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Tracy Mumford
From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Thursday, July 17th. Here's what we're covering on this vote. The yeas are 51. The nays are 48. The bill is amended as passed at the Capitol overnight, Republican senators voted to claw back billions of dollars of federal funding that Congress had already approved for public media and foreign aid. For lawmakers to override their own spending decision is extremely rare. This kind of vote hasn't passed in more than 25 years. But President Trump urged Republicans to make the cuts, and lawmakers in his party bowed to that pressure. Mr. President, this is a dark day for this chamber. Everyone here knows this is not how the Senate should function. Democratic senators sharply criticized the move, saying saying Congress was basically ceding one of its constitutional powers, the power of the purse. Historically, lawmakers have closely guarded their control of federal spending. GOP leaders, however, dismissed those concerns and said they were delivering on their promise to cut what they see as wasteful government spending. The vast majority of the bill's cuts will affect humanitarian programs overseas. It also rolls back funds for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which would deal a blow to npr, PBS and their local stations. The bill now goes to the House, which is expected to pass it quickly. Meanwhile, the White House says that moving forward, it intends to send Congress more requests like this that would slash funding lawmakers had previously approved. Now, two updates from the White House. The Times has learned that in the Oval Office this week, President Trump waved around a draft of a letter firing the chair of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, a move that even some inside his administration think could undermine confidence in the US Economy. Trump's been raging at Powell for months over the central bank's decision not to lower interest rates, claiming they're a drag on the economy and calling Powell a numbskull and a stubborn mule. The Fed has long acted independently of The White House. And by law, the chair can only be ousted for cause like gross misconduct. No president in modern American history has ever fired a Fed chair. For now, Trump says he has no plans to follow through on his threat. But today on the Daily, my colleague Colby Smith explains how the president, even just talking about it, is setting off alarm bells for economists and investors.
Colby Smith
I think it's a really worrying development and it's something that people are already grappling with today. The idea here is that a central bank that's independent is going to put the economy on the best footing possible because they're not worried about the whims of a political party. If you have someone leading the Fed who is being influenced by the White House, that really changes your perception about the decisions that that person is trying to usher through. And one investor I spoke to was like, I don't even know who the next Fed chair is and I already don't trust him.
Tracy Mumford
Also, he's dead, he's gone.
Jan Hoffman
And all it is is the Republicans.
Tracy Mumford
Certain Republicans got duped by the Democrats.
Jan Hoffman
And they're following a Democrat playbook.
Tracy Mumford
President Trump's trying a new strategy as he continues to face intense frustration over how his administration has handled the Jeffrey Epstein case. He's now blaming Democrats. Many in his base have been upset since the Justice Department announced it was closing the Epstein investigation without any new revelations, contrary to what some of Trump's allies had promised. According to a poll released yesterday, more than a third of Republicans disapprove of how the administration is handling the case. One GOP lawmaker told the Times she's been bombarded by angry constituents who are demanding more transparency. The outrage has Trump pulling out one of his go to moves, claiming it's all a Democratic smear campaign and a hoax on social media. Yesterday, he called his supporters who are upset over Epstein, quote, weaklings, and said he doesn't want their support anymore. In recent years, meth use has been spreading rapidly in the U.S. stumping health officials who are trying to fight it. Unlike opioid addiction, which can be treated with medication, there's nothing available like that for meth, which works differently on the brain. One doctor told the Times that to understand how powerful meth is, you have to think about dopamine, the feel good chemical in your brain. If the best day of your life puts your dopamine levels at 100 and using a drug like crack puts them at 300, on meth, your dopamine could skyrocket to a thousand. Stay there for hours, she said, quote no medication can safely compete with that. So addiction clinics across the country have been trying something else. They're paying people to stop using the drug.
Jan Hoffman
Usually a patient will come in twice a week and have their urine tested. If the urine tests negative for meth, they immediately get a reward. It could be a small amount on a debit card. It could be a gift card. It could be a voucher.
Tracy Mumford
Jan Hoffman covers addiction and health policy at the Times. She says the longer a patient stays clean, the more money they can earn over the course of a program, the rewards typically add up to about $600 total. And for a lot of people, it's working.
Jan Hoffman
The exhilaration that you get from essentially a very nice little pat on the back is something people look forward to. It gives them reason to pause for a moment before they take that hit of meth to think, wait, wait, wait. And that pause begins to build on itself, and people become slowly more used to hesitating before they get high to try to get that reward. The success rates of this program are really unusually good compared to other forms of treatment for meth addiction, such as counseling, such as cognitive behavioral therapy. Some of the studies show that the program or the strategy has a success rate of about 50% compared to, like, a typical success rate of 30%.
Tracy Mumford
Jan says that while the pay to stop strategy isn't new, for example, the VA has been using it for years. It's getting more and more traction. Hundreds of clinics are now offering it, insurance companies are beginning to cover it, and new telehealth apps are incorporating it to reach patients in rural areas. The federal government under President Biden also took steps to expand this kind of program, but Jan says it's unclear if that will continue under the Trump administration. And finally, the words Fyre Festival bring back all kinds of memories. Eight years ago, the world followed along as the music festival crumbled spectacularly. People were stranded on an island in the Bahamas. There was no music, soggy mattresses to sleep on, no way back home. It all looked a lot more FEMA than the luxury event that had been promised. The organizer, Billy McFarland, ended up serving nearly four years in prison for fraud. But McFarland was not done.
Jan Hoffman
I've done a lot of crazy things.
Tracy Mumford
But this might be the craziest thing yet. This week, he put the Fyre Festival branding rights up for sale on ebay. The listing promised Fire isn't just a name. It's a global attention engine. We are just under 24 hours in, and I am sorry to report that we are absolutely ripping. We've already had 101 bids. While McFarland was enthusiastic early on, bidding eventually topped out at $245,000, not quite what he'd hoped. This sucks, he reportedly said during a live stream of the sale. It's so low. And while I know we all have a lot of questions about what the buyer may be thinking, they remain unidentified for now. Ebay did note that the purchase is not eligible for the site's purchase protection programs. Those are the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. We'll be back tomorrow.
Podcast Summary: The Headlines
Episode: The Senate Surrenders on Spending, and Trump’s New Epstein Strategy
Host: Tracy Mumford
Release Date: July 17, 2025
Source: The New York Times
Overview:
In a rare and significant move, the Senate has amended and passed a bill to retract billions of dollars previously allocated for public media and foreign aid. The vote, which concluded with 51 yeas to 48 nays, marks the first time in over 25 years that lawmakers have overridden their own spending decisions.
Key Points:
Republican Strategy: Republican senators, influenced by President Trump’s pressure, decided to claw back funds deemed as wasteful. This includes reductions to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, impacting NPR, PBS, and local stations.
Democratic Response: Democratic senators condemned the action, arguing that it signifies Congress relinquishing one of its fundamental constitutional powers — the power of the purse. They emphasized the historical precedence of protecting federal spending controls.
House and Future Implications: The amended bill is now poised to swiftly pass the House. The White House has signaled an intent to continue proposing similar funding cuts in the future.
Notable Quotes:
Overview:
President Trump has publicly expressed frustration with Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, even considering the unprecedented step of firing him due to disagreements over interest rate policies.
Key Points:
Presidential Frustration: Trump has criticized Powell for not lowering interest rates, labeling him as "a numbskull" and "a stubborn mule." This tension highlights the strained relationship between the White House and the Fed.
Implications for the Economy: Such statements have raised concerns among economists and investors about the potential erosion of the Fed’s independence, which is crucial for maintaining economic stability.
Administration’s Position: While Trump has discussed the possibility of removing Powell, he has currently stated he has no immediate plans to take action.
Notable Quotes:
Overview:
Facing backlash over the handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, President Trump is pivoting his strategy by deflecting blame onto Democrats, amidst growing dissatisfaction within his Republican base.
Key Points:
Public Dissatisfaction: A recent poll indicates that over a third of Republicans disapprove of the administration’s approach to the Epstein investigation. Constituents are demanding greater transparency.
Trump’s Response: In response to the criticism, Trump has labeled his upset supporters as "weaklings" and dismissed their concerns as part of a "Democratic smear campaign" and "hoax on social media."
Political Ramifications: This strategy represents a shift as Trump attempts to maintain support by redirecting frustration toward political adversaries rather than addressing the concerns directly.
Notable Quotes:
Overview:
Methamphetamine addiction poses a significant challenge in the U.S., prompting healthcare professionals to explore unconventional treatment methods beyond traditional therapies.
Key Points:
Meth’s Impact: Meth dramatically increases dopamine levels, making addiction particularly severe as it creates an intense feeling of pleasure that is difficult to counteract with existing treatments.
Pay-to-Quit Programs: Clinics across the nation are implementing reward-based programs where patients receive financial incentives for negative drug tests. Rewards can include debit cards, gift cards, or vouchers.
Effectiveness: These programs have shown promising success rates, with some studies indicating a 50% success rate compared to the typical 30% from standard treatments like cognitive behavioral therapy.
Expansion and Adoption: The strategy, initially utilized by the VA, is gaining traction with hundreds of clinics adopting it. Insurance coverage is expanding, and telehealth applications are making the program accessible to rural areas. However, future support under the Trump administration remains uncertain.
Notable Quotes:
Overview:
Billy McFarland, the convicted fraudster behind the infamous Fyre Festival fiasco, has made headlines again by attempting to sell the festival’s branding rights on eBay.
Key Points:
Sale Details: McFarland listed the Fyre Festival brand on eBay, promoting it as a "global attention engine." The auction saw rapid activity with 101 bids within the first 24 hours.
Outcome: Despite initial enthusiasm, the highest bid reached only $245,000, falling short of expectations. McFarland publicly expressed disappointment during a live stream, stating, "It's so low."
Buyer Status: The purchaser of the branding rights remains anonymous, and eBay has clarified that the transaction is not covered by the site’s purchase protection programs.
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion:
This episode of The Headlines delves into significant political maneuvers within the Senate, President Trump’s contentious relationship with the Federal Reserve and his shifting strategies amidst public scrutiny, innovative approaches to combating meth addiction, and the ongoing saga of Billy McFarland and the Fyre Festival. Through insightful analysis and expert commentary, the podcast provides listeners with a comprehensive understanding of these multifaceted issues.