The Glenn Beck Program
Episode: "What Glenn's Haters Got Wrong About 'George AI'"
Date: December 9, 2025
Host: Glenn Beck
Guest: Andy Ngo (featured segment)
Duration: Full episode (Best-of content/ad breaks omitted)
Episode Overview
This episode of The Glenn Beck Program weaves together a range of topics at the crossroads of American governance, culture, and media. Centering on current Supreme Court hearings about the president's authority over administrative agencies, Glenn Beck challenges the modern rise of unaccountable "expert" bureaucracies. He discusses what he sees as an existential threat posed by a "fourth branch" of government and explores the societal manipulation enabled by media and technology. The episode also addresses podcast-fueled conspiracy theories, featuring an interview with journalist Andy Ngo, and Glenn introduces his George AI project—a tool designed for constitutional literacy using primary sources.
Tone: Candid, provocative, sometimes humorous, often urgent, typical of Beck's style.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. The Supreme Court and the ‘Fourth Branch’ of Government
Theme: The presidential authority question being pondered by the Supreme Court, focusing on whether the president can fire officials in independent federal agencies, thus confronting the constitutional legitimacy of unaccountable bureaucratic “experts.”
Key Points:
- Beck criticizes the precedent set in 1935 prohibiting presidential removal of certain federal commissioners, arguing it created a dangerous, unaccountable bureaucratic layer ("fourth branch").
- He highlights Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson’s position advocating for expert-driven agencies insulated from political forces.
"Once you have an expert class, they don't answer to anyone, so they never go to jail." — Glenn Beck [12:46]
- Beck argues this system runs counter to the founders’ intentions. Drawing from Madison and the Federalist Papers, he claims unaccountable expertise breeds tyranny.
Notable Quote:
"Madison warned that power cloaked in expertise and shielded from the people would someday become the very definition of tyranny."
— Glenn Beck [15:55]
- He frames the central issue as one of sovereignty: Does power originate with the citizen or with bureaucracy?
"You cannot have executive power without executive accountability. And if accountability disappears, liberty disappears right after it."
— Glenn Beck [21:34]
2. Critique of ‘Expert’ Governance
Theme: The problem with deferring to “experts” who are unaccountable and insulated from public recourse.
Key Points:
- Beck sarcastically challenges the notion that experts (in government, war, health, or finance) are always trustworthy or competent.
- He provides a historical anecdote about Dr. Samuel Mudd, the only “expert” whose name became synonymous with shame, to underscore how rare it is for modern experts to face consequences.
Notable Moment:
- Beck’s repeated challenge: Name a recent “expert” responsible for national missteps who was ever fired or jailed. He claims no one can—a sign of the system’s lack of accountability. [12:46]
3. Canada’s Medical Bureaucracy Case Study
Theme: The perils of large, impersonal bureaucratic systems beyond the US.
Key Points:
- The show pivots to discuss Canadian assisted suicide (MAiD) programs and the tragic case of Jolene Van Alstein, prevented by bureaucracy from accessing needed surgery, but approved for assisted death.
- This, Beck asserts, exemplifies the dangers of systems run by unremovable “experts.”
"Who do you go to fight? You can't go to the government to fight it because the government will say it's the experts that are running the health industry. They're the experts. So they make all of the rules. I can't change anything." — Glenn Beck [29:36]
4. Media Consolidation and ‘Too Big to Fail’
Theme: Critique of corporate concentration in media/banking and its consequences for America’s independence and culture.
Key Points:
- Beck reflects on media consolidation: 90% of US media now controlled by 6 companies, compared to over 50 in the 1980s.
- He draws parallels to banking consolidation post-2008, arguing that “fixes” to systemic risks have only made concentrations of power greater.
"What did we do to fix it? We made them bigger. We let them merge…" — Glenn Beck [35:16]
- Warns against allowing mergers (e.g., Netflix, Warner Brothers, Paramount) that could homogenize control over culture.
5. Seven Tools of Manipulation & Societal Division
([51:18]–[62:39])
Theme: How Americans are being manipulated—by politicians, media, foreign adversaries, and algorithms—into hating each other and forfeiting freedom.
Seven Tools Identified:
- Identity Panic: Headlines provoke fear & tribal reactions rather than information. [52:13-52:58]
- Black-and-White Thinking: Saviors/villains narratives destroy principles and nuance. [54:10-54:58]
- False Choices: “You’re with us or against us”—oversimplifies, destroys conversation. [55:17-56:16]
- Outrage Overload: Everything is urgent, leaving people exhausted, docile, & manipulable. [57:25-58:22]
- Algorithmic Radicalization: Social media polarizes, boosted by foreign actors. [58:48-59:41]
- Emotional Hijacking: Real emotions manipulated through false narratives. [60:35-61:36]
- Spiritual Confusion: Faith replaced by politics; division inside churches leads to loss of moral clarity. [61:48-62:39]
Key Insight:
- Break the Spell: When feeling manipulated, pause, ask who benefits from your outrage/confusion, and return to universal truths and principles. [64:17-65:42]
"You are not the problem. You are the target. And if we can all stop being the target and learn to see the trap, we save the Republic."
— Glenn Beck [66:52]
6. Response to Critics Over ‘George AI’
([115:14]–[127:19])
Theme: Glenn introduces George AI, an artificial intelligence trained exclusively on the words of the American founders, offering historically rooted constitutional advice and commentary.
Key Points:
- Beck details the rigorous data curation and "electric fence" around George AI: no outside influence, no hallucinated content, strict fidelity to original documents.
- Responds to critiques from media figures (Adam Kinzinger, Right Wing Watch, CNN) accusing the AI of simply parroting Glenn’s politics.
- Plays sample dialogue in which George AI echoes the values of virtue, discipline, and public morality as the true roots of American freedom—highlighting that if these ideas sound like Beck, it’s because Beck has modeled himself after the founders, not vice versa.
"Yes, it does sound like me. Yes, it does sound like me. You know why? Because I sound like the founders."
— Glenn Beck [123:09]
- Beck predicts increased attacks as the tool becomes more widely available, since it enables ordinary people to push back against “distorted” historical narratives.
7. Interview with Andy Ngo: Conspiracy Theories and the Right
([95:25]–[107:51])
Theme: The dangers of podcast-fueled conspiracy theories, specifically surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and their corrosive effects on justice and unity.
Key Points:
- Ngo warns that the proliferation of unfounded theories can taint jury pools, undermine investigations, and fracture the right.
- Describes how social media and some podcast platforms incentivize “clickbait and perhaps financial motives,” with little ethical oversight.
"Instead of realizing they're wrong, they double down and say that lack of evidence is evidence for something else. This can't continue."
— Andy Ngo [98:02]
- Both Beck and Ngo emphasize the difference between asking honest questions and recklessly impugning the process or individuals for profit or misinformation.
- Ngo asks fellow podcasters to exercise ethical responsibility and push for public transparency during trials, while warning that "slop and junk" content from independent media is as damaging as legacy media failures.
Beck:
"I'm not afraid of questions. I embrace questions. We should ask honest, honest questions. The problem is, as you said, we're not just asking questions now. We are now dividing ourselves..."
— Glenn Beck [99:19]
8. Segment on Jasmine Crockett and Media Satire
([73:25]–[84:55])
Theme: Light-hearted critique and mockery of Texas political candidate Jasmine Crockett’s "low IQ" reputation, viral campaign video, and controversial tax/reparations proposals.
Notable Quotes:
-
"She’s the perfect encapsulation of the modern Democrat Party... She gives us things to talk about and to laugh about. She brings joy into my life."
— Stu [77:17] -
"Here's her tax plan... Black folk not have to pay taxes for a certain amount of time..."
— Jasmine Crockett (clip played by Beck and Stu) [78:20]
This section leans into sarcasm, Beck and Stu playing up Crockett’s celebrity-over-substance campaign and using it as an example of media spectacle.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "Can you name a single expert... that went to jail?" — Glenn Beck [12:46]
- "If accountability disappears, liberty disappears right after it." — Glenn Beck [21:34]
- "You are not the problem. You are the target." — Glenn Beck [66:52]
- "It's not about executive power. It's about executive accountability." — Glenn Beck [21:34]
- "America was built to be a moral and self-governing nation. It's only that foundation that will still save her." — George AI (sample transcript) [122:42]
- "Slop and junk... this whole space exists because we want better content..." — Andy Ngo [106:03]
Important Timestamps
| Topic | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|-------------------| | SCOTUS debate on the “fourth branch”/Ketanji Brown Jackson on experts | [03:11]–[12:46] | | Critique of expert class and lack of accountability | [09:59]–[13:06] | | Discussion of unaccountable bureaucracy and citizens’ loss of agency | [15:22]–[23:46] | | Canadian MAiD case, dangers of medical bureaucracy | [28:08]–[32:58] | | Media consolidation/banking analogy | [33:11]–[37:34] | | Tools of manipulation & division (seven tools of propaganda) | [51:18]–[62:39] | | Solutions to manipulation, civic restoration | [64:17]–[66:52] | | Jasmine Crockett segment—satirical/critical | [73:25]–[84:55] | | Andy Ngo interview—conspiracy theories, Charlie Kirk’s assassination | [95:25]–[107:51] | | Introduction to George AI + media backlash | [115:14]–[127:19] | | George AI’s “dumbed-down” George Washington answer (audio played) | [121:03]–[123:47] |
Episode Highlights & Closing Notes
- The episode’s backbone is a defense of constitutional accountability against both the "expert" bureaucracy and the manipulative impulses of media and technology.
- Beck views efforts to delegitimize his George AI project as proof of how threatening truthful, primary-source-based history is to mainstream narratives.
- The conversation with Andy Ngo acts as a timely intervention against destructive conspiracy thinking while still defending the right of the public to question power.
- The episode is punctuated by moments of satire and sarcasm (especially on the Jasmine Crockett segment), but maintains an undercurrent of urgency about the stakes for the American republic.
For listeners who missed the episode:
This program’s through-line is a call to reclaim personal and civic accountability—resisting both the “fourth branch” of unelected experts and the divisive, manipulative tactics of contemporary media and adversaries, while returning to first principles embodied in the nation's founding documents.
Key Takeaway:
"Free people who can think clearly are the one thing that tyrants and propagandists and foreign adversaries can never defeat." — Glenn Beck [66:52]