Udi Wertheimer, Founder of Taproot Wizards joins us to talk about the shifting narratives of Bitcoin, the structural flaws of layer-2 scaling solutions, and how stablecoins enable Hyperliquid and Polymarket. He critiques Michael Saylor’s aggressive financial engineering tactics, explaining why MicroStrategy stopping its Bitcoin buying spree is a far greater systemic risk to the market than Saylor actually selling his bags. Subscribe to the newsletter! https://newsletter.blockspacemedia.com Notes: * Udi missed his $400k 2025 BTC forecast. * Saylor's treasury is worth $55 billion. * Saylor not buying for one quarter poses major risk. * Treasury value could drop to $20 billion. * MSTR holds a $2 billion cash reserve limit. Timestamps: 00:00 Start 00:10 "I was wrong" - Udi 03:02 Layer 2 04:08 Recent Bitcoin history 07:56 On-chain activity will be fringe behavior 13:10 True believers & this cycle 17:37 narrative changes 21:02 Stablecoins 26:00 Agentic payments 27:26 Stablecoins & prediction markets 36:32 STRC selling BTC 43:22 Saylor thought experiment 47:05 Saylor BTC supply overhang 50:05 Saylor "folding" 57:48 10% of Gold supply 1:00:14 Is ANYTHING bullish now? 1:04:14 AI vibe coding

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