Chip Roy (8:02)

Nope.

Glenn Beck (8:02)

No, they didn't. According to the DOJ and the FBI, they said we had no. There's. There's nothing telling us that you were doing this. Do go. DOJ said yesterday they weren't dismantling hate, they were manufacturing hate. That they paid the arsonist to keep the fire going so they could keep raising money to put the fire out. And on top of that, the DOJ said never. Were we informed. Okay, I want to take this to a different place. Those are the facts I want to take this to. If the allegations are true, this fits directly into what we have seen all over the world in really ugly political systems controlled extremism. Let me explain how this works. This is the way it's happened all over the world. Okay. First you help create or intensify the the very danger you publicly are claiming to fight. If the indictments version is true, the machine would look like this. Money flows in quietly into radicals and to dangerous people. And it helps them become louder and more active. The public then sees a bigger threat. The organization points that threat out and makes more money, more moral authority, media defense and political leverage. And it's just lather, rinse, repeat. Lather, rinse, repeat. This is the self licking ice cream cone. The danger feeds the institution and that institution narrates the danger. Then you turn labels into weapons in authoritarian systems. Extremist, terrorist, foreign agent. These are all tags that are used to not just identify real threats, but to isolate opponents. You chill People's association, you cut off funding. You make the public afraid to defend the target. This is what Saul Alinsky talked about. Okay? Now Reuters has reported that Russia, their Supreme Court recently labeled memorial extremist and that created a mechanism to prosecute the donors, contributors and people who share its materials. Belarus used extremist designations to do the same thing to media outlets and journalists. So you begin to isolate people. Solinsky. Third, you build a climate where the map becomes territory. Once a group is publicly targeted as hateful or extremist or subversive, the press, the foundations, the bureaucracies can be begin treating the label as proof. So you'll notice that's what the press does. According to the Southern Poly Law center, this group is put the label in.

Chip Roy (11:03)

Okay?

Glenn Beck (11:04)

This is where soft totalitarianism systems are born. You don't start with the gulags, you, you start with reputational death, which kind of becomes a soft black list. You start funding the choke points and public fear. That's what the Southern Poverty Law center was doing. Freedom House has warned that authoritarian systems exploit broad extremism and misinformation networks and frameworks to tighten the control over speech and civic space. Think of that. What are they saying? They're saying you control every once you get this label out now you can control speech, you can control people. What they do in the public AI makes censorship and surveillance and disinformation easier and faster and cheaper. Remember what did the government do after it did all of this? After the SPLC would label what were they doing? The Biden administration was using them as justification to go to people and say, look, the SPLC says these are dangerous people. You have to censor them. Well, what. What does it. What is this beginning to sound like? This is beginning to sound like a color revolution. Okay? Usually a color revolution. If it's not directed. It's a mass protest movement that arises because something is illegitimate. There's, you know, an election fraud or whatever. It's usually a disputed election. And then they use civil society networks and independent media and public mobilization to challenge whoever the president is or the prime minister. That's a color revolution. So what do they need? They need an unpopular. See if this, any of this is available here in America. They need an unpopular incumbent, a people. A person that is running the government that is hated by at least half the people. They need an united opposition and enough independent media to spread the case that the vote was falsified or that this guy is an authoritarian and you need to dismantle and make the other side defending him afraid and. And fractured. You also need the ability to mobilize large protests like no kings. So Moscow came to view this sequence as a series of things. First, you have to train the opposition networks. Then you have to delegitimize the government. You have to spark protest, replace the regime. That's how Moscow looks at it. I told you, for him, for forever, it is bottom up, top down, inside out. This is how the Kremlin interprets these events, okay? Whether that's accurate or not, that's the way they do. I think it's accurate. So let me get back to the splc. If an institution can inflate or steer the public perception of extremism, then it can help manufacture a crisis atmosphere. They are not the key to color revolution. They are one layer of the color revolution. I believe this. My theory. Nothing is proven until proven in a court of law. But if you can create that crisis atmosphere, it does several things at once. It delegitimizes the political opponents. It pressures media to conform. It justifies surveillance and deplatforming. It SC donors and churches and business and people away from the wrong side. And it creates moral permission for extraordinary countermeasures. How many times have you heard people try to kill somebody? Well, let's use Charlie Kirk. How many people say it was justified? That's an extreme position, one that Americans have never held. Never, except in our very worst times. Now you have people justifying violence. It's justified. Why? Because somebody has ratcheted up the labels. In a, in an environment like we have right now, they're priming the ground for street mobilization, government action, corporate pressure, selective law enforcement. It's all pushing in the same direction.

Kevin McCarthy (15:55)

Now.

Glenn Beck (15:55)

That's not a revolution. That's the precondition for a revolution. That's legitimacy for war. If this is true, an organization says these people are dangerous, that feeds or, or, or expands those kinds of people, those people continue to do dangerous things, and their dangerous things that they're doing is amplified and it's made to look much, much bigger. Then the press reports the danger. Then the public sees that report, they label and they say, oh, my gosh, it's everywhere. Then, because the people are rising up saying, somebody's got to do something. The institutions demand crackdown. The same organization that was pointing out the danger and funding the danger says, you got to do something about it. They're elevated as the trusted interpreter of the threat because they're the ones who found it. This is exactly how society, societies go from free debate into managed fear. And once fear becomes the currency, totalitarian habits follow fast. Look at what's happening right now in Virginia. Look at what they did in Virginia yesterday. What do they do? And everybody who voted this way. I saw the people coming out, people who are coming out of the voting booth and voted to take away the voice of 40% of Virginia, 40% all said the same thing. We have to stop Donald Trump. That's fear pushing you into totalitarianism and you don't even know it. You label the enemy, you isolate the enemy, you criminalize contact with the enemy, you pressure media, financial channels, you make ordinary citizens afraid of being seen near the enemy. This is what happens every single time. Is that what the Southern Poverty Law center was doing? Well, I could sure make the, the case. The last people that are pointed to and say these people are danger dangerous are the people who have been pointing out the danger themselves. I, I will tell you that anybody who gave to the Southern Poverty Law center, they are not going to read this the same way. 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The comparison is that that the conduct, the alleged conduct, resembles one important piece of that machinery that makes regime destabilization politics possible. The managed production of extremism followed by moral framing, media amplification, institutional isolation of targets, the censoring of voices pushed by the government. That's the family of tactics that authoritarian and hybrid regimes use when they want to reorganize public life without sending tanks. And that is the goal. If Americans knew history, that is the goal of progressivism. Have revolution without the tanks. That's what's happening. I hope none of this is true about, you know, the center for, or I mean the Southern Poverty Law center. But I'm sorry, you'd have a hard time convincing me. I'm not going to be on the jury because you'd have a hard time. I have. I have a very long, long relationship with them. I think we looked it up yesterday. Somebody on the staff looked it up and said, you know, they've reported that you're an extremist like 175 times. Oh, they've accused me of inspiring murder and everything. Else they're liars. They are liars and they are part of the problem. And I'm glad to see that finally we're getting serious about shutting people like this down and exposing the tactics that they use. Notice Charlottesville. What was it that Joe Biden said was his reason for becoming president? I wasn't gonna, I wasn't gonna run a lie. I wasn't gonna run until Charlottesville. And then I realized I've gotta run against this monster. What was the lie of Charlottesville? There are good people on both sides. That's not what he said. Who was it that was helping fund Charlottesville? We find out now. The Southern Poverty Law Center. Who was it that was pushing the narrative after Charlottesville? The Southern Poverty Law Center. This is what is going on. Watch this story. 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Glenn Beck (25:01)

so one of the good guys in Congress is Congressman Chip Roy from Texas. He is a candidate for Texas Attorney General and would be ruthless, I think, on that. And, and I, I really like Chip, but you got to do your own homework. Let me talk to Chip Roy about a couple of things that are going on in Congress right now. And you can check him out his website, roy.house.gov or chip roy Tx. You can follow him on Twitter Chip Roy Tx. Okay, Chip, let me start. So many things to talk to you about. Well, let me start with, let me start with fisa. Okay, FISA is, they're looking to renew fisa. And of course we're doing it in the, you know, middle of a war where you're going to be able to make this case a lot easier. We got people here. You said you voted for a 10 day extension, but you said that you will block a clean reauthorization without significant reform. What reform do you want?

Chip Roy (25:56)

Well, Glenn, remember that this situation was created because of the abuses by the FBI and by our intelligence state in using FISA against the American people. And your audience is very informed. So they know this. You know, they targeted President Trump. They used a different section in 702, but nevertheless they used 702 to go after the American people. We have the Arctic frost abuses where they went after members of Congress, including me. I had my records targeted and I didn't even know until three years later, which is just absolutely insane. And so we're just looking for continued reforms. Now. Two years ago we had to hold this all up. Same game of chicken where we said, guys, we're not going to give you a blank reauthorization. And we need reforms. And we got some pretty good reforms. Big step forward. We went through the Judiciary Committee, we put members of Congress inside the foreign intelligence surveillance courts. We had a significant increase in reporting. We had more state standards on what they need to do and lots of other things that we put in that bill that made a real big difference. And we've seen fewer abuses. The data we're getting is encouraging, it's trending, but we didn't get a warrant, we didn't get even. Something that would tighten in and make clear that if you're going in and you're finding this information, this warrantless surveillance of the American people, because you've got this authority under 7 and 2 to target foreigners, which we all support, going after bad guys, using it.

Glenn Beck (27:18)

Right. Yep.

Chip Roy (27:19)

That are foreign nationals.

Glenn Beck (27:20)

Correct.

Chip Roy (27:20)

But when you're talking about American citizens, we want to have every protection possible because the government abuses its authority. So we want to see greater empowerment of being able to have more review of what's happening in the foreign intelligence surveillance courts. We want to have greater penalties, much stiffer penalties for abuses within the intelligence community and the FBI. And we want to have greater warrant protection. That is you cannot use the stuff you find to embark on a, a criminal investigation without getting a full warrant on an American citizen. Those are the kinds of things that we're debating and arguing over and the kinds of reforms we want to see in moving forward. As I told the President last week directly. So, Mr. President, we trust you. We trust this administration to do the right thing. But you know, we've got to protect American citizens for three years from now, eight years from now, 20 years from now.

Glenn Beck (28:10)

Yeah, this is, that's the whole point of the Bill of Rights. I mean, it was our founders that put the Bill of Rights together and they said, you can trust us, don't trust anybody else. You shouldn't even really trust us. But we don't trust the government and we're the ones running the government. So we're saying government should have these handcuffs. You know, you talk about having a penalty, a stiffer penalty. I'm going to make a case later today. I'm staying on for an extra half hour because I want to make a strong case for the death penalty. You violate fisa. It is our most sacred rights. It's our Bill of Rights. You are violating the most sacred. And, and if you want to say, we have to have this, we have to have this, we must do it. Good. Then if you do it and you do what that FBI guy did to Carter Page, you knowingly falsify information, you lie to a judge, it should be the stiffest penalty our government can hand out. It should be you're violating the sacred right. And we have trusted you and said we don't. We don't trust you. And you've begged for this right. If you knowingly do that, I think you should get the death penalty, quite honestly, or at least life in Guantanamo Bay, no questions asked it. You will never stop the abuse unless the punishment is breathtaking and damn near automatic.

Chip Roy (29:36)

Well, Glenn, this is one of the things last week that we were pushing for. I won't say that we're pushing directly for the death penalty, but you're sentiment is exactly right. We had massive penalties, massive imprisonment, massive fines. And look, our question was, how are you going to police it? And we need to have greater triggers for being able to monitor and have Oversight. And if you marry all of that up, then we'll get greater comfort that our intelligence community is not being used against us and against the American people. But you're right, you have to have a stiff penalty. So look, as this debate unfolds, our position is you're not going to get a clean reauthorization. We're going to oppose that. And we're telling the speaker and Leader Thune and the White House guys we're open to ways to move forward. I know you need this authority. We're dealing with Iran and all these issues, but we're going to continue to protect the American people. So it's a non starter that it not have significant reforms. We're open to what those look like and working with the White House and leadership.

Glenn Beck (30:30)

I'll tell you, Chip, it's not enough to just have transparency. Americans are starting to be transparent on a lot of stuff that happened and nobody gets punished. You must have stiff, damn near as close to with fair trial, damn near automatic. It's got to be an electric fence. It has to be an electric fence. Okay.

Chip Roy (30:52)

Yeah. Well, Glenn, I will, I will note that, you know, and I don't want to change topics on you, but this, you know, indictments for the Southern Poverty Law Center. I mean a lot of us yesterday were saying finally or you know, I held a hearing on this topic in December. I know brought in Turning Point usa, brought in a vote from the Family Research Council, Tony Perkins talking about what we knew was happening with the Southern Poverty Law Center, Antifa. All these organizations well organized. We called for a special select committee last fall. We meaning the Freedom Caucus and conservatives. Finally we're seeing movement. We need more, more hearings, more exposure and then more action by the Department of Justice to indict these people that we know are targeting us.

Glenn Beck (31:28)

I was glad to see that this actually came from the Department of Justice and our new acting attorney General yesterday. Because more hearings mean nothing. Chip, you know this. Correct, More hearings.

Chip Roy (31:39)

No, I agree.

Glenn Beck (31:39)

Absolutely nothing.

Chip Roy (31:41)

My point of that, my point of that though, Glenn, is from congressional standpoint, our job is to expose and then get the Department of Justice. You guys go indict, you guys go, you know, take action and have penalties. And that's what all I want is more action. Right. So I know I want to have more.

Glenn Beck (31:57)

Yeah, me too. Okay, so let me, I've got like three things to cover with you here in just a few minutes. So let me go through with the Save America Act. I think it was Anna Paulina Luna yesterday said Tie it to FISA reauthorization because you're never going to get it any other way. Tie it to that possibility. What do you think of that idea?

Chip Roy (32:17)

Well, like, I know that it would meet resistance in the Senate. I've talked to on about this. We agree. You know, I think there might be some ways we could get 3/4 or 80% of the save America Act. I'm obviously the author, so I know the bill well. I think we could get voter ID and I think we could get the voter roll cleanup if we added it to something that's a. A moving vehicle like fisa. I think we ought to consider that. I talked to the speaker about that last night. You know, he's gotta weigh the options of what he can move. But we need to leverage whatever moving vehicles there are because as we saw in Virginia last night, we're gonna lose it all if we don't act. By the way, the Senate is sitting around going, oh, we gotta save the filibuster. You and I, as conservatives, we wanna stop bad legislation. I appreciate the sentiment, but you guys are gonna lose the Republic because Democrats are going to do what they did in Virginia last night. They're going to come in, they're going to make D.C. estate, they're going to pack the court while you guys sit around fiddling while America burns. So I'm sick of it.

Glenn Beck (33:10)

I. And I haven't decided this is absolutely right yet, Chip. So talk me down from this tree. When it comes to the filibuster, I want the standing filibuster. I want the traditional filibuster. Well, if you're not going to do that, I don't want the filibuster. That was made up in the 1970s.

Chip Roy (33:27)

Right.

Glenn Beck (33:27)

Okay, so what is the problem with nuking the filibuster? If it's that filibuster, I want the standing filibuster. But I'm to the point where, like, nuke the damn thing.

Chip Roy (33:39)

Glenn, you and I are singing from the same page. In the last October, I raised this point. I said, guys, I want to defend the traditional filibuster as a cooling saucer, but if we have to nuke it, nuke it. If you guys aren't going to get out of the way and maintain this fake filibuster, or as Mike Lee calls it, zombie filibuster of 60 votes. There's nothing in the Constitution saying 60 votes. There's no requirement that we have a default 60 vote position. And by the way, that's also harming Congress, we can't flex muscle as Congress against an executive branch. I'm not talking about President Trump. But in terms of the balance of powers, Congress can't do its job while we're hiding behind a 60 vote threshold in the Senate. So I agree. In fact, I've told some senators who won't move. I said, guys, if you want to save any vestige of the filibuster, you better save the talking filibuster. Actual, you gotta go work for a filibuster. And by the way, here's another idea. Why not on this shutdown of dhs, why don't Senate Republicans say, look, if you have a shutdown and we have a bill for a continuum resolution, that's it, then it's 51 votes. What's wrong with that? You want to have a sort of, you know, shutdown prevention act. If a majority of the Senate wants to fund government at current levels, great, you can do that at 51 votes. Why don't we do that instead of right now? We're going, oh, I guess we got to go past something because the Democrats won't let us fund Border Patrol and ice. It's ridiculous.

Glenn Beck (35:05)

Let me see, let me go here. You introduced on Monday, reintroduced the Mamdani Act. What is the Mamdani Act? Why did you do it? Why did you name it after Mamdani?

Chip Roy (35:22)

Well, look, I think Mamdani is emblematic of one of the major problems we have in this country where we've been importing people who do not share our values and then allowing them to not only ascend to some positions in corporate America, but now increasingly in leadership positions, in this case, mayor of our largest city. Look, under our current laws, we are able to reject people who are affiliated with the Communist Party. The United States Supreme Court has upheld that. As far back as 1952, a Supreme Court opinion, they said, yeah, you can do that. We're a sovereign nation. We can choose who comes in and who comes out. And we can denaturalize and remove people who are carrying out activities that are undermining the United States. If you are a naturalized person or if you're on a visa or whatever, I think we ought to expand the zone of how we define that. Not just quote, Communist Party, but let's be broader in terms of Marxism, in terms of what we're dealing with, the Islamist movement, in terms of the Chinese Communist Party. Let's lay that out and say, look, if you're affiliated with these entities and you're anti American and you're under undermining Western civilization, we can reject you. And if you came here on a visa or if you've been naturalized, we can denaturalize you and send you home because we're importing people who want to destroy our way of life. You and I will die on the hill as you guys. You and I have talked about on your show before in defense of the Bill of Rights in the Constitution, people saying, chip, this is unconstitutional and it's against the first Amendment. No, what I'm saying is if we, if we invite you here, this is our country, okay? We built this country on Judeo Christian principles. We built this country on the Constitution, Western civilization. We invite you here, you got to tell us who you are. We need to know who you are. And if you, if you're affiliated with entities or if you're espousing beliefs or if you're promoting Sharia law or things that are inconsistent with our way of life, then we should not import you.

Glenn Beck (37:05)

That's why.

Chip Roy (37:06)

And by the way,

Glenn Beck (37:08)

that's why you should include Nazism, too. Fascism. Nazism. So it doesn't look like it's one side, because who's going to argue again, you want to import Nazis. You want to import and, and, and naturalize Nazis who were lying to you about Nazis. And then when they get here, they start affiliating with all the Nazis here. No, you want them out. Want them out.

Chip Roy (37:28)

It's a fair point, and I'm happy to add that to the list. I mean, again, it's so funny. In this town, you introduce a bill and they go, well, that's the bill. I said, wait a minute, let's put in committee. We'll amend it. We'll make it better. If I did something that's. That's bad, we can pull it out if we want to add something. That's great. The whole prompt, it's a concept. Why are we importing people who hate us? Why are we importing people who don't want to preserve the America?

Glenn Beck (37:50)

It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. None. It's a suicide. It becomes a suicide pact if we don't.

Chip Roy (37:55)

100%, Chip.

Glenn Beck (37:56)

I appreciate it. Where do people go to find out about your campaign?

Chip Roy (38:00)

Chiproy.com. thanks, Glenn. Obviously, I'm running for Attorney General. Appreciate it. ChipRoy.com, may 26th is the runoff date, and we're running hard and burning both ends of the candle. Doing my day job. I tried. I've missed, I think, maybe two votes in this whole process that they were inconsequential. I'm doing all my all I can to keep doing my job that I promised to my constituents while running for Texas Attorney general. We've got to save Texas, Glenn.

Glenn Beck (38:23)

I know.

Chip Roy (38:23)

We've got to save Texas.

Glenn Beck (38:24)

I will tell you, we are closer than people understand. We are so close to losing Texas. And if we lose Texas, the Republic is over. There is no saving it without Texas. It will become California, New York, and then it's over. It's over. You never win another election.

Chip Roy (38:42)

What we saw unfold in Virginia last night.

Glenn Beck (38:44)

Yep.

Chip Roy (38:45)

That's what the Democrats are going to do, and they want to do it to Texas. And we now, our last hope is that the Virginia Supreme Court throws it out. And, you know, they have a case.

Glenn Beck (38:55)

Do they have a case? Because that's Cuccinelli.

Chip Roy (38:59)

I think they have a very strong case. But I don't know the court that well, but I mean, the lawyers I talk to in Richmond and in Virginia, they tell me, look, I mean, the wording of the vote right, of the referendum was terrible. So that's procedurally wrong. They had some other procedural problems that I think the Virginia Supreme Court could toss it out on in terms of how they set up the vote and the rules that you have to do it. Between an intervening election and other stuff, I think there's strong arguments, but I don't know how strong the court will be. You know how courts are. So, look, it's our last hope now, the Virginia Supreme Court striking it down.

Glenn Beck (39:29)

I know, Chip, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Chip. Roy from the great state. God bless you, Texas. You bet. Let me tell you about my Patriot supply. You don't have to be a doomsday prepper type ton understand the basic truth. The things that you count on most are the things that you notice only after they're gone. And I'm talking about things like power and heat and groceries. Full tank of gas, a store shelf that is stocked when you need it. Most days, you don't even think about it because it's just always there. One blackout, one disruption, one bad week reminds you how thin that margin actually is. That's why I tell you about my Patriot supply. They make preparedness practical. This isn't about fear or panic. It's about just having food, water, filtration, emergency gear. You know, the kind of backup plan response that responsible people put up, you know, before you need it. Because when something does go wrong, it's the worst possible time to begin thinking about what you should have done earlier. Right now. Preparewithglen.com Go there now, get a three month emergency food kit supply. They will include free mega protein upgrade. That's an incredible 200 value. It's a simple step you can take right now before the warning signs turn into something much darker. Preparewithglen.com get yours today. Be prepared today. Preparewithglen.com Glenn Beck.

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You know, hello America. I got a lot of heat. A Couple of weeks ago, when I said the biggest enemy that we are are fighting right now is ourself, and I was relating it to Iran. And right now, the Iranians are stalling, trying to drag this thing out. They're just trying to hold on, quite honestly, because they believe they can outlast us. They believe that if they just keep holding on, we are going to tear ourselves apart. And the reason why we would do that is because we have a lot of pressures on us. We have social media, we have propaganda, we have our own institutions falling apart. We have our own people tearing institutions apart. And we don't really believe in anything anymore. So what's worth fighting for? What's worth dying for? I just want my stuff right now. You don't survive as a nation if you do that. And we are starting to, to see this happen in Canada. Tomorrow I'm doing a monologue on Canada that I really want you to hear, because it is our future. If we are not careful. Canada is now killing their own people at just a record clip through, you know, medical assistance in dying. And they're doing it because they can't afford medicine anymore. They just can't afford it. And why? Because they've imported all of these people. Why? Why did they import these people? Because Canada wasn't a growing economy, so we have to have more people. But that's only making it worse because now you can't afford housing, you can't afford medicine. People have lost the faith that they can actually get ahead and the next generation is going to do better. We've always had that in the West. My question is, are there things that we can hold on to and believe in? Are there things that we can do? Because once we lose faith, it is over. And I want to show you how bad things are in Canada. I'm going to. I'm going to start actually at the ending today. I'm going to give you what's causing all of it tomorrow. But I want to show you what's happening with their happiness. Canadians have always loved their country and they've always, you know, they've been happy, generally happy. We've been like, we're work, work, work, work, work. And they've been. They've had a better handle, I think, some, in some ways, on how to live your life. And they've always been happy, and they've been happy with their health care and their country and everything else. They are not happy right now. In fact, when you look at the happiness index, they have fallen faster than any other country and it is stark. So I want to get a handle on that. Daniel Fosh joins me here in just a second. First, let me tell you about American financing. Most people think debt is just about numbers, interest rates, payments, balances, due dates. But debt has a way of showing up in places the numbers don't belong. It shows up in your stress level and the way you sleep, you know, how tense you feel, you know, opening that email in low grade pressure that never quite leaves, you're in trouble. And that's when that happens, when you're carrying high interest debt and it feels like you work, working harder and harder every month and you're staying in the same place. That's why I want to talk to you about American financing. Homeowners have options to them using their equity to consolidate high interest debt. More than, you know, more than just, you know, opening up your mortgage and getting rid of that great loan that you got with that low, low, low, low interest rate. You can now use a new program to be able to get a low interest rate based on your mortgage. But you're not resetting your mortgage. Okay. This is giving gonna give you breathing room strategy. If you own a home and you're tired of feeling like your finances are running, you see what American financing can do. 8009-0624-4080-0906-2044 40 or go to American Financing.net that's American Financing.net nmls182334nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for its in the five starts at 6.799 for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms. Daniel Fosh is the chief real estate officer at Valerie ca, Canada's first AI powered real estate brokerage. Host of Canada's number one real estate podcast and he is here to explain what is happening with the happiness index because it is brutal. Daniel, welcome to the program.

Daniel Fosh (50:21)

Thanks for having me.

Kevin McCarthy (50:22)

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Glenn Beck (50:23)

Tell me, tell me what is happening in the happiness index in Canada.

Daniel Fosh (50:28)

Yeah, so Canada observed one of the largest drops, I think the largest drop in the world in happiness. And basically it's been progressing since about it's not a brand new thing. It's been over the last decade slowly falling and then it sort of took a pretty steep drop over the last couple of years. And the more interesting part is if you look at Canada from a generational perspective, young people are actually experiencing an even more severe drop. So we rank 26th in the World Happiness Index, right behind the US for the first time since the index had started. But if you look at that from the perspective of young people, young people are like 71st in the world. And a lot of it is because the way our economy is structured, it really makes it difficult for young people to be successful. And they've sort of lost hope with their ability to participate in the economy, to be able to afford things, to be able to get ahead in life and achieve a quality of life comparable to what their parents had when they were growing up.

Glenn Beck (51:38)

So I wanted to have you on. If you are listening to Daniel, I just want you to see our future. What can. Canada is ahead of us. And what is happening in Canada is happening here. And it's why I speak about several things on this program, trying to show you what's happening in Canada to relate it to here. Let's just talk housing first, because that's your expertise. We are. We are living in America and it is increasingly difficult to get a house. People, especially young people, are losing their faith that they can ever change their status, they can ever buy a house and get ahead like their parents did. And part of that is because the, you know, the idea of the Great Reset was to bring people in from different countries because our populations were declining. We needed more people to make more money, but that didn't help anything. Can you explain what happened in Canada?

Daniel Fosh (52:37)

Yeah, so in Canada, we had a, you know, variety of factors that contributed to very fast and severe inflation in housing costs. So we had our. From a zoning perspective and a. I mean, we have a lot of, like, land use policies that are sort of like ESG derivative. So this thing called the Green Belt in the Greater Toronto area where, you know, it's sort of like imagined areas where you can't develop because, you know, the environment and agricultural land and other factors. And then you also have record population growth. So we had record population growth in 2022, 2023, back to back. Our population grew by like 1.2 million people, which is like 4% of the. Sorry, it was between 2 and 4% of the population, depending on how you measured it. And so that obviously contributed a lot to excess demand. And the bank of Canada even put out a chart that showed a correlation between the number or the magnitude of population growth alongside rent inflation. And they're basically correlated one to one. So both your rent and your home values went up because there was excess demand for housing. And at the same time, you know, young people were sort of coming of age, millennials wanted to move out of the city. We had the pandemic. We had some of the most aggressive lockdowns in the world. And then so a lot of people were suburbanizing and there was just not enough houses we couldn't build quickly enough. Our economy, ironically, is massively exposed to housing. So we have huge concentration of our GDP is in residential investment, yet we're not very efficient at building it. And so this ultimately led to young people basically being priced out of the market, but older people who already own homes and have paid them off and whatever benefiting from the inflation that was taking place. And so now we have, you know, the kind of flip side of that is you also have a massive exposure of the wealth or net worth of your older cohort that depends on this home equity to fund their retirement. And so the government sort of trapped. It's like, do we want to let homes lose their value and, you know, and risk cutting into that nest egg of the older generation?

Glenn Beck (54:58)

Does then you have to pay for the older generation who's going to take care of them?

Daniel Fosh (55:03)

Yeah, yeah. And I do think, like, if you look at Europe as an example, because it seems Canada is very much headed in that direction. You know, they have some of the largest unfunded pension liabilities in the world. Like, if I were to really evaluate, if I'm a policymaker, why would I risk doing, you know, immigration at this level? And it makes you wonder if, you know, we're really trying to pad that younger generation to make it more affordable for us to have that transition into the largest cohort of, you know, this is the same thing in the US the largest cohort of older. The older generation retiring that we've ever seen in history. Are we going to be able to afford it?

Glenn Beck (55:36)

But wouldn't that make sense if you were not bringing in populations, if you were bringing in populations that were more like Canada understood, and not bringing in such large populations like we are here, that is relying on the government to pay for it.

Daniel Fosh (55:55)

Yeah, well, I think this is one of the big issues with Canada's system. And, you know, we. There's. There's different layers of loopholes that have been exploited in Canada's immigration system that allowed this to sort of happen. And a lot of them have been closed. But the, you know, the population growth just moves to the next loophole. So the loophole that we're on right now is asylum and refugee status. The one that they were on before was the idea that basically you could become an international student and you could pay to move to Canada, get a degree and become a permanent resident. And that was the path that were being sold to a lot of people that's since been closed from a loophole basis and they've made an effort to make that policy more appropriate. The problem is that there are other policies downstream from it that haven't been closed. And so the demand of people moving just basically shifts to. Now we have this. I did a video on my YouTube with somebody from the CD Howe Institute who analyzed Canada's asylum system and there's huge issues forming in that now.

Glenn Beck (56:56)

Well, you also. Didn't you just open up a new path for citizenship and saying if you come and you're in the Canadian army now, we'll give you citizenship?

Daniel Fosh (57:07)

I'm not sure, but I can, I can look into that one for sure.

Glenn Beck (57:09)

Yeah, no, I'm pretty sure it happened in the last couple of weeks. Tell me what's happening with the ESG stuff. I think over in British Columbia there was a couple of weeks ago where things got really bad because the 30 by 30 stuff is kicking in. Do you know anything about that?

Ben Scalan (57:26)

I don't.

Daniel Fosh (57:27)

But in B.C. the stuff that interests me is around land use is we have a lot of this. So BC was the only sub sovereign state or a province in Canada that actually took the United nations undrip framework and made it provincial law. And it's really created this huge mess around indigenous land claims on land in British Columbia. So, you know, you basically have like the. A big portion of the city of Vancouver as an example and like large swaths of land, like hundreds or thousands of acres that indigenous groups are setting land claims on. And you know, I've spoken to the two top lawyers on this matter in the country and they've both mentioned that basically this is a serious threat to, you know, property rights in that market. So they're being appealed. And this will ultimately go to the provincial court and likely federal court. But it is depending on how the laws are interpreted by our province and federal government, this could set a pretty dangerous precedent for that to roll across the remainder of Canada. So that's sort of becoming a mess in regards to property rights, at least on the west coast right now in Canada.

Glenn Beck (58:39)

Are Canadians starting to get and see that the policies of their government are just killing them?

Daniel Fosh (58:48)

Yeah, it's interesting in Canada, like I would say that, you know, both of our political parties are relatively liberal from probably an economic and social perspective. And I think that the challenge with this is that it seems like the conservative movement in Canada has Sort of abandoned the, you know, the core tenet of individual responsibility, right. That we are ultimately personally accountable for our circumstances. And so I think they do realize this, you know, a lot of Canadians, but they don't realize that there's an element of control or impact that they can have as voters, as, you know, members of society. And so we saw that, like in our last election in April of last year. This. A lot of complaining from both sides, but nobody really. And young people especially, right. Like, young people are saying, you know, this isn't what we want. We want to change. But then when you look at voter turnout, baby boomers decided and overwhelmingly liberal voters decided the outcome of Canada's election. Whereas young people have so much, you know, on social media and on the Internet, are so active, yet they barely saw an improvement in voter turnout. And so, you know, this is where, you know, democracy becomes a bit of a headwind. If your voting population communicates and wants to participate in politics online and on social media, that's great. But if they don't show up to vote and do something about it, you kind of end up with no change. Right? You get what you vote for. And if you vote for nothing, you get nothing.

Glenn Beck (60:32)

Daniel, thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for bringing us up to speed. We'll talk again. The happiness index is. That's going on in Canada right now is, is showing up first because people can't afford daily life. That's what's happening. And look at what he just said. Young people are complaining, but they're not getting involved. That's going to be the death of all of all of Western countries because they're being taught to hate the country. They're giving good reason to see that it's not working and nobody's doing anything about it. But they are not organizing. They are organizing behind slogans. They are not organizing behind things that actually can work to solve those things. And that's the problem. That's. That's what happened. I think that's what happened in Virginia. How many people in Virginia do you know? Virginians that didn't show up last night? And now look at what you're looking at more in just a second. Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. So your phone company probably talks a lot about coverage, maps, unlimited plans, you know, how many lines you can add and all those things. And they matter. But here's the question they don't ever ask or want to answer. Once they have your money every month, what do they do with it? Because some of the big mobile companies the dollars you send them, they turn around and support causes and activism that you would never have anything to do with. You're paying the bill. You're funding the opposite of what you believe. That's why I want you to look at Patriot Mobile. They offer offer dependable service, competitive pricing and access to all three major networks. But they also stand for something different. They support the First Amendment, the second amendment, the sanctity of life, our veterans, the values that you embrace. You need a phone. You need phone service. The real question is whether your monthly bill should work against you or alongside you. Patriot mobile.com back call 972-patriot. 972 patriot use the promo code Beck for a free month of service. That's patriot mobile.com Beck 972 patriot use the promo code beck make the switch today. 972 patriot patriot or mobile.com back 10 seconds. Station ID. You know, as I was listening to him talk, I'm thinking, with all of the things that are going on in the world and we look at everything as disconnected. Glenn, why aren't you talking about what happened? Virginia? Why are you talking to the happiness guy? Why aren't you talking about, you know, the Southern Poverty Law Center? Why you haven't mentioned what happened with Iran yesterday? Well, I have. I have. And even if I haven't, because I haven't mentioned Iran. I've talked about the other things already, but I'm talking about all of them at once. People don't see how connected everything is. Again, our biggest problem is we are dividing ourselves and not just between from one another, but dividing ourselves and getting away from who we actually are or want to be. Who do you want to be? Who do you want the nation to be? It's not just going to happen. You know, you could say I want to be a doctor someday, but unless you take the steps to go to medical school, you're never going to be a doctor. I want to be happy. I want to be prosperous. Well, what steps are you taking? And unfortunately, now you can say, I want to be prosperous. I don't have to be rich. I just want to be able to have a nice life for my family. And you're taking all the steps, but you're taking the steps that I took when I was young. Those steps don't work anymore because the world has changed. So what are the steps you have to take? Unfortunately, you have other steps you have to take that I didn't necessarily that weren't imperative for me. And that is guard the system, understand the System, clean up the corruption, get the bad guys out of the way. Why is Donald Trump spending so much time on Europe and the Middle East? Because he knows those two things. One is draining us along with our own corruption here. One is draining us of our resources. We're constantly having to worry about Ukraine. Why should we worry about Ukraine? That's their responsibility. Why should we have to worry about the Middle East? Well, because it's oil. Quite honestly, it's oil. And they're the biggest exporter in terror. We're never going to get out of the Middle east unless we solve the oil problem. Unless we solve the terror problem. So who is.

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What is the problem with oil? We're not producing it ourself. Great. Produce oil now. We have other steps. It's not working at your gas pump because the oil we produce we have to send overseas because we can't refine it here. So we have to build refineries. That's a whole different story. What is it you have to do? What are the steps you have to take to fix it? It's easy to say. The president needs to fix the country, he needs to fix the economy. Well, how can you do that? You have to have oil. You have to invest in future tech, which is AI. You have to reshore manufacturing. All of that stuff takes time. And if we don't start looking at everything that we have to do, that I never had to do as a kid because I was living off what my parents built, what that is over now. We have to build new things. You have to change your actions. And what's really hard is you have to do it and not lose faith in the system overall. And that system's not the old things that we built. It's the idea that all men are created equal and they should be free. All right, back in just a second. Let me tell you about leaf filter. You can learn a lot about a house just by watching how water affects it. For example, when it rains, does it, you know, flow the way it should? Or does it pour over the edge pool near the foundation, streak the siding, and turn a small problem into, you know, a scene of an opening scene of a much, much bigger one. Because water is patient. It doesn't need drama. It just keeps showing up until something fails. That's why I tell you about leaf filter. Leaf filter, it's a gutter protection system designed to keep leaves, pine needles and debris out so water can move the way it's supposed to. No constant clogs, no seasonal ladder routine, no wondering what's happening up there every time a storm rolls through? Sometimes the, the best home improvements aren't flashy. They don't sit up, you know, they don't sit in the driveway, they don't light up the living room. They just quietly prevent expensive headaches year after year after year. So start protecting your home with LEAF filter. It's America's number one gutter protection system. Schedule your free inspection at leaffilter.com gland get 15 off at leaffilter.com Glenn Beck. Sorry, gotta have you both names. Glenn Beck. Leaffilter.com Glenn beck. Minimum purchase required restrictions apply. Talk to the people. Get all the details.

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Welcome to the program. You know, we're just talking about Canada, trying to show how we need to look deeper into all of our problems. Instead of saying housing prices are so high and it's whatever, blame, whatever, it's that, why don't we look deeper into things? You know, people are growing angry. Housing prices, affordable health care, loss of culture. Why? Why? Because of the political decisions that were made to, in, in many cases to import huge population growth and that drove up the price of everything, the loss of culture. Why was that decision? Are we talking about that? And are we talking about what are we going to do to get that under control? No, instead we just argue about you have a right to be a country without a border. Gas prices, fuel prices, heating prices, even groceries. Well, blame it on Trump because of the Iran war. Well, why, why did he go to war? Because we had terror and he said he was going to stop all foreign wars. No, he never said that. See, this is a possible solution to be able to get ourselves, I mean, to fix the oil prices in America at least. You have to produce your own oil, you have to refine your own oil, and you have to stop being held hostage by crazy people in the Middle East. So we have to go over to war all the time. I don't want a war for oil. So the war in Iran is a possible solution. May not work, may not be the solution you would come up with, but it's not, it's, it's at least a possible solution that the president chose. Okay, we. If you want to solve the problem, you have to come up with a way to, to not be held hostage by crazy people. You have to stop doing business on oil with unsavory characters like Russia or Iran. You have to stop shutting down your own supply to oil, start drilling for your own resources, open your nuclear power plants back up, open your oil rigs back up. But that's not what's happening. Nobody's talking about that because they're getting more and more angry. And I'll tell you, one place I worry about and one place I cheer for and pray for are the people in Ireland. They are rising up and they have had enough of all of this. But I don't know how this ends. Ben Scalan is with us. He's Grip Media senior political correspondent. He is a conservative leaning Irish news outlet, Gripped is and he's here to tell us about what is actually happening in Ireland and what the protesters are doing today. How is this going, what is the reaction and is there any progress? Ben, welcome.

Ben Scalan (71:11)

Well, thank you so much for having me, Diane, Great to be here.

Glenn Beck (71:13)

Thank you. So what is happening currently on the ground with the protest in Ireland?

Ben Scalan (71:19)

So as you have no doubt heard, because it did make international press, the last couple of weeks have been very eventful here in the Emerald Isle. We've seen massive blockades of major roads all over the country with truckers and farmers in particular who are protesting over the price of petrol. Many of these are business owners who are literally now operating at a loss where they can't even, you know, pay the bills, let alone make a profit or have any kind of a thriving business. And in a country like Ireland that is so known for its agricultural sector, you know, this is one of our major, you know, when you think of Ireland, you think of farming. You know, some of our agricultural products are the best in the world. And so this is a huge deal. And one of the elements of this, of course, is the Iran war. Needless to say, that's been the primary driver of fuel prices worldwide. But for many years now In Ireland, over 50% of motor fuel prices are purely comprised of government taxes and levies. So when you fill up your car, over half of what you're paying is going straight into the state's coffers. And so that's been the case for a long time. People haven't been happy about it for a long time, but they've kind of just accepted it. It's been a grumbling issue in the background that people have begrudgingly tolerated. But then when the price of energy worldwide explodes and people are not able to make ends meet, this has now become kind of the focal point where people are saying, well, why are we paying so much taxes and what are you going to do about it? Given that this is something that you can immediately do to pull the rip cord and help every citizen in the

Glenn Beck (73:05)

state, it's kind of like, I think what they're demanding is kind of like when we have oil crisis, we go into the strategic oil reserve and it reduces the price some degree. But with you controlling the government, controlling 50% of the price just through taxes, you would think that it would be a no brainer, especially when people are this unhappy, just to go, okay, we're going to reduce it by 50%. You know, we have to have some of it, but we're going to take 50% of the taxes and reduce them at least temporarily. Why won't they do that?

Ben Scalan (73:36)

Well, they did a small tax cut that many people who are in these industries are saying is woefully inadequate and has just been eaten up by inflation almost as quickly as it was put on. And they, for example, just to give one practical example of a measure they took, we have annual scheduled carbon tax increases. And the explicit purpose of this is to deliberately force people out of their cars. That was actually what one transport minister said back in 2019, to make it so unaffordable to drive your car that you're forced to take a bike or public transport or get an electric vehicle or something like that. So that is the express purpose of the policy, is to hurt you. And lo and behold, it's hurting you. So now that that's become very politically thorny for the government, they've postponed the carbon tax hike until October. So they haven't even said we're going to reduce carbon tax or we're not going to put carbon tax up. They've just kicked the can down the road by a few months. But as many analysts have pointed out, by this point, October is going to be coming into winter when energy prices are going to surge. So you're going to be hit with a particularly large bill, bigger than you would ordinarily be hit with just when you need energy the most. So that's where we are now. It's not really satisfactory so far as many of the protesters are concerned.

Glenn Beck (75:03)

So if you're flying, you know, through Europe, they're actually now saying the EU is saying we may not have enough jet fuel. I really don't understand how this is not going deeper to say to the politicians and to the people of Europe saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, we can't afford jet fuel. We have a real problem. Everything stops without jets flying. We have a real problem. And you're either manufacturing this to get us to not fly and to not drive or. You've made so many errors. Is anybody talking about opening up the oil rigs again? Opening up drilling, opening up this, you know, the system that will give you cheaper energy?

Ben Scalan (75:47)

There are people who are calling for that, but the government is emphatic that we will not be doing that. You know, Glenn, that in Ireland we import 100% of the oil that's used on the island. We have one oil refinery, but we don't actually generate any. And it is estimated by independent assessors that we have hundreds of millions of barrels of oil potentially off the coast within our territorial waters. But in 2020, the government actually banned oil exploration so that you can't look for it offshore. So that's potentially sitting there under the ground and nobody is allowed to look for it or try to utilize that. And at the same time, we're importing it. We don't have any nuclear power because that's something that we haven't really even discussed approaching here, let alone actually implementing it. Yeah, we will import the electricity that's generated in nuclear countries like France. So we are one of the most energy exposed countries in Europe. And Europe, as a continent is incredibly energy exposed relative to a country like America, which obviously has its own domestic supplies of this stuff. So we're incredibly.

Glenn Beck (77:02)

We were doing the same thing until Trump. We were shutting it all down. We were making it impossible to get our own energy and we were headed exactly the same way. And thank God for Donald Trump to say, nope, we're drilling, Drill, drill, drill, we're pulling it up. But we haven't built a refinery here in so long. Everything we drill we have to sell overseas because we can't refine its light, sweet crude. We can't refine it here because we don't build refineries. So our prices of gas are still up through the roof because all the oil we put, we pull, we have to sell to somebody else. Ben, it seems like much of the west, including here in America, is on this suicidal course that we just. That the policies that are being imposed are just pushing us into suicide as nations or even a culture. Do you see hope on the other side? Do you think things are going to change? Is this a straw that broke the camel's back or.

Ben Scalan (78:03)

Well, the protesters here, when they were blocking certain kinds of infrastructure as a form of protest, the government accused them of an act of national sabotage. I wonder what kind of sabotage it is to deliberately increase the price of energy on citizens with the express purpose of making Their life harder. I think there's a lot of people in the crowd who would have called that an act of national sabotage. I'm not aware of another region outside of Europe that does that. Given, as you know, and as your listeners know, energy is the lifeblood, the lifeblood of any kind of society or economy. This is the essence of the modern world, how we are able to heat ourselves, feed ourselves, transport ourselves. Without that, everything grinds to a halt. And so the idea that you would go out of your way as a state to intentionally make it harder for people to utilize that seems absurd to me. And of course, they say if a government minister was sitting here, that this is all being replaced with green energy. But we've been pursuing that for decades now, and we're still in the position we're in. So without even getting into, you know, you could have all the arguments you want about the efficacy of windmills and offshore wind and all these different renewable measures that they push, but if that was all it was cracked up to be, I don't think we would be in the calamitous situation we're in now. The results kind of speak for themselves.

Glenn Beck (79:40)

I'm going over to England to speak at the Tommy Robinson rally, and my wife is like, what? What should we expect? I mean, how dangerous is going to be? And I'm like, it's gonna be fine, honey. It's gonna be fine. But the one thing that has crossed my mind is, you know, it's easy to blame Donald Trump for the price of oil, and I mean, it was his move that has caused all of this. So, yes, in some ways, it absolutely is. Is our fault. How. What is the population's view on America and Americans at this time?

Ben Scalan (80:18)

Well, frankly, Ireland is very hostile to Donald Trump overall. There are exceptions. Of course. You're never going to get unanimity on somebody who's as polarizing as the U.S. president. But I think there was a poll done not too long ago which found that if Ireland had a vote in the US Presidential election, we would vote Democrats with a bigger margin than California. So we would literally be the most liberal state in the US if we were to have a vote in such things. So, yeah, a lot of. A lot of people blame Donald Trump. And, you know, obviously there's an argument. There's a strong argument for that, given that's happened. But, yeah, I also think, you know, these. All the measures that we're discussing, climate measures, green energy measures, all this recent crisis is doing is giving us a time machine like glance into the future of what they would be hoping for us. You know, how can you complain that Donald Trump is restricting our supply of oil when European leaders for decades have been deliberately trying to destroy their own supply of oil? You know, isn't he doing our own job for us? That, you guys tell us, is the objective of success of governments? You know, you can't really blame him for delivering us into the utopia that we were all aiming for.

Glenn Beck (81:44)

Good, good, good point, Ben. Thank you so much. And we pray for your people and I hope it, it, it works out. We pray for your farmers. I'm a, when I say I am a farmer, I own farmland and, and, and cattle, a ranch. So I can relate to what the farmer is going through. And it is a really, really hard life. You don't need anything else to, to make it even more difficult. So we pray for you. Thank you.

Ben Scalan (82:11)

Thank you, Glenn.

Glenn Beck (82:12)

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John Solomon (83:20)

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Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. There is a ton going on. We have the latest on Iran. Looks like there is an internal civil war inside of Iran that is is going on That's a really good thing. As long as we have Kharg island, they're. They're toast. It's only a matter of time. FIS is up for renewal. The splc, the Southern Poverty Law Center. That is, I mean, that's an organ of a color revolution. I believe Virginia redeemed, redistricting, the SAVE act, all these things are happening all at once. We're going to have an extra hour or half hour of the show right after, right after we leave the air here. I've just got a couple of things I'm going to propose something for, to settle this FISA thing and, and I want to share it with you, but time is of the essence, so we'll do it today right after this hour. We will continue online at Glenville. I have Kevin McCarthy joining me now from the speaker that he's, you know, a former speaker of the House. Now, what happens with Virginia and the House? What happens with the SAVE Act? I also want to talk about Swalwell. I mean, there was an interview that I saw recently from 2019 with McCarthy, and he, he said, you know, we knew about this. You know, we know this is going on back in 2019. Well, why? Who is protecting him? Why were they protecting him? How does that work? I mean, I think I know the answer to this, but we're going to talk to him about it in 60 seconds. First, the convenience of modern American life sometimes complicates efforts to hold on to your own values. Wasn't that long ago, if you wanted a good cell phone coverage, you had to pretty much go with the big boys, Companies like Verizon, AT&T or T Mobile. And you took the service that you needed, you paid the bill, and you hope, you know, not to think too hard what those companies were doing with those company profits for a long time. That's how it worked. You compromised a little for the sake of convenience because you felt like there wasn't any other option. Well, now there is. It's Patriot Mobile, America's only Christian conservative wireless company. They give you coverage and reliability that you would expect with access to all three major networks, but without asking you to fund companies that actively push your values that you don't share. Instead, Patriot Mobile supports the family, the, the faith and the family and the freedom, values and the principles that built this country that you do share. You don't have to choose between what works and what you believe. Go to patreonmobile.com Beck right now. 972 Patriot use the promo code. Beck free month of service. It's patreonmobile.com Beck 972 Patreon Kevin, welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

Kevin McCarthy (90:04)

Very good. You?

Glenn Beck (90:05)

I'm. I'm good. It's a pleasure to have you on. You know, I was just saying, I saw an interview that you did in. I think it's 2019, when you joined leadership, and Swalwell was in his sophomore year. The Democrats knew about his relationship with a Chinese spy. You were talking about it then. That's incredible to me that nothing happened.

Kevin McCarthy (90:25)

Nobody said, I tried. I tried to remove him. I made a privileged motion. And the Democrats. Pelosi. He's Pelosi's pet. You got to understand, to be on intel, it's the hardest committee to get on. Only the leader picks okay on both sides. And as a sophomore, they're sitting in the minority. There's not very many seats. She elevates him. The FBI then comes and says, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You got a problem. He's sleeping with the Chinese. Spike. She gets the briefing, and Banner. Nothing happens. I become leader. I now have the right to the briefing. I find out about it. She takes the briefing with me, and I look at her and said, you can't keep them on. You got to now speak. You got to put somebody else on. And she wouldn't. So I made a motion, and she. And she worked against it to keep them.

Glenn Beck (91:15)

Why?

Kevin McCarthy (91:19)

And then when I became speaker, I removed him.

Glenn Beck (91:21)

But why did she? Why did she?

Kevin McCarthy (91:25)

Because he. He was her protege. She even elevated him to a position inside steering. Decides where all the committees, who gets what when they fight and all that. She made him vice chair so he would do whatever she wanted. Same thing with Shift. They all elevated him to make him something special and protected him. I knew about the Chinese based upon the FBI, and I came forward with that. That's why I removed him from Intel. I didn't know he was drugging women, but I was told by Democratic congresswomen, don't get around that guy. He's creepy, right? And so that's what people knew. She defended him this whole time, kept elevating him.

John Solomon (92:12)

When.

Kevin McCarthy (92:13)

When I removed him from Intel Committee. Hakeem Jeffries become leader. He tried to reappoint. Said wouldn't do it. The San Francisco Chronicle that eventually came out with these stories criticized me for doing that. Said I was just playing politics. Think about the number of young women we could have saved had they not done things like that that followed his removal.

Glenn Beck (92:39)

So usually stuff happens like this, and you put corrupt People in. Because if you're corrupt, you can control them. They'll do exactly what you say because you'll say, no, you are doing that. Otherwise I destroy you. I reveal everything I know. Is that what was happening?

Kevin McCarthy (92:57)

This is true. That's what I believe. Because look what happened. He didn't jump into the governor's race early. You had Katie Porter in there that was rising. Then all of a sudden they dropped these videos on because Pelosi and Gavin and Schiff, they didn't like Katie Porter. Okay, so she collapses. Then all of a sudden Swalwell gets into that race and the Democratic apparatus shift comes out. Everybody gets behind him. The cta, the seiu, they start giving him a lot of money, but they also put a lot in for Super Pack. But there is one person in that group that doesn't endorse him. Nancy Pelosi. When this comes forward, okay, right before it all, when it first comes out, she treats it like Joe Biden. Protects Joe Biden the entire time. When people know he's not all mentally there. But the moment the nation finds out, she's the first one to remove him. I believe she knew the other stories because about right when I left, I had a reporter come to me about a young Democratic staffer that had. That had a problem with him. I got her an attorney. She didn't know I was the one who got an attorney for. So I believe if I heard these stories, Pelosi had to have known. That's why she didn't endorse him for governor. When it started getting. When people started really looking into it. And then she went to knock them out once. Once the paper printed it.

Glenn Beck (94:35)

So how many people do you think, Kevin, are like this? How much of the stuff. Because, you know, we'll see.

Kevin McCarthy (94:45)

Stuff.

Glenn Beck (94:45)

It's quite obvious something is wrong here. What, what is the percentage of people like this?

Kevin McCarthy (94:52)

Now, I don't want people to say, look, there's a lot of good people on both sides of the aisle. A lot of people. Yeah, all the way through. It's a. It's a microcosm of society congresses. So you're going to have good and bad. Now, I'm going to be fair. I went to. We had a member on the Republican side, Matt Gates. And I stood up to Matt Gates. He's the reason he made the motion to remove me is because I would not stop the Invest Ethics investigation against them.

Glenn Beck (95:20)

Right.

Kevin McCarthy (95:21)

And lo and behold, I was correct. He did sleep with an underage girl. Now, the other concern I have here is on Smallwell. He has two really close friends. One is a senator now, Gallegos, and another is a congressman, Gomez. Gallegos was his chairman of his campaign when he ran for president. Gomez was the chairman of his race for governor. They weren't just close, they were together all the time. The stories I heard about Swalwell, I'd hear about those two as well, how quickly they ran. Once it got printed and I had some of the Democrats come to me and say how ironic that these two are running because they believe they have the exact same problem.

Glenn Beck (96:05)

And they probably thought they had the same kind of protection they did.

Kevin McCarthy (96:11)

If the speaker, if Nancy Pelosi is protecting you in the Democratic caucus, you're golden if she elevates you because she tells you now you're the vice chair. But this is who I want you to pick in a race to who gets the committee. He did it every time. When Kevin comes after you, I'll get all the Democrats to vote one way and we'll protect you and then we'll elevate you. When we don't like who's running for governor, we want you to run. And they put all the political apparatus behind her. And then what happens right after that? Once the public knows it, it just flashbacks to Joe Biden. Remember, I was the earliest one to come out and said, look, I met with the President, he's not all there. They criticized. I worked with the Wall Street Journal. We had to work for more than six months to make that story come out for the public. They all attacked everybody. They put all the talk shows, Morning Joe and all that, like something is wrong with me. And then once he gets on stage for the nations to see it, they're the first ones to run from him. Said he's got to go. They knew and been lying to the American public this whole time.

Glenn Beck (97:17)

So one of the CNN came out and they said, you know, this is just good gumshoe journalism that finally exposed this. And I said that it's not. I don't even think Swalwell is the story. I mean, it is a story, but that's not the story. The story is how. Who did know all these years, who did know this stuff was going on. Right. It's the COVID up of this.

Ben Scalan (97:43)

Yeah.

Kevin McCarthy (97:44)

And they're letting Nancy Pelosi. Oh, no, I didn't know about it. You know, what's so egregious to me is something's happening in the Republican group. Tony Gonzalez, I hope that man get elected. He faltered, okay. But I was the first one to say he needed to resign before the election, not to cover him. And then after the election comes out and then people want to. This is a challenge that we have.

Glenn Beck (98:13)

How are we, I mean, I'd be remiss in not asking you how the Republicans going to do in the midterms and then post Trump.

Kevin McCarthy (98:22)

Well, right now I'm very concerned, especially about the House and there's a couple, couple measurements. Yeah, Virginia. Now to me, I do not like what's happening in this redistricting because now we're letting politicians pick their voters instead. The voters pick who they want to represent us. I'm opposed to all that. I've put my own money in against California. I sent 100,000 for the Virginias. We did. Now one positive thing here, when everybody's saying negative, we did increase Republican vote by 3% from the 24 presidential. If we were able to do that in election, we would be in a much better place. But if you look historically, whoever wins on the off year election for governor, New Jersey and Virginia, if the Democrats win both, historically, they flip the House. If Republicans win one, we flip the House. But if you look at that delegate races, there were eight Republicans who were running for reelection in Virginia and they were in seats that Harris carried in the presidential. They all lost. There were five Republicans running for reelection in those seats that Trump carried. We lost five of them up to 4.5%. So that concerns me. If you look at the presidential race, President Trump carries all the swing states. He wins the popular vote, which is very big for Republicans, a president, and they lost seats in the House four years prior when we didn't win the presidency, it was the first time since 1994 not one Republican incumbent lost and we beat 15 Democrats. So how do we win then and lose now? That means President Trump did very well, but the party didn't. And if you take it a step further, in the last 70 races for the Senate in the presidential year, 69 of the 70 states, however they vote for president, that party wins. But this time President Trump won Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin. But the Republicans didn't win those Senate seats. So they're underperforming. And then when I'm watching the highest number of retirements kind of in modern history, the number of times we're losing discharge petitions in three weeks, we lost more discharge petitions than we have in 30 years. And you got to understand what that is. It's a rule that if you get 218 members of either party to sign a discharge Petition. It's about one bill. That bill automatically comes to the floor. When you do that, you're turning the floor over to the minority. In my entire political career in Congress, only one time did a discharge petition go. And the speaker at that time, Republican speaker, wanted it to happen. Now they just had a discharge petition, a bill passed that was offered by one of the AOC crowd. Unbelievable. So that's a bad sign. You're not working together. And then when the government. When the Democrats shut down the government, you're only given 24 months to have a majority. The Senate stayed in session. The House did not.

Glenn Beck (101:36)

I know.

Kevin McCarthy (101:37)

If I'm in the minority and the House shuts down, the minority's winning. Because you're not passing. You're giving up two months of your 24 months. I know. Why wouldn't you be in there asking things every single day? Put the 80, 20 issues on the floor. And you know what? Come November, you'd show the Democrats voted against this.

Ben Scalan (101:55)

So I would show.

Glenn Beck (101:57)

Go ahead.

Kevin McCarthy (101:57)

Those Democrats voted to keep Swalwell run on that, too.

Glenn Beck (102:02)

Let me. I only have about a minute left. Let me ask you.

Kevin McCarthy (102:05)

Yes.

Glenn Beck (102:05)

What am I missing on Thune? Because none of this makes sense on the voter ID stuff. Why isn't that going through with as popular as it is, what needs to happen?

Kevin McCarthy (102:16)

Okay, so the Senate has different rules in the House. The House is pure. Whoever has the majority. I don't like all this Republican on a Republican fight when we're trying to keep it. Okay. I just. Up front, when I watch others on the outside fighting, you got to unite. And what I would do, Thune wants this to pass through. What Thune has is some members who may not and has some Democrats who may not. So you need more votes than just Republicans. Otherwise, you've got to change the rules. That's the decision where you want to go. But the Save America act, it is so popular with Republicans and Democrats. I would take it by pieces then. Okay. And I would put each piece one by one. Okay. Voter id just put that up and see all who would vote for that, then add the next piece. And then what you can do, you can tobble it all back together after they vote for it. But if you keep it all together, I've watched this on difficult bills, and everybody wants to pick one thing they can't be for. Okay, then let's put it piece by piece and really show the American public and jam it right at you. And then piece it back together and show.

Ben Scalan (103:28)

No.

Kevin McCarthy (103:28)

It's the way to Go. You got to think outside the box and you got to put harder pressure. That's the way I would look at it.

Glenn Beck (103:35)

Kevin, great to Talk to Kevin McCarthy, former U.S. house Speaker. Appreciate it, sir. Thank you.

Kevin McCarthy (103:42)

Thank you.

Glenn Beck (103:42)

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Jason (105:26)

Jason hey, Glenn. Gosh, man. There's just so much stuff today. I mean there was the FBI on the FBI, the new case that they were spying on the gop. I've talked about that a little bit to the insiders. I thought just they must have been talking about Arctic Frost. They had to have been. Just more details leaking out bit by bit. But it was actually something completely different. They're calling it Operation Rampart 12.

Glenn Beck (105:49)

What is this one?

Jason (105:51)

So pretty much the same thing. But what's crazy is the predication that was used to start Biden's DOJ and FBI to spring into action on this. It sounds like it was just rumors that spilled out from other Democrats that said, hey, we think that you guys should look into some of these Republicans. And so they did, apparently. It just makes me wonder, Glenn, if these people ever do get power again just based off of what they have done. The little things that are leaking out now about it and we still don't really see any kind of movement to ensure this does not happen again.

Glenn Beck (106:27)

I mean, what the heck, look at what you know, look at Spanberger, what she said. You know, she ran as a moderate and look what she's done. They're not saying they're going to be moderate on any of these things now they're saying that they are. There's going to be a purge. You know, they're going to get rid of the filibuster there. I mean they are going to do all of it. They're going to do all of it. And I think there is real trouble coming. My gosh, if we get, if we get the House, the House or if we lose the House, the House is going to do nothing but impeachment for two years. If you keep the Senate, it won't go anywhere but it'll just be nonstop impeachment and scandal and everything else the whole time.

Jason (107:09)

Yeah, I hesitate to call impeachment the bare minimum, but I mean, I think, yeah, that's just part of the plan. I was just talking also to the insiders about, you know, there were comments from James Carville on don't talk about it, you know, just do it. On day one he's saying to make two more states, D.C. and Puerto Rico and pack the Supreme Court. Now that's just James Carville just saying this. But just a few days later the New York Times writes this article basically making the case that the Supreme Court is partisan. Why are you doing that? Unless you're setting up this big push to pack the Supreme Court? If you do get power again, you

Glenn Beck (107:41)

attack the Supreme Court. That is the last and final step to a dictatorship, to a banana republic. Once you start messing with the Supreme Court and the numbers, history shows every time that leads to a failed state, it's truly terrifying what they are openly talking about. Now most people think of sleep at the end of the day, but it's not, it's the start of the next one. Because tomorrow often depends on what happens tonight. You know, whether you wake up clear headed or foggy, whether you have energy or you're running on fumes by 10 in the morning. Whether you feel ready for the day or you're already behind, that's why I tell you about Z Factor from Relief Factor. It goes beyond melatonin. It's, it's a blend of all natural ingredients, four different natural ingredients designed to help relax your mind so you can fall asleep faster, stay asleep more soundly and wake up feeling refreshed instead of groggy. It's safe to take every single night. I take it every night when you know it matters because you have to build up a routine of sleeping. Georgia wrote in, she said that she sleeps great. She gets up early and gets a early start every day. Flori said great product. No morning grogginess. That's really the key, I think. Try it right now. You can say 46% on your first order. It's 1995 for a 30 day supply. Call 800, 800 for relief. That's 800, the number four relief or visit relieffactor.com better sleep, better days from Z factor with relief factor relieffactor.com. The rare Glenn Overtime segment is coming

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Glenn Beck (109:42)

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. There is man, so much to deal with today. We are lucky enough to have John Solomon with us today. He is one of my favorite journalists. He is a guy who pisses off everybody on all sides and that's, that's how you know he's a good journalist because he lets the chips fall where they may. He started Just the News. He's the CEO and editor in chief of Just the News. John Solomon, welcome to the program. How are you?

John Solomon (110:10)

Yeah, doing well, Glenn. Good to be with you.

Glenn Beck (110:12)

Good, good. I want to start with the splc. How airtight is this case?

John Solomon (110:20)

Yeah, it seems to be pretty airtight. They have specific transactions, about $3 million in transactions that the government has traced through bank records and wires to people who were in extremist groups, people like the KKK and others that were acting allegedly as informants for the splc. And the question will become here, does that constitute fraud? If you're SPLC and you say your job is to fight hate, but you have delivered money to people who are members of hate groups without the controls that an FBI or Justice Department would have with a cooperating informant. Have you committed fraud? But the wire transactions are pretty clearly laid out in the indictment. And there is, this is an extraordinary flipping of the script of splc. I mean, this is a group that grew its fame by standing alongside those who were Being discriminated against in the 50s, 60s and 70s during the Civil rights movement. Today they stand accused of funding the very people who continue to espouse hate in America. And I think that the notion that a nonprofit could have an informant system moving monies to these groups is troubling to a lot of people that I've talked about to in the last couple. Even if it was well intentioned.

Glenn Beck (111:38)

Right.

John Solomon (111:38)

Probably not allowed for under the tax code under which they're, they're constituted the tax code.

Glenn Beck (111:45)

I mean I know I run a 501C3 and I don't think I, I think it would be pretty obvious that I shouldn't open bank accounts under false names and hire money to really bad guys.

John Solomon (111:57)

Yeah, that's it. That's it.

Glenn Beck (111:59)

Yeah. So USA Today I think think is carrying water for them. This is what it says. The Southern Poverty Law center was indicted for paying sources to infiltrate hate groups, a tactic used by federal agencies for decades. But the key here is they weren't a federal agency.

John Solomon (112:15)

So that's exactly what are the, that's the important part.

Glenn Beck (112:17)

What are the safeguards? What, what separates them from the federal agency being allowed to do that?

John Solomon (112:23)

Well, first, the federal agencies when they do this are often under the authorization of a federal court. There is civil liberties protections considered and when identities are used, they're approved under lawful measures. Here the, the SPLC decided it was going to be an FBI light, for lack of a better word. And you don't have the right to create fictitious, fictitious accounts. There's nothing in the bank laws that say, hey, you can make a fake account if you're doing SPLC work. And I think it, I think also keep in mind where this was filed. This was filed in Alabama. It's a no nonsense state. It's going to be a tough jury for the SPLC to face. But you and I can't create a fake bank account, nor can the splc. Only the government can, under the direction of a court and under very tight regulation that protects civil liberties. And here there are some really serious concerns about civil liberties too, which is when a nonprofit group rises to government type work without supervision, do they risk harming someone's civil liberties?

Glenn Beck (113:24)

So is there any evidence at all that they were working in tandem with the FBI DOJ or Deep State?

John Solomon (113:31)

Well, we know that the FBI in the Chris Ray era particularly relied on SPLC to identify hate groups. Remember that SPLC tried to suggest that Moms for Liberty was a hate group. I think they frankly flagged Charlie Kirk's group. A lot of conservatives felt like those were extreme labels that didn't belong in either of those groups. The FBI often in the past relied on SPLC to identify hate groups, oftentimes to the detriment of the FBI. That's why we probably had the problems with going after Latin Catholics and Latin Mass Catholics and parents and school board meetings. Now, I'm not suggesting Espousee directly funded those or impressed those, but they created a nonprofit system that the FBI would listen to. And they were all on the far left. And over time, the far left just used these designations to hang nasty signs. And Hester Prynne, as on conservative groups, they just didn't like. And so Cash Patel comes in, he ends those relationships, and then in the course of ending those relationships, he found out what the FBI knew, which was, hey, these guys are setting up fake bank accounts accounts and working it. To date, we haven't seen any documents that suggest the FBI authorized a non profit to do so. It is probably unlikely given the. The code of law.

Glenn Beck (114:46)

So was it most, most likely that they just, the SPLC just knew that the FBI will turn a blind eye because we're doing their work, we're helping them.

John Solomon (114:56)

Yeah, we'll see what their defense is. I don't have a good sense of what it is. The SPLC of 2026 is not the same as SPLC of the 1960s and 70s. And so these groups evolve and sometimes they get too big for their britches and we'll see where a jury comes down. But it is kind of a remarkable thing to think that the SPLC was sending money to hate groups so that they could essentially be more hateful in hopes of being able to spy on that hate. It just doesn't seem like the right sort of system from a common sense standpoint.

Glenn Beck (115:26)

So does this, does this. I mean, least this one was announced by the doj. I mean, you know, it looks like we're going to prosecute here. More investigations on nonprofits coming.

John Solomon (115:39)

Yeah, I think we're about to enter into. We have maga, we have maha, we have all these great acronyms. I think we're about to enter into a period of M A Make America accountable again. I think with Pam Bondi moved aside, the speed at which the just Justice Department will move on. Things that have been working in the system for months is picking up. And so there'll be more non profits that were doing things that probably are not allowed under the tax code. If you're, if you incorporate yourself to say we want a Tax exemption because we're going to do public good. And you have struck law enforcement proceedings on the streets of Minnesota or somewhere else, you're probably in danger of having committed fraud. So I would look and see. I'm watching. I think there'll be more indictments in the nonprofit realm. Then we're looking at those who may have given false testimony or obstructed Congress. We know John Brennan was referred for that, James Comey was targeted for that. I think those are on the table right now. Then those who may have gone and gotten phone records and pierced the privacy of individuals, they're next in line. So this line keeps moving. And then I think in the summer and fall, we're going to talk a lot more about a case called Operation Round River. It may be the most troubling of the four. Yeah, Round River. Just remember that name, what we believe. Yeah. So it falls between Crossfire Hurricane and then plasmic echo and Arctic Frost. Plasmic echo and Arctic Frost. Those are the things that evolve into Jack Smith's investigations, the classified documents as possible cosmic echo. Arctic Frost is the idea. Years later, we're going to go back and charge President Trump with a conspiracy because he and his people wanted to have alternate electors. Now, it's important in that Arctic Frost, which there was a great hearing on yesterday. Two times in history before this, presidential candidates did submit alternate Electors to Congress. 1960, John Kennedy, 1876, Sam Tilden. Neither time were those considered criminal acts. But in, in Donald Trump's world, he's considered a criminal for doing it the third time. That's what autocross is. But between that, when Russia collusion and Crossfire Hurricane was ending, the FBI opened up a new investigation called Round River. And its goal was to neutralize anyone who would dare suggest that there was a corrupt relationship between Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and the Ukrainian government or the Ukrainian company Burisma. And to treat people who talked about it with certain speech parameters as national security threats. And I'm working hard to get those files declassified, and I think that's going to be the most troubling because I believe if, if what we're being told is true, and I want to check it until we get it there, there may have been speech parameters as the reason you were targeted. If you said something, you might have been assessed the security threat as a security threat by the FBI, that would be very troubling. I've seen some evidence in court filings in the last few days that entire law firms had their client records Taken secretly under this investigation or spin offs from it. You know, you're supposed to have some privacy when you have a relationship with you and your lawyer. So we'll see where that leads. But all the people I've talked to in government think that Round river may be the most jaw dropping of the four code name investigations that targeted Donald Trump and his followers.

Glenn Beck (118:49)

So talk to me about Tulsi Gabbard. You said, you know, may things may move faster now that Tulsi Gabbard is moved aside. But I mean, she just really released some powerful, powerful things.

John Solomon (118:59)

Pam Bondi. I'm sorry.

Glenn Beck (119:00)

Okay.

John Solomon (119:00)

Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi moved aside. Yeah.

Glenn Beck (119:02)

Okay, good, good.

John Solomon (119:02)

Yeah, Tulsi's been a fantastic, I mean, listen, I've had to, you know, we had to work with the group because sometimes the Intelligence committee isn't prone to transparency. But yeah, she listened to our arguments and she has been great. And she's, I think carefully and wisely declassified some very important things.

Glenn Beck (119:19)

Really important, important things go through the election. What is, what are we missing from the documents that she released related to the impeachment?

John Solomon (119:30)

So I think we have most of it now. We've identified a lot of the players who had code names in those documents. We identified witness to today as a former NSA employee who clearly was anti Trump. So we now know all the players and she's made a criminal referral. And I think the Justice Department will move on that quickly determine if crimes were committed, if they're still in the statute of limitations. Does there need to be a conspiracy charge?

Glenn Beck (119:51)

I think she gave us a whole bundle. Are we still thinking about a grand conspiracy? Because it seems to all fit to that.

John Solomon (119:57)

Yeah, yeah. I think that's why Joe digenova was brought down to Fort Pierce. I broke that story on Saturday and that's an important moment. You have a guy, one of the few lawyers in the history of this company to hold the title of U.S. attorney, Attorney, Independent Counsel and Special Prosecutor. Three times in his life he's been asked to run major, major criminal enterprise investigations. You bring him down to Florida, you mean business and he's a no nonsense, get it done sort of guy. He's clearly conservative, clearly likes Donald Trump. But at the end of the day, what he's most famous for as an independent prosecutor was not charging people who he didn't think committed crimes. He's not a guy that's going to charge a fake crime. He's always been, been honest about that. But if he did commit a crime, he knows how to bring a conspiracy case. And so you look at how he brought the Marionberry corruption scandal in the 1980s under Ronald Reagan, really good conspiracy type investigation. So he's got the experience, the wherewithal, and the independents to go make decisions, sort the wheat from the chaff. There's no doubt that the Florida grand jury in Fort Pierce is looking at the last 10 years as an odd, ongoing conspiracy. A wash, rinse, repeat cycle. Democrat has problem. Hillary Clinton has Russia problem. Democrats create fake narrative, hang Russian shingle on Donald Trump and investigate Donald Trump potentially violating his civil liberties and those around him. Joe Biden has a Ukraine problem. Wash, rinse, repeat. We're going to hang our Ukraine problem on Donald Trump, start an investigation, neutralize his people, potentially violate their civil liberties. Joe Biden has a classified documents problem. They find it by the Corvette in the UPenn office as well. And then they're going to hang a classified documents case on President Trump. And then Joe Biden has a mental acuity problem. It's very obvious in 23, he's got a problem. And so Jack Smith's Arctic frost sort of invents a different concept, which is while we were thinking about the violence at the Capitol, we're not going to charge the President with that, but we are probably going to charge him for conspiring to look at a alternate electors, even though it's been done twice in our country as a criminal conspiracy. Every time the Democrats had a liability, they used the power of government intelligence and law enforcement and prosecution to project that problem onto Republicans and make it a liability along the way. There's a lot of civil liberty rights and civil rights and liberties that probably are violated. And I think that's the theory of the conspiracy case. We'll see if a grand jury buys it.

Glenn Beck (122:19)

John, always good to have you on. John, thank you so much.

John Solomon (122:21)

Great honor.

Glenn Beck (122:21)

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John Solomon (123:38)

Glenn Beck is back after this.

Glenn Beck (124:02)

So I'm going to do an extra half hour of the show today because, because we had so much jammed in and I really wanted to go and do the pros and cons of fisa, because I think this FISA argument, we have a real problem with fisa, obviously. And this is not something that was born after September 11. This was born out of the church committee in the 1970s. And it was born to be able to control the spying. And it is just made things worse. And I have a, I have a solution for it because I think, I think we can't deny anybody who says that, oh, we don't need Pfizer, we don't need to spy outside of the, you know, outside the United States and figure out what's going on and what's coming in here. You're fooling yourself. We have to know what's going on, but we have to be really very careful on what's happening inside. And you should not be able to spy on American cities, citizens without the highest, highest standard. And so I'm both for and against all of this stuff, as I think anybody reasonable could look at both sides and I will lay it out for you here in a minute. But the problem is not oversight. The problem is punishment. And I laid this out for my staff today and they were like, are you sure you want to go on the air with that right now? And I'm like, yeah. And they're like, I. Maybe you should rethink that. And I'm like, nope, not going to rethink it. I just ran out of time. I may, I may share it tomorrow or at least pieces of it tomorrow. But nope, I'm. I'm absolutely sure that I mean what I say and say what I mean. And so we'll talk about that. Also, if you'll get that coming up in about two minutes, we're going to just go from here to the Internet, glenn beck.com torch so if you're a member of the Torch, if not, sign up right now and we're going to give an extra half hour of the show. Also, you get access to all 10 episodes of the American Story, which is just going gangbusters. First two are out with commercials at the public just wherever you get your, wherever you get your podcasts. The first two came out last Saturday and the Saturday before last. You'll get them on Saturdays and they're tremendous. Tremendous. You want to learn history. You want to, you want to teach history, you want to be engaged in history, want to like, live it? Get the American Story. It's based on David and Tim Barton's book American Story, and it's a fully produced audio podcast. You don't want to miss. All 10 episodes of the first season are out right now. Glenn beck.com torch we will see you in about 35 seconds on the torch. Sign up now if you don't already have it. Otherwise, get online. Here we go.

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