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Glenn Beck (5:33)

Wow, this is trouble, Stu. This is trouble. President Trump is supportive of designating Antifa, a domestic terror organization. Oh, no. And he, as he and his aides consider how to respond to an increase in political violence, a concern pushed into the spotlight after last week's assassination of Charlie Kirk. Now, he's also. Brace yourself for this, too, because the Democrats would never do this. He's also looking into RICO charges. He's looking at people who have been putting millions and millions of dollars up for this agitation and charging them with rico. Now, if you don't know what RICO is, RICO is what the. The state AG in Georgia used to charge Donald Trump to overturn Georgia's election results in 2020. Oh, wow. So it's what the Democrats used against Donald Trump when they were trying to put him in prison. But how dare him think about using RICO charges? What kind of fascistic, fascist, fascist, fathead, fascist is this guy? My God.

Stu Burguiere (6:53)

Can you believe it, Glenn? Can you believe that a president would use the law and target his political opponents? I know. Seems crazy. You know, one person who actually could believe that that might happen.

Glenn Beck (7:13)

Me. You.

Stu Burguiere (7:15)

Every single person in this audience who just had to deal with multiple Democratic administrations who kept doing that over and over and over and over again.

Glenn Beck (7:25)

I seem to remember exactly what a fascist would say.

Stu Burguiere (7:28)

Oh, speaking of fascism, good thing to bring up. I seem to remember a giant speech in front of a red wall that looked like a scene out of a Star wars sequel where the President of the United States spent an hour outlining how every single one of his opponents were domestic terrorists and incapable of violence at any moment and how he needed to crack down on it. I seem to remember this age and.

Glenn Beck (7:54)

Over here you are engaging in what about ism? When all we're talking about the fascistic, fascist, fathead that is nothing but a fascist who loves fascism. Donald Trump trying to use the RICO act and forget about what the Democrats use the RICO act for last time. How dare he try to use the RICO act to get people and put them in jail for actually financing revolution in our country. Yeah, you just don't get it, Stu.

Stu Burguiere (8:28)

It's. I know I'm terrible at this game, and I will say I am sensitive to the charge of what about ism? We were critical of those efforts in both of those administrations. And so I stand up here. We will make an important designation here in a moment because there is a massive difference as to what we were talking about then and what we're talking about now. These are not the same. They're not the same at all. But I just want to make it clear that I very much can picture. I can picture a president going after his political opponents and calling them all terrorists and saying he's gonna CR down in all their organizations. I can even picture. You want to say. You want to go crazy. I can even picture a time in which people like David Barton were put on extremist lists. I can remember that time. I can remember. I can even remember, Glenn, a time in which that we put mothers and fathers who went to school board hearings on domestic terrorist watch lists. This I can remember.

Andy McCarthy (9:34)

So.

Glenn Beck (9:34)

Okay, hang on just a second. I am having a hard time with your logic here because you said you wanted to picture it and you could picture. Well, are you picturing it or are you remembering it? Stu, be consistent.

Stu Burguiere (9:47)

I've fallen out of character. I can picture all of these things occurring because they very much did occur over and over and over again. Most of my adult life, Glenn, has been spent being either rumored or directly accused of being on a terrorist extremist watch list for what I want, lower taxes. This has been the entire run of this show. We are in. If you go to Apple, itunes, I'm pretty sure we're under the domestic extremist category. So I very much can understand and picture how this could occur.

Glenn Beck (10:28)

Now.

Stu Burguiere (10:28)

Yeah, as I'm sure someone yelling what about ism at their radio can attest, we were very critical of those efforts and it is absolutely true and legitimate to bring up that criticism. So what is the difference? The difference is clear. And if you listened, actually listened. And I know a lot of you people who are in the media today that might be tuning in now to try to catch us saying something bad today. Whatever your stupid failure of a life job is, where you critique and transcript our shows, you might be thinking, well, wait a minute, I remember this. Cuz I was listening and obsessing about everything that has been said on this show for multiple years that they were critical of those efforts. That is true. And if you listen to the actual vice president in his filling in for Charlie Kirk yesterday, he outlined very clearly what he was talking about. First of all, he did name specific groups like the Ford foundation, like the Open Society Institute that are starting that, that, that are pathways for all of this stuff. And we've talked about that many times. I heard the phrase without evidence over and over and over again. Donald Trump said without evidence. J.D. vance said without evidence that one was bothering me for multiple reasons.

Glenn Beck (11:46)

Let me, let me just play the. The funding of violence by George Soros. Here's J.D. vance yesterday.

J.D. Vance (11:53)

Cut to first, we must tell the truth. It's the only way to honor Charlie. For what was he if not a man who told the truth in every place, in every environment? Another truth is that 26% of young liberals believe political violence is sometimes justified.

Stu Burguiere (12:13)

26.

J.D. Vance (12:13)

And only 7% of young conservatives say the same. Again, too high a number. In a country of 330 million people, you can of course, find one person of a given political persuasion justifying this or that or almost anything. But the data is clear. People on the left are much likelier to defend and celebrate political violence. This is not a both sides problem. If both sides have a problem, one side has a much bigger and malignant problem. And that is the truth we must be told. Now, the most influential conservative activist in generations, our friend Charlie, has been murdered. This violence, it doesn't come from nowhere. Now, any political movement, violent or not violent, is a collection of forces. It's like a pyramid that stacks on top, one support on top of the other. That pyramid's got a foundation of donors, of activists, of journalists, now of social media influencers, and of course, of politicians. Not every member of that pyramid would commit a murder. In fact, over 99%, I'm sure, would not. But by celebrating that murder, apologizing for it, and emphasizing not Charlie's innocence, but the fact that he said things some didn't like, even to the point of lying about what he actually said, many of these people are creating an environment where things like this are inevitably going to happen. We can thank God that most Democrats don't share these attitudes, and I do, while acknowledging that something has gone very wrong with a lunatic fringe, a minority, but a growing and powerful minority on the far left. There is no unity with people who scream at children over their parents politics. There is no unity with someone who lies about what Charlie Kirk said in order to excuse his murder. There is no unity with someone who harasses an innocent family the day after the father of that family or lost a dear friend. There is no unity with the people who celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination. And there is no unity with the people who fund these articles, who pay the salaries of these terrorist sympathizers, who argue that Charlie Kirk, a loving husband and father, deserved a shot to the neck because he spoke words with which they disagree. Did you know that the George Soros Open Society foundation and the Ford foundation, the groups who funded that disgusting article justifying Charlie's death, Do you know they benefit from generous tax treatment? They are literally subsidized by you and me. The American taxpayer. And how do they reward us? By setting fire to the house built by the American family over 250 years. I am desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend. I want it so badly that I will tell you a difficult truth. We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable. And when we work to dismantle the institutions that promote violence and terrorism in our own country.

Glenn Beck (15:35)

You know, listen to his facts. He said 99% of those on the left would never do anything like this. He was talking about the pyramid. And 99, I'm sure 99%. Listen, the guy can't even do math. It's 74% wouldn't do it because 26% say they're for the violence. And it's only four times we're told.

Stu Burguiere (16:03)

Over and over again. This is a both sides problem. And if I look, if I have to hear another person acknowledge an incident that was legitimately terrible, the Minneapolis shooting of the two people in Minneapolis, which was legitimately bad. And if you want to blame that.

Glenn Beck (16:23)

One side made a big deal out of it.

Stu Burguiere (16:25)

Yep, absolutely horrible. I literally, literally met zero people or even saw even one tweet supporting that, celebrating it, laughing about it. I saw nothing. Now, I'm not saying it doesn't exist. Maybe I don't go to the darkest.

Glenn Beck (16:42)

Corners of the Internet. Why isn't this as big as the Charlie Kirk murder? Well, why isn't this just as big? It's the what about ism. You have your murder, we had our murder. How come you make a big deal out of Charlie Kirk?

Stu Burguiere (16:57)

Well, first of all, I think as most people would know, Charlie Kirk is one of the most famous people in politics. He was one of the most well known and powerful people in the entire conservative movement. That does not mean to demean the life being taken by the people of the people in Minnesota. But quite clearly, as you know, every time they recount this, they don't say their names. They didn't even know their names before. They don't even know them now. They're just using them as an argument. These poor two people that were killed, they're using them as an argument to try to deflect off of their own side. And the violence problem that the left has, this is a real thing. You could try to deflect it all you want, but all of these examples keep piling up on one side of the ledger. And you know what J.D. vance points out with facts. He gave several polls there showing 3,4,5x the problem on the left, as we do have the right, we do have a problem on the right. As J.D. vance acknowledged multiple times, even 7% is way too high to accept political violence. That should be zero. However, the problem is much larger on the other side. And to be clear here, we keep hearing this giant crackdown, an awful thing that's going to happen that's going to trample all of our rights. What we have one example of the types of policies they're talking about here that was outlined by the vice president of the United States targeting the favorable tax treatment of the organizations fomenting this violence. That is what has been proposed here, as far as I can tell. And antifa being designated a terrorist group, those are the two things that have.

Glenn Beck (18:32)

Been tossed out there. But you're forgetting that they want to use the RICO act, something that is clearly only something that the attorney general in Georgia could use against Donald Trump. Let's move on from that. All right, let me tell you about Prageru. If you've ever watched a young person struggle to explain why America is worth defending, then you know why Prageru exists. We are living in a time when basic truths are being twisted, history is being rewritten and common sense is treated like a threat. Prageru is fighting back in the most positive of ways. I mean, there are Charlie Kirk and Prageru have probably done more to save this country than any of us combined. They have worked with our kids. They are. If you've never checked out their content, you need to. I can guarantee you if you have kids, your kids have checked out their content. Prager U Kids is one of the most powerful tool out there for parents who want to raise good thinking, grounded young people who, you know can actually defend the country. September 19th, right now, until September 19th. And this is only for this audience. Prageru is extending their triple match campaign. If you want to make an impact on the next generation, this is the best time to support Prageru. It's a special opportunity for you where every dollar you donate now until September 19th you will be triple matched. Take advantage of this by going to prageru.com Glenn that's prageru.com Glenn prageru.com Glenn I have donated. Make your donation now. You'll get triple matched. I've never seen an organization do anything like that. They've got some great people that are standing on the sidelines that are waiting to match your gift three times. Every dollar will turn into $4. Do it now it's prageru.com prageru.com Glenn. All right, Back in just a minute. Yeah, but it's only 26%. Say that political violence is. Okay, Stu. Only 26%.

Stu Burguiere (20:53)

A little more than a quarter, I.

Glenn Beck (20:54)

Suppose, just, you know. Do you think it's pretty out there when you hear people go, chi, we never went to the moon. We never went to the moon.

Stu Burguiere (21:04)

Oh, yeah, it's way out, right?

Glenn Beck (21:06)

That's pretty out there, right?

Stu Burguiere (21:07)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (21:07)

Okay. But you could say it's growing. There's a growing number of people that are saying, we never went to the moon. Yeah, it seems the current number, I think, is 16%. Okay, 16.

Stu Burguiere (21:19)

16, which is up, but it's still very way up.

Glenn Beck (21:22)

It used to be seven. Yeah, used to be, used to be seven.

Stu Burguiere (21:24)

Still very much lower than 26. I'm not a mathematician, though. My understanding is that 26 is still to this day higher than 16 or seven.

Glenn Beck (21:35)

Yeah, that's weird. That's, that's weird. So you're not, you're, you're, you're, you're looking at a, a pretty large. Dare I say it? Dare I say it? I don't want to get. I mean, this show is known for its science and its mathematics. And its mathematics. We get into heavy math and heavy science all the time here. But dare I say it and bring it up. And Stu, maybe you can break this down for the people. That's just 1 percentage point over a quarter of the population for the left.

Stu Burguiere (22:04)

Of the left.

Glenn Beck (22:05)

Yeah.

Stu Burguiere (22:06)

That's interesting. I would also argue you have the 7% of the moon supporters when it was really, really fringe and no one ever, ever talked about the moon landing was faked. That's the same percentage it currently is for the right to approve of political violence. As the Vice President said, very much too high. But it's almost impossible to have percentages lower than 5 to 7% in these. Somebody always believes something crazy.

Glenn Beck (22:35)

Right. When we were doing interviews on the moon, you know, 7% were like, we're not on the moon. That's a movie set. Okay. When it was very, very clear, yeah, we went to the moon. Now with all of the, you know, indoctrination and everything else that everybody's questioning now you've got, you know, 10% more just under 10% that are like, ah, we never went to the moon. We never went to the moon. That number is growing. But unfortunately, so is the call for political violence. Okay. And, yeah, it is bad on the, on the right. I'd like that number to be zero. But again, that's, you know, the number of people who thought we didn't go to the moon about 20 years ago when everybody knew we went to the moon. Still, 7% is really bad. 26% is much, much worse. I just want to point that out. One of these things is not like the other. This is Glenn Beck. All right, let me tell you about preborn. You know, it's really easy. Crying. Crying. Crying babies are annoying, but crying babies, you know, when they're first crying, it's like, hey, they're alive. And that's one thing that is really easy to celebrate life. Now, some people don't want to celebrate life. Some people would say, shout your abortion. That's called a culture of death. And as we've talked about on this program over and over and over again, a culture of death might start with the babies, but then end with the killing of anyone they find useless, huh? Or annoying. That crying baby, that, that shouting Charlie Kirk doesn't matter. Once you start dismissing life, you can dismiss any life if it offends you, if you don't deem it worthy. See how this works? Preborn wants us to get back to the basics and declare that all life is sacred. We have to stand up for life in the abortion clinics. And that is exactly what happens with Preborn. They're great. Preborn.com Beck Make a donation now Preborn.com Dial £250 on your phone. Say the keyword baby and save and stand up for life. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. I'm on my way to Phoenix for the rest of the week. I will be at TP USA tomorrow filling in for Charlie Kirk. And I am honored to. I have to tell you, boy, I don't know what it's gonna feel like to sit in his chair, but we'll do that tomorrow. Listen, I wanna talk to you about a friend of mine. I have a very dear friend. She's mom. She has some older kids. Later in life, she had a surprise and it was a joyful surprise. So she still has one young son at home. I remember she told me years ago when her son was 4, he was getting ready for bed one night and she pulled his pajamas on over his head and she took her face in his hands and she said, I just love you so much. And her son reached out, grabbed her face and said, mom, someday I'm going to have to fight a great battle and you are not getting me ready for it. Now, when she told me this, I said, what Are you telling your 4 year old? You're like, by the way, Jesus is coming and there's gonna be a great battle and the devil's gonna get you, you know, I'm like, what are you telling your kid? She's like, glenn, we have never had a conversation about any of that. Never. She's like, he's four. Why would I be saying anything like that? And she was just. Her and her husband were like, what? What is happening? And he was dead set. There is a great battle coming and I have to fight it. And you're not preparing me for it. Now he's 11. She called me after the shooting with, with Charlie. And she told me that the shooting reminded her of that moment with her son. And then she said something so tragic because I know this woman, I just, I love her to death and I know, I know her heart and I know the way she's raising her kids. And she said to me, I don't think I have been raising him, Glenn. Even knowing that I'm supposed to, I don't know if I've done enough to prepare him for what's coming next, to get ready him, to get ready for what he has to do in his life. We all go through this one way or another as our kids, my kids, my two younger kids moved out of the house this year. And I'm terrified. I'm terrified because Tanya and I both say we didn't do enough. We didn't do enough. And I got to believe our heavenly Father might have had a moment of that as he's sending us through the, you know, through the veil and through the birth canal going, did I do enough to make sure?

Stu Burguiere (28:41)

I mean.

Glenn Beck (28:46)

The work we have to do is the work of uniting all of us. This generation. I'm absolutely convinced this generation is the generation that has been sent here at this time for a reason. And I think I know what that reason is, but I could be wrong, I don't know, but I know it and I've seen it. I've had two gatherings of youth at my house in the last 10 days. I had about 70 people over at my house last Sunday, and I think I had about 50 people over the Tuesday before Charlie was, was shot. And I sat there and I, I taught them civics and history of our country. And I, I showed them artifacts and tried to engage with them, to get, to get them to see the things that I see that they have never been taught. And I saw it in their eyes. They are engaged. And many of them know tough Times are coming. And while they don't want to talk about it per se, they know. They know they're going to be the ones that are going to fix this and change this and take all of this on. I see it in the faces of my own children. My friend sees it in the face of her 4 year old who's now 11. And I think you see it too. The God given potential of the generations that are behind us that are now coming up. William Wordsworth, the poet, said that birth is not the beginning of our existence. Quote, trailing clouds of glory do we come from God who is our home. Each child comes to us with this divine light inside, an infinite potential. And if you've had more than one kid, you know it's not just nurture because all four of my kids are wildly different. As the kids raise the flag here at my ranch on Sunday, I looked around at them and I wished I could show them what I saw in them, the potential that all of them. I wish I could. I wish I could share with the youth just the glimpse of what I see. I wish I could send them a YouTube or Instagram or TikTok video of who they really are. You know, a video of how I really see them, how God sees them. But I think that is our mission and we have to understand. Can you imagine what the parents of the shooter feel like today? Hush. If you live in their community, I hope you let them know they're not alone. I mean, not, not, not to excuse the shooter or anything else, but my gosh, I've. I've raised 14 teenagers now and it is not easy. And all of us, all of us, we all know you got a wayward kid. And in today's world, it's even worse because there are predators out there waiting to take your kid. Our job, I used to think it was to save America, but our job is actually bigger than that. Our job is to lead the next generation to their work and not tell them exactly how to do it. Because I don't know how to do it. Do you? If I knew how to do it, I think we'd be doing it. I think too many of us think they're not capable and we're treating our kids like kids. Stop it. They're not kids at 26, I don't think they're kids at 16. Things have changed. Childhood has changed. Stop treating them like children. I mean, I know I'm like you. I get frustrated that are that our kids, you know, they, they're not like we used to Be they didn't have. You know who used to say that to the greatest generation? Their parents used to say that, too. They didn't have to work hard for a living. They don't know what it's like without these lit. This is literally what they said. Without these fancy cars and refrigeration. They don't know what it was like to get a block of ice out of the lake and bring it to keep your food cold. They're never going to be able to fight anything. They're weak. They were the greatest generation. We got to stop calling these guys lazy and lost, because they're not. They may be lost, but just as lost as you and I are, I got to tell you, I'm lost. I fight every single day with something. There's something in my head. Oh, man. Pray for me, please. I've got so many things. I got this tangled knot in my head right now, and I haven't had this. Honestly. I had the opportunity to baptize my niece on Saturday, and her husband and I stood in the waters, and I'm like, lord, can. Can we just start over with me, too? Can I just. You know, I know I'm not going under the water, I baptize somebody, but can we just start all over? Because I got this tangled knot in me, and I've got so many things that what I did, what I didn't do, and I got to get rid of it all. Take it from me, Please take it. They're lost, but let's admit it, so are we. And I know the answer for me. We just have to put our hand out to bring them, to bring them with us and ask them to bring us with them as they fight for freedom. Bible says, and about the 11th hour, he went out and found the other standing idle and saith unto them, why stand ye here all the day idle? They said unto him, because no man has hired us. We have left them idle because we have. We've made the decision that they're not as capable as we are. Have you ever worked for somebody like that? Nah, I'll just do it myself. You don't get anywhere with that kind of person. They weren't sent here to be like us. That's the point again. If we could have fixed it, we would have fixed it. They weren't sent here to be like us. They were sent here to be the battalion that God needs them to be for this time and for this moment.

Andy McCarthy (36:03)

Point.

Glenn Beck (36:03)

Let's stop trying to shape them in our image. It's our Call to help them see who they are and to grow into the image that God has intended for them. I would love for my. I'd love for my son or daughter to be like me, you know, like the things I like because we'd have such an easy time on things and, you know, do the things that I want you to do. That's not the way it is. It's not the way it's supposed to be. It's our call to help them. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds and from one end of heaven to the other. I think Charlie was one of those angels. I do. He saw. He saw the potential in the youth. Even though the culture was saying they were addicted to screens and they're apathetic and they don't. They don't know what it's like to go drag the ice out of the lake. Charlie was gathering the elect so they could bring together all of God's children from the four corners of the earth. Now it's our turn. We are the angels and they are the elect. Charlie saw that. Charlie, live that. And it's time for people of my age to live that too. Mom, dad, someday I'm going to have to fight a great battle. Please get me ready for it. Back in a minute. When you're buying or selling a home, it's not just a transaction. It is a minefield that you're walking through blindfolded. Bad timing, bad neighborhoods, bad agents who vanish the second you sign. If you've been through it, you know exactly what I mean. And if you haven't, count your blessings. I built real estate agents I trust to change all that. And they connect you with the top agents who share your values, people who actually call you back, know the market, fight to get the best deal when you're buying and selling and upsizing, downsizing, or isn't getting out of Dodge entirely. These are full time professionals. These are the people that I started working with. The 500 Best Real Estate agents in the country, according to the Wall Street Journal. I learned from them what makes a real estate agent a great real estate agent. What makes you somebody I can trust? I learned. And then we went out and we found those kinds of people. People, because there's a lot of them out there. Now we have, I think about three or 4,000 agents nationwide. So we may not have one in your area. Most likely we do, but we may not have one in your area. And we don't just. I mean, we vet these people and we keep the number strong. We have about a 10,000 person waiting list to get on. Real estate agents I trust. We won't take people. I mean, they may be good, but we just won't take people because we want to monitor everything. We want to make sure that they are who we say they are. So we monitor every transaction we. We follow up and make sure are they. Did they do what we said? What Glenn said they were like? Is that what they're like? Real estate agents I trust.com realestate agents I trust.com. it's a free service to you find the right real estate agent, whether you're moving across the street or across the country. You're selling a house that maybe your mom and dad had. Whatever it is, we can help you. Real estate agents I trust.com dump in D.C. s garbage while the SW cries constitutional crisis. Beck is back after this.

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Glenn Beck (41:44)

I have some sad news for you. Robert Redford has passed away. He was, I think, 81. Is that right?

Stu Burguiere (41:50)

89. 89, actually.

Glenn Beck (41:52)

89 years old. Wow. 89 years old. He's passed away. Now imagine if I got on and said I didn't like his politics. I'm glad he's dead. Imagine what you would think. Hopefully you would think what a monster you are, because I'm not glad he's dead. I really despised his politics. But the guy brought a lot of joy to a lot of people, including me. Well, he did well, I should say. I crashed into him on the ski slopes at one point and he was very foul mouthed and he said a lot of things to me.

Stu Burguiere (42:26)

Wait, wait.

Glenn Beck (42:27)

I should not have been on the ski slopes.

Stu Burguiere (42:29)

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? What did you just say?

Glenn Beck (42:31)

You don't know?

Stu Burguiere (42:32)

Crashed into Robert Redford on the ski slopes.

Glenn Beck (42:34)

So I'm, I'm 19 years old, 18 years. And I'm skiing at Sundance and I'm not a skier, okay? And my friend who is a very good skier said, come on up, come up with it. And it was like the doubler triple black diamond, okay? And I'm like, I don't think I should. He's like, that's not that hard. And I'm like, I'm not a good skier. He's like, it's not that hard, okay? So I'm up at the either double or triple black diamond slopes, and I get off the chairlift and I'm like, good God, man, I am dead. What have you done to me? And he's like, ah, just follow me. And he's gone. And. And so I'm skiing, not should not be up there. And this guy comes skiing next to me and I think I, I fall over or cry. He freaked me out. And so like, I crash and I knock him down and he comes tumbling and he gets up and he's got his goggles on and everything else. He gets up and some guy is helping me out and this guy comes and he just reads me the riot act with every f word. You go, you should not be up here. And I'm like, I know, I know, I know. I'm really sorry. I know. And he skis away. And the friend who helped me up was his friend, and he helped me up and he just shrugged his Shoulders and went, ah, it's his mountain. Oh, my gosh. I just wrecked into Robert Redford. This is Glenn Beck. Wow. Okay, let me talk to you a little bit about good Ranchers. I'm sorry, I'm just listening to Stu Besmirch Jamie Lee Curtis. Let me. Yeah, you did, Stu. Let me tell you a little bit about good ranchers. Every time you want meat, you go to the grocery store and you gotta ask yourself, what kind of country do I want to live in? You want a country that imports cheap, untraceable meat from overseas, you know, or one that stands with our own farmers and ranchers, ones that encouraging our ranchers, ranches and our farms to stay in business so we can make our own food. You know, when you see that product of the usa, it doesn't mean it was raised here. Doesn't mean anything. It just means it could be put in styrofoam here. This is why good ranchers exist, to provide great American meat. Fight back against the loss of American agriculture. Every box from good ranchers is 100% American meat. Chicken, beef, pork, seafood, all of it. You can get it now at Good ranchers. Every box 100%. Thousands of listeners have already made the switch to Good ranchers and left great reviews. So visit goodranchers.com shop for American meat that you can trust. And if you use my code, Glenn, today you're going to get $40 off plus free meat for life. GoodRanchers.com promo code GLENN40OFF plus free meat for life when you start a new subscription, so go to good ranchers.com good ranchers.com welcome to the table.

Andy McCarthy (46:06)

Down the.

Glenn Beck (46:06)

Road where shadows hide Feel the dark on every side Stand your ground when times get dark to face the dog and embrace the fire the fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Well, hello America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. Got a lot to talk to you about. Robert Redford has died today. Donald Trump is out of control. He's, he's, he's going to go out use the RICO act to go after people like George Soros. No, not the RICO Act. You mean the same act that the Democrats used to go after Donald Trump? You mean that RICO act? I can't believe a president would use that. This time the president is actually using it to stop homegrown terrorism and people who are trying to overthrow our nation. I don't know. Seems like a good use of the RICO Act. We'll have more on that in just a second. Also, Stu, I don't know if you noticed, but I think the President took your advice when, you know, you were saying last week, I wish instead of Chicago we would go into places like Memphis where the governors would welcome the help on crime. And that's exactly what the President is doing. That's really good news and strategically I think pretty brilliant. And we'll get into that and so much more this hour. First, let me tell you about SimpliSafe. Every night you lock your home's doors, you close your windows, you hope for the best. But let's be honest, hope is not a security plan. And bad guys don't care about your zip code. They care about how easy it is to get in and out without getting caught. Simplisafe takes that easy off the table. This is award winning home security that actually works without a bunch of wires, without landlines, without having to sign a contract that lasts longer than your mortgage. Every sensor, camera, monitor, all of it, all of it is designed to protect you with fast 24. 7 professional monitoring, rapid police response and a system you can set up yourself in under an hour. It takes about a half an hour. It's really easy. Here's the best part. You own it. You control it. You decide when to arm it, who gets in, who stays out. No pushy salespeople, no hidden fee. Just something that is in short supply these days. Peace of mind that doesn't depend on just hope because you're in. You and your family deserve more than that. So visit simplisafe.com beck and claim 50% off the new system. That's simplisafe.com Beck. There is no safe like Simplisafe. All right, so do we have the audio of Pam Bondi by any chance when she was talking about hate speech? Listen to this.

Jamie Lee Curtis (48:52)

There's free speech and then there's hate speech. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society.

Glenn Beck (49:02)

Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people?

Stu Burguiere (49:10)

So we show them that some action is better than no action.

Jamie Lee Curtis (49:13)

We will absolutely, absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything. And that's across the aisle.

Glenn Beck (49:25)

Okay? No, no, hate speech does not exist. Now let me just say this. Anybody who happens to be listening and go, you're all glad back. He's just, just lock, stock and barrel and just walking because his Zionist masters or Donald Trump tells him what to say or whatever. I've never been that guy. You know that. If you've listened to this program. Believe me, Donald Trump knows that. Just think. I'm sorry, thinking of funny exchange Donald Trump and I had about this very thing. But I say it like I feel it is. Okay. It doesn't make it right or wrong. That's up for you to decide. I'm telling you my opinion, and my opinion is this is wrong. Um, and luckily, we'll get to it here in a second. She has changed it. But let me explain. Hate speech doesn't exist. Uh, speed. The only kind of speech that can. Anybody can do anything about, especially the government, is speech that directly. And what is it? Not urgently, but quickly.

Stu Burguiere (50:35)

Imminently.

Glenn Beck (50:35)

I can't remember. Imminently. Eminently leads to violence. Okay, so it has to be you saying, I want you to pick up that gun and shoot somebody, and then that person picks up the gun and shoots somebody. Quickly.

Stu Burguiere (50:52)

Yeah.

Glenn Beck (50:52)

Okay.

Stu Burguiere (50:52)

I think the term is. It's likely to lead to imminent violence. It doesn't necessarily have to correct, but it has to correct. Yeah. So these are really high standards.

Glenn Beck (51:01)

Very high standards. Very high standards. Why? Because if you don't have that, you turn into, oh, I don't know, England. Have you seen what's happening with England? And let me ask everybody on the left and the right, do you want to put people in jail? I don't want to ask this question because I'm so afraid of the answer from half the population because 26%. We just found out a new poll. 26% of those on the left say it's okay to kill Charlie Kirk. 25% of Americans on the left that vote Democrat say the world is a better place without Charlie Kirk. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? So I'm a little afraid to ask this question, but do you want to put people in jail for what they say, what they believe? You know, I don't want to put anyone in jail because they call me a fascist. You're just wrong. You're ignorant and you're wrong. I mean, the more you say it, the more ignorant you become. Because all I have to do is go to the dictionary and look up what fascism is, and I don't fit in that category. I look up what fascism is, the actual definition of fascism, and there's one president, one. One that I can actually say was going down a fascistic road, and that was Joe Biden, and literally fascistic road, because of his public private partnership. Now, a lot of presidents have done that, but he took that and went way, way, way, way, way down the road. He was trying to change capitalism entirely into these public private partnerships. That is the definition of fascism. So please don't. Don't start in on your fascistic stuff. You're an idiot. But idiots have a right to exist. You have a right to your opinion. I would like. I'd like to live in a world where we can all look at each other and go, we're all on the road of being right. I don't know where you are. You might be a few blocks ahead of me or a few blocks behind me or maybe miles behind or miles ahead. I don't know. But I just want to understand where you are. How did you get there? How did you get there? And I want to have a decent conversation with you. This is why I admire Charlie Kirk so much. I could never do that. Never. I couldn't go to. I could not be surrounded by so many people who are just so stupid and. And won't. And just won't listen. I'll listen to you. I'll listen to you. Can you stop trying to be right? And can we just listen to each other? How did you get there? What makes you feel that way? Okay, well, let me. Let me throw this out. Do you know what that actually means? You know what the definition is? Oh, now you're. Blah, blah, blah. That's where I stop. That's where I stop. I'm not. I'm not Charlie. I'm not a good enough person to be Charlie Kirk and listen to all of that. I try. And we need to get better at it. And I need to get better at it. But that's where I want to live. I want to live in a world where we can actually have a conversation with each other. But facts actually matter. Facts matter. Logic, critical thinking actually matters. History actually matters. I don't know if we live in that. In that world, but I know this. I don't wanna live in a world where you can be shot for your opinion. Okay? That's not America. I don't know what country that is, but that's not America. That's not even England. That's not France. That's not nothing Western. I don't want to live in that world. I also don't want to live in a world like England is doing right now, where if. If you disagree with me, you can cancel me or you can throw me in jail. It starts with cancellation, and when cancellation isn't good enough, well, then they start throwing you in jail. And there is a difference between canceling somebody for what they might have said. Or what they did or whatever 20 years ago, canceling somebody because I won't put the black box on my screen. I. I'm sorry. I don't think. And as it turns out, one of us was right and one of us was wrong. I'm sorry. One of us was ahead of the other on the road to being right. And that is BLM turns out to be a total sham. It wasn't a civil rights movement. It was a sham, and we all knew it at the time. People just denied it. And you canceling me because I won't stand up for blm. No, not going to. Not going to. There's a difference between that and then saying, wait a minute, you celebrated death. You think it's okay to kill somebody for their political ideology and what they say. You think it's okay to shoot them and assassinate them? No, I don't want to work with you. And I would be like that. If anybody in my employee ever said, you know, what we. You know, we gotta do is we just have to kill XYZ because of their opinion on xyz. You're fired. You're fired. And not because I want to punish you. I don't want you in my organization. I think you're poison. I think you're poisoning. And don't think I wouldn't do it, because I would do it, and I would. I would feel justified in doing it. You can't have teachers that are teaching the young that think it's okay to have political violence. It's not okay. You know, I'm not neutral on. On a few people. Doctors. You see that story about the doctor that, you know was fired, the nurse was going to be fired because the doctor's coming out with a patient and comes up and one of the nurses said, do you hear that? Charlie Kirk died. And he said, good. I'm glad he brought it on himself. I didn't like Charlie Kirk. You know, I think that's fine. And the nurse is like, how can you possibly say that? How can you possibly say that and then tell this patient that, you know, you're gonna help them out and everything? Would you help out Charlie Kirk? What if this patient actually believes what Charlie Kirk does? Are you gonna give them less service? She was fired. She put it up on social media. Now she's got her job back and the doctor's been fired. And quite honestly, that's a position of trust. And. And don't tell me that I'm making something up, because how many doctors said. Doctors said that if you disagreed with what the government said about COVID and the vaccines. You shouldn't be treated. That somehow or another you were subhuman. How's that possible? How's that possible? It's possible because you let politics start playing a role and you start dehumanizing people. So anyway, I'm sorry, off on a rant on a tangent here. I just wanted to talk about freedom of speech. There is no such thing as hate speech. There is speech that leads directly to violence and that has to be stopped. But speech is just speech. It might indicate that you're a hater, but there's no, there's no punishment for hate speech, period. If you're threatening members of Congress, if you're threatening other people, that's not hate speech. That's threatening speech. And that's in its own category. We gotta stop with this. You know what hate speech leads to? Oh, that person killed this person. And we got em on hate speech too, so we can give em more time. Well, wait a minute. Why give them more time than the other person that was killed over here? That person hated them too. But they don't fall into a certain category, so we don't give them the same kind of punishment. What is that? What is that? That's not a country I wanna live in. That's not equal justice.

Stu Burguiere (59:07)

No, and I will say I'm pretty encouraged by the reaction on the right to what Pam Bondi said. You know, it's been pretty much universal. No thanks on that one. And look, we've all seen one of the reasons we've worried and warned the left about this type of behavior was you're not gonna like it if it gets applied to you. And they won't. I mean, and it shouldn't be. Look, this is a country where we do allow. I mean, the standards for speech that violates these sorts of ideas are, as you point out, really, really high, appropriately high. At times it feels too high. And that's exactly how it should feel. It should make you feel uncomfortable that we're allowing too much. That is exactly the correct standard. And there's gonna be a lot where we're going to hate that. We're going to not like it, we're going to be angry about it. I'm angry about it a lot. But it's the correct way to approach this stuff. And even people who are maybe not as free speech absolutist or as close to that as we might be, Glenn, even people on the right that are not necessarily in our lane on that particular issue are critical of this. This is a road.

Glenn Beck (60:31)

I think it's a really good thing. You do not want to go down that. And I would just like to point out to the New York Times, Times in Washington Post, and everybody else, if you don't think that we don't have the ability, the power, the. The righteous indignation and the moment that the things like the Patriot act are born in, which was a very bad thing, you're wrong. You're wrong. If those on the left or those on the right decided to be the monsters that some on the left are that just want to just my way, and everybody else can go to jail or be dead, we could do that right now. And we're not. I think our side is showing extraordinary restraint. Extraordinary. I shouldn't say that. Appropriate American constitutional restraint. For everything that the left has put the right through, all the names you have called us and everything else, all of the, you know, I totaled it up with my wife the other day. Since 2008, I think my family has spent about $15 million on security. That's insanity. That's insanity. You know how many jobs I could have created with that? Do you know how many, how many things I could have done with that? How many. How many people I could have sent to college on. On that money? Why do I have to do it? I shouldn't have to do it. I do. Because the left is out of control. And I warn everybody in my position, you need to spend the money. If you want your voice to be heard and you to live and be with your family, you have to spend the money. And even then, you're rolling the dice. Why? Why? Because one side is completely out of control. The other side has a problem. 7%. The left has a 26% number. They think it's okay to kill people. 7 is out of control. 26% is a radical disease. I am proud of our side thus far. Not screaming for blood, not screaming for the Patriot act, not screaming for extra constitutional things to be done. So far, we have handled this perfectly. Let's continue to do that. But I would just like to point that out for those who might be listening from the New York Times or Washington Post or anyone else. Shame on you. Shame on you for pretending that we are not restraining ourselves, but pretending that what is happening in this country on one side is damn near miraculous in this climate. Do you really think if the roles were reversed that your side wouldn't be confiscating guns and everything else right now? You know, you would be you'd be silencing speech. There'd be all kinds of new laws being proposed. The government, the president would be taking extra constitutional action. We're not doing it. And don't kid yourself, you would be. Just notice that. Let me tell you about Relief Factor. You've got pain. You don't need emotion or a motivational speech. You know it. You need relief. Not tomorrow, not after a few weeks. You need it right now. Relief Factor is not a, a pain mask. It's a daily supplement designed to target the root causes of your pain, inflammation, discomfort, and it doesn't have any of the harsh side effects of prescription drugs or the dependency on pain pills. It was developed by doctors, backed by science, and used by hundreds of thousands of Americans who've decided that I don't want to live my life at half speed anymore. Now, maybe it's your knees, maybe it's your back, maybe a shoulder you hurt years ago that never really healed. Whatever it is, Relief Factor is designed to help you get back the life you want to live, get out of your pain. It's easy to start. It's a three week quick start, let you see the results really fast, within three weeks. Because if it doesn't work, you shouldn't have to wait months to find out. You'll find out within three weeks. And if it works, if you start to see any relief, I can tell you, life gets better and better. You can live life in full speed again. Give their three week quick start a try. For 1995, visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-1-800, the number for relief. It's relieffactor.com 10 seconds. Back to the show.

Stu Burguiere (65:26)

Glenn, one other thing that's a little disturbing on this, and I know Pam Bondi has taken a lot of criticism, but she kind of doubled down on this after and said if someone requests a Charlie Kirk poster to be printed, the printing store should have to print it it and we can go after you. I mean, this is the bake the cake story in reverse. And like, these are my issue here is this is not graduate school conservatism. You don't need to get through 12 years of conservative college to get to the points where you should understand that the hate speech thing is not a thing and that you should not be forcing people to bake the cake. These are things you should learn really early on. And if she's running all of these very important pieces of our Justice Department right now with this sort of like, I don't know, reactionary sort of position on a lot of this stuff. It's really a disturbing situation. And I know the President's been very defensive of her. I'm sure she's done some good things behind the scenes. But you got to have more depth on this. At the very least, you got to be able to say, hey, this is why I think this is different than all of these positions we've all held all of these years. I don't, I'm not sure what's going on here.

Glenn Beck (66:43)

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Stu Burguiere (68:19)

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Glenn Beck (68:52)

Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. May I compliment somebody on the left that does not agree with a word I say? And I know because I know this individual, Jamie Lee Curtis. Jamie Lee Curtis came out and made a statement about Charlie Kirk. And I want you to Hear it?

Jamie Lee Curtis (69:11)

Charlie Crist was killed two days ago.

Glenn Beck (69:14)

Yeah. Charlie.

Jamie Lee Curtis (69:15)

I'm sorry.

Glenn Beck (69:16)

Kirk.

Jamie Lee Curtis (69:17)

Kirk. I just call him Christ, I think, because of Christ, because of. Because of his deep, deep belief. I mean, I disagreed with him on almost every point I ever heard him say.

Glenn Beck (69:32)

Yeah.

Jamie Lee Curtis (69:34)

But I believe he was a man of faith. And I hope in that moment when he died that he felt connected to his faith, even though I find what he. His ideas were abhorrent to me.

Glenn Beck (69:48)

Yeah.

Jamie Lee Curtis (69:50)

I still believe he's a father and a husband and a man of faith. And I. I hope whatever connection to God means that he felt it. Yesterday was 9 11. I know there is video of his assassination. I've no people who've seen it. Yesterday we watched, again, these images of those buildings coming down. We as a society are bombarded with imagery, so we don't know what the longitudinal effects of seeing those towers come down over and over and over and over again or watching his execution.

Glenn Beck (70:44)

Over.

Jamie Lee Curtis (70:44)

And over and over again. We watched the Zapruder film, by the way, my birthday, November 22nd. I'm associated with this awful day of someone being assassinated on television. But it's. As you know, this Bruder film is the only visual document that moves, that shares that horror of what happened. But here we have now these images.

Glenn Beck (71:15)

All the time, every day, and we.

Jamie Lee Curtis (71:17)

Are inured to them and we are numb to them, but they are in there. We don't know. We don't know enough psychologically about what that does. What does that do? That kind of. I don't ever want to see this footage of this man being shot.

Glenn Beck (71:35)

I didn't watch it.

Stu Burguiere (71:35)

I think it diminishes the depth of humanity.

Glenn Beck (71:41)

Now, I would like to point out that she's making a very good point of what this does to you psychologically. She is also, you know, making, you know, the Halloween movie. The Halloween movies as well. And I. I would like to just point out. And this is not a critique on her, because I love. I love her. I love what she just said. Okay? She strongly disagrees with him, but she handled it perfectly. But I, you know, I'm. I would like people who make movies to ask themselves, okay, but are we also cheapening death and life by the. By the movies we make? Because I think the answer to that is yes. I don't know by how much you know, but I. It has to. You put garbage in, you get garbage out. But again, she handled that perfectly. And I don't know how. If she's getting hate or anything else. I know it's talked about this yesterday that Kristin Chenoway, with a big Broadway star, did the same thing. And she is being blackballed now by her own industry. For what? For standing up and saying, this guy shouldn't have been shot. I mean, it just shows the depth of darkness that is living in our society, and it just has to stop. So thank you, Jamie Lee Curtis, for handling this the right way. And you know, it's funny because I. I met Jamie Lee Curtis. She was on my show years ago, and. Oh, my gosh, you found a picture. Oof. If you're watching the Blaze. Wow. Is that even me? Wow.

Stu Burguiere (73:33)

But she looks great then and now, weirdly.

Glenn Beck (73:38)

Can't say the same now. Thank you. But she was on my show at that time, and I'll never forget. Do you remember? I spent an hour with her and at the first, she was sitting in her chair and she was just pushed back and she had her arms crossed or across her chest. And I said to her at one point, I said, are you okay? And she said, you scare me. And I said, what do you mean? And she said, you scare me. I watch your show and sometimes you say things that scare me. And I. So we talked about it, and that picture was taken after. And look at her. I mean, she's next to me. She's got her. Her head on my shoulder, her arm around my arm. And I thought we had become not friends, but friendly to one another because. And we still disagreed with each other. We still disagreed with each other, but she was a reasonable human being. And obviously she is still a reasonable human being that I. I disagree with almost everything she says. And I'm sure she says the same thing about me. But thank you, Jamie Lee Curtis, for being a decent human being. Thank you for that. Now, I wish that could happen to everybody who steps out of line. And I mean that on both sides. Not on this issue, but, you know, sometimes, you know, you step out of line. Who are you to say that? Now, let me take you to New York. A decision has just been made and one I absolutely, positively do not understand. Um, and we're gonna get. We need to get Andrew McCarthy or somebody on Today or Tomorrow to. To help me out with this one. But the killer of the United Healthcare CEO, let's remember who he is. He went to New York with a gun with the intention of killing that guy. Stu. I know we have laws. When you have. When you have a plan to murder someone and it's a well thought out plan, and then you do murder them, what is that called.

Stu Burguiere (75:43)

We usually call it first degree murder.

Glenn Beck (75:47)

First degree murder. Why?

Stu Burguiere (75:50)

What is premeditation?

Glenn Beck (75:52)

Premeditation. Okay, premeditation. Did he have premeditation?

Stu Burguiere (75:59)

Absolutely. Without question?

Glenn Beck (76:01)

Without. Without question? Without question. Have you heard any piece of evidence that would make you say, well, that is kind of questionable?

Stu Burguiere (76:10)

No, not at all.

Glenn Beck (76:12)

Not at all. The New York. Is it the Supreme Court? The New York Supreme Court?

Stu Burguiere (76:17)

New York Supreme Court Justice Gregory Caro is his name. He said the evidence presented to the grand jury does not support charges of murder in the first and second degrees under the state's teachers terrorism statute. Now, when I first read that, and this is why Andy McCarthy would be perfect on this, because he actually operated in this world constantly. But like, you know, a terrorism statute, there are certain things, and we've seen this in previous cases in New York where the normal way we use a term is not the way the law is exactly written. And so to me, this is absolute, crystal clear terrorism. This is what he was trying to do. He was trying to create a sense in his, his own words, basically about how he wanted these executives to walk around constantly turning their heads, wondering if whether they're going to get shot or not. Right.

Glenn Beck (77:08)

Like this is that, is that is the textbook definition of terrorism. By the way, Andy McCarthy just confirmed he'll be with us in 45 minutes.

Stu Burguiere (77:17)

Oh, perfect.

Glenn Beck (77:17)

Okay, so we're going to get. Yeah, he'll explain this. We're going to get the answer on this one. But that is the textbook definition of terrorism. Murder in the first degree. The textbook definition is, I've got a plan, I'm gonna go kill this guy. I'm bringing a gun, I'm driving through the tunnels, I'm going in, I'm parking my car, I'm waiting for him outside of his hotel to come in or come out so I can shoot him. That's the definition of premeditated murder.

Stu Burguiere (77:46)

And the Charlie Kirk situation would be the same type of thing, right? Like both terrorism and premeditated first degree murder. I mean, it is exactly right. Now, again, not being an attorney in New York, it's possible that that terrorism situation has some distinct characteristic that makes this not qualify.

Glenn Beck (78:05)

We'll know that from anniversary terrorism and just triumph for first degree murder.

Stu Burguiere (78:09)

This is what they say. I mean, this murderer, which I'm not gonna say his name for many reasons, will still face trial on murder in the second degree and other related counts, but he no longer, Glenn, faces the possibility of life in prison without parole.

Glenn Beck (78:26)

Let me just tell you something, New York. You keep Down. Going down this road, you're going to elect mom, Donnie. And you're going to have free buses which are going to be basically mobile homes for the homeless. You're going to have crime that is absolutely out of control. Your. Your industries in New York City are absolutely going to collapse. You keep passing these laws, you keep doing these things with these Democrats that are far leftist in your state, you are going to get the future you so richly deserve. Now, when I say that, I just want to put a caveat. When I say richly deserve, do not confuse that with being rich. Because there won't be any businesses that will want to do business in New York State or New York City. So don't confuse the future that you so richly deserve with actually being rich. You will be poor, you will be destitute, you will be living in an absolute hell hole. You cannot look at. I mean, the choices between left and right, good and evil, have never been more clear in my life, in my lifetime. They've never been as clear as they are this week. Just this week. Are you celebrating the death of somebody? Are you excusing the death of somebody? Okay, nobody excused. I mean, well, I'm sure there were people that excused the death of Martin Luther King, but is it anybody you'd want to be associated with? Was there anybody that was excusing the death of JFK or rfk? Sure there were. Is it anybody you would want to be associated with? Why are you doing it today? Why are you doing it today? You should be crystal clear on that. Crystal clear. And so much of America is not crystal clear on that. When it comes to policing our own streets. You can disagree with what the President is doing. Well, you actually can't because he did it legally in D.C. and he's doing it now in Memphis because he was invited in by the Governor. Exactly the way the Constitution calls. You could have argued with him if he would have gone into Chicago, and I would have been on your side making a case both ways, but probably leaning more towards your way. I'd have to see how he did it. But he can't just bring in troops without very specific things. So he didn't do that. But how are you arguing against policing your own streets? How are you arguing against this guy not being tried for first degree murder like Stu said? I don't know the terrorism part, we'll find out about that. But what kind of loophole is that? That's insane. If you don't start punishing people, if you don't start holding people accountable it's only going to get much worse. And that is simple common sense. All right, let me tell you about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. For 2000 years, Christians and Jews have shared a story rooted in scripture and suffering and redemption and God's promise. We worship the same God, we honor the same foundations. And right now in Israel, our Jewish brothers and sisters need us now more than ever. The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is on the ground delivering food, medicine, emergency aid and hope to vulnerable Jewish families, including Holocaust survivors who should never again have to live in fear or go to bed hungry. Now, this isn't just charity. This is our responsibility. I truly believe that it's one what it means to be people of faith that we show up, we stand together and we say to the world, no, never again. Never again means never again. Not now, not ever. The Fellowship has been building bridges for decades. Now they're uniting Christians and Jews in a common cause. And right now, that cause is urgent. If you've ever asked God, what can I do, please pray on this. I think this might be your answer. Stand with Israel, Stand with the Fellowship and let our faith be more than words. Let it be action. Get more information about how you can join the Flags of Fellowship movement. Join the fellowship online at ifcj.org ifcj.org More Glenn Beck coming up next. That was a big deal to the Glenn Beck program. We are raising money for not only Erica and her children, the Kirk children, but also for TP usa. I so strongly believe in their mission and what Charlie built was truly amazing and I know some of their plans for the next election and I know how they have gotten the youth involved and that must go on. If you would like to just say thank you for everything that Charlie and TPUSA have done and you would like to help them. Every dollar that is raised will go directly to Eric Erica so she can direct it either for her children or for TP USA. And you can do that@givesendgo.com 912Project 912Project I think it's a, a, it's a nice way just to say thank you and that we support you and that we love you and we are behind you no matter what.

Stu Burguiere (84:01)

And I think too.

Glenn Beck (84:02)

Givesendgo.com 912project yeah, Erica I think has.

Stu Burguiere (84:06)

Really moved people in the way that she's reacted to this. You know, my wife just keeps sending me videos of them and the family together. She's totally distraught, I mean legitimately distraught on a day to day basis by Minus. Understandably. It's just so shocking that this could happen in our country and at the same time, somewhat predictable, which is why I think it's hitting us all so hard. But I'm really glad to see that the audience is stepping up. And it's, by the way, givesendgo.com 912project.

Glenn Beck (84:43)

Yes, I'm going to be in Phoenix tomorrow at TPUSA. I'll be filling in for Charlie on the Charlie Kirk program tomorrow. And it is. It's a real honor. It's gonna be sitting in this chair. It's gonna be really hard. Gonna be really hard tomorrow.

Stu Burguiere (84:58)

I mean, you cry over the most basic things that don't make any difference.

Glenn Beck (85:02)

Right.

Stu Burguiere (85:02)

Let alone this. I can't even imagine. There's gonna be, like four words spoken on this show. It's gonna be a disaster.

Glenn Beck (85:07)

I know, I know.

Stu Burguiere (85:09)

His carpet's going to be just soaked in tears after. After you get rid of. You get done with this. But it's a great, great tribute. And I. I know you were close to him, and, you know, I mentioned this the other day, but to somebody. But, like, this isn't just like, he's one of us as a conservative. He's one of us as in he was an audience member of this show in high school. Like, that is how one of the main ways he kind of came up through the movement. And it's just so terrible to think about it, but I'm so proud of him. Him and everything that he accomplished.

Glenn Beck (85:40)

Yeah, he was the one. And I know there are others, but he was one of them that I was thinking of when I said the next George Washington is in this audience. The next president who's going to turn this around is in this audience. He was one of them when he was very young. All right, live from Phoenix, Arizona, tomorrow, this is Glenn Beck. Imagine one of these things. You're traveling abroad with your family, or storm knocks out power locally or supply chains, you know, breaks down, shuts down the pharmacies for a week. Suddenly medications you depend on, antibiotics, blood pressure meds, diabetes supplies, they're suddenly gone. What do you do? This is why the Jace case medical exists. Jace Case, let's say you got somebody, you're in your family, your kids are sick, it's a weekend, and their temperature is spiking, and you got to drive around trying to find something that is open so you can get some antibiotics. 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I'm so proud of the race response of people all across the country with Charlie Kirk. I think the response has been incredible. I showed you a poll earlier today that shows 26% of those on the left say that Charlie Kirk in a political assassination is. Is okay, it's okay to kill Charlie Kirk. About 25% of those on the left now think that the world is a better place without Charlie Kirk. It's insane, insane what's happening. But I want to talk about our side. Our side so far has been for the most part, very, very cool. And there is a. There's a Jesus thing that I think is. Is happening all over the world that is amazing to watch the miracles that are coming. But we have to be very, very careful that we don't fall into some sort of a Patriot act kind of thing. And I want to start with a Smith Mundt story. Okay? This is something that happened in 1948 and it was very important. I want to take you back to World War I and then I'll take you to today because Mike Lee is proposing that we reinstate this act. But there is a movement on our side that says, yeah, I want to up it a little bit. And it's very important that we do not do that. And you'll understand why in 60 seconds. First Patriot Mobile. Every time you pay your phone bill, you're fucking funding something. The question is what? I mean, I thought I was funding, you know, the carriers. Well, your money goes straight into the pockets of the companies that actually support these woke policies. Radical political groups and agendas that undermine your values. They take a large portion of what they're doing and they just pour it into this ideology that you're against. But Patriot Mobile is different. They are America's only Christian conservative wireless provider. And they put your money where you your values are. Pro life organizations, veteran support groups, religious liberty causes. 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The Cold War is already beginning to chill in the air. And the Soviet Union has a propaganda machine that is in full swing. Radio Moscow, Pravda. Endless streams of anti American stories are pouring into the homes of men and women all across the globe. And Congress looked at this and said, we need a counterbalance on this. America needs to tell her story to the world about liberty and about our founding ideals and we need to tell it to the rest of the world. This is the birth of the Smith Mundt act, okay? We needed to launch things at that time like the Voice of America and Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty. These were not just radio stations. For many who were behind the Iron Curtain, these were lifelines. A Polish dissident in the 1970s or a Hungarian who lived through the 1956 uprising, they'll tell you they're huddled in the dark and they have that dial of that radio and they can tune it. And they carefully tune it. Listening to an American voice break through the static and break through the darkness and says, freedom is real and the world hasn't forgotten you. They remember that as being very important. But, and here is the key. We as a society drew a very bright red line. None of this could ever be used in the United States. Congress rightfully was terrified of unleashing a government propaganda machine on its own citizens. Now I Want you to remember 1948, Congress is still Democrat, okay? We've. You just had 20 years of the same president, FDR, they're about to say no president can serve that long. The Democrats said, no Democrat president, no Republican president can ever serve that long because we were so close to fascism. So the Democrats are very concerned about the government going fascistic. And they should know about it because they remembered the Creel Commission. Now let me take you back to World War I. The Creel Commission is something that nobody remembers and everyone should because it's what whipped America up into a frenzy to get us to go into World War I. You know it because you remember the I want you Uncle Sam poster. And I've always hated that Uncle Sam poster because of the Creel Commission. I love it. I think it's really beautiful. It was created by an artist that he didn't create it for the Creel Commission, so, you know, he was innocent. But it was the Creel machine that plastered it on every wall, every post office, every train station. And suddenly Uncle Sam's finger was pointing at you. It wasn't just a poster. It was a summons. You, we need you to go to war. Americans did not want to go to World War I. In fact, Woodrow Wilson said, you know the other side, he's going to put you into war. I'm going to keep us out of war. He knew that wasn't true within three months after his reelection. We're at war. But he had to bring the country along. So the Creel Commission, through films and songs, films like the Kaiser, the Beast of Berlin, it turned the. It turned Germany into a cartoon villain. George Cohen, he wrote songs over there, over there, where all of these things were done by the government as propaganda to get Americans to go over there and fight. Then the government went even further and they started hiring these what were called Four Minute Men. Now, imagine this. You're sitting in a movie theater. The film, you know, you're watching maybe the, you know, the newsreel. And as they're changing the reels, some guy who's just in the audience stands up, walks to the front, clears his throat, and he delivers this really well thought out and rousing four minute speech about patriotism and liberty and crushing Germany. The government had 75,000 volunteers. They gave millions of speeches. When anybody would pause in churches and schools, in parks, in theaters, they were called Four Minute Men. This was social media before social media. They were short bursts, and they seemingly were, were everywhere and always on message because the message was crafted by the government, then the Creel group, through our government, published booklets, official bulletins. They planted stories in the press. This is when we really started really getting into the press. And information was. Had one goal, all of the information, and that was rallies for this. Rally support for the war and drown out anybody that was disagreeing with that. Okay. The government actually encouraged kids to spy on their neighbors. That you were encouraged. And post. Postman did this to go through the mail if they saw. If they saw letters that were coming in and they wanted to know who it was. And are you. Are you a German spy? Are you somebody who is going to be against the war? Postal workers went through your mail, and it was legal at the time. You were encouraged. Operators were encouraged to listen to people's phone calls and to report if they were on the other side. This is Germany, in fact, because of the Creel Commission, Germans. And what's his name? The head of the. The German propaganda. Oh, what's his name? The German douchebag. I can't remember his name. Anyway, what was his name?

Stu Burguiere (96:53)

Goebbels.

Glenn Beck (96:53)

You talk about Goebbels? Yeah, Goebbels.

Stu Burguiere (96:56)

Although I like your name for him better.

Glenn Beck (96:58)

Yeah, frankly, yeah, Goebbels the douchebag. Anyway, he's the. He said we. We lost World War I because of American propaganda, but we learned how Americans did it, and that's what Goebbels did in World War II. All of this propaganda. Okay. By the way, American advertising, up Until World War II, it was called propaganda. What you heard, I wouldn't have said. Now, a message from our advertiser, I was delivering, literally. And it was cool at the time to call it propaganda because that's what it was paid for, propaganda. But after Goebbels took it and did what he did with it, we were like, oh, propaganda is bad. Okay, so here's what. Here's what happened. Because of the Creel Commission, they were pushing uniformity of thought. They did that by making sure that Americans were hearing the same slogans, the same images, the same stories from every direction, which created the illusion of unanimous consent. I want you to think about life today. I want you to think about life during COVID What was the goal of the government? To crush any dissent and to control all of the messages that were going out to make sure that you were hearing the same slogans, the same images, the same stories from every direction to give you the illusion that it was unanimous consent. What about global warming? It's exactly the same. Then on top of it, the Creel Commission demonized dissent. Okay? German Americans were part of this country forever. In fact, we were, I think, two votes away from making German our official language as the United States, not English. But they were all of a sudden branded as traitors. You couldn't. A priest went to jail because he gave the last rights to a German who fell down in front of him on the streets and was dying. And a priest spoke German and gave him the last rights in German. That priest went to jail. Okay? So they demonized dissent, then they suppressed free speech. The propaganda campaign dovetailed with the espionage act of 1917, the Sedition act of 1918. If you criticize the draft, if you question the war, you could be fined, you would be ostracized, and you could go to jail. This is Woodrow Wilson gang. Does any of it sound familiar? Now, here's what the aftermath of was after. After the war. When the war ended, the mask came off. Millions were dead. And Americans felt absolutely duped. They felt that they were tricked into going to a war that they were manipulated into. They didn't even understand it. And that's why we were such isolationist in 1920s and the 1930s, because our own government had manipulated the population to go in to fight this war. War. And they felt so manipulated and so betrayed by their own government. They were like, I don't want anything to do with foreign wars. Okay, so why did this, why did this happen in 1948? Well, because in 1948, all of this stuff is happening. And we're saying, okay, we need to have some sort of. Some sort of boundary party because we're going to start all of this propaganda for the United States and it cannot ever be turned on the people of the United States. Okay, so then why, why was it repealed? It was repealed without any really kind of conversation, because it was slipped in, called the Smith Moon Monitorization Act. It was slipped into a defense authorization bill, just like it's happening right now. The government didn't pay its bills. They couldn't come up with a, you know, with a way to actually fund everything. And so we've gotta act as an emergency. Otherwise all of our war machine and it's all gonna stop and we're all gonna die and panic. The world's on fire and all of that. And so somebody has slipped the bill in and we modernized it. Why did we modernize? Well, because. Don't you like transparency? I mean, we're doing this overseas. We're doing all this propaganda overseas. You're the taxpayer. You're paying for it. Shouldn't you see it? There was a congressman, Mack Thornberry, he was one of the sponsors and he said, quote, today the law prevents the American people from seeing or hearing the same things we broadcast overseas. And that doesn't make any sense. We paid for for it. Okay? Then they switch that from transparency to and it's helping fight terrorism. It'll let the Department of Defense and the State Department share counter radicalization material both at broad and at home. Because we gotta modernize this. The Internet is everywhere. Okay, so who doesn't want to fight terrorists? Who doesn't want transparency? Now here's what actually happened. I'll tell you in 60 seconds. First, Stu. Yeah.

Stu Burguiere (102:26)

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Glenn Beck (103:43)

So in 2012, the left decides we gotta get rid of this propaganda thing. Okay? Once the firewall was gone and it was just a blip, nobody even really noticed it. Suddenly the government agencies could circulate public diplomacy campaigns inside of the United States. And we saw this. This is where you get your USAID, the NGOs doing all the things here in the United States because they can now do it during COVID You saw this. You saw government funded messaging quietly merging with the media campaigns and big Tech content moderation Narratives weren't debated. They were handed out by the government, and then they were enforced. Then take the DHS Governance Disinformation Governance Board. This is a direct descendant from this shift. Okay, it was the government openly declaring it had a role in policing speech at home. Look at the 2016 aftermath of the elections. Reports now confirm that the US government funds originally intended for overseas information campaigns had filtered into domestic projects that fact checked, flagged, and suppressed certain narratives online. The line between foreign propaganda and domestic persuasion was completely gone. Everything they worried about in 1948 was now happening after. After 2020. Okay, so why am I bringing this up today? Because after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, we have been asking for this to be reinstated. This Smith Mundt act has to be reinstated. But after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, there is a new wave of enthusiasm for this, as there should be. But some people on our side are now demanding more than just a firewall. You go to change.org and there's petitions for a Charlie Kirk Act. And it will not only stop government propaganda, but it goes further than that. It starts to punish private media, educators, social platforms for spreading what they call false narratives. So this is. This is our side saying, yeah, well, now we want the power to do what they did. Okay, hear me clearly. Accountability matters. Lives are destroyed. Reputations are smeared. And that matters. But we have systems in place for that. What this proposal opens is a new door. A door where government decides what is and isn't falsehood. And the government cannot do that. History teaches us once the government claims the authority to define truth, liberty is gone. Okay, now enter Mike Lee. Mike Lee has another proposal. Mike Lee has a version that he is submitting to Congress and trying to get it passed. And every American should be for this. Right or left. Every American should be for this. He's not going to reinvent the wheel. He. He just wants the old firewall put back, period. That's it. The government must not and cannot propagandize its own people. Restore the very bright red line that was established in 1948. Create. It's not about silencing speech. It's about preventing the most powerful institution on earth with the endless resources of that institution, the government, and the endless reach from turning its fire hose of influence in on the American people. This is why it matters. I want you to think of. I want you to think of football. Homeboy. Dangerous. You wouldn't let the referee in a football game put on a jersey and join one of the teams, okay? But that's what the repeal did. It let the government become both the referee and the player. In the arena of ideas. Mike Lee is saying, put the stripes back on their jerseys. Make sure they're in black and white stripes so we know exactly who they are. Change.org and some people on our side want to make the ref not only a player, but the judge, the jury and the executioner. It cannot happen. This is, I'm, I'm telling you, if this goes through. Mike Lee is proposing something that is clean, doesn't have any of this in. So support the Mike Lee Monk at Monk Act. But if you're hearing people talk about we have to go further, that is the Patriot act of our day. We are standing at a fork in the road reinstating the Smith Mundt protections. They're not going to solve all the problems of misinformation, but it re establishes the ground rules and it tells Washington you cannot propagandize us, period. Once truth belongs to the state, truth itself ceases to exist. Support Mike Lee's bill. Restore the Smith Mundt Act. This is Glenn Beck. All right, let me tell you about Patriot. My Patriot Supply. If the last few years have taught us anything, it's that what we considered normal is extraordinarily. I don't even know what normal is. You know, one day your life is normal, the next, power's out, Grocery shelves empty. You know, the news is telling you, remain calm. What we've seen, I've never seen this in my lifetime. Every day I say that my Patriot Supply is America's largest preparedness company and for good reason. 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Stu Burguiere (110:01)

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Glenn Beck (110:26)

Friend, Annie McCarthy, who is a National Review contributing editor. He's also a former chief assistant U.S. attorney and a guy who, when he speaks, I almost always agree with him. And when I don't, I'm probably wrong, especially when it comes to things like this, because he, this is his expertise. He was a former chief assistant U.S. attorney and he worked on terror most of his career. I mean, he is, he is well versed on terror charges and how to try them. This, this Luigi Mangione case, the terrorism charges have been dropped. And, and Andy, if I remember right, came out with an article, I think, of last year and said, this is not going to stand. These terrorism charges aren't going to stand. And I don't understand why they won't. And I also don't understand how he's now only gonna be charged with second degree murder when it was clear he was stalking the guy. He was. I mean, he planned on killing him. He was waiting for him outside. I mean, that's premeditation, which is murder one. But I know Andy will have all the answers for us. Can you make sense of this for us, Andy?

Andy McCarthy (111:38)

Yeah, I'm afraid I can, Glenn. I think to start with the second point first, about why it's murder two rather than murder one. Back in the pataky days, which is like the 1990s in New York when he was governor, they tried to revise the New York capitol murder statute they wanted because they haven't done a death penalty case in New York in decades. And this was not, this ultimately was not a successful effort. They still haven't revived the death penalty, but what they did was they took the things that you could get the death penalty for, which in New York were only things like killing a police officer or killing a prison guard in the prison, and they made those the only murder in the first degree varieties of homicide and all other murder. Well, because they were trying to clean up. Their idea was they were trying to clean the statute in a way that murder one would be revived as capital murder, death penalty. And all right, and all other murder was going to be second degree murder. So because what we're dealing with, with, with Mangione, under New York law, would not have qualified for the death penalty could, because that would have been very, very narrow. And it's mainly killing police officers or prison guards. That puts it into the category of second degree murder. That doesn't mean, by the way, that it's unserious. It be. It has a. I think the offense in New York is like 25 years to life. So it's. It's for.

Glenn Beck (113:19)

Guy should have it. I mean, you can. You can argue against the death penalty, but the guy should get either the death penalty or life without parole, not 25 years. This guy is. That's what he's looking at. Help me out on this one. How is he not a terrorist? He had the intent to terrorize. He said himself he wanted people to look over their shoulders. I mean, he is a textbook terrorist and premeditation. Textbook?

Andy McCarthy (113:47)

Yeah. To prove terrorism, you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt an intent to intimidate or coerce a civilian population. And you have to sort of get out of the mindset that murder is terrorizing. I mean, all murder is terrorizing to the people who are obviously involved in it, and to the extent that it intimidates people. But we can't turn every murder into terrorism.

Glenn Beck (114:15)

Correct, but isn't terrorism about trying to scare the population to either vote different or change the laws to be so terrorized that they. In this particular case, he was trying to send a message to the. The industry, you better watch your back because there's more of me, and you'll get it in the end. That's terrorizing a group of people to get them to act in a way the terrorist wants them to act.

Andy McCarthy (114:46)

Yes, but it's not terrorizing how we define it. It's not terrorizing the government to change policy or terrorizing the whole civilian population. What the judge said is this was very narrowly targeted at the healthcare industry and this particular health care executive. And I guess I just don't think it trivializes the murder to say that it's not a terrorism crime.

Glenn Beck (115:16)

Okay.

Andy McCarthy (115:17)

You know, the federal government. Glenn, just so you. Just. So we're. We're clear on this part of it, there were two charges brought here. There's a. The federal charges and the state charges. So Alvin Bragg, the. The New York DA brought the terrorism charge. I said at the time I thought he was bringing it because he knew the Justice Department wanted to charge this guy, so he wanted to make a splash like the Justice Department wanted to make a splash. The Justice Department, when the Justice Department indicted it, even though Biden is against the death penalty and the Democratic administration was against the death penalty. They indicted it as a death penalty penalty case because they wanted to make a big to do over it, even though, you know, if you look at the fine print, they would never impose the death penalty. They had a moratorium on the death penalty. So in order not to be outsplashed What Bragg turned around and did was indict this what he would like. 10 times out of 10, indict only as a murder case. If you could get Bragg to indict something that was actually a crime. And he decided, he decided to make it a terrorism murder case so that, you know, they could compete for the headlines in the press. Unfortunately, this is kind of what happens in these, in these turf battle cases. But to your point about stalking and all that stuff, the federal charges, which are the death penalty charges, include exactly what you're talking about, the fact that this guy was stalked, that it was done in a very cold blooded way. And I think actually if he gets convicted in the federal, in the federal system, now that Trump is running the Justice Department rather than Biden, if he gets convicted on the death penalty charge, he's going to get the death penalty.

Glenn Beck (117:17)

Okay? So it's not like he's getting murder in the second degree and he'll be out in 25 years. The federal government is also trying him. Will it be the same trial?

Andy McCarthy (117:29)

No, no. In fact, the interesting thing, Glenn, just from a political standpoint, I hate having to get political in this stuff.

Glenn Beck (117:36)

I know me to avoid it.

Andy McCarthy (117:40)

The Biden Justice Department was working cooperatively with Bragg. I don't think the Trump Justice Department is going to work cooperatively with Bragg. And the interesting thing about that is under New York law, they have a very forgiving double jeopardy provision, which basically means if the feds go first, that will probably block New York State from going at all because of their expansive protection. And I think what Biden's Justice Department was willing to let Bragg go first so that they go second and then everybody would have a piece of it. I'm not sure, I'm not sure that Trump's guys are gonna play ball like that.

Glenn Beck (118:28)

Okay, so are you confident that justice will be served in this?

Andy McCarthy (118:33)

Well, I think that, you know, look, I think if your idea is justice served, will this guy be convicted of a severe murder charge and never see the light of day again? I am confident in that, yes. If you, if you believe as I do, that if you're gonna have a death penalty in the law, which our Constitution permits, he deserves. If you're gonna have it, he deserves it. And if he doesn't get it, he would be, you know, he'd be among a long line of people who probably deserve it and didn't get it. So I guess it depends on what your idea of justice is. But I guess if we can agree that justice is this guy Never sees the light of day again. I think justice will happen here.

Glenn Beck (119:18)

Okay, can I switch to Charlie Kirk, how is this unfolding? What are your thoughts on this? What are your thoughts on. You know, I really want to make sure we don't go too far. You know, I don't want another Patriot act kind of thing, but I do believe, you know, it appears as though there may have been many people involved, at least in knowing what does that mean to you and what should happen? What should we be doing? What are we doing that is right and wrong?

Andy McCarthy (119:54)

Well, to the extent I do, I do think, Glenn, that this is being very aggressively investigated by both the state authorities and continuing by the federal authorities. I heard Cash Patel, because I happened to be on television this morning and they broadcast that while I was on. And he was talking about that, how they are going through all of the social media stuff to see who may have had an inkling about this beforehand. And if there was any conspiratorial activity, they're going to go after it. Now, the chats that have come out so far that have been reported in the last couple of days are chats in which he. In which Robinson admitted to committing the homicide and told the people that he was chatting with that he had already arranged his surrender. If that's all these people knew, that is to say that he had, you know, he was. And he was turning himself in. Well, they might be good witnesses in terms of what his state of mind was at the, at the trial of Robinson, but I don't think that implicates them in criminal misconduct. On the other hand, the feds are going to keep digging, and I assume Utah is going to keep digging. And if they find out that somebody was involved in planning this, I think those people are going to be pursued.

Glenn Beck (121:27)

You know, there's probably. Texas would be a bad place to commit this crime. Utah, however, they have the death penalty and they use the death penalty. And, and the governor, who. I'm not a big fan of this governor, but, boy, he, he has been very strong. Strong and I think right on top of this whole thing. And he said, day one, you will get the death penalty. We catch you, we prove it in court of law, you will get the death penalty. And I think that's coming for this guy.

Andy McCarthy (121:55)

It should. Well, it's deserving, because if there's ever anything that's indicative of premeditation and repulsive intent, I would say this is. Is a textbook case of that.

Glenn Beck (122:12)

The idea that Trump is now going to go after possibly RICO charges For people like George Soros and, you know, organizations like that that are, are pushing for a lot of the, you know, the, the antifa kind of stuff. Do you see any problems with that or is this a, a good idea?

Andy McCarthy (122:36)

I just think the first thing before you get into RICO and all these, you know, RICO is a very complicated statute, even when it obviously applies. So I think that the bedrock thing they have to establish is that you are crossing the line from protected speech, a lot of which can be obnoxious speech and actual incitement to violence. And if you can get incitement to violence, you know, I didn't need RICO to prosecute the blind shape. Right. I was able to do it on incitement to violence and that kind of stuff. Those are less complicated charges than rico. But the big challenge in those cases, Glenn, is getting across the line into violent action as opposed to, you know, constitutionally protected rhetoric. Correct.

Glenn Beck (123:28)

Is there anything to the subversion of our, of our nation on, you know, that you are, you're intentionally subverting the United States of America. You're pushing for revolutionary acts.

Andy McCarthy (123:43)

You know, there's a, there's a lot of litigation that arose out of that in connection with the Cold war and the McCarran Act. And you know, you remember all the stuff from the, from the 40s and 50s forward.

Glenn Beck (123:57)

Yeah, I know.

Andy McCarthy (123:57)

And I think when that stuff was initially enacted, the country was in a different place. I think when the McCarran act was enacted, it was a consensus in the country that if someone was a member of the Communist Party hadn't actually done anything active to seek the violent overthrow of the US but mere membership leadership in the party. I think if you asked the question in 1950, most people would have thought that was a crime, and by 1980, most people would have thought it wasn't a crime based on what the Supreme.

Glenn Beck (124:30)

Court with the First Amendment. If you're a member of the Communist Party, you can be a member of the Communist Party, but if you are actively subverting and pushing for revolution in our country, I think that's a different, I think that's, that's a different cat entirely.

Andy McCarthy (124:51)

Yeah, that's exactly right. If you're. But if you have that evidence of purposeful activity. And look, if you have a conspiratorial agreement between two people that contemplates the use of force, you don't need much more than that. You don't need an act of violence if you have strong enough evidence of conspiracy. But you do want. Have to establish that they get over that line into the use of force, at least the potential use of force.

Glenn Beck (125:17)

Okay, Andy, as always, thank you so much. Appreciate your insight. Appreciate it.

Andy McCarthy (125:21)

Thank you, Glenn.

Glenn Beck (125:22)

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