The REAL Consequences of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Resignation | 11/24/25

Summary

The Glenn Beck Program – Episode Summary

Episode: The REAL Consequences of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Resignation | 11/24/25
Date: November 24, 2025
Hosts: Pat & Stu (filling in for Glenn Beck)

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Overview

This episode of The Glenn Beck Program offers analysis and spirited commentary on a series of political flashpoints: the public meeting between newly elected NYC Mayor Zoran Mamdani and President Trump, the abrupt resignation of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the continued evolution of far-left politics in American cities, and a deeper examination of RFK Jr.'s scandals and political oddities. With their trademark banter, Pat and Stu break down implications for the Republican Party, the risks of legitimizing radical left figures, and the broader cultural currents reshaping American politics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Trump–Zoran Mamdani Meeting: Legitimizing the Far Left?

• Context: Zoran Mamdani, an avowed democratic socialist and new Mayor of NYC, met publicly with President Trump at the White House.
• Pat’s Concern: The cordial and conciliatory tone Trump took with Mamdani is seen as “legitimizing a socialist, Islamianist,” giving political capital to a far-left figure.

  “He’s been legitimized now, really, by the President of the United States.” – Pat (16:02)

• Stu’s Perspective: These moves are “classic Trump,” more performative than policy-changing. Trump’s style is to create optics of unity or bipartisanship but rarely shift his core stances.
• Trump’s Approach: Noted for engaging adversaries with charisma, Trump’s actions in this case are interpreted as negotiation tactics (“4D chess”), attempting to keep Mamdani close and conflicts manageable, especially given Trump’s business interests in NYC.
• Concerns Raised:
  • Mamdani never offered policy concessions, only reinforced his views.
  • Trump, instead, extended olive branches, even defending Mamdani from tough press questions.
  • Stu notes Democrats might have achieved more during Trump’s presidency had they adopted such a “work with him” strategy, “kissing his butt” rather than opposing at every turn.

Key Quote:

“All concessions are made by Trump. Not one from Zoran Mamdani, not one. The guy sticks to his pre-destined answers… he just smiles through all these policies that have ended the lives of hundreds of millions of people.” – Pat (13:50)

Memorable Moments (Timestamps):

• [09:51] Stu: “If you’re gonna do that [political glad-handing], do it behind the scenes.”
• [15:28] Stu: Observes Trump “stepping into the fire," politically shielding Mamdani from difficult press.
• [16:56] Stu: Draws parallels to how Democrats could have ‘worked the Trump system’ for more gains.

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2. Mamdani’s Views & Policies: Hard-Left Orthodoxy

• Mamdani’s Record:
  • Calls Israel’s actions “genocide” with US funding ([21:27]).
  • Emphasizes social spending: fast and free public transit, caseworkers over police expansion.
• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • Sarcastically critique Mamdani’s "genocide" claim as laughable (22:03).
  • Deep concern about the normalization of someone with overtly socialist—and, as Pat puts it, “communist”—views in NYC politics.
• NYC Electoral Disaster?
  • Both agree Mamdani is a “true believer,” not a mere “Democratic Socialist” playing to an audience (07:15).
  • Predict Mamdani’s tenure will see him pursue radical change, and worry that the federal government (and taxpayers) will have to “bail out” NYC if it goes badly ([16:56], [32:23]).

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3. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Resignation: Party Dynamics & Consequences

• Surprise Exit: Greene leaves on Jan 5, with suggestions of Trump’s hardline stance against even his allies as a cause ([35:21]).
  “He’s way harder on her than he is on Mamdani.” – Pat (35:45)
• Speculation:
  • Might be related to her demands for release of Epstein files and disagreements on healthcare.
  • Some suggest she’s leaving now for pension reasons or possible future media roles.
  • Her absence causes immediate headaches for the thin Republican House margin ([38:43]).
• Trump’s Double Standard?
  • Criticized for being harsher on conservative allies like Greene than on potential adversaries like Mamdani.

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4. The Rise of the Far Left in NYC: Cautionary Tale

• How Did Mamdani Win?
  • Hosts attribute Mamdani’s win to Cuomo’s “uniquely terrible” candidacy, low faith in NY voters, and Mamdani’s disciplined messaging ([28:13]).
  • Compare his campaign style to Gavin Newsom—slick, smiling, “snake oil salesman” (26:22).

Quotes:

"He delivers communism with a smile." – Pat (26:39)
“He talked as if he was reading out of the Communist Manifesto...and New York City’s like, ‘Yeah, let’s give this a whirl.’” – Stu (28:04)

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5. RFK Jr. & Media/Ethics Scandals

• Segment Includes:
  • RFK Jr.’s erratic past: the dead bear in Central Park, whale decapitation, alleged brain worm, and suggestive poetry sent to journalist Olivia Nuzzi ([47:39] onward).
  • Digression into Olivia Nuzzi’s career and ethics scandals, especially her relationship with older media figures like Keith Olbermann—complete with speculation and timeline breakdown ([55:06]–[59:59]).
  • Wry takes on media hypocrisy, journalistic ethics, and how personal life scandals intersect with political viability.

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6. Civil Asset Forfeiture & Border Policy Outrage

• Border Patrol Tweet:
  • “It’s not a crime to carry $10,000. We just want to know about it.” ([89:43]–[90:31])
  • Pat and Stu excoriate civil asset forfeiture—law enforcement taking cash without convicting (or even charging) someone with a crime.
  • “It’s so unconstitutional. I don’t understand how it continues to happen.” – Pat (91:32)
  • Warn about erosion of constitutional protections, and the dangers of prioritizing asset capture over presumption of innocence.

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7. Jasmine Crockett’s Senate Ambitions: Comic Relief and Political Reality

• Crockett Considering Senate Run:
  • Her polling claims are met with skepticism and amusement.
  • Stu: “There is nothing about Jasmine Crockett that I don’t adore…she gives you the easiest example of what’s wrong with your opponent.” ([107:09])
  • Both agree she’s unlikely to win statewide, but her bombastic style and lack of filter epitomize the current media and political incentive structure ([107:34] onward).
  • Pat: “I will eat my underwear if she wins the election.” ([119:04])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Exchanges

• Legitimizing the Far Left:
  • “He’s been legitimized now, really, by the President of the United States. You would live in New York City under this guy. You’d be okay with that.” – Pat (16:02)
  • “If you’re gonna do that [glad-handing], do it behind the scenes.” – Stu (09:51)
• Trump’s Negotiation Style:
  • “The words are, look, this guy is not...a Democrat...He’s a democratic socialist.” – Pat (19:40)
• On Jasmine Crockett:
  • “She says everything the Democrats are thinking in the most impossibly stupid way. I love what she does.” – Stu (106:53)
• RFK Jr. on Poetry:
  • “To squeeze your cheeks, to force your mouth open. I am a river, you are my canyon.” (69:44)
  • Pat: “Isn’t that beautiful and romantic?...Who wouldn’t swoon at that?” (70:12)
• On Civil Asset Forfeiture:
  • “It’s so unconstitutional. I don’t understand how it continues to happen.” – Pat (91:32)
  • “It is not a crime to carry around a bunch of cash. It might be ill-advised, but it's your right.” – Stu (98:10)
• On Rep. Greene’s Resignation:
  • “He’s way harder on her than he is on Mandani.” – Pat (35:45)
• On NYC Politics:
  • “He delivers communism with a smile. And it sounds so nice.” – Pat (26:39)

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Politically Significant Segments (with Timestamps)

• Trump/Mamdani Meeting Analysis: [05:35]–[19:48]
• Mamdani on Israel, Press Conference: [21:07]–[24:18]
• Rise of Mamdani and Lessons for NYC: [26:14]–[31:32]
• Trump-Rep. Greene Fallout: [35:21]–[39:43]
• RFK Jr. / Olivia Nuzzi / Keith Olbermann Saga: [47:39]–[66:33]
• Border Patrol/Civil Asset Forfeiture: [89:37]–[103:43]
• Jasmine Crockett’s Senate Run: [105:05]–[120:43]

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Tone & Style

• The hosts employ a blend of biting satire, skepticism, and frank (often mocking) analysis.
• They rely on extended riffs, callbacks, and “inside media” humor to underline the dysfunction and self-serving behavior they see across left-wing politics and portions of the Republican establishment.
• Sarcastic praise for figures they see as dangerous (Mamdani, Jasmine Crockett) is a recurring element.
• Despite clear partisan perspectives, they poke at Republican failings and hypocrisy as well as Democratic excesses.

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For Listeners

If you missed the episode:
This installment is packed with colorful, critical parsing of political theater, focusing on the risks of feeding legitimacy to radicalism through image politics, examining the paradoxes within the Trump coalition, and highlighting the real-world impacts—both legislative (Greene’s abrupt exit) and cultural (rise of New York socialism)—on the national stage. The episode is also peppered with deep-dive, often hilarious digressions into political scandals, media ethics, and infamous personalities.

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Recommended Listening Segments:

• [05:35]–[19:48]: Trump–Mamdani Meeting Dissected
• [35:21]–[39:43]: The MTG Resignation and Its Fallout
• [47:39]–[66:33]: RFK Jr./Olivia Nuzzi/Media Scandals
• [89:37]–[103:43]: Civil Asset Forfeiture Outrage
• [105:07]–[120:43]: Jasmine Crockett's Entertaining Ambitions

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Transcript

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[Stu]

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[Stu]

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[Glenn Beck (Announcer)]

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[Pat]

Yeah it is. And welcome to it. It's Pat and stu for Glenn today. 888727 Beck had the big meeting Mamnani and President Trump. And also some interesting poetry from an interesting guy, RFK Jr. Very interesting cat, isn't he? We'll get into that and much more too.

[Stu]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Pat]

Patton stew for Glenn today. Maybe it's just me. I'm a little disconcerted by the Mamdani President Trump meeting, not the fact that they had it. It was kind of the aftermath. That bothered me a bit.

[Stu]

What bothered you about it, Pat?

[Pat]

Just the incredible friendliness and legitimizing of Zoran Mandami that. I thought that was a little bit much. Really? Yeah. Yeah, a little bit. What I. I way. I was. The way that you're legitimizing a socialist, Islamist, or Islamianist, as I like to call Islamist. And I was fairly alone on that as the. On my show, I. A lot of people called in and said that, you know, he's just. He's setting Mondami up for, I guess, the fall, so. And he's treating him nicely now, and then he'll be able to write in later and say, see, I gave him a shot. How did you feel about it?

[Stu]

So the 4D chess argument, essentially, was. Was that play?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

You know, I. I first of all completely agree with you in that I, you know, don't want him legitimized. I don't know. He's not. This is not a. I don't think this is a guy necessarily, you're gonna be able to work with.

[Pat]

Yeah, well, the way he's acted afterwards, like he's stuck to everything we said. What I said before, and I say it now.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Okay. All right.

[Stu]

Yeah. You know, because there are. There are examples of people even who say they're Democratic socialists who are playing to an audience. Right. I don't think that's Mamdani.

[Pat]

I don't either.

[Stu]

I think he's a true believer.

[Pat]

Yeah, me too.

[Stu]

And so it scares me now, of course, you know, Trump has a bunch of business interests in New York. Like, you know, making an enemy of the New York City mayor doesn't really benefit him, I suppose, any more than they already are. Memories or enemies, I mean, because, like, you know, people have a memory of what, you know, Mamdani was just saying about him, calling him a fascist and everything else. That being said, I'm very much of. We've been at this a long time, Pat. You know, it's been a. It's been an exhausting decade of talking and analyzing every move that Donald Trump makes. I tend to fall at the side of the spectrum, which is like, I really, like day to day, don't care what he says, frankly. And this is not a knock on Trump. It's just like he's got other things in mind and I don't know what they are most of the time. Like, he's negotiating, he's making friends with the person. I tend to just ignore what he says and focus on what he does. So we'll see what he does here. I don't think he's gonna back off of his immigration policy, and I don't think Mamdani is going to back off of his sanctuary city policy.

[Pat]

And I think that's very true.

[Stu]

End of the day, at some point relatively soon in this adventure, they're going to be warring again. Right. Like, so, I don't know. I think Trump likes to have those moments where he comes in and he smiles with the guy and he shakes their hand and he acts like he's really everything I've ever heard about the guy, and this is from dozens of people who have met him and spent time with him, is that he's incredibly engaging in person and that people even who hate his guts in politics really like him.

[Pat]

Bill Maher, man to man.

[Stu]

Yeah. Maher said that. Yeah. I mean, but I've heard it from a dozen, you know, dozens of people who are completely outside, not even on the air. Don't talk about this stuff. They all say the same thing. And some of them are enemies of Trump.

[Pat]

Yep.

[Stu]

And Trump will, no matter what his disagreement with you is, he'll come in and he'll shake your hand and he'll act like you're the most important person in the world. And in a way, he's trying to get the best possible outcome, I think, out of Imam Donnie Mayoral reign. I don't think that that upside is there's much there, but that is the way he seems to operate. So I am totally with you. Like, if he's actually embracing this guy, I think that's terrible and he should be criticized heavily for it. I don't like the idea of him even doing the glad handing stuff, especially in public. Like, if you're gonna do that, do it behind the scenes.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

But I think he's trying to, I guess, portray that he's working with him. So I'm not probably as bothered about it as you are, but like, you know, I, I just honestly don't take too much out of it.

[Pat]

Here's, here's the way it looked right after the meeting. Here's Trump with Mundani in the White House.

[Stu]

Republican Elise Stefanik has campaigned multiple times by calling Zorah Mandani a jihadist. Do you think you're standing next to.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

A jihadist right now in the Oval Office.

[Zoran Mamdani]

No, I know.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

No, he doesn't.

[Zoran Mamdani]

She's out there campaigning, and, you know, you say things sometimes in a campaign.

[Stu]

It's a very honest answer.

[Zoran Mamdani]

She's a very capable person. Yeah, but, you know, you really have to ask her about that. But I don't particularly. I think I met with a very. I. I met with a man who's a very rational person. I met with a man who wants to see. Really wants to see New York be great again.

[Stu]

And I can say again, no, he.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Doesn'T, because New York was great.

[Stu]

Why did you fly here? Aren't trains greener?

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

I'll use every form of transit, and I want to make sure that they're all affordable in New York City. And that's why making buses fast and free is a central piece of our community.

[Pat]

Well, but.

[Zoran Mamdani]

I know. But if he flew, that's a lot quicker, too, you know, I mean, he's. He's working very hard for him to be. That's a long.

[Stu]

That's a very being excuse. He's like, arguing, stick up for you.

[Zoran Mamdani]

The plane takes you 30 minutes and driving takes you.

[Stu]

It sounds like you had a productive discussion. But just days ago, you referred to President Trump as a despot who betrayed the country. You said I would be his worst nightmare and accused him of having a fascist agenda. Are you claiming to retract any of these remarks in order to improve your relationship?

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

I think both President Trump and I, we are very clear about our positions and our views. And what I really appreciate about the president is that the meeting that we had focused not on places of disagreement.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Which there are, and I've been called much worse than a despot, so it's not that insulting. I think he'll change his mind until.

[Stu]

We get to working together.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yes, please.

[Stu]

Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under a Mahdani administration?

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah, I would. I really would. Especially after the meeting.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Absolutely.

[Pat]

What makes you comfortable? Wow.

[Zoran Mamdani]

We agree on a lot more than I would have thought.

[Stu]

Affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

I've spoken about.

[Zoran Mamdani]

That's okay. You can just say okay.

[Stu]

It's easier than something you do for a real ally.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Jasmine Crockett]

So is that a reduction from what.

[Stu]

You'Re at right now?

[Jasmine Crockett]

Are you committing to maintaining the same.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

Level I've committed over the course of the campaign to maintain the 35,000. That's the headcount that we had through the campaign.

[Stu]

Replace them with caseworkers, social work.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

No, I've said that's the headcount that we want, what we need to do is make sure they can focus on serious crime.

[Zoran Mamdani]

And he just retained a great police commissioner, I believe, right? Yes, if the newspapers are correct that one, they're correct about he, he retained, I think somebody that is a she, a good friend of some of the people in my family of Ivanka and they say she's really good, really competent and he just retained her. So that's a good signal.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

Have to follow his lead.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Well, look, I hope they have great leaders. This is a man that right now I think is focused on New York City. I really think he has a chance to do a great job. Going to help him, but I really think he has a chance to do a great job. But I'll let you answer that. Do you consider yourself the leader of the Democrats? I think it's more appropriate for him.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

I consider myself the next mayor of New York City and I keep my horizons firmly on New York City and I appreciate the meeting with the president which focused again on the five boroughs and whether New Yorkers could afford to live there.

[Zoran Mamdani]

By the way, being the mayor of New York City is a big deal. I always said, you know, one of the things I would love to be someday is the mayor of New York City being the mayor of New York and especially now because I think you're.

[Stu]

It goes on and on and on.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah, yeah, it could go great or it can go in a different direction. And I think you really have a chance to make it all right.

[Pat]

We got it. But in all, concessions are made by Trump. Not one from Ziran Mandani, not one. The guy sticks to his, his pre destined answers and no matter what the question, he's just going to go to what he's already decided he's going to answer.

[Stu]

And that's what he did throughout the entire, that's what he did the whole time message was impressive from the Ramdani campaign. I will say he puts a smile on all of these policies that have ended the lives of hundreds of millions of people. And he's good at, he's really good at that. I will say. Patek, you know, I had watched this and I had, I had seen it in full context, you know, with all the back and forth. The reporter questions all of that. To see it edited together and all those moments at once there, there's a lot of them. There's more than I remembered from the first watch of just Trump jumping in.

[Pat]

And really defending and defending over and over and over again.

[Stu]

That seems like more of a sincere effort than I think I gave it credit for there. That, that seems like he's trying to win him over to, to at least get, get the absolute best possible outcome there. I mean, look, there are obviously big disagreements between the two. There's gonna be those moments, but that doesn't seem like one of those where you're just kind of throwing it out there and he's stepping, I mean, this is not a good thing to say when you're talking about the President of the United States when there's Democratic fundraisers shooting him all the time, but he's stepping in the fire there.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Trump is stepping in the way of the bullets in political context there to protect Mom, Donnie from tough questions from reporters that are friendly to Trump.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

I mean, he is, like, doing everything.

[Pat]

Again, the concession of, yeah, just say yes. Just say yes. You still think I'm a, I'm a fascist.

[Stu]

Gets him out of that tough part.

[Pat]

Got him out of it.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

What's he gonna say then? Of course, he said yes after that. So, I mean, it's, what do you think?

[Stu]

What was that mean? Is it just the typical Trump negotiations that, the stuff that he normally does, or is there something else at play?

[Pat]

That's what most people think. I, I, I don't know, frankly. I don't know. It's just bothersome to me. I don't want to legitimize Zaran Mamdani in his capacity as mayor, but that's what just happened. He's been legitimized now, really, by the President of the United States. You would live in New York City under this guy. You'd be okay with that. You'd be fine. Where as most, you know, wealthy people are at least considering leaving New York City over it, he's, he's going to be an absolute disaster. But, you know, maybe it's, maybe it's good that he took this tactic. I don't know. Yeah. Afterward and saves New York. I don't want him to have to do that, though, because that's us saving New York, not, not Donald Trump. If the federal government has to then bail him out of all of his bad decisions, that affects all of us.

[Stu]

Oh, 100%. I mean, I guess the hope is he's gonna get him to work on certain things. You know, in a way, this is the type of approach I've always feared that the Democrats would discover with Donald Trump, which was, you know, kind of kiss his butt and work with him and try to get what you can out of the administration. If they had taken that approach, they would have gotten a lot of stuff and they would have. Luckily they just, they went the he's Hitler approach, which means they never got anything out of him, or at least not many things. I'm glad they never took that approach because it probably would have been effective because stuff like this, he has certain things that are part of his ideology. Right. You could argue the border, you could argue, go back and forth on what you think it is. Maybe a pro business vibe. There's a bunch of different stuff, but there's a lot of stuff that normally falls into the hardcore ideological world of politics that don't really affect Trump the same way. True. Like something like abortion. I think abortion. He worked with the people who he liked and who helped him on a really positive move toward abortion, certainly with the Supreme Court. That is a massive change and one of the things he should get most credit for of his entire run for two terms. But I don't think abortion is a core Donald Trump issue that he thinks about every day. How to make the pro life cause be advanced. I don't think that's what he does. There's other things he thinks about that are really important to all of us.

[Pat]

I think a border is crime border.

[Stu]

I think those things are. Tariffs are certainly in the core belief of Donald Trump. So those things are really. And he does work to move those forth every day. So I think what he looks at it as is how can I make this a less impactful disaster than it otherwise might be? And that might be his approach there. I said that was an honest answer to one of those questions. And there was a small slice of it that was honest. A lot of it wasn't. I mean, a lot of it was like, hey, I think he's gonna do a great job for New York City. Donald Trump does not believe that Zoran Mamdani is going to do a great job for New York City. He's saying that because this is his current position. Now, when Mamdani violates some immigration thing that he wants in three weeks, he's going to say the opposite, because that's what he wants to say at that time. And that's the way he's run his presidency and his administration since the beginning, oftentimes to really impressive results. So that might just be what happens here. But it is. I am as uncomfortable with it as you are when it comes to the words. Because the words are, look, this guy is not. This is not Eric Adams coming into office as a Democrat. This is not Michael Bloomberg.

[Pat]

It's not a normal mayor of New York City. No even Democrat mayor of New York. He's not a Democrat and he's.

[Stu]

No, he's a democratic socialist.

[Pat]

Never said he was really. 888900 or triple 8727 Beck more coming.

[Stu]

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Exactly. Yeah.

[Pat]

Welcome, welcome. It's Patton Stu for Glenn today. Triple 8727 Beck Also, Mamdani had a couple of moments. First of all, he was talking about the Israeli government, had some interesting things to say as he was standing next to President Trump.

[Stu]

Cut 4 I've spoken about the Israeli.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

Government committing genocide and I've spoken about.

[Pat]

Our government funding it.

[Zoran Mamdani (Mayor of New York City)]

And I shared with the president in our meeting about the concern that many New Yorkers have of wanting their tax dollars to go towards the benefit of New Yorkers and their ability to afford basic dign. And what we see right now is we're in the ninth consecutive year of more than 100,000 schoolchildren being homeless in our city. And there's a desperate need not only for the following of human rights but also the following through on the promises we've made New Yorkers. And I appreciated the meeting we had and the work that we can do.

[Pat]

Okay. I just can't A genocide from Israel. Stop it.

[Stu]

They're terrible at it.

[Pat]

Stop it.

[Stu]

They're terrible.

[Pat]

They're the most genociders in the history of genocide.

[Stu]

This is. Whoever the head coach of genocide is needs to be fired. They're terrible at it. Oh my gosh, the population of this area keeps increasing and they keep telling.

[Pat]

Him, hey, we're about to blow up this building, you need to leave.

[Stu]

They're awful.

[Pat]

If you're trying to commit genocide, that's not the way to go about it. A little hint there for the Israelis.

[Stu]

And I think Mamdani can help with this because he seems to have studied some of his deep thinking. But like, if you want to look at a genocide, you look at someone like Hitler and try to, you know, do what he did. You know, Mamdani can help you. I'm sure with many of the tactics can walk you you through them. But I will say that doesn't seem what they see they're doing in Israel at all. It's so insanely stupid to call it a genocide in the first place. And you have a guy here who is actually solving problems in the Middle east sitting right next to. And again, this is a point he could have stepped up and said, first of all, that's a lie. Secondly, we're doing important work there.

[Pat]

But again, secondly, we brought peace to the Middle East. Yeah, at least point that out.

[Stu]

At least point that out. What's interesting about Trump here, and this goes back to what I was initially talking about, don't focus on what he says, focus on what he does. What he does is work to make the Middle east peace actually happen.

[Pat]

He really has to.

[Stu]

That's what he does, what he says. In these situations, a lot of times are let downs to me. I mean, North Korea was the same way. He'd be like, I gotta blow this guy up. And two days later he'd be like, he's my best friend. None of this means anything in real life. Trump doesn't think about these. He does not think about words the way others do, which is a weird thing to say about somebody. But it's true. He looks at them as tools to get to outcomes. And that is, I think, I think what's happening here. If we see him do things that have him moving towards mom, Donnie, we of course will be really critical of him. But like, I just don't think that's. Doesn't seem to be on the table. Table.

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[Pat]

That great stupor gear for Glenn today. Triple 8727 Beck. You know, we're talking about Mum Donnie and his meeting with President Trump at the White House on Friday. The guy is just smooth as silk. He's just so smarmy and in an awful way. In an awful way. Yeah.

[Stu]

A bit of a Gavin Newsome way, like in that.

[Pat]

Very much so.

[Stu]

It immediately strikes me as really irritating.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

You know, but like, some people don't see through it.

[Pat]

They gravitate to it.

[Stu]

Yeah. I mean, he's a very much a huckster, you know what I mean? He's one of those people who can kind of like, you know, he's the person. He's a very snake oil salesman type of guy.

[Pat]

Big time.

[Stu]

But he is very disciplined.

[Pat]

Yeah. And he delivers communism with a smile.

[Stu]

With a smile.

[Pat]

And it sounds so nice.

[Stu]

The smile seems completely fake to me and I don't understand why anyone could look at it and be like, oh, this is a believably happy person. Like, that does not strike me as Mamdani at all.

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

But like, I do worry about him getting in the room with many politicians. I think Trump sees through that or at least tolerates it. He's. I mean, look, the guy's dealt with tougher people than Mamdani and, and, and come out many times ahead of them. So I'm not. I think he knows this game and is good at it and knows how to play it, but like, you know, I just saw Mom Donnie fool an entire city.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

So I'm. I am worried about. About some of this.

[Pat]

Me, too.

[Stu]

It's. It's natural to be worried about it. He really did just do this to the. You know, to New York, like. And one of the reasons why he was able to do it, Pat, is because he never let the veil drop. Drop. He didn't let the veil drop through the entire campaign. Now, before the campaign started, we saw who he was all the time. He was on podcast after podcast online, constantly admitting to crimes of thought, the evil thought crime that should have disqualified him from a job like this.

[Pat]

He's on board with the globalized Z Intifada stuff? Yeah, completely on board with that. He's pretty clear anti Semite.

[Stu]

He talked about seizing the meat of production.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

The man talked as if he was reading out of the Communist Manifesto over and over and over again in New York City's like, yeah, we're the financial.

[Pat]

Capital of the world.

[Stu]

Let's give this a whirl.

[Pat]

Which is why he only had 2% at the start of the year. Yeah, he had, like, 2% in polls.

[Stu]

He was.

[Pat]

Cuomo was at 40 or something. Well, at the time, of course.

[Stu]

Like, you know, Mamdani starts this as an unaccomplished zilch. Right?

[Pat]

That's who he is.

[Stu]

He's never accomplished anything his entire life. He's a total zero of a human being. He was gifted. The worst human being society has produced since World War II to run against in Andrew Cuomo. Okay. So, like, I mean, look, there's. I don't. And I mean this even to the point of I have very low opinion of the voters of New York. I am, by the way, born in New York. I'm. You know, that's. You know, I didn't grow up there for that long. I got out as fast as I could, but I was. You know, there's. There's things about New York I very much understand as a person who grew up in that area my entire life and was born there. You know, I. I love New York in many ways. The New York voter I have very little faith in. They obviously fall for stuff all the time. I don't think with the absence of Andrew Cuomo, this happens. Andrew Cuomo is the core part of this problem that made this available as an outcome. I don't think him running against a normal Democrat leaves Mamdani winning this election. Cuomo is uniquely terrible, but uniquely terrible with massive name recognition. So he was able to get himself. Himself through. He wasn't even able to get through his own primary, but was able to get through to a place where he was on the ballot and made this into a thing. Look, he should have never. I think a normal Democrat does not lose that primary to his or on Mamdani. I don't think that there was a huge.

[Pat]

Would you say Eric Adams is a normal Democrat?

[Stu]

I would not say Eric Adams is a normal Democrat. He was a lost cause going into that. But if you put a person.

[Pat]

You.

[Stu]

Think of the sort of like, like Bloomberg Ish Democrat, which, you know, he's been a Democrat for a very long time. Yes. He started as a Republican, but he's been a Democrat for a very long time. That type of person I think smokes Bom Donnie.

[Pat]

He was a Democrat when he was a Republican.

[Stu]

Yes, he was. And then he was an Independent and he was also a Democrat. And then he was a Democrat. As a Democrat, yes. But that type of person I think smokes Momdani. I don't think it was a, an outcry for hardcore socialism from. From New York. But he's going to take it.

[Pat]

Sadly, that's.

[Stu]

Yeah, Mom, Daddy's going to take it that way.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

And you know, I think, I think what's fascinating about this and I think I'm curious if you feel the same way on this. He went through the entire campaign without dropping the veil one time. Yes. He never backed down on anything he believed. But he spoke it smoothly with a smile beforehand. He said he was very honest. The campaign started, he became dishonest. He never said he wasn't going to do these things that he promised previously. He just said them with a smile and massaged them until he won.

[Pat]

Yeah. Then when we shining through one moment.

[Stu]

Of who he actually was is the campaign acceptance speech, the victory speech afterward. Do you agree with that?

[Pat]

Yo, Absolutely.

[Stu]

That's who he was.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

The entire time.

[Pat]

Yep.

[Stu]

And that sounded like a guy who.

[Pat]

You know, that sounded like a communist dictator. It sounded like a guy like a Joseph Stalin type. Yeah.

[Stu]

Sounded like a guy who just, you know, was the, the beneficiary of a military coup. Yeah, that's what it sounded like.

[Pat]

Really did.

[Stu]

And he. That's who he is. But then he put the veil back on and you know he's gonna go schmooze down now. I think Trump could see through this.

[Pat]

He put the veil back on though. Cuz he needs money and he's trying to hit people up for more. Millions of dollars.

[Stu]

You need it for what he wants.

[Pat]

To do for the transition. Yeah. And he keeps saying that, you know, is, this is, I don't want to come to you for more money, but I'm doing it, and he does it all the time, and so we'll see if that works on people. I. I can't imagine anybody giving him a dime. How stupid do you have to be to help this guy? In his plans, of course, they voted for him, so I guess they're already there.

[Stu]

And there is a part of me, and it's not that I wouldn't say it's the part of me I'm most proud of, but part of me that's just like, you know, you guys have been fooling with this stuff for a real long time.

[Pat]

Congratulations.

[Stu]

Congratulations.

[Pat]

The problem is we're going to pay for it when they fail.

[Stu]

Are we?

[Pat]

I think so. I think New York's too big to fail, and certainly Trump will feel that way, and the federal government will bail them out. And that's us. That's us.

[Stu]

That sucks. That's why it's not the best part. I don't think it's a good strategy to, like, hey, let's turn over the financial center of the world to communists.

[Pat]

Yeah, I don't think that's a good.

[Stu]

Strategy, but in a way, it is a pretty interesting experiment. You know, we've been talking about this for so long. I feel like we've had these same conversations for so long in this country. It is fascinating to see this play out on a real stage, and I don't know how he's gonna turn out. And this might have been Trump's theory here with this meeting, in that there are two ways this could go. I have a real opinion on which way it's gonna go here, which is, I think Mamdani is a true believer. He's not gonna back down on any of this stuff. And he's gonna try to talk his way out of the hard outcomes of this. Right. He's gonna try to BS his way through with smiles and. And nonsense, and he believes he's a good enough talker and he's smart enough that nobody thinks Mamdani's smarter than Mamdani. And I think he's gonna go out there and try to schmooze everybody into thinking this is working the whole time. That's what I think is gonna happen. I think he's gonna try to implement all this crap. The other way that this goes is it's a bad outcome for New York, but it's more of the de Blasio outcome, which is. De Blasio also was a real true believer getting into that office. And he did try to do a lot of those things. But number one, he wasn't well liked. When he started doing these things, people pushed back against them. There were enough corrupt Democrats in the city that tried to stop him because they had corrupt interests with other businesses and things like that. And, you know, while de Blasio did real damage to New York and he left incredibly unpopular and it was a bad period for New York, it wasn't the catastrophic outcome that could come from Mamdani. So if you can massage Mamdani into a de Blasio, what you get is just normal New York bad, which happens often there. Right. Like, I think, you know, you saw the same thing with David Dinkins back in the day. You know, that led to Giuliani. And maybe there's something. You never know how these things turn out. You never know. I mean, a lot of people who love the Trump second term are kind of like, now saying, I'm kind of glad he lost in 2020, because it brought this new guy in 2024. And a lot of people appreciate that. So you never know how these things turn out. I do think it's fascinating to look at his approach to people like this, though, because I think one thing that a lot of his friends, people who really support Donald Trump, Trump say and believe, and I think there's something to this, is he really is at times tougher on his friends than he is his enemies.

[Pat]

You know, I mean, he MTG's a good example of that.

[Stu]

Yes. Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's like, hey, I'd really like these, you know, sex abuse files to come out. Okay, I'm resigning. It's like, I get. I. I'm not. I wouldn't say I'm a Marjorie Taylor Greene, Stan myself, you know, but. But kind of a fascinating turn there, Pat.

[Pat]

I think if you were to compare the two. He's way harder on her.

[Stu]

Way harder.

[Pat]

He's been on Mandani at least since.

[Stu]

He won by a lot. You know, he was harder than in the campaign.

[Pat]

Yes. Yeah, that's true.

[Stu]

He mentioned during that, that one part that I thought was a little damaging, honestly, from Trump's answers in real life, was when they're like, hey, you know, are you standing next to a jihadist? That's what, you know, Elise Stefanik said. She's like, ah, she's running a campaign. She says all sor stuff. It's like that kind of ruins. She's got a campaign to run here and now everyone is gonna say, well, you're saying this now, but Trump said you didn't even mean it. Tough spot to put her in. But I am curious here as to how this plays out. Marjorie Taylor Greene, I think if you have any criticism, I mean, there's many, but you'd have criticisms of Marjorie Taylor Greene. It was like she was almost so supportive to Trump. You'd never thought she'd ever disagree with him ever in her ent existence. And then she has a couple of disagreements on things. By the way, Trump previously supported when it comes to the Epstein files and she's tossed to the side now. I had real problems with Marjorie Taylor Greene and the way she was approaching healthcare, for example, and basically arguing for the Democrats position on it. Maybe that's more what this is about for Trump than Epstein. I don't know. But that was a shocking turn. And the fact that she's just kind of on a Friday night video was like, all right, see you.

[Pat]

I mean, maybe she got an offer from the View or something and that's going to pay her a lot more money than she's making in Congress. And, you know, you might notice that she's staying until after her. Her money kicks in.

[Stu]

Oh, yes, there's a pension situation.

[Pat]

Pension situation. So she's going to be paid for life.

[Stu]

I mean, can you blame her?

[Pat]

I know.

[Stu]

I mean, if you had gone through this and you're like, yeah, again, I.

[Pat]

You'd stay.

[Stu]

Most people are going to. I'm not. You're not going to drop out two weeks before you get it.

[Pat]

That's true. That is true.

[Stu]

I mean, and look, she's got a lot. She's very well off. Marjorie Taylor Greene. This is not someone who's like borderline, like, you know, I don't know if we're going to be able to make rent next month. Like, she's probably very well for herself over the years.

[Pat]

She has.

[Stu]

And I think she probably will go into media or something and do very well for herself after this. But that is a fascinating breakup. I don't think I.

[Pat]

It happens so quickly.

[Stu]

Wow.

[Pat]

Like, head spinningly quick.

[Stu]

What do you make of it? Is it him just trying to keep his base in line and saying, look, you don't, don't do this. Don't come out and have these big public disagreements with me. I want you to fall in line. If you want to talk to me about that stuff, talk to me behind the scenes.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

You know, and she was very outspoken about the Epstein thing from the very beginning. I don't think she changed her view on it at all.

[Pat]

Honestly, I don't think so. But here we are.

[Stu]

Here we are.

[Pat]

So she's leaving on January 5th.

[Stu]

Her leaving Congress is big for votes. I mean, there's only very small margins here. Losing a congresswoman. I don't know what the, I honestly haven't looked into what the replacement process is, how long that's gonna take. I don't think it's gonna be a super long gap there. But that's a gap where really you can, can't. It's going to be very difficult to win votes.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

So it's just from the numbers perspective, it's important. And then you add on to, I mean, you know, but he was promising to primary her.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

You know, and that's as as many Republicans have found out, it's not fun.

[Pat]

She didn't want to go through it more. Coming up.

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[Stu]

How?

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[Pat]

Pat and stew for Glenn Triple eight seven two seven B E C K. You know, with mom Donnie continuing to say that he still believes, he said it in the past, he still believes it today that Donald Trump is a fascist. Would a fascist have even met with this guy?

[Stu]

People don't understand what these terms mean.

[Pat]

Yeah, they don't, do they? He certainly does.

[Glenn Beck (Announcer)]

Doesn't.

[Pat]

Would a fascist have sat there and helped you through that press conference? No, not on your life. You know, what a fascist would have done is what I recommended, and that's have you arrested for the things you lied about on your application to come to this country and deported back to Uganda. That's what a fascist would have done. Or just somebody who cared about the law.

[Stu]

Law.

[Pat]

But I haven't heard any. I haven't even heard the definitive answer on that. Did he, in fact lie on his application to come to the United States? Do we know about that?

[Stu]

I don't. I mean, it certainly. Yeah, there's. Yeah, there were lots of rumors and reporting on that. Whether that's true or not, it's hard to know. It's kind of in that category of like, did Ilhan Omar marry her brother?

[Pat]

Pretty much, yes.

[Stu]

I mean, it's certainly.

[Pat]

I'm gonna say that way.

[Stu]

There's a lot of vindications that point.

[Pat]

That direction, but we just leave it alone. Let's not even look into it, because that would. How hard would that be to prove?

[Stu]

You know, it's. It's. In a way, it's sort of like the TikTok ban. Sure, we passed a law, and it was signed by the president and passed through both halls of Congress, and the Supreme Court unanimously upheld it. But what if we just don't do it? What if we just never.

[Pat]

What if we don't.

[Stu]

What if we just don't talk about it? Then this, then this, then this. What's this?

[Glenn Beck]

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[Pat]

This is great.

[Stu]

We're having a great. Donnie's here, Omar's here. Tick Tock's here. It's all here. It's great.

[Pat]

It's great.

[Stu]

What a great outcome.

[Pat]

We get this.

[Stu]

This is fantastic.

[Pat]

Congratulations, America.

[Stu]

What a wonderful world. We did it. Yeah. We solved all the world. If you just kind of shrug your shoulders and act like it didn't happen, then I guess it didn't happen.

[Pat]

I love it. All right, we got to get into rfk. Trip Junior poetry. We'll do that. Coming up.

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Down the road where shadows hide Feel.

[Stu]

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[Pat]

The.

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[Pat]

Sure is. What patent stew this week. 8887727 Beck RFK Jr. He's had an interesting life and continues to experience that interestingness. We'll tell you about the latest in that fascinating life coming up in one minute.

[Stu]

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[Pat]

All right. In this art article about RFK Jr's creepy poetry, they start out with some of his other issues, you know, that he's had in the past.

[Stu]

He's had some, a few, just a.

[Pat]

Couple that are somewhat eccentric, maybe you might say. Okay, like when he dumped a dead bear in Central park in New York City.

[Stu]

What else he gonna do with a dead bear?

[Pat]

Well, that's the natural thing to do. You're right. I don't know why they even bring that up.

[Stu]

Because obviously put it in Times Square. No, they put it in Central park, obviously. When you. Let's put it this way, when you get to the position that you have a dead bear in your possession and you're driving in Manhattan, where do you go? You go to Central Park. From that point of the story, it's a totally sensible decision. The previous parts of it, not so much. Not necessarily something we need to focus on.

[Pat]

How about when he sawed the head off a whale? I don't remember why he did that or really the circumstances surrounding it. I do remember that he did it.

[Stu]

Well, this is the thing. You've never been in the position where.

[Pat]

I've had a dead whale.

[Stu]

Dead whale.

[Pat]

Handy. And what are you gonna do? Obviously if you got the saw and you see the dead whale, you're gonna saw its head off. Right. What else are you going to do?

[Stu]

When you, when, when you have a hammer, everything's a nail.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

When you have a saw, you're just going to cut the head off of whatever's in front of you. And if it's a whale, thank God it was a whale and not a child.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

You know, with the Kennedy's past, who.

[Pat]

Knows what could have happened there?

[Stu]

But this is just a stupid dead whale. Wasn't even alive. He didn't even decapitate a live whale.

[Pat]

No, that's right.

[Stu]

It's a dead whale.

[Pat]

So you can't bl. Killing the whale. He was already dead.

[Stu]

It was already dead. Look, I don't know if whales have souls, you know, I mean, you don't know how to desecrate a corpse normally, but, like, I think with whales, it's probably okay.

[Pat]

Probably fine. It's probably fine. For my money, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[Stu]

You know, again, I haven't done too much deep thought on it.

[Pat]

You haven't? Really?

[Stu]

Because you know what? I've never been in that position, Pat.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

I can judge him easily by saying, oh, gosh, don't cut the head off.

[Pat]

A whale with a song, but walk a mile in his shoes. Exactly. On the beach, finding dead whales. What are you going to do?

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu]

If you're there, there's a whale there, there's a saw there.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu]

What else are you supposed to do with those two things?

[Pat]

Put some thought into it.

[Stu]

People would have been better off, right? No, no, it would have been worse, I think. I think it would have been worse if he cut his own foot off, I think so. Cut the whale's head off.

[Pat]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Stu]

So I think he made the only decision.

[Pat]

How about the time he claimed that a worm ate part of his brain?

[Stu]

Look, that's more on the worm than him. I. I don't see how he gets blamed for that. That's a worm issue. And the way. It's probably why he wanted to decapitate the whale. He was thinking about. Look at what this worm did to me.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

You know, I don't want this whale to get inside. You never know.

[Pat]

And you never know, and you never know. Then he denied that he took a bite out of a barbecued dog on a trip to South Korea in 2010.

[Stu]

I mean, he sent a photo with. With that indication, but he, you know.

[Pat]

He acted like he was taking a bite out.

[Stu]

Right.

[Pat]

But he claimed it was a goat, not a dog.

[Stu]

Right. Which, of course, obviously, we've all eaten entire goats. This setting. Yeah. Colorful existence, Pat. Of course, you're not even getting into his minor issues that have occurred with women in his life, let's put it that way.

[Pat]

Have there been some.

[Stu]

There's been a couple paths. You know, weird. He wrote about why haven't we found a very lengthy book that. That unfortunately, his wife found.

[Pat]

Oh, gosh.

[Stu]

And sadly ended her life over.

[Pat]

Over.

[Stu]

Allegedly.

[Pat]

Oh, man.

[Stu]

These, These antics. But you think a person in that perspective, one thing he's learned, number one, is that people treat your wife better. That was the number one thing. That's number three. I was gonna say number one. Number one, watch your placement of bear.

[Pat]

Okay. Placement of bears.

[Stu]

Watch what you saw off of things of whales, especially any. Any.

[Pat]

Even if they're beach.

[Stu]

I would say so.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

So you have those two things. And then the third thing would be maybe don't do things to your wife. Like, if you're getting. Because you don't. This is an interesting point, Pat. You don't legally have to get married. If you want to live a certain type of lifestyle, you are allowed to do that.

[Pat]

What you typically want to do is.

[Stu]

Just not be married while you're doing it. Now, that might have. There might be moral issues.

[Pat]

What a concept.

[Stu]

With such a thing. But like, generally speaking, you're not. It's more. It's not as frowned upon, I suppose, in our society, if you're doing these things in a promiscuous way outside of marriage, because then you're not necessarily violating that covenant that you made with the person that is your spouse. Okay, now you look at this. I think I'm with you so far. You think so? You look a little confused, but I think you're there.

[Pat]

I think I'm with you.

[Stu]

Now. RFK Jr. Has not necessarily gone down that path. In fact.

[Pat]

No, not necessarily. Because he is married to Cheryl Hines.

[Stu]

I always want to say Sherry or Terry. And that is not who he's married to. He's married to Cheryl Hines, who is in the Larry David thing. Curb your enthusiasm. Right. Was. Was Larry's wife.

[Pat]

She's been in a number of things, but that's probably the most recent big one.

[Stu]

It seems to be the thing that she's best known for, I would argue. And, you know, she has apparently released, I think, a book recently, has been out on tour. I think she's happy that this came out after the tour seemingly ended because I wouldn't necessarily want to get questions about it.

[Pat]

I think she would have liked it if it never happened in the first place. But maybe that's just me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what she's thinking. Or she might appreciate the fact that he's, you know, working on poems for other women.

[Stu]

Creativity is important.

[Pat]

It is important. And maybe he runs these by her to see if they work. I don't know. But he was writing poetry to Olivia Nutzy, who's a journalist and she actually says that she fell in love with him and made the mistake of telling him that.

[Stu]

Apparently she's made a lot of mistakes. Yes, seemingly many mistakes she's made. And we were learning about more and more of them seemingly every day. But we knew about this RFK Jr thing. To quickly go through the story, if you don't remember it, she profiled RFK Jr. She's a big journalist and Young had an incredible rise.

[Pat]

She worked for the New York Times at one point.

[Stu]

Point.

[Pat]

I think it's Vogue now. Right.

[Stu]

I think it was the New Yorker or New York Magazine. It was one of the two off the top. I can't remember which one it was. But she had gone to. She was Daily Beast. She's now at Vanity Fair after getting rewarded for all of this incredible behavior when it comes to journalistic ethics. But when she was with New York Magazine or New Yorker, whichever one it was, she profiled RFK Jr. And afterward they fell in love together. Apparently now they had never consummated the relationship. This is different than when she supposedly. When she fell in love with Mark Sanford and then they did consummate the relationship, which we.

[Pat]

And I believe she consummated the relationship also with Keith Olbermann.

[Stu]

Oh, yes.

[Pat]

Which is fun.

[Stu]

And.

[Pat]

Oh, that's fun.

[Stu]

Have you gone through the timeline of that one?

[Pat]

Not entirely, no.

[Stu]

Can I walk you through it real quick?

[Pat]

Sure.

[Stu]

Because I think you're gonna like it.

[Pat]

Sure.

[Stu]

I think you're. Well, I think what's gonna happen after I walk you through this timeline? Pat, you're have interesting questions.

[Pat]

Really?

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Stu]

Okay. Olivia Nutzi, current. Currently 32 years old.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Okay. That's 2025. In 2024, there was the blow up of this RFK Junior stuff and Keith Olbermann. It was known that they had a relationship at one point. And you'll see that relationship constantly referred to in one way and one way only, which is she was 21 years old and he was 55. That's what you'll read. And you'll think to yourself, wow, that's quite an age difference. And then you're supposed to stop thinking about it. And I want to stop. I want to encourage you for a moment. Moment. To continue thinking about it.

[Pat]

Okay.

[Stu]

Livia Nuzzi, currently 32 years old. Keith Olbermann in 2024 was quoted as saying that he hadn't talked to her in a decade. Now at that point, she's 31 years old. Little backing evidence of this. Ryan Lizza, the current fiance, say, refer to her time, which began after the Keith Olbermann debacle, as a lost decade. So we're pretty consistent here in the timeframe of that being 10 years. He has not talked to her in 10 years. It's a lost decade for Ryan Lizza. Okay, so 31. Now, if we want to help me with the math here, 31 minus 10 would be what?

[Pat]

21.

[Stu]

21. That's what we know about this relationship. They dated when he was 55 and she was 21.

[Pat]

Yes. Okay, I think I see where this is going.

[Stu]

Now, interestingly enough, we have a little bit more about the information about this particular relationship from, again, Keith Olbermann himself, when he was defending himself about the rumors that he paid $15,000 in gifts to Olivia Nuzzi. And his defense, I want to make clear this is Keith Olbermann's defense, is that it wasn't that much money to spend on her because they had to go through four different Christmases, birthdays, anniversaries, whatever. Why? Because they, quote, lived together for four plus years. Four plus years.

[Pat]

Now they're at 17, 16 and a half.

[Stu]

Maybe that plus is doing a lot of legal work because if that plus is a month, maybe he's on the right side of barely legal.

[Pat]

But she's 17 and he's 41. 51. Oh, my gosh.

[Stu]

Correct me if I'm wrong on the math. Maybe I am. But that is every piece of evidence we know about this. And he's the one that said four plus years and patience.

[Pat]

The wording's important there, man.

[Stu]

Four plus years of living together. Now, I don't know about you, Pat, but some in our society have developed the tradition of at least going on a couple of dates before you move in together. You know, now, I know we should. Waiting till marriage is the maybe more appropriate way of going about this. However, if you're, if you're just going to move in with someone, typically what occurs is a courtship of some sort. Now, I don't know as a 51 year old man, how you court someone who is 17 or 16 years old. Keith Olbermann might. Now, maybe there's some miscommunication here, maybe the word decade. I haven't talked to her in 10 years. Just throwing him out. And it was really only 7 or 8. It would still be very interestingly creepy, but he'd be on the right side.

[Pat]

Of the law there.

[Stu]

But might.

[Pat]

It might.

[Stu]

The truth might be that he wasn't. He seemingly. Pat took her directly out of high School and they moved in together. That is like, right where this line is, if what has been reported is accurate.

[Pat]

And the oldest, she was 18, right. At the oldest, I would say, seemingly.

[Stu]

Again, like, maybe he can correct this. Maybe he was flippant with his words when he said for. Because, remember, he was trying to defend his.

[Pat]

And Lizza have said it was 10 years.

[Stu]

It was 10 years. So they both.

[Pat]

10 years.

[Stu]

Both sides agree on that. And everyone has confirmed it's 21 years old. They were dating. The thing I think people are losing here is when you hear they were dating at 21, you assume they started dating when she was 21. What actually seemingly happened is that their relationship ended when she was 21.

[Pat]

Right, right.

[Stu]

And by the way, we should also note that both parties, both Lizza and Olivia Nutz, both basically seemed to claim that he was stalking her after it ended. This guy's just. Okay, this guy got how many jobs after all this happened?

[Pat]

It's amazing, really. His amazing.

[Stu]

His entire public career outside of ESPN seems to have occurred at this time.

[Pat]

And he was so indignant, too, over the jewelry thing. He was like, what was I supposed to do? Give her Walmart gift certificates?

[Stu]

Yeah, all right.

[Pat]

No, Mr. Elitist. No, we never expect that of you.

[Stu]

No, we expect you. I mean, to be clear, we expect a person like you to buy your teenager with a lot of money.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

It was consistent with what I thought of him, which is, yes, he purchased his teenagers at expensive prices. I wouldn't think Pat, for example, he would purchase his teenagers cheap. Cheaply.

[Pat]

No, you're right.

[Stu]

I would be surprised if he did that. Yeah, we saw that with Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein, to do a very valid comparison, was targeting teenagers in high school with much lower sums.

[Pat]

Yeah, 200 bucks.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu]

That's nothing compared to what Olbermann was offering for whatever activities occurred here.

[Pat]

Wow.

[Stu]

So that he's a big spender. That is a sidetrack. We did get sidetracked on the rpg, but it's. I gotta say, Pat, my favorite part of the story, I gotta say. And no one's focusing on that part of it. No. What people are talking about Overman. I heard someone say, like, Olbermann. Gosh, these. The people in this are so shady. He actually comes off as good. All he did was give her a bunch of money. Does he come off as good?

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

Does he? Because, number one, he's being. He's being accused of stalking, which is. Which is normally the type of thing that gets you in trouble, but apparently in this case, we're just all going to shrug our shoulders at it.

[Pat]

But I am curious at the timeline is interesting sometimes, Pat.

[Stu]

A successful movie franchise will occur. Three movies get made and then a couple years go by and they go back and they say, well, what was the origin story? I'd love to know that. What's the origin story of a 51 year old in elite media member hanging.

[Pat]

Out in a middle school with a high schooler? What is that story? Unreal.

[Stu]

Like, were they.

[Pat]

Were they at the Unreal.

[Stu]

Were they at the same high school dance? How did it happen? I'm so curious. I would love to know.

[Pat]

Triple eight. Seven two seven back more. Come on. One minute.

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[Stu]

No, no, I. I will say this, Pat. We were just talking about the Overman thing. Or here I would just say release the Oberman files is what I would say.

[Pat]

Yes, please.

[Stu]

There's got to be.

[Pat]

Yes, please.

[Stu]

More information. Yeah, you know, maybe it's just Keith admitting the timeline, whatever that is, but. Release the Oberman files. I would love to know.

[Pat]

Me too.

[Stu]

Just, you know, as a. As an interested observer. Because that timeline is very strange. Yeah. To say the least.

[Pat]

Yeah. And maybe borderline or maybe over the line illegal.

[Stu]

It could be, by the way, in this process of following this timeline, I did look up the age of consent in New York, which is to I would say, no one's surprise.

[Pat]

Seventeen. Stunning. Stunning.

[Stu]

And by the way, you know, this event, whatever happens here with Olbermann sets her life down this course, which is awful. I mean, you know, she seems to be talented as a writer and a journalist, Although some of the writing in this book seems to be pretty bad. RFK Jr. Style writing. Maybe we'll finish that off here in a second. But, like, you know, you start off when you're a teenager and you're taken out of what seems to be a bad home. I think this is by her telling of the story that she had a rough situation at home at this period. And Liz, I think, said this as well, that you leave that and this man in his 50s comes to rescue you out of this life.

[Pat]

That's another similarity to the Epstein stuff.

[Stu]

That's interesting, Patrick.

[Pat]

Yeah, A lot of those victims were very troubled, had very troubled lives. And here was a guy, a really rich guy, offering them a different path. Hey, you know what? Come over and give me a massage, and I'll take you around the world. Give you 200 every time.

[Stu]

Now, obviously, you know, old brim wouldn't do it that cheaply.

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

Would you say no? What'd you say? Like, I don't. I'll just. Just. Sometimes we get down all these roads. I want to make sure I summarize something appropriately, but would you say that the one difference between Olbermann and Epstein is the amount that they paid?

[Pat]

Allegedly? Yes.

[Stu]

Again, I had a question mark at the end of that, by the way. Would you say.

[Pat]

Would I say that?

[Stu]

That is the one?

[Pat]

I would say it's possible. Yeah, I'd say it's possible. That's the only difference.

[Stu]

And you say that allegedly.

[Pat]

Allegedly possible.

[Stu]

And to Keith's one very brief argument on his behalf, frequency might be also the issue.

[Pat]

It was more of a.

[Stu]

What? He didn't want these, like, these flings. He was looking for a lasting relationship with a teenager.

[Pat]

He's not trying to allegedly create a harem.

[Stu]

Allegedly.

[Pat]

Right, right.

[Stu]

It wasn't like he was constantly in high schools that we know of. We just know that at one time.

[Pat]

Allegedly is apparently at other high school dance somewhere and met somebody who was, you know, not even graduated from high school. Maybe. Perhaps.

[Stu]

Perhaps we don't know. Again, the details are important.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

Right here. We need to know the timelines.

[Pat]

But I. I'm sure we'll see him out on his balcony on the west side of New York, and he'll be talking about it.

[Stu]

I'm sure.

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[Pat]

It's Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. All right. We took a little detour on our story of RFK Jr. You think an interesting one and it very, very interesting one on Keith Olbermann. But RFK Jr. Has a little issue here now with the poetry he was writing for his, I guess just online lover, text lover kind of I think person.

[Stu]

I mean who knows what they were working toward?

[Pat]

Who knows?

[Stu]

Well, I think we know but it hadn't been consummated yet. Unlike the per some of her previous affairs. Okay, allegedly.

[Pat]

But she did claim she was in love with him and I guess that was returned. I don't know but seems like it.

[Stu]

Was reciprocated that we don't have all the details on. On that we don't have all the details of some of it and we can't. The details that we do have we can't tell you all about. Yeah, unfortunately.

[Pat]

We could give you one poem that he wrote to her sort of. I mean it's still a little suggestive. Ish. But he wrote her poetry and again I, I don't, I don't think he ran this by Cheryl, his wife.

[Stu]

She's a creative type though. You'd think maybe she'd have a good opinion on it.

[Pat]

She might, you know, she might.

[Stu]

Might. Let me ask you this, Pat. Ever written a poem in a Text. I have not in your entire life.

[Pat]

Never. No.

[Stu]

You know, me neither.

[Pat]

Are we.

[Stu]

Are we the weird ones?

[Pat]

Maybe. Maybe.

[Stu]

Maybe.

[Pat]

Here's. Here's one of the poems he wrote to. The only one we can really tell you about on the air. I mean, to squeeze your cheeks, to force your mouth open. I am a river, you are my canyon.

[Stu]

This is awful. This is the good stuff. I mean, this is the stuff we can actually read.

[Pat]

Yeah. I mean to flow through you. I mean, to subdue and tame you, my love.

[Stu]

Oh, well, he wrote love.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Zoran Mamdani]

Yeah.

[Stu]

That's nice.

[Pat]

Isn't that beautiful and romantic?

[Stu]

That's a good.

[Pat]

Tell me you. Your. Your wife wouldn't love that.

[Stu]

I mean, who wouldn't swoon. Who wouldn't. Something like that?

[Pat]

Are you kidding me? That is beautiful. That is really, really lovely.

[Stu]

How. Oh, very strange. And I will say you should thank us for not walking you any deeper down this particular road, because you do not want to know. I feel like there's unfortunately many people who will go and read more about this and learn new sexual terms I wasn't familiar with. And we'll. We'll then do the math as to what RFK Jr. S role is in that particular process and want to jump out of a building. So I will say you should not go research any of this today. That would be my. Certainly don't Google anything you find in the articles about it, but does not seem to be. I don't understand how these things, like, I don't understand how relationships stay together after such things. Things, you know, like, he's still married. She was out kind of like defending him on the campaign trail or. I don't know. Campaign trail, I guess is the wrong word on her book tour. But like, you know, talking about how she. You know.

[Pat]

Because it came out that they had a relationship through texting. Right.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

During that time. I don't think the poems, the poetry had come out yet.

[Stu]

I think he sort of denied it at the time. But again, you know, the word of a Kennedy when it comes to relationships. I would not prioritize too high.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

On your. On your. On your sort of pyramid of trust. But it's. It's pretty. Pretty rough. I would say. Some of the. Be some of the at least alleged topics breached. I wouldn't say particularly. Don't sound very healthy now.

[Pat]

It was. It was Ryan.

[Stu]

Say, when you're talking about Make America Healthy Again, you might want to listen to RFK Jr. On his workout routine and less about his. His sexual exploits.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Because those don't seem healthy at all.

[Pat]

No. It was Ryan Lizza, her fiance or former fiance, who found this stuff. Right. And. And released it.

[Stu]

Yeah. And he. Yes, I think that's. He did discover that he was not the initial person who discovered. I believe one of her media, media like, mentors, was the first one who brought it the attention of New York Magazine, I believe was the publication. And we should note it had nothing to do with the fact that she was sleeping around or wanting to sleep around or any of that. What it had to do was a supposed violation of journalistic ethics. That was the problem with all of this coming out, because she had profiled the guy. You can't be.

[Pat]

That's a problem.

[Stu]

Again, it's one thing to have an affair, which is problematic enough for many, but I will say, when you're doing it in that realm of sleeping with your source, sleeping with the person, you're not only just a source, but someone you're profiling. Like, because of all this, Pat, I don't know if you even watched it at the time, but because of all of this. There was a famous tweet from Olivia nuzzi back in 2015 where she said, why does Hollywood always portray female journalists as sleeping with their sources? And she was angry about this. She wrote a piece about it, and the picture and the conversation at the time was of Kate Mara, who is an actress playing the role of Zoe Barnes on House of Cards. Now, did you watch House of Cards at all back in the day? First of all, House of Cards, at least the early seasons, is fantastic. It is a great series. It's really, really good. And Zoe Barnes is this young female reporter who is trying to get ahead and can't. She's writing stupid stories nobody cares about and decides to take it to a new level. One of the things she does in this is to sleep with her source, which is a congressman played by Kevin Spacey. And that was the conversation at the time, like, why are you portraying women like journalists like this? They don't do this. Now, we've seen many examples of them doing this, and Olivia Nuzzi became one of the examples of doing this. What's funny about that particular show, because of that, I went back and started watching it again. And yes, she does sleep with her source, Kevin Spacey. Another thing she does, which never gets any criticism, was she went to him and said, basically, I want to get stories from you. I will print whatever you want without any questions. She's just like, I will do your bidding to get ahead. Right. That eventually leads to sex, but that's how it starts. And no journalist seems to have any denial on that one. There's not like there's no articles, no think pieces written about it. You know, women journalists shouldn't be portrayed as writing anything politicians want them to say. Yet. Gosh, I see that reflected in the reporting maybe more than the sexual escapades.

[Pat]

Yeah. Wow.

[Stu]

Hmm.

[Pat]

For his part, Ryan, Liz has said, I can't say there weren't any signs of a problem with her.

[Stu]

No.

[Pat]

I did find it odd that Olivia was simultaneously reading Robert Greene's the Art of Seduction and Maureen Callahan's Ask not the Kennedys and the Women They Destroyed. So she's reading both of those books at the same time. And that might have been a clue to him.

[Stu]

See that there's a particular focus.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

A particular obsession.

[Pat]

Yeah. Or a little something going on behind the scenes there.

[Stu]

There.

[Pat]

Do you.

[Stu]

And this is. I don't know if this is a question you can answer, Pat, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Look, a lot of people in the audience really like RFK Jr. And you know, some of the things that he, you know, talks about, I can get behind. Like, I'm sure I, I'm in agreeance with him that we should not be mandating a vaccine, for example, of any sort. Like that should be a decision made by a family. So I am with him on that. There's several issues. He's a big bit bitcoin guy and I, I appreciate his newly found belief in, in.

[Pat]

He's been fairly good on the border recently.

[Stu]

Has been good on the border. So there are issues I agree with him on. Do you get like the heartthrob thing from him though?

[Pat]

No, I do not. I, you know, he's not my type. So maybe that's.

[Stu]

Maybe that's it.

[Pat]

Maybe that's it.

[Stu]

He's. I will say for us, maybe he's super dreamy year old man in good shape.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Works out in jeans all the time, which is always an interesting thing, but does seem to be in good shape, right?

[Pat]

Yeah, yeah, he does.

[Stu]

There are a lot of things though, when I look at him and just. I don't necessarily get it from a, especially from a 30 year old glamorous female reporter. Like, I don't.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

But I mean, again, I'm not a 30 year old famous glamorous female reporter. Even though I play one of the shows.

[Pat]

I noticed that. Yeah, I noticed that.

[Stu]

So maybe that's it. I don't know. That one's a Fascinating, entertaining one. Maybe the ladies in the audience can chime in on that. I don't know. My.

[Pat]

The appeal of RFK Jr because you.

[Stu]

Got the voice thing, which is tough for him, man. And that's tough in a lot of different ways.

[Glenn Beck (Announcer)]

I don't.

[Stu]

I know it's caused by some health issue.

[Pat]

Yeah. So it's.

[Stu]

It seems like he's been out in the sun a lot. Like, it just been like, it just.

[Pat]

You know, he kind of got that like leathery.

[Stu]

Leathery sort of vibe, which, you know, maybe, you know, some ladies kind of seem to like. I mean, it's like maybe a outdoorsy, you know, rough sort of guy. But again, he's a Kennedy. He hasn't been outdoors, I don't think all that much. I think he spent most of his time in his rooms.

[Pat]

He's been like a part time lumberjack or anything.

[Stu]

No, I don't think so.

[Pat]

That's weird.

[Stu]

But again, he. I am also a person who's never cut the head off a whale, you know, so that seemed like an outdoorsy activity. Maybe he is outdoors. He's more outdoorsy than I really. I think that actually is part of. Of the stated charm between.

[Pat]

Right. What about the dead bear? Have you ever dumped a dead bear in Central Park? No, you probably haven't.

[Stu]

Not, not even the ones Pat.

[Pat]

Has a worm ever eaten part of your brain?

[Stu]

No, not one. Not one.

[Pat]

Not that I know of.

[Stu]

I wanted. I lived in and worked in New York for several years. Almost never even went to Central Park. I tried to stay out of it as much as possible.

[Pat]

I don't. I think I might have gone once, but when we were there for what, three years?

[Stu]

I've been there a few times, but not many. Not many. I don't even understand it. Why is there a giant park in.

[Pat]

The middle of the city?

[Stu]

I don't get it.

[Pat]

Just for green space, I think. Right. Because all the concrete around it. Then somebody thought, hey, you know what, let's put about a mile's worth of green.

[Stu]

You know, parks. Like there's a. We used to work near Bryant park in New York.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Which is a block. And it's really nice. Like people go out, they watch movies. Movies in the park. They have like little ice skating during Christmas season. That seems to me to be an appropriate park. Central Park's really big. Really big. I don't understand the reasoning other than to give Billionaire Row some nice views.

[Pat]

I don't really get. I think that's the whole point right there. I think you Might have just put your finger on it.

[Stu]

That's probably why it stays. At the beginning it was built seemingly a totally different reason, but it wasn't that developed. You think with the amount of real estate and how much it's worth. Yeah, you know, I, you know, maybe I'm the only person in America in the position of really not getting the Central park thing, but I don't get it at all.

[Pat]

You just want to concrete it. You just want.

[Stu]

I would concrete over a nice cul de sac in there. You know, build some nice homes for these people, for these billionaires. They're all so high in the air. Maybe they want to get closer to the ground.

[Pat]

Triple eight, seven two, seven, Beck. More coming up.

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[Pat]

It's Pat and Stu for Glenn this week. 88727. Beck. We were just talking about EVS and how far they've come.

[Stu]

Electric vehicles. Yeah.

[Pat]

Yeah. And apparently the Chinese have made some advances. Yeah, Even Tesla hasn't made yet.

[Stu]

Yeah, they supposedly. It's interesting because we have, you know, tariffs that were put on by the, you know, during the, the Biden administration on Chinese electric vehicles and whether you can import them. And the tariffs are over 100%, so it basically makes it impossible for anyone to import one. It would double the price because they're too expensive. No one would pay the price. But I will say you look at the cars that they are producing, some of them are legitimately impressive. They are very, very fast, like Teslas are, or like the Lucas Lucid Air is or whatever. Very, very fast. Very, very luxurious. Incredible features, you know, place to think. Like giant screens in the back seats for like people, like with recliners in the back seats, all sorts of storage. I mean like some of them. And they look pretty good. There are some people, car people I talk to that are like, well, they're not built with the same quality. And I think that's probably true. But also, you know, they seem to be built of decent quality. The technology developing very, very fast there. They have a new charger that they've unveiled which is like, you know, five minutes from zero to 400 miles or something ridiculous like that, which is much better than even the chargers and the Tesla charger.

[Pat]

Like a gas fill up. Yeah, it's like you're filling up your gas tank. That's what I've been waiting for.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Really.

[Stu]

And the Tesla superchargers here are impressive. Like they're, they're pretty fast, but they're not that fast.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

And it's interesting because we're now at that point where we're keeping a lot of the Chinese stuff out, which I can understand. Right. There are reasons why I don't like the protectionist reasoning for it that a lot of people associate with. But this is an adversary and there's some real reasons to limit our interactions with them. But when they're developing things that a lot of people are reporting are on the level or above the level. AI is another example of what we're able to accomplish here. Separating ourself completely from the top ends of technology isn't always a good thing. The Soviet Union tried to do that back in the day and wound up with horrible cars. Every communist country tried that in the day. I'm not saying we're doing that, we're not doing at that level, and we certainly have much better technology than the Soviet Union did. But it does make me nervous that we will lose access to big developments like this. We better make sure. I think this is why Trump is so aggressive on stuff like AI. And I know it makes me squeamish at times, and I think it makes a lot of his supporters squeamish at times about how aggressive he's being, but I think that's why he's doing it. I think he's really worried about one of these other countries taking the lead and then taking over an industry. Like that. And then where are we? And not only economically but also technologically.

[Pat]

Now you got. Got it. The Tesla. Yes. It finally came and. And you let it drive you to work.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

It will do it.

[Pat]

You're completely comfortable with it?

[Stu]

Completely is not the right word. I am. I am blown away by how impressive of a feat it is for this thing to.

[Pat]

I mean that's incredible that it can do it.

[Stu]

Incredible. Maybe it's worth talking more about the experience, but it is. It's not perfect. And it. It's almost surprising that they like let it get on the market like this. Not from Tesla's perspective, but from like the government's perspective. Cuz they're always so like.

[Pat]

Cuz things can go wrong, right?

[Stu]

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. I. The other day I was just sitting at. I was just sitting at a Red Arrow. It's just wet.

[Pat]

Oh no. Really?

[Stu]

Yeah, I like slam on the brakes. O wow.

[Glenn Beck (Announcer)]

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[Stu]

We got a flown by today.

[Pat]

It really has. Really has. Now yesterday your Falcons lost.

[Stu]

I'm a big Falcons fan, as you know.

[Pat]

I mean not Falcons.

[Stu]

And talk more about the Falcons.

[Pat]

Darn Eagles lost.

[Stu]

Sad. Bad.

[Pat]

It's only the third time this year though, right? Yeah, that's not bad.

[Stu]

I mean, you put it in perspective. I'm not all that. I mean, you'd love to sweep a division rival. You'd love to put the division out of reach in November. These things don't always come to you though.

[Pat]

You lost to the hated Cowboys.

[Stu]

You hate that.

[Pat]

That hurt.

[Stu]

I mean, I would argue their Giants loss earlier this year was worse. Like they got legitimately handled and beaten by the New York Giants the entire game. They're weird because, you know, lots of penalties and turnovers and weird stuff. They don't normally. I wouldn't say I'm all that worried about it, but it did suck. Yeah, we'll say. So look, the Cowboys deserve a little bit of happiness. I like the people at Dallas, I don't like the Cowboys fans, but they deserve a little bit of happiness around here once in a while.

[Pat]

So you're willing to grant them that one?

[Stu]

No, I'm not at all willing to do it at the time.

[Pat]

You don't have a lot of choice right now.

[Stu]

I do fall back though. They still have a, I think two and a half game lead and the super bowl ring. So I'll take that.

[Pat]

That's kind of.

[Stu]

The shopping is hard, right?

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[Pat]

With patents too. This week, triple eight 727 Beck. Interesting tweet from the border patrol we're going to get into here in just one minute.

[Stu]

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[Pat]

All right, so what is this tweet that the border patrol just tweeted out?

[Stu]

Well, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll agree I think with the first line of it. Okay, which is this. It is not a crime to carry, carry over $10,000.

[Pat]

Oh no, yeah, I do agree with that.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

That is it should not be a crime to carry $10,000.

[Stu]

Now I will say I've never in my life carried over $10,000 that I can remember.

[Pat]

Yeah, they're a revive. But if somebody's doing that, if I want to do it, it's none of your business. Right.

[Stu]

I should be able to do it.

[Pat]

Why would border patrol even be talking about that?

[Stu]

Oh, it's, well, they have a.

[Pat]

Bit.

[Stu]

Of an addendum okay. To the initial statement, because normally you think I would. I would not mind at all if they just stated it is not a crime to spend over $10,000 and leave.

[Pat]

It at that period ended. Yeah. Okay.

[Stu]

It's not how the tweet ended, however.

[Pat]

Oh, boy.

[Stu]

The tweet went on. It said, it is not a crime to carry over $10,000. We just want to know about it.

[Pat]

You know what? Tough. You don't get to. And there's no reason for you to know about. About it. Why would you know about it? If I want to carry a hundred thousand dollars in cash and put it in my car and you pull me over for some reason, I don't have to tell you about the hundred thousand dollars I have in my car. Show me the law that says I got to tell border patrol about any cash I have on hand. There isn't one. So why would I. Why would I tell you about it? It's unbelievable. I mean, that is. That's civil asset forfeiture stuff. And they're just trying to take it from you. They just want to take it from you.

[Stu]

For the uninitiated, Pat, civil asset forfeiture, it's a big jihad of. Of both yours and mine. Y. I can't stand it. And it's.

[Pat]

Oh, my gosh. So unconstitutional. I don't understand how it continues to happen. This one.

[Stu]

Describe it.

[Pat]

Okay. If you get pulled over by border patrol or you get pulled over by, you know, state police, whatever. You're. You're speeding, and then they decide that they're going to search your car for whatever reason, like a dog hits on your car, and they find cash in your car, and they can confiscate that. And it's very difficult for you to get your money back.

[Stu]

Check.

[Pat]

Even if you've done nothing wrong, they can take your $10,000. If you have it on you and they don't have to charge you with a crime, they can just take your money.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

And then it's your job. It's your. It's. It's your obligation to go to them and file for your own money to. For them to give it back to you.

[Stu]

And they don't have to give it back.

[Pat]

They don't have a lot of cases.

[Stu]

Until you, you know, go to court many, many times. And many people. People lose and don't get their money.

[Pat]

Many people, yeah, many.

[Stu]

Now, the defense of this. I mean, it sounds so absurd, right? I think most people would think, okay, well, if they take the money, then, you know, once I'M cleared of the crime, I get it back. No, no, no.

[Pat]

In fact, not how it works. Again, they don't have to charge you with a crime, they don't even have.

[Stu]

To charge you with a crime. They just have to, they can just take your money based on a generalized suspicion that something might be going on.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

And that's it. And by the way, a lot of, you know, there's a lot of small town in particular law enforcement that winds up funding a big chunk of their operation based on stuff like this. And it's to me completely unconstitutional. It's not a close call. It's not a close call. It's your right to be able to drive around with a bunch of cash, that's yours. Now if you did something wrong and they have evidence to charge you with a crime and then I would argue also convict you of said crime. If they were to do that at that point it would be, then they can take your money, your ill gotten.

[Pat]

Booty at that point.

[Stu]

Exactly. That's not what we're talking about here.

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

Now law enforcement that I've talked to about this make the argument that this is sort of their way of capturing people that they know are doing things that are wrong but they can't quite prove it yet. Right. Like it gives them an in. Okay, they got a bunch of cash. Well why is that? Ask a bunch of questions, follow up and you wind up going, and many people times I'm sure this is true. It is a drug dealer or it is somebody in a criminal enterprise.

[Pat]

Right. But a lot of times it hasn't been. We've had stories of people who were going to go buy a truck and pay cash for it. People who had $500,000 on them. I don't know why, they shouldn't have to explain it, but they were never charged with a crime. This happened in Utah. They were pulled over, had half a million dollars or close to it for whatever reason. Reason.

[Glenn Beck]

But why?

[Pat]

But why?

[Stu]

Why? Here's the thing, you don't get that answer right.

[Pat]

That's the thing, that it's none of your business. If they didn't commit a crime and they weren't charged, they were never charged with a crime. I'm sorry, if you can't, if you don't have any evidence that they did something wrong to obtain the money, you got to give it back. You got it. In fact, you don't take it in the first place. This is America. Well, and I can, what I, what I'm driving with $500,000. That's crazy. A crime. No, no, it's not. No, it's not.

[Stu]

It's not a crime. Well, I should clarify that. What? Pat, how do you. What if it's unreported US Currency and.

[Pat]

It'S still not a crime?

[Stu]

Wait, what is you.

[Pat]

I don't report the currency. I don't have to report.

[Stu]

Don't have to. I don't think that's.

[Pat]

It is true. Because I'm reading to. You. Have to report it to you.

[Stu]

Let me give you more of this tweet if you think you're. You're so smart.

[Pat]

Okay, go ahead.

[Stu]

It's not a crime to carry over $10,000, right? We just want to know about it.

[Pat]

Yeah, I don't care what you want to know about. It is not my duty to tell you about it.

[Stu]

Well, officers in Texas. It's where we live, by the way. Seized over $70,000 of unreported US currency. This is a term actually being utilized by the government of the United States.

[Pat]

Sorry, I don't have to report my money to you.

[Stu]

No, you definitely.

[Pat]

Even if you pull me over, I don't have to. You know what? Now, a gun might be a different issue. If you get pulled over by an officer, you probably want to share with them. You know what? I. I have a concealed carry permit, and I've got a gun in the car. You might want to tell them that if I have cash in the car. That's none of your stinking business. And I don't have to tell you about it. I don't have to say it.

[Glenn Beck (Announcer)]

You know What?

[Pat]

I got $70,000 in the car. There's no reason to have to tell them that.

[Stu]

I mean, Pat, I didn't give you the rest of the story, and to.

[Pat]

Be fair, you didn't.

[Stu]

No. This because he apparently had the money concealed in the vehicle. No, it wasn't just on display on, like, his dash.

[Pat]

A lot of people with 70 grand put it on the dash, would display it on the dashboard. What kind of felon is this guy? Or at least put it on the passenger seat for all to see.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

You know what I mean? Or you tape it to the windshield.

[Stu]

Or at the very least, if you're going to put it in your trunk, a place that might. Might be concealed. You just want to put a sign saying there are. There's $70,000 in cash in this vehicle.

[Pat]

In my.

[Stu]

Just so everyone knows. Now, look, this particular case may have been a situation where a drug smuggler was bringing in. You know, and putting it in, like a fake, a false gas tank or something. Like something that would really indicate what's going on here.

[Pat]

But if it's concealed in the glove compartment, that's. Or under the seat. Yeah, you, you. That doesn't, that's not a problem.

[Stu]

No, it's. I mean, it's technically probably not a problem legally anywhere. Now, again, this border situation. So we do at times, you know, people come in and do customs. Right. Normally it's okay to carry fruit, for example, but if you're bringing in fruit from another country, they'll stop you and they'll say that fruit can't come in.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

There are different rules when it comes to this. So, you know, again, not talking about the specific case, I just, I feel that we are at a time where a lot of this, a lot of these lines are being crossed and.

[Pat]

Yeah. And it's not good. It's not good.

[Stu]

Even though, you know, I think as a community of the Glenn Beck program, Pat and Stu, the audience, Glenn, all working together, we all love the work that the border patrol is doing right now. They're doing really good work and protecting us. And I overwhelmingly have positive vibes that's not necessarily the case for some in our country. But I, generally speaking, think we're doing a good job on the border. We shouldn't cross lines like this, though, because it is not a, A, it is not a crime to carry around a bunch of cash. They might be ill advised.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

I mean, I would be nervous that it would be stolen.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

I would hope it wouldn't come from law enforcement taking it from me. Like that would be, that would be the thing. I wouldn't, I shouldn't be worried about.

[Pat]

And I will say, if you do have a whole bunch of money, you're not going to put it on display. Of course it's. Of course it's hidden and concealed.

[Stu]

Of course.

[Pat]

Obviously it would be stupid not to conceal $70,000.

[Stu]

There's really not another option.

[Pat]

No.

[Stu]

Like sometimes we'll be going somewhere in the car and my son will have $70,000 in cash. No, I'm kidding. My son will have his iPad or something and he's playing on his iPad as we're taking a long trip and we pull into a gas station or restaurant and I'll be like, slide the iPad under the seat or something so it's not just out there on display. Some casino border patrol pulled you over.

[Pat]

And taken the iPad from him. Feels like a rational concealed iPad.

[Stu]

We're going to take that what could that iPad be? You could do all sorts of illegal things on an iPad. Why are you hiding it?

[Pat]

Yeah. And again, we do love the work the border Patrol has done, and they. They do a heck of a job, and it's a thankless job, and they're getting all kinds of flack everywhere they go, but to just pull over somebody and find out they have $70,000 and just take it. Sorry. Well, that's not American.

[Stu]

Would it change your opinion if I told you they posted the picture of the money?

[Pat]

No, it would not.

[Stu]

They always do that. Like, we. We got all these drugs. Here's a picture of the drugs. Yeah, they always do that. They did it with money this time. It's just piles of money.

[Pat]

It's like, all right, now you're pissed at the person for having $70,000.

[Stu]

Why don't I have all that money?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Why is that given to me?

[Pat]

Right. You know, exactly.

[Stu]

Why don't I have rights to their money? I. I just voted in the New York City mayoral election. I was told I had rights to everybody else's money, man. I just.

[Pat]

I really.

[Stu]

We don't want to go down that road.

[Pat]

No, we don't. And in Texas, you know, they're probably. They experience this a lot more than, I don't know, Iowa probably does there. There's a lot of drug traffic. There's a lot of people that are smuggling drugs and probably cash across the border, you know, and I don't want to hinder that work. But for. For an American citizen to have $70,000 on him, that's not a problem. It's not a problem. And they shouldn't have to explain it to any law enforcement agency anywhere in America. Unless, you know, you've. You see, I don't know, cocaine spilled all over the floorboard or it's on their nose, or who knows? I mean, there might be hard evidence that you're seeing. Seeing there's a bloody knife in the back seat and you're. You see a body back there, then that might be a problem. You maybe look into it.

[Stu]

I mean, we don't, you know, but.

[Pat]

You don't know why. You know, you don't know why. Somebody just taking a nap back there with a bloody knife. That's happened. I mean, sure. I'm sure it's occurred somewhere at some point.

[Stu]

I mean, I would say, like, the typical officer is probably going to say, like, look, yes, it's not crime to carry $70,000 in cash that you've concealed in your vehicle. However, every Single time we've seen someone do it, it winds up being a crime attached to a criminal enterprise. And like, I get that.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Unfortunately, that's not the way the law is supposed to work.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

Again, it's the assumption of innocence.

[Pat]

And you should have to charge them with something. Yeah. If you're going to take them into custody, if you're going to take their money, you got to charge.

[Stu]

I would argue again, you shouldn't take it until you convict them of the crime. Like, I can't, you shouldn't be.

[Pat]

But still, I get a good argument.

[Stu]

Yeah, I get it. And they're like, well, what if they're gonna wind up sending that money somewhere else by the time. Yeah, that's probably true. But again, I, again, what do you prioritize? Do we prioritize getting a few thousand dollars out of their hands or do we prioritize constitutional protections? And like innocence, the presumption of innocence is a big deal. We argue about it all the time when we're talking about like anti woke things. For example, example when we say, hey, you know, maybe this person shouldn't be me too'd for the allegation of a joke 12 years ago. Like, that's, that's all based on a very foundational principle of presumption of innocence. We should assume, unless we have real evidence, assuming this person abused, you know, in some way, we should, we should assume their innocence. I mean, all these things. Like we, we very clearly assumed the innocence of Keith Olbermann earlier today when there was like legitimate timeline, it was.

[Pat]

Obvious we assumed innocent.

[Stu]

I assume, I assume when they says he was dating, he hasn't talked to the woman he was dating in 10 years when she's 31 and that they were lived together for four years. I assume there's just a number problem there. Like at some point you did mention that.

[Pat]

Yeah, maybe there's a. Maybe it was only six or seven years. Years.

[Stu]

Right. Like maybe he just said decade and meant something that didn't mean decade. You know, it's possible.

[Pat]

Oh, he's inaccurate with everything else. Maybe he was inaccurate with that 100%.

[Stu]

I've never heard him say anything factual.

[Pat]

Right.

[Stu]

So the fact that he would mess.

[Pat]

Up the dates, it's not surprising.

[Stu]

Maybe they only dated for six weeks and he said four plus years. I wouldn't put it past Keith Olbermann for just lying. Especially when he's defending himself like he seems. I would argue he does many, many times when I've seen him in the media. No question it's not told the truth. So perhaps it's just an extension of this. In fact, in this particular instance, it would be good for him if it was.

[Pat]

Yes, it would.

[Stu]

You know, yeah, it would. But that's what I mean. We always assume innocence on this program.

[Pat]

It's beautiful. Really. It's a beautiful thing. More coming up in one minute.

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[Pat]

It's Pat and Stew for Glenn today. This is fun. And I know, Stu, you're gonna, you're gonna love this because Jasmine Crockett.

[Stu]

Oh, I've already. I already love it.

[Pat]

You already love it.

[Stu]

I love.

[Pat]

You don't have to go any further.

[Stu]

Everything about her. I want more of her in our public view.

[Pat]

And you're about to get some because she's talking about running for Senate here. Okay, let's hear cut seven.

[Jasmine Crockett]

I. I am still thinking about running. We did get our polling back, so we are moving on to the next phase to deter.

[Pat]

Just a sec. If you could. What did your polling show? Because we leave that completely undiscussed. Love to hear what the polling says that you just got back because my guess is you're at about 1%. Come on.

[Stu]

I actually have seen some polling of her and the last Senate for Senate and I believe I could be wrong on this. But if my recollection is accurate, she is leading the the field of Democrats.

[Pat]

Of Democrats.

[Stu]

Now.

[Pat]

She's not Going to win Democrats state.

[Stu]

Which is one of the reasons why I really want her to win.

[Pat]

It would not surprise me if she wanted to win the Democrats.

[Stu]

Yes. Because she gets a lot of attention and incentives are aligned for her to be on television. Not only just on CNN or msnbc, but like Cold Bear and all these other things. There's a reason she's there. She's got name recognition. They put her against. I want to say it was Beto. And Beto.

[Pat]

Beto can't win any election. Election. Have they not realized that yet? Don't even let him run. It's just not. It's not going to happen with him.

[Stu]

But this is what I want Jasmine Crockett to be the new Beto. I want her running in every election.

[Pat]

Beyond that. You just said you must have it.

[Stu]

Not only do I want it, I must have it. I must have a Jasmine Crockett Senate run. It's the only thing that's fair to me.

[Pat]

And I think she would love her so much.

[Stu]

I really do.

[Pat]

I can't stand to listen to her.

[Stu]

I love her.

[Pat]

Oh, God.

[Stu]

She says everything the Democrats are thinking in the most impossibly stupid way. I love what she does. She brings. She gives you the easiest example of what is wrong with your opponent.

[Pat]

Yeah, she does.

[Stu]

And also the dumbest example. And that's, again, heavy lifting. It is in many ways.

[Pat]

Now, there are some dumb people who are Democrats.

[Stu]

Do I think that she's the dumbest person in Congress? No, that's Eric Swalwell. But I think outside of Swalwell and maybe aoc, she could be the dumbest. But she presents it in the dumbest possible way.

[Pat]

Have you forgotten Hank Johnson? Don't leave him out, please.

[Stu]

Hank Johnson's fantastic, too.

[Pat]

Again.

[Stu]

But, like, do you want more or less Hank Johnson? I want more. I don't want him to have any more power than he does. And to be clear, do I want Jasmine Crockett to run for Senate? Yes. Do I want Jasmine Crockett to run for president in 2020? Yes. Do I want her to win the Democratic nomination in both races? Yes. Do I want her to win the presidency? No. Do I want her to win the Senate seat? No. I want her to win every primary she can. I want her to feel as successful as possible. Because the more successful she feels, the more confident she gets and the more dumb stuff she says. So I. There is nothing about Jasmine Crockett that I don't adore.

[Pat]

And she believes she's a superstar, right? Right now she believes she will win the U.S. senate seat in Texas.

[Stu]

She 100% believes it.

[Pat]

And I don't think she cares whether it's against Cornyn or Paxton or even Ted Cruz. I think she believes she'd beat any of them. It's interesting. We'll get to this.

[Stu]

Her.

[Pat]

Oh, she.

[Stu]

And I love that about her.

[Pat]

Nobody loves Jasmine Crockett more than Jasmine Crockett.

[Stu]

100% true, Pat. And I love watching her go through this process. I love watching the Democratic media, media establishment reward her for the things that she does.

[Pat]

They do.

[Stu]

They do it over. And it's a real problem for Democrats right now. Because, look, there's no. There's no benefit in working, you know, working away at, you know, legislation that advances progressive causes. Like, that's boring.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

What they. What they. What wins, what gets you the things that you want is what Jasmine Crockett does. And that is a massive problem for both sides, but particularly the left.

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[Stu]

Whoa.

[Pat]

Whoa.

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Whoa.

[Pat]

Pat and Stew for Glenn this week. All right. We were trying to get through the Jasmine Crockett thing on. We're doing a great percentage. You did a great. We probably got three seconds worth. Yeah, I bet it's a lot full three seconds. That's not bad. It's hard to get through one second. But you love it.

[Stu]

I love it. I love every second of it.

[Pat]

Let's have more. Let's have. Let's start from the beginning and see if we can get all the way through this. Here she is talking about running for Senate.

[Jasmine Crockett]

I am still thinking about running. We did get our polling back. So we are moving on to the next phase to determine whether or not this is. Would make sense in the moment and if the infrastructure can be built out in the way that I see it being necessary to actually be able to win as well as we are continuing to look at the polling on the other side. Listen, they are in a civil war right now on the Republican side as it relates to who will become their nominee.

[Pat]

That's true.

[Jasmine Crockett]

You know, John Cornyn has served the state of Texas for decades at this point in time in some capacity. And right now, you know, I don't know if he's MAGA enough to make it through his primary. But we are evaluating all things and seeing what it would look like to put together a team. And we will make a final decision by Thanksgiving on whether or not we're going to ultimately move forward.

[Stu]

What did the polling information that you got back show?

[Glenn Beck]

Is it a calculation of whether or not you're going to be facing corners Cornyn, who might have more appeal to.

[Stu]

Moderates in your state and centrists in.

[Glenn Beck]

Your state as opposed to a more MAGA candidate who potentially defeats Cornyn in the primary that you might or any.

[Stu]

Democrat might have a better chance against? Hmm. Mm.

[Jasmine Crockett]

I'll tell you this, that head to head, we are doing really well against Paxton. I will. I will say that. I will also tell you that we are actually within the margin of the error as it relates to John Cornyn.

[Pat]

Oh, I don't believe so. To be perfectly honest for just a second. Is that margin of error like 30. Is it 30 points, plus or minus? That's got to be a massive margin of error at a very unreliable poll if she's within the margin of error. Anyway, let her finish here as it.

[Jasmine Crockett]

Relates to John Cornyn. So to be perfectly honest, the only reason that I'm continuing to consider whether or not I do this is because my polling says I can win. That is the bottom line. At the end of the day, a poll is a poll. And so you need to actually be able to execute on that. So whether it's Cornyn or whether it's Paxton, we feel confident that we can get this done. Do you think is we obviously would prefer to have Paxton?

[Pat]

Yeah. Is there one poll that says she's within two points of Paxton and what's the closest she is to corn. And 6.

[Stu]

6. There is one poll that. Yeah, that is true. Right.

[Glenn Beck (Announcer)]

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[Stu]

There's one pole that has her down, two to Paxton. There's not a lot of polling on this race yet.

[Pat]

Well, it's not till next year, so.

[Stu]

Right. And six to Cornyn, which is also relatively close. I mean, I think the, the Beto Cruz race was what, three or four points, I think, if I remember right. And that was considered to be very close at the the time. If you find the right environment, Pat, if you're a Democrat and you're thinking, okay, what's the right environment to actually pull this off? You need a big Democratic year, which it is not crazy to say we are about to face in 2026. It's not insane. I would not say it's guaranteed. The left really just wants to kind of lock this in. I would not say that's where we are. But typically, historically, this is what happens in the off year election when you're talking about a president in power. Usually he loses the House or the Senate and or at least does damage to his control of it during that period. That's normal. It's what we should all expect going in. That should be the baseline is that the Republicans are going to lose, particularly the House, but maybe even the Senate. That's the baseline. Then you look at, well, how are things going? Well, there's not great at the moment. There's a lot of questions about the economy. There's some things that have gone really well. I think a lot of things that are happy moments for the base of Trump, but not necessarily happy moments for the border is one of them. The border tactics are very popular among the base and his immigration policies when it comes to the border are relatively popular when it comes to taking people that are inside the country and removing them them like it doesn't do as well poll wise. How does that, what does that mean going into 2026? We don't know, but it's at very least some nervous moments, I think for Republicans. And if you get a really Democratic wave type moment and combining that with a state in Texas which is red but not Utah red, you know, not Idaho red, maybe you have a chance now. All that being said, and I'll also throw this out there, we like Ken Paxton. He's been on the show. Yeah, he's not like the most popular guy, I would say, in the state. He's won statewide elections and probably will do so again if he is to win the Senate primary. But it's not without question. John Cornyn.

[Pat]

I could corn and sucks.

[Stu]

Yes. That's what I was leading to.

[Pat]

Yeah. Cornyn sucks.

[Stu]

I would like. I would really like Cornyn to be replaced. I don't lose the seat.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

I would love a better Republican and Paxton would do a better job in the Senate, I think, than Cornyn does.

[Pat]

Cornyn's big thing right now, though, is, you know, Jasmine Crockett brought up. Is he MAGA enough? He watches commercials. He's more than maga, at least that's what he's saying if you talk to him.

[Stu]

Yes.

[Pat]

He's voted with Donald Trump 99% of the time. The man has. Has shut down the border and pulled Trump along with him. I guess if you're to watch the commercials, he is down on his ATV on the border all the time searching the wilderness for illegals.

[Stu]

He's like O.J. looking for the real killer. Yeah, that's what he's doing.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

All the time.

[Pat]

So, I mean, he's really trying to. To align himself with President Trump right now. Desperately trying to do that. And I don't know, maybe it's working because he's closed the gap a lot.

[Stu]

Has Trump endorsed him a lot? No, he has not endorsed in the race at all. You know, Trump does sometimes endorse the kind of establishment person they've worked with a lot. He's worked with a lot sometimes in these races. He's not done that here. And Paxton's. I mean, Paxton quite obviously is more maga, whatever that means. He's definitely been more on board with the Donald Trump over the years, and his issues are not necessarily policy issues. He's had some personal stuff that's been bumpy here in the state. So that's the kind of the big question here. But what I'm leading to more than anything else is that there is a formula in theory which the Democrats could win the state of Texas when it comes to a Senate seat. Jasmine Crockett is not part of that formula.

[Pat]

No, she's not.

[Stu]

She might win her primary, but. But she is not ideal to try to win a statewide race against.

[Pat]

That's why it'd be great if she's the nominee. It'd be awesome.

[Stu]

Yes, that would be. Can I address one more thing on the spot?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Every time I talk about this, I get this in the comments or whatever people say, be careful what you're asking for. Do you really trust voters this much? If she becomes the nominee, are you worried that she might win?

[Pat]

No, I'm not You might not be.

[Stu]

I'm not. I am conflicted over it because I do think.

[Pat]

You think it's possible.

[Stu]

It would be very difficult. I would not bet on her winning in the state of Texas, but I am nervous about voters making dumb decisions. And I will say, if you go back, let's say 2015. Ish. You'll find a lot of people on the Democratic side sounding like I do about Jasmine Crockett, just like, yeah, sure, but give Donald Trump the nomination. Was Donald Trump going to win? Sometimes they do. So I do. I will hedge myself saying, I am conflicted over this, but I do love.

[Pat]

Her, so I will eat my underwear if she wins the election.

[Stu]

Can we write that down?

[Pat]

Eat my underwear. Because it's not going to happen. It is not going to happen. Jasmine Crockett cannot win a Senate election, a statewide race for Senate in this state. No, not at this point. Maybe in 2038, 2040, maybe then, but not in 2020.

[Stu]

Which Jasmine Crockett are you talking about? Are you talking about the one that is. Speaks as if she's an accountant or the other one which speaks as if she's, you know. You know, I don't know. A. A talk show host?

[Pat]

Yeah. I either. Jasmine Crockett can't win in this.

[Stu]

Can't win in the state. I don't think. I just do not believe.

[Pat]

I don't believe it.

[Stu]

That she could win in the state. But again, when you have candidates that have certain issues that are difficult to deal with. Do I think Cornyn would probably win again? Yeah, but it would be better. This is the actual approach that Republicans should be taking across the country, which is to take senators that are conservative and conservative states and find senators that are better. To win primarily primary.

[Pat]

Yes.

[Stu]

And then go on and have a more conservative Senate. That's a. Easier path to a conservative Senate than trying to nominate some big MAGA person in Maine.

[Pat]

You know what I mean? Like, you're probably not going to win.

[Stu]

In Maine with that. With that profile. That being said, you don't. You. You have to be careful to not lose the seat. I don't think. I mean, like, I think Paxton will win, but it will be. It will be closer. It'll probably be bumpy, and there'll be moments where it doesn't look so great. But against Crockett?

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

I can't imagine it.

[Pat]

I can't. I can't either.

[Stu]

And I'm going to still live in that. If you think I'm in a dream world, I will continue to Live in that dream world. It's a great place to be.

[Pat]

There's a third guy, too, who seems pretty good in this race. And I think he pulls. Not great, but okay. I think he's in the 20s or something, whereas Cornyn and Paxton are in the 30s. But his name is Wesley Hunt and he seems to be pretty conservative. And, and I, you know, that would be nice. It would be nice to have a really solid conservative. And I mean, it's Texas. We shouldn't have to put up with John Cornyn. He's just been there too long. And the, the guy started out to be a real conservative in 2001, but he's not anymore. 2001, we don't need.

[Stu]

Yeah. Is this. I, I just don't even know why would you even want to keep. Continue with something like this if you're in the Internet?

[Pat]

I think they fall in love with the power. Power. Yep. And then there's no getting rid of them when that happens. Even when they say, you know what? I'm going to serve one term, I'm going to serve two terms. And then they get there and they get intoxicated with it and they never leave.

[Stu]

I wonder if it's even a good life. Like, I, I remember following candidates around Iowa and thinking to myself, good God, I would never remember that. Yeah, it was terrible.

[Pat]

We were with Ted Cruz for a while.

[Stu]

Yeah.

[Pat]

Brutal schedule. I don't, I'm like, that whole time I was thinking, not in a million years. I want to get so badly. Yeah.

[Stu]

And I, you know, as I mentioned, watching House of Cards, which is a fictional television show, I should point out, I shouldn't take too much from this, but, like, you do realize that there's a lot going on there that you probably would be great. You know, you're probably. If you're a certain type of person.

[Pat]

Some of it's attractive. I suppose I wouldn't want to do it. I mean, the campaign alone is too brutal. It's just. Is it worth. Worth it? I guess if you really want to serve your country or you're really power hungry, then it would be worth it.

[Stu]

It seems to be one of the two.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

Often. Not all the time. But there's some great people in the Senate and the great people in the House that do really good work. Again, you know, Cornyn is not the worst thing that can happen to us. I don't, I don't want to overstate it.

[Pat]

I mean, Crockett's the worst thing that could happen.

[Stu]

Much better. I'd rather have corn and then Crockett. However, no question, there's no reason we couldn't improve on Cornyn. Maybe Wesley Hunt's a guy, you know, maybe some. There should be somebody. Yeah, could be Paxton. I mean, if Paxton gets in there, he will be better than. There's no doubt he'll be better than Cornyn.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

The question is, you know, it's a difficult process at times.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

So that'll be interesting. It'll be. That's going to be a big one to watch in 2026 for sure. Like the, the. The attention of the country will come to Texas at some point in this process.

[Pat]

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[Pat]

It's Pat and Stu for Glenn today.

[Stu]

Important question for you, Pat. Yes, we're right before Thanksgiving. Okay, Right around the corner this week?

[Pat]

Yeah. Thursday.

[Stu]

Big part of my Thanksgiving I love is the Kexi cookies.

[Pat]

Is it?

[Stu]

It is.

[Pat]

Is that a tradition?

[Stu]

I have. I've made platters multiple times.

[Pat]

Awesome.

[Stu]

And I bring them to the big Thanksgiving gathering because I love the cookies and I cut them into fourths because no human being can consume one. Actually, even though I say that as a person who's consumed many. But you usually come on here like around let's say mid December and you're like, hey, we got this Christmas box of cookies.

[Pat]

Yeah, we do have a Christmas box.

[Stu]

That's great. You got that going on. And you'll usually come in here and you say, hey, we got this.

[Pat]

Great.

[Stu]

And you bring in one of the cookie boxes and we'll. Oh, these are incredible flavors. Thank you so much. How do I get them? Can people order them now? And you'll say sold out?

[Pat]

Yeah, I'm not saying that yet.

[Stu]

You're not saying.

[Pat]

So they are not yet sold out for Christmas. Yes. If you want the Christmas box, you can pre order it right now, which I highly recommend because when it's time to actually order it, I think they'll probably be gone. So you might want to pre order [e-mail].

[Stu]

Do you get any preview of flavors? Sorry, KSI.com.

[Pat]

Yeah, we've, we do have the Christmas flavors. I'd have to look them up really quick.

[Stu]

But you don't know.

[Pat]

I don't know them right off the top of my, my head.

[Stu]

If you don't know this, you know.

[Pat]

Because I'm not there in the kitchen every day, really. Like my wife and my son and my daughter in law who run that business. But, but yeah, you, you can get them and they are available.

[Stu]

Wow, what a great sell.

[Pat]

We do have a huge sale coming up on, on Black Friday, which is this Friday.

[Stu]

Oh, wow, Very cool.

[Pat]

Biggest sale of the whole year. So it's a really good time. Time to order.

[Stu]

So basically what you're saying is you don't know what cookies you can buy and you should definitely not order them now because there's a bigger sale coming on Friday.

[Pat]

No, I'm saying you should pre order them right now.

[Stu]

Okay.

[Pat]

And go ahead and stock up for Thanksgiving too, which would be really good. Let's see. All right, we, yes, we've got, we got a pop up there that's gotten in my way. But these are really good. We've got. I don't know what the. Not Okay. I don't know what the Christmas cookie is, but it's delicious. My gosh.

[Stu]

Like, I mean, it's, it's almost surprising it's not as big as Chips Ahoy by now. Like, are you, are you fully at the Nabisco levels with your salesmanship? I can't even understand it. I will say they're the best cookies I've ever had. And you will. So k s I.com did you see.

[Pat]

That President Trump is actually taking another shot at the, at bringing peace to the Ukraine situation? And, yeah, union threw some extras in for Russia to make it more palatable to them, including being included in G8 again. So the G7 would become the G8 again with Russia joining. So we'll see if this one works out. I don't know.

[Stu]

Interesting. We should maybe go over this in more detail tomorrow.

[Pat]

Yeah, we'll do that tomorrow.

[Stu]

Some big questions for Ukraine of whether they can tolerate all the things they'd have to give up here.

[Pat]

Yeah.

[Stu]

But, gosh, would love to see that thing be over.

[Pat]

Me, too. I think, you know, millions would, maybe even billions. All right, we'll see you back here tomorrow. In the meantime, have a great day.

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