What RFK Jr. Should Do with the FDA on Day 1 | Guests: Alex Jones & David Harsanyi | 11/15/24

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Glenn Beck Program | Episode: "What RFK Jr. Should Do with the FDA on Day 1"

Host: Glenn Beck
Guests: Alex Jones & David Harsanyi
Air Date: November 15, 2024
Network: Blaze Podcast Network

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1. Introduction and Overview

[02:44] Stu Burguiere:
"Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program."

[02:57] Glenn Beck:
"Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We've got a lot coming on the program today. We have Alex Jones. He's going to be commenting on exactly what happened yesterday as the government seemed to violate its own rules."

Glenn Beck sets the stage for a critical discussion focused on recent governmental actions, particularly concerning the January 6th Capitol riot investigation and the nomination of RFK Jr. as the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS).

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2. January 6th Capitol Riot Investigation and FBI's Handling

[07:11] Jason Petrill:
"Double Mint Twins. Yeah, they're good dudes, but it's a weird, weird ad campaign for Minty Gum."

Note: This segment primarily revolves around addressing rumors and clarifications regarding Glenn Beck's stance and personal accusations from external sources.

[08:06] Glenn Beck:
"Businesses that use RAMP add up to 5% to their bottom line the first year."

Note: This part includes advertisements that are skipped as per instructions.

[08:34] Glenn Beck:
"So here's what I want to say on this. I am blanket statement for justice and equal justice. Anyone who has done wrong and broken the law should go to jail for the appropriate time... The problem that we're having with the January 6th thing is, stems from the misconduct of the Justice Department in collusion with the Capitol Police, in collusion with the media, in collusion with politicians."

Glenn Beck expresses deep skepticism about the FBI and Department of Justice's (DOJ) handling of the January 6th investigations, suggesting possible corruption and collusion that hindered the identification and prosecution of suspects.

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3. RFK Jr.'s Nomination as HHS Secretary and the FDA

[25:55] Glenn Beck:
"He's going to get through. If they have recess appointments, I will say it's very likely he gets some Democrat votes... So, let me ask you something. They say that Donald Trump, you know, is so divisive and everything else. Can you think of any president that has ever put in a major role, an icon of the other side?"

Glenn Beck delves into the political implications of RFK Jr.'s nomination, questioning the bipartisan support and potential motivations behind it.

[33:27] Glenn Beck:
"I don't trust RFK. You know, he's not personally and I'm not one to judge, but the way he has dealt with women and it's the whole family."

Beck articulates his distrust of RFK Jr., citing personal conduct and broader familial issues as concerns influencing his suitability for the HHS role.

[35:12] Glenn Beck:
"Here's what I'm. Here's what I... and he may have said it all. You have innocent people sitting in prison... Why should the innocent remain in prison so we can sort through and find the good ones and the bad guys?"

Discussing the broader justice system, Beck emphasizes the importance of releasing innocent individuals while still holding accountable those proven guilty, highlighting flaws in the DOJ's processes.

[35:14] Jason Petrill:
"I'm a little, I'm a little, I get a little concerned when you have people who have a long-term worldview that changes in a short period of time and then are elevated to high power, however powerful positions in the government."

Petrill echoes Beck's concerns about RFK Jr.'s sudden shift in views and the potential implications for regulatory bodies like the FDA.

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4. Corruption in DOJ and the Push for Justice Reform

[37:10] Jason Petrill:
"Yeah. I think he is. Yes. The hope I have because of this election is that people stopped listening to those agencies, people stopped listening to the media."

Beck and Petrill discuss the systemic issues within the DOJ, advocating for significant reforms to eliminate corruption and cronyism that hinder true justice.

[42:34] Glenn Beck:
"I want less input from the FDA. And I want an end to the revolving door and the obvious corruption that's coming from money."

Beck calls for restructuring the FDA to reduce corporate influence and eliminate the "revolving door" between regulatory agencies and the industries they oversee.

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5. Pardon Discussions for January 6th Participants

[07:41] Jason Petrill:
"Huh? This is the name of an NFL linebacker? What are you, nuts?"

[08:06] Glenn Beck:
"I have repeatedly called for all nonviolent offenders to be pardoned..."

Beck and Petrill debate the merits and complexities of pardoning individuals involved in the January 6th events, balancing justice for nonviolent offenders against accountability for violent actions.

[16:00] Jason Petrill:
"They are far from perfect. So that's not to say that there are not Democrats with wonderful opinions."

Acknowledging the nuanced positions within political parties, Petrill underscores the importance of not generalizing based on party lines when discussing pardons and justice.

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6. RFK Jr.'s Views on FDA, Regulations, and Crony Capitalism

[35:16] Glenn Beck:
"Let me go back to what he... was going to say on what his main... what I was going to say on what his main... concentrate on getting the pharmaceutical companies and big food."

Beck outlines his expectations for RFK Jr. to tackle corruption within the FDA, targeting the influence of pharmaceutical and food industries to promote genuine public health interests.

[56:19] Glenn Beck:
"You know who they're working for. Casey. Come up with your own science that says this is bad for you or that's bad for you. You know, you do everything right even if it's not protecting people."

Beck emphasizes the need for independent science free from corporate interests, advocating for RFK Jr. to establish unbiased regulatory practices within the FDA.

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7. Guest Segment: Alex Jones on Infowars Legal Issues

[75:12] Glenn Beck:
"Yep."

[75:12] Stu Burguiere:
"Glenn, I'm not kissing your butt. I'm absolutely stunned how you boiled down in two minutes what I've tried to explain you..."

Alex Jones joins the program to discuss the legal battles surrounding Infowars, highlighting perceived government overreach and injustices in the treatment of his media empire.

[76:57] Glenn Beck:
"You can follow him @alexjones.network and @realx Jones on X."

Jones details the challenges faced during the federal auction of Infowars, alleging collusion and unfair practices by the DOJ and federal trustees aimed at punishing rather than restoring.

[78:00] Stu Burguiere:
"...they admit that the Justice Department is heavily involved in directing all of this, just like they got caught directing all the lawfare against Trump."

Jones criticizes the DOJ's actions as politically motivated, drawing parallels with other legal challenges faced by conservative figures.

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8. Discussions on Media Bias and Conspiracy Theories

[90:42] Glenn Beck:
"So you have innocent people sitting in prison. Why should the innocent remain in prison so we can sort through and find the good ones and the bad guys?"

[93:14] Glenn Beck:
"How do you have money in banks? There's nothing. No, there's nothing."

[94:30] E (David Harsanyi):
"The difference between Alex Jones and Rachel Maddow...the left will take a conspiracy theory, they launder it through the media, they polish it up with high production values, they calibrate it to be plausible."

Beck and his guests explore the rise of conspiracy theories within political discourse, critiquing how mainstream media amplifies and legitimizes unfounded claims, leading to widespread misinformation.

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9. Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

[101:36] Glenn Beck:
"Thank you so much, David. I appreciate it. The name of the book is The Rise of Blue Anon..."

Beck wraps up the episode by reinforcing themes of governmental corruption, media bias, and the importance of reforming institutions like the DOJ and FDA to restore true justice and public trust.

[104:35] Glenn Beck:
"Glenn Beck: No, no, no, it's not going to happen. But anyway, it comes Black Friday. You don't want to Ms. RFK Jr being appointed HHS next."

In his concluding statements, Beck reiterates his concerns regarding RFK Jr.'s potential impact on the FDA and the broader implications for American regulatory practices.

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Notable Quotes

• Glenn Beck [08:34]:
  "Anyone who has done wrong and broken the law should go to jail for the appropriate time. If you are breaking windows of the Capitol or a Macy's building during a riot, jail time is warranted for you."

• Jason Petrill [35:12]:
  "I've got producers, Ricky, who's... she is a retard, and the president shouldn't be expected to pardon them. This is probably at the end of her day."

• Alex Jones [75:12]:
  "They admit that the Justice Department is heavily involved in directing all of this, just like they got caught directing all the lawfare against Trump."

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Conclusion

In this episode, Glenn Beck critically examines the DOJ's handling of the January 6th investigations, expressing distrust in federal institutions and advocating for comprehensive justice reform. The discussion pivots to RFK Jr.'s nomination as HHS Secretary, exploring potential reforms within the FDA to eradicate corporate corruption. Guest Alex Jones provides insight into perceived governmental overreach in his legal struggles, further emphasizing themes of systemic injustice and media manipulation. The episode underscores a call for accountability, transparency, and the restoration of true justice within American governance.

Transcript

[Glenn Beck]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program.

[Glenn Beck]

Hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We've got a lot coming on the program today. We have Alex Jones. He's going to be commenting on exactly what happened yesterday as the government seemed to violate its Own rules. Hmm. Haven't seen that. Oh, except January 6th. We got a couple of things to talk about on January 6th. Something that people are accusing me of now regarding January 6th, and I want to clear this one up. But also, have you heard the latest that the phone companies say? No. We have all the data on the phone calls from the pipe bomb people. Well, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Could you say that again? We begin in 60 seconds. Stand by. Remember that time when you. You went into the kitchen one morning and your do was standing there in an apron, you know, just making pancakes from scratch? If the answer to that is yes, I'd like to talk to your drug supplier. You might be taking too many. The answer is no. Your dog doesn't have a choice. He eats whatever it is you put down or doesn't eat what you put down. You want your dog to eat and eat something really good. And they need live things in their food. This is a supplement. This is not a dog food. But you put this on your dog's food and it changes them. It really does. You know, there's a reason they're out in the yard eating stuff that they just laid down. You know, they're missing something. Something in their diet is wrong. That's because if you're feeding your dog kibble food, it's dead food. There's nothing in it that is really good for them. You need to put all of that stuff back in and have it as green as possible. Right now, you can get a free Roughgreens Jumpstart trial bag. Go to roughgreens.com Beck or call 833 Glenn 33. It's 833 Glenn 33, roughgreens.com Beck so new revelations heighten the mystery and the scrutiny of the FBI surrounding one of the most disturbing security failures on the day of the Capitol riot. Cellular carriers have told Congress that they do possess intact phone usage data from the vicinity where two pipe bombs were planted during the January 6th incident. This directly disputes FBI testimony that agents couldn't identify a suspect because the phone data was corrupted. Huh? What's all that about? We are going to find that the FBI and the DOJ was involved and set this whole thing up. I absolutely believe that's what's coming. They had agents that were souping the crowd up. I don't know if agents were, you know, any of the faces that we have seen on television, but you can't trust a damn thing out of the FBI. January 6, 2021. The FBI opened the investigation into the pipe bombers and attempted to identify the suspect by analyzing cell phone data linked to the area surrounding the DNC and the rnc. Two years later, the former assistant director in charge of the Washington field office, who is the guy who, you know, was in charge of the investigation of we're going to kidnap the governor of Michigan. They. He's the guy who oversaw the pipe bomb investigation. He said all of the cellular data was corrupted. Now, why are we just finding out? Why did the cell companies not come out and say, excuse me, here's the cell data. It's not corrupt. Answer. They're afraid of the doj. This is entirely corrupt. Which leads me to something that I don't know. The Thompson twins or the Double Mint twins or whoever they are posted. The Hodge twins, Right?

[Jason Petrill]

Double Mint Twins. Yeah, they're good dudes, but it's a weird, weird ad campaign for Minty Gum.

[Glenn Beck]

So the Hodge twins came out and said, hey, Glenn Beck, is this true about you? I hope not. The breaking news that came out yesterday, Glenn beck at Blaze TV is calling for NFL linebacker arrested for being at the Capitol building on January 6th not to be pardoned by Donald Trump.

[Jason Petrill]

Huh? This is the name of an NFL linebacker? What are you, nuts?

[Glenn Beck]

You do not need my new book to figure out that this is not true, okay? There's no way I even know what you're talking about. Which NFL linebacker? That won't help me because I don't know any of them, okay?

[Jason Petrill]

So that has got to be the. One of the worst Internet rumors I've ever heard.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay? So they write and say, hey, Glenn Beck, is this true? I hope not. We know they all have got to be pardoned. You want pardons for all J. Sixers, right? Would. Would be easier to clear all this up then one of my producers, Ricky, who's. Our realities are. She's. She is.

[Jason Petrill]

You don't want to get Ricky pissed off.

[Glenn Beck]

Do not piss off Ricky. She was a little pissed off. Glenn has repeatedly called for all nonviolent offenders to be pardoned. They respond nonviolent is BS because the feds charged half the people with violence. They all have to be pardoned. If he only. If he only said nonviolent, then he is wrong and should be called out. She said he's not talking about the what. What the feds say who is violent and who isn't. The guy you quoted clearly, clearly has not listened to a second of Glenn and is short of some brain cells. If someone is on camera beating a cop or smashing windows, then, I mean, she said this. I didn't. They're a retard, and the president shouldn't be expected to pardon them. This is probably at the end of her day, which is.

[Jason Petrill]

That's. That's her right. When she wakes up, don't give her. That's not the end of the day.

[Glenn Beck]

She's going for it. Yeah. Strangely, not that much worse than the beginning of her day. But. So here's what I. Here's what I want to say on this. And I think this is really important. I am blanket statement for justice and equal justice. Anyone who has done wrong and broken the law should go to jail for the appropriate time. If I believe if you are breaking windows of the Capitol or a Macy's building during a riot, if you are stealing stuff from Macy's or throwing flagpoles at police at the Capitol, jail time is warranted for you. Now, that's my blanket statement. Now let's break that down a bit, because it gets really hard in this case because of the misconduct by the doj. For instance, have you seen the video of the woman who police say was violent? She was in a crowd in one of those tunnels just trying to get out, and she was trying to push her way out because it was getting very violent. And police pinned her up against the wall and then started beating her with a club, and she was the one charged. Okay. So I don't trust the charges that were presented in court. Now, I want you to know that my stance is a blanket statement. I'm for anybody who is violent going to jail. Anyone that could be proven violent should go to jail. A lot of footage in it. Yeah. In an equal justice sort of way. This is Donald Trump's stance. He said there should be pardons based on a case by case basis. That's his stance as of. What time is it right now. Okay. That's his stance. I think that's a reasonable stance. I want the same kind of justice for January Sixers as I want for BLM rioters. All Americans left and right should want this. Okay? Now, with that said, here's one thing that you. You have to understand. If you want to go all John Adams, which I think you might have to. On this, if you want to go all John Adams on this, what we do in our society and have long done in our justice system, if. If those who committed a crime, even murder or any other heinous act, if the prosecution withheld information, which the DOJ did in this, worked in collusion against the defendant, any defendant, then all need to be released as the entire pot has been contaminated. And as John Adams says, I would rather have five guilty men go free than one innocent man be wrongfully imprisoned. This is the standard the Justice Department has always held until recently. The problem that we're having with the January 6 thing is, stems from the misconduct of the Justice Department in collusion with the Capitol Police, in collusion with the media, in collusion with politicians. And anyone who actually cares about justice knows that this is the standard long held by the courts and Americans, any Americans seeking true justice. If the prosecution has done anything wrong, which they have, then everyone has to be released. That's John Adams stand. And I'm all for it if we want to have that conversation. Blanket, I am for justice, but you cannot have justice if your Justice Department is corrupt.

[Jason Petrill]

Hmm.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

I mean, I don't know what's controversial about that viewpoint.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, it never has been.

[Jason Petrill]

I mean, there is a clear standard as to who should be released as being, you know, because they were too violent in these moments. And the standard is Donald Trump's eyeballs. He has whatever power. He wants to pardon these people, so the people he chooses are the ones that are gonna get pardoned. I don't think if he sees. Donald Trump's pretty pro police. If Donald Trump sees a video of a guy hitting a police officer over the head with a flagpole, I don't think he's going to want to release those people with lesser pen punishment. Now, you might be right. Maybe he just does it all. He talked about that, and, you know, he bounces around with specific language.

[Glenn Beck]

His latest thing is case by case.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

So here. But here's the problem. Let me play devil's advocate.

[Jason Petrill]

Sure.

[Glenn Beck]

Here's the problem with this. You have innocent people sitting in prison.

[Jason Petrill]

Mm.

[Glenn Beck]

Because this is why we always release people. You know, you have a prosecutor that is found doing one thing wrong in one case, and if there is any kind of suspicion that that kind of behavior has happened with other cases, they dismiss all of them. They say, tainted. This prosecutor is tainted. And so we have to release all of them because there might be others that this happened to that are innocent, sitting in jail. This is the penalty for the Justice Department. Hey, all that work you did, all that time and making the case, all the. All of your prestige for, you know, being somebody who is bringing people to justice, it's all flushed down the toilet because you didn't do it right this one time or these three times. Okay, so you have innocent people sitting in jail. Why should they have to wait, which a process that could take months. Why should the innocent remain in prison so we can sort through and find the good ones and the bad guys?

[Jason Petrill]

Well, I mean, I think this, when it comes to pardoning, this is completely Donald Trump's call. Yeah, he has, this is his most king like power. So he can do whatever he wants. And that is sort of the beginning and the end of the story. So, you know, I mean, when it comes down to making these decisions, Donald Trump, it seems like, as we've seen over the past couple weeks, has really been thinking about all of this stuff quite a bit. So my guess is he's got a pretty good handle on as to the few people. I bet it's a few that he thinks are over the line and should not be pardoned. But I mean, like you of all people to be questioned on this. You know, Steve Baker works here. He's one of the people that would need to be pardoned. Right. He has also spent a good chunk of the past four years in courtrooms reporting on others who also should be out of prison. He's gone through thousands of hours of video to exonerate people who were involved, who were there on January 6th and charged falsely. I mean, the amount of work that the Blaze has done by itself is I think, as much or more than any other news organization out there to make sure the people responsible for overreach are called out and brought to the attention of someone like Donald Trump who can now do what he wants to do with it.

[Glenn Beck]

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[Jason Petrill]

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[Glenn Beck]

Everybody's waiting for the man with a bag. Cause Christmas is coming again. New album Home for Christmas is by Cheyenne Grace. I produced it. You're gonna love it. It's available on Black Friday at all platforms. Uh, all right, so let me suggest this, Stu. That because we know the Justice Department used the. Just the system as a punishment. Okay. Usually you go through a fair, you know, fair trial and everything else, but they dragged this out. They did everything they could to persecute these people for the last four years. Would you agree with that?

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, they've.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

I mean, like, Jeh Johnston is my example of this. Like, guys seem to have done basically nothing, and now he's going to prison.

[Glenn Beck]

Correct.

[Jason Petrill]

Why?

[Glenn Beck]

And for the last four years, his life has been hanging in the balance. Yep. Okay.

[Jason Petrill]

Steve Baker, another example of that.

[Glenn Beck]

Never knowing it is horrible what these people went through. If you broke into Macy's, you would not spend more than four years in prison. Okay? Right. So I would suggest that everyone is released with time served. However, then you take it case by case. And those who legitimately did something bad, those people do not have it wiped from the record. So they're not pardoned. Everybody gets time served. Then you pardon everybody. So it's wiped from your record. Everybody who was parading. Yeah. I mean, because that's the only thing I can think of that would be fair for everybody. You can't let innocent people sit in jail another day. This should be one of the first things he does when he gets into office. But you. But there were bad people, okay? This is. You know what this is? Look, there were good people on both sides. Not the Nazis, okay? They're doing exactly the same thing. They're going to say Donald Trump is just letting everybody out. And they will use the few that actually did something wrong. Meanwhile, we all know those who actually did a lot of the wrong or encouraged it have walked away. We don't know the pipe bomber because the cellular information was corrupt. Just that alone should be the end of January6 should be the end of it. Just them saying for four years, well, it was corrupt. And now because times have changed and everybody's Worried that, oh, I'm going to get caught up in this. Now the cell phone companies come out and say, yeah, it wasn't corrupt. We gave them everything. That alone should be enough of a. Of a fraud on the American people and on everybody who was going to court to dismiss this from everybody. But there were people that did wrong. Okay, so let's not pardon them. But time served.

[Jason Petrill]

I mean, that's an approach. I think it's a valid one.

[Glenn Beck]

Trying to be fair.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, I think. Look, I understand that right now there's, like, Donald Trump's gonna come into office, he's gonna make these decisions. We don't have any input on it. Frankly, the input that we had on it was whether we voted for him or not.

[Glenn Beck]

But we should have an opinion.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, My opinion is, look, if you beat the hell out of a police officer, I don't care. I don't care if you happen to do it on January 6th or any other day. You stay in prison for as long as your term is. And I don't feel bad about it for a second.

[Glenn Beck]

I agree with you. I agree with you. However, we know they gave extended sentences, and we know this whole thing was corrupt from the start. So how do you. How do you not punish the people who are in prison? Their lives have been destroyed. How do you get them out of jail today so they don't have to wait in line and spend another six months or a year in prison wrongfully?

[Stu Burguiere]

Glenn Beck.

[Glenn Beck]

All right, we're gonna go to rfk. I have been waiting to talk to Stu about.

[Jason Petrill]

That'll be fun. It'll be fun. You know what? I'm in a good mood, though, Claire.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, good.

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[Glenn Beck]

All right. You don't want to Ms. RFK Jr being appointed HHS next. It's the most wonderful time of the year. Christmas cannot come fast enough. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. We're glad that you're here and listening today. I want to talk about rfk. RFK has been named the HHS secretary.

[Jason Petrill]

Nominated?

[Glenn Beck]

Yes, nominated. Okay. He's going to get through.

[Jason Petrill]

I mean, he's going to get through. If they have recess appointments, I will say it's very likely he gets some Democrat votes. I mean, the first people off the bench to make sure they were cheering this on were Democrats. So very possible he gets a bunch of Democrats votes for this and he does get through. If they go through confirmation.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me ask you something. They say that Donald Trump, you know, is so divisive and everything else. Can you think of any president that has ever put in a major role, an icon of the other side?

[Jason Petrill]

I can't. Neither can I just ask. This is just a question. Any part of you a little concerned that we now have two lifelong Democrats nominated to very high level positions, Not Tulsi.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm not worried about Tulsi. Good. I've had enough conversations, just the two of us, no cameras, no microphones, eye to eye.

[Jason Petrill]

And look, Republicans are far from perfect. So that's not to say that there are not Democrats with wonderful opinions. I'm a little, I'm a little, I get a little concerned when you have people who have a long term worldview that changes in a short period of time and then are elevated to high power, however powerful positions in the government.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't trust rfk. You know, he's not personally and I'm not one to judge, but the way he has dealt with women and it's the whole family. Okay, yes. You know, not been good, not been good, not been good.

[Jason Petrill]

And you know, but he's not being nominated for husband. That's, that's the lady, I would say.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. Yeah. So here's the, here's the thing with rfk. I have talked to him and if I was to hold myself to the standard I have always applied to everyone else, if you can tell me long held vision of something and I'M right on this. And then you flip. You should be able to tell me exactly when that happened, exactly when you went, you know, enough is enough. Yeah, okay.

[Jason Petrill]

And he's certainly gone through stuff that would. That would create a change.

[Glenn Beck]

He's told me that, and he told me that story. It was during COVID Was it censorship.

[Jason Petrill]

Just of him or what was.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't remember seeing the state starting to take things and going way overboard. He saw what he had always preached, but he thought that people would be more reasonable. Okay. He never thought, well, you know, my government, my. My people will never go wrong. We'll never do that. Just like many Republicans think you know their side. No, both people are in both parties. People go wrong a lot. They go rogue and they go authoritarian. And so when he saw, especially in California and New York, what was happening, and you were told, you are not really a member of society unless you inject this into your body, he realized, holy cow, I've been wrong on this.

[Jason Petrill]

And he's been right on the issue of vaccine mandates for as long as I've known. He's never been a guy who's wanted vaccine mandates, but that's been, of course, the thing he opposed. The problem, of course, with authoritarians is they like to oppose. They like to support mandates on things they like and oppose them on things they don't. That's where I would disagree with his fundamental worldview. But he does. He does claim to have changed that.

[Glenn Beck]

Correct. And the proof will be in the pudding. Yeah. You know, if he gets in and he starts taking away choices on things, then we know he really hasn't changed what I'm looking for on the vaccine front. I happen to believe there's something wrong with the vaccines that we're doing, that maybe the combination of them. I don't know what it is, but when your kids are getting 30 to 80 different vaccines and autism is going through the roof, something's wrong. Just like the peanut allergy thing. I don't know what causes that, but it wasn't happening to us when I was a kid. I mean, you could. You could have slathered peanut butter on the top of everybody's desk in every classroom in America when I was going to school, and nobody would be like, I got peanut allergies, wouldn't have happened. So what happened to us? And it is important that we look into that. That doesn't mean that you have to be forced to, you know, get rid of jiff or whatever it is. Unless it's clearly poison, which Is not. I want to know what's happening to our health, why our bodies are like this. I happen to believe that there is too much, too much in heavily or what do they call it, ultra processed foods which have saved the world from starving. I mean, it's a balancing act. It has saved the world from starving. However, in our case, because we're never starving here. Has this been whacked way out of balance for America? I don't know the answer, but I think that's what science should be looking into, not our HHS secretary saying, you know, we're looking into global warming because it affects the health of black children. What are you talking about? Okay, now studies, by the way, RFK.

[Jason Petrill]

Would have absolutely adored not too long ago, maybe.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know. I trust him as about as far as I can throw it.

[Jason Petrill]

And you do know he was up for. He was going to be also, this is not the first cabinet position he's been considered for. The other one was EPA head under Barack Obama, which would have been a nightmare, Right? Would have been a nightmare.

[Glenn Beck]

And Donald Trump knows that. I mean, yep, Donald Trump has said on stage. He has said it in person. I know what we have here. He's got radical ideas. And as long as he stays in his lane and we're not going, you know, all over with global warming and everything else, I think we should listen to him.

[Jason Petrill]

We should be clear. His lane in this particular case is running an operation with a $2 trillion budget.

[Glenn Beck]

I know that.

[Jason Petrill]

So I. Can he improve it? I'm sure there are improvements. He can make things like over, you know, trying to, you know, vaccine mandates is the easiest one. Right. I, I don't necessarily agree with you on vaccines. Obviously there are many arguments that, you know, well, that would push back against the things that you're concerned about. And you can choose yourself whether, you know, you vaccinated your kids or not. And I can get to choose that for me. And I think if he has had this change from authoritarian, which I don't think there's any question that's what he was, I mean, obviously calling.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, he said it. He told me he was.

[Jason Petrill]

He was that guy. If he's had that change from that to a person who respects personal liberties, I think he has in some areas. I'm concerned when he's convinced he's right about something, that those inclinations go away.

[Glenn Beck]

And that's where President Trump comes in to make sure. Yes.

[Jason Petrill]

And look, Trump, look, Trump loves his. He's famous for bringing McDonald's to football. It's not like some crude when it comes to ingredients. He likes his food. He likes. You know, there's no question about that.

[Glenn Beck]

Here's what Robert F. Kennedy should be encouraged to do. First of all, I don't trust science anymore. Do you?

[Jason Petrill]

I mean, you trust something, right? You're trusting something. You trusting the. You're trusting the RFK version of science.

[Glenn Beck]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't. Because I don't know. Everything's.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, so that's true.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, I don't trust. I'm looking for gravity. That's what I'm looking. The planet is round.

[Jason Petrill]

Don't get the people starting getting them started. I know.

[Glenn Beck]

So I'm looking for things that are universally true.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And are not changed by political politics or opinions of anyone. This is true. I don't know if we have those scientists anymore because the whole system has been so corrupted. We have some.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, I think we have many. I think we have a lot of really good scientists who do a lot of really good work. So do I trust science? Yeah, I trust science, but I don't trust necessarily the public messengers of science. And that look includes RFK Jr.

[Glenn Beck]

I know.

[Jason Petrill]

That I don't trust. That's just who. And that's why I always feel like the answer at the end of this is individual freedom. Individual it is ability to make choices. And if we start banning things because RFK Jr doesn't like them, I'm against that.

[Glenn Beck]

Here's what I'm. Here's what I.

[Jason Petrill]

Whether you think they're good or not. Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me go back to what, what he. What I was going to say on what his main. This is what he should concentrate on getting the pharmaceutical companies and big food. And I don't even care if it's big spoon, big bowl, big fat guys. Anybody who is out there that benefits from what the FDA approves and doesn't. I don't want revolving doors where you're working for the FDA and then you get a sweetheart gig at some food or pharmaceutical company. I don't want that. They should be adversaries. Okay? They should be adversaries. They should be reasonable. But you can't keep going from one to the other. He's got to clean up this nightmare. It's a problem of crony capitalism.

[Jason Petrill]

It's a problem. Although it's also a challenging problem because of course, who knows about pharmaceutical medications other than people? You don't come from the janitor industry and become an expert on this you have to have some experience in understanding how it works. But you're right, it should not be. Crony capitalism is wrong. And I always hate that term because it's not capitalism.

[Glenn Beck]

No, it's not.

[Jason Petrill]

When the government has a lot of power to do things over corporations, it's not. It's not capitalism at all.

[Glenn Beck]

Socialism or fascism. So here's the thing. There are enough really well qualified doctors. We found them during COVID that they like science, they like doctors, they like medicine.

[Jason Petrill]

It's true.

[Glenn Beck]

They don't like the lies that are involved and the money that is exchanging hands behind the scenes in record numbers. I'm against that. I think you're against that. That's what I hope RFK does.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah. And he may, you know, I think he will on some things. I'm concerned. I am legitimately concerned about it. I don't think it's a great appointment. I would pick somebody else. And if you were going to give RFK Jr. A role, I would prefer it to be in more of a. An adversarial role. Advisory role. Right. Something that they can just say, okay, no, the problem is you put him in as HHS secretary when you don't want to replace him. You're talking about another confirmation process. So he's going to have a lot of leeway and I think probably too much leeway, but I don't know.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me take a quick break and come back on this. Because regulation is one of the top priorities for him. Just slashing regulation. Trump rfk. He's like, the FDA is so corrupt it should almost be shut down. He may have said it should be shut down. Let me, let me start there. When we come back. First, let me talk to you about the Ministry of Preborn they are doing. I mean, they are the champions of the cause. First of all, I said this in a speech the other day. I was talking to a bunch of Catholics about abortion and I have to tip the hat to the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church cared about abortion before anybody else cared. And they've been fighting on the front lines forever. Now. Preborn has come in in the last, I don't know, decade or two. And they really have developed a system that is so smart and so. Well, I can't say I don't want to reveal anything. They're just really smart and they know how to attack this and it is the right thing to do because they're talking about the moms and the babies right now. For $28, you can sponsor an ultrasound that, that doubles the chance that mom will choose life and through a match, your tax deductible gift will be doubled. So Preborn also supplies moms with diapers, car seats, counseling, books, I mean, everything. I'm incredibly proud to to work with preborn and I'm so proud that you feel the same way. So let's keep it going. One ultrasound is $28. 140 will save five babies. And babies are worth fighting for. Maybe you can make a monthly donation of $28. Donate securely at £250. Say the keyword baby. That's £250, keyword baby. Or go to preborn.combeck it's preborn.com Beck all gifts are tax deductible and Preborn has a four star charity rating. Fight, fight, fight for the babies sponsored by Preborn.

[Stu Burguiere]

You're listening to the Glenn Beck Program.

[Jason Petrill]

So you may have noticed at college campuses all across the country, there's an awful lot of anti Semitism going around these days, especially after the events of October 7th of last year. Sometimes it seems like those things that we were supposed to never forget get forgotten.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. So suddenly you're against rape of innocent children and women?

[Jason Petrill]

Not suddenly, but yes, I have guessed it. There's a film coming out this month that is a powerful reminder of what the evil of anti Semitism looks like and what courage in the face of that evil looks like, called Bonhoeffer.

[Glenn Beck]

I just watched it. It is powerful. Really it is. So I love this story. Bonhoeffer is one of my heroes, somebody I really would like to be like.

[Jason Petrill]

I didn't even know who he was until you. And I've watched a lot of World War II stuff.

[Glenn Beck]

I know. How did we miss this guy?

[Jason Petrill]

Well, you didn't miss him.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, well, I did for. Until I was 35 or 40. Yeah. Multiple decades.

[Jason Petrill]

But his message is really, really important. His story is incredible. And I remember Glenn saying to me, someone's going to make an amazing movie about this.

[Glenn Beck]

This is it.

[Jason Petrill]

This is it. It's been done. This is great. So you want to go see this movie? You know, he was shifting from preaching peace to an assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler. The entire thing is incredible. You can find out this Thanksgiving by ordering your tickets in [e-mail] Beck about how amazing this guy's story is. Check this out. Right now, it's angel.combeck angel.com Beck get your tickets today. Maybe it's much too early in the.

[Glenn Beck]

Game, but I thought I'd ask you just the same. What are you doing?

[Jason Petrill]

What Number does her album need to get to on Spotify for you to do duet? That is also released on Spotify. That's the question you won't answer. I can just see you were just singing the song. And you've got great voice, you and her.

[Glenn Beck]

I would love to do, but I would never want to anybody to hear it.

[Jason Petrill]

Oh, I know. That's the whole point. I want to hear it and I.

[Glenn Beck]

Want people on number one on Spotify.

[Jason Petrill]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. Not a chance that happens if it.

[Jason Petrill]

Gets the number one on Spotify.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. All right. Okay.

[Jason Petrill]

I don't know what the chart looks like. We'll have to look.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, it's not going to happen. But anyway, it comes Black Friday. It's Cheyenne Grace Home for Christmas. It's a great, great CD for Christmas. Okay, so let me go. Let me go. Here. Here's what rfk. Another thing I hope he does is just cut the federal regulations like crazy. Well, now some people are gonna say you can't do that. Raw milk. Oh, shut up. 30, 30 states say it's okay for raw milk.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. The FBI has made it almost. I'm not sorry. The FDA has made it almost impossible. The Amish, they've never had anyone getting sick from their milk. And yet the FDA was in their face all the time trying to shut them down.

[Jason Petrill]

In a way, I'm glad they were because they came out and voted actually worked against them.

[Glenn Beck]

And I appreciate that. So, you know, there's stuff that we know and you know, you can have standards. The problem is, is their fecal material on the cow's teeth. As long as they're clean, I know. As long as it's clean and sanitary, you don't have a problem. You don't need the pasteurization. Okay, okay. He needs to cut these things out. Do you know how yellow fruit loops are? How that came to be yellow? Number five, they went to the FDA and they said, hey, we want to make free loops. We want to make them yellow. They said, okay, prove that they're safe. Wait until you hear the process on how they're made. It's insane. It's absolute corruption. It is a money laundering system that has to come to an end. I'll explain it. Coming up.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Glenn Beck]

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[Jason Petrill]

Compromise we gotta stay together.

[Glenn Beck]

If we.

[David Harsanyi]

Go to survive.

[Glenn Beck]

Stand up straight and hold the line It's a new day I turn around. Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. All right, we're going to talk about aliens. Believe it or not, there was a hearing on Capitol Hill nobody paid attention to, but Jason did. Jason Petrill, who is our chief researcher for the TV program and radio program, he's gonna join us to talk about that. But I also wanna finish this conversation with rfk. And you know, I don't understand libertarians, how they're not seeing now caveat here, not necessarily rfk, but they're not seeing that this is the greatest gift to libertarians ever. The stated goal at least is to just dismantle the big state. This is fantastic. That's why I'm excited. But let's talk about RFK in 60 seconds. Oh, and Alex Jones joins me at the bottom of the hour. Good ranchers, we should be grateful all year round for the blessings that God has seen fit to bestow upon us and our nation. I mean, we are living in the greatest country, the greatest land, I believe in the world. One of the things I'm thankful for is the freedom to be a rancher, to raise my own cattle. And if I want a steak, I can go to the store and buy a steak. The meat I choose is either from my cows or from good ranchers, which are probably some of my neighbor's cows during their Thanksgiving special. You can choose any box of their 100% American meat, their wild caught seafood and you'll get a free 10 pound spiral cut ham. Free. All you have to do is shop with Good ranchers. You're directly supporting the local farms and ranchers in the United states. So it's 100% American meat. Get a free 10 bow spiral cut ham connected directly to American farms and the ranches this [e-mail] if the food you eat, you want to know what's in it. You want to know what vaccine the cattle have been getting, what it's been fed and where it's from. If that matters to you, put the car keys down and go. Stop going to the grocery store. Just go to goodranchers.com use the promo code glenn. Goodranchers.com promo code glenn. All right, Jason, I know you're here to talk about, you know, UFOs and other crazy stuff, but I want to continue this conversation. And you did the research for a show that we did on the fda. Crazy. Crazy. It's crazy. And I think this, this is the kind of stuff that I want RFK to dismantle. I want him to dismantle the money going back and forth from the drug companies. The revolving door, you know, then Bush, God, why would I think of him? Trump is doing this with Big tech, too. You work for the government. You are not going to work for big tech for 10 years. Good. Same thing should be true with pharmaceutical companies and big food. And here's why. Froot Loops comes to the FDA and they say, we want to make a new product called Froot Loops, and we want to make some of them yellow. So we need. What is it? Yellow number five.

[David Harsanyi]

One of those numbers. Yeah, one of those numbers sounds like concentration camp chemical.

[Stu Burguiere]

Really?

[Glenn Beck]

Whatever it is, Yellow number five and.

[Jason Petrill]

Delicious concentration camp chemicals.

[Glenn Beck]

So the FDA says, okay, well, you have to prove that yellow number five is good, is okay to put in. They don't take a percentage of. How many people have we said yellow number five is okay for? So if it's in everybody's food, that changes all the calculations. But, but forget about that. We're only talking about Froot Loops. So they say, you have to show us the study. So now think of global warming. The food company goes to their group of known and trusted scientists and say, we need a study that shows yellow number five is safe. And they're like, oh, we're going to do that study. We're going. It's going to be fair and balanced and totally on the up and up.

[Jason Petrill]

You seem skeptical a little bit.

[Glenn Beck]

Just like I am with studies that are paid for by the people who are going to benefit from that study. It's not neutral The FDA then is given that study, after it comes back and says yellow number five is fine. They've given that study and they. So the FDA says, okay, so the study, you. You got the scientists to approve. Uh huh. And it was a really tough fight. They really dug deep. So, okay, good, we'll approve it. Give us how much money is it? You remember?

[David Harsanyi]

Oh, it's insane. But it's per batch.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. So it's not just. Yeah, we've proven it. So, okay, this for Froot Loops, it's every time that they have to. They make a new batch of Froot Loops, they're pouring yellow number five in. They have to apply for a new license for that batch. Okay, well, wait. It's either good or it's not. Why? Why? Let me ask you something. Why do you keep coming to me and giving me all this money? You know, I mean, maybe someday I can do something for you, you know, Maybe. Maybe, hey, I got a job opening. Maybe one of you guys want to come over here and release things with us. That's the problem. And that's what I hope they get rid of.

[Jason Petrill]

Are you looking for the FDA to do more or less in this process?

[Glenn Beck]

I'm looking for a. I'm looking for somebody that is neutral.

[Jason Petrill]

Right. But I'm asking specifically the fda, which I guess in this theory, in this concept here, we're calling FDA neutral, which I don't know that we necessarily agree with, but in theory, like they're the neutral party here, which I think has all sorts of problems. So like my. I think what you're describing is a funding mechanism. Right? FDA is massive. It costs a lot of money and they're paying for the FDA to continue to go.

[Glenn Beck]

Half of half of the money from the fda. Okay. Half of their budget comes from food and pharmaceutical companies. Right?

[Jason Petrill]

So like, let's say if you stopped that, you'd cut the FDA in half.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes.

[Jason Petrill]

And you. And that's. So that's the direction we're looking for. We want less input from the fda.

[Glenn Beck]

I want less input from the fda. And I want an end to the revolving door and the obvious corruption that's coming from money.

[David Harsanyi]

So when you say the funding issue, that translated as a crony issue. This is everything that the left used to hate. Everything. Oh yeah, it's everything. Like, I'm a libertarian more than anything else. I guess I'm libertarian light. So when I first heard about this, I got that the person that actually did the bulk of this research was one of the biggest hippies on Our team. And you know who I'm talking about. One of the biggest hippies. And I was like, smoking.

[Glenn Beck]

You know who it is? Dope smoking. Kev.

[David Harsanyi]

Not that one, the other big hippie. But when I was like, food, I don't give a crap.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't give it.

[David Harsanyi]

Like, if I want to poison my body, I want to poison my body. But then when it got me was when I saw the cronyism angle. And that's why I don't get libertarians on this. This is everything they hate and the left hate used to be about big government. They are getting rich off of an alliance with a lot of these companies.

[Glenn Beck]

And it appears as though science takes a backpack backseat. They're sitting in the back of the bus, the experts.

[David Harsanyi]

And you can apply this to everything that we hate now about big government, like climate. Yeah. Anything else? The push for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah from the progressive agenda right now where they say, oh, but the experts are telling us this. Well, the experts are employed by the people pushing their poison.

[Jason Petrill]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

So it's paid directly to. If you understand why we have a problem with clients. Climate science. Just take what you know about climate science, that this is all being done by the people who want this to be real because they want. They want the money to keep coming in. You're not. You're not denying the planet is getting, you know, is going to kill us all within, you know, five minutes. You're not getting any money if your study comes out and says, no, that's not true. You don't get money. So the scientists sometimes will come back with the results that the people paying for it want.

[David Harsanyi]

This would. This would be like if Elon Musk wants to sell his EVs and he produces this huge report saying that the world is spontaneously going to combust in just two years unless you adhere to his research that his scientists did. And trust us, it's great.

[Glenn Beck]

And by the way. And by the way, the lithium battery study that I just did, Fires don't start with lithium batteries. There's not a problem.

[David Harsanyi]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

So the issue is that you believe that these food companies are proving things that are theoretically not helpful or that are harmful, and then they're producing these studies and they're giving them the fda, and the FDA is just approving them. So would you.

[Glenn Beck]

And the FDA is not, you know, the fda. I'm sketchy on this, and you might be able to help me out on this. The FDA made the food pyramid. The food pyramid that we've all grown up saying, this is absolutely right. They designed that through the food companies.

[Jason Petrill]

Okay.

[Glenn Beck]

So it should be through science and through knowing what is.

[Jason Petrill]

So who's doing these studies if the food companies aren't paying for them, who's paying for them?

[David Harsanyi]

The food companies.

[Jason Petrill]

Are the food companies paying for them? I'm saying in your vision of the.

[Glenn Beck]

Future, I think there could be a tax on these food companies or pharmaceutical companies.

[Jason Petrill]

So they would still be paying for them.

[Glenn Beck]

They'd still be paying for them, but they're not picking the scientist. And it's not just the scientist at General Foods say.

[Jason Petrill]

So you want a larger independence for the fda. It should be deciding who they're the regulator.

[David Harsanyi]

They are the regulator. It should be on them to prove it's safe or not.

[Jason Petrill]

Aren't you answering your own questions why libertarians don't like it? You're arguing for a larger role for the fda. That's why they don't like it.

[David Harsanyi]

Larger responsibility.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, right.

[Jason Petrill]

My vision, I'm much more on the side of. The FDA has nothing to do with this. I would much rather have the FDA basically shut down and not have any role in this whatsoever. Now, that is a. It's an old school American view, but it is. I don't like government control of this stuff and government input. But I think that's why the libertarians don't like it.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Jason Petrill]

Like what, what, what, what the mark. What they're doing now, if I'm understanding this correctly, is that the companies are basically on their own to come up with science that proves this. And the FDA basically goes along with it for money. For money.

[Glenn Beck]

Right, Right.

[Jason Petrill]

But again, half of their budget. Right. The other alternative to fund that half of the budget is taxpayers.

[Glenn Beck]

That's the other.

[Jason Petrill]

That's the other alternative.

[Glenn Beck]

Or taxing. Or taxing the food companies.

[Jason Petrill]

Okay. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And the more pharmaceuticals.

[Jason Petrill]

Right.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. You want, you want this service.

[Jason Petrill]

Either way, we're paying for it eventually. Right? We're paying for it in our food or I can't say. So again, I can understand the problems with this. And this of course, is true. Right. Companies constantly produce science that helps themselves. It happens in global warming and everything else. I just think that like my. I'm concerned. Here's my concern. Here's my concern. I don't want the. I'm from a conservative movement that doesn't want the federal government to make me healthy. I'm from a vision of conservatism that doesn't want the federal government to make me anything.

[Glenn Beck]

Correct.

[Jason Petrill]

I am from. This is A line in the sand for me. And I know a lot of people don't care about it, but I am from the conservative movement that yells at Michael Bloomberg for getting rid of large sodas. That's me.

[Glenn Beck]

That's me too.

[Jason Petrill]

That is 100% me. I've seen Jason too much at Taco Bell to know that he is. I know he's on my side on that part of it.

[Glenn Beck]

I do not want, I don't want the government to tell me what I can eat, what I can't eat, you know, But I would like, I would like a. Some science to say, hey, Stu, not good. And not from Monsanto and not necessarily from the government that wants to control everything.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, there should be a way to get neutral science, but we don't have that now. And honestly there's been a lot of.

[Jason Petrill]

Neutral science produced about food coloring.

[Glenn Beck]

A lot of it.

[Jason Petrill]

And you can choose whether to like those studies. There has been some that have some indications of negative aspects. There have been many, many that have been like, eh, doesn't seem like there's much here. But like, you know, that being said, like the government comes in and if the government approves a study, is that now gospel? Like, I don't think that's what. But we want.

[Glenn Beck]

I think like science is always changing. Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

I mean it's not. It's a false understanding of it is changing. Science doesn't change. But like, you know, I am concerned because, look, this is a guy, RFK Jr. Who has a very strong opinion on a lot of things and it is not. My disagreement with him is that, well, scientific consensus says X, Y and Z, therefore he's bad. That's not what my belief is at all. He has in his head his own consensus and he is going to attract, I believe, I am concerned about that. He is going to apply his mental consensus over a lot of things that I don't necessarily want changed. I want to make the decisions for myself. And as long as we live in a world like, if he, what he winds up doing with this role is saying, hey, you can sell raw milk all over the place. I'm not going to be concerned about it at all.

[Glenn Beck]

Well, here's, here's the thing. You, you've. I learned this 50 years ago, 40 years ago. It's never a problem if you're selling a Volkswagen and the client buys it and you've paid for a Volkswagen and it runs like a Rolls Royce. No, it's great if you buy a Rolls Royce and it runs like A Volkswagen. There's hell to be paid. So what he is selling us, his Rolls Royce that he is selling us right now is we're going to cut regulation. We're going to get out and make things your choice and give you the transparency that you need to make good choices. But we're not going to force anybody to do anything. Okay. That's the Rolls Royce that he's promising. If he starts to run the Volkswagen way, which is more federal regulation, less, then there'll be hell to be paid because you're not. That's not what you're selling us right now.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, I think.

[Glenn Beck]

Would you agree with that?

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah. Look, I. He's going to do some things I'm really going to like, I'm sure.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

Of it.

[David Harsanyi]

I think it's baby steps. Like I would love to get rid of the FDA as well. You know me, I would love to just dismantle 95% of the bureaucracy. But let's take baby steps. Let's at least start with. Let's not let them collude with big food, big pharma and all that. Make a ton of money off of our expense. I start there.

[Glenn Beck]

I actually think, I mean, he has said himself the FDA should be shut down and he said 90% of it should be shut down immediately. I'm all for that. I don't need a baby step. I'm ready. Okay, let's do that. You know, let's just know what we're. What we're trying to do here is to make the government accountable to the people and giving the people their own rights back that we stupidly gave to the federal government. All right, let me talk to you about Patriot Mobile. Did you know that all Fridays matter? Yeah. It's not just Black Friday. Black Friday is important. Don't. But all Fridays matter, don't they? Patriot Mobile believes that all Fridays matter. And that's why they're running a special right now. You can get a free smartphone just for switching. Patriot Mobile is the nation's only Christian mobile company and it's on the same cell towers as the major carriers. So you get the same great service but at half the cost. Patriot Mobile has affordable, customizable plans for any family and they'll donate a portion of your bill to conservative causes. They're America's only Christian conservative mobile phone company and their mission is to passionately defend our God given constitutional rights and freedoms. Keep your number and for a limited time get a free smartphone. Patriot mobile.com Beck patriotmobile.com Beck or call 972 Patriot. Use the promo code Friday. Again, that's a free smartphone. If you use the promo code Friday, patriot mobile.com Beck or 972 Patriot. 10 seconds. Station ID. Christmas cannot come soon enough. And my new Christmas album that I produced is coming out, Black Friday, on all platforms. So here's one of the things that I like. Trump is going to repeal the EV tax credit. Okay, now that hurts Elon Musk. And I've always had a problem with Elon Musk taking these, you know, kickbacks from the government. He's always taken them, but he has always said, don't give them. But I'm not going to leave something on the table that you're offering everybody else. That's Donald Trump's issue with the tax code. Look, I have lawyers. You want me to pay more, then fine, change the law. Otherwise, I'm saving every dime legally that I can.

[Jason Petrill]

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[Glenn Beck]

Yes. So, and, and Elon Musk came out yesterday and said, I want that to go away. He said, no, we should not spend a dime on charging stations. No.

[Jason Petrill]

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[Glenn Beck]

He said, do we do. Did we do federal funding for gasoline stations? No.

[David Harsanyi]

I was reading this amazing analysis on what he did that's just so unorthodox. Like, he gave patents away, said, I'm not patenting these things. I'll give you the technology. Gave this, gave the technology over to BMW.

[Jason Petrill]

Why?

[David Harsanyi]

Because he knew he was making these gigafactories, pumping out batteries. He was growing the market.

[Glenn Beck]

Guy's genius.

[David Harsanyi]

He was growing the market by doing it so unorthodox. Now he's the largest manufacturer ever, and he did it completely, completely different from the way it's been done before.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And I think that is, that's using universal law, though. Yeah, give and you get more back. So instead of holding everything so tight, he was like, no, take it, take it. And because of that, he got more back. Yeah, he's, he's, he's remarkable. Still worry about his end game of complete and total domination of all mankind?

[David Harsanyi]

We'll worry about that later.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, let's not talk about that. That's not a problem. Not a problem at all. We also need to talk about speaking of world domination. Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

Do we get to the aliens thing? We need to get to the aliens.

[Glenn Beck]

I know, I know, I know. We're running out of time. We get to that. Come back in about an hour, because we have, we have Alex Jones on. Yesterday was a bizarre day. So in what can only be called a bad business deal for the Onion. The Onion supposedly bought at auction, a federal auction. Infowars.

[Jason Petrill]

Well, as it turns out, did they maybe not. Did they really got a lot of press about it?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. And it looks like, yeah, because the feds in this open auction did not take the highest bidder. Alex explains. When we come back, Glenn Beck in this time of inflation, which hopefully will be coming to an end. Thank you very much, Joe Biden. Being able to lock in a price on something is important, especially when everything around you is jumping up and up and up in price. It's practically a miracle to do that. If you've got a car that no longer is covered by a warranty, you could use some sort of assurance that, that when and if you need car repairs, you're not going to lose your shirt in the process. This is what Carshield does. One call to 8002276100 can get you the coverage from America's most trusted vehicle protection company. From 247 roadside assistance to towing and rental car options. Carshield has your back when the going gets tough. With over 1300 jobs created, CarShield is helping your fellow American and helping you make sure that you get the best coverage that you can get. It's not a matter of if your car is going to break down, but when it's out of warranty. Get coverage now. Get a free quote and 20% off at 800-227-6100. Use the promo code beckcarshield.com beck or 800-227-60100. Head over to BlazeTV.

[Jason Petrill]

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[Glenn Beck]

I'll be home for Christmas. Welcome back to the Glenn Beck Program. We have Alex Jones joining us in just a minute. I want to remind you of the First Amendment. The First Amendment says freedom of speech shall not be infringed. So. So when you are offering your opinion on something, the government has no right to stop you from saying it unless it is to cause a riot. And it. It results immediately in a riot. Can't be something that you've planted the seeds and then somebody riots two weeks later. It has to be an immediate riot. Okay?

[Stu Burguiere]

That's.

[Glenn Beck]

That is the Supreme Court's definition of not crying. You know, fire in a crowded movie house. Um, the eighth amendment is the one that says no cruel or unusual punishments and no excessive fines shall be imposed. What happened to Alex Jones? I don't care what you think of him. What he said I don't care. The first and Eighth Amendment are being violated by our government right now. First Amendment's easy. No excessive fines. He was fined 1.5 billion. And that came down from the, what, $2 trillion that they first said that he had to pay 1.5 billion. The guy in his entire lifetime has made about $50 million. There's no way he could ever pay that fine off. That's excessive. That's an excessive fine. What happened yesterday was the government was supposed to auction off infowars. Now, if it's about, if it's about retribution, what do you do? You try to keep this guy unemployed. But if you're trying to restore and make things whole again, well, you would go to the highest bidder, would you not? Because you're trying to pay that fine and that's going to make apparently these families whole. Well, the government passed up the highest bidder. Why? Because they said that this would allow Alex Jones unusual and cruel punishment from being able to run it or be involved in it. They wanted to give it to the Sandy Hook family. So the and Sandy Hook families said, okay, yeah, when he gives us the 1.5 billion, then we'll kick in the extra. That's not the way it. I've, you know, I've been involved in auctions before. Never did they let me bid on something and get it because I said, yeah, but I'm going to get a raise, I'm sure in the next couple of years. So let me buy it and I'll pay you then. Doesn't work that way. Alex Jones, the founder of the Alex Jones Network and Infowars, joins us now. Hello, Alex. Did I get any of this wrong?

[Stu Burguiere]

Glenn, I'm not kissing your butt. I'm absolutely stunned how you boiled down in two minutes what I've tried to explain you. Absolutely. 100% hole in one. Nailed it. But I've got major breaking news. I'm getting chills right now and I'm going to tell people. First off, the FBI testified in the show trial in Connecticut two years ago on tv. I didn't know this till then. They hit it in plain view that their chief counsel of Connecticut created the suits, organized the people they got, the PR firms, they hyped up and exaggerated what I did for two years, use my name to raise money for their anti gun, anti First Amendment groups and then sued me, then found me in default, said I was guilty that had show trials, literally produced by hbo. Now moving on from that, the federal judge Lopez just two months ago, very Famously, when the last CRO and US Trustee appointed by the Justice Department, the judge agreed to it because they wanted to come into the case because it's so publicized. The Justice Department can do that. They have a whole Office of Bankruptcy. They then tried to close the doors in late May without a court order. We got a hearing in two weeks. I refuse to let them close the doors. I said I'd call the police when they came and told me, get out of the building. And then the judge fired the federal trustee and the CRO, but appointed a new one that was next to the rotation. Now the new one comes in and says, okay, well, Alex Jones is in bankruptcy, too. We're going to move to sell it at auction. The judge says, yes. But then they come out a few months ago, it was all over the news and said, and the trustee said, I'm going to sell the name Alex Jones show and I'm going to sell the name real Alex Jones on X Elon Musk. Lawyers got involved. They were there, by the way. It gets worse. But here's the new news. The judge a month ago in a hearing said, no, you must have new hearings on when you're going to have an auction. And we have to have hearings on this. So they withdrew their claim on my name. Chris Murray, the new trustee. This is all in the news and the transcripts are public from the hearing yesterday. He without the judge's authorization. The judge said this went ahead with the auction. But here's the breaking news. The judge said this even in Bloomberg yesterday. I did not authorize you to have this auction. We were supposed to have hearings because you were making claims that violate the 13th Amendment against slavery. It's not just the 8th and the 1st. They're violating, as you just said. And then Chris Murray is in Bloomberg and in the filing saying, the 13th Amendment does not apply to Alex Jones, close quote in a filing. So. So all of those amendments are attempting to be destroyed. Then. I waited yesterday till I said this, till all my lawyers, some of them are the top bankruptcy people, said, I'm authorized to say this literally 30 minutes ago. The filings will be filed within one hour. Now, now, now, get ready for this. Not only did they have this fake auction, the judge said it was fake. They took $1.7 million cash, as you just said, pledge the rest in future, money they get from me. When the judge's order was, it's a cash auction. And now basically, this is what the judge said this was a private secret sale disguised as an auction.

[Glenn Beck]

Yep.

[Stu Burguiere]

They then, they then ignored the highest bid that was way, way, way, way, way, way larger. And then the judge then excoriated them and said, the judge then excoriated them and said, we are now going to have a full evidentiary hearing sometime next week. And my lawyers are filing. They say it's cut and dry. They're not bomb throwers. Cut and dry in their own admissions and Murray's own admissions on the stand that they had bid collusion because none of the bidders are supposed to talk to each other. You have to disclose if there's another group. You have to disclose if you're going to change the auction and then now claim that it's not cash, it's a credit auction. But they didn't even do that now. And here's the key. Murray put out two months ago for the auction that November 8th was the last day to have your first initial bid in. And then it would be online with a big auction company and people could bid up. That's the definition of an auction is sold to the highest bidder in Webster's dictionary. So then they have this private sale disguised as an auction. Then they announce on Monday the 11th at 2pm via email to my lawyers and everybody, we're disregarding the old auction filings and the money that was put down and the non disclosures that were signed and the regular federal contracts that follow law. We're now going to have sealed bids in on Wednesday, November 13th at 10am There will be no further bids above that which is not an auction. And then we will choose, including, we reserve the right to take a lesser bid. So it was already fixed then, and then that went forward. So this is 100%, 100% cut and dry, illegal. Sorry.

[Glenn Beck]

So here, no, here's the thing, Alex. You know, a settlement against somebody is to make the people that are suing whole. There is a difference between restoration and retribution. You, if the people want that, you know, we're not going after retribution but restoration, then that, that, that fine that you got, then you had to pay the families was to restore them. They can't suddenly say, well, we'll get this money from Alex while we take away his business and even his name. You're not going to get any money from Alex. And the reason why you would have an auction when somebody goes bankrupt is to make the other people whole. This is clearly about retribution.

[Stu Burguiere]

And Glenn, you're absolutely right. They said on the courthouse steps in both rig cases and they said in their filings and they said in the Onion Announcement. This is about punishing him and taking him off the air. And the Democrat lawyer that runs all this. Absolutely. And the head Democrat lawyer out of Connecticut that runs all this said on ABC News last night, Alex Jones's punishment has just begun. Listen, they turned down $70 million from me that I agreed to pay out over a period of years that I wasn't even sure I could make more money than, as you said, rightfully than I've ever made. And so they admit this. They're not even denying it. What's crazy is they're so arrogant that when the judge said do an auction months ago, they acted like they were going to an auction up to two days before, less than 48 hours before, on Monday afternoon, they throw out the real auction, pretend they have an auction, and this is cut and dry, and then they admit that they did all of this. And again, the judge's order said a cash auction. This wasn't even a credit auction, as you said, promising my future earnings for them to be able to buy my company. It is. It is so ridiculously fraudulent on his face that my lawyers are speechless right now that they would try this. But again, they admit that the Justice Department is heavily involved in directing all of this, just like they got caught directing all the lawfare against Trump. And they admit on MSNBC and CNN this model being used against me, if they're successful, will then be used. And they've literally said the names in previous shows years ago, Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck. So I don't know if you've seen those newscasts. I can send them to you.

[Glenn Beck]

You have sent them to me. I'd like to. I'd like to see that. Look, Alex, Trump won. We are cleaning out the doj. I. I don't want to get involved in lawsuits because I'm not a judge, I'm not an attorney, and I'm not a jury. But I will insert myself when you see clear injustice against the Constitution. And I can. I can quote the 8th and the 1st. I hadn't thought of the 13th, but you say your attorney quoted that one. It is clear that this is cruel and unusual punishment. It is also retribution and an excessive fine, and it's all based on freedom of speech. This is not going to stand, Alex. And I hope that when the DOJ is cleaned up, this comes up and they prosecute anyone who did anything illegal in this case.

[Stu Burguiere]

I totally agree. And, Glenn, if you have time, just one last key point. It gets worse. So they have the secret fake auction. Wednesday at 10:30. They say, we'll tell you sometime tomorrow morning. I figure something's going on. So I get to the office right at 7:30 when the call and the emails come through to my lawyers that you didn't get your ip, you didn't get your equipment, you get everything, nothing. And then Chris Murray, the US trustee, shows up at 8am Right as I go on, one of my other hosts has a live show. So I took it over at 8am and I'm there. And he's ordering my crew, saying I'm, I have, I'm a federal agent. Because, you know, he has, when he does his little hearings, he has the Justice Department still behind him. He says, you were ordered to turn this off or I'm going to, you know, have you violating the stay and you're going to get in trouble with the court. So he basically intimidated my IT people to, at 10:30 in the morning, pull the plug on live broadcast when it wasn't a real auction. The judge hadn't authorized an auction yet. He had just authorized to have one in the future. And the judge said all this in courtyard. So they literally hijacked the building, turned the power off, turn the satellite off to the radio and TV stations. Luckily, we built a backup studio, which we're calling the Alex Jones Network. People can follow that on X at ajnlive or real Alex Jones. And luckily we got in contact with most our radio stations and only five minutes late, got our satellite link that was already up and ready, you know, to them. But this is literally, I'm not exaggerating any of this. This is all going to be filed in federal court today. Anybody listening that says this doesn't sound real, I understand it's in Bloomberg. It's everywhere. If you read deeper in the articles that the judge, quote, you know, has serious questions about transparency, that he said the sale didn't go through. And here they are everywhere saying the Onion bought it and all this and it's not even true. So imagine and all that. People I've talked to said there's no way the judge doesn't at least order a new real auction. Yeah, but there's probably going to be more. The law says that the real big bidder, by law, it will be forfeited to them and they wouldn't have to face the jeopardy of another, another auction. So there's a very good chance with these emergency injunctions today that I will be back in control of the Infowars building and studios and systems, perhaps by this afternoon, but 99% chance by the full evidentiary hearing next week. Glenn, this is epic desperateness and vigilantism by the desperate left.

[Glenn Beck]

Thank you very much. Alex Jones. You can follow [e-mail], alexjones.network and of course on X@realx Jones. All right, back in just a second. Let me tell you about blinds.com if you're excited about Black Friday coming up soon, you should see the people [e-mail] they're starting in early with Black Friday mega deals on all sorts of window covering options for your home. And they're keeping it going all month long. You get the upfront quote online so you don't have any hidden fees. You don't have to leave your house. You don't have to sit through people who are coming to your house and talking you into stuff. In fact, when I've had them on Skype and we've been working with some of them, they will actually talk me into things that cost less. And I'll be like, you sure? I mean, the quality. Oh yeah, yeah. In fact, it's better than the one that's more expensive. I mean, these guys are really honest. They're really great. And there's one low installation cost. No matter how many windows you get covered, never any hidden fees or showroom markups, the price that you see is the price you are going to pay. Blinds.com not only offers you free shipping but also their 100% satisfaction guarantee. Shop Black Friday mega deals all month [e-mail] that's blinds.com get 45% off site wide plus premium door busters and a free professional measure. Right now up to 45% off select styles plus free door busters and a free measure for a limited [e-mail] rules and restrictions may apply.

[Stu Burguiere]

This is the Glenn Beck program.

[Glenn Beck]

It's the most wonderful time. Stu, can I ask you a question? You may not know the answer. Is there something seriously mentally wrong with Jake Paul? Is it tonight? He's fighting Mike Tyson.

[Jason Petrill]

I'm fascinated by this.

[Glenn Beck]

And he's like, I'm gonna knock him out. I don't think so.

[Jason Petrill]

He's 58 though, right? Or 60 years old.

[Stu Burguiere]

Right?

[Glenn Beck]

It's Mike Tyson.

[Jason Petrill]

I know, but it's a 26. Like we were gonna say basketball. A 60 year old Michael Jordan versus, you know, I don't know. Probably Jordan stolen that.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[Stu Burguiere]

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[Stu Burguiere]

Welcome to the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck program.

[Glenn Beck]

Let me give you some facts. Democrats are just as susceptible to conspiracy theories and quack science as they claim Republicans are. Democrats have not accepted the results of a presidential loss in decades. They are the original election deniers. Democrats believe shadowy foreigners control our elections. Democrats have convinced themselves that books are being banned. They're not. And one state even banned the word gay. They didn't. Democrats no longer just disagree with conservatives about issues, but rather they treat every Republican victory as a grievous threat to democracy. Democrats rely on apocalyptus apocalyptic ism.

[Stu Burguiere]

Is that a word?

[Glenn Beck]

Working themselves and their voters into frenzies over the claims like the world's not going to, you know, end in 10 years. It might end in five years. We've got to get this done right now. Democrats believe that social conservatives are plotting a theocracy. Democrats believe conspiracy conspiracies about our history, including that the Constitution is a document for white supremacists. The left keeps falling for the racial hoaxes and. And polling shows Democrats are more likely to be holocaust deniers and 9, 11 truthers. This is the Rise of Blue Anon. BlueAnon. It's the name of a new book, Rise of Blue Anon, by good friend of the program David Harsanyi. He joins me in 60 seconds. Here's an idea for you next time you load everything up and you Go out to the gun range. Don't load any ammunition into your gun. Just point the barrel at your target and say, bang really loudly. And then guess how close it might have gotten to the bullseye. Make sure you're being honest, though. You don't want to cheat on something like that. That is one solution to the problem of expensive ammo. But there's probably a better solution, and that is Mantis X. This is a high tech, easy to use system used widely by the military, and it helps you improve your shooting quickly. You just attach it to your firearm and connect it with an app on your smartphone or your tablet via Bluetooth. Then, whether you're flying actual rounds or even dry fire, practicing, it'll give you instant feedback on what you're doing right, what you're doing wrong, and how to correct your technique. 94% of shooters improve within 20 minutes just using Mantis X. Be a responsible gun owner and increase your competence and just as importantly, your confidence with Mantis X. Get your Mantis X right [e-mail] mantisex.com Good friend, David Harsanyi. How are you, David?

[E]

I'm doing well, thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. So right now, can we play this audio that's coming out of Pennsylvania where the Democrats are now admitting that they are counting illegal votes? Listen to this. We reject all three categories of these ballots.

[Jason Petrill]

Your motion is to reject or dismiss.

[Stu Burguiere]

The challenges in this category in front of you, correct?

[Glenn Beck]

Yep. I'm not going to second that. Mostly because I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn't matter anymore in this country and people violate laws anytime they want. So for me, if I violate this law, it's because I want a court to pay attention to it. David, that's a little astounding. Is it just us?

[E]

No. It is funny that these were the people who were crying about the end of democracy and framing Trump as a Nazi, but the truth always was that they were the ones who wanted to pack the court. They were the ones who want to get rid of the electoral College. They are the ones who use executive power to do whatever they want. I mean, that's always been the case.

[Glenn Beck]

So you, I mean, you came up with some amazing facts that you lay out in your book that they are more susceptible. This is the one that blows my mind. More susceptible, more likely to be Holocaust deniers and 911 truthers than the Republicans are. I mean, we have our own. Probably just had Alex Jones on. We have our own, you know, problems on the Right. Where there's conspiracy theories and everything else. But this, what's happening now with. With the side of the Blue is it's mainstream. It's Rachel Maddow, right?

[E]

Yeah, no, that's exactly right. So I lay out the history of my book. This didn't just start yesterday, but the difference between Alex Jones and Rachel Maddow and say the Russia collusion thing is that the left will take a conspiracy theory, they launder it through the media, they polish it up with high production values, they calibrate it to be plausible. Then they bring in people we used to trust who are experts and former intelligence service officers, things like that, who will spread the conspiracy theory. It's very difficult to debunk something like that, and people are more prone to believe it. I forget the exact number, but it was maybe 60%, almost of Democrats believe that Russians had actually changed the vote tallies. Not that they had sent some Facebook ads that they had changed boat tally.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean, what was the percentage of that?

[E]

Like 58%, something very high. Democrats.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, there's absolutely no evidence of that.

[E]

Yeah, they don't need evidence, as we've seen.

[Glenn Beck]

So how do you. How do you break this?

[E]

It's difficult because first everyone, and it's already happening, will stop trusting institutions that tell them these things. Once they are debunked, then there's no one to trust. And that's not a good thing because, you know, yes, the media is terrible and all that, but you do need someone to watch over both parties and you want them to do that in a real way. It used to be biased, but now it's just complete activism. So you can't trust them. So that has to break down, and I guess it has to be rebuilt. But I don't think that happens very quickly because the entire culture of journalism, the entire culture in these giant agencies is all, you know, wrong. It's demented. So.

[Glenn Beck]

So is there any. Is there any hope among a libertarian like yourself that the country seems to be. Seems to be on track to just throw them all out and shut down as much of this government as possible? Does that give you hope?

[E]

Yeah, I think I am. Yes. The hope I have because of this election is that people stopped listening to those agencies, people stopped listening to the media. They didn't believe that Trump was Hitler. You see that in that every minority vote basically moved towards Trump. I don't view this election really as a Republican win as much as I do, just a normie win. I think Trump is just kind of, you know, here's another thing. Everyone always on the left talks about Trump like he's this extremist. His policy positions are incredibly moderate, I think. I mean, they are things that people like to hear and want, and there's a normalcy to it. Like, you know, I kind of think that the closest person to him is probably Harding, you know, who brought back normalcy after Wilson. So I don't know.

[Glenn Beck]

I'm hoping he'll be more like Coolidge, who followed Harding and really got the job done.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, I think they were both great, but, yeah, Coolidge definitely got the job done.

[Jason Petrill]

David, can you go back to the history of the left, of these conspiracy theories? Because I remember when there was the birther thing was going on and that was all over the place and it was constantly covered. And we would look back at polls of, let's say, the Bush era around 9 11, and Democrats overwhelmingly believed that George W. Bush was involved in 9 11. Like, this was not. This is not something that.

[Glenn Beck]

Blowing it up.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, right.

[Glenn Beck]

Not just like I turned my eyes, like blowing it up.

[E]

Yeah. I mean, think about the difference. Michael Moore got a standing ovation at the Oscars and whatever year that was, 2006, maybe for a documentary, there's a completely nut, nut job, cranky crank conspiracy theory movie. Right. Like, it was just nuts. It was one of the biggest documentary, you know, it earned more money than almost any documentary. I think at the time. It was the biggest.

[Glenn Beck]

It was.

[E]

And the birther thing, everyone rejected that. McCain rejected that publicly. I don't know if you guys remember, there was like some kind of town hall and he rejected that. And I don't think any. Any person of you know who was elected made a big deal out of it. Donald Trump, I guess. But the thing is, it's fine to ask questions about anything. An election, I think, at least about his birth certificate. There's nothing wrong with that. I think that once, though, the things are debunked and you still believe them. That's the problem. And Republicans don't do that as much as Democrats. If you ask anyone who, you know, a Democrat who was around who won the 2000 election, they'll tell you it was stolen. And there have been independent recounts of Florida that show that George Bush actually got more votes than were counted originally. But none of that will ever stop them from saying it. And people forget 2004, they did the same thing. Every major Democrat said that the machines in Ohio had cheated somehow. And, you know, they never pay a price for it.

[Glenn Beck]

I just watched the video, I don't know, about a month or two ago, of all the House members that stood up and wanted to cancel the Electoral College, the vote and not seat the electors, saying that, you know, this was. This was a false count and they needed to start all over again. I don't know if that was in the December after that election or January 6th, but everything they claimed Donald Trump was doing, they did, and I bet they'll do it again.

[E]

A lot of projection. Absolutely. With the election denialism. I'll tell you the most, another one that's just really pernicious and actually just evil in a way is. And it's not just my book, not just about conspiracy theories, it's just about a paranoid style of politics, is the idea that black people can vote. The suppression of the vote. It's easier to vote today than it ever has been in any place ever in the world. And yet that many Black people, over 60%, think that they're being stopped from voting or they think that white policemen are hunting them in the streets. None of this is true. Now, I'm not saying they're racist, of course they're a racist, but the idea that there's a systemic effort by white people, just because of the color of their skin, to suppress black people, that's an evil thing to convince people of. They don't think they have agency. And, you know, and that happens because of paranoia, I think.

[Glenn Beck]

Where do you think instead of saying, where did this really begin? What is it that sets us apart, Republicans or right and left, that makes them inherently easier to fall into these conspiracy theories?

[E]

In a way, weirdly, I think it's kind of laziness. So during the Obama years, if you said anything critical, they would just call you a racist. It's a way not to debate. So now if I say whatever I say, people will accuse me of being bought by someone I'm being paid by, you know, Elon Musk, or I'm a Russian dupe, or, you know, so I think that people get lazy. And then, you know, it evolved into, you're a Nazi or hit, you know, you're Hitler. And I'm not sure there's any place to go after Hitler. He's probably the worst, right?

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I know. But they've been calling people Hitler, literally since Eisenhower, who defeated Hitler.

[E]

But it wasn't as mainstream. Like, people would make comments and it would be frowned upon. But let's be honest, the whole. So I was watching because of Schadenfreude. I was watching msnbc as the election went to Trump, and it wasn't like they started saying, maybe we shouldn't have been calling everyone Hitler. They were saying, how could all these people vote for Hitler? You know what I mean? They're not convinced. So the incentives are all wrong there.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, I know, I know. That's not what your book's about, with the media per se and what's going to come. But what do you think happens to the mainstream media? I mean, I think they were the biggest. Besides Kamala, they were the biggest loser this election they have. It is clear that no matter how much they collude, how much money they spend, no matter how they all walk in lockstep from movies to, you know, to shows in arenas to the tv, it doesn't matter. People are done. What happens to them? Can they ever get that credibility back?

[E]

Yeah, sure they can. But again, like I just said, I don't think the incentives are right yet. It's not like. It's not.

[Jason Petrill]

They're out of job.

[Glenn Beck]

The networks are going away. What kind of incentive do they need?

[Jason Petrill]

I don't know.

[E]

But think about how the Washington Post just wouldn't endorse and the whole place had a meltdown. So there's a cultural problem. It's not like those people are just going to disappear. It starts in journalism school. Yeah. You know, it's, you know, it's the editorial assistant who gets to decide to fire the New York Times editorial page guy for publishing a Tom Cotton op ed. I don't. I don't. I just don't. I don't see that changing overnight. And. But, you know, maybe in the long run it can, you know, we spend a lot of money on politics. I wish some of these billionaires spend more money on, you know, journalistic efforts on the right.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, you want to be real, George? Sport Sorrel spends well. He does, yeah, sure. Yeah, he does. Thank you so much, David. I appreciate it. The name of the book is the Rise of Blue. And on he, David is the senior editor of the Federalist. Tried to keep him at the Blaze forever. I would have liked. I would have locked him in one of those, you know, cages down on the border, if we could. David Hari, A book well worth the time, the Rise of Blue. Anon. Back in just a second. So there are some people out there who just don't believe, you know, in half measures, like, at all. Everything they do 100%, you got to do it 100%. They do it happily, do it in timely fashion. They do it right the first time, when one of those people becomes a real estate agent, my company, Real Estate Agents I trust, seeks them out. I mean we've got like metal detector detectors or you know, heat seeking missiles to find these people so we can pair them up with you when it's time for you to buy or sell a home. Whether you're buying a home and in one city and you're buying the next one across the street or you're selling in one city and you're going to buy across the country we have real estate agents. I think we cover like now 95% of the nation. We have real estate agents that we have vetted and vetted hard that do it right the first time. Realestateagentsitrust.com it's free service to you. I don't charge you anything. The name says it all. Real estate Agents I trust. So go to realestateagentsitrust.com real estate agentsitrust.com 10 seconds. Station ID.

[Jason Petrill]

Maybe it's much too early in the game.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, I can't wait for Christmas. But I thought I'd ask you just the same.

[Jason Petrill]

What are you doing New Years, New Year's?

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know what I'm doing on New Year's Eve yet. It's my wife. It's our 25th wedding anniversary this year. 25 years, Stu.

[Jason Petrill]

That's incredible.

[Glenn Beck]

That's incredible. That woman has put up with me for this long.

[Jason Petrill]

I was there. I tried to talk her out of the day.

[Glenn Beck]

She's dead inside. Now she just makes the motions like whatever. But 25 years. And I love her more today than I, I, than I ever have.

[Jason Petrill]

That's incredible.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

You guys, is there a big plan? You guys got a big.

[Glenn Beck]

We talked about it yesterday and I'm not, I'm not sure, I'm not sure what we're going to do.

[Jason Petrill]

It's her taking a jet to another country and ever singing again.

[Glenn Beck]

It's probably it. Yeah, it's probably it. She's been draining the bank accounts, I'm sure for years, so. Oh, no, wait, that's been me.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, yeah. Buying all.

[Jason Petrill]

No habits. That's definitely you.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

By the way, I was a lot. People were saying, hey, like the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight, not going to be worth paying for. It's going to be a waste of money. It's, it's actually just part of your Netflix subscription if you have one. It's just part of it. So I got to tell you, big.

[Glenn Beck]

Pay per View there I would love because it's being fought here in Dallas. Yeah, I would love to go.

[Jason Petrill]

I looked at tickets, they're pretty expensive.

[Glenn Beck]

Oh, really?

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, I mean, I just, I didn't see the value there. I'm not sure it's going to be good. I feel like there's a probably a 50% chance. It's just, they're just hugging each other and it's really boring. That's really possible.

[Glenn Beck]

See, you know the thing about getting into a ring with Mike Tyson, I know he's 60, but getting into a ring with Mike Tyson, getting hit by him, if he just happens to have one left in him, could kill you.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

You know.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And.

[Jason Petrill]

But I mean, you watch, you watch like amazing athletes as they get into their mid to late 30s and you see the difference and they fade so quickly.

[Glenn Beck]

Why is Jesus is Jake Paul interested in beating up on an old man? Isn't this kind of like the Olympics where, oh no, I'm definitely a woman, but there's nothing exciting about that.

[Jason Petrill]

No. Well, definitely not there. That was horrible. I think the answer to this is lots and lots of money. I mean, like, you know, he's an influencer, right? Like he's kind of a boxer, but also he likes attention and money and knows how to get it. Like he's really good at it.

[Glenn Beck]

We're political influencers. I mean, would it be worth it to go, we're going to debate Walter Mondale.

[Jason Petrill]

I'm not sure a guy who actually debated Elliot Spitzer. I'm not sure a guy.

[Glenn Beck]

I had to do that.

[Jason Petrill]

You did that. It was a giant stunt.

[Glenn Beck]

I had to do that. I was contractually obligated.

[Jason Petrill]

You were, that's true.

[Glenn Beck]

Yes.

[Jason Petrill]

But I mean, like, it was, it was something that kind of generated a lot of excitement. Some excitement.

[Glenn Beck]

I liked it. I just have to tell you, I was wearing a 1791 T shirt. 1791, kind of an important year for America.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, I've heard of it.

[Glenn Beck]

And Spitzer said, right before we went on, he said, what's significant about the year 1791? And I went, oh, dear God, you're serious.

[Jason Petrill]

But I mean, we see that stuff happen a lot. I think what I'm fascinated about is I have absolutely no idea where this goes. You could totally convince me. Tyson, a much better boxer technically, as far as skill goes, even he's going to remember what he had back in the day, would just destroy a 26 year old influencer who kind of boxes. On the other hand, you could totally convince me a 26 year old at the peak of his physical abilities is going to. He might literally murder a 60 year old trying to fight him.

[Glenn Beck]

But there is the same, I think, chance that Tyson murdered. I mean, it could be murder either way.

[Jason Petrill]

I don't know.

[Glenn Beck]

Join us in the ring for murder night.

[Jason Petrill]

And then I also think there could be this chance they go in there and kind of just bump into each other for 12 minutes and it's over. And it's like, God, that was terrible. Like, I think that's totally a possible outcome, too. I have no idea where this goes, which kind of makes it like one of the most interesting sporting events I've seen in a long time.

[Glenn Beck]

Actually, it's. I'm getting a little tired of that because everything is like that.

[Jason Petrill]

I love predictability in real, you know what in real life. And unpredictability in sports.

[Glenn Beck]

Christmas, you know, Christmas is coming. We could all be alive or we could all be vaporized. We don't know. It kind of makes it interesting, doesn't it?

[Jason Petrill]

What if. What do you want to feel really on the edge? Did you know Joe Biden is still president of the United States right now?

[Glenn Beck]

Right now.

[Jason Petrill]

Isn't that crazy?

[Glenn Beck]

Well, I feel better because his vice president isn't talking to him.

[Jason Petrill]

Oh, good.

[Glenn Beck]

So good. So one who's equally as incompetent. There's no, there's no guardrails here. We're 90 miles an hour on the top of a cliff. A little teeny dirt road, Right? Keep putting the pedal to the metal, Glenn Beck. Okay. The things that matter to you. Family matters. Life of integrity matters to you. It matters to me. God matters to you. America, I think matters to you. It does me. And I think that's why we have so much in common. American giant was created 13 years ago to save a clothing factory in North Carolina. The guy just wanted to save jobs, okay? Save the employees so they could continue to do the work. As he knew that if he could do that, he could save the town. American manufacturing matters. And with all that's going on in the world, it matters more than ever. Well, 13 years ago, they brought equipment back that used to be American and they sold it to China years and years ago. It's why we don't make. You know, no offense in Champion, but Champion used to be. When I was growing up, or my dad, Champion sweatshirts were the best. Well, they don't make them like that anymore. They don't even have the machines anymore. American Giant went out and got those machines back, refurbished them Brought them back to America, trained these people on it. You get the best quality now from American Giant, the quality we used to have. Go to american-giant.com Glenn use my name. Get 20% off american-giant.com glenn home for.

[Jason Petrill]

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[Glenn Beck]

Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're just talking before we get into aliens and what happened on Capitol Hill, just to let you know, nobody shed their skin and showed that they were lizard people, but pretty close. We'll tell you about that here in just a sec. We were just talking about Jake Paul and Mike Tyson.

[Jason Petrill]

Sorry, I'm so fascinated by this.

[Glenn Beck]

No, I am too. But Stu, I think found the answer of why Jake Paul would fight Mike Tyson. Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

$40 million.

[Glenn Beck]

Is there anyone that could beat on me for 12 minutes for $40 million?

[Jason Petrill]

I can sort of gofundme. I would like that.

[Glenn Beck]

That would be fun. I do it. I do it.

[Jason Petrill]

$40 million and he's actually getting, I think, double the amount of Mike Tyson, which is incredible that Tyson is less of a draw than Jake Paul.

[Glenn Beck]

The thing about Mike tys Tyson is just. Just that how frightening that guy was. I mean, one swing, really, in his old power, it could kill you.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Glenn Beck]

And I think it's great.

[Jason Petrill]

I think it's incredible.

[Glenn Beck]

It shows God's sense of humor. He's like, I'm gonna make this dude really, really powerful. But then I make attack like this, and I just want to make it talk like this. Wouldn't that be funny? Let's make him.

[David Harsanyi]

God does that a lot. He did that with David Beckham, one of the best, you know, soccer players of all time. It's like, let's have him be an awesome soccer player, but sound like Kermit the Frog.

[Glenn Beck]

Hang on. We have. We have clips here of Mike Tyson. Go ahead. Well, in your return to the ring for this fight, you are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age to see the legend Mike Tyson in the ring for the first time. 14 year old. So after such a successful career, what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done? Man, I. I don't know.

[Stu Burguiere]

I don't believe in the word legacy. I just think that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's just some word everybody grabbed onto. Someone said that word, and everyone grabbed on the word. So now it's used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm Just passing through. I'm gonna die and it's gonna be over. Who cares about legacy after that?

[Glenn Beck]

What a big eagle. So I'm gonna die.

[Stu Burguiere]

I want people to think that I'm this, I'm great, I'm nowhere. Nothing.

[Glenn Beck]

We have dead, we're dust. Absolutely nothing. 14 year old girl.

[Stu Burguiere]

Our legacy is nothing.

[Glenn Beck]

So I actually happen to agree with him.

[Jason Petrill]

I do too.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

I mean, in some ways, not that you know, we're nothing because I have obviously faith reasons to believe something different.

[Glenn Beck]

Nobody's going to remember any of us.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

I mean I said this in your family recently and they were like, no, no, no. And I'm like, I'm not trying to be humble. I'm telling you, five years after my death, no one will remember.

[Jason Petrill]

That's why a lot. Yeah, it's true. It's why you should always remember when you're like having a bad day and getting attacked online, how little it means.

[Glenn Beck]

It means nothing.

[Jason Petrill]

Absolutely nothing. Hey, one more thing about this too I find to be fascinating. This is a 14 year old girl set up in an interview with Mike Tyson. With every other person I think I've ever known in my entire life that has this story, his legacy would be rapist.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[Jason Petrill]

Okay. When you are convicted of rape, so generally your legacy is rapist. And he's got 14 year old girls being probably, hey, go talk to that rapist over there.

[Glenn Beck]

I, I just want to ask you, Mr. Polanski, what do you think your legacy is going to be? Probably rapists like you. All right, so Jason is here. I asked him yesterday, I said, would somebody just watch the testimony on Capitol Hill? Are they announcing the aliens have arrived yet? What is this? Give me just the high level stuff that was important.

[David Harsanyi]

I wrote three pages of notes where I was just like, I cannot believe this is in a congressional hearing. I just cannot believe this is any congressional hearing.

[Glenn Beck]

Because it was such a joke or because they were verifying things. Well, verifying is it verify this is the same.

[David Harsanyi]

Well, so they have. So they have very credible whistleblowers and people that you've spoken to. People like Lou Alo, he was also.

[Glenn Beck]

There, but he's the same guy. It's the same testimony. I've heard it. So what's new, pussycat? Whoa, whoa.

[Jason Petrill]

I demand new knowledge about aliens.

[Glenn Beck]

Bark with your alien and stuff.

[David Harsanyi]

I don't know if new is the correct word, but more of like, it seems like more verification and more detail.

[Glenn Beck]

Like what?

[David Harsanyi]

So for one, everything I'm about to tell you is. And Everything they said there was another kind of like drop from one of these whistleblowers that said, you know, we always wonder, doesn't the president, every president should know about this, right?

[Glenn Beck]

No, he doesn't.

[David Harsanyi]

So apparently that's by design. And apparently according to one document that was released a couple days ago, President Obama found out about these disclosures like through Lou El Sale and the New York Times after the fact and was like, wait, what did you guys withhold from me? And he actually went to some of these people and said, can I get right in on all the stuff you intentionally left me out on? They did not do it. So Obama apparently did not get this briefing.

[Glenn Beck]

So I really have a problem with this. The President is our elected commander in chief and this, this goes to the dark web. Honestly, I'm not Dark web, the deep state that, you know, an elected official should be able to say to all those unelected, no, excuse me, you're going to read me in on this. Right. And there's lots of things that the President doesn't know that's wrong.

[David Harsanyi]

Yeah. And not only just the elected officials in the executive, but, you know, Congress, they're the oversight.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[David Harsanyi]

That should be.

[Jason Petrill]

No.

[David Harsanyi]

So apparently from what they described is this has been designed intentionally to go around that, to keep those people in the dark. And by the way, they did say that Trump was given this briefing and that he was so, quote, disturbed by what they said that he intentionally said, let's not move on.

[Glenn Beck]

I wish that guy drank because I would be at Mar a Lago tonight just pumping him up with joy juice, going, hey, so right. What'd you learn about the aliens?

[David Harsanyi]

So they, they talked about what's called the legacy program and how this is. They go into how they've gotten around oversight and they talk about they're primarily people within the executive branch and they have created a classification system, a special access program, how they classify top secret information that immediately detects every time our military or whoever, CIA, anyone has got footage or anything at all on a ufo, it detects it pulls it out of the regular system and then disseminates it amongst themselves so that nobody else sees it. And it's very interesting because that's how. And they said this has been going on for decades. So this is how they get around none of this stuff getting out. So there's kind of a good old boy group that's got all this information.

[Glenn Beck]

I don't know. This, this is the problem. This is deep state.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

And they have to answer to Elected officials. There has to be. We are a country of and for the people. So the people we elect have oversight, and they should be read in. I mean, I understand top secret, et cetera, et cetera, but elected officials should be read into everything.

[David Harsanyi]

I completely agree. And the detail that they go into. I mean, I've never heard this be disclosed before. Like, they talk about specific intelligence systems that are being used to monitor all this stuff. And they go into multiple different encounters where they're like, oh, it was observed with this infrared FLIR system here, or this signals intelligence here. And this is. These videos exist within that select group. And they. Yeah, like I said, they go very into very specific detail on what actually happened during those encounters. Now, they said that now. Now that there's been a few disclosures, Lou El Sonato and some others, they've created a new program, and it's called the Immaculate Constellation Program. It's a special access program that's taking all this information, but they have a very specific concern or worry.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay, hang on just a second. Why would you call it, obviously, after the Immaculate Conception? Why would you call it the Immaculate Constellation? What is the. Have you thought of this?

[David Harsanyi]

Not much.

[Glenn Beck]

Why? That will unlock a lot. If you can figure out why they named it that. Because that's. That the Immaculate Conception. This is the Immaculate Constellation. I can't tie that together. Just off the top of my head, somebody tweet it to me. If you can think of why they would call it that, because you'll understand their motives if we can understand that name.

[David Harsanyi]

Well, there's clearly a lot going on that we do not know about and that they know about. Michael Shellenberger was at this hearing, which.

[Glenn Beck]

Was shocking to me. That added a lot of credibility.

[David Harsanyi]

Oh, big time. Yeah. You had all the other whistleblowers and people that have come out, Pentagon officials, all that, and they were asked very bluntly, like, what is this?

[Glenn Beck]

So what is the Immaculate Constellation Program?

[David Harsanyi]

So it's that special access program that's looking at all these cases. But they are very, very. And they made this very clear that they're worried about something very, very specific. And this also makes me think.

[Glenn Beck]

What does that mean?

[David Harsanyi]

This also makes me think they have kind of a. I don't know, some. Some humor going on here because they're looking at something called Alien Reproductive Vehicles. And they constantly talk about RVs. And to me, I immediately thought of, like, Bill Pullman and his rv, you know, in Spaceballs. Like, I don't know why you would call it that.

[Glenn Beck]

Right.

[David Harsanyi]

But reproductive vehicles are vehicles of alien origin that other countries apparently, including us, have retrofitted and recreated off of both seeing some of these alien craft and retrieving and recovering this craft. And they go into detail, Glenn, and they release this in the hearing of very specific cases where they said, we saw an alien reproductive vehicle operated by. And then again redacted country like China or something, probably who it is. And they said, this is.

[Glenn Beck]

This is the Chinese. When they're stealing the technology from aliens that don't exist. They are good. They cut that spy thing down.

[David Harsanyi]

This is the. This was the biggest kind of crazy holy crap moment when they started talking about that, because they. When the detail includes, like, they're like, oh, yeah, we were in this water, in these waters. Their military ships are all out seeing if they could detect this thing. They clearly knew it was there. They did their exercise, and then the alien reproductive vehicle craft went off in a certain direction and disappeared. I mean, so what. What they're describing here with this immaculate constellation is a global arms race race to identify alien craft and then either retrieve it, which they also mentioned multiple other countries have. Six have tried to go after them and intercept them and then retrieve them and then create technology based off of that. That's insane. They're saying it's happening right now.

[Glenn Beck]

What do you do with that saying earlier this hour or last hour that, you know, I don't know if that's going to happen. Okay, that's kind of far out there. Oh, it's not. As I said, last hour. No, nothing is anymore.

[Jason Petrill]

Every day there's a new crazier thing than the previous day. Every day you wake up is the craziest day you've ever lived.

[Glenn Beck]

We are on the verge of massive change. I think people are starting to understand this with quantum computing, AI, just those things alone are going to change. You will not recognize anything, anything. By 20, 30, 35. Our lives are going to be completely different by that time.

[David Harsanyi]

Yeah, I mean, money, how does that even work with quantum computing? I don't even know.

[Glenn Beck]

Like, how is there a single secret? How do you. How do you have money in banks?

[David Harsanyi]

No.

[Glenn Beck]

How do you transfer? There's nothing. No, there's nothing. All right, thank you, Jason, for a very bizarre segment. All right, let me tell you about relief factor. No matter what the reason for your pain, no matter whether it's infrequent or all the time or someplace in between, I think we can both agree that the main thing you want is for pain to go away. I tried to get my pain to go away in my hands and my arms and everything else for a long time. You were on my protective detail at the time. I mean, remember how nasty it was? It could not. I tried everything. Could not get it to go away. Well, Tanya made me try Relief factor years ago. 100% drug free. Developed by doctors to help reduce or eliminate pain. No matter what kind of pain you're in, it helps your body fight it. I don't know why this cracked the code on me, but it stopped it. It broke its back. Stop masking your pain and start fighting back naturally. Give Relief factor a try. Right now, their three week quick start is only 19.95. Less than a dollar a day. So visit relief factor.com or call 800, the number four relief. That's 800, the number four relief. Get even more Glenn. Subscribe to the Glenn Beck podcast. Anywhere podcasts are found.

[Stu Burguiere]

This is the Glenn Beck program.

[Jason Petrill]

You pray for me.

[Glenn Beck]

Are we like, are we 14 days away from Black Friday?

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah. Two weeks from today.

[Glenn Beck]

This is from yesterday is Thanksgiving. Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah. This CD coming out in two weeks, Black Friday. Are you sure about that? How sure are you of that? Let's just say you're the producer.

[Glenn Beck]

I was just saying I always speak things into existence.

[Jason Petrill]

So, yeah. Coming out December 18th. Is this. Get ready.

[Glenn Beck]

If everybody does what they say they were going to do. No, no, no, listen. We added extra time to what everybody said it would take. It could come out earlier than that. But we're counting on Black Friday, the new Christmas album. You're just going to love it. Yeah, it's been kind of a weird show today. If I would have said to you a year ago, you know who's going to be the head of HHS? RFK Jr. No, I would.

[Jason Petrill]

You're right. I would have said no way.

[Glenn Beck]

Right. And you might have said maybe if Kamala wins. Yeah. But if I say Trump wins and he makes RFK junior Head of hhs. You're a lunatic.

[Jason Petrill]

It's crazy.

[Glenn Beck]

Okay.

[Jason Petrill]

Would have been crazy.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah. I mean, we talk about conspiracy theories. They're not. You make stuff up and it's not as weird as the stuff that's actually happening in today's world.

[Jason Petrill]

It's very true. Very true. And I think there's, you know, look, it's going to be an interesting ride because of that. It will be an interesting ride because of that.

[Glenn Beck]

You know what we're going to do? We always do predictions for the coming year.

[Jason Petrill]

Oh, yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

Let's do them on the air. And get people to brainstorm with us on what sounds insane but slightly positive.

[Jason Petrill]

Right, right.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, probable, slightly even possible. Okay. Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

Like, they do this in sports, Sports talk. When you get into a season, they'll do, like, a segment called, like, Bold Takes.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah.

[Jason Petrill]

And it's like, you had something that could. You're not necessarily saying it's definitely going to happen, but, like, I think it's a little more likely than people believe.

[Glenn Beck]

Yeah, but it's. But if you say that, it's going to be nuts, because the stuff that we all think is coming is pretty nuts.

[Jason Petrill]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Glenn Beck]

You know, we. I mean, the things that we all talk about every day would be like, oh, you know what? We could be on the edge of civil war. Yeah, I know. I feel that, too. That's nuts.

[Jason Petrill]

You know, Glenn, it's gonna be really interesting to see how all this plays out.

[Glenn Beck]

It is. It's going to be fun to see how the American people solve this, isn't it? It's going to be one for the history books, I'll tell you that. All right. Have a safe, safe weekend. God bless. May God save the Republic. And thanks for doing it a couple of Tuesdays ago.

[Stu Burguiere]

Program.