Something WEIRD Is Going On with America’s Gold Supply … | Guests: Alan Dershowitz & Ross Douthat | 2/13/25

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program | Episode: Something WEIRD Is Going On with America’s Gold Supply

Date Released: February 13, 2025
Guests: Alan Dershowitz & Ross Douthat
Host: Blaze Podcast Network - Glenn Beck

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1. Corruption in Government and Recent Convictions

[04:25] Glenn Beck:
Glenn Beck opens the episode by discussing the recent conviction of Michael Madigan, the ex-Illinois House Speaker, on ten federal corruption charges. He emphasizes how this trial exposed the deep-seated greed and corruption within the Democratic ranks in Illinois.

"I mean, you hear me? And you're like, oh, I understand why he's in the hall of fame. I get it. That's just, that's just how low the standards are in this country."
— Glenn Beck [04:25]

Stu Burguiere adds that similar racketeering charges have been filed against numerous Trump officials over the past four years, highlighting a broader trend of legal challenges within Washington D.C.

"They've been filing them against every Trump official for the past four years."
— Stu Burguiere [06:00]

2. Pentagon Corruption and Government Spending

[06:03] Glenn Beck:
Beck shifts focus to the Pentagon, asserting that it is rife with corruption and waste. He criticizes the longstanding issues of mismanagement and the elusive trillion-dollar waste fund.

"We're gonna find so much corruption there and so many missing funds. Where did I put that trillion dollars?"
— Glenn Beck [06:03]

He also touches upon the controversial firing of board members from the Kennedy Center by President Trump, questioning the necessity of a national theater and advocating for privatization.

"Why do we have a national theater like that? What are we, Russia?"
— Glenn Beck [08:24]

3. Government Funding of the Arts

[10:09] Glenn Beck & Stu Burguiere:
A substantial segment is dedicated to the debate over government involvement in the arts. Beck argues against federal funding of artistic endeavors, asserting that the government should focus solely on defense and essential services.

"The bottom line is we shouldn't be involved in the arts at all as a government. That is not a, that is not the correct scope of the federal government to be involved in."
— Glenn Beck [12:57]

Stu Burguiere concurs, emphasizing that while art is valuable, it should be sustained by the private market rather than government grants.

"A lot of musicians are stuck in this situation... But I'm not going to pay for your passion on doing something that nobody wants to consume at this time."
— Stu Burguiere [14:48]

4. Economic Concerns: GDP, Gold Supply, and Trump's Policies

[24:34] Glenn Beck:
Beck delves into economic issues, specifically the manipulation of the gold supply and its implications for the U.S. dollar. He references a tweet by Matt Smith regarding unprecedented gold purchases in the U.S., suggesting it may signal preparations for a gold audit.

"The government right now claims on its balance sheet as an asset all of this gold and it's valued at $45 an ounce. In case you haven't heard, it's $2,900 an ounce."
— Glenn Beck [24:34]

He theorizes that increasing the official price of gold could stabilize the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio, indicating a strategic reshoring of assets to strengthen the nation's financial standing.

"This helps strengthen the United States because we're coming to a place where we're not going to be able to finance the debt."
— Glenn Beck [36:34]

Stu Burguiere adds insights into rehypothecation, explaining how assets like gold are being claimed by multiple entities, leading to potential financial instability.

"That's a scam. That's what's happened here. They have sold a hundred percent of your house, or in this case, the gold, to several different people."
— Stu Burguiere [37:29]

5. The Epstein Client List and Alan Dershowitz's Involvement

[50:01] Alan Dershowitz Interview Begins:
Glenn Beck invites Alan Dershowitz to discuss the impending release of Jeffrey Epstein's client list. Dershowitz vehemently denies any wrongdoing, emphasizing his professional relationship with Epstein and insisting on his innocence.

"I was the only person who stayed completely clean. I never did anything inappropriate. The only woman who accused me is now admitted that she may have confused me with somebody else."
— Alan Dershowitz [50:01]

Dershowitz advocates for radical transparency, arguing that all evidence should be made public to ensure justice and prevent witch hunts.

"There shouldn't be anything withheld. All should come out. Everything."
— Alan Dershowitz [55:50]

Beck echoes these sentiments, stressing the importance of openness to avoid manipulation and blackmail.

"We're finding that having some things held in secret, not everything out, it just provides the opportunity for blackmail and everything else."
— Glenn Beck [61:09]

6. Epstein's Client List and Associated Personalities

[42:35] Glenn Beck:
Beck elaborates on the extensive list of high-profile individuals connected to Epstein, including Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, David Copperfield, and others. He speculates on the implications of their associations and the potential for future scandals.

"Kevin Spacey... Stephen Hawking, Al Gore, Richard Branson... These circles are built around big celebrities, athletes, and high-powered executives."
— Glenn Beck [60:20]

Stu Burguiere questions the credibility of such associations, suggesting that many listed names might be unrelated to any wrongdoing.

"Should we be thinking Heidi Klum was having sex with underage girls? No, I think unlikely."
— Stu Burguiere [73:21]

Beck warns of the dangers of partial disclosures and selective information releases, which can tarnish reputations without substantial evidence.

"If you want to engage in witch hunts, you can't do it selectively. It has to be all or nothing."
— Glenn Beck [61:09]

7. Faith, Religion, and Science with Ross Douthat

[89:35] Glenn Beck:
Beck welcomes Ross Douthat to discuss his book "Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious." The conversation centers on the compatibility of faith and reason, challenging the notion that embracing religion requires abandoning scientific inquiry.

"It's easier to live with faith than to live without it."
— Glenn Beck [89:35]

Douthat argues that the universe's fine-tuned parameters and the enigmatic nature of consciousness suggest a divine architect. He counters the secular narrative by highlighting the improbability of life existing purely by chance and the interdependence of mind and matter as revealed by quantum physics.

"The universe seems designed with us in mind. Our minds seem designed to understand the universe."
— Ross Douthat [90:11]

Beck resonates with these ideas, reflecting on Thomas Jefferson's assertion that reason must guide religion, not fear or blind faith.

"If there is a God, he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear."
— Glenn Beck [92:48]

8. Anthony Fauci, COVID-19 Research, and Lab Leaks

[110:00] Glenn Beck:
Beck transitions to a critical examination of Dr. Anthony Fauci's role in COVID-19 research, alleging misconduct and unethical gain-of-function experiments. He references Richard Ebright's work to argue that Fauci has orchestrated cover-ups and facilitated dangerous biological research.

"There's something big in the wind and nobody knows what it is for sure. So if, what do you do as a regular person? You need to understand that the dollar could be by design being collapsed."
— Glenn Beck [99:40]

Stu Burguiere engages in a heated discussion, questioning the justifiability and safety of gain-of-function research, ultimately agreeing that while theoretical benefits exist, practical execution is fraught with risks.

"You can't do this. There's too many leaks. People are imperfect."
— Stu Burguiere [121:37]

Beck underscores the dangers of multiple labs handling hazardous pathogens, advocating for stringent security measures to prevent accidental or intentional releases.

"The more of these labs we have around the world, the more likely it is we wipe ourselves out."
— Glenn Beck [118:27]

9. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Content

[123:04] Glenn Beck:
As the episode draws to a close, Beck teases upcoming content, including a documentary titled "COVID Up Smoking Gun," which he claims exposes the dark underbelly of Fauci's research. He encourages listeners to watch and stay informed about the evolving situation.

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Key Takeaways:

• Government Corruption: Highlighted through the conviction of Michael Madigan and ongoing legal actions against Trump officials.
• Pentagon Waste: Beck criticizes mismanagement and advocates for privatization of certain government entities like the Kennedy Center.
• Economic Strategies: Discussions on the gold supply's manipulation and its potential impact on the U.S. economy and dollar stability.
• Epstein Scandal: In-depth conversation with Alan Dershowitz about his ties to Epstein, emphasizing transparency to prevent unjust witch hunts.
• Faith and Reason: Ross Douthat's insights on the harmony between religious belief and scientific understanding, advocating for a reasoned approach to faith.
• COVID-19 Research Critique: Critical analysis of Anthony Fauci's role in gain-of-function research and the dangers of lab leaks.

Notable Quotes:

• "We're gonna find so much corruption there and so many missing funds."
  — Glenn Beck [06:03]

• "A lot of musicians are stuck in this situation... But I'm not going to pay for your passion on doing something that nobody wants to consume at this time."
  — Stu Burguiere [14:48]

• "If there is a God, he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear."
  — Glenn Beck [92:48]

• "The more of these labs we have around the world, the more likely it is we wipe ourselves out."
  — Glenn Beck [118:27]

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Disclaimer: This summary is intended to provide an overview of the podcast episode and does not capture every detail or discussion point. For a complete understanding, listening to the full episode is recommended.

Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Alan Dershowitz]

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

Just element elevating my love right now.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, wow. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. That's great. Let's see. There's a couple of things that have been going on. The ex Illinois House speaker has been convicted on 10 corruption charges at trial that exposed the greed in Illinois from the Democrats, Michael Maggot. Maggot. Maggot. Mad Diggin Madigan. Beautiful. I know. I mean seriously, you hear, you hear me? And you're like, oh, I understand why he's in the hall of fame. I get it. That's just, that's just how low the standards are in this country.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Me, the long serving Illinois House speaker, he was convicted on Wednesday on 10 federal charges after running an influence peddling trial that exposed corruption and greed. He was, he stood there as the jury rendered a mixed verdict, which include deadlocking on overarching racketeering conspiracy. You know that, you know I told you yesterday, the number one thing five times higher than any other place, the Google search in Washington D.C. number one is legal defense attorney, criminal attorney. Okay. The next one is what is rico? What are the. What, what does one have to do to be charged in a RICO case? What's racketeering?

[Glenn Beck]

They've been filing them against every Trump official for the past four years.

[Stu Burguiere]

I know. So a lot of people in Washington D.C. are freaking out. They're just freaking out. And they should, they should in, in every category. They should. This makes me really happy and it makes me happy too that we're taking on the Pentagon. You want to see where the real corruption is? The real waste is Pentagon. Stop. Number one, ground floor Pentagon. We're gonna find so much corruption there and so many missing funds. Where did I put that trillion dollars? It has been going this way for a very long time. Ever since I was a kid, I heard about 700 toilet seats. You know, back when 700 toilet seats were crazy. Am I right? Oh my gosh. Uh, Tulsi Gabbard was confirmed yesterday. Um, she is the 14th member of Donald Trump's cabinet to be confirmed. She is now the director of national intelligence. If you don't know what the DNI is, the DNI is the. The one stop that was created after 9, 11, because, remember, the FBI had intelligence. Everybody had an intelligence agency. There's 18 of them, and none of them were talking to each other. And so the DNI was created to oversee all of them, to make sure that all of the information is being shared. So this is really even more critical than the CIA chief, because the CIA chief is in charge of the CIA, but the Director of National Intelligence is the. The watchdog agency over all of them. So Tulsi Gabbard is going in, and she's going to tear that thing absolutely apart. Yesterday, Doge canceled another 58 federal contracts. I'm trying to see how much they saved us yesterday. Well, just check the US Debt clock to see Trump kicked everybody off of the. The Kennedy center board. Do you know who's on the board of Directors of the Kennedy Center? Just think. Competence. Just think who's the most competent person in the last administration? And I know that's a tough.

[Glenn Beck]

Corrine Jean Pierre.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

Are you kidding me?

[Stu Burguiere]

She was on the board at the Kennedy Center.

[Glenn Beck]

No way.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes. Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

She can't even.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, I know. Read. I know.

[Glenn Beck]

And she was on the board of the Kennedy Center.

[Stu Burguiere]

Board of the Kennedy Center. So he fired all of them because the Kennedy center is way in the red. And quite honestly, I would really like it if the. If the President would just put the Kennedy center up for sale. That should be private. Why do we have. Why do we have a national theater like that? What are we, Russia? Why do we have that?

[Glenn Beck]

Amen. I love this idea.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. I performed at the Kennedy Center. Remember that?

[Glenn Beck]

And just that in and of itself means we should demolish the place.

[Stu Burguiere]

So anyway, but when I was. When I was at the Kennedy center, remember, they told us that was the first time the US Flag was ever displayed on stage? Do you remember that?

[Glenn Beck]

That's healthy. That's healthy. That's really.

[Stu Burguiere]

For a national theater, that's really good. It's just out of control. And so people like art, Glenn.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't necessarily like it, frankly. Yes, you do. I think a lot of it sucks.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes, you do. You do like art, I guess.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, certain types of art.

[Stu Burguiere]

You are a fan of the really, really sporty Cadillac.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, that's art. Well, well, yeah, that kind of art, sure, but that's art.

[Stu Burguiere]

You have a designer that is looking to make it as appealing to the eye as possible.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, you're right. Okay, there are. I'M There are examples of art. What I'm talking about though is, you know, theater, opera, musicals, you know, in.

[Stu Burguiere]

That general vicinity that, that's, you know, three avenues of art. Everything should be looked at as art. Believe it or not, what we do here is an art. I mean, it's like, you know, I want to be in the circus. Well, shovel the elephant crap. You're in the circus, welcome to it. Yes, but I'm in the circus. You know, what we do here is our everything. The guy who laid my floors when we were remodeling our house, this guy was an artist.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, yes. It's a little too broad to say I don't like art, I grant you this point. But like when it comes to, you know, this type of art that goes on at the Kennedy center, not necessarily my favorite type. I'm not all that interested in it. But you know what?

[Stu Burguiere]

A lot I'm not interested in anything that comes out of the Kennedy Center.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, including what you were, you were one of the things that came out of the candidates.

[Stu Burguiere]

I know, I was barely interested. I was like, there's a show I wouldn't pay to see.

[Glenn Beck]

But like people do enjoy it. Yeah, right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And you see all over, you know, Dallas has a big theater, you know, district and it's been. Don't millions of dollars in private donations have gone to these places.

[Stu Burguiere]

And that's the way it should be.

[Glenn Beck]

And that is the way it should be. Government, if it has to spend on things other than, let's say the common defense, which is what it should be spending on. But if it has to, if it's going to spend on something, maybe you could find something that is culturally important. That won't happen unless the government spends on it. Right. These things won't exist unless the government spends.

[Stu Burguiere]

Give me an example.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know, I don't have one. Yeah, okay, but like at least you should target that. You know what people painting, you know what people do when they're like on a Friday night and they want to go, they go paint. That people buy paintings cuz they want them in their house. There is a private market for painters. It might not be as large as you want it to be. It might not be. Well, why people are spending more money on Dave and Busters than these paintings. So the government needs to take over and fund all of these painters and opera singers and all that. No, they don't. The bottom line is we shouldn't be involved in the arts at all as a government. That is not A. That is not the correct scope of the federal government to be involved in.

[Stu Burguiere]

Would you include art classes in schools?

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, I don't, of course I. Before private education.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't like the government schools idea at all. Right, I know that, but you know, I mean, you want to.

[Stu Burguiere]

I mean, even locally your tax dollars are going to school. Is, is art a part of the.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, education is similar in a similar fashion that other subjects are. I think it's part of a well rounded education.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm with you. I don't think that the government should not be involved in any of this stuff. Yeah, but any of it.

[Glenn Beck]

Once you become an adult, if you want to do this for your job, you need to provide a service that somebody likes. Right. I'm sorry, I know this is asking.

[Stu Burguiere]

A lot, but this is what it used to be, right? I mean, I know I'm an old timey kind of, you know. Let me talk to you about country time lemonade here. But when I was grow. When I was growing up, my grandparents, my dad, my mom, not so much my grandparents, but my mom and dad were very supportive of me wanting to go into radio. My grandfather thought I was out of my mind. You're not. What do you do? What does not. That's not a job. It actually is, grandpa, if you're really good at it. But all of them said the same thing to me or you. I, I gotta tell you, I just, I, I love, I love you so much. It seems it'll be hard to fire you today. But anyway, so they, they all said to me the same thing. You have to have a backup because it rarely works. Right? Rarely works. I would have never thought the government should support me. Did you hear the, the, the girl who is on food stamps and everything else and is driving a 2025 or sorry, 2024 BMW and she's like a 20 something. And when somebody reported that she had a brand new BMW, she went online and said, I can't believe you. What? In America you can't have a nice car? No, not if we're supporting you. Right?

[Glenn Beck]

There's not with a nice car. There's nothing wrong with being an opera singer.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

But that doesn't mean we pay for it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes, yes.

[Glenn Beck]

There might only be a market for 12 total opera singers in the world. I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think it's that high.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know. It could be less.

[Stu Burguiere]

And I think if you're in Vienna.

[Glenn Beck]

There might be a big market for it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. And there might be A case for that country to say, you know what? We were built on this kind of, you know, art. We should fund the. That's up to Vienna, but not for us.

[Glenn Beck]

Like.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. Like, especially since there's so few people that like the opera.

[Glenn Beck]

Right. It might just be, Glenn, that if you want to be an opera singer, your lot in life is you go and have a normal job and then sing opera on the side.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

A lot of people do that with painting. They do that with. Musicians, do this all the time. Lots of musicians are stuck in this situation, by the way. You know what else a lot of people do? Podcasting. A lot of people can't do podcasting and actually earn money, but they do it anyway because they enjoy it or they want to try to make money. They want to try to grow it into something. That doesn't mean the government should step in and say, well, there's this. This person who has 14 people streaming their podcast. We have to give them money because of quote, art, end quote. No, no. Do something of value to other people. And if you can't come up with that, sorry. Not our role. Not my job as a taxpayer to fund your opera.

[Stu Burguiere]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

If you want to come up with a single legged, transgender nun opera, go for it. It's on you. Yeah, maybe people will show up, but I'm not paying for it, by the way, particularly in other countries, which was what we were actually doing.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. And I'm also. I'm also not interested in, you know, second amendment stuff. I'm absolutely for. You need. Wait, you need a government grant to make guns? You're the wrong guy to make guns.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, people like them. People like guns. They buy them all the time.

[Stu Burguiere]

They buy them all the time.

[Glenn Beck]

It's a good business for a lot of people.

[Stu Burguiere]

Nope. So, no, I don't want them involved in anything. I absolutely love. And I love art. I love art. You do. Look at how you're good at it.

[Glenn Beck]

But would you want a government grant to be funding your paintings?

[Stu Burguiere]

Wait, can I get some of my tax dollars back?

[Glenn Beck]

You have to ask the guy in the question marks. Right?

[Stu Burguiere]

How do I get. No, I don't. I don't. I mean, you're living and sponging off of other people. You know, part of the deal is with art and artists don't like this, but that's the deal. I want to do something else. You know, I want to. I want to paint my way. Okay, well, paint your way. Who knows? It might be big, it might not be, but all of the masters except for, you know, you know, Rembrandt and, and Michelangelo and Leonardo. Most of the artists were starving. Oh, so you want starving art? No, I don't want it. I just. If that's what you are really compelled to do and you want to do something different, then do it. Do it. But I'm not going to pay for your. Your passion on doing something that nobody wants to consume at this time. People are going to pay. Well, not you, but somebody an awful lot of money for your paintings if you happen to be one of those guys that was just ahead of their time. He said guys. He didn't even include women. Oh, I've just gotten started. Hang on. Let me tell you about Jace. Medical travel can be successful or stressful enough as it is having a situation where a family member and you had this, did you not Stu. You're on vacation and somebody starts to get sick and you don't have the medication and you're like, oh crap. And you gotta find a doctor. You have to have them call something into the pharmacy. Then you have to go searching for an open pharmacy, usually at night. It's a really. These things. Why do crisis only really happen in the middle of the night with your kids? Get the Jace Go for all of your travels. It's from the maker of the J case. It's compact, it's reliable.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Stu Burguiere]

There is a great thread from Matt Smith that I retweeted last night and it's about the, the dollar and our economy and everyone needs to read this. What the average person is going to be talking about is my groceries are going up, up. And yes, they are. That's not anything from this administration. That is from all of the lies that the media was telling you that things were strong and it's getting better and yada yada. No, it's not. Those numbers and all of that stuff were garbage and it's not getting better yet. And Donald Trump is cutting, cutting, cutting. But we also need to cut regulations. We need to get business back on its feet. These two things have to happen in a coordinated fashion. Otherwise you're going to, you're going to gut the spending is. Remember most of our gdp, a lot of our GDP is coming from the government. They're spending all of this money. You're not spending money. They're spending money that's keeping the government's gdp. So if you cut, our GDP goes down, which means all kinds of numbers start to fluctuate from interest rates and everything else. So we Want a growing gdp, which means we have to grow real wealth, we have to grow real business, not NGOs. And the one guy that I think can do it is Donald Trump. But there's a tweet that I that caught my eye yesterday because it starts with gold and I've been following the comics. There's something going on with gold and nobody really knows what it is. Somebody here in the United States is buying a crapload of gold. We think, I hope it's the treasury or the central bank, the Fed, but somebody is taking huge physical deliveries and it's causing shortages in London where they're, you know, there's, they buy and sell gold. There's shortages now of gold because somebody is buying it and shipping it here. Somebody with very deep pockets. Okay, so why now? This is all theory. That's fact. Here's the theory of what's going on. They're preparing for a full on gold audit. We talked about this yesterday. The government right now claims on its balance sheet as an asset all of this gold and it's valued at $45 an ounce, in case you haven't heard, it's $2,900 an ounce. So they're talking now about boosting the price of gold, at least market to market, but maybe even making it $5,000 an ounce. Okay? If that happens, the balance sheet starts to fall into line and our debt to GDP is not as bad as it really is right now. Okay? Just Start claiming the truth about gold and our balance sheet starts to come into line. Start taking our minerals, start taking our oil and claiming those as assets and putting those on the balance sheet, which we can do. And it's not a bad idea unless you know, we lose in the end because then we lose all of our assets, our natural assets. You put those on the balance sheet. This helps strengthen the United States because we're coming to a place where we're not going to be able to finance the debt. Who wants to write the United States a new long term loan at less than really market value? And market value, I mean, you know, if you walked into a bank and you had the credit report that the United States of America has, what do you think the bank is going to charge you in interest? You're a risk. You just are addicted to spending. You're doing ridiculous things. I'm sorry. Now they might write you a check if you have all of this stuff on your balance sheet. Okay? And that's why they're doing it. They're trying to reshore up our balance sheet, make ourselves healthier than we are because we're at the end of the dollar, we're at the end of this financial system. So this is an end game. It's why tariffs are being, you know, brought in. It's a, it's to, to force others to start to see the sorry situation they're in. I mean Europe, if this deal with Ukraine goes through, which by the way yesterday had a great, a perfect phone call with Putin and it did go really, really well and Donald Trump is saying, yeah, you know, we might have to have the resources from you. We might, we want your rare earth minerals because of what we've already given you. We want that in exchange. He's doing that as a negotiating tactic with everybody and he's putting on notice the European Union. We're not in this anymore. This is your problem. We leave. We're not rebuilding Ukraine. You have to do it and you're going to have to protect it and we're not going to guarantee its, its protection. So if you want it protected, you do it. They're talking $3 trillion to be able to rebuild and protect Europe can't handle that. But you know what, Europe, neither can we. So he's putting everybody in the same situation. And this is going to cause inflation to rise. It's going to, it will punish the average person because of terrorists and everything else if they're not done exactly right. It'll punish with higher prices. However, he's betting that wages will also rise because he's forcing people to keep their profits here and make jobs here. If everything goes right. What the, the trade on gold is showing us is that we may be going towards a gold backed financial system or a gold back currency of some sort. The Fed could even be shut down. There is, there is something big in the wind and nobody knows what it is for sure. So if, what do you do as a regular person? You need to understand that the dollar could be by design being collapsed. That's exactly what the Biden administration was doing, collapsing the dollar. But they didn't have a plan to replace it other than a digital dollar and you know, global slavery. I not sure what the plan is here, but it seems much more American centric. Good for America and eventually good for the rest of the world. And it doesn't look like it is taking freedom away from people, but we have to watch it. The situation with the economy is really dire. That hasn't gone away. What we have is a, one of the best mechanics who have hired the, the Rest of the best mechanics to come in, put up the hood and say, we want to save this engine. How do we do it? And they're applying that. We don't know what direction, but a. A huge sign that something big is coming is the amount of gold that is being purchased. And the key here that you have to understand shortages in London. Gold flowing into the US at record levels. Somebody with deep pockets. This is what Matt Smith is scooping up gold. They're reshoring gold that might have been leased out. What does that mean? That the United States is buying all this gold. Why? Because they're reshoring the gold that might have been leased out. That's rehypothecation. That's just the word away from the word that I said, if you see rehypothecation begin to be bantered around, look out what rehypothecation is. We've taken one asset and we've. We've counted it on several different accounting books. So we counted at the United States, but also we've. We've leased this gold out to Germany so Germany could get more money based on their gold. But their gold is our gold and our gold is England's gold. So that's how dire this is, is we're beginning to enter the world of rehypothecation, which means no one owns anything because your house, you say, well, I got my loan through Citibank, but Citibank has. Rehypothes, has used rehypothecation to put that on their balance sheet, as that's their house. But they sold it in a package to eight different banks. And they're all counting that house, yours as an asset. So when they all start to go down, they all say, well, we've got all these assets. Well, no, you don't. Which one of you has the 100%? You're all claiming 100% of, you know, Bob Smith's house. Which one actually has it? Well, they all do. This is. This is such a Ponzi scheme where. You know what this is? This is a story of the producers. You ever see the movie or the stage show? Mel Brooks, the Producers? What. Why did they get into trouble? Because they were selling over a hundred percent of the play. They kept selling the play. You get 100%. You get 100%. You get 100 percent. All thinking that it's not that that particular show wouldn't make any money, it won't be a success. It's the worst play ever. So it will close and nobody's going to audit and say, wait a minute, you sold 100%? Nobody's going to ask. They just want to get away from it. They lost their money. It closed. But if it's a success, they now have to pay 100% of the proceeds to 14 different people. It's a scam. That's what's happened here. They have sold a hundred percent of your house, or in this case, the gold, to several different people. When everybody says, I'm in trouble, I want my money back, I need my gold. Trouble, trouble.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, it just seems like the type of thing that it's almost impossible to unwind. Right. If it's that deep, how do you unwind it? Or you just protect yourself and your family for you.

[Stu Burguiere]

You make sure that if your house is paid for, if you have anything paid for, you have the title. You know where the title is, you have the title. Okay? So you're not in as bad of shape. If you own things, you own your car. Good. Have the title. You own your house, good. Have the title. It's really good. If you're buying a house to make sure that that loan is staying local, that they're not reselling that loan, that it's staying with one bank and it's not. It's not being sold in, you know, what were those called? Credit default swaps.

[Glenn Beck]

I remember those things.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that it's not being sold like that because that's what causes the problem. And. And so you just need assets. You need real assets. If you can buy gold, you should buy gold. Especially if they are going to start counting that on the balance sheet. If they change the price of gold to from $45 to $4,500, that means they're going to have to do that worldwide. So gold all of a sudden becomes $4,500 an ounce. Okay. As your dollar goes down, your gold will go through the roof.

[Glenn Beck]

This is much better. When Margot Robbie is telling me about it in a bathtub. That is the delivery system.

[Stu Burguiere]

I could run the water.

[Glenn Beck]

No, I don't. No, please don't. Please don't. Oh, my gosh. Sarah just threw up on the board stations. We may have some technical difficulties.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Last night's Wednesday. Wednesday night special on Blaze tv. I was with Patrick bet David in his studio in Miami. Got a reaction to my prediction. The Epstein client list is going to be exposed potentially very soon. And by the way, I have Alan Dershowitz on. What do you think Alan Dershowitz is going to say about the release of the Epstein client list? What do you think he's going to say?

[Glenn Beck]

It's interesting. He's been sort of lumped into that and was later vindicated. Yeah. I mean, yeah, she dropped the charges.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. It wasn't you.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, maybe it wasn't Alan Dershowitz. Oops. After five years of saying it was.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

But I would also think, and I get. I'm sure he. If there is someone who actually did stuff with Jeffrey Epstein, I'm sure he'd want that exposed. On the other hand, you know, just releasing a large list of names of people who are going to be tied into and accused of pedophilia. Has to hit them in a weird way. Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. But what are the odds? So what are the odds that he says, let's be careful, and what are the odds of him saying, I want everything out. Lay it all out on the table. All of it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And he has talked about that before. So that's it. I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's gonna be interesting.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Down the road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Becky program. We are possibly days away from the Epstein client list being released. Cash Patel is going to have to be confirmed, but that is in the hands of the director of the FBI. If he's confirmed, I believe Cash is going to release that thing right away. And we talked to Anna Luna Paulina yesterday. Anna Polina Luna.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, one of those.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, one of those.

[Glenn Beck]

In some order.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, we talked to her yesterday and she said that's not what this commission in congress is supposed to do. That's up to whoever has the information to release them. We're just as a committee here to investigate and make sure that everything has been released. Now should we be concerned concerned at all on a witch hunt? Because I don't know what the client list means. Does that mean the people that were going to the island and you know, having services, you know, on the island? I don't know if So I want every single name released or is this just A black book. And your name could be in there because you had business dealings with Jeffrey Epstein. Might have been that you were gaining services, but it might have been that you were just, you know, you were the guy who, you know, washed the plane. I don't know, because I don't want to witch hunt. We can't. We can't engage in witch hunts. But I want everybody involved in anything illegal to go to jail. I thought the person to answer this, because he's been part. He was. They had a witch hunt on him. On this case is Alan Dershowitz. How does he feel about the information that is about to be released? Is he saying hold off? Or is he saying, no, release it all? Helen Dershowitz with us next. First, let me tell you about Legacy Box. Capturing memories is kind of an ironic thing these days. You gotta have hundreds or even thousands of pictures on your phone. But how often do you sit down and really look through them? They're just there. Whereas if you're anything like me, you'll sit down and look through old pictures. You know, back in a time when we didn't take so many. And you could do that for hours. They're just there too. But they won't always be if they're in that box. That's why you need to have Legacy Box help you out. Legacy Box is the simple and safe way to digitize your treasured videotapes, your film reels and photos. They've helped a million families do just that. Everything is done by hand here in the United States by a team of over 200 trained technicians. You just send in the legacy box filled with old VHS tapes or camcorder tapes or pictures, and you'll get them back the originals and you'll get a thumb drive on a cloud or whatever you choose to have the digital sent back to you. Don't let your childhood fade away on the old take tapes. It's time to digitize and future proof those priceless moments. Fast forward into the digital age with Legacy box. Go to legacybox.com records today and unlock 50% off your order. Legacybox.com records. Do it now. We have Mr. Alan Dershowitz on with us. Welcome, Alan. How are you?

[Alan Dershowitz]

I'm great. I can't wait for the entire list to produced. I want everything out there. I want every videotape, I want every photograph. Because they will prove that I had nothing to do with anything. Indeed, the woman who accused me is now admitted publicly, withdrawn her lawsuit. Admitted publicly that she may have confused me with somebody else. Misidentified me. I wanted to show that, yes, I was on the island once with my wife and my 10 year old daughter when Jeffrey Epstein, who was, I was his lawyer, had just bought the island and he wanted to show me the island. There was nobody on the island except for me, Epstein, his workers, and a professor at Harvard named Michael Porter and his wife. We had an intellectual dinner, left the next day. And so if my name is just on the list. Oh, somebody who was on the island. No, I want everything out there. I want to explain. Yes, I was on the island and yes, I was on his airplane. I flew down on his airplane in order to represent him in front of the court and in front of the district attorney in Palm Beach County. I was his lawyer. And as his lawyer, of course, I was in his home. I never saw a young person, I never saw a naked or semi naked person. I never saw anything inappropriate. I never did anything inappropriate. And the only woman who accused me has now admitted that she may have confused me with someone else, misidentified me and caused me over a million dollars in legal fees, expense and all kinds of difficulties. So I want everything out there. I want every word, every videotape, every tape, every black book, everything. I want the world to see everything so they can make a judgment. But what we shouldn't see is selective disclosures. Oh, here's an address book that has so and so's name in it. Bill Clinton's name is in it. I'll never forget a situation. I was having dinner. This is an interesting story. I was having dinner at the home of Caroline Kennedy, the daughter of the President. And the other guest at the dinner was Bill Clinton, and he was President of the United States. And my wife was there. And the Secret Service man comes over to the President and gives him the phone, says, somebody wants to talk to you. Clinton walks away for about 15 minutes and then he comes back and says, alan, somebody wants to talk to you. And so I was curious, who the heck was President Clinton talking to for 15 minutes? He hands the phone to me, it's Jeffrey Epstein. And I said, Mr. Epstein, what's up? He said, well, I need your legal list and this and that. And I had this legal issue and that legal issue. We talked for a couple of minutes, made an appointment, and that was the end of the discussion. But you know, he's had conversations, obviously in business dealings with Bill Gates, he's had business dealings with Fidel Castro. He went down to Cuba and met with Fidel Castro to try to help him on economic issues, he met with presidents and governors and senators, and let's have it all out there. Let people explain it. I spent, what, five years explaining my situation. And, you know, obviously the world now knows that I was completely, totally, categorically, falsely accused by a woman I never met, never heard of, and never saw, and was never in the same place with in my entire life.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay?

[Alan Dershowitz]

So let's not jump to conclusions.

[Stu Burguiere]

All right, so what does it mean? Do you think his client list. What does that mean? Do you think.

[Alan Dershowitz]

I don't know that there is such thing. I've never seen such a thing as a client list. Nobody claims that anybody paid for anything, so I don't know what a client list would mean. I think there is a. I know I've seen an address book, and the address book, you know, has everybody in the world's name in it. You know, princes and kings and economic moguls and you name it. So there's that book. There are also appointment books, and there are plane logs. And for example, I'm on the plane logs, but always with other lawyers and never with anybody young. I've never been on a plane with him with anybody young or anybody suspicious. So I would love to see the plain logs all out there. I'd love to see the address book out there. I want to see what kind of company I'm in, whoever. Which other lawyers. You know, he was represented by some of the biggest law firms in the country. Kirk Lindellis and some of the others. And the names of the lawyers, of course, are going to be on lists. But one shouldn't confuse. There is, as far as I know, I wish there were a list that said list of people who had sex under Jeffrey Epstein's auspices. I would love to see that list because, of course, I wouldn't be on it. And, you know, Jeffrey once said to me, alan, you have the happiest and best marriage of anybody. Of all my friends, Epstein was against marriage. He said, you're the only person I've seen have a good marriage. So, you know, there's no way he would ever have suggested in a trillion years I had sex with no human being other than my wife. From the day I met Jeffrey Epstein, I've sworn that under oath. I proved it by my calendar references. Nonetheless, I get every day, I get emails, I get websites accusing me of being a pedophile. I have a lawsuit now against some anti Israel person because the anti Israel group has gotten together and they all say, oh, Dershowitz, how can you trust Dershowitz he was on Epstein's list. So they're still using the fact that I was Epstein's lawyer as a way of trying to diminish my reputation as a pro Israel advocate. That's why it's important that everything be out there. And everybody in the world know that I never had any contact with anybody that was sexual or improper in the years that I knew Jeffrey Epstein.

[Stu Burguiere]

I am pleased to hear you say this because a guilty man would not say, release everything.

[Alan Dershowitz]

I said, by the way, the day I was falsely accused. It's now 11 years ago that day I said, release everything. Show everything. I will produce all my memo books. I have the memo books going back from the time I started teaching at Harvard. And I will claim no privileges. I will not claim any privileges. You can ask me any question. You can ask me about anything that happened. I'm an open book. And you can do the same with my wife and my children. And of course, my wife was interviewed and she and everybody else confirmed everything. I have records, American Express records, purchase records proving that I couldn't have been in any of the places that people claimed I was in and inappropriate situation. I was never in those places at all, and certainly never during a period of time when anything improper could have taken place. So the more that's out there, the better for an innocent person.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay, so the thing that is surprising to me is you did go through five years of hell of people. You had to. You had to prove you're innocent.

[Alan Dershowitz]

10 years.

[Stu Burguiere]

10 years.

[Alan Dershowitz]

How do you prove your innocence?

[Stu Burguiere]

Exactly right. So that's you.

[Alan Dershowitz]

And, yeah, but I did, I was able to just. Fortunately, I keep very careful records.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Alan Dershowitz]

I'm a lawyer. I have to account for every hour, but I have careful records of every hour which could prove. And not only that they're all backed up by American Express, they're all backed up by travel records.

[Stu Burguiere]

But this is, this is what I wanted to talk to you about. Not you, but the possibility of witch hunts for other people that might be in your category. Look, I did business with him, et cetera, et cetera. But I. Because everybody's going to claim that. Everybody's going to say, oh, no, I know, I was down there and I. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Some innocent people might be scooped up into this. If it is his address book. How do you, how do we stop saying to everybody, well, you're going to have to prove your innocence.

[Alan Dershowitz]

I think in America, we have freedom of speech and we have transparency. You let it all hang out and let the public judge, based on the totality of the evidence, the one thing that couldn't happen, that shouldn't happen, and that did happen in this case. The judge in this case said, I'm letting this out, but I'm not letting that out. And the judge withheld information that would have proved innocence. And that's what I'm afraid is happening in this case. There are going to be people who are going to say, we want this to be out because it shows suspicious conduct, but we're not going to let this out because it deals with, for example, the credibility of the accusers. And we're not going to let that out because we don't want anybody to attack the credibility of accusers, God forbid, even if there's a false accusation. So the great fear is partial release. It's like free speech. The worst thing is have free speech for me, but not for thee. And only some people get to have free speech. And here you have only some information that could be that raise questions about people should be released, but the information that proves the innocence is going to be withheld. That's the problem.

[Stu Burguiere]

Do you know for a fact there were tapes?

[Alan Dershowitz]

I hope so. I was told there were tapes. There were definitely some tapes. The question is what the tapes were of. We know it's a matter of record that there was somebody who worked for him who stole things. And so the police in Palm beach installed tapes to try to catch the robber. Now, whether they installed them in bedrooms as well as in living areas, I don't know the answer to that question. I hope there were tapes of every single second. And let's remember, among who were accused, and not only was I falsely accused, but the former majority leader, the Senate, Mitchell, he was accused of having sex. And by the way, they were all accused of having unprotected sex with somebody who allegedly had sex with hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people. Imagine any reasonable person having unprotected sex. So it was Mitchell, it was. Senator Richardson was accused. The Prime Minister of Israel, Ehud Barak was accused.

[Stu Burguiere]

Prince Andrew, David Copperfield, Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Gore, Richard Branson, Stephen Hawking, which that one, I believe, Michael Jackson.

[Alan Dershowitz]

I mean, they had a story of me and this man in a wheelchair together attending an orgy. I mean, I just imagine the idea of me trying to jump over the wheelchair to get at some young. You know, some of it is the most bizarre, preposterous thing. And, you know, some of the allegations themselves, you know, prove questions about the credibility. But the important point is all should come out. Everything. There shouldn't be anything withheld. Right now, the courts are withholding certain of the incident information because they don't want information out there that could cast doubts on the credibility of the accusers. And that's just not fair. Yeah, if you're going to accuse, you have to have everything out there. You can't have it selective.

[Stu Burguiere]

I have to tell you, I am for radical transparency. I'm concerned about witch hunts, but I am for radical transparency. Because these names held in secret and having some things held in secret, not everything out, it just provides the opportunity for blackmail and everything else. It's too much information for any one agency or any government or anybody to hold and have over the heads of people. Because when you don't know what's in there and you don't know, you know, there might be exonerating things for you in this information, but they can hold it back. That's. That's really, really dangerous.

[Alan Dershowitz]

Terrible. Look, I was subject to blackmail as a result of all this. I was canceled as a speaker at the 92nd Street Y, canceled as a speaker at Temple Emanuel in New York, the largest reform temple in the United States. Cancelled all over the country as a speaker. Cancelled basically by the New York Times, just as a result of an accusation which has now been the legally withdrawn. And the woman admitted that, you know, she may have confused me with somebody else, but just as the result of the accusation. That's why I wrote a book called Guilt by Accusation. Now, I don't stand by everything in the book because a lot of things have changed since that book was published seven or eight years ago. But again, who would publish a book laying it all out if they had anything to hide? I have nothing to hide about my sex life. And, you know, you talk about perfect attendance. Use the word perfect in terms of attendance, you would say I had perfect attendance. I've had a perfect sex life in the sense that since the day I met Jeffrey Epstein, I never, ever, ever violated any vows or did anything improper. And anybody who knows me knows that. And yet half the world believes that I was guilty of the charges, even though they've been. Essentially, the woman admitted she may have confused me with somebody else.

[Stu Burguiere]

Alan. I know I'm gonna. I'm gonna get heat from some members of this audience for having you on, because I do every time. Because they're like, they're convinced, and I'm like, well, you know what? A court wasn't convinced. She took her. Her accusations back, and he's been straight up I think with all of us. And I don't think that there's, you.

[Alan Dershowitz]

Know, what else happened. People don't forget this.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Alan Dershowitz]

Four or five days after I was accused, I wrote an op ed for the Wall Street Journal inviting, inviting the FBI to investigate me.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Alan Dershowitz]

Saying I will have no privileges. I will answer every question. I will produce every document. Have you ever heard of a guilty person asking for an investigation?

[Stu Burguiere]

No.

[Alan Dershowitz]

By the FBI. And I was upset the FBI didn't investigate me because if they did, obviously they would have concluded as. Now, I think any reasonable person concluded that I was either either the victim of a false identification, the woman admitted, she may have confused me with somebody else, or a deliberate plot. I've been subject to blackmail. I've said to every blackmailer, produce it. Of course, I'm not paying you a nickel. I never paid a nickel to any and I never pay a nickel to anybody who falsely accused me. That's the wrong tactic to take always.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

But I'm concerned a little bit listening to him because obviously he, he kept, keeps all these records he's got. Not everybody does that.

[Stu Burguiere]

No. Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Like, you know, who knows who's going to be lumped into this thing. That being said, the crimes are so horrific that the people who are guilty really do need to figure out who they are and they need to be punished.

[Stu Burguiere]

You should see. Have you seen the list? I mean, I have just partial list that has come out and like everybody's on it. Right.

[Glenn Beck]

And what does that mean?

[Stu Burguiere]

I don't know. I don't know. More in a minute. This is Glenn Beck. Yesterday, last night I was in San Antonio speaking for a women's, a Woman's Haven, which is a, an organization down in San Antonio that's really working hard to fight against abortion. And you know, the greatest thing about the way we're fighting this now, it's not about standing in front of an abortion clinic. It's about buying the property next to an abortion clinic and offering the same thing for free, except for the abortions. And the amazing thing is, is when you actually listen to women and you, and you ask them what, why do you want to have this abortion? Well, because I already have two kids and I can't get a third and carry them around, you know, to go to the store and everything else. Would a double baby stroller fix that? Yes. That's honestly what. But one woman said if I could have a double because I can't carry all three of them, I wouldn't have this abortion. It's crazy. Dial pound 250, say the keyword baby and be part of this amazing operation with Preborn. Preborn.com Beck Preborn.com Beck Sponsored by Preborn.

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[Stu Burguiere]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. So last Wednesday, the first batch of court files that included the names of victims and friends and associates of Jeffrey Epson was released. And boy, oh boy, is it a list. And it doesn't mean that these are people that, you know, were having sex with underage kids, but they were part of the investigation. One way or the other. Prince, Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump. Which Donald Trump was friends with Epstein or was, you know, his business friend, I guess, for a while. But cut that off when? In the early 2000s. Right? I think 2008.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't remember the date, but it was before anything was public.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. And he cut that off because Epstein was harassing one of the women that was working with Donald Trump. I think at Mar A Lago, Hillary Clinton's on the list. David Copperfield, Alan Dershowitz, Leonardo DiCaprio, Al Gore, Richard Branson, Stephen Hawking. A who? Barack, Michael Jackson, Kevin Spacey. Now, here's another one. Kevin Spacey. I don't think he's. I think he's a dirt bag, but we don't.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Didn't he win all of his cases?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, he hasn't been convicted of anything, and I think he won all of his legal challenges, I believe, or at least they were thrown out. So I know he's been trying to kind of make a comeback relatively recently. I don't know how that's going, but it's a tough road, and that's the issue here. Not everybody keeps the records of Alan Dershowitz. Not everybody, frankly. The crimes are so egregious that whatever. You have to look into this. But I do think that there will be people who wind up getting. Because, look, look, we all know this, Scully. We know how this works. When you have a lot of money, like Jeffrey Epstein did, and you go and you throw it around and you get a couple of powerful friends, you wind up then getting access to all sorts of things. A lot of people who are in these circles say, oh, well, I just saw him at a party with this guy that I know who's really rich and powerful, and therefore, I guess he's okay. And, look, a lot of that stuff happens, I think after it's. It's really, to me, strange. And there's a lot of people on the list who fit this description. Once he was, like, convicted of this and went to, quote, unquote, jail, which wasn't really a jail for him. It was kind of like more like an office he had to show up to every day. But, like, once this all came out about what he was doing, anybody who's after that is like, well, what are you getting involved with this guy? Then? At that point, it should be darn clear who this guy was at the beginning that was, you know, it's a George guy.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's what. Yeah, he was saying like, hey, Bill. Hey, you might want to Stay away from him. And apparently that's one of the things that broke them up is Bill Gates was like, no.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

We've got important business. We do.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And there's frankly even another layer of this which very well might be because, you know, you go back to the early days of him. Epstein was known as like a playboy with, I don't know, of age women.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Like, and so there are plenty of rich, powerful people who want to hang out with of age, attractive women and have ridiculous parties with them and don't qualify for the later stage stuff that Epstein was into.

[Stu Burguiere]

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. RFK Jr's on this list. Right. And we know. I mean, he's an admitted dirtbat.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes. He wrote about it in his diary and he. He has had as bad a record with women as anyone, you know.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, but women. Not as far as we know. As far as we know. Not girls.

[Glenn Beck]

Women. Right. There's no reason, I have no reason to believe that he has ever, you know, had any. Any incidents at all with underage women. I don't think there's even an accusation of that, though. He's on this list.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. So Pritzker is on this. Who? Tom Pritzker.

[Glenn Beck]

Tom Pritzker, yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Chris Tucker, Noam Chomsky.

[Glenn Beck]

It's like a list of all famous people from this era.

[Stu Burguiere]

I know, Cameron Diaz, Bianca Jagger, Bruce Willis, Heidi Klum.

[Glenn Beck]

Again, should we be thinking Heidi Klum was having sex with underage girls?

[Stu Burguiere]

No, I think unlikely. I think these kinds of names are more likely the kinds of names that you would invite to give yourself credibility. Oh, I was just with Heidi Klum the other Klum the other day. I was just with Cate Blanchett having dinner with Bianca Jagger and Cameron Diaz. And you'd be like, oh, well, I guess it's okay.

[Glenn Beck]

And like, I know it could be more than this. Who knows? It's up for Hollywood names. You never know what the heck they're involved in. But like, these circles are. These circles, you know, these parties are built around big celebrities, athletes, things like that, that get invited to these parties at the same parties where there's just high powered executives who think it's cool to hang out with them. And so there's a lot of cross pollination here. We just have to be. We have to just be aware going in. I think most people on this list, it's gonna be clear. Heidi Klum, I don't think is in any danger of having these accusations against her and then building up to things. People like RFK Jr. Especially now with his association with Trump, will likely be targeted in a serious way. And they'll try to make a case that he did horrible, horrible things. Now. He has done horrible things, just not to that level. As far as I know. A lot of these people on this list are going to have to deal with stuff that, you know, unlike an Alan Dershowitz, who may have the, you know, meticulous records going back to the 60s. You know, I mean, that's not everybody.

[Stu Burguiere]

Would you be willing to give. What's her name, his assistant, Maxwell. Giselle. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, we all know who it is. Would you be willing to give her immunity if she turned testimony? I know it's really hard.

[Glenn Beck]

No, she was involved, as far as we know, again, allegedly very involved in this stuff. And we're talking about, you know, a bunch of children being molested and sexually assaulted, but I can't. I can't.

[Stu Burguiere]

So the one person, she's been in jail since 2020, 21, and so she's, she's paying for it because she was convicted of sex trafficking. And I have no sympathy for sex traffickers, but the, the people who hire for little children, they're just as bad. And yeah, one person could put a whole slew of people behind bars. I might consider it.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, the allegations, again, allegations, but I mean, she's in prison against her are like, she was convincing these young girls to come to the house.

[Stu Burguiere]

She's not a good woman.

[Glenn Beck]

This is not a fringy. Oh, well, she knows. She was one of the drivers and she did see this and that's. I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

Did you see the movie Tetris?

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, yes. About the kind of creation of the game, how it became. Came to the American market. Yeah, yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

You know, the rich guy in. In England and his son.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, yeah, that's. That's her dad.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's her dad.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her dad was a billionaire. Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

A really bad guy, but really bad.

[Glenn Beck]

Built on a house of cards and it all fell apart. He died. Right. I mean, she has. She's had a look again.

[Stu Burguiere]

She.

[Glenn Beck]

She's had a life which, you know, would make it incredibly disturbing, but an incredible movie. Yeah, I mean, she really has. But I, you know, I don't know. I can't. I mean, maybe there's. Maybe you could say, well, you're in a better prison cell. Like, I don't know what the. Maybe there's a. Some sort of concession you can make as a. So that's associated with it. But, like, I'm Not. I'm sorry, I'm not giving immunity to somebody who did that. I have a real problem with that.

[Stu Burguiere]

So would you give immunity? Because I would think if you're in Washington, D.C. right now, you might be thinking to yourself, gee, they're going to come and get me. I might try to become a whistleblower. If I'm. If I'm a bad guy, I might try to become a whistleblower and hope for immunity if I turn some big names in.

[Glenn Beck]

Now, if you had evidence. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Maybe you try. I mean, that's.

[Stu Burguiere]

There has to be a few people in Washington that had the evidence, had known what was going on. And just like, just as a safety. I'm going to keep this in a safety deposit box.

[Glenn Beck]

You'd think that that's out there.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And if this stuff all comes out again, we don't know what it is. So it's hard. We're all just speculating here. Maybe there is incredible evidence in here and we can really point to maybe there's 10% of that list that is really provable by this information. And if so, I want to know why it was held so long. But also it could just be the stuff that we already have and just, you know, and then I think we're in a position where, where just like, we were also very sensitive at the time about the MeToo accusations, where every name was getting thrown out there and a lot of these people denied. I mean, Trump is absolutely a victim of this. Right. Like, he has been accused by a ton of women for all sorts of terrible things. And we all, I think, look at it fairly and say, okay, he's the President of the United States, he's being targeted, likely for political reasons. But if there's evidence out there, all of us, everybody in this audience would want Trump in prison.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

If he actually did the stuff he was accused of, I would want him in prison. I don't care if he's on, quote, unquote, my side. He's not on my side. If he was doing that stuff.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And so I just don't think he was doing that stuff. And I have not seen any evidence that he was doing that stuff that's believable in any way. But you have to look at it that way. We still have to maintain the innocent until proven guilty standard. Right, Glenn?

[Stu Burguiere]

We do.

[Glenn Beck]

That has to be a part of this.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Even though I think a lot of Democrats might be caught up in it, they still get that protection.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, we get. We're going to Get a press conference today where Donald Trump is going to be naming names and organizations that have just, you know, in his view, and I believe him, built the United States of billions of dollars. I mean, he was in a press conference yesterday or, you know, speaking to the press and he was saying, you know, they were asking, what do you think about, you know, USAID and all the good that they do? And he's like, like, look, we're talking billions of dollars that have just been taken from the American people and used for all sorts of crazy things. He said, tomorrow, I'm going to name names. I'm going to show you what people were doing with your money. And he said, Pam Bondi is already on it. He said, there's no way, I believe there's no way this money was allocated to some of these NGOs and kickbacks. This didn't come back. That's why you're also hearing, and I love this Elon Musk saying, we've got to investigate every member of Congress that's been making $200,000 a year. They got into Congress and they were maybe, you know, worth 40, you know, $40,000 or even a million dollars, and now they're worth $200 million. What did you do to make that money? And I think we know some of it, it's insider trading, but for some reason, what's, again, what's illegal for you to do, they can do legally. That's got to stop. But I think there's also, there's going to, you're going to see it. You know, USAID was giving money to the Tides Foundation. You know, that next, next Wednesday, we're doing a special. We're, we're going to show you some names and things and connections that you haven't seen yet. We've been working on it for a few weeks. Money went to the, from our tax dollars, went from the US Government to the Tides Foundation. And the Tides foundation is really, in my opinion, it's a money laundering situation. It's just you can give anonymously and then it goes into this big pool of money and you can't trace it past there, there because it's a left wing organization that, you know, you can give to and you can say, oh, no, I was trying to feed the children in Africa when actually, wink, wink, nod, nod, I want this to go to stop Donald Trump or whatever the cause is and nobody can trace it to you. Why is the government giving money to the George Soros Open Society Fund? What? Why would we be giving money to George Soros. Why would we be giving money to the Tides Foundation? You imagine the outrage if. If government money was going to the nra. I mean, I'd be upset about that. Wait, hold it just a second. We're giving. My tax dollars are going to support this group? No, no, that's nowhere in the Constitution can that be done. I think it's. I think we're in for a few real eye opening days. And today might be another one. By the way, the Senate is voting to confirm JFK as HHS secretary. Yeah. RFK Jr. Well, nobody thought that. RFK. Thank you, Sarah. Bobby Kennedy's gonna be head of HHS. That's weird. How did that happen? Yeah, I know. RFK Jr.

[Glenn Beck]

Thought he said JFK. Okay.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, did I say JFK? Oh, okay. Well. Well, you're stupid anyway.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, JFK.

[Stu Burguiere]

Not my fault.

[Glenn Beck]

Maybe J. Maybe it's JFK Jr. No, he won't be there.

[Stu Burguiere]

He won't be there either. So there's only really one fk, right? That could be. That could be it. Really. That's left. And that would be RFK Jr. Thank you. They're looking to confirm him. Who else is in their last round? Cash Patel is in their last round of hearings today. There's somebody else that was in a hearing ring earlier today. Do you know who that was, Sarah? No. Tulsi was confirmed yesterday, but they're. They're in their last realm, the round. And it's interesting to me that the one they really want to stop is Cash Patel. They really wanted to stop Tulsi Intelligence. And then the guy who's the enforcement arm with the FBI, they gotta stop him. It's interesting what's making them squeal, isn't it? All right, back in just a second. The Israelis may be gearing up for more conflict in the coming days if Hamas continues to withhold the hostages. Donald Trump said by Saturday, if they don't release all of the hostages, there'll be hell to be paid. Uh, there's plenty of things that could go wrong in the area. And they're. They're still suffering. The people there are still suffering. I personally feel compelled to send the people of Israel and also God a message that we stand behind the Jewish people. They have been abandoned by the world over and over and over and over again. And we have too much in common with them. There are brothers and sisters. You know, we spring really Christianity. And this country springs from the loins of Israel. I'd like to bless Israel. I think you would too, if you would go to supportifcj.org help the people of Israel with just, you know, food, water, medical support, all of the things they stand in need of. 888488 ifcj 888488 ifcj supportifcj Glenn Beck.

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[Stu Burguiere]

Hour 3 still yet to come. There is a lot that happened yesterday that we haven't had a chance to cover yet. We do it in hour number three of the Glenn Beck program. Next. This is Glenn Becky it. Down the road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello America. You know the one thing that I learned when I became active in faith, I think I always had faith, but I didn't really do anything about it. And then I became active and I made it the center of my life. And my life, shockingly became so much easier and I really thought it would be the opposite. There are so many rules. I gotta do this, I gotta do that, but it makes your life so easy. Ross Douthen, he has just written a book called Believe why Everyone should be Religious. He kind of takes on the topic of living without faith is really harder than living with it. And he's absolutely fascinating conversation coming your way here in just a second. First, let me tell you about our sponsor. For 60 seconds, it's Patriot Mobile. Imagine every time your phone rings, you put it up to your ear and you think, gee, I'm paying to use this thing and some of that money is going to like Planned Parenthood. Not a pleasant thought. But if you're with some of the big mobile companies like Verizon, it's true. Now imagine answering your phone and thinking, wow, part of the money I'm spending on this call is going to defend freedom and the principles of our Constitution. Good news, Patriot Mobile is that company. They're America's only Christian conservative mobile phone company. Their mission is to passionately defend our God given constitutional rights. And freedoms and to glorify God always. And they offer nationwide, dependable coverage with access to all three major networks. So you're getting the same coverage without sending money to leftist causes. And the customer service, I believe, is better than others. And you can get a free month if you switch to Patriot Mobile today. Defend freedom with every call and text you make. 972-PATRIOT 972-PATRIOT or patriot mobile.com patriot mobile.com 972 Patriot promo code Beck. All right, Ross, welcome to the program. How are you?

[Ross Douthat]

I'm great, Glenn. Thanks so much for having me.

[Stu Burguiere]

You bet. I find your book and your premise here to be so true, just right off the bat, that it is easier to live with faith than to live without it. And when you really start to question it and engage your mind on faith, you have to reject so much science, I think, and common sense. If you dismiss God.

[Ross Douthat]

Yeah, obviously, I think that's right. I think we're in a moment right now in our culture where it's kind of an inflection point. It's interesting. We've lived through about 20 or 25 years where religion has been in decline. People have been leaving churches. You know, there's been scandal, sex abuse, politics, all of these things. And right now it seems to me that you've got a kind of a reconsideration where a lot of people, especially younger people, are taking a new look at religion or sort of interested in it again. But there's this hurdle that it gets to what you're saying, Glenn, that people feel like they need to get over where people are like, well, it'd be nice to be religious, but I feel like I have to leave my reason at the door. I have to, you know, leave science behind. I have to take this leap into the dark. And a big part of what I'm doing in this book is saying, no, in fact, that's not true. In fact, the world, the universe, the human place in the cosmos actually makes much more sense under religious premises than it does if you start out with the assumption that, you know, it's all random, accidental and so on. And in fact, most of what. What science has suggested, physics, especially in the last 50 or 100 years, is that we are, in fact, here for a reason. The universe is, in fact, made and not accidental. And that, I think, should lay a stronger foundation for people who are, you know, who would like to believe but struggle to get across the threshold.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's amazing to me because I think if God exists, which I believe he does, he has to be the greatest scientist because he created all this. And, and the math on the universe is exact and universal. It just doesn't seem to be something that could randomly just appear because it is so incredibly exact. I don't know if you've ever heard Thomas Jefferson's quote. He was writing his nephew Peter Carr and he said, you know, explaining different things. And he said, when it comes to religion, above all things, fix reason firmly in her seat because if there is a God, he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear. And that changed my life. You know, you should be asking these hard questions because you can find a lot of the answers. A lot you're never going to know. But science plays a real role in the discovery of God, right?

[Ross Douthat]

Yeah, yeah. And there's, I mean one, and one thing that has shifted in the last few generations is it was always the case, I think that science suggested that the universe was made by someone with, let's say, a very mathematical mind, right. That you know, and the fed, just the fact that human beings in our limited reason could understand these universal laws and figure out how calculus works, figure out theoretical physics, all of these things. All of those things I think already pointed towards some kind of divine architect. But then you get into just the fascinating reality that we've only recently figured out, which is that all of these values that sort of keep the universe together, the cosmological constant, the strong nuclear force, these sort of very particular aspects of physics are set in these really precise ways that if, and we're talking not like 1 in 100, we're talking, you know, 1, you know, 1 in 100 billion to produce stars, planets, life itself. And if you tweak those in one direction or another in just a tiny way, you would have an empty dead cosmos, a cosmos that flies apart of cosmos and collapses in on itself. And our universe really is in this kind of Goldilocks jackpot zone for making us possible. And what's fascinating is that even atheistic non believing scientists basically acknowledge this and they've sort of taken refuge in the idea of, you know, the multiverse, right? Like one reason that every superhero movie now has this idea of the multiverse, right? It's actually become really important for the atheist to believe. Well, we can't, we can't, we seem special, but in fact there must be, you know, a gazillion other universes we can't see. And the motto of modern atheism is basically better a gazillion universes we can't see than one God, that's sort of where atheism has ended up.

[Stu Burguiere]

So how would you deal with quantum physics or, you know, quantum computing even? How do you deal with. Go ahead.

[Ross Douthat]

Well, the quantum revolution is also. That's. That's another really fascinating case, right? Where quantum physics is sort of the place where our reason, our ability to fully understand the world hits a kind of limit, at least so far, right. End up with these really weird things where, you know, something is something. A wave or a particle is something there or in a different place. It all, you know, depending on. It all depends on observation, right? Like. Like whether, you know, basically, to really oversimplify, it seems like at the. At the deepest level of reality, there's a kind of possibility that only collapses into reality when we ourselves are looking at it and measuring it and studying it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Gives the quote, you know, or the old saying, you know, if a tree falls in the woods and nobody's there to hear it, did it actually happen? It actually gives teeth to that in a way, right?

[Ross Douthat]

Quantum physics said maybe it did or maybe it didn't. It depends on whether we were there to see it. But the implication. The implication of that is, in fact, a religious implication. Because it says, look, mind actually precedes matter, right? And human. The human mind participates. Every time you're looking around at the world, we are, you know, in a bizarre but fascinating way, participating in the. The literal creation or an existence of the world. And obviously, this has implications for creation itself, right? Because there was a very long period of. Of, you know, cosmological history where human beings weren't around as observers. But the religious perspective has always been that it's the mind of God that holds that. That holds reality together in total. Right. And that, I think, is something that is deeply consonant with what quantum physics has figured out about how our own minds relate to reality. We are, in fact, made in the image of God in the sense that we, like God, participate in taking possibilities and turning them into physical realities. Which. It sort of blows your mind. But it is, in fact, like the most. I think, the most plausible interpretation of what quantum physics suggests.

[Stu Burguiere]

Fascinating. Give me your explanation on why you think that it is easier to live life with than without faith.

[Ross Douthat]

Well, I mean, there's. There's two levels, right? Like. Like there's a sort of practical case for religion that a lot of people who aren't deeply religious can still get behind, right? Which is to say, you know, it's good to have a sense of meaning and purpose, a sense of your own cosmic significance. And I think, you know, a lot of. One reason among many that you see a lot of depression and anxiety and even suicidality among younger people these days is that there's the first generation in American history where large numbers of them have been raised, you know, not even with like a weak form of faith, but with no exposure to religion at all. No basic Sunday school, you know, nothing, nothing like that. Right. And there's a way in which religious belief just offers you a basic grounding in your own life. You have a place, you're here for a reason, it's not an accident. You know, human civilization is not just like a candle that's about to be snuffed out by climate change or something. And then related to that, there's faith as a form of community, right? There's solidarity, there's support. All of the kind of things that Alexis de Tocqueville wrote about in American life, right, the role that religious institutions play in building social capital, all of that is real. So that's step one. But in the book, I'm trying to push a little bit beyond that because I think I have a lot of readers. I write for the New York Times, obviously has a fairly secular readership. I have a lot of readers who, yeah, it's an understatement, fine, but, but a lot of religious readers as well, I can assure you. And, but there's a lot of people who will go that far with you. They'll say, yeah, religion, it's good for you, it's good for you to, it's good to take your kids to church, gives them a moral grounding. It's good to, you know, have some faith and purpose in the universe. But in the end, isn't it still kind of unreasonable? And the case I'm making in the book is no, in fact, the practical benefits of religion are there because religion is in fact a better description of reality than secularism and atheism. And in fact, you know, there's a line attributed to the scientist John von Neumann, right, who he said something like this is actually something he supposedly said to his mother. So there's some debate whether he said it or not. But the line goes, you know, there probably is a God. A lot of things make a lot more sense if there is one. And that's what I'm trying to persuade people of here, that in fact it's not just that religion is good for you in an immediate day to day sense, it's that it's good for you because there probably is a God you're probably going to meet him when you die. You probably should be organizing your life to some degree around that reality. And that is, in fact, the reasonable thing for people to do.

[Stu Burguiere]

But wait, but wait. The, you know, that's, that's like I've always joked, you know, if I'm an atheist, I'm just going to hedge my bet a little bit. You know, I'm going to live my life.

[Ross Douthat]

Wager.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. Just in case. Right. So that's. But that's not what you're saying, is it?

[Ross Douthat]

Well, I am, I am saying. So there's a kind of depth hedging where you're like, okay, you know, maybe there's a one in a thousand chance that there's a God. And if there is that chance, I should pay attention to it because, you know, even a one in a thousand chance of entering eternity is a pretty big deal. No, I'm going much further than that. I'm saying there is a very, very strong probability that there is a God. And that strong probability is the starting place for going out there, going to church, reading books, praying, and seeing if you can have a relationship with this God. Right. So in the end, you can't. Look, you can't think your way to a relationship with God because it's a relationship, but you can think and reason your way to the point where you can say, this is something I should be looking for. This is something I should be doing. It makes sense to seek to knock and see if the door is opened unto you.

[Stu Burguiere]

All right, I've got a couple of questions left, but I need to take a one minute break and then I want to come back and have you just explore just one facet of what you just said. There's a very, very, very good chance it's most likely that there is a God. You say that with such conviction, and I can say that from my own personal experience. But how do you make that case to somebody who is an agnostic? We'll get that answer here in just a second. First, let me tell you about Lear Capital. If you missed our number one, you should go back and listen to it. Today on the podcast I talked about rehypothecation, which is so sexy. I mean, everybody's like, everybody wants to talk about it. I told you there's something happening with gold right now. The amount of gold there, shortages of it in London. Somebody's buying an enormous amount of gold and speculation is it might be us this time. Which means something's happening and being planned for our currency and our Our finance, our finances, and. And the way we run things. As I told you yesterday, they're talking about repricing gold. The United States has it on our books as $45 an ounce. I don't know, maybe we should increase that, at least to the actual price of 2,900. It would make our balance sheets look better. But they're talking about maybe even going further than that. 5,000, $10,000 for an ounce of gold? What does that mean? What's coming? Please do your homework. Somebody is shoring up for the future. And believe it or not, it might be our government. What do they know that you don't know? A lot of stuff. Lear Capital. Call them now. 800-957-Gold. 800-957-Gold. Get their free $4200 gold report. See why gold could be headed for record highs unrelated to everything I just said in 2025. Call 800-957-Gold. 800-957-Gold. 10 seconds. Station ID. So in the book, you talk about being at a Christmas party in the mid-2000s, and you found yourself trapped in a kitchen with Christopher Hitchens. And you, you tell an interesting story here that is kind of the, the, the genesis, if you will, of what you were putting together in the book. But I don't know, I want to ask you to tell that story, but I also want you to answer. And they may be related. That's why I'm asking it this way. How do you say that to somebody who doesn't believe there is a God or is completely agnostic? That, no, no, no, there's a very, very, very good chance that there is God.

[Ross Douthat]

Right. So what Hitchens, who is, of course one of the most famous atheists in the world at that point, said to me was something like, you know, suppose he was, you know, it was a bad English accent. I apologize. But suppose it was established that Jesus of Nazareth really did rise from the dead. What would that really prove? Right. And so that was. I was a little taken aback. It was late. I didn't have a great response at the time. Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's a Christmas party.

[Glenn Beck]

So, I mean, I think what that.

[Ross Douthat]

What that gets at, though, is this. You have people who, you know, will. Will sort of go a little ways with the religious argument. They'll say, okay, yeah, you know, it's. It's interesting that the universe seems to have this, you know, this kind of design that's. That's interesting. Oh, you know, human consciousness is a little bit mysterious. But they'll say, look, you can it can't add up to anything in the end, or it's, it's all, you know, even if, like some weird thing happens, something that seems supernatural somewhere. Right. You know, that doesn't tell you what you should do with your own life. And that's, I think, in a way, a fair argument. But the response is basically that the reason to be religious doesn't lie in one single argument. It's not like you open Thomas Aquinas, you find, you know, one philosophical case for the existence of God, you set that down and you say, all right, right. It's that, it's done. You got to be religious. No, what it lies in is the convergence of a bunch of different lines of evidence. You start with the evidence that the universe was designed and fine tuned with us in mind. Okay, that's pretty interesting. Then you add the evidence that our consciousness has its own kind of supernatural capacities. We were talking about, you know, quantum physics earlier, the relationship between mind and matter there. But there's also just the fact that the mind can do things that a purely material sort of, you know, things shouldn't be able to do, like penetrate the mysteries of the cosmos. Okay. So the universe seems designed with us in mind. Our mind seem designed to understand the universe. And then, and this is, this is important, and this is also where some secular people get off the bus. But it's important to make the argument you also have religious experience as a fundamental feature of human life. That just doesn't go away if you declare the world to be secular. Right. There's this whole idea that the world is disenchanted, that, you know, we used to have fairies and ghosts and all these things and, and now we're men of science and we don't. That's just not true at all. Official knowledge is disenchanted. Like if you go and read Wikipedia.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Ross Douthat]

You know, most of the people writing Wikipedia don't believe in the supernatural. But you and I both know, Glenn, that people who go out looking for an encounter with God often have an encounter with God.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Ross Douthat]

And in fact, people who aren't looking for one also have crazy, bizarre, fascinating things happen to them. And there are supernatural things like near death experiences that we know more about because of modern science. We bring a lot more people back from the dead than we used to that we didn't know about in 1750 or 1450. And to me, the addition of supernatural experience, it takes you from a world where you can say, right, there's probably a God, but he might be distant.

[Stu Burguiere]

And out of reach to a world where it's not. I'm sorry to cut you off. Ross. Douth it the name of the book. This is Glenn Beck Believe why Everyone should be why Everyone should be Religious. Great, great, great conversation. Love to have him back. All right, let me talk to you about real estate agents. I trust. A recent report from the Consumer Federation of America showed many real estate companies and their agencies hire indiscriminately. Then they fail to adequately train and supervise their new agents agents. So through lax hiring and training, many companies sponsor agents that have too little knowledge and experience to adequately serve their customers. I'm still quoting. Home buyers and sellers benefit from considering recent sales experience and customer evaluations before hiring an agent. You don't think of hiring and a real estate agent, but that's what you're doing. You don't think of interviewing them. This is why I started real estate agentsitrust.com because most people don't know how to interview interview real estate agent. They don't know what the best practices are. They don't know how to find that really great real estate agent that gives it their all and can turn your housing experience from horrible into great real estate agents. I trust dot com. I don't charge you for this service. We just recommend people that use should talk to to represent you with real estate. Real Estate AgentsITrust.com Sign up to BlazeTV.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Most Americans have been aware that Anthony Fauci since the COVID pandemic really took off in 2020, we realized who he was. But Dr. Richard Enbright, he's a molecular biologist from Rutgers University. He has had Foushee on his radar since 2001. Do you remember the anthrax scare? Dick Cheney stepped in at that point and said, we need to find all of the different biological weapons that could be used and we need to start funding biodefense. Now it was at that time solely in the realm of the Department of Defense. Was the Department of Defense doing it? Probably, but it had been banned in 2001 after the anthrax. All of a sudden, Dick Cheney goes to Anthony Fauci and he says, I want you to run this program and you will oversee all of it and you can do what you want. And Fauci said, gain a function. And Cheney said, yep, okay, good. That sounds great. But Foushee was put allowed, I should say, to be in a black box. And the anthrax actually came from A government laboratory and a. And an employee that had an ax to grind. Did you even know that?

[Glenn Beck]

It's been a long time.

[Stu Burguiere]

A long time.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't remember the details of it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. So that was caused by the government doing experiments on anthrax. And we have several of these. The. The swing. It's a swine flu, the bird flu that's going around right now. Also, lab leaks. And it's just embarrassment after embarrassment. And Foushee keeps getting away with it. It. The Spanish flu. Do you remember when they brought the Spanish flu back? It was completely dead. There was no Spanish flu. We dug people up to get samples so we could recreate the Spanish flu. Why would we do that? So Matt Kibbe and Richard Ebright, who is this fascinating professor, he has been following Fauci the whole time he's been. And trying to demand an end to the dark research and the corruption and the fraud of Anthony Foushee. Um, he tells the whole story of the smoking gun. This came from a lab gang. And we knew it. We knew it. Tonight, episode four of the COVID Up Smoking gun on Blaze tv. It releases today. You can become a subscriber@fauci coverup.com Glenn. Use the code Smoking Gun, $30 off your subscription. That's fauci coverup.com Glenn. Your promo code is Smoking Gun for $30 off your subscription. This is a really good documentary. Really, really good. You'll. My wife and I, we watched it, and she's, you know, she just doesn't. She watches the show. She listens to my show. She'll listen to the news, but she doesn't live it like I do. And she was really tired, and I had to go to bed, and I had to watch this, like, three weeks ago, just so I was aware of everything. So I put it on my iPad next to the bedstand, and I'm just going to go to sleep, you know, and watch it as I fall asleep. And all of a sudden I feel her head on my shoulder, and she's rolled over and she's got her head on my shoulder, and she's watching it. And she keeps saying, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. You've got to be kidding me. What? And there's a lot of places in this documentary that I said that a lot of this stuff was very, very satisfying because it is now final confirmation of all of the things that we exposed about COVID 19. But it's worse than we thought. It is a God complex. And it. This has got to Stop. Got to stop. So make sure you watch it. It premieres tonight on Blaze tv. Do we have the trailer? Can we play the trailer real quick? Here it is. It is inconceivable that I was trying to cover up the possibility of a lab. President Biden has pardoned Anthony Fauci. The gain of function research was going.

[Glenn Beck]

On in that lab and NIH funded it.

[Stu Burguiere]

You do not know what you are talking about. Why did Biden give Fauci a blank check? Going back to 2014, there was pushback on Anthony Fauci, who had been a much respected figure, the highest paid employee in the in the federal government. Why they asked NIA Director Dr. Fauci, why again are you funding such research.

[Ross Douthat]

And why are you doing it without.

[Stu Burguiere]

A risk benefit assessment? In October of 2014, the NIH sent letters, cease and desist letters to the research organizations carrying out those projects saying that research should be paused. But it existed primarily on paper.

[Glenn Beck]

CDC workers somehow lost track of samples.

[Stu Burguiere]

Leaking box vials labeled smallpox.

[Glenn Beck]

The damage dangerous H5N1, one of history's most feared viruses. Recreate the Spanish flu.

[Stu Burguiere]

The failings go deeper. Cross contaminated samples and sent the same.

[Glenn Beck]

Workers in three labs handled one of the most deadly strains of anthrax.

[Stu Burguiere]

Participated in a conspiracy to defraud the public about the origin in a conspiracy to cover up the origin. Each time Fauci's response has been to double down and say, you did the right. The COVID up airs tonight, begins. You can stream it anytime you want.

[Glenn Beck]

Looks really good.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, it's really. Really. You haven't seen it yet? No, it's really good. Really good.

[Glenn Beck]

By the way, the anthrax guy was looking at the details on that because you're reminding me. And they go through what's the official explanation? Because I remember it being really close to 911 and thinking it was part of that. And they say basically, no, it wasn't.

[Stu Burguiere]

It wasn't.

[Glenn Beck]

But one of the main things they say, the doctor who wound up killing himself in 2008, why he sent the anthrax? He had a history of mental health problems, including symptoms of paranoia, obsessive actions and bipolar disorder. Maybe not the guy to hire to deal with the anthrax. I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

I just gotta throw that out there. Americans with disabilities.

[Glenn Beck]

I know Pete Buttigieg would be very upset.

[Stu Burguiere]

Exactly right.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't really hire any paranoid bipolar obsessives to deal with.

[Stu Burguiere]

What you understand about this is any time that these things have escaped a lab, it's because of A disgruntled crazy person or sloppiness by somebody at the lab. So when you have these things should be at the highest level security because there's no cure for some of this stuff. Highest level of security. And there should be maybe one or two labs because you can control those and the world can watch and make sure everything is handled right. But every time one of these things has happened, it's escaped because somebody was like the, was it the bird flu? I can't remember. They were working on one of these things and somebody wanted to go home early. You know, it was like coming up at 5:00 and they're like, I gotta get home, I want to leave. Believe. And they got sloppy and it got out because they were sloppy. The more, the more of these labs we have around the world, the more likely it is we wipe ourself out. Okay. And we had these in Ukraine. Ukraine. I don't know if they still exist. I don't know what was in them. I've heard that we just took blowtorches to those places to destroy all the evidence, but also to hopefully kill all the bacteria. But that's not a good place to have this stuff. What are we doing?

[Glenn Beck]

Even before the war.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh yeah, I know, I know.

[Glenn Beck]

Pretty clear that Ukraine was in the side eye of Russia there for a while.

[Stu Burguiere]

Did you hear about the relative of J.D. vance? Distant relative, but she's 12 years old. She had to have a heart transplant and Cincinnati Children's Hospital wouldn't give her the heart transplant because she hadn't had the COVID vaccine. And the parents are like, no, we don't believe in the vaccine, we don't want the vaccine. So they took her off the list of a heart transplant. 12 year old girl. I don't know if anybody even, maybe the family knew they were directly related to JD Vance, but this is going to turn into a nightmare for this hospital. As it should.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, that's not a good reason for it. It has nothing to do with J.D. vance. It has to. It's a terrible reason to do that.

[Stu Burguiere]

I mean, I understand if you're an active alcoholic and you need a kidney transplant. No, I don't think we're going to give you a good kidney. You know, you just glue through yours.

[Glenn Beck]

You'll be back here in two weeks needing a new one.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, you'll need a new one. So no, you have to do things to change your life. But the COVID vaccine.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it's horrible. Well, and this is something that our new HHS Secretary RFK Jr. Who was just confirmed, by the way.

[Stu Burguiere]

Just confirmed.

[Glenn Beck]

Yep. He can. He will be, I think, have a laser focus on. I won't agree with him on probably some of the stuff that he does, but I will be. I will be very much behind him on efforts like that. Certainly shouldn't be taking children off of heart transplant lists because they didn't get the COVID vaccine, which, again, there's no evidence that they would need it. It.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, I know. I. I have to. I really am anxious for you to watch this because you've. I don't think you've ever thought Fauci was a good guy, but I don't know if you ever thought that he was really, really dark and nefarious.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I mean, I. I don't like a lot of the stuff that he did.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. He.

[Glenn Beck]

I think he quite clearly was lying about all of this. I think nefarious is a fair description as to how he handled this situation. I don't know that I think of him as like the, you know, the source of all genocide, as some do on the right. Many do.

[Stu Burguiere]

When you watch this, when you see there is no medical reason for us to be doing these things.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know that I agree with that.

[Stu Burguiere]

No. Because we're not making vaccines. We are making disease. This is the thing that Russia used to do, the Soviet Union used to do. Remember Ken. Al. What was his name? He was the head of the Russian.

[Glenn Beck]

Soviet.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, Soviet biological warfare. And he said the difference between America and the Soviet Union is we were making disease worse and we were trying to make it kill more people and be more, you know, the transmission, human to human transmission to be, you know, as close to 100 as we could get. He said, but America, they only worked on diseases to try to find the antidote in case it was used. We're not doing that.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, no, I. And I think. Because I think gain of function research can. Is theoretically justifiable.

[Stu Burguiere]

Watch this, Doc.

[Glenn Beck]

But, yeah, it's not pragmatically justifiable. Like, in theory, I can understand why you'd want to see what the worst nature has to offer is. And we should really look at that because that could happen and we better have something to fight back against it. I can understand that line of thought.

[Stu Burguiere]

We should see the worst that nature can give, but then we should not take that and soup it up to make it transmissible in humans.

[Glenn Beck]

In theory. Again, in theory, I can understand because those things do happen naturally sometimes. And so to try to get ahead of that and plan for it is theoretically, again, important phrase, justifiable. And it's justifiable specifically. If you're Fauci and you think you are science, you think you could control this? Oh no, I know these doctors, I know these labs. And in theory you could see how a person like that would say, of course we can control this, we're science. In reality, a different calculation that you have to factor in here, it doesn't work. You can't do this. There's too many leaks. People are imperfect. They want to go home at 5:00. They get sloppy. So no, don't do it.

[Stu Burguiere]

But in theory, it's only justifiable in theory. I agree with everything you just said. In theory it's not justifiable unless you're trying to make the antidote, right?

[Glenn Beck]

You're trying to figure out how to prepare, right? In case this happens.

[Stu Burguiere]

You create something that you think might happen in nature. Okay, let's see if it can infect humans or human mice. Now let's make the antidote to kill that. So in case it ever does happen. But we're not doing that.

[Glenn Beck]

I gotta watch this.

[Stu Burguiere]

So what is the justification of what Fauci and the NIH and everybody else has been doing? What's the justification? Back in just a second. Simplisafe. There is a lot to protect under that roof of yours. First of all, you really want to keep all the things you own, the things you worked hard for from being stolen by some burglar. But also, you know, you want your family to be safe. That means getting a home security system. And I recommend highly Simplisafe. They offer advanced state of the ART Home Security 24, seven monitoring plans for around a dollar a day. It's an incredible price when you think about it. Because their liveguard protection and fast protect monitoring the the people can act on an alarm at SimpliSafe within 5 seconds and even talk to the intruder in your yard. Their exclusive active guard outdoor protection uses AI powered cameras which are backed up by the live human agents who will keep a watch over your property 24, 7. No long term contracts. Easy to set up or they'll do it for you. 60 day satisfaction guaranteed. It's simply safe.com Beck claim 50% off a new system with professional monitoring Plan and your first month guaranteed that SimpliSafe.com Beck SimpliSafe.com Beck There is no safe like Simplisafe. You want the truth unfiltered? Pull up a chair my friend. You're in the right, right place. This is Glenn Beck. Have you ever spotted McDonald's hot crispy.

[Alan Dershowitz]

Fries right as they're being scooped into the carton?

[Stu Burguiere]

And time just stands still. Bottom up 52. 48 for RFK Jr confirmed. That means who was the Republican against?

[Glenn Beck]

All the Democrats, plus McConnell. Same as Tulsi yesterday, which I think is actually vitally important. Something really important you can take out of that, which is McConnell doesn't have a contingency anymore like he was when he was leader. He had really close friends that would go with him kind of on everything, and he now no longer has that contingency. He couldn't get one other senator to come with him on either of those votes. That's really notable.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. His power is over. Which means the. The regime or the. What else would you establish? Establishment is now with Trump. Yes. And that's. And I. And I.

[Glenn Beck]

Not everlasting.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. That's not ever.

[Glenn Beck]

But it is.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's happening right now. The first sign of, you know, trouble on the horizon for Donald Trump, you know, bad skip in the economy or something else. All that. All those people will regather and be against. But right now, he's the establishment. Right now he's getting. Nobody's really standing in his way, at least in a vocal way, a public way, except Mitch McConnell. And no one is standing with McConnell. That's really good news. This is Glenn Beck.