live there. It's crazy. Okay. Why didn't I live there? Because you're crazy. And we all know it's going to collapse. To hell with you if you think I'm going to bail your ass out. You want us to bail out? Good. Get rid of all your progressive people. We'll bring our people in, we'll bring business people in, and we'll run the state the right way. Then I might consider bailing you out. But I am not bailing you out while you're sitting there going, you know what? And Karl Marx was great. Go to hell.
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Ricky
Okay, got it. Second question, and maybe this is because I don't understand liberal logic. Why would you tax your base so much that they leave the state and then you're left with no tax dollars? Who pays your salary? What's the end game? A bunch of UBI drones?
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Glenn Beck
They don't. They don't care. They don't. I really don't think they think that through. And those who do, they just think that there's a Marxist utopia on the other side or they're part of the cloud and Piven thing. Okay, we'll just. We'll just. We'll push it in and we'll collapse this capitalist system. Remember, that is an actual goal in the Green Red Alliance. Collapse the capitalist system. That's what they're doing. They're collapsing the capitalist system in Washington State and it ends the same way every single time. Every single time. All right, more in a minute. All right, There's a difference between. Between people who plan for disruptions and people who get introduced to disruptions. Most the time our life runs smoothly enough, you don't have to think about what would happen if it was interrupted. But man, since COVID I think about that all the time. I think about how dependent we are on everything working just right. You know, probably everything's going to be fine, but I mean, look what's happening. It's going to be interesting to see how all this works out, isn't it? You know, you're driving around, you're hoping that, you know, you're going to find what you need after the fact, you know, and something has happened and it's dramatically changing the supply chain or whatever. You better have my Patriot supply. Make sure it's close. They have real practical preparation in place. Long lasting food, essential supplies, reliable gear when your life is interrupted. And I don't mean the apocalypse. I mean things that just disrupt you for a day, two days, a week, whenever it is. Best time to solve a problem is before you're in it. So get prepared. Preparewithglen.com. find a limited time special offer. Help you get ready for whatever might come your way. Preparewithglen.com preparewithglen.com
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Ricky
the Red Green Alliance Glenn just discussed is here. Watch him expose it all tomorrow night live at 8pm Eastern. Go to stoptheconquest.com to learn more.
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Glenn Beck
We're just talking on the, on the Insider podcast. That is what happens during commercials and, and usually we're filling in with stuff that we just didn't have time for. And I didn't get a chance to talk about how if you have a grocery store now in Washington state, you're not allowed you, I mean you leave. But they're claiming now that that can be the state's property because it's essential. So you can't sell the grocery store and leave you. You're providing an essential service so the state will just take it. The other, the other thing is there is a bill in Olympia, Washington. Get this one. Okay. They can't hire any police officers in Washington state. Why? Oh, I don't know. Police just don't want to work here some for some reason. I wonder why. So they can't hire any police officers. So what are they doing? They are actually making it full police powers, carrying a weapon, enforcing the laws of Washington state, making arrests, all of that. If you are a non citizen. According to Senate Bill 5068 legislation allow non US citizens to become law enforcement officers and prosecutors. People who are here illegally enforcing the law and being the prosecutors. Oh my God. What? Get out, get out, get out. Okay, let me go to Rachel, Rachel Bovard. She is CPI Vice President of Programs Times and she has made the best case online. She can make all of this bull crap Senate speak understandable because you know we've got the save act coming and we've got John Corden on our side now it's fixed. John Thune, he's still a little skeptical, but Cordon's on our side. So Rachel is here to tell us exactly what is happening with the Save America act, how this is working and what we should expect. Rachel. Hi Rachel.
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Advertisement Voice
Hi there. Great to be back. Thanks for having me.
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Glenn Beck
Thank you. So what is actually happening with this?
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Advertisement Voice
So after months at this point of the Senate Republicans resisting doing anything on the Save America act because you know they have, they don't have the votes. They can't do it. John Boone to his credit has actually moved to proceed to the House House passed bill. He did that yesterday. So what that means is the Senate is what we call on the bill. It is the pending business before the Senate, and they are now debating it. So once they got on the bill yesterday, and that took the votes of Mitch McConnell voting yes, even though he opposes the bill, Lisa Murkowski voting no, and Thom Tillis taking a walk and not even showing up to the vote, but they got the 51 votes necessary to be on the bill. And at that point, John Thune came down to the floor and filled the amendment tree, which is just a fancy way of saying he blocked Democrats from being able to offer any. Any amendments. And he put before the Senate the changes that President Trump has asked to see in the bill. So mail in balloting, limitations on or bans of trans surgeries for minors, protecting girl sports, things like that. So the Senate is now in a period of deliberation, and I will say, because the way the Senate has operated for the last 20 years is a historical aberration from the way the senate operated for 200 years.
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Glenn Beck
Yes.
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Advertisement Voice
What normally happens is you bring the bill to the, you know, in the last 20 years is they. They brought a bill to the floor and the leader immediately files cloture, which is how the Senate ends debate. He does this before the Senate has any debate. Right. And then the bill dies at 60 votes, we all shrug our shoulders and go home.
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Daniel Horowitz
This is John Thune.
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Glenn Beck
Hang on a second. This is the way I remember the Senate working. The Senate was the great deliberative body, and they would stand there sometimes for days and debate stuff. I haven't seen this since maybe, maybe George W. Bush.
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Advertisement Voice
Right. People still have living memories of the Senate actually functioning. It's amazing. But, you know, the fact that John Thune went down to the floor and didn't file closure. He did fill the amendment tree, which limits what can happen, but he, he didn't file cloture immediately. Just that simple fact means that right now, the Senate floor is the most open that it's been in maybe a decade. It's remarkable. So what the Senate Republicans do now is up for debate.
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Daniel Horowitz
Right.
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Advertisement Voice
Like, they actually do are debating the bill, but like, we want to see them actually put some effort into this deliberative process, which many of the senators themselves on the Republican side have never seen.
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Daniel Horowitz
Right.
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Advertisement Voice
The newer senators have never witnessed a Senate like this. So we'd like to see them lean into the process. But I think, you know, I'm not willing to give John Thune a million bucks of credit, but he does get some from me in my book by just actually doing this, starting the process.
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Glenn Beck
So do we stop calling them or writing Or I mean, what is this, just a show?
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Advertisement Voice
Well, that's the question. And I think, you know, we are only in this position because the conservative movement demanded it it and they demanded it without ceasing. And John Thune again, you know, I think felt like he had to do something. And so that's the question now, is this all going to be performative or are we going to actually see the Senate trying to liberate? Because what deliberation is, is the Senate doing what it's for, trying to build consensus, trying to physically punish obstruction. Right. By forcing Democrats to the floor to talk, forcing them into this negotiation, letting them know as a matter of procedure and a matter of time that Republicans are not going to let up here. Even if they have to pivot to fund DHS or they have to pivot to confirm Mark Wayne Mullen or, you know, or pass fisa, they can still come back to this bill. And I think that's what we now want to see John do telegraph that this is just not a one and done exercise, that yeah, the Senate will be on this bill for the next week, but if he puts up a cloture vote at the end of it and it doesn't get 60, that's just the beginning of the process. Because remember, however, a cloture vote, which is how the Senate tries to end debate, doesn't kill the bill. It simply says we don't have enough senators to end debate yet. Let's come back to this. You know, Johnson should telegraph to all of us this year we are going to do our darndest to pass this bill and it takes weeks, it takes months. We're here to do it.
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Glenn Beck
Rachel, can I just be a little black rain cloud?
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Advertisement Voice
Yes, of course.
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Glenn Beck
I've been around long enough to know it's an election year. They're going to just keep talking about this. We're doing our darndest. Boy, we're in here fighting like crazy and then the election will happen and then they'll it's over. I mean, that's the way it always happens. I mean, I hope this is different, but.
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Advertisement Voice
Well, one of the reasons I think myself and a lot of people have been proposing initially the talking filibuster on this bill in particular is because setting aside the merits of the bill, which are very good, I just think it's good politics for the Republicans.
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Glenn Beck
I do too.
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Advertisement Voice
Right. I don't think they've given the voters anything to turn out for. And people don't remember what you've done. Right. They remember what you're doing. That's the old political adage, I think that matters right now. And so my hope was always Republican senators would see the benefit in actually putting their backs into it and seeing the benefit of actually trying to pass this bill. And once you start that momentum, you hope they. They pick it up.
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Glenn Beck
So why don't they?
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Advertisement Voice
We'll see. I think, one, I think there's a level of detachment that exists between Republican voters and their base, particularly in the Senate. But two, I think, honestly, the chamber and the Republicans have just been so inured to. They've been habituated to this cycle of just. They don't do anything.
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Daniel Horowitz
Right.
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Advertisement Voice
The Senate works 2 1/2 days a week. They don't. They don't amend things anymore. They don't deliberate. So this is a muscle that hasn't been flexed in a very long time, which is why simply starting the process was important to prove that they can do things. And you hope that in the process they remember.
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Glenn Beck
Donald Trump hasn't been this clear on something in a while. Last time he was, it was the other big, beautiful bill, and he got that through. Is he leaning into this as hard as he needs to? And is J.D. vance, is there a possibility that J.D. vance can just come in and hijack this thing and just go, okay, look, I'm in charge now?
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Advertisement Voice
Well, I mean, Trump has said in very clear terms, I don't want to deal with any other legislation until you get this passed. You know, it was fascinating to me that he said that. And then John Doon goes to the press and says, oh, the only supporters of this, it's just really an online page influencer ecosystem. Well, I'm sorry, the President of the United States just said this is a major priority. So do you take him seriously or not? So, you know, I think Trump may have to get a little aggressive with Senate Republicans and show them he means it. You know, in terms of Vance's role, he does have a role as the President of the Senate, but there's not much he can do on the floor. Right. He can sit in the chair, he can make parliamentary rulings as they come up, but at the end of the day, this still lies at the feet of John Theodore. He is the only person who can corral his conference as the leader to get them to do this. And I think this is his biggest test so far.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. I have to tell you, when Donald Trump said that we're bombing Iran, I thought to myself, thank God I'm not the President, because I don't have the stones that it would take to start something that could end up really, really well or could end us up being World War iii. I just don't have that kind of. Of confidence. I'm not that guy. And, you know, look at. Look at the difference. We have that, and then we have, you know, probably the. The toughest, hardest thing any president has done is to make that call, knowing what he knows about endless wars and the. And the way the politics are going to shake out if it goes wrong. He knows all that, yet he still makes that. And then you have John Thune, and all he has to do is support the most popular, bipartisan, popular bill I've seen in probably 30 years. And he's like, well, I don't know. It's going to be kind of tough. I mean, what a wuss. What an absolute wuss.
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Advertisement Voice
Well, that's just. It kind of goes to the point of, what is the Senate for? Right. People, to your earlier point, have living memories of when the Senate was, you know, had titans. Right. When the Senate moved history just by coming to the floor and exercising the muscles of the institution to deliberate, to persuade, to build consensus, to muscle things through by sheer physical effort, because that is what the chamber allows. And it's been so neutered that, you know, we are, again, even as voters, we. There are people who think the sense that bills pass The Senate is 60 votes because every single silent filibuster is simply, oh, clotures invoked. We didn't get 60. We just shrug our shoulders and go home.
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Glenn Beck
Yep.
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Advertisement Voice
That's not the end. It's never been the end for 200 years.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah.
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Advertisement Voice
So we're trying to get the Senate to restore itself.
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Glenn Beck
Well, Rachel, thank you for explaining it in a way that I think everybody can understand. I was reading your tweets, and I'm like, okay, okay, I get it. I get it. Because there's so much bull crap in. Oh, my gosh, their language is so screwed up. But it's. It's the way it is. So thank you, Rachel. I appreciate it. God bless you.
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Advertisement Voice
Happy to help.
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Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
That's why you rack. So if you were anywhere in northeast Ohio yesterday, you might have heard a what was described as a large explosion. And homes and windows and everything started to shake for several seconds. And people like, what the hell just happened? They just, they just verified, NASA did that a giant meteor came streaking across Cleveland, lowish altitude. And how big was this thing? It was like 17.
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Ricky
6 foot, 17,000 pound meteor.
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Glenn Beck
44,000 miles an hour. 44,000 miles an hour. 6 foot, 17,000 pounds. It was 50 miles above Lake Erie when the flash was detected. The reason why I bring this up, it's Cleveland. You know what else is in Cleveland? I just think it's so appropriate. You know what else is in Cleveland? Who arrived in a meteor? Superman. Right. Superman came on a meteor, crashed in Kansas. And that's the story. But Superman was actually invented or first, you know, written about by a guy named Jerry Siegel, who was a kid in Cleveland and the Superman house. Brad Meltzer and I, he called me up, up really early on our relationship. And he's like, glenn, they just found the Superman house. They just found the original Superman drawings. Jerry was a kid and his younger brother, it was like 1932 and they're freaking out about Hitler and about what is happening to the Jews, etc. Etc. And they're freaking out because the whole world is on fire. And so his older brother says, no, no, don't worry. There's a Superman. He's man of steel. He can. He can do anything. And in their bedroom, he started drawing Superman drawings on the wall. So Brad calls me up years ago and he said, glenn, they just found the Superman house went up, was. Was going to be demolished. And he said, somebody went in. They ripped the wallpaper off of the bedroom where Jerry and his brother used to. To sleep. And there's all the original Superman. He's like, we've gotta. We gotta save this house. And so we work together to buy the house and save the house. So now you can go to Cleveland and see the Superman. Superman house, which is really cool.
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Ricky
So is your theory that the asteroid crash.
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Glenn Beck
Yes, I think Superman arrived. He always arrives when there's really trouble, you know, I mean, it's like trouble that no human can solve. Solve. Superman is someplace probably drowning in the bottom of Lake Erie. Now he's like, crap, I came this whole way and I landed in the water. I can't swim. But I just. I just thought, when I saw that yesterday, I thought, wow, that is. That's a cool coincidence. But I thought you didn't believe in coincidence. No, Superman is here, I'm telling you. Wouldn't it be nice, by the way, tomorrow, today, there's something you should know. 6:00pm Tommy Robinson and I sat down for an interview yesterday. It was live for the insiders yesterday and you'll be able to see it now. We're releasing it early. Usually podcasts come out for everybody on Saturday, but you're going to be able to see. It's released tonight. Everywhere at 6pm Tommy Robinson and I sat down. Which reminds me, I want to go to Europe and be a part of his or to England and be a part of his deal in May.
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Ricky
That's so cool that your budget guy is sitting right next to you to have this conversation.
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Glenn Beck
But anyway, he was a fascinating guy and it's a look at what's happening to Europe, England, but more importantly, what's happening here in the United States. I think he's one of the bravest guys I've ever met, and you don't want to miss this. And then Tomorrow night at 8pm Eastern, the first Torch special attendance. A deep dive into the blueprints of our demise through the Islamic takeover of the Western world. It's shocking, horrifying, and will give you all of the details you need. You don't want to miss it. Join us glennbeck.com torch.