Live from TPUSA: Accused Charlie Kirk Shooter's Motive REVEALED? | Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Ryan Mauro | 9/17/25

Summary

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The Glenn Beck Program

Live from TPUSA: Accused Charlie Kirk Shooter's Motive REVEALED?
Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Ryan Mauro | September 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this powerful, somber episode, Glenn Beck broadcasts live from Turning Point USA (TPUSA) in Phoenix, Arizona—a week after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. The program focuses on unpacking the motive and surrounding circumstances of the alleged shooter, media reaction, and broader cultural implications. Glenn and co-hosts reflect on the emotional resonance of this tragedy, push back against mainstream media narratives, and discuss how the event could serve as a turning point for American conservatives. Guests Rep. Chip Roy and researcher Ryan Mauro provide deep dives into political radicalization, Soros-aligned groups, media distortions, and the increasing threat of political violence.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Broadcasting from TPUSA: Mourning, Security, and the Scene

• Glenn describes the heightened security and somber atmosphere at the TPUSA campus, relaying the deep impact on staff and the inflow of condolences:
  • "The street's been blocked off for a week. A city-block-long fence is ten feet deep in balloons, flowers, and messages…" (04:25).
• The team reflects on the unity and resolve among the conservative community, comparing the mood to post-9/11 America.

2. Breaking Down the Shooter's Motive—Direct Evidence

• Glenn plays a police-narrated text message exchange between the alleged killer, Robinson, and his transgender partner (10:32-12:44):
  • Robinson explicitly states his intent:
    • "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it."
    • Discusses escape plans and confesses:
      • "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out."
• Glenn and co-hosts analyze the clear ideological motive—hatred directed at Charlie Kirk’s beliefs and prominence—noting the supposed delusion that he could “keep it secret till [he] died of old age.” (12:44)

3. Media Spin and Public Discourse

• Glenn and the team dissect mainstream coverage, especially an ABC News segment that described the shooter’s texts as “touching…a very intimate portrait.” (13:57)
• Glenn and Stu are incredulous at this framing:
  • Glenn: "I didn't get how touching that was, how romantic that was…" (14:44)
  • Stu: "What's not touching about that?" (14:54, sarcastically)

Quote:

• “It was this duality of someone…who jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd…on the other hand, he's speaking so lovingly about his partner.” — ABC Reporter, 13:57

• Discussion of media figures (e.g., Jimmy Kimmel), accusing the right of politicizing the tragedy or even blaming the "right" for the shooting, despite clear counterevidence.

  • Glenn: "He's ready to put this into a comedy monologue. That's how sick and deep this goes with some people." (17:17)

4. The Left’s Deflection & Collective Blame

• Glenn argues that the left's narrative quickly shifted to associating the shooter with conservative backgrounds, family, or so-called "right-wing radicalization," even as emerging details disproved this.

  • "Once you hear that the family is conservative, it doesn’t matter to them. It’s always the sins of the father." (22:26)

• They note how the left refuses individual culpability, often extending blame to families or entire groups, amplifying division and refusing to update with new facts.

5. Guest Segment: Rep. Chip Roy (25:35-37:45)

NGO Funding, Soros, and Political Radicalization

• Roy outlines the broad, “coordinated network” of radical leftist groups, accusing them of undermining American values through funding, legal interference, and culture wars:

  • "That radical, organized, coordinated group are purposely undermining our values and our way of life…fomenting revolution, color revolution, in our own country." (26:13)

• He references specific incidents—the scalise baseball shooting, Family Research Council shooting, Kavanaugh attempt, and now Kirk—and connects them via the Southern Poverty Law Center’s “hate maps.”

• Advocates for a Congressional select committee to investigate these networks:

  • "We need to expose that coordinated network and...the weaponization of government that is tied to it." (30:47)

• Glenn pushes back against overreach:

  • "We don't want another Patriot Act…Are you opening up a can of worms...?" (33:05)

Notable Quote:

• "Unity without purpose or binding us together under a shared set of values is not unity." — Chip Roy (36:56)

6. Guest Segment: Ryan Mauro (Capital Research Center) (48:21-60:36)

Exclusive Soros Research & Network Exposure

• Mauro previews a bombshell forthcoming report exposing how Soros-funded networks funnel “many millions of dollars” into groups actively engaged in or encouraging criminal activity:
  • “...many millions of dollars going to things like that. About 100 pages of evidence...today the counteroffensive begins.” (49:42-50:40)
• Their research is so extensive, it’s considered, per adversarial sources, “an existential threat that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups.”
• Beck vows to take the research directly to President Trump.

Radicalization, "TransTifa," and Extremist Rhetoric

• Mauro describes how radical “trans militia”-type groups (“TranTifa”) overlap with broader anti-American extremist circles, often supported by Soros-tied funding:
  • "I've seen funding, including from Soros's network, going towards groups that ally themselves with Antifa terrorists…TranTifa would be a subset of that." (59:08-59:23)
• Warns about the use of “Occupied Turtle Island” rhetoric as a sign of groups bent on destroying the legitimacy of the U.S.—paralleling anti-Israel arguments.

7. Correcting Lies about Charlie Kirk (89:42–103:29)

• The team reviews five pervasive media and social media lies spread about Kirk posthumously, including:
  • Falsely claiming he supported slavery, denigrated black women, or used racial slurs.
  • Glenn: "How bad does your image have to be of people on the other side to believe they could say that?" (95:53)
• They correct each, noting the actual context—such as criticism of specific public figures, not demographic groups.
• Emphasis on how these fabrications spread unchecked reflects both media bias and coordinated disinformation, sometimes from foreign actors:
  • "We now know…that Chinese and Russia are involved with disinformation campaigns based on Charlie Kirk, trying to push us into civil war." (103:29)

8. Open Grief, Comparison to 9/11, and a Spiritual Turning Point (83:10–85:36)

• Glenn, Stu, and Pat Gray express genuine emotional struggle, likening the week after Kirk’s death to the aftermath of 9/11:
  • "Isn't this…is that the closest thing we have to compare this to? I mean, this feels like 9/11." (83:27)
  • "It feels like the country’s changed. That's what it feels like. It really feels like we've lost something serious." — Stu (84:03)
• They note an unexpected spiritual revival among listeners and Kirk’s supporters:
  • "I'm seeing posts…people saying ‘I haven't been to church in five years…and I'm going this weekend.'" (84:45)

9. Advocacy for Principles over Reactionary Measures (74:15–75:56)

• Beck reaffirms strong opposition to new “hate speech” laws proposed in the wake:
  • "No, there is no such thing as hate speech…You cannot be arrested or fined…for what you say unless it directly leads to violence." (74:15)
  • "Charlie…was specifically against the hate speech stuff." (75:56)
• Asserts that limiting speech is antithetical to American freedom and contrary to Kirk’s own principles.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Shooter's Motive:
  • "I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out." — Shooter’s text, read by Police Narrator (11:58)
• On Media’s Coverage:
  • “Did you get how touching that was, how romantic that was?” — Glenn to Stu, on ABC framing (14:44)
  • “He was speaking so lovingly about his partner…it was very touching…” — ABC Reporter (13:57)
• On Collective Guilt:
  • "The left truly believes the son should pay for the sins of the father…they don't separate you from the family." — Glenn (22:26)
• On Soros & NGO Networks:
  • "It’s a coordinated effort to target Western civilization and our belief system." — Chip Roy (28:23)
• On Turning Point:
  • "His staff could not join us at 4 o'clock…They haven't had any sleep at all for days…" — Glenn (82:07)
• On Loss and Moving Forward:
  • “As much as we disagree, [Americans] have more in common with each other than all of these extremists that want to burn everything to the ground.” — Ryan Mauro (60:19)
• On Hope Amid Grief:
  • "I feel like we've gained something though, too...Maybe it leads to something really positive...what Charlie would have hoped for is...that people came to Christ over it." — Glenn (84:11-84:43)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------| | 03:27 | Glenn live from TPUSA, mourning backdrop | | 10:32 | Police read shooter’s texts to roommate | | 13:57 | ABC News “touching” coverage discussion | | 16:58 | Jimmy Kimmel, late night political spin | | 25:35 | Rep. Chip Roy on funding/NGO subversion | | 33:05 | Debate on constitutional risk of overreach | | 48:21 | Ryan Mauro on Soros network, exclusive preview | | 59:08 | Soros-linked funding to Antifa/TranTifa | | 83:27 | Grief, comparison to 9/11, spiritual impact | | 89:42 | Debunking posthumous lies about Charlie Kirk | | 103:29 | Chinese/Russian disinformation campaigns |

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Tone & Takeaways

• The episode is urgent and emotionally raw, blending deep grief with steely resolve. Glenn, Stu, and Pat Gray keep their characteristic wit but are notably somber and personal.
• Reaffirmation of First Amendment principles and constitutional restraint—no “hate speech” overreach, even in tragedy.
• Rejection of mainstream narratives that obfuscate the killer’s actual motives or shift blame to conservatives—emphasizing truth and responsibility.
• Calls for spiritual renewal, unity, and principled action as the best response to tragedy.
• Guests supply actionable intelligence—whether pushing for Congressional investigation or revealing Soros-aligned infrastructure—positioning the conservative movement for counteroffensive.

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For First-Time Listeners / Those Not Tuned-in

• Get the facts: The alleged shooter was ideologically motivated by hatred of Charlie Kirk—confirmed by his own texts.
• Media has spun the story in unexpected, sometimes disturbing ways—exposing bias.
• The conservative movement is both mourning and rallying, readying for exposés and investigations into the radicalization networks behind such violence.
• Listeners are reminded to stay vigilant about misinformation, even as foreign actors attempt to leverage moments like this to sow division.

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Support Charlie Kirk’s family: GiveSendGo.com/912project
For more: Tune in for Glenn’s tributes and Ryan Mauro’s research on the Charlie Kirk Show later that day.

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Transcript

[Chip Roy]

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[Stu]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Chip Roy]

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[Glenn Beck]

The dark and embrace the fire.

[Producer/Announcer]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

[Glenn Beck]

You ever been in a situation where, I don't know, it didn't feel real and then all of a sudden it hits you. Just a few minutes ago Hillary was doing our four minute buzz if you happen to listen to the blaze and she said the radio program begins in a minute live from Arizona. And all of a sudden I choke up. We're at Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's stomping grounds. We got here about 4:30 this morning. It's completely empty. Still today with an exception of the police and security presence. I want to describe the scene for you in 60 seconds. First let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. If you are able to see your phone bill and who it goes to, you might be shocked at what you find. A few bucks to this charity, a few bucks to that foundation and none of it has anything to do with you. That's because big mobile carriers have been taking your money and redistributing it to causes that you don't believe in. Progressive agendas, anti faith initiatives, groups that actively oppose your values. I'm so sick of my money going to different places that I don't agree with my tax dollars. Do it now. Your phone bill does it. Stop it. Everything we do makes a difference. Stop it and go to Patriot Mobile right now. They're America's only Christian, conservative wireless provider. They offer nationwide coverage on all three major networks so you get a great signal, great customer service and satisfaction of knowing that every dollar you spend stays in alignment with your beliefs. Switching has never been easier. Activate in minutes from the comfort of your own home. Keep your number, keep your phone or upgrade. Time to make the switch today. Go to patriotmobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot. Use the promo code Beck for a free month of service. It's patriotmobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot. There's lots of people here that I really want to see and shake their hand. But the one that's really been on my mind are the members of his security team. Greeted by one of them today. Vigilant, on guard. TPUSA is in the Phoenix area. It's down this side street. There's about 150 employees here. The street's been blocked off for a week. You drive up to a closed road and there's a police officer in a squad car on both ends of the block. They have to ask you who you are and where you're going. You're on a list. Later today, about 9:00am Pacific Time, just a few hours away, people will start coming and walking down the street. The fence line of the building is enormous. Good city block, and it's probably 10ft deep of balloons and flowers and messages for that whole block. People coming to pay their respects Sunday at the stadium. Many of us are traveling to Phoenix. I'll be here all week. Many people are traveling from all over the country. Big names, no names. People that just want to honor him and more encourage those who are working here to keep going. Don't stop. The light is getting stronger. It always does. We can concentrate on the darkness, but the darkness can only get darker as the light becomes stronger. Look at a shadow in weak light. The shadow is not very bold, but as the shadows grow darker, you know the light is growing stronger. After this broadcast, I'm going over to sit in Charlie's studio. I brought something with me that I want to share with his audience. It's a conversation I never thought I would share, conversation that happened between me and Charlie. But it's the reason why I brought this box that's sitting on this table now, because I think his audience needs to know. In the meantime, more nonsense is going on. Yesterday, they read the text messages between the killer and the transgender boyfriend, girlfriend, friend, whatever, roommate, and I want to play it, and I want you to gauge how you feel and what you gain from hearing these techniques. What. What knowledge do you gain from this? Listen.

[Police Narrator]

Police interviewed Robinson's roommate, a biological male who was involved in a romantic relationship with Robinson. The roommate told police that the roommate received messages from Robinson about the shooting, and he did provide those messages to police. On September 10, 2025, the roommate received a text message from Robinson which said, drop what you're doing. Look under my keyboard. The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that stated, quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. Police found a photograph of this note. The following exchange text exchange then took place. After reading the note, the roommate responded. What? You're joking, right? Robinson, I am still okay, my love, but am stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle. Still, to be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you. You weren't the one who did it, right? Robinson. I am. I am. I'm sorry.

[Ryan Morrow]

Roommate.

[Police Narrator]

I thought they caught the person. Robinson. No, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out, but there's one vehicle. Lingering roommate. Why, Robinson? Why did I do it? Yeah. Robinson. I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence.

[Glenn Beck]

So what do you get out of that? I mean, my first thought is, why didn't the roommate call police immediately? But then you can kind of go, well, maybe he still thought he was joking. Maybe, but it seems awfully specific. The next thing I thought was the roommate really didn't know in advance, at least according to this exchange. I get the fact that he thought he was going to get away with it. He actually. I mean, that's the sign of madness. He actually thought he would get away with it, and I was going to keep it secret till the day I die. And we get the moment or we get the motive. Just total hate. Total hate. Totally believing that your opinion is more valid than somebody else's. And so the only way to deal with a world like that is to snuff out somebody else's opinion. That's what I get out of it. Now, here's what ABC gets out of this. Listen.

[ABC News Reporter]

We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how, what was on it. But also it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect. A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him my love, and I want to protect you, my love. So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner.

[Glenn Beck]

I didn't get that, Stu.

[Producer/Announcer]

Did you get that?

[Glenn Beck]

Did you get how touching that was, how romantic that was?

[Stu]

You didn't feel that was touching?

[Glenn Beck]

No, I didn't feel that was touching. Wow.

[Stu]

Shocking.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

I mean, he said, my love.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I know.

[Pat Gray]

Multiple times.

[Stu]

What's not touching about that?

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Stu]

And he Also, the reporter there said something about, was it my job is to protect you or doing this is to protect you?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

That line doesn't appear in the transcript that I can find. Can you? Kind of weird, right? Like he says that as if he has knowledge of a line that we do not have knowledge of. Is also fascinating for many reasons. But no, you know, Glenn, the end of the day didn't find it all that touching.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Interesting. Now, that ABC News reporter is Matt Gutman. He now says because everybody was like Matt, that's probably a bad thing. He now says he regrets that choice of words. But does he really? Or is he just hoping just to last a couple of weeks until everybody goes back to sleep?

[Stu]

Do you want the quote from Matt Gutman? He says, yesterday I tried to underscore the jarring contrast between this cold blooded assassination of Charlie Cook, a man who dedicated. Sorry, Kirk. A man who dedicated his life to public dialogue, and the personal disturbing texts read out loud by the Utah county attorney at the press conference. I deeply regret that my words did not make that clear. But let there be zero doubt here, I unequivocally condemn this horrific crime and the pain it caused Charlie Kirk's family.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Those who were forced to witness it at UVU and the millions of people he inspired.

[Glenn Beck]

So, you know, it make that more believable if he wasn't working on abc. Now, he may be honest on that. I don't know. I can't judge him. I don't know. But ABC is assessed is a cesspool. Let me give you an example. Here's Jimmy Kimmel. Listen to this. Cut three. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang. Desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

[Stu]

Delusional. That is legitimately delusional.

[Glenn Beck]

Can we just. Can we just stop for just a second before we get to the delusional part? He's doing this in a standup routine. Really? Are we ready to laugh at the.

[Stu]

Political assassination probably 15 seconds after it?

[Glenn Beck]

He was exactly right. Exactly right. That's how sick and deep this goes with some people. He's ready to put this into a comedy monologue. Now let's get to the delusional part. He's saying that we're so desperate to make sure that people don't associate the left with this killer, and we're doing everything we can to make sure that everybody thinks that he wasn't one of the MAGA group. Excuse me.

[Stu]

It's incomprehensible. Now, if you want to give the most grace, do what we always do.

[Glenn Beck]

That the left never does for us, go ahead.

[Stu]

Right. The most generous way. I mean, you have to factor in that Jimmy Kimmel is not the smartest person you're ever really. But there is a. If you think about it the way that maybe the left experienced all of this, this happens, obviously, and we know this part is true. When one of these things happens, one of the things that sadly occurs afterwards is you're hoping it's not someone from your group.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu]

Like you are. And so you desperately hope that this is not going to be you. And then.

[Glenn Beck]

Hang on just a second. Is that true on the left now? I'm not sure that's entirely true.

[Stu]

It's a great point. If we could go back to the stuff we were talking about yesterday of the health care CEO murderer. I don't know that it is anymore, but it's. If you want to go down that road, you have a sense of thinking. You hope it's not someone who is on your side, if you will. And then the news came out of this family who seems to be the opposite of this, like a conservative, potentially Republican family. And if you cut your knowledge off right there, which it seems like a lot of the people, I mean legitimately, even people that are.

[Glenn Beck]

Because it was. Because it was convenient.

[Stu]

Well, yeah, they got what they wanted and it was like, la, la, la. I don't want to hear any more evidence. Don't tell me anything else. Yeah, of course, afterward. We of course understand, I mean, you still have to be delusional, I think, to believe it at that point. Because you had the bullets, you had the engravings on the bullets that, that had blatant.

[Glenn Beck]

We have the love exchange.

[Stu]

Right. So. But if you kind of tune it out there, you maybe can get to this point. The new evidence that has come out since with his relationship with this person, with what we know from the family who were talking about him getting more political and having a left wing ideology. Not like a guess, not like we have to put these ingredients together to see if it bakes a cake, but the actual cake is sitting in front of us with all the icing on it. Once we have that in theory, you should update your analysis of the situation.

[Glenn Beck]

You're being far too generous. You're being far too generous. I agree.

[Stu]

I agreed.

[Glenn Beck]

This is why agreed. Jimmy Kimmel and what's his face with the dancing injections.

[Stu]

Stephen Colbert.

[Glenn Beck]

Stephen Colbert. Why? Those two are just despicable human beings. They know they're lying. They know it. They know they are lying. That's not, that's in a monologue. That's not off the cuff, right? That's not off the cuff.

[Stu]

And I do think that, like the analysis I presented is probably true for.

[Glenn Beck]

Some people you see online. Not them.

[Stu]

Not them.

[Glenn Beck]

Not them. Not them. Okay, let me, let me explain. Let me explain something when we come back. Why some people can get away with that. Not these guys, but why some people get away with and what it says about them. All right, we'll do that in just a second. First, buying or selling a home should be one of the most important and exciting moments of your life. But all too often it turns into a stress fueled nightmare. Missed calls, bad advice, pushy sales tactics, or an agent who just treats you like another number. That's why I created Real Estate Agents I Trust. It's a free service that connects you with vetted, experienced agents who actually know your market and more importantly, actually care about you. These are full time professionals who've been through the good markets and bad. They know how to stage it properly, negotiate strategically. And if you're buying, they'll help you avoid overpaying and get you into the home that fits both your budget and your life. It's Real Estate Agents I trust dot com. That's Real Estate Agents I Trust dot com. This is my company. If you're buying or selling across the street or across the country, we'll find the right real estate agent for you. Free service to you. It's real estate agentsitrust.com realestate agents I trust dot com. Ten seconds. Station ID. So let me go back to your charitable theory here. On what? On how people work. What, what is the theory again?

[Stu]

Quickly, that they were worried it was going to be someone on their side. Evidence came out, oh, it's Republican family. And then, you know, there was the theories going around, someone that thought he wasn't right enough.

[Glenn Beck]

Right?

[Stu]

And then once that comes out, you're like, phew, you let your guard down and stop following the updates.

[Glenn Beck]

So here's what the left does all the time that the right doesn't. The left truly believes that the son should pay for the sins of the father, that the family is responsible for generations back. So once you hear that the family is conservative, it doesn't matter to them. It doesn't matter. My family, my family was, you know, in Europe during slavery, we didn't own any slaves. Okay, We're Lucky we weren't slaves, white slaves, you know, we were poor and everything else. We didn't have anything to do with it at all. And yet I'm somehow, because I'm white, responsible for it. It's not my family. Not my family. And by the way, even if it was my family, not me, they don't separate you from the family. And it's, it's, it's fascinating because they think the family is the root of all evil. They're trying to destroy the family. Well, who are you going to blame when you destroy the family? Who are you going to. Just who are you going to blame? Because then you got to blame the individual for their actions. But I think that's why they can get can legitimately in their head, just shut it off. Oh, well, it's a conservative family because it's all, it's always the famous, it's always the sins of the father.

[Stu]

But all the groups on the left that these people are involved in are inoculated from all this. Like that association only goes so far, apparently, when it benefits them.

[Producer/Announcer]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We Have Chip Roy on with us. Chip is the. The Republican congressman from Texas, also candidate for Texas Attorney General. And we couldn't get a better attorney General than Chip Roy. Chip, I want to talk to you a little bit about, you know, what the New York Times is saying and a gross overreach that we are now targeting the Democrats and we're using Charlie Kurt's death as a political tool by going after some of these NGOs and looking into who might be funding different things. Can you respond to that?

[Chip Roy]

Well, I think they're afraid that's the truth, Glenn. They don't want us to pursue the truth. They don't want us to expose to the American people the broad, extensive, coordinated network of radical leftists, Marxists that are funding all of this. Now they think we're trying to say, oh, you know, you're saying they funded the shooting of Charlie Kirk. Well, we'll let the authorities go investigate this and follow the law wherever it may lead. But what I am saying is that that radical, organized, coordinated group are purposely undermining our values and our way of life, whether it's the border and all of the funding of the NGOs and all of the organizations, including, by the way, a lot of charities masquerading as faith organizations that were dumping people into our country, harming our citizens. American citizens died. Fentanyl poured into our streets. The organized funding, like the Ren Collective that is tied to these radical Das and Soros funded prosecutors, judges that are letting criminals out on the street, then dangerous that resulted directly in the death of the Ukrainian refugee that we all saw in that horrific video leading up to, obviously, the loss of Charlie, but the radicalization of our schools, the radicalization of all of this stuff, the transgender efforts, all of that is not just some fanciful, like, weird unicorn hippie crap. It's actually a coordinated effort to target Western civilization and our belief system. And they don't want us to pursue it. We must pursue it. And that's why I put forward a letter calling on the formation of a select committee designed to focus on it. Now, look, if you want to run that all under judiciary or oversight, fine. I mean, Speaker Johnson and Jim Jordan and Jamie Comer, they're all great friends. However we want to do it, the purpose of the letter is to say we must do it. It can't just be left to cash and the FBI and to Pam Bondi and to the administration. Congress has to do our job, to expose to the American people this broad network that is radicalized against our way of life.

[Glenn Beck]

We just to go through some of them. 2012 terrorist attack against a conservative Christian think tank, the Family Research Council. We know somebody went in there and just shot everybody up. Steve Scalise shot at the Republican practice for the Congressional baseball game. The guy wanted to, he's a Bernie Sanders fan. Wanted to kill everybody on the diamond, all of the Republicans. Rand Paul attacked by a crazy lefty on his own lawn. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh almost assassinated. President Trump nearly assassinated, not once, but twice. Both lefties. And now Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And, you know, I think a lot of this. Go ahead. No, go ahead.

[Chip Roy]

No. I want to point out one thing there. Take an organization like the Southern Poverty Law center, they have their heat map, right, that is directed to saying that we've got our folks who are hate organizations or, you know, somehow a threat, and they put all that out there trying to radicalize their people. Guess who was on that list. The Family Research Council, which you just pointed out was shot up by a radicalized individual right here in Washington, D.C. where a security guard got shot. Charlie Kirk was on the Southern Poverty Law Centers targeted heat map and basically putting a target on Charlie Kirk. So all of these things are coordinated. And I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I just wanted people to understand each one of these things are connected.

[Glenn Beck]

You, you have a lot of it also that is connected directly to schools. I mean, Arabella advisors. You know, you look at what, what these guys are doing in conjunction, just raising money and dumping it into these far left wings. I mean, Chip, I've been on this since Tides foundation was, you know, something new. And breaking news. This is a long running practice of the left, and it's got us. It has to stop. It has to stop because they're not only taking the money that they're raising and fomenting revolution, color revolution in our own country, but they also have found a way to our tax dollars. And so these same organizations are getting our tax dollars to do the same.

[Chip Roy]

Glenn, you know when I've followed you for a long time and, you know, you and I have now known each other for a long time, and the thing that I've always admired about what you've done is try to explain to the American people, even dating back to some of your TV days, where you go out there and you have the big whiteboards, right, connecting the dots, and this is where I think Congress has been missing it, and Republican Congress. And we do, we do a lot of good stuff, okay? I mean, look, we've been Working hard in the big, beautiful building. All the stuff, you know, I've been talking about, good and bad. There's some good, some bad. You got to herd cats, I get it. But we have not done a sufficient job, in my opinion, of exposing this organized, coordinated effort. And by the way, that is directly tied to what we were articulating a couple of years ago when we went through the Speaker's fight and we were demanding that we create a sort of weaponization select committee. We ended up sticking it under the Judiciary Committee, and we did some things, but the purpose there, to me is much bigger and bolder than we've ever done. I believe we need to step on the gas. I believe that we need to expose that coordinated network and the weaponization of government that is tied to it. That's the key element here, right? All of those groups fomenting hate and targeting our people. And I don't mean fomenting hate like hate speech. That's a garbage principle, by the way. And I hope the Attorney General is backing away from talking about, quote, hate speech. That's a leftist tyrannical terminology. We don't police thoughts. But the focus. The focus, when you've got a hate map, that's a political tool of the left to say that, yeah, Charlie Kirk, he's a hate. He's a hater. And the Family Research Council is a hater. Why? Because we believe in Jesus and we believe in Western civilization. We believe in marriage, we believe in families, we believe in responsibility and work ethic and Western civilization. They want to target it and go after it, and they use government to attack us for it. They use government to undermine the Trump administration. They use government to target law abiding citizens and things like the Face Act. If you dared pray at an abortion clinic, and I could go on and on, that's the coordinated effort we need to do a better job of exposing. That's what my letter was all about.

[Glenn Beck]

I was on a conference call yesterday with a, with a bunch of leaders on the right, and we were discussing things that need to happen, and I brought up some things that can't happen. I said, you know, I hope that we are all watchdogs here, that we don't go too far, that we don't have a Patriot act, because right now the passions are running very, very high and we don't want another Patriot Act. We cannot afford another Patriot Act. I want to make sure that we're doing everything constitutionally correct, not getting into some sort of thing that we're all going to regret down the road. Is this all constitutional? Is this all right in line with, are you opening up a can of worms that when the other side gets a hold of this, we're going to pay for it?

[Chip Roy]

Well, so I couldn't agree more, actually. And keep in mind, what we're talking about is what I'm talking about. Not a law, not a additional crime, not a, you know, statute that's going to be enforced against people. It's about saying, we need to put together hearings with subpoenas and call people forward and paint a picture for the American people. Look, we do that anyway. All this, that's oversight. That's our job in Congress. But we just need to do it with focus. My point is, and I think you agree, we just need to do it better and we just need to expose this radical, radicalized network that's against our way of life. People are going to say, oh, Chip, that's McCarthyism. No, I want to seek truth wherever it may lead. I believe, and I've seen significant evidence of these coordinated activities. Let's go see it. If George Soros is just sitting on an island throwing money into the wind to get people elected, he is within his rights to do so. If some organization wants to speak out and say they don't like our country or they don't believe in Jesus, they are free to do so. But when you are coordinating all of that and these organizations are masquerading as things they are not, and when they are then using that to foment the kind of violence and things that are directed at our way of life, or putting criminals on the streets or putting gang members in our neighborhoods, or funneling fentanyl into our communities because it's a political, political operation because they want more voters, that's a real problem, and that's undermining our security. And it needs to be exposed, must be exposed, and then we can go deal with it. But I couldn't agree more. We should not react. Like, I'll give you an example. We were debating yesterday in the Rules Committee a small provision that was added to the continuing resolution to add additional security for executive branch, judiciary, and then, yes, legislative branch officials. It was about $88 million of funding. Now, that's not huge in our budgetary scheme, sadly, but I raised the question, guys, how are we paying for this? How is this going to work? Like, sure, security. But we shouldn't react and throw everything out because we're just, oh, my God, we're in a panic. This happened. This is terrible. We should follow normal procedures, make reasoned, collective judgments about what is good for the country. And I believe the country deserves to know the truth about organizations they think are innocent that are out there fomenting a lot of the things that are undermining their liberty, their security, their way of life.

[Glenn Beck]

Talking to Chip Roy, who's running for Texas Attorney General. He is currently a congressman, one of the best congressmen in Washington. Let me switch gears. How long do you think this is going to last? This, this at least attempt at unity, you know, especially after what you saw happen with Luigi Mangione in court yesterday. People in the courtroom cheered when they said, you know, they had to throw out the murder in the first degree charge. They cheered.

[Chip Roy]

Well, I don't really put much stock in whatever people are saying about, quote, unity at the moment, whether that's unity that people are saying we need to unite across our ideologies or even within, frankly, the Republican Party per se. Unity without purpose that are binding us together under a shared set of values is not unity. Like, what are we united to do and accomplish? I said this in so much in the letter that we're not. We can't force being bound together. You are bound together based on your commitment to a shared belief system. And you either believe in Western civilization, believe in God, believe that our Western civilization is built on those principles, or you don't.

[Glenn Beck]

Chip, as always, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Keep up the good work.

[Chip Roy]

God bless you, Glenn. Take care.

[Glenn Beck]

All right, Chip Roy.

[Chip Roy]

All right.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Pat Gray is joining us now from the studios in Dallas. Hello, Pat.

[Pat Gray]

Hello, Glenn. Stu. Welcome.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you. So we're sitting, we're in the studios of Turning Point USA in Phoenix, Arizona. Today, I'm going to be filling in for Charlie in just about two Hours from now. What is. What is your take on all of this?

[Pat Gray]

Oh, well, like, everybody else is just devastated. It's been incredible to see the. The impact it's had on my family. Everybody in the family just devastated by it. Everybody absolutely devastated. Yeah. You know, for somebody they've never met, but watched a lot, I mean, they really. They really felt a powerful connection to him. He really made a difference. I mean, he.

[Glenn Beck]

He really cut through into my children's life.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And I don't know about your wife or your wife, Pat, but my wife cannot stop with the Erica stuff. She just can't stop. She's watching all. Everything. She just can't stop. Yeah. And I'm like, honey, don't show it to me. I can't. I can't do it. Well, I just can't do it. It's so hard.

[Pat Gray]

I know. And we were. We were playing some of what Erica said in that video on Friday, on Monday, and I could barely keep it together. It's just. It's so difficult to see her in these circumstances. It's been really tough. Really, really tough. And. And then, you know, to see the other side of it has just been one of the most incredible things I've ever witnessed. We've never seen anything like this. I've never seen people rejoice. And you had a little of that with the Manjoni thing, with the Luigi thing where he shot the UHC CEO. Still have some of that, but I've never seen anything to this extent. And it just doesn't make any sense to me, except it's somebody that stood for things they just hate, you know, Christianity.

[Glenn Beck]

Imagine what they would be saying about all of us if we reacted this way. And it was the odd.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, my gosh.

[Stu]

And it never would. Never would. Pat, do you agree with the take that the. The healthcare CEO murderer is a precursor to this? I kind of feel like it is. I feel like the fact. The way. The way he was embraced with open arms, I think.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Created several more of these situations.

[Glenn Beck]

It's exactly the same with the crime. If you're not punished for burning down a city, it just increases the odds that Antifa is going to burn down cities.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

Ryan Morrow is a guy who's been on this program several times. He is the capital research center investigative research center researcher and one of the best researchers I know. He's a counterterrorism expert. He is joining me now. He says he has the smoking gun that president Trump needs to take on the Soros network and he's going to, he's going to reveal a lot of this stuff today while I'm on the Charlie Kirk show. I'm going to be hosting for Charlie in about two hours on, on the Charlie Kirk show. And we're going to reveal more details but I want him to give a preview of what he has today. Coming up in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour.

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[Glenn Beck]

Ryan, welcome to the program. We're glad you're here.

[Ryan Morrow]

Thanks for having me.

[Glenn Beck]

So, Ryan, first of all, I know how you felt about Charlie Kirk, and condolences on that, and thank you for everything that you're doing right now. I think this is so important, especially in the wake of his martyrdom.

[Ryan Morrow]

Thank you. And it's an honor, really, to be part of, you know, your friend and to be part of, part of your team and trying to make a difference so that this doesn't go unanswered and so that hopefully some greater good comes about as a result of this.

[Glenn Beck]

So I remember you and I met, oh, how many years ago and we, we sat together and we talked about taking on George Soros and how important do you remember that conversation?

[Ryan Morrow]

I do. It was we were discussing our mutual friend Phil Haney, who had passed, and the way forward.

[Glenn Beck]

And so you have been doing research, and you are a great researcher, and you've been doing research. And what can you share? Now, I know you want to make a big announcement when we're together again with the Charlie Kirk show, but what can you give us as a preview?

[Ryan Morrow]

Well, what I can say is that I believe that myself and my colleagues at Capital Research center have done the most extensive investigation into the Soros Network's funding of Extremis that I think was ever conducted. And the results are shocking and should change the game. It should equip the Trump administration with what they need in order to take action. We don't have to have a debate about free speech versus hate speech. If you look at the IRS code, nonprofits are not allowed to be engaging in criminal activity. They're not allowed possibly to even be encouraging it. If you look at the language and what we have found is many millions of dollars going to things like that. And right now I'm holding my hand about 100 pages of evidence that we're about to drop with you. And so I think it's safe to say that today the counter offensive begins.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, we are going through the hundred pages ourselves right now. We got it from you last night. And, and we're furiously going through all of the pages. It's pretty, pretty remarkable what you have found. What is your, what's your level of comfort on saying 100% correct?

[Ryan Morrow]

I almost never say this, but it's 100% correct. And to give you an idea of why I'm so confident, there's a related report that I did for Capitol Research center called Marching Towards Violence, where we mapped out all the groups that were organizing the anti semitic, anti American protests after the October 7th attacks. And we identified over 150 pro terrorism groups that basically manufactured all of that. And this is, this is very similar. There's some overlap. And here is what one of the media outlets connected to that seditionist movement, Truth out, actually said. They said that our report is a, quote, existential threat that could easily mean a quick death for most of the groups, especially the nonprofits, by getting their tax exempt statuses revoked. And those that survive, this group said, would suffer what they called mass chaos. So the extremists have told us that we've discovered how to defeat them.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, it's, it's amazing to me that these guys have gotten away with it for so long. I mean, when I started, you know, going after the Tides foundation and showed how the, showed America how the shell game was working, they've only gotten more bold and much, much more dangerous. All the way into using our tax dollars to funnel money into overthrowing us. Why haven't we gotten serious about this until now?

[Ryan Morrow]

I think it's so brazen that it's hard for people to believe that there's actually something bad going on. I mean, there's a few things going on, which is where it's so in your face that people say, well, that, well, I mean, if it was really that bad, then someone would have done something about it. And then they looked elsewhere. There have been exposes done about grants going from some of these big billionaire funded organizations going to these extremist groups. But it comes in drips and drabs. So what we've done is we brought it in the case of Soros, brought it all together. Into one spot found many, many, many more financial transactions using their own records in order to illustrate for the first time, I think so, people understand that this is an infrastructure, this is a movement. And as scary as that is, it also means it can be taken down. We can confront them, and this is something that we can win.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, it was amazing to me. I think there's three countries. I know it's Hungary, I think it's Singapore, and I think there's another one that have banned George Soros and his allies. You, you can't operate in those countries because they know the damage that he does. And they know and they, and they've just said it out loud. Do you think we're going to get to a place to where we can start doing things like that?

[Ryan Morrow]

Well, I think we're at that point, I think when this comes out and people realize that what the IRS code says a tax exempt organization can do and cannot do and how blatantly is being crossed, that this is no longer a heavy list. It's just a matter of the will of willpower and coordination, making sure everybody that can make something happen actually does it and is all operating. They're all on the same page. And as bad as the threat is and as quickly as it's escalating, I think we can rapidly push it back. And when people see that, like Soros is funding so many groups that endorse the October 7th attacks, I think you'll even see Democratic voting and left wing supporting groups back away and say, you know what, I don't want to touch this.

[Glenn Beck]

We are, like I said, we're going over the research ourselves and we'll probably end up doing a giant chalkboard on it once we get through it. But I want you to know I'll personally give it to the president myself to make sure that he sees it. Because you've done, you've done yeoman's work here and done a lot of the work for the FBI and everybody else. It's, I mean, it's, it's not hard to see where it is. It is hard to prove it and to track it down and make sure that everything is buttoned up. And you've done a lot of that work already. So thank you for that.

[Ryan Morrow]

Thank you so much, Glenn. It's great to know that finally action will be taken with your help and that just for everyone listening out there, like civilians, can make a difference. You know, you don't have to outsource your civic responsibility to the government and assume that they Know everything and all the powers in their hands. This is, this is the power of patriotic nonprofit organizations like the one I work for. What independent civilians can do. You can really make a difference if you want to.

[Glenn Beck]

Can you talk about Occupied Turtle Island? I know we've talked about this before, but I'd like you to go into that again because it kind of goes into what you were, what you're going to talk about here. Coming up in a couple of hours.

[Chip Roy]

Sure.

[Ryan Morrow]

So this is a term that everyone needs to familiarize themselves with because this is how you know when a group is radical. Very often our times are hiding it. They will refer to the United States as either the so called United States or Occupied Turtle Island. And it comes to this myth that the Native Americans, before the evil white settlers showed up, referred to the entire continent as Turtle Island. And what they do is by referring to the US As Turtle island, they're saying, we do not recognize the right of the United States to exist. And if you do not have a right to exist, that you should be destroyed. And it's the same template that they use against Israel when they refer to it as Occupied Palestine. So these groups are supposedly just anti Israel, then refer to the US As Occupied Turtle Island. They have the same exact agenda for both of us. And if you look at the foreign governments that support them, if you look at what the words of the extremists of all kinds say that are part of this movement, their big gamble is that Americans can be triggered, provoked, to rip America apart along racial lines, along political lines, and that our civil discourse, our civil society will be so poisoned that it'll cease to function and that people will become more like Tyler Robinson supporters. And the rhetoric will be more like that and less like the love you would see from Charlie Kirk. I mean, I mean, you look at some of the longer, even the longer videos of Charlie Cook that sometimes didn't always go viral, and you can see the love he had for the people he was defeating at times. And that for me, I know, made me a better person. That impacted me more than any opinion he expressed or argued for.

[Glenn Beck]

I think that's why he affected so many people. He really did love the people he was debating. He really didn't have hatred in his heart for any of them. I mean, you know, he. He became a Christian. He was baptized in 2018, I think, and he lived his faith. He lived his faith and was really trying to live a life very much like Christ and, you know, not a perfect guy by any stretch of the imagination. But man, better than I am, better than I probably have ever been, you know, living his life. Let me, let me ask you about one other thing. Let me put a full screen up. This is Kristen Hawkins, president of Students for Life. A side by side picture of a Charlie Kirk memorial at UNC Wilmington. One before it was vandalized and one picture now spray painted with trans Pride colors. So vandalize after. Have you heard of trans tran tifa? You heard that term?

[Ryan Morrow]

I have. Oh yeah, it's like a militia type movement. And they've used that term to describe themselves, by the way, so it's not really offensive.

[Glenn Beck]

How real is transa? How extensive is that? And have you seen any funding going toward groups that would call themselves tran Tifa?

[Ryan Morrow]

I've seen funding, including from Soros's network, going towards groups that ally themselves with antifa terrorists. For sure, we're going to show that transifa would be a subset of that. So you can make the argument that connection exists. But more broadly, I mean, I've been studying and monitoring extremists and getting to law enforcement intelligence about these types of people for many years, report thousands of them. And so I saw this militia type trans people movement really growing. And it's real. Like I've seen them own MMA gyms. I've seen them doing. They're very pro gun actually, because you have to have a militia and they act. I've seen them actually radicalize what you would consider to be almost like right wingers with this anarchist rhetoric about minimal government or no government and gun rights. And that's why it's. The more I monitor this, the more I feel like the framing of some of this needs adjustment because all of these diverse extremists kind of go into one global seditionist movement is what I call it. All of us, as much as we disagree, have so much more in common with each other than all of these extremists that want to burn everything to the ground.

[Glenn Beck]

I know, I know, I know. And yet they'll stand together, you know, and plan on killing each other after, you know, they, they win against us. And for some reason we just can't stand together. Thank you so much, Ryan. We'll talk to you in a couple of hours. Appreciate it.

[Ryan Morrow]

Thanks, Glenn. Thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

You bet, Ryan. Ryan is going to be joining me on the Charlie Kirk show because of his relationship with Charlie Kirk. He really wanted to announce it on Charlie's show and I think it's absolutely appropriate. But it's, it's big breaking news and it is the key that the President will need to begin to take down George Soros and a lot of his NGOs. Ryan seems to have the goods, and we'll bring that to you in a couple of hours. All right, Let me tell you about our sponsor. It's rough greens. You've never seen your. Your dog go from old and worn out to basically being a puppy again, right? Except I have. And if you've. If you've tried rough greens, you probably have as well. It starts with the food. It was the same bag as always, same brand. But something was missing, something was slowing him down. Not interested in walks, his coat's dull, he's not himself, he doesn't want to eat. And then I put rough greens on top. It's not a dog food. It's a powder that you sprinkle on top of your dog's food. And it's filled with vitamins and minerals and probiotics and enzymes and the kind of nutrition you expect them to be having. You know what I mean? Tailored for your dog. The change was almost instant. First Uno would just run to the bowl with more energy, brighter eyes, softer fur, the spring in his step that I hadn't seen in years. And I'm telling you, when your dog feels better, you see it, you feel it. And you'll do anything to keep that going for as long as you can. Rough greens don't just feed your dog, fuel them. Get your free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog today. $20 value, but you get it for free. Just cover the shipping@rough greens.com. use the promo code BECK. Rough Greens.com promo code BECK. 10 seconds and back to the show.

[Stu]

One of the big pieces of push back from the left since all this happened was actually, no, there's no rise in this trans violence, this trans aggressiveness. That's not a real thing. This is something that the right is. Is made up. And actually, excuse me. The overwhelming majority of incidents when it comes to political violence come from the right, Glenn.

[Glenn Beck]

I'd like to see the evidence of that. I would love to see the evidence of that and the timeline, too. I heard one of the last questions with Charlie Kirk in the last 10 years. Was it 10 years or 20 years? In the last 10 years. Yeah, you're right. Well, really? Well, this isn't. This is a pretty new problem.

[Stu]

Yeah. You know, when you go back, the farther you go back. I've seen people even try to push it back to the 60s.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

You know, I mean, they're like okay, well, if you go back to the 60s, it's like, all right, no, you're right. The trans violence problem was probably not all that large in 1965. We're talking about something that's very recent and explicit. I mean, we've seen covers of magazines where trans people are opposing with firearms to show that you should be intimidated by them.

[Glenn Beck]

The trans activist organization with the red star, you know, the Marxist Communist star, has the trans people with automatic weapons. I mean, that's part of the deal. Yeah.

[Stu]

There was an organization called, what was it, Armed Queers of Salt Lake City that deleted their account immediately after this.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I wonder why. I wonder why.

[Stu]

I know the FBI is looking into him. I talked to Aaron Sabarium who has had an exclusive on, on that, and they're looking into not only that person or that organization, but a bunch of the people. If you saw in the moments after the horrible incident with, with, with Charlie Kirk, they, they. There were a lot of people who seemed to have prior knowledge of it that had tweeted specific things like, I'd hate to see this happen on September 10th. Right. Things like that. And you. Some of them, some of them honestly might have very well just been people who wanted it to happen and had.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, they knew when he was coming.

[Stu]

Yeah, they knew when he, when he was coming. So it's possible and probable that some of those people were not related to him. It. Some of them, though, are. It would be the, the coincidence of all coincidences if they had no knowledge or nothing to do with it could have been the case, but hard to believe. And the fact that a lot of these people were tied to these radical trans groups, some of them even one of them in particular, following in advance of the murders, the roommate of the murderer. Now that is, I mean, again, that's a heck of a coincidence. If that's has nothing to do with it. Maybe that's true. I'm sure the, I do have some faith in the, in Cash Patel that he's not going to overlook something like that. If there is something really to look at.

[Glenn Beck]

100%, I am glad Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and President Trump are the ones in charge. Not don't necessarily feel that way about Pam Bondi. You know, I, I start to get a little better with Pambani and then I go back down the hill. You know, I mean, this, this whole hate speech thing is really disturbing. We're going to get into that in a minute, but I find that really disturbing. But Cash Patel, I think is doing a fantastic job.

[Stu]

I know. I actually know Cory Booker was yelling at him yesterday. So we know he was not doing a good job whenever.

[Glenn Beck]

Corey, we have a minute to play this. Sarah.

[Stu]

Oh, no, please don't.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, go ahead. Cut six, please.

[Stu]

Oh, no.

[Pat Gray]

Corey, that rant of false information does not bring this country together. If you want to work on bringing this country, it's my time, not yours.

[Glenn Beck]

My God. My God.

[Reporter]

You want to talk about.

[Stu]

I follow you on your social media posts.

[Pat Gray]

Try all your in this country country for one quarter.

[Glenn Beck]

This is so unproductive. But the reason why Cash Patel said it's my time, my time is that Chuck Grassley said, look, this talking over each other is ridiculous. So let the, let the senator speak and then we'll give him a minute to speak. And Cory just can't abide by the rules.

[Stu]

Of course.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad that you're here. Thank you so much for listening. We're in Phoenix, Arizona, at Turning Point usa. I'll be filling in for Charlie Kirk in his studio coming up in about an Hour and a half.

[Stu]

Should I be concerned here, Glenn?

[Glenn Beck]

What do you mean?

[Stu]

I learning that you are on the COVID of the Jerusalem Post.

[Glenn Beck]

I heard that yesterday.

[Stu]

And then also you're on the air today wearing an armband. And I feel like those two things probably don't lead to good headlines.

[Glenn Beck]

Really?

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Can you explain either one of them to me?

[Glenn Beck]

I can't explain the COVID of the Jerusalem Post.

[Pat Gray]

You can't?

[Glenn Beck]

It's. No, I can you.

[Stu]

Well, I mean, I. It does seem to be. Okay. So now I'm seeing the context of the article, which is better than what I was hoping for.

[Glenn Beck]

You didn't even know the context.

[Stu]

Well, I mean, I knew the basic. I knew you were on the COVID It's. I see the picture of you, but it does underneath. Top 10 Christian Voices for Israel.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu]

And a real honor. Yeah. Looking.

[Glenn Beck]

You see who's on the top 10?

[Stu]

Yeah. Pastor Greg Laurie, Floyd Mayweather. That's interesting.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Dr. Johnny Moore, Douglas Murray.

[Glenn Beck]

Murray, yeah. I mean, wow.

[Stu]

Brendan Tatum. That's great.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

That's a great collection. This is as interesting.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

That.

[Glenn Beck]

It's an honor. I don't know if that makes it safer for me to walk around.

[Stu]

Oh, gosh, no. It's a terrible. Terrible for that. But I will say. Are you trying to, like, even that out by wearing a fascist armband like you seem to be doing?

[Glenn Beck]

Is that what it is? A fascist arm? You don't know what it is?

[Stu]

I feel like the armband.

[Glenn Beck]

I really don't know what it is.

[Stu]

Yeah. Well, I feel like. Yeah. Let's say about 90 years ago, the.

[Producer/Announcer]

The.

[Stu]

The whole armband thing started going out of style.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stu]

In certain circles.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Certain circles embraced it. I just.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Up until about 1950, maybe. Maybe. Because I'm just a history buff. I just think it's. I just think it's appropriate. In this case, up until about 1940, 1950, if you had a death in the family, you would wear a black armband, and it would. It would just denote that you were in mourning. And I. I've never done that for a family member or anything else, but I thought for Charlie Kirk, I thought it was appropriate. And I actually remembered it because I was in. I was in Idaho, and I was in a parking lot of a grocery store, and this guy comes up and he's wearing a T shirt and he had taken black. I don't even know what you call it. You know that kind of tape they use now, if you get, like, your blood drawn, they use that tape. They Just put it around your. You know, and it's kind of sticky, but not. He had taken black tape, whatever that kind of tape is, and he had put it around his arm. And he walked up to me and he said, I'm with you, brother. And I didn't have an armband. And he pointed to that, and I said, is that a morning armband? And he said, yeah, I just made it. I didn't have a cloth or anything. I just made it because I want people to know I'm thinking about Charlie Kirk. And I just thought that was a cool gesture. And so, yeah, that's. That's. It's. It's either that or a black shirt armband from the. From the Times in Italy. I'm not. I'm not sure which one. Of course, it's for Charlie Kirk.

[Stu]

Yeah, I. I did not know that you did that. People did that. Honestly, I was sort of thinking that maybe you were just constantly monitoring your blood pressure, which would actually be a good move for you this week, especially this.

[Glenn Beck]

It would be.

[Pat Gray]

Be.

[Glenn Beck]

It would be. Especially when you look at what's happening with. With Pam Bondi and now President Trump yesterday.

[Stu]

Yeah, I'm not sure where this is going. It feels like not a good place. Not a good place.

[Glenn Beck]

Not a good place. Pat, do you have that audio?

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, it's cut 20, where the president stops and answers a whole bunch of press questions like he always does when he was preparing for his trip to Europe and John Carl asks him a.

[Reporter]

Question, and what do you think Pam Bondi thinks she's gonna go after? Hate speech? Is that. I mean, of people. A lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech. Should probably go after people like you because you treat me so unfairly and say you have a lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they'll come after ABC. Well, ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech. Right. Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech. So maybe they'll have to go after you. Look, we want everything to be fair. It hasn't been. And the radical left has done tremendous damage to the country, but we're fixing it. We have right now the hottest country anywhere in the world. And remember one year ago, our country was dead. And now Washington, D.C. is fixed. And I fixed it. The mayor was fine. The mayor. The mayor was just fine. Okay? The mayor had the sick city for men. Many years. He's been mayor for many years. The one that fixed it was me and my people. And it is so safe. You should take your beautiful wife tonight and have dinner down there. You won't be shot, you won't be accosted. You won't even be looked at incorrectly by anybody.

[Glenn Beck]

So I, you know, I don't like the idea that he's saying, we're going to go after you.

[Stu]

It's more of him.

[Glenn Beck]

Just. It's just him. Yeah, that's him with the reporters. But we don't have hate speech.

[Producer/Announcer]

That.

[Glenn Beck]

That is something from the left. That is not something from the right. If you start getting into the hate speech, you end up being England. If we start saying there is hate speech, well, when the other side is in, they'll deem what we say is hate speech. No, there is no such thing as hate speech. You cannot be arrested or fined or anything else for what you say unless it directly leads to violence. Directly leads to violence. The Supreme Court is very clear on that. This is why we have a First Amendment. I can't believe we're the ones defending this.

[Pat Gray]

We're separating, of course, threatening speech from hate speech. It's just speech. You don't like, you don't want to hear it. And we've talked a million times. That's the only kind of speech that needs protection. Nobody cares about, hey, I love you speech. We don't mind that. Nobody has to protect that. But what Pam Bondi said the other day was absolutely chilling. Absolutely chilling. First of all, it's unconstitutional, it's un American, and it's wrong. Second, even if you're comfortable with the Trump administration, Pam Bondi, prosecuting speech, what happens when another Democrat is elected? Yeah. When Trump is no longer in office and it's, heaven forbid, Kamala Harris. Are you going to be comfortable with it then? I don't think so. We got to. I'm not comfortable with it with our side, you know, and. And Charlie, you know, as we mourn the loss of Charlie Kirk, this is something he felt really passionate about, too. He. He wasn't for prosecuting hate speech. He was for talking things out. And he showed that thousands of times.

[Glenn Beck]

He was specifically against the hate speech stuff.

[Stu]

Yeah. He actually tweeted this. This is in 2024. He tweeted this. Hate speech does not exist legally in America. There's ugly speech, there's gross speech, there's evil speech, and all in capital letters of it is protected by the First Amendment. Keep America free. Now, that is a as clear a statement as you can possibly make on.

[Glenn Beck]

What a fascist. Huh? What a fascist. All speech is free. My gosh. Why don't we just goose step through Charlie Kirk's life? My gosh, how could you possibly say that about him?

[Stu]

That's an amazing statement and it's infuriating. What, you know, as he, you know as what was written or engraved into these bullets. Right. About him being a fascist. Listen to what he. None of these people even know. That's one of the things that's so frustrating about it. It's the same thing, Pat, with the guy in killing the healthcare CEO. He had this statement about the healthcare system and it wasn't even a middle school understanding of the liberal arguments.

[Pat Gray]

He didn't even know what he talked about.

[Stu]

He wasn't talking about.

[Glenn Beck]

Good.

[Stu]

Yeah, he didn't even know what he was talking about. Obviously the same thing here. This guy, he's saying, oh, he had been planning this for a week, is the most recent situation, that he was only planning it for a week. He seemingly knew nothing about what Charlie Cook actually stood for. And yet here we are as a country, as his family, mourning all of this over what, over an attention seeking moron.

[Pat Gray]

It's so frustrating, the comment from the shooter that he couldn't tolerate his hate any longer. And then to shoot somebody down in cold blood. He didn't even. He didn't understand the definition of hate. Speaking to people and conversing and having a dialogue and trying to influence hearts and minds is. That's not hate. Hatred is when you do violence against people, that's the hate. And that disconnect with the left is really startling and kind of a concern, I would say, at this point.

[Stu]

Yeah. And when you see, like, I think there's been maybe, I don't know, four people on the left that have actually reacted to this in a, in a sane way, but see them at you, so you realize.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, yeah, wow.

[Stu]

I mean, I may be overcounding.

[Pat Gray]

You might be.

[Stu]

Ezra Klein's a good example of this that I thought he. Both of his statements. First of all, he came out and said, you know, Charlie Kirk, I didn't agree with him, but he was doing politics the right way.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Stu]

He was going to colleges, he was debating people. And then when the left wing, his audience pushed back against him, he stood his ground and said, this is, it's affected him in a real way. And you know, look, this shouldn't be, this shouldn't be an argument. This should not be a borderline issue. Yet, you know, Pat, I keep saying this all over, I hope it's a minority, but the fact that this many people are Willing to stand up publicly and film themselves reacting to a movie murder this way.

[Pat Gray]

It's incredible.

[Stu]

Is legitimately shocking even to people like us who are a tad jaded.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, yeah. No question.

[Glenn Beck]

Tad.

[Pat Gray]

Completely. If a tad. By, by that you mean completely jaded. Yeah, it's accurate, I would say.

[Stu]

I mean, Pat, you have to give me a break. I'm working with a guy who's wearing an armband.

[Pat Gray]

That's right. Now that's, that's not an arm band celebrating Armed Queer Salt Lake City, though, is it? Yeah, I think you.

[Stu]

I, I.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, is that what they meant by arms? Is that what they meant by arms? I'm not sure. Maybe. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll see. We'll see. Okay, coming up in a minute, we have. There's a great story. Let me see where this is from the Federalists. They did the five lies about Charlie Kirk, and these are the lies that are going around about him everywhere. And it, it is stunning when you actually hear what people are saying. And then, you know, if you've watched Charlie Kirk or knew Charlie Kirk for more than five minutes, you know, all of these things are lies. But most people don't. And so we're gonna debunk those five lies on Charlie Kirk from the Federal is coming up in just a second. First, our sponsor this half hour is my Patriot Supply. If you've been living anywhere except under a rock over the last few years, you know one important thing about disasters. It's not if. It is absolutely. When you've seen how quickly things can go sideways, and we're talking about all sorts of ways. Storms, storms, blackouts, global unrest, civil unrest, global tensions, supply chains, failing stores, emptying out. Whatever it is, it's coming. I've never seen that before. Really? Really? Because I haven't seen any of this crap before. Anyway, my Patriot Supply can fix your. Your fears in advance and give you the peace of mind that comes with emergency food kits that last up to 25 years, packed with delicious, easy to make meals that require no electricity. It's breakfast, lunch, dinner. 2,000 calories a day, a minimum. And the kit comes with a sturdy waterproof tub that you can stack in the closet under a bed, out of sight, but never out of reach. Don't wait for the panic. Be the person who saw it coming. Prepare now, because peace of mind is something you just can't ration. If you go to mypatriotsupply.com right now, you can get 90 preparedness essentials totaling $1,500 absolutely free. Find out how by going to mypatriotsupply.Com for details. My patriotsupply.com Glenn, get the details now.

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[Glenn Beck]

Is it.

[Producer/Announcer]

Time to wake up and wrangle the sheep? Glenn Beck continues next.

[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We are in Turning Point usa. Their facilities today getting ready in about an hour to move over to another one of their buildings. This campus is really unbelievable. And we're going to be moving over to Charlie's building where his studio is. His staff could not join us at 4 o' clock in the morning. They were like, can, can you guys work in another studio and just set it up yourself? We're like, yes, we can. They haven't had any sleep at all for. For days. But we're going over there. So I'm going to do that show. We have some breaking news on that show. So if you can make sure you listen to Charlie's show, you can listen to it [e-mail] and. And then I think I'm doing part of another show after that.

[Stu]

Oh, that's it.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, yeah. Wow.

[Glenn Beck]

That's it.

[Pat Gray]

Well, the good news is you look exhausted already. So you got that going for you.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you. Thank you, Pat. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, no, no problem.

[Glenn Beck]

It's been. It's been exhausting. I can't imagine what everybody feels like here.

[Stu]

I mean, you know, we hadn't mentioned this, but this is one week we are here one week after this happened.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my gosh, you're right.

[Stu]

This last Wednesday, you know, I mean, a week ago, you know, he was doing a show.

[Glenn Beck]

Isn't this. Geez, Pat and Stu, you were with me on 9 11. Is. Isn't this. Is that the closest thing we have to compare this to? I mean, this feels like 9 11.

[Pat Gray]

I remember. Does feel like it, right? Yeah. I wake up with that in my stomach every day.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And I. I'd wake up or. I mean, I'd be totally fine. It has happened to me today, right before we went on the air, totally fine. And then all of a sudden just like choke up with emotion and you're like, I'm gonna cry again. And I haven't. I haven't gone through that since 9 11.

[Stu]

It feels like the country's changed. That's what it feels like. It really feels like we've lost something serious. And that's the same feeling I had after 9 11.

[Glenn Beck]

I feel like we've gained something though, too.

[Stu]

It might be a change. I mean, and this would be very much consistent with the name Turning Point and Charlie's project as a whole. But maybe it leads to something really positive and it's certainly not an event that you'd ever wish for. But you know, I think if something like this were to have happened, if Charlie had knowledge of it, certainly what he would hope for is that I think number one people came to Christ over it. But.

[Glenn Beck]

And I think that's happening, I think.

[Stu]

It'S happening massively across all over the world. Yeah, yeah you're right. All over the world. We're seeing this in countries all over the world, people who hadn't gone to. I mean I can't tell you how many posts I've seen on you know, social media where people are saying I haven't been to church in five years and 10 years, in 15 years and I'm going this weekend and it's not.

[Glenn Beck]

It doesn't strike me like on 9, 11 people went to church the next Sunday because everybody was afraid. Yeah, and I don't think that's the feeling here. I think the feeling is this pull of God, you know, this pull of there's something more important here, something were missing, something that will help me make sense of everything in the world. Do you agree with that?

[Stu]

Yeah, I think so. It's different but the feeling, there's a lot of similarity as well. It feels that impactful.

[Glenn Beck]

It does, it does and it is. More from Turning Point USA in Phoenix, Arizona when we return.

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu]

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[Stu]

I'd rather not touch you. That's okay.

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Yeah, it really is okay. It really is. So we arrived about 4, 4:30 this morning at Turning Point USA. And it is an odd place to be right now. The workers hadn't come in. It was very quiet, very dark. Police still had the streets blocked off. You had to go through security to get here, lots of security to get here. But it's about this time that people start to funnel in and then start to go and leave things out in the street in front. And it's a large city block, long, large city block. And, and there are the. The sidewalks are probably, what, eight, ten feet deep, easy. Ten feet.

[Stu]

It's incredible.

[Glenn Beck]

And it just covered with notes and packages and. And flowers and balloons and teddy bears and. I mean, it's. It's really incredible what's happening.

[Stu]

The outpouring, absolute outpouring. And you're not just seeing it here, you're seeing it all over the country. And as you mentioned earlier, the world.

[Glenn Beck]

Really, really quite remarkable. Pat is here. He's in our Dallas studios as Stu and I are out in Phoenix. We were just talking about the five lies that are going around about Charlie Kirk. And it is, It's. It's reprehensible on what is going on, because the people who are saying these things, who are starting these things, they really need that. I mean, they know. They know like Stephen King. Really? You really think that Stephen King. You really think that Charlie Kirk is for the stoning of gay people?

[Stu]

I do think, though, a lot of these people have an image of everyone on the right.

[Glenn Beck]

That shows how unbelievably isolated you are.

[Stu]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now, King in particular, I think, like, I don't think Stephen King was lying on that. I think he. I don't think he's the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[Glenn Beck]

You gotta be. You can't write like he does.

[Stu]

He's not an idiot, right? He's not like he informed thoughts. But I think he is so completely isolated in his bubble that, you know, like, if someone says something terrible about a person like Charlie Kirk and your image of him is he's basically Hitler, well, you don't spend time fact checking it. You're like, oh, well, of course that guy's. That. He's that terrible human being. Of course he said something like that. You don't even bother to check it. You know, I mean, and, you know, it's like, you know, if you, if you ran into a quote from Hitler you had never seen that was negative on Jews, you, you know, as a journalist, you should probably check it. But, like, you might think, oh, yeah, that was probably true. He said a lot of things like that that's how they think about people who are like normal conservatives who want lower taxes and less regulation. And that is really, really disturbing. So these lies are really prominent. People really believe these things.

[Glenn Beck]

So there's a couple of them here.

[Producer/Announcer]

The.

[Glenn Beck]

Here are the five. The first one is Charlie Kirk said black people were better off in slavery. How big of an idiot do you think you have to be to believe that? Okay. I mean, unless you're Crockett. Unless your last name is Crockett, and I don't mean Davey. Black Americans were better off than slavery. No, that's absolutely. No, true. Not true. He never said anything like that. Now, what he. What you're probably getting this from. And I'm going searching. I mean, I am on a metal. I'm with a metal detector on the beach with, you know, board shorts and sandals and socks, looking for anything that kind of even sounds like that. But Charlie Kirk did say that, you know, they were talking about Jim Crow and how evil Jim Crow was. But he said, but if you look at the family, the black family before the passage of the Civil Rights act, which ended the Jim Crow laws, he said the family was thriving. And it was. It was. Blacks had a lower divorce rate than whites did In, I think, 1961. They. Their families were stronger. Dads were in the homes. They had lower crime rates. I mean, something happened around the time of the Civil Rights Act. Now, my theory is the Civil Rights act was a. Was done by progressives. I mean, these are the guys who said no to the Civil Rights act just four years before and, and, and worked hard to stop the Civil Rights Act. So what changed in those four years? The assassination of President Kennedy that changed your mind? Not even. Not even. Um, I mean, Johnson was the biggest racist up until he. Up until he died. Why would he create the Great Society? My theory. This is just a theory, but my theory is, is because finally, the progressives had a way to keep blacks under their thumb and destroy the family and destroy them as people. I mean, the Civil Rights act and more of the Great Society. The Great Society did more damage to the black family than anybody could have done outside of Margaret Sanger. I think that's what he meant by that. It was evil. You know, Jim Crow, et cetera, et cetera. But if you look at the numbers on specifics, family, etc. Etc. Blacks were doing better as families before the Great Society. And I think that undoing is absolutely. Is absolutely tied to it. And it was intentional myself, I believe that also the next claim is that that Charlie Kirk said black women have inferior intelligence. No, that's not what he said. Now they're quoting him saying that black women don't have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. How. How bad does your image have to be of people on the other side to believe that they could say that, that Charlie Kerr could say that?

[Stu]

I mean, just like, if you were to. You know, I think about this a lot of times when I think about how we react to crazy statements on the left. Like, my reaction a lot of times when I hear someone saying that is. Wait a minute.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, he.

[Stu]

Even if they believe that, they wouldn't.

[Glenn Beck]

Just blurt it out.

[Stu]

What is the context of this? I want to know. I want to understand. That should be your first question when you want to do a quote like that.

[Glenn Beck]

They rate this one true.

[Pat Gray]

This is true.

[Glenn Beck]

They. They rate it absolutely true. Until you get to the last paragraph when they say, well, we should point out he wasn't talking about all black women.

[Stu]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

He was talking about four specific black women. Okay. Oh, so talking about Joy Reid. Absolutely true. Sheila Jackson Lee. Absolutely true. Katanji Brown. Jackson. Jackson Brown. Absolutely true.

[Stu]

Well, she's not a biologist, Glenn.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, come on. No, she's not. She doesn't know how to. What a, what a woman is. I'm not a biologist. How to do that. Yeah. And Michelle Obama, which I don't think is true. I think Michelle Obama is actually rather smart and, and conniving and just flat out evil.

[Stu]

Yeah, there's a mix there. I mean, Katanji Brown, Jackson. You know, for all of the flaws I would have of. There is a Supreme Court justice obviously isn't a moron, but she is. I mean, I would say Sotomayor. I would be more confident in saying she's a moron, though I am for the job that she has. Ketanji Brown Jackson is a moron. You know, Joy Reid is a complete idiot. Was it Sheila Jackson Lee again? Those two, I think would fall into the same category.

[Chip Roy]

And you're right.

[Stu]

Michelle Obama I would not. I would, would not call an idiot. But you know, again, criticizing four members of a group does not mean you're criticizing the group.

[Glenn Beck]

He. He was criticizing people he thought were unqualified to make statements of. Of any intelligence on whatever topic it was that he was talking about. And what they did is they said he thinks that all black women are just dumb. I mean, that is so incredibly dishonest. Charlie Kirk said that gun deaths unfortunately worth it to keep the Second Amendment.

[Stu]

This Is this is one I've heard actually a lot. This is one that a lot of people on the left are using as justification for their celebration. He said, you know, well, you just gotta deal with the deaths if you want to have a second amendment. And you know, I don't know if you have the context.

[Glenn Beck]

I have his answer right here. Ready? You will never live in a society where you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That's nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so you can have the second amendment right to protect your other God given rights. It's a prudent deal. It is rational to think that way.

[Stu]

I mean, and every time if you have a free society, you take risks with it.

[Glenn Beck]

There will always be people horrible, horrible.

[Stu]

Human beings that all seem to donate to Democrat causes that will do things like we saw one week ago today. And that is, you know, again, he can't speak for Charlie Kirk. He spoke for himself so eloquently. But he, this, what even what occurred last week would not change his mind on that. He even, even he would not say, well we should, now that something terrible has happened to me and my family, we should overturn the second Amendment and people shouldn't have a right to defend themselves. You know, that's how he would feel about it. And he, this is if anything pointing to his incredible consistency on the rights that we have in this country. You know, it is a sad, sad, unfortunate fact about so many things.

[Chip Roy]

Things.

[Stu]

It's a sad, unfortunate fact about automobile travel that you do have to deal with some automobile accidents when you have highways where you can drive 55, 65, 75 miles an hour.

[Glenn Beck]

We all understandable. It's unreasonable to think that you could live in a, in a society with automobiles and not have some automobile accidents.

[Stu]

It is absolutely true.

[Glenn Beck]

That is exactly what he said about guns.

[Stu]

And frankly the other thing that's important, important here to understand is if you did eliminate all guns, you would not eliminate all murders even if they did in New.

[Glenn Beck]

They did in England.

[Stu]

Oh, they did.

[Glenn Beck]

They're all set. There's no murder, there's no violent crimes there.

[Stu]

I keep reading about them. Is that all false?

[Glenn Beck]

It's all false. That's, you know, that's. Yeah, that's Donald Trump. You know what I mean?

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Last one Charlie used an Asian slur. Now I'm not going to use the Slur, Obviously, I'm just going to say it's what happens sometimes with armor. There's a very famous saying about armor that has nothing to do with the Chinese or Asian at all. But I'm not even gonna put those together in this. In this context now for you. You'll have to figure that out. But the. The thing that's going around is he used that slur to yell at an Asian woman in the audience. Now, again, what kind of monster or how stupid.

[Stu]

You should know on. On its face. That's false.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Stu]

You shouldn't even have to look it up.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, how stupid would Charlie Kirk have to be? Okay, so, you know, there's. There's nothing. There's nothing like that. Well, I'm sorry. He was screaming something at a woman when they were talking about capitalism, and he was yelling sank, not the other word. Okay, okay. Say. And who is that from?

[Stu]

The Young Turk guy from Young.

[Glenn Beck]

Right. That's. That's what he was. That's what he was saying.

[Stu]

Oh, gosh. I mean, that's just so bad. You know, like the. The other one was the Stephen King situation where he quoted some horrible thing that Charlie Kirk said. And again, he admitted eventually that. That it was false, but it was. It was. He was quoting someone else in an incident and critiquing that position, which was a bad position, but he was bringing it up to quote it and critique it, which is a very standard thing that they've done on the left. I mean, this is a standard tactic of Media matters. When you're quoting someone else or you're saying something, they'll act as if you said.

[Glenn Beck]

You repeat a lie often enough, and the public will remember it. Glenn Beck is quoting Hitler. Glenn Beck loves Hitler. Yeah, Hitler said that. But that's not who. That's not what I was saying. It had nothing to do with the conversation. For the love of Pete, again, if.

[Stu]

You had something against Charlie Kirk, you wouldn't need to go to this stuff. If our opinion of Kirk, which was a guy who worked hard to debate people, who tried to practice politics and civic life the right way, who tried to be a shining light for his faith, which was vitally important to him and his family, if that vision of Charlie Kirk was false, you wouldn't need to go to these things.

[Glenn Beck]

No.

[Stu]

You could come up with 50 different things he said that were really offensive. Instead, what you come up with are lies, because that's what you're in the business of.

[Glenn Beck]

And there is a problem. We now know, and we'll have more on this later today on the Charlie Kirk SHOW and then on tomorrow. But we now know that the Chinese and Russia are involved with disinformation campaigns based on Charlie Kirk trying to get us to push us into civil war. And we know it for a fact now. So just be very careful what you read online and and don't necessarily repeat everything that you see.

[Chip Roy]

All right.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu]

Kind of isolated over here so far. I don't know. It's gonna be really hard to be in that studio. You know, just you do have, considering.

[Pat Gray]

Everything going on, somebody's gonna be a ball of tears in about half an hour would be my guess. So. Yeah. Take some tissues.

[Stu]

Through a somewhat emotional commercial without breaking down. I can't even imagine what this is going to be like.

[Glenn Beck]

It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough for you, too.

[Stu]

It is going to be tough for me. It's all I think this has hit people in ways that they didn't really even Expect for sure. And it's just so impossible. And then you start thinking of everything that's going on out because we, we tend to process these things in our own experience. You know, then you start thinking about, you know, his family and everything they're going through. It is. It is just going to be very difficult. By the way, good time to bring up givesendgo.com 912project. These are funds going to the family. If you want to help and just say thank you to Charlie and for all the work and Erica for all the work that they've done. You know, if you can help, it would be greatly appreciated. Givesendgo.com 912 Project There's a couple things.

[Glenn Beck]

Are going to be hard for me today. One is in this box. I brought this box with me.

[Stu]

Yeah. What's in the box?

[Glenn Beck]

You'll find out in half an hour. I only want to go through it once. But I brought something for the show today that I. I mean, I would tell a story that I've never told anybody before about Charlie. And it just shows his grace and his. But I thought about it yesterday and as I was thinking about that conversation, I went into the vaults and I pulled something out and. And I spent all day yesterday thinking about what he told me. And so I'm gonna start there today. And then also my daughter and David Osmond were in the studio late last night working all night on a tribute song that David and Cheyenne really wanted to come to the funeral on Sunday. But she's like, I don't think I can handle it, dad. She was there.

[Stu]

She was what, 10ft away and she.

[Glenn Beck]

Said, I don't think I can handle it. But she made a tribute song along with David Osmond and I haven't even heard it yet. I. So I'm gonna play it for the first time. Me hearing it too.

[Stu]

Oh, my God.

[Glenn Beck]

Send a tarp.

[Stu]

Forget the kleenex.

[Pat Gray]

No kidding.

[Producer/Announcer]

Wow.

[Stu]

This is gonna be a disaster.

[Producer/Announcer]

Right?

[Glenn Beck]

So that's coming up.

[Producer/Announcer]

This is Glenn.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

Foreign.

[Pat Gray]

It's Pat and Jeffy Glenn and Stu just just left the show because they're setting up to do Charlie's show over in the actual in Charlie's studio, which I guess they weren't in this morning. So they're going over there to get it all ready and have it up by, what is it, noon, Noon Eastern time. So meanwhile we've been talking about some of the follow up of the court appearance yesterday for the first time of Charlie Kirk's shooters. And they're looking into other aspects and other people in other groups and was there anybody else involved? Because it seems like a lot of people knew about it in advance and we're starting to hear some of that information is that people said things that might have been just coincidence but other things that probably weren't coincidence and maybe foreknowledge of this, I don't know. But one one of the groups are looking into is a trans group in Salt Lake City called Armed Queers slc. Now there, I don't know if anybody else has noticed this. I've lived in Utah on two separate occasions, six years at a time and each of those broken up by going to other places.

[Glenn Beck]

Beautiful.

[Pat Gray]

But I'll tell you, the changes that have occurred in Utah and Salt Lake City over the years have been somewhat surprising. I moved to Utah the first time from Montana in the early 80s. So when I arrived there as a 20 or 21 year old kid, I guarantee that had I sought out a local chapter of Armed Queers slc, I would have been greatly disappointed in my search at that time.

[Producer/Announcer]

You don't think they exist?

[Pat Gray]

I don't think they were around back then.

[Producer/Announcer]

Maybe just like the starter.

[Pat Gray]

No, I don't even think this starter group was in place quite yet.

[Producer/Announcer]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

Different place, different environment. Now it's amazing how much Salt Lake City, Utah has changed, but it has. And now they've got groups like Armed Queers, slc and they, they must be very proud of that.

[Producer/Announcer]

We've seen their fly.

[Pat Gray]

Proud.

[Producer/Announcer]

We've seen their flyers.

[Pat Gray]

We have. Which comes with a trans person armed with an AK47 or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Looks pretty militant.

[Producer/Announcer]

Really.

[Pat Gray]

Looks pretty frightening. And meanwhile, everybody on the left is still trying to say this was done by someone on the right. This is a conservative Republican who, who committed this killing of Charlie Kirk. I know Glenn and Stu played this earlier, but I wanted to touch on it as well. Jimmy Kimmel talking about how desperate MAGA is to portray the killer as not one of them.

[Producer/Announcer]

And this is where we continue to see the polls saying about the spin.

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Producer/Announcer]

And the belief because.

[Pat Gray]

Because of this kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Here's what Kimmel had to say.

[Glenn Beck]

We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

[Producer/Announcer]

They are. Yeah, they are. They are. They are doing everything.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, the guy is one of theirs. And they're trying to blame us for it. They're trying to. That's how desperate they are.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah. Surprise. They don't have the viewership for those late night shows.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. Isn't it stunning? Huh? That's weird.

[Producer/Announcer]

That is weird.

[Pat Gray]

Why have audiences forsaken them? Somebody will have to do a study.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah, that's.

[Pat Gray]

Sometime that's what we need. Because I. I'm sure it can't be just because they're babbling buffoons. That can't be it. Right?

[Producer/Announcer]

That can't be it. I think, I think his, his deal actually goes for another three or four years.

[Pat Gray]

I think he and what's his face, Jimmy Fallon are both kind of locked.

[Producer/Announcer]

In for a while.

[Pat Gray]

Fallon's not as bad as Colbert and Kimmel, but he's still occasionally agonized, isn't him?

[Producer/Announcer]

I mean, I don't remember now, but I think he's the one that they cut back to four nights a week.

[Pat Gray]

Yes, I believe so.

[Producer/Announcer]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

And the other one, they took away the band.

[Pat Gray]

Which has got to hurt, you know. What are you going to do with that band? What are you.

[Producer/Announcer]

I don't know. Without the Band don't know the answer to that. I don't know.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, you can without the 200 employee personnel. Okay. You gotta have 200 to 250.

[Producer/Announcer]

Clearly.

[Pat Gray]

You know, they all to do an hour.

[Producer/Announcer]

Absolutely. No, they all have.

[Pat Gray]

I mean, it's an hour show four nights a week. How do you do it with less than 200 people?

[Producer/Announcer]

I don't.

[Pat Gray]

I don't know.

[Producer/Announcer]

I don't know.

[Pat Gray]

It's a mystery. So you got to cut it back to four nights. You know, you can't do all five. That's ridiculous. That would be silly.

[Producer/Announcer]

So maybe, you know, it was between the writers of the band. He was like, oh, no, band's got to go.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah, that could very well be. Could very well.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

The lie is being perpetuated, though, on the left that this was somebody on the right. Heather Cox Richardson. Ever heard of Heather? Center left historian. Has the biggest following of any individual on Substack.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay.

[Pat Gray]

And is spreading, I guess. Richardson has 2.6 million subscribers. Oh, wow. So that's pretty awesome.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Has a newsletter. She is a history professor at Boston College. Has interviewed Biden. Planning to interview the Bulwark. By no means is she a fringe figure, nor. Nor at least on the surface, radical, according to this article. I don't know who she is, so maybe she is radical Richardson. Okay. Yeah. But on Sunday, Richardson spread the ridiculous lie that Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin is somehow conservative and he disliked Kirk because he was not right wing enough.

[Producer/Announcer]

Right.

[Pat Gray]

That's where that we keep hearing this.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yes.

[Pat Gray]

And maybe because we tested this out on. On my show the other day with Grok4.

[Producer/Announcer]

It was, it was worded in Grok4. Some of that. Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

And Grok4 claimed that this shooter was angry with Kirk because he wasn't conservative enough. I mean, that's outrageous. And obviously he's not. He's. He's completely extreme left. But she wrote, in fact, the alleged shooter was not someone on the left. The alleged killer is a young white man from a Republican gun enthusiast family who appears to him who appears to have embraced the far right, disliking Kirk for being insufficiently radical. So untrue. Oh, come on. And how do you stick to that when, you know, the. The court hearing yesterday produced the text exchange between the killer and his roommate. I mean, you can't even possibly make the case.

[Producer/Announcer]

And then I can make the case like ABC did of how loving it was between the two. You could make that case.

[Pat Gray]

Well, he was surprised how loving it was, and I think he himself fell in love after discovering, I think he did. How sweet and tender it was.

[Producer/Announcer]

I don't know.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. Okay, here's. Here's what the ABC reporter had to say about the exchange.

[ABC News Reporter]

We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it. But also it was very touching in a way that I think many of us didn't expect. A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him my love, and I want to protect you, my love. So it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardize the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And on the other hand.

[Pat Gray]

On the other hand, you know, speaking.

[ABC News Reporter]

So lovingly about his.

[Pat Gray]

Lovingly. He's lovingly speaking about his partner that he loved. It's beautiful. Really? On the other hand, it's beautiful. I mean, that's incredible.

[Producer/Announcer]

It is. It absolutely is.

[Pat Gray]

It's mind boggling. You just can't. You know, as we talked about on my show this morning, that five years ago you couldn't have predicted that we would be in the place where we are right now, where you've got an ABC News reporter, a network ABC reporter saying things like this, trying to reposition this killer as somebody who's loving.

[Producer/Announcer]

Right. Right.

[Pat Gray]

Wow. When we already had all the news about what he was, which he also mentioned in the text between he and his roommate, all of the engravings that he put on.

[Producer/Announcer]

Oh, yeah. On the bullets.

[Pat Gray]

On the bullets.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Hey, fascist catch. Bella, chow, bella. Ciao, bella, ciao. Which songs? Which. They're lyrics from an Italian song used as a rally cry for anti fascist resistance fighters during World War II. Then he also read. Wrote on these bullets, if you read this, you are gay. Lmao. Wow. I mean.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Just despicable.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Just.

[Pat Gray]

Just hard to even look at.

[Producer/Announcer]

Really silly stupid stuff.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. And horrific. And. And of course, evil. Let's not forget. Just plain flat out evil.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah. And what. What was the report on the. On his girlfriend.

[Pat Gray]

That his male girlfriend. Yes. Okay.

[Producer/Announcer]

We were. It was the report. Someone was talking about how evil she was.

[Chip Roy]

Right, Right.

[Producer/Announcer]

It was the family member of hers.

[Pat Gray]

His. That day. Them.

[Glenn Beck]

Sure.

[Pat Gray]

Gym.

[Producer/Announcer]

That she was so evil. So she really.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

She really played a big role in his. In his transition.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

Into becoming, it seems like this evil person.

[Pat Gray]

Although I You know, when you read the text between them, he was confused about. Wait, you didn't do this, right? Tell me you didn't do this. He seemed to be upset that he might have been the killer. So I don't know. And Governor Cox in Utah presented him as if he'd been helpful, you know, the room, helpful the whole time cooperating with the authorities.

[Producer/Announcer]

So.

[Pat Gray]

But yeah, we're still, we're still in.

[Producer/Announcer]

This place where it just, no kidding.

[Pat Gray]

Feels like a, a week full of morning.

[Producer/Announcer]

Well, it definitely, it has wake up.

[Pat Gray]

With that pit in my stomach every morning. And again, I didn't know Charlie. Glenn knows him very well. They were good friends, but for some reason we never got to meet him.

[Producer/Announcer]

I know I was, we were talking about this the other day. I just amazed. I never, I never did have a chance to meet him and was, you know, wasn't by on purpose.

[Pat Gray]

Glenn says the, the compound, the campus there of Turning Point USA is pretty darn imp bet.

[Producer/Announcer]

I bet it's beautiful.

[Pat Gray]

So he's created something really incredible and it's in such a short period of time.

[Producer/Announcer]

Right. And it's going to be, you know, appearing to be stronger than ever.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

Which is great. Even with, you know, such tragic loss.

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Producer/Announcer]

You know, it's going to, it's going to grow. The, the mission.

[Pat Gray]

Did you know we talked about this a little bit the other day, but I think the number was like 18,000 or 32,000. There have now been 56,000 inquiries into starting a Turning Point USA chapter.

[Producer/Announcer]

Wow.

[Pat Gray]

A chapter. Not just, hey, I want to be a member. 56,000 new chapters could potentially, probably not all of them will pan out. But that's, it's pretty amazing. Pretty amazing. Triple eight, seven, two, seven. Beck.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu]

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[Glenn Beck]

GL.

[Pat Gray]

Jeffy finishing off the Glenn Beck program for Glenn Stu. Who are on their way right now to getting Charlie Kirk's studio up and operational and doing the show from there.

[Producer/Announcer]

Because his wife said that it was going to continue on.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. And you know, and be bigger than ever.

[Producer/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Pat Gray]

Is what she's pretty much vowed, so.

[Producer/Announcer]

Good.

[Pat Gray]

On a different subject entirely. Did you happen to see that the Publishers Clearinghouse, the big sweepstakes people, really, the original ones, the ones I know of originally.

[Producer/Announcer]

The Prize Patrol.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. Right.

[Producer/Announcer]

That's what, that's what they. We. That's what we know them from as the Publisher's Clinic House Prize Patrol.

[Glenn Beck]

They were.

[Producer/Announcer]

That was long before. Before the lottery.

[Pat Gray]

Oh, way. Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

I mean, people, that was your chance to get rich. You wanted them showing up at your house with the giant check and the.

[Glenn Beck]

Cameras and the balloons.

[Pat Gray]

It's been going on for almost 60 years. So it's. It's been pretty big and, you know, part of Americana. It's bankrupt now. Bankrupt.

[Glenn Beck]

And.

[Producer/Announcer]

But they put all the money that people won, you know, these big prize winners that the Prize Patrol gave out.

[Pat Gray]

Right.

[Producer/Announcer]

They put all that money that's in.

[Glenn Beck]

A separate pile for them.

[Producer/Announcer]

Right. They continue to get their money.

[Pat Gray]

No, not right. No, no. That money's gone. I guess it's a pay as you go thing, which is.

[Glenn Beck]

I.

[Producer/Announcer]

Isn't that a Ponzi scheme?

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

I just think.

[Ryan Morrow]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

Loud. I don't know.

[Pat Gray]

It feels like it. It does feel like this is a crime because it really ticks me off. They supposedly gave away this money, which you can't. It's not like the lottery where you can take the upfront payment and then be done with Them.

[Producer/Announcer]

But I will say that's why you take the. The cash payout.

[Pat Gray]

Exactly why, as I keep saying.

[Producer/Announcer]

Well, 30 years and the money keeps. Keeps growing. And that's what you want to do. Yeah. And 15 years down the road, the lottery says we're broke.

[Pat Gray]

Sorry, anybody. And the new company who purchased Publishers Clearinghouse just said, any winner prior to July 15th of this year. Sorry, just no more.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

We're not taking care of you.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah. There's no more money.

[Producer/Announcer]

This new gaming company, how is it.

[Pat Gray]

Possible they didn't put that money aside into an account that would accrue interest? And I don't know how it could pay it out.

[Producer/Announcer]

I don't know how the bankruptcy judge allows them to take it over without.

[Glenn Beck]

Covering this as part of the deal.

[Pat Gray]

Yeah.

[Producer/Announcer]

Because what was left, I think. I think I read it was like they had at least 26 million left to pay out for whatever. How many of her people they had had won prizes. Yeah. And they only. It was only ended up being like a million a year or whatever for the next. Well, a lifetime. And they were guessing that most of it would be like 26 years down the road. Okay, so it'd be 26 million. Okay. So put that in. In the. In a pile. And that's something. Yeah. Yes. Instead of something.

[Glenn Beck]

Nope.

[Producer/Announcer]

You're not getting a check. Good luck. God bless. Yeah. I know that you were getting 5,000 a week for the last 20 years.

[Pat Gray]

But you counted on that. But you might as well.

[Producer/Announcer]

And I get that. I get the whole thing where they.

[Glenn Beck]

Should have saved it. It wasn't real money anyway.

[Producer/Announcer]

What are they doing? Well, yeah, but if you get that money every. Every week or you're counting on getting a check once a year. Yeah, you're definitely counting on it.

[Pat Gray]

Listen to how quickly this went South. In 2017, they had 854 million. In 2023, 182 million. This year, 1 to 10 million. That's not good.

[Producer/Announcer]

Nobody's buying.

[Pat Gray]

Magazine not good.

[Producer/Announcer]

This is Glenn, Becky.