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Glenn Beck
One of the most frustrating parts of hearing loss is that it can make you really feel disconnected without ever announcing itself. You're still in the room, you're still nodding along, still showing up, but you're working a lot harder just to keep up. And sometimes you're guessing more than you'd like to admit and you're just hoping. Don't ask me anything because I don't know what we're talking about anymore. What stops a lot of people from doing anything about it is not denial. It's the process. It's the doctor appointments, the multiple visits, the adjustments, the price tag that makes you go, how? What, so people wait and you shouldn't have to. Audien was built to remove those barriers. They have the Atom X. It is an over the counter hearing aid designed to be straightforward and approachable without prescriptions or complicated setups. The charging case has a simple touchscreen, lets you adjust the volume and modes with just tiny little. Without the tiny little buttons or learning curve. And it delivers clear, natural sound. Please it audianhearing.com Take control of your hearing today. Glenn beck is on. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Glenn Beck is on from the Mountain West. Hello, America. This is Glenn. Glenn Beck. And I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but you have to hear me out. You gotta hear me in my own defense. Please hear me out. Bernie Sanders is right. Well, kind of. I mean, not about half right, maybe, maybe a quarter right. But right enough to. To warrant a serious conversation, one that I have had on this program over the last 10 or 12 years, multiple times. But I can guarantee you, even if you were listening that day, you didn't listen to this part of the show. You were. You heard that part of the show, but you didn't listen. Guarantee it. Because I said at the time, nobody's paying attention to this. It has to be discussed right now before it's too late. But everyone thought AI was sci fi robots taking your job. Sci fi. Well, Bernie Sanders came out yesterday with a new plan. Wow, Sounds tremendous. I'm gonna share that with you and show you where he's right and where he's very wrong in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Z Factor. Everything important in life you do starts with a good night's rest, good sleep, your focus, your energy resilience, your self control, even how well your body recovers from the stresses of daily life are all connected to how deeply and consistently you rest. Yet we often accept restless nights, as if they're just part of getting older or living a busy life. And the problem is, a bad night's sleep doesn't stay in the bedroom. It follows you into the next day, affecting your mood, your judgment, your productivity, your ability to handle whatever comes your way. This is why I'm a fan of Z Factor. It's a sleep supplement from the makers of Relief Factor, created to help you fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer, and wake up feeling refreshed. Because the quality of your days often depends on the quality of your nights. So give Z Factor a try today so you can save 46% off your first order at $19.95 for a 30 day supply. All you have to do is call 1-800-for relief. That's 1-800-the number for relief. Visit relieffactor.com Better sleep, better days. All right, I want to talk to you about one word. And this is. This one word describes almost every argument we are actually having in America. And you'll understand how, how that works out here in just a minute. But let me give you that one word that is the actual argument for everything. The one word is mine. Let me explain. This has not hit your kitchen table yet, but it will. Please hear me. This will. And if you don't deal with it now, you will be in panic. And the Bernie Sanders of the world are going to give you something that is dressed up in the prettiest language you've ever heard. You want to date that pretty thing like nobody's business. It's all about artificial intelligence and it's about your data. And underneath all of it is one question. Who owns the future? In the next couple of days, I want to talk to you about energy and these data centers, But I want to talk to you first. About what? Bernie Sanders. And now Bernie Sanders. And I'll give him credit where credit is due. The guy doesn't have a problem. I mean, you know, he, he took his honeymoon over in the former Soviet Union when it was still the scary Soviet Union. So, I mean, he doesn't have a problem telling you exactly who he is. And he just told us his plan and he's calling it the American Sovereign Wealth Fund Act.
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Vinnie Penn
Wow.
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Glenn Beck
Like a Patriot Act. Now, I happen to speak, you know, political bull crap. So let me translate what that actually means. The government he's proposing will take a one time 50% cut of the biggest AI companies in America. OpenAI anthropic.
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Vinnie Penn
All of them.
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Glenn Beck
Okay? And here's the really clever part. He doesn't want it paid in Cash. He wants it paid in stock. He wants Washington to own half the company. Now I warn you, this is going to come from the progressive Republicans as well. We have to say no to this every time. Now he's pairing this with what he calls a robot tax built on a report out of his own Senate committee warning that AI could wipe out nearly 100 million American jobs in the next 10 years. And that's going to happen. So he wants to fix this in a very generous way because, quote, technology belongs to everyone. Wealth belongs to everyone. The future belongs to everyone. Wow, sounds like just a hug from Bernie Sanders. Until you ask the one question that nobody really ever wants you to ask. Bernie. When you say everyone, who is everyone? Now watch, because this is where socialists always have a sleight of hand trick. Every time a politician says everyone, watch their hands. Because everyone always turns into a committee or a board or a fund. A handful of people in a building in Washington making decisions for 350 million people who will never know their names. It's the collective, it's the masses, it's the people. And history is stacked with people who claim to speak for the people right until the moment they were deciding everything for each of us and then executing those who didn't go along with the plan. Now I'm not gonna say that that's Bernie Sanders. I'm not gonna call him a fascist. I think, you know, calling everybody a fascist or labels is pretty lazy unless they deserve it. Honestly, half the people fascists around couldn't define it if you spotted them the first three letters. So I want to be precise on what fascism is, because precision is a strong weapon. The danger here is never goose stepping soldiers. Okay, that's a cartoon. The real danger is always much quieter. It's structural and it shows up in every system that has ever gone wrong. It's when people who create value get separated from the value they create. Now there's lots of ways to define fascism and most people want to make fascism just about nationalism and anti Semitism, but that doesn't help on anything that what is that? Fascism is an actual economic system and one the progressives loved until Hitler. Communism is a system where the state owns the mean of production. Okay, so they own all of the factories and everything else doesn't work. Fascism also doesn't work, but it works better than communism. And that's where the state partners with corporations and owners. That's it. That's the whole disease in one sentence. When it is socialism or fascism or communism, the rule is the Same. The state becomes the owner or a part owner and the referee and the player all at once. And when that happens, you don't get a fairer game. You get a rigged game. It doesn't matter what flag is flying over or what label you want to give it. It doesn't matter what it's called in the textbook. Bernie Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist. Fine, I'll take him at his word. Okay? But the mechanism. He's describ, bribing Washington, holding the stock Washington steering the harvest. That's the dangerous part. You need to watch. Not the label, the machine that he wants to build. Okay, so it kills me to say this, but this is something I have been saying for 15 years and people haven't heard me because the problem seemed like sci fi machines and robots taking everybody's job and nobody paid attention. And AI still is pretty much just some, you know, thing that you just put a question in and it answers it for you. I told you several years ago, we have to talk about AI, the job situation, and ubi. I've said this several times that we need to discuss the alternatives, because UBI is not the answer. But when we get to this point, everybody is going to say, oh, we got to do something. And guys like Bernie Sanders will step up and he'll be half right. Hear me out. Bernie Sanders is half right. He said you helped build this thing. It's true. You did. For 20 years, you fed it. Every search, every email, every photo, every review you ever wrote at midnight, every click. Billions of people poured the. Poured the single largest collection of human experience ever assembled into these systems. And then a handful of these companies that knew exactly what they were building in the 1990s, turned it into some of the most valuable assets in the history of the world. So when somebody stands up and say, says, hey, the American people had a hand in creating this, they're not wrong. And that question of, hey, wait a minute, you built this on the back of us. What do we get? That's an honest question. But the answer is, is where people fall off a cliff. Because Bernie Sanders answer. And other people on both sides of the aisle, Mike, mark my words, their answer will be, take it, tax it, nationalize at least half of it. Let Washington hold the keys. And my answer, the American answer is a world, a word that is older than the Republic itself. Property. Property. The reason why you can't take it from them is because of private property. But wait a minute. What about your property? I want you to think about how this works. In every other aspect of your life, in every other corner of your life, somebody strikes rich, strikes oil on your property, under your house. Okay? Texans know this. What. What happens? Well, Washington doesn't seize the oil company. If you're smart. When you bought your house in Texas, you retained the. The mineral rights. And so if somebody finds oil underneath your land, you get a check. Somebody records your song. Washington doesn't nationalize the record label. You own the song, so you get the royalty. Somebody builds on your patent. Washington doesn't confiscate the factory. You own the patent, you own the invention. So I have one question. Why is it your data, which is the most valuable thing you own, that. That is the one thing that is the most personal to you, but yet you don't own it for some reason, Property, that intellectual property doesn't apply here. I want you to know this is not some fever dream I cooked up on a chalkboard. Serious. People have been chewing on this for years. People in Silicon Valley, Tea Party, or guys, I can't remember his name, Jason something or other, but he's been arguing that your data has dignity and a price. Andrew Yang was on this program 10, 12 years ago saying your data should be your property. And I agree with him. This idea crosses every line that we usually fight across. Okay, so how do we come to an answer? The difference is what you do with it. Because America is standing at a massive fork in the road. And if you are a true conservative, you need to get ahead of this. So I'm going to give you two paths. Bernie Sanders path and my path. And I'm going to show you the difference and why Bernie Sanders is dangerous on this and why we have to discuss this and how we can. How we can solve an awful lot of our problems that by keeping our principles. I'll give you those two paths here in just a second. First, let me tell you about our sponsor. Our sponsor this half hour is Patriot Mobile. The little decisions in life add up, you know, the decision to take the stairs instead of the elevator, the decision to put a little money into savings. You get the idea. Things that shape our lives are really small choices made consistently over time that eventually lead us somewhere. Which is why I think it's worth paying attention to where your money goes every single month. Your cell phone bill may not feel like a big decision. It's just one of those things you pay, but the monthly payments add up. That's why I like Patriot Mobile. They give you dependable nationwide coverage on all three major networks, along with a US based customer service while supporting the values that you care about. And I care about free speech, religious liberty, all of that stuff. It's a small decision, but little decisions in life have a way of adding up to something much bigger in time. And this is one of the easiest ones you'll ever make. Just go to patriotmobile.com beck right now, 972-patriot use the promo code beck. Get a free month of service right now. Patriotmobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot. Promo code beck make the switch today. Patriot mobile.com promo code beck 10 seconds. Station ID. Okay, so we're at this fork of the road now. Let me give you two paths. First, Bernie Sanders. Washington takes stock in all of these companies, and then Washington runs a fund. And then Washington decides who benefits and when. And you get to hope that you're on the list and the citizen becomes the client and the state becomes the parent. And you, you just keep, keep getting smaller. Path 2. Path 2. You own your slice now. Maybe you take it as a dividend, a check. Maybe you take it every year. No agency, no strings, no form to fill out in triplicate. Or maybe you don't spend a dime of it. Maybe you pool it voluntarily with your family or your church or your community and you let it compound. Okay? You let it grow. You let the markets do the boring, beautiful thing they always do. Turn a little capital into a lot of it over time. So what are the. What's the difference between these two stories? Notice what nobody did in that second story? Nobody forced you. Nobody drafted you into somebody else's vision of the country. And that is the entire ball game. The collective says, we'll decide for you. But freedom says, no, you decide. The collective says, the government owns the future and part of it. And freedom says, no, you own the future. The collective says, trust us. Freedom says, trust yourself. Turning your data into a property right is going to be hard. Nobody has fully cracked this, this code. They don't know how to do it yet. Lawyers are going to get rich either way. But hard has never been an excuse to hand the harvest over to Washington and then have them call it generosity. The founders understood something that we keep forgetting here. The job of government is not to manage your life. It's to protect your right to go and create. You get that thing right, you protect property, you protect the person. And free people to build themselves, and everything changes. And that's not a theory. That's, that's, that's the idea that built the most prosperous nation that has ever existed on the planet and we can do it again. So as you start to see jobs being lost, you hear about these giant companies making billions and billions and trillions of dollars. And it's, it is based on your back, your personal property. I mean, do you have access to all of the information they have on you? They can predict you better than you can predict. They know what they're going, you're going to do before you know what you're going to do. And they can shape you. I want my personal property back. If they want access to it, they can buy it from me. But remember, none of this will come down to a fundamental or a tax or a 50 page bill that nobody will even read. It comes down to that one word, the first word that every two year old learns the world. That the word that built this country and scares every central planner like Bernie Sanders who has ever lived. And that word is mine. The government is saying, that's mine on your behalf. I say government, get the hell out of the way. That is mine. And I don't give you the right to take anything that is mine and then hold it for me. No, Bernie Sanders is, this is a dangerous idea that changes us fundamentally. Property rights. Get property rights correct on this and we will solve a ton of problems. And you know what, Jason and I were talking before the show and you know, I said they have all of our data and they are. I mean look this up. Jason, you should do a Glenn AI. I think I've done enough shows on it to where it could pull this. Where I've talked about the death of free will. You don't know if you had the idea or they gave you the idea because they know you so well. They have all your data points, So who's controlling whom. Which by the way, leads me to a little bit of history here. This is a letter from the White House signed by Lyndon Baines Johnson to the Governor of California, Edmund Brown in 1964, where Brown was saying, hey, we need some investment here because we, we need to do some high tech stuff. This is the letter that, this is the beginning of Silicon Valley. And he's talking about, yes, we've got existing federal programs, we're going to be doing some things in California, blah, blah, blah. This is the beginning of Silicon Valley. The United States government and the CIA in particular funded a lot of Silicon Valley. So again, you do own it. Your tax dollars funded a lot of Silicon Valley. Then we gave them all the information, which is strangely exactly what the CIA has wanted. The American people to do and give them forever. Can we stop giving the government more of our stuff? Can we start looking at our intellectual property, who we are, all of our data as mine? It's my property, period. Pay me for it. All right, if you're planning a summer vacation, I want you to keep something in mind. First of all, if you're going to a national park, the animals are real. It's not Disneyland. Or somebody else was gored by a buffalo in, in Yellowstone, what, Yesterday, day before. What a bunch of dope. Well, I'll talk about that here in a second. 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Ricky
Coming up, a tell all book about Glenn from one of his co hosts in the 90s before he went national. I read it. You cannot miss this later on the Glenn Beck program.
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Glenn Beck
Oh, every summer, man, I come up, I come up here to the mountain west and I see the news of somebody being gored by a bison. And I, I cheer for the bison. I really do. And because people go to Yellowstone and they just think, oh, look, it's a park, it's a zoo. Look, it's like Disneyland, except the animals are real, but they act like audio animatronics. They'll never hurt us. Oh, my gosh, you people are so stupid. So I got a rant on that because I feel it passionately. You might have to put up with me for just a couple of minutes on that, but I want to continue our conversation on what I was just saying because we got into the break and Jason, you know, talking to the insiders, and Ricky had some comments on it. This is such an important thing. The data. Who owns the data? And this all stems from a, a press conference that Bernie Sanders had yesterday where he wants the government to get in bed with these AI companies. For the love of little baby Jesus, hear me. Do not allow our government to get deeper in bed with these AI companies. Don't allow them to do it. These AI companies, I don't trust them at all. All at all. They have taken and built this entire system on your back. Then they're going to destroy your job. Now, this could be a really good thing, but when you have the best minds in the world saying you're going to have 50, 60% unemployment globally in the next 10 years, you better have a way to have people make money. Well, one of them is your data. I, I am. Jason, how was it? What was the question you had that got me into the fingerprints? Because I want to, I want to pick it up where you were thinking, because I think most people are think like this about how, what I was
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Jason
just talking about in the insider chat.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah. About how it's not how it's, you're not that unique. It's, it's, it's the same thing over and over and over again. You were talking about.
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Jason
Oh, so all new technologies appear like they're just improvements on past. You could call it intellectual property. What people thought, the inventions, they did, you know, their theories. And it's usually improved upon by some new technology. Is that not AI? I mean, we've willfully given over every single thing that they have now used to create AI. We've signed it away. Every time we use Google Search or Chrome or any other, you know, application, we've given it away freely. So now they have used that, improved upon that intelligence to allow us to use these tools. How is that any different?
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Glenn Beck
But now they are. But now they are. But now they are. Because it's not exactly stolen. We all went in this, but they had information that we did not have. Okay. Like for instance, when we traded Manhattan for beads, strings of beads, with the Native Americans, we didn't rip them off. That was a fair price to them. They thought they were ripping us off. They, they, they said, no man can own property. We don't own this property. The great God owns this property. So you want to buy it from us? Sure. How about you give us some of that stuff? They, they, they laughed at us. They. You can't do that. That wasn't part of their culture, okay? And that's what they asked for. And many times we paid the big prices. Later, we paid Big, big dollars. We bought Pennsylvania three times from three different tribes. Because one said, well, you just paid them. Well, they stole it from us, and so we paid them. And then the third group came in and said, but they stole it from us. And so we paid them. I mean, that is different. This is something where these people knew exactly what they were building. They knew it in the 80s or in the 90s, and they knew what they were when Google did it. Remember, Google didn't take advertising for a while. They were just a search engine for free. And we kept saying, well, why is it. Why is it free? Because you're the product. What they were getting from you was far more valuable. And I talked about it in the 90s. They are studying how the human brain works and beyond just the human brain. So they can create AI beyond the human brain. They will, then after they get that, they will look to your specific brain, okay? So you can build on all kinds of ideas. I am a. I'm a collection. You steal from me, you've stolen twice. At least twice. Okay? I am a collection of my grandfather, my father, Walt Disney, Orson Welles, Michael o'.
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Vinnie Penn
Shea.
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Glenn Beck
I'm missing Charlie Brown, all these people, Don Imus, all these people I used to listen to, they shaped me, but I'm none of them. I am my own unique fingerprint. I am different than them. Okay? So I observed them, and then I took what I thought was good and I adopted that into me, which makes me unique. What they're doing is they mapped us, okay? And to see how humans think, that's one thing. But now they're taking our data and they're manipulating us because they know specifically, do you remember the argument was it was all atomized, Right? Wasn't that the argument that all the data is atomized so you don't know who it is? It's not personal. It is personal. They know all of us. They know exactly how we think. Which leads you to, again, what I was saying earlier, the death of free will. When these companies are so good at manipulating data and they are motivated by either political motives, financial motives, just their own social motives, the algorithms search you out and go, what is the best way to get that person to do A, B or C? How do I get them to stand up and put a Black Lives Matter black box on their social media? How do I get them to do that? Well, was crude in the past, but now it is becoming so subtle that you don't know it. You think you're making a informed choice yourself, but are you or have you been manipulated so subtly by these companies that they are pushing you one way or another? It is the combination of the highest tech known to man to the point that most people don't even understand. It's magic to them. They don't even understand what is possible with AI or AGI. Okay. Have no idea. It's. It's the combination of that and propaganda. And then you mix the government with all of their social. One way or the other, right or left, all of their social programs, all of their evil schemes. In my opinion, lots of them are where they're just going to keep you down. They'll tell you. Look at, look at what happened with COVID Look at how govin. The government made money because of a public private partnership. They made money with these pharmaceutical companies. We showed you the evidence, Jason. Do you remember what the. What it was? It was. It was not a routing number, but it was the instructions, you know, in the deal that they made with Pfizer and others on how to send them the. The royalty shares for every vaccine that they made. We showed this on television. We had the documentation. Did you get any of that? Did you get a dime of that? Did you ever hear about any big advancement that we made on your behalf because of that? They hid that. Where'd that money go? Now you want to give Bernie Sanders 50% of these AI companies, which would give them a seat at the table, our government a seat at the table of these AI companies. Not. Not on your life. Never. Not on your life. You want to talk about power that is unimaginable, Power that you'd be giving to the United States government? No, no, no, no. I don't know. Is any of this making sense? Ricky?
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Ricky
Yeah. I also think it's interesting that Bernie Sanders, who has historically been very skeptical, putting it nicely, of big tech, is suddenly finding a way to get into bed with them in a way that makes him feel comfortable.
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Glenn Beck
Right, because 50%, you have a seat on the board of directors. Who is you?
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Ricky
Is it me detecting?
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Glenn Beck
No, it's Bernie Sanders or whoever the government appoints. You'll never see. You'll never. Those people will never answer to you. So it will be Bernie Sanders. Can you imagine how far in the rear view mirror we would be if we had politicians on the board of directors of these tech companies where you had a 50% vote and voice in those tech companies on where and what should be done? We will be the Soviet Union making the zill the worst car ever made overnight. There are so many things wrong with this plan. But he's right about property rights. He's right about the destruction of jobs. He's right. You know, there's. I was going to do a monologue tomorrow. Maybe I should do it today. I don't know. I was going to do a monologue on energy and these data centers. I saw a protest in Logan, Utah over the weekend about data centers. And I Actually, somebody in the car may have been my son. I think it was my son who was all excited, like, dad, these guys are absolutely right. I'm like, no, they're not, son. No, they're not. It feels right. It feels right. And they make good points, but their solution is not right. And that is the problem that we are going to be facing. All of these things are going to come at you screaming down the highway at a hundred miles an hour, and you're going to be like, oh, my gosh, what about our water? What about our electricity? I'm paying too much. What about my. What about my privacy? What about my job? All of these things are going to come screaming down the highway. And unless you know your principles, you're going to be on the wrong side because what the signs said, no, water is scarce. Water must be for people. First energy. Our energy prices are already too expensive. Those are absolutely valid concerns, and they have to be addressed. But the principle will tell you, you don't stop progress. You find a way to solve those problems, and you don't solve them. You say, great, you want that land? Here's what you have to do. I in. I have a. I have a no unless policy in my life. I can say no to any idea. Somebody can come up and say, hey, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now, listen to the idea. Okay? My answer is no, unless you do X, Y and Z. If you can solve these problems, if you can do these things, then I'm for it. Don't say no, say no unless. And that's what the protest on all of this stuff need to be about. No, no, no, no, Bernie. No unless it's about private property. That negates half of your idea, more than half of your idea. But it gets to the real issue that people are thinking, I'm being screwed here. I'm losing my job, and you've taken all of this stuff from me, and now I'm. You've left me with nothing and you've built it on my back. Okay? No, you're not going to do that unless you solve the private, private property. No, you're not going to build those data centers Unless you solve the electricity and the water problem and you are creating more than you're taking. Solve those, and I'm in it. Let's stop being against things. Let's be for our principles, because our principles will always lead the way out. All right, back in just a second. Let me tell you about American financing, man. I've got something to say about those dummies in Yellowstone. Got to squeeze it in. All right.
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Jason
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Glenn Beck
Do you really want to use that?
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Jason
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Glenn Beck
look, many Americans maybe are. You're one of them. Daily expenses are ending up on the credit card. I stood in a grocery store this weekend and I picked something up that I don't know what it was. Oh, my gosh. But it was like $4, $5. It might have been like, I don't know, a sprig of thyme or something. My son was going to cook Dinner. And he's like, I need these fresh herbs. And I'm like, okay, whatever. And I pick it up and it was like five bucks or six bucks. And I'm like, what? That's outrageous. And I immediately turned around and I thought I looked at everybody in the store because I'm in a small town of farmers and I'm like, how are these people buying any of this stuff in the store? This is outrageously expensive. Well, a lot of people are putting on their credit card and then what happens? And then the credit card rate goes up and now you're stuck. And you don't. I mean, look, American financing is here. They are designed to help you. If you have a home, you have equity in your home. And I know you don't want to get into, you know, getting rid of your mortgage because you most likely have a very good rate. But you need to pay off the high interest debt. They have a way, a surgical strike against that kind of debt. And it doesn't have a fluctuating rate. It's, you know, it's a smart equity loan, a fixed rate, predictable monthly payment. And you don't reset your mortgage. That's the best thing. Talk to a salary based consultant right now. They're experts who will help you save and not to sell more than you need and not to get rid of that, that really great mortgage rate that you have. Call them at 800-906-2440. Get out of debt. Get yourself some breathing room. 800-906-2440 or go to americanfinancing.net nmls182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for rates in the five starts at 6.799% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-906-2440 for details about credit costs and terms. Faith, family, A full work day. That's not fascist. That's just Tuesday. More Glenn Beck straight ahead. Well, I gotta tell you, today is the day to have the insider because the discussion just keeps continuing while we're in commercials. And, and if you have the ability to listen to the insider, you should. Today's a great, a great reason because the conversation on this is really, really important and taking us in all kinds of different directions. You join us glenn beck.com torch glenn beck.com torch. Thank you so much for listening. Hello America. You know, we've been fighting every single day. We push back against the lies, the censorship, the nonsense of the mainstream media that they're trying to feed you we work tirelessly to bring you the unfiltered truth because you deserve it. But to keep this fight going, we need you right now. Would you take a moment and rate and review the Glenn Beck podcast? Give us five stars and leave a comment. Because every single review helps us break through Big Tech's algorithm to reach more Americans who need to hear the truth. This isn't a podcast. This is a movement. And you're part of it, a big part of it. So if you believe in what we're doing, you want more people to wake up, help us push this podcast to the top rate, review, share. Together, we'll make a difference. And thanks for standing with us. Now, let's get to work. We're living in a time where it's really easy to forget what this country is actually about, how it came to be. And we talk about the founders like they just appeared fully formed out of history. But that's not how it happened. That's why I think young George Washington is so important right now. This is a film that takes you back before he was president, before the revolution was won, before George Washington was. Was George Washington that symbol? And it shows you the young man he really was. Not perfect, not polished, but somebody who is shaped by failures, hard decisions, and courage and by a sense that there was something bigger than himself at work. Great leaders are not created in comfort. They're forged when things are hard, when stepping forward cost you something. With the 250th anniversary of of America right around the corner, this a powerful way to market. Take your family, take your kids, your grandkids, and connect them to the story that started all of See Young Washington in theaters July 3rd. Tickets available now. Angel.com Young Washington.
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Vinnie Penn
Swipe the flame, Pass it on.
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Glenn Beck
Crank the game. The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Glenn Beck is on hello America from the Mountain west and the Standing Rock Ranch. This is the Glenn Beck Program. I want to talk to you about a few items in the news today. Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, that phone call that, you know, some people are very upset about, some people are celebrating. You know, let's just look at it for what it is. And I'm going to tie this into something that happened on the View yesterday. I'm not going to talk about the View, believe me, but it was about Graham Platner and it's important. Why is that happening? Why is he doing well? What's happening in California today? Do the Republicans even stand a chance in California? I don't know, but I want to talk to you about principles instead of politics, principles. Because once you learn your principles, once you know what they are, life all of a sudden becomes so easy to manage. And I think that's what we're all looking for, a way to manage our lives. So let me take you through a couple of these things and explain in just a second. First, let me tell you about our sponsor for 60 seconds, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Sometimes we read the word blessing so often that we forget what it really means. Blessing isn't something we receive. It's something we're called to share. You know, it's hard to bless yourself. I don't think you really can bless yourself. You know, you bless yourself by blessing someone else giving food or shelter or just love to somebody else. If God has given you peace, then can you bring peace of mind to somebody else? You've got a storehouse of it. This is one of the reasons why I really admire the work of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They help provide food and medical care, emergency assistance, security and other life saving support to vulnerable people all across Israel and the world. But more than that, they are also trying to help with peace of mind, you know, in the name, in the name of the shared bond between Christians and Jews, sometimes God blesses us so we can be a blessing to somebody else. And that might just be hope, a simple prayer, a few words that will lift the spirit of somebody facing uncertainty and isolation. This is when support of the Jewish people really matters. Go to prayifcj.org prayifcj.org submit your prayer today prayifcj.org all right, I want to get back to this Benjamin Netanyahu and Trump thing a little later on the program, but let me just cover it quickly here. So yesterday story came out that Benjamin Netanyahu got on the phone with Donald Trump and there was, there was a screaming match. And he just, you know, using all kinds of foul language and saying, Benjamin Netanyahu, you're a madman, crazy man, you're gonna stop it right now, blah, blah, blah. And so I'm really, I'm shocked by the reaction. I'm confused, I should say by the reaction. Some people are saying this was horrible, this was national security and that should never come out. And we need to find the leaker. I'll get to that in a second. And the other side is like, you know, finally, Donald Trump is standing up to Israel. Well, Donald Trump has always stood up to Israel. For the love of Pete, do you not know who he is now by. By now. So let me show you how knowing principles solve problems. What are Donald Trump's principles? And some people say he doesn't have any principles. He does. He has a few principles. He loves the American people. He loves America. Okay? We know that. And his principle is America first. You may not always agree with the way he gets there, but he is one of the first presidents that I've ever seen that I don't believe. He's making bad deals to enrich him and his family or his party or whatever. He's making the deal that he believes is right for the American people. That's one of his principles. The second principle that he has is negotiation. He is a negotiator. And you can find all of his strategies and his principles in the book the Art of the Deal. So let me talk to you. Bring those two things back to Benjamin Netanyahu. Benjamin Netanyahu gets on the phone. He's doing something President Trump doesn't like. He's in charge of the relationship, okay? And he takes Benjamin Netanyahu on. The reason why I know this is the way he always is, is because Donald Trump doesn't roll over for anyone. If he disagrees with you or he thinks you're hurting what he's trying to do in America, he's gonna take you on. I don't care who you are, Benjamin Netanyahu or not. So anybody who says that Benjamin Netanyahu is controlling Donald Trump, it's not true. If you don't like what Donald Trump did because he looked at the facts that Israel was giving, and he was like, okay, then I have to do this, then your problem is with him, not. Not Benjamin Netanyahu. Okay? Anybody who says this was leaked, this was not leaked, this was not leaked. This, they're not looking for the leaker today. I can guarantee you this is strategy. This is part of the art of the deal. This kind of goes back to, you know, the other day, he said, and I don't really don't care about. I'm kind of bored by the negotiation. Why the hell would you say that? Because he's not sending the message to the American people like we think he is. He's sending it to the people in Iran. I'm kind of bored with you. I don't really care that much. Why is he saying that? Because he knows they think that he's panicked about you and gas prices, so he's got to rub this off as like. That doesn't even bother me. I Don't even. You know, I haven't even thought about the gas prices. And I'm kind of bored with this whole thing. I've been working on other things. He's got to send that message to them, not to you. So once you understand negotiation and his principles, things begin to become a little easier to understand. Let me show you. Let me show you. There's a story that will make your head explode. From Nantucket. It's a story of just great ignorance. From Nantucket. For 25 years, there was a church in Nantucket that read the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, aloud at their service every 4th of July. This year, the leaders canceled this tradition. And their reason was because the Founding. I'm quoting the founding documents were bound up with the ideas of whiteness and has been applied unequally across American history. Okay, Ignorance. Let me begin at the beginning. Let's begin on what is true. The Church is right about one thing, and it's not a small thing. The promises of America were never applied equally. Never. Slavery was written into law. The south with Jim Crow followed emancipation. The Chinese Exclusion act of 1882 shut the door. By race, the women live for generations without. You know, after the Founders died, without the vote, treaties with native nations were signed and broken over and over again. Any account of the Founding and our country's history that waves these facts away is not patriotism. It's amnesia and stupidity. Now, with that said, concede the whole indictment here. And you're left with the one question the church never asked. When America. When Americans tried to end those injustices, what tool did they reach for? Did they get it a philosophy imported from Europe? Well, they didn't reach for the rejection of the Founding, I'll tell you that. They reached for the founding itself. In 1852, Frederick Douglass stood before an audience in Rochester and was asked what the fourth of July meant to the slave. His answer was merciless. You should read it. He called the celebration a sham and the nation its boasted liberty was an insult to the man in chains. Okay, that's where I'm sure the church would like to leave that. Read the whole speech and you'll find what the church seems to have forgotten. Douglas didn't attack the Declaration. He attacked America and Americans for betraying it. He called the principles in the the Declaration of Independence the saving ones. He was trying to hold the country to those principles. The abolitionists who damned the Constitution as a covenant with slavery. Douglass argued the exact opposite. He read it honestly. He said, this is a charter of liberty. A document the enslaved can claim as their own. Four years earlier, 1848, women who gathered in Seneca Falls, they didn't write a manifesto against the Declaration of Independent. They rewrote it. We hold these truths to be self evident. Their Declaration of Sentiments begins that all men and women are created equal. They didn't discard Jefferson's words. They finished his words. Gettysburg, Lincoln. He didn't describe a nation that was founded on contradiction. He described one quote dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. And then he asked the living to be worthy of that. There is a private fragment that he once likened the the Declaration to an apple of gold and the Constitution and the Union to a frame of silver that was built around it. He said, yes, the frame of silver is precious, but it only exists to protect the apple, not the other way around. Martin Luther King, he stood at the Lincoln Memorial. He didn't call the Declaration a lie. He called it a promissory note. A check the nation had written to every citizen and then stamped insufficient funds for its black citizens. He said he had come to Washington to cash the check. He didn't tear up the promise. He wanted the promise to be honored. Do you see the pattern? Every single time we've had massive problems, people who wanted to fix the problem stood on the documents, not against the documents. And that distinction changes everything. It shows you what the real goal is. It's worth getting the philosophy right because the Church has blurred it and so do most of the documents defenders. The three documents don't say the same thing and they don't ground rights in the same place. The Declaration makes the moral claim. Rights don't come from kings, the Congress, Parliament or anybody else or majorities. They are unalienable and they're endowed by a creator. Which is to say they exist long before any government could stand above it. Read that. Creator as God as nature, or, you know, plain dignity of a human nature. However. Okay, but the radical move is identical. No matter how you read that. The state doesn't grant your rights, so the state can't rightfully revoke them. Now, the Constitution makes the structural claim. Notice the Constitution doesn't invoke God. It forbids any religious test for office. This is only a machine for restraining power. Enumerated authorities, divided branches checks against every faction, including the majority. That's what the Constitution does. The Constitution. The Declaration says you have rights as an individual. They come from God. Then the Constitution says we have to protect the rights of the individual and we're restraining ourselves as A government. And then the Bill of Rights comes in to the defensive claim. It. Its grammar gives its purpose away. Congress shall make no law. It doesn't hand rights down. It fences government off from the rights of the people that they already hold. The ninth Amendment says it really plainly. The rights listed are not the only ones that are mentioned here. You retain all kinds of rights that aren't listed. Some founders even feared that writing the Bill of Rights might wrongly imply the government was their source. But here's where honesty makes the argument stronger, not weaker. Be honest. The Constitution did not arrive cleanly. It didn't. While some of it is misunderstood. For instance, it counted people enslaved as three fifths of a person, not to inflate the power, but to deflate the power of those who held them. So it was trying, but it didn't do it. It didn't abolish it. It abolished the import of slaves, made it illegal. The Northwest Ordinance came in and made the introduction of slavery into new states illegal, but it didn't abolish it. So it's tainted. It is, but it shielded the slave trade for 20 years. Later on, you know, the one thing that ignited the Civil War, it forced free slaves of free states to return slaves that had escaped and were free men. Now, the framers were uneasy with this. They were honestly. In this sense, they were progressives. They were trying to move without a war and a revolution, a second revolution. They were trying to end this by convincing people that we need to end this. But it wasn't ending. And it. Okay. And it just kept going on and on and on, and they evaded words like slavery, bearing it in euphemisms, you know, the knowledge that that property in men had no place in charter or liberty. Okay, so the critics are not wrong. The documents are compromised. But what they miss is that it was built to be corrected. And then they even were humble enough to say, we don't have all of the answers here. And so they provided a standard for correcting it. It. It's called the amendment process. And when the reckoning came, Americans didn't throw the document away. They amended it, just like our founders said, look, you're going to be smarter than us, you're going to be wiser than us. You are going to have new ideas. You've got. This is why we're going to make this thing living. You can amend it. Amendment. You don't reinterpret it. That's not a living Constitution. That's a bastardization of it. It's living because you can amendment. The 13th ended slavery. The 14th guaranteed equal protection. The 15 secured the votes using the founder's own machinery, their own creed, to repair the founder's own sin. And this is what the churches miss entirely. This one in Nantucket. How do you call yourself a church if you don't understand this? Really, honestly, the documents didn't cause the injustice. I feel bad for you because you're living in self imposed ignorance. You can really, you can find this. This is really easy. Slavery was exposed slave. The documents were meant to cure the disease. They were the standards by which the disease was named and the instrument by which it was cut out. And if you don't have a fixed standard, well, then your standard is whoever holds power today. And that's very dangerous. We need to learn our own documents. We need to know them. Because if we don't, truth becomes factional and justice becomes selective and history becomes a weapon. And that's where we are right now. That's why the church in Nantucket, it makes them smaller by refusing to read the words. The words don't need reading, okay? We need to read the words. Because the Declaration gave us the promise, the Constitution built the structure and the Bill of Rights built the guardrails. Read them. Teach them, defend them, live by them. It's the only way they'll ever belong to anyone at all. And those words belong to all of us. And they are words of freedom, not oppression. Back in just a second. Let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. It's real estate agents. I trust. You know, nobody would hire a surgeon the way some people hire a real estate agent. You know, I don't know. I had a good person. I needed a heart surgeon and a friend of mine said he was pretty good, did something for them or you saw their face on a billboard. You know, you'd want to know everything about them. 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Ricky
up, did the ladies on the View actually denounce Graham's partner? Glenn says not so fast and reveals the three letter word killing the Republic. Next,
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Glenn Beck
I want to talk to you, continue to talk to you about the, the principles that we all hold. And when you know the principles and you know a few, a few things, you just have to remember life becomes so easy. Let me give you an example here. Yesterday, Sunny Hostin from the View said something that jumped out to me today as I was preparing the show because it demonstrates a very clear principle. Okay. She started to attack Graham Platner, the, the guy who was the Nazi tattoo, whatever, that guy. She began to attack him. And it's not what she said on the attack, it's what she actually ended up confessing.
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Ricky
Listen, I am conflicted.
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Unknown Female Guest 1
They asked Cory Booker how he felt about this because I think all the allegations are true. The sexting with other women while married is definitely true because his wife is the person that gave the messages to his campaign to give them a heads up. So the, in fact, now that he's saying that, I think she said that he had that he, well, she told them campaign. We haven't seen messages, but she disclosed it, right?
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Unknown Male Guest 1
Yeah.
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Unknown Female Guest 1
So why would she lie about that? So that part is true. He's also made racist remarks about against African Americans. So he's a cheater. He's an anti Semite because the fact that he had that tattoo for 20 years and didn't know what it was is a lie. So he's a liar, a racist, an anti Semite, homophobe. He's a homophobe. So he's all the things and character does matter. But we have someone that has almost unbridled power in the White House at this point. There is no, there are no checks and balances. And the only way that we can maybe bring a bit of our democracy back is by having a Congress that functions and that has these checks and balances. And I do think one of the only ways is to win that seat in Maine. And so I, like Cory Booker said, this is a concern, but our country is in grave.
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Ricky
There are other paths.
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Glenn Beck
Okay, I want you to write something down and I just want you to post this in front of you. Okay? Everything before you say but is what you actually believe. Everything after is what you're willing to trade it for. Okay, let me show you. He's a liar, he's a racist, he's an anti Semite, he's a homophobe, he's all of those things. And then to her credit, she uses the right words. Character does matter. But then the most dangerous word in American politics or human existence. But we need the seat, we need the checks and balances. And in Maine, this is how we get power back. So let me say it again. Everything you say before, but. Everything she just said before is what she actually believes. Everything after the but is what she's willing to trade it for. Okay? And everything after a but is where republics go to die. I believe in freedom of speech, but hate speech. So we have to. I believe in freedom of speech, but Covid, we have to. Silence. Okay, here's the formula. What you actually believe. Then introduce a pro but. Introduce a big, big problem. And then show how you're going to sell out all your beliefs. Okay. I believe in the free market system, but I had to violate the free market to save the free market. That doesn't make any sense. I believe in the Constitution, but times are so tough, we have to do some other. No, no. Stop with buts. What is it you believe? Okay, sit with. What she actually told you, she said. She didn't say. I'm not sure about his record. She said he is by her own account one of the worst human beings she described. Couldn't describe a liar, a rac, a bigot, cruel, anti Semite, and in the very same breath, she says, I'm gonna. We need to hand him power. Think about how insane that is. You don't lock the doors at night and then hand the keys to the man you just described as the reason you lock your doors at night. If you truly believe someone is all those things, then there is exactly one honest conclusion. Keep him as far away from power as humanly possible. The only way to get to but the only way is if power has quietly become more important than your principles. That if power actually is not what you believe, or power is not what you believe in, or is what you believe in and not the things you said before the button. Because that makes more sense. Look, we need power. We need power, and he's all of these things. So we will elect him. That's what she actually said. And you know, most people don't even notice this. Let me make this really, really simple here. You and your wife need a babysitter, and you call me up and you say, listen, this guy lies about everything. He's a bigot, he's cruel. His character is a disaster. I don't even know. I mean, he could be sketchy with kids. What would you say if I called you up and said that? What would you say to me, Glenn, what the hell is wrong with you? Why would you let him anywhere near your kids and imagine I said, well, I agree with you. He's all those things, but Tanya and I just really need a night out. You would think I'm out of my mind because character is not a footnote on the resume with your children. Character is the resume. It's not the side issue. It is the issue. And it doesn't stop being the issue just because we traded the nursery for the Capitol. I have diagnosed disease here in this chair for so long and tell you, you know, the things that we should be standing up against. I am trying really hard to show you the things we should stand up and be for. Because I think if you want to save the Republic, this is what we need to do. We need to define, not what we're against. We got it. We need to articulate what we're for and fight for those things. Otherwise we're going to get stuck in the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all those things are important, but I'm for leaders that I want to be proud to explain to my 10 year old kid. Yeah, not, not, yeah, he's a jerk, but he's our jerk. I want to be proud of them, full stop. That's going to be hard. Gonna be really hard. I'm for the boring virtues like telling the truth when a lie would win. Keeping your word when breaking it would be easier. Restraint when you have the power to show no restraint. And for the kind of citizen who would rather lose an election with a clear conscience than win one, rather than launder their soul. Here's what cynics never understand. Character was never the obstacle to the mission. Character is the mission. The whole point of self government is to be the kind of people who can be trusted to govern themselves. So if we start saying, I believe these things, but I'm going to do this, we'll never be the people that can govern ourselves. We can't. You can't, you can't. You'll never get that back. Okay. The moment we decide, we can skip the part that has principles. If the stakes are high enough, then we've already lost the only thing worth winning. I am not lecturing to the Democrats alone. We have a very long way to go on this. But our founders understood this better than we do. John Adams said the Constitution is made for a moral and religious people wholly inadequate for a government of any other. He wasn't saying everybody join a church. He was telling us something really, really super useful. The machinery only works if the people running it have brakes on. On the inside. I want you to think of our country, of the Republic, like a ship. We have checks and balances, right? What is that? Checks and balances are the rudder. The checks and balances help steer. Okay? But character is the anchor and it holds you in place when the storm wants to throw you on the rocks. You lose the rudder and you'll drift. You lose the anchor and you're a danger to everybody on board. She wants to fix the rudder by hiring a man who swears. She swears has no anchor. You can't reform a system by handing it to somebody that you've just described as the reason the whole system has failed. But once you let but win, watch what happens. Because it never stops at one trade. Never. Today it's ease awful, but we need the seat. Then truth becomes negotiable. Justice becomes negotiable. The difference between an ally and a decent human being become negotiable. You start. You start out saying we have to do this to save democracy. But you end up discovering that you spend every democratic virtue you had and the receipts still in your pocket. And history is a. Has a long list of people who said but, but, but, but, but with total sincerity. Okay? The French revolutionaries. They insisted the cause was too pure for the methods to matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. This is a pure. We got to get rid of the king. Look at what's happening. What happened? The guillotine. Because they had a but. Lenin started the idea, hired Stalin. Because I believe in all of these things. I believe in the people. But there's some bad people. Millions dead. Very respectable men. In 1933, in Germany, they figured, we'll put a really dangerous Nazi in as chancellor, okay? Because he's going to be easy to pull strings on, okay? We can craft him, we can control him. Because we need to have this power. If we don't have this power, the whole thing could fall apart. Okay, so guess which one met the, you know, Mr. Hitler's bullet in the head? The people who made that compromise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know about him. But that's the whole point. If you think the emergency is so big that just in this one case, character can wait. Character never waits. It just leaves. So here's a question I want you to ask yourself. I want you to start listening to people who say what they believe and then the but and follow it with what they'll sell their beliefs for. Okay? And pay particular attention to you. But the other question is the difference between a healthy republic and a sick republic. A healthy republic says, is this person worthy of power? A sick republic says, can this person get us power? That's the entire ball game in two sentences. That's it. The View asked the question. They didn't even flinch, and the audience cheered. I'm asking you to be the kind of person and to demand the kind of leaders who can only ever bring themselves to ask the first one, be the anchor. Hold the line on boring virtues when the world is screaming that this time, this, just this once, that those virtues won't count. Throw out the Declaration. Throw out the Bill of Rights. Throw out. You can't do that. Because the day you stop counting, the day you stop counting and counting on those principles as an anchor is the day you'll find out that the rudder and the anchor were the only thing really holding the ship together. And there is no but big enough to bring those back once they're lost. Back in a minute. Sponsor this half hour is American Giant. You know, dads are hard to shop for. You know, they don't want anything. Or at least, you know, that's what they. They say, you know. What do you want for Father's Day, Dad? I don't know. I. You know, I don't really need anything. You know, it's just. That's super helpful, dad. Thank you for that conversation. That helps me out an awful lot. But they. They don't, you know, they. They don't need that gadget that will end up in a drawer by July. They, you know, they don't need something trendy that will be forgotten by August. They certainly don't need a new tie. And that's why I think American Giant makes great Father's Day gifts. They make premium clothing right here in the United States with focus on quality, durability, craftsmanship, and is becoming harder and harder to find in America. These are the kind of clothes that feel substantial the moment you put them on without a substantial price tag. These are the clothes that are made to be worn for years. The sort of things dad respects. Quality, American quality. This Father's Day at american-giant.com Glenn. You use my name, Glenn, and you're gonna get 20% off your first purchase. It's american-giant.com glenn. You show up, you work hard, you speak the truth. Even when it ain't popular, that still counts for something. Back. We'll be right back. So, you know, Jason, I are just talking with the insiders. Graham Platner is who we were talking about here. And, you know, it's. You know, what you believe, then you put in the. But name the problem, and then you'll end up with everything but what you believe, okay? It's what you will sell your beliefs out for because of the problem. That's what's happening in Maine. That is what was happening with the View. They said, he's horrible, he's a racist, he's a bigot, he's a homophobe, he's an anti Semite, he's cruel. But we need to win this election, okay? People are thinking that he's going to fall apart because of the sex scandals, I guess, with his wife. That's not going to happen. It's not going to happen unless you find out something like he was, you know, Jeffrey Epstein kind of guy. But that doesn't matter. That is a lack of principles, okay? He has a lack of character when it comes to honesty with his family. Platner's problem is bigger than a lack. It's the principles he does hold. An anti Semite flirting with Nazism, you know, a homophobe. The things that he does believe are the problems. Those are what everybody should be talking about, not the sex scandal. That is a lack of character. But maybe we should spend a few more minutes looking at what his character actually is. What are the things he actually thinks? The leaves, those are the real problem. We're just a few months out from the midterms now. And, you know, I know the results from that might be not. Maybe not what we want. Could be. I mean, it is really, to me, this is a coin toss at this point. It seemed really bad, and now it's. It might seem like maybe the country wakes up through some of this stuff. I don't know. It's important to realize that change can happen and it can happen for the better. And that kind of change comes from you and me. If you are in a fight against leftism and you want the Republic, you want the Constitution and the Declaration to rule supreme, then we have to do everything we can. And one of those things you can do is change your mobile phone carrier. These giant mobile phone companies, they are giving all kinds of money to causes that you would never, ever give to. Patriot Mobile has dependable nationwide coverage so you can access any of the three major networks without giving all that money so they can give it to leftist causes. Go to patriotmobile.com beck or call 972 Patriot. Make sure you use the promo code Beck. You get a free month of service. Make the switch today.
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Vinnie Penn
Pass it on.
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Glenn Beck
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Ricky
I am quoting from the LA Times, not really known for being a conservative rag. Here is the headline. The mystery behind Becerra leapfrogging over his rivals in the California Governor's race. Just a few months ago he was at 5% in the polls and now he's leading. And remember, this is a jungle primary. So it's whoever of all the candidates leads the top two, then goes on to the race in November. Here's another quote that's so both his loyal supporters and well financed critics have a hard time explaining his rapid ascent with theories ranging from outright luck to a nefarious social media push. This is from the LA Times. A lot of people also may remember this is the same baby bully. I say that when he was doing an interview with a KTLA reporter, he immediately started the interview by saying, this is not going to be a gotcha interview. Right. Because you know why? He's used to being treated with kid gloves when he was a Covid tyrant under Biden.
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Glenn Beck
Wow. You know, coming from the LA Times, that says something. Because if it was coming from, you know, a conservative source or something, I would be more apt to believe. Look, he's kind of a Biden guy and I know that sounds bad to a lot of people, but in California, maybe Democrats like that he's kind of a know nothing, you know, did really nothing. Forget about COVID because they liked Covid and just not the crazy Tom Steyer. And so maybe they were just like, you know what, I'm just going to go, he's almost the, the unknown candidate. It, in a way, you know what I mean? You know him. But it's like what people buy when they bought Biden. They bought Biden because they thought he would be harmless. And so they're like, yeah, maybe we'll just have somebody in there who's just a, you know, a harmless kind of guy. So maybe. But I mean that coming from the LA Times does not seem good, especially when you find out that the race is not. We're not going to know tonight. We're not going to know tonight because they also have mail in ballots, and those are going to be coming in for several days. And so they'll just keep counting. They'll just keep counting.
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Ricky
Good news is Steve Hilton has a chance to advance to November.
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Glenn Beck
Becerra is 25%. Nobody's going to get 50%. Becerra has 20 in the polls. He leads 23 to 25%. Steve Hilton, the Republican who I love, 22%. And then Tom Steyer is in third and he has 15 to 20%. So, I mean, Hilton could be. I mean, it's going to come down to two. Two candidates. And it could be Steve Hilton being this the second candidate, which would be remarkable. Remarkable. Tell me about the mayor's race in Los Angeles, Spencer Pratt. They haven't been able to nail him down, but some polls show him leading Karen Bass.
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Ricky
Yeah, you've got Karen Bass, Neitha Raman and Spencer Pratt. And he's. They're showing him about in third place or tied with Nissa. You probably have a lot of people who are being pulled and not answering honestly because, oh, my gosh, it's for Bowdoin to be a Republican and LA and to vote Republican. This would amazing. Although Spencer has said I'm not a party, I. I have no labels. I just want to fix the city. So this, I mean, you've got creators, like the California liberal Entourage creator who were. Who are even coming out, doubling down.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, I have a clip of Doug Ellen as the person she was just talking about. He is the producer of Entourage. Okay. So, you know, he's not. He's not coming, you know, from the Reagan Library. Listen to what he said about the. The situation in LA.
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Unknown Male Guest 1
Hey, LA Times gaslighters. It's weird. One of 15 cameras that I now have at this house. Two German Shepherds, three legal guns five years ago, didn't lock a door here. But you know what happened? Two animals invaded my house. And no, I'm not racist because they were wearing masks. I don't know if they were white. I don't know if they were Jewish. I don't know if they were rabbis. I know they were animals because they invaded my house. I know. I don't care what their excuses are.
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Glenn Beck
Like, a lot of you care.
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Unknown Male Guest 1
I know Invaders of home should get 20 years, but I'm not paranoid. So I don't believe your bull, the stats and the crime. Because everyone in my neighborhood has got the same problem. They're all putting cameras and hiring security guards because we're all getting broken into. It's not made up. It's not false. And this city has collapsed in the last five years. There is no denying it. Unless you have an agenda, and I don't know what that is, but you say, oh, Spencer Pratt has no experience, so how can we possibly think about this? What experience did Karen Bass have? Rick Caruso, who we know can build things, who we know can fix problems, when you made sure he couldn't win. So right now you're putting people in the same position that you did with Trump, Who I did not vote for, by the way. You put him in by making sure we had no options. Okay? And that's where we are, in la. And we want to fix this place because we don't want to be forced out. I'm one of the people who made this city look great. I did it for years. I glorified it. I meet people all the time that moved here because the show that I created and they hated here now hate.
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Glenn Beck
Listen to what he's saying. Let me. Let me talk to you about California here for a second. I grew up in the West Coast. I grew up in. Don't hold this against me. I grew up in the Seattle area, Mount Vernon, Washington, little teeny town north of Seattle. And. And all I ever wanted to do my whole life growing up was live in California. Because just saying the name California used to mean something. You know, for most of the world, California was the idyllic America. It was sunshine and possibility. It was orange groves, beaches, beautiful women. It was Hollywood, later, Silicon Valley, aerospace, farming, music, the Eagles, technology, imagination, Disney. I mean, if America was the land of opportunity, California was the world's postcard. Okay? People crossed oceans to get here. And not because California was easy, but because California represented something. The belief that tomorrow could be better than today. The belief that a person with a dream can build something out of. Really out of nothing. The belief that hard work still mattered, but now look at it. Would you live there? Entire communities burned to the ground. Insurance companies fleeing, Families gone. Businesses shut down, relocating. Taxes rising, Housing costs explode. Billions disappear. Your tax dollars to. For what? Fraud and projects that never seem to get finished. I mean, there's a high speed rail project that's supposed to connect California. It's a monument to government promises and government waste. And people are looking around going, who did this? Who did this? How'd this happen? Well, here's a question. How could it be the Republicans? They haven't held meaningful statewide power in decades. How could they be responsible for what happened over decades? And I'm not saying vote for a Republican. Because the Republicans suck a lot too. They're not perfect Republicans. Some of them are corrupt, Some of them are foolish. Some are just bad guys. Some of them are progressive. Some of them are just weak. Human nature doesn't change when you know, you change your party affiliation. But at some point we stop talking about parties and start talking about reason. Shouldn't that be part of the conversation at some point? Don't you have to examine the results here of what you're living in? I mean, if I hire a contractor for 30 years to come in and fix my roof, and my roof constantly leaks and I keep hiring him to come back and he fixes it, but then he keeps blaming the weather. At some point I start looking at the contractor and say, you know, this doesn't make any sense, dude. And I start looking for another contractor. California needs a new contractor. But the problem is the people there vote based on stories. And California knows how to tell stories. That is Storyville, usa. It is the state that perfected image making. The state that taught the world how to manufacture perception. The state where cameras turn ordinary people into stars, where marketing make fantasy feel real, where a good script can temporarily overcome reality. That's California. But California got news for you. Reality always wins. Reality doesn't have a publicist. Reality doesn't care about your narrative. Reality keeps score and it's brutal. Like he just said, he's got score. You know what? I never locked my door. Now I've got three German shepherds and police watching my house. You can tell people crime is down, but they know what they see. They know what they're living in. They know what is happening to their neighbors in their neighborhood. You can tell people all you want housing is affordable, but they know what they pay. You can tell people government's working, but they know how long it takes for a choo choo train to be built. You can tell people everything is fine, but reality sends the bill every time. The bill always comes due. But that's again where people like Steve Hilton or Spencer Pratt come in. People who love the state, know what it should be and believe a responsible government has to happen. And responsible people can't give up on California. Trust me, man, I would love to give up in California. It's really tempting. I am not paying for all their mistakes. I am not paying for the thing for that rail when that, when that state goes broke. I'm not bailing you out. I'll be against that every step of the way. I don't want to bail California. You made the decision you knowingly, we all said you can't afford, afford this. And man, I want you to feel the consequence of bad decisions because pain is seemingly the only teacher left. And so it's tempting to go, you know, fine, just keep doing what you're doing, just keep voting. But California matters too much. It matters way too much. The people of California matter. The farmlands matter. The storytellers matter. The future matters. California is still the home to a lot of dreamers, home to, you know, people who are innovating every day, home to builders, still home to millions of decent people just trying to raise their family and live good lives. And you can't abandon them. And you can't abandon the place the world used to look for, for hope. Really, honestly, you fight for it and you're patient and you fight peacefully, but you're relentless. I hope the Republicans learn a lesson. I hope they've learned a lesson. And these are not the candidates that are happening in California right now, but all these wishy washy mamby pamby do nothing Republicans, these politicians that have been around us forever. We're done with you. We're done with you. I mean, look at what's happening in Maine. What does that tell you? That, that Susan Collins can't win against a guy who even his own party says, yeah, I know, he's a Nazi and an anti Semite. How is that happening? Why wouldn't good liberals go to Susan Collins? She doesn't vote with the President. Most times she doesn't vote for the president. Couple of reasons. One, they buy the storyline. They buy that all Republicans are bad and evil and she's just part of it. Trump bad, blah, blah, blah. The other thing is she doesn't stand for anything. She, she's, she's, she's neither hot nor cold. She's lukewarm. Spit it out. I don't need it. I don't want it. Our job is to keep showing up at places that, you know, have problems, keep knocking on doors, keep making the case, keep treating people with respect, keep listening, keep solving problems, keep proving our ideas work. And when they laugh at us, fine. Smile. When they mock, smile. Call your name, smile. Then go help somebody. Because eventually reality becomes impossible to ignore. Eventually, people begin to look for answers. They wonder, why are those people happy or successful? And when that day comes, they're not going to care about slogans. They won't care about labels, they won't care about party talking points. Because all of those things will have been discredited on their side as well. They just will care about results. The future of California is not going to be decided by Republicans versus Democrats. It's going to be decided by reality versus fantasy, results versus excuses, by people willing to tell the truth versus the people willing just to sell another story. California is a place that once showed the world what was possible. And I still think it can. But first, Californians have to remember something that built every great society in history. Dreams matter. Visions matter. Stories matter. But eventually you have to wake up in the morning, look at the evidence, look at yourself in the mirror, see what you're living in, and see if the story you've been told or been telling yourself matches the reality you're living in. And when enough people do that, everything in California will change. Back in a minute. 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Ricky
So Glenn.
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Glenn Beck
I used a guy I used to work with. Jason. You should come in on this. A guy I used to work with, Vinnie Penn.
- [106:21]
Ricky
I cannot wait.
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Glenn Beck
He was a. A show partner of mine back in the morning show days in the 90s. He was a rough living kind of guy. He was. We were polar. It was like the odd couple in many ways. And he has written a book called what is it?
- [106:47]
Ricky
A Tale of two talk show hosts, available now on Amazon.
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Glenn Beck
Yeah, and he called me up and he said, hey, I'm writing this book, and it's, you know, it's got a lot of you in it. And I'm like, what? And he's like, it's a tale of two talk show hosts. And I. And I said, that's okay, Vinny. Do whatever you want. And he said, okay. And then I read it and I realize the two talk show hosts are my. I guess me. Both of them are me. The other one's not him. It's both me. So this is an unauthorized biography of me of a 3. A very short 3 year period in my life. And it's. I don't know how to feel about it. I don't know.
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Ricky
I have lots of feelings about it. When Glenn said that Jason and I should read this book before Vinnie comes on, I'm like, oh, my gosh.
- [107:43]
Vinnie Penn
Okay.
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Ricky
I'm just. I don't know if I have time for this. So I'm just gonna quickly search Glenn's name in the book. It comes up in every single page. This is a biography on Glenn or not a biography. And this is how you sell books. So now I know the model. Thank you, Vinnie Pygmy. Yeah. Yeah, I've been with Glenn for six
- [107:59]
Glenn Beck
and a half years.
- [108:00]
Ricky
Let's get her done.
- [108:02]
Glenn Beck
I read it and I was ashamed of myself. I read it and I'm like, oh, that makes me. That doesn't make me look good. And everybody else that read it was like, oh, dude, that is so. You haven't changed at all. That's you. Vinnie Pin joins me next.
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Vinnie Penn
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Ricky
Vinnie Penn and his tell all book about Glenn Beck is next on the Glenn Beck Program.
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Glenn Beck
I would ask you to indulge me here just for a few, few minutes. Bring out an old friend and indulge me. This is a little inside baseball and some of it is a little embarrassing, quite honestly. Vinnie Penn is a guy, he's a Connecticut based radio broadcaster. He's an author. He does a talk show in Connecticut on iHeartradio. Also up in Boston. He has worked with Howard Stern, which I will get into if he decides to embarrass me. But he has written from Circus magazine to Maxim, Cracked parent, you know, VH1, best week ever. He's done a lot of, he's done a lot of stuff. And I met him in the 90s and he was just a miserable failure and, and started to work with him and we became very good friends for a very long time. And he called me and said, glenn, I'm writing a book about, you know, radio in the 90s when we were together, blah, blah, blah. And the name of it is the Tale of Two Talk Shows. Talk Show Hosts. Tale of Two Talk Show Hosts. And I thought, wait a minute. Okay, that's cool. But then as I read the book, I realized this isn't really about him. This isn't about him. It's not two. It's my split personality, I think is how he would describe it. Vinnie, welcome to the program.
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Vinnie Penn
Yeah, that's excellent. That's, you know, I've been struggling for weeks on my show on how to describe it. That's it. The two talk show hosts. Are you. Because you were doing a talk show on a top 40 station in the 90s and I had no idea you were, but you were.
- [111:58]
Glenn Beck
So I learned a lot.
- [112:00]
Vinnie Penn
Doing one either. I don't think you knew I did either.
- [112:03]
Glenn Beck
No, I, I did. I knew I was breaking on the rule. I knew where I was going to go. But, but, but Vinnie, you know, I learned a few things and I, I had forgotten just how clueless I used to be and probably still am. But I also didn't realize how Many people around me were just stabbing me in the back and just like my enemy. I had. No. I really didn't know that. And I also didn't know that I was pretty. Because of my cluelessness, I was pretty insensitive to a lot of people. That's what I got from the book. I don't.
- [112:35]
Vinnie Penn
No, no, it. Was that your takeaway? No, not at all.
- [112:37]
Glenn Beck
That was my takeaway.
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Vinnie Penn
I wouldn't say that second half is. Is accurate at all. You're very. You were overly sensitive, really, Which I would imagine everyone there can attest to as well. You can be overly sensitive, while at the same time you have the ability, you know, to call it. You know, call it like it is. But as for those other people, it took me a while to adjust to the fact that. And to even realize, oh, you're all kind of. They would drag me into the. Into these secret meetings and say, you know, you let Glenn go on this morning for, like, 10 minutes about being pro life. And I'm. And I'm like, I let him. It's the Glenn Beck program. And they're like, you gotta grab the wheel and make a joke. And I'd be like. During his pro life segment on the. On the show. So it took me a few months to realize, oh, you're not really a fan of what he's doing in there. But I loved what you were doing in there, and I never exacted that again.
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Glenn Beck
So you said one of my favorite lines in the book. You said, I was just fine doing what we were doing because this was all new to you. It was really old. I Love Top 40 radio was really old, and it was all new to you. And we had a blast doing things. I just couldn't do it anymore. And I knew exactly where I wanted to go. And you said, this is a quote. I was just fine doing what we were doing day in and day out for the rest of my days. This was more than enough for me, but not for Beck. I'd soon learned nothing was ever enough for Becky. Such are the markings of either a madman or millionaires. So which am I? Because I will tell you what the staff said after that. What?
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Vinnie Penn
Both.
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Unknown Male Guest 1
Both.
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Vinnie Penn
Clearly both. I would imagine Ricky would echo that sentiment. Surely I can speak for Stu. I'm not a madman.
- [114:32]
Glenn Beck
I know exactly what I'm doing.
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Vinnie Penn
Mad with genius. And, you know, I think that. Although I will say, and it's also in the book, when you began struggling with the genre, because you were talking about the ministry for a while, and I'm like, I can't. You know, I kept trying to rein you in, and, like, do you realize how great we've got it? Like, this is a fun gig. We have fun every day. You had this new romance. She would ultimately become your wife, this great chapter in your life, wonderful family. And I couldn't get you to see how great we had it. And you're like, you know, maybe it's talk radio that I need to be doing. And I'm like, oh, yeah, because that's really cool, you know? And I believe. I honestly do believe that you're the reason there are Joe Rogan's today. There are. There are. There are a litany of Glenn Beck, I hesitate to say wannabes. They're all doing it their own way, but you revolutionized. I believe you took talk radio to a next level. I hesitate to say you made it cool, because I don't think you've made anything cool ever in your life. But if I. I would say you did. And now there are all these guys who, you know, are making their own fortunes, and you broke down a lot of. A lot of doors because your talk show was unorthodox in the early 2000s. I believe it still is. It's still. You still throw in humor. You're still irreverent during monologues about very serious stuff. And I. We were doing that in the late 90s, too, and I thought, this is. I can't believe this is what morning radio is. When you left, I found out, no, it isn't. And you guys should have never been doing what you were doing. I had no idea. I'll never forget. One day, we averaged about three to four songs an hour. And I loved the music. Glenn would come on and be like, well, that was a really rocking tune from Third Eye Blind. You know, he would just mock the artist. I was loving them. When you left, I'll never forget, the program director took me aside. He goes, and now, Vinnie, we'll finally be able to play the. The amount of songs we're supposed to be playing an hour. And I said we weren't. Isn't it supposed to be three to four? And they said, no, it's 12. I had no idea. I had no idea that you were just making your own rules and doing a talk show. That's the only station.
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Glenn Beck
That's the way you're supposed to do it. That's the way you're supposed to do it. You didn't.
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Vinnie Penn
Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
You didn't play 12. You didn't. You never ended up playing 12 songs. Did you? You have too fat of a mouth.
- [117:20]
Vinnie Penn
I did struggle with that. It got up.
- [117:23]
Glenn Beck
You did right.
- [117:23]
Vinnie Penn
The anti got upped. But it is.
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Glenn Beck
Thank you.
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Vinnie Penn
That I'm able to do the long monologues that I do now. I learned a lot from you, Glenn. Like, for instance, here's one thing that I learned from you. When you get booked for 1105, say, on a radio show, you're like, wow, I gotta leave that hour open. When that host then bumps you to 11:35, you realize, oh, my segment just. I just got caught in half this. You're never gonna make it around the bend. That is noon when, When Sarah emailed me yesterday. We're gonna do 11:30. Okay. I know, Glenn. I've been cut in half. Under. Understood. I learned radio. I just have you.
- [118:08]
Glenn Beck
I just had. We just had important things. We just had important things. And you know me, I, I, I get. I would be much more likely to promote a book that was really more about you than about me. I get uncomfortable in, in, you know, these kinds of, these kinds of things. And I will tell you, Vinnie, I read the book. I called you right after I read the book. I thought I would read a little bit of it. I read the whole thing. I gave it to Tanya. She said, what are you, what are you reading? And I said, I have not gotten up. I started reading this book and I, I can't believe. It's like a whole new story to me. I wrote to you and I said, I don't know how much of this is true. I can't verify, because, you know, in the book you talk about me being oblivio. I was just focused on other things. But Tanya did, I, I caught her in the day. She spent the whole day reading the book, just laughing so much at all of it. And, and I really appreciated the way you treated Tanya in the book.
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Vinnie Penn
And well, and it's interesting, Glenn, because it took me writing the book to realize because one of something you would keep revisiting during those three years is, I don't know, I lost something here. I lost something there. And I would keep saying, well, then you'll find it here. You'll find it here. I didn't realize until writing the book, well, you got divorce and you found your, your wife, your second wife, your true love here. While I was writing it, I'm like, oh, that's the thing he lost. And that's the thing he found. It wasn't. He found talk radio here. It's. He found his True love here. She was a key ingredient, I think, to so many things there, and I'm glad she enjoyed it. There has to be something you remembered in that book, though. There has to be. Some of you, like, I remember that part.
- [119:53]
Glenn Beck
None of that. None of it. That I will admit to. I remember. I remember. Honestly, I remembered all of it. I did not remember how clueless I was on some things, especially when it came to people. I didn't. But I was different then, you know?
- [120:10]
Vinnie Penn
Yeah.
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Glenn Beck
Don't you think?
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Vinnie Penn
Yeah, in some ways. Like, I'd love to hear your thoughts. Technology, like, technology fascinated. You were ahead of everybody on the tech front. I'll never forget going into a meeting where they wanted to talk about our new commercial and you saying in the hallway, we don't want a commercial. Back me up. We want to get equipment in the studio so. So that people at home can watch us. They could dial up on their desktops and watch us do a radio show at home. And I said, all right, I'll back you up on that. Management resisted, but caved. And really, that's 1997, and you wanted people to see you doing a radio show. Now, I think they're called podcasts, and they're like, one of the biggest things. Did we do the world right now?
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Glenn Beck
So did we actually do that?
- [121:00]
Vinnie Penn
You. Absolutely. In 1997, we fought. That's how certain key players came into our fold. Young guys who were really tech savvy. You might recall Bob Calderella and people. And I remember thinking, we're never going to be at an appearance where any of these wonderful women I'm meeting are going to say, I was watching the show this morning and being surprised. The number wasn't great, but it was large enough that I thought, geez, he was right. People will, like, dial up.
- [121:30]
Glenn Beck
Well, you remember the dial up. Wow.
- [121:33]
Vinnie Penn
I didn't get. And watch it. That's why, Glenn, I would love to get your thoughts on AI because as I struggle with that, I'm thinking, Beck's probably got a really interesting view on AI. You know, I don't want to come across as a Luddite. Occasionally, I've got to embrace all of this technology. But I kick and scream into much of it, and you were always the opposite. You look at it, you eye it like a newborn. Like, how do I figure this thing out and how do I play with it? So what is. Where are you at on AI right now?
- [122:03]
Glenn Beck
So I will tell you, you should go back and listen to today's first hour, because I talk about the Bernie Sanders thing that he Talked about with AI, about how he wants, you know, 50% going to the government. That's insanity. However, we did build it. We, I know, but we did, we did build it. That was built on, on our information. And there, there are some discussions, especially with the, the AI centers. I'm going to do something on AI data centers tomorrow because everybody has them, I think has the approach wrong. You have the problems correct, you have the solutions wrong. But AI is, is going to decide the world of tomorrow. It will decide whether you are successful or not and whether a country, you know, if we are not leading the world, we will all be speaking Chinese. And that will happen.
- [123:01]
Vinnie Penn
Yeah.
- [123:02]
Glenn Beck
And it will be a very, very different world.
- [123:05]
Vinnie Penn
How did you feel about the Pope Leo's comments on it? Have you bought those yet? Glenn? You have to watch that.
- [123:12]
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I saw, yeah, no, I, I, I saw him. I, I didn't pay much attention to them. You know, I think he's, I think he's right about some things. I think he's not right about some things. But AI is a very dangerous tool that we should all be really, really aware of. If you have, if you have one thing you want people to walk away with on the book, what would it be?
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Vinnie Penn
Reinvention. It's never too, you, you can reinvent yourself once a decade, and I don't mean with intention and, but that it is possible. It's never over. There's always another chapter. I didn't even realize at 29 years old that I was in need of reinvention. I met this guy named Glenn Beck in a hallway who was in the throes of it, and he didn't realize he was in the midst of it. And I think you've reinvented. I think you're in the midst of another reinvention right now. Reinvention is necessary. Evolution is necessary. It's never too late for anyone.
- [124:23]
Glenn Beck
Vinnie, I'd love to talk to you. We'll do something online as well. Vinnie Penn, the name of the book is A Tale of Two Talk Show Hosts. It is out now. It is an unauthorized biography of.
- [124:35]
Vinnie Penn
I don't think that's necessary. It's not really necessary that way. That, that seems a bit much, but. All right.
- [124:43]
Glenn Beck
Vinnie Penn, get the book. A Tale of Two Talk Show Host. It is a side of me I have. We, we don't even talk about in the early stages of my talk radio career, when before it was even talk radio. Vinnie Penn, A Tale of Toad Talk show host get it wherever you get your books now. Thanks, Vinnie. We'll talk again. Let me tell you about relief factor. I want you to think about something for a second. When you were 20 years old, there were probably days when you, you didn't even think about your, your body. You just went to bed, you did what you wanted to do. You got up in the morning, you, you know, did your thing, you went bed, you slept okay. Now everything, everything doesn't seem like it wants to cooperate. You think, well, that's getting older. Things have changed. There's pain. And one of the reasons I'm such a fan, a fan of relief factor is because I had pain that I had honestly surrendered to that. I thought, oh, yeah, this is this way it's going to be. And it wasn't. It wasn't. I just needed my body to be strengthened naturally to be able to break the back of the and I went to every doctor possible. I had such pain. I mean, I'm sitting here in the studio and I'm writing with a writing pen. I never used to do that when I was in pain because my hands hurt too much. I couldn't hold a pen. And I love to handwrite things. It broke the back. Relief factor did get out of pain. At least try and try this. I'm telling you, it worked for me. Relief Factor relieffactor.com Call 800 for relief 800, the number four relief relief factor.com Glenn Beck, Welcome back to the program. If you missed any of the news of the day, we covered it all. Just grab the podcast wherever you get your podcast or listen online@glenn beck.com torch and we begin our summer of education early next week. But really a lot of it happened a lot of education on today's program. A lot of insight as well. And if you are a fan, fan of the show or an insider, you really need to read the Tale of two Talk Show Hosts by Vinnie Penn. I don't get anything from it, but I, I will tell you, reinvention, I love that because that is the main theme and you can do it.