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Glenn Beck
It is so funny today. If I'm not mistaken, today is the day the world found out that Barack Obama, on what week two of his presidency had been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. That's historically today. Now, the guy who's not gonna get a Nobel Peace Prize, who actually earned one, Donald Trump on that anniversary date announces peace in the Middle East. Now, it's got a long way to go, but everyone involved is shocked at this. Thank you, Donald Trump. Hopefully it holds, but looks like the hostages are coming home on Monday. We'll give you the details on this coming up in just a second. First, let me tell you about Relief Factor. Pain doesn't just slow you down, it rewrites your life. It starts scheduling your days around what hurts. You know, making excuses for the things you can't do that you used to do and used to love. But what if that wasn't your story anymore? What if you could take back your mornings, your hobbies, your life, just one simple packet at a time? That is Relief Factor. It's not a quick fix. It is not some crazy fad. It is a daily supplement that is specifically designed like ibuprofen and everything. I think they have two major ingredients that work on inflammation. This has four of the ingredients that are known to work. It combines them and it gives your body the ability to fight inflammation, which is what causes most of our pain and quite honestly, most of our disease as well. You gotta get rid of the inflammation. Try their three week quick start. Give it a try. For only $19.95. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800, the number for relief. 800 the number four relief. Well, hello, Stu, how are you?
Stu
Great day, Glenn.
Glenn Beck
It is.
Stu
What a great day, man. It is seriously.
Glenn Beck
Finally some good news.
Stu
Yeah, I know.
Glenn Beck
I mean, it could go away tomorrow, but let's have faith.
Stu
Can't go away tomorrow. The Blue Jays beat the Yankees. It's over. That series is over.
Glenn Beck
No, we were talking about peace in the Middle East.
Stu
Wait, what happened? No, that's fantastic. I mean, what an incredible development.
Glenn Beck
And who would have ever thought that you would have Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar and kind of Jordan, all in saying we're with the United States and Israel, we want peace. Here's how we get there. And Hamas does it.
Stu
These are all things that could not have possibly existed very recently.
Glenn Beck
No. And you know why I am convinced? I mean, I've talked to Donald Trump about so many different things, but the best example of this is he will not allow me to ask him a question about assassination in the future. Okay? I've asked him, are you concerned about. I don't even want to talk about it. Don't talk about it. Don't talk about it. He calls into existence. He knows the power of thought. He knows the power of language, and he is. He never will call something into existence like that. Okay? You can believe him or not believe him, but he will not ever do that. He only tries to think positively about things. He's called this into existence where everybody else said, you know, state Department says, can't be done, can't be done. Nobody wants to do this. That's too big of a. He doesn't care. He just walks in, he's like, hey, everybody, what do you say we changed the game entirely? What is it going to take for all of you to recognize Israel? Israel, what is it going to take for you to stop? And Gaza, what is it going to take for you to return the hostages? Let's do that deal. I mean, it's just this big thinking where he doesn't say, can't be done. He never says, can't be done, and that's why he moves mountains. It's just the power of positive thinking. It's the power of your thoughts are creative, so be careful, choose your thoughts and change the world.
Stu
And that's why he's able to cross these, you know, these lines that people just don't think things are possible even if, you know, we don't know how this is gonna turn out.
Glenn Beck
No, there's a lie.
Stu
To be clear, there's a million things that could go wrong with this piece.
Glenn Beck
Scriptures tell us, not gonna last.
Stu
Right?
Glenn Beck
You know what I mean?
Stu
You know, we don't know where this thing ends, but just the attempt, like, it's. I would say, argue. The same thing with Ukraine and Russia, right? Like he. He went in there with this idea of, I'm going to solve this, and that one has not been solved, right? He. But this is how he approaches these things, right?
Glenn Beck
And it's not that. It's not that he can control other people can. He can't control how Putin looks at it, et cetera, et cetera. But he doesn't say no to big ideas.
Stu
Yeah. Right.
Glenn Beck
That, you know, and that allows him to approach everybody, tries to nibble at the edges. On everything. On everything. Look at how this guy has moved mountains. It's because he comes in, he's like, yeah, we're not doing it that way anymore. Here's what we're going to do. You know, look at the difference in the State Department. Look at the difference in Marco Rubio. You know what I mean?
Stu
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Marco Rubio is like one of the.
Stu
Best.
Glenn Beck
State Department officials I've ever seen.
Stu
Secretaries of State.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Have you ever. Have you seen a better Secretary of State than him?
Stu
Well, Hillary, you gotta throw that into the conversation.
Glenn Beck
It's because they're just saying what's true. They're very clear. They don't compromise. I mean, they will compromise, but not on the principles. If these hostages are not returned on Monday or Tuesday, it'll be over. He's not gonna go. Okay, well, let's give you some more money. Let's do that. No, we're not flying cash onto a tarmac.
Stu
Is this his best issue?
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Stu
Of his entire presidency going back to the first term?
Glenn Beck
Yes. Historically speaking, for sure.
Stu
Because I think my argument would be the border, probably. And I do think this second term, the border, has been an overwhelming, unquestioned success. But, like, I think the basis for what happened here was set in the first Trump term.
Glenn Beck
It was.
Stu
This is really something that has extended over both terms. He didn't get enough credit for it in the first term. We argued that constantly.
Glenn Beck
No. And as soon as it came in, it was all reversed. People want war there. Yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't want war. You're right.
Stu
And people accused him of that. Of course, they always say warmonger and all these other things. I think he really does believe that to his core. And the only reason I think this stuff might be possible. And again, with all disclaimers aside, for a moment here, because we do know this is a very difficult road ahead on this, but the relationship.
Glenn Beck
Hang on just a second. This is not just a difficult road. This is the moonshot of peace deals.
Stu
Yeah. It's the one everyone mocks.
Glenn Beck
How many times were we burning up on the launchpad? I mean, this is the moonshot.
Stu
Yeah. And that's. We've already started to see Hamas whine about stuff who. God only knows where this ends. But the basis for this even to be possible was set up in his first term with the improvement of relationships between these other Arab countries in the region and Israel. The fact that, I mean, people Are like, oh, what's Israel even giving up here? They are allowing, if this goes through a bunch of these countries that for the past half century have attacked them every three years.
Glenn Beck
Don't, don't, don't, don't. It's 80 years.
Stu
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Glenn Beck
It's just since their founding, just since.
Stu
Their founding, have been attacked by a lot of these countries over and over again. And oftentimes in coalition with each other, they're allowing them to come in and if this goes down the road, oversee part of their own country. Right. They are giving up a massive thing here. And they only do that if they actually had some trust with these nations and of course trust with the United States to help enforce it.
Glenn Beck
Here's Trump's genius. You're exactly right. This was planted with the other countries last time with the Abraham Accords, okay? They gain trust, but the Palestinians didn't have any trust because remember, we're the great Satan, you know, little Satan, blah, blah, blah. He has gotten the rest of the countries in the Middle east to say, no, they're not the, the little Satan. They have a right to exist. We can coexist with them, blah, blah, blah. That's never been done. Okay, Never been done. He did that last time, remember when Qatar was attacked by Israel? Okay. Just recently. Yeah. And it's a big factor. And, and Donald Trump and everybody was like, wait, what are you doing? Donald Trump came out and read Benjamin Netanyahu the riot act and said, apologize, okay? And Benjamin Netanyahu did, okay, that's the key on this one. He, you don't, you can't take Donald Trump at the moment alone. You have to look at his strategy. He is playing three dimensional chess. When he said that, he knew that was the key. They're now, they're all saying, now that was the key because when he did that with Qatar and defended Qatar and said, hey, no, play nice, everybody play nice. And Benjamin Netanyahu did apologize. That separated the United States from Israel, as you know, just a little, you know, that we're all in it together. It's little Satan, we're big Satan. It showed that the President is a fair and neutral broker. And we'll look at both sides and Israel isn't always right, the Middle east isn't always wrong. He showed that to them. That was the moment that the Palestinians said, okay, now wait a minute, maybe he is a somewhat honest broker for being the great Satan. That's what brought this to a head and brought everybody to the table. And Said, okay, we can trust Donald Trump. That's an amazing thing.
Stu
Yeah, this is, you know, it's unequivocal here. And this is a, you know, you, you still have to get this over the finish line. But these are incredible accomplishments. They're accomplishments that every, I mean, it has become. For as long as I've been involved in politics and world events and cared about it at all, it has been the joke, oh, Middle east peace right around the corner. It has been the joke that it's impossible, that it will always be promised. And again, we gotta get there, but this is as close as we've ever been.
Glenn Beck
Would anyone ever say, Gaza should be the Riviera? You would say, no. No. Donald Trump, his vision from the beginning has been, this can be prosperous. This could be the Riviera. You just have to stop the terrorism. So he got the Middle east together, and the Middle east now says, we'll rebuild. We're not rebuilding it. We don't, I don't want a dime going to rebuild that. They'll rebuild it. They'll guarantee the peace there because they'll have their money invested in it in hotels and golf courses and whatever they want to do and make it the Riviera. That changes everything, all the dynamics, because now the, the Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Qatar and everything else, they're going to be pulling, pouring billions of dollars into it. They're not going to want it wrecked. I mean, he's just, he's brilliant, the guy. If he doesn't get a Nobel Prize, assuming this, the hostages come home next week, you know, God only knows, but the guy deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
Stu
And I, I think they would just dissolve the, the award before they came to him. They're like, no, no, no, that Nobel.
Glenn Beck
Prize thing, that was yesterday. We don't do that anymore.
Stu
We, we didn't pay our rent. The building's closed. Like, they're. But he will quite obviously deserve it if this happens.
Glenn Beck
Have you heard what the rest of the world is saying about him? I mean, all the leaders from all over the world are like, this is amazing. And the only reason it happened is because of Donald Trump. What is the left gonna say? How do you, how do you, how do the protesters. If this ends? I mean, this is, this is why it won't end. If it doesn't, because there is too much power that they'll be giving up on the streets of Europe and America and all over the world. How do you have the Palestinian protesters on the streets tearing our cities apart? You don't you don't. It's over. It's over. I mean, this is just genius from start to finish. All right. More in just a second. First, let me tell you about Simplisafe. By the way, we have a story to tell you about this Texas business owner who criticized the H1B visas and is now just being hammered. His business is being run out here in Texas, and even a church has come out. And when you hear the story, you'll be like, wait, Freedom of speech. Well, I mean, what is happening? What is happening? And it's here in Texas. We'll talk about that. And I had a private meeting yesterday with Governor Abbott. He's going to be joining us on Monday. I asked him, why would you send the troops? Why? Why? Why Texas? Oh, my gosh. His answer is so bri. And again, Donald Trump. Donald Trump reached out and said, I need the Texas National Guard. Okay, I'm willing to send them. What exactly do you need? Texas National Guard. I'll tell you why they. He asked for Texas. Again, genius, in just a second. First, let me tell you about Simply Safe. When your house goes quiet, that's when you notice everything. The home hum of the air conditioner, the headlights drifting across the wall at night, the creaks and groans that makes your house, I don't know, a little unnerving at times, unless you have Simplisafe, Then it's just noise. Simplisafe builds a layered perimeter around your house. Entry sensors for doors and windows. Motion and glass break to catch what you can't see. Cameras to check in life, safety detectors for smoke and CO and CO2 and water. And if something trips, you get a clear alert 24. 7. Professional monitoring can verify it and get help fast. So the setup is straightforward. There's really, you know, no wires, no holes in the wall, no strangers camped in your living room. You customize the system, place the sensors, connect the app, and you're protected. The same day, within 30 minutes. It is really good. It's Simply Safe. Simplisafe.com Beck simply safe.com Beck claim 50% off a new system today. That's simplisafe.com Beck there is no safe like simply safe. 10 seconds, stage 90. Okay, so let me just talk about, you know, the shutdown here for a second. They're having another vote. I think it's the seventh vote today. It's not gonna pass. Um, but is it just me? And I haven't heard anybody talk about this. I don't think. I mean, I Think the shutdown show America what government, you know, what essential government actually means. And, you know, with an exception of the air traffic controllers, which, by the way, if I were the president, I'd fire you. You don't show up for work. You are essential to the economy, to the security, to everything in America. You just like Reagan said, you don't strike or I'll fire you and replace you. He's got to figure out a way to get the all of the essential services paid and moving. And then I got to tell you, I would just be like, no, we're not negotiating. And I think if, I think if this president went four months and he could cover all of the essential services, no one would care. No one would care because they're getting everything. And then he could say, yeah, you know, 40% of the government's not even showing up for work. So why do we have that 40% of that government? Cut it. You could convince people that this guy doesn't, you know, fall. Planes don't fall out of the skies, but he's got to cover the essential services. Let's see, there's. What else. What is Antifa is trending today online. That's interesting that people are now like, what is Antifa?
Stu
Just an idea, Glenn. It's just an idea. It's not. There's no organization, there's no real members, not a real group. It's just an idea. There's nothing you can do about it. Might as well just let them burn things down.
Glenn Beck
So funny, because that's what the show I did last night was. You know, is Antifa just a, you know, a group of ragtag rebels that there's no, there's no, you know, organization behind it, there's no leadership, etc. Etc. And I went through some of the possible funding for Antifa and just asked the question all the way. Wait a minute. This group we know wrote a million dollar check to anifa. If there's no organization, who did they make the checkout to? What bank did they deposit it in? I also showed you last night that Fidelity and Charles Schwab, their charitable services, are giving to defense of Antifa. If I had Charles Schwab or Fidelity, I would Charity, their charity arm, I would ask, what is that? What are you doing with that? But I mean, it's all going to come out in the wash because the president met in the White House yesterday and he met with several people. One of them was a Blaze reporter who has, you know, frontline experience with antifa and talk to them about, you know, what they see, what connections they see, et cetera, et cetera. And I got to tell you, I think he's going to take them on. It's going to be a tough one because there's so much money involved. And when he starts going into things like act blue, you start peeling that onion and you just see the layers come off over and over and over again. And when, if he actually does that, it's going to change the world. But the left is not going to like it. They're not going to like it. But you know, maybe we don't have the Palestinians in the streets trying to burn our cities down now and you know, trying to kill the Jews, et cetera, et cetera. So maybe we take that one off the table and we just have to deal with antifa here for a little while. So it's a good day in America.
Stu
It really is. It's bizarre too, like reading some of the coverage. The New York Times has a story. As Israelis breathe a sigh of relief, some ask why a deal took so long.
Glenn Beck
Oh my gosh.
Stu
I have an idea. I thought maybe, maybe cuz Hamas didn't approve all the previous efforts and didn't release the hostages. That's actually what I think the actual answer to that question.
Glenn Beck
I was thinking that maybe because Hamas and Hezbollah were set up by the Grand Mufti after meeting with Hitler back in the 1940s. And so they've been wanting to kill the Jews the whole time and get a longer won't accept a two state solution ever.
Stu
But there's paragraphs like this in the story. With much of the country off to work, off from work. People dance in circles along the main Tel Aviv thorough thoroughfare. Huge billboards had appeared that read thank.
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Stu
What a day, what a day, what a day. Obviously, you know, peace in the Middle east.
Daniel Keane
Great.
Stu
And then also the Blue Jays. Yes, defeating the New York Yankees. What a wonderful day.
Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
Hey, make sure you join us and get everything you need. Blaze.com renew your subscription now@blazetv.com Glenn welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. So there is a Texas business owner who has had his life and his family's life turned completely upside down because he made a social media post and he was criticizing H1B visas. He said, let me see, I want to get the quote exactly right. He said, we have to cancel the H1BS. I want my kids to grow up in America, not India. Okay, you could read that as absolutely racist. You could read that a million different ways. Of course, nobody read that as anything other than absolutely racist. Um, now he has. His family has been doxed. They have received death threats. The business was review bombed. Somebody claimed to have access to millions of Indian Americans across America, tried to extort him and his family for 20, 30,000. He deleted the post. He said, like, that's not what, that's not what I mean. Now his church, I think, has kicked him out of his church. What the hell is that? We wanted to have him on to explain. Daniel Keane is with us now. Hello, Daniel. How are you, sir?
Daniel Keane
Good. How you doing, Glenn?
Glenn Beck
Very good. So let me ask you about the initial comment first. How did you mean that?
Daniel Keane
Yeah, I certainly didn't mean it in racial terms. What I was trying to express is my opposition to the immigration policies, which is why I called out the H1B visa in particular. And yeah, it just obviously was, as you mentioned, was definitely construed in racial terms. And I was accused of having racial animosity as opposed to just wanting better, wiser immigration policy for our country.
Glenn Beck
I heard somebody yesterday, I was standing by somebody, I just overheard a conversation, and they said they live someplace here in Texas and they have exactly the same view. And what they were saying was, you know, I grew up in this neighborhood and it has Fundamentally changed overnight. And I'm not saying that, you know, they're deadbeats or anything else. It's just a completely different culture that is not American. And that happened before with Italian, you know, Italians moving in, et cetera, et cetera, back in the past. But you know, there should be some desire to, you know, meld into our society and become Americans. I think the Indians do do that, but it's getting more and more rare with, with immigrants and certainly not happening with illegals.
Daniel Keane
Yeah. And you know what's interesting, I think a lot of people would find interesting is the Indian Indians I do know had no, they took no offense, they had no objection to the post. It was the sort of left leaning Americans and then it was foreign attacks, bought attacks on the business. So interesting enough, you know, they didn't deem it as racial, as racist. And they actually have reached out to me, many of them, to voice their agreement. They see the violation of sort of the normal immigration standard of assimilation or even a visa fraud. And they too also think there needs to be reform and needs to be a pulling back on just the sheer mass amount in such a concentrated area, specifically here in Dallas too.
Glenn Beck
So, okay, so let me just go through some things. Your business was attacked, your family has been attacked. You, I mean, you have gone to this gym forever. They know you. You even talk to them for a while and you know, after this and everybody was cool. And then all of a sudden you lose your gym membership. You're now, you're no longer welcome here. And then the one I really want to talk to you about is your church. What happened at your church?
Daniel Keane
Yeah. Oh man.
Stu
Yeah.
Daniel Keane
So that with the church. Obviously initially when the post went viral, it got significant traction, which when I posted it, I had 300 followers on X. Not as significant really, just speaking to friends and people I knew. But yeah, went viral and obviously the threats came pretty, pretty quickly. I sort of in a panic deleted it, thinking I wasn't expecting to be a public figure overnight so my information was accessible to people. So talking to my wife in the middle of the night, we deleted the post. I deleted the post and following up, the church reached out to me. And you would think that the church was concerned with the extortion and the threats and the, the accusations and the attacks in the business. But they were very, very concerned with the public image of the church being brought in to my expression of the opposition of the policies. And so over the course of.
Glenn Beck
Did you mention the trails church? Because. Let me bring them in. Did you mention the Trails church?
Daniel Keane
No, it was easily accessible that, like, I was a member. I'm a heavily involved member of the church. I lead was leading Bible studies, leading community groups, coordinating services. So I was not a. I was on staff, but I was as about as involved as a member as you could be.
Glenn Beck
Okay, so they know you and they call you in and they say, this is. Your post was uncharitable. Okay. All right. So they interview you and it's not really. It doesn't turn out to be like, hey, let's solve this. It seems almost like an inquisition, at least the way I have read about it. Can you tell me what happened?
Daniel Keane
Yeah. Yeah. So immediately following the post, it was a phone call with three elders and me and them expressing that they. They deemed it as racist and not, quote, not loving my neighbor. And, you know, obviously my opposition to that was, which. Which neighbor are we talking about? Because I'm. I'm acting out of love for my friends and the members of the church who are being harmed, harmed by these policies. And they were more concerned with how an Indian immigrant might understand what. You know what I mean by that with that post. So that was followed. That was a couple or about an hour and a half conversation. Then there was another phone call. And then that was on the Wednesday. And then actually that was the Wednesday that Charlie was assassinated.
Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh.
Daniel Keane
And it changed the dynamic quite a bit. It gave me some fortitude looking at the just the impact he had on my life and on so many others. And so it gave me some fortitude to continue to express that. I didn't think that I sinned with the post. I thought that I was honoring God and caring for my neighbor. And I was willing to kind of suffer the consequences if they wanted to continue in the meetings. And it was in that meeting that they expressed that this was church discipline that I was in the process of, which is Baptist is a very serious thing at the end. Typically for Congregationalists, you're brought before the church and you're voted to be removed and treated as a gentile and unbeliever. And so that was very concerning that I was in the process. I never in my life thought that I would be in the process of church discipline. And Charlie's death kind of changed the dynamic a little bit. They brought me in one more time with my wife. They insisted my wife was there. She's eight and a half weeks pregnant or eight and a half months pregnant. I'm sorry, at that. At that point, we're due the Next week. And so she observed and seven elders and me. And they peppered me with questions for two hours.
Glenn Beck
What were the questions?
Daniel Keane
The questions were in depth nuance of my views on the issue. And I just, just answered them with, you know, it's not. I don't have a racial animosity. I was on staff with Campus Crusade for Christ. I worked with international students for three, sharing the gospel with them. I have tons of affection and love for a good dynamic of immigration policies that has a sunset and they're returning back to the country and we're leaving on good terms and all those things. Their concern was that just the policy itself, my position, the expression of my position was deemed as not loving towards other people. And I just wholeheartedly disavow that and don't affirm that made clear my views on race, that I'm not racist. I don't view people with racial animosity or hatred. In fact, I think these policies actually, when done incorrectly, they lead to racial animosity. When you bring in so many people at one time into one area and you see that, you talk to people and you hear about them feeling like they're losing their country, there's, there's a, there's a, there's a animosity that, that's kind of stirred up and there's, there's not brotherly love and affection for one another when that happens.
Glenn Beck
And there should be as much concern about the people who feel that way. You should have as much concern about, hey, let's sit down, let's talk about this. Let's find the way so you don't feel that way. Let's find the way to slow down or whatever it is, not stop, but to make sure that you're comfortable. They're comfortable. What I mean, so what was the outcome with the church?
Daniel Keane
Yeah, certainly it's their right to express that. Right. The outcome was it ended with another meeting, another two hour kind of meeting because I'm not willing to admit that I sinned in this way. I am therefore not submitting to the elders and I need to find another church. I'm not, I'm. I was asked formally to leave the church. They did not bring me before the church to vote. So there wasn't in their terms, on a technicality. I wasn't technically excommunicated. I was just told with, with eight elders and staff that I was, I needed to go to another church, which I said, okay, give me like, I'll do that, but I need to find another church. And then ultimately they ended up making comments to the church verbally. And when saying that I wasn't a member, which was news to me and my wife as well. And so we reached back out to them. We said, hey, we do want to continue to be members until we find a new church. They. They said, that's too late. You're not a member anymore. And. And then I, you know, then the articles were published, and now I'm talking to you. So.
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Wow. So where do you stand? Have you found a new church?
Daniel Keane
We've had numerous people reach out to us, express, hey, you're welcome here, you're welcome here. And so we've got a list of great churches, I think, and great pastors who have been even counseling me immediately. I kind of reached out to other pastors just to get some other perspective. Like, am I. Am I? Did I sin? Did I really do something wrong? Because I don't feel like I did. And they kind of were able to counsel us, actually counsel my wife and I through the process, whereas the elders just wanted to kind of run an inquisition on me.
Glenn Beck
Why do you say, why do you think they did that?
Daniel Keane
I mean, I think that they are very concerned in the most charitable way possible towards them. I think they're concerned with me being a stumbling block for people to come to join the church, to come to know Christ. And that's their primary concern.
Glenn Beck
If that was the primary concern, I would not be a member of any church. There's no way any church would. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've had, you know, even in my own church, people say, well, he's a member, then I don't know what a member is. Okay, well, don't go to church because of the members. Go because of the truth of the gospel. That's what you're there for. We're all on the path of trying to be better people, trying to get to the truth one way or another. I mean, wow. You only take the people you agree with.
Daniel Keane
Yeah, that was. That was something I expressed towards the end was it ultimately was like my final concern. And is my. The reason why I'm willing to talk about it publicly. And of course, I'm being accused of sewing division and all these things after I'm a member or not a member anymore. But my issue that I see and I hear these stories of people who deal with the same thing is that the church. There are things that maybe leaders in the church value that are. Maybe they're landmines and These are major sins to them in their eyes. They're not major sins in terms of or even sin you want to say in Scripture. And where they overlook the clear, objective sin taking place in the church, they have no problem devoting so much time and attention and energy to something that is very within the Christian liberty area, liberty of conscience on this issue.
Glenn Beck
So, Daniel, I am, I'm sorry for what you've gone through and know you've learned an awful lot and hopefully the church has learned something as well. But I wish you all the best of luck and you have a right to speak your mind peacefully, calmly and and have your own opinion. I appreciate you speaking out. Thank you, Daniel. I appreciate it.
Daniel Keane
Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate you.
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Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. It is Thursday and there is a lot of good news and a lot of things that we need to pay attention to good news coming out of the Middle East. It looks like the security cabinet meeting, the Israeli security cabinet meeting, they passed the Gaza ceasefire plan, Gaza and the Palestinians have agreed to it. There was celebration on the streets of Gaza as well as as in what's called Hostage Square in Tel Aviv. And the president is going to the Middle East. I think he'll be in Egypt early next week to sign this peace deal. This is a huge, huge, major win for the world and for peace and anybody who, you know, really despises war and killing. Thank you, President Trump. It's an amazing deal. We'll talk about about that a little bit more this hour. Also, I want to talk to you about some of the things that are happening up in Canada if we have time. And Carol Roth joins me next because I am very concerned. Carol and I were asked a couple of years ago, we were doing some something together and one of the questions from the audience was how long before gold hits $5,000 an ounce? And we both agreed, well, it's going to it's going to happen faster than you think think. But you don't want to, you don't want to hope for that. If you own gold, you don't want to hope for that. It's a really bad sign. She's here to kind of flesh that out. And I want to also talk to her about an AI bubble because that would be very, very dangerous. What does peace in the Middle east will there will that pay any kind of dividends to stabilize our economy? The shutdown. We got a lot to talk about with Carol Roth in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about chapter Every fall, medicine care changes, network shift, drug tears move, costs creep. And the plan that fit last year may not fit in the year ahead. Most people hit remind me later and later becomes higher bills and fewer options over the next 12 months. Chapter treats this like preventative maintenance, not before the panic button. So right now, before enrollment opens on October 15, a licensed chapter advisor will reveal the will review your real life, your doctors, your prescriptions, your travel specialist and budget. Then they translate all of that fine print, compare all of the carriers and show you the plain numbers, the annual cost, not just the teaser premium. Most advisors for Medicare can only represent a few companies because they don't they don't have access to everything. They can't do what chapter does. Chapter is a tech company and they let high tech take your information and then go out and search everything and you see it all. It's not a sales pitch It's a tune up, really. Chapter, understand your options, fix what's off and walk into next year. Ready? If you're on Medicare, you're going to get on Medicare. You have family members getting on Medicare. Reach out to chapter. Call them today. It is free. Dial £250. Say the keyword chapter.
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Carol Roth
I'm doing great, Glenn. I'm actually celebrating my 26th wedding anniversary.
Glenn Beck
Oh my gosh.
Carol Roth
So it's a blessed day.
Glenn Beck
Oh, well, congratulations. Congratulations. You know, it's weird, I'm coming up on my 26th on in January.
Carol Roth
Oh, fabulous. Fabulous. It's a good amount of time to be married for sure.
Glenn Beck
It is. So, Carol, let's talk a little bit about the price of gold hitting. What is it?
Carol Roth
It's over 4,000.
Glenn Beck
Over 4,000, which is nuts. And I don't think people really understand. I don't think the average, this is my guess and I want you to correct me. I don't think the average person is buying gold. I think this gold buying is happening from sovereign funds and central banks mainly also Asian markets. I don't think Americans really understand what $4,000 an ounce means. Can you explain it?
Carol Roth
Yeah, absolutely. You know, obviously I think that the world, both investors and central banks are catching up to the things that you and I have been talking about for years. So, you know, we were ahead, we warned everyone, and now this is a little bit of catch up. Interestingly, you know, as you noted, the average American is very behind in terms of what gold means. When you look at Chinese households, when you look at Indian households, there are estimates that each one of those countries households owns about up to 30,000 tons of gold at this point, which to put that in context, the U.S. government owns 8,133 tons.
Glenn Beck
So the Indian households, all of them combined, 27,000 tons.
Carol Roth
Right.
Glenn Beck
What we have, what we say we have is 8100.
Carol Roth
Right.
Stu
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Carol Roth
So the households in China and India are really ahead of the curve. When you look at data for the US It's a little bit hard to get good data, but from what I've seen, the estimates are only about 10 to 11% of US households at all have experienced exposure to gold. Now, I know that your audience is very sophisticated and is ahead of the curve and I would imagine blows through that number, but just shows how sort of unprepared US Households are in general.
Glenn Beck
When you're looking at Indian And Chinese households that own gold. Does that include all the gold jewelry? Yes. Yes. Okay. All right.
Carol Roth
Yes. That's actually particularly in India, one of their preferred, preferred ways of procuring gold.
Glenn Beck
Okay, so gold has. Gold has shot up over $4,000 in record time. I mean, breathtaking time.
Daniel Keane
Yes.
Glenn Beck
What is causing that?
Carol Roth
Okay, so there are a confluence of factors, and I think the two most important factors, which of course are linked, are what Wall street is now calling the debt debasement trade, which they've just been caught onto and gave it a cute name, and the changing global financial order. And those are very much linked.
Glenn Beck
So tell me, what the. What is it? The debt debasement. What is that?
Carol Roth
They're calling it the debt debasement trade, which is just basically what you and I have been talking about, which is our unsustainable fiscal position and what all of the money printing that we've seen over the past seven, 10 years, what that has done to our purchasing power and how that is going to catch up to us. So as a reminder, you know, our debt to GDP is at emerging market crisis levels. We were 120 plus percent of GDP. We're running deficits that are equivalent to a wartime level or a recession level, while we still have growth, which is crazy. We have interest rate that is outpacing defense, interest payments that are outpacing defense spending. So everyone is now finally catching on to the fact that this is an unsustainable financial position and it is going to be very difficult to get out of without there being some sort of additional debasement of our currency, which is a fancy way of saying a diminishment of your purchasing power. What's really crazy, there's a chart that's been going around and they did kind of a comparison of different asset classes, priced in US dollars and priced in gold. So if you look from the end of September 2018 out seven years, and you look at the top 100 NASDAQ non financial companies, it's called the NDX. In US dollar terms, that is up 236%. So you think you're super rich. Right. But in gold terms, solid money that doesn't have its value debased, it's only up 4.7%. Oh my gosh, wait, it gets worse. The S&P 500 up 133% over that period. In dollar terms, it's down 27.6% in gold terms. And what's called the Case Shiller Home Price Index, which is the value of homes, the Way that that's measured in dollar terms, up 60%, we'll say, oh, houses so expensive. In gold terms, it's down 50%. In fact, right now, it takes less gold in terms of ounces to buy the median single family house than it has in decades and decades and decades. So it goes to show that even though we see these dollars, they're buying less and less. Now, you and I have been talking about this forever, but now Wall street is catching on. Oh, that's not a great thing. And so in terms of preserving the hard earned capital, we need something that is that hedge, that neutral hedge that's going to retain its value. And that's why more investors, institutional investors, funny enough, a lot of millennials, more than anyone, starting to really get into gold.
Glenn Beck
You know why? Because millennials have not been trained their whole life. Trust the system.
Carol Roth
Yes.
Glenn Beck
And they see it clearly and they look at it and they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense at all. You can't spend this and, you know, you're gonna. You're gonna wreck the dollar and everything else. They just see it without being trained over and over and over again that, oh, no, trust the system. They don't trust the system. And once you realize that system is rigged in a million different ways and the system is not telling you the truth, like, I mean, that is amazing. When, when you look at the stock market and you say it's actually down, when you compare it in US Dollars to gold, what's happening is. Let me explain this to the audience. What all that means is gold is only going up in dollars. It's staying. It's staying stable, but it's costing you more because of inflation. The dollars are buying less. So it looks like you're paying more, but you're really not. It looks like the stock market is going up, but it's really not. It's what it costs to get in with dollars. If you were going in with gold, you'll actually see that if it was all done in gold, the stock market is down, the price of housing is down. It's the dollar you had takes more dollars to buy than it does with gold, which holds its value. That is that if people could understand that one thing that changes all of the conversations of the government's gotta do something to make housing more affordable. No, they don't. They have to stabilize the dollar. They have to stop spending so much money.
Carol Roth
Yeah. I mean, if you think of the three definitions of money, it is a medium of exchange. You know, how, how you help to exchange goods. It's a unit of account which we say things are priced in dollars and it's supposed to be a store of value. The unit of account that you just talked about, My friend Steve Forbes has a great analogy, and he talks about other measurements. You know, imagine that your clock, you know, one day, you know, 12 o', clock, you know, means midnight, and another day, 3 o' clock means midnight or 6 o' clock inches to measure a curtain one day, and then the same measurement is like a foot a different day. You can't have a consistent measurement if the unit of account continues to change. And that's what we've been seeing here with the dollar. And unfortunately it has not been to our favor. Which means that when you work really hard to earn something and it's valued in a dollar, that over time that, that, that work that you've put out, your productivity is worth less and less. And so what gold is meant to do, it's meant to be capital preservation. It's not a risk asset. It's not meant to take on risk. And, you know, maybe go up a ton and maybe go down a ton. It's really meant to be a counterbalance to what you have earned so that you can preserve your purchasing power.
Glenn Beck
You know, I've been saying this for a long time that, you know, you put your money, and I have money in stock market, but you put your money in the stock market. If things really go awry, go ahead, you're going to cash out for an awful lot of money. But those dollars, it's going to be paid back to you in dollars. Those dollars will be worth less, even though there's more of them stacked up than that ounce of gold or that, you know, 10 ounces of gold or whatever you had. The stock market is paid in dollars. And so as the inflation goes up, but gold keeps its value, keeps its value and holds it steady. So, yeah, you're going to be paid more in dollars if you try to sell your gold, but that's going to continue to increase while stock markets will go down, am I right?
Carol Roth
And it's a counterbalance. So if things were to shift and for some reason things were to change with the dollars, which would need a lot of different catalysts, then your gold goes down. It's a counterbalance, which is why it's important to have that diversification in your portfolio and to have the gold hedge. What's interesting, Glenn, is just the history. We're talking about millennials, they went through the Great Recession, financial Crisis, they're kind of keyed into this. But if you think about when we came out of the 70s with this crazy inflation, we came out of the gold standard. It used to be very commonplace for a financial advisor to sit down and say, okay, we've been through this and so you should be putting, you know, 5 to 10% of your portfolio in gold. As the stock market took off in dollars and became this big thing and they started seeking fees that went away and financial advisors who don't get paid sometimes at all when you allocate to gold, stop recommending it. And now we're seeing a shift back. Now we're seeing, oh, yes, you should have some. Some of the big names out there are saying even more.
Glenn Beck
Ray Dalio just came out and said 15%.
Carol Roth
Yes, we've seen from big names like that anywhere from 10 to 20. And when they surveyed high net worth investors, which are $250,000 or assets or more, they're averaging right now 21% of their holdings in gold. Very big flip in recent years on how this is being viewed by the people who have accumulated those dollars and are worried about that.
Glenn Beck
Ok, so let me just summarize here before we move on, on to some other questions. That is exactly what my grandfather who lived through the Depression said. What are the people with big, large amounts of money doing? I want to do that. And if I would have done that, I would have been better off in the Great Depression. You just heard it, 20% or more, right? For big dollars, they're investing in gold. 20%, you should have some.
Carol Roth
And it's interesting, some of the portfolios we're seeing, some of that is coming not necessarily from the equity piece, but from the fixed income piece, which is pretty interesting too.
Glenn Beck
Amazing. Okay, let me switch gears with you here in just a second. I want to talk to you a little bit about the shutdown and I want to talk to you about the AI bubble as well. Is that real? We'll do that in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about preborn. There is a sound, a steady, measured thump thump that says, I'm here. I'm here. I'm alive. I'm a person. When a woman walks into a preborn clinic, she isn't asking for a lecture. She's. She's asking for solid ground to stand on. And that's what a no cost ultrasound provides. No pressure, but proof. Not slogans, but a clear picture of life. And at that moment, decisions get made with information instead of feelings, fear or guesswork. Now, behind that room is a quiet army, donors like you and me who keep the lights on so the screen can line up. If you want your generation to your generosity to do something tangible, this is it. Turn fear into a plan and a plan into hope. There are babies and moms who desperately need your help right now. This is why the truth matters now more than ever. Because when a mom hears it, lives are saved. Just $28 provides that truth through a free ultrasound. This is your chance to make a difference that a difference that will echo through the eternities. Will you answer the call now? Go to preborn.com beck that's preborn.com beck or dial £250 on your phone. Say the keyword baby. £250 keyword is baby. Do it now because life matters. Sponsored by Preborn 10 seconds back to Carol, I am on a plane as soon as I get off the air here and I'm headed up to the University of North Dakota today where I will be doing a couple events, but the Main 1 is 06:30 Central Time and you can get your tickets@ turningpoint tour.com first come, first serve. But I hope to see you there. I am bringing millions of dollars worth of artifacts to show what you're learning in school and what the truth is. It's going to be a fabulous talk tonight standing in for Charlie Kirk in University of North Dakota. Then I'll be back here tomorrow morning to do another show. Okay, Carol?
Carol Roth
Yes. Hey, Glenn, before we move on, we spent all that time talking about the debt debasement trade. Do we want to talk about the changing global financial order piece on gold too, or do we want to come back to that another time?
Glenn Beck
I think we come back to that another time. I mean, can you mention it, sum it up in a paragraph about what BRICS and everybody else is doing?
Carol Roth
Yeah. So basically for the last 14 to 1515 years, the banks around the world have not been buying our Treasuries on net. They've been net selling them when you look at it altogether. And they have been replacing that with gold. And the power center for gold is starting to shift to the East. China is building up their own vaults, they're building up their own trading and they're really making that a de facto reserve currency. So if you, if you want another piece of what's going on, central bank buying of gold used to be about 10% of the volume. It's now about 20%. And all of the suppression and the price that used to happen out of the London paper market is now being challenged by what's going on in the East. And that's part of the reason why we have seen this move that should have happened a long time ago start to really move and accelerate.
Glenn Beck
So, and I want to make it clear, you know, the reason why the United States became the world's powerhouse is because we lent money to Europe and they sent us their gold. So at the end, we had this huge pile of gold and we had the power to be able to say, we're going to base everything. We're going to do a dollar. It's going to be based on the gold because we have all the gold. And now we have debased that money. God only knows how much gold we actually have. I hope we have what we say we do. And the other countries now are piling gold in. So if, if, if things repeat as they always do, especially when you're talking about mathematics, those countries that are piling up the gold are going to be the ones after the big crash to say, we're gonna, we're gonna provide the currency or we'll just make all of the trades based in gold. Which, you know, is basically what we were doing, you know, when we had an actual dollar based in gold. All right, Carol, we're going to come back and I want to talk to you a little bit about the shutdown, how that is affecting things. How long can we go on this? And also the AI bubble, there's an amazing stat. There are only seven countries, companies that are actually driving the S&P 500, and they're all AI companies. That doesn't sound good.
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The author of the book you Will Own Nothing, Kara Roth is with us now. She's one of my favorite economists because I think she thinks she sees things for what they really are. I want to talk about the shutdown with her, but I want to start with the AI bubble. There's a lot of talk about the AI bubble and I don't think people really understand because they see the stock market going up. But if you look at the S and P, that's only really seven companies that are driving the the gains here. And those seven companies are all AI based. So if it is a bubble or even if it is not a bubble, but there is some sort of shock to the system. We, we have not diversified at all. The, the S and P is not diversified. It's seven AI companies. Something happens to AI and the bottom falls out. That's the way I read it. Carol, can you talk me down from that tree?
Carol Roth
So I'll actually probably have somewhat good news for the first time ever.
Glenn Beck
Oh, good, good. Thank you.
Carol Roth
There's definitely truth to what you were saying, but I do think that there's another side that make it a bit different than the dot com bubble. At least we hope.
Glenn Beck
Uh oh, this time it's different. I never like that.
Carol Roth
Yes, a little bit. Since April when the stock market went a little bit crazy. What they call the magnificent seven companies, the big names out there, the Amazons and the like, basically those have accounted for a little over half the gains in the stock market because there is so much money being thrown at AI Certainly right now everything's an AI company because everybody wants dollars. So if you scoop ice cream, you figured out a way to make your ice cream, you know, better with artificial intelligence because that gets you a little bit of a bump. And we know that the valuations are nonsensical. We know a lot of money has been thrown there. And what we'd like to see is what we call a broadening of the market, which means more stocks and more sectors and more sizes of companies. You know, not just the big guys, but, you know, the little guys to doing better in that that's a bit of a healthier market. So we want to see that the small cap stocks have increased significantly in 2025. So that is a good thing. We are seeing that those are captured in a different index than the S&P 500. So we are seeing a bit of that and that's good news. Where I think this is different than the dot com bubble is if you look at companies like Microsoft, like Nvidia that are, that, you know, do have these crazy valuations, these are not like the companies, they're not pets.com, right? These are companies that are substantially large technology companies that were worth, you know, half a trillion trillions of dollars before AI came into the picture. And if you go back, you know, over the years they've switched the hot things. You know, first it was the Internet of Things that was the hot thing and then they got a premium value for that, then it was the cloud, now it's AI. So my guess is that there's probably something in their pocket that's post AI, quantum computing or, you know, whatever it is the next hot thing that if this doesn't come to fruition in the way that, you know, it may not, because it is disruption is lagging, some of the adoption is lagging and it doesn't become, you know, this, this big game changer that we think it is, that at least you have these solid companies that aren't going to zero, that have a diversified base in terms of, you know, their own business and probably have the next hot thing that is going to sustain it. So I do think it's different certainly from a venture capital standpoint, you know, where dollars are being allocated, they are all going to AI. They're getting crazy valuations. 60% of those companies, it's estimated, are pre revenue. They haven't even generated a dollar yet. But it's also early innings on AI. So when you think about the Internet, when we had the dot com bubble, that was kind of the first wave and some of the companies that went out, you know, the infrastructure caught up and now we have companies we didn't have, but we have Chewy, we didn't have webvan, but we have, you know, Doordash and Instacart. So we're still early innings. So I do think you're probably going to get some volatility and shifting here. But I don't think that we're looking at the same kind of meltdown that we were.
Glenn Beck
That's all I tried. That's all I want. I just want to be able to get 20 minutes of shut eye, not Thinking about that, the, the shutdown. I'm somebody who believes if he could find a way to stabilize the air traffic control and get all of the essential stuff down, I would be happy with a government shutdown forever.
Carol Roth
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
You know, because I think you could make the case. If you could stabilize things, you could make the case, hey, Everybody, we got 40% of the people aren't going to work and they haven't been going to work for three months. Have you noticed a difference? Because I haven't. Let's fire all those people. I mean, I think it would be a great experiment, but how long can we go, can we stabilize things to keep going this way? And what is this affecting?
Carol Roth
I love your idea. It's sort of Doge 2.0.
Daniel Keane
You know, as long as we can.
Carol Roth
Get the military and air traffic control patent, all of that, the stuff that people care about. Let's start with Congress. That would be a great place to start. So right now, if you look at Wall street, you know, the investors don't seem to care. They don't seem to think that there's enough that's going on. And I think what shifts that and what changes that is if it goes on to the point in time, and I don't have a date for you, but at the point of time, time when it starts to either impact the market and, or it impacts the economy in terms of consumer spending.
Glenn Beck
And how will that impact, I understand spending if people aren't getting paid.
Carol Roth
Right.
Glenn Beck
But.
Carol Roth
The same thing with the stock market is that there is a wealth effect linked. There is that when people see their 401s going up, they feel like they're wealthier and that they're willing to go out and to make purchases. And when they see that going down, they get concerned about that. They get concerned about the economy. The consumer is 70% of the economy, so that sentiment matters greatly. And the reality is, given our precarious financial situation that we've talked about, we cannot afford for GDP to go down. We cannot afford for capital gains collection, tax collections to go down. We cannot afford for the economy to contract and not have that same revenue base because that's going to explode the deficit. That means going to be, have more interest, expense. It could put us into a debt spiral. So that's the real concern, is that we need to keep that. And the things that you mentioned, you know, the air traffic control, you know, that's not going to be great for consumer sentiment if that becomes, becomes a big issue. And the other thing is that nobody Wants to see the people who serve us in the military, active duty military, they don't want to see 1.3 million people not get back. And that's coming up, that's coming up in you know, I think a week or so.
Glenn Beck
Isn't that, I mean when a government shuts down, isn't it supposed to be on all non essential? So this is the military is essential, air traffic is essential. How come that's a carve out? Do you know?
Carol Roth
Nothing in government makes sense to me. My guess is that they will probably have some sort of tiering and you know, based on the amount of money that they have available, certain things happen first and then certain things happen second. But we know that the government's coffers aren't in a great position right now either. So you know, they may have run those numbers. I haven't, I haven't tried to do that, but I think that's, you know how that works and they see how much money is available for all the things that they need to.
Glenn Beck
You know the other frustrating thing, and I've only got about four minutes and I got a couple more questions for you. But the other frustrating thing on this is this is only a stopgap for when do we hit it again? Like seven weeks. I mean when will we get serious and actually do a budget? You see that in the horizon ever again?
Carol Roth
You know, you're asking me to rationalize crazy. And I think that's, that's the challenging part here. We have so many ways that we can right our ship and put us on a good path. The weak link is always Congress. If Congress doesn't get serious and they are right now not incented to, then whatever we do they can just undo. So we need to find a way to hold them more accountable than just oh, you're not going to get elected again. I think that we need to really seriously rethink the accountability of the people who are supposed to quote unquote, represent us, who are truly really only representing their interests and their path.
Glenn Beck
Okay, so let me talk to you about Obamacare. Obamacare we knew would never work. Everything that's happening right now we said would happen in 2008, 9, 10, and even the Washington Post came out, I think it was this week or late last week with an op ed from the editorial board, the whole board saying it was never gonna work. It doesn't work. You know, it's a debacle. What the, what is coming off the table are these subsidies that were given due to Covid now Everybody is, you know, acting like that was always part of Obamacare. It never was. We have to. We have to not just keep throwing good money after bad. This is not going to work. It's a bad system. But I don't see anybody on the left, I'm sorry, on the right offering any kind of real strategy. And people are going to be hurt when those Obamacare premiums go up. So how do we solve this?
Carol Roth
Yeah, I mean, actually, you're seeing people on the right saying that we should be extending the subsidies because they know that when people see their premiums and see them go through the roof, which, by the way, they're going to go somewhat through the roof anyway because some of this, the insurance companies have baked in and said, you know, we expect there's going to be political dysfunction, so we're just going to bake that in anyway. But, you know, because midterms are coming up, you have Republicans actually saying, oh, we should probably extend these for some period of time. But again, that's political. That doesn't get to the heart of the issue. I mean, health care is just an absolute mess in this country. And I've seen really great proposals. Avik Roy has had some really thorough proposals. But it really means, you know, uprooting and disrupting the whole system. And I don't know that politically there is the appetite to do things that are necessary to fix the problem. They want to kick the can to somebody else because again, as we were talking about with accountability, they just want to get reelected and say that they did something and, you know, grandstand or, you know, make something up. They don't want to actually solve our problems. And, you know, it was never going to be affordable care. We all knew that. We all knew we were losing our doctors. We knew that this was going to be an absolute mess. It has made it worse. And, you know, that's been a frustrating point with Republicans forever, is that they identify this as an issue, but there has never been a really solid proposal while there are ones that are sitting out there from great thinkers on how we put it in place. And there just doesn't seem to be the political will. So once again, we need to figure out a way to create that accountability if we want these problems solved. We cannot just assume that electing a handful of good people, people and a bunch of mediocre and bad people is going to fix that.
Glenn Beck
Carol, thank you so much. God bless. Happy anniversary.
Carol Roth
Oh, thank you very much.
Glenn Beck
All right. You bet.
Stu
Bye.
Glenn Beck
Bye. Carol Roth, the author of you Will Own Nothing. And a former investment banker to talk to us about the economy. And if you don't follow her, you should if you want to really know what's going on with the economy, follow her at carolj.s roth, Carol J. S. Roth on X. Or you find her at Carol Roth.com news All right, let me talk to you a little bit about Burn a Launcher. I'm headed up to Fort Wayne, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Fort Wayne, Indiana next week. Whoa. Which is one of my favorite stations in Fort Wayne is one of my favorite cities. They're, they're having their 100th anniversary and I can't wait to be up there. I wish you were coming with me, Stu, because I know you love for Wayne as well.
Daniel Keane
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Glenn Beck
But I'm going up there and this is the home of Burna, so I hope I have time. I'm going to be able to try to swing over to see the people over at Burna because they assemble everything here in America and I think they were I think 20% of the stuff was made here in America. You know, five, six years ago when Trump put in the mandate and said, hey, want everything here in America, they did everything they can to switch. And I think they're 90% of their parts now are made in America and all hand put together here in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And they're a great, great American company. And honestly, I don't know why every teacher does not have one of these in their desk. They're perfectly legal. It's not a lethal weapon. But if somebody was shooting in the hallway, you could open up your doors and shoot a tear gas pellet at that gunman and you could save lives. I honestly don't know why more people don't have this. I honestly don't know if you have kids in college, why you haven't given them a burner launcher and showed them how to use it. 18 and over. There's no, no permits. It's legal in all 50 states and it saves lives. Byrna B y r n a.com Glenn learn more about it burna.com Glenn try before you buy at a Sportsman's warehouse, but you find the location near you@burna.com.
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Stu
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We've got a lot to talk to you about next hour. You know, one is the, the, the California fire. It wasn't climate change. Now, I didn't see that coming. I thought for sure it was climate. I thought my guess was asthma inhalers.
Stu
Yes.
Glenn Beck
That's the first thing that came to mind. I was like, asthma inhaler. And everybody knows they're, you know, they're equal. You people with asthma in your little inhalers, that's equal to half a million trucks on the road. And you know, thank you for the fires. Asthma people. So that was my guess, but apparently not that. And not even climate change. It looks like it was arson. What? Yeah. And a guy, and a guy who is a leftist that hates capitalism. What? Yeah.
Stu
No.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah.
Stu
Come on. Are you sure it wasn't my suv?
Glenn Beck
I'm pretty sure. Was he driving your suv?
Stu
He was not.
Glenn Beck
He was not driving. No. Your SUV wasn't involved.
Stu
Not involved?
Glenn Beck
No, not at all.
Stu
Are you sure?
Glenn Beck
I'm positive. Positive. Looks like he and his lighter were involved.
Stu
That'll do it.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Stu
That will do it.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. Yeah.
Stu
But this is man made.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. USA Today said hotter, drier and more flammable. Scientists say climate change fueled the LA fires. No, not really. No. You know what, what, what fueled it was again, Butane in his little lighter. That's what. That's what started that. So, gosh darn it, what do I do? I guess I have to apologize to all of the people I just called planet killers and baby killers, you know, all the, all the former friends that I had that have asthma. I guess I have to apologize and say I'm sorry. I really thought you were responsible for the forest fires, but apparently not.
Daniel Keane
Apparently not.
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Glenn Beck
Hello America. Welcome to the program we want to talk about. This is not just a Gaza peace deal. This is actual peace in the Middle East. If this comes through, it's something that's never ever been done before and shocking, shocking in its scope, assuming that it takes hold. You know, already the opposition party in Israel is saying that Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Prize. I mean, you know, the worst thing you could say is get it for the prize. Give him the freaking prize. Yeah, whatever. I mean, it was Harder than opening a crackerjack box, which I think is all that Obama had to do to get a Nobel prize. This is historic what was announced last night and he's already onto something else. I've never seen a president like this. We'll talk about that and so much more this this hour. Stand by first real estate agents, I trust you. When you list your home for sale, it either gathers momentum or dust. And it seems like there isn't really any middle ground. You know, you don't need a sign in the yard, you need a launch plan. You need a price theory. Photo order pre launch buzz showing windows negotiation strategy before you ever open the first door. Real estate agents, I think trust will connect you with that proven local pro that does exactly that. These are top performing agents vetted for track record and communication. People who walk in with the data, not guesses. They map your timeline, they coach you on prep and staging, they set a smart initial price and day one, they run it like the boss buying. They're your scout team. Micro markets, school lines, days on market signals. What's the about to list? Is it overpriced? Are you getting a deal? All of these things. You need the best real estate agent in your market. Whether you're buying a house across the street, selling it across the street, or buying something across the country. Realestate agentsitrust.com is a place where you'll find the right agent for you. It's a free Service. My company, realestate agentsitrust.com oh, your initial thoughts here on the peace deal?
Stu
It's an incredible opportunity. I think it is important to remind ourselves that this, these things typically do fall apart. That is essentially your expectation. Anytime anything like this happens, part of this is going to be Hamas coming through on promises. I have very little belief that they are typically able to do such things. That being said, they probably also. You know, one of the things, a friend of mine pointed this out to me. We were going over all this and he said one thing to think about is that this is like not the B team of Hamas, but like the R team of Hamas. They've killed so many of the leadership. These are people making decisions that were not at the top of this organization and had those ridiculous ideological beliefs that would lead you to October 7th. That's not to mean that Hamas, these people that are left are like, hey, you wanted to invite him over for Thanksgiving. But I do think there's a possibility here that they're like, you know, maybe this life isn't for Us maybe like, you know, taking.
Glenn Beck
It would be nice if that were true. I don't know if that's true, but it would be really nice. I don't know.
Stu
I do think that there might be a little bit lower ideological commitment potentially, and also the idea that some of these people might be able to make this deal and escape to another third country and, you know, live life there in a different way.
Glenn Beck
So the breaking news that just was announced announced Israel. Their parliament or their cabinet just met and approved phase one of the deal. And Hamas has just come out and said they accept phase one of the deal. That means the hostages will be released either this weekend or Monday. Any remaining hostage will be released. I mean, just that, just that is a roll.
Stu
If that occurs. It is a massive achievement.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Stu
So far it is already the greatest opportunity we've had and only possible because of his dedication to this idea and his deal making.
Glenn Beck
Not just his vision, but his ability to work all of the parties and find out what all the parties need and make it happen. You know, we're not talking about peace between Gaza, you know, Hamas and Israel. We're talking about peace in the Middle East.
Stu
Yeah, it's bigger. It's bigger than just Israel.
Glenn Beck
I mean, it's Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan to some extent, and Turkey, all of them getting together and saying, you know what, we'll rebuild Gaza. We want to make it into a very prosperous kind of area. I mean, think of places in Saudi Arabia that are so prosperous that, that, that's the way Gaza could be. So they're all getting together and they're saying, we will rebuild, we'll oversee, we'll try to make everything, you know, keep everything held. They're going to put their money into it, which means they have a lot to lose if things go awry. And they all are saying we can coexist with Israel. That, that, that. Three years ago, did you think that was even possible?
Stu
Yeah. And, you know, look, there are a lot of places you can go and find nonstop criticism of Donald Trump, that they'll say terrible things and everything he does is the worst thing ever. Also, there are plenty of places you can go where you find that everything he does is the greatest thing of all time. I hope you realize that that's not what we do here. I mean, I said this, and you said this as well when this was an unveiled. Sometimes you can get. People are critical of the way Trump handles these situations sometimes. And sometimes there's arguments on that. Sometimes it's not the best approach. Like you know, we grew critical of him, for example, of how he handled Canada. I think, like, you know, probably cost Poliev that election. And I think that's a really bad thing.
Glenn Beck
I do, too.
Stu
That being said, this is a great example of where his instincts worked perfectly. This is all set up over a long period of foundational stuff from his first term with the decision he made to come out and just announce the agreement with Netanyahu. We agreed. We agreed to this peace deal. Now, in theory, we have no position to agree between these two parties, but he came out and said, we agree. And instead, all of the focus had been, look at all the bad things Israel is doing. Look at how bad they are. They're so evil, they're so bad. And he came out and said, we've agreed with Israel, now we just need Hamas. And so the world's attention was like, well, what's Hamas gonna say? Finally, he was able to focus the attention in the appropriate place to the party that is holding the hostages to say, hey, how about asking if they want a freaking cease fire for once? He was able to do that in a way that I think only Donald Trump could achieve, which leads to this over a long foundation.
Glenn Beck
And here's another thing. You know, this guy has walked through wall after wall after wall of fire, everybody calling him everything Nazi every day. Here's a guy who, you know, in a time period where in the whole world is like, the Jews control everything. Donald Trump is run by the Jews. He not only kept his relationship with Israel solid and helped them when he thought they were right, but when they were wrong in his view, he chastised them. He knew how to do it and still hold their respect and gain the respect of places like Qatar and say, so Qatar, when he chastised Benjamin Netanyahu, and Benjamin Netanyahu had to, I think, apologize to some degree about what they did in Qatar. That's when the Middle east went, wait a minute, he's not being controlled by the Jews. You know what I mean? That, that's. That. That should be a really big wake up call to everybody who thinks that Donald Trump is just being controlled by the Jews. No, no, no, no, he's not. He does what he thinks is right and he'll chastise both sides and he'll support either side when they're right to get to a deal that's good for everybody. This deal could be amazing. I don't have any faith, and it's not because of this deal. I happened and I read the end of the book. So I know how this ends. This is not gonna, you know, this is skipped ahead. I skipped ahead. I skipped ahead. So, you know, this doesn't ruin anything. Don't know. I won't. No spoiler alerts. Let's just say this might last for, you know, a week. It might last for a thousand years. I don't know. But, you know, we're going to be in this situation again, and we all know that. We all know that. But let's take and celebrate peace while we can and the hostages coming back. That is massive. Massive. And due to Donald Trump. I mean, today, if you don't like Donald Trump, fine, Fine. But how do you take this one apart? Honestly? How do you not claim this is a massive victory for the whole world?
Stu
Well, I can tell you that a lot of the people on the left are rooting for it to collapse, which is a shockingly revealing moment.
Glenn Beck
I mean, wait, what?
Stu
They are. You know, they're not gonna be out there like, we hope this collapses, but, you know, they hope it collapses. They don't want to give Trump credit for it. And they'd rather have this continue. They'd rather have this war go on than admit that the reason it's ending is because Donald Trump was able to negotiate this deal.
Glenn Beck
That is, I think anybody who has played politics with the Palestinian, you know, all that stuff and all the stuff on the streets, that has been a very effective tool for them. And so I would agree they don't want that tool to be taken away.
Stu
You think the Hamas wing of the party wants this? Of the Democratic Party? You think Rashida Tlaib's all thrilled about Donald Trump's efforts here? I think we're gonna hear from Ilhan.
Glenn Beck
Omar about Wonderful extremist.
Stu
I know. I mean that, though. I think this is a very revealing dividing line on the left. Right. If there is anything that is ever going to happen that Donald Trump can be given credit for, that you think this would be clear, like John Fetterman? I mean, Fetterman's obviously been pretty good on this issue, but Fetterman came out and gave a statement that, like, should be basic. Basic. Like, hey, this is good. I really hope this works like it was. Donald Trump did a good job on this. That's the type of stuff that should be obvious for everyone to be able to get on.
Glenn Beck
This is what Tip o' Neill would have done. Everybody always says, Chip o' Neill and Ronald Reagan, they got together, they disagreed, they fought hard, but they had dinner. Yeah. Because Tip o' Neill could say, that was good. That was good. What he just did was good for all of us.
Stu
That worked well.
Glenn Beck
Good.
Stu
I'm glad that happened.
Glenn Beck
Right?
Stu
You should be glad that happened. I mean, we should all be rooting for the success here, even if what the.
Glenn Beck
What?
Stu
You know, like, I rooted again. We have all sorts of criticisms of the way Barack Obama, you know, dealt with the Middle east, but, like, really? Yeah, plenty of them. And we went over them over again and plenty of issues with specifically the way he went after Osama bin Laden. But on the day that it happened, really happy about it.
Glenn Beck
Very happy.
Stu
Very happy that we were able to do it. Now, look, it's our military that does it. We can go through all. They can say all this stuff, too. They can say, oh, well, the real reason is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, like, we can still be happy that this occurred and you could still be excited and give credit where credit is due.
Glenn Beck
This is a win for all humankind, for humanity, for life. Stopping Hamas from torturing, you know, torturing kidnap victims, stopping the bloodshed that was happening because of the war on both sides, that is a win. Having the possibility of a stable Middle east, at least for a while, that's a win. That's a win all the way around. Everyone should be having. I don't care if you like the president or not, everyone should be happy that mankind put one on the chalkboard for all of mankind today. This is a hu. Never seen. This is on the good side. Never seen this one before. Didn't see this one coming. I mean, we should all be able to say, wow, and thank you. Because he's the. I really, truly believe when it comes to negotiating things like this, there is nobody better. I mean, that's what he does for a living, and he knows it. He knows how to read a room, he knows how to read people, he knows how to work it, and this is evidence of it.
Stu
And he will do things that are so out of the norm that it resets everybody's thinking. I mean, I mentioned that if he.
Glenn Beck
Wouldn'T have done that, if he wouldn't have done that, we wouldn't have all the Middle east signing onto a peace deal.
Stu
What would every. Look, presidents I respect, what would they have done in this situation, like Trump was with Netanyahu, Their advisors would have said, look, this is great. You guys are together on this. Let's go to Hamas. We'll talk to them. We'll see if we can get something done. We don't want to ruin it by announcing it publicly. And like, there are times where that tactic might not work, but it worked really well here. He forced them to basically say, no, we don't want to cease fire or okay, we'll go along with us. And by the way, you go down that list, there's a lot of stuff. This is Hamas never ever having control of this region ever again is built into this agreement. Now they've only talked about, you know, they're only on phase one here. So we don't know that we get all of this stuff. But like there's a lot here that really improves the lives of Israelis, of Palestinians, Arab Israelis in the region, you.
Glenn Beck
Know, Palestinians, other Arabs in the region, Saudi Arabia, everybody.
Stu
And not to mention just globally. Right. This is a positive.
Glenn Beck
Look what this does. That's Turkey. So that separates Turkey from Syria, which is, you know, right in bed with, with Iran. I mean, think about how this boxes. If you have the entire Middle east now operating with Israel and saying they have a right to exist, think about what that means for this block. Now to Iran. Iran doesn't mind being a pariah, but now everyone is officially saying, I'll do business with them.
Stu
We will choose Israel over these guys. Yeah, like that's a big statement.
Glenn Beck
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Daniel Keane
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Glenn Beck
And I guess we back.
Stu
Guess.
Glenn Beck
I asked. I asked Sarah to come in. What's the app that you use? The. I asked her. Come in with Shazam. And can you tell me what song this is? Nothing. They go to chatgpt. What song is this? Nothing. And it's called Eminem. I can't remember something, but it's an Eminem song. Listen, it's Eminem without me. It's Without. Without Me by Eminem. And I'm like, it's A.I. think of this. It's a soulless program making soul. How is this happening?
Stu
It's, like, good too. I actually like it.
Glenn Beck
Really good.
Stu
I like it better than the original.
Glenn Beck
Yeah. I went down this rabbit hole today of these AI songs where, like, you know, they put, I don't know, the Bee Gees and no Ray Charles and Van Halen together. And it was unbelievable. It's like, how is that happening? We all said it'll never be able to do music because that requires a soul. And I don't know. Just follow me. Here's soul music by AI that should. You're in the creative industry. You should be like, oh, that's a problem.
Announcer
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Stu
I don't know what to think about it. Cuz, I mean, part of the charm of this stuff is the stories of how it's made and how they come up with it and how it was inspired and like, you know, you watch a Behind the Music documentary about how these things came.
Glenn Beck
If.
Stu
If this story is. I typed it into AI Die, it's like a bad documentary.
Glenn Beck
I mean, this is where I go on the idea of. Of prompting. It still requires somebody to go, what would it sound like if I took that song, made it into a 1950s soul song, 1960s soul song? And what would that sound like?
Stu
I mean, again, a boring story, though, right? I mean, it's. It's an interesting thought. It's an interesting 30 seconds of thinking. No, it's incredible.
Glenn Beck
Eminem's gotta love this because. Because I gotta believe. I mean, if this stuff catches up, you gotta pay him royalties.
Stu
Who. Who's paying? If it's AI, Whoever produced this.
Glenn Beck
Well, maybe whoever typed in I Gotta Buy Me.
Stu
At the very least, it probably directs people to stream his song a bunch more times.
Glenn Beck
I mean, it's amazing. It's amazing. All right, standby, last half hour of the Glenn Beck program. And my daughter is joining. Joining me for a second. She's terrified. Terrified. I love that. Next.
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Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're glad you're here. We welcome now to the studios the very special, very talented daughter of mine, Cheyenne Grace.
Cheyenne Grace
Hi. Thanks for having me.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, you're welcome. She loves it.
Cheyenne Grace
Thanks for letting me visit you.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, she's always. She's always like. She came in, she's like, I'm gonna to vomit blood.
Cheyenne Grace
No, I was like, dude, I feel.
Stu
Like I'm a throw.
Glenn Beck
But it's, you know, you. Your mom said. When did you come into town? Tuesday.
Cheyenne Grace
Tuesday.
Glenn Beck
I flew in Tuesday and your mom and I were out doing some stuff and she said, cheyenne comes in in a couple hours. And I had forgotten that you were flying in that day. And I mean, my stomach just jumped. I was so excited. I just. I miss you so much.
Cheyenne Grace
Miss you. Yeah, it's been like a good month and a half since I moved, so I know it's been. It's been a time, you know.
Glenn Beck
You were there with Charlie Kirk when I was.
Cheyenne Grace
Yeah. My friends and I went to the event to go and just kind of see what the environment was like, because we've seen it all over TikTok, like all of his events, and we just wanted to see what the vibe was like. And then things just took a really big turn and it was really scary. And we're. We're getting through it and it's. It's difficult. And, you know, all of our hearts are just with Charlie's family and his team and everyone who was close to him knew him anyway. It's just. It's terrible.
Glenn Beck
So many people feel like they knew him even though they didn't. I mean, because you kind of feel that way, don't you? Did you ever meet Charlie?
Cheyenne Grace
I met him once and he was very kind.
Glenn Beck
But, like, you watch him, he was so personal and personable and so real that I think a lot of people, even though they never met him, they kind of felt like they were friends, you know, they knew him.
Cheyenne Grace
Yeah, for sure. That's. That's what a lot of people were saying around, like, my area was just like, I feel like I lost someone that was close to me. And I feel like social media has a way of doing that. If you follow someone for a long time, you feel like you know them with a lot of, like, Your audience as well. Like, I feel like a lot of people are very. Oh, I feel like I know them, you know, and that's just, that's the special part about, you know, being able to share stuff on social media is you create this special connection. But it's so hard when you lose someone like that.
Stu
So devastating thing to go through. Yeah. There has to be something better to talk about than that again. I just. It's such a traumatic thing. And what are you up to?
Glenn Beck
Well, hang on. Before that, let me ask you, how are you dealing with my trip today? I'm going to fill in for Charlie.
Cheyenne Grace
Yeah, I'm okay.
Glenn Beck
North Dakota.
Cheyenne Grace
When, When? I mean, when you told me two weeks ago, it was right after everything happened. Two, three weeks ago. However, a couple weeks ago, instantly got very nervous because it was the two days after it happened. But I was, I was like, are you crazy? And then, you know, I was touching base with some of your team yesterday and just talking about. Because I got reached out to talking about, you know, you're still nervous. And I was just saying, you know, it doesn't really leave you when stuff like that happens and when your family is kind of going into that position as well. Like, that's scary. And also the fact that I have an event tonight and I'm gonna be on stage while you're there is just, you know, it's scary. But, you know, you're gonna do great. You're. You're gonna do great.
Glenn Beck
So you. There is the movie that you worked on your very first time on screen.
Stu
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Can we play a little bit of this? It's. It's a movie called the Best Thing About Christmas and One more Song. And she plays a young daughter who is a aspiring music artist and she dies pretty quickly. Oh, I'm not supposed to say that. Oh, she doesn't die. What are you talking about?
Cheyenne Grace
But Allan, if you're watching this, you.
Glenn Beck
Come on my show, you get what you get. So this is being actually labeled as a musical, which I think is really unfair because it's not a music. You're not breaking out in song.
Cheyenne Grace
It's different type. It's. It's not musical sounding music.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, it's like this. So when is this, When's this coming out?
Cheyenne Grace
So we don't have a final release date yet because the movie's still in post production. We're about to get the final film, but if you would like to stay updated with when it's gonna come out, you can go and follow the film at the Best thing about Christmas movie on their socials. And then the website is the best about Christmas movie dot com.
Glenn Beck
I thought you were going to announce today. I think you did too. You know, some real information. But they just. They. They are going to make an announcement here soon on something that just happened.
Cheyenne Grace
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
And so I think that's really exciting.
Stu
Are they going to announce the end of the movie? Is that how they're going to. Is that we're going to do like, how much of it they just going to give away when they make the announcement? Are they just going to tell the entire.
Cheyenne Grace
I didn't think they were planning to give it away at all.
Stu
I think that already covered that. That's an interesting strategy, but that's kind.
Glenn Beck
Of the whole thing.
Stu
Yeah. Actually, you know how this family. You know, he's actually Luke's father, but. Yeah, that was in the trailer. If I remember right. You're the. You are the worst.
Glenn Beck
How.
Stu
How do you even have this job?
Glenn Beck
I don't know. I really don't know.
Cheyenne Grace
He's really bad at keeping secrets.
Announcer
Yes.
Cheyenne Grace
Really bad.
Stu
Really bad.
Glenn Beck
Can we focus on her for a minute? Turn against me. This always happens. You're not invited to go.
Cheyenne Grace
Okay.
Glenn Beck
All right.
Cheyenne Grace
Last time I checked, I was having a pretty good sleep last night.
Glenn Beck
Then I was like, I gotta get.
Cheyenne Grace
Up for dad's show. And now here I am.
Carol Roth
So.
Glenn Beck
So she has been. And she's been trying out for shows, you know, professional. Yeah, been trying. But you know what? Getting callbacks. You were gonna spend most of your time getting arrested.
Cheyenne Grace
Yeah, I know.
Glenn Beck
I mean, I don't know how you do that, but it's hard, you know?
Cheyenne Grace
But we do it. We do it.
Glenn Beck
But there's a difference between being rejected for a show like that and then not being. And then being rejected by like McDonald's. Stop.
Cheyenne Grace
Are we really about to talk about what's happening?
Glenn Beck
Okay.
Cheyenne Grace
Okay.
Glenn Beck
She's looking for.
Cheyenne Grace
I just. So I just moved to Utah. Right.
Stu
Okay.
Cheyenne Grace
And for some reason I can't get a job to save my life. Like, really. I.
Glenn Beck
She's like, she will take any job.
Cheyenne Grace
I will take anything. I don't care. Like, I am flexible. Like, I can do whatever. I can juggle.
Glenn Beck
I don't know.
Cheyenne Grace
Well, I can't juggle.
Stu
Well, you're in movies. You have yet a best selling album.
Glenn Beck
No. She will wash the dishes. She will. She'll. She'll flip burgers.
Cheyenne Grace
She'll do any job right now is to be a barista at Dutch Bros.
Stu
Dutch Bros. Dutch Bros.
Cheyenne Grace
I want to work at Dutch Bros So bad.
Carol Roth
I don't know why.
Cheyenne Grace
Every single time I'm at the window, I pull up and they're like, hey, girl. And I'm like, hey. And we vibe solo. I'm like, I need to work there. So if Dutch Bros. Is listening.
Glenn Beck
But they've rejected you at two locations so far.
Cheyenne Grace
Two locations. I've applied for, like, 10 jobs. I've gotten no responses, but for some reason, I'm like, I can sing, I can dance.
Glenn Beck
Hire me, please.
Cheyenne Grace
Thanks.
Stu
Is it possible that they see your last name and then it's like, no, she doesn't.
Cheyenne Grace
Are you not using Grace?
Announcer
Okay, good.
Cheyenne Grace
Actually, no, I have to use my legal.
Stu
See, that's the problem. That's the problem. Everywhere.
Glenn Beck
Everywhere else, she's like, you know, she. She. I think you were like six. You're like, I'm not using your name, dad. No, I'm not using it because I know that's gonna do for my career.
Stu
People ask me what I do. I say, I work at Dutch Bros. That's. That's what I say.
Cheyenne Grace
No, I'm literally like, that's my cover. I'm like, I don't know. I'm a barista. No.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Cheyenne Grace
The only place that has actually reached out to me to reject me is Starbucks. And I'm like, oh, that's very nice.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Cheyenne Grace
But I was like, you're rejecting me?
Glenn Beck
Really?
Cheyenne Grace
I'm like, I'm like your number one fan, so.
Glenn Beck
Well, yeah, we will. Give me the address again of where people can follow the movie.
Cheyenne Grace
So if you want to follow up on the movie, their website is the best thing about Christmas movie dot com. And then you can find all of their socials on Facebook and Instagram at. The best thing about Christmas Movie.
Glenn Beck
It's a really uplifting. It's kind of.
Stu
Tell us more about the movie, Glenn. I want to know more what happened.
Cheyenne Grace
Please, please spoil more.
Glenn Beck
It's kind of like a wonderful life that you enjoy the movie, but it's such a great message. Oh, cool. It's really a great message.
Stu
You sound great. That was a great. That was an amazing clip. I feel like there's definitely the risk of in one of those scenes. Cause for people who couldn't see it, you're on stage at a bar and you're nervous and you're trying to sing. There's definitely potential for that scene to look cheesy and sound cheesy. It didn't, though. That was. That was great.
Cheyenne Grace
That's actually the first scene that I filmed when I stepped on set, they.
Glenn Beck
Were like, all right, walk on the set. First time, never acting, no film experience, nothing.
Cheyenne Grace
They were like, day one is our biggest day. And I was like, barf. And so I go on. And those are like real, real nerves because I'm singing in front of like probably 50 people that I have never met and I'm like, I have never.
Glenn Beck
And they're all actors and everybody else and they're like, go ahead, show us what you got.
Stu
Yeah, well, this is the same thing they did with in Rocky iv when Ivan Drago comes out from under the ground and he had never been in front of these people. There's a giant crowd there going crazy. It's supposed to be a Vegas boxing match. So you may be the next Dolph Lundgren.
Glenn Beck
The guns are all right. Thanks, Shy. I love you.
Cheyenne Grace
Yeah, thanks for having me.
Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
If Dutch Bros balls, put them right through. I mean I have a daughter who wants to work. She's great. Such a hard worker. She is so good and she's always the one that, like, seeks out the, you know, the loner and is like, come on, let's go. And she wants to work. She doesn't want to live off dad. And I, like, want to support that. So if you're a fan of the show and you work for any of these companies, she listed off, like, Dutch Bros. Is her dream, I think. But she. I mean, she will work her butt off and you'll make me so very happy because she's like, I don't want you paying for my rent and stuff. And I'm like, honey, I don't want to either.
Stu
We agree.
Glenn Beck
We agree. We are simpatico on that one.
Stu
And if you. If you're at Dutch Bros. And you're thinking, you see the last name Beck and you're concerned, like, all the milkshakes will get stolen. That's not like. That's not her. That doesn't.
Glenn Beck
She won't steal them. Dad has to come and drink them.
Stu
Yeah, you're talking about doubling your balance sheet. Drive through all the time. By the way, we were talking earlier about this AI Music and reminded me that Rolling Stone has released the top 250 songs of the 2000s of this century.
Glenn Beck
Top 250 are at a quarter.
Stu
Yeah, quarter century.
Glenn Beck
Oh, my gosh.
Stu
I know. It seems impossible.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, it does.
Stu
And I was kind of shocked at how many of them I had never heard of in my entire life. And you realize, like, first of all, obviously getting very old and you realize that this is culture's passing me by.
Glenn Beck
No, not only that we are getting old, but do you remember back in the 90s, we would go, Will we even be alive by 2030? How old will we be?
Stu
It seemed like so far away and still does.
Glenn Beck
So let's see how many we know.
Stu
So let me start at number 11, because he's been in the news lately. Bad bunny, bad bunny.
Glenn Beck
Number 11.
Stu
Nango Flow.
Glenn Beck
Nango and jowl and jowl and Randy. I don't know any of those.
Stu
The song is safer.
Glenn Beck
Well, that's one song.
Stu
Era. There you go.
Glenn Beck
I assume again we're talking in different Cheyenne in here. She probably would know all this.
Stu
Frank Ocean at number 10 with thinking bout you.
Glenn Beck
Oh, thinking about you, not about you.
Stu
And by the way, also not thinking.
Glenn Beck
Thinking, thinking, thinking about you.
Stu
Number nine. This 100 deserves to be in this list. And I fully mean this. And back it. I totally do. Britney Spears. Toxic. One of the greatest songs of all time. Number nine.
Glenn Beck
And it might be the one Britney Spears that I have blocked out. I don't remember that one. Kidding me. It's fast.
Stu
It's one of the greatest songs of all time. Totally deserves to be there. Number eight, radiotek. Idiotech. Which.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, Radiohead. I never.
Stu
I certainly know Radiohead. What did I say? Radiotek. Radiohead.
Glenn Beck
Okay.
Stu
Radio Tech.
Glenn Beck
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Stu
Backwards. I don't really even remember that song in particular, but whatever. Number seven, Kendrick Lamar. All right.
Glenn Beck
Oof.
Stu
Huge fan.
Glenn Beck
Best.
Stu
Number six.
Glenn Beck
That's the best we can do.
Stu
That is from 2015. Number six. From 2010, Robin dancing on my own. Oh, and number six. Number six. Number five. You may have heard of her. Taylor Swift. All too well. From 2012. I can't place. I'm sure I can't. I play this because my daughter listens to her constantly.
Glenn Beck
You could play Taylor Swift all day long and I would not rec you. Something familiar there. Nope, not at all. And I'm happy to say I have not missed that part of my life.
Stu
Really?
Glenn Beck
I'm not going to look back and go, I should have listened to more. Taylor Swift.
Stu
Number four. And I think this deserves to be in this conversation. The White Stripes, Seven nation Army. I mean, it's constantly played at every sporting event and, you know, that's why.
Glenn Beck
I don't know it.
Stu
You definitely know that song. 100% know that song. Number three, Beyonce featuring Jay Z. Crazy in Love from 2003. Number two, the.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stu
And their hit Maps.
Daniel Keane
Ah.
Stu
If you remember that Google Maps.
Glenn Beck
Is that.
Stu
It's the same song. Exact song.
Announcer
Yeah.
Stu
And number one. You've heard this song.
Glenn Beck
The next available opportunity. Turn around. That's my favorite part of Maps.
Stu
Really?
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Stu
Okay. Yeah, yeah. That is.
Announcer
Yeah, yeah.
Stu
It's just a GPS voice.
Glenn Beck
Just a GPS.
Stu
It's actually singing.
Daniel Keane
Yeah.
Stu
Number one.
Glenn Beck
The number one song of the last 25 years.
Stu
25 years. Missy Elliot, get your freak on. Which is number.
Glenn Beck
This list is going to be dug up in a thousand years. And they're going to go, do we need to dig any further? This is why their society collapsed.
Stu
Bury it again. Yeah, stop digging and start burying.
Glenn Beck
Excuse me, historians. We have the answer. We know what happened to their civilization.
Announcer
This is Glenn, Becky.
Date: October 9, 2025
Host: Glenn Beck (Blaze Podcast Network)
Guests: Carol Roth (economic analyst/author), Daniel Keene (business owner, interviewee)
This episode is anchored by the historic announcement of a U.S.-brokered peace deal in the Middle East, led by President Donald Trump, described by Glenn Beck and co-host Stu as a potential “moonshot” in world diplomacy. The discussion examines Trump’s negotiation style, the geopolitical implications of the agreement—including hostage releases, multi-nation cooperation, and unprecedented Arab-Israel relations—and reflects on the broader consequences for global stability and U.S. politics. Additional segments explore issues of free speech, the U.S. economy (with guest Carol Roth), church discipline in the context of controversial opinions (with Daniel Keene), and cultural commentary.
Opening Reflections on the Historic Deal
"Now, the guy who’s not going to get a Nobel Peace Prize, who actually earned one, Donald Trump on that anniversary date announces peace in the Middle East." (04:00)
On Trump’s Negotiation Tactics
"He just walks in, he's like, 'Hey everybody, what do you say we change the game entirely?'" (06:25)
On Arab-Israeli Trust and Shifting Alliances
"That was the moment the Palestinians said, 'Okay...maybe he is a somewhat honest broker.' That’s what brought this to a head." (13:15)
"They’ll guarantee the peace there because they'll have their money invested in it..." (14:55)
Skepticism and Celebration
"This is the moonshot of peace deals...Just getting here is an accomplishment." (10:47, Stu)
Political & Social Implications
"What is the left gonna say? How do you...have the Palestinian protesters on the streets tearing our cities apart? You don't. You don't. It's over." (16:17)
Daniel Keene’s Story: The Cost of Speaking Out
"My position, the expression of my position, was deemed as not loving towards other people. I just wholeheartedly disavow that and don't affirm that..." (34:00, Daniel Keene)
Record Gold Prices and Financial Instability
"The S&P 500...in dollar terms, is up 133%...in gold terms, it's down 27.6%." (53:00, Carol Roth)
Changing Global Financial Order
"The power center for gold is starting to shift to the East...making that a de facto reserve currency." (63:55)
AI-Driven Stock Market & Bubble Fears
The U.S. Budget Showdown & Government Dysfunction
On Healthcare & Obamacare’s Unsustainability
On Trump's Negotiation Style:
"He doesn't say, can't be done. He never says, can't be done, and that's why he moves mountains. It's just the power of positive thinking."
— Glenn Beck [06:39]
The Scale of the Breakthrough:
"This is the moonshot of peace deals... I mean, this is the moonshot."
— Glenn Beck [10:40]
On Arab Investment in Rebuilding Gaza:
"They'll rebuild it. They'll guarantee the peace there because they'll have their money invested in it... That changes everything, all the dynamics..." — Glenn Beck [14:55]
On Cancel Culture:
"You have a right to speak your mind peacefully, calmly, and have your own opinion." — Glenn Beck to Daniel Keene [39:41]
On American Gold Purchases vs. the World:
"The households in China and India are really ahead of the curve... the US is very behind in terms of what gold means." — Carol Roth [50:41]
On Modern Political Dysfunction:
"We need to really seriously rethink the accountability of the people who are supposed to quote unquote represent us, who are truly really only representing their interests and their path." — Carol Roth [77:12]
This episode captures a watershed in modern diplomacy with President Trump’s negotiated Middle East peace accord, unpacked in granular detail: how groundwork from years past enabled trust, why Trump’s unconventional style worked, the magnitude of economic and political stakes, and why skepticism persists even among those most invested. The discussion expands to examine domestic free speech battles through a real-world case and unpacks the growing uncertainty in the U.S. economy—rampant debt, crumbling currencies, and shifting global power—before swinging into lighter territory with music, AI, and family anecdotes.
For listeners seeking a window into political brinksmanship, the intersection of cultural war and commerce, and the currents beneath headline-making history, this episode delivers both breadth and depth—anchored in Beck’s characteristic voice of American resilience and candid critique.
03:32 — Middle East Deal Announced
13:15 — The “Honest Broker” Moment: Trump's rebuke of Netanyahu
27:07 — Daniel Keene’s ordeal and the price of speech
49:00 — Carol Roth: The $4,000/oz Gold Era
63:37 — Global Power Shift to Asia, Gold buying explained
68:51 — AI Bubble? Stock Market Analysis
73:05 — Government Shutdown Discussion
77:12 — Congressional Accountability & Healthcare
91:03 — Segment: Reactions to Peace Deal, Fragility & Implications
106:26 — Culture/AI Music/Pop Culture Banter
111:03 — Conversation with Daughter Cheyenne
Episode Takeaway: A blend of celebration, caution, historical reflection, and personal stories, this episode stands as both a commemoration of a world-changing diplomatic achievement and a meditation on the resilience—and challenges—of American society, politics, economy, and family.