Podcast Summary: The Globalist (Monocle)
Episode: Ukraine’s energy companies fighting to keep heat and electricity running
Date: November 11, 2025
Host: Georgina Godwin
Main Guests:
- Lily Bivins (Kyiv Independent, Business Editor, Kyiv)
- Ada Wordsworth (Writer, Editor, Co-founder of charity Harp)
- William Yang (Senior Northeast Asia Analyst, International Crisis Group)
- Chris Power (Booker Prize Judge)
- Antony Squazen (Bloomberg, Johannesburg)
- Inzamin Rashid (Monocle, Gulf Correspondent)
- Keith Penton (Head of Jewels, Christie’s London)
Episode Overview
The episode’s primary focus is the relentless challenge Ukraine faces to keep heat and electricity running as Russia intensifies attacks on its power infrastructure ahead of another punishing winter. The discussion explores the technical, humanitarian, and political complexities of the crisis, the resilience of Ukrainian civilians, the response of energy companies, and the wider geopolitical and European implications. The episode also delves into major global headlines, U.S.-China trade developments, the outcome of the Booker Prize, South African city reforms, Gulf region urban planning, and Christie’s upcoming jewelry auction.
Ukraine’s Power Crisis: Keeping the Lights (and Heat) On
[03:00–12:00]
Impact of Targeted Attacks
- Intensity of Attacks
- Ada Wordsworth describes (04:11) this winter as “significantly more intense” than previous years, with power outages lasting up to 12 hours daily:
"My colleagues in Kyiv are living with up to 12 hours without electricity, which makes it obviously quite impossible to sustain any kind of real day to day life..."
- Ada Wordsworth describes (04:11) this winter as “significantly more intense” than previous years, with power outages lasting up to 12 hours daily:
- Fragile Infrastructure
- Lily Bivins notes (04:49) that while specifics on damage aren’t public, the grid is “really fragile,” and energy companies are constantly racing to repair substations and power plants to prevent total collapse:
"...for the time being, they're kind of able to do some patchwork repairs here and there to prevent the overall collapse of the entire system. But it's really a fragile situation."
- Lily Bivins notes (04:49) that while specifics on damage aren’t public, the grid is “really fragile,” and energy companies are constantly racing to repair substations and power plants to prevent total collapse:
Coping Mechanisms and Resilience
- Hospitals and Clinics
- Ada Wordsworth (05:56) highlights reliance on backup generators and batteries. These are not meant for extended use, placing clinics and hospitals in a precarious position:
"You're relying on systems which aren't necessarily meant to be functioning for this long, which puts everything into a very precarious situation."
- Ada Wordsworth (05:56) highlights reliance on backup generators and batteries. These are not meant for extended use, placing clinics and hospitals in a precarious position:
- Energy Workarounds
- People are increasingly purchasing generators and portable power stations, causing prices to spike (11:22):
"The prices for portable power stations in Ukraine are going up massively because there is just this huge demand for them at this point."
- Some Ukrainians are considering spending the winter abroad if circumstances worsen:
"I have friends and colleagues who are planning to potentially spend more time in Europe this winter before coming back to Ukraine. But that's obviously not an option which is available to everyone." (11:41)
- People are increasingly purchasing generators and portable power stations, causing prices to spike (11:22):
Humanitarian Fallout
- Fewer Aid Resources
- Ada Wordsworth explains (08:12) a drop-off in charity support, both local (diverted to the army, loss of volunteers) and international (cuts to USAID), leaving “a lot of families… just left in the cold.”
- Societal Strain
- Loss of power erodes daily life and morale, compounding an already grim winter outlook.
Russian Military Strategy & European Risk
- Why Target Energy?
- Lily Bivins (06:34) underscores the attacks as classic warfare designed to cripple military capabilities and sap civilian morale:
"It's meant to harm people's morale… to make life and governing as difficult as possible."
- Lily Bivins (06:34) underscores the attacks as classic warfare designed to cripple military capabilities and sap civilian morale:
- European and Global Ramifications
- The risk is not limited to Ukraine. Bivins (06:34) warns of refugee flights and the precedent set for broader Russian aggression:
"If there's a humanitarian crisis in Ukraine… there will be a wave of new Ukrainian refugees into Europe… it's just, again, a kind of sign of what Russia is capable of doing."
- The risk is not limited to Ukraine. Bivins (06:34) warns of refugee flights and the precedent set for broader Russian aggression:
Political Tensions Over Blame
- Scapegoating Energy Officials
- Bivins (09:19) outlines President Zelensky’s move to blame former state grid operator Volodymyr Kudrytsky for insufficient grid fortification, a tactic seen as damaging to Ukraine’s reputation abroad:
"…one of Zelensky's and his team's response to managing this crisis is to look for that scapegoat so that the public can maybe, you know, pin the blame on that person, doesn't blame him..."
- This action unnerves European partners, given Kudrytsky’s respected role in EBRD negotiations.
- Bivins (09:19) outlines President Zelensky’s move to blame former state grid operator Volodymyr Kudrytsky for insufficient grid fortification, a tactic seen as damaging to Ukraine’s reputation abroad:
Headlines and Global Developments
[02:16–03:00, 12:00–18:00]
U.S.-China Trade Truce – A Tactical Pause
[12:00–20:08]
- Recent Deal and Immediate Shifts
- William Yang (13:24) details both sides honoring the agreement: China suspends special port fees and eases rare earth export controls; U.S. removes some tariffs.
- Election-Year Calculus
- Trump, facing pressure from suffering U.S. farmers, walks back tariffs for political necessity (14:56).
- Fragile and Temporary Nature
- Yang (16:03):
"We should definitely view this only as a tactical pause..."
- Underlying structural issues persist; either side could resume tariffs if they perceive bad faith.
- Yang (16:03):
- Asia’s Broader Reaction
- Asian economies are seeking to diversify supply chains, wary of over-reliance on either superpower (17:41).
- AI and Semiconductors as Next Battleground
- The next flashpoint will be advanced chips and AI sector competition, subject to potential new export controls (18:58):
"That is likely going to be, I think, the frontier that we will see continuous intense competition..."
- The next flashpoint will be advanced chips and AI sector competition, subject to potential new export controls (18:58):
Other Major Headlines
- U.S. Senate passes deal potentially ending historic government shutdown; air traffic badly hit ([03:00], [21:10])
- Japan’s PM holds line on possible military defense of Taiwan, drawing Chinese rebuke ([03:00], [29:40])
- Nicolas Sarkozy released from jail pending appeal ([03:00], [29:40])
The 2025 Booker Prize Winner: “Flesh” by David Soloy
[20:15–36:09]
- How the Prize Was Decided
- Chris Power (31:43):
"We were [unanimous], but I think what's really interesting is that it was a long final meeting… because we really loved the shortlist."
- Judge panel included Hollywood A-lister Sarah Jessica Parker, who was fully engaged as a reader.
- Chris Power (31:43):
- Why “Flesh” Stood Out
- Power (34:04) describes the book as a powerful, surprising journey following Istvan, a Hungarian protagonist across decades:
"...brilliantly cuts between [decades]...and Ishvan's character really emerges almost through negative space...you come away from the book absolutely knowing who this person is..."
- The novel is recognized for daringly pared-back style and emotional force.
- Power (34:04) describes the book as a powerful, surprising journey following Istvan, a Hungarian protagonist across decades:
- Impact for Author and Industry
- The win offers a “huge surge in sales, a huge surge in awareness,” and security for the author’s future work (32:41).
- Broader impact: gets people reading and generates excitement across the literary world.
South Africa’s Urban Infrastructure: World Bank Loan and US Relations
[36:09–43:35]
- Crumbling Cities and the Need for Reform
- Antony Squazen (37:52) explains the breakdown in water, power, and basic services due to poor maintenance, corruption, and lack of operational capacity.
- Innovative Funding Approach
- The World Bank’s “pay for results” scheme ties further funding to concrete municipal improvements (39:17):
"If cities reach...targets for revenue collection, for operational efficiency...they will be eligible for further grants..."
- The World Bank’s “pay for results” scheme ties further funding to concrete municipal improvements (39:17):
- Diplomatic Volatility
- The US, under Trump, boycotts the G20 summit in response to debunked claims of “white genocide,” straining relations ([40:19], [41:21]):
"It’s not been backed by anyone...so I think that in some ways they've got a little bit more than they bargained for...given the ferocity of the Trump administration's response..."
- Despite U.S. friction, South Africa works to strengthen ties with the UK, Germany, France, and multilateral lenders.
- The US, under Trump, boycotts the G20 summit in response to debunked claims of “white genocide,” straining relations ([40:19], [41:21]):
Gulf Urban Futures: Dubai and NEOM Redefine Ambition
[44:25–53:38]
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Urban Future Week in Dubai
- Inzamin Rashid (44:41) reports from Museum of the Future:
- Focus on digital cities, participatory design, balancing tech-driven growth with quality of life.
- UAE aims for “human-centered urban environments,” with a vision for 310 new parks and 60 affordable schools by 2033.
- Shift from “bigger is better” to “gentler urbanism.”
- Inzamin Rashid (44:41) reports from Museum of the Future:
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Saudi Arabia’s NEOM Scaled Back
- The megaproject NEOM is to be radically downsized (from planned 9 million residents); pragmatism is overtaking utopian ambition (49:26).
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Public Spaces for All Classes
- Recognition that Dubai lacks true communal and green spaces for migrant workers and the broader public—a priority in new plans.
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Sweet Note: Viral Dubai & Abu Dhabi Chocolates
- A viral chocolate saga leads to a new, high-end “love letter” chocolate bar for Abu Dhabi, featuring flavors of the region adorned with gold leaf (52:10).
Christie’s Jewelry Auction: Glamour, Provenance, and Storytelling
[54:18–58:39]
- Historic Pieces and Celebrity Provenance
- Keith Penton, Christie's (54:18): Elizabeth Taylor and Princess Margaret’s jewelry sales drew immense excitement and multiples over estimate due to personal connection:
"With Princess Margaret, people had a connection...They remembered her when she was young and glamorous..."
- Keith Penton, Christie's (54:18): Elizabeth Taylor and Princess Margaret’s jewelry sales drew immense excitement and multiples over estimate due to personal connection:
- Featured Collection
- Art Deco jewels from Alice, Lady Wimborne—pieces with rich backstories and wearable glamour are expected to spark global bidding wars (55:14).
- Story Sells
- Provenance is key. Penton explains (57:27) that while estimates are set objectively, buyers pay substantial premiums for character and narrative.
- Tiaras Are Back
- Tiaras, once relics, are suddenly sought-after (partly for weddings):
"Tiaras for weddings are huge, you know...They’re great cabinet pieces. And of course...they also have professionals who want them..." (57:35)
- Tiaras, once relics, are suddenly sought-after (partly for weddings):
Notable Quotes & Moments
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On Ukraine’s Resilience:
"People have these sort of batteries, large kind of batteries at home...At the moment, there is heat in people's home, which is good because it's not connected to electricity. But... it's really a fragile situation." — Lily Bivins, 04:49
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On Russian Strategy:
"It's meant to harm people's morale, right? ...The campaign is also just to make life and governing as difficult as possible." — Lily Bivins, 06:54
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On Humanitarian Challenges:
"You had far more charities on the ground who were able to support with things like...handing out generators...That charity infrastructure doesn't really exist anymore." — Ada Wordsworth, 08:12
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On the Booker’s Impact:
"It means...a huge surge in sales, a huge surge in awareness...it's one of those prizes where people suddenly know your name even if they haven't read your work..." — Chris Power, 32:41
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On Scaling Back Saudi Ambition:
"Saudi Arabia...is facing a huge reality check...plans for the 170-kilometer mirrored megacity will be scaled back significantly." — Inzamin Rashid, 49:26
Timestamps Quick Guide
- Ukraine’s energy crisis: 03:00–12:00
- U.S.-China trade truce: 12:00–20:08
- Booker Prize coverage: 20:15–36:09
- South African city reforms: 36:09–43:35
- Gulf region urban planning: 44:25–53:38
- Christie’s jewelry auction: 54:18–58:39
Tone & Language
The episode maintains Monocle’s hallmark style: authoritative yet accessible, global in scope but deeply attentive to the details and personal stories behind headlines.
For New Listeners
This episode is an encompassing primer on the week's most urgent current affairs—especially if you seek to understand the intersection of war, politics, urban innovation, and global culture, all delivered in a brisk, insightful, and highly listenable format.
