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Tracei Mumford
From the new York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracei Mumford. Today's Wednesday, November 27th. Here's what we're covering.
Ewan Ward
Just after 4am this morning, the skies above the Lebanese capital Beirut basically erupted in celebratory gunfire. In fact, I can still hear it now as people took to the streets to celebrate what was an end to a bloody year long conflict and a brutal bombardment in and around the Lebanese capital.
Tracei Mumford
My colleague Ewan Ward is in Beirut, where the ceasefire between Israel and the militant group Hezbollah went into effect early this morning. Lebanese lawmakers still have to formally approve the deal today, but the fighting has already stopped. The truce is supposed to last for 60 days. The terms of the ceasefire call for Israel to pull its troops out of Lebanon over the next two months, while Hezbollah is supposed to move its forces north away from the Israeli border.
Ewan Ward
I've spoken to people today who are already looking to return. There's bumper to bumper traffic heading south as thousands make their way back to their home villages which they've been displaced from. This comes despite warnings by both the Lebanese military and Israeli military that they should wait. Israeli troops obviously still deployed in the south and it remains unclear exactly when they will withdraw and how long that might take.
Tracei Mumford
Over the course of the fighting, nearly 4,000 people were killed and more than a million were displaced. The vast majority of the casualties and displacements were on the Lebanese side.
Patrick Kingsley
Just as the Lebanese people deserve a future of security and prosperity, so do the people of Gaza. They too, deserve an end of the fighting and displacement.
Tracei Mumford
While marking the ceasefire in Lebanon, President Biden turned his focus to Gaza.
Patrick Kingsley
Over the coming days, the United States will make another push with Turkey, Egypt, Qatar, Israel and others to achieve a ceasefire in Gaza.
Hiroko Tabuchi
As soon as the deal in Lebanon was announced, world leaders including President Biden were expressing hope that the deal would create momentum toward a deal between Israel and Hamas in Gaza, but analysts are skeptical about this.
Tracei Mumford
Patrick Kingsley is the Times bureau chief in Jerusalem.
Hiroko Tabuchi
The Hezbollah deal was possible because the Lebanese militia was weakened by months of assassinations of its leaders and battlefield losses, and it had essentially lost its leverage at the negotiating t. These dynamics are not the case in Gaza, where a breakthrough is a lot harder because Hamas still has quite a strong negotiating position. Hamas is held out for 14 months largely because it holds 100 hostages, so that means it can hold out for its maximalist aims, which are to survive the war intact as the dominant power in Gaza, and for Israel to withdraw from Gaza. And on the Israeli side, Netanyahu has vowed to completely remove Hamas from power, so striking any kind of deal with them would look like a failure to much of the Israeli electorate, and in particular to his base and to his far right governing allies, and potentially threaten his grip on power.
Tracei Mumford
Donald Trump has continued to fill out the public health leadership for his next administration, naming Dr. J. Bhattacharya to be the director of the National Institutes of Health. Bhattacharya is a physician and economist at Stanford who co authored a controversial manifesto in 2020 arguing against COVID lockdowns. He said the virus should be allowed to spread among young, healthy people and that prevention efforts should be targeted to older people and the vulnerable. He and his co author's ideas have been dismissed as fringe by the public health establishment, though some gave the arguments a second look as the economic and mental health impacts caused by the lockdowns became clear. Bhattacharya is the latest in a series of Trump's health picks, like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Who gained prominence during the pandemic by sharing views outside the mainstream.
Daisy Harris
As a full time dog mom. Today we're going to the park to have a little picnic.
Tracei Mumford
There have been a stream of videos across social media over the past few.
Daisy Harris
Years, and keeping the dogs hydrated is so important on days like this. So I packed plenty of water. I always opt for pet plastics because.
Tracei Mumford
They'Re they feature cheery influencers going about their days while casually talking up the benefits of certain plastic bottles.
Daisy Harris
Did you know that pet plastic bottles.
Tracei Mumford
Are a closed loop zero waste system now? The Times has obtained documents that show that those videos were part of a million dollar campaign by a trade group that represents some of the world's largest plastics and petrochemical companies. The businesses behind the group known as Napcor, make everything from Coke bottles to solo cups, and they've been trying to reverse what their internal files describe as a quote tied of anti plastic sentiment. There's been growing awareness in recent years that the vast majority of plastic doesn't ever get recycled, creating millions of tons of waste a year.
Unnamed Reporter
So we got these documents from a group called Fuelnotes, which is a watchdog group that focuses on the oil and gas sector. And basically what interested me was just the very frank way in which this plastics industry group was discussing a how to kind of win over hearts and minds, but also how they were saying we need to get this messaging out in a way that kind of hides the fact that this messaging was coming out of the plastics industry.
Tracei Mumford
Hiroko Tabuchi covers the environment for the Times. She says napcorp hired half a dozen influencers to promote their products on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. And while many of the ads did note that they were part of a campaign, the ad campaign's social media pages never mentioned napcord. The group also partnered with the actor Dennis Quaid to make a pro plastics episode of his TV show. And they ran a social media campaign pushing back when the Paris Olympics banned single use plastics.
Unnamed Reporter
In the documents, we see the industry group really saying that they're pleased with how these influencer campaigns turned out. They say surveys show that people who saw the content had a much better view of the plastics industry, for example. And this is part of a wider battle that's being waged over the future of plastics. There are global talks right now going on in South Korea where nations are trying to hammer out a treaty that would tackle the plastic pollution problem once and for all. And one of the options on the table is a measure that would restrict plastic production so that we are just using less plastic. That's something that the plastic industry would like to avoid. They're arguing that plastics has a place in modern life as long as we're recycling, as long as we are making sure it doesn't end up in the environment.
Tracei Mumford
This week around Thanksgiving is always one of the busiest times to travel. But this year is shaping up to be record breaking. More than 18 million Americans are expected to travel by air this week. And AAA says more than 70 million Americans will hit the road. That would put the number of Thanksgiving travelers on track to beat out even pre pandemic peaks. Travel patterns are also changing. Since many people can now work remotely for a day or two, they're extending the holiday. A lot of Americans already left Monday or Tuesday and they may not come home until next week. And some people are skipping the big family meal altogether. There's been a surge in solo travel at this time of year. Travel experts say the stigma of spending the holidays alone has been fading and the appeal of a little self care vacation has grown. That's given people the green light to head to the beach or to Vegas instead of having to sleep back in their childhood bedroom or trying to make small talk with the uncle they haven't seen since last year. And finally, phone scams have reached mind boggling levels with tens of millions of scam calls a day. The scammers dial people up looking for banking details, passwords, personal information, which they have then used to steal billions of dollars. Older adults in particular are seen as easy prey. And now one British phone company, O2, has recruited a senior citizen of its own to fight back.
Daisy Harris
Well, I do have a computer, but I'm not currently at it. I was actually just about to sit down with them. A nice cup and some biscuits. Do you like biscuits? Peter?
Tracei Mumford
Meet Daisy Harris. She's got a cat, she likes to knit, and she really loves to talk. She was generated by artificial intelligence specifically to be chatty. At first. Scammers may think that's a good thing. She doesn't immediately hang up. What they don't realize is that Daisy is designed to waste their time.
Hiroko Tabuchi
Are you there?
Daisy Harris
Oh yes, I'm here, dear. I'm just trying to remember the last time I looked at my computer.
Tracei Mumford
She's programmed to go on tangents about her hobbies and to play dumb about technology. On one call, three phone scammers ended up on the line at one time to talk to her for nearly an hour as they struggled to get her to type www.into the browser. Slowing scammers down to try to keep them from ripping off anyone else isn't a new idea. There are humans who like to do this too. Just stretch out the calls. But they only have so much time. Daisy's schedule is wide open. For now, there is no way to deploy her en masse against the scammers. Instead, the scammers have to dial one of the few lines that she answers and fall into her trap. Experts say the best thing you can do if you get a scam call is don't be like Daisy, hang up. Those are the headlines today on the Daily A Times investigation into Israel's tactic of using Palestinian detainees as human shields. That's next in the New York Times audio app. Or you can listen wherever you get your podcasts. This show is made by Robert Jemison, Jessica Metzger, Jan Stewart and me, Tracy Mumford, with help from Isabella Anderson. Original theme by Dan Powell. Special thanks to Larissa Anderson, Jake Lucas, Zoe Murphy and Paula Schuman. The headlines will be back on Monday after the Thanksgiving holiday.
The Headlines: A Fragile Israel-Hezbollah Truce, and a Push to Make You Love Plastic
Release Date: November 27, 2024 | Host: Tracei Mumford | The New York Times
Overview:
The episode opens with a detailed report on the recent ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon. After a tumultuous year marked by intense conflict and bombardment in Beirut, a fragile truce has been established, bringing a temporary halt to hostilities.
Key Points:
Implementation of Ceasefire:
The ceasefire went into effect early morning, with Lebanese lawmakers set to formally approve the deal. The truce is scheduled to last for 60 days, during which Israel will withdraw its troops from Lebanon over two months, and Hezbollah will reposition its forces away from the Israeli border. (Tracei Mumford, 01:08)
Public Reaction and Movements:
Celebratory gunfire erupted in Beirut as residents took to the streets. Despite official warnings, thousands are returning to their displaced home villages, contributing to heavy traffic as they move south. (Ewan Ward, 01:35)
Humanitarian Impact:
The conflict resulted in nearly 4,000 deaths and displaced over a million people, predominantly affecting the Lebanese population. (Tracei Mumford, 02:03)
Notable Quotes:
Patrick Kingsley, Times Bureau Chief in Jerusalem, emphasized the broader regional implications:
"Just as the Lebanese people deserve a future of security and prosperity, so do the people of Gaza. They too, deserve an end of the fighting and displacement." (02:13)
Hiroko Tabuchi provided analytical insights into the challenges of expanding ceasefire efforts to Gaza:
"In Gaza, a breakthrough is a lot harder because Hamas still has quite a strong negotiating position... On the Israeli side, Netanyahu has vowed to completely remove Hamas from power, so striking any kind of deal with them would look like a failure to much of the Israeli electorate." (02:58 - 04:16)
Overview:
The episode shifts focus to political developments in the United States, highlighting Donald Trump's nomination of Dr. J. Bhattacharya as the new director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH).
Key Points:
Dr. Bhattacharya’s Background:
A Stanford physician and economist, Bhattacharya co-authored a controversial 2020 manifesto opposing COVID-19 lockdowns, advocating for allowing the virus to spread among healthy populations while protecting the vulnerable. (Tracei Mumford, 04:16)
Controversial Views and Public Health:
His stance has been largely dismissed by the public health community, though it has garnered some attention amid concerns over the economic and mental health impacts of lockdowns. Bhattacharya follows a trend of Trump appointing figures with fringe views, similar to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., known for his pandemic-era skepticism. (04:16 - 05:13)
Overview:
A significant investigative segment reveals how the plastics industry, through the group Napcor, has orchestrated a million-dollar social media campaign to improve the public image of PET plastics using influencers.
Key Points:
Campaign Strategies:
Napcor hired influencers to subtly promote the benefits of PET plastics on platforms like TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook. While some ads disclosed their campaign origins, many did not mention Napcor, aiming to mask the industry's involvement. Additionally, partnerships included promotions with actor Dennis Quaid for his TV show and campaigns opposing the Paris Olympics' ban on single-use plastics. (Tracei Mumford, 05:17 - 07:11)
Internal Industry Documents:
The Times obtained internal documents from Fuelnotes, a watchdog group, revealing the industry's strategic efforts to counteract anti-plastic sentiment and avoid measures that would limit plastic production. These documents highlighted the industry's focus on portraying plastics as essential for modern life, contingent upon effective recycling and environmental safeguards. (Unnamed Reporter, 06:13 - 07:11)
Global Implications:
With ongoing global discussions in South Korea aiming to establish a treaty addressing plastic pollution, the plastics industry's campaigns are a direct response to potential restrictions on production, emphasizing their commitment to recycling and environmental responsibility. (07:11 - 08:05)
Overview:
The episode concludes with an examination of current Thanksgiving travel trends and the rising threat of phone scams, highlighting innovative responses to these issues.
Key Points:
Record-Breaking Travel:
This Thanksgiving is projected to see over 18 million Americans flying and more than 70 million traveling by road, surpassing even pre-pandemic figures. Remote work flexibility has led to extended holidays and increased solo travel, reflecting changing social norms and growing acceptance of self-care vacations. (Tracei Mumford, 08:05)
Rise in Phone Scams:
Phone scams have surged to unprecedented levels, with millions of scam calls daily targeting individuals for sensitive information, leading to significant financial losses. Older adults are particularly vulnerable, prompting innovative countermeasures. (Tracei Mumford, 08:05)
O2’s AI Assistant 'Daisy':
British phone company O2 has introduced 'Daisy,' an AI-generated persona designed to engage scammers in prolonged conversations, effectively wasting their time and reducing the impact of scam attempts. Daisy distracts scammers by discussing hobbies and feigning lack of technology knowledge, making it difficult for scammers to extract information. While effective on a limited scale, deploying Daisy widely remains a challenge. (Tracei Mumford, 09:52 - 10:19)
Notable Quotes:
Hiroko Tabuchi commented on the plastics industry's methods:
"Napcorp hired half a dozen influencers to promote their products on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook... they never mentioned napcorp on the ad campaign's social media pages." (06:41)
Unnamed Reporter on the effectiveness of Daisy:
"Daisy is designed to waste their time... Her schedule is wide open." (09:52 - 10:19)
The episode of The Headlines provides an in-depth analysis of several critical issues, from the precarious ceasefire in Lebanon and its regional implications to the strategic maneuvers of the plastics industry amidst global environmental negotiations. Additionally, it highlights significant societal trends during Thanksgiving and innovative approaches to combating phone scams. Through expert interviews and investigative reporting, The New York Times offers listeners a comprehensive overview of the day's most pressing stories.
For more detailed coverage and analysis, listen to the full episode on the New York Times Audio app or your preferred podcast platform.