Podcast Summary: The goop Podcast with Gwyneth Paltrow
Episode: Gwyneth Paltrow | Date: November 11, 2025
Host: Gwyneth Paltrow
Guest: Zanna Roberts Rassi (highlighted in guest introduction and conversation)
Episode Overview
This episode of the goop podcast, hosted by Gwyneth Paltrow, centers on curiosity, authenticity, and the ongoing journey of self-care, purpose, and wellness. Set during a retreat celebrating Audemars Piguet’s 150th anniversary, Gwyneth is joined by journalist and entrepreneur Zanna Roberts Rassi for a candid conversation. From time management and self-reflection, to the evolving landscape of wellness, technology’s role in health, managing nervous system challenges, and the importance of intuition and vulnerability, the episode dives deeply into the modern female experience, embracing imperfection, and always “becoming.”
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Spirit of Curiosity & Partnership
- Gwyneth reflects on goop’s origins: rooted in her personal curiosity and desire to share exceptional discoveries with women.
- "At goop, so much of what we create begins with curiosity, my own search for the things that truly make life feel richer, more resonant, more alive." (00:02)
- The episode’s retreat is in collaboration with Audemars Piguet, whose quest for innovation and tradition resonates with goop’s philosophy of “always becoming.”
- "Their family-driven maison has pushed the boundaries of what’s possible... while staying rooted in timeless sophistication." (00:16)
2. Embracing Self-Care and Setting Boundaries
- Building self-care into daily routine: Gwyneth discusses deliberately carving time out in her mornings for meditation, exercise, and phone-free time.
- "I used to feel like my day kind of dragged me by the neck through it... I started to take ownership of my day, starting with myself and how I feel..." (03:20)
- "I get overwhelmed quickly ... so I've become pretty rigorous about like time in the morning for me to meditate and exercise and shower with no phone around." (03:35)
- Sticking With Rituals:
- Gwyneth checks emails early with coffee but puts the phone away for 90 minutes thereafter to create uninterrupted time. (04:07)
3. The Perils of Over-Productivity & Facing Uncomfortable Emotions
- Discusses being “busy” as a way to avoid uncomfortable feelings:
- "When we don't want to feel our uncomfortable feelings, we become very busy. We do as an act of not feeling." (04:37)
- "I came to start seeing this doing as a really detrimental act of like self-harm in a way." (05:33)
- The challenge of untangling identity from achievements and productivity, especially with aging:
- "We get really hardwired to do and to get the Praise. That starts to feel like part of our identity... And am I worth anything?" (05:52-06:30)
- Recognizes over-doing as a signal there’s something she’s avoiding feeling. (07:04)
4. Self-Awareness, Relationships, and Learning from Others
- Gwyneth credits her husband for helping keep her accountable during moments of overwhelm.
- "I also have a husband that's like, what's going on here?... he does." (07:20-07:25)
- Importance of surrounding oneself with supportive people and recognizing behavioral patterns. (07:24)
5. Time, Presence, and What Really Matters
- Reflection exercise prompted by retreat facilitator Jennifer: If time were infinite, what would you do differently?
- "I think I would try to focus on not doing the things that make life feel stressful... and hard." (08:04)
- Gwyneth’s husband’s experience (Famous Last Words Netflix series) confirms the universal regret about not spending enough time with loved ones:
- "Every time he comes home... he says, everybody says the same thing. I just wish they had more time with the people they loved, more time with their kids. Not one of them has said... I wish I had won that award..." (09:04)
6. Exploring Wellness: New Practices and Letting Go
- Wellness Trends:
- Loves the Heart Math gadget for nervous system support. (10:22)
- Less rigidity around diet, enjoying occasional indulgences. (11:01)
- Excited about the popularization and accessibility of personalized/functional medicine and calls for a more individualized approach to health.
- "The idea that one diet or one vitamin D is right for everybody is just not true." (12:08)
- Letting Go:
- Not every wellness trend sticks: can't get into the cold plunge.
- "I really struggle with the cold plunge... I just. I feel like I'm being tortured." (16:36)
- Not every wellness trend sticks: can't get into the cold plunge.
7. The Intersection of Wellness & Technology
- Finds AI, particularly large language models, immensely helpful for managing complex health data:
- "I build these GPTs... and I have the most incredible conversations with this GPT that I built around my health." (13:03)
- Advises using de-identified data and paid versions to protect privacy. (13:28)
- Sees AI increasing the value of artists, philosophers, and those who bring “soul” to the world.
- "Now that AI is probably going to take a lot of these jobs. We need artists and we need to counterbalance the machines with soul." (14:20)
8. Reflection, Goal Setting, and Regeneration
- Not a fan of formal year-end goal-planning; prefers to reflect on hard-earned lessons:
- "I like to sort of reckon with the year and what the lessons were... especially the harder lessons because I like to make sure I've heard the universe and I understand them, so I don't get them again." (17:28)
- Champions mandatory company downtime during Christmas and August:
- "Every year I close the whole company in kind of a European style and let everybody have the same time off... it's the only way you can really." (17:52)
- Goal for 2026: Be more intentional about time, stay less reactive to stress.
- "I would love to try to not do that so much and feel more grounded throughout the day..." (18:43)
9. Self-Compassion, Anxiety, and Nervous System Support
- Discusses her own heightened anxiety due to life stresses, hormonal changes, and public scrutiny:
- "I have a lot of anxiety for the first time in my life... I get in bed exhausted and my heart will start to race and then I'll have intrusive thoughts, which I've never had in my life..." (20:31-21:01)
- Support system:
- Two therapists—one for nervous system, plus close friends and family, including Jen Freed.
- "If I can be with everyone... under one roof, my nervous system calms down." (22:07)
- Two therapists—one for nervous system, plus close friends and family, including Jen Freed.
- Cherishes family, especially during holidays that blend Jewish and Christian traditions (Boxing Day included—see fun cross-cultural exchange at 23:07).
10. Trusting Instinct and Intuition
- Age and experience have reconnected her with her gut:
- "Now that I’m old and I don't give a fuck, I can feel myself so much more... I can feel my opinion. I can hear my thoughts. I can feel in my cells when something is wrong or immediately. I mean, almost immediately." (24:05)
- Distinguishes between instinct (a learned, informed reaction) and intuition (a deeper, more connected internal signal). (24:27-24:57)
11. Returning to Filmmaking & Reinvention
- Recent return to movies after years away was prompted by a new life phase (empty nest), not longing.
- "I hadn't missed it at all. I hadn't really thought about it." (25:28)
- "It was really, really fun. I loved the director so much. He's a brilliant guy. Josh Safdie and Timothee Chalamet, star of the movie." (27:13)
- Her career’s greatest risk: giving up a successful film career to start goop, at a time when celebrity entrepreneurship was rare.
- "People thought I was really nuts for doing it." (27:49)
12. On goop: Origins, Mission, and Passion
- goop began as a kitchen-table recommendations newsletter; became mission-driven around non-toxic beauty and wellness:
- "I wanted to create it for myself and for my friends and for women... There was no clean skin care at all... there was nothing for a woman who wanted a high performance skincare without literally antifreeze in it, which is in a lot of expensive moisturizers..." (28:25-29:43)
- The journey was organic, fueled by personal dissatisfaction with status quo products and a desire for health-driven alternatives.
- "There's never a right time... if you feel something, like you really want to put something into the world, just do it. There's no right time. You just have to take the leap." (31:01)
13. Rapid Fire Questions & Holiday Inspiration
- Holiday Gift Recommendation: goop’s legendary gift guide, with a nod to “very cool mahjong tiles.” (31:40)
- Favorite Way to Waste Time: Wandering, Pinterest, pottering around—valuing purposeless, agenda-free days. (31:56-32:27)
- Go-to Lunch: goop kitchen’s salmon bento box and healthy, allergen-free food. Food is central to goop's ethos:
- "The fastest way to feel a difference in how you feel is what you eat, period." (33:02-33:18)
14. Grief, Culture, and Community
- Gwyneth shares her struggles with grief, cultural failures around death, and the importance of community:
- "I find our culture right now very difficult to understand and very difficult to process... we're terrible in our culture at dealing with grief and death..." (34:19-35:16)
- Emphasizes the healing power of empathy, female friendships, and vulnerability.
- "If we can be vulnerable and get out of that old fashioned, like, competition paradigm and be in communion with one another and be vulnerable, like, it fills me." (36:55)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- "Nobody changes until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life." – Gwyneth Paltrow (01:45)
- "When we don’t want to feel our uncomfortable feelings, we become very busy. We do as an act of not feeling." – Gwyneth Paltrow (04:37)
- "Every time [my husband] comes home... he says, everybody says the same thing. I just wish they had more time with the people they loved, more time with their kids." – Gwyneth Paltrow (09:04)
- "The idea that one diet or one vitamin D is right for everybody is just not true." – Gwyneth Paltrow (12:08)
- "Now that AI is probably going to take a lot of these jobs. We need artists and we need to counterbalance the machines with soul." – Gwyneth Paltrow (14:20)
- "Now that I'm old and I don't give a fuck, I can feel myself so much more." – Gwyneth Paltrow (24:05)
- "Food is such a cornerstone of goop...the fastest way to feel a difference in how you feel is what you eat, period." – Gwyneth Paltrow (33:13)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Opening Reflections on Curiosity & goop’s Philosophy: 00:02–01:18
- Self-Care Rituals & Managing Overwhelm: 03:15–04:22
- Busy-ness As Avoidance: 04:37–05:33
- Accountability in Relationships: 07:17–07:25
- Infinite Time Thought Exercise: 07:30–09:41
- Wellness Gadgets & Personalization: 10:09–13:03
- AI, Health, and the Future of Arts: 13:25–14:33
- Reflection & Intentions for the Year: 16:53–19:37
- Nervous System Challenges & Support Systems: 19:46–22:19
- Family/Holiday Traditions: 22:35–23:41
- Instinct vs. Intuition: 24:27–24:57
- Return to Acting: 25:04–27:29
- Founding goop, Clean Beauty, and Taking Risks: 27:41–31:01
- Rapid Fire: Gifts, Time-Wasting, Food: 31:15–34:19
- Grief, Connection, and Community: 34:19–36:55
Conclusion
This episode offers listeners a layered, intimate look at what it’s like to continually question, grow, and nurture oneself—spiritually, emotionally, and physically—as a woman, mother, and leader. Gwyneth’s openness about anxiety, aging, family, and the lifelong journey of “becoming” weaves through topics of wellness, technology, purpose, and community. For fans of goop or seekers of insight into intentional living, this episode is filled with wisdom, humor, and human connection.
