The End of Biden’s DISASTROUS Era Is Finally Here | Guests: Brad Meltzer & Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann | 1/17/25

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program – "The End of Biden’s DISASTROUS Era Is Finally Here"

Introduction In the January 17, 2025 episode of The Glenn Beck Program, hosted by Stu Burguiere under the Blaze Podcast Network, Glenn Beck and his guest hosts delve into the culmination of President Joe Biden's administration. The episode features insightful discussions with author Brad Meltzer and filmmaker Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann, focusing on political transitions, historical conspiracies, and environmental challenges.

1. The End of an Era and the Dawn of a New Chapter Stu Burguiere opens the conversation by declaring the conclusion of Biden’s administration as the end of a tumultuous era marked by natural disasters, economic instability, and political division.

"We're about to turn the page and enter a new era or a new chapter. We're really standing on the edge," (02:10).

Stu emphasizes the pervasive chaos—stemming from wildfires, hurricanes, and mismanagement—and underscores the significance of transitioning to a new administration that promises stability and restoration.

2. Optimism Amidst Security Concerns The hosts express a sense of optimism for the incoming administration while addressing concerns about the security of the inauguration.

"I am optimistic because I'm seeing great changes there. There is something coming that is good," (20:41).

Stu Burguiere discusses the possibility of security threats during the inauguration, revealing a 50/50 assessment of potential risks. Glenn Beck echoes these sentiments, highlighting the extensive security measures planned to protect President Donald J. Trump.

3. Guest Segment: Brad Meltzer on Historical Conspiracies Brad Meltzer joins the program to discuss his latest book, "The JFK Conspiracy: The Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy and Why It Failed." He explores a lesser-known conspiracy theory involving Lyndon B. Johnson’s alleged attempt to assassinate President John F. Kennedy.

"The real answer is because he's Catholic, of all things... Pavlik wants to kill JFK because JFK's Catholic," (91:47).

Meltzer elaborates on how religious biases and political tensions of the 1960s may have motivated such conspiracies. He draws parallels between past and present political climates, suggesting that deep divisions continue to pose threats to national stability.

4. Guest Segment: Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann on Environmental Documentary "Hotshot" Filmmaker Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann presents his documentary, "Hotshot," which offers a raw portrayal of California’s wildfire crisis. Mann criticizes Hollywood for its perceived overemphasis on climate change, arguing that proactive measures like prescribed burns, as practiced in Florida, are more effective.

"We made a very rational conclusion...We're going to do that," (67:37).

He contrasts California's approach with Florida's, advocating for direct action to manage wildfire risks rather than attributing fires predominantly to climate change. Mann highlights the resistance from mainstream media and studios to present alternative narratives.

5. Live Inauguration Coverage Announcement The hosts announce live coverage of President Trump’s second inauguration, scheduled to begin at 11 am Eastern Time on BlazeTV. They emphasize the significance of this event as the start of a "golden era" and invite listeners to join the broadcast.

"Monday 11am Eastern. It will, we will simulcast with this podcast," (24:26).

6. Technological and Social Commentary A segment of the discussion pivots to societal issues like social media addiction, specifically targeting platforms like TikTok. The hosts argue that such platforms contribute to diminishing attention spans and critical thinking.

"It's like dipping your brain in acid," (52:30).

They express concerns over privacy and national security implications tied to foreign-owned platforms, advocating for greater governmental intervention to protect American interests.

7. Security Measures for the Inauguration Glenn Beck and Stu Burguiere engage in an off-air discussion about the extensive security protocols for the inauguration, including the involvement of private security firms alongside the Secret Service.

"How do you secure something like that?" (28:04).

They debate the feasibility of securing large public events against potential threats and share anecdotes about past security challenges.

8. Closing Thoughts As the episode nears its end, the hosts reiterate the theme of ending a chaotic era and the hopeful beginnings of a new administration. They encourage listeners to support BlazeTV for comprehensive coverage of pivotal events like the inauguration.

"It's the beginning of the end of diversity twisted into a weapon where diversity of thought, values and spirit were just disregarded," (04:05).

Notable Quotes

• Stu Burguiere: "This is truly about the rebirth or the rediscovering of what it truly means to be free." (04:05)
• Brad Meltzer: "All conspiracies are mirrors of America. They show us our fears and what we worry about." (93:59)
• Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann: "We need to accept that we have agency over the problem. And they refuse to do that." (71:24)

Conclusion This episode of The Glenn Beck Program presents a mix of political analysis, historical investigation, and environmental advocacy, framed by a strong call for unity and proactive change. Through engaging dialogue and expert insights, the hosts aim to provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the impending political transition and its broader implications for American society.

Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Unknown]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Well, hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're very glad that you're here. I want to give you a perspective because this is the last broadcast of the full day of this administration. And I think we're at the end of an era, beginning of a new era. And I want to put that in perspective in 60 seconds. First, it's kind of been terrifying the past several months, at least when it comes to the summer blockbuster level disasters from wildfires to hurricanes, sea to shining sea. And not just the danger that nature and mismanagement can bring, but also today we have news about China. Their economy is collapsing. We're going to get Carol Roth on in about an hour and she's going to give us all of the details on what that means exactly. But one of the things that it could mean is a real disruption in our medication. You don't want that they make 80 or 90% of all of our generic medication. That's not Good. Get the Jace case. J A S E. Simple reliable emergency supply of life saving medications to put the control in your hands. There's no way to prepare for literally every single thing that can go wrong. But there are lots of ways to prepare for everything that you know could go wrong. And the ones that make maximum impact, this one is very low entry and maximum impact in your life. It isn't about fear, it's about responsibility. Be prepared to protect your family in the future. Don't wait. The next headline might wake you up in a not a good way. And Jace is available right now. Use the promo code Beck. Make sure you have the right medications on hand at your home when you need them. Jase j-a s e.com promo code beck jase.com all right. Good morning, Stu. How are you?

[Glenn Beck]

Three days, Glenn.

[Stu Burguiere]

Three days. Three days till the fundamental transformation of America.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

No more of this guy, no more of her, no more of them.

[Stu Burguiere]

Uh, I, you know, but I think it's a lot bigger than. I was thinking about this today when I was driving in that this administration exiting is not just another exit, you know, exit of a president. It's not the same. Um, and it wasn't like this in 16, although we hoped it would be. But it is this time because the people and the feeling in the country, even among Democrats, is different now. We're about to turn the page and enter a new app, a new era or a new chapter. We're really standing on the edge. Monday is a moment far larger than politics, but it's only the beginning. It's not just the end of a presidency, not the changing of the guard. It is truly the end of an era. An era marked by madness, by confusion, by division, distortion, a deafening cacophony of chaos. All of that has drowned out reason and common sense. And it, you know, it didn't. It didn't start yesterday. As much as the left tried to make this all about words by twisting meaning, redefining words or using words in ways, quite honestly to use their words in mis. Dis or mal. Information, this era is not going to be remembered by the words but by the actions of those who spoke the millions of those meaningless words. We can see right now the destruction of our economy, our security, the in. In really, really clear terms in the homes and the hearths of California, that it is the actions of people that matter more than simple words. By their. By their fruits ye shall know them. The fruit of this tree is rotted. And people now are beginning to see that now like I said this didn't begin four years ago. It turned it up to volume number 10. But this has been brewing for decades. It has been in our institutions far longer than any of us realize, metastasizing in our culture, our institutions and our hearts, and hardening our hearts. It is an era that we leave on Monday that put truth itself on trial. Can you even define what truth is anymore? We, we went into this place that was so absurd we couldn't define something as fundamental and self evident as can you tell me what a woman is? Historians are going to look back on this last era that we're now leaving as pure madness. But it's also a time when it took everything in people to question the powerful mob, to speak the truth that you believe it was a. It was a risk that at first far too many people wouldn't do because they were afraid of being shouted down, counts, counts canceled, or much, much worse. Common decency. The once unspoken bond that united us was thrown out the window. It became not only unfashionable, but absolutely unrecognizable. And everybody was at each other's throats. Common sense. Our old friend just dismissed, exiled, seemingly to the fringes of our society, as if it were dangerous now or just wildly outdated. And we know that we didn't know that yesterday, but we know that today. And I mean literally yesterday. How many words changed? How many things, concepts, huge truths that we knew. We would wake up one day and it was completely being dismissed. And you'd be like, where did this come from? We're leaving a time of breathtaking hypocrisy, where those who deny corruption themselves take bribes from hostile nations. Where the righteous call for unity while sowing division. This era racism has been repackaged and sold back to us under the guise of anti racism. Hatred, we're told, is perfectly fine as long as it's aimed at the right people. And those right people may be the wrong people tomorrow. Faith in God has been replaced by faith in climate, models, sexuality, identity. In this last era that we're now getting ready to leave, all of those religions had their own dogmas, their high priest, their rituals, and above all, their lack of forgiveness, meaning that they were antichrist teachings. But somehow or another, many of our churches embrace them as the message of Christ. There cannot be Christ in any message that doesn't include forgiveness. But this isn't where the story ends. We thought before this election this might be where our story ends. But here is the really unbelievable news. God stepped in. And if you don't recognize that there is no hope for us. God stepped in and did something none of us could do. First of all, he saved the President's life twice. And if you think that was a secret service, you're nuts. God saved him twice. God changed him. And suddenly our society is waking up. This guy who's not our savior won and people started flocking to him and willing to take bold stands and say, you know what? All this crap, it's wrong. So this is not the end of an era alone. It's the beginning of the end of that era. The end of unreasonable hatred of others not because they look different, but simply because they voted differently. They didn't think differently. You know, there was, it was nothing about actual diversity. It was all about voting. It's the end of unquestioning obedience to the so called media and experts who demand that we followed them without question into the slaughterhouse, hoping, I guess hoping against hope, many of us, that if we would just comply, our turn on the chopping block would never come. It's the end of the era of my body, my choice, in everything, in everything else other than killing your baby. You can kill your baby. My body, my choice. Well, it's not your body that's being killed, it's the baby's body. Made no sense, but boy, oh boy, not with Max masks, not with vaccines, not with the basic right to just use your legs and leave your home. It's an end of an era where we have to ask ourselves, whose side is this government on? Who is actually running this thing? What is the actual plan that our leaders have? How, how is this helping the average American who is actually the president that ends on Monday. It's the beginning of the end. There's a lot of work to do, but it's the beginning of the end of diversity twisted into a weapon where diversity of thought, values and spirit were just disregarded, replaced by a narrow, suffocating dogma that demanded conformity in all ways, even if you were conforming yesterday. And then somehow or another, through the ether, the mob decided what was true yesterday is no longer true today. The mob would get you on anything you disagreed with. It's the end of the era where dissent was met, met not with debate, but with just now meaningless labels. Racist, fascist, bigot. I think it's really important that all of us recognize this is not about Democrats. There are a lot of Democrats that actually woke up. It's not about Democrats, it's not about Republicans. I think both of them stink, quite honestly. I do. And that's the message of this new administration. And you see it with the diversity of people that are actually in this administration. We don't agree on locks in lockstep on everything. Far from it. The establishment in the Democrats and the Republicans do. But this isn't about Democrat, Republicans, liberals, conservative, independent. This is truly about something much, much deeper that begins Monday. It's older and far more grander than a political party. It is truly about the rebirth or the rediscovering of what it truly means to be free. Monday marks the rebirth of something absolutely extraordinary. Things we used to find self evident. The freedoms guaranteed just in our First Amendment. The freedom to question our government. They work for us, we don't work for them. The freedom to speak our mind, even the most unpleasant and disruptive things you are allowed to say. The freedom to worship, to live out your beliefs, to be who you are without demanding that others speak, affirm, or even accept your truth. You know, the one thing that we have forgotten in this last era that I hope we are remembering is that this nation wasn't built by people who all walked in lockstep. They didn't agree on everything. In fact, far from it. It was built by people who often vehemently disagreed on the right path forward, but they shared the common commitment to respecting each other's rights and fulfilling their own responsibilities. It was built on the idea that disagreement, when handled with humility and respect, makes us stronger, not weaker. Diversity of thought is important. Diversity of skin color doesn't matter. And so, as we say farewell to an era of absolute chaos, it's really important that we don't say goodbye in anger or bitterness. And that is hard. We can't alienate our neighbors or assume the worst of those who see the world differently. If we agree on the rebirth of the Bill of Rights and each responsibility that is tied to those rights, Monday, I hope we recognize that this is an end of an era. This weekend and Monday is an invitation to rebuild, to restore, to renew an era, a golden era. An era that is dawning just in front of all of us. And it belongs to all of us, not just those who won an election or share my view or your view. It's an Eric that can only succeed if we remember the lessons of the past and commit to something better. To restore hope not just in our institutions, but in each other. Renew our faith, not just in God, though that's vital, but also in the idea that people, flawed though they are, can be capable of incredible good, seek restoration, not just of our economy but. And our government, but of our hearts, of our communities, of our families, our shared understanding of what it means to be human and to be free. This weekend, I want you to bid farewell to all of the chaos. It's the beginning of the end. There will be more chaos as we go, but as we lay it down, leave it behind. Walk forward. Leave your fear behind. Walk in courage. Not in hatred, but in love. Because the truth is, this country has faced darker days than these. I didn't think we'd make it here, gang. But every time this country seems to find the light just at the end. And we found it, but it's just flickering. Still so fragile in mighty gusts of wind. But what will happen is not because of a president or Congress or a court. It will all happen because of you. So don't wait for anybody else. Lead the way. Be the one who chooses faith over fear, courage over conformity, love over hatred. Let's be the ones who. Our words are meaningless, but our action speaks volumes. 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[Glenn Beck]

You seem optimistic.

[Stu Burguiere]

I am optimistic. At the same time, I asked my security, I said, what do you think the odds are of something happening at the inauguration that's really bad? And he said, I can't say. Just the inauguration. Something happening bad in Washington. 50. 50. And it's like, oh, okay.

[Glenn Beck]

Like, it might have nothing to do with inauguration. You might just get mugged.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. I'm like, wow, those are. Those are a lot higher than I thought it would be. But. So I'm optimistic. But I'm. I'm optimistic because I'm seeing great changes there. There is something coming that is good. And I would have described it as Jesus is coming. And it might still be that, but there is a change coming. A fun. We are not just at the end of this era of. Of chaos. I think we're at the end of the era of dismissing God and spirituality and everything else in favor of just cold, hard facts and science and experts. I think there's a. And I hope we don't overcorrect too, too much. But if science can restore itself, science to me, science and faith walk hand in hand. God's a mathematician, the best mathematician. He's not changing math to save us. He's. He changes us to save ourselves. You know what I mean?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I think so.

[Stu Burguiere]

I mean, he set up a very precise system.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes. And he does typically work within it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

Which is something that's. You know, usually those things work together. I feel like.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think so, too. I think so, too.

[Glenn Beck]

I never feel like, well, gosh, this. Science is disagreeing with God.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Tends to work together. But this is also just about boring earthly things, too. I mean, things are gonna get better, hopefully.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I just. Every time I think that they don't. So I'm kind of going the other way.

[Unknown]

This is.

[Stu Burguiere]

Glenn, like, I vote for Jesus, but every time I say who I'm voting for, it doesn't work out. Is that what you're saying? Lear Capital. Look, if Donald Trump reignites the economy in the coming months, and, you know, I don't know if you heard his treasury secretary yesterday. He's got plans to do it. The price of one commodity, oil, could go way down dramatically, and that will reduce everybody's cost of living. I'm looking forward to that. I don't know about you, but which commodity would skyrocket in price? Silver. Silver is an industrial metal, which means it's used in all sorts of electronics, cell phones, TVs, computers. All of these things require more and more silver. And if the economy booms, the demand for all of those items is going to increase. That's why this year Investing Haven predicts silver will test its former all time high of $50 an ounce by moving up to $77 an ounce by the end of this term. That's 140% increase over three years investment. Yeah. Also gold. Protect yourself against a falling $800, 957 gold. 800-957-gold. Call them now.

[Glenn Beck]

BlazeTV's live inauguration coverage on Monday starting at 11am Eastern. You can get $47 off an annual subscription with the promo code GLENN47.

[Stu Burguiere]

Monday 11am Eastern. It will, we will simulcast with this podcast. But the Blaze coverage begins at 11am right in the heart of the nation's capital. We are ushering in the new era, a golden age with Donald J. Trump's second inauguration. Boy, is it different than the last one.

[Glenn Beck]

It does feel different. We mentioned this the other day, that his speech in 2016 was the American carnage speech, known as or just 2017.

[Stu Burguiere]

This is going to be a golden era speech.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. I think it's going to be much more hopeful and optimistic and there's a, I'm a little worried that we're getting too optimistic.

[Stu Burguiere]

I don't know, man.

[Glenn Beck]

I hope so.

[Stu Burguiere]

Have you looked at the, I mean, you've watched them with me all week, the testimony in Congress, with all the people, they are just rock solid. They're like, yeah, Senator, you sound like a hypocrite. And we're not going to do what you say.

[Glenn Beck]

It's definitely a different build of an administration.

[Stu Burguiere]

It is.

[Glenn Beck]

And just, you know, watching all the coverage on Monday and entering into this new era, this is the one, 2017, it felt like there were still excuses. Right. He's still learning. He's talked about it, learning how to work the system. He doesn't have that now. He's going in with full knowledge. So this should be, I mean, my hopes are high, which always makes me nervous.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. Well, we're gonna be right just past the bridge that the Kennedy funeral happened right behind the Lincoln Memorial. And so we'll be broadcasting from there. Stu and I will be there Monday along with several guests taking us through what is going to happen on that day, what to expect that day. And we'll just hopefully be outside of the mushroom cloud zone because we'll be on the other side of the river and depending on the size of, you know, what China decides to do, you know, or Iran or Russia or really any of our enemies, whatever, will be on the other side of the river. So we'll be the last to be vaporized. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

You'll hear a good half second of coverage as the blast goes across the river. Yeah, like, oh my God, you'll get all that coverage.

[Stu Burguiere]

Don't look at the flat. It's weird because, because really, I mean, there are going to be so many people there. Did you know that Donald Trump. I'm going to go over this on Monday. Donald Trump is not relying on the Secret Service.

[Glenn Beck]

What do you mean?

[Stu Burguiere]

He's hired a private company in addition to the Secret. In addition to the Secret. Yeah, he's not relying on the Secret Service exclusively. Yeah, he's, he's got the Secret Service. They're doing everything. But he has a private company. I don't know how many agents. It's massive. And this private company is going to do additional body surf, body coverage on him. He's appointed ahead of his own personal team. Now, outside of the Secret Service, what.

[Glenn Beck]

Would make him do something like that?

[Stu Burguiere]

A couple of assassination attempts maybe?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

But they have already gone over 48 kilometers, I think, looking for bombs and everything. I mean, he, he is dead serious about this. He should be as I would be.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, I don't even know how the, how on earth can you secure an event. Like I very much can understand how you would secure a field in Pennsylvania. That I can totally understand. Something like this.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. Something Washington D.C. i mean, I have absolutely no idea. But they're going to have not only Secret Service helicopters, military helicopters, but also private, his private security helicopters going over everything, double checking absolutely everything. They're going to be the ones that you're going to see at the metal detectors. It won't just be Secret Service, it will also be his personal team. If you're going into one of the balls, I mean, it's, it's quite amazing what he has done.

[Glenn Beck]

I have so many questions about the security. I feel like I sh. We shouldn't ask any of them though, because I don't want to know any of the answers. But it's just like it seems almost impossible. You have security experts around you all the time. Obviously you have security on a day to day basis. And these guys have secured, I mean, I've talked to some of your security guys as they're sitting at the super bowl with the most famous people in the world. Right. It's that Type of security and.

[Brad Meltzer]

I'm.

[Glenn Beck]

Sure they have a plan and I'm sure there are a lot of things to look for and there's a lot of technology that's useful and there's a lot you can do. But man, when you're talking about just basically opening up a city, how do you secure something like that? The only thing that could even make any sense to me was when we did the event in Washington D.C. back in the day. What was it called? Restoring something. We restored something that day, honor that day. And it was 500,000 people there. And it's like you just look around just like I know our guys are doing the best possible that they can do, but there's. How do you secure it? You've brought an entire mid level city onto a field. I know, like, I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, it was, it was quite intense.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And I remember behind the scenes like those guys were, I mean, they were incredible.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

But also it's just, it seems like a task that's, it's like when I take out a new piece of furniture, the building, it, putting it together seems like a task too difficult to actually accomplish and it just teeters for.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. The problem is, is when you have the money of the federal government, they rely on money, you know what I mean? They just like throw more money at it, just put more people there, just put different machines there instead of really thinking it through. And that's what I think private people do much better, Much better because they're using their brains. Anyway, we're going to be there. All star cast of Blaze TV's brightest political minds. Beyond location for the swearing in ceremonies of our 47th president. Ali Stuckey is going to be there. Matthew Peterson, Chris Bedford, Steve Baker. Uh, Steve, it's an important day for Steve Baker on Monday.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it sure is.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's hoping for a presidential pardon. He is the reporter at the Blaze that was reporting. Reporting and charged with what? What was he charged? It wasn't just parading, it was like.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, anyway, I don't remember the exact charges, but he was, he was basically just. I mean he is literally on video for every second he's inside the Capitol. He is reporting, yeah, 100%. He's not chanting, he's not breaking windows, he's not hitting police officers, just reporting they charged him anyway. The pardon I think will come, but I mean you don't know until he's in there and he does it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Julio Rosas, I don't know how he get why. Maybe he volunteers for These things. But he's going to be embedded with the protests. There's many protests that are planned and those could get really ugly, but he's going to be embedded with the protest and deliver real time updates on that. Our special coverage as a preview to Blaze Media Live inauguration event Monday, 11am that is the last hour of the broadcast, so it will be a simulcast right on radio.

[Glenn Beck]

So if you're listening to this program, you'll hear it as we lead into the actual inauguration coverage, which kind of starts right as this show ends. So it's gonna be. It's gonna be intense. I've never been to one of these before. Have you been to a.

[Stu Burguiere]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

Never.

[Stu Burguiere]

Never.

[Glenn Beck]

You have never been to.

[Stu Burguiere]

No.

[Brad Meltzer]

Really?

[Stu Burguiere]

Never.

[Glenn Beck]

Is that because all of the previous presidents elected hated your guts?

[Stu Burguiere]

Hated my guts. Hated my guts. No, I've never really. I've never had a desire to go.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, you know, I was kind of that way.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. I was talking to my wife. She was making cheese sandwiches last night. I'm like, your husband is taking you to inaugural ball. You're making me cheese sandwiches? Really? And I'm joking with her. Really? We can't get something a little better than a cheese sandwich?

[Glenn Beck]

First of all, cheese sandwiches are delicious.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, she made it with. They were grilled cheese sandwiches with tomato soup, which is. Oh, my gosh, unbelievable. So anyway, I was joking with her. Yeah. And she said, she said, ooh, the inaugural ball. And mocking is mocking. I just love her so much because she is so not impressed with anything. I think I could be a monster if it wasn't for her just beating me down all the time, just going, oh, you're impressive. Yeah. Oh, you talked to who today?

[Glenn Beck]

It's true. And she. And she is that way. And you definitely need it. But yeah, also, it is pretty cool.

[Stu Burguiere]

No, she, like, we talked about that. We were like, it is kind of cool. It's kind of cool. History. Yeah. At this point, this is the only one that I've ever wanted to go to. I mean, if I could have gone to Reagan's, I would have wanted to go to Reagan's. But this is the only one that I, I wanted to go to because I think it is the beginning of a new era. This is. And it's up to us, gang. God did his part. I can't say this enough. God did his part. Turning of the head, bullet behind. Incredible. Still cannot believe that that was a miracle. God did his part. The part we couldn't do. Now the rest of it is kind of on Our shoulders. He's like, okay, I gave you another. You know, gave you another. No pun intended. I'm sorry. It should be more like, no pun intended. I gave you another shot. But Joe Biden. But. But it's up to us now and what we do with this. We have the best opportunity in my lifetime to set this right and to re. Embrace truth. It's going to be hard, but it's up to us. I'm excited.

[Glenn Beck]

That's the most important thing you can do. The second most important thing you can do is go to Blazetv.com Glenn use the promo code Glenn 47 so listen.

[Stu Burguiere]

To God is one. That's one. That's one. Clearly one.

[Glenn Beck]

Right to Blazetv.com Glenn the code is Glenn 47. They're giving you $47 off your annual subscription.

[Stu Burguiere]

Wow.

[Glenn Beck]

I will say it's supporting. I think one of the reasons, and it's part of the whole God picture, I think. But one of the reasons why this has happened is there were independent media institutions that could push back against that.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's the media institutions that. I mean, remember when we started the Blaze, everyone said this was crazy.

[Glenn Beck]

It was. I know, it was statistically crazy.

[Stu Burguiere]

This started the ball rolling down this road. That where, you know, when I was at tps, TP USA in Phoenix, all of the podcasters, all of, you know, Daily Wire and everything like that, we were all there and we were all in the hallway. And when I got on stage, I said, I just want you to recognize how much has changed. Ten, 12 years ago, there was no one in that hallway. Now that hallway has more power and a bigger, more impressive reach and credibility than all of the mainstream media combined. That's incredible.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it really is.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, it's. The audience has made a big difference in this country. We've talked about it many, many times. But this is another way that they have.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. And, you know, we want to keep bringing you these things and we need your support. So please join us. Blazetv.com Glenn use the promo code glenn47blazetv.com Glenn Use the promo code glenn47 Good job. Don't want to miss the coverage beginning on Monday.

[Brad Meltzer]

Got it.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

Thank you.

[Glenn Beck]

Good job. That's Radio hall of Fame right there.

[Stu Burguiere]

Started, you know, when we decided to induct Glenn Beck. It's because he could read his URL correctly about 20 of the time. Oh, yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I was gonna say, if you could do it correctly, it would have been a lot. You would have been there 20 years ago, at least.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm not, you know, go to URL.

[Glenn Beck]

On your way back from Ghana. Go to URL.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes. All right, start of the new year. Great time to think about new types of emergency situations. That's what I always like to do. You know, let's take some of the danger out of commission here when you have to. Well, let me tell you this story. Burner launcher was designed and started by a guy who was in his car. And there was this guy who was just road raging behind him. And he tried to get a away from him. He tried to slow down and let him pass. The guy wouldn't. And so he's like, you know what, I'm just going to pull over the side of the road and he'll pass me and blah, blah, blah. Nope, nope. The guy stopped and got out of his car. Now that's when I get, that's when I just put my car and drive, and drive away. But he was like, okay, well we're just going to talk it out. And he had a gun. He's a second amendment lover. He had a gun in his glove box. He went to open his glove box and he thought, no, that might end. I'm not willing to kill this guy, you know. And he said that was the biggest mistake of his life because the guy beat him within an inch of his life. He still wouldn't want to killed him, you know, until the beating started. But he had nothing. So he came up with the burner launcher, which is the best non lethal alternative to safeguarding yourself, your car, your family, your home, whatever it is. You can hit them with pepper spray or tear gas, a kinetic round. And it looks like the biggest damn gun. When you look down the barrel of this thing, it looks enormous and it looks just like a gun. And it's legal in all 50 states. You don't need to have any background checks. It's sent right directly to your home. This guy learned from experience. He invented this because of his experience. Don't go through that yourself. Have one in your glove box. Byrna B R N A.com Glenn Berna.com Glenn.

[Unknown]

You ever seen a liberal's hands smoother than a snake on oil? Guess they're more worried about the meaning of the word female than the word work. Glenn Beck will be right back.

[Stu Burguiere]

You know, we're just talking off air about security for the President and Stu just said something. You know, they've already tried it twice and you know, using the word they, I think it, it has been almost a deep state kind of hypnosis thing that made people want to kill Donald Trump. You know, it's the media and the deep state and all the grapp. The crap that they were pushing out. But if you look through history, it's either Marxist or quite honestly, people on the Palestinian cause that shoot or try to shoot presidents. And I think. I don't know if the deep state would still be trying to. If they ever did, because that would just be you. You'd usher in things like the Great Society Bill, except in reverse. You would make Donald Trump, John F. Kennedy, maybe. Plus, plus, plus, because nobody believed the conspiracy back then. Everyone would believe the conspiracy, and he was the guy trying to dismantle the state and the attitude, which. The worst thing the left could do is try to take him out.

[Glenn Beck]

From their perspective and from ours. Yes, but from their perspective, it would be a big backfire. That being said, I have no, no confidence at all in their ability to restrain themselves. I mean, they've obviously shown. I hope you're wrong already during the campaign. I really do hope so. I just pray that the security is there.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. I think. I think the problem is the lunatic fringe.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

You know, the smart ones are going to go hibernate. They're going to do what they did during Reagan and that. We've got to watch that because they're going to reevaluate and say, okay, what did we miss this time?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And what do we build to defeat it next time?

[Stu Burguiere]

Yep, Yep.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, you're right. The smart left will do that. There is that activist left.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's crazy.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. I don't know, man.

[Stu Burguiere]

And scary. If they try that, you will see. You will see a small government Republican in office for the next 20 years and with Congress and the Senate as well.

[Unknown]

This is Glenn. Down the road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire.

[Stu Burguiere]

The.

[Unknown]

Fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program.

[Stu Burguiere]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad that you're here. Thank you so much for listening. We've got a packed show for you today. Brad Meltzer is coming in in about an hour. He's going to be talking about some conspiracies. And I. I specifically want to hit the latest on. On LBJ being the killer of Kennedy. Did you hear that tape yet, Stu? It's crazy. LGBT Johnson, LBJ actually talking to the head at that time of the Democratic Party about, you know, I think he went. I think he went too far. Lyndon. It's Incredible. Whether it's true or not, I don't know. But our good friend Brad Meltzer is part of the committee at the National Archives. And this is the kind of stuff he really thrives to talk about and thrives at researching. We're going to talk to him about his new book and some conspiracies that may come undone and be exposed here in the next few months. First, let me tell you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Our commercial sponsor, anti Semitism, is alive and well in the world, and it would be nice not to say that, but we knew it was coming. It always comes whenever Marxism raises its ugly head. You know, the world hasn't really gotten done experiencing the effects of the Holocaust and actually gotten to a place where they're like, yes, we all know it happened. And here we are witnessing the aftermath of another attack on the Jewish people by a group that hates them. That's one of the many reasons I've partnered with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And we're coming up on January 27th, which is Holocaust Remembrance Day. And the fellowship is doing their part not only in helping to remember, but in providing food, shelter and safety to Jews in Israel and around the world, including those remaining Holocaust survivors. Will you please help donate to them? You'll be helping to provide food, water, medicine and other basic necessities to Jewish communities. In a world that holds a lot of darkness for the Jewish people, you can be part of the light shining out from the Christian world. To our brothers and sisters. Give a gift to show your support of the Jewish people by visiting supportifcj.org that's one word. Supportifcj.org or call 888-488-IFCJ. 888-488-IFCj. Well, you know, it's. It's interesting to me that out of all of the things that President Biden has done over the last few weeks, the one thing he didn't do is follow through on the ban of TikTok. One last favor for China. You know, he's leaving that one for Trump. Interesting, isn't it?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Yeah. He's not going to enforce it for the 24 hours that I guess he could enforce it and just leave it to Trump.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, why not? Why not?

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know what he. I don't know what he would do exactly. I mean, it would obviously could be whatever he does could be changed by Trump in 24 hours. I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

But that hasn't stopped him.

[Glenn Beck]

No, he doesn't care. I mean, he's been trying to.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's like, I'm gonna replace all the pictures of George Washington with Karl Marx.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't.

[Brad Meltzer]

What's your.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, I guess what's your current position on the TikTok thing? Because obviously Trump has had both positions. He wanted it banned. Now he does not want it banned. He's trying to reverse it. Trump is trying everything he can to make sure this doesn't go through. You will. By the way, if you're watching, you will see the TikTok CEO at the inauguration in the front row, apparently.

[Stu Burguiere]

I will tell you that I have a. I have a hard time with this ban because it's not specific enough. All you would need to do is say anything that is owned or controlled by the Communist Party of China or any hostile nation and get very specific. The way it's worded is a lit. Has a little. Few too many loopholes in it.

[Glenn Beck]

I agree with you. Like, when you come down to the very dirty specifics of the law, it's a little weird. And I go back and forth a little bit in my own head when you go back and consider both sides of this, because I don't really like the idea of the government coming in and shutting down companies, even if they are foreign companies. I don't like the idea that a bunch of people, despite the fact it is literally the worst content that's ever been created, a bunch of people went out and started a job and created their dream. And now all of a sudden, the rug's being pulled out from under them by the government. I don't like that. On the other hand, you know, the Chinese government does not have First Amendment rights.

[Stu Burguiere]

And they're a hostile nation.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, they're a hostile nation.

[Stu Burguiere]

If you look at. You look at Germany, IBM went into Germany. And I mean, it is the punch card system that IBM provided that helped round up all the Jews. It's the reason why when they would take a census and figure out who's where, it was IBM that could crunch all those numbers and say, here are all the addresses of the Jews.

[Glenn Beck]

The book, IBM and the Holocaust.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. You know, and we tried to stop them, and they just kept skirting it. Coca Cola finally was said, finally told, no more Coca Cola, no more in Germany. And that's not something that is, you know, political in any way. That's not helping the Germans. But they. I mean, and they skirted around it as well.

[Glenn Beck]

Do you know the same thing happened in Russia?

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Like, all those companies pulled out. And like, now there's just a bunch of places that sell hamburgers with golden arches.

[Stu Burguiere]

No, I know, but that's not what this is that. When have you ever had Fanta? Yeah. Okay. Coca Cola product, right?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

Orange. Do you know why Fanta exists?

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, I don't know. No.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

So Coca Cola was told to talk about this once.

[Glenn Beck]

What is it? What is this?

[Stu Burguiere]

They. They were told shut down all your operations. Okay. And they have the Coca Cola bottling companies. All right? And so as they're shutting down and saying, you can't make Coke anymore, they're saying, what do you have access to in Germany? Give us all of the ingredients you could possibly muster en masse. And the guys in Atlanta came up and said, oh, you can make orange soda. So Fanta is the Nazi drink, really? It really is.

[Brad Meltzer]

It is.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's what Coca Cola made. So the Coca Cola bottling company would still be selling product under Nazi rule.

[Glenn Beck]

Should be clear. The current Fanta is not the Nazi drink. For all those people out there, I.

[Stu Burguiere]

Mean, maybe because they forgot, maybe Nazis were like old Fanta. I forgot how much I love Fanta.

[Glenn Beck]

I just don't think that that's where their advertising is going these days.

[Stu Burguiere]

No, it's not.

[Glenn Beck]

It's not.

[Stu Burguiere]

Hey, Aryans, try this great. Try this great orange drink.

[Glenn Beck]

But a lot of these companies, I mean, you've talked about many of them that have historical basis, you know, in that conflict. And did things bear. Yeah, yeah. Was it Hugo Boss? Was it with the uniform?

[Stu Burguiere]

Hugo Boss made the uniforms. But they're German.

[Glenn Beck]

Right. It makes more sense.

[Stu Burguiere]

So. But here's the thing. First of all, TikTok, if you ban them, they're just going to find a way. They'll just find a way to do it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. You know, it's interesting because we've talked about that. Yeah. Because in theory, what this law would do was what I talked about the other day. It would prevent you from downloading new people, of downloading it from the App Store, and it would prevent them from having updates. From downloading updates, but it would still theoretically work. What TikTok is basically threatening is we're just pulling the plug. Like, they're trying to pressure America from changing this. So they're saying we're just gonna turn it off completely. You're gonna go there and see a message that you can't access this. So the law doesn't specifically stop them. It doesn't actually ban TikTok. However, TikTok's essentially enforcing a ban on themselves.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Because they're trying to send a message and hoping it will change the policy.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, you. I mean, boy, how many. How many kids and how many adults would be screaming to high heaven if TikTok is off?

[Glenn Beck]

Right. And that's what their plan is and.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. And that's why. That's why Joe Biden didn't turn it off. Donald Trump doesn't want to turn it off.

[Glenn Beck]

No one wants to get blamed. Nobody wants the entire generation.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. However, this is different. They are. I mean, first of all, they would never run the same algorithm in China. Never.

[Glenn Beck]

They don't even allow the app in China.

[Stu Burguiere]

They allow TikTok in China. No. Well, they have a version of it, but it's only for positive things that uplift people. And it also has a timer on it. You use it for more than, like, an hour a day, and it shuts off for you. Do you know that?

[Glenn Beck]

It's amazing.

[Stu Burguiere]

They don't let you get addicted to it. I mean, look, what they're doing here.

[Glenn Beck]

They want to do is addict our people. As I was talking about this, I was talking to just people around here, and, you know, they're just like, God, you're not gonna. Oh, man, I don't know what's gonna happen on Sunday. My wife, all she does all day is just scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Video after video after video after video for, like. That is not a healthy way to build a society, boys and girls. It's really a bad idea, but it's true. And I think a lot of people will. Now, look, there's plenty of other dumb entertainment out there. Like, yeah, but it's different.

[Stu Burguiere]

I don't know if you're like this, like, I am. I. It drives me nuts when I'm talking to somebody who's addicted to TikTok. And they're like, look at this. This is funny. Okay, you do that once, but then it's like five minutes later. Did you know this? Look at this.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, my God.

[Stu Burguiere]

And then two minutes later, oh, my gosh, look at this. None of them are related. All of them have to be consumed. All of them are the most important thing of that second. And I. I cannot have a conversation with you. There's. I can't. I can't deal with your crisis or your hilarity of 10 seconds.

[Glenn Beck]

Yep. It's dipping your brain in acid.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

That's all it is. And it's true. It's really hard to talk to someone when. Because half your conversations are, look at this video. And then of course, the experience of watching the video is terrible. They pull it up. There's all the controls of the video are all over the screen. It starts too late, the audio's not on. They gotta scroll back, then scroll back again. So it starts again. It drives me freaking crazy.

[Stu Burguiere]

I hate it.

[Glenn Beck]

But it is like this is a giant chunk of a whole generation. Basically is like. It's like the Matrix, right? Like you're connected to the Matrix. Whatever slop they're putting into you keeps.

[Stu Burguiere]

You're alive.

[Glenn Beck]

You just, you know, that's a barely. But you're right. And when that turns off, I think it will be something. Now look, you can go to reels and get the same dumb feed.

[Stu Burguiere]

I mean, I'm on Instagram, I find myself, you know, just scroll, you know, I see something and I'm like, oh, wow, I gotta watch that. Blah, blah, blah, YouTube shorts. Yeah, even X. And you just start. You just go down this rabbit hole.

[Glenn Beck]

And it does nothing for you.

[Stu Burguiere]

Nothing. That being said, empty calories, like crazy. That is.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh my worst.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. I mean, I think there's value in junk food, but not this junk food. This is junk food for the brain. And it has no nutritional value. None.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, and you might, as you point out, might occasionally catch something of value, but you're forced to watch all this other stuff, right?

[Stu Burguiere]

And once you start going down that, you find yourself 45 minutes later watching.

[Glenn Beck]

Cat videos, if you're lucky.

[Stu Burguiere]

If you're lucky.

[Glenn Beck]

If it's not just like a. Assaults and people being burned alive and God only knows what you could end up on. This is sort of separate from the conversation generally because I think it's such an inherent evil. Not just TikTok, by the way. I think a lot of this stuff is in here. Oh yeah, Read the Jonathan Haidt book.

[Stu Burguiere]

Read it.

[Glenn Beck]

Read it to see what's happening to your kids. I can't encourage it enough. If you have kids, read that book and you'll see and hopefully read it before your kids are already on these services because they'll hate your guts if you try to take it away from them once they're on it. But if you get that ahead of time, you can try to prevent as much of the damage as possible. You can't do it completely. And I don't think there's a way to ban it completely. I think we have to figure out a way to deal with it.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think we're already seeing. This is. First of all, we didn't get to the News yet. Supreme Court has upheld the TikTok ban.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes. So in theory it's going away. When this happened in India, India banned it in 2020. TikTok and TikTok just, they on their own turned it off and were like, we're going dark. And so it's been dark since 2020 in India.

[Stu Burguiere]

If India can do it.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, if India can do it. And I think like here that probably will happen and there will be a massive revolt and we'll see what happens after that. You know, I don't know what the end of that is, but think of the information they have, Glenn.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, I know.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, think of the, you know, like let's say you have a messaging app or something. You know, some, you have some level of private contact or information. I mean, you're getting all this information. TikTok, they're very, very invasive with everything else you're doing. Not necessarily just on the app itself, but other things you're doing. They get that information. The Chinese government is holding it. What are they going to do with that? Eight years from now when you're the president of a company, what is it? What are they going to do with that information? You know, 20 years from now when you're running for Senate, God only knows what the. What is going to be the long term echo of us handing over a generation of our citizens to the Chinese Communist Party. Does this sound like a good idea to anyone?

[Stu Burguiere]

It sounds like the same idea of, oh man, iPhones are going to change your life for the better. You're going to be freer, you're going to be. Have more time, you're going to. No.

[Glenn Beck]

But at least there was.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Glenn Beck]

A thought that that could be true.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes. There's no way, there's no value going.

[Glenn Beck]

To be valuable to us.

[Stu Burguiere]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

So from that perspective, I think it's horrible. I want like, I want it to go away the worst way possible. You know, there could be issues with this law and you know, the courts are going to have to just it out. But like the Supreme Court said today, they're upholding it.

[Stu Burguiere]

Okay, so let me come back in a minute because I want to talk to you about. I, you know, I started the show today that this is the end of an era. We are at the beginning of the end of this last era. And it may even be an epic. You know, it might be something much bigger than just an era. And I want to talk to you about that because I think the solution may be coming naturally to people. I'll start there Here in just a second. First, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. I love businesses that don't hate my gut. You know, it's weird quirk that I have. You know, maybe you're, you know, like, I just want to spend my money with people who are trying to destroy me and my family. How can I give them more? I don't. That's why I do business with Patriot Mobile. You know, Patriot Mobile is going to be everywhere this weekend. I bet you there. I bet you the stories are up on the, the dais, you know, behind the president when he's being sworn in. Because these people do so much for our values and are so instrumental in all of our local and state stuff. It's really an amazing company. Patriot Mobile is going to give you the same exact coverage. They're going to save you money. They have better service. It's all American. They are the only Christian conservative phone company out there. And they take the money and they pour it back in to the things that we believe in, trying to Strengthen America. Patriot mobile.com/beck or call 972-patriot patriot mobile.com/back 972 Patriot. You get a free month of service when you switch. Start doing business with the people that like you, like your values, want to uphold the values just as much as you do. Promo code back patriot mobile.com/back972 patriot 10 seconds. Station ID. So you remember, Stu, about eight, nine years ago, I told you I had read a story about autism. And it was a, it was a theory of one guy who said, I think the autistic may be ushering in a new kind of form of people because information is happening so fast and the autistic are just, they're so different and they consume things differently and see things differently. Okay. And I thought it was an interesting theory, but there is a podcast a friend turned me on to yesterday and I listened to like eight episodes. I'm like driving around, it's like quiet. Called the telepathy tapes. Have you heard about this?

[Glenn Beck]

No.

[Stu Burguiere]

There is something going on with the non verbal autistic and the nonverbal autistic are. They've always been thought of as, you know, idiots and they're never going to think of anything, you know, and they'll never, they'll never talk and they'll, they're just idiots. So imagine these guys, you know, for 20 years of their life being talked to like Stephen Hawking would have been talked to before he got a pad to write. And the parents started to See things happening in their kids that they couldn't explain, that they would, they would say they can read my mind. And then teachers started to see these non verbals as being able to mind, read their mind. And they started doing, you know, some non scientific testing, just parents, because nobody believed them. And so they started doing some non scientific testing and they were like, I'm telling you, my kid can read my mind. And he has knowledge and language that he never learned. He knows history, history that he never learned, that I didn't even learn. And they were expressing it through their tablets. They could write and spell, but they were, they were writing and spelling words that like some of the parents had to look up. And they wrote to this one doctor and this one doctor started getting, because they were online and saying, look, I think there's more to nonverbal autistic kids. I think there's something going on. And so people started, all over the world started writing in going, I know this sounds crazy, but I think this child of mine can read my mind. And this doctor started getting all these letters from all over the world, all saying the same thing about their children. So they did a scientific study on it. And this track, the telepathy tapes, it tracks these kids. And what they found is phenomenal. And they take you through the, you know, the kid is sitting in the other room. It's a random word generator, picture generator, number generator. The mom is in the other room, the kids in this room, and it generates and she just looks at it and the kid will say, it's a pig one. You know, 4,171,123 95% of the time. And it's not just one kid, it's kids all over the world, okay? And they don't understand. They're kind to the place of like, why would somebody talk? You just communicate like this. And they, they know things. And this is where it gets really interesting. They're all these kids talked privately about going to the Hill and playing with friends. In their mind, parents thought, well, maybe not so much. I'll continue the story in just a second.

[Unknown]

This is Glenn Beck.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, yeah, it's Friday. The very last broadcast of this administration's full day. Oh my gosh.

[Glenn Beck]

I hadn't thought of it that way.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is it.

[Glenn Beck]

That is incredible.

[Stu Burguiere]

We're through it. We made it.

[Glenn Beck]

Don't you dare say something like that. We've got a couple more days and part of another show right where we're still.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, we're gonna be at the inauguration and covering it for you on Monday. The live Blaze TV coverage will begin on Monday at 11 simulcast with this podcast and radio show. So you don't want to miss it. We have all kinds of guests and everything else and we'll be there.

[Glenn Beck]

By the way, Blazetv.com glenn the code glenn47. It's a special thing. They're running right for the inauguration. So check that out. 47 bucks off.

[Stu Burguiere]

So I want to get into what we were talking about. I was just, just getting into something called the Telepathy tapes that I started listening to yesterday and I'm already eight episodes down. Wow. I mean I'm just rabbit hole, but they're very careful on laying everything out so you just don't roll your eyes and it goes to something bigger that Stu and I were just talking about on the air that today and Monday I'm just not going to have the time to do justice to. So would you write down telepathy tapes and likable hippies and end of an era.

[Glenn Beck]

She's currently writing down the words likable hippies.

[Stu Burguiere]

I know. I hate hippies. I hate hippies. But there are a few non Marxist authentic hippies that I think I might like you, in theory, it's.

[Glenn Beck]

Hippies is not. I mean, it's. They wouldn't like the word.

[Stu Burguiere]

No, they wouldn't like the word.

[Glenn Beck]

But I know what you're saying.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's what they are. All right, in the meantime, there is a documentary that is showing the real history of the California wildfires and no major distributors would take it. Netflix, HBO said, no, no, no, no, we can't do that. The documentary is called Hotshot. The director and cinematographer is Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann and he's on with us now. Gabriel, how are you, sir?

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

I'm fabulous, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me on.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, I love, I love the fact that hbo, Netflix, everybody said no, you're not talking enough about climate change, right?

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

Oh yeah. And look, it's been a surreal experience. You know this well enough. Hollywood has been entirely captured by wokeness. And I think this is why they keep recycling the same garbage that nobody likes. So I made this film in a very unconventional way. I just spent six years just walking into these wildfires with a couple of cameras and I embedded directly with the hotshot crews to get their point of view. And look, the visuals are insane and I think that's what got us in the door with Netflix and hbo. But in the film, we gloss over the climate change thing and say, look, had horrible fires for centuries.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

And the worst ones were actually way back in 1871 during, you know, the optimal climate. So obvious your SUV doesn't matter. And because we didn't sufficiently mess our drawers about climate change, they balked at it and they wanted us to recut the whole film to be more about climate change. But I'm not going to lie. So I refused to cut it. They told me to kick rocks. So I just made a template website, released it myself. And it's been entirely a grassroots effort. And, and look, it's insanely difficult when you're competing against these massive studios. The film, it's actually become the number one rated firefighter film of all time.

[Stu Burguiere]

That's an amazing movie, but it just.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

Shows you how self destructive this woke epidemic is for Hollywood. They're shooting themselves in the foot. Like, how do you turn down a profitable film just because you're mad that it didn't sufficiently validate your dogmatic ideology? It's crazy.

[Stu Burguiere]

So you know, it's yesterday. Did you hear this, Stu? Donald Trump said Jon Voight, Sylvester Stallone and Mel Gibson are now Special envoys for the President to try to fix Hollywood. And I'm like, I don't know how you could fix Hollywood. I think it's being fixed on its own because they're just, they're just, they're gonna end in a giant ball of fire like California is. You can't, you can't keep up this kind of policy that is completely unhooked from common sense and reality and expect to succeed in anything, in any way.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

100% right. And frankly, I think there is a massively underserved market of people. Oh yeah, they don't even need, they don't need right wing movies to balance out the commie movies. They just want good movies back. Just don't lecture me. Just give me 90s Hollywood. When we had Jurassic park and Saving Private Ryan and all these good flicks with no agenda, like, that's what we were aiming to do. Just to try to inform honestly and trust that our audience is smart enough to come up with their own conclusions and let them enjoy the picture on their own. I think the rational wing of America is responding very positively to that. And I think if more filmmakers go that route, they can have success outside of the system.

[Stu Burguiere]

So one of the things that's in Hotshot, the movie that you've released online, is the difference between California and Florida. And Florida has very few forest fires. It's hot there, too. What's the difference?

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

Well, not only is it hot there, but all that rain just creates more fuels. Florida is very flammable. But back in 19, in the late 1990s, they had a huge wildfire outbreak. Destroyed a bunch of homes, destroyed the timber industry, and it cost them a fortune. So they made a very rational conclusion. How much did 500,000 acres of wildfire cost us? And how much would it cost us to proactively burn that with prescribed fire? What they found out is that that one wildfire outbreak they could have afforded to do 60 years of prescribed fire.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, my gosh.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

And so they decided, okay, we're going to do that. And every year they proactively burn 2 million acres every single year. In one year, Florida proactively burns more than California has burned in the last 50 years. They need to burn between 4 to 11 million acres every year just to keep up with that growth that keeps coming out of the ground. They're only doing like 36,000 a year. And four years ago, five years ago now, Gavin Newsom stepped over burnt corpses on sacred tribal land to promise that he was going to burn a million acres A year, he still hasn't come remotely close to doing it. Everyone focuses on how the government let people down during the firefight. I can tell you, once fires on the ground with conditions like that, there's nothing you can do. The real betrayal came and in the last years and months when they refused to get rid of these fuels.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's just common sense. And it also fires renew the soil, it makes the new growth stronger. It is so natural to do it. And I don't understand why the powers to be and the so called land scientists and everything else, how they don't understand that I'm an alcoholic DJ and I've known that my whole life.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

Well, look, in order to fix a problem, you have to first accept that you have agency over the problem. And they refuse to do that. Except in this, like really convoluted Rube Goldberg climate change kind of where they think if you just add more solar panels or buy more Teslas, that the weather will change and then the fires will stop. But look, no amount of Teslas is going to make the weather less angry. You just need to accept it and clear your brush. What's double frustrating is these things aren't mutually exclusive. You don't even have to abandon the climate change fantasy. You just have to accept that none of the climate policies will do a darn thing for wildfires. Not one like, ever. But you can prevent tomorrow's wildfire right now. And like you said, not only do the fires replenish the soil. Look, the ecosystem out west is dependent on fire. A lot of trees cannot even reproduce unless the pine, pine cone burns to release and germinate the seed. So to try to defy this natural process is insanity.

[Stu Burguiere]

Let me ask you the California. Where are you from, Gabriel?

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

I was born and raised in Los Angeles. Palisades actually, specifically.

[Stu Burguiere]

Wow. So I get this question all the time. Do you think California is going to wake up and learn their lesson? Do you think they learned their lesson? I don't know. Do they?

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

No. Never. Dan Bongino always asks us like, is it bad enough yet? It's not bad enough yet. And you know, I love Adam Carolla's rant the other day, but nothing's going to change. Like, if I thought they were capable of changing, I wouldn't have left the state for Tennessee. But Nothing changed after 85 people were killed in paradise. Sean Penn lost his Malibu mansion to a fire in 1993, then rebuilt it, nearly lost again in another fire in 2018. And all he does is blame you for the car that you drive. So look, I don't think it's going to change because like I said, you have to accept that you have agency over the problem. If you keep putting it on climate, it's the most disempower narrative you could possibly have because it creates this learned helplessness. Nothing is going to change. So, look, man, I don't know how you can expect anyone to make a real change if they refuse to accept the real world.

[Stu Burguiere]

Let me. Let me play some of the clips from the movie. Clip three from Hotshot cut number six. Even though their fire season is only June to November, she has to train all year to stay in shape. There are no bonus points for abs. It's a different kind of fitness. Justine doesn't have any illusions about the female's physicality. She has to put in extra work to keep up with the fellas. This is real life, not a gender studies class. If you can't get up the hill, you die.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

If you can't drive the buggy through.

[Stu Burguiere]

The fire, when goes sideways, your whole crew dies. You gotta be durable. And as a squad boss, she's overhead. And she has to earn their trust and respect.

[Glenn Beck]

The only way to do that is to outwork them.

[Stu Burguiere]

And what's more humbling than having a.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

Girl pass you on the hill?

[Stu Burguiere]

I have to tell you, they had to have gone crazy on things like that. But that's the truth.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

They lost their mind over that one.

[Stu Burguiere]

That.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

That actually may have doomed us more than the climate. Look, I just. Dude, it's just reality. Like those of us who live in reality, except the simple truth that, look, if you're 120 pounds, your pack weighs 70 pounds, you got to work three times as hard as someone like me. I weigh 230 pounds.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right?

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

It's just reality. And the thing is, I would think that framing it that way, saying that a gal has to work three times harder, that that honors their service. But they look at it as like, oh, no, everyone can do the same thing. So if you're saying you have to work three times as hard, that means you're demeaning, like, no, it's the opposite. That's how upside down woke Hollywood is. It's like, we really need to. Everyone in my industry needs to disabuse ourselves of all this, like, delicate political stuff, because normal people watch that clip in particular and just go, yeah, yeah, that sounds right. And that is the reality.

[Stu Burguiere]

Where can you find it now? Can I just go ahead.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

Yeah. We made a website called hotshotmovie.com you can support us directly there. But you know, if you don't, if it's more convenient, you don't mind giving Jeff Bezos a pound of flesh. It's also on Amazon, Apple, Google Play, and Voodoo.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, he's losing so much money with the Washington Post that maybe, I don't know, maybe you should throw him a bone. I don't know. I think I would go to hotshotmovie.com. thank you so much, Gabriel. I appreciate it. God bless.

[Gabriel Kirkpatrick Mann]

Thank you so much.

[Stu Burguiere]

You bet. All right.

[Glenn Beck]

By the way, beautiful, beautiful movie. I mean, it looks, I have not seen it yet, but I got to watch this. It looks incredible.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, we're just, if you happen to be watching the Blaze, you'll, you'll, you're, you're seeing California's Blaze.

[Glenn Beck]

It's not a half assed effort. This is like legitimate. Like you don't have full documentary.

[Stu Burguiere]

You don't have people say it's better than Backdraft. Yeah, Backdraft was stunning. Stunning. All right, let me tell you about Cozy Earth. You know, you come home at the end of the day and if you're like me, you just want comfy clothes. My wife is like, okay, I'm getting comfy clothes. Close. And you want, your house is someplace to recharge. You want it to be soft and gentle and a place where you can just kind of hang out with your family and laugh. And Cozy Earth has that attitude. They want you to concentrate on the 5pm to 9am time of your life and take care of that and, and look at that differently. Cozy Earth has been featured on Oprah's Favorite Things seven times. It is luxury that is affordable. Emphasis, however, is on the word luxury. I want to also say affordable because they're giving you a 40% discount if you use the promo code Beck Cozy Earth. They make, they make great pajamas, luxury loungewear. The sheets are, are, I mean, the kind of stuff that you would only find it literally five and six star hotels, but it's affordable with that 40% discount. Cozyearth.com Beck Luxury cozy earth. Cozyearth.com beck.

[Unknown]

Well, I guess we'll give you a minute to let all that sink in. More Glenn Beck coming up.

[Stu Burguiere]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Glad you're here. You know, we were talking off air about how many people have, how different this is from 2016 and how many people are now for Donald Trump. I mean, I, in 2016, I certainly wasn't saying the same things I'm saying now about him coming into office and But I had a, you know, an honest change of heart that you witnessed. He was doing all the things he said he would do, and I didn't believe he would do. And I told you at the beginning, I mean, I just got to be honest. I'm only projecting what I think he might do, and I don't think he's going to do any of those things he did. Now I'm sitting here thinking, this guy has changed so much. Even from 2020, he's changed so much. This guy could be. And I hate to say this because it sounds so hyperbolic, but I think it's true. If he does out the deep state and clean this nation up, he'll be remembered as an Abraham Lincoln. That's phenomenal. But you're looking also at people now that are going to be up on the, you know, up on the stairs of the Capitol, like Bezos and Zuckerberg and I. You know, Bezos, the Pentagon is on. On Amazon servers. Okay. Everything is on Amazon servers. And, you know, he's kind of got to play the game, I think. But he's changing the Washington Post, and maybe that's an honest change of heart because he's losing everybody at the Washington Post. They're all just up in arms.

[Glenn Beck]

He should be cheering that development.

[Brad Meltzer]

They should.

[Stu Burguiere]

They should.

[Glenn Beck]

Every time another. Another Jen Rubin walks out the door, he should throw an office part.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. I don't know if you're ever gonna be able to clean those places up. I mean, you'd have to do what Elon Musk did to Twitter, just fire almost everybody.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it's gonna be difficult, but, I mean, they can move it in the right direction. I think that's a positive thing. And again, if it's just the I need to kiss Trump's butt cuz I'm afraid of him thing, that's okay. I don't mind that. I'd prefer an honest transition. What I don't want is Bezos to be friendly with Trump and then start asking him for stuff that he's been wanting all this time. Like, I mean, the TikTok ban is kind of interesting from that front. I mean, Trump may have just had a change of heart and maybe just you know, really did like the way it worked for him. And that's kind of what he said. Like, it's worked well for me, and now I, you know, want to keep it and don't want the ban. But also he's got lots of donors that came in that were pro TikTok. The TikTok CEO is going to be at the inauguration like these guys all want, want something. And Trump I think usually is just like screw you. If I don't want to do it, I'm not going to do it.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's not going to, I don't think.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't think so.

[Stu Burguiere]

I've never seen that of him. If he wants to do it, he'll do it. If he doesn't want to do it, no.

[Glenn Beck]

But there are going to be pressures he's going to have to deal with on a day to day basis.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah. More in a minute.

[Unknown]

This is Glenn. Down the road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the glenvec program.

[Stu Burguiere]

Hello America. Welcome to Friday and the Glenn Beck program. Monday we're going to be broadcasting from Washington for the inauguration. Hopefully we'll be just outside of the blast zone. No, hopefully not. I mean hopefully we are out of the blast zone, but hopefully there isn't a blast. But anyway, we'll be there on Monday. Today is the last broadcast of the fourth full day of this administration and we look forward to a new era. But it's going to be up to us. And one of the things that has to happen is a full recognition of the truth. No matter how uncomfortable it is, no matter who's involved. One of the things that I've been fascinated with and I, I've changed a lot in the 20 years is the JFK assassination. I'm going to share something with a good friend of mine who just wrote a book that he is telling a new truth you have not heard. At least I don't think so. The first assassination attempt of jfk. Did you know there was another one? I had no idea. He's going to tell you that. And then I want to bring up something, I don't know if it's true or not. Something that has just been released, some new audio and if it's true, it changes everything. But I don't know. Brad Meltzer joins me in 60 seconds. First, realestate agents I trust.com when you absolutely positively have to buy or sell a home, sometimes you just have to, let's face it, you really want real estate agents on your side that you truly trust. So about 10 years ago I started a company with my brother and it's called Real Estate Agents I Trust. I was working with the 500 Best Real Estate agents in the country according to the Wall Street Journal. And after working with them for a while, I realized there is something. There's a reason all of these people are the best in the country. They just had a different code of ethics. They also understood marketing so much better. And they were changing with the times, but all of them, it was the kind of person that their word was their bond. So I started a company, realestate agentsitrust.com we vet these people six ways to Sunday. I don't charge you a dime. I just, I'm trying to put you in touch with the person that we feel is the best real estate agent, one that you can trust to get the job done in your area. So whether you're buying and selling, you know, your home and you're going to move across the street or across the country, we can help you wherever you are. Real estate agents I trust dot com. Real estate agents I trust dot com. Brad Meltzer is with me. He and his co author, Josh Mensch have just released a new book called the JFK Conspiracy, the Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy and why It Failed. Brad, as always, it's good to see you.

[Brad Meltzer]

Always good to see you, my friend.

[Stu Burguiere]

So let's start with, I mean, kind of where we are right now. I talked to Cash Patel eight months ago, and when he was at dni, when he was the dni, he said he saw some of the things. He didn't tell me what it was, he said, but he saw the Kennedy stuff and elsewhere. And he said, you know, if people see it, they would understand why it has been kept quiet. He said, I don't agree with it, but you would understand. Do you think we're going to get the full disclosure this time?

[Brad Meltzer]

We were promised it when Trump first took office, over and over and over. I sit on the board of the National Archives foundation, as you know, and believe me, we all want it. Everyone there wants it. And I will say this, I actually don't think there's some smoking gun, and here's why. Because Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald. And the moment he did that, he took away the one eyewitness who actually was there and knew what happened. So you can find all these other things, but it will never answer the question, what is Lee Harvey Oswald doing in Russia at the height of the Cold War? Who do we ask that to? He's the guy going there and doing it. And the fact that. Here's the other thing that I always rely on, deathbed confessions. I'm obsessed with deathbed confessions. If you look at Watergate and who Deep Throat was Bob Woodward was going to take it to the grave. The head of the Washington Post was going to take it to the grave. And how do we find out who Deep Throat was? Because Deep Throat got old and said. Said, it's me. It's me. Mark felt I'm about to die and I want the truth to be known. And in all these years since that day here In Dallas in 1963, nobody said a word. And I don't believe that for one second. There's someone who on their deathbed and look at the math of where they are. There's very few people that were alive were getting there. So I'm hoping. But that's what I trust more than some bureaucratic paperwork work.

[Stu Burguiere]

So let's talk about this new conspiracy to kill President Kennedy. I had never heard of it before. And you explain in the book why. But first set it up. This is before he takes office, right?

[Brad Meltzer]

Yeah. This is three years before Lee Harvey Oswald obviously takes his famous shot. And it is in Palm Beach, Florida. It's a beautiful Sunday morning right after JFK has been elected, almost right where we are right now in the presidency. He's been elected, he's waiting for inauguration, and he's going to church. Sunday morning, JFK goes to church. And he has no idea that there is a disgruntled postal worker named Richard Pavlik who wants to kill him. And he's packed his car with seven sticks of dynamite. He's followed jfk. He tracked him to Massachusetts, he tracked him to Palm Beach, Florida. Followed him to Florida because He believes that JFK's security is weakest there, which he's right about. And as JFK leaves his house that morning for church, all this assassin has to do is hit the little trigger device that he's built and boom, we'll go. The dynamite.

[Stu Burguiere]

Would he be in the car?

[Brad Meltzer]

He's in the car. He writes the letter that says, I'm not coming back from this. And what saves JFK's life that day? I don't want to ruin the ending, although I think I just ruined chapter one of the JFK conspiracy. That's chapter one. But what saves his life that day has to do with Jackie. I won't ruin it. But it's one of the craziest JFK stories you've never heard in your life.

[Stu Burguiere]

So why haven't we heard this?

[Brad Meltzer]

That's the right question. So here's why you don't know this story. It was a huge story in Miami, in Florida, where it happened. Miami Herald Had a big front page article. It's about to go nationwide. It used to back then, take an extra day to go from local to nationwide. And on the day it's going nationwide, two airliners collide over New York City. Everyone on board dies except for one child, the sole survivor.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh, my God, that is great.

[Brad Meltzer]

And America becomes obsessed with this kid, right? Is he gonna live? Is he gonna die? It knocks this JFK story off the front page, buries it into the middle of the newspaper. It becomes a footnote to history until my friend Josh Mench and I find it. And we're like, america needs to know this story. That's where the JFK conspiracy is.

[Stu Burguiere]

How did you. How did you find this story?

[Brad Meltzer]

Because I'm crazy like you, right? I mean, because we love. Listen, your algorithm, I know, is like my algorithm. It feeds us what we like and it knows I. So I usually find them in footnotes. The best stories in history are in the footnotes. You and I have talked at length about this. And this one, I found a little mention of it, a tiny little blurb on it. And I was like. And my reaction is always the same. Is this real? And let's find out.

[Stu Burguiere]

Those are the best journeys, the best journey.

[Brad Meltzer]

They're adventures. That's how I see them. And we were very lucky that there were some reporters who did a FOIA request for the documents on Richard Pavlik. And what they found and what we got was hundreds of pages of the FBI's and the Secret Service's real time files from 1960. And we're going, wait, who has.

[Stu Burguiere]

Where are those? How long did it take to find those?

[Brad Meltzer]

Yeah, I mean, you know what the truth is? It's the one. I mean, for all the government, FOIA is an unbelievable. And if no one, I wouldn't know to look for them. But once they're out, now there's a record. So once you get Richard Pavlik, once I find that story and I get his name, now I can find his arrest record. Now I can find who the officer is. Now I can find, oh, was the Service or the FBI arrested him? And you suddenly play that game through time and you start pulling these layers and it just reveals so much, of course, about JFK and what's going on in 1960.

[Stu Burguiere]

So why did he want to kill him? Disgruntled postal worker.

[Brad Meltzer]

Putting the word postal in postal worker, Right?

[Stu Burguiere]

You kind of have an answer.

[Brad Meltzer]

But here's the real answer. The real answer is because he's Catholic, of all things. And it Sounds almost silly now.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's Catholic.

[Brad Meltzer]

This is JFK. Well, no, no, because. I'm sorry, I mean, because JFK's Catholic. He wants to kill JFK's Catholic.

[Glenn Beck]

No, you got that part.

[Brad Meltzer]

No, no, no. Pavlik wants to kill JFK because JFK's Catholic. Catholic. And it sounds almost trite now. And I know it's titillating for me to come on and say, hey, we found the secret plot to kill JFK that you've never heard. But the reason you and I love history so much is that it's not just cool old stories, but it's that it tells us something about where we are right now. And if you look at the 1960 election, it's JFK versus Richard Nixon. The country is bitterly divided. The closest election of the 20th century. Whatever side you're on, you think the other side are complete and utter morons. Does that sound familiar to you? Right. It's right. We are now. And it sounds almost silly now, but there were Protestant leaders back then who did not want a Catholic becoming president.

[Stu Burguiere]

Because they were worried, including great statesmen like Billy Graham.

[Brad Meltzer]

Billy Graham. The Reverend Norman Vincent Peale, who wrote the Power of Positive Thinking, one of the great books.

[Stu Burguiere]

New York's Vincent Peale.

[Brad Meltzer]

He's the one who Billy Graham puts out in front of the public. And you see video of him saying, we can't have anyone who's Catholic, Papists, because what he wants, he's worried he's going to be loyal to the Pope. You're on the money. And they're worried that when JFK takes office, he'll be loyal to the Pope and not these United States, and he can't be trusted. And again, it sounds almost silly now, but back then, that's what they thought. And here was the other big part, the kkk. Very separately, the Ku Klux Klan, of course, in the Civil War, is harassing the black community. In the 1920s, there's a resurgence of the KKK, and they realize that they can expand their dues and their membership by expanding that circle of hate. And what they expand it to is they start hitting not just blacks, but they start hitting Jews, they start hating immigrants, and they see JFK as an Irish Catholic immigrant that his family came across on a boat. And we can't have an immigrant reach that White House. And when you put that venom, like saying, you can't have a Catholic in the White House out there, people are listening, and Richard Pavlik is listening, and he's like, you know What? I'm going to do something good for America. I'm going to make sure the Catholic never gets to the White House.

[Stu Burguiere]

If I'm not mistaken, the Catholics were instrumental in raising money for the Washington Monument.

[Brad Meltzer]

I think that's right. I think that is right. I remember reading about that I used to do for one of our History Channel shows.

[Stu Burguiere]

We did something on it. And I think that's why it took so long to finish. Not only that, but also the Civil War, because people were like, that's a Catholic project.

[Brad Meltzer]

Of course. I mean, a great giant monument. The Catholic. I mean, who knows? But we look at that as, like, right now. We all roll our eyes and say, why would they care about that? But it just shows you what venom and hatred can do to our country and to me. I'm very much obsessed with looking at this from that perspective. In fact, one of the things I became obsessed with was Camelot itself. And one of the things I learned. I love Jackie Kennedy.

[Stu Burguiere]

Love her.

[Brad Meltzer]

And Jackie Kennedy we've reduced to a caricature. We've said, oh, she's beautiful, and she's got grace and she can decorate. We don't do her a service there.

[Stu Burguiere]

She was wicked smart.

[Brad Meltzer]

Wicked is the right word. Wicked smart. Like Massachusetts herself. And. And she basically. We don't pull our punches. We document JFK's affairs. We show you that after they get engaged, one of JFK's best friends comes to Jackie and says, you know, Jack really loves women, and basically says to her face, he's gonna keep sleeping around on you. And when she's giving birth, she hemorrhages, and they have to race her to the hospital. JFK is nowhere to be found for.

[Stu Burguiere]

Like a week or so.

[Brad Meltzer]

A long time.

[Stu Burguiere]

He's on a boat.

[Brad Meltzer]

He's on a plane to Florida. You know what would happen to me?

[Stu Burguiere]

Wait, wait.

[Brad Meltzer]

If we. My.

[Stu Burguiere]

He was on a boat with a bunch of.

[Brad Meltzer]

Oh, that's when she has a stillborn. That's when he's. He's on a boat full of women for that one. That's a stillborn.

[Stu Burguiere]

There's two.

[Brad Meltzer]

That's the second. That's the first one. He's on a boat with a bunch of women. She's having a stillborn. And they have to tell him, you should probably go back. And he's like, you think? And they're like, yeah, man, you got to go back. Your political career is finished.

[Stu Burguiere]

She was done with the marriage on that one, right?

[Brad Meltzer]

I mean, she.

[Stu Burguiere]

I think she.

[Brad Meltzer]

How could you not be right? How could. And when she finally gives birth to Jon Jon, she hemorrhages because she's obviously had this previous pregnancy. It was a disaster. JFK is on a plane to Florida. Do you know what would happen to me if I was on a plane to Florida while my wife was giving birth? You and I would not be talking right now because I would be murdered. I know. Me, too.

[Stu Burguiere]

Me, too. I had to start my CNN show three days, two days after my daughter was born. And I almost lost my life because I wasn't, you know, fully there two days later, of course.

[Brad Meltzer]

And what I kept saying when I'm reading all this is, why did they call this place Camelot? How is it so great that it's Camelot? And I was like, where does it start? Is it year one, Camelot? Year two, Camelot? Where does it go?

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Brad Meltzer]

This is a cliffhanger. I love that we do cliffhangers together. But I said to myself, where does Camelot come from? Is it year 1, 2, 3? And I discovered this. We don't start using the word Camelot until after JFK dies. It's after his assassination that Jackie grants one interview to Life magazine, and she brings the reporter to her house. He's there until after midnight, and she's working that interview back and forth with him. And she tells him this exclusive story that when JFK was in the White House and his back was hurting him and he was in pain, the way to relieve that pain, Jackie would put on his favorite record. And for young people listening, a record is how he used to listen to music. But she used to put on his favorite record. And his record was a song about a place called Camelot from the famous play. And it was Jackie who put that word into our lexicon. We forget Jackie was a reporter when she started. So she was a member of the press. She was hounded by the press, but make no mistake, my friend, and she was a master of the press.

[Stu Burguiere]

So I almost won in auction a card that she had written right after the assassination. It just said Jackie Kennedy. And it had one line on it. She gave it to her secretary, and it just said, camelot is no more.

[Brad Meltzer]

Oh, yep, that's the line. I mean, and. And the thing that's amazing to me is what she's doing there very consciously, is she's writing JFK's legacy so no one else can write it. That's why we call it Camelot. Jackie's amazing, as you said, wicked smart. And I have just so much new respect for what she's trying to hold together as all this is happening. And at the same time, JFK is this really complicated. We've reduced him to a cliche. He's Mayor Quimby now on the Simpsons, right? He's the guy with beautiful hair, and he's got the beautiful wife, and they got the beautiful life. And he's a World War II, amazing hero in World War II. And I didn't know this part. I actually didn't know the PT109 story. He's on a PT109 boat, Japanese destroyer. Boat explodes, wood gets shattered everywhere. It's a boat made of wood, of mahogany, so parts of it float. And his men, some die. They have to swim to an island. One guy's unconscious. JFK says, you know what? Put him on my back. I'm the best swimmer. Fashions on the floating pieces of wood, puts a piece of rope, holds the rope in his teeth as he swims to the island with this guy on his back. When they get there, they're like, there's no water here. After a day, there's no drinkable water, no food. I'm going to Swim a couple more miles to see if there's another place where we can go. Finds another island. Swims back a couple miles on no food, says, I found another place. We got to all go to this island. We're going to die here if we don't. They say, what about the unconscious guy? Put him on my back again. Holds the rope in his teeth, swims again. When he's done, of course, saves this man's life. Everyone's like, you're the hero. You can leave World War II now. JFK, his father, of course, is like, son, come home. Let's get you out of here. We'll get you a career in politics. You're going places. And JFK says, no, dad, fight's not done. I need to keep fighting. World War II is not done. Goes back into World War II. And I look at these stories and I'm like, JFK is this amazing World War II hero. He takes us to the moon on the moonshot, unleashes hope in this world with his inaugural address. So is he good or is he a reckless husband who's sleeping around his wife? Is he bad? Is he like the rest of us, Complicated?

[Stu Burguiere]

Yes.

[Brad Meltzer]

Right? And that's the answer. He's compl. And to me, what I love about history. I know what you love about history is taking those bold faced names and turning them back into human beings. And what I love about the JFK conspiracy is you see their lives, you see their marriage, you see what's going on, and you see what JFK is really up to in those days. Right before he takes the White House.

[Stu Burguiere]

How did Jackie stand it?

[Brad Meltzer]

You know, I wish we could get in her head. She's one of the most. The person who you're going to love in this book is her Secret Service agent, and he's this guy named Clint Hill. And Clint Hill is the one who gets assigned to protective detail and the Secret Service of ppd. Presidential Protective Detail is the assignment you want. You're guarding the President. Get to the White House. And he's like, I got it. I made it. I'm going to the White House.

[Stu Burguiere]

It was the First Lady.

[Brad Meltzer]

And he gets there and they say, you're not signing the President. You got the First Lady. He's like, like, oh, my gosh, this sucks. He's like, he thought he got a demotion, right? He's like, I'm gonna go guard tea parties. This is the worst. But he gets Jackie Kennedy, and it's the start of an amazing part of history.

[Stu Burguiere]

All right, More With Brad Selter. The name of the book, Brad Seltzer. Meltzer. Sorry, I was thinking rhymes with Seltzer. Brad Meltzer. He's written a book with Josh Mensch. It's the J Conspiracy. The Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy and why It Failed. More in a minute.

[Unknown]

This is Glenn Beck.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Hey, don't forget, we're going to be having coverage on Monday, beginning in this hour. Monday, the inauguration of number 47, Donald J. Trump. All right, I want to play something that has just come out and honestly, we can't even figure where it came from. We, we haven't been able to track this down. So I don't know if this is true or not. And, you know, I, I really would hope that somebody in Silicon Valley is working for, working to build a system that everybody could have or at least, you know, journalists and people that are in our situation that could run something through and find out, is this a deep fake, Is this real or not? Run that and see an algorithm that shows you the percentage because this could be a complete deep fake. We have no idea. It also could be true. It's a tape of Billy Saul Estes and Clifton Carter, who's from Dallas, discussing the alleged involvement of LBJ in hiring Mack Wallace to assassinate jfk. Uh, I want to play it. Cause we're with Brad Meltzer, and he is. He is way up on JFK and has been fascinated with this for ever since I've known you and has a new book, the JFK the Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy. Let me play this audio and I'd love to get your thoughts on it.

[Brad Meltzer]

Of course.

[Glenn Beck]

You're.

[Unknown]

Good to see you. How's life treating you today? Well, Sol, it's been pretty touch and go situation. Linda and I have had quite a few unpleasant worms here lately over the deal with that he hired Mike Wallace to assassinate the President. It's been hectic in every way, but we've lived through it this far, and I guess we'll continue to do so. Lyndon should have never issued that order to Mike. But we've had our differences, and I'm true blue to Lyndon, as I've always been, and tried to carry out every order that he'd ever given me. But this is one I'll probably never be able to forget. And the times that we've had in Texas and the embarrassment that Lyndon had gotten from Kennedy. I guess there wasn't anything else to do but what he did. Well, you know, Lyndon could have really hit me if he would. Well, Lyndon's the kind of person that doesn't want to help anyone. He's, you know, he's all for Linden, and that's the way he's pretty much always been. Well, they had me backed up on that Henry Marshall killing, and they just kind of blackmailed me to keep my mouth shut. If I hadn't had a bunch of tape that I played after I got killed, as you know, 17 got killed in this situation very mysteriously. And I've done a lot of time, and I've lost a lot of money and hurt my family a whole lot. And it's really got me disgusted with Lyndon. In one way, in one way, I feel real.

[Stu Burguiere]

If that's real, that changes history. It shows that there was a cover up, not only of. Of Lyndon B. Johnson trying to hire somebody to assassinate Kennedy, but also that there were other situations that he helped cover up where other people were losing their lives. Brad.

[Brad Meltzer]

So needless to say, the moment this tape came out, I was like, well, luckily in my. My wife said at one point, when did you become Forrest Gump? Because she. Because I happen to know Clifton Carter's daughter. She's a dear, dear friend of mine.

[Stu Burguiere]

And he's the one who said, I've disagreed with him, and I'M gonna take this one and have a hard time swallowing it.

[Unknown]

True.

[Brad Meltzer]

True blue for him. Yes. And I called her immediately, the moment this tape came out. I said, what do you think? And she was obviously shocked by it. You wake up one morning, there's a thing that's linking your dad to Kennedy. I mean, we were like. And I said to her, what do you think? And this is privately not on there. She has nothing to prove. And she said, I'm honest with you. She's like, obviously. She's like, it doesn't sound like my daddy. She calls him daddy. She said, and again, we live in this world.

[Stu Burguiere]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. How did she mean that? It doesn't. Because I can say, like, it doesn't.

[Brad Meltzer]

Sound like his voice. No, no, not in content. No. His voice doesn't sound like how he speaks. Like it doesn't sound like his. Yeah, the content. Of course, she was flabbergasted by. But she said it just. I said, is it real? And she's trying to figure out, of course, the same thing we all are. And she just said, it just doesn't sound like his voice. It doesn't sound like.

[Stu Burguiere]

How long ago did he die?

[Brad Meltzer]

I forget now, of course I'm going to find, you know, the first call.

[Stu Burguiere]

I'm going to make it five years.

[Brad Meltzer]

No, no, it's a while back. But she was. But she was an adult when he died, I think, I believe, because he lived a long time. And again, listen, all of us have messed up versions. My parents are both dead. If you play tapes for me, there may be things where I say that not my mom, but of course it's my mom. My dad sounded like a mobster. He was like, how you doing?

[Stu Burguiere]

How you doing?

[Brad Meltzer]

How you doing? So you play Andy Joe, Pesci, and all day is my dad. But the thing that just bothers me so much about where we are, Glenn, is that it's so easy to make something fake. Now I don't know what to believe. And that's as honest as I can be. I always want to believe, but I'm like, show me the proof. Show me where this lines up and what the motivations are. And the motivations just aren't there also for Clifton Carter either. He's a guy in power. LBJ's coming in. There's not. And here's.

[Stu Burguiere]

Where's this Mack Wallace guy?

[Brad Meltzer]

I don't know Mack Wallace, but here's what I take from it. And this is always how I feel about when it comes to jfk. If you want to know who killed jfk, because how are we talking this long and not talking about it, right? If you want to know who killed JFK in the 60s, when JFK gets shot, who do we think did it? It's to hide the Cold War. We think it's our great enemies at the time. Soviet Union did it, the Cubans did it. If you look in the 70s, when Watergate happens, who killed Kennedy?

[Stu Burguiere]

CIA.

[Brad Meltzer]

CIA. Inside job. Now we don't trust the government anymore. CIA did it, LBJ did it. It was an inside job. If you look in the 80s, the Godfathers movies peak. Who killed JFK?

[Stu Burguiere]

Mob.

[Brad Meltzer]

It was the mob. So if you want to know who killed jfk, it's decade by decade whoever America's most afraid of at that moment in time. And last week when JFK conspiracy came out, someone said, I think he was killed for UFOs. Of course, that's the popular one now, because UFOs and drones are the big thing now. And the reason I say that is JFK and Jackie have always been a mirror of America. All conspiracies are mirrors of America. They show us our fears and what we worry about.

[Stu Burguiere]

This is so amazing. I have a podcast today that's exactly what we're talking about. Not a conspiracy. Whether that's true or not really doesn't matter. It's. What does it tell us about us?

[Brad Meltzer]

Beautiful. That's exactly right. You're exactly right. And to me, JFK and Jackie are the first celebrity presidents and first lady. And I'm not talking about famous. You know that Abraham Lincoln's famous. Every president's famous. But that Hollywood, they got it all. And there's money and there's homes and there's beauty. And we've been chasing Camelot, we've been chasing Camelot since they left. And some people say that's what Reagan was. Some people say it's what the Obamas were. For some. For some, of course, it's Trump. But to me it's all a hollow pursuit. Because Camelot never existed. It wasn't real. And we've been chasing that forever, trying to find ourselves in this image, right? And the thing we should be chasing is not fame or money or celebrity. It's all nonsense. The thing that one thing that JFK did better than anyone though, is he unleashed hope, that in that inaugural address, it's one of the greatest ever written beside maybe Abraham Lincoln himself. But whatever, the country is bitterly divided, and he said, let's come together. And he unleashed that belief. Whether we were there or not. I'm anxious to see that hope is there. I'm dying to know what it's gonna.

[Stu Burguiere]

Be on Monday, of course. But he also, he and Trump have some things in common with. With ruffling all of the establishment feathers. Yeah. And saying, you know, I think I'm going to shut down the CIA. Let's, let's. The nukes are insanity. I mean, he didn't make a lot of friends. And I don't trust the intelligence community anymore. They haven't done anything to earn my trust in a very long time. And, you know, Trump, look at Secret Service.

[Brad Meltzer]

Yeah, let's talk about that. I mean, so, you know, I went to the Secret Service when I was researching and wanted to know about presidential assassins. Right. I got to know about that. And they told me, and this I do believe. I talked to these guys, and there are some amazing people, as you know, there are some amazing people in the service and any law enforcement. And they said to me that presidential assassins divide into two categories. There's hunters and there are howlers. And a howler makes a lot of noise, says, I hate you, I'm coming to kill you. President, you know, makes all the noise, but they rarely take action. They're more bark than bite. Hunters are very different. A hunter rarely says a word, but the hunters are the ones who pull the trigger. And if you look at the four men who have successfully killed a President of the United States, from Abraham Lincoln to jfk, all four of them are hunters. And Richard Pavlik in our book the JFK Conspiracy, he thinks he's a hunter, but he's got a little bit of howler in him. And I won't ruin it again, but you'll see why he gets caught in the twist that happens. And I believe, of course, as I'm writing this book, is when two different men try to attack Trump. And I look at that and I know, I really do believe, sadly, whoever won, whether it was Trump or Kamala, whoever won, there were going to be more attempts. That is when the country is bitterly divided, is when these things happen so often. The Civil War is happening, Abraham Lincoln, people are taking their shot multiple times.

[Stu Burguiere]

Abraham Lincoln also has the same kind of record of safety that Donald Trump might have this time. They tried to kill him before he took office.

[Brad Meltzer]

I wrote a whole book. The Lincoln Conspiracy is literally about that thing. They try to kill him before he gets there, and they try and kill him. Of course, when he is there, you look at jfk, they try and kill him. In the beginning, divided country, right down the middle, bitter, a close election. Try to kill him before they try and kill him. Obviously, they do kill him. JFK in 1963.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah, those two both have this same pattern. And they both died in March.

[Brad Meltzer]

Right. And now you hear we are in 2025 and you're telling me that it's not potentially going to happen. I mean, I think it's just a question of when. And the whole thing is. And it's so sad to say, but I think we just have to. Again, we're going to see another attempt. And that's just the reality we live in, when the country is bitterly divided. And I hope we can get to something that brings us closer together.

[Stu Burguiere]

So my security, I have two hammers on my team that were protection for one of the biggest people in the world, that you could go anywhere in the world and you would know them and they're not a celebrity and they work for me and they're very well connected. They, you know, they're really good at what they do. And I was driving in today and I said, so what are you thinking about Inauguration Day? Because we're gonna be there. And I said, what do you. What do you think the odds are of some sort of an attack? He calmly just looked at me and said, 50, 50. I was like, what?

[Brad Meltzer]

You know that I was called by the Department of Homeland Security years ago to come in and brainstorm different ways terrorists could attack the United States. When they called me, I was like, if you're calling me, we have bigger problems than anybody thinks. Right? I mean, they're calling a guy who writes history and fiction and thrillers. But I was obviously honored to go in there and work with the government back then. It was right after 9 11. And the thing that struck me more than anything else was that it's 50, 50. I'm like, wait, wait, 50, 50. What are you talking about? And the thing that's so hard, DNI, after 9 11, when it first got established, would make list of the greatest threats that are affecting the United States right now. They do it every year. You can look up this year's too. And it used to be things like Russia or China or big countries that had military force and they had all these other things. And after 9 11, guess what it was? It changed. It was a small group of people or an individual who's committed to their cause. And when that happened, all of law enforcement's like, oh, crap, what do we do now? Right? Because now we're trying to plot against one person on one day doing whatever crazy plot they're going to come up with. That's what Richard Pavlik did in the JFK Conspiracy. He's just a guy who's buying seven sticks of dynamite. He goes to buy the dynamite. Now, because of Oklahoma City, we don't let you buy dynamite and then walk around. They say to him back. Then he comes in, buys one stick, and next day he comes back and buys another. Third day, they're like, why do you need so much dynamite? And he says, well, I got to take down some tree stumps. Which is how you can take down. Of course you take down tree stumps. And they're like, okay. But again, you know how much stuff is still out there now that anyone can do and turn into a dirty bomb or turn into something that makes something explode. Shrapnel everywhere. And I've been to the, I've walked the inaugural pathway. It's, it's open to the public. It's wide open.

[Stu Burguiere]

There's millions of times it'll be telling if he gets out. You know, they tried to stop him from getting out in 16 of the car.

[Brad Meltzer]

Oh, of course.

[Stu Burguiere]

And he said, we are getting out.

[Brad Meltzer]

Jfk. JFK gets out of his plane and they're like, don't go to the crowd. He goes to the crowd. He's going to go to the crowd.

[Stu Burguiere]

Brad Meltzer. The name of the book is the JFK Conspiracy. The Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy and why It Failed. Brad Meltzer, the JFK Conspiracy. Always good to have you here, my friend.

[Brad Meltzer]

Love seeing you. Always good.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Unknown]

This is Glenn Beck.

[Stu Burguiere]

Well, hello and welcome to the program Monday at 11:10 Eastern Time. Live from the heart of the nation's capital, we are going to start America's coverage of the golden age. It begins on Monday with Donald J. Trump's second inauguration. Stu and I are going to be right there, right at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial. You'll, I mean, we're going to be right there. You'll see the Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Memorial in the Capitol and we'll be covering the, the President's inaugural address and all of the pomp and ceremony. And it begins at 11 o'clock on this radio broadcast and then continues throughout the afternoon on Blaze tv. So don't miss it. You excited?

[Glenn Beck]

I, I am excited, yeah. I, I wouldn't have said, I don't know. I'm just not a big pump guy.

[Stu Burguiere]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Circumstance I'm into not as much pomp.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. But pomp is the best part. I don't even know what part I don't know is, but I think it's the best part. It comes first.

[Glenn Beck]

But I am kind of interested to, I mean it's going to be history and hopefully history that leads to something really, really positive which I'm optimistic over. So I don't know, we're not in this place that often I feel like in America these days. So that's good to be, place to.

[Stu Burguiere]

Be and I'm really anxious to hear his speech to see because I think it's going to be a very positive, uplifting speech. It's going to be, I think it's going to be clear, you know, on and we're not dealing with this anymore, but I think it's going to be very uplifting and hopefully very uniting. We'll find out together Monday.

[Unknown]

This is Glenn. Becky.