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Ashan Singh
Hey, this is Ashan Singh from ABC News and I want to tell you about a new true crime podcast I'm hosting from 2020 in ABC audio called what Happened to the Mixed Days? If you enjoyed this show, I think you'll really like it. It's a story about secrets, betrayal, and the dark underbelly of the American dream. In 2010, a family of four goes missing from their Southern California home. No signs of a struggle or forced entry, but clues scattered about the home raised questions. Had the McStays really left on their own? If they did, where would they have gone in such a hurry? Or had something more sinister happened? In our new podcast, what happened to the McStays? We'll be sharing the whole shocking story. Keep listening now to hear the first episode right here. If you like it, you can hear the rest of the series by following what happens to the McStays for free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you're listening now. Or you can get the series early and ad free by subscribing to 2020 True Crime plus on Apple Podcasts. Click the link in the description to start your free trial today. Now here's episode one of what Happened to the Mixed Days?
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Ashan Singh
In November of 2009, family of four moved into a palm tree dotted cul de sac in the hills of San Diego County. Joseph McStay and his wife Summer were in their early 40s and living a seemingly charmed Southern California life with their two young sons. Their new neighborhood was surrounded by mountains and farmland. Their new house, a large Spanish style home on Avocado Vista lane, was around 10 years old with a stucco exterior and a red terracotta roof. The McStay's home videos from around this time show an active, fun loving family in one little Joseph Jr. Runs around the first floor of their
KGTV Reporter
new home, the house over here.
Ashan Singh
In another video, all four of the McStays bike to the beach.
Michael McStay
Jay, come here. Oh my God. Cadillac Mama.
Ashan Singh
And then there's the video where the two McStay boys, Joseph Jr. And his big brother Gianni Swing side by side at a playground swing set together, their mom, Summer, pushes them higher and higher. For a couple of months, these were the types of sounds that filled the McStay residents. But one day in February 2010, the house went quiet. Local station KGTV covered the story.
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The outside of the McStay home remains exactly as the family left it. Their shoes and the newspaper both outside. There was a carton of eggs left out on the counter. And one other thing. Summer McStay left her prescription sunglasses behind. Family left their dogs behind. And there had been no activity on their phones.
Ashan Singh
It was as if the mixtaze had simply vanished into thin air. Authorities, friends and family were baffled. But how does a vibrant family of four suddenly go missing? From ABC Audio in 2020, I'm Ashton Singh and this is what happened to the mixed days. Episode 111 Days. Joseph McStay, or Joey, had a weekly ritual with his little brother Michael. In a 2011 interview with ABC News, Michael said that every Friday, Joseph would give him a ring on his way to play pickup soccer.
Michael McStay
He would call me, we'd touch base. Hey, how's things going? Hey, Mikey, how's your business? What's going on? How are the girls? I'd ask how the boys were and he'd tell me what was going on.
Ashan Singh
But on Friday, February 5, 2010, Michael didn't get that weekly call from his big brother. For Michael, this was unusual but not alarming.
Michael McStay
So to miss one Friday, I mean, I didn't think a whole lot of it.
Ashan Singh
But then several days went by without a peep from Joseph. No calls, texts or emails. It was the same at his work too. Joseph Co owned a business that sold high end decorative fountains, the kind you might see in hotel lobbies. The company was in the middle of a couple of projects when Joseph's colleagues told the McStay family they noticed Joseph had gone completely silent.
Michael McStay
There was customer emails not being answered, which is not like Joe. He was usually right on top of it.
Ashan Singh
Joseph's friends started reaching out to Michael to ask, hey, have you heard from Joe? What's going on? He's not answering his phone. Joseph's wife Summer wasn't returning calls either. So Michael posted to his brother's Facebook page asking friends, if you've seen him, please let the family know. Family and friends got in touch. Michael and Joseph's parents, plus two of Joseph's colleagues, Dan Kavanaugh and Chase Merritt. They shared any relevant information they had. And Michael pieced together that Thursday, February 4th was likely the last day anyone had seen or heard from his brother. Michael and Joseph's father said he talked to Joseph that morning. And according to Joseph's business associate, Chase, he and Joseph met up that afternoon. Loved ones were worried about the mixed days, but Michael tried to remain optimistic. He thought it was possible the family left on a trip and just didn't tell anyone.
Michael McStay
I thought, well, maybe. Maybe they're doing a quick vacay. So I didn't want to jump to any conclusions.
Ashan Singh
A few days after the McStays went quiet, Joseph's business partner, Dan Kavanaugh, who called the police for a welfare check, San Diego county sheriff's deputies came out to the home and knocked on the door. No one was home at the time, but with no signs that anything was amiss, deputies followed procedure and did not go inside. Joseph's business associate, Chase Merritt, also went to the house a couple times that week, he says, to see if he could find Joseph. No luck. And by February 13, the McStays hadn't been seen or heard from in nine days. Michael says he decided to check the home himself. He took a trip to Avocado Vista Lane. Chase came along, too.
Michael McStay
I went down there, started knocking on doors, asking the neighbors had they seen him.
Ashan Singh
Michael says he let himself into the house through a back window that was cracked open. He started looking through the home, he says. It was messy. Kitchen drawers had been pulled out and placed on countertops. Toys, books, and clothes were scattered around, and the house was barely furnished. The family was using air mattresses instead of beds. To Michael, it was like his brother and his family were camping in their own home. But this was Michael's first time in the McStay's new house. They'd only moved in about two months earlier, and they were remodeling. Michael says they'd been doing work on the floors and painting cabinets. So to him, this could have been a normal level of untidiness, given the circumstances and given that Joseph and Summer had two young children. But there was one thing Michael noticed right away that he clocked as being very, very off.
Michael McStay
The dogs were left outside unattended. It didn't make sense.
Ashan Singh
The McStay family dogs were left to sit in the hot California sun. By all accounts, the McStays loved their dogs. A big akita called Bear and a golden retriever puppy called Digger. Friends say they were like second kids to Joseph and Summer to leave them alone outside for days on end. This just didn't sit right with Michael. He asked a neighbor to keep an eye on the dogs and then he left, hoping his family would show up soon. But the McStays had disappeared, leaving a puzzle that would soon mystify their friends and family.
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Gina Watson
One thing about Joseph is he would always talk for hours. And I'm not exaggerating, like, sometimes two hours.
Ashan Singh
Gina Watson was one of Joseph McStay's friends. They'd met because Gina also worked in the decorative fountain industry. She says they'd gotten to know each other well. And according to Gina, Joseph was a talker.
Gina Watson
I would call him before I'd left for lunch to like, talk about whatever the problem of the day was. And then it would evolve into just, I don't know, like, conversation goes from one thing to another. And then I'm like, the phone's getting hot because it's been in your ear so long, like, can we wrap this up?
Ashan Singh
Gina said that Joseph adored his wife Summer, and their two boys.
Gina Watson
Joseph's kids and his wife were everything to him.
Ashan Singh
Gina says Joseph would share stories about his rambunctious little boys. Like the Time they snuck out of their beds early one morning and started rummaging through their kitchen cabinets.
Gina Watson
He said one night, Gianni and little Joey had gotten into the flower. I guess they kept it in a lower cabinet and you're a parent and you're tired and your little kid sneaks out of bed and gets into the flower. And they had it all over themselves and they had like handprints and footprints everywhere and they were covered head to toe.
Ashan Singh
Gina describes Joseph as a surfer dude. He had wavy, shoulder length, light brown hair. In pictures, it looks like he would be more comfortable in shorts and a T shirt and a suit and tie. Joseph and Summer sons gianni and Joseph Jr were four years old and three respectively at the time they vanished. Photos of the little boys show their hair down to their shoulders, just like their dad. In one photo, Joey Jr. Holds an ice cream sandwich, chocolate all over his mouth. And Gina says their dad, Joseph Sr. Was generous with his friends.
Gina Watson
He would buy his friends laptops just because he was excited about technology and he wanted them to be as excited as he was. And, oh, you gotta check out this gaming laptop. Like, oh, you need top of the line. No, that's not good enough. Let me get you this one. He was just very easy with money. He never was too uptight about it. He was more so than any person I've ever met, to be honest.
Ashan Singh
Joseph and Summer were introduced in the early 2000s. One of his friends set them up and everyone says they hit it off right away.
Jesse Silveria
Summer was a very passionate woman who went after what she wanted.
Ashan Singh
That's Jesse Silveria, a friend of Summer's.
Jesse Silveria
I met summer around 2006 and I was living in Laguna beach and I think both of us were Laguna ites.
Ashan Singh
Jesse and Summer were both photographers at the time and met while working the same shoot.
Jesse Silveria
To me, Summer was exotic. You know, she had dark hair, dark eyes, dark skin, really big, cute smile.
Ashan Singh
Jesse says she and Summer would go out together, two creatives enjoying the beachy art scene of Laguna. Once Summer got pregnant, Jesse says she scaled back her active social life, stopped working and became a stay at home mom.
Jesse Silveria
They were nesting. That phase in her life was nesting.
Ashan Singh
Friends and family say Joseph and Summer loved the beach. For a time, the couple and their sons lived in San Clemente. Their apartment was on top of a cliff overlooking the ocean with world class surfing right outside their door.
Jesse Silveria
The kids, they were growing up to be surfer dudes too. They definitely took after Joey, you know, wanting to be close to the ocean.
Ashan Singh
Another big part of the McStay's lives was Joseph's work. Earth Inspired Products. It sold elaborate custom decorative waterfalls. These were large scale standalone objects, often 6ft tall. Water would be pumped invisibly to the top of tall glass panes and then cascade down into pools that sparkled with hidden light fixtures. Earth Inspired Products also had an online retail side where they sold pre manufactured water features. Gina Watson worked for one of Joseph's manufacturing partners. That's how the two met and became friends. She says Joseph was a designer at heart.
Gina Watson
He actually started his business, I think, like in his garage designing his own features by hand.
Ashan Singh
Gina says Joseph was taking on more and more custom work and the business was doing really well. According to people familiar with the company, Earth Inspired Products had gotten big contracts. A car wash chain with 150 locations, a huge custom job for the Paul Mitchell hair salon brand, and even a project in Saudi Arabia. In late 2009, the McStay family moved from their small beachside apartment in San Clemente to their house on that palm tree lined cul de sac. Their new town of Fallbrook is better known for its avocado orchards than its proximity to the coast. It's a 30 minute drive to the beach, a trade off for the surf loving McStays. But it was big. Five bedrooms with a backyard. Here's Summer's friend Jessie again.
Jesse Silveria
All the outside was completely populated with kids toys and trucks and boy stuff. And she was growing flowers and gardens again.
Ashan Singh
They had plans to remodel the home. By early 2010, some of the renovations were underway. Joseph would fill his brother Michael in on the progress.
Michael McStay
Okay, they're remodeling the house and it's kind of crazy, you know, the furniture's still in storage.
Ashan Singh
By February of 2010, Joseph was doing well professionally. The couple was working on upgrading their new house. Family seemed settled.
Michael McStay
Joe doesn't invest, you know, like $30,000 into a house to renovate it because he's going to leave tomorrow. That just doesn't jive. He doesn't walk out on his friends and his family.
Ashan Singh
And yet at that house in Fallbrook, no one was home. And for over a week, there had only been silence from the family who lived there. It didn't add up. Michael McStay says he decided that if his brother and family were as he'd hoped, just to on an extended vacation, they should be back by February 15th. He says he told himself that if by 9am he still hadn't heard from Joseph, he'd file a missing persons report. That's exactly what Michael did.
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Ashan Singh
By the morning of February 15, 2010, Michael McStay had reached his personal deadline to sound the alarm. No one had heard from Joseph or summer in 11 days. Michael called the police.
Michael McStay
He asked for a welfare check and the patrol deputies came out and checked the house.
Ashan Singh
Lt. Dennis Brugos from the San Diego Sheriff's Department oversaw the investigation. According to police, at 10:32am Michael, along with officers from the San Diego Sheriff's Department, arrived at the McStays Fallbrook house. They knocked on the door and checked the exterior for signs of forced entry. When they got no response, they entered the residence and started a search. Began by looking for people, either people in distress or bodies. They found neither, but they did encounter the dogs were still in the backyard alone with some water and food Left out for them.
Michael McStay
That raised red flags because by all accounts, they took very good care of their dogs.
Ashan Singh
And when police heard from Michael that the mcstays had left without notifying any friends or family, that raised immediate alarm bells, too.
Michael McStay
What the deputy initially learned was, this is really a nice family, and they never made plans to leave. And so that raised the suspicion level to the point where he said, you know what? I should probably call homicide and let them know what's going on out here.
Ashan Singh
Lieutenant Brugo says suspicious circumstances. Cases like this one are handled by the homicide unit whether there's a dead body or not. Police say that when homicide detectives joined the search at the mcstay residence, they checked again for any signs of foul play, any clue as to what may have happened to the mcstays. Officers looked all over the home. Inside the kitchen pantry, in the den, the garage, in a recycling bin. Outside, in the truck parked in the driveway. As detectives searched, they noticed a few curious things. To start, it was the food that was left out, according to police and court documents. Downstairs in the living room, there were two small bowls of popcorn, half eaten, left on a futon. Bananas that had started to rot, and a carton of eggs were sitting out on the kitchen counter.
Michael McStay
You don't leave perishable food out if you're going to be gone for an extended period of time.
Ashan Singh
Generally, it seemed like the family may have left the house suddenly, even unexpectedly. And then there was the mess police documented. Clothes piled up on the bathroom counter, Suitcases left open with clothes spilling out into piles, A tall lamp that looked like it had been knocked over. If the mcstays had gone on vacation, like Michael so hoped was the case, why would they have left suitcases full of clothing behind? And detectives also uncovered something else. Lieutenant Brugos, again, we knew that one
Michael McStay
of the vehicles was parked here in a driveway, and the other one wasn't here.
Ashan Singh
The McStay's 1996 white Isuzu Trooper was missing. If police could find the vehicle, maybe they could find the mcstays. They ran a search on the Isuzu trooper and immediately came up with a hit, According to police records, the check revealed that the vehicle was recently towed from a parking lot about 60 miles from the McStay's home near the u. S. Mexico border. So near, in fact, that it was walking distance to the border terminal. According to police, the car had been towed from that lot on February 8, four days after the mcstays vanished. Now police had to find out what did this clue mean. Did the McStays leave for Mexico altogether? And if so, did they go voluntarily or by force? Were they hiding, kidnapped? Police couldn't yet say. The search of the McStay residence took all day, and in the end, police determined there was no sign of forced entry, no sign of a struggle or act of violence, no blood. In other words, no apparent signs of foul play, no clear crime. But that didn't mean that detectives were confident that all was well with the McStays. The abandoned dogs, the spoiled food left out, the family car found at the Mexican border. As Lt. Brugos puts it, when you
Michael McStay
put the whole picture together, it raises the level of suspicion that something's not right.
Ashan Singh
Once officers wrapped up the search of the home, a couple of the detectives, Troy Dugall and Suzanne Fisk, pulled Michael aside for an interview in their police car. In the tape from this interview, Michael still hopes that his big brother's family could be perfectly fine.
Detective Troy Dugall
What's the percentages of these, like being in a situation like this and then it just being something totally innocent.
Michael McStay (Interviewee)
I can tell you that I've never had one like. Like this, where a family is just totally missing, ever. So I can't give you a. I can't give you a good statistic.
Ashan Singh
Detective Dugal asked Michael for more information about the missing family. How was Joseph and Summer's relationship? Who are their closest friends? Did he have problems with anyone or money trouble?
Michael McStay (Interviewee)
Do you know if there's any money involvement with your brother owing someone money? Or would somebody try to take advantage of your brother?
Detective Troy Dugall
I don't know enough about what's going on with this. Business wise. I have no idea.
Ashan Singh
They dug deeper, asking about Joseph's finances.
Detective Troy Dugall
How much is your brother worth? Oh, I don't know. I have no idea.
Ashan Singh
You know what his yearly income is?
Detective Troy Dugall
No.
Ashan Singh
Dougal asked if Joseph might have been involved in narcotics.
Detective Troy Dugall
My brother doesn't even do drugs. So that's it. Out.
Ashan Singh
Detectives also asked about the Isuzu trooper. Did Michael have any idea what Joseph and his family might be doing walking distance from Tijuana?
Detective Troy Dugall
I don't know. I don't know what he's doing down there. I have no idea. I don't think he knows anybody down there.
Ashan Singh
The whole situation still didn't sit right with Michael or the detectives.
Detective Troy Dugall
This thing has just got me scratching my head.
Michael McStay (Interviewee)
Well, we don't know any more than you know. What do you think as a brother? Where are they? What do you mean?
Detective Troy Dugall
I'm hoping they went down and they just went to Mexico and they took a two week vacation. I mean that's a, that's a pipe dream at this point. I don't know.
Michael McStay (Interviewee)
I would hope that too. But what, what did you see in the house that would indicate that that's probably not true?
Detective Troy Dugall
I just walked through but I didn't get it.
Michael McStay
I mean I didn't.
Michael McStay (Interviewee)
Well, let me help you out. Inside the walk in closet that there's suitcases and there's little kids suitcases with suitcase flaps open with folded little kid laundry. Clean laundry in the suitcase.
Detective Troy Dugall
Yeah.
Michael McStay (Interviewee)
If they went on vacation, the kids suitcases would have been with them.
Ashan Singh
In his official account of the day, Detective Dugal concluded that there had been no apparent sign of a crime. But he also said this. It is my opinion the McStay family is the victim of foul play. The police knew this wasn't over. There was more work to be done. Now the race was on to find out what had actually happened to the family of four before it was too late. What happened to the mixtays is a production of abc audio in 2020, hosted by me, ashen singh. Produced by madeline wood, vika aronson, audrey mostek and kiara powell with help from sabrina fang and camille peterson. Edited by gianna palmer. Our supervising producer is suzy lu. Music by evan viola. Scoring by chiara powell. Mixing with evan viola and bob mallory. Special thanks to katie dendos, janice johnson, chris donovan, joseph ree, sonny antrim, alyssa stoler, xander samaras, tom berman, indra dalaisakhan and blue browning. Josh cohan is our director of podcast programming. Eamon mcnath is our executive produce.
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Host: Ashan Singh (ABC News)
Date: August 11, 2026
This episode introduces listeners to the mysterious 2010 disappearance of the McStay family—a seemingly normal, happy family of four who vanished from their Southern California home with no sign of struggle or forced entry. Host Ashan Singh guides listeners through the initial investigation, painting a vivid picture of the McStay family's life, the early days of uncertainty, and the chilling details that suggested something more sinister than a spontaneous departure.
A Picture-Perfect Family (03:43–06:43):
Notable Quotes:
The First Signs (04:42–06:43):
The Quiet House & Early Search (06:43–08:46):
Welfare Check and Official Missing Person Report (10:08–18:27):
Memorable Quote:
Personal Belongings and Vehicles (22:55–24:03):
No Clear Signs of Foul Play (23:44–28:03):
Family and Police Speculation (25:27–28:03):
Detective’s Doubt:
The episode’s narration conveys mounting unease as hope gives way to suspicion and fear. The speakers’ candid recollections foster empathy for the McStays, contrasting the family’s joyful home videos with the grim reality of their disappearance. The style is immersive and investigative, giving listeners a real-time sense of the investigation’s urgency as the mystery deepens.
This first episode effectively sets the stage for a haunting real-life mystery. Through careful storytelling, personal anecdotes, and escalating investigative tension, listeners are drawn into the lives—and inexplicable disappearance—of the McStay family. The interviews and narration leave listeners with more questions than answers, eager to hear what investigators and the next five episodes will uncover.