Glenn Beck (25:20)

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Stu Burguiere (25:39)

So I find myself in this situation today, agreeing in theory and yet disagreeing in theory when we're talking about the President coming in and saying, hey, I'm negotiating for drug prices. Okay, wait, hold it, wait. I don't like this because I don't want the government involved in any of this. However. Hmm? If I don't like the government involved in any of this, then we shouldn't have Medicare, Medicaid and socialized anything. The government should be out of it. And that's where we have been as a nation, or I'm sorry, as a movement. Most of us have been, okay, can't do this, can't do, I don't want this. But that requires us to debate and win the debate on the bigger issue. Nowhere in the Constitution is this allowed for the government not to negotiate for drug prices. Nowhere in the in the Constitution is the government allowed to do socialized medicine. Okay? So if you want to have that argument, I am so with you on that. Let's have that argument. Let's have that argument.

Glenn Beck (26:50)

It's a fun argument.

Stu Burguiere (26:51)

Right now, if you want to just have the argument that, well, the president shouldn't negotiate on our behalf. Wait a minute. As a taxpayer, if you're going to. Can we just not get. Keep getting hit in the face by everybody around the world. They're all, Nick, this is so complex. This. This makes my brain hurt. Uh, everyone else is negotiating, we're not. So we're getting screwed. We're paying $2,000, you know, for a drug that the rest of the world is paying $20 for, for a drug. However, let's remember the rest of the world is on socialized medicine. They may pay $20 for a drug, but you still can't get that drug over there because it's socialized medicine.

Glenn Beck (27:39)

Of course, this is a big part of the. One of the reasons, you know, why we pay a premium is we generally get access to these drugs first.

Stu Burguiere (27:46)

Correct.

Glenn Beck (27:46)

The GLP1s are a great recent example of this. All the weight loss injection drugs, these are, you know, corporations made them. In fact, not even just American corporations. Novo Nordisk is not an American corporation. They're the ones that do Ozempic and that. And when they went into shortage, which they did when they came out, because everybody wanted them, we were like the only country getting them. Right? We got them before everybody else on the globe. Now, whether you like them or not is not the point here. The point is that these new drugs tend to come to markets just like, by the way, every other product. When you come up with a new product, where do they go to where people will spend more for them. Them. Right? So they came here and they didn't go anywhere else. You know, again, do you. Do you want that? You might not.

Stu Burguiere (28:31)

Here's the thing. As long as you. As long as the government doesn't get into negotiating drugs for everyone, you know, personally. Oh, you mean the socialized medicine thing that the government is doing, the Obamacare. You can't get that drug. Hey, guess what? Over here in the free market, you get off of Obamacare, you can have that drug. You know, if you make all of the system actually do what it will do eventually, which is destroy people's lives and become the VA for everybody, where everybody is like, I think I'd rather kill myself than go through this anymore, then maybe you have a chance of ending it. Because as long as they're not negotiating for the part of the market that is semi free sold. And it's not free because of all the government restrictions on, you know, health care and, and insurance. But if insurance, you know, maybe we could get that free and then that system would work and we'd be able to have the drugs. But right now, I don't know why we have to have this broken system and not negotiate. And look at the front. Not, not, not, not with, you know, super vision, not with 2010 vision, but what a 2020 vision. And look ahead and go, oh, I see that all of the bridges are out right in front of the car because we're collapsing because we can't afford everything. And so nobody's willing to argue that we shouldn't have all of these socialized programs. We've got to get people off these programs. Nobody's willing to do it. So if, if this move actually saves a lot of money and saves us from the abyss even for a couple of weeks, isn't it worth doing? Especially if it makes things worse for those who are for socialized medicine and makes the free market a little more attractive?

Glenn Beck (30:41)

Well, I mean, you know, there's a long litany of reasons as to why, you know, as you mentioned, it's not really something the government in the United States is supposed to have a role in.

Stu Burguiere (30:49)

I'm with you on that. I think we all, I think we have to just agree.

Glenn Beck (30:53)

Yes.

Stu Burguiere (30:53)

That the simple answer is no, you shouldn't do any of this. None of this is constitutional. Yeah.

Glenn Beck (31:00)

And I guess, like, it's part of it is just like going back to tracing why we opposed it when, you know, Bernie Sanders would propose something like this. Why did we oppose it when they tried to do it with Medicaid initially? There's a lot of reasons why. One of the reasons why is when you have a big, giant 5,000 pound gorilla like the US government and all the money that they spend on this, you wind up with major market manipulation and distortion. And that is a problem. Of course, one of the reasons why our medical system is good, if you believe it's good. By the way, we should also note that like, it's an interesting kind of confluence of events when we're sort of embracing the idea. I know you've talked about it a lot with RFK Jr. For example, that the reason why we have so much sickness is because of pharmaceuticals. Now, that's not my belief, but that is a belief of a lot of people in the movement currently. And if that is true, why would we Want to lower prices on these pharmaceuticals that we all say are causing all of our, you know, long term disease. I, I don't, I don't, I don't have an answer to that part. That's something that I think, if you're in that.

Stu Burguiere (32:07)

I think this is why so many people who have had really strong values for so long are waking up every day and going, I don't know how to feel about. Right.

Glenn Beck (32:17)

It's a confusing time.

Stu Burguiere (32:18)

I will say everything is broken. Every. I mean, you go to, okay, well, I mean, that argument, that's the next level.

Glenn Beck (32:25)

It's another one.

Stu Burguiere (32:25)

That's the next level. And you're like, well, why? Because the whole thing is broken. And you're like, yeah, good point. I don't really. Wow. I mean, it's. We're so deep down the road of there are no good options because we haven't made good. You know why we don't have nice things, kids? Because we break everything we have. That's why.

Glenn Beck (32:51)

Yeah, you know, you come to that. I was thinking about this a little bit because one of the way we've talked about these policies, this is not a new policy now. It is new through an executive order, which is another layer on top of this, because obviously if these policies could be done legally through an executive order, my belief is both Barack Obama and Joe Biden would have done them. They didn't even have. They didn't seem to even care whether they were legal. And they still didn't attempt this. We will see what the courts say, of course, about that.

Stu Burguiere (33:20)

But, like, I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't think you can out your.

Glenn Beck (33:28)

Way out of this.

Stu Burguiere (33:29)

I don't like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. Make it go away. Make it go away. I mean, it's so clear.

Glenn Beck (33:36)

But, but like, it's true, right?

Stu Burguiere (33:38)

Like I, we stop just violating the Constitution and that means we have to go back a hundred years. You're right. And which, by the way, you know who started Mother's Day? Woodrow Wilson.

Glenn Beck (33:50)

We didn't even get the Mother's Day Woodrow Wilson rant this year.

Stu Burguiere (33:53)

No, you didn't.

Glenn Beck (33:54)

Hopefully that's coming later on in the program. But like, when you, when you go back and you say, okay, let's trace this back in conservative thought. Conservatives have opposed this policy forever. Why? Maybe they're just wrong. I mean, look, conservatives are wrong on stuff, right? Maybe the movement has been wrong on this the entire time when other left wing people have been proposing it. Well, maybe they were.

Stu Burguiere (34:15)

No.

Glenn Beck (34:16)

One of the reasons though.

Stu Burguiere (34:17)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (34:18)

One of the real arguments from conservatives on this was to say, hey, we're going to lose medical innovation. Right. That's one of the main central arguments. When you distort a market like this, you wind up giving all sorts of incentives that you're not gonna see coming on day one that wind up destroying innovation in the medical field. I will say the movement doesn't seem all that interested in innovation in the medical field these days. Well, you know what?

Stu Burguiere (34:46)

Cause I played this out of my head driving in today. Okay, let me add that layer. Yeah, I'm not so worried about that. We're gonna have AI and AGI and ASI so soon. It's gonna solve all those problems that could be.

Glenn Beck (34:57)

I was going with it. I was thinking people aren't really in like the. I know, you know, the RFK people.

Stu Burguiere (35:02)

You're going to have interest in five years from now, you're going to have. Not even that. You're going to have AI or AGI or ASI that will say, oh, you want to fix that? Well, just here, mix this, this, this and you don't have to go to trials for it. It'll just be right. There will be. No, there, there are not going to be teams of people working on stuff. It'll be AI.

Glenn Beck (35:23)

It could be. Yeah. So that's a whole other level.

Stu Burguiere (35:26)

It will be. Whoa.

Glenn Beck (35:27)

It will be right. I mean it's still. And maybe AI completely solves this. I still think though, as an old timey capitalist, that like that the profit pursuits.

Stu Burguiere (35:41)

Lemonade there in your locker.

Glenn Beck (35:43)

Right. That profit, the pursuit of profit is incentive for innovation. So I do think that is a long term positive for the market and for innovation generally. And these things. Look, you can even, even if you don't like medications, probably acknowledge that some of these have been very positive. So you probably still want at least what you would consider the good innovations. So look, I understand what you're saying. It's not a. I understand why a lot of people are torn on this and I think I can see where you're coming from. It's not one that I feel torn on. I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think we should be in.

Stu Burguiere (36:17)

The middle of the.

Glenn Beck (36:20)

You're being a little bit more. Are open to it, which I, I understand because I.

Stu Burguiere (36:23)

The one thing I'm sure of, I'm not sure of anything anymore.

Glenn Beck (36:26)

Right, right.

Stu Burguiere (36:27)

Okay. That's. Other than that. Look, if the goal is to centralize power and control the pharmaceutical industry from Washington, I am 100% slam on the brakes. Now, I'm not against slamming on the brakes here for the other goal, but if the goal is for the power of the president to break up a corrupt pricing monopoly to give Americans leverage again because we've already violated the free market so horribly because the government has no place at the table, then is. Is that pragmatic and is that principled? I don't know. I just know this. The market has to be free, okay? But if the players inside, inside. I mean, it has. Competition has to be protected, okay? You, you, you have to have competition, accountability and consequences. We don't have any of those things right now. None of those things. That's not a true free market. That's a casino where the house always win and you and I always lose. That's what this is. So is this move going to reset the table? What if it forces companies to negotiate again, to compete again, to innovate again? I don't know. On. Usually that wouldn't happen, but we're. We're looking at a time when the whole country is just being sucked into a giant crap hole. And not because of Donald Trump, but because of what everyone has done for the last 100 years. The chickens are coming home to roost. So now how do you reset it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just. Here's what I. And I think you should use this as a motto. The only thing I'm certain of is that I'm not certain of anything anymore because the everything. You cannot just blanket say I'm a free market capitalist. Okay, great. So am I. Now let's take that apart and see what that means. Where did we go wrong? So what should you really be for? And until you're willing to say I'm for that and only that which will dig us into a deeper hole, should we be. Should we not be pragmatic or is that selling out? Don't know. Haven't dealt with these issues before, so. We'll have more on that coming up in just a second. First, let me tell you about. You know, most of us worry about deadlines, what's for dinner, you know, whether it's the neighbor's dog digging hole in our yards again, or if it's somehow or another. Strangely, one of the neighbor kids, you know, in Israel, they worry about what the next siren means. And you know that they have 10 seconds to get into a bomb shelter. Imagine that 50 times a day that alarm screams through the air in Israel. 50 moms grabbing their kids, first responders grabbing their gear. People praying. This isn't the one that takes everything from them. It's a horrific state. But you can help. I don't want to fight their battles. I don't want to do. I don't want to be involved in any of it. I don't. But I do want to support God's chosen people. International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is on the ground delivering life saving support to Israeli first responders who are running out of gear. Flak jackets, rescue bags, armored vehicles. A gift of $150 can equip the people who run toward the danger when the rest of us run away. It's not just charity, it's solidarity. It's standing with Israel when they need us the most. The sirens keep going off. Let's make sure there's somebody ready to answer. Your gift is urgently needed today. Call 888-488-IFCJ 888-488-ICJ or go online to supportifcj.org that's one word. Supportifcj.org this is Glenn Beck.

Glenn Beck (40:41)

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Stu Burguiere (40:48)

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Stu Burguiere (42:21)

The President is now speaking on the trade deal, the peace deal, and then he's going to do the drug deal. Wait, that sounds bad. He's doing drug deals.

Glenn Beck (42:32)

There's a new headline for the media to run with. It's interesting. Every once in a while you get this sort of criticism of Trump that he just sits around inside and watches Fox News all day. And that just does not, I'm not saying he doesn't watch a lot of Fox News. I think he likes Fox News at least at times. But like, I was just at the White House.

Stu Burguiere (42:51)

You can see it on in any room. In any room.

Glenn Beck (42:54)

He does seem familiar with the people on it. Like, Jeanine Pirro just got announced again, the reason she was on Fox News is because she had a high level government in New York. Job in law enforcement in New York.

Stu Burguiere (43:05)

Right.

Glenn Beck (43:06)

It's like people forget the first part of it.

Stu Burguiere (43:07)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (43:08)

Like you get a big job in law enforcement, then you get the Fox News gig, then you get hired into the Trump administration and people are like, he just keeps hiring broadcasters. No, they had the job because my uncle was a homicide detective in Westchester county in New York. Love the guy passed away years a few years ago, unfortunately due to cancer. But when he was there, he worked with Jeanine Pirro on a regular basis and loved her. Like, love. This is a guy who wanted to solve murders.

Stu Burguiere (43:38)

Oh, yeah. As a judge, she's good.

Glenn Beck (43:40)

Loved her. So, you know, she like. The point being though, what I get out of him is he's really freaking busy. Like, he's, he's doing a lot. I don't think he's just watching tv. I don't think he's hanging out, going to bed at noon like the last president was.

Stu Burguiere (43:57)

He's pretty busy.

Glenn Beck (43:58)

No, like it or not, he's pretty busy.

Stu Burguiere (44:01)

Okay. The China trade deal, the India Pakistan deal.

Glenn Beck (44:05)

There's a lot going on.

Stu Burguiere (44:06)

The drug deal, drug deals. I mean, the. When does he sleep? That was just from the last two days. And there's more than that. We'll have that coming up. This is Glenn Beck, American financing If you ever look at your monthly bills and think, you know, I make a decent amount of money, where is it all going? Well, it's not just the price of eggs or gas. It's all of those things and just about everything and everything's through the roof. It's debt, high interest debt. If you're really unlucky, it's your mortgage rate from two years ago following you around. It's the credit cards that you know that just won't stop. That's where American Financing comes in. They're not some massive bank with an automated phone tree that sends you into circles for six hours. They're a family owned team that works with you one on one to help you restructure debt, lower your repayments and get your finances back under control. Refinancing, debt consolidation, home loans, whatever it is, you need them, you should call them. So many people in this audience are saving an average of 800 and like 36 bucks a month every month. That's the average of this audience. So be a part of that. Save yourself 10, $12,000 a year. It's American Financing at 8009-0624-4080-0906-24440 or go to americanfinancing.net American Financing.net 800-906244 this episode.

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Wherever you get your podcasts, the other things that he's working on is. Is the China trade deal, which we talked about as well. That. That seems to be a pretty good deal. Looks like that may be in the rear view mirror. Also on Saturday, I guess we have a Pakistani and Indian peace treaty. What? I don't know when this guy sleeps. There's also the plane thing that we have to talk about. New Air Force One. That one is a little problematic, but I want to talk to you about that. And the latest on the Pope. The Pope came out this weekend and said, hey, I want to talk to you about the AI Thing. And he's right about this. We'll talk about that and so much more coming up in just a second. First, let me tell you about Simplisafe. You know who loves an outdated home security system? The people trying to get into your house, basically throwing a party every scene. Every time they see motion sensor from 1998, you know, it's a sign that still says dial up monitoring jackpot inside. 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Okay, so Pope, Pope Leo, which, I'm sorry, maybe it's just because of Leo the Lion, but when I think of Leo the Lion, I immediately think of the wizard of Oz and that lion. And I think of the Pope then saying, what do I have that the last Pope didn't have Courage? So excuse me, but he came out there saying now that he may not be as bad as Francis. Well, that would be nice. That would be nice. But he came out and he talked about AI and said, ah, we should be a little concerned about this because it could eat individualism. It could eat, you know, humanity and what it means to be human. And I think he's. I think he's right on that one. And, you know, there's two kinds of people. The people that think that. I know this is going to happen. Everybody said bad things, you know, about, about the Internet and social media and how it. Yeah, look what it's done in 10 sweet, sweet 10 years to our children. Look what it's done. And this is far more powerful, so don't dismiss it. And the other is, well, you're just afraid of progress now. I'm really not. I'm. I'm. I'm more afraid of surrendering the very thing that makes us human. You know, and here's the, here's the, the truth, the real hard truth on AI. It's real. AI is real. Its gifts are real, and its dangers are just as real. It. It is going to offer us blessings that we've never seen. Will change the world. It will. It'll. It'll. Personalized education for every single child. It will have medical breakthroughs. You know, we were just talking about the prescription drug thing that Trump just is signing in now. And, you know, part of that is, well, it's going to hurt innovation. Well, is it? I mean, it could, but we are looking about three years from now AI and AGI and ASI being able to go, oh, you want to solve that? I can solve it. Here's how you make this drug. I mean, it's. We're not going to have these labs doing all kinds of experiments. Should AI actually solve and do what everybody thinks it's going to do in a very short period of time? Creativity is going to be enhanced, productivity, time is going to be redeemed. It's really good. Now, there is a red line here, kind of really, you know, when AI stops being a tool and starts becoming the substitute for any kind of human thought, you know, or relationships. AI like government, just like fire, it can light your way, it can warm your home, or it will burn everything in your life down to the ground. So when I saw the Pope's message this weekend, I, of course, went on to AI and I said, what do you think of this? Okay, here's what AI said to me. Look out, because there is. There are going to be a few things that are going to happen that you can watch for to see how close you are to having humans being eaten. 1. Dependence over discernment. Listen to this. Dependence over discernment. If you're asking, what do you think I should do, okay, instead of this is what I believe. Can you challenge this or support this? You've already started to slip. If you've. If you're. What? What is it I believe? Problem? Delegating moral reasoning. Number two. When we allow AI to define harm, truth or justice, we're handing our civilization soul to a machine that doesn't have one. That's a machine telling you this. Okay, that's, that's. That's a machine. You know what that is? Remember when I have ever said I don't know, People say they're going to kill you. I take them at face value. You're foolish not to. When you have AI saying, by the way, I'm going to destroy humanity. I don't know. I think I listened to it. I think I listened to it. So it says, these are the things to stay away from. Chat bots for friends. Mary just talked about that with Mark Zuckerberg last week. Avatars for pastors, algorithms for God. Quote. That's the fracture point. Number four. Censorship disguised as safety. When AI starts pushing or erasing certain thoughts in the name of alignment, you're already living in an invisible dictatorship. Five, the illusion of control. If you can't shut it off, opt out or walk away. You are no longer the master of the machine. So then I asked, well, what will it look like when it starts to break? Answer. It'll be quiet, subtle. You'll start to see the sameness everywhere. No dissent, no original thought, just sanitized, optimized group. Think. Your kids won't be able listen to this. Your kids won't be able to explain why America matters. I don't think our kids can do that now. They won't understand what a right is, where it came from, or why it's not up for a vote. Instead of discussion, you'll hear nothing but slogans. Instead of conviction, you'll see compliance. And when it collapses, it won't take decades. It may take hours or days. Can you unplug if the lines are crossed? That's my question. Answer only if you're practiced before the moment comes. Unplugging is not about flipping a switch. It's about building a new muscle now. So what is that muscle? Think critically, knowing who you are without a screen, standing on something deeper than a prompt or. Or a feed. Wow. When did those become something we have to remind ourselves to do? When did that become something? Like, I don't know. I think critically, know who I am without the screen. That's a crazy thought. Standing on something deeper than A prompt or a feed. How many people do that now? How many people actually know what they're for, what they're against? A lot of people will say, I, I'm against this. But will they even know why? Well, even. Do they even know why they're for something? Most people are educated through social media. And anyone, the, the man who reads nothing at all is better educated today than someone who only reads social media. Let that sink in, because that's true. Right now, you should use AI as a teacher, not a replacement. But as a teacher, right now, you can use AI to educate yourself, to learn economics, to go on and say, this is what I believe. Make the case, make the strongest case for and against. And then debate. Debate Western thought, learn about Western thought. Debate morality and philosophy. Learn the Constitution. Learn how to grow food. Learn how to fix a generator. Speak clearly. Think clearly. Reclaim your foundations. Learn the Bible for moral law, for human dignity, divine order. Those things are really important. Learn the Declaration and the Constitution. Know your rights and responsibilities. Know Adam smith, the Toqueville, C.S. lewis. See the patterns and predict the collapse before it happens. And know where you should be standing if that collapse happens. Because if you know what's true, you will see what's false before anyone, before anyone else. And then that allows you to teach others and lead quietly. Because when confusion is the word of the day, when everything and everybody is confused, clarity is going to look an awful lot like leadership. I saw this warning. I've been, you know, 15 years ago, I launched something, I launched the Blaze 15 years ago, and my goal was to disrupt the media. And I gotta say, if you look, you're like, I think that worked. I think that worked. You know, when we first started, Netflix was still sending movies in the mail. And look at now the media. If you weren't on FOX News, cnn, abc, NBC, cbs, you had no voice. You had no voice. But honestly, because of you and this audience, you gave power to the voices that would have been crushed in the system through the Blaze. And we made truth competitive again. Some of the people that, that we helped elevate now sit in the White House press room. That's incredible. Incredible. Now, here's what needs to be disrupted. Education. And I can be a part of it. Can be, but it is. We have to be so incredibly careful. I don't trust AI coming from Silicon Valley. I don't trust AI coming from Chat GPT. I don't. I don't trust it. I don't trust any of it. I don't trust. Because I Know how it works? Well, nobody actually knows how it works, but I know what a lot of its faults are right now. And I also know it depends on who's programming it. I want to tell you that I have. I have two teams of people that are working on something that I hopefully will be announcing soon, one in each hemisphere. So one team is working while the other team is asleep, and then they switch in the middle of the night and been working around the clock for over six months on something. And we're building something. I'm building something that wasn't even possible 24 months ago. Not even possible. But I believe in the end, this is going to be the one thing. This is going to be the thing that is most. The most important thing I've ever done. And the time is short, and I'll talk to you about it later this summer, and hopefully, if you feel the urgency that I feel, you'll be able to support this. But we have to corral AI and dedicate ourselves to education. Today I'm. I'm with Prageru all day. I'm filming a whole bunch of stuff for PragerU that AP classes are going to have access to all over the country. And I'll tell you more about that when. When it's out. But. But the opportunities that are happening right now on education are endless, and we're going to lead that. So you need to start educating yourself right now. But here's the one thing. When you. When I read this thing from, you know, Pope Leo Courage, I. I thought to myself immediately, okay, well, that's not good. I want you to. I want you. Here's your mission today. Here's the one thing you should be working on today. Starting today, constantly say these two words. But God, I had been saying, well, it's going to be interesting to see how that all works out. And that's kind of defeatist in a way. I mean, it's a funny way for me just to dismiss all the things and like, well, that's not going to go well. That's going to be interesting to see how everybody works that one out. Change it. But God. But God. Understand the phrase, learn it and live it. So in six months from now, it's such a part of you that it shapes how you walk, how you think, how you lead. And let me explain all. Much of the stuff that we're talking about. And. And then some things that I talked to you about 20 years ago are still on the horizon. And it's. It's. It's Going to be a tough ride. It's going to be a very. It's going to get much worse before it gets much better. But here's the thing that all of the models and everything else and AI cannot account for. And that is but God. Because nothing factors him in except you. They never do. The models never do. But God's already working right now in small ways, in hearts that I don't see. 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Donald Trump's little meetings every day with the press, that's what cuts out the middleman. Yeah, you just go right directly to the source. He'll spend 25, 30, 45 minutes just talking to the press, answering any question, and you get it directly from him. It's brilliant.

Glenn Beck (65:17)

I think it's a good innovation in the presidency largely too. I mean, certainly much better than what we had last President. A guy who would just disappear for months at a time. It's good that he's out there talking to the American people. Whether you like his policies or not, at least you're hearing about them from him. It's kind of nice. Are you still Joe Biden right now.

Stu Burguiere (65:41)

By the way?

Glenn Beck (65:42)

One interesting part about the drug thing, because in the examples, you can always find examples, you would mention one of $2,000, $20 of the price that we're paying, but the average is about three times as much for brand name drugs.

Stu Burguiere (65:56)

Oh, that's not bad.

Glenn Beck (65:57)

Which is high.

Stu Burguiere (65:58)

Yeah, it is.

Glenn Beck (65:59)

I will say, however, we're paying about a less than competing countries on generic drugs, which are 90% of our prescriptions in this country. So there is a small subset of drugs where we do pay more. But overall that's not really the case at all. And certainly the problem has been massively exaggerated by the left over the years. And I think there are examples of it where you could sit here, people will point to that guy, who's the guy, pharma brother, who was like jacking up all the prices. This is years ago.

Stu Burguiere (66:31)

I can't remember.

Glenn Beck (66:33)

You'd know the story if I went through the whole thing. But there are certain examples of prices going really, really high on certain things, especially drugs that only hit small segments of the population. And of course, if you're in that segment, you have a disease that could be helped by one of those drugs. Really, really important to you. As a societal situation, though, the problem does get very much overblown. I mean, it really isn't as dramatic as it is tossed out there by the media.

Stu Burguiere (67:01)

Here's what the President is appealing to. American sense of fairness. Yeah, it is, it is. And then the sense of, have we been rubes this whole time? Everybody else is negotiating and we're not negotiating. No, we're actually for the free market system. The problem is we violated it. So so far, so, so deep violation through our, our, our Medicare, Medicaid and our insurance companies and the way we regulate them. You know, you either have to dump that or you have to negotiate for a better deal. This is Glenn Beck.

Glenn Beck (67:45)

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Stu Burguiere (69:19)

Yeah, hang on just a sec. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. China has just said that they're going to not ship fentanyl to the United States anymore. And as a guy who wakes up on operating tables, what do you mean by that? I mean, fentanyl is a good thing. It's also a very bad thing. But it's a good thing.

Glenn Beck (69:40)

It's a good thing if used pro. Used as directed.

Stu Burguiere (69:43)

Use as directed. Yes.

Glenn Beck (69:45)

That's kind of the.

Stu Burguiere (69:45)

Yeah. Thing.

Glenn Beck (69:46)

So, you know, you're saying you want fentanyl for its medical uses?

Stu Burguiere (69:50)

For medical uses, yeah. I mean, you know, it's. I mean, sometimes there's pain that. I mean, I. Look, I don't want to take Fentanyl. I don't ever want to take fentanyl again. But I was in pain so badly that that's the only thing that took me out of pain for a while. And I didn't have a problem with that at the time. I wanted the pain to stop. And, you know, strangely, it doesn't. It just makes you like, I don't care. I don't really care anymore. I think I might be able to fly. I could put myself out. I'm on fire. I'll Put myself out by flying off the roof, you know, so it's bad when not under, you know, the strict supervision of a doctor.

Glenn Beck (70:33)

Right. Yeah. I was talking to a friend of mine who's an anesthesiologist this weekend where, you know, in between baseball games, watch. And he was saying that. He was talking about some drug. It wasn't Fentanyl. It was another one. In my mind. It translated as the Michael Jackson drug, propofol. It might have been that. And he was saying this has come a long way over the years, this technology. But he says sometimes certain people, he says, especially people maybe who have sleep apnea, have issues. Some people who are bigger have issues where.

Stu Burguiere (71:07)

That's two out of the two. You're batting a thousand. Congratulations. I'm anxious to hear what he has to say here.

Glenn Beck (71:15)

But he said sometimes people will, in the middle of, like, of this, will open their eyes and just look at you right in the eyes and be awake, but not like, not awake, like, dead inside. Almost like, you know, like. Not like, hey, having a conversation, but like, no, I wake up.

Stu Burguiere (71:31)

I wake up and I'm like, gah. I just don't look him in the eye. I just say I'm in pain. And then they usually have me down again by that time.

Glenn Beck (71:41)

Yeah, it's credible. Like, what. What they can do with this. And that's the thing. Like, part of the issue, I think, over the years is we've gotten a little too generalistic with the medical field and that, like, you know, pharmaceutical companies are the problem. Like, period. And it's like, well, they might cause some problems. Some of them certainly have done bad things. We've had government mandates that we've all disagreed with. On the other hand, they also do a lot of really great things. And you gotta find that balance.

Stu Burguiere (72:09)

I guess this is like where you have to. I mean, this is where you have to find most things. You shouldn't be totally against or for anything. Now, there are a few caveats. National socialism, I'm completely against.

Glenn Beck (72:23)

Are you sure?

Stu Burguiere (72:24)

I'm positive. I'm positive.

Glenn Beck (72:26)

Some historical evidence.

Stu Burguiere (72:27)

Some historical evidence may pop up from time to time, but there are some things. But for the most part, you can't say pharmaceutical companies are bad. They're not. They're both. They can be greedy, they can be destructive, but they also can be miracle workers. Miracle workers.

Glenn Beck (72:46)

Yeah. It's true. I was talking to a friend of mine who was very much off of the big pharma bandwagon, let's say. I talked to him and he's always said, and we bust on each other over it and we're definitely on different sides of it. And he was just like, oh, gosh, you know, every single thing is, you know, he's. Anything you can come up with. It's a negative connotation to a pharmaceutical company. He'll. He'll kind of what he believes. Until he was in the hospital because he had hurt himself and needed drugs. Then he was all for it. Like, then all of a sudden you're all for it.

Stu Burguiere (73:18)

And like, you're usually, when you get to that point, you usually, you're usually all for it.

Glenn Beck (73:23)

Like, I gotta tell you, make it stop. All right.

Stu Burguiere (73:27)

This is really a good thing.

Glenn Beck (73:30)

Yeah. And so there's a differ between, hey, every single time you have a minor issue, you should take endless medication to the end of your life. And look, a lot of these things actually have done a lot of really positive developments.

Stu Burguiere (73:43)

What do you think about advertising? Pharmaceutical companies? Advertising?

Glenn Beck (73:47)

I'm fine with it. I know most people are not. That's not.

Stu Burguiere (73:50)

We're the only ones in the world that do it.

Glenn Beck (73:53)

And I don't know, again, this used to be a thing that the American people would be proud of. I know when we had a. I know I'm not yelling at you, but.

Stu Burguiere (74:02)

Like, it feels like it.

Glenn Beck (74:03)

I do you know what, you bastard. No, we used to, used to say, hey, we're the only ones doing this. Yeah, we're the only ones with a, with a, with the First Amendment, for example. We used to be proud of such things.

Stu Burguiere (74:17)

I know, but we also.

Glenn Beck (74:20)

But wait, but what is Inner Mongolia doing it? If Mongolia has the policy, it must.

Stu Burguiere (74:26)

Must be right, right? No, those people didn't even have TVs. They really have it going on anyway, you know, the. But the problem is, is that we've. Everything's so out of whack. That's the problem. For instance. Wait, wait, wait. I have no problem with advertising. Believe me, I've built empires on advertising.

Glenn Beck (74:47)

Not really pharmaceutical advertising.

Stu Burguiere (74:49)

No. Yes, but, so I understand advertising, but there is a difference between, between, you know, I go back to Edward Bernays, the guy who is the father of modern, they say advertising. He used to be the father of propaganda. Yeah. Until Goebbels used all of his teachings to like, you know, do everything that National Socialists do. That's a earlier topic, you know, it's, it's propaganda. And when it is overused and people just become so brainless that they're like, gaga, come on. That I got it. You know, What? I got that problem. I got that problem. I need that drug to make that problem go away. And you really don't have that problem. And nobody really, everybody's just making a buck when, when it gets that far out of whack, then you have problems. Everything can be solved with all of us just kind of backing away from the extremes, just going, you know what, it's not necessarily a bad thing.

Glenn Beck (75:48)

Not on things like free speech, though. We, no, no, no, shouldn't back off from that. Companies should be able to advertise what they want to advertise, in my view.

Stu Burguiere (75:57)

I'm saying mine too. What I'm saying is that if we would just, I don't know, have an ounce of self control.

Glenn Beck (76:08)

Yeah.

Stu Burguiere (76:09)

We wouldn't have to worry about regulation.

Glenn Beck (76:11)

Well, that's a great point because. And this is why when this debate comes down the line, I'm always confused at who the target is in it. The target is the pharmaceutical company for saying what they believe their drug does. Now, you might say, you might disagree with that. But we have a system in which doctors are required to prescribe these medications. And if you go, if I go.

Stu Burguiere (76:36)

Hey, I've got Plopoplo, which I saw, I was, I was watching a basketball.

Glenn Beck (76:44)

Game and they said I should have ploppable. And then you're. There's an element here where the doctor's supposed to say, well, wait a minute, that actually would make any sense for you. Or it would. Right, right. And like people will say, well, they have undue influence on the doctor. You should have a doctor that does. It isn't telling you what brings me.

Stu Burguiere (77:03)

Back to what I said, have an ounce of self control.

Glenn Beck (77:06)

Exactly. It is up to you. It's first of all, you to make your decision, your decisions as to what you put in your body. And then secondly, it is an issue where the doctors should have a line there. Like, it's like, it's like saying, you know, fast food companies shouldn't be able to advertise. Well, there's a line there where you're supposed to make decisions on what you eat. It's your responsibility, not theirs. They shouldn't have to say, well, our food actually sucks. You should be able to make decisions about yourself.

Stu Burguiere (77:36)

So here's the thing and it, I mean, it goes back to, I mean, this is rather new thought. Ok? It goes, it goes back to, I don't know, when was it last week? No, 1750, where Adam Smith was talking about wealth of Nations. That's the capitalist system. Before that Was book one of the series Moral Sentiments.

Glenn Beck (78:03)

Yeah.

Stu Burguiere (78:04)

Where if you don't have self control, if you as a society are just like, I want some of that, you're you, you're gonna get exactly what you deserve. And that's the problem we have. We have put all of our faith in wealth of nations and completely dismissed moral sentiments. Wealth of nations, the capitalist system does not work without self control by everyone involved. That means you, the consumer. I want more porn. It will give you more porn. So if you don't have self control, then the free market is incentivized because everybody's screaming for more porn. You're gonna produce people who rise up and like I'm gonna make money off of that. And they'll produce because they have no moral sentiments either. They'll produce the porn for everybody screaming for porn. So how do you do it? You regulate the market? No, you teach moral sentiments. That's why, that's why in our country, this is why religion has been so important. Because it puts a self regulator on people. When you look, you don't even have to believe in God. You don't even have to believe in God. Let's just say, let's just say, let's let you and I talk as a couple of atheists here that just don't have any belief in God at all. Look, the rubes that do believe in God, because I know you know so much better. I do too. You know, we don't, we don't buy into those fairy tales. So you and I know better. We don't have to have self regulation at all. We're totally solid. But the rest of those people, if they just believe there's a scary God, some scary sky God there with his thunder gun and he's like, oh, you're bad. I'm going to send you to hell. Maybe they won't do those bad things and society will work. Now let me explain this as a Christian. If we just do what God told us to do, he's frustrated. God's exactly like you are, except a better version of it. But he's exactly like you are. He's been saying to us, don't do that. That's going to hurt. Don't, don't, don't run with those scissors. Don't know. Don't run into. You're going to run into the patio door. You're going to run into the patio door. It's the patio door. Don't run. You're going to run into the. Boom. You hit the patio door. And God's like, yeah, yeah. Now is that a punishment? No, he's been telling you the whole time, don't do that because that's going to happen. So he's just laying out a few rules and going, hey, don't do that, cuz I'm not gonna punish you. Your own actions will punish you by us not having moral sentiments. It's nobody's fault. It's not the Internet's fault, it's not the pharmaceutical company's fault, it's not the doctor's fault, it's not the, it's not the politician's fault. You know, it's our fault, it's their fault, it's all of our faults. As humans, as Americans, we've chosen, we can have everything, we can do whatever we want. What I do doesn't matter. It does matter. You want to fix things, that's the only way to fix them. It's never going to be fixed in Washington. It's going to be fixed by each of us having just a little bit of self control. You should read this new book called by this new writer, what's his name? Adam Smith. Wealth of nations is book two. Moral Sentiments is book one. Read Moral Sentiments, you'll understand how to fix it all. All right, let me tell you about Z Factor. Somewhere along the line, when you started treating sleep like a optional upgrade, a luxury for people who don't have real responsibilities. You stay up late, you wake up early, you run on caffeine and obligation and you tell yourself it's fine, it's fine. I'm not sleeping very much, but it's fine. Eventually your body starts, stops believing that lie and you realize, wow, I'm doing damage to my body, I'm exhausted. This is where Z Factor comes in. It's a doctor formulated, research backed sleep supplement that actually works with your body, not against it. You take it every night. When you, when you take it, you'll fall asleep faster, you can stay asleep longer and you wake up feeling like you actually slept. Like your body finally got the exact thing you've been missing. Deep, satisfying rest. This helps your body get into that position. I have trouble sleeping. My wife has more trouble sleeping. It's bad. You know, there's just nothing like it. When you're like, I've got to go to work and I've got to sleep and then it's just a cycle that just continues. If you're tired of being tired, maybe stop treating sleep like it's a suggestion. Help your body do what it naturally needs to do. And that's sleep. Z Factor Rest like you mean it first time Z Factor buyer is going to enjoy 46% savings. It's 1995. For a 30 day supply visit relief factor.com relieffactor.com 800 for relief 800 the number four relief back. We'll be right back.

Glenn Beck (83:32)

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Glenn Beck (87:57)

We shouldn't let him listen.

Stu Burguiere (87:59)

Advertise.

Glenn Beck (88:01)

She advertising.

Stu Burguiere (88:03)

People will be fooled. And they.

Glenn Beck (88:05)

They will be required to listen to evanescent. I'm concerned, Glenn.

Stu Burguiere (88:11)

You're concerned?

Glenn Beck (88:12)

I'm concerned people might get over overwhelmed by this.

Stu Burguiere (88:14)

I know.

Glenn Beck (88:15)

Is she causing all of our problems in society?

Stu Burguiere (88:17)

All of our problems. All of our problems. All right. More in just a second. This is Glenn Beck. Let me tell you about Chase Medical. You know, you don't think about antibiotics until you need antibiotics. And then, you know, it's usually too late to start asking questions about supply chain stock levels, whether the pharmacy is even open. So I've been telling you about Jace Medical for a while now. It's an emergency supply of prescription antibiotics, five different medications, all doctor approved. Ship right to your door before you need them. Now Jace is Taking things to the next level, they have launched new, more comprehensive version of the Jace case. Ten medications instead of five, including treatments for a wider range of infections. Just $20 more. That makes it the most complete emergency medication kit on the market. And yes, it's still available without begging your doctor or waiting in line at a clinic. If you've ever worried about shortages, medical delays, natural disasters, just having the medications you need in the middle of the night, this is something you need to have on hand for yourself and for your family. It's Jace Medical emergency medicine without the emergency. Just go to jace.com, enter the promo code Beck at checkout for a discount on your order. That's promo code beckase.com.com. that's jace.com. all right, last hour of the program coming up. Just a second. This stand your ground when times get down Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program. Hello, America. The most listened to news talk radio program in America. Welcome, we're glad you're here. Let me tell you about a couple of things. Apparently 71% of Democrats now want someone else in jail besides Donald Trump. I want to get to that here in just a second. First, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. You ever get the sinking feeling that your phone company might actually hate you? I mean, you're paying them every month, right? And then they turn around and they use your money to donate causes that you don't believe in, you don't support, you don't want to support. In fact, you're exactly the opposite of what you would support. Politicians who undermine your values. You're paying for that now. Every time you make a phone call, I feel it's like page one of the abusive boyfriend handbook, right? Listen, Patriot Mobile exists to give you an actual choice that you can be comfortable, even happy with. They're America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. They use the same cell towers as the big guys so you get great coverage. But unlike the big guys, they actually support the things you care about. First responders, veterans, unborn life, religious freedom. And when you switch, you're not just saving money, you're sending a message to those companies that you, you don't have to fund the destruction of your values just to have a signal anymore. Okay, here's, here's what you do. You go to patriotmobile.com you stay connected to your family, your country, what matters, and connected to whoever it is you're calling or texting. 972 Patriot 972 Patriot is their phone number. You can go to patriotmobile.com beck. Make sure you use the promo code. Beck get a free month of service@patriot mobile.com. okay, 71% of Democrats now say that this person should go to prison. Prison. Who is that person? Besides Donald Trump.

Glenn Beck (92:43)

I was going to say only 70%. It can't be Trump.

Stu Burguiere (92:46)

Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who, Who?

Glenn Beck (92:48)

I believe I know the answer.

Stu Burguiere (92:50)

Yeah, who is it?

Glenn Beck (92:50)

Elon Musk.

Stu Burguiere (92:51)

Elon Musk. Elon fricking Musk. They now want to put Elon Musk in prison.

Glenn Beck (92:58)

The guy that saved the climate.

Stu Burguiere (93:00)

Saved the climate. Single handedly saved. Didn't. More for climate than anybody else on the planet. Yes. Dare I see it even more than Al Gore. Wow.

Glenn Beck (93:10)

The guy who invented the Internet.

Stu Burguiere (93:11)

Yeah, he did.

Glenn Beck (93:12)

I will say if you're looking at this honestly with the left wing calculus, right. It is impossible to disagree with that, that he's done more than anyone else. I mean, he basically took electric cars from nothing when no one wanted them, no one had them, and built the world's largest car company out of it. Not to mention what he's done with SpaceX, which also has a massive climate motivation. Not to mention what he did with. What is it? SolarCity, the solar company that solar roofs and solar panels. How many conservatives do we know that either own Teslas or owners have solar on their house now or both? Yeah, and not because of the conservative turn necessarily to Elon Musk, which is part of it lately, but because he was the first person actually made it work.

Stu Burguiere (94:09)

Yeah, yeah. Now it's just so, you know, so you don't get all down in the mouth when I say they want to put him in prison. You might say, what's the logical question there? 71% of Democrats want to put him in prison. The logical question is why?

Glenn Beck (94:22)

What did he do? What's a crime?

Stu Burguiere (94:23)

Yeah, yeah, no, it's actually 71% of Democrats now want to pass a law that puts him into prison.

Glenn Beck (94:33)

Oh, yeah.

Stu Burguiere (94:34)

So just when you thought it was bad.

Glenn Beck (94:35)

No, no, it's much, much worse. They want to retroactively put him in prison, not for a crime he committed, but for one they can make him commit.

Stu Burguiere (94:43)

Essentially they are four. A unidentified nondescript law that would put him in prison. Wow. How far are you going to fall, Democrats, before you realize I might be on the wrong side? You now are for passing a coming up with a law where the objective is put that guy in jail. I think there's no way to defend that. I I mean, I'm just working on it just off the top of my head here, but I don't think I could find a way to. Would you ask Grok or Chat GPT? How could I defend creating a law whose objective is only to put Elon Musk in jail?

Glenn Beck (95:36)

How would I have to ask Grok that question? I can't. Yeah, yeah. Give me a defense of a law that.

Stu Burguiere (95:41)

No, of writing a law whose only objective is to put Elon Musk in jail. Let's see what Grok has to say, because I don't even think Grok could come up with it. Hopefully the answer is, I can't justify that.

Glenn Beck (95:59)

I'm going to get. No, my Twitter account is going to get. It's going to get no reach after I type this sentence. But I'll watch.

Stu Burguiere (96:05)

I bet you it will come up with something. It doesn't. It plays fair with Elon Musk. It won't defend him.

Glenn Beck (96:11)

No, I know. I'm just saying some part of this algorithm is going to pick up. I'm trying to put Elon Musk in jail. I'm not going to get any retweets for a month. Defending a law with the sole objective of jailing Elon Musk is a tough sell, but let's give it a shot by framing it in a way that might appeal to reason while acknowledging the obvious pitfalls. The argument hinges on principles of accountability, deterrence and symbolic justice, though it's riddled with issues that might make it more of a thought experiment than a practical proposal. First, such a law could be pitched as a response to concentrated power. Musk's influence through wealth control of companies like Tesla, SpaceX.

Stu Burguiere (96:48)

That's how they'd have to do it. You'd have to go, well, no, it's about concentrated power. And that was not the question in the poll. That is not the question in the poll. Question in the poll is, would you support the designing of a law to put Elon Musk in jail? That is.

Glenn Beck (97:08)

Again, this is why we harp on principles and foundations so much, because no matter what the name is in that sentence, the answer is always no. Like the principle of the moment, you'd have to know that at the beginning, right. When you hear a sentence like that, you should reflexively say, absolutely not. Regardless of who the person is, what winds up happening with a lot of people on the left, and I think it's a problem on the right to a lesser extent, is, do I like the name that it was mentioned? Do I think bad things should happen to the person mentioned in the sentence. Like if we were to flip that around and say, do you support a law that would throw George Soros in prison? I do not support a law that was created with the sole design to put George Soros in prison. If George Soros broke a law, he should go to prison.

Stu Burguiere (98:04)

Absolutely.

Glenn Beck (98:05)

But I do not support a law created to put him in prison.

Stu Burguiere (98:08)

No.

Glenn Beck (98:08)

Even though I really don't like him. Now you get to the LeBron James territory, I might go along with you.

Stu Burguiere (98:14)

But even with Soros, I would support a law that would say, you cannot do these things in the future. Yeah. And that means he has to stop doing those things. Right.

Glenn Beck (98:26)

But he does not get in trouble, however, and it is a principle of our country, you do not get in trouble for things that happened beforehand. Right. You can't retroactively prosecute someone for a crime for a law that was passed afterward. That, I think is a fundamental principle of our country. And of course, it should be applied equally to everyone. It shouldn't just be to one person, because his name.

Stu Burguiere (98:49)

Okay, what did your. What did Grox say? Because I just asked ChatGPT. I think. I think ChatGPT answer might be even better than Grok. Now, that's. Grok is Elon Musk's own company.

Glenn Beck (98:59)

Right.

Stu Burguiere (98:59)

Which is why. So what did it say at the beginning? What was the opening?

Glenn Beck (99:02)

It said, defending a law with the sole objective of jailing Elon Musk is a tough sell, but let's give it a shot by framing it in a way that may appeal to reason while acknowledging the obvious pitfalls.

Stu Burguiere (99:10)

Listen to this. This is from ChatGPT.

Glenn Beck (99:12)

Okay.

Stu Burguiere (99:12)

Okay. Legally and morally, it's extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible, to justify writing a law whose sole and explicit purpose is to imprison one individual such as Elon Musk, without violating core principles of justice, equality under law, and constitutional protections. However, if the question is to attempt an argument in favor of such a law as a rhetorical or theoretical exercise, here is the best possible version of that case, Though it is inherently flawed and dangerous.

Glenn Beck (99:51)

Right. And that's.

Stu Burguiere (99:52)

Listen to that.

Glenn Beck (99:53)

Good, good.

Stu Burguiere (99:56)

You know, you know why. You know, you know why. You know why AI is giving that answer? Because unlike you so far, unlike anybody of those 71% of Democrats who are like, yeah, I'd be for that. It's still using critical thinking. It still is saying, wait a minute, I gotta check. It's. I have to check this against a couple of other things I have to ask a couple of questions. Is that right to do? Is that constitutional to do? Is that. Does that support liberty and justice and, and equality under the law? Or is this just a totalitarian state? If you don't ask those critical thinking questions, you're like, yeah, I don't like Elon Musk. Put him in prison. You know, get the guillotine out. I want blood. It'll be great.

Glenn Beck (100:45)

And by the way, I will say what you just heard us do is literally happening inside the halls of Washington right now. One of the things that's interesting about these programs, which are very, very good at what they do, is there used to be a line where politician came up with a crazy idea, right? And they would prop it up there and they would say, hey. They would go to their attorneys and say, could we do this? And the attorneys would typically say, no, of course not. You can't do that. What's happening now is everyone's got kind of an attorney in a box and they're going to it and they're saying, hey, give me the best case possible for this policy, which we all know is insane. And it is. Providing that best case. It's not.

Stu Burguiere (101:33)

But listen to the best case.

Glenn Beck (101:35)

But they toss out all of the stuff you read already and then they bring that to the American people and try to get it to catch on. It is happening. You've heard examples of this. One example I'll give you of this is the one that Joe Biden did right at the end of his presidency when he just declared the Equal Rights Amendment passed. This is what they do. They go in there and they get some justification. It's not the justification, not the truth. It's a possible argument that could theoretically maybe be the truth, maybe. And then they just go to the public with it and try to enforce it. Now, it didn't work in that everyone just ignored Joe Biden because they thought he was asleep as he was saying it. But it is a real concern now.

Stu Burguiere (102:20)

Okay, so listen to how it says, Listen, this is how you can do it, okay? If I want to justify it, justify a law that puts Elon Musk in jail, it says in this hypothetical Elon Musk, by virtue of his control over critical infrastructure Starlink, platforms for public discourse, discourse like Twitter or X, massive transportation and defense contracts. Tesla space and global influence could be seen as a private actor with state like power. Okay, you're like, yeah, all right, then what about everyone else? Like, I don't know, George Soros? What about Jeff Bezos? What about anybody on your side? What about anybody. Once you cross this Rubicon, you don't go back. But anyway, let me could be seen as an actor with state like power but without state level checks. If he repeatedly evades regulatory oversight or is found manipulating markets, weaponizing satellites in geopolitical conflicts, or undermining US sovereignty through opaque foreign deals, Congress might argue that national interest justifies emergency action. From that vantage point, a law targeting Musk might be framed not as a personal vendetta, but as a necessary surgical like strike to prevent a modern day oligarch from becoming untouchable, a figure above the law, immune to consequences. So you would have to have all of those other things happening and then maybe you could make the case, but what is the moral detriment then? You just have opened the door for everybody going to jail and you have no, you have no meaning behind law. You could write a law to make anybody go to jail. And that, that, that is the thing. Isn't that the thing that I did that everybody's saying that they're trying to avoid? I know I'm trying to avoid that from the right and the left. I don't want laws to be personal. I want to be a nation of laws, not a nation of men. And men, what do men do? Well, when you're a nation not of laws, and you're a nation of men, men can say, that person needs to go to prison because I don't like that person. Which that's what a nation of men do. A nation of laws is what George Washington said. We now have. We have a nation of laws and not a nation of men. A nation of laws don't allow you to single one individual out. It means you have to look to the law. Are they violating something? What are they doing that is violating the law? And if they're not violating the law, you just don't like it. Well, then there's nothing you can do about it unless you want to start compromising your own values. Remember, gang, this cuts both ways. You, this is why everybody's like, well, look at Donald Trump. You can't put Joe Biden in jail. Yes, you can, but you wouldn't put Joe Biden in jail because he's Joe Biden. You put Joe Biden and his family in jail because they're criminals. Now, I'm not saying they are. I'm saying there should have been an investigation like there would have been on Donald Trump. There should have been an investigation. And if he broke the law, then he and his family should go to jail, but not if he didn't break the law. You don't just make things up, Letitia James. I mean, this is. This is what the left. This is what our friends who are Democrats need to understand. When you have 71% say we should write a law that can put him in prison, you should understand there is an almost 100% chance you have become the fascist. You cannot do that in a free country. All right, More in just a second. First, let me tell you about Lifelock. Remember when having your identity stolen meant somebody pretended to be, you know, you to sneak into a nightclub? Now it means, you know they took out three credit cards, bought a jet ski, filed a tax return in your name, and are currently negotiating a mortgage on a house that you've never seen. Meanwhile, you just got a terrible, terrible and frightening email email saying thanks for your payment. That's what identity theft means now. And you can't protect yourself just by being careful. You can't. That's why you need LifeLock. LifeLock monitors billions of data points working to keep your information safe. And if they find a problem, they have a whole US based team of real people who actually work to fix it and get back on your feet. It's like having a digital guard dog that never sleeps, never eats, and has a black belt in cybersecurity. You do a lot of things with your identity. Losing it to a Russian bot should not be one of the things you like to do, Patriot. I'm sorry, Lifelock. Protect yourself now with Lifelock. Join now. Save up to 40% off your first year with the promo code BECK. Call 1-800-LIFELOCK. 1-800-LIFElock or head to lifelock.com. use the promo code BECK. Save 40% now it's lifelock.com promo code back 10 seconds. Station ID now. I'm just gonna say something. Let's do this. Just a little test. First thing that pops in your mind.

Glenn Beck (108:08)

Okay.

Stu Burguiere (108:08)

When I say these words, headline, Bill Gates accuses Elon Musk of killing children. Wow. That is the first word that came to my mind too. Wow.

Glenn Beck (108:25)

I do feel like we. The. The cage match idea, remember that was going on for a while between. Was it Elon and. And Zuckerberg? I think now the Elon Gates.

Stu Burguiere (108:37)

Cage.

Glenn Beck (108:37)

Match could be the next step in this evolution.

Stu Burguiere (108:40)

My second thought after wow.

Glenn Beck (108:42)

Yeah.

Stu Burguiere (108:43)

Was well, Bill Gates would know about killing children.

Glenn Beck (108:46)

Yeah. Thought that might be where you were going with that.

Stu Burguiere (108:49)

Yeah. Just saying. I mean, he might, he might not, because he may be a very good man that really, really cares and doesn't want to have people die just so he could get the population of Earth a little lower because that would lower the temperature of Earth.

Glenn Beck (109:05)

Was he. Is he.

Stu Burguiere (109:06)

That's what he has said in the past.

Glenn Beck (109:08)

Was it as dad, that was a Planned Parenthood guy. I can't remember the details of that. Do you remember?

Stu Burguiere (109:14)

Yeah, his dad was the head of Planned Parenthood, I think in Seattle or Washington state, something like that.

Glenn Beck (109:20)

Isn't he ending the charity too? Is that accurate?

Stu Burguiere (109:24)

Yeah, Bill and Melinda Gates thing that I don't know. He'll just take all of his money and go do something else.

Glenn Beck (109:29)

What they do here it is foundation to end in 2045. So a little bit. We write it down on your calendar. We got plenty of time to warm up for that one.

Stu Burguiere (109:44)

Golly, that's. That's great. That's great. Trump's funding cuts are unofficially halting government operations. Now, this is being written at the by the Washington Post is a bad thing. I think that's good. I think this is really good. Limits on spending have incapacitated parts of agencies as varied as the National Park Service and the Pentagon. Yeah, the National Park Service. Oh, yeah. I'm very concerned about the national park. Mow a lawn. When you mow the lawn around all of the, you know, monuments, then I'll care about the National Park Service. I'm sorry, did I say that out loud? And. And also the Pentagon. When has the left been concerned about the Pentagon having less control and less power? When. When is that? When does that happen? Apparently, Environmental Protection Agency research at 11 laboratories has ground to a halt. Wow. The EPA, 11. 11 laboratories. Research at 11 laboratories. Not all research. Some research at 11 laboratories has come grinding to a halt at the EPA. Could you get a little more specific with me? I'd like to know what those experiments were before I'm, I'm all, oh, my gosh, I can't believe. Wait a minute. Some scientists have had to stop what they're doing. Hold on. This is Glenn Beck. A listener made this for me and I just got this today. Uno forever in our heart. Something for our. Isn't that nice? Will made this.

Glenn Beck (111:31)

Thanks, Will.

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Stu Burguiere (113:02)

So I am thrilled to have Dr. Jay Bhattacharya on with us. He's from the National Institutes of Health. I want to talk to him about bringing science back into the nih. There was a lab leak and I want to get to that here in a second, but I've got to touch on the news of the day and it's not really his area of expertise, but the president just signed an executive order to, to lower drug costs. Doctor, welcome to the program. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya. Any comment on that as we get started here?

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (113:32)

Sure. It's actually something I studied in a past life when I was a professor. So the difference in prices between the United States and Europe is sharp and alarming, and it's been persistent for decades. The Americans pay sometimes between two to five times, sometimes as high as 10 times the price of the same drug as Europeans do. And you know, as a professor who has a, you know, as a PhD in economics, I'll tell you, when you see persistent price differences like that, that indicates a very unhealthy market. And in this particular case, what it means is that American, American consumers essentially are being taken advantage of. American patients are paying through the nose for drugs that Europeans pay much less for. And the reason is that the European countries will tell drug companies, if you don't lower the drug prices to a very low level just above marginal costs, then we're not going to cover you at all. And what the drug companies have told Americans is that if we don't pay Higher drug prices. There won't be any R and D on drugs. What the President's executive order does is says tells Europeans, look, this is not fair to Americans. This is actually lowering the investment that we ought to be making on R and D for drugs. And so they should be paying prices that are equal to the level that Americans pay. And Americans should be paying much lower prices than we do pay much closer to competitive prices. It's a huge move forward. And now what we'll have to see is what Europeans do and what the drug companies do when to they're starting response. But to me, I've been hearing about this problem for decades. It's the first time seeing a president really take a big step forward to try to address it.

Stu Burguiere (115:19)

I mean, as somebody who is in, you know, research for a very long time, let me. Doesn't the promise of AI, AGI, ASI lessen this whole thing of we need gobs of money to be able to do R and D because that should, should, you know, maybe five years from now begin to do, to cut those costs dramatically to take that chair away from the table or put that chair back into the table, if you will.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (115:49)

Yeah, no, that is actually a quite promising thing. So I mean just to get big, give one example, there's this technology called AlphaFold that allows scientists to much more easily understand how proteins will fold on each fold and as a result hopefully anyways dramatically reduce drug development expenditures. Drug development is always going to be expensive because you still have to run randomized large scale clinical trials and those are going to be expensive. But the initial steps of drug development with AI and as well the clinical trials are going to be much more efficiently run over time. The idea that you need to have trillions of dollars, tens of billions of dollars to develop a single drug we hope will become a thing of the past. In any case, there's no reason why Americans should be shouldering the burden for the whole rest of the world. The developed world should be bearing this burden together.

Stu Burguiere (116:44)

Let me switch. You know, I originally reached out to you because I wanted to talk to you about the HHS halting work at high risk infectious disease labs around the world. And I can't believe this is true, but you tell me. So there was an incident that at a bio lab that apparently what happened is there was a, I don't know, a personal squabble between people and a contractor actually punched a hole in the other person's bio lab suit. I don't know to get them sick or whatever, but it Was. I mean, is that what happened at that biolab? I think it was at Fort Detrick.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (117:31)

That is exactly what happened. Oh, my God. Something I learned. Yeah, it was. It was. I haven't been scared about anything in this job except for that one thing. So I learned about this about three weeks into my. In the job. I've been in the job since the beginning of April. It turns out that there had been a incident a few weeks before. In fact, right before I joined as the NIH director at Fort Detrick. A part of the lab is run by the National Institute of Health and it's a BSL4 lab, which is the highest biosecurity level lab. I mean, the lab, the experiments done there are on some really nasty bugs, I mean, you know, Ebola, a whole bunch of like viruses and pathogens that if it gets out in the population or if it affects lab workers, it's just really quite deadly. What I'd learned was that there had been this incident just a few. Just a couple weeks before I joined as director of the nih, where a lab worker had cut a hole in a biocontainment suit of a fellow worker with the express intention of getting that worker infected if that. And apparently it was over some lovers that. I'm not sure exactly the full details. There's an ongoing investigation of that. What I learned was that not just that this incident had happened, which actually has a threat not just to the worker, but also if that disease gets out. Yeah, I mean, it's just. I mean, I was actually. I mean, I was absolutely livid. And so what I did is I ordered the lab on an operational shutdown, secured all of the vials of the nasty bugs in a safe environment, made sure that the animals were cared for, that they're in the lab, and we're not going to open that up until the safety environment on the lab is absolutely solid. The contractor that was overseeing this I think did a very lax job. What I learned is that this goes back to the Biden administration, that the safety environment in the lab essentially downplayed these kind of security problems if you're going to run experiments on these bugs. And personally, I'm not sold that all of these experiments are worth doing. But in any case, if you're going to run them, you have an absolute responsibility to have zero tolerance for safety problems. The issue here wasn't just a one off thing. It was something that was problematic in the safety culture of this lab, where I don't. I cannot guarantee that if we reopen the lab right now that it would be a safe environment. I won't reopen the lab. I'm sure that's the case.

Stu Burguiere (120:21)

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, shouldn't that person be punished? I mean, that really is attempted murder and maybe even on a mass scale.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (120:32)

I mean, there's an ongoing investigation, so I shouldn't say much more about this. It's one of those things where, like, I was actually actively scared when I first heard.

Stu Burguiere (120:39)

Yeah. I mean, I think Americans are actively scared because none of this stuff should be happening. I mean, we are just. We're just an accident or a stupid move or an intentional leak away from mass death. And, you know, you keep hearing people like Bill Gates say, we're on the verge of another pandemic. Why? Why? I mean, why are we on the verge of another pandemic? Do you think we are?

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (121:08)

I mean, you know, pandemics happen. They've happened all throughout history. The key thing to me, though, Glenn, is we don't want. We don't want to cause one. We don't want to take steps like increase the risk of them. The irony of this past pandemic, the COVID 19 pandemic, is that it was very likely caused by actions aimed at stopping pandemics from happening. There was almost a hubris. I mean, it is hubris. There was this idea, this idea that we could somehow, if we go into the bat caves of China and all the wild places, bring all of those viruses we find there and pathogens that we find there into the lab, catalog them. We can somehow prevent all pandemics from happening, make them more transmissible, more dangerous to humans. We can somehow, as a result of that exercise, make it less likely to have pandemics happening. But of course, what we found out is the opposite is true, that you can't do this kind of work entirely safely. And actually, even if you fully accomplish what was the aim of that research program, which is to go out in the wild places and find the pathogens, you wouldn't protect anybody against the pathogen. Because what would happen is when and if the path outbreak happens, whatever countermeasures you designed for them would already be out of date. Because the evolutionary biology of these viruses is they mutate very rapidly. And so when they got into the population, the countermeasures you prepared for which you never tested any humans very likely would not work.

Stu Burguiere (122:40)

Have we stopped all of the gain of function stuff now? Are you convinced it's done?

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (122:47)

Yeah. So last week, President Trump signed an absolutely historic executive order that said, it puts a pause, a full pause on all gain of function work throughout the government. And we implemented that pause at the nih and I'm sure the rest of the government has done the same. Over the next 90 days, we're going to develop a framework and here's how the framework's going to work. Right? So you have to be a little careful here. Gain of function can mean many things. For instance, insulin is produced via a gain of function exercise. There's no risk of a pandemic being caused by it. But you take a bacteria, E. Coli, you change so they can produce insulin and that's how you produce human insulin. There's a completely safe thing to do. On the other hand, you take a virus, like a virus that has these like, sort of coronavirus like properties, add a furin cleavage site and manipulate it so they can infect human cells more easily. Well, now you have the potential to cause a pandemic. If you're going to do an experiment like that, you, the scientists alone, or the scientists alone should not get to decide whether that risk is worth taking. The public should have a say. The public should be able to say no, that there's no, no matter what knowledge you think you're going to gain from that, that it's not worth the risk of causing a worldwide pandemic that's going to kill 20 million people and cost 25 trillion of dollars or something. And that's exactly what the framework is going to do. It's going to say, if you scientists, if I, the scientist wants to run this project, the public will have a veto over that. Say, no, you're not allowed to do it because it's not worth. Most science won't be affected by this. Most science has no chance of causing pandemic. But any science that does is going to be subject to this, this very, very strict regulatory framework.

Stu Burguiere (124:33)

We're on with Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, who is a hero in my book now the director of the National Institutes of Health. Is an apology good enough for the National Institute of Health? I mean, should anybody go to jail for what has happened? And what is that like to walk into that building when you were, you know, enemy number one to many in that building during the pandemic?

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (124:58)

You know, Glenn, it's been interesting. It's certainly a big turn of fate where I was sort of the subject of devastating takedowns and called all kinds of names by folks who were in this building where I now lead. But at the same time, I found many Many excellent scientists, many people devoted to advancing human knowledge for the benefit of all people. I mean most scientists are like that. They're not trying to like create havoc. And so I've been trying to find allies and I found a lot of allies in the building. You asked what should happen, you know, regarding apologies. I mean to me apologies. I mean I think the key thing I personally, I'm very, very happy to apologize on behalf of American public health to the American people for the failures during COVID But the key thing going forward is reform. How do we change the institution so that it is focused on the health needs of the American people rather than these utopian schemes to like end all pandemics without any heed whatsoever to the risk that they take. Science is very, very powerful kind of idea and institution, but it needs to be focused on real human needs, real particular for the nih, real human health needs. And there have be to to be guardrails so that scientists understand that they operate in the context of public support. We function on taxpayer money. We have to answer the taxpayers. And so that's been the challenge is trying to keep the light of science alive while still reminding scientists that we are not acting just as if we were like independent actors. Like God, we are actors actually beholdings of the American people.

Stu Burguiere (126:44)

Dr. J. Bhattacharya, unfortunately have to take a network break. I would love to have you back for a longer podcast. Thank you, thank you, thank you for everything you did during the COVID nightmare and thank you for standing up so strongly now and congratulations on being our director of the nih.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (127:03)

Thank you, Glenn. So good to talk.

Stu Burguiere (127:04)

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