No, Trump Is Not Sucking Up to China. Glenn Explains Why | Guests: Eva Vlaardingerbroek & Liz Truss | 5/14/26

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program — May 14, 2026

Episode: No, Trump Is Not Sucking Up to China. Glenn Explains Why
Guests: Eva Vlaardingerbroek (Dutch commentator), Liz Truss (Former UK Prime Minister), Douglas Brunt (historian/author)
Location: Live from London, England

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Main Theme

This episode navigates the intersection of free speech, political dissent, elite control, Western civilization’s challenges, and international relations—especially focusing on the West’s identity crisis, immigration issues, and the art of political negotiation, particularly with China. Glenn Beck draws connections across American and European turmoil, the growing strength of government bureaucracy, and the importance of open dialogue. The show features in-depth interviews and historic perspective by guests Eva Vlaardingerbroek, Liz Truss, and Douglas Brunt, with extensive discussion on US/China relations and broad critique of Western political culture’s drift.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Censorship and the Crisis of Western Civilization (w/ Eva Vlaardingerbroek)

Suppression of Speech in Europe and the UK

• Eva Vlaardingerbroek, newly banned from entering the UK, discusses increasing censorship:
  • [06:03] “Once you speak out about the injustices… especially about mass immigration or against the establishment, they come at you really hard. We do not have a First nor a Second Amendment. Free speech doesn't exist here in my opinion.”
  • Commenting on being banned specifically for criticizing Prime Minister Keir Starmer and for her nationalist, anti-immigration stance.
  • [10:49] Vlaardingerbroek: “They want to suppress any sense of identity and national pride… take away their means to stand up for themselves.”
• Glenn contextualizes this as part of a larger pattern echoing the so-called "Great Reset," tying it to elite-driven cultural and demographic change.
• Both emphasize the existential stakes: “Does Western civilization survive?”
  • Vlaardingerbroek: "It has to... the most important thing is that people are willing to dedicate their lives to fighting for it.” [17:56]
• Notable moment: Discussion of London’s massive security presence at rallies, with threats of jail for “agitating speech” [13:53].

2. Double Standards & Threats to Equal Justice

UK’s Two-Tiered Justice System

• [15:01] Eva: “Keir Starmer was nicknamed 'Two-Tier Keir' for a reason...puts ordinary citizens in jail for saying things he doesn’t like, yet allows hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come in.”
• Glenn and Eva cite reluctance to prosecute crimes by migrants, implying erosion of rule of law.

Parallels to the U.S.

• Glenn draws connections to the U.S.—the importance of maintaining national identity and the threat of unchecked bureaucracy/globalism if Trump’s movement falters.
• The Great Reset and global elites' strategies are discussed as undermining democracy and enabling unchecked migration.

3. The Art of the Deal: Trump’s China Diplomacy

Trump’s Negotiation Style

• [25:25] Clip: Trump to Xi Jinping—"You’re a great leader… Sometimes people don’t like me saying it, but I say it anyway because it’s true."
• Glenn explains that Trump’s public flattery is strategic, not submissive:
  • [26:10] “Let's remember how I view Donald Trump. He grew up with the power of positive thinking… he speaks things into existence.”
  • [27:33] Recounts stories of Trump mixing direct power signaling with flattery (e.g., joking with Xi about nuclear capability during negotiation).
  • Discussion that Trump’s praise is a negotiation tactic that puts US interests first, emulating techniques from Machiavelli, Ben Franklin, Henry Kissinger, and Dale Carnegie.

Media Critiques

• Glenn and Stu lambast media accusations of Trump “sucking up to China,” arguing that the real “sellouts” were the Bidens, while Trump’s strategy is what secured American interests.

Notable Quote:

“Flattery, America, is not always about admiration. It’s about giving another human being enough dignity to move in your direction… You have to understand ego to negotiate effectively.” – Stu Burguiere [31:22]

Timestamps:

• [25:25] Trump’s remarks to Xi
• [26:10–30:13] Glenn and Stu unpack Trump’s negotiation strategy and compare with past diplomats.

4. CIA, Fauci, and the Erosion of Trust

Congressional Testimony and Media Obfuscation

• Glenn describes a Senate hearing where possible CIA/Fauci COVID cover-ups were discussed, but the story quickly devolved into debates over missing files and conspiracy theories.
• Illuminates the broader problem: confusion, institutional mistrust, and media distractions keep the public from focusing on core issues like government honesty in crises.
• [52:04] – [55:43] Four Principles for a Free Society:
  1. Government must never knowingly mislead during a crisis.
  2. Scientific debate must remain open.
  3. Intelligence agencies should not manage domestic narratives.
  4. Skepticism must be disciplined—don't fall into paranoia.
• Glenn: “No institution should become so powerful that questioning it becomes dangerous. No citizen should become so tribal that the truth itself no longer matters.” [58:32]

5. Interviews – Deep Dives

Douglas Brunt: The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel

• Brunt discusses the Nobel family’s suppressed role in Russian oil history and how Stalin’s erasure of Nobel influenced Orwell’s "1984".
• Parallels between Russia’s past and the West’s present—control of narrative, erasure of dissent, centralization of power.

Jamie Raskin Grills Teen Witness

• Glenn plays audio of Rep. Jamie Raskin cross-examining a 16-year-old conservative student about church, state, and Islam in public schools.
• Showcases the hostile environment for Christian (and, by extension, conservative) perspectives in official inquisition-like settings.

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6. Liz Truss: Decline of Britain, Marxism, and the Way Forward

State of the UK

• Truss asserts the UK is “very, very close to the edge” on debt, crime, and cultural decay. “You [Americans] are now 50% richer than the average Brit…we are poorer than Mississippi.” [89:03]
• Details the “bubble” for elites in London vs. decline in working/middle-class regions.

The Nature of the Crisis

• Immigration crisis, Islamist influence (“Islamic Communists”), bureaucratic infiltration.
• [97:39] Truss: “Their end goal is destructionism…destroying the West from within.”
• Concern over loss of free speech, institutional censorship, and rising surveillance for speech at nationalist rallies.

Rebuilding Western Civilization

• Truss argues for a "Trump-star revolution" in Britain, but recognizes the scale of the challenge: “They [the left] started in the universities…they're like cockroaches, very hard to take out.” [102:30]
• Advocates for the development of conservative grassroots/movements akin to the Tea Party or MAGA, and launch of UK’s own CPAC.
• The need for anti-system leaders and stronger pro-free speech culture.
• Glenn and Truss discuss global elite networks (WEF, NGOs) undermining national and local priorities, often using taxpayer funds from the US and UK.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Eva Vlaardingerbroek [17:56]: “Western civilization has to survive…People are willing to dedicate their lives to fighting for it.”
• Glenn Beck [58:32]: “No institution should become so powerful that questioning it becomes dangerous. No citizen should become so tribal that the truth itself no longer matters.”
• Liz Truss [89:03]: “We are poorer than Mississippi, the poorest state in America… and it is hitting people really hard.”
• Glenn Beck [102:17]: “We need 12 years to stomp this out. 12 solid years of the same policies and we can stomp it out. Anything less, it won’t work.”
• Liz Truss [97:39]: “Their end goal is destroying the West. These are Islamic Communists. If you look at Mamdani or you look at Zach Polanski… that ends like Iran.”

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Noteworthy Segments Timestamps

• [06:03–18:12] Eva Vlaardingerbroek interview (free speech, immigration, suppression)
• [25:25–35:11] Trump’s China remarks & Glenn’s negotiation breakdown
• [44:12–55:56] CIA/Fauci/COVID hearing dissection and four principles for a free society
• [68:12–77:28] Douglas Brunt: Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel (history, parallels)
• [87:09–121:17] Liz Truss interview (UK crisis, bureaucracy, immigration, Western future)
• [61:41–64:19] Rep. Raskin vs. Hunter Lopez (school/Islam/Christianity hearing)

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

The episode is urgent, polemical, and steeped in Glenn Beck’s signature blend of historical narrative, cultural anxiety, and dark humor. There’s an undercurrent of defiance: against censorship, media manipulation, globalist elites, and the hollowing out of national pride and civil liberties in both America and Britain.

Glenn, through his guests and monologues, underscores the stakes: failure to resist leads to the loss of Western civilization as it has existed. The episode insists that understanding history, resisting false narratives, and building grassroots movements are existential tasks.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a dense, wide-ranging discussion capturing the fever pitch of 2026’s political moment—in Britain, the US, and the broader West. It offers both granular details (individual cases, rallies, parliamentary battles) and sweeping analysis (on Western decline, power, negotiation, identity). Anyone trying to understand the West’s self-inflicted wounds, and emerging strategies for resistance, will find the show both clarifying and provocative.

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For further context or to witness key moments first-hand, see:

• [06:03–18:12] Eva Vlaardingerbroek on free speech and her UK ban
• [25:25–35:11] Trump-Xi meeting analysis
• [87:09–121:17] Liz Truss on the decline of the UK and strategies for Western renewal

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Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program live from London, England. This week, I want to talk to you about the CIA. There's this big brush up here in the Senate yesterday where they were talking about the lies that Fauci told and then all of a sudden, fog of war. Now we're not talking about that. Now we're talking about MK Ultra. And how dare a senator treat the CIA no, no, the CIA shouldn't. It is insane what's going on. Also kind of the fog of war a little bit on what is happening with Donald Trump, what is being said now about the negotiations and what Donald Trump said to the president of China. We'll get into that here in a second. J.D. raskin was harassing a 16 year old Texan. He was asked to testify in front of Congress, a 16 year old kid

[Stu Burguiere]

on Sharia law, what was happening in

[Glenn Beck]

his school and how Muslims were getting

[Stu Burguiere]

special treatment that Christians would never get.

[Glenn Beck]

And so he goes up and testifies and here comes JD Raskin harassing this kid and trying to pummel him. And the kid just runs, in my opinion, runs circles around him. But it's worth looking into. Now, I want to start with kind of that whole thing because what's happening in America is a lot farther behind what's happening in Europe and in England. And I'm here in England for a big rally on, you know, equally applied justice and Sharia law in England. And some of the people that were coming in to speak have been banned by Keir Starmer, the prime minister. One of them is a Dutch political commentator. She is really good. I've watched her for a long time and she's joining us here in just a minute. She's been banned. I want to find out why.

[Stu Burguiere]

What was she planning on saying that

[Glenn Beck]

would be so disruptive and so hateful that the people of England shouldn't hear her voice? She's joining me here in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about rough greens. Most dog owners have no idea what's actually in their dog's food. And even fewer realize what's been left out. Because even the most expensive brands, the ones marketed as complete or balanced, are still highly processed for shelf life. By law, it has to sit on a shelf for two, two and a half years. Well, nothing is nothing that has anything live or good for you in there is going to last for two years. So you end up cooking out all of the natural ingredients. And that's where Ruff Greens comes in. It's not a new brand of dog food. It's a nutritional supplement that you just

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

Hi Glenn. It's great to see you. Be it virtually in a normal world, I would have been with you in a studio, but I guess that's why we're talking today.

[Glenn Beck]

I know and I was looking forward to meeting you. We have, we have tried to book you for a very, very long time, I think. I watch your videos and I just don't see the inner hidden Nazi that everybody, I guess in parliament in Europe feels you are. You've been making a great case for the farmers in the Netherlands and honestly

[Stu Burguiere]

I didn't understand the plight of the

[Glenn Beck]

Dutch farmer until I come here and I start looking at the high gas prices and then I start looking at the taxes that they are putting on top of them. And is it Holland? I can't remember which, which country is

[Stu Burguiere]

adding almost a five dollar gasoline tax per gallon.

[Glenn Beck]

There's.

[Stu Burguiere]

And they're doing it for global warming. There's no way any farmer can survive

[Glenn Beck]

$5 a gallon gas on top of what they're paying.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right?

[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

That's right. And it's not the only thing. I mean the attacks on the farmers are, you know, they go far beyond even just the gas. They've been going on for years and years and years. And it was something that I cared about a lot. And I guess to get back to your previous statement about that, you don't see the inner Nazi in me that, you know, they make me out to be here in Europe. I guess, you know, that's what this boils down to. It's once you speak out about the injustices that are being done against groups like the farmers or against the native population in Europe. When you talk about mass immigration or in general to just go against the establishment, they come at you really hard over here. And as you know, we do not have a first nor a second amendment. You know, free, free speech doesn't exist here in my opinion because it's very, very limited. Limited to essentially the, the mainstream narrative. I mean, if you, if you repeat that then you're fine. But if you go against it, then you get smeared, you get prosecuted, you get banned from countries now. So yeah, the list goes on and on. And on. And I guess that's what I've been experiencing here for many, many years. And I'm sorry I didn't go on your show before. I've had a bit of a wild ride the past two years. Getting married, having a baby. It's been. It's been really fun, but it's been intense. So I hope we can, can do this more often from now.

[Glenn Beck]

I would. We would love it. So tell me, the. What is the thing that you planned on saying that would agitate that was just too tough for the English people to hear, according to Keir Starmer.

[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

Okay, I'll give you a little bit of a backstory because I actually got banned back in January already. I received an email out of the blue. I hadn't booked flight flights yet to go to the rally now coming up on Saturday. I hadn't even publicly confirmed that I was going to be speaking again because I spoke at the last big Unite the Kingdom rally in September, a couple of days after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. And that was incredible. You know, there were many tributes to him. Specifically, we were talking about immigration. I made a point to really make a plea for re migration. And I attacked Keir Starmer in my speech quite, you know, strongly. But that's not illegal in a free, you know, Western liberal democracy, is it, you think? But yeah, so I, I received an email out of the blue from the United Kingdom government saying that they had revoked my eta, which is basically the UK version of an esta. You know, what Europeans need to go to Americ after Brexit. We needed something similar to go to the UK and they just revoked it. And I thought to myself, how, how is this possible? What's happening? What happened in the past couple of days that they decided to do this now out of the blue? And then I, I figured, oh, I posted a tweet calling Keir Starmer an evil, despicable man. Just three days prior to that, receiving that email. And I had been on the phone with Tommy Robinson privately confirming that I would be speaking at that rally. And now when we, you know, when we're talking about many attacks on free speech here in Europe for your audience, I received a message from Apple a year ago saying that my phone was under mercenary spyware attack, meaning someone's listening to me all of the time. And I don't know, you know, I can only speculate, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone thought the fact that she's calling out Starmer for what he is, in my opinion, and that she's planning to go and speak again at that rally. And it was such a success last time. We want to avoid that from happening again. And they banned me already back in January, and now they're banning basically everyone who was coming from abroad to speak at that rally.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me ask you why.

[Stu Burguiere]

What are they so.

[Glenn Beck]

What are they so enthralled with? I mean, they have.

[Stu Burguiere]

They have pushed aside all of the

[Glenn Beck]

working class, the farmers, they've destroyed the factories. I mean, England really doesn't have, you know, any manufacturing left to speak of here. So I don't know where their growth is going to come from. You know, I guess people think the financial. Financial markets. So that ain't gonna happen. They've. They've destroyed these communities. Now they've moved in people that just

[Stu Burguiere]

don't seem to want to be English.

[Glenn Beck]

They don't want the culture. They want their own culture.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, you had that culture where you

[Glenn Beck]

came from go, you go back, that's fine.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm not saying anything bad about your

[Glenn Beck]

culture, but it's not this culture.

[Stu Burguiere]

And it, you know, Sharia law in

[Glenn Beck]

particular, is incompatible with the Western culture.

[Stu Burguiere]

It cannot happen or coexist.

[Glenn Beck]

And the list of countries where they've tried it shows.

[Stu Burguiere]

It fails every single time.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm trying to figure out where these elites think they're going to end up.

[Stu Burguiere]

I mean, how do they even begin

[Glenn Beck]

to think this is going to work for their country?

[Stu Burguiere]

What is their plan?

[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

I mean, you know, I think it's very sinister. If you manage to completely suppress any sense of identity and national pride in your own people, you weaken them. You know, you take away all of the landmarks that once made them great. You take away their means to stand up for themselves and say, I don't want to be treated by you this way. I don't want to be thrown in jail by you just because I say something that you disagree with or that threatens your power. Because that's what this boils down to, right? I mean, in the United Kingdom, Keir Starmer is putting ordinary citizens in jail for saying things that he doesn't like, especially when it comes to immigration, especially when it comes to Islam. Because, you know, if you go against that and if you say no, I do take pride in my culture, in my heritage, in my history, and I don't want to see it destroyed. Well, then, you know, you go against them, you go against what they've been doing, and they will not get reelected. And obviously, Keir Starmer has an approval rate that is at an historic low. So this man is just holding on to power for dear life. And I don't think that he, that he really thinks about or doesn't care at least what type of message it sends to the, to the world to say, okay, we're going to throw our own citizens in jail. And then the people who we can't throw in jail because they're not our citizens, we're just going to ban. But you know, what they want to avoid is to see that massive crowd that we saw in September of all of these people waving their flags, showing that national pride, saying, no, I am English, I am British, I am proud to be British. And Keir Starmer, well, they said a lot of things that were maybe even less nice, you know, than what I said about him when they were there. And he clearly fears that. So that's what I think this comes down to. They want to, they want to suppress that at all costs.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, they came out with, you know, there'd be 4,000 police officers there. They're not going to put up with anything on the stage. And if anybody says anything that agitates, they will be dealt with quickly and taken to jail. I mean, I know what I'm going to say and I'm not going to change a word. I don't care. You know, I don't care. I'm not going to, I mean, I don't even know what that is.

[Stu Burguiere]

I don't even know what you're. What are you threatening?

[Glenn Beck]

What are you so afraid of?

[Stu Burguiere]

What kind of speech is it that

[Glenn Beck]

you are so afraid of? I mean, I understand if you are actually going out and you're calling for violence, that's another thing. But if you're just saying, I am proud of my country, I'm proud of our heritage, I don't, I don't denigrate other people's heritage.

[Stu Burguiere]

But if you are going to come

[Glenn Beck]

here, you have to live by our laws.

[Stu Burguiere]

And there can't be a two tier justice system. You can't rape our children, you can't do that. And, and why are they not being prosecuted? And yet you're looking and measuring every

[Glenn Beck]

word I say here.

[Stu Burguiere]

It doesn't make any sense.

[Glenn Beck]

What is it that they're afraid of?

[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

It's a disgrace. It's a disgrace. Exactly. I mean, Keir Starmer was nicknamed two tier Cure for a reason. It's exactly that. I mean, also my case now, the fact that I've been banned, you know, I'm a Dutch woman without a criminal record, I'm a lawyer I'm a commentator. I've never done anything illegal. So the only crime that I've committed is speaking my mind. And he bans me from entering the country for a day, yet allows hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants to come in who are there to claim social benefits, who do not want to assimilate into English society whatsoever. We've seen that, you know, that we are beyond that now. And I think what he's so afraid of, especially in my case, was saying, look, Keir Starmer, you are an evil and despicable man because you have betrayed your own people. And that is not something that, you know, is something that we should easily forgive. Keir Starmer should be out of office. Should have been out of office, like.

[Stu Burguiere]

But is it just Eva, is it.

[Glenn Beck]

Is it just Keir Starmer? Because this is all part of the Great Reset.

[Stu Burguiere]

I mean, this is happening in your country, in all over Europe.

[Glenn Beck]

And if, if Donald Trump, if we, if somehow or another it fails and you don't get a Marco Rubio or J.D. vance or somebody who understands what Donald Trump is trying to do, it's all going to come rushing back to America as well.

[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

Yes, that's right. I mean, hearing. It's not, it's not just gear, Starmer. I mean, you know, the United Kingdom left the European Union. We are still stuck in with the European Union looming over our heads, restricting our speech, deciding what happens to our borders, eroding our national identities. You know, even just the idea of democracy really doesn't exist in the way that it should. In a sense that we have supranational organizations dictating what our laws should be, because they have precedence over the laws that we make in our national parliaments. You know, so the people that we represent or that represent us, that we vote into office, they are below in hierarchy, unelected bureaucrats who stand for exactly that same agenda of what you call the Great Reset. And that's, that's the, the globalist agenda. Of course, you have to erode this, all these national identities, and you have to suppress that national pride in order to create that world that they, of course, can govern without control. Because, I mean, democracy and globalism, that doesn't go together. That doesn't work. So you're right, it's not just Keir Starmer. It's everywhere. In Europe, at least, it's. It's really bad. But Orban out of office, we also lost one of our strongest fighters against that system. So even though I'm someone who's hopeful and Always will be because I believe in God and I believe that, you know, good will eventually prevail. We are in a dire situation. There's no doubt about it.

[Glenn Beck]

Does Western civilization survive?

[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

It has to. It has to. And you know, you, myself and I think many other people will are willing to dedicate their lives to fighting for it at least. And that's the most important thing.

[Glenn Beck]

Eva, thank you so much. I hope we get to meet someday. Thank you.

[Eva Vlaardingerbroek]

Me too. Be safe. Have a lot of fun on Saturday. And I can't wait to see you guys at least on screen. I think it's going to be fantastic.

[Glenn Beck]

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to start the stream at 9am Eastern. You, if you can get there, it's about a one mile walk. If he'll be speaking around 10, 10, 30 Eastern.

[Glenn Beck]

We're all walking to. They have a big march and then, you know, those of us who are going to speak, I'm going to speak and you can watch it [e-mail] torch I'm here because I think this is historic, one way or another. I haven't figured it out yet. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know exactly why I'm here. I know exactly what I'm supposed to say, but I don't know exactly why I'm here. But I feel this is a very historic turning point moment that you should be witness to and I wanted to be witness to. But at the same time they're doing this, the city of London has also given permission for a Nakba march. Now, if you don't know what Nakba is, nakba in Arabic means catastrophe. What is the day of catastrophe? The day Israel became a state. That's the catastrophe. Israel becomes a state. And they say that Israel kicked all of these people out of the state. Well, well, they didn't. They didn't. In fact, the Arab states were the ones that were saying, get out, get out, get out. Because we're coming in with our armies and we don't want to kill innocent Palestinians. So get out. About 160,000 Palestinians stayed. And guess where they are today? They're living in Israel as citizens of Israel. Israel said stay, don't, don't, we don't want war, don't. Well, the Arab world decided they were going to go for war and wipe it out. And they lost that war. And so the people who left were

[Stu Burguiere]

not welcome back in.

[Glenn Beck]

Some of them were, but not all of them. I just want to throw this in one person. If you listen to the show, you know the meaning of this. The guy who is really saying, don't stay, get out Palestinians, because we're going

[Stu Burguiere]

to kill them all was Hajj Amin

[Glenn Beck]

Al Husani, you remember who he is? He's the Grand Mufti, the key Palestinian leader, the guy who I believe started Hamas. And he was the one that said, get out. All Palestinians need to get out.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's the guy who was playing kissy

[Glenn Beck]

face with Adolf Hitler.

[Stu Burguiere]

Not a good guy.

[Glenn Beck]

Not a good guy.

[Stu Burguiere]

But I don't think they're worried about the hate speech coming from the Nakba

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Stu Burguiere]

All right, I want to play a

[Glenn Beck]

clip from the president in China today because everybody is just kicking up, they're

[Stu Burguiere]

very angry at Donald Trump for what

[Glenn Beck]

he said, here he is in a meeting room full of, you know, I don't know who they are, Chinese people, as they're getting ready to talk to President Xi and listen to what President Trump says.

[Stu Burguiere]

Listen.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

You and I have known each other now for a long time. In fact, the longest relationship of our two countries that any president and president has had. And that's, to me, an honor. We've had a fantastic relationship. We've gotten along. When there were difficulties, we worked it out. I would call you and you would call me, and whenever we had a problem, people don't know. Whenever we had a problem, we worked it out very quickly, and we're going to have a fantastic future together. Such respect for China, the job you've done. You're a great leader. I say it to everybody. You're a great leader. Sometimes people don't like me saying it, but I say it anyway because it's true.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, what did he just say that's so wrong? First of all, let's remember how I view Donald Trump. He grew up with the power of positive thinking. That was literally the church that he went to.

[Stu Burguiere]

He speaks things into existence.

[Glenn Beck]

That's why he said, we have a fantastic future in front of us.

[Stu Burguiere]

I know.

[Glenn Beck]

I know for a fact, because I've talked to the president. He has. When they've had problems he has had,

[Stu Burguiere]

he gets them on the phone and

[Glenn Beck]

they talk and they solve things.

[Stu Burguiere]

They have a very different relationship, I think, than most do. The president has.

[Glenn Beck]

I told you a story.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think it was yesterday, the day

[Glenn Beck]

before the president having dinner with presidency

[Stu Burguiere]

and then going off and killing Soleimani

[Glenn Beck]

and just excusing himself from the table.

[Stu Burguiere]

Excuse me.

[Glenn Beck]

I'll be right back. I have something to do. Goes upstairs, goes to the safe, goes

[Stu Burguiere]

to the skiff, watches the death of Soleimani, comes back, joins Z at the table and says, sorry, I just had to kill General Soleimani in. In Iran. And Z kind of looked at him and he was like, yeah. And he did it intentionally to send the message, I can just take care of this and have dinner with you, and it's not really a big deal for the United States. We can walk and juggle at the same time, plus chew gum at that

[Glenn Beck]

same meeting, if I'm not mistaken, the president has told me that he had said something along the lines of, you don't want to do that. And I don't remember what they were arguing back and forth on. He said, but you don't want to do that, because I can just Make

[Stu Burguiere]

Beijing disappear, which is kind of a

[Glenn Beck]

threat of a launch, nuclear missiles. And President Xi kind of laughed and kind of like.

[Stu Burguiere]

And then looked at Trump, and Trump

[Glenn Beck]

didn't break eye contact, didn't laugh, and presidency got the.

[Stu Burguiere]

Got the message, Okay. I don't really know who he is.

[Glenn Beck]

All right?

[Stu Burguiere]

So that's the relationship that I know

[Glenn Beck]

that they have, and I know very little.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay. And I also know that President Trump

[Glenn Beck]

has a way of dealing with people.

[Stu Burguiere]

For instance, he might like you, and

[Glenn Beck]

he will flatter you and say great things, and it feels good being in his presence when he says good things to you, and it feels bad when he doesn't. But you have to understand, that's the way he does things. For instance, President Trump and I got along really well before he started running the first term. I didn't like him running for first term.

[Stu Burguiere]

I was wrong. And I thought he would be a. I thought he was a closeted liberal, and he wasn't behaving that way two years into his term. I said, you know what? I'm wrong. Look at what he's doing. He's not what I thought he was. And I apologized on air. He called me, and he was very nice. Now, Ricky, last time we were with the president and we were leaving, and we were leaving the residence, and we're walking down the stairs, and you said to the president, joking, don't worry, he's gonna say nice things about you tomorrow. Right. And what was his response?

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[Stu Burguiere]

No, he said, don't worry about it. Oh, right. He'll just. I'll just say that he's a big loser.

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Okay, well, he hasn't said that before.

[Stu Burguiere]

I know he says that. That's what he does. That's what he does. Now. Let's put that into global policy. What does he do? He says, you know, who's the short man from. From South Korea or North Korea?

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Kim Jong Un.

[Stu Burguiere]

Kim Jong Un. He's like, kim Jong Un. I love this guy.

[Glenn Beck]

He's great.

[Stu Burguiere]

And then Kim Jong Un doesn't do anything. He's like, I'm going to launch some more missiles. And so what does he do? He's a big fat loser, and he's a little short guy, and I might have to vaporize his country. Then he flies over and he meets

[Glenn Beck]

with him, and what does he do? You're the greatest. I love you.

[Stu Burguiere]

You're wonderful. And what happens?

[Glenn Beck]

We get what we need from North Korea.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's the president's mo. How many Years. Do you need to watch him before

[Glenn Beck]

you recognize his pattern? Okay.

[Stu Burguiere]

Princes and people, generally speaking, prefer people who make them feel strong and powerful and wise. You're not hanging out with somebody who

[Glenn Beck]

is humiliating you publicly. Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Why would you do that? Even if you believe you're right, if you're negotiating, this is the principle that

[Glenn Beck]

runs through the prince. Machiavelli. Machiavelli.

[Stu Burguiere]

I can't even say it.

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Machiavelli.

[Glenn Beck]

Machiavelli. It runs through the art of the

[Stu Burguiere]

deal all the way through, and it's uncomfortable, but it is. Human people are not ruled by reason. Most are ruled by pride and fear and vanity and status and insecurity and ambition. So if you're a negotiator and you understand ego, you're going to get farther than somebody who just states the facts.

[Glenn Beck]

You know what? You're a dictator. You're killing people. I don't like you.

[Stu Burguiere]

What is he going to do? What are you going to get? Okay. One of the core themes in the prince is that rulers have to be handled according to their nature, not according to the moral wishes of how we wish they should behave. And that means praise and symbolism and ceremony. Why do you think. Why do you think China lined up all those people in front of Trump's airplane? Why do you think they did that? Because they wanted him to feel totally respected. Do you think China likes President Trump? They don't like him at all. Why would they treat him like a arriving hero? Because they want something. Phrase from phrase from Machiavelli. Let's see here. Where was it he said, men are so simple and so subject to present necessities that he who seeks to deceive will always find someone who will allow himself to be deceived? Okay, this is. This is you. Do you want to be around people who make you feel big?

[Glenn Beck]

Okay.

[Stu Burguiere]

Ben Franklin understood this. There was something in the day called the Franklin effect. What Franklin would do is he'd ask somebody, a rival, for a favor. Now, you would never think, why would I ask him for just, I need your help on something. Why? I need your help. I just. I would like your. I'd like your thoughts on this. You're bringing them in. You're saying, I really respect your judgment, and I know you're a helper. I know you're somebody who will help me. Franklin was. He was a BS artist like nobody's business. He was great. He figured out if you ask somebody for a favor, just. Hey, can you just look at this? I respect your judgment. All of A sudden, the entire relationship changes. Okay, Dale Carnegie.

[Glenn Beck]

Ever heard that? His whole thing with Dale Carnegie is

[Stu Burguiere]

people defend their dignity harder than they defend their truth.

[Glenn Beck]

You get Trump, art of the deal. What does he do every single time? Very smart. I like this guy. He's very good. He's tough, he's strong. A lot of people don't like me saying it, but he's a fantastic guy.

[Stu Burguiere]

What is he doing? He's saying, when he said a lot

[Glenn Beck]

of people don't like me saying this,

[Stu Burguiere]

what is he saying? I'm taking on my own people for you. Do you think that. Just imagine you're the president of China.

[Glenn Beck]

Does that feel good?

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay. A person, if you lose face publicly, the negotiation changes. It stops being about interests and it becomes about survival and ego. And he knows that. You know, when Henry Kissinger. Why don't we ever talk about. Why isn't anybody talking about Henry Kissinger? When he went and met with Mao, MAO Killed what, 90 million people? And what happens? Millions die. Here comes the president's airplane.

[Glenn Beck]

And Kissinger gets off and.

[Stu Burguiere]

And Kissinger calls him a philosopher, a man of great historic vision.

[Glenn Beck]

He has strategic insight. He's disciplined, and he understands history.

[Stu Burguiere]

Do you think he said that because he liked Mao? No, he said that because we needed China on our side and off the side of the Soviet Union, that mattered more.

[Glenn Beck]

Here's the thing.

[Stu Burguiere]

We are no longer living in a society that understands any of this. We don't even understand comedians or laughter, okay? Let alone the art of negotiation or

[Glenn Beck]

the art of war.

[Stu Burguiere]

We just want to win. We want to feel superior. You get nowhere with that. We want jokes that don't result in laughter. We want jokes that result in clapter. We want the jokes now. They're like, yes, yes, you've just confirmed me that I.

[Glenn Beck]

So smart.

[Stu Burguiere]

The president could go and make you feel really, really good. Is that what's best for America? Because I don't care how I feel today. I want to know that this is good for me and my country in the long run. Today is fleeting. Flattery, America is not always about admiration. It's about giving another human being enough dignity to move in your direction. I will tell you every time a moral scold, you scold somebody and you have the moral high ground, you'll get the applause. But the one who comes in and flatters wins. By the way, breaking news. Presidency apparently just told Trump he will provide anything he needs to help him end the war in Iran. Like I said, I like that guy. I like him a lot. More in a minute.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

You know, I'm so sick of.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm just sick of the media, you know, saying, oh, this is the way we deal with China now.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, shut up.

[Glenn Beck]

Shut up.

[Stu Burguiere]

You had Hunter and Joe Biden making all kinds of backroom deals, getting rich

[Glenn Beck]

themselves on China deals. This president has done more to hurt

[Stu Burguiere]

China and to help America than any

[Glenn Beck]

other president on China. I think maybe ever, maybe ever, at least since 1972, he is doing it strategically. Here's an example of what you don't do strategically.

[Stu Burguiere]

We are in the middle of negotiating with Iran, right?

[Glenn Beck]

You want to negotiate with as much strength as possible. So what happens in the Senate this week?

[Stu Burguiere]

Rand Paul, Susan Collins and Murkowski all come out and flip on the Iran, on the Iranian war, and they all say, we don't he. The president doesn't have our support. What is the biggest gift you could give to Iran? You could show that this support is fading. I don't care if your support is fading. I don't care if you call the president up and you Call him all the worst names in the world. When you hang up the phone that's in private, you get back out and say, we are with the President, at least through the negotiations. You do whatever you want behind the scenes, but this is that you've just lost the negotiations. What is wrong with people? Do they, do they really not understand how negotiations work? Or are they just so self centered

[Glenn Beck]

that all they care about is the next election?

[Stu Burguiere]

I know Rand Paul well enough to

[Glenn Beck]

know he's principled on this. He really doesn't like war.

[Stu Burguiere]

He doesn't need to make an announcement. We know where he stands. But Murkowski and Susan Collins, why are you jumping into this right now? Why are you hurting us at the moment where we have Iran, hopefully close to the end of this? You're going to give them hope that,

[Glenn Beck]

you know what, the Americans might just give in on this. They might turn on the President and they might have to, they might have to leave.

[Stu Burguiere]

We could win this thing. Why would you do that? Why? Why would you do that? I tell you, I just don't believe

[Glenn Beck]

the people in Washington are this stupid. I can believe that they are this self centered, but I can't believe that they're this stupid.

[Stu Burguiere]

And just occasionally, it would be really nice to see some people who actually

[Glenn Beck]

put their country first.

[Stu Burguiere]

You know, I like Fetterman's stance. Fetterman's against this.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, he agrees with going in and stopping and making sure they don't have a, you know, a nuke.

[Stu Burguiere]

But he's not a big fan of this. And his stance has been, we're in it now.

[Glenn Beck]

So whatever.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's my stance. It doesn't matter what I thought before or after. You're in it now. The decision has been made. You can have the debate at the appropriate times, but the appropriate time is not while you're in peace negotiations. You want to look like the most bloodthirsty people you can possibly look like when you're in negotiations. It's called negotiations. It's called bluffing. Why does the Senate and the Congress always, and our media always choose, choose to take cards off our side of the table when we need them the most? The hell is wrong with people? More in just a minute.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad you're here. Thank you so much for listening. I just don't understand what's happening with the.

[Stu Burguiere]

With the Fauci, CIA, MK Ultra thing.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, I don't even know what.

[Stu Burguiere]

What are we even arguing about anymore.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't. I'm completely lost. Is it just me? I.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yesterday, a CIA employee testified to a Senate panel about something really important. That Foushee influenced the Intelligence Range Report to downplay that that the virus most likely came from a lab leak in China. Finally, we have somebody who is verifying this. And then 20 minutes into it, he starts talking about missing JFK files and MK Ultra files.

[Glenn Beck]

And now the world has lost its mind. I want to show you this cycle. It is insane.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's just insane.

[Glenn Beck]

We'll get to that here in just a second. First, let me tell you about preborn.

[Stu Burguiere]

How many people are walking around right

[Glenn Beck]

now because somebody chose not to give up on them?

[Stu Burguiere]

Happened to me.

[Glenn Beck]

Happened to me.

[Stu Burguiere]

Every person you've ever known, every friend, every spouse, every child, every great historic

[Glenn Beck]

figure, every person who ever made the world better in some way.

[Stu Burguiere]

All of them exist because at some point, somebody chose life.

[Glenn Beck]

Or somebody just. Somebody just said, you know what?

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

20 minutes into this thing yesterday, this

[Stu Burguiere]

expert talking about Fauci brings something else up that is important in and of itself.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay?

[Stu Burguiere]

Missing JFK files and missing MK Ultra files. Wait a minute, what?

[Glenn Beck]

And they were in whose office?

[Stu Burguiere]

And who went it?

[Glenn Beck]

Was that a raid? Not a raid.

[Stu Burguiere]

And everything is lost.

[Glenn Beck]

Everything is lost.

[Stu Burguiere]

And this is why I think, this

[Glenn Beck]

is why I feel this way. I think the average person sits in their kitchen or their truck every day listening to shows like this and they just are like, I don't even care anymore.

[Stu Burguiere]

I don't even know why I listen to this stuff. Why do I pay attention? I mean, I don't even know who to believe. I don't know what's true, what's not. This is the most dangerous place a free people can arrive. Because once there's a collapse in trust completely, once it's completely gone. Once. Once every institution sounds like a rival propaganda arm. We can't reason together.

[Glenn Beck]

And look at us, we can barely reason.

[Stu Burguiere]

We can't reason our way out of a wet paper bag right now. Let's look at these stories.

[Glenn Beck]

Boxes of CIA related files reportedly discovered

[Stu Burguiere]

questions again about what intelligence agencies knew when they knew It. Who handled the investigations, the origin of the investigations, who helped shape the narrative publicly versus privately. And at the same time, renewed scrutiny around Anthony Fauci. His testimony, internal communications, gain of function, debates, funding questions, the attempt to define terms after the fact. The guy calls himself science himself. And whether the American people and the people of the world were given the truth during one of the largest societal disruptions in history. Well, we can't have any of that out. We can't have any of that out. So what do we do? Turn on the machine. We got to just turn on the machine. Get somebody to scream, cover up.

[Glenn Beck]

And.

[Stu Burguiere]

Because then the other side will scream conspiracy theory. And then cable news will pick teams. Let me guess. The MSNBC will be for the left and. And FOX will be for the right. And God only knows what CNN is doing. Does anybody even watch social media filled with amateur detectives and professional liars and politicians that will take all of this and turn it into just fundraising copy? This is why we need your money now more than ever. The stakes are too high. Give, give, give. Meanwhile, the little baby in between us, the truth suffocates. And why does that happen? Because for one reason, we're all goldfish. We cannot pay attention and stay focused on one thing for more than five seconds. And then the other thing is, we can't admit that the world is not entirely black and white. There are. There is good and evil, but there is also shades of gray when it comes to which side is good side and which side is a bad side. People said some absolutely crazy things during COVID that were wrong. They've put a chip inside of the vaccine. They're chipping all of us. They're going to be tracking all of us. Not true. Not true. And then there was a lot of stuff that was said that sounded crazy, and these institutions just dismissed legitimate questions. And those people were wrong. Wait, both sides can't be right and wrong. Yes, they can. Yes, they can. This is the part that modern America and the rest of the world has forgotten. Reality usually is complicated enough and fair enough to humiliate everybody to some degree or another. Science is not a church. Intelligence agencies are not infallible or always good or always bad. Politicians are not priests. Skeptics are not automatically prophets or kooks. The real problem is, you know, I looked at these two stories, I thought, what are we even going for? What can. What principle should we be looking for? We don't know how to separate principles from tribes. So let me try on this one. Forget about Foushee. For a second. Forget about the CIA for a second. Those are both really important. But forget about Republicans versus Democrats. Forget about whether you wore a mask or you refused one. What are the principles here? Because that's where an adult should begin. So here they are. Principle number one. In a free society, the government must never, ever knowingly mislead the public during a crisis. I don't even know if I have

[Glenn Beck]

to say, in a crisis, it should

[Stu Burguiere]

never knowingly mislead people. And in a crisis, because, you know, they'll say, you know, the people might

[Glenn Beck]

panic as a result. What?

[Stu Burguiere]

Even if you think the public can't handle uncertainty, you have to tell the truth. I don't care if you think you're acting for noble reasons. It's not a noble act to lie. Once authorities decide they can shape reality, you know, to give the people for their own good, self government begins to die. And you know what you get? You get a bunch of hapless rubes

[Glenn Beck]

like we have now.

[Stu Burguiere]

They're like, I don't know what's going on. I don't. I don't know. Who did we break away from the American Revolution? Was it Vietnam? Principle number two. Scientific debate must always remain open, especially during emergencies. The moment dissent becomes censorship, science is corrupted. Real science survives questioning. In fact, it depends on it. And we now know, absolutely know, that serious credentialed experts were at times, at best, dismissed. They were throttled online. They were professionally threatened or destroyed only for asking questions that later became mainstream discussions that turned out to be right. That should terrify everybody. Left, right, independent, doesn't matter. Everyone, everyone should look at what happened during COVID and go, geez, that could never happen again. But it's going to. Why?

[Glenn Beck]

Because we're not talking about it. We had a chance to talk about it and then.

[Stu Burguiere]

Missing boxes. Principle number three. Intelligence agencies cannot become domestic narrative managers. And this one really matters. The CIA. Why do they exist? What is their charter? Their charter is to gather foreign intelligence, not shape what Americans are allowed to think.

[Glenn Beck]

The FBI, what do they exist for?

[Stu Burguiere]

To investigate federal crimes, not referee political speech. Once these agencies begin acting like guardians of acceptable reality. The Constitution, it might as well be Alka Seltzer. Throw some water on it, it'll dissolve. History is full of governments that convince themselves we're just protecting democracy as they strangle it to death. Principle number four, Skepticism has to be disciplined. This one's just as important as the other. Just because institutions have lied before does not mean that every rumor is true. A free people cannot Survive on paranoia. We can't survive on not trusting anything. If every missing file becomes proof of a global conspiracy, then reason collapses from the other direction. You cannot build a healthy society on blind trust or no trust. You can't build one on blind suspicion either. Which leaves you sitting in your truck or your kitchen. Go.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't even want to listen anymore. I don't even know how.

[Stu Burguiere]

How do you even find the truth? I don't even know what is the truth. That's the real question. And perhaps the answer is harder than we want it to be, because here's the truth on that one. You're not going to get a movie ending. You're not. I highly. In fact, I would be suspicious if we ever find that single binder that is stamped classified, and you open it up and it's like, oh, my gosh, Fauci killed JFK with MK Ultra. It doesn't work like that. The truth emerges slowly, painfully, through contradictions, through documents that were released years later that should have been released right away, through patterns, through testimony, through comparing incentives, through people who, you know, are willing to revise their own beliefs when new evidence appears. That's the one that really matters the most. Because the one thing that is the real crisis in America is not institutional dishonesty alone. It's the fact that nobody wants to be proven wrong anymore.

[Glenn Beck]

Nobody.

[Stu Burguiere]

Everything is identity now. It's tribe and team, and that's it. If Fauci lied, some people think I have to defend that to the very end because my worldview completely collapses. No, it doesn't. That part of your worldview collapses. And it will feel good when you. The truth shall set you free. If certain Covid skeptics exaggerated or spread nonsense, others are going to feel exactly the same panic. But a mature, adult society, for it to survive, it has to pursue truth over ego. And here's the only way you get to the truth. Truth that matters. Will you apply the truth? Will you. Will you allow the truth to change you if you are wrong? Most people won't. That's why they don't want to hear it. Because that requires humility. It requires us going, I don't know yet. I don't. Well, that evidence really matters. Well, but wait a minute. That source might be wrong. Look, if you're going to make that claim, you've got to prove that. Wow, that contradiction, that deserves some investigation. That agency really failed. That person, that critic. They might be dishonest. We should check into that. That's what adults do. Our founders understood Something, you know, modern America has to relearn and we're relearning it, but it's just going to get harder and harder to relearn it. Human beings get this, it's way out on a limb. Human beings are flawed. All of us. All of us. That's why our founders built a system not based on, on trust in rulers, but on a restraint of power for those rulers. On transparency, on competing interest, on checks and balances, the freedom to question authority without fear. That's the biggest principle underneath all of this. It's not fauci, it's not the CIA, it's not Covid. The principle is this. No institution should become so powerful that questioning it, it becomes dangerous. No citizen should become so tribal that the truth itself no longer matters. I can't believe I'm quoting this in a serious way, but to quote Jack Nicholson, you can't handle the truth.

[Glenn Beck]

And until you learn how to handle it, you're not going to get it more in a minute. You learn a lot about a person by walking through their house. You see the height marks on the wall where they measured their kids growing up. The scratch on the floor from sometime that somebody dragged a Christmas tree stand through the living room. I'm not saying that happened. I didn't. I don't know how that the back patio, 100 barbecues happen back there. The house is never just a house. And that's why buying or selling one is a lot more emotional than people sometimes expect it to be. It's also why the person helping you through that process matters so much. It's why I started realestate agentsitrust.com I wanted to build a network of professionals who understand that they're not just moving property around on a spreadsheet.

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[Glenn Beck]

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We'll show you how you can buy or sell your home even in this tough market. The name says it all. Realestate agentsitrust.com 10seconds Station ID. Let me go to which is cut three, two. No cut two. This is Jamie Raskin. Yesterday trying to grill a 16 year old high school student who is going in and saying look at my school. They were handing out Korans and all kinds of things about Islam. They didn't get permission from the school. There was no notification. Anything else I couldn't have done that with my Republican club, let alone, I couldn't have handed out Bibles and rosary beads or whatever at the school event. I just want, you know, equal justice here. Then Jamie Raskin gets a hold of this 16 year old kid. Listen to this.

[Jamie Raskin]

Is there anybody on the panel who thinks that we need a special law addressing any particular religious population, whether it's the Muslim, the Christian, the Jewish, the Hindu, the Mormon or what have you, or are we just saying that everybody should be held to secular law in America? And I'm happy to open it up to anybody. Mr. Hunter Lopez.

[Hunter Lopez]

Thank you, Congressman for the question. I think that you keep referring to a secular law. I think it's important to point out, I believe it was 56 of the 57 Declaration of Independent signers were Bible believing faith church attending Christians. I believe it was the first original 13 colonies that required a declaration of faith. So I'm not acknowledging that.

[Jamie Raskin]

Well, wait a second now you, you're traversing my territory now. Mr. Hunter Lopez, you brought it up.

[Glenn Beck]

Listen to him. Listen what he's doing. He is now making it about the kid and what he just said. Okay, you could say, okay, well, I disagree with it. But what's your point, sir? And no, now he's picking a fight with this kid.

[Stu Burguiere]

Go ahead.

[Jamie Raskin]

Are you aware that the Constitution of the United States does not establish a religion, it forbids its establishment religion. Are you aware that it doesn't mention God?

[Hunter Lopez]

So the Declaration of Independence mentions God four times. But what I was going to say

[Jamie Raskin]

is the Declaration of Independence law.

[Hunter Lopez]

So Declaration of Independence was declaring our independence from the tyranny of India. But what I was trying to finish that. I'm not, you know, suggesting that we need to go back to taking, you know, tests or saying that you have to acknowledge.

[Jamie Raskin]

Do you know that Thomas Jefferson was denounced as an infidel who wrote the Declaration of Independence?

[Glenn Beck]

Now he comes in, he didn't believe

[Jamie Raskin]

in the establishment of religion and he and Madison were emphatic about separating church and state. That's the whole glory of our constitutional design in our history.

[Glenn Beck]

Stop.

[Stu Burguiere]

Here's what I wanted to do. Here's what I wanted to do.

[Glenn Beck]

What are we arguing about here?

[Stu Burguiere]

If you just join this. What the hell are they even arguing? They are, they are two. Well, one is a 16 year old

[Glenn Beck]

kid who by the way, I think is handling himself brilliantly.

[Stu Burguiere]

16 year old kid in a situation that way beyond his years and a, I don't know, 50 year old dirtbag who is very comfortable in prosecuting and persecuting people. But what are they even talking about? What are they even talking about now? They're arguing about, did you know that Thomas Jefferson was called an infidel? Did you know that? Are you aware that there is no such thing as an establishment of a

[Glenn Beck]

religion in our Constitution?

[Stu Burguiere]

What are you talking about? The whole point of this is fairness. We think that the Christians and the Republicans should be treated exactly the same as everybody else. And that includes the Islamists who are handing out, you know, hey, Sharia law is neat pamphlets. That's what you're talking about. But again, nobody really wants to find the truth. Do you, Jamie? More in a minute. Let me tell you about Lifelock. You wake up one day and you check your bank account and discover that apparently you just purchased a jet ski in Romania. I don't even know we were in Romania. Surprising for a couple of reasons. You don't remember a jet ski and you've never been to Romania. Yet somehow, according to your credit card company, you're currently living a very exciting international life. You're a man, a man of mystery is so mysterious, you didn't even know it. You're floating around in a whole bunch,

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

I want to spend a few minutes just talking about history for a second. Because if you don't know history, you're. You're bound to repeat it. And at least it'll be fun. When you recognize the parallels along, along the way, you're like, wait a minute, I think we've been here before. I picked up a book a couple of days ago, started reading it The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel. It is written by one of my favorite history writers. I think he's absolutely brilliant, Douglas Brunt. And I picked it up and last night I just wanted to read a chapter of it. And I just, I don't know how many chapters I read. It is so riveting. It is the story of not only Emmanuel Nobel, Nobel Prize, he was Russian. He's over in, you know, with the czars and everything else. And he is just wealthy beyond your wildest imagination because he takes what he sees Rockefeller doing with oil and he improves almost everything that he is doing and he becomes one of the wealthiest, wealthiest men in the world. I didn't even. I didn't know anything about that. And then it also tells the story at the same time that this is going on. It follows this peasant kid who was trained to be a priest, was going to go to school to become a priest. He stumbles onto Karl Marx, finds this guy brilliant, and he becomes Stalin. And so now when that whole revolution is happening and Stalin is hanging around and Lenin and everything else, what's going to happen to this oil empire? How is this guy going to get out? Is he going to get out in time? It's a riveting story. Douglas Brunt is the author and he's with us now. Hi. Hi, Doug. How are you?

[Douglas Brunt]

Glenn, it's great to be with you. And as you say, the more things change, the more they stay the same. It's still all about communism and oil, which is exactly the case in the time of Emmanuel Nobel, who pioneered the Russian oil industry, as you say, along the Caspian Sea during the era of the last czars of the Romanovs.

[Glenn Beck]

And that's exactly what's happening right now with Russia and Ukraine. Same thing.

[Douglas Brunt]

Same, same thing. It's all about driving to capture the sources of energy. It's exactly repeating itself.

[Glenn Beck]

So let me ask you, because I didn't know anything about Emmanuel Nobel at all. He invents dynamite, right, and contributes a lot to war. And then he does the Nobel Peace Prize, strangely. But his achievements, I mean, he did a lot. And it's been ignored by most people.

[Stu Burguiere]

What turned you onto this?

[Glenn Beck]

Why did you think this story had to be told?

[Douglas Brunt]

Well, it's fascinating. Alfred Nobel invented dynamite and lived over more in France and Italy and then established the prizes. When his obituary was incorrectly printed in the papers, they the wrong Nobel was reported to have died in the paper. So he wakes up alive and well, read his obituary that calls him a merchant of death for having invented Dynamite. He says, oh, my God, this is not how I want to be remembered. So he establishes the prizes by rewriting his will. But the Russian Nobels were far bigger industrialists. Emmanuel Nobel, the nephew.

[Stu Burguiere]

They're not the same. They're not related.

[Glenn Beck]

They're not the same there.

[Douglas Brunt]

Emmanuel is the nephew of Alfred. So Alfred invested in the petroleum business. But Emmanuel was in southern Russia on the Caspian Sea. And he was also a munitions manufacturer and an engine manufacturer. He actually was the world's leading manufacturer of diesel engines, which is how I stumbled across them, because I'd written a book about Rudolph Diesel and the diesel engine. And Nobel was his business partner and he took all of his engineering expertise and went down to Baku and modern day Azerbaijan, where they were basically just skimming pools of oil. There was no technology down there. He brought technology and as you say, replicated what Rockefeller had already been doing in America and became one of the world's leading oil producers. By the time of the Great War, they were producing more oil even than Standard Oil. They were. They were the biggest oil company in the world, and we don't know the name. It's the craziest story that people don't know because of his collision with Stalin and Lenin and the Bolsheviks. And what Stalin did to Emmanuel Nobel was the inspiration for George Orwell's 1984. That whole book, that whole passage where they say the streets were renamed, the statues torn down, the history rewritten, that's what Stalin did to Emmanuel Nobel. He erased. He turned him into a political unperson and erased him. So we only know about Alfred, who was outside of Russia, but the bigger Nobel story was inside Russia and just completely paved over by the communists.

[Glenn Beck]

So is he known, well known in Russia now?

[Douglas Brunt]

Not really. Not really, because.

[Stu Burguiere]

So is this kind of like a. Is this a. Is this a renewal of him now?

[Glenn Beck]

Is this.

[Stu Burguiere]

Is this like the first shot of

[Glenn Beck]

like really coming and saying, hey, this guy existed and is important?

[Douglas Brunt]

There are little stories out there in Stockholm. There are some Nobel archives that have a lot of what the Russian Nobels were doing in Baku and in Azerbaijan since the fall of communism. They're a little bit leaked out as well in archives there. But it's a largely untold story even now, because right after the revolution, Revolution, the Russian Revolution, when they nationalized all the businesses, they renamed the Nobel Brothers Petroleum Company to be the Soviet Petroleum Company and his manufacturing firm up by St. Petersburg building the engines and munitions. They renamed Rusky Diesel. So they just completely paved over it. And the west largely doesn't know the Nobel story.

[Glenn Beck]

What would Russia be like today if. If that hadn't have happened? I mean, I was shocked by. The guy was unbelievable. The parties that you described that he had were shocking, even in America, 1920s kind of style. But he also seemed like a really decent kind of guy. Not your evil, ugly capitalist. He seemed like he was really a good guy.

[Stu Burguiere]

True.

[Douglas Brunt]

Very, very true. In terms of the labor practices in Russia at that time, particularly, he was a very enlightened kind of employer. He built schools and hospitals and employee housing, infrastructure for leisure pastimes of his employees. While most of the other oil producers in the Baku region, it was a horrible place to work. They were living in really ramshackle living conditions. So when there were uprisings in Russia under the czars, which they were. They nearly migrated into sort of a constitutional monarchy and. And did it peacefully, but there were uprisings like in 1905, the Bloody Sunday in St. Petersburg. Baku also saw revolutionary elements there, and Stalin was, of course, agitating. In southern Russia, Nobel's infrastructure was protected by his employees because he was a good boss. And so while the infrastructure of the Rothschilds, for example, who were the other big oil producer in southern Russia, they suffered enormous amounts of sabotage and fires and. But Nobel didn't, because his employees would say, no, this is a good guy. This is a good boss. He's not one of the capitalist pigs that we need to, you know, take out. And so when he does come into that collision with Stalin and the Ren army during the Russian Civil War, many of his employees, rather than, you know, throw him into some kangaroo court and try to murder him, they're actually protecting him because he was a. He was actually a good capitalist.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm. I'm fascinated. Don't want you to tell me. I'm fascinated. And you start it just so great. You start at just about the end where you're like, is he going to get out? Stalin's coming after him. Is he gonna get out? And don't tell me, but really, really well written, Doug. Really well written. You're a great storyteller, and I'm obviously a fan of.

[Douglas Brunt]

Thank you. And you are my brother in history. You and I just view the world the same way and value history the same way. So I love that you. You have had a chance to pick it up and. And. Oh, yeah, you know, it's great to connect with you about it.

[Stu Burguiere]

I love it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Give me the. Give me the one thing that you hope people take away from it that applies to today.

[Douglas Brunt]

Well, I, you know, it's still about chasing down the oil. There's this letter, for example, that EMMANUEL NOBEL In 1919, just as Balfour, Foreign Minister, the British Foreign Minister Balfour is in Versailles and they're sort of wrapping up the peace terms of World War I. And he's saying, I'm telling you, Stalin and the Red army, they're coming to Baku. They're going to get this oil. And if they don't get here, he writes this in spring of 19, and he writes, if they don't get here By August of 19, the communism is done. They'll choke out for lack of oil. But the British, who currently held Baku, had only about a thousand troops there. And he's saying, you need to reinforce your position or it's over. And no one had World War I just ended. No one had an appetite for it. Churchill is saying the same thing. Send 100,000 troops in there, we can nip communism in the bud. We almost had a 20th century in which Communism never appeared. Not in Russia, not in China, not in Korea, Cuba, Vietnam. Only by the narrowest little window did Stalin get through there. And it was all because he did get to Baku, he did get the oil. Which, by the way, repeats itself throughout the century. World War II, the battle for Stalingrad with Hitler on his way down to Baku to get the oil. The battle for Stalingrad was really the battle for Baku. So it's, it's all, gosh, you know, Doug, it is our times and has been for 100 years.

[Glenn Beck]

I was going to say. It's. It's also what's happening in the Strait of Hormuz. I mean, the President is playing this game, and whether it works or not, I don't know. But he is going for the choke points. He's going for the world's oil. He is trying to. To make sure that nobody else has real control over it. And if it would work, it will change the next hundred years. If it doesn't, it changes the next 100 years. I mean, we're kind of at that point.

[Douglas Brunt]

It's so true, Glenn. You can pick up a newspaper today and it's the story of our times. It first began with Emanuel Nobel in Baku. That was the first instance of it. But ever since it. That is. That's what's driving all of our political and industrial decisions.

[Glenn Beck]

Unbelievable. What a great book. The Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel by Douglas Brunt. You're. You're going to love. If you love history, you're going to love this. It's really, really well written, a great story. Stuff you've never heard before. You know, communist and everything. I mean, really a great story. Lost Empire of Emmanuel Nobel. You will love it. Pick it up now. I'm reading it as we speak. Doug, thanks. Talk again.

[Douglas Brunt]

Glenn, thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

You bet. God bless. All right, Let me tell you about our sponsor. It's the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Most of us will never see the places where, you know, some of the worst suffering in the world is happening right now. We'll never walk through a war zone with, you know, God willing, we'll never stand in the middle of a community that's running out of food and medicine or basic necessities again. God willing, we'll never have to look into the eyes of a child who has no idea whether tomorrow is going to be better than today. But just because we don't see it doesn't mean it's not real. It's happening right now. It's happening all over the world. And it's one of the reasons the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews matters so much. They help provide food and shelter and medical care and emergency assistance some of the most vulnerable people in Israel and Jewish communities all around the world, especially during times of crisis, which it is right now, when people are afraid, they. You just, you can bring comfort and make the world feel less chaotic just by a little human kindness. That idea still matters.

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're in London for, I think, something historically historic. I. I'm not sure how to read this whole thing because I'm not into the politics of England, but I know that they have a real issue, and I hope that they stand up peacefully and address the real issues. You know, having a hard time talking about real issues today because everybody likes to get sidetracked on absolutely anything. I just did an interview with Doug, Doug Brunt. I get some emails from people. How dare you have Doug Brunt on. How dare you? You know who he is?

[Douglas Brunt]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, I can't believe you would have him on.

[Stu Burguiere]

Why?

[Glenn Beck]

Why? Well, his wife is Megan or his husband is. His wife is Megyn Kelly, and he's also a great writer. And we weren't talking about Megan or anything else. Well, you know what Megan believes. No, I actually don't know what Megan believes. I don't know. She's a friend of mine, always been a friend of mine. And I'm not going to get bogged down into the hate everybody because we disagree even either. Even if we disagree vehemently.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm not going to hate them.

[Glenn Beck]

And I'm certainly not going to isolate myself. I mean, you want to have, you want to have zero influence, isolate yourself, call everybody an enemy and isolate yourself. Then you'll be able to change people's minds. What, I mean, what sense does that make? And one last thing on this. What does Doug have to do with the Megan Kelly show? He is one of my favorite history writers.

[Stu Burguiere]

He is a fantastic writer.

[Glenn Beck]

We see history very much the same way. This is a great book. If my wife was, you know, she wrote a great book, would, would you think it would be cool for her to be boxed out by, let's say, let's just reverse it. Megyn Kelly, she. My wife writes a good book. How dare you have Tanya on that's,

[Stu Burguiere]

you know, who's, who's who's who she's married to.

[Glenn Beck]

It's Glenn Beck.

[Stu Burguiere]

What does my wife have to do with me talking about a book? For the love of Pete.

[Glenn Beck]

Anyway, I highly recommend you read the book because I think it's really, really good. If you like history, it's a really good history book. Anyway, it's kind of like that here in England too. It's weird. I don't think anybody can actually talk about the problem. They want to talk about personalities. They don't want to actually talk. Everybody will talk to you about Tommy Robinson. No one will actually talk to you about, hey, how come they're raping children and nobody is saying anything? How come they're not going to jail?

[Stu Burguiere]

How come they can get away with

[Glenn Beck]

things that you would, would never be able to get away with? It's a two tiered justice system. I think that's wrong. Yeah, but you know who Tommy Robinson is? No, not really. I mean I've met him. I know his history. Well, you know, he's been in jail.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. And Donald Trump's a rapist.

[Glenn Beck]

So what do I know?

[Stu Burguiere]

Why don't we focus on the issue?

[Glenn Beck]

Can we stop making about personalities? Let's focus on the issue. Here's one and here's how they, here's how they play it. Here is a tiktoker liberal explaining how

[Stu Burguiere]

Mamdani has now balanced the New York City budget.

[Douglas Brunt]

Why?

[Glenn Beck]

Because there's no logic here. It's just about the team. Listen to this. Cut 4.

[Tiktoker Liberal]

Mayor Momdani just released his executive budget and he just did something that politicians have been telling us for decades was impossible. He inherited a $12 billion deficit. It bigger than anything since the great recession and he closed it to zero. No property tax increases, no cuts to services.

[Douglas Brunt]

I'm proud to announce that our city's

[Glenn Beck]

budget is fully balanced.

[Tiktoker Liberal]

How did he pull off this incredible feat? Well, first he taxed the rich. New York just passed the first piet a tear tax in the entire country. A tax on non residents who own a second home worth more than $5 million in the city. That alone raises $500 million a year. He also reduced a tax credit that overwhelmingly benefits millionaires, raising another 68 million annually. Working people weren't asked to sacrifice while wealthy out of state residents.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

It's not every day you get to go to London and then sit down with a former prime minister to talk about what the hell is happening in your country. Especially on a day where everybody's talking about the current prime minister might be resigning at any time. Liz Truss joins me here in Just a second. First, let me tell you about our sponsor. It's my Patriot Supply. One of the biggest lessons in the last few years taught a lot of people that modern convenience is a very thin layer of glass over it. Just, we, we all kind of assume that the power is just going to stay on, the stores will stay stocked, and then one day they don't. And when that happens, the people who took a little time to prepare are in a whole different position than those who didn't. That's why I've talked about my Patriot Supply for years. They have helped more than 3 million American families be better prepared for whatever happens in your community. Emergency food, water filtration and backup power solutions. And right now they're running a really strong Memorial Day special. When you get the Grid Dr. 3300 solar backup generator, you also get a thousand dollars worth of survival essentials for free, including emergency food, water filtration and so much more. With everything that's going on right now, no telling how long things will be available at my Patriot Supply. So go to preparewithglen.com right now. See everything you get for free right now. Don't wait until it's too late. Get your complete preparedness set up today. Preparewithglen.com that's preparewithglen.com host of the podcast Liz Truss show and former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. Liz, welcome.

[Liz Truss]

Hi. Great to be on.

[Glenn Beck]

Glenn, it's so good to see you again. Last time you were on with me, you said you thought that by 2030 England could be, but you had hope for it could be a failed state. Is it getting better or worse?

[Liz Truss]

It's getting worse. I mean, if you look at the state of our public finances, our debt, the bond markets, we're approaching a financial crisis. If you look at illegal immigration, we have a crisis there. If you look at all the issues that have been brushed under the carpet, the grooming gangs that haven't been dealt with, the crime that we're seeing in our cities and the general decay and stagnation in this country, we are very, very close to the edge.

[Glenn Beck]

So I just got here on Sunday and I'm staying here in downtown London, staying in a nice hotel, you know, doing all nice shopping and seeing all the sights and everything looks wonderful. Looks like it did five years ago when I was here, three years ago. And I on day number two, I'm like, this doesn't match what I'm reading and what I'm seeing when I'm overseas. And I realized, well, because I'm not out in the suburbs and I thought, is that what is happening in the, with the elites, that all of this looks fine, but you go outside, there is no manufacturing anymore, there's no industrial base anymore, Your farmers are screaming for help, you know, job losses, the, the, the problems with, you know, the, the migrants coming in and just completely changing the culture and the, and the cities, the rape gangs and everything else. Is it that the elites. Because media is here, finance is here, government is here, it's all in just a very small area.

[Liz Truss]

We are in a huge bubble here, right in London. And the people that benefit from the system, the government is spending half of our national income. So if you're a bureaucrat, you know, if you're in the media that's also supported by the state like the BBC, if you're in a bank that has been bailed out by the government, you're doing okay. And the waves that are lapping up have not hit you yet. But if you go to a northern town where you've lost the steel plant, you've lost the car plant because of our crazy energy policies, our energy prices are four times what they are in the US or your daughter has been raped by a Pakistani Muslim grooming gang and the police have done nothing about it because they don't want to be seen as racist. If you are somewhere like that, you are very, very angry about what's happened in our country. And just to give you a comparison, Glenn, in the year 2000, the average Brit was about as well off as the average American. We are now, you are now 50% richer in terms of income per capita. And we are poorer than Mississippi. We're poorest.

[Glenn Beck]

That's the poorest state.

[Liz Truss]

We're poorest, the poorest state in America. And we have had stagnation, absolute stagnation for the last decade, decade or so. And it is hitting people really hard. And that is why we had the massive reaction we saw at the local election. So here in London, people are voting for the Labour Party or the Green Party, but in places like Rotherham and Doncaster, they've all gone to reform because they are so angry with what's happening in our country. So you can look at the map to see where the rich areas are that are doing okay and benefiting from the status quo and everyone else who has been hugely let down.

[Stu Burguiere]

So I know in every other country

[Glenn Beck]

100 years ago what that would mean if you had a crown on your head. But you can't ignore the average person. That is the backbone of your country and expect it to last. I mean, what is the plan from.

[Liz Truss]

But this is literally what Keir Starmer's been doing. He's had his hands over his ears. He's blamed all of the country's problems on the far right. He has said that that is the issue, that we're not close enough to the eu, even though they're stagnant as well. And he said the problem is President Trump. He said the problem is Liz Truss. The problem is Brexit. He's blamed anybody apart from the terrible policies, which is what has brought our country to its knees, which are things like our terrible energy policies, our terrible immigration policies, our terrible public spending policies. That's why we are in a terrible mess, a really terrible mess.

[Glenn Beck]

And you're in a worse mess in one way, because you don't have the First Amendment, which people think. Freedom of speech or freedom of religion. No, it's. Those are two out of the five. Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom

[Stu Burguiere]

to petition, freedom to assemble, freedom to

[Glenn Beck]

go to your government and say, wait a minute, stop it. You don't have any of that.

[Liz Truss]

And so we used to have it, of course, with the bill of rights, 1689, but successive governments have legislated to take away our freedom of speech and to introduce things like hate crime laws. And these have been.

[Glenn Beck]

But this isn't hate crime. That is happening on Saturday. I'm speaking at a rally. I don't know everybody that is speaking. I'm not involved in European or, you know, UK politics, but to be able to stand up and challenge your government

[Stu Burguiere]

saying, hey, we just want equal access

[Glenn Beck]

to the law and equal punishment across the board for whoever you are. And now your Prime Minister is. Is banning people from coming into the city and into the country to say those words as if it's like something crazy to say.

[Liz Truss]

Correct. But if you say the wrong thing in Britain, according to Keir Starmer, you get put in jail. So we had Lucy Conley, who was jailed for a tweet, and she was jailed for 31 months. And what he's also doing is banning people he doesn't agree with from entering the country, including elected members of the European Parliament. This is an attempt to suppress debate and suppress speech. And, yes, because we don't have a First Amendment in Britain, it makes it easier for the government to do it. They've used legislation that's been passed over the last 30 years to prosecute people. But even in America, there were attempts to suppress speech. If you look at what Biden did with the tech industry, trying to, to take people off things like Twitter. There's the same tendency of the left across the world. It's in the Democrat Party in America, it's in the eu, it's in the Labour Party here in Britain to not deal with the problems, but to stop people talking about it. We are living in some kind of weird version of East Germany, but that is how bad it is. People are banned from coming into the country, people are jailed for saying things,

[Glenn Beck]

but yet you have.

[Stu Burguiere]

Have people in boats just washing up

[Glenn Beck]

on shore and nobody's even saying anything.

[Liz Truss]

Some people have suggested these speakers for tomorrow sort of just jumped in a boat and then they'd be absolutely fine. And, and you know, the, there's such a two tier nature of the way all this is being dealt with. So there's also a rally happening tomorrow in the Palestinian course. And whereas they are using things like facial recognition for the Unite the Kingdom rally, they're not using that on the pro Palestinian protestors. So you are seeing a totally different approach to.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I saw that. I saw what the police said. They're going to be 4,000 policemen, facial recognition drones and everything else. And I thought, I'm not entirely sure that's for the safety of the people attending the rally as much as it is the safety, I guess, of Keir Starmer and, you know, having an enemies list. Are you insinuating that that is kind of what's happening?

[Liz Truss]

Well, what I'm saying is there seems to be a very different approach being taken to these two different sorts of rally. And we've seen in Britain, for example, the Chief Constable of the West Midlands had to retire because he was found fabricating evidence at the behest of the local Islamists. See, what we have seen is infiltration into our police of a particular ideology and infiltration into other parts of the bureaucracy. This is a very serious issue. And Keir Starmer is part of that ideology. He wants to appease the Islamists. This is one of the reasons he didn't back President Trump in the Iran war. He is desperately worried that they are losing voters to the Green Party, who are even more nutty and even, even more communist than the Labour Party. And this is what's resulted. You know, our justice system, which was all about everybody should be treated equally before the law, is now being undermined, completely undermined.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, you have a, I guess a media outlet here called Five Pillars, which is a Islamist outlet. And they have come out and said, by the way, Tommy, you should know all of the speakers that were canceled, we're the ones that got the government to do it. I mean, that's an incredible statement.

[Liz Truss]

It is incredible and it is shocking what has happened. And you would have thought that the Home Office would have thought twice before banning an elected member of the European Parliament, a sister, you know, an ally, a Britain, a Polish mep. But the problem is the ideologues have got hold of the agenda. And one of the other deep problems that Britain has is the bureaucracy and the judiciary have been given more and more power and they're making more and more decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if that decision hadn't even gone to ministers. I wouldn't be surprised if that decision wasn't made by an unelected bureaucrat.

[Glenn Beck]

Up. Unbelievable. And it's. What's so scary is we'd be right there with you if it hadn't been for Donald Trump. We'd be right there with you. We all, you know, you see what's happening in Canada. The world has gone. The Western world has gone insane. And I can't figure out what their end goal is, other than some sort of one world kind of government where, I don't know, they're just where everybody is in a cave.

[Liz Truss]

Their end goal is destroying the West. It's destroying the west from within. These are Islamic communists. If you look at Mandami or you

[Stu Burguiere]

look at Zach Polanski and Brooklyn, that ends like Iran.

[Glenn Beck]

That's what happened in Iran in 1979. The Marxist and the Islamists got together, and I got news for you. The Islamists kill the Marxist in the end, you know, jail them or kill them. So I don't know how they're thinking they're going to win in the end,

[Liz Truss]

but what they are about, about is destructionism. They're about destroying the things they hate. What do they hate? They hate patriotism, they hate the family, they hate enterprise and business. These are the things they are trying to destroy. It's true that they're sowing the seeds of their own destruction because ultimately the Islamists will get them. But that's not what they're thinking. They're focused on. We want a wealth tax, we want rent controls, we want transgender rights, we want men to be able to go into women's bathrooms. That's what they're focused on, because they want to destroy the very things that have made our countries great. And they've been trying to do this and they've been successful for decades. When I'm talking about our institutions in Britain, Those institutions have been infiltrated over a number of years, and we've now reached the tipping point where those people feel emboldened to say the things out loud in public that they were saying behind closed doors before. So we have the governor of the bank of England talking about getting closer to the eu, talking about net zero, making essentially political points. And this is what we're seeing with the police, it's what we're seeing with the Home Office. We're seeing people who are meant to be independent, who are meant to be bureaucrats being political. And none of them are political on the right. None of them.

[Glenn Beck]

So let me, let me take a quick break and then come back and ask you because, I mean, I have my concerns that Donald Trump can get deep enough into the institutions to root that out. You have legitimately a shadow government. I mean, you literally have a shadow government government. And, I mean, I don't know how you turn this around. So I want to ask you, how does the West, Europe and England turn this around? Especially if Donald Trump loses the Senate and the House, which I don't think hopefully will happen now. But if you don't have a J.D. vance, if you go back to a Kamala Harris, this stuff is going to come pouring back in the United States and then it's just fuel on the fire. So how does it work out? We'll go there here in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about American financing. Summer used to mean a couple of cookouts, road trip, maybe, you know, taking the kids somewhere for a few days. And now it feels like every time you, you know, walk out the front door, it costs $300 and you're pretty much tapped out before you really even get started. Gas prices, vacation, summer camps, tuition payments, groceries, it just, just keep stacking up and up and up and up. And a lot of people are unfortunately taking a credit card and that credit card that keeps going up and up and up. That's why I want to talk to you about American Financing. American Financing help homeowners look for ways to use your home equity to consolidate high interest debt into one manageable monthly payment, which could mean some real breathing room. The average person that works with American Financing in this audience saves about 800 every month. No pressure, no upfront fees, just a real look at, you know, real problems with real people. On average, you're going to save almost a thousand bucks. That would be able to give you some breathing room. You might even delay a couple of mortgage payments. And there are no upfront fees to find out if you qualify. So call them now. It's 800-9062-4408-0090-6240 or go to American Financing, NMLS 182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for rates in the five starts at 6.799% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms.

[Stu Burguiere]

10 seconds.

[Glenn Beck]

Station ID.

[Stu Burguiere]

So how do you save it?

[Liz Truss]

Well, we need a Trump Star revolution in Britain. That's what we need. But we need it to last. And that's what you've been saying about President Trump. You need to win in the midterms, you need to win in 2028.

[Glenn Beck]

I think he told me before he won this last time, he said, Glenn, we need 12 years to stomp this out. We need 12 solid years of the same policies and we can stomp it out. Anything less, it won't work.

[Liz Truss]

That's. I think that's true. But if you look how long the left have been working on this, they've been working since the 60s. They started in the universities, they infiltrated teaching unions. They will be working on this. And they're like cockroaches. They're very, very hard to take out. And they are very, very dedicated to pursuing their cause, which is ultimately, ultimately Marxism. That's what they're dedicated to. So I don't think this is. I think that we can change things within a decade, but I don't think we won the battle forever. And even if you manage to change the government, you still got the culture in society. And the fact is, the culture now in Britain, the elite culture venerates transgender ideology over the family. It venerates supporting illegal migrants over British patriots. That's the problem. The whole value system has been changed by the left. So, yes, we have to take over the deep state. We have to completely change the way we run the government. We have to get new politicians in. But it's a bigger battle than that for me. It's a battle about what we actually see as right and wrong in our countries.

[Glenn Beck]

Right, right, right. But you, you're all so polite. You're all so very polite. And you have this. I mean, not sure it's what the

[Liz Truss]

Americans said in 1776.

[Glenn Beck]

I know, but you, you, you have this way of making people from the Carolinas look rude and, and that's hard to do. We have, we're open, We're. We say what we mean, mean what we say. We're not afraid to protest everything else. Do the Brits have it in them to stand up and be loud and like, no, this is, this is what we want.

[Liz Truss]

I do believe we have it in us. And if you look at our history, we have successfully reasserted ourselves at various points in history. And the Brits are known for being quiet for quite a long time and then getting to boiling point.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Liz Truss]

And we are getting close to boiling point in this country. This is why there was a frustration expressed in the recent elections, is why people voted for Brexit. People are desperate for change. I think, though, that America has very strong political movements like the Tea Party movement, the MAGA movement, and we need more of that in Britain. It's why I'm establishing CPAC in Britain this summer is to try and bring people together so they're not just thinking their only job is to vote. They actually have to mobilize and put pressure on institutions and politicians and change the debate. Because we are still in such a left wing media bubble in this country that.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my gosh. Relentless.

[Liz Truss]

But it is not a reflection of what the average person thinks. But people are afraid to say what they think because they think they're the only one or they even think they might be arrested. So we need more of that movement, which is something that exists between the individual voters and the political space. We need more people actually active in that. And I think that's what America has done. And you have organizations like the NRA and you have the Maha people, you know, those kind of political movements who really force change. We need that as well.

[Glenn Beck]

We're with Liz Truss. Where do you mind staying a few more minutes? Okay. Because I want to talk to you about what's happening in China today with the President. A lot of people are upset because he's being nice to the President of China, which I think is good strategy myself. But I'd love to hear your thoughts on that and this big rally that is happening on Saturday. All this and more coming up. If you've. If you ever notice that when you were a kid, going to bed felt like punishment. Now it's like, please punish me. Please send me to bed. Except it is also punishment at the same time. The older you get, it's like, oh, you got to be kidding me. I can't sleep now. You're lying there, you're thinking, I got to get to sleep. You're counting the hours and you're just up and up and up and up. Here's what you need to do. I want you to go and I want you to try Z Factor. Z Factor is a sleep support substance supplement from the makers of Relief Factor. It's designed to help you fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer and wake up feeling refreshed. Because I mean, a good night's sleep stops, you know, stops you from being normal. You can't function. And it is something that is critical. So a good night's rest. Get it with Z Factor. Z Factor, give it a try. Right now you can save 46% off your first order. Just 19.95 for a 30 day supply. Call 800 for relief. That's 800, the number four relief or visit relieffactor.com better sleep, better days with Z factor from relieffactor.com 800 the number four relief.

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

Thrilled to have Liz Truss with us. She's the former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. She also hosts her own show now called the Liz Truss Show. It's a podcast you can hear here. I'm thrilled that you would be here with us. Thank you for joining us.

[Liz Truss]

Good to be here.

[Glenn Beck]

I want to ask you a couple of things. First of all, insiders asked, several of them asked, what do you think Margaret Thatcher would think about England today?

[Liz Truss]

Oh, she'd be horrified, horrified, horrified by what's happened. And she did a lot to restore the British economy. It's now being completely trashed. Blair basically spent all the money. The Conservatives didn't reverse that. We are now on the verge of a debt crisis. If you remember, she was brought in to solve the debt Crisis in the 70s and we're now back to where we were in 1979 when she got into office. But she'd also be horrified by what's happened on immigration, by the way, that we have given all these powers on human rights to these unelected international bodies.

[Glenn Beck]

I've been waiting for, I've been waiting for maybe a couple of people to show up because that there was, there were three of them at that time. It was Thatcher, Reagan and Pope John Paul. And those three just took communism apart and together they were invincible. We got Trump. We're about to lose him, but we got Trump. Where are the rest? Who is on the horizon that you see? And you go that person, not necessarily just for America, but in Europe, who has the skill to be able to stand the heat?

[Liz Truss]

It's, it's hard to say at the moment whether the new sort of generation We've got are going to be up to it because no one's really been tested is the answer. You know, in Britain there's obviously Kemi Badenoch, there's Nigel Farage. Are they tough enough to take on what is an even deeper state than Mrs. Thatcher faced?

[Glenn Beck]

Oh yeah.

[Liz Truss]

So she did not face the unaccountable bank of England that was created by Blair. She didn't face this empowered judiciary. Blair created a fake Supreme Court. She didn't face all this. So it's even worse now. And the bureaucrats have become radicalized. You know, they're transgender activists, they're environmental activists. See, dealing with that is huge. And it's a bit like the difference between Reagan and Trump. You know, Trump is anti system and this is what we need in Britain. We need an anti system leader who's going to take down the elites who've been running our country into the ground.

[Glenn Beck]

That is quite a.

[Liz Truss]

And you are seeing, I mean Malay is a good example or Bukele is a good example. These are anti system leaders and that is what we need in Britain. We need it in France. You know, who knows, it could be Jordan Bardella in France could be that anti system leader. But it is. The European elites are even more entrenched than the American elite. So this is no easy task. And as I was saying, you also need a movement of people. And this is one of the things, I think Thatcher didn't have that she had support within the party but it wasn't mainstreamed into the British consciousness.

[Glenn Beck]

Correct.

[Liz Truss]

Things like supply side economics. Whereas I think in America people understood it more.

[Glenn Beck]

Reagan was a movement.

[Liz Truss]

Yeah. And you know, you had people like Laffer and you had those people that carried on flying the flag and we didn't have that in Britain. As soon as labor got in, it's like, let's just close the door and all that. We've got the money now we can go back to being socialists. In fact, we can introduce more and more progressive ideology into our state. And that's what's happened.

[Glenn Beck]

Tell me about.

[Liz Truss]

There was never as big a movement in Britain, unfortunately.

[Glenn Beck]

Tell me about Canada because I am freaking out about Canada. Canada is, I mean, I look at it, I'm like, it's lost. I don't know how they recover. Canada went from this kind, polite little to a death cult with their, with their medicine and their health care. Carney is, I mean he is Mr. Wef. Now you have, you know, you know, you have. What is it Alberta that is thinking about, you know, breaking away. That would be. I mean, what happens to Canada?

[Liz Truss]

It is. It's a terrible. And one good thing about Keir Starmer being so unpopular is that the assisted dying bill has been dropped, which would have allowed people to be killed on the site. So that's been dropped. So we're not going down the bridge. Root of the appalling legalized suicide policies that they have, they have in Canada. I was in Vancouver last week. Massive problem with homelessness, massive problem with drug addiction. When you see what's going on in the cities, it is atrocious, and it's a result of Justin Trudeau's progressive ideology. And Mark Carney has just floated in there after ruining things in Britain. A lot of the problems we have are due to quantitative easing that made it very unaffordable for young people to get on the housing ladder. It was Carney who did all those policies in Britain that we are now suffering from. He then goes over to Canada to ruin their economy and ruin that. I mean, it's. But it's terrible. But it is the World Economic Forum ethos that we're seeing, this green ideology, this high tax ideology, this DEI ideology, and they spread it around the world. And one of the things I think the right needs to do more is to have that international, you know, movement that is prepared to take these people on because we're all fighting the same battle.

[Glenn Beck]

Amen. I think. I mean, that's why I'm here with Tommy. I don't get into your politics. I don't know your politics. I don't. I just.

[Liz Truss]

Maybe you need to, Glenn.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, right.

[Stu Burguiere]

I just.

[Glenn Beck]

I just want the people of England to know that America hears them. We see you because I know how alone we felt. We see you, we hear you. And once we stop arguing about, oh, it's Keir Starmer's fault. No, it's Donald Trump's fault. Look at the real. Can we talk about the actual problems? They're having us play all these little games with the media and everything else, and we're not actually addressing any of their problems. And once the people stop arguing, it's Donald Trump, they'll start going, wait a minute, wait a minute. What's actually happening here? And they'll see the sorry state that we're in, and people in the entire Western world will realize, wait a minute. It's actually the people versus the elites. That's what's happening. The elites have taken control of everything. And when the people all over the west start. Start to unite, that's when Real change comes. I mean, global change.

[Liz Truss]

I agree. And you can see shows like yours, Glenn. The alternative media is a big part of taking on and linking between America and the US People now consume a lot of American content. People in Europe are looking at what's happening in Britain. So I think that is building. But we are facing just such powerful governmental organizations. We're facing the Soros Network, which pumps billions of pounds.

[Glenn Beck]

Tell me about it.

[Liz Truss]

Into NGOs. Astro, the green Party, which is our Islamic Communist Party, were incredibly well funded during these elections because they have access to that ngo. NGO network. I wonder how much this is what we have to take on.

[Glenn Beck]

I wonder how much American money is actually, actually going to some of those NGOs as well.

[Liz Truss]

A lot of it was going through USAID. I know Tony Blair was getting money from USAID.

[Glenn Beck]

That's crazy. When people in America really wake up to the corruption that has been going on. I think these people are in real trouble because you're taking money away from kids, people who actually need help. You're taking my hard earned dollars, you know, your hard earned dollars. And you're doing what with it and using it against the things that we believe in. I mean, I think they're in absolutely.

[Liz Truss]

But now trouble now the British government aid scheme is backfilling a lot of the money that Donald Trump has cut from usaid. So now the European Union and the British government are pouring money schemes because we got so much. Exactly.

[Glenn Beck]

So much of it.

[Liz Truss]

But what, we're poor than Mississippi and yet we're pouring money into rejected USAID schemes. That is how nuts it is.

[Glenn Beck]

Tell me what you hope you see coming out of China with President.

[Liz Truss]

Well, I want to see China held to account. Held to account for the way they have subverted the global trade system. You know, I'm a big supporter of putting tariffs on China. I want to see stronger controls on technology. So we are not losing the technological battle. I think I'm talking about the west overall. Yeah, that's what I want to see. I see China as the biggest threat to the world. I see it's the biggest threat to the West. And of course, they're working hand in hand with the Islamists. They're working and they're backing countries like Iran. So what needs to happen is they need to be contained. And this is what the west should be working on together. The problem is we've got too many fifth columnists in the west who are busy taking money from China, investment from China. And the British government has been infiltrated by Chinese spies. Every week.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, our local governments in California,

[Liz Truss]

every week, we hear about a new Chinese spy that has been unveiled. So that's what I hope President Trump is going to achieve. But you have to be careful, because, of course, you know, they are an incredibly powerful country. They're a nuclear power. It's not easy, but ultimately they have to be defeated.

[Glenn Beck]

Are you speaking on Saturday at this rally? No, you're not? What do you hope comes out of this? What are your expectations and how do you feel about all of it?

[Liz Truss]

I mean, what I feel is that the British public is incredibly angry about the state of our country. And the problem is we have an elite who's had their hands over their ears for a very long time. See, what I want is for people to wake up and to put pressure on, to really change things, and that we don't just need to question Keir Starmer, who's, no doubt, you know, a terrible kind of lefty human lawyer.

[Glenn Beck]

He'll be replaced by someone.

[Liz Truss]

He is just one, like, tiny symptom of this whole problem. You know, we have a whole system, from the BBC to our education system to our bureaucracy in Whitehall that is fundamentally not acting in the interests of our country, and that's how serious it is.

[Glenn Beck]

I saw the BBC the other day and they said, these elections here, America may not know what's going on, but the local elections happen and it is an earthquake. Would you agree with that?

[Liz Truss]

It was an earthquake. But what tends to happen with earthquakes in Britain? And this was the same when Elon Musk focused on the issue of the rape gangs. Is the media then just focus on something else?

[Glenn Beck]

I was just saying there's nothing. This is.

[Stu Burguiere]

Is.

[Glenn Beck]

This is.

[Liz Truss]

They say. They say it's an earthquake, and then two weeks later, they've moved on to some esoteric issue or they blame somebody on the right or whatever. So this is what the media do. So what we need is a population that are watching and engaging with alternative media, who are on X, who are finding their own information about what's happening, who are putting pressure on the political parties. We need. We need to weaken the grip that these people have. That's the issue. And too many people in Britain have just got along with it. And that's true of entrepreneurs and business leaders. They've gone along with this stuff. They don't want to be unpopular, they don't want to go to partisan events. Well, they're going to have to get over that. Just like Elon Musk got over that.

[Glenn Beck]

There's a Few people in history that have really been turning points in history. I think Elon Musk is one. I don't think we would be where we are today if Elon Musk wasn't around to buy Twitter. I don't know if the world would be where it is today.

[Stu Burguiere]

Would you agree with that?

[Liz Truss]

I agree. He's been a hugely radicalizing force here in Britain. I think Covid was a radicalizing force when people saw what the government was prepared to do.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Liz Truss]

To their liberties. So you've had these radicalizing forces. But. But those, you know, the people need to keep on it and they can't. Too many people just understandably want to get on with their lives, you know, not worry about what's going on. But they've got to wake up to what's happening in our country.

[Glenn Beck]

I think they are. I think they're waking up all over Europe and England, Great Britain and the United States. I think they're waking up. They're even waking up in Canada, which I was glad to see to some degree. Liz, thank you so much. Patriot Mobile. Some companies sell, you know, a signal. That's it. Patriot Mobile gives voice. In a world where you are paying for everything and you are hoping that people are on your side, you should know they're not on your side a lot of the time. Times. What do you support? You know, where is your time and your money? Well, put it with Patriot Mobile because you're going to get that signal, but you're also going to get a voice with it. It's time for patriots to stand up and say enough is enough. And that's why Patriot Mobile built something different, a wireless company that stands for the same values that you do. Faith, family, freedom, all of those things and gives you the same great service for that you get from a mobile phone company you expect to get. You're not going to sacrifice anything. Same nationwide coverage, same reliable service, same fast data. Just a company that represents you and you will have a voice. The money that you work so hard stays in the hands of people that believe the same kind of things that you do. Okay. Patriotmobile.com Beck patriotmobile.com Beck go there now. Use the promo code. Beck. You get a free month of service. Patriotmobile.com Beck or 972 Patriot.

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Too many people have forgotten that we're not enemies. We're Americans. Glenn Beck returns in a moment.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me show you the past, the present and the future. Let's start with the past. Here's Trump to the president of China. Earlier Today. Cut six.

[Donald Trump (clip)]

You and I have known each other now for a long time. In fact, the longest relationship of our two countries that any president and president has had. And that's, to me, an honor. We've had a fantastic relationship. We've gotten along. When there were difficulties, we worked it out. I would call you and you would call me. And whenever we had a problem, people don't know whenever we had a problem, we worked that out very quickly. And we're going to have a fantastic future together. Such respect for China, the job you've done. You're a great leader. I say it to everybody. You're a great leader. Sometimes people don't like me saying it, but I say it anyway because it's true.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. So what is he saying there? Why would the president say that if you missed that? Well, you grab the podcast today and make sure you listen wherever you get your podcast or glenn beck.com torch I want to show you the. The future. And that is Mom, Donnie. How he zeroed New York's budget. Yeah, that's on tomorrow's show. You don't want to miss a second. From London, England, one last day tomorrow and then back home. May God save the Republic. See you tomorrow.

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