Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program

Episode: Was the Texas ICE Facility Attack Political Violence?
Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Rob McCoy
Date: September 24, 2025
Podcast Network: Blaze Podcast Network

Episode Overview

This episode is centered around breaking news of an attack at a Dallas, Texas ICE facility, exploring whether the event constitutes political violence. Glenn Beck, joined by Rep. Chip Roy (Texas) and Pastor Rob McCoy, unpacks developing information from the incident, places it in the context of escalating political violence in America and abroad, and warns of cultural, legal, and spiritual decay. The conversation weaves in religious and constitutional themes, urgent calls for a return to principle, and parallel stories from the US, UK, and South Korea.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Texas ICE Facility Attack

• Latest Developments
  • Shooting at a Dallas ICE facility, shooter is dead from self-inflicted wound.
  • Initial confusion about victim identities; clarified to be detainees, not ICE agents, who were killed or injured.[43:26], [68:11]
  • Motive unclear at first, later confirmed as "anti-ICE" through messages engraved on shell casings.[110:36], [114:18]
  • Four injured, two dead among detainees.
• Response to Speculation
  • Beck and team emphasize withholding judgment until facts are confirmed.
  • Both left- and right-wing motives debated, with skepticism on claims of anti-immigrant motives until evidence emerges.[10:52], [11:07]
• Political and Social Implications
  • Attack illustrates trend of increasing political violence.
  • Both Beck and Rep. Roy warn that as rule of law is eroded and law enforcement is undermined, such events become more frequent and dangerous.[69:44]

2. America’s ‘Bermuda Triangle’: Violence, Speech, and Justice

• Glenn Beck’s Framework [45:47]
  • First Side: Political violence—recent assassinations, shootings, and attempts attributed to a societal boiling point.
  • Second Side: Speech control—corporate and governmental censorship, clampdown on politically disfavored views, invoking the example of Jimmy Kimmel and international parallels.
  • Third Side: Uneven justice—perception of a two-tier legal system undermining societal faith in institutions, leading to withdrawal and potential vigilante justice.
• Dangers Explained
  • Suppression of speech intensifies violence by removing peaceful outlets for dissent.
  • Unequal application of law severs trust and unity.
  • Only a return to shared principles—particularly, a refusal to accept political violence as legitimate—can break the downward spiral.
• Calls to Action
  • Return to “core principles” (free speech, equality under the law, rejection of violence) and faith-based morality.
  • Forgiveness and self-regulation as central virtues.
  • “We must sanctify once more the one principle that we all used to have…violence delegitimizes your cause—you are not a legitimate cause if you are backing violence and there cannot be any hedging, there can’t be any excuses.” - Glenn Beck [47:15]

3. International Parallels: Suppression and Persecution

• UK: Katie Hopkins’ Ordeal
  • Interviewed by Beck, Hopkins describes losing her livelihood, home, and contact with her children due to government/legal persecution after being labeled a threat by authorities and NGOs.[30:12]
  • British government sponsored a play titled “The Assassination of Katie Hopkins.”[30:29]
  • “I had got to a point where it was obvious…the only way to protect the children would be to remove yourself in a sort of final way.” - Katie Hopkins [31:53]
• South Korea: Crackdown on Christianity and Activism
  • Pastor Rob McCoy recounts the arrest of Pastor Sohn for resisting government mandates on his megachurch, and the persecution of activists like Mina Kim.[92:22], [95:12]
  • Charlie Kirk had promised to publicize the issue before his death.
  • The new regime is accused of opening borders to Chinese influence, turning anti-American, and suppressing religious leaders and pro-freedom movements.

4. The Principle of Nonviolence

• Historical Models
  • Beck references Gandhi’s hunger strike—denouncing violence even from one's own "side." [117:01]
  • The American founding and biblical teachings as vital models for lawful dissent.
• Absolute Rejection of Political Violence
  • Both left- and right-wing violence condemned unequivocally.
  • “There is no excuse for violence. None.” [112:44]
  • Societies tolerating political killings or speech suppression descend into authoritarianism and civil war.

5. Media Narratives and Misinformation

• Coverage Analysis
  • Observation that Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC shifts coverage depending on the suspected ideology of the shooter.[115:16]
  • Skepticism about early information released by media and calls for careful verification.

6. Faith, Forgiveness, and Personal Responsibility

• Beck’s Spiritual Appeal
  • Emphasis on forgiveness (“I forgive you”) as a daily, conscious commitment to healing divisions.[02:38]
  • “If you don't accept that forgiveness, you can't share that forgiveness. What are you carrying around…?” - Glenn Beck [14:32]
• Role of Churches
  • Lament that many churches fearfully abdicate their social responsibility.
  • “Lead. You're not getting this in your churches. And shame on them. Because our churches are the only ones that—that's their only job. And they're timid. They're afraid. Christ will not recognize you.” - Glenn Beck [51:26]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We must sanctify once more the one principle that we all used to have…violence delegitimizes your cause—you are not a legitimate cause if you are backing violence and there cannot be any hedging, there can’t be any excuses.”
  — Glenn Beck [47:15]

• “So when the President declares Antifa a terrorist organization, he is correct to do so because they are radicalized and undermining freedom, undermining the rule of law. Go take them out…Go follow the money to Soros.”
  — Rep. Chip Roy [73:56]

• “I had got to a point where it was obvious…that the only way to protect the children would be to remove yourself in a sort of final way. And I did leave my house to do that one day because a mother's duty is to protect her cubs. And lovely Mark found me and stopped me.”
  — Katie Hopkins [31:53]

• “If you don't foster having the Holy Spirit guide your every step, your every action, your every word, every day. If you're not doubling down on your faith right now, you will not make it. You will be lost in the fog of this Bermuda Triangle.”
  — Glenn Beck [49:31]

• “If ever violence comes from our side, you denounce it. Denounce it just as strongly as you denounce it on the right, on the left, denounce it. There is no place for this.”
  — Glenn Beck [117:39]

• “You are, you are breaking down our civilization and our society. This violence must stop.”
  — Glenn Beck [70:44]

• “Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.”
  — Rob McCoy quoting Jonathan Mayhew [97:19]

Important Segments & Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Highlight | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:38 | Glenn Beck introduces “I forgive you” as critical ethic | | 10:10 | Stu Burguiere: First updates and skepticism on the shooting| | 43:26 | Update on ICE shooting: emerging details, Beck urges caution| | 45:47 | Beck introduces America’s “Bermuda Triangle” concept | | 68:11 | Rep. Chip Roy reports on shooting; dissects policy context | | 70:44 | Beck/Roy: Societal breakdown, solutions, law enforcement | | 92:22 | Pastor Rob McCoy: The South Korea case | | 110:36 | New evidence: “Anti-ICE” shell casings, confirming motive | | 117:01 | Gandhi’s hunger strike as a model for rejecting violence | | 51:26 | Beck's rebuke of modern churches’ silence | | 30:12 | Katie Hopkins: Personal cost of political persecution |

Takeaways for Listeners

• The ICE attack exemplifies both the rise of political violence and the confusion sown by early, shifting narratives.
• Glenn Beck urges absolute nonviolence and principled opposition to both speech suppression and justice system inequality.
• International anecdotes reveal that suppression of dissent and religious persecution aren’t limited to “enemy states” but are emerging in Western democracies as well.
• A spiritual, faith-based resurgence—and individual responsibility for forgiveness, honesty, and resistance to violence—is presented as America’s only path out of crisis.
• Listeners are called to live heroically and peacefully, confronting extremism in all forms, starting in their own families and communities.

For Further Discussion

• What is the ethical and civic responsibility for citizens during increasing political violence?
• How can Americans build bridges and restore core societal principles?
• What steps can individuals take to promote civil discourse and reject extremism?
• How can lessons from international incidents inform America’s defense of freedom?

For donations supporting South Korean activists: mercury1.org (Reference: Charlie Kirk or South Korea)

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