Was the Texas ICE Facility Attack Political Violence? | Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Rob McCoy | 9/24/25

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program

Episode: Was the Texas ICE Facility Attack Political Violence?
Guests: Rep. Chip Roy & Rob McCoy
Date: September 24, 2025
Podcast Network: Blaze Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode is centered around breaking news of an attack at a Dallas, Texas ICE facility, exploring whether the event constitutes political violence. Glenn Beck, joined by Rep. Chip Roy (Texas) and Pastor Rob McCoy, unpacks developing information from the incident, places it in the context of escalating political violence in America and abroad, and warns of cultural, legal, and spiritual decay. The conversation weaves in religious and constitutional themes, urgent calls for a return to principle, and parallel stories from the US, UK, and South Korea.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Texas ICE Facility Attack

• Latest Developments
  • Shooting at a Dallas ICE facility, shooter is dead from self-inflicted wound.
  • Initial confusion about victim identities; clarified to be detainees, not ICE agents, who were killed or injured.[43:26], [68:11]
  • Motive unclear at first, later confirmed as "anti-ICE" through messages engraved on shell casings.[110:36], [114:18]
  • Four injured, two dead among detainees.
• Response to Speculation
  • Beck and team emphasize withholding judgment until facts are confirmed.
  • Both left- and right-wing motives debated, with skepticism on claims of anti-immigrant motives until evidence emerges.[10:52], [11:07]
• Political and Social Implications
  • Attack illustrates trend of increasing political violence.
  • Both Beck and Rep. Roy warn that as rule of law is eroded and law enforcement is undermined, such events become more frequent and dangerous.[69:44]

2. America’s ‘Bermuda Triangle’: Violence, Speech, and Justice

• Glenn Beck’s Framework [45:47]
  • First Side: Political violence—recent assassinations, shootings, and attempts attributed to a societal boiling point.
  • Second Side: Speech control—corporate and governmental censorship, clampdown on politically disfavored views, invoking the example of Jimmy Kimmel and international parallels.
  • Third Side: Uneven justice—perception of a two-tier legal system undermining societal faith in institutions, leading to withdrawal and potential vigilante justice.
• Dangers Explained
  • Suppression of speech intensifies violence by removing peaceful outlets for dissent.
  • Unequal application of law severs trust and unity.
  • Only a return to shared principles—particularly, a refusal to accept political violence as legitimate—can break the downward spiral.
• Calls to Action
  • Return to “core principles” (free speech, equality under the law, rejection of violence) and faith-based morality.
  • Forgiveness and self-regulation as central virtues.
  • “We must sanctify once more the one principle that we all used to have…violence delegitimizes your cause—you are not a legitimate cause if you are backing violence and there cannot be any hedging, there can’t be any excuses.” - Glenn Beck [47:15]

3. International Parallels: Suppression and Persecution

• UK: Katie Hopkins’ Ordeal
  • Interviewed by Beck, Hopkins describes losing her livelihood, home, and contact with her children due to government/legal persecution after being labeled a threat by authorities and NGOs.[30:12]
  • British government sponsored a play titled “The Assassination of Katie Hopkins.”[30:29]
  • “I had got to a point where it was obvious…the only way to protect the children would be to remove yourself in a sort of final way.” - Katie Hopkins [31:53]
• South Korea: Crackdown on Christianity and Activism
  • Pastor Rob McCoy recounts the arrest of Pastor Sohn for resisting government mandates on his megachurch, and the persecution of activists like Mina Kim.[92:22], [95:12]
  • Charlie Kirk had promised to publicize the issue before his death.
  • The new regime is accused of opening borders to Chinese influence, turning anti-American, and suppressing religious leaders and pro-freedom movements.

4. The Principle of Nonviolence

• Historical Models
  • Beck references Gandhi’s hunger strike—denouncing violence even from one's own "side." [117:01]
  • The American founding and biblical teachings as vital models for lawful dissent.
• Absolute Rejection of Political Violence
  • Both left- and right-wing violence condemned unequivocally.
  • “There is no excuse for violence. None.” [112:44]
  • Societies tolerating political killings or speech suppression descend into authoritarianism and civil war.

5. Media Narratives and Misinformation

• Coverage Analysis
  • Observation that Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC shifts coverage depending on the suspected ideology of the shooter.[115:16]
  • Skepticism about early information released by media and calls for careful verification.

6. Faith, Forgiveness, and Personal Responsibility

• Beck’s Spiritual Appeal
  • Emphasis on forgiveness (“I forgive you”) as a daily, conscious commitment to healing divisions.[02:38]
  • “If you don't accept that forgiveness, you can't share that forgiveness. What are you carrying around…?” - Glenn Beck [14:32]
• Role of Churches
  • Lament that many churches fearfully abdicate their social responsibility.
  • “Lead. You're not getting this in your churches. And shame on them. Because our churches are the only ones that—that's their only job. And they're timid. They're afraid. Christ will not recognize you.” - Glenn Beck [51:26]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We must sanctify once more the one principle that we all used to have…violence delegitimizes your cause—you are not a legitimate cause if you are backing violence and there cannot be any hedging, there can’t be any excuses.”
  — Glenn Beck [47:15]

• “So when the President declares Antifa a terrorist organization, he is correct to do so because they are radicalized and undermining freedom, undermining the rule of law. Go take them out…Go follow the money to Soros.”
  — Rep. Chip Roy [73:56]

• “I had got to a point where it was obvious…that the only way to protect the children would be to remove yourself in a sort of final way. And I did leave my house to do that one day because a mother's duty is to protect her cubs. And lovely Mark found me and stopped me.”
  — Katie Hopkins [31:53]

• “If you don't foster having the Holy Spirit guide your every step, your every action, your every word, every day. If you're not doubling down on your faith right now, you will not make it. You will be lost in the fog of this Bermuda Triangle.”
  — Glenn Beck [49:31]

• “If ever violence comes from our side, you denounce it. Denounce it just as strongly as you denounce it on the right, on the left, denounce it. There is no place for this.”
  — Glenn Beck [117:39]

• “You are, you are breaking down our civilization and our society. This violence must stop.”
  — Glenn Beck [70:44]

• “Disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God.”
  — Rob McCoy quoting Jonathan Mayhew [97:19]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Highlight | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:38 | Glenn Beck introduces “I forgive you” as critical ethic | | 10:10 | Stu Burguiere: First updates and skepticism on the shooting| | 43:26 | Update on ICE shooting: emerging details, Beck urges caution| | 45:47 | Beck introduces America’s “Bermuda Triangle” concept | | 68:11 | Rep. Chip Roy reports on shooting; dissects policy context | | 70:44 | Beck/Roy: Societal breakdown, solutions, law enforcement | | 92:22 | Pastor Rob McCoy: The South Korea case | | 110:36 | New evidence: “Anti-ICE” shell casings, confirming motive | | 117:01 | Gandhi’s hunger strike as a model for rejecting violence | | 51:26 | Beck's rebuke of modern churches’ silence | | 30:12 | Katie Hopkins: Personal cost of political persecution |

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The ICE attack exemplifies both the rise of political violence and the confusion sown by early, shifting narratives.
• Glenn Beck urges absolute nonviolence and principled opposition to both speech suppression and justice system inequality.
• International anecdotes reveal that suppression of dissent and religious persecution aren’t limited to “enemy states” but are emerging in Western democracies as well.
• A spiritual, faith-based resurgence—and individual responsibility for forgiveness, honesty, and resistance to violence—is presented as America’s only path out of crisis.
• Listeners are called to live heroically and peacefully, confronting extremism in all forms, starting in their own families and communities.

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For Further Discussion

• What is the ethical and civic responsibility for citizens during increasing political violence?
• How can Americans build bridges and restore core societal principles?
• What steps can individuals take to promote civil discourse and reject extremism?
• How can lessons from international incidents inform America’s defense of freedom?

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For donations supporting South Korean activists: mercury1.org (Reference: Charlie Kirk or South Korea)

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This summary encapsulates the episode’s themes and arguments, accurately attributing key quotes and concepts while helping those who haven’t listened understand the flow, stakes, and philosophies of the discussion.

Transcript

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Chip Roy]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Rob McCoy]

Down the road where shadows hide.

[Chip Roy]

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[Glenn Beck]

Face the dark and embrace the fire. The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello America. There is some breaking news and it's not good, but I want to start with this, the three most important words that we all need to practice every day or we do not survive. And we do not say it in weakness, we say it in strength. We say it with the full armor of God on. Here are the three words I forgive you. That has massive ramifications and it goes deep into our families. Not just killers, but people that we have split with. We haven't talked to and maybe it's not even our fault. I forgive you. I want to talk to you about that if we have time today. But there are so many things that are going on right now. I am. I'm usually right in direction. I am not always good on timing, although the timing that I said assassinations would come, I said that was going to happen in 2018 or 2019. So I was wrong on that timing. Here they are. And I warn you, we are not done with assassinations. We are not done. We are entering a new period. I told you on Monday that we have seen the left behave themselves for the last 10 days after Charlie Kirk, now that his memorial was done, the mask is coming off and this is going to get much, much worse. It just has in Texas. I'll tell you that story in 60 seconds. First chapter it's that time of year again when your mailbox turns into a war zone. Postcards from insurance companies, envelopes mark urgent and your phone starts buzzing with call from strangers wanting to sell you a Medicare plan. Look, I get it. Medicare is confusing. Plans change, rules shift. What worked last year may not work next year. But that's why I want to, I want to tell you, I want to urge you to call chapter they are not trying to sell you something. 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And my whole staff has been on it, trying to get answers. We are on the phone with our friends in Washington, but it is extraordinarily fluid. There has been an attack on ICE facilities here in Dallas, Texas. We don't know. We know that three were shot. Let me just. Again, we don't know anything yet. Three were shot. Word is that several are critically injured. There may have been deaths. We know there is one death for sure and that is the sniper or the shooter. He died from a self inflicted gunshot. I want to get in, write that down. I want to get into that. That's just evil. That is just, that is, I'm telling you, a lot of this I think is possession. I really do. You know, Satan's used, He's done with you, you've done your usefulness. Come home to me. And they turn the gun on themselves and shoot themselves. It's just, it's just a pattern. But anyway, we don't know what is happening yet. I don't want to get over our skis and say it was this group or this group. You know, the left is now saying, you know, they're coming out claiming it was a white male shooting at immigrants, not agents. Don't know if that is true. Find that hard to believe, but it could be true. In today's screwed up world, um, two ICE detainees were killed, so that is not good. And they were shooting into the ICE facility where the detainees are kept. So again, we don't know. Here's what we do know. The world has gone mad. We are the best of all the nations in the West. For as dark as things are getting, when I tell you what's happening in England today and then I tell you what's happening in South Korea, I think South Korea is the model that they're going, they're going for to collapse us. So you need to understand what's happening in South Korea. I didn't really understand what was happening in South Korea until I had a South Korea woman sitting in my office yesterday. She was, you know when they had the vigil for Charlie Kirk in South Korea is because she brought Charlie Kirk over and tried to explain to him what was going on. He had just left South Korea and he said, I'm going to make everybody in America needs to know this. I'm going to make your story very, very famous. Be careful. He took a picture with the people that he was with. I'm going to explain all this because they were afraid that they were going to go to prison. Even just for talking to Charlie Kirk. The reason why Charlie didn't talk about it is he was killed before he had a chance. They came to us yesterday and I told them I will pick that up happily for Charlie. And we're going to expose it today and it is going to be a long road. I'm hoping if I don't make things worse by doing this, I'm hoping to go to South Korea. But when you understand the story, that may make things worse. So I don't know yet. You just need to know what's going on because I just, my gut tells me that's the playbook on what's happening here and I'll explain that more. What else do we know about this do. What else, what other news do we know so far?

[Stu Burguiere]

It's very difficult obviously to suss out what is going on. We do know shooter is dead. At least there were some reports of them looking for multiple shooters. We have no confirmation as to whether that's actually true. They're now saying at least four to five people wounded, three of them in critical condition. Again, you mentioned sort of what people are saying happened. There was one official that was, I think it was talking on Fox News, talking about how they don't know, they don't think any of their agents were down. And then we're seeing reports now potentially that the, maybe the immigrant detainees were the target of this.

[Glenn Beck]

Doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry, but that just does not ring true. And here's why. Why would you do that? I've not heard any outcry to kill the illegals. Not, not a single one.

[Stu Burguiere]

God, no, I hope not.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, right. That seems so far. You know, the way I could believe that is somebody and Antifa is trying to make it look like that. Yeah, I mean, but there, you know, you know, there's always, there's always crazy people. There's always crazy.

[Stu Burguiere]

Can't account for that.

[Glenn Beck]

I, I know that, but that's not a trend. If that's true, that's not a trend. That is an anomaly. That is, it's just too weird to happen. Especially, you know, I mean, Donald Trump was being, you know, hammered yesterday for hammering Elon Omar. He said she's spreading vile lies against ice. You know, she was responding to a report from a family of a Guatemalan man who was being sought Tuesday by ICE agents and the family, and she claimed that the agents held this guy's autistic 5 year old daughter out as bait to try to coax him out of his home. And so they're just making ice, just like stormtroopers. And that's not who they are. That's not what's going on. And what's going to happen is, look, we're reaching a really bad place where decisions are going to have to be made, and we're not going to like any of them. Michael Snyder wrote this. This great piece that was about the collapsing and how America is reaching this boiling point. And he said, the left deeply hates the right, the right deeply hates the left. But how is a bitterly divided nation supposed to thrive? How's it supposed to even survive? Those that founded this country shared a common set of core values. But today, there are no core values that still unite because the core values that our founders believed in so strongly have been abandoned. In fact, in so many ways, America is now the complete opposite of what our founders intended. Listen, just. I just want to. I want you to listen to a couple of things. On the day that we're starting the show, ICE facilities are attacked again. Shooters again. A man in New Hampshire was arrested and went to trial yesterday. He was threatening to use homemade pipe bombs to assassinate Governor Kelly Iot, who is a Republican. New Hampshire. New Hampshire man arrested after allegedly plotting to assassinate the state's Republican governor with a weapon of mass destruction. According to investigators, Anderson made the chilling threats to his roommate on Snapchat, bragging about his plan, showing off the materials he intended on using. Um, then we have a crazed leftist in Oberlin College boldly proclaiming, we need to bring back political assassinations. Now, this person called for political assassinations to continue in the wake of Charlie Kirk last week. We need to bring back political assassinations. Who is this person? Julia Zhu Xu. She's in her social media post. She said, I don't feel bad. And I think. And I don't think everyone deserves the right to free speech. Some people should be afraid to express their opinion in public. You remember I played that audio for you yesterday where somebody else was saying the exact same thing. You should be afraid to speak your point of view. That is not an American principle. The reason why. He's right, the reason why we are falling apart is we have no principles in common anymore. Everyone is talking about the Bill of Rights, but how many people actually believe in the Bill of Rights? How many people believe you have a right to freedom of speech? And the only speech that needs to be protected is the speech that everyone despises or you despise? You do not shut speech down in a free Society. The minute you do that, you are no longer a free society. And I've got a lot of stuff Jimmy Kimmel to say about that today. But we must get back to our core principles, the things that we all used to find self evident. That God is endowing his created beings with certain rights. And governments are instituted among men to protect those rights. And we are to rule ourselves. But our society doesn't function. If you don't choose to rule yourself, if you choose to tune out, if you choose not to regulate yourself, if you choose not to find something of a higher purpose than yourself or your grievance, then this system doesn't work and you need a dictatorship. You will get the kind of king you deserve. There is no king in my life. It's not Donald Trump. It's the only king I have is Christ. That's it. There is no king but Christ. He dictates my values. He is. I try to pull him in as close to me as possible. I try to be better every day because of him. Not because of the law, but because his law demands it of me. His mercy, his grace has been such a gift in my life. I want to be more like him. That's what motivated people in America. I forgive you is what he said to us, what he says to you every day. If you don't accept that forgiveness, you can't share that forgiveness. What are you carrying around in you that you're like, I'm just such a bad guy. I just did this, I did that. Let him say, I forgive you. Confess to him. He loves you. He's your dad. And anybody who is a dad knows any good dad. I'll say, I'll tell my kids, it doesn't matter what you did. It doesn't matter what you did. If you did something horrible, I'll visit you in prison. But I will be there for you because I love you. Just be honest with yourself. Just take responsibility for what you did and then stop doing those things. That's a good dad. That's who he is. He is begging you, please take my forgiveness so you can offer it to others. Otherwise we harden our hearts. Otherwise we start wanting vengeance, envy, all of the bad, the seven deadly sins. All of those things grow inside of us. By the way, this student that was saying that, you know, you don't have a right to free speech, she said that she was influenced by her learnings about Chairman Mao because she believes in the Chinese leaders authoritarianism. She was in her class, Revolution, socialism and reform in China. That's what you're getting in your university. Pull your kids out of the university. Get your kids out of the universities. There's more. We'll get to it here in just a second. 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[Glenn Beck]

You know, I want to talk to you about freedom of speech. First of all, the, the, the Jimmy Kimmel ban is so ridiculous on so many levels, and they are just using this to make Donald Trump look like a fascist. And I'll explain why that's important a little later on in the program today. But, you know, I had, I remember when I first started the show, and if you started with me early on, you know, I have changed a lot. I was early baptized. I was just in my faith. I was really early and maybe two months. And before that I was a, I mean, I was an alcoholic, lived hard, and I had the mouth of, I mean, it was not, it was just not, it was a smorgasbord of profanities that would come out of my mouth all the time. All the time. And so I, you know, when I was on the air, I didn't use, you know, f words and things like that, obviously, but I did use the Lord's name in vain a lot. And, you know, again, I was trying to get better, but I had a lot to clean up in my life. And, and so I get on the air and we're trying to build the show, and Premier Radio comes to me and they said, glenn, we just want you to know you have a lot of affiliates in the south in particular, that would love to carry the show or are carrying the show, but they're going to drop you because they're getting too many complaints from people that you're using the Lord's name in vain. And I'm like, I got to work on that. They're like, well, you have to decide. You're either going to stop it or, and we're fine either way, or you're going to just keep doing that because that's who you are. But you need to make the decision now because you're going to lose the affiliates. And we just want to let you know, that's what that is going to cost you, that choice. Well, I wanted to stop in the first place, but I also didn't want to, you know, end my show. And so I, you know, I quadrupled my efforts to stop that. That's exactly how ABC should have handled this. And I think they probably did with Jimmy Kimmel. They went to him and said, or should have, you know, look, these are all affiliates in small towns. These are all ABC affiliates in small towns. And, you know, this isn't New York and la, you know, and Chicago and Detroit. These are small towns all across the country. And they don't agree with you, and they're not watching you as it is. But you have just opened up a huge wound on this Charlie Kirk thing. All you have to do is go in and apologize. Just stay away from Charlie Kirk. That's all you have to do. Otherwise, you're going to lose these affiliates. But your decision, Jimmy, he made his decision. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not going to apologize, and I'm going to double down. One of the affiliates said, we're out. We're out. Okay, so how is that freedom of. How is that a violation of freedom of speech? That was his choice to do that. And the affiliates, that was their choice to say, we're not going to carry that show anymore. Now, that is. That's not going to last, or they'll lose the whole network, which they don't want to do. So it's a game of chicken, I guess, unless they can. Unless they replace it with local news. I think you can replace a show with local programming and not take a specific show, but, you know, that's their right to do that. Let me tell you what real freedom of speech and violation of real freedom of speech is. Told you yesterday about Katie Hopkins and how she was dragged in because somebody said they were offended or they felt that there. There might be offense taken because she said something about her epilepsy. She has bad epilepsy, had parts of her brain removed so she could control the epilepsy. And she was talking about it and joking about hers. And somebody who had joined her podcast heard her make this joke about Epsom. Epilepsy was like, I. I'm. There might be some offense taken to that. Turned her into the police. She had to go. She was interrogated. They talked about throwing her in jail. If she talked about that, she was called into the police, she would go to jail. Well, she talked about it on my show. I played that for you yesterday. And I told you yesterday, that's just the half of it. I want you to hear how this woman was. Was politically, figuratively assassinated. I don't think I have heard of persecution worse than this. And she told me off the air, I said, how did you deal with this? And she said, glenn, the biggest part was everyone cheered for it. Everyone. It was like I was a Christian in the lion's den in the Roman Coliseum. They cheered it. I want you to listen to what she said about what happened to her and her children.

[Katie Hopkins]

For when I was a threat to my own children, I didn't get to be in their lives very much. We had to take them away from me. We changed.

[Glenn Beck]

What does that mean, you were a threat to your own children?

[Katie Hopkins]

So at the point when I was the most hated and I had the biggest voice, and it was decided by powerful organizations, political groups and religious organizations that I would be destroyed. That destruction was universal. So it was my jobs, all of them, lawfare, that I'd caused you. Today, you could say you perceived I seriously harmed you with my speech. You can sue me. And they all lined up and did so. They bankrupted me and I lost our home. And then the British government did a play called the Assassination of Katie Hopkins. There's posters that went up around the country. And then my children repeatedly were reported to social services, the kind of care services as that I abused them and that people had seen me abusing them and they were little then and they had to be interviewed separately about whether they had been abused. And I had got to a point where it was obvious to any rational individual that the only way to protect the children would be to remove yourself in a sort of final way. And I did leave my house to do that one day because a mother's duty is to protect her cubs. And lovely Mark found me and stopped me. And he then took the children and took them away.

[Glenn Beck]

He.

[Katie Hopkins]

Together. I mean, we worked together. He didn't take them from me. He took them away to safety. He changed all of their names. None of them have the same name as each other. And then he took them to a new place and put them under a new address that I have no part, I own nothing. And then. And then I left to America. And then I never went to any of their schools. Not one day.

[Glenn Beck]

How, how, how, as a mother, did you. How do you process this? I'm surprised you're standing.

[Katie Hopkins]

I have sparkles on. So all is well because it was a while ago and America took me in and let me be on its roads and its sidewalks and its clubs and republican events. And it made me realize I was a good person. I thought I was. And America rehabilitated me with its patriots. And now the world gave me back my voice. The world's done a 180 and I now can speak again. And the thing to return to where we were about why I have such faith in young people is that universities no longer matter. I totally accept the elite universities here. Amazing. And the. Yeah, no, but, you know, I so see, like if you play football here, that really matters, and that's amazing. But other. Other unis are unis. It's over. My kids, without my say so, having missed much of their lives. They are 21, farmer. She's tough bird. She can drive a tractor. She has 250 head of cattle that she runs. In fact, she'd like to come out to Texas and be a farmer here. I'm very keen for her to marry.

[Glenn Beck]

American.

[Katie Hopkins]

Yes. Then my next daughter, 20 years old, she's gone into the hospital as a nurse. She cares for dementia patients, never went to college. My son, who's 17 and 6 foot 4, is a mechanic, is an apprentice at a garage, will never go to uni. And I see that playing out time after time after time. Kids choosing a different route. Maybe they'll do some uni, maybe they'll do some learning, but they are not going to be on campus to get themselves into massive debt, to be indoctrinated by people who look like those weirdos on campus.

[Glenn Beck]

I want to. She and I talked to her about this off air and I didn't go back to it because I didn't want to pry. I didn't know this story. No, I don't think anybody really knows this story. But you'll notice when she said I have sparkles on, she cut that conversation because it was becoming way too painful for her. I have never heard of. I mean, what my family went through. But I didn't have to give up my children. My mother was an alcoholic. My mother believed that. That her children would be better without her. There wasn't anyone to save her. We were not better without my mother. Here's a woman who, through society, through the left, through the government. Imagine the government paying for a play called the assassination of you. Imagine what your family is going through. You lose the house, you lose the job. You are. She said I was one of the more popular people in England. And then because I was speaking out differently, I became the most hated person. She's like, I was despised. I couldn't go anywhere. That's not freedom. That didn't happen organically. It did not happen organically. That kind of witch burning happened because of the collusion of NGOs and a government. That's what happened. Imagine because we were headed this way. Thank God, for the last few years, we have turned this around, but it's coming. It's all over the world. And if we blink, it's over. Imagine living in a society that's one step away from China gang, where they will take your children away. They voluntarily moved their children, changed their children's name, had them grow up with different parents. She had no contact with her children until they were of age and they were set in life and until things started to turn around. Imagine you've been so persecuted by your so called free country that you have to give your children up because it's the only right thing to do. Because you. Because society will destroy them. Because they've already taken everything else that matters from you. And so get the children. I. I tell you, I've always thought she was funny. She's, you know, she's got a, you know, tough sense of humor. But I've always thought she was funny. But I think she is. I think she's a hero. I think she is a hero. What mother could do that? And what society would cheer it on? The British elites, the government under the direction of the new king. The government that is afraid of their own citizens, not the good English citizens. They are afraid of the Muslim Sharia law citizens. And it's happening everywhere. Don't talk to me about Jimmy Kimmel. Let's talk about Katie Hopkins. I'm going to let you chew on that for about an hour. And then I'm going to tell you what's happening in South Korea. It's worse. And it's all directed to us and your freedom of speech. Imagine you're driving through a new city. All of a sudden your GPS says turn left. So you do. Except now you're in a construction zone. There's confusing signs everywhere. No shoulder, no U turns, just orange cones and lots of regret. Buying or selling a house without the right agent, that's kind of what it feels like. You know, you thought you knew what you were doing, but suddenly the listing stalled, the paperwork's a mess. The great deal you were promised looks a lot less impressive under the fluorescent lights of the closing table. And you're like, what just happened? This is why I created, with my brother, real estate agents I trust. We did it about 10 years ago. We've done billions of dollars now of business for helping people buy and sell homes. We help you find not just someone. We help you find the pro that has been vetted, tested and proven. Somebody who knows the turns ahead. Expertise, negotiation skills, Track records that stretch across market cycles. Not just hot streaks and people that listen to you and have the same values. I think all of these real estate agents, one of the first questions we ask are, do you listen to Glenn Beck? I'm a big fan. Because that is Our first gauge. Do they have the same kind of values that you do? Will you relate to them? In a market where one wrong move can cost you thousands, you don't need a tourist. You need a guide who's been through this territory a thousand times. It's realestate agentsitrust.com that's realestate agentsitrust.Com you know, the left's got a road map straight off a cliff. Let's take the right trail. Glenn Beck returns shortly.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

The White House is mine.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

At least three people have been shot at a Dallas ICE facility. It happened about an hour and a half ago. We still don't have all of the details. Do you have any more information on this?

[Stu Burguiere]

You know, multiple places are now saying that it was detainees that were targeted. So people who were coming into the ICE facility after being, I guess, picked up for various things and it was not the agents. So if that is true, you know, again, we want to make sure we understand the entire story before jumping into any conclusion. Unlike what you saw on the left over the past few weeks. We'll make sure we know the details. That is what they are reporting at this point. But still, we're still pretty early.

[Glenn Beck]

Things in me says there's something wrong with that. I don't know. There's a lot wrong with it. Yeah, no, I know, but I just, I don't. I mean, we have to be really careful with this. We have to be really careful because we really don't know. Don't buy any narrow heritage yet. This is Glenn Beck. Let me talk to you a little bit about Good Ranchers. Good Ranchers has completely changed how I buy meat. This is not grocery store guesswork. It's high quality American raised beef and chicken and pork delivered right to my door. Every cut is raised right here in the US and not some, you know, random imported that has been slapped with the sticker that says product of the usa. The flavor is outstanding, the convenience unbeatable. It's Good Ranchers. Good Ranchers. I trust them. I love the food. Never looked back, please. If you care about the quality of where your meat comes from, if you care about supporting our local ranches and farms, they're giving away a Thanksgiving ham every single week just for. Posting a photo of your Thursday night dinner on Instagram, use the hashtag hashtag backtothetable and tag Good Ranchers. Thousands of listeners have already made the switch to Good Ranchers. And once you experience the quality and convenience it and the meaning it brings back to mealtime, you'll understand why. Goodranchers.com start your subscription, shop America's Best Meat and use the promo code GLENN. You get $40 off plus free meat for life. It's goodranchers.com promo code GLENN. $40 off free meat.

[Rob McCoy]

Sam. Down the road where shadows hide Feel.

[Chip Roy]

The dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark Gotta face the dark and embrace the fire.

[Glenn Beck]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Becky program. Today there's a lot going on and Jimmy Kimmel is the least of the problems. Freedom of speech is under attack and so are some other things that are about to come under attack. And I want to have a discussion on. So what do you do? What do you do about the world we are creating right now? We'll talk about that coming up in just a second. First, let me tell you about Simplisafe. Vietnamese write down everything in your house. Every object, everything with a memory attached to it. Every single individual piece of your property. How long would it take? You know, there's the obvious stuff. Tv, laptop, furniture. But then there's a drawer of photos. Your grandfather, your grandfather's watch. The letter you never sent. The keepsakes, the files, the pictures. All the things that are could be destroyed or just gone. And that's the thing about burglary. 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And if we do not have the spirit with us, if we are not policing our own selves right now, if we are not paying attention, we are going to get lost in this Bermuda Triangle. And perhaps the whole ship of America will get lost here. But we are now in the Bermuda Triangle, this Triangle. One side of it is political violence. We have seen the unthinkable over the last few days. The assassination of Charlie Kirk, attempts on a former president, President's life. The casual whispers that bloodshed is somehow or another inevitable and good and right and righteous. We have. We have the shooting today. Multiple rounds from an elevated position into the entryway of ice. We don't know who did it yet. We don't know their motivation. But three people, critical condition. The shooter is now dead. Self inflicted gunshot wound. We don't know. But this is going to happen more and more. And our streets are out of control. Now, on the second side of this triangle is speech control. Governments, corporations, international bodies working in tandem. NGOs to decide what can be said, what has to be silenced, and who's allowed to stand in the public square. And they'll tell us it's all for our public safety. Okay, that's what happened. Last time under Biden, it was all for our safety. It wasn't for our safety. We find out now that the FBI was working with an ngo, a pro abortion NGO that was helping them identify people that they thought should go to jail. It's never been done before in American history that we are aware of at least. And there's going to be. It's be met by a big yawn. Google yesterday reinstating people that they were told had to get off line. And again, nobody's really reporting it. This freedom of speech stuff, censorship, it's happening and it doesn't pacify violence, it fertilizes it. When dissent can't be spoken, it festers in the dark. That's why you can't ever shut down speech. It's better to hear people know where they come from, try to understand it the best you can and then police it the best you can in your own life. But you don't want to. I want to know who the bad guys are. I want to know who believes in communism and who doesn't. Not because I'm going to do something about it just so I can, I can understand. That's a person I don't trust. Okay. All of this stuff is done in darkness. Okay. They have been persecuting the right forever. But when their persecution, they've been picking at this scab on us for 20 years. For 20 years they've been trying to get you to strike out and you won't. And so what do they do? They have to persecute you even more. And because we haven't stood up and slapped them down in the violent way that they want, they have to become violent because it's the only, that's the only thing left to them now is violence. I told you this a couple years ago that, but assassinations were on the way. It was the only thing the left had left. That and absolute revolution in the streets all across America. And it's, it's here now. We are in this Bermuda Triangle. So you. The first side of this triangle is political violence. The second side is speech control. And that is happening especially in all Western countries. It would be much worse here if we would have not won this election. But I want to bring up freedom of speech and you know, our, our, you know, possible coming police state. I don't even know how do you with, with people not understanding basic rights like freedom of speech, with people turning everything inside out so we no longer have the Bill of Rights as our common, our common denominator that we all understand that we are created and given these rights by God that no one can take away. How do you hold a society together? Especially if that society is becoming so immoral and so dark? They just kill people, Just kill them. You have a right to kill them. You disagree with them, what do you do with that? Okay, so what's the third side? The third side is justice. That appears uneven. One set of rules for this group, another set of rules for that group. Prosecutions here, immunity over there. Even if the facts are complicated. The perception of a two tier justice system will break the backbone of a free society every single time because people will lose faith in the system and they no longer believe that the system will hear them fairly. So they stop knocking at the doors and then you get the Bubba effect. So you've got two sides. You have one side whose intent is to collapse the United States of America. It is to have revolution. And they have conned a great number of our citizens into believing that that's the right thing and that they're not the bad guys, that they're not the fascist. The other side is, the other side is, is doing everything they can to not be violent and to say, I forgive you, I forgive you. I forgive you. I'm not going to engage like that. I will keep, I will keep my first citizenship to the kingdom of God while I protect my second citizenship. I will not act out of line. That's what you saw with Charlie Kirk. I will not respond in kind, but both sides, one is the agitator, one is the agitated. And if we give up that role that we're playing right now, it's over. It's over. So what do you do? What, what is the possible solution here? The only solution that I see is that we step out of this loop. And the best way to do that, something that everyone must do, we must sanctify once more the one principle that we all used to have as a very bottom line. I mean, this is the lowest hurdle that violence, deli, delegitimization, your cause, you are not legitimate cause. If you are backing violence and there cannot be any hedging, there can't be any excuses. We defend free speech, even for those we despise, because it's the last relief valve before chaos. We demand equal justice under the law, not as a favor, but as a minimum condition of a free people. And when I say I want justice under the law equally, I don't mean, I don't mean some social justice, I mean actual justice. I want that. I want justice to be blindfolded again. I don't care how you vote. I don't care what your color is. I don't care what you do, what you believe. The law is the law. And I want a fair constitutional trial for every single person. And if we can't get back to that, if we can't say there is no place for violence. No ifs, ands, buts, no excuses, nothing, Nothing. There is nothing that follows what happened today with ice. If that was somebody on the left that's trying to put out ICE out of business, or if that's somebody on the right who's. Who's sick and tired of, you know, illegals. You know, maybe they had their son or daughter killed or whatever by an illegal. You could come up with the most. The most rational thing that they were like, they were beyond their. Their. They had their kids killed or raped by illegals. And so they just lost their mind and they went up on a shoe. There is no excuse for it. There is no excuse. And that person must be tried in a court of law, found guilty, and pay the full punishment. I don't care which side. Violence is not acceptable in politics. Period. Well, I do want to add. But the other. No. Period. And every single one of us must sanctify this now because it's going to get worse. Do not tolerate somebody who says, well, what happened to Charlie Kirk was really wrong. But, you know. No, it's wrong. Period. Period. What happened in Minnesota, where God only knows that story, God only knows the names of those people that he was trying to kill. But when they. When they killed that politician, when that guy came to the door dressed like a demon, that was wrong. Period. Period. It's an outrage. It's the destruction of our civilization. Period. And all of us should have been saying that every single time. I know I am. Every single time. I'm pretty sure you are. Every single time. The other thing we have to do if we're going to get out of this Bermuda Triangle alive, you must choose peace. That doesn't mean you passively sit on the sidelines. You do not surrender, but you look to Christ for his example. You ask for the Spirit to be with you all the time. If you don't foster having the Holy Spirit guide your every step, your every action, your every word, every day. If you're not doubling down on your faith right now, you will not make it. You will be lost in the fog of this Bermuda Triangle. There has to be enough of us that have that spirit so clear we can lead the Rest out of this triangle. It's. There is no way to save this country without God. There is no way. I'm telling you, when you hear, you want to. You hear what I'm going to release next hour about South Korea. You will understand. You will understand. You. This country is surrounded and all of it is aiming its guns to us. Because if we collapse, it's over for freedom. So we have a choice. We can either stay asleep, or we can argue back and forth about politics, or we can start living our lives on the principles that built this nation. And I'm sorry, gang, it's uncomfortable for a lot of people, but this is a Christian principled nation first. And when I say that, it doesn't mean stone gays. What it means is love thy neighbor. That's what it means. Love those who hate you and despise you and pray for them. Give forgiveness. Ask for forgiveness. Lead. You're not getting this in your churches. And shame on them. Because our churches are the only ones that. That's their only job. That's their only job. And they're timid. They're afraid Christ will not recognize you. He will not. You're not one of mine. Who are you? Well, I was talking about. You didn't do anything. You talked. You didn't do anything. 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[Stu Burguiere]

What is your optimism level. Level on all of that happening.

[Glenn Beck]

20 days ago. Poor. Today? High. Really? Yeah. I saw a miracle. I stood in that. I stood. I stood there. I was there. I was there. I witnessed it. There is something happening all around the world. I was in my office yesterday with this brave, brave woman from South Korea. She's going back, probably going to prison. She knows it. She knows it. I said, can we help get you asylum here? She's like, no, my family is there and I can't give up my country. What's happening? You know, you want to talk about freedom of speech? Do you know Bible gateway is blocked now in Europe to get a Bible passage in some parts in Europe, it's being blocked. You can't get Bible passages. Okay? That's how far it has gone. They just threw a pastor in South Korea into prison. Why? For preaching the truth. For preaching the truth that you are in charge. There is no king but Christ. This movement always, always goes after the Jews. I mean, it's a spiritual enemy. It's not flesh and bone. That's not what we're fighting. It always goes after the Jews and then it comes after the Christians. It must destroy religion. It must. Because that's the only thing that makes people do what Charlie Kirk did. It's the only thing. What is bigger than politics? What's bigger in your life? How many people are trying to fight for Donald Trump or fight against Donald Trump or Trump? What's bigger than that? God. But too many people look at rights coming from the government and not from God. And so they've got to fight for their rights there. No, that's not where your rights belong. I'm hoping it doesn't turn into 911 where we all promptly forgot. But I think America is going to wake up very soon. And it's, it's, we are at the last hour. I think America is waking up. And if we wake up in time, we will save freedom for the rest of the world. But we are literally surrounded. I mean look at Canada. They'd round up those truck drivers again. They'd do it today.

[Stu Burguiere]

Oh yeah, they'd have less hesitation probably.

[Glenn Beck]

Now look at the people gulping down the Tylenol. What is that? I'm going to address that next. I got to talk about that because that's just, that is bizarre. That's bizarre. It shows you how unhinged people really are right now. Make sure you have the spirit with you at all times. Fall to your knees and pray. Humble yourself and reconnect with God in the spirit. This is Glenn Beck. You know that moment right before you fall asleep when you're, when your body's ready but your mind keeps flipping through the old files. It's like it's got a last 20 minute page report to, you know, 20 page report to write. And you're like, you haven't even started the research. And so you're sitting there in bed, you know your window, you miss it, you're up for another hour or two or all night staring at the ceiling, wondering why the universe hates you so much. Z Factor is built for that exact situation. It's not a sledgehammer. It's not a next day drowsy pill. It's a science back the science backed deep sleep formula from the makers of Relief Factor that helps you drift smoothly, naturally and reliably back to sleep. It's not about knocking you out. It's about tuning you in. Sending the right signals to your brain and body. It says, we're done for the day. Let's get some sleep. No hangovers, no nightmares, just rest. The kind you haven't had since you were maybe 12. You're missing that window. You've been missing it for far too long. Z Factor is found. How you finally get through it. First time Z Factor buyers are going to enjoy 46% savings. It's 1995. For a 30 day supply, visit relieffactor.com or call 800, the number four relief. That's 800, the number four relief. More when we come back.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

There was a shooting this morning, bad one, at the Dallas ICE field office. Details are still emerging. The shooter self inflicted gunshot wound. We don't know the motive yet but we do know there are multiple injuries and fatalities. That's at least what Secretary Kristi Noem has said. We have Chip Roy on the phone now, candidate for Texas Attorney General. This is in his state where it happened and I'm sure has more information on this chip.

[Chip Roy]

Welcome to the program, Glenn. Good to be on. Obviously prayers for all those affected, particularly the law enforcement community and what they're dealing with as we get the facts.

[Glenn Beck]

Can you tell me there the left is coming out now and it's interesting to me that CNN and MSNBC are sticking with this story and Fox News is not. It might just be a judgment call, but it also may be that this was a right wing kind of guy because it was. Is it true that the the ones that were killed were not ICE but illegals?

[Chip Roy]

So right now I'm getting intel as fast as I can as you are. I've gotten some insight in broad terms that it appears to have been the detainees who were killed or wounded. But we don't know for sure yet. I want to be very clear that we don't know. So there could be varying motives, right?

[Rob McCoy]

It doesn't.

[Chip Roy]

It could be left wing, it could be right wing, it could just be gang violence, it could be cartel violence. We have no idea. What we do know is that there continues to be a disrespect for law enforcement and a disrespect for the rule of law. Because no matter what's going on here, if it's a gang, if it's a cartel, if it's a right wing lunatic or a left wing lunatic, you've got a disrespect of ICE such that they felt that they could go in and shoot up an ICE facility. And that is the product of a lawless Biden administration who didn't give a crap about law enforcement, who crapped all over ice, who crapped all over border patrol, who wanted to defund the police across the country, who wanted to stand with criminals over law enforcement, who leave our borders wide open and frickin George Soros leftists who put dangerous criminals on our streets. So I don't want to hear any of the backtracking bullcrap out of MSNBC and these radical leftists who want to endanger us and then dare to try to lecture me on whatever the Motives may or may not be of these individuals.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't, you know, I really chip. I really don't care what the motive was. I don't, I'm sick of the mo. I don't care what your motive was. You are, you are breaking down our civilization and our society. This violence must stop. So in saying that, and I know you feel exactly the same way, we, if this continues to grow at this existential rate that it has been, we are, we're going to have to make moves. And that is going to play into the hands of those who say, see, this is an authoritarian. What can we possibly do to get this kind of violence under control without violating civil rights?

[Chip Roy]

Well, you have to respect the rule of law, Glenn. This is not complicated. You stand up in defense of the rule of law. You don't put criminals on your street. You don't let George Soros funded Ren Collective. Left wing radicals say that we should have cashless bail and let criminals on our street. And don't prosecute that. You put people behind bars who should be. You don't have your borders be wide open. You prosecute people and you call out criminals when they are violating the law. And whether you're a left wing kook, when you're one of these radicalized transgender folks, whether you're a right wing kook, I don't care. You're violating the damn law. I hate concepts of hate speech and all these motives and what were you thinking? It's all bogus. But one thing that matters, and this is what I want to be clear about. When you create a climate and a culture that disrespects the rule of law, that disrespects sovereignty, that undermines Western civilization. If you are undermining the fact that it is our collective faith in the Lord Almighty and the biblical underpinnings of what built this country from the Declaration of the Constitution all the way through our laws, then you are are undermining our safety and security. And that's this real story behind the radical left. I don't know who the shooter was. Again, left wing, right wing. I don't care. I don't care. Dwight, I'm with you. I do care that the Marxists are undermining our way of life, breaking down Western civilization, moving us away from God, importing radicals, putting criminals on the streets, that's what we need to be at war against. We need to reclaim the rightful birthright for our kids and grandkids of a safe and secure America that believes in the rule of Law backs up law enforcement. And yes, you protect civil liberties. Damn right you protect civil liberties. But you don't have a civil liberty to go shoot up ice.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Chip Roy]

Or to go run drugs or to move fentanyl or to be gang members. You don't have a civil right to do that.

[Glenn Beck]

So, you know, with Antifa now. Well, and I don't know, I think it has to be funded yet, doesn't it? I mean, the President signed an executive order. But what are we going to do with the Antifa stuff? What's happening there? And then also the George Soros, I mean, you start going after their money and it's going to get much worse before it gets better. And I'm willing to do that, but it is going to get much worse. How do we.

[Chip Roy]

We have no choice, Glenn. I mean, when you go back and look with credit where credit is due. What Jack Kennedy and Bobby Kennedy and the people that were trying to break apart the mob. If you, if you were one of the individuals willing to take on violent cartels. Look, when I was in the U.S. attorney's office, you had to know that if you were taking on the cartels, if you were taking on violent gang members, you were putting yourself in jeopardy because you knew you were going to the heart of the problem. And we've got to recognize that the radical leftists, the antifa, the organized crime, and by the way, I'm against all organized crime, whatever their political motives are, whatever the profit motives are. But you got to recognize it when you see it in Antifa and Southern Property Law center and all of these organizations. They're a part of a radicalized network that want to undermine what you and I just talked about. So when the President declares Antifa a terrorist organization, he is correct to do so because they are radicalized and undermining freedom, undermining the rule of law. Law. Go take them out and follow the money. Go follow the money to Soros. Go follow the money to the Wren Collective. Go follow the money to SPLC and Antifa. Go follow the money to all of the groups, the 250 organizations that the center for Immigration Studies outlined that were funneling illegal aliens into our country, knowing many of them were affiliated with Trend and other gang members that were undermining our security. Follow the money and decide. Destroy them.

[Glenn Beck]

When do we start that? When do we start that?

[Chip Roy]

Now? Now? Yesterday? Last week? Last year?

[Glenn Beck]

No, I know. That's what I feel. What you feel? I'm asking you, when will it happen? When will we see this?

[Chip Roy]

Well, I believe that the Trump administration by declaring antifa terrorist organization Cash Patel and Pam Bondi, they now know what their directive is. They need to go do it. But Congress needs to get off the damn mark. The reason I sent a letter calling for a special select committee identifying the radical left networks and tying them out and exposing them is because the American people need to know it. And I want to see leadership. We have 40 members of Congress who have now signed my letter. I want to hear what the Speaker, I want to hear what the leaders of the House want to do to go combat this stuff. And I want to be very clear because there's going to be some listeners out there, some leftists who are going to say Chip Roy was attacking the left and this shooter ends up being whoever he is or she is. I don't care, Glenn. That's not my point. My point is we're living in a lawless society because of the left. And I want to stop that. And so should every Republican who's worth their grain of salt and so should.

[Glenn Beck]

Honestly every Democrat that is still an American. The Jimmy Kimmel thing, did we cross any lines constitutionally or are we close to any constitutional lines with this Jimmy Kimmel thing? Anything that makes you uncomfortable with this?

[Chip Roy]

So here's the thing that I want to make sure people understand when Brendan Carr, who's an FCC commissioner, for those who don't know who, by the way, I know and full disclosure, is a friend.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I know him and I really like him. He's a friend of mine too.

[Chip Roy]

He's a great guy, great man. And by the way, so are some of my friends are people who have called him out. My greatest friend, Senator Cruz has done so, and some others. Here's the thing. We are always correct to want to say, wait a second, what power of government is being used and how is it being used? That is always a good instinct. It is also a good instinct to say that the radical left doesn't get to have a unilateral ability to leverage all of the power of government to go after us. And then the right say, wait a second, you have a guy who went on a massive corporate network funded ABC Disney show and then is then going out on all of these affiliate broadcasters like you know, Sinclair and Nexar, all these organizations that have to make decisions from a business perspective and not have the FCC commissioner be able to raise the question and the prospect, you know what? If you say crazy crap, those broadcasters may decide they don't want to put your crazy crap on the Air. And that has an impact, by the way, in the broadcasting world, when you're talking about licenses, you know it better than anybody. You could teach me all the ins and outs, but you can't say anything you want over the air. You literally can't. Now, do we want the government policing political speech? No. Do we want the government going in and telling us what we can say or can't say unless it's something patently obvious like pornography or say, you know, an F bomb on the airwaves? Generally not. But it is reasonable for the FCC commissioner to say what he basically said, which is when he said, you can do this the easy way or the hard way. Either back off Disney and don't countenance that ridiculousness of saying there was a MAGA shooter and putting out false information, or you're going to deal with the fact that you're going to have licenses, meaning the broadcasters who are going to say, we don't want to broadcast your crap. That's the way I interpreted it. So, look, that's now a business decision. And you've got Sinclair who's saying no. And Jimmy went on air last night and he tried to be this kinder and gentler and softer. Jimmy. But you know what? You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, and he played a stupid game trying to make this into something it wasn't by declaring the shooter maga. And then that kind of stuff needs to be called out. Does that make sense?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. I liked what Brandon Carr said about, and you kind of touched on this, that we're not trying to censor, we're trying to give local control back. Right now, all of the decisions are made in New York or Los Angeles for these networks. And they don't care about these local facilities, these local stations, that most of them are small cities. Almost everything in Sinclair is in a small city. There's a few big ones, but not a lot of. And you know, they have a right to say, this does not appeal to us. In fact, it's a. It's an assault to our community standards. And what he said was, we have to get back to community standards and these local stations should be allowed to hold up their community standards because that's the way they get a license renewed is they're holding. Upholding community standards. But I, you know, I want less regulation, not more regulation. I certainly don't want a police freedom of speech.

[Chip Roy]

Yeah, you and I are aligned. And I think Brendan said that. Well, and he's an FCC commissioner for a reason. He said it Better than I did. You need to ensure that local control is what is governing. But I just wanted to be clear here that it is important to call out this ridiculous speech. And the FCC commissioner can. You don't have to police it. Brendan didn't take an action. He called it out. Had he taken action, we could then decide and we could judge whether the action was appropriate or not. Right. He pulled a license or something. He simply called it out and said, you should be aware that there could be consequences to this kind of language. And that's actually important for people to hear, in my view.

[Glenn Beck]

Chip, our thoughts are with you. I hope you are a next attorney General here in the great state of Texas, because as things get tougher, we really need a good attorney general.

[Chip Roy]

Well, Glenn, I appreciate that. I'm doing it for a reason. My kids are 16 and 14. I want them to grow up in a safe, secure, and free America. And it's going to take the same smartest people we have in this generation who are willing to stand up and fight and defend not just America, but Texas. As Texas go, so goes America. Every Texan we should view through the lens of, if we were the Republic of Texas, what would we do? Do that we shouldn't stand back and wait for Joe Biden or some future leftist to leave our borders open or allow George Soros to put criminals on our streets or allow Epic City and Sharia law to march through the streets of Texas.

[Rob McCoy]

Enough.

[Chip Roy]

And that's why I'm running for Attorney General. And I appreciate it.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Rob McCoy]

Foreign.

[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. All right, we're gonna, we're gonna turn our sights to South Korea. You'll understand why here in just a minute. We have turning point Faith co chair Charlie Kirk's pastor. Love this guy, Rob McCoy. He was with Charlie in, in South Korea. Charlie came back, said, I'm going to make this a very important big deal talk. And then he was killed. So we're doing it here. Next. Pests don't follow the rules. They don't wait for invitations. They don't respect property lines. They certainly don't, you know, help out around the house while they're there. Moxie Pest control exists to take that comfort away from them. They're not just spraying and praying. They're strategic, effective, and actually committed to solving the problem. So when you sign up with Moxie, you're getting trained technicians who know what to look for, how to treat it and how to keep it from coming back. Their products are family friendly, pet safe and targeted, which means you can breathe easy and their Service comes with a guarantee. If the bugs do come back, so do they, at no extra charge. From black widows to sugar ants to whatever has been crawling around your attic at night, Moxie will handle it. They have polite texts, on time, appointments, real results. They do what they say they're going to do. Don't live at the mercy of whatever's creeping in. Take your home. Back with Moxie right now. Celebrate 25 years in the business. You can get your first pest control spring service for $25. Just visit moxyservices.com beck use the promo code beck moxyservices.com Beck promo code Beck. All right, begin our number three, South Korea. Very important. Next.

[Rob McCoy]

Sam down the road where shadows hide.

[Chip Roy]

Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark Gotta face the dog and embrace the fire.

[Glenn Beck]

The fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. This morning, as you got up wherever you are or perhaps on your way to work, there was another shooting. Shooting from an elevated position here in a very populated area of Dallas, Texas. And they shot into an ICE van. And we don't know anything about the killer other than he killed himself after. But there, there is death and those in critical, critical condition. It looks like he hit ICE detainees, not the ICE members. But he was shooting into a van. That's new information. Shooting into a van. We don't know if it had tinted windows or whatever it was. So I mean, that's just a, that's shooting fish in a barrel. But that evil is growing and there is a great pushback. But I want to talk to the guy who is really helping with that pushback about something that, that you don't know anything about, most likely. And that is what? South Korea. What's happening in South Korea? It's happening in Europe. It has been happening here to some degree. But in South Korea, they have just arrested a pastor, a targeted arrest against Christians. South Korea is in real trouble and there are patriots that are standing up. Charlie was over in South Korea. Charlie Kirk was over with his pastor, Rob McCoy, just a couple of days before Charlie was killed. And he said, I'm, if you're arrested, I'm going to make this very, very famous in America. Unfortunately, he was killed before he had an opportunity to do that. So I'd like to honor Charlie by at least alerting you at what is going on. Rob McCoy, the turning point faith co chair and Charlie's pastor, joins me in just a second. First, my Patriot supply. Every time another minute ticks on the clock, you're rolling the dice and making a bet. You're betting them that the power is going to stay on. Pretty good bet. Supply chains stay open. Okay. The store down the road will still have food on the shelf when you need it for your family. That one's kind of dicey, depending on where you live. And most of the time the bet pays off. But when something doesn't, when something goes wrong, you don't get a do over. And that's why I tell people, be prepared. It's not about. It's not about fear or anything else. It's the exact opposite when the news breaks. The shelves are empty now, and you don't want to have to worry about that. Your family is taken care of. Breakfast, lunch, dinner. Everything you need to keep your family fed for weeks without ever having to set foot in a panic. Grocery store peace of mind isn't something you find in the moment and it's something you prepare for in advance. My Patriot Supply is where you start. You go to mypatriotsupply.com Glenn, you get 90 preparedness essentials totaling 100. I'm sorry, $1,500. Absolutely free. To find out how, go to my patriotsupply.com. get the full details. My patriotsupply.com Glenn, do it now. Pastor McCoy, let me, let me just first, first of all, thank you for the effect you had on Charlie Kirk. I know he was a sponge, but this man lived his life and you were there to teach him so much and to help him on his way. And the memorial service, it is a miracle I have prayed for for 30 years. I've never seen anything like it. And you played a huge role in all of this, and I cannot thank you enough for what you've done.

[Rob McCoy]

Well, Glenn, I thank you and all your listeners. I mean, America honored Charlie. And you're right, the man was a sponge. I mean, he would ask me a question about a specific theological issue and then the next day he'd be an expert on it. And the longer you spend time with it, you get stretch marks on your brain because he just, he was a voracious reader. He was always learning and man. And, and I just, he had such a tender heart for the things of God and, and, and it showed in everything he did. And the world's getting to see that part of him, not, not the label, that the left foot on him. That's all being dismantled and dismissed. People are seeing him for who he really was. And, and it's a real awakening. It's exciting.

[Glenn Beck]

So I'm going to put a picture up on the screen, Rob. And it's a picture with Charlie and a pastor in South Korea.

[Rob McCoy]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Can you tell the audience what is. Because you were there, what is happening?

[Rob McCoy]

So the pastor in the picture with Charlie is a man by the name of Pastor Son, who is ex Korean Special Forces. He's married with three kids. You know, you can't fake good kids is what Charlie used to say. And his kids are amazing. His wife is amazing. And he pastors the largest church in Busan, South Korea. That's about 15,000 congregants. He was the only pastor to stay open during COVID They threatened him. They. They tried to sue him into oblivion by lawfare. And then when they tried to enforce, you know, transgenderism and the whole Alphabet soup on the church, he stood in opposition. And millions of people marched in all five major cities in South Korea as a result of this man. And so when this new regime took over, they. They came right after Pastor Sohn. And we were in that picture where you. I'm in the room. I'm. I'm watching Charlie standing next to him. Pastor Son said, it's likely I'll be arrested. And Charlie said to him, if you're arrested, I can't speak on behalf of our government, but. But myself, if you're arrested, I'm. I'm going to call the Secretary of State.

[Chip Roy]

If I.

[Rob McCoy]

And if he. He answers, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make sure he hears this. And he said, I'll do everything I can to get attention to this. And Pastor Sohn, he said, thank you. And he was so grateful to Charlie, and he was so grateful for him inspiring these. These youth to stand for. For. For freedom. And of course, you know, we landed on Monday. My phone blew up, and Pastor Sohn was in prison. Charlie called me. He said, get me all the information in regards to what he's being charged with and. And where he's being detained. I got it all to him. I got the. The videos. And he said, we're gonna. We're gonna feature it on the. On my program. And as you know, a bullet took our friend's life. And I just committed to Charlie in my own heart. I'm. I'm gonna support Pastor so. And so I'm leaving Thursday. I'm flying over to take his pulpit because he's in prison, and I'm gonna. I'm gonna go there and just contend. And. And I'm. I. I don't care what they do to me. I. I If the world doesn't wake up, that when you start raiding churches and imprisoning pastors and, and you, you. South Korea thinks that we can lose. America will, will lose 36,224U.S. Personnel to stop the Chinese from invading you and set that 38th parallel. And you're going to do this. You're going to infringe on religious liberty? No. No. So I'm going over there.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, I will tell you that, you know, build up Korea was the event that Charlie was attending. And these people are amazing. It's a, it's a little TPUSA over in, in Korea. And Mina Kim, Mina Kim, who I know you know, was in my office yesterday and I made the same commitment to her that Charlie made and that you made. And we're going to take care of her security. We are going to watch over her. We're also. I don't know how we're going to do this, but we need to raise a million dollars to. Just because they lost all sponsors. Everybody just walked away because everybody is afraid of this new regime. This new regime is really bad. They've opened up the borders and all these Chinese illegals are coming into Korea. They're just destroying Korea and turning it over to the Chinese. And it's becoming very, very anti American. Not the people of South American South Korea, but the government of South Korea. And they are attacking the churches because that's what communists do. They have to destroy the church. And there's another story today in Europe that there are places now in Europe you can't get to Bible gateway, you can't read the Bible online. It's hate speech. And they are closing down scriptures in Europe of all places. This is sweeping the world.

[Rob McCoy]

It is.

[Glenn Beck]

And as I was talking to Mina, you know, because I didn't, I wasn't paying attention what was happening in South Korea. And I thought, they're surrounding us. It's a noose. They are surrounding us. And if America doesn't wake up, if the churches don't wake up, because that's the only answer. The only answer is God at this point, that's it. And if the churches don't wake up and start remembering their responsibility and people don't start remembering who we actually are as Americans, it. The whole world plunges into darkness.

[Rob McCoy]

Absolutely right. You know, Jonathan Mayhew, Eastern seaboard minister during the war of independence when they were all bagging on him, saying, and you know, you need to submit to King George Because Romans 13 says Submit to all positions of authority, they're appointed by God. And he pointed out, he said, yeah, but they're there for our good, the scripture says, and when they cease to do good, they cease to be the authority. And he coined the phrase that inspired the War of Independence. He said, disobedience to tyrants is obedience to God. And, and we just watched America restore probably another 50 years of liberty because of Charlie Kirk's efforts, inspiring pastors and awakening them. And when they were telling us that church was non essential in California, Charlie stood by me when I defied the governor and, and it, and when you saw that memorial service on Sunday. Now I'm the, I'm the first guy who came out and I was asked to present the gospel and, and give a call to Christ. But, and I'm a minister by trade, Glenn. But now I need to run for office because all the politicians were there were preaching the gospel. That's a direct influence of Charlie. When the church stands, good government happens with good people. And there's the largest Christian population in Asia is in Korea. And they have been influenced by these kneeling mouth ministers in America to just be compliant. And now they need to stand or they're going to lose everything. And that's Mina Kim. In a patriarchal society, this young woman stands. I call her Seabiscuit. She's tiny, but she's mighty.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh yeah.

[Rob McCoy]

And she's standing and inspiring an entire generation. This was my third event. I'm the one who brought it to Charlie. Like this girl's getting it done. And she worked so hard. And every, like you said, this the last thing, but every single one of the sponsors of these companies, everyone were threatened and they in churches too. They bailed on her and they left her hanging in the wind. Well, bless you, Glenn, for doing that. I've been calling everybody I know to raise some money for as well. And you're amazing.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, if you care to give to this cause, I mean, she's on the hook for a million dollars because they pulled this thing off and then no one wrote the checks and it's a very big deal. And she looked, she sat, she sat in my office and she said, I'm going back next week and I'm probably going to be arrested. And I said, can we get you amnesty? Is there anything we can do? You know, let me call Washington and see if we. She's like, I can't. My family is there, they'll be persecuted. And she said, and it's my country and I've got to stand. So I'm going back And I'm. You know, I have been looking for people of courage for a long time, real courage. And Charlie was the biggest and best example. And they're starting to come out of the woodwork now. People, they have no idea what they started. I mean, I've never understood darkness, doesn't understand the light more than I do right now. It just has no idea what it's doing.

[Rob McCoy]

Yeah, well, you know, we found out today, or at least I was reading yesterday, that they've. YouTube is reinstated conservative accounts that they block. They just blocked Mina's account. They shut her down in Korea. They took out her YouTube, and they're trying to remove any ability for her to communicate with the masses. And for anyone who's going to donate thinking you're wasting a million dollars, let me just tell you what your money went to. First of all, you're going to keep a warrior alive that's going to continue this fight, who's fearless. And secondly, the money that was already spent Inspired at least 5,000 Korean young people. Those are the ones you saw on the news chanting, I am Charlie Kirk. They're ready to go all in. And if you're a believer, you have no idea.

[Glenn Beck]

Hang on just a second, America. You have no idea. You thought that was a nice gesture, and it was. It was so heartening to see that, but you have no idea what those people risked.

[Rob McCoy]

Yeah. Yep, that's exactly it. I mean, it was. Every one of them is targeted.

[Glenn Beck]

It's amazing. They are risking going to jail, their family being persecuted just for standing with a candle saying, I am Charlie Kirk. It's incredible what's happening.

[Rob McCoy]

And I would say to anyone who has influence over the administration and we're trying to get up the food chain, Charlie would have an easier job of this. I'm trying. But I would say, president, I will help you.

[Glenn Beck]

You tell me what you need. I will help you all that I can.

[Rob McCoy]

I would just say President Trump, he gave Korea 15% tariffs. You know, if they're going to be raiding churches and they're going to be imprisoning pastors and. And threatening the equivalent of turning point in Korea, I think 15 is way too low. Let's make them feel the pain. And. And, you know, we. We're not going to dictate their government, but we can dictate how they're going to do business with us. Make it hurt. So that's my thought.

[Glenn Beck]

Pastor, can I call you next week when you're there? And can we?

[Rob McCoy]

Yes, yes, and yes again.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, thank you so much for everything.

[Rob McCoy]

We're in this together. Glenn, you bless me more than you know. Thanks, brother.

[Glenn Beck]

Thanks, Rob. Bye. Bye. Appreciate it.

[Rob McCoy]

Okay, bye.

[Glenn Beck]

That's Charlie Kirk's pastor, who you saw call for an altar call on Sunday, which was amazing. His, his sermon was amazing. If you want to help, please go to mercury1.org I don't even know if they have a fund. Just put it in the general fund and you know, you can market Charlie Kirk or I'm sorry, South Korea, but she needs a million dollars and, and, and really bad. I mean, they're going to go after her for not having the money to pay everybody. They're going to go after. They, they. It's out of control. This is an ally of ours, completely out of control because they've got now a Marxist government. They have a government like, like Joe Biden, like all of Europe. They have these people who are just destroying it and they are choosing. The government is choosing China over America. The people don't want China. Uh, and the only thing that will save this are the churches. Please, if you can, please help them, please help them. Go to mercury1.org in honor of Charlie Kirk. Pick up his promise. Mercury1.org well, there.

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[Glenn Beck]

Years ago, 2018, 2019. Charlie and I stood on a balcony. I've told the story recently. And we had a talk. And he said, what's coming next? I said, assassinations. And he said, they're going to try to kill Trump. And I said, yes, and they're not going to stop there. I mean, it could be one of us. And he looked at me. We stood there quiet for a minute. He didn't really have anything to say to that. It was just kind of processing. And he said, we're living in a movie. Isn't it like we're living in a movie? And I said, yeah, it does feel like that. Well, it's not a movie. It's real life. It's actual real life. And what an honor it is to live at this time. Sincerely, I want you to think about this. Sincerely, you could bitch and complain and say, you know, why now? Why am I here? Why do I have to go through this? It's an honor. If we choose to use the time, what are we choosing to spend our time on? When I had Mina sitting in my office yesterday, and I'm talking to her and I'm hearing what she's going through, I mean, she's probably 90 pounds, soaking wet, in her 20s, just this amazing young girl. And what she's. And she's like, I can't. I can't let my country fall into this. I can't. I have to honor my God and my country, and it's what I have to do. She has a choice. She has a choice. She could decide to spend her time on something else, but instead she's a hero. I'm seeing them everywhere now. Everywhere. And the ones that are going to make the difference are the ones that actually put all of their time in doing one thing, becoming a better person and more well educated. And not through university system, just educated on scripture, educated on real history. What actually happened in the past. Just start looking for heroes. And what you know, we have destroyed heroes. That's one of the first things the left did. They destroyed all our heroes. Why do you think they did that? Why do you think you. Because that way you don't know what's right or wrong. You don't know what to do. You don't have any heroes that you're like, I want to be like that guy. Then when you don't have that, then take away the scriptures, you take away the biblical heroes who I refer to, remind you we're more flawed than most of us, okay? Really badly flawed. All those heroes, except for one flawed, but they're heroes. Take those away. You have to have patterns to follow. Study those patterns, find those people. Dedicate yourself to being one of those people and live your life for something worth. This is Glenn Beck. Right now, families in Israel are still living under fire. There are sirens, airstrikes, power outages, grief, fear. For those people, that's not just a war zone. That's their home. And when everything feels unstable, the one thing remains stable, the international Fellowship of Christians and Jews. You know, if we fall under this, do you think we're going to have anybody coming to our rescue? Probably not, because we're the ones always rescuing the rest of the world. But I like that about us. And our time is coming again to do the same, to stand up. The Fellowship is on the ground over in Israel because of you, delivering food, water, medicine, blankets, generators, whatever it takes to keep people alive. Right now, through the Flags of Fellowship movement, you can show Israel they're not alone. Thousands of Christians around the world are displaying Israeli flags in their windows, in their homes, across social media, sending a clear message of unity and unwavering support. It's a simple fact. But for some hiding in a bomb shelter, getting necessary aid also knowing they're not forgotten can make all the difference. Please pray for the Jews. Give generously. Stand up and tell people of Israel, you are not alone and we are not afraid. Get more information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement. Visit Fellowship online IFCJ.org that's IFC. IFCJ.org I want to talk to you a little bit about what we have now. The newest, latest details happen. About 2 1/2 hours ago in Dallas, Texas, another ICE facility was shot up. There was confusion. People on the left were saying that this was a, a right leaning shooter, which didn't make sense to me, still doesn't make sense to me. But they said that because the, the van that they shot into, they shot in and they killed ICE detainees. But he was far enough away not to necessarily know who was in the van. But now we have some new information that anti ICE messages were scrawled on the, the bullet casings.

[Stu Burguiere]

It's according to police as well, not just a Twitter rumor. Obviously. We've been trying to be very careful today to make sure that we don't get ahead of ourselves and make sure that we have all the facts that we can, we can gather. And that was the biggest thing that came out of the press conference that just happened. They said that There were shell casings around the shooter with anti ICE messages engraved on them in some way. So we don't know what they were exactly, but that certainly goes a long way to motive.

[Glenn Beck]

So I think this is something that I can clearly say not as a joke, but as a. As a fact. The left now has. They've. There's four injured, two dead. So the left has injured and killed more detainees than ice. Which. Which one's the deadly one? Which. Which one now?

[Stu Burguiere]

It doesn't. We don't know at this point whether this was. I mean, maybe a mistake. Right. It's very possible. Look, you know, with the discussion of the van, at least, it seems very possible that he just thought there were agents in the back of the van and hit the wrong thing.

[Glenn Beck]

Sure.

[Stu Burguiere]

Hit the wrong person.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, if the van that I'm seeing is that white van, it has no windows on the side, and it looks as though he shot through the back window. I couldn't.

[Stu Burguiere]

Hard to know. It's hard to know that part.

[Glenn Beck]

We don't. But that back window had at least what was remaining of that shattered window, was tinted so dark you could fire through the back window and think you're going to hit the driver and the guy in the front seat, even if you don't know that there are people, other people in the van. I mean, you know, it's just. This is just so evil. It's just so incredibly evil. And when will the left stop playing this game? When will the left. When will people who are just regular Democrats start going, this has got to stop. This got to stop? I'm not listening to any of you anymore on any of this stuff. You're completely discredited. Don't talk to me about fascism. Don't talk to me about the ICE agents. You're shooting law enforcement.

[Rob McCoy]

You're.

[Glenn Beck]

You're burning our cities down. You're. You're assassinating people and saying it's okay to assassinate people. No, no, you. You have no credibility. None. Because you would be saying that if I were saying that. If I were saying, you know what? So they killed Joe Biden, so they shot at him. Oh, they. He had it coming. You would. You would run me out of town on a rail, and you should. There's zero. Zero talk. Do not tolerate anyone. Stand up if they are going to say that to you. You stand up and politely, quite honestly reject them in the name of Christ if you have to. Because I think it's evil. But you make sure that nobody gets away with that around you. I'm sorry, I am not going to stand here and hear you say that there is no excuse for violence. None. How is that? What? Let me ask you this. What kind of civilization do you want to live in? Because one side is pushing a civilization where there is no civilization, there is no government, there is no rule of law, there are no rights. If they decide they disagree with you, you're dead. Is that the kind of country you want to live in? Because that's exactly what you're building in your silence. There's no excuse for this. None.

[Stu Burguiere]

We do have a message now from Cash Patel, FBI Director. He says goes through what happened this morning and says the initial investigation is ongoing. But the review of the evidence, at least the initial evidence, shows an ideological motive behind the attack. One of the unspent shell casings recovered was engraved with the phrase Anti Ice. So it wasn't just like Anti Ice slogans. The literal phrase Anti Ice on there, he has a picture of the bullets and one of them does actually just say Anti Ice. So that's what we have at this point. But. But that's now coming not only from local police, but from the FBI.

[Glenn Beck]

And you know, it's true because Fox News is now saying found messages of anti Ice in nature. And then CNN and MSNBC are just reporting that law enforcement says it's targeted violence.

[Stu Burguiere]

Can I reveal what happened earlier? Before the air? We were off the air and we have a bunch of TVs in front of us while the network's on. And Glenn says, you know what? I think they really believe this was a right winger who did this. And I said, what do you mean? He goes, look up at the screens. Right now MSNBC is the only one covering it. And Fox News has left. Now we are back. And now it seems very much to be that it was a left wing anti Ice person. And now MSNBC had stopped covering it and Fox News has begun.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And it's just that right now they're all three covering it. But the way the banner reads at the bottom, bottom, Fox is the only one being honest. Found Met Dallas FBI found messages anti Ice in nature. The other two, targeted violence.

[Stu Burguiere]

Targeted. Targeted by. What does that even mean?

[Glenn Beck]

Nothing.

[Stu Burguiere]

From that phrase, nothing. Targeted violence.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

You mean other than they just thought they were just gonna, you know, spray up in the air like. Yeah, it's just so, so predictable. Look, the bottom line is, you know, and I hope you get this from this show. I don't know. I mean, this is certainly what we attempt to do is to Try to bring you through these stories with the facts and give you actually the truth about what happened. I have. Literally, and I know this is true with you, Glenn. No time, no tolerance. No, no. No sympathy for anyone on the right who commits an act like this.

[Glenn Beck]

I want you. I want you to fry in the electric chair.

[Stu Burguiere]

Maybe even more than someone on the left. Because if you're representing my side of an argument with violence, screw you. I want nothing to do with you. I have nothing to do with you. And I want you gone forever. And I, in some ways, want it more just because I don't want it associated with my side at all.

[Glenn Beck]

You know what's really interesting? You know, that's why Gandhi went on his hunger strike. Everybody thinks Gandhi went on to his. On his hunger strike to protest England. No, he went on his hunger stark because his side started saying, you know what? This peace thing's not working. And he said, oh, okay, well, I'm out. And they're like, Mr. Gandhi, you can't be out. Yeah, in fact, I'm going to. I'm going to fast and pray for you, and I'm going to go on a hunger strike, and I will not eat or drink until you denounce violence. And they kept coming to him going, okay, no. Well, we have some people that have denounced it. And he's like, no, all of it.

[Katie Hopkins]

It.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't care. I will die before you will push violence into what I believe. No, I won't be a part of it. I rather die. And they got down. They were begging him in the end. Down on their knees, begging him, please eat something. Have you all denounced violence? No, but we're really close. Nope, that's what the hunger strike was about. It wasn't about the English. It was about his own side getting violent and him denouncing it. That's what all of us must be like. If ever violence comes from our side, you denounce it. Denounce it just as strongly as you denounce it on the right, on the left, denounce it. There is no place for this. Here's what happens. The society that you will build will get more and more violent until you have to have armed federal agents on street corners. Now, how does that work out? I believe this is part of the plan. I believe. I really do believe that this is so evil and they're so out of control right now that. That. That you're going to have to have federal law enforcement everywhere. If this continues to grow at this pace, how long can our society Remain. And without that, if people are on the street saying, no, I have a right to kill you because of what you say. And it keeps continuing to grow. And you have these shooters every day, another one every single day. What are you gonna do? Well, you're gonna have to enact some sort of federal something. And then what happens? Then the very people that are shooting up the streets say, see, we told you they were fascists, and they light the streets on fire even more. And then what does Trump have to do? He's got to get more draconian. And then what do they do? I mean, this is civil war. This. This is what they want. This is what they want. That is why everyone needs to say to your family members, I forgive you. Will you forgive me? We've got to come back together. Can we agree on a few things? Violence is wrong on either side. No questions asked, no finger pointing, nothing. We are on one side against violence in our streets. We can disagree on how we vote, but no violence on the streets. And I don't care who started it. Are we going to be the ones that stop it? Because if it's not you who's going to ask yourself that question over and over every day, if not me, then who? If not now, then when? It must begin today with you. Please forgive me for whatever I've done. Can we please, like Christ, just wipe the slates clean? We can disagree on politics all you want, but this must stop. Otherwise all of our cities are going to burn to the ground. This must stop. I've. I. You know, you could talk about Nazis. You can talk about Nazis, you can talk about the tactics that the Nazis used, you can talk about propaganda that the Nazis used, you can talk about all kinds of stuff that the Nazis used, but do not start saying people are Nazis. I said in 2008 that I thought our president was a racist, and I immediately followed it. I think he's a racist, comma. No, that's not quite right, but he has some sort of hatred for the white culture. I didn't know what CRT meant. I didn't know DEI yet. That's what it was. That's what it was. I couldn't put my finger on it because I wasn't educated enough on that kind of crap, but the world went crazy. You can't say that about the president. You can't. You don't say that about the president. My side even said, you don't say that about the president. I know. I was thinking out loud and it wasn't quite right. And I tried to express that it wasn't quite right right away, but I was thinking out loud, sorry. And I apologized. You don't call the President now. We just call him Hitler now. We just say he's going to commit genocide. Now there's, it's, it's a totalitarian government. He wants to round people up and stone gaze to death. What the hell is wrong with you? Stop it right now. On both sides. Stop it. And you're the one to stop it. With peace and love and forgiveness. You're the one. It must start in your family. Dedicate yourself to being a better person today than you were yesterday and a better person tomorrow than you are today. It's going to be in baby steps. You're not going to be perfect. You're not going to have the answers. You're going to make mistakes along the way, but dedicate yourself right now. I am going to be a better person. I am going to follow the principles that I claim to believe in no matter the cost. I'm going to stand. Do it. I beg you, do it and watch the world change. Back in just a minute. There are thousands of products that claim to help with pain. Creams, patches, pills, the works. But when you line them up side by side, most of them have one thing in common. They're designed to mask the pace of the pain. They're not changing anything. That's where Relief Factor comes in. That's what makes it different. 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This is the kind of this is the kind of stuff that needs to stop. Last night, Gavin Newsom in California. What do you say?

[Stu Burguiere]

He said, I fear that we will not have an election in 2028. I really mean that.

[Glenn Beck]

Does he direct quote. And that's why he's running for president, Right. Doing everything he can to set up for the. The president, sure.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right. Of course, he doesn't actually believe that. No, he's just lying because he wants to sound like Mr. Tough Guy so he can win, I guess, presidential primary in an election he supposedly believes isn't going to occur. But all that being said, this is the type of stuff like you think about. These are the types of things that actually did happen in Nazi Germany.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Stu Burguiere]

They just canceled elections and named chancellors and all these things. And you might remember a little bit of Germany, the history of Germany from this era. There weren't a ton of people going, going on late night talk shows saying how bad Hitler was on television.

[Glenn Beck]

You know why?

[Stu Burguiere]

While he was in office.

[Glenn Beck]

You know why? Kurt Garon, you know why? They killed them.

[Stu Burguiere]

They killed them.

[Glenn Beck]

They killed.

[Stu Burguiere]

They killed them when they did that. That's not happening here. This is not fascism. These are all lies.

[Glenn Beck]

But wait, wait, wait, wait. There are people being killed for speaking up. That's true.

[Stu Burguiere]

Gee, who are they?

[Glenn Beck]

Which side is more the fascistic style that says, you cannot speak or we will kill you? Yeah.

[Stu Burguiere]

The murders actually occurring. But when you convince people over and over again that there's fascists, there's Nazis, there's dictators, there's no elections, what choice.

[Glenn Beck]

Do you give them?

[Stu Burguiere]

You're fueling at least the possibility of.

[Glenn Beck]

These things because what choice are you giving people?

[Stu Burguiere]

Right? You're telling people, what would you have done in Nazi Germany in these situations?

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, jeez, would you go back and kill baby Hitler? No. If Hitler is alive today, what are you going to do about it? It, I mean, that's the kind of choice they're giving people. It must end. No violence either side, period. This is Glenn, Becky.