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Glenn Beck
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Sam Brownback
Swipe the flame, pass it on.
Glenn Beck
Crank the game. Glam.
Winston Marshall
Beck is on Glam.
Glenn Beck
The fusion of entertainment, enlightenment and empowerment. This is the Glenn Beck Program. Hello, America. Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. From London, England, today, getting ready for the Unite the Kingdom rally with Tommy Robinson. We'll talk about that more later. It's going to be where you'll be able to see it@glenn beck.com torch on Saturday. But I really want to get to some. I want to start with some good news in America. And that is, yeah, all that crap about, oh, it looks like the Democrats are going to win. Yeah, maybe not. There's a. There's a real change in the seasons and the tide. And we're going to bring Stu in here in just a second. Yeah, you remember him? He was, yeah, it's okay. But we're bringing him in because he, he has been watching this and he's made a big, he, he made a big move. He never moves. He makes a decision on things. He, you know, does the prediction market and he just leaves his money in. He's kind of a buy and hold kind of guy. Not on this one. If you want to find out all the details, go to his website, predictable show.com predictableshow.com but he's just launched a new show with Dave Landau on Blaze tv which is really, really good and funny. And he's going to be with us now here in just a second to talk about how the midterms are suddenly looking a little different for the Republicans. Stu joins me in just a second. First, let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. Rush Tax Resolution is one of those companies that helps you solve, solve a problem, you know, that a lot of people don't want to talk about. You know, you get that ominous looking letter from the IRS and you realize, oh, crap, I'm in deep crap. And then that feeling starts creeping in where you don't even know where to begin. You start thinking about penalties and interest and wage garnishments and bank levies and all the things the government can do because, well, they're the government and maybe you shut down. Don't do that. Get in touch with tax resolution from rushtaxresolution.com rush tax resolution. It's 877-554-rush. 877-554-rush. They're just going to give you a free transcript. They're gonna look at everything that you have going on with the irs. It's free of charge. Most people will charge you for that and they will not take your case until they know they can absolutely help you. Rush taxresolution.com don't wait, do it now. Stu, how are you, my man?
Stu (Political Commentator)
Glenn, Good to see you, my man.
Sam Brownback
How are you?
Glenn Beck
Very good, very good. I wanted to get you on today because I've been reading your articles, watching your stuff, and you are, you have some good news. I wanted to bring you on when you had good news because when it comes to election time, a lot of times you're really a drag. You're right, you're right. You're always accurate, but you're a dragon.
Stu (Political Commentator)
Today it's different. Yeah. You called Me, the little black rain cloud for almost 30 years. And that was. It was a nice way to be known. I appreciated it so much. But. Yeah, no, there actually is some pretty good news.
Glenn Beck
You're not today. So tell me.
Stu (Political Commentator)
Yeah, yeah. So basically, it's funny because these things are. They originate with the left being the left. Right. They're constantly doing things to try to take advantage of. Of their situations. And they did this a couple of different times. One was when it came to trying to expand the Voter Rights act to their maximum. The maximum levels possible. So they kept harassing these states to change their districts over and over and over again so that they could get more majority. Minority districts. Right. These are districts where the majority of the voters are minorities. And they will, in theory, I guess the assumption is minorities just vote for their own skin colors so they will elect other minorities. That's basically the very cynical way Democrats looked at it for years and years and years and years. And they got courts to back them up for a long period of time. Then, of course, this goes to. Eventually this happens in Louisiana and Louisiana, they wind up challenging this, and it goes all the way to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court says what I think is pretty obvious here, which is it's not supposed to be done by skin color. It's supposed to be the exact opposite of that. We're supposed to do really almost any other thing. Glenn, you could, you can redistrict. You draw a line based on almost anything else.
Winston Marshall
Right.
Stu (Political Commentator)
Except race. Which is hilarious because it's the one thing they kept trying to put in. So they tried this, and they, they, the Supreme Court wind up saying, I know you covered this, but it's like they want to say, look, you can't just draw these lines based on race. You can use it as kind of one thing in a recipe if you really want to, but you can't just draw these racial lines. They're not going to hold. So they didn't hold. And this wound up burning the Democrats in a big way that it could wind up getting a bunch of seats to go from Republicans to Democrats. Because now these states in the south who have been doing this for years have to redraw these districts to align with what the Supreme Court said, which is we shouldn't draw voting lines based on skin color. So that's part number one. Part number two is the Virginia situation. Virginia, they wound up trying to do the same type of thing. The left went in and they said, well, we're gonna keep pushing and pushing and pushing and Pushing and pushing. And they decided to try to make it, basically. So in this purplish state, there were no Republicans to be seen anywhere. They pushed this as far as they could go. But, and this is something that we caught pretty early on when looking at this race the way that they had designed this. Glenn, there are rules in Virginia and they have this rule where basically if you're going to screw with the Constitution, you know, and you're going to screw with the way that these lines are drawn in their system, you have the original legislative vote and then you have to have a, you know, basically a another vote by the people to say, hey, we want to throw these bums out if they change the rules. We don't like that. We should have the opportunity to throw these bums out. So they, they did do that, sort of. They got the vote done immediately before the election and then forced everything through and said, look at us, we're great. We're gonna push back against all these evil Republicans and get all these seats back. For the Democrats. The problem is, once again, because the left has been the left for so long, they had opened up early voting for such a long period of time that even though they got this vote done right before the election, the, the Republicans, you know, pointed out, hey, wait a minute, 40% of our population has already voted before you tried to do this, so this one doesn't count. You didn't check off what you needed to do in the state. So the Virginia Supreme Court came in and said, yeah, you know, again, you guys pushed it too far, you bent the rules, that didn't work out. And so Republicans are able to gain even more seats because of that situation, which is really changing the whole tenor of the race.
Glenn Beck
Glenn, so do you think this is all just happening because of the redistricting or are you also seeing any indication that people are kind of like, I'm tired of all of this, they're pushing it too far. What happened in Virginia, even Spanberger coming in and saying, oh, we're not going to redistrict and then immediately pushing for redistricting that you're seeing any indication that Democrats are pushing things and pushing the American people to too far to the left, or is that just wishful thinking?
Stu (Political Commentator)
You know, I don't want to be the little black rain cloud here. I don't think I've seen signs of any level yet of a left leaning voter saying, you know what, maybe our party is going a little too far where we did see signs of that. I think back in 2021, 20, 22, where you saw the whole. The George Floyd era, I think was filled with moments where Democrats said about even their own party, hey, I don't know, maybe having some police on the streets, good idea. You know, there were things like that that did happen. I haven't seen that yet. With redistricting. The way this is being framed, I think in the left wing media and honestly the mainstream media is this is just the Democrats trying to protect themselves. They're doing the best that they can against these evil Republicans. Donald Trump is very mean and they have to do this this one time. That was the pitch from Gavin Newsom in California. Right. These places had set up systems that were supposed to eliminate the exact type of activity that Democrats are currently engaging in. And they went to their own voters and said, hey, you know, sure, we have all these rules set up, but aren't the Republicans mean that kind of has been enough for a lot of them. I do think that there is a, you know, a situation where they do push this too far. They're gonna try to challenge all this stuff. They're going to try to go down this road a little bit farther. But they have a tough argument to make to the American people who I still think, despite everything we see in the media, believe in things like skin color shouldn't matter, believe in things like merit should matter. And you know, the far they go down to push against that, I think the worse it gets for them.
Glenn Beck
So tell me what you're seeing in Los Angeles and in the California vote. I mean, you seem to, at least in the primaries, for the very first time, you have Republicans doing really quite well in the polls.
Stu (Political Commentator)
Yeah, actually it's true. There's a couple of really interesting things going on there. One is the Los Angeles mayoral election. I know you've been watching that with Spencer Pratt. He's been running a really interesting race with like really great ads and.
Glenn Beck
And he's great ads.
Stu (Political Commentator)
You watch the debate and you're just like, how could any human being think that this guy isn't the best of these three? I just, you know, you know who
Glenn Beck
he reminds me of, Stu is. Oh, what's the politician up in Canada? Remember the apple eating guy where he's just like poev. Yes, I love him. I love him. He reminds me a little of him where it's like, it's no sweat. I don't really. Whatever just answering to these people. Well, you're a moron and eating a bite of an apple. I mean, it just, it seems too easy Almost for him.
Stu (Political Commentator)
Yeah. And obviously, he knows the media really well. You look at the ad that he ran where, you know, he's showing off the houses of his opponents and then zooms out of his house, which is now a trailer because his house burned to the ground. He has real credibility there. And honestly. And it's funny because sometimes a really positive thing can potentially wind up being a negative for you in your campaign. It's obviously really difficult to win as a Republican in Los Angeles. I'm not breaking news here. Donald Trump lost to Kamala Harris 70 to 26 in 2024 in Los Angeles in a race that obviously Trump won overall. So this is a very. There's a big uphill battle. The best path for Spencer Pratt to win is for him to win a race that looks something like, you know, Pratt, 37, and then the other two at 30 and 28 or something like that, or, you know, 35, 32, 30. Right. He just squeaks out and is able to kind of go forward. The problem with this right now is the. The last debate he did so well that it wound up just destroying one of the two opponents. And you wonder if the left is going to now unite around Karen Bass, who is a catastrophe as a mayor. But it does seem like the current path. But he's got a shot. He's got a shot.
Glenn Beck
How about Steve Hilton?
Stu (Political Commentator)
Hilton, I saw you had him on. Yeah, he's. Again, you watched his debate. We paid close attention to that one on our show. Predictable with Stu, but we did. He was really good in that debate. And he has a lot of credibility. He has a way of being able to bridge a gap, I think, to a California voter who is at least sensible. And there are some there. You know, Glenn, we've been on in California for, I don't know, forever, since the beginning of the show. And every time we talk about California, we sometimes would generalize and say that they're all insane. And then there'd be people that would call up and say, wait a minute. No, I mean, I have lots of friends. Like, I swear we're not completely all like this, but, you know, Steve Hilton, I think, really appeals to not only those people on the conservative side, but also people who I think can just step back and say, okay, look, I might even be a little bit on the left, but, you know, I might not appreciate everything that. That Steve Hilton might stand for when it comes to certain policies. But at least the guy speaking common sense, you know, he said on the stage, he's like, you know, you guys keep attacking us on immigration. He's like, I'm the only one up here who is an immigrant. That's. That's who I am. That's. That's. Actually, I'm the only one who has any credibility on this particular issue. He talked about that, and I thought he was. I thought he was solid.
Glenn Beck
Let me take a quick break, and I want to ask you about a new poll that I just saw that is from Atlas intel on Rubio and Vance. And I want to get your, your view on what's happening with those two here in just a second. Talking to Stu about, you know, the prediction markets and what is actually happening now on the ground. You can find him@prredictableshow.com Also, he's doing a new show just launched in April on Blaze tv. You can see him and Dave Landau. All right, let me tell you about our sponsor. It's Patriot Mobile. Your cell phone company probably knows more about you than most people in your life do. And they know where you go. They know who you talk to, what you watch, what you buy, which is spend, where you spend your time. You know, all of it. And for that privilege, for that privilege, we send them money. So here's the question worth asking. What do you know about them? How are they using their money? How are they spending their time? What are they supporting? Patriot Mobile is America's only Christian, conservative wireless provider, which means they're actually putting their money and their time where their mouth is. They support the values that you care about. Free speech, religious liberties, the Second Amendment, supporting our veterans, our first responders, instead of turning around and funding the exact opposite, like your carrier that you're currently on is most likely doing. Patriot Mobile operates on all three major nationwide carriers. The cellular network. So you can keep the great coverage that you're used to, keep your phone number even, keep your phone. In most cases, it's just a better way to do business. It's patriot mobile.com beck972 patriot972 patriot use the promo code beck get a free month of service right now if you sign up@patriotmobile.com Becky 972 Patriot use patriotmobile.com Beck make the switch today. 10 seconds. Station ID and back with Stuart. So before I get to Marco Rubio and J.D. vance, I want to ask you, because we're seeing. I'm hearing talk here in London, Stu. People are saying everything is changing. The whole ground is changing beneath, you know, everybody's feet in Parliament. I don't know if that's Entirely true. I think that the people are speaking up. You know, all of the local elections are going way against the Labour Party and Keir Starmer and everything else. But you can't. The same thing will happen if you get the same. If you get John Thunes, Sir John Thune into Parliament, you're going to have the same thing. And the people will feel betrayed by, you know, the people they just voted for. And I don't know. So I don't know if anything is going to change. Are you sensing that any of that, do you feel any of that kind of movement in America in the races, that people are, are, are done with anything? Are we waking up anywhere on anything left or right?
Stu (Political Commentator)
I mean, I think some of that's happening. I do think that we've seen some of the craziest. You know, if you look back at the era, the sort of peak woke era, I do think some of that's receded. And I think that we have seen some people waking up and wanting to see, hey, wait a minute, I just want rational people who are going to do same things. You know, when you look at, unfortunately, you know, where we are when it comes to just regular everyday life issues. You know, you're talking. We've been doing the show for a long time, Glenn. How many elections has a party won with Four, five, six dollars gas? I mean, it's not super common. It's really hard to do. Luckily, you do have the left that goes so insanely far. I mean, like, there was an art. There's an ad they ran against Spencer Pratt going back to that election where, which was the greatest ad of all time for Spencer Pratt, where it was like, Spencer Pratt does not want to spend taxpayer dollars on the unhoused. Okay, where do I check the box for this guy?
Glenn Beck
I can't get to the polling booth fast enough.
Stu (Political Commentator)
I mean, that sort of stuff is great. The left does have that ability to go so far. I mean, I mentioned that debate. The prediction markets were incredible on that mayoral debate where the third candidate, who's kind of this Ivy League educated woman, who everyone, she was the favorite at the time the debate started. She went in there and they had that debate. Pratt did very well. He rose up. But she dropped so far, Glenn. She dropped by 40 percentage points. And her chance to win that election following that debate, to put that into perspective, after Joe Biden's debate, he dropped by 15 percentage points. Oh, my gosh, think of how horrible performance that was. Yeah, so I think there are people that do wake up in These situations, it might feel really rare. But as we get closer to the election, I think people will start coming back to that place where it's not about all these crazy issues. It's not about the personalities and the media. It's going to be more about how they feel. Republicans do have a lot of work to do to make that feel good before November, but they got, they do have some time.
Glenn Beck
Okay, let me go to J.D. vance and Marco Rubio. Those are the two big names in the latest poll. It's Marco Rubio, 45%, J.D. vance, 29%, Ron DeSantis 11%. None of the above at 10%. Marco Rubio is, I mean, he might be. It's really interesting because I think Donald Trump is allowing both of them to define themselves. J.D. vance is going to be the guy that looks like I wasn't for the war, which is really healthy for him. And he's also in charge of uprooting all of the fraud. If he actually does that, that'll be really good for him. But Marco Rubio is just seen as, I mean, does he have Keir Starmer's job yet? I don't. I mean, he does every job under the sun and he just looks normal, quiet, stable, which America might really be interested in. You know what I mean?
Stu (Political Commentator)
Yeah, I really am. And certainly he's, his performance has been really impressive. I mean, we've watched his rise, right, Glenn? We remember talking about him when he was, you know, in Florida, before he was even running for Senate. Yeah. And you know, he's had his ups and downs, I think, with conservatives at times, but man, he has been rock solid, really. I mean, the competence just is so prominent from him. Everything that he does feels like he's handling really, really well and nothing shakes him. And he's also a guy who really loves America and thinks that there's something good here. There's something that almost feels old timey to it. And I for one love it. I just love someone who's going to stand up and say, yeah, actually we're not perfect, but we're really, we're still the best place around. We still are the country that people should look up to. And I think there has been some of the negativity that's not only seeped into the left, where it's always been on America, but even on the right. I think there's been some of that that's popped up lately. So it's been really refreshing. I do think, though, you look at this poll and, you know, one of the things that you look at when it comes to who's going to win the House is the generic vote. The generic vote in this poll was really, it was a 14 point plus for Democrats. So a very, if you think of that as a left wing base of a poll, Atlas is a good polar, but this one's a very left wing sample. They might like a Rubio more than a Vance. They might like an AOC more than a Gavin Newsom. So some of the poll reflections might have to do with that sample.
Glenn Beck
Thank you very much, Stu. I appreciate it. Good to talk to you and congratulations on shows and everything else you're doing. We'll have you back again. Thank you so much, Stu. Does America. You can find that at BlazeTV now with Dave Lando, Dave Landau and predictableshow.com all right, our sponsor is Preborn. Usually women regret it when they have an abortion. Usually they often say they wish they would have given birth. They just didn't have the support from others. They, they didn't have the financial security or they didn't have the information. That's why preborn is so important. They step in during the darkest hour and they offer women who are making a difficult choice both hope and support and information. Preborn uses free ultrasounds to introduce a woman to the life, the beautiful life growing inside of her. And that doubles the chance that she's going to choose life for that baby. Then when she says, I like to, but I can't, I can't do it, I just, I don't have any support. There's nobody in the family, well, reborn is there? And they'll support her and the baby for two years, both financially and emotionally. $28 begins this whole process. It provides one ultrasound. That's less than a dollar a day. It could save a life. Actually. I think it saves two lives. It saves the baby and the mom. Now 140 will reach five mothers. How many babies can you save this year? I think this is the most important thing we can do right now. You just go to Preborn or hit £250 and say the keyword baby. £250. Keep keyword baby.
Sidekick/Co-host
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. I'm in London. The president is in. Jed, pray for the president. He just got off the airplane just about an hour ago and they gave him quite a state welcome. Rolling out the red carpet and then having weird Chinese cheerleaders. I guess. And the army, it was a, it was quite an entrance for the president. And he loves this. And it makes me nervous because he does love this. When people treat him really well, he is more inclined to treat them well. You know, if the Democrats would have done that when he came into Washington D.C. i think we would have had a very different president on our hands. Instead, they just attacked him. And presidency is doing everything he can to get Trump into his corner. We're going to talk about the China trip. We have a couple of people. Melissa Chen is going to be with us here in just a few minutes and also Ambassador Brownback is going to be with us and we're going to talk about China, what he's doing, who's on the plane, who's not on the plane, et cetera, et cetera. This, this is a very big deal. Can I just, just take a quick moment and ask who the hell is writing the cases for the Supreme Court from the state of Virginia? I mean, it is that. I don't know if you've seen this, but they misspelled Virginia. I mean, obviously no AI is happening here. Who misspelled the state you're from? Apparently it is. Who is it? The.
Sam Brownback
Who is the.
Sidekick/Co-host
I mean, their Attorney general is Jay Jones and that was the guy that was talking about killing kids.
Glenn Beck
That's right, Jay Jones and the solicitor, Solicitor General Tillman Breckenridge. And it's like me, smart enough, the right judge and say Republican mean. I mean, it is. It's ridiculous how bad they're saying now that this thing's just going to be thrown out. They filed it to the wrong court. I don't know. Good job, Virginia. Another really super good choice there in Virginia. So you got that going for you. Now let's just talk about the. I mean, turnabout is fair play. Let's talk about how much the Republicans suck. Now here is John Thune on the SAVE Act. Listen to this.
John Thune
We don't have the votes. Get rid of the filibuster. We did. We called it on top floor.
Sam Brownback
We stop.
Glenn Beck
Can we stop? Can we stop? Can we stop? You don't have the votes for the filibuster. Hmm. John, whose fault is that? Could that be? Oh, I don't know. Your fault. Could it be? Could it be? Aren't in that your job to get everybody? You can't just. I mean, you can get everything else done. You can get things that nobody in America is want except for you stooges. You can get all of that done. But this one we just don't have the votes. We don't. But listen, he's trying really hard. This. Your blood will boil. Listen to the rest of it.
John Thune
We don't have the votes to get rid of the filibuster. We did. We called it up on the floor. March, I think, 17th. We were on it for several weeks and had a very spirited debate. In fact, I actually, I think with the exception of maybe a couple of Republican senators, made more speeches on the floor in support of the SAVE act than almost any other senator. And we had some votes on it. And we voted on the narrow issue, which is the most popular, popular one of voter id. And we put the Democrats on the record. Every single Democrat voted against it. We added. And one of the other elements also popular was whether or not biological boys ought to play in girls sports. We had that vote and every Democrat voted against that as well. So we've taken what I think are probably the two issues in my view that have the broadest public support and put the Democrats on record. And every single one of them voted against it. So for opportunities to get other votes, there was a vote on the budget resolution, an amendment that Senator Kennedy offered that didn't even get 50 votes on the floor. And so we're continuing to look for opportunities to advance that legislation. Obviously it's something that I support. I think we all support.
Glenn Beck
There's not enough SSRIs for me to listen to any more of that. There's just not. I could go to the SSRI factory and there wouldn't be enough to bring my mood up after John Thune speaks about that. First of all, you got him on the record. Oh, I'm so glad you got them on the record.
Winston Marshall
Woo.
Glenn Beck
Now we can run campaign ads. You know, that reminds me of. It reminds me of. I hate to bring this name up. Hang on. If you have any mood elevators, just take them. Because I want to bring up Orrin Hatch. Orrin Hatch told me at one point, you know what? I don't have to worry about all of these tea partiers, okay? He's talking to me like Oren, you realize I'm kind of a tea partier kind of guy, right? Yeah. I don't have to worry about all these tea partiers. They're going to love me. All I'm going to do is I'm just going to. I'm going to take a vote. I'm going to suggest we vote on a flag burning amendment and then they'll all come running back. Oh my. Gosh oh, my gosh, I hate you so much. No, no, this is the same kind of thing. Listen to what he's saying. Listen to what he's saying. We got him on the record, so, you know, and, you know, and we also talk to him about biological sports. We're not talking about biological males in sports. We're not. We're not talking about that. We're talking about the Save America Act. There's different, you know, men in men's sports. That's a really good thing. Really, really important. I got this one's called the Save America Act. You know what it does? It Saves America. And you couldn't find a way to get that one done? You couldn't. I just couldn't muster it. It's not that I don't want to pass it. I just don't know how you are. I'm sorry, but I. I'm just not mature enough and I do not have the vocabulary to say anything else. But you're a giant wiener.
Winston Marshall
And that's.
Glenn Beck
And that's as good as. That's as good as it can get for me. Sorry. Glad you're on the record there, John. We know who you are. No one should ever vote for this guy ever again. No one should ever vote for him ever again. And you know what I mean, China is going to be our boss anyway. AI. I mean, maybe I can hack into the system and I can get a list of all of the. The people that are voting for John Thune and I can go visit them at their house. I'm like, what the hell are you thinking? You want to be a wiener too? No, don't. Don't vote for him. Don't vote for him. Long, long memory. This guy is worthless. Absolutely. Were Save America. 80%, including the Democrats, are for this. And you just. I, you know what? I couldn't get anybody to vote for it. I just couldn't. I couldn't do it. I don't know what happened there. I should.
Sidekick/Co-host
It's like when you asked me to help get you into Iran after, you know, the regime falls, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm all over that.
Glenn Beck
Are you omitting something here that I think you're admitting something you shouldn't be admitting?
Sidekick/Co-host
I sent an email.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I said a strongly worded email.
Winston Marshall
Yeah, yeah.
Glenn Beck
Okay, good. Here, here, John. Here's. Here's how you get it done. This one is from the. The Texas speaker of the House, Cameron Sexton. And it's going to the leadership, Karen Camper. In Nashville, Tennessee. Dear Leader Camper, Due to the actions taken by members of the Democratic caucus during the second extraordinary session of the 114th General assembly aimed at disrupting the democratic and legislative processes and creating disorder on the House floor, including but not limited to. Remember seeing the footage of this where everybody was causing all kinds of problems. The Democrats were interlocking arms in the well of the House, blocking aisles on the House floor, instigating and encouraging disruptions of the legislative process in coordination with paid protesters and attendees in the gallery, including the distribution of earplugs to members of your own caucus, the use of prohibited props and noisemakers on the House floor, demonstrating the lack of respect towards fellow members, seeking recognition to speak on legislation, and flagrant disregard for the permanent rules of the order of the House, Members of the Democratic caucus will receive individual letters removing them from all standing committees and subcommittees of the House, except where membership is required pursuant to Rule 65 of the House rules. See ya. Actually, he wrote, sincerely, Cameron Sexton. That's the way a man handles things, okay? I don't know about you, John, but somebody has a wiener, somebody doesn't. Which one? I don't know. That's the way you handle it. When is anyone in the Republican party going to have the balls of Tennessee? That's exactly how it should have been handled. That is the first. It makes me, honestly, makes me want to move to Tennessee. Oh, and don't, don't test me, Tennessee. I'll do it. I'll do it.
Sidekick/Co-host
He loves to move.
Glenn Beck
Nobody else does. But I don't have a problem with that myself. Let's see. Oh, in Virginia. And you'll never guess the county in Virginia where this is happening. It has been revealed now that the Virginia student accused of photographing and videotaping more than 40 students under a bathroom stall at Freedom High School identifies as transgender. Principal Tina Brown sent an email to parents last month announcing that a student had allegedly been caught recording another student under a bathroom stall. Now you, as a parent, what would you do? You get that letter, what do you do? I don't. As a dad, I don't think I read a strongly worded letter. I don't think I go, well, you know what? Let's see how this plays out. If I have a daughter or a son in that school, I'm at the school immediately. At the school, get this. Announcing that a student had allegedly been caught recording another student under a bathroom stall, Brown issued a follow up email last week stating that it was not an isolated incident and urged more students that may have been victims to come forward. Looks like there might be as many 40 as 40 people that have been photographed by this dirtbag kid.
Sidekick/Co-host
This seems to be a problem in Loudoun County.
Glenn Beck
You think. You think it really.
Sidekick/Co-host
You recall the father that was arrested during the school board meeting because of what happened to his daughter by a, quote, gender fluid individual? This is 2021. We're in 2026. What's wrong with Loudoun County?
Glenn Beck
Let me ask you this. What's wrong with the Democratic Party? Let me take you to Seattle. A Seattle public school teacher under investigation over allegations she physically abused a student is likely to become the next president of the Seattle Education association, the union for educators and staffers. She is. She's under investigation that she physically abused a student. Now, listen, this is. This is what happened to her. The parents of a third grade student at Rising Star who has autism. A speech delay is partially verbal. The parents said they noticed bruises in the shape of adult fingers on their son's arm in October and again in December. Using visual aids, they asked their son whether an adult caused the bruises and he identified this teacher. Parents also alleged that in December, their son's therapist saw her throw a marker at the child's head, which allegedly struck his face while he was working at the whiteboard. And she's going to be in charge of the teachers union. So let me ask you, not what's wrong with the people in Virginia, not what's wrong with the teachers in Virginia or the voters in Virginia, not even about the transgender students that are going underneath a bathroom stall. What's wrong with the teachers and the Democratic Party? What's wrong with the labor unions and the Democratic Party because they seem to love to abuse kids one way or another? It seems always to be a teacher, a union, a Democrat. I mean, what's the deal? It's not always that way, obviously, but it seems to be a problem. What is happening with our teachers unions? I gotta tell you, I say this all the time, and I love teachers and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's lots of great teachers, but I don't know how you pay. I cannot. I can't put you into a. You're a trustworthy citizen if you're in the teachers union. I can't do it. I can't do it. How many. How much more evidence do you need? I mean, you could just stop. Full stop. Hey, by the way, who's. Whose fault was it that our kids were so scarred because of the masks and no School. Oh, that's right. It was the teachers union, full stop. You could stop there. But then everything that you see the teachers unions doing is always against the students. It's, it's, it's incredible to me. This is just a hive of evil, it seems to me. And I don't know if you're a teacher, if you're a good teacher, how you don't see things like this and go, I can't be part of that union. I just can't be a part of it. I'd like to be, but I can't. They're so far away from anything that seems to be common sense and decent when it comes to kids, I can't be a part of it. So I'm sorry, teachers, but there comes a time when you have to distance yourself. There comes a time when you have to go, you know what? I got to get up and leave. I can't do it. I'll give you an example. I did this last night and I did it too late. Let me tell you. I'll give that story to you here in just a second. First, let me tell you about Simplisafe. Fortune favors the bold. That phrase describes something important about the American spirit. Unfortunately, there's another group of people who live by the same philosophy. It's criminals because it takes a certain kind of boldness to walk up to somebody else's house and decide that you have a right to what's inside of you.
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Melissa Chen
Good. How are you doing?
Glenn Beck
Really good. Good, good. Thanks for joining me in person. I Appreciate it. I know what the traffic is like here in London. It is nasty. It is nasty. But good news is gas is so expensive, who can afford to drive?
Melissa Chen
That's right.
Glenn Beck
So I want to talk to you about the president being in China. He just landed, and they really rolled out the red carpet for him, unlike I've seen them roll it out for anybody else. Playing into everything that Donald Trump loves. They're going to treat him like he's royalty. What? First of all, any idea the president gets that, right? He knows that we are not friends, because I never hear him actually really go after China in an overt way.
Melissa Chen
Yeah. Yep, that's right.
Glenn Beck
Does the president know China is not our friend?
Melissa Chen
Oh, the president knows.
Sam Brownback
Okay.
Melissa Chen
All right. And Donald Trump has been speaking up about China actually, since 2011. His rhetoric kind of dies down after he becomes president.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Melissa Chen
But even on the campaign trail in 2016, his rhetoric escalates. He says, China is raping us. They're taking advantage of us. He's screwing us over. And so he's been actually very consistent because he noticed that China's taking advantage of the trading system situation with the United States. But since he's become president, he's had to kind of dial down the rhetoric
Glenn Beck
on the surface, which I'm totally fine with.
Melissa Chen
Right.
Glenn Beck
But.
Melissa Chen
But his actions have been to start a trade war in 2017. Right. So he broke what was bipartisan elite consensus at the time, which was engagement with China is good. If they become rich, they will become more like us, and they would liberalize and they would join the world order as responsible. Okay. None of that happened. But Trump has been consistent on noticing that China was responsible for disrupting the global trading system, of deindustrializing, of shipping American jobs overseas. And he's been talking about that, about the large trade imbalances prior to Donald Trump. No one's really broken out of that paradigm. So I think, you know, with Trump on China, always watching, watch. Especially now that he's in power, always watch what he does, not what he says.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I agree with that 100, 100%. However, you know, he's bringing our. Our AI guys over. What do you think that's about?
Melissa Chen
Not just AI guys.
Glenn Beck
He's bringing our biggest business.
Melissa Chen
How big? Like the. The top CEOs, including Boeing. You know, we should also say he's actually bringing. I kind of love the fact that he. That Marco Rubio is there on the plane with him, and he was. Tracks in the tracksuit. But, but the best part about Rubio is Actually, that Rubio is sanctioned by the Chinese. So in 2020, Rubio was on the right side of the Hong Kong issue. He supported the Hong Kongers. He's been consistently one of the most critical of the Chinese Communist Party.
Glenn Beck
That's good.
Melissa Chen
And along with Ted Cruz, he was sanctioned, so he said, not allowed to go to China. His assets, he didn't have any. Were frozen in China. It was kind of like political theater to make a point. And what the Chinese did this time. So Rubio's name in Chinese is Lu B Ao. Okay. Which sounds, you know, like that. Remember that Asiana Airlines thing when. When someone does the out low, we too low outing bang. Okay, never mind. But it sounds like that. Okay, but instead of keeping the sanctions or like rescinding the sanctions, what they did was just change Rubio's name in Chinese so that, oh, now the sanctions don't apply. Right. So instead of Lu Biao, they just changed the character of Lu so that it's like, oh, it's a different. Different guy coming in. Right.
Glenn Beck
Why would they do that?
Melissa Chen
Because it is a culture which cannot admit any political errors. Right. It's to save face. Like, because to actually reverse the sanctions would be to admit, oh, we kind of did something that is, you know, a mistake, an error. So I. I think that is actually, you know, very telling of how the Chinese things.
Glenn Beck
So what do you think the President is going for? What can we. What can we come home with that? You're like, okay, well, that's good, right?
Melissa Chen
There are a few things for America and China to kind of negotiate on. You know, there is a ongoing trade dispute. Right. Since Liberation Day, there's been, like, tariffs here, terrorists there, and then secondary tariffs as well. So one of the things that they're going to be looking to talk about is trade mechanics. The second thing is that China's only card is actually on critical minerals. And so when the trade war escalated, China passed some export controls to prevent the United States from getting critical minerals. China has about 70% of the world's critical minerals. 90% of the world's critical minerals are processed and mined, which is, you know, that's the important thing is the processing part. So we, every F35 that we make, every Aegis radar, every tank, all these military things that we need for our US Military, they require super magnets, and those elements are refined and extracted by the Chinese. I mean, at the end of this, we need to really, like, ask ourselves how the hell we ended up in this situation. I know, but because of that China has cards in the trade war. And so when they were displeased about the tariffs, one of the first things they did was pass export controls saying, all right, we're not going to export to you critical minerals that you need for the military. And so Trump has to come to the negotiating table on these critical minerals to make sure that China does not extend the export controls and allows some of the rare minerals to get exposure.
Glenn Beck
You know, what's scary is Carney, they just closed the mine. China. They allowed China to buy it. Yeah, to buy the mine that makes. Takes that exact mineral, extracts it and shut it down. It's the only other place in the world that they were mining for that stuff.
Melissa Chen
Right.
Glenn Beck
I mean, Carney is in deep with the Chinese.
Melissa Chen
Right. But that's why Trump has been signing critical minerals deals with Chile, with everybody, quietly. We've been doing things in Greenland as well. And that's part of the critical minerals play. But the other thing that Trump really wants from China is some kind of indication that China would help on the Iran issue. And the reason for that is that China is actually very dependent on Iranian oil. 12% of of China's oil is coming from Iran. 50% of China's oil comes from the Strait of Hormuz, from other parts of the Gulf. So from Saudi, you know, from various parts.
Sam Brownback
Parts.
Melissa Chen
And so choking off Iranian oil has been China's suffering. Quietly. They don't really want to show that they're suffering, but their factories, their tin pot refineries have been relying on discounted Iranian oil.
Glenn Beck
They're deep in bed with Iran, with Iranian officials and the government.
Melissa Chen
Exactly. And so what Trump wants is China. You're suffering because of this war. You should be helping us. You want to prove that you're a responsible world actor, help us pressure the Iranians, because China's the only one that has leverage on the Iranians.
Glenn Beck
So do you think that one of the reasons why we just occurred to me and I. This probably is wrong, but one of the reasons he went in recently is this trip's been on the book for a long time, that one of the reasons was to be able to have this card to hold.
Melissa Chen
I don't know if he meant that, but ironically, it's working out that way. It's working out that way that, like, if you actually look, if China, if Trump went to China on January 1st of this year, he would not have the cards he has now. Because after the movement on Venezuela, after the movement on Panama, after the movement on Iran, it turns out that The United States actually has choke point leverage on China. So they have extra cards and the Chinese do have leverage.
Glenn Beck
Why is it that nobody, nobody in America sees what he's doing with the choke points? I mean, I think this is one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen a president do. This guy, if. If this holds and we can solidify everything in 10 years, America is a different place. 20 years, we are really set, and people will look back and go, that was the turning point. This is the turning point, I think, with the way he's controlling the. What he's doing all around the world, restructuring absolutely everything, controlling choke points all around the world, and yet nobody seems to notice it. Nobody seems to. At least in America. He's like, yeah, but my gas is. Yeah, but. Yeah, but. Yeah, but you want to fix the world and have America be viable for the next century. This is the bare minimum you can do. That would hurt.
Melissa Chen
No, I totally agree. Because short of kinetic, ultimately, America doesn't want to get into a war with its near peer, right, which is China. We're trying to avoid that. And so the whole strategy is to deny them in different domains. And one of them is choke points. It requires constant vigilance because it's not just on choke points. It is on trade. It is denial of, you know, any kinds of leverage the Chinese have because they've kind of mastered the art of even turning economic engagements into political warfare, right? So everything is political warfare. And slowly they've been eroding that world system. I mean, I see the original sin as allowing China to enter the WTO because. Because that system was never meant to occur. A Leninist, Marxist government.
Glenn Beck
People don't understand that. They've never. There's never been a Runnymede moment. There's never been a moment of the Magna Carta or the Declaration of. They've never had kings have rules and answer to the people.
Melissa Chen
Ever in China?
Glenn Beck
China? Never.
Melissa Chen
No. So not only that, you know the words for rights, like individual rights, for example, it didn't exist in Chinese. So it. When books. Books were translated, it had to be invented. And that's because they didn't have a system. They just never had the.
Glenn Beck
That's what I mean. They've never had that moment where people have risen up and said, wait a minute, I have rights. They don't have that concept at all.
Melissa Chen
And when they tried in 1989, when students took to Tiananmen Square, right, the students actually built a statue, replica Statue of Liberty. They were holding pieces of the American
Glenn Beck
declaration, Hong Kong, they were holding the American flag. And the minute we, we got distracted with COVID the minute we looked away, those people were all gone.
Melissa Chen
Exactly.
Glenn Beck
I mean it's a bad. I just wish people would see China for what it really is. I think my eyes are even opening on China a bit more. I'm glad on how bad they really.
Melissa Chen
You have to be. You have to be and especially domestically because a lot is happening under.
Glenn Beck
So I want to talk to you about that because we just had the. Another spy, another mayor now is a spy. I mean they are playing a long term game. They're looking at people they can get long term. We'll bet on you. And they're spying. They're buying up farmland. They're all around our military bases. I mean and we don't seem to do anything at all. I mean China, if we did any of those things to China, they would not put up with it.
Melissa Chen
Right.
Glenn Beck
We just keep putting up with it. I don't know why. Well, I get more from Melissa here in just a second. First let me tell you about our sponsor this half hour. Our sponsor is Z Factor. I don't need to tell you how important a good night's sleep is. There is nothing like quite like waking up in the morning feeling refreshed and if you're like most people you just can't fall asleep. You know you wake up during the night, you can't back get back to sleep afterwards. This is where Z Factor can really help for help you. It's from the makers of relief factor 100% drug free way to help you fall asleep faster, sleep better and stay asleep longer. Z Factor they use a formula of all four natural ingredients to calm your mind and relax your body and you can ease into sleep faster and sleep through the night. You're only really truly at your height of your health when you're getting the right amount of rest regularly. So give, give yourself a gift of sleep. Z Factor Give it a try now. Right now you can save 46% on your first order. It's $19.95 for a 30 day supply. Call 800 for relief 800 the number 4 relief or relieffactor.com better sleep better days with Z factor from relieffactor.com 10 seconds station ID. So we're with Melissa Chen. She is the managing director of Strategy Risk that's a New York based business intelligence firm specializing in geopolitical risk analysis. Primary focus on China, the exposure for corporations, investors and policymakers and she also occasionally writes for a Spectator about China and global affairs. And she's a good friend and we're glad to have her. Melissa, tell me, tell me about what? How bad is it in America? Because I think some people who are paying attention are like, wait a minute, they're buying up an awful lot of land. You know, they got farmland, they've got land all over the country. They have land by some of our really important bases. That balloon that, you know, blew across. Yeah. Spy balloon was insane. And now we're seeing in California that they are, they're working and, and co opting politicians. How bad is it actually?
Melissa Chen
The scope and depth of this infiltration is breathtaking. It's in every domain. And one of the things that they like to do is to actually exploit the gap between local, the federalist system, basically. So you have local and state governments and then you have the federal level governments. The good thing about this system is actually what is weaponized by the Chinese, right? So they're kind of experts at recognizing how do we use American values or the American system against itself. Right. So good example of this happening right now is birthright citizenship. Right. The Chinese are having anchor babies, for example, Right. Using surrogacy laws. One man alone, a video game developer who's a billionaire in China, has 200 babies and he hasn't even met them through surrogacy laws. And they will obviously all become U.S. citizens. And so they're very good.
Glenn Beck
Where was that story, Ricky, was that in Houston that they found the birth, the birth centers.
Melissa Chen
They've had them in California as well.
Sam Brownback
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
I mean, and they're just coming. And it's clearly advertised in China as this is what you're doing, you're going to get, you'll have a U.S. citizen.
Melissa Chen
And they coach them how to lie to the immigration officer so the 8 month old pregnant women could be let into the US this is happening. Right.
Glenn Beck
So the plan is, I mean, those are not people saying, oh, I want my child to be free and be an American citizen. This is, this is a communist plan.
Melissa Chen
Yeah, it's a trojan horse, essentially. You can swing elections this way. Citizens have security clearances that you know, merely a PR or a, or a visa holder will not have. Right. And we've already had this. We've had spies. You mentioned this mayor of Arcadia, but you have spies turning up everywhere. Even Chinese students bringing in pathogens. Studying at the University of Michigan. You have spies. And by the way, you don't even need Chinese citizens. They are able to convince even active members of the military US citizens, they may be of Chinese descent or not, who end up down, you know, just for $10,000, downloading all these plants and operational secrets from the US Navy, as just happened in San Diego, and sending it to the pla. So it's, the whole point is, you know, what exactly can we infiltrate and co op to advance China's strategic goals against us?
Glenn Beck
Once how far do you believe the stuff about their AI being ahead of us?
Melissa Chen
I think. Well, I think China's kind of playing a different AI game than the US in the sense that the US still has the edge on, you know, chips and kind of model innovation. But what China has advantages on is scale. And so they can incorporate models very easily and very quickly into their systems and scale it up. And so what China wants to do is if they get more people hooked on their models or hooked on their AI systems, then they set the norms. They set the norms and standards for AI protocols.
Glenn Beck
They're trying to, to talk about today is try to get on the same page for the norms, which, I mean, I don't know. I don't trust anybody involved with the AI thing, let alone China.
Melissa Chen
Right.
Glenn Beck
It is so good to see you. Thank you for coming by.
Melissa Chen
Thank you so much for having me.
Glenn Beck
You bet, you bet. We'll have more on China here in just a second. We have Ambassador Samuel Brownback. He is going to be on with us here in just a second. China is also got a big war on fake faith. And how exactly are they warring on faith? He's going to explain as the president just landed in Beijing. All that coming up in just a second. Standby. All right, let me tell you about American financing. Don't wake up one morning and say, wow, today's a great day. I want to refinance my house. Nobody does that. Nobody does that. Usually it happens because life is getting really expensive in ways that you didn't expect. And so maybe today, after many, many months of you going, she's like, what am I going to do? What are we going to do? The credit card balances are getting out of control. They're creeping up. Interest rates on the cards are hitting insane levels. Maybe everything costs more than it did just a few years ago. I saw the price of groceries is up another two and a half percent this month. It's not good. This is why you need to know about American financing. They will help homeowners look at ways to lower your monthly expenses, consolidate your high interest debt, and put yourself in a stronger financial position without playing games or using a lot of confusing financial jargon. They actually will take the time to talk with you about your specific situation because everybody's finances are different. What makes sense for one person may not make sense for somebody else. If there's a way to give yourself a little more breathing room every month, it's at least worth having this conversation. The average person on this program that listens program is saving about $800 a month just over that. No upfront fees to find out. 800-906-2444-080090-62440 nmls182334 nmlsconsumeraccess.org APR for Ritz in
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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're talking about China this hour. I'm going to get to some of the other things that are going on. The king just spoke here in Parliament. I'm in London this week. He just spoke in Parliament. He said some really, I think, very disturbing things about global warming and also digital id. It is coming strong here in England. We'll get into that here in a minute. I'm reading a couple of books on China right now, and one of them kind of goes into how we just don't understand China at all because they've never had, they've never had any religion, they've never had any emperor at any time that has been about human individual rights, never. So it's not even part of their, as Melissa just said, not even part of their vocabulary to have these rights. And there is presidency is not a good guy, not a good guy. And there is real persecution going on. And I have to tell you, I was in, I lived in New York for a while and I would pass these people who are on the streets, the Fulan Gong people, and I'd pass them and I'd see these horrible things that they were saying. And I never stopped to really listen. And I feel horrible now because now I'm beginning to understand what the hell is going on in China. And it's Christians, it's Buddhist, it's Muslims, full on Gong. And anybody, anybody who wants to be religious. And they are now passing out Bibles that change everything. They were placing, just as they did in in fascist Germany under Nazis, replace the pictures of Christ on any altars with the picture of their dear leader. And one of the guys who really knows this is a former international religious freedom ambassador and former governor of Kansas, Samuel Brownback. Sam just put out a new book called China's War on Faith because they are waging a war on faith. And every American needs to understand that China is not our friend in any way. Sam, welcome to the program. How are you, sir?
Sam Brownback
I'm good, Glenn, and thank you for taking this topic on and being willing to talk about it. I think it's just so critical, and I think we have just a real lack of understanding of what this is and how significant it is that's going on.
Glenn Beck
Sam, I have to tell you, I think that we are, we're in a spiritual battle. We are not battling, I mean, Ephesians. We're not battling flesh and bone. We are not even battling, you know, Republican, Democrat. We. There is a spiritual darkness. This is a spiritual battle on the so many fronts. So tell me about how China is waging this war on faith.
Sam Brownback
Well, really, that's the COVID of the book. It's a big dragon with strings controlling people underneath. It is on the COVID of the book showcasing this war that China has with faith. You know, one of the guys that's. That we feature in the book is Peter Xu. He was considered at the time the and one of the original house church leaders, the Billy Graham of China. He's here with us in Washington with the book rollout. And he said yesterday that China has been biting their time until they got strong, but now they are revealing their inner darkness, and we must restrain this power of darkness. That's Peter Xu saying that. And I think that's what you're starting to see. They are strong now, but this is all. It's. They're at war with God. They are at war with all faith. They can't tolerate any power that's higher than the government's. They will not tolerate it. They will suppress it. They will kill you. They will put you in prison. The rest of Christian pastors now is the highest, I would argue, since Mao, and that's what Xi Jinping is doing now. And a lot it's out of control. They want to control the place. They want to control other authoritarian regimes. And so they share their technology and ability to do it. It is a direct confrontation to the Western civilization system that's built on the Judeo Christian ethic of human dignity based on the individual created in the image of God.
Glenn Beck
So tell me, tell me, give me examples of what they're doing that people don't know in China. Start there.
Sam Brownback
Well, most people don't know about the forced organ harvesting that you witnessed that the Falun Gong members would talk about, but they will. If you're an opponent of the regime, they take your blood type. They want to know who, what. What type of blood, what type of body you have. And then at their desired time, they will kill you and harvest the organs. Kidneys, livers, eyes. I did the forward for a book just recently out on killed to order, where these would be situated on a timing basis. And, you know, this is so. Glenn, this is so diabolical and evil. It's hard for you or me to imagine a government even thinking of something like this. And yet they. They do it, and it's China. And they. They denied, of course, and everything. Actually, for a while, they didn't. They said, well, yeah, we did. For those that were having capital punishment, we thought this would be a good utilitarian thing to do, to go ahead and harvest the organs. But we don't do it anymore. Well, they do still do it. And they do it to Falun Gong members. They do it to Muslim Uyghurs, who all knows who else that they do it to. And that's something. I don't think people can fathom the evil of this regime. This is an evil regime, and they have killed more people. The Chinese Communist Party has killed more of their own people than any other regime in the history of mankind. Let that one sink in.
Glenn Beck
If you count the forced abortions, the number is as many as 500 million.
Sam Brownback
Yes. And I'm not even counting the forced. I'm not even counting the forced abortions in the. When the statement I made. And then at the current time, they've got three genocides going on now as we speak. The Muslim Uyghurs that we had declared as a government the end of the first Trump administration. The Tibetan Buddhist that they've gone at hammer and Tong for decades now and doing a cultural genocide, but they've wiped out many people. And of course, the Dalai Lama cannot return to his own home area, and the Chinese government wants to appoint his successor and then fall and Gong, who they literally have decimated. And I think they fear the Falun Gong more than any religion because it's an indigenous Eastern religion. It's what Grandma used to practice. And when they let it loose for seven years in China, where they said, okay, we'll let you guys practice it, it went from zero to 90 million adherents in seven years.
Glenn Beck
Oh, my God.
Sam Brownback
And it freaked the Chinese government out. And they said, these guys are dangerous. And they went after him to eliminate, annihilate Them, which is the definition of genocide, where you're trying to eliminate a whole group of people.
Glenn Beck
So, Sam, you've talked to the president about all of this stuff. He knows. What are you hoping when he sits down with Xi Jinping this week? What are you hoping we can get
Sam Brownback
out of this, Glenn? I think really both sides right now just want to calm the waters for a little bit and get the temperature down. I am, I am not expecting much. I really hope he does get like Pastor Ezra Jinn out of jail. Jimmy Lai, there's nine Catholic bishops that are detained, arrested. I would hope they would release them. I'm not expecting that, honestly. I just think really this meeting right now is just trying to cool the waters down. But I think when they raise Taiwan, which is a no go for us, we should raise religious freedom with them, which is a no go for them, and just say, okay, you're going to throw one out there that we don't like, Fine, we're going to throw one out there you don't like. Because they fear religious freedom more than they fear our aircraft carriers or our nuclear weapons. That's this is their Achilles heel and we should go right in. Same way Ronald Reagan did at the Soviet Union. He traveled America talking about the godless commies before he was president and citing the Jewish refused nics. And it undermined the regime, its authority, and it's all and its legitimacy. And that's what we need to do with the ccp.
Glenn Beck
How are the underground churches in China? Are they still growing? They were growing, but then they got cracked down on them hard. Are they still growing?
Sam Brownback
Nobody really knows. But over the last few years, most people have been citing the fastest growing Christian churches in the world have been the last couple years, last five years in, get this, China and Iran, where the persecution is the greatest, but then that's where the faith grows the most, is when it's under pressure and duress. I used to say if people actually understood Christianity, they wouldn't oppress it and suppress it, they would subsidize it. If you want to really kill Christianity, subsidize really grows best under pressure.
Glenn Beck
I will tell you, I've talked to people who have escaped China, who were in prison in China for their faith. And their faith is enormous. But one of them has told me, you know, what we're all praying for in China? All the Christians are praying. What they're praying that the United States is going to fall into really hard times. And I was like, why wait, why would you pray for that? And they're like, because you, you, you might remember who you are and you'll stand up and you'll start serving God because we need your help. I mean, that's, that's pretty amazing. Pretty amazing.
Sam Brownback
Yeah, it really does. I, the ones I've met and many of them have been in jail multiple times and they, they call it Chinese seminary. It's just their, their faith is so beautiful and it's purified and there's a joy and a peace about him that you look at, you go, okay, that's the real deal. I've seen it. You've been with Jesus. I can see it.
Glenn Beck
Sam, I'm in London this week. Last question for the last couple of minutes, but I'm in London and there is a real problem with freedom of speech here. And, you know, the keeper of the flame, the keeper, the protector of the faith, you know, doesn't seem to be the strongest, you know, keeper of the faith here. How concerned are you on freedom of speech and, and where this is going with Christians in the uk?
Sam Brownback
I'm, I'm really concerned. So much so I, and where I was headed in the US really before President Trump came in, I got debanked. The group I helped form, National Committee for Religious Freedom. I mean, how more American can you be than that? And we got debanked. But there was this effort in the west to suffocate faith and the principles, the natural law principles, that faith generally is around and from coming into society because they weren't seen as the current cultural norms. They were against what people wanted to do. And look, faith is always stood against things that are trending the wrong way or are evil in nature. And it's always been this voice against that. And people want to silent that, silence that voice by debanking, de platforming. And you see it more aggressively in Europe than we had, we had seen it in the United States. But I've been deeply concerned about that. That suffocation move is what I call it. It's not, they're not going to really throw you in jail. They are in some places, but most of it's just about taking the insurance away from crisis pregnancy centers so that they, their board of directors don't have any coverage. And so if people go, well, I don't know that I want to go on there for that. I'll be out there with you, I'll contribute, but I'm not going to lead if we, if I'm putting everything else on the line. So that's really the effort in the west and we've got to push back against and stand up against.
Glenn Beck
Sam, thank you so much. Thanks for all your work over the years and thank you for this new book, China's War on Faith by Sam Brownback. It is out now, wherever you get your books. In it he talks about the high tech, the digital authoritarianism that China is now pushing out over in 80 countries. He calls them sinister new tech technologies. Also the campaigns on physical torture and imprisonment of people on faith. These are all things that you need to know if you're, if you want to prepare for the world that we are entering in and you want to be well informed so nothing slipping by you. You see the enemy in front of us. It's not just China. This is all over the world. Start here. China's War on Faith by Sam Brownback. Thanks Sam. Appreciate it. Back in just a minute.
Sam Brownback
Thank you, Glenn.
Glenn Beck
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Sam Harris
The left has been successfully manipulated by Islamists and apologists for Islamists. In certain cases, this is a knowing alliance, and in certain cases, just frank manipulation. And people on the left are morally confused. You know, I don't think someone like Hassan Paikha, I think he knows exactly what sort of alliance he has. And I think that's true of Mamdani, too.
Winston Marshall
Do you think Mamdani is an Islamist?
Sam Harris
Certainly an apologist for Islamists? The fact that he can't quite figure out what's wrong with the phrase globalize the intifada. And the worst he'll say of it is that he doesn't use that language, nor does he encourage it, but he's not going to condemn it. He's a proud DSA member. They were out on October 8th supporting Hamas. There's just no way that should be possible. And there's no way that anyone who's got that level of callousness and confusion, confusion being charitable, should be running a major American city.
Sam Brownback
Right.
Sam Harris
Much less being the poster boy for the future of democratic politics. So there's something very sinister about the way Islamists have spread their ideology through the west and targeted liberals.
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Sam Brownback
Swipe the flame, pass it on. Crank the game.
Glenn Beck
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Winston Marshall
Well, yeah, technically I quit Glenn, but it was, you are right that I was on the wrong side of the woke mob. Right five years ago, right at this, at this time, time of the year. And welcome to Britain. Yeah, this.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, yeah.
Winston Marshall
Careful what we say here. I know you get arrested.
Glenn Beck
We're gonna. I'm gonna have him join me here in just a second. We're going to talk about some of the things, the crazy stuff that is going on here in London that is on the way. Also the King just spoke here and I think said some terrifying things. Quite honestly talking about, talking about you know, monetization the entire world while he's wearing stuff from the 1400s. Looked ridiculous. Talking about the modern world in a crown. But maybe that's just me. We'll talk to Winston here in just a second. First let me tell you about ourselves. Sponsor this half hour. It is Burna. Most self defense products fall into one or two categories. Either they're weak and they're not going to stop anybody or they're lethal. Which means the consequences of using them will change your life forever in a different way. Even if you. I mean unless you're in Texas or a great state like Florida, you fire a gun at somebody and you're tied up in courts for probably at least a year. Burn A launcher exists for this reason. It is is a less lethal self defense option that gives you a way to protect yourself and your family without having to carry a firearm. Now police are using it all over. Most dangerous situations don't call for the use of a firearm. It's legal in all 50 states. Doesn't require a permit already trusted by hundreds of law enforcement agencies and hundreds of thousands of Americans. And the goal is, you know, in a dangerous situation is not to win an action movie. It's to get home safe. Burn Burna offering now a hundred dollars off the Berna Le Gen 2 that is by R N A.com Berna Berna.com secures your. Secure yours now while supplies last at Burna.com it's always good to see you Glenn.
Winston Marshall
It's great to see you and thanks for having me on your great show.
Glenn Beck
Thank you. Thank you. So the King.
Winston Marshall
Well, I, you know, I have to warn you, I am a monarchist.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I know you are. I know you are. And up. I, I, you know, there's, there's a problem. There's still hope for you. There's still hope for you.
Winston Marshall
But you see, you Americans, I understand, I understand that sort of your sense of conservatism is, is actually built on rebellion and against the monarchy. But you've got to understand, for us, yeah, our liberties are protected by the monarchy.
Glenn Beck
Are they?
Winston Marshall
Yes.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, I saw what he was talking about. Yeah. It's been about 300 years since the
Winston Marshall
monarchy ever actually intervened to protect, but.
Glenn Beck
Right.
Winston Marshall
Nevertheless, our tradition is that balance of king. Technically, it's monarch aristocracy represented by the peers, although that's changed under Starmer. And then the Commons represented by the people. And we are governed by the people.
Glenn Beck
I've got news for you. None of that's working for you right now. None of that's working for you. I mean, well, you look how the people are voting Starmer gonna leave Starmer, it looks like.
Winston Marshall
I don't know how he's pulled this off, because a day ago I thought that was it, he's finished. I think he's going to last it. And part of the reason is because there is no talent in the Labour Party to replace him. The best option is Wes Streeting, frankly, you know, if he's going to suit that guy.
Glenn Beck
I listened to the BBC yesterday and they were talking about him as if, as if there's nothing to see here. This, you know, these elections, they don't mean anything. We've seen this before. And I'm like, what are you people talking about? The people, people are clear on this.
Winston Marshall
Yeah. Well, the BBC are completely soaked up in the same ideology as the uniparty, as the Labour Party, and frankly, as the Conservative Party has been for the last 15 years. Remember, with Keir Starmer, although he won with something like 35% of the vote, he actually had 20% of the electorate. So four out of five people in Britain who could vote two years ago, the 20, 20, 24 election, did not vote for Keir Starmer. Think about that. Even Kamala Harris had something like 48. Right. But we are living in what America would be if Kamala had won.
Glenn Beck
And we are. And, and so is Canada, and so is much of Europe. I mean, I think. And, you know, I think we change everything once. All of us who are Fighting for personal liberties and common sense. I think once we all understand. Wait a minute, this isn't about Keir Sommer. This is not about Donald Trump. This isn't about, you know, any of the politics that every country is making about. They're making it about local politics. The elites are saying it's these people that are the problem. No, no, no. This is the people against an elitist government all over the Western world that has decided exactly how we're all going to live. And when the people in Germany understand and the people in England understand, the Germans are getting the same thing, we're getting the same thing, then all of a sudden we start to have real allies. Because then you have the population of every country going, wait a minute, we're in this together.
Winston Marshall
Yes, you're absolutely right. We're seeing the revolt of the people against the post war elite. You spelled it out beautifully in your book, actually, about the wef.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Winston Marshall
And it's precisely that ideology that has been the big fight now in America, of course, with Trump, many of those battles are being won. But in Europe here, it's still, it's not all to play for, because I think the people are going to win eventually. But it's the last gasps of that elite, which is why actually Starmer is trying to pivot and create new enemies. So your colleagues have been banned from coming to Britain.
Glenn Beck
You slip from. I don't know how I slip through.
Winston Marshall
Yeah, it's kind of remarkable. It's probably because you're a much bigger threat, because if they went for you, that would actually have political ramifications in the us I suspect. That's. That's. That's right. But there's two other Americans who've been banned. A Belgian has been a politician, Polish member of the European Parliament. What, what Starmer's tried to do, and this is how he's saving himself here, is he's trying to create bogeymen. He's saying, okay, Tommy Robinson. And this march that's happening, the far right, I'm not the enemy.
Glenn Beck
They are.
Winston Marshall
They're the enemy. And if we can say, we can focus the attention on here, it's the same reason why he banned Kanye west from coming over for anti Semitism whilst not actually doing anything about anti Semitism, not actually calling out the problem, which is Islam. That's where it's coming from. And by the way, under Starmer, it's now the worst anti Semitism we've had in since Jews were allowed back into the country by Oliver Cromwell in the 1650s. So we're talking 370 years. Only once in that period has a Jew been killed for being a Jew. That was in the 1960s by some on the far right. We've had two Jews killed at the end of last year by a man whose first name was Jihad. And in the last month, we've had various synagogues firebombed. We had two Jews stabbed in the neck in London. This is happening, and it's coming from a very specific place. What? Starmer can't. But he can't possibly say that because he needs that Muslim voter base. So he's pivoting away. He's saying people like Tommy Robinson, they're the real people like these trying to come into Europe. They're the real villains here. And that's how we need to.
Glenn Beck
Are they that stupid, though? I mean, because you. You know how the left and the Islamist were the ones behind the revolution in Iran. And you know what happened to anybody who wasn't an IS Islamist. All of the Marxists, they were all killed or tortured or, you know, disappeared. It's not going to work out. Well, the King keeps. Keeps playing footsie with these people. And I'm like, they're not gonna. They're not gonna embrace you.
Winston Marshall
Do you think the King's playing footsie with them?
Glenn Beck
King Chuck?
Winston Marshall
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Winston Marshall
Okay. I've got to address this, actually. Right. Because there's a popular rumor online that the King is a Muslim, actually. And.
Glenn Beck
No, I don't believe that.
Winston Marshall
You don't believe that? No. But people think he's. He's kowtowing to them. Now, one thing to remember about the King is, firstly, he is a Christian, but secondly, is he not a Christian?
Glenn Beck
I'm sure he is.
Winston Marshall
Okay, well, he's practicing.
Glenn Beck
I don't know.
Winston Marshall
He's the sovereign, the head of state of several countries around the world, and some of those countries are Muslim majority countries. So he is the sovereign of large populations of Muslims around the world. So he's in this very difficult position where he's head of the English Christian Church.
Glenn Beck
I've never had a guest defend the King.
Stu (Political Commentator)
You're first.
Glenn Beck
It's great to hear it. It's great to hear it. It's refreshing, kind of. Well, who says I'm not open to hear other opinions?
Winston Marshall
There you go. Oh, dear. I hate it when I come off woke on one of these shows because I'm not woke. This always happens when I speak to Americans. Conservative.
Stu (Political Commentator)
No.
Winston Marshall
Now I really do not. Like what Starmer. Sorry, what the. His Majesty has said about some of this environment Green ideology staff. And I don't like the direction he's going there. I don't like, like it when these guys get in this domain of people get involved in politics. I think that is for the people and for the Commons. But nevertheless, he's in a difficult position where he's got to be the representative not just of England and of Great Britain, but also the Commonwealth and other realms around.
Glenn Beck
Okay.
Winston Marshall
The world, and they're not Christians. So he's. He's got to get that. That's right. And that's a tricky one.
Glenn Beck
He's the head of the Church of England. England, though.
Winston Marshall
That's correct. But it's a difficult balancing act.
Glenn Beck
Right, I can see your point on that. Let's talk about his digital id.
Winston Marshall
Yeah, I'm very displeased about this. Yeah, this is being now, just to be clear. So what he's reading out is being given to him by number 10, being given to him by the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer. So he doesn't really have a say. He could if he wanted to object to things that are going on. The last time that happened, I think, I think was literally over 300 years ago. So they don't object. The digital ID aspect. This is something I've been covering a lot of my show. It. It is a system that Tony Blair tried to bring in when he was Prime Minister back in the late 90s and they've also incorporated into tax now. So they. I, as a. I've run several businesses. I now have to have to sign up to this stuff. It's very difficult for me to resist and continue running my business.
Glenn Beck
That's the way they like it.
Winston Marshall
Exactly. And the, the problem, of course, is that you can see this playing out in China is that you will end up with a social credit score system. If you think that this government are stopping people coming in to the country, what could they possibly do next? Not only that, they all think that Nigel Farage is a fascist. He's not a fascist, by the way. He's. He's a pretty traditional conservative, as far as I can tell, who's gone against the elites. As, as this started this conversation. He's. He has been the person in British politics who has stood against the globalized liberal elite.
Glenn Beck
It's funny because in America people look at Nigel Farage and say, I think, did he sell out? He's starting to get a little weak on.
Winston Marshall
Yeah, I, I think that. So this is a very online thing and it's it's quite curious actually if you think about the council elections that we've just had around the country where reform, his party, formerly called the Brexit Party, just completely dominated. Even the Green Party who didn't perform as well. And the Green Party are far left Leninist, unapologetic communist group with an Islamo faction to them. Even they didn't do as well as projected. But Nigel's Reform Party did much better. And I think that possibly because this is online, people have forgotten how he's endeared himself to so much of the public and why he's so popular here on the ground. And partly that's because he's made tremendous self sacrifice. People say sold out. This is a guy in the early 90s who left the Conservative Party because they sold out and did and signed up for the eu. That was with the Maastricht treaty. And that's where even the Tories became the establishment. They became the globalist elite in that sense. They signed up to that ideology, rather would be a more accurate way of saying he said, you know what?
Stu (Political Commentator)
No.
Winston Marshall
And that's by the way, at the detriment of his own career. So he spent his whole life in his professional life outside of that bubble. He then has been calling out illegal immigration at tremendous self cost. And by that I mean he's been a bogeyman in the same way that the media, they will do pictures of Trump with like a Hitler mustache and they say Hitler. They've been doing that to Nigel for decades. It's been a huge personal cost and social cost. And yet he was right. He was right to say that we've been invaded and that masses of people coming in at the detriment of the country and there are a few other characters who have been, who have been doing it. Seeing as you're speaking at tomorrow Robertson's March, it's worth noting that he has been brilliant calling out the grooming gangs for decades before other people. Now Nigel is getting this flak and it's very strange for me to see this because he is someone who actually has really got the credentials against the elite in a way that few people do.
Glenn Beck
I have to tell you, I like him and I like Tommy, but I'm not from England, so I don't, I don't know, you know, I follow it, you know, passing and I know I trust my gut and I'm pretty, you know, pretty good on my gut. But I don't know, I mean, I like Nigel. I don't see anybody else I mean, you, to be able to fight this, you have to, you're going to be called Hitler always to fight this. You have to be outspoken, you have to be tough and you have to be tough skinned. I mean, Donald Trump is the, I think he's the only one that could have lasted did in America. He's the only one that could have put up with all of this and still fought back and won.
Winston Marshall
Yeah, I think America needed a bull like him, someone that could actually would thrive off the attacks and, and because no other individual, because if you think of every single attack from the beginning, Russia hoax, all of this all the way through when he was out, they were trying to get him in. In the four year period. They'd just been relentlessly. I just don't know enough human being who could have.
Glenn Beck
I have to tell you, I've told. Excuse the audience, excuse me for telling the story again, but a Brit needs to hear this. I talked to the President privately and I said what, what was going through your mind when you were laying on the ground and Butler and Secret Service were on top of you and you're bleeding.
Winston Marshall
Three times they've tried to kill him.
Glenn Beck
Right? Okay. He's on the ground, he's bleeding. He knows he's been shot. He can hear the other gunshots. He knows what's, it's chaos around him. They're going to try to kill him. Do you know what he told me? I said, what is, what do you, what were you thinking at the time? Get up, get up. You're not afraid of these people. You want to be the President of the United States? Represent the United States. We're not afraid. Holy cow. Yeah. And you can't fake that. At that moment you, that's why he stood up and fight.
Winston Marshall
Yes.
Glenn Beck
Representing the United States. We are not going to bow down
Winston Marshall
to this kind of absolutely true leadership and that, that every nation needs that kind of thing, particularly the west needs it. And I'm very grateful. The American has showed leadership where European leaders and elites have really failed and they're actually pivoting away. I know you've been talking about China. They're going the wrong direction.
Glenn Beck
I think if Trump loses in 28, well, Trump's not going to run. But if we don't have somebody like Trump and if we lose Congress and the Senate and we lose this vision that he's working on, I think we, we turn right back to where you are today. We turn on a dime.
Winston Marshall
There's going to be a struggle. Now, this is not easy. This is going to be a fight really for the rest of our lives. I don't think that the elites are going to go out with a lot outlast breath.
Glenn Beck
He told me at one point I need 12 years. Not me, he said, but to fix this, he said I need my four years and we have to have two people or two terms following me that are on the same path. He said, I think we can kill it and 12 years, but we can't in poor.
Winston Marshall
Well, Rubio's been extremely promising.
Glenn Beck
He's amazing.
Winston Marshall
I'm incredibly impressed by the guy and I hope he's your future guy. If I can pull up one thing we've just skirted past.
Glenn Beck
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Winston Marshall
Hi, Glenn, right? Yeah, I just wanted to pick up on, on one thing you said which is that you said that people are worried that Nigel is selling out.
Glenn Beck
And I've just heard that from people.
Winston Marshall
Yeah. Okay, so what I think has happened is that people are not so happy that there have been several Conservative party members, Tories who have joined reform and most notably it's Suella Braverman who by the way, when she was in the Conservative party was calling out the problems of multiculturalism and the development University delusion at tremendous cost. To herself. There's others like Robert Jenrick, who maybe had been early party of the problem, although he'd been converted away from that along the way. The problem that the British right now has is you have two major parties, reform, obviously way ahead in the polls. The conservative establishment, who are still at something like 15%, maybe 20%. And then you have the insurgent Restoration Party, who are predominantly online, but represent, even if they only represent 4 or 5%, that is a significant threat to even the whole right winning. And they could let in a left wing coalition of some sort. It's yet to be seen. But the problem is that to defeat the establishment, you need people who understand the establishment. If reform were to reject anyone involved with any experience in politics, then they were to get to power. They wouldn't know as much as they would if they have these two or three key individuals who can be precise and say no. That's the problem. That's the problem. There's the problem. Here's a problem. This is how we get it.
Glenn Beck
And as long as you're doing that strategically and knowingly, you know who you're. I mean, Donald Trump put people in who were saying those kinds of things in the first. First term.
Winston Marshall
Yes.
Glenn Beck
And they stabbed him in the back.
Winston Marshall
Correct.
Glenn Beck
The second term, he. And I would imagine Nigel is smart enough to know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are.
Winston Marshall
Yes.
Glenn Beck
Because then Trump came back with a real team that was really on the same page and knew where all the bodies were buried. And look at the difference.
Winston Marshall
Well, look at Marco Rubio. We've been flattering him. This guy represented the neocon yesteryear.
Glenn Beck
I know.
Winston Marshall
And now he's become kind of of the hero of. Of the moment.
Glenn Beck
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Glenn Beck
Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. We're talking to Winston Marshall who has his own podcast, it's great from, from England. We're talking about the things that are going on in England and how it's happening all over the western world and it is coming to America and it's coming with a vengeance. If we don't retain the White House in 28, we're, we're in real deep, deep trouble. I want to ask you, I'm here for Tommy Robinson's march and Keir Starmer said Tommy Robinson's large scale march on Saturday is quote, unquote, quote designed to confront and intimidate the diverse city of London.
Winston Marshall
Yes.
Glenn Beck
What does he mean by that?
Winston Marshall
This is a classic progressive catchphrase or a word used to sort of virtue signaling diversity because for them diversity is the greatest strength. Yeah, I mean actually I happen to believe unity is the greatest strength. And, and the problem they've got is that since the end of the war we've had this mass migration. Before the war, we'd been a pretty homogenous society since King Alfred, basically with a couple of periods, maybe the Normans, the Huguenots, a few thousand Huguenots came over and we had our problems with the Scandinavians and I referred to the Vikings. Again, that's a thousand years ago.
Glenn Beck
But I love the this country. I love, you know, we had a problem with the Vikings, but that's a different story. Okay, whatever. We don't forget, you see.
Winston Marshall
Oh, I know we have long memories but since the end of the war and particularly since Tony Blair, we've had mass migration. Migration on a scale that puts the two millennia before too embarrassing at the moment. Millions of foreign born in fact, which isn't a problem.
Glenn Beck
If they wanted to be English, if they wanted to be a part of the kingdom.
Winston Marshall
Even if they wanted to be English, it's not. It's totally clear that on the scale that it's happened, they could be. So when it started happening in the 40s, 50s. Right. Because it really starts in 1947 with Windrush from the Caribbean and. But then we also have Eastern European and then slowly South Asian immigration. But it happened a scale that individual families would end up on a street with a whole English or British street, and they would be. They'd have to, if they wanted to live, integrate. Now, when you have it where it's gross numbers are over a million, I mean, the peak under rishi sunag is 1.2, 1.3 million. They're coming in. They don't need to learn the language because they just. The whole village is.
Glenn Beck
But here's the problem. We, because we survived that we had, you know, Irish coming in, and they lived in an Irish community. And they, we had the Italians, they lived in their Italian community. The difference was my, my wife's grandfather, his name was Christopher Columbus. His brother was called America. His name, her first name. Because they were first here. They were the first born in America. Okay. They wanted to be American so they could live in that community, but they still had pride and love of country where. I'm not so sure that's happening.
Winston Marshall
Well, let's use the American example, seeing as you brought it up. You will remember that at the turn of the 20th century.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Winston Marshall
There was actually a lot of problems, particularly with Italians, Irish, Jews, because that's where those big things coming in. And what happened, what the Americans did was. I forget what year in the 20s it was, but up until the 60s, net zero. Immigration.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Winston Marshall
They blocked all immigration, which meant. And that's. By the way, that's 40 years. That's two or three generations.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Winston Marshall
They said for that period of time, normal migration, which allowed that huge end of the 19th century to become American, to become American, to integrate, it takes two or three generations.
Glenn Beck
I agree, I agree.
Winston Marshall
And that's what we need to happen now. So there's big conversations about deportations and illegals should absolutely be deported. But we've had this mass migration. We need a complete net zero. A stop, maybe even net negative.
Glenn Beck
Yes.
Winston Marshall
To allow those who are here and
Glenn Beck
to find those who want Sharia law. I mean, Sharia law is poison. It is poison.
Winston Marshall
Yes. So the problem with Sharia law is that we've got something like 85, at least 85 Sharia courts. And we've known this for over 10 years now, probably many more. Maybe double. Maybe three or four times more, considering the Muslim population. Now, the woke or the progressives will come back and say, well, there are Jewish courts. Here's the difference. The Jewish courts are subject to the arbitration. Is it the Arbitration act? It's the 1996 Arbitration Act. I believe that's right. Which means that they have to stick with legal English Civil War.
Glenn Beck
Correct.
Winston Marshall
That is not that. Now, there are some Muslim courts that do that, and then there's a whole bunch of informal ones that don't. Likely in the hundreds. Many hundreds, possibly. And that means that they have de facto their own legal system. Now, why this is important, actually, seeing as I brought up King Alfred, I'll bring him up again.
Glenn Beck
The way pretend I know who he is. Go ahead.
Winston Marshall
Well, the King Alfred's very. You know who King Alfred is.
Glenn Beck
Sure.
Winston Marshall
He's very important for the Americans because the American project is an English project.
Stu (Political Commentator)
My humble opinion.
Sam Brownback
It is.
Glenn Beck
It is, but we're coming. No, it is.
Winston Marshall
And that. That starts with King Alfred. And the way he unites everyone on this island is he does it with four things. He gives us a common language. He says English is the language because back then we had many, many languages, including Latin, Celt, and all these other ones. He said, you've got a common history. And he translated some key pieces of work so that everyone had access to it. And he said that you have a common law. And that's another really key aspect to it. There was one law for the whole land. That law would, you know, Americans love Talking about Magna Carta, 1215. Actually, it starts with King Alfred and his Don Bok. His Don Bok. He publishes the first law for all Englishmen. And that is the legal beginning of what would become the American legal system. And it actually starts with the Ten Commandments. And this is another interesting part, because a lot of people who now on the. I guess maybe hard right, say it's not a Judeo Christian country, it's a Christian country. I'm sorry. It starts with the Ten Commandments, the Mosaic Law.
Glenn Beck
Yep.
Winston Marshall
And so that's a very key part of it. Even if the term Judeo Christian is a modern term, the fact that, yep, the Judeo system starts with the Old Testament. It literally starts the Old Testament. And also, of course, Jesus was Jew. Let's not digress too much or so. But the point of King Alfred is that he united this people. It was a project. It was not then yet an ethnos. He created an ethnos by having these binding factors and this is another thing people say about America. It's just an idea. No, it's not just an idea. It's a people, it's a history. And it doesn't mean that other people can't come into that, but they have to take on that history as if it's their own. And Alfred had that, that genius and he created that. And by now with millions of foreign born who don't speak the same language, don't have the same, don't accept English history. In fact they're anti English history. They say it's colonialists, it's, it's imperialist and it must be destroyed and we must take apart the monarchy. Actually, some of our English cousins across the pond say that as well, I
Glenn Beck
don't know who you're talking about, but
Winston Marshall
that those were pioneer language, language, religion, law, those were binding things that made our nation and all of that has been unbound. Which is the problem you've got for someone like Keir Starmer, our Prime Minister, is he doesn't have an answer about how to bind all of these people
Glenn Beck
because the left doesn't. They don't want to bind.
Winston Marshall
Exactly. History is an inconvenience to them. They can't be proud of it. I'm actually incredibly proud of it and should be. You might notice this, being an American coming to Britain, how unpatriotic people are or at least maybe in London. You see on the surf now, in London now is a minor, I mean, minority white British. So when I was a kid I was told I was part of the, you know, the oppressor majority. But now we are literally the oppressor minority somehow or we're not oppressors, but you know what I'm saying. So the problem for the progressives is they can't have this unity, this, this idea that we're bound and that we have this proud legacy. Instead they have to deal with the fact that they have all these newcomers and they are part of the same legacy. And for them to admit that, they'd have to admit that their whole worldview doesn't function. And this has also been a problem since the end of the war. One of the reasons we have our free speech problems here in the country. We never had free speech really in Britain, but it became a problem really because after migration takes up, you just then have this clash of cultures with the newcomers and the, and the British, the English, the indigenous, let's say, and they have this clash, which is not a good thing, but it's kind of shouldn't be unexpected. Give you have different cultures coming and competing with each other. And consecutive governments including conservative government always tried to deal with this with new speech laws. Right. We've got the Race Relations act, we've got no more this, no more that. You can't say this, you can't say that. Which is just completely out of control. So much so that only until this year I think we had non crime hate incidents where if you were said something that someone thought might have been offensive to someone else that would be reported to the police and would stop you from working in a school if you wanted to. So, so all of this is sort of the post war problem because of the victory of progressivism after the war. And in America you learn a different lesson. You learned that America defeated fascism even though we defeated fascism too for some reason. We learned this lesson that nationalism was bad and this is embarrassment about being English. That that will be overcome because actually that's a, that's a relatively new concept and actually we're a proud ancient people.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Winston Marshall
And once we get that history back, I think that that's, that's the solution. But start. If I can just shock some of your American viewers into Keir Starmer and just how dreadful he's been because they'd have heard of some shocks. But I know that seeing as it's a conservative station.
Glenn Beck
Yeah, go ahead.
Winston Marshall
And I don't mean that as a slight. Under Starmer now, abortion is no longer illegal up to birth. I don't know if there's some places in the States where that's the case.
Glenn Beck
No, you can't do that. There's a few states, there's a couple
Winston Marshall
states now it's not legal for a doctor to give an abortion for a woman a second. I think it's after 24 weeks, which is the latest in Europe already. But if a woman was to administer it to herself, she would no longer be punished by the law, which of course means that it will, it will increase. So that's one of the more shocking things. But under him we've had 72000 illegal immigrants from the channel crossing alone, predominantly men military age, men who are doing, I mean since you, since you've been here, we hear stories of teenagers being raped and abused. Last year we had Wayne, his name was Wayne Broadhurst in West London killed by an Afghan asylum seeker. The terrible atrocities are being carried out by these people. It must stop at all costs. Starmer has deported 4% of the 72,000. Last week was the 200,000 mark since 2018 of illegal Russia. This is just, just from the Channel crossing, by the way. There's a lot more coming through the airport to overstay their welcomes. This is a massive problem. I say, I said earlier that now the white British are an ethnic minority in London. It's also the case for Birmingham and Manchester. But we have 1.5 million foreign born people in this country on welfare. So what we need and what Nigel should do, which I think he'll be the next prime minister and frankly, I hope so. I really, I do too. I admire him greatly. We need to deport all the illegals of which I think there's at least 1.2 million. And we need to stop welfare for foreign nationals. We need to prioritize the British people. If that happens, as we've seen in America, a lot of others will self deport and it's not gonna be fun, it's not gonna be pretty. But it cannot be that in our generation. The great project started by King Alfred the great is finished. And everything, all power, all hands on deck, frankly. And that's one thing I want to see, the unity. You know, someone like Tommy Robinson and Nigel, they won't be seen in the same room, but they are both. They both are, unlike Keir Starmer, patriots, and they love the country. And even if they're not going to fight side by side, it seems like I could name a hundred others. All the British patriots need to recognize that we love this country and we're all fighting for the same thing.
Glenn Beck
I tell you, that's why I'm here. I mean, I don't know, I don't want to pick sides. This is your fight, you know what I mean? I'm here just to say I love England, I love Great Britain. You know, I don't. I don't know everything there is about it. I'm not, you know, I'm just. I'm a traveler who has watched it from far. And I'm your cousin and you can't let this go. You just can't let this go. And everybody, whether you agree on everything or not, if you can agree on a few things, we should all kind of stand together because the whole western world is facing this right now and we got to stand together.
Winston Marshall
Well, as long as America stands, at least, you know, I'm hopeful about that. That at least.
Stu (Political Commentator)
Yeah.
Glenn Beck
Thank you so much. We'll talk again.
Winston Marshall
Thanks, Claire.
Glenn Beck
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Sidekick/Co-host
I mean, it was cute. I'm sure he doesn't want to be like you and get kicked out for, you know, being a rabble rouser.
Glenn Beck
Well, let's just lock him up in the tower. I don't know what they do to, you know, you know, to people here. You know, you speak out against the king, but more people should do it because, well, I mean, we broke away. I mean, that was the right answer. I think that was the right answer.
Sidekick/Co-host
I think they don't get free health care anymore.
Glenn Beck
What?
Sidekick/Co-host
I think that's what happens. That's the punishment.
Glenn Beck
Oh, you don't get free health care. I got news for you, sweetheart. They don't get free health care now.
Melissa Chen
Fair.
Glenn Beck
But anyway, tomorrow we have the former prime minister on. Do we not I believe we do
Sidekick/Co-host
have one of the prime ministers.
Glenn Beck
One of the prime minister.
Sidekick/Co-host
Yes. We have Liz Truss.
Glenn Beck
Yeah.
Sidekick/Co-host
Tomorrow. And perhaps Hot Eva, who was banned.
Glenn Beck
Is she coming?
Sidekick/Co-host
Shut up.
Glenn Beck
She's from where? She.
Sidekick/Co-host
She's from the Netherlands.
Glenn Beck
The Netherlands.
Sidekick/Co-host
Not been allowed to come in for Tommy Robinson's rally.
Glenn Beck
So we're going to let her say it on the air here. That'll all be on tomorrow's show. You don't want to miss it.
This episode of The Glenn Beck Program, hosted from London, focuses on three main themes:
A wide-ranging discussion unfolds with regular commentator Stu, China analyst Melissa Chen, former Ambassador Sam Brownback, and British podcast host Winston Marshall. The tone is passionate, candid, and sometimes sardonic, with intense concern about Western decline, growing authoritarianism, and the weakening of traditional institutions.
Redistricting Reversals Favor GOP
Stu explains how Democrat attempts to expand "majority-minority districts" (drawing voting districts largely by race) backfired after Supreme Court decisions mandated race-neutral approaches. Result: several districts now favor Republicans.
"It’s not supposed to be done by skin color. It’s supposed to be the exact opposite of that."
– Stu, [06:51]
Shifting Sentiment in Swing States
Virginia's court blocked Democrat efforts to redraw maps post-early voting. Republicans poised to gain more seats there.
California’s Surprising GOP Surge
In LA and California, Republican candidates like Spencer Pratt and Steve Hilton are polling stronger than expected.
"Sometimes a really positive thing can potentially wind up being a negative ... The last debate, he did so well, you wonder if the left is going to now unite around Karen Bass, who is a catastrophe as a mayor."
– Stu, [12:41]
Discussing National Polls (Rubio vs. Vance vs. DeSantis)
Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance are emerging as heavyweights for the Republican future, with Rubio highlighted as the "old-timey" candidate representing stability and patriotism.
"He’s also a guy who really loves America and thinks that there’s something good here. There’s something that almost feels old timey to it...I for one love it."
– Stu, [21:40]
[25:00]–[64:09]
Glenn voices anxiety about Trump’s reception in China:
"He just got off the airplane ... quite a state welcome ... he loves this. And it makes me nervous because he does love this. When people treat him really well, he is more inclined to treat them well."
– Glenn Beck, [25:00]
[46:35]–[64:09]
China's Leverage and US Vulnerabilities:
China controls 70% of the world’s critical minerals and 90% of the refining capacity, crucial for military technology and green tech.
Trump’s team is pressing China on trade, minerals, and Iranian oil imports.
"Every F-35, every Aegis radar, every tank ... those elements are refined and extracted by the Chinese."
– Melissa Chen, [51:06]
Rubio’s Symbolic Role:
Marco Rubio, sanctioned by China for supporting Hong Kong, had his Chinese name altered by authorities just so they could host him and "save face."
"It’s a culture which cannot admit any political errors ... so they just change the character of Luo."
– Melissa, [50:36]
U.S. Choke Point Strategy
Trump's global moves around critical minerals have given America newfound leverage.
"If this holds and we can solidify everything in 10 years, America is a different place ... This is the turning point."
– Glenn Beck, [55:10]
Internal Chinese Threat
Chinese infiltration is breathtaking: land buys near military bases, political co-opting, birthright citizenship exploitation, and industrial-scale surrogacy arrangements.
"Scope and depth of this infiltration is breathtaking. It’s in every domain ... they exploit the gap between local and federal systems."
– Melissa Chen, [60:48]
AI Arms Race
[68:48]–[83:38]
China wages a comprehensive assault on all faiths: Christians, Buddhists, Falun Gong, Uyghurs.
Forced organ harvesting, mass imprisonment, “Genocide” of several groups (Falun Gong, Uyghurs, Tibetans) underway.
"They take your blood type ... then at their desired time, they will kill you and harvest the organs. ... The Chinese Communist Party has killed more of their own people than any other regime in the history of mankind."
– Sam Brownback, [71:14] & [72:50]
Brownback urges US to leverage China’s deep fear of religious freedom—"This is their Achilles’ heel," paralleling Reagan’s approach to the Soviet Union.
[85:24]–[122:09]
Marshall and Beck argue Britain is "unbinding" as a nation: London, Birmingham, and Manchester are now "minority-white."
Mass migration and proliferation of Sharia courts (beyond official regulation) have undermined common language, law, and culture.
Progressives, they contend, are not equipped to foster unity.
"Diversity is the greatest strength. I happen to believe unity is the greatest strength."
– Winston Marshall, [108:37]
“This isn’t about Keir Starmer. This isn’t about Donald Trump. This is the people against an elitist government all over the Western world.”
– Glenn Beck, [90:56]
“What exactly can we infiltrate and co-opt to advance China’s strategic goals against us?”
– Melissa Chen, [63:18]
“There is a spiritual darkness... this is a spiritual battle on so many fronts.”
– Glenn Beck, [69:03]
“It cannot be that in our generation. The great project started by King Alfred the great is finished. All power, all hands on deck, frankly.”
– Winston Marshall, [119:56]
"I'm just not mature enough and I do not have the vocabulary to say anything else. But you're a giant wiener."
– Glenn Beck, [31:12]
"China has cards in the trade war... we need to really, like, ask ourselves how the hell we ended up in this situation."
– [51:06]
"This is an evil regime, and they have killed more people ... than any other regime in the history of mankind."
– [72:50]
“Once we get that history back, I think that’s the solution.”
– [118:22]
This Glenn Beck episode acts as a warning flare for both Americans and Brits. Through blistering critique, historical reflection, and the lens of current events (from Trump’s China trip to turmoil in British politics), the episode draws a picture of the West at a crossroads: Will it recover its core values—sovereignty, faith, and a sense of national unity—or succumb to internal and external threats?
Recommended for listeners concerned about the intersection of global affairs, rising authoritarianism, and the future of Western civilization.