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Joe Rogan & Glenn Agree: Conditions Are Ripe for Civil War | Guests: Gov. Greg Abbott & Sen. John Kennedy | 11/13/25
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Glenn Beck
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Governor Greg Abbott
Down the road where shadows hide.
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Glenn Beck
Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark.
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Senator John Kennedy
Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire.
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Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Oh, we have so much to cover today. We're gonna start with Jeffrey Epstein because, I mean, why not? Did you hear the latest? Well, is it the latest? We'll get to that in just a second. First, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. Every Single month millions of Americans pay their phone bill and you don't think about it. You don't think where the money goes. But here's the truth. A lot of major wireless companies use your money to push politics that you don't agree with at all. They fund causes that undermine everything that built our country and everything believe in. Patriot Bubble is the cure for that. It is America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. And it's built for people who still believe in family and faith and freedom. And they use the same nationwide network as the big guy. So you get great service and it's reliable and affordable without sending all your hard earned money to companies that mock your beliefs. So switch to Patriot Mobile right now. You're not just getting a new phone plan. You're taking back your voice saying, my dollars stand for something. It's Patriot Mobile because connection should never be. Should never come at the cost of conviction. It's Patriot Mobile. Patriotmobile.com Beck. Use the promo code Beck and you're going to get a free month of service. Call 972 Patriot 972 Patriot or patriotmobile.com Beck. Make sure you use the promo code Beck. All right, well, let's dive right into the Epstein Maxwell emails. My gosh, dude, why are they trying to cover up that Donald Trump had sex with children?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
I mean, it's as clear as as.
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Glenn Beck
Day in the emails.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
You know, he spent hours with one of the victims. What else could possibly have occurred in that arrangement? We don't know.
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Glenn Beck
And it's one of the. It's one of the victims, Stu. One of the victims.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
One of the victims. That's all we know. That's all we know. One of the victims.
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Glenn Beck
Let me, let me read what Jeffrey Epstein wrote. I want you to realize that the dog who hasn't barked is Trump. Victim. Redacted victim. Spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned. Police Chief, etc. Okay, new information just released. Or is it because in 2011, 2011 that was released and everybody knew it. It's been out floating around. Here's the change in 2011. This is what it read. I want you to realize the dog, it hasn't bark is Trump, Virginia spent hours at my house with him. Why would you redact a name that is already out in the public square? It's already out. The memo is already out. The email is already out. It's been out for years. Why would you redact that name now? Well, because it makes it all suddenly new and shiny. Shiny and New. If you don't know who said it, you see victim, and you're like, oh, there's a victim that he was. Who was the victim? I don't know. But when you know it's Virginia, you know, this is already gone to court. This is. She already testified about this. He didn't partake in any of this. Any sex with any of it. It's true. He didn't partake in any sex with us. And I'm quoting. This is from the testimony, but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me. Have you ever met him? Yes, at Mar A Lago. My dad and him, I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him and they would talk. Um, have you ever been in Donald Trump or Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another? No. What's the basis of your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffrey. Jeffrey's told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his. He didn't partake in any of. Any of the sex with. Any of it with. He flirted with me. It's true that he didn't partake in any sex with us, but it's not true that he flirted with me. So I don't understand that. But she goes on, donald Trump never flirted with me. Okay, so what's new about this? This is the same girl. This is the same person that. Didn't she work at Mar A Lago or she was going to get a job at Mar A Lago?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
I believe she did. Yeah, I believe she did at one point.
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Glenn Beck
So we know they know each other. We know they know each other. We know that at Mar A Lago, Jeffrey Epstein would come and he was poaching the employees, the girls there, to go work for him. And Donald Trump went to and said, hey, man, stop it. Stop poaching people from me. That's not cool. Don't do it. Um, and then he said, oh, yeah, all right. And then he did it a second time, and he's like, you know what? You're out. I don't want you here anymore. I asked you not to do that, and you did it. Now, that doesn't mean that he knew anything about the girls or what was happening or anything else. And even if it did mean he knew something was happening with the girls, he was saying, hey, stop it. Don't take any of the. Don't take any of the girls or the women here. Don't do it. I don't believe he knew anything about any of this. But God only knows, and really, God only knows, this is not new news. Donald Trump, he might end up beating Bezos as the richest man on the planet when all is said and done. Because again, they're presenting this as new fact. A giant scandal. Stu, I don't know if you know this. This breaking news is a giant scandal.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Yeah, I've heard Democratic representatives saying that over the past 24 hours. Like, yeah, we need to investigate this. We need to vet this. This is shocking. St. It's a massive scandal. And even ABC News, I heard push back against this and say, well, what scandal, what are you implying occurred here? We know who the victim was. We know the victim. Like, why, why did you even redact that name? And they're like, well, we always redact the name of victims.
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Glenn Beck
Like, do you really?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
When they're already out publicly? Not to mention, we should point out that this particular victim is not even alive. You know, she sadly died. I mean, it's a terrible, terrible story.
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Glenn Beck
Terrible story, terrible story.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
But ye passed away. She's suicide. It was at least the report, I believe. But she has a book, posthumous book coming out, but like a terrible, terrible story. But to act as if you have to protect her identity when, number one, she's ridiculous. Number two, everyone already knows her, including the news sources who also have a policy, you would think, and ABC News has a policy that they would redact a victim that was in this type of situation. But it's already been out. We already knew who it was. So they redacted to make it look like he's with other people who have not already told us nothing bad occurred. You know, it is an absolutely awful tactic. And at least that, at least one.
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Glenn Beck
I think litigation should follow again. I think he should sue them again. Anyone who is presenting this as new information, ABC did their job. Congratulations for abc. They did their job. They pointed out this is not new information. Why would you redo. Why are you releasing this now and you're redacting a name? This, this, this email is already out. You're presenting this as a new scandal and you redacted that name. This is completely dishonest. The news media shouldn't even run with it. They shouldn't have even run with it. They should have said old news, old news. And if you did run with it, you should handle it the way ABC handled it. Wait a minute. Why, why would you redact the name that. There's nothing new here? What do you mean there's a big scandal. There's no big scandal she's already testified against. Exactly opposite of what you're believing. Jeffrey Epstein over the victim. Now, I just want to make sure we understand the Democrats here. You're taking the word of Epstein over the victim. Oh, okay.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
And Epstein doesn't even say that anything occurred. There's not. It's just, it would be something. You'd have to jump to a conclusion to accuse Donald Trump of something like this. And we know what happened because the victim said nothing. Said it was nothing. In fact, it wasn't even a flirtation, which, by the way, even that you might think it's creepy. Wouldn't even have been a crime. Uh, but it wasn't even flirtation. Uh, so I.
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Justin Haskins
It's.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's a disgrace in every single way.
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Glenn Beck
All right, so let me. Let me take you here, Let me take you here. Um, if you remember when the shutdown first started, what did the Democrats say? The reason why they did the shutdown? Not them. Why Mike Johnson and everybody else wouldn't negotiate. Why wouldn't it. Why wouldn't the Republicans negotiate? Because the heat was on to release the Epstein files and they didn't want to have to do that. So they shut the government down. Okay. They wouldn't negotiate. You didn't hear any of this.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's incomprehensible. It doesn't make any.
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Glenn Beck
I know.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Any sense.
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Glenn Beck
I know.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
That is probably what they said.
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Glenn Beck
So the government is open. And what does Mike Johnson do? Yesterday he said the House is going to vote on a bill to release all of the files related to the late financier, convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, next week. He said on Wednesday that a discharge position to bypass leadership and force a vote on the bill hit the benchmark for needed signatures. It's been decided by him to expediate the vote for the bill, which under the current rules could have been delayed until at least early December. So is he says as soon as that petition hit the needed 218 signatures, I brought it up. Unanimous consent. Let's go. Release it. So he's pushing this forward. Good, Mike. Release all of it. Thank you. Get it out, Lance. This boil. I mean, if anybody thinks that you're ever going to get the truth on this in the first place, it's madness. It's madness. Everybody. I mean, so many important people were involved in this, and it was in the hands of the Democrats for the longest time. Okay. So they had all of this information. You don't think it was all picked through? And, and if there was Anything about Donald Trump. You don't think that would have come up between 2020 and 2024? There's nothing in there about Donald Trump. I mean, you, these people are so stupid. This time we got him, boys. This time we got him. No, you don't. It's. It's like you're Wiley Coyote. This time we've got the Roadrunner. No, you're never going to catch him on this. It doesn't work. There's nothing there. The guy was the most investigated person in the history of, of the world and you got nothing. Now, it's good to come out, but if you think you're going to catch a bunch of people on the left, you're not going to because they had it, you know, in their possession. You don't think all of the names were taken out. You don't think things were destroyed. If there was anything. I believe there was something, but I don't believe there's any names in it anymore. You're not going to get the truth on this one. You're just not going to get the truth, but release everything that we have. Everything. Oh, by the way, also in the Epstein emails. How come nobody's talking about this one, Stu? This one is from Michael Wolf to Jeffrey Epstein. And then Jeffrey Epstein responds. So Michael Wolf writes, what's the thumbnail on Nussbaum Foster? And Jeffrey Epstein writes back, nsbaum, White House counsel, dot, dot, dot. Hillary doing naughty's with Vince. Now, Vince Foster killed himself, you know, and then he killed himself in the White House and then drug himself across the street to the park. I mean, I don't know. The Vince Foster thing is so old and it does. But why is nobody talking about that one? Why is no one talking about that? Also in the Jeffrey Epstein email bundle, abc. You don't feel it's necessary to bring that one up, huh? Interesting. All right, let me take a quick break and I'm going to come back. We're going to talk about the shutdown here for a second. But first, there's a point that everybody hits. It's a tipping point. It's the morning you sit on the edge of the bed and you think, I can't keep doing it. I can't. The meds aren't helping. The stretches don't last. I'm tired of feeling twice my age. You just want your life back. The energy, the ease, the simple things that used to come naturally. Right? Relief factor exists for that moment. It's a daily supplement designed by doctors to target the root causes of pain, inflammation. So your body can do what it was built to do, heal itself naturally. Gradually. Hundreds of thousands of people have already discovered that they don't have to live on the sidelines. When you reduce pain, you don't feel better. You start moving again. You gotta go for the walk, you get to play with the kids, get your life back one day at a time the way it should be. It's relief factor because feeling better doesn't have to be a miracle. It can just be a decision. Give their three week quick start a try. Thousands of thousands and thousands of people have tried it. 70% of them stay on it because it works for them. Visit relief factor relieffactor.com, call 800 for relief 800, the number 4 relief. 10 seconds. Back to the show. Okay, so the record breaking shutdown is over. Last night Donald Trump signed the continuing resolution into law. So we don't have to worry about this until January, where they're going to do it again. I gotta tell you, Carolyn Levitt is just the best. She's the best. She came out yesterday and said just want to remind you everything that's going on. The small business optimism index and the Federal Reserve reported the shutdown has already negatively impacted the economy. Millions of Americans are employed by the federal government. Millions more work as federal contractors. Subcontractors are for businesses that depend on federal contracts or funding. Hundreds, hundreds of thousands of federal employees have missed their paychecks. Tens of billions in wages and benefits were withheld impacting vulnerable families. Millions of low income American families missed their SNAP benefits. Nearly 20,000 flights at airports across the country were delayed due to staffing shortages, causing Americans to miss family events, vacations and work obligations. She noted. American Airlines estimate flight disruption already have or will impact 5.2 million people who are traveling. Congressional Budget Office estimates the for the cuts to the fourth quarter GDP growth could be as large as 2%, potentially delivering a negative blow to the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson's plan to keep the federal deficit at 3% of GDP in his 333 plan. Most of the decline in real GDP will be recovered eventually, but estimates are between 7 billion and $14 billion will never be recovered because of the shutdown. So congratulations to the Democrats who. What did you accomplish? Nothing. Well, no, this, the FAA still can't reopen. Their, their reduction of 6% is still in effect. They said that, you know, Sean Duffy, who is Department of Transportation secretary, he said he's going to look at it hourly but they have to make sure that they have the air traffic controllers back at work and everything is running fine. He said, we have to make sure the skies are safe. So they are going to keep this reduced. They are not going up. It was supposed to go up to 8, and then I think 10% by the weekend. And now they are. They're going to keep the 40 airports the way they are right now. So there's still going to be some problems for the next few days on flights. I got to tell you, the guy who I'm really impressed with is John Fetterman. I mean, I, I remember when he first started making sense, I was like, how is the guy with brain damage the guy who's making sense here? And I think I said before that the guy with. Explains how you become a Democrat, you know, you have to have brain damage to understand. The guy has turned into. I mean, I don't agree with his policies, but he has at least turned into an honest broker of. Of information, an honest broker of what's really going on. He calls the shots the way he sees them. I mean, he's absolutely alone. He talked about this on cnn. Do we have the audio of cnn? He was on CNN and he was talking about how much hate he gets from the left as opposed to the right. Listen to this. You said, quote, I've drunk deeply and of the venom of both the left and the right. As a connoisseur, I can confirm that the most poisonous, the bitterest, is from the far left.
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Senator John Kennedy
That is pretty remarkable to hear you.
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Glenn Beck
Say that as an elected Democrat. Why?
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Senator John Kennedy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you know, it's been. It's just been my personal experience on this thing. The difference is, I mean, the right would say really rough things and names, you know, some names I won't. I won't repeat on tv.
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Governor Greg Abbott
But, but, but the.
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Glenn Beck
On the left, it was like, they want me to die. Or that we're cheering for your next stroke or. That's terrible, that depression.
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Senator John Kennedy
Why couldn't a depression one.
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Glenn Beck
And I hope your kids find you. Gosh. And it's unfortunately true. Unfortunately true.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Not surprising, though. Are you at all surprised by that? I mean, I.
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Glenn Beck
No, she was.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Yeah. I mean, I guess you're not supposed to say that, obviously, as a Democrat. And I'd agree with you that Fetterman has been certainly better than I would have expected him to be getting when he got into office. You know, he is.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. I don't agree with his. I don't agree with his policies, but he's a guy who seems to have the same Kind of American principles that we behave a certain way, you know what I mean? And we are a country that has certain things that we just know are, we find self evident. And he seems to be that guy, kind of an old style Democrat that I'm not gonna agree with on policies, but I can at least say he doesn't hate the country. And how did that happen? Because I thought for sure he hated the country when he was running. When he was running or at least his wife hated the country.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Yeah, I don't know that's. It has been an interesting turn. He's. Because it's not just been that. He's had a couple of things that we agree with him on. There's been a couple issues he's good on. But he also has been really outspoken and taking on his own side. I don't know, maybe something like this, you know, stroke changes you. Right. Like we've talked about that with the President getting shot. Right. Like when it's, when something like that happens to you, it can be a life changing event. Maybe some of that has happened. He's just been, you know, I'm not going to sit here and, and play these games. You know, my life was threatened not that long ago.
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Glenn Beck
It's amazing, it's going to be amazing to see because you know, the left is not happy with him. And with the socialist movement growing, are they going to take him out? This is Glenn Beck out there in the wilds of the Internet. Your name, your birthday, your credit score, all your passwords, everything you touch online is out there and it's vulnerable. And somewhere out there, someone is always trying to scoop it up quietly, patiently waiting for one weak moment to slip through. And it's not just the guy sitting in the basement there. There are people in Russia that are doing this state funded. There are people all over in China. They've got a gigantic building, skyscraper full of people. This is all they do. They don't need to break into your home now. They just need to slip into your digital self and start living off your name. Leaving you to clean up all the damage. LifeLock by Norton sees the shadow differently. They watch it, they track it, they protect it. If someone uses your information, your Social Security account, your, any of your accounts, your identity, they alert you in real time and help restore what's yours step by step until you're whole again. Because when your data is your identity, guarding isn't optional. Everyone has a digital shadow. The question is, who's watching yours? LifeLock identity theft. Go there now. Call them@lifelock.com lifelock.com use the promo code BECK and you're gonna save 40%. 800 LifeLock 1 800, LifeLock or LifeLock.com promo code BECK.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. So if you take what Fetterman said yesterday about how people are cheering for him to die on the left, and then you couple it with something that was on the Joe Rogan show on Tuesday. He was saying that the reaction to the death of Charlie Kirk makes him think that the US Is closer to civil war than. Than he thought. Let me quote him. He said after the Charlie Kirk thing, I'm like, oh, my. We might be like, at seven. This might be like step seven on the way to a bonafide civil war. Charlie Kirk gets shot and people are celebrating like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You want people to die you disagree with. Where are we now on the scale of civil war? Well, let me go over the scale of civil war because it's, it's sobering now. None of this has to be true. If we wake up and decide, I don't want to do this anymore. Okay, here's step one. Step one, loss of civic trust. Every civil conflict begins when people stop believing that the system is fair. Are we there? We are so far, and we're so far past the doorway. We are comfortably asleep on the couch on this one. Gallup and Pew both show trust in Congress. Media, courts, the FBI and government are now at record lows. The Edelman Trust barometer classifies the US now as severely polarized. Majority of Republicans distrust federal elections. Majority of Democrats don't trust the Supreme Court. Americans are really united on one thing, and that is the other side is corrupt. When faith in the rules collapses, the republic begins to wobble. But that's step one. Step two, polarization hardens into identity. Political disagreement is normal. Identity conflict is fatal. But that's what Marxists push, identity politics. This is when politics stop being about policy and start being about who you are as a person. Have we crossed this one into step two? I mean, we're neck deep in this. A study on this from PRRI. It's a survey found 23% of Americans believe political violence may be necessary to save the nation. I think that's an old study. Americans now sort themselves by zip code into ideological enclaves, the big sort. Universities, activists, corporations. Everybody is promoting oppressor versus oppressed. And that what does what. It puts us into incompatible tribes. Opponents aren't wrong anymore. The opponent is dangerous. If you go back and you look at civil Wars, Lebanon before 1975, Yugoslavia before 1991, that's. We're doing that. Okay, step three, breakdown of the gatekeepers. The gatekeepers are kind of like the referees of society. It's the media, political parties, churches, civic leaders. When they fail, extremism feel fills the vacuum. Okay, so where are we on this one? Have our gatekeepers failed us? Yeah, I think both, you know, both parties, especially the left. You know, everything. I predicted that the left was going to be eaten by the extreme left, and then the communist and the socialist is now happening. They've lost control of the fringe of each party. Media transformed, you know, from referees into team coaches, tech platforms. It's. It's outrage for profit. Universities are not there to cool things down. They heat them up. Churches, Churches are useless, useless. When the referees leave the field, the game devolves into a brawl and the refs are gone off the field. So there are only nine steps. We're at step four. Here's step four. You ready for this one? Parallel information realities. Civil wars don't require different opinions. They require different realities. I remember reading about Germany at the beginning of, you know, the Nazi era, how the new two newspapers, one was propaganda for the government and the other one, it was the last one that was kind of a holdout. And they said you could read them and they would cover the same thing, but they had almost no information was the same. Except that happened yesterday. Here's what they said, and then everything else was different. That's. That's exactly. I mean, step four is complete. We can't agree on facts, right? Crime rates, border numbers, inflation, election security. Two Americans can watch the same video and see opposite truths. Social media algorithms are creating customized political universes. Digital echo chambers, deep fakes were just at the beginning of that. And both sides accused the other of running disinformation machines. Why? Because we don't have a shared reality. So if you don't have a shared reality, how do you settle any dispute on the nine steps? We're up to number five. Coming in at number five. Loss of neutral rule of law. This. Out of the nine steps, five is the pivot point. It's not corruption. It's the belief that the law no longer is neutral. Are we there yet? Let me tell you, the CBS YouGov poll, 67% say the justice system is used for political purposes. I think that's low January, six defendants given years in prison. 2020 rioters were released. High profile political figures prosecuted or shielded based on party. FBI whistleblowers alleging pressure to inflate domestic extremism numbers. States like Texas directly defining. Defying federal directives on border enforcement and now leading the way with the federal government. History is really cold and unforgiving on this point. Once the people believe justice is political, remember this is the turning point. The Republic stands on borrowed time. Once you no longer believe that justice is achievable. Step six, are we there? I think we are. Normalization of political violence. This is where violence stops shocking the system. Are we there? Remember where violence stops shocking the system. Look at the evidence just from Virginia, what they just voted for. He was calling for the death of a political opposition. Calling for his children to be killed. Was called on it. Never apologized, never said anything other than yeah, I know. He dug it deeper. Was anyone shocked by it? Apparently not. They elected him. Here's the evidence. 20, 20 riots. 574 events. $2 billion in damage. Was anybody outraged by that or was it downplayed and excused? Assassination attempts. Assassination attempts against the president. Supreme Court justice. Fist fights and mob actions on college campuses to silence speakers. Rising tolerance for punching a fascist or stopping genocide, depending on the ideology. Online chatter discussing civil war, national divorce and revolution. When violence becomes part of the political language, a nation crosses an invisible line. We're now up to step seven out of nine. This is where Joe Rogan said, are we at step seven? The rise of militias and parallel forces. When a state loses its monopoly on force, the countdown accelerates. So where, where are we on this one? I think we're seeing maybe early signs of this. You're starting to see the. The states kind of organize these mobs, you know, to go after ice. Right armed groups, right wing, left, green, left wing, radical, secessionist, anyone. Once they start forming their own police forces or their own opposition forces, then you have. Then you have everything really falling apart entirely. I don't think we're there yet, but we're starting to see the beginnings of this. Step eight, the trigger event. Civil wars don't begin with a plan. They begin with a spark. So where are we? We're not here yet either. But the conditions are, right? Potential triggers. Disputed election in 26 or 28. Political assassination or a major attack. Supreme Court decision that ignites mass unrest. Financial crisis or dollar crisis. A state federal standoff turning violent. Nothing is ignited yet, but the room is soaked in gasoline, so we don't have seven we are on the verge of eight at any time. And here's nine. This is the point of no return. When police, military or federal agencies split. Even if no one calls it that. Well, where are we? Well, I just read a story about how with the Mamdani election in New York, a good number of the police force is going to leave and they're going to go join police forces elsewhere. You also have the tension between the state National Guard and the federal directives, the state guard and the state directives. Law enforcement recruitment is at crisis lows. The distrust of the FBI, doj, CIA, tens of a million, tens of millions of Americans. I always really respected those institutions. I have no respect for them now. If you have states openly defying federal rules on immigration, drug laws, sanctuary policies, whistleblower claims of internal politicization, all of these things are in play for the first time in 150 years. People can imagine. So I give this to you not to be fearful of, but to know where you are as a map. Know where you are and hopefully it might wake some people up. If you chart America on the nine step model of civil war, steps one through four completed. Step five happening. Step six happening. Step seven beginning. Step eight just waiting for it. And step nine avoidable only if step eight never happens again. I'm not telling you for doom purposes. This is diagnosis. This is a doctor going, I want you to look at the chart. And this is a doctor saying, I want you to look at this. You see what's happening to your body. If you don't stop this habit, you are going to die. You do not have to die. You can stop smoking and drinking right now. You can start exercising. But if you don't, you are going to die. The question is, are we the nation that says, nah, it is not going to happen to me, or are we the nation that wakes up and sees our chart and goes, good heavens, it is way out of control and far more gone than I thought it was. But I feel something in the air. I'm going to change my behavior. The nation that refuses to look and wake up and stop calling their neighbors enemies is the nation that fails. We have to strengthen these things that have already fallen. And you know what? The easiest one to do is Church. Where are you ministers and pastors and priests and rabbis, where the hell are you? I think there's going to be a special section for you when you cross over to the old, because you're doing things in the name of God. So when you get to the other side, I think there's going to be a special section for those who remained silent while his rights were being taken away. You don't own that right. I don't own that right. The Lord gave us those rights and said, protect them by you being the representative, the voice box, if you will, of the Lord to shepherd his people by you not standing up and saying, hey, by the way, we have a moral responsibility to protect these rights for the next generation. By you refusing because you're afraid, because you think. There's no politics in the Bible. There's no politics in the Bible. Really, the whole thing is about politics, is about the moral way you have to live your life, calling things as you see them, calling them back to eternal principles. He didn't tell anybody how to vote. Render it on Caesar's.
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Justin Haskins
What?
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Glenn Beck
Caesar's. But there are certain principles that you have to have or you lose not only this citizenship, but the next citizenship, the one that really matters. And boy, if you are doing it because you're a coward, you are in the wrong business. Get out of the pulpit and go to work at Jack in the Box. Back in a minute. Tunnel to Tower is foundation. Every night, when you turn off the lights and lock your door, you probably don't think much about the people that make that peace possible. But somebody stood on watch so you could sleep safely. Somebody ran towards the danger everybody else ran away from. The Tunnel to Towers foundation honors those heroes. Our military, our first responders, their families. And when a service member or first responder is killed in the line of duty, Tunnel and Towers pays off their mortgage. They make sure the family has a home to go to, a place of stability when the world has just fallen apart. They also build smart homes for our most severely injured veterans, homes that restore dignity and independence. It's Tunnel to Towers who honor the people who have given everything for us. In a time when our country feels so divided, here's something that can unite us. Gratitude. Sacrifice. Honor. The Tunnel to Towers foundation doesn't just say thank you, they live it. Promise made to heroes should be a promise always kept. Never forget the sacrifices of our country's greatest heroes. Would you donate $11 a month to Tunnel to Towers? 2t.org tthenumber2t.org Freedom's worth a lot more than comfort.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Here's what I found on the web about that private conversation you just had.
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Justin Haskins
What?
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Glenn Beck
Are you uncomfortable yet? Glenn Beck is back after this.
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. The Torch is coming in January. If you would like more information about it, just sign up for our free email newsletter. We'll be making some announcements soon and you'll be the first to know. You just go to glenn beck.com and sign up. Also, I asked you yesterday, you know, we're working on George AI and the show is changing next year to some degree. We're going to be adding a lot of extra things. We're going to be going much, much deeper. And if you want to learn something about history, you want us to go deeper on something, I would love for you to tell me about it. Just go write an email to thetorchglenbeck.com tell us the things you're struggling, struggling with. Tell me the things you would love to learn from history, the founders, and the things that you'd like to have a really in depth look at. Because that's what the Torch is going to be all about. So just write to us@the torchglenbeck.com coming in January. All right, let me talk to you. When a woman walks into a preborn clinic, she usually is caring more than fear. She's carrying a story. Maybe she's been told. She's all alone. Nobody's going to help her. There's only one way out and that is abortion. That the baby she's carrying is going to ruin her life. And in that moment, everything feels dark. And then she walks into a preborn clinic and she meets somebody who actually cares, somebody who listens, somebody who shows her the truth. Not with arguments, but with a picture. The real image of her baby and sound. A heartbeat, a future. That's what preborn does. And they, they connect mom with the child. Okay? But then also they help that mom for the first two years of the child's life when she feels so alone, she's not. Please, if you can help out, would you just dial £250 and say the keyword baby. Make a donation, it's £250 keyword baby. Or go to Preborn.com Glenn. That's Preborn.com Glenn. All gifts are tax deductible and Preborn is a five star rated charity.
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Senator John Kennedy
It.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Down the road where shadows hide Feel.
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Glenn Beck
The dark on every side Stand your.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Ground when times get dark Got to.
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Senator John Kennedy
Face the dog and embrace the fire.
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Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. You know, if I was a betting man, and I'm not, I would only bet on one of two states to really be able to stand whatever is coming our way. And I would those two states would be be Florida and Texas. Texas is the strongest in business. Texas is just not going to sit down unless they forget their Texas. And Florida has just found what it means to be a free state. Unless they forget. But these two states are the strongest in the nation and Texas just keeps pummeling all other states. I think it's 75% of all jobs created in a recession in 2008 were, were created in Texas because they're free and they get it. The governor of the state has just announced that he's running for governor and running again for governor and is going to take on this time property tax. It is an an out of control problem in Texas. Property tax not a state issue. It's a local issue. We're going to talk to the governor. It's his birthday. We're going to talk to him in 60 seconds. First let me talk to you a little bit About Cozy Earth. The world doesn't exactly feel relaxed these days. We're constantly plugged in, scrolling, thinking, worrying. You wonder why we can't unwind, we can't sleep. Sometimes peace isn't found in a place, it's found in a feeling. And that's what home is all about, right? A cozy home. Well, Cozy Earth creates that cozy home with you. Everything they make from their ultra soft sheets to their new bubble cuddle blanket which is, trust me guys, you don't know what to get your wife for Christmas. Get this blanket. It's designed to help you her let go, breathe deep and finally feel still for a minute. The bubble cuddle blanket is a whole new level of comfort. It's got that luxurious weight to smooth texture. Really really soft. It's kind of that everything is okay kind of warmth that you didn't even know you missed. And it's made with the same premium temperature regulating fabric that they put on all Cozy Earth which makes it Oprah's one of her favorite things 5 years in a row. Quick run out. Oprah loves it. I want you to go to cozyearth.com and see what they have. Great Christmas gifts. Cozyearth.com Beckham make sure you use the promo code beck and save cozyearth.com Beck promo code Beck. Governor Greg Abbott, welcome to the program. How are you Governor?
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Governor Greg Abbott
Hey, I'm doing great. How you doing?
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Glenn Beck
I'm good. It's not my birthday. And you are, you are a brilliant man and I wish I would have thought of this. It's your birthday today and you married a woman who has the same birthday so you never forget her birthday. Brilliant.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Yeah. Very simple. I wanted to make sure I married a wife that whose birthday I would never forget. But of course she would tell you she's much younger than I am.
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Glenn Beck
Well, welcome to the program. We're glad you're here. Let's, let's stop. Let's start talking about property taxes in Texas. They're out of control. And I know people who were born and bred in Texas and they said the same thing. Politicians always talk about changing property tax and it's never done. So why is this promise from you different?
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Governor Greg Abbott
So I will tell you about the five solutions that I have announced in my re election campaign. But before that, to discuss it appropriately, I need to set it up correctly. And that is very important for listeners to understand in the state of Texas and that is the state does not impose property taxes. Property taxes in Texas are imposed only by local jurisdictions that could be Schools, cities, counties, other local taxing jurisdictions. Even though the state doesn't oppose a property tax, and hence in the legislature, we can't go in and say, well, we're going to cut this property tax. What we have done is we have used state money to try to buy down the local property taxes, especially the school district property taxes. This last session that we just completed earlier this year, we used $51 billion of state money, which is a quarter of all of our state funds, to buy down property tax rates. And when Texans open up their property tax bill this next time, they are going to see the property taxes have decreased. However, Glenn, this is the problem because this is what we've been dealing with year after year. And that is even though we are able to buy down property tax rates, the local taxing jurisdictions go behind our back and they start pumping up those property taxes again. And so the benefit that we provide to our taxpayers is. So I have four or five solutions to make sure we are going to put an end to the skyrocketing local property taxes. Number one, there's only one reason why property taxes would go up in the first place, and that's because of out of control spending at the local level. And the state of Texas has four constitutional limitations on our ability to increase spending. Local governments don't have that. Local governments have to live within their means, just like families and just like the state has to live with our means. And so we want to impose spending limits on local government that are common sense to make sure that they are not spending in a way that increases property taxes.
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Glenn Beck
Second, like what is, what does that mean? What are the spend? How do you make a spending limit?
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Governor Greg Abbott
Well, for example, in the state of Texas, one of our constitutional spending limits is our spending cannot increase more than the aggregation of population growth and inflation or 3%, whichever is the lowest. And so in other words, if your population is growing a whole lot, obviously you got to spend more on roads and different things like that. Or if inflation is going through the roof, you've got to find a way to keep up with that so you can buy the appropriate food, all that kind of stuff. But you know, to be honest, population and inflation growth only aggregates about 3% a year. So that's one of the ways. Another thing I'll tell you, and that is in Austin, Texas, which is one of the worst offenders in the state of Texas, their population growth has been roughly flat for the past 10 years. And despite that fact that property taxes have increased almost double in that time period and so clearly, Austin is spending far in excess of population growth plus inflation. And we see that in exactly so many cities across the state. Another thing that has to be done on the spending side is to stop the deficit spending. The state cannot go into a deficit, and actually, we have the largest budget surplus of any city in the United States. But local taxing authorities sometimes increase property taxes to take care of deficits, and that means they have a spending problem, and that has been corrected. So that's item number one. Item number two is that no property tax should ever be increased without it being voted on by the public and require a two thirds vote to approve it. That alone. Yeah. So hardly any. Hardly any taxes would be increased. It requires a two thirds vote of all the people who are going to be voting on that. Another thing is to put the power in the hands of the people to slash their own property taxes. If 15% of residents petition to put on the ballot a property tax rate rollback, they will get to vote on reducing their own property tax rates in that jurisdiction so they can slash.
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Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh, that's good.
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Governor Greg Abbott
And then one thing that's kind of frightening to Texans is whenever they get their property appraisal bill, the property appraisals just skyrockets year after year after year. And they fear even opening up that bill in the first place. And the way that it works in Texas is the property appraisal that you get is done frequently and it is allowed to increase 10% a year. And that means that your. The valuation on which your property is going to be taxed goes through the roof. And that is one of the key drivers that makes having a home and owning a home less affordable in Texas. I want to change that to have the appraisal done only once every five years, and to put an annual cap on that, reduce it from a 10% increase to no more than a 3% increase per year. And then the last thing.
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Glenn Beck
Go ahead. No, the last thing.
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Governor Greg Abbott
The last thing is every year that I've been governor, we have had the public vote on constitutional amendments concerning property taxes, but never before have we offered up what I'm about to tell you, which would be the one that would really curtail it. In Texas, the largest part of your property tax is the school district property tax. And what we want to do for homeowners who have a homestead in the state of Texas is to allow them to vote on a constitutional amendment that would ban a school district property tax for homesteads in Texas.
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Glenn Beck
Meaning what, exactly?
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Governor Greg Abbott
That if you're Meaning that the. The largest part of your property tax bill, which is about two thirds of it, is school districts. People have a homestead in Texas, would never again pay a property tax on the school district property tax bill.
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Glenn Beck
Who's paying the bill then? For the school? The state.
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Governor Greg Abbott
The state? Yeah. The state would pick up that cost. So we went to be here. Yeah. We would have to fund education. The state of Texas would fully pay for that cost.
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Glenn Beck
Wow. Can I ask you something? Do you find, in principle, I think property tax is the most immoral tax we have. With a property tax, one never truly owns their land. And that's. I mean, that is the American dream, to be able to own your own piece of land. With a property tax, you don't own it, you're renting it from the local government or the state or whoever is imposing that tax, and it's just not right. Do you agree with that or not?
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Governor Greg Abbott
Well, of course. And what these solutions do, it returns the power to the homeowner to be able to control their own property tax and to slash it left and right and to feel like for once they're finally able to live within their own home and own it without being burdened by the state or local government.
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Glenn Beck
Are you going to be able to get this through the House and the Senate?
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Governor Greg Abbott
So, you know, this is such common sense, Glenn, you would think that we would. I will tell you there's opposition to some of these elements in both the House and Senate. But I'll tell you something else. I don't know if you follow what I'm about to tell you, and that is this last session I was able to finally push and get across the finish line, school choice in the state of Texas. I want you to know that every year that I've been governor, I sought to get school choice passed. And then session two years ago, I tried to get it passed and we didn't get it done in a regular session. I called four special sessions to get school choice passed, and it never passed. But the last one, I said, listen, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. The easy way. You guys just go ahead and vote on school choice. If you don't vote on school choice, I'm going to go to the campaign, fail, and I'm going to win this issue at the ballot box and we will defeat anybody who does not support school choice. I'm using that same methodology to make sure that we get this property tax reform passed. There are people who are both Republicans and Democrats who are going to push back about some of these elements I just told you about. All of these elements are needed if we're going to have lasting property tax relief. And hence I'm on the campaign trail already. I was in town Texas yesterday. I'm going to be in Temple Texas today. I'm going to be crisscrossing the state to make sure that we are getting the buy in support that's going to be needed when we get into the next session that we're finally going to enact the measures that are necessary to ensure homeowners can genuinely live in their own home and without being taxed out of their own property.
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Glenn Beck
I think it's fabulous. Governor, thank you very much. Good luck to you. We'll, we'll talk again. Governor Greg Abbott from the great state of Texas. All right. More in just a second. Let me tell you about real estate agents. I trust dot com. I have to tell you, you know, Ron DeSantis is pushing now. No property tax here in Florida. I've not seen his plan yet. That seems like a workable plan. But the property taxes in Texas are just outrageous. Just outrageous and kind of just kind of holds you hostage all the time. I want to talk to you about buying and selling homes because I just sold my home in Texas, just bought a home here in Florida. And I will tell you, the right real estate agent makes all the difference in the world. I tried to sell my house, I don't know, four or five years ago and just couldn't do it. This time. I didn't have a real estate agent from real estate agents I trust.com this time before I put my house up on the market, I said to the guy who's running real estate agents, I said, could you find a guy, you know, that would represent my house in this area? Because we didn't have anybody. And he's like, well, I'll try. So we found somebody. His name is Brad Cook and we vetted him. He's part of the network now. Now I said to him in August, I said, look, here's my goal. Have it done by November 1st. I just like to have it closed and done by November 1st. He's like, okay, we'll do everything we can. He was on us every single day. We never had to question where we were. And we closed October 31st. Realestate agentsitrust.com when you're looking for somebody that will do what you're asking them to do and they know the market, they know how to sell your home, find that real estate agent@realestateagentsitrust.com it is a free service to you. This is my company. Realestate agentsitrust.com 10 seconds, back to the show. What do you think of those five points, Stu, for property tax?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
As someone who has to pay property tax in Texas, I like them quite a bit. That would be great, especially as a person who's also paying for a separate school. The idea of not paying the school tax. And I know he had to, he was on a tight window there. Gregabbott.com if you want more information about the campaign, but I'm curious as to how the state pays if we get rid of all those local taxes for the schools. He mentioned the state would pick up the cost like, and I know he's not talking about an income tax, that there's no income tax here, which is why, you know, the property taxes are on the higher side. But I would make that trade. I'm fine with that trade. But I'd love to get them lower to non existent. You know, I'd say that the problem.
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Glenn Beck
Is when, you know, it's your neighbors, honestly, that go to the ballot box and they'll vote in Texas, I'm not kidding you, for a high school stadium, $80 million. Okay. In fact, so nice. The Dallas Cowboys will practice there. Okay. And I mean, it just never ends. And you're, you're like to the, everybody in your neighborhood, you're like, what are you, what are you doing? Oh, man, it's going to be great to have this. You know you're paying for it, right? They just, I don't know why they don't connect that with their property tax because then they immediately about their property tax and you're like, yeah, you are the one who voted for the $80 million high school stadium. What's wrong with you? But I like, I think he solves that by the debt issue because it always happens. People will always vote for. Do you want, do you want this in the neighborhood? Yeah, I like that idea.
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Justin Haskins
Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
They never tie it.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's such a tough one because everyone likes new things. You know, people like it when you build new fancy buildings and facilities in the town and they almost always pass.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Always.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's fascinating. Then of course, you're right. They just complain about the taxes. This doesn't even go into the fact that stadium's different. But a lot of times these are building businesses essentially that are competitors to actual businesses in the community.
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Glenn Beck
Is that happening all over the country or is that just a Texas thing?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
I think that's happening all over the country. If you have a rec center that has a gym facility that they're offering memberships in your town, this is happening in your town where someone who has built a gym business, they've spent the money and they're trying to market it and now they are competing with a government sponsored business that is paying for the business with taxpayer dollars.
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Glenn Beck
Even their competitors.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Taxpayer dollars.
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Glenn Beck
Why is it we don't see that? I mean, we know government grocery stores in New York, bad idea.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's a great point.
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Glenn Beck
Why don't we know that about this? I mean, I guess because, I guess because they, you know, in Texas at least they'll make it work. And so it just doesn't spiral out of control and then just be a crap hole that has to close down. So I guess maybe it's like, well, this was really, really better. Yeah, but the principle is wrong. The principle. You're putting other people out of work. You're taking the entrepreneurial spirit and just crushing it.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Yeah, basically. I just don't think people think about it, honestly. I think people like that their community is maybe a little bit of a better place and they don't mind dabbling into what is essentially socialism. I mean it really is a dabble into socialism when you do things like that. And most of the time I think people just, you know, it's, this is an accepted part of small town or mid city life, right, like where you just do these things and the government does provide certain facilities that we all, you know, just are okay with. And you know, some, like a library is an example of this in an extreme example where like, you know, like, hey, your tax dollars are going to pay for a bookstore where all the books are free. Like, what does that mean to someone who wants to open a bookstore? Like there's a, well, there's a difference.
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Glenn Beck
I mean the library, I think, you know, you know, most, a lot of our libraries were started by, you know, one of the robber barons, Carnegie, and he built these, these beautiful libraries all over the country. Small towns, big towns, all over the country. Because he said that is the key to getting someplace. That's the key to not being a slave. And I want to make sure that every, every poor child has access to what he called then a king's library. Every book that is in the king's library should be in every hometown. And so he paid for it. I think that's fabulous.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
And that is the case in some situations. But I mean, you know, it's the same Same argument they make with the gym. They're like, oh, well, this is healthy for the community. People need to have access to be able to go exercise. Like, there's always an. There's always a difference. Always an argument, right? But the principle, a lot of times just to get gets left behind.
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Glenn Beck
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
The torch is going to be covering history. What should they cover? Email your suggestions thetorchglenback.com.
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I don't know if you saw the number one song on the Billboard music charts. I want to talk about this in depth tomorrow. But it is number one on the country music Billboard charts. I want you to listen to it. Go ahead then beat down but I don't stay low.
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Senator John Kennedy
Got mud on my jeans still ready to go.
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Glenn Beck
Every scars a story that I survived. I've been through hell but I'm still alive. They said slow down boy, don't go too fast.
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Senator John Kennedy
But I ain't never been one to.
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Glenn Beck
Live in the past.
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Senator John Kennedy
I keep moving forward, never looking back.
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Glenn Beck
With a worn out hat and a six string strand you can kick rocks if you don't like how I talk.
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Senator John Kennedy
I'm gonna keep keep on talking and walk my walk.
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Glenn Beck
Ain't changing my tone, ain't changing my song. I was born this way, been loud too long. You can hate my style, you can roll your eyes but I ain't slowing down. I Was born to rise so kick them rocks if you don't like how I talk I'm gonna keep on talking and walk my wall okay, so the interesting thing about this song is that guy who's singing that was. Has not been talking for a long time. He has not been walking for a long time even. In fact, he was not born long ago. He's not real. That's A.I. the number one song on the Billboard country music chart is a. I. AI, I. I have to tell you, some of my favorite music is coming from AI right now, and I don't know how to feel about it. You know, we just. It wasn't too long ago that we thought, oh, well, it's never going to be able to do that. It can't do. You know, art is the music. Art is the window to the soul. How. How is AI if you look at some of the lyrics of this song, it. I mean, it talks about how he's been dragged through the mud. He's, you know, had to really stand. I mean, it doesn't know any of that stuff. None of it is real. And yet it is assembling it in a way that is so appealing. It's number one on the Billboard country music chart, if that. And this is what I want to focus tomorrow. I want to talk to you about college. And what are you telling your kids about college? What are you doing if you're in college? What are you doing if you're thinking about college? What are you thinking? Because the whole world is about to change. You know, I just heard Elon Musk say that in five years, there's not going to be phones or apps. I mean, think. I want you to think about this. There won't be phones or apps. It will just be some sort of a box or device that you kind of carry around with you. And it's listening. It's. It's anticipating its AI it's an agent AI and it will know what you want to hear, what you want. And it will create the music you want to hear. It will create the podcast you want to hear. It will do all of this stuff for you. So we will be even in our own universe, even more than we are right now. But if. If AI can fake being a human and sing soulfully while not having a soul, what does it mean to be a human? I have been asking this question and been saying, Stu, since the 90s. I have been saying we have to have a conversation on what. What does it mean to be human? What does it mean to Be alive. Because there's going to come a time when you won't know what it means. Are we there yet, Stu?
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Justin Haskins
Are we there?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's a good question. I mean, I think we know what it means to be human, but I think the ways that we have shorthanded that over the years are dissolving. Right. Like, you know, when you come up with what seems like original thought, we might all be able to acknowledge that something that AI churns out is not an original thought. But it certainly seems like it to most. And I think a lot of people don't care. Like, people won't care if it is made by humans or not, if they like it and they seem to like it. And while there will, I think, be a real pushback by some against this stuff, just like, you know, I have a bunch of friends who are into the horror movie practical effects world, where they are like, I like going. That's why I like to watch horror movies, because they use real fake blood or whatever.
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Glenn Beck
The.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's a weird dedication. It's not my thing. I don't care. You know, when I go to a movie, if it's CGI and it looks real, I don't care. But they love the fact that it's being made by practical effects. And if that's. There will always be some interest in that. I think there will always be some interest in watching someone doing something manually that a machine could do easier and some ways better. But, like, it becomes niche after a while, doesn't it?
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. Handmade is going to come back into style at some point. Handmade, human made will come back into style. But. But we're going to go through a period where it's going to get really scary. Because, I mean, if a machine can sing soulfully and not have a soul, what does that mean? If it can sculpt beauty, generate things that can make you cry. But how does it know how? It doesn't have anything real inside of it. If it can imitate genius, then what is our genius? What does that mean? Let me start this conversation. We're going to go into this more on tomorrow's program. But let me just start this with. When you start to ask yourself, what does it mean to be a human? A machine can produce and it can produce and will produce better than you can, but it cannot care. It cannot actually care. It can calculate, but it cannot love. A machine can imitate suffering, it can relate to suffering. It can sing songs soulfully like it is suffered, but it can never walk through the Valley of suffering. It can analyze morality, but it can't instinctively choose right and wrong because it's serving a higher power. It has no conscience. It has no courage. It has no soul. It will never put itself between danger and a child. It will never forgive because it's never really offended. It will never sacrifice. It will never bury a friend and carry that little piece of grief with them for the rest of their lives. There's something different about humans, and it is not about what we can do. It is everything about the divine spark. Only humans can look at something and say, damn it, I know all the odds are against me, all reason goes against this, but I am going to build it instead. I am going to rebuild. Only humans hear the call from deep within the the whispering of the spirit or the ancient whispers the machines will never hear, saying, live for something greater than yourself. There is something more out there. Only humans can take suffering and learn compassion. Only humans can take fear and turn it into courage and bravery. Only humans can take history and turn it into real wisdom. We are making artificial minds, but we are not making artificial life. But as these artificial minds begin to get better and better and their tools become better and better, it should not make us smaller. It should make us ask bigger questions. Who am I? Why am I here? What is the purpose of life? The questions that man has been asking since the dawn of time. What am I willing to endure for the sake of truth? What am I willing to stand up for? What is worth living for? What is worth dying for? What is the purpose of the freedom that I have right now? Is there a purpose? What's the spark inside of me that no machine will ever be able to copy, no algorithm can simulate, no code can counterfeit what makes me unique. That answer is going to be found in each of us, in each of our hearts. And it's this weird, mysterious furnace where reason meets faith and memory becomes meaning. And the divine echoes inside of us, reminding us that we are individuals, that we are here for a purpose, that we can be forgiven. We can get stronger. We can rebuild. We can forget everything the world is saying and chart our own course. That's what makes us humans. And machines will not understand that being human isn't what we can produce, because you are going to see, it is producing everything. It is about what we can choose. We can choose to love. We can choose to sacrifice. We can choose to tell the truth. We can choose to stand when the world bows. We can choose to create. Not because we are told to create, not because we make Money to create, but because there is something inside us that is so restless until we do create. A lot of people don't know that I paint. I'm an artist. I don't paint for anybody else. I don't paint to sell my paintings. I don't. I don't. I paint because there's something inside of me that compels me to do it, that is human. It can reproduce my brush strokes and make them better. It can borrow our melodies, it can echo our stories. But. But it cannot replace the things that make us human. The ability to forge meaning out of all of the things that we have suffered through. The age of machines is rising. And it is going to diminish us if we don't figure out who we are and what our purpose is. What is that stirring inside of me? You may not find it, but recognize that stirring inside of you. And if it's not, you're already starting to lose your humanity. It doesn't have to diminish us. It can refine us. It can remind us who we truly are. It can urge us find that. Because I'm coming to replace everything else. What makes us us, we're human. And that itself is a miracle that a machine cannot recreate. Let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. 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Governor Greg Abbott
Hey, Glenn. Yeah, I was calling in, I heard you talking earlier about, you know, the outrageous taxes in Texas. And I'm over in El Paso in the El Paso Independent School District. And I, they about, you want to talk about taxes and corruption. They take 43% of our taxes, 20, 42 to 43%, and they spend it like crazy. I mean, you're talking about what, 80 million on a, on a school stadium.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, that.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Right.
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Senator John Kennedy
Okay.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Yeah, they got a, they got a bond passed a few years back in that district, three quarters of a billion dollars to primarily rebuild one school. They, and they are, they're, they're over budget. They're still not done, last I checked. And in the meantime, they're also, no longer, they, they're behind, they're, they're in deficit, I guess you'd say. And then, and they are starting to sell off other schools in the district and closing them down because, because they're, they're in debt. They, they don't have any money, but yet they keep raising. And as soon as, as soon as. Well, you know, yeah, as soon as, as soon as it came out that, you know, the Abbott was going to start cutting our, you know, cutting back on taxes and trying to get, you know, help us out tax wise. Basically the county and the school districts all went, oh, wait a minute. They're used to paying this amount anyway.
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Senator John Kennedy
So we're just going to raise the.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Rates so that way they still pay the same amount or more.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. I gotta tell you, these, these towns, you know, are really out of control. A lot of them in Texas, however, remember that it is your neighbors. It's not the politicians. Your neighbors voted for that bond bill. I don't know, I don't know how they don't. My neighbors, they voted to build a $13 million firehouse. $13 million for a firehouse. The thing has like a Starbucks in it for the fire. I mean, it is, I mean, it is world class. And they open it up for people in the neighborhood to go see it. And I'm standing there with my neighbors and they're like, this is great. And I said, this is great. This is nicer. Than any of our houses. This is nicer. And you bought it. And the reason why we built this is because the firemen burned down the last firehouse by leaving the stove on while they left to go fight a fire. What is wrong with you? This is Glenn Beck. Every castle has its defenders. Some wear armor, some standards watch. And some, I mean, carry a sprayer and know exactly where the enemy hides. That's Moxie Pest Control. It's your home's quiet defense. They're trained, licensed technician. They don't just show up and spray. They strategize strategy, strategize. They stutter. They study the patterns. They find the breaches where the bugs are getting in. They cut it off before the invasion can even begin. And every application is very precise. It's measured and designed to last long after they've left. And if there's a problem, they come back. This isn't some harsh chemical blitz. Moxi uses targeted family safe treatments that hit the bugs hard while keeping your home safe for your kids and your pets. It's protection you can trust because you know it's working even when you can't see it. The result is peace of mind that you feel every time you walk in the door or you turn on a light and you don't see anything skitter underneath the refrigerator. This place is mine and it is guarded. Moxie Pest control. Moxie Pest control. Go to moxyservices.com beck@25 for your first visit. It's moxyservices.com Beck. Use the promo code. Beck and save.
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Senator John Kennedy
Sam.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Down the road where shadows hide.
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Glenn Beck
Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get down.
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Senator John Kennedy
Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire.
- [87:32]
Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. I'm gonna reintroduce you because you've heard this man before. I'm gonna reintroduce you to one of my favorite people on the entire world, on the entire planet. Because he has said things like, I believe we're gonna have to get some new conspiracy theories because all the old ones turned out to be true. Or I have a right to remain silent. But I don't think I have the ability. I believe our country was founded by geniuses, but it's being run by idiots. Always be yourself. Unless you suck. And this one might give it away on who it is. I'm not gonna bubble wrap it. The water in Washington D.C. won't clear up until you get the pigs out of the creek. My favorite, favorite, most entertaining senator John Kennedy joins me to talk about the shutdown. If we have time, I want to talk to him about the getting rid of the. Oh, shoot, Stu. Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Filibuster. What are they? Filibuster. Getting rid of the filibuster. And he has a new book, how to Test Negative for Stupid and why Washington Never Will. It's coming up in just a second. John Kennedy joins me. First, let me tell you about Preborn. There's some stories that you'll never hear. Lives that could have been, songs never sung, futures never written. But every time a woman chooses life, one of those stories gets to begin. And that story, her story, can change everything that comes after. Preborn makes it all possible. They partner with clinics all across America to provide free ultrasounds. And that gives mom something priceless, a moment of clarity, of connection, of courage. It's not about pressure, it's about possibilities and the kind of hope that rewrites a future before it's even started. When a child is given a chance to live, that decision will echo through generations of time. That's a life that'll touch other lives in ways none of us can measure. It's preborn. They stand in that space where compassion meets truth and hope becomes real. Because when one life is saved, the world gets a little better. If you're thinking about a year end gift, consider the greatest investment I think you'll ever make. A gift of Life. Dial pound250 and say the keyword baby. That's pound250, keyword baby or visit preborn.combeck preborn.com Beck all gifts are tax deductible and Preborn is a five star rated charity sponsored by preborn Senator John Kennedy. How good to have you on, sir.
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Senator John Kennedy
Glenn, it's good to be with you, man. Thanks for having me.
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Glenn Beck
I want to talk to you about your new book, which I can't wait. But let's start with. Let's start with the reopening of the government. I think this is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. We're only reopening until January. They're going to do this again, are they not?
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Senator John Kennedy
Yeah, maybe. Maybe they learned a lesson. I mean, here's what happened, Glenn. What? Seven weeks ago, the country was just rocking along, minding its own business. Our budget was about to run out, but we were talking with Democrats about negotiating a new one. And all of a sudden, at the last minute, Senator Schumer came to us and said, I'm going to stop negotiating. I'M going to tell my people to vote to shut government down unless you give me $1.5 trillion. You gut the one big beautiful bill like a fish, and you extend the Obamacare subsidies. Well, I mean, you know, I'd rather, I'd rather have a back alley colonoscopy than vote for something like that. And, and my, my colleagues felt the same way. So we, we told Chuck, said Chuck, short answers, no. Long answer is hell no. And Chuck just, I mean, his demands, Glenn, you had to have a, you had to have an Excel spreadsheet to track them. It was so unserious. And so we just sat there and we didn't give up anything. And eventually he had to go to five or six of his colleagues to get him, to bail him out. And that's why we are.
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Glenn Beck
Was this, was this just about election? Was this just about the election? What was this for?
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Senator John Kennedy
Oh, it was politics. It has to do with Senator Schumer's politics. The, the Bolshevik wing, the moon wing of his party. He's scared of them. He should be, instead of, instead of standing up to them. I think his testicles are on back order from China because he just wanted them, he just wanted them to love him. They don't love him. They're never going to love him. Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez is either going to, if the Democrats take over the House, she's either going to be the new, new speaker or she's going to run against Schumer or she's going to run for president. And her wing of the party, the Bolshevik wing, is in control. That's what's going on.
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Glenn Beck
What do you think of John Fetterman?
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Senator John Kennedy
I really like John. He, his, his health has gotten a lot better. He, I sort of, he's a little bit like me. He, we don't agree on politics, but he plays outside the pocket. He says what he thinks. He's very popular in Pennsylvania now. He's not popular among the loon wing of his party. And so he could have problems in a primary, but statewide, people find him, as I do, refreshing.
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Glenn Beck
Let me just tick off a couple of other things here real quick. Filibuster. I just, I just talked to the White House this week and they're dead serious about getting rid of the filibuster. And I said, you know, maybe reform it, maybe go back to the way it was, but please, let's not get rid of the speed bump of the filibuster. And they are convinced that we'll never get anything passed and the comment was these people that we're working against are completely unserious. They don't want the same kind of America. How do we get anything passed when they are roadblocking absolutely everything? How do you respond to that?
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Senator John Kennedy
Well, I talked to the president, I don't know, last week. I mean, he's dug in like a tick. He's. I like the filibuster. When I got to the Senate, Glenn, I didn't. But it I finally learned that the role of a senator is really twofold. Of course, it's to advance good ideas, but it's also to kill bad ideas. And we killed a lot of bad ideas with the filibuster. I know when, when Joe Biden was president, my preference and I've been encouraging Senator phone who who I don't think he agrees with me. But we did, we passed the one big beautiful bill without a single Democratic vote. And it's a marvelous bill and we did it through reconciliation, about which you, you know, and we can do two more reconciliation bills and for seven weeks, eight weeks, couple months, we've done nothing in the Senate. We need to get up off our ice cold, lazy butts and go pass another reconciliation bill that addresses the cost of housing and the cost of health insurance and the cost of living, the things that moms and dads are worried about when they lie down to sleep at night and can. But I don't, I don't sense that the president's going to give up on it right now. I can tell you if, if Thune brought it up for a vote among the Republicans, it wouldn't pass.
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Glenn Beck
It would not pass. How do you feel about the Supreme Court? Where are they going to come down on these tariffs and the role of the Senate?
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Senator John Kennedy
Well, I don't know how they're going to come down. I listened to the oral argument. I didn't go over there, but I could get it by audio. And they asked the questions I thought they would the president is arguing that he's construing the statute. I this is a foreign policy decision. And traditionally the US Supreme Court does not interfere with the executive branch when it is addressing foreign policy. The questions from the justices, with the exception of a couple, seem to be long lines of well, why is it really foreign policy and the statute is plain and it doesn't mention tariffs. But I learned long ago you never predict what the court's going to do based on oral argument. They'll fool you.
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Glenn Beck
What do you think the right thing is?
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Senator John Kennedy
You know, I've got real, I don't know, I've got really mixed feelings about tariffs. There's no question the President is right, that for years and years and years other countries have taken advantage of America, particularly China. We admitted China to the World Trade Organization. I think it was December 9, 2001. China started cheating December 10. And I like the idea of reining them in through tariffs. If I had my druthers, here's what I would propose. I don't think the President would agree with me, but I would go to every one of these countries and say, here's the deal. If you reduce your tariffs to zero, America will reduce its tariffs to zero. And then we'll let our companies compete on a level playing field and made the best product at the best price win. And I think America win that fight. Now, the President, I can tell you, I've talked to him, he doesn't see it that way.
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Glenn Beck
No, he doesn't. We're talking to Senator John Kennedy. He, he is one of my favorite senators. And I think you've been, if you've been listening the last couple of minutes, you know why graduated Vanderbilt University, University of Virginia and Oxford, that I would have paid money to see you at Oxford. That had to be entertaining for all involved. We're going to come back and I'm going to take one minute break and then we're going to talk to him about his new book, how to Test Negative for Stupid. It's coming up in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Legacy Box. Remember that one tape, that Christmas from your past, from your childhood and you haven't seen that in a very, very long time. I want you to dig that tape out and I want you to send it to Legacy Box. Here's what I want you to do. I want you to go to legacybox.com records right now, legacybox.com records and they will make this possible to be able to see that Christmas and watch it with your family this Christmas, okay? They have helped more than a million families preserve their weddings, vacations. The holiday memories. And the turnaround time is really, really fast now. Just three to five days right now. So if you want to get your, your family something really great for Christmas, go dig up some old memories and some old tapes that you haven't seen ever, maybe or since your VCR went out and send it to them in three to five days. You will have it and you'll have the original back. Do it right now. Get your digitized memories by christmas@legacybox.com records that's legacybox.com records 10 seconds. And back to John Kennedy. He's just written a new book called how to Test Negative for Stupid and why Washington Never Will. Senator, tell me about the book.
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Senator John Kennedy
Well, thanks for asking, Glenn. It's a, it's not a policy book per se. It's a storybook. I use stories to make my points about policy. Some of the stories are funny, some are bizarre. They're all true. I talk about.
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Glenn Beck
Wait, wait, what do you mean? What do you mean some of them are bizarre? What does that mean?
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Senator John Kennedy
Well, they're just strange to see the Senate, what it's like on the inside. And I don't just talk about the Senate. I talk about my meeting with the one and only meeting. I was one of the few senators who met for any length of time with Senator Joe Biden. That was bizarre. And it was early in his term. He showed me around the office. Well, he, I remember we talked for a while, steps trying to get rid of me. We were there for a bill signing. He asked me to ask me if I'd seen his Cabinet room. And I said, no, I had seen it, but I said, no, sir. And so he said, I'm going to take you over there, and it's maybe 20 yards away and you could have baked a Thanksgiving turkey in the time that it took him to walk from, from his oval over, over to the cat. And I remember thinking at the time, this, this gentleman has reached the point in life where all he wants to do is sit around and talk about the old days and tell stories, and when he gets tired, he just wants soup in an early bedtime. And this was his first year. Nice guy, very affable. I wouldn't call him a policymaker. The people around him were running, running the country. But I just thought the whole thing was bizarre.
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Glenn Beck
But you don't believe, you don't believe. You don't believe them at all that they didn't know. Right? I mean, there was no way to be. I mean, we saw it from a distance.
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Senator John Kennedy
I mean, of course they knew. I mean, I listened to him. So I know. No idea. You know, and, and I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'll take exquisitely dumb for 500. Of course you knew. You know, you had, you had to know. You could see it. And this was in his first year. The president clearly had the beginnings again in the first year of his presidency of neurodegenerative disease. I mean, we all, it happens to us, to many people at that age. And he wouldn't have made it through a second term. I'm sorry. He wouldn't have.
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Glenn Beck
Can I ask you something? Who did you grow up with? My. When I grew up, I tell stories in the way my grandfather used to tell stories. I remember sitting at his feet and he would just tell stories. You have such a unique way of telling stories and all of these phrases that just pop into your head. Where did you get that? Is that what. Is that what life is like? Where did you grow up? You grew up in Zachary, Louisiana? Is that.
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Senator John Kennedy
Yeah, Little bitty.
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Glenn Beck
Is that what it's like there?
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Senator John Kennedy
Yeah.
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Justin Haskins
Yeah.
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Senator John Kennedy
When I grew up, it's much bigger now because of the schools are so good. But when I grew up, it was about 3,000 people. We didn't have a town drunk. We were that small. Several people had to take turns. Everybody knew everybody. You didn't lie. I loved high school. I cared about. I'd go back in a second. I cared about two things, Glenn. I cared about basketball and I cared about cheerleaders. And I wasn't very good at either one, but man, it was so much fun trying. But I learned a lot growing up in sackcloth. I went away to school for about, I don't know, 10 years, as long as I could, could stay in school and then. Then came back home.
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Glenn Beck
What was it like at Oxford? You had to be just this bizarre something that nobody could figure out over there.
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Senator John Kennedy
Well, the kid, it took him a while to learn how to learn my speech patterns. And I realize that, you know, my voice sets off car alarms, but that's just my voice and my accent. But Oxford was an extraordinary experience. It's the greatest university in the world. It's the smartest kids in the world. And I wanted to, to. I wanted to understand what it was like to compete with the best. And I remember my, my, the kid that lived next door to me in the dorm, actually in the college when I first went in to see Scene the first day I was there, he was. He had a book on his. His bed. And I have asked, actually asked him to turn down the stereo. And I said, what are you doing, man? And he was like 18 years old, big, bushy, red hair, acne. And he said, I'm teaching myself Mandarin. And I said, you speak any other languages? And he named five or six. And I mean, I'm thinking this kid can spot me about 60 IQ points. But that's why I came, just to compete with. See what it's like. But it was. I liked it.
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Glenn Beck
The name of the book is how to test negative for stupid. And why Washington never, never will. Is there any hope that they'll ever test negative?
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Senator John Kennedy
You going just, you quoted me earlier, you're just going to have to get the pigs out of the creek. Look, it's not complicated. The problem is that the common sense is illegal and waste. I mean really, when I feel inadequate in Washington because there are a lot of smart people there, but when I feel inadequate, Glenn, I just look around. I mean you, you, some of these folks, you go, how, how did, how did these people make it through the birth canal? And the rest of America just, just looks at them slack jawed in astonishment and they don't under, they don't, that's why they all hate Trump so much, is because he sees the world in very practical, common, sensical terms. I mean, is the President perfect? No. Does he work every day to get better also? No. The President is President. He's, he's, his personality develop. But, but he's not just sitting there. He's trying to change the place and, and support him. Now I'll say I got it. Did he do. And he'll call me and, and you know, every time he calls, I wonder if I'll end up with a sombrero on my head because he's mad. But at least he knows where I stay stand.
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Glenn Beck
John Kennedy is the Senator from the great state of Louisiana. His new book is how to Test Negative for Students. Stupid. Like you said, it's not a policy book, it's stories. And there is no greater storyteller than John Kennedy. Grab the book now. How to Test Negative for Stupid. John, Senator, thank you so much. God bless.
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Senator John Kennedy
Thank you, Glenn. Love your show, man.
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Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
At Glenn Beck.com it's every story we.
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Glenn Beck
Talk about every day. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Justin Haskins is joining us. He's from the Heartland Institute, vice president and also senior fellow at our Republic. He's got a, a new book coming out. We're going to talk about that when the book comes out. But I want to talk to him about the AI Strongman concept that he's just put a new poll together and we released some of it on politics and, you know, what socialism mean and how the economy feels to people 18 to 39 years old. And we talked about that last night on tv. But Justin's come in today because of AI and what else he found in the poll. Hey, Justin, how are you?
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Justin Haskins
I'm doing, I'm doing very well. Well, I don't know, it's pretty dark. This is a dark poll, folks, so buckle up.
- [110:45]
Glenn Beck
What I mean, bringing down the room, you know what's so funny is it's kind of my thing. We just had this great conversation with Senator Kennedy. It was very funny. Very funny. Light, makes you feel good. And then during the break, Justin gives Stu some unbelievable gift.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Yes.
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Glenn Beck
Just because he's trying. You're trying to be a better Charlie Kirk.
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Justin Haskins
I'm trying to be a better person. I am, I'm trying.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's a legitimate Vladimir Guerrero Jr. Signed jersey.
- [111:15]
Justin Haskins
He was. He's literally the only person that I've ever met in my life who likes the Toronto Blue Jays.
- [111:19]
Glenn Beck
Literally.
- [111:19]
Justin Haskins
I saw it and I was like, I gotta do it. It's a sign. It's incredible.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
But I seriously thank you. And they did. It heals a little bit of our horrific, tragic loss from a few weeks ago that I still am grieving. So I appreciate that. That's awesome.
- [111:32]
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Was that being used as a bar towel someplace?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
He was incredible. It's one of the greatest post seasons of all time.
- [111:39]
Glenn Beck
Glenn, come on. Yeah. Yeah, sure, sure. But. So I'm waiting for my gift.
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Justin Haskins
Oh, yeah, no, I have one. I do. I'm not ready to give it to you yet, though. That's all here is.
- [111:53]
Glenn Beck
Here is Justin's gift. He's going to bring the whole room down.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Okay.
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Glenn Beck
By talking about this poll. And it's not good. Listen to this.
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Justin Haskins
No. So we polled a national survey of likely voters, 18 to 39. So we're talking about young people. We asked them about socialism and the housing crisis and a million other things, and all those results were horribly depressing. They love socialism. They love Mamdani. They love Mamdani's policies.
- [112:22]
Glenn Beck
What's amazing is where they learn socialism from. Stu, who is the biggest influence on 18, 39 year olds on socialism? Where did they hear about it and get a good impression?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Gosh. Universities.
- [112:39]
Glenn Beck
Universities, right. Sarah, what would you say? Same universities, universities. Not even in the top three, is it?
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Justin Haskins
No, not even close. The number one response.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Go ahead.
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Justin Haskins
It was parents, by far. We asked them parents, who influenced you the most with these socialists that made you want to support socialism? It was parents and grandparents. Where two of the top answers, online videos and books and stuff like that came in later. And teachers were like, toward the very bottom. Teachers and college professors toward the very bottom. In fact, there was no correlation really between someone saying that their teachers and their college professors were trying. Were pro socialist and how these people voted. Even people who said, yeah, my teachers were a bunch of socialists. They voted for Trump kind of at the same rate as the people who voted for Kamala. So at least according to the respondents themselves, it didn't have any sort of an impact, really. Interesting.
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Glenn Beck
That's bizarre.
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Justin Haskins
Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, so now here's. Here's the question. Here's question number one. Significant advancements have been made in the fields of artificial intelligence and data collection, causing some to suggest that AI could take a more influential role in society. Many Americans are unhappy with the effectiveness of federal and state government officials, agencies, and politicians. If AI were to continue to improve, would you support a proposal to take power away from most human lawmakers and give it to an advanced AI system with the authority to control the majority of public policy decisions?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
You have a dark brain, man. I come up with these questions, Stu.
- [114:17]
Glenn Beck
And I talked yesterday about how I.
- [114:19]
Justin Haskins
Come up with these things.
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Glenn Beck
So it is so dark, right? You would hope that the, you know, you would go, oh, well, it's gotta be 90% opposed. Okay? Otherwise it's not so dark. If it's not 90% opposed, then it's not a dark concept. It's possibly a dark reality.
- [114:38]
Justin Haskins
Yeah. Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
Here are the results.
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Justin Haskins
Strongly support, somewhat support. Combined, 41% of young people said yes. Put AI in charge of policymakers. And it was 15% somewhat opposed. 34% strongly opposed. Just 34% strongly opposed this. 10%. They're on the fence. Still not sure about this one. They're thinking about it.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
So this could go either way. That 10% could break either way. It could be that the AI is winning this election, if you will.
- [115:08]
Justin Haskins
Even crazier is. Support among Republicans was highest among all of the different political groups. They were most likely to say young Republicans. That was at 46%. Independents were, I think, least likely to do it. So conservatives, very high. It was over 50% with conservatives said this. And I think it's what it's because. And this was a theme throughout this poll and other polls we've done recently of young people. They have so little trust in the system. They hate it so much. They think it's so unfair to them that they will literally do. They will put anyone in charge. That's why I call this theory the AI Strongman. Like they are looking for a strongman. Young people want someone to come in and just get things done and do whatever it is that they think is right. That's very clear from the polling data. And we've seen this now from multiple polls, not just one, multiple polls, national surveys of likely voters of young people.
- [116:10]
Glenn Beck
Okay, listen to the next question. It just keeps getting better. Many Americans are dissatisfied with the US Constitution and the Supreme Court. If AI continues to improve, would you support a proposal to revise the Constitution? So an advanced AI system has the authority to determine the rights that belong to individuals and families, including the rights related to speech, religious practices, government authority, and property.
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Justin Haskins
Yep, 36% strongly support or somewhat support. And it was 38% strongly opposed. Somewhat opposed was 18%. So this was clear opposition to this. They're less likely to support this than just putting, you know, policymaking generally in charge. But still, we're still talking about a huge percentage of young people, 36% and Republicans, again, 39% of Republicans said, yes, let's do this.
- [117:10]
Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
And so.
- [117:10]
Glenn Beck
And honestly, if you say yes to the first one, the second one is automatic?
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Justin Haskins
You would think so.
- [117:16]
Glenn Beck
But the.
- [117:16]
Justin Haskins
But the first one was the highest of all the ones that we tested. It was. And which. Which kind of makes sense because I think people hate politicians the most. And that was what we were talking about.
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Glenn Beck
Right. But what I'm saying Is if you put. Right. But if you put AI in charge, then it's going to do the other ones. I mean, all you need is the first one to be voted on and go, yeah, I want to put them in charge 100%. The next one. Military conflicts continue to rage around the world, including Ukraine. If AI continues to improve, would you support a proposal to give an advanced AI system the authority to control all of the world's largest militaries with the express purpose of reducing the number of people who would die from war?
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Justin Haskins
This is my favorite. One of the favorite questions I've ever written. I Love this question. 35% strongly support. Somewhat support. Very similar to the constitutional. The Supreme Court question. Higher strong opposition. 40%. That's the highest of all the strong opposition. But the thing that's so terrifying about all these is not just, well, it's 35%, 40%. Somewhere in that range. Want AI to basically take over huge parts of our society. It's that AI is still not all that great. So once AI becomes even better and so clearly smarter than people and it's already embedded in a lot of systems, this is going to go up. This isn't going to go down. We're not with. It's not like we're looking at this like, well, you know, they'll. They'll see the light. No, I don't think so. I think as AI improves, people are going to be more open to this idea. It's. It's the. And the foundation of. It's the experts. Right? Trust the experts.
- [118:54]
Glenn Beck
Yeah. But also what's easy and likable. I mean, think of this. We would have said two years ago, I'll never listen to AI music. AI music. I mean, it.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Trash.
- [119:05]
Glenn Beck
It's never going to be as good. It's not going to. You know, how can it talk about the soul and it won't be from the heart and everything else. And now it. An AI artist, if you will. An AI song all. AI is the number one song on the country music Billboard charts. Number one. Once it's so good, you're just like, yeah, I just. Yeah, that's good. I mean, that's just the way it's gonna happen. It's just gonna happen that way.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's interesting too. These are questions obviously based on policy and structural changes within the society and the government. But when you look at it on an individual level where people don't have those sort of hurdles to clear. Right. They can just do it if they want to. Right. I mean, AI is Already at least partially replacing doctors, lawyers, parents.
- [119:57]
Glenn Beck
Right.
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Like, I mean, I can't tell you how many people I know are just like on there. Oh, gosh, my, my kid won't do X, Y or Z. How can I make this happen? Click it into chat, GPT, give you recommendations and they put the, like. That's very, I would say, normalized already. And as you point out, it's not even good.
- [120:11]
Glenn Beck
But if you're, if you're using it, though, if you're using it for advice and it's one voice in council.
- [120:18]
Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Right.
- [120:19]
Glenn Beck
I don't think there's anything wrong with that. This is the step, this is the next step. And you would just give it over, just give control of your kids to the AI.
- [120:27]
Justin Haskins
Right.
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Glenn Beck
Well, and I, you know, teach your kids everything. Yeah, well.
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Justin Haskins
And think about kids. I mean, especially as they get older and there's a generation of kids who are growing up, going to grow up with this, who didn't have it. Like in the same way that I didn't grow up with social media. You didn't grow up with social media. There's going to be kids who grow up with AI.
- [120:45]
Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Yes.
- [120:45]
Justin Haskins
And it's just going to become a thing where of course, I go to it and I ask it the questions I don't want to ask anybody else or talk to my parents. It's, it's, it is, it is one. It's going to have one of the most negative impacts on society probably that we've ever seen, truly. And, and as you trust it more, it's going to get worse. Yeah. There's no question. Is that true?
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
That's how you feel, Glenn? No probably about it. I mean, you seem to be also sort of of an AI optimist at times. I mean, there's a lot of.
- [121:17]
Glenn Beck
I think there is, I think it is like everything. It is the greatest tool ever invented by man. It is the most empowering tool ever invented by. There is nothing even close to it. It is also the poison pill for humanity. And it just depends on if we say stop, you know, at some point. Do we have any limits? I don't think we do. I don't think we do. When you have Sam Altman openly talking about trying to create. Sam. God or God Sam. That, that's, that's a problem. That's a problem. So there are people who are actually trying to create something that would be Godlike.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Right.
- [122:02]
Glenn Beck
That, that's not good for humanity.
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Justin Haskins
No, there's a story about that. I think one, at one or two of them.
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Governor Greg Abbott
Yeah.
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Justin Haskins
The thing is, you need to have, with this kind of powerful technology, you need guardrails. You need guardrails on society. You need people to have those guardrails for reasons other than government creating them. And the problem is, as we've become less religious and we've moved more into this secular sort of society where there really is no objective standard for anything. We're all just. A lot of people are just kind of doing what feels right or whatever. And this is why we see, one day you could have Barack Obama be the pro traditional marriage candidate, and then the next day, if you're not pro trans, then you're thrown out of the party and you're the worst person ever. And that was like within a decade that that transformation happened. That's because there's no, there's no rules. There's no objective standard of morality. And so then when you add this into the equation, I mean, this is, it's the. It is a perfect storm. That is what's developing right now.
- [123:07]
Glenn Beck
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Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
It's a heck of a pro. This is how you get in the radio hall of fame. Right there.
- [125:59]
Glenn Beck
It is exactly how you do it. Let me tell you something. I'm going to play some audio here that both Stu and I absolutely, wholeheartedly agree with. This is Charlemagne the God about Jasmine Crockett. Listen, Jasmine Crockett is actually what the Democrats should be leaning into.
- [126:19]
Stu (Co-host or guest commentator)
Yes.
- [126:19]
Glenn Beck
Because she is a phenomenal messenger. Just the fact that she was able to articulate that in that three minute clip that I saw and it was so powerful and so provocative and you understood what the root of her issue was. And she got you by just saying Donald Trump is racist and this administration is racist and let me tell you why. And then you get into all of the issues.
- [126:39]
Senator John Kennedy
I'm like, yo, you need somebody like Jasmine Crockett.
- [126:41]
Glenn Beck
She is the most effective messenger that the Democratic Party has right now and they need to be using her as a Trojan horse. And you know what?
- [126:49]
Senator John Kennedy
I hate how Democrats treat her.
- [126:51]
Glenn Beck
I do, too. You know, I expect the Republicans to say the things that they say and do the things that they do.
- [126:57]
Senator John Kennedy
That's what I always say about Jasmine Crockett.
- [126:59]
Glenn Beck
Republicans talk about Jasmine Crockett publicly. Democratic crash talk about her privately. Jasmine Crockett for president is Glenn Becky.