406: Creating Simple Home Systems for More Time with Your Family as a Work from Home Mom with KyAnn Molina

Summary

Episode 406: Creating Simple Home Systems for More Time with Your Family as a Work-from-Home Mom with Cayenne Molina

In Episode 406 of The Heart & Hustle Podcast, hosts Evie McLeod and Lindsey Roman engage in an enlightening conversation with Cayenne Molina, a passionate wife, mother of three young children, and host of the top 1% globally ranked podcast, Simple Rhythms for Busy Moms. This episode delves deep into the challenges and triumphs of balancing entrepreneurship with motherhood, offering practical tools and heartfelt insights for work-from-home moms striving to create harmonious and intentional daily routines.

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1. Introducing Cayenne Molina

Evie McLeod and Lindsey Roman warmly welcome Cayenne Molina, highlighting her multifaceted life as a wife, mother, and entrepreneur. Cayenne's mission revolves around helping busy moms establish intentional daily rhythms and systems to achieve balance in both their professional and personal lives, all while fostering a strong identity rooted in Christ rather than mere to-do lists.

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2. Cayenne’s Personal Journey

Cayenne opens up about her arduous journey, sharing personal struggles that shaped her path. She discusses battling infertility for three years, experiencing postpartum depression after her second child, and enduring chronic hyperemesis during her pregnancies. These challenges were compounded by the chaos of managing a successful wedding photography and clay earring business, which inadvertently spiraled into a workaholic lifestyle that prioritized business over family and personal well-being.

Key Quote:

“[07:19] Cayenne Molina: If I'm putting anything as a higher priority in my days or my habits or whatever than the Lord, it's not worth it.”

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3. The Turning Point: From Chaos to Control

A particularly chaotic morning became the catalyst for Cayenne’s transformation. Juggling a crying baby, a demanding toddler, and an overflowing sink epitomized the chronic overwhelm she felt, prompting her to seek change. This pivotal moment led her to explore the concept of daily rhythms, recognizing that small, intentional shifts could significantly enhance her quality of life.

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Key Insight:

“[11:27] Cayenne Molina: Something has to change. Like, I need to rework all of these habits that I have just happened unintentionally.”

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4. Common Mistakes in Establishing Rhythms

Cayenne identifies two primary mistakes that busy moms often make:

1. Going All In: Attempting to implement too many changes simultaneously, leading to paralysis and increased overwhelm.
2. Neglecting Small Shifts: Undervaluing the power of incremental changes, which cumulatively lead to significant improvements over time.

Key Quote:

“[14:35] Cayenne Molina: Success is found in mastering the mundane.”

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5. Practical Starting Points for Creating Rhythms

Presence:

• Phone Management: Place phones in a drawer for an hour at the beginning and end of the day to minimize distractions and free mental space.

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  Quote:

  “[16:54] Cayenne Molina: Putting my phone in a drawer for an hour at the beginning and the end of the day. That was really, really huge for me.”

• Focused Time with Kids: Dedicate at least 15 minutes of undistracted, intentional time daily with each child to foster connection and presence.

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  “[16:54] Cayenne Molina: Making it a priority to spend 15 minutes of fully focused, intentional time with my kids every day.”

• Waking Up Before Kids: Rise earlier to enjoy personal or quiet time before the children wake, setting a peaceful tone for the day.

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  “[16:54] Cayenne Molina: Prioritizing waking up before your kids to set yourself up for the day.”

Productivity:

• Planning the Day: Start each day by praying for wisdom and discernment to prioritize tasks. Brain dump all tasks into a list, identify the top three priorities, and schedule work blocks on the calendar.

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  Quote:

  “[28:05] Cayenne Molina: Writing out daily to-do lists with the top three priorities helps prevent paralysis.”

• Scheduled Rest: Allocate specific times for work and rest to maintain a balanced and sustainable routine.

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  “[30:55] Cayenne Molina: Scheduling work blocks ensures productivity while setting aside rest preserves well-being.”

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6. Balancing Household Tasks During Nap Time

Cayenne addresses the common dilemma of choosing between working or tidying up during children’s nap times. She introduces the concept of "tidy anchor points," which are small, dedicated times to reset the household before and after nap periods. This approach allows uninterrupted work time while maintaining a semblance of household order.

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Key Quote:

“[36:11] Cayenne Molina: Having tidy anchor points throughout the day helps reset the house without taking away from work time.”

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7. Adapting Rhythms to Seasonal Changes

Recognizing that life is dynamic, Cayenne emphasizes the importance of adapting rhythms based on seasonal needs, such as varying homesteading tasks or shifting homeschooling demands. Flexibility is key to maintaining balance amidst ever-changing circumstances.

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Quote:

“[39:00] Cayenne Molina: Rhythms may shift based on seasons, requiring adaptability to maintain balance.”

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8. Influential Books and Core Lessons Learned

Cayenne shares her favorite books that have significantly influenced her journey:

• "Psychology of Winning" by Dennis Whitely: A concise read packed with actionable strategies.

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  “[42:43] Cayenne Molina: Psychology of Winning by Dennis Whitely. So many action items in that.”

• "Persuade for Good" by Macy McNeely and Catherine Schubert: A collaborative effort offering valuable insights.

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  Key Learning:

  “[43:56] Cayenne Molina: If I'm putting anything as a higher priority in my days... than the Lord, it's not worth it.”

Her overarching lesson underscores the primacy of faith over business, highlighting that true fulfillment and success stem from aligning daily priorities with spiritual values rather than the relentless pursuit of professional goals.

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9. Conclusion and Ways to Connect

As the episode wraps up, Cayenne invites listeners to engage further through her podcast, Simple Rhythms for Busy Moms, and her free Facebook community. She offers resources like a morning routine guide and hosts regular challenges to help moms implement and maintain the rhythms and systems discussed.

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Key Quote:

“[47:08] Cayenne Molina: Find me on my podcast or join my free Facebook group to receive resources like my morning routine guide.”

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Notable Quotes

• On Prioritizing Faith:

  “[07:19] Cayenne Molina: If I'm putting anything as a higher priority in my days or my habits or whatever than the Lord, it's not worth it.”

• On Mastering the Mundane:

  “[14:35] Cayenne Molina: Success is found in mastering the mundane.”

• On Planning and Prayer:

  “[28:05] Cayenne Molina: Writing out daily to-do lists with the top three priorities helps prevent paralysis.”

• On Surrendering to Faith:

  “[43:56] Cayenne Molina: If I'm putting anything as a higher priority in my days... than the Lord, it's not worth it.”

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers a treasure trove of insights for work-from-home moms juggling the demands of entrepreneurship and family life. Through her candid storytelling and actionable advice, Cayenne Molina illustrates the transformative power of small, intentional rhythms in fostering a balanced, fulfilling, and faith-centered life.

For moms seeking to reclaim their time, enhance productivity, and cultivate meaningful family connections, this episode serves as both an inspiration and a practical guide.

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Connect with Cayenne Molina:

• Podcast: Simple Rhythms for Busy Moms – Available on all major podcast platforms.
• Facebook Community: bit.ly/simplerhythmscommunity
• Morning Routine Guide: Available for download within her Facebook group.

Transcript

[Evie McLeod]

You're listening to the Heart and Hustle podcast. We are your hosts, Evie McLeod and Lindsay Roman. Welcome back to the show, friend. We are so excited every time we get to sit down and just chat through life and business with you. And today's conversation is going to be so freaking good. You're going to want to buckle up for this. If you are a mom, a want to be mom, or just curious about the life of a mom as a work from home mother, an entrepreneur, a mom, all the things you want to listen to this episode.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah. So today we have the honor of talking to Cayenne Molina. She is a wife, mom of three kids, 4 and under, and the host of the top 1% globally ranked podcast, Simple Rhythms for Busy Moms. And Cayenne helps busy moms create intentional daily rhythms and systems to help them feel balanced and managing motherhood and homemaking. She is a passion or she's passionate about helping moms calm the chaos and grow in finding their identity in Christ, not their to do list, which, yes, so good. Amen to that. And when she's not coaching moms to help them slow down and simplify, you can find her sipping on iced coffee pretty much any time of the year. And so our conversation with Kai Ann was just a godsend. If you, like Evie said, are a mom and a business owner and are trying to figure out how the heck those two fit together, this is for you.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah.

[Evie McLeod]

So today we talked with Kian about her journey and kind of discovering how to simplify, to find rhythms and balance and just make life, honestly, a lot more enjoyable. So her journey in that and then a lot of practical tips of what does a rhythm look like? What does it do? How does it impact your life? What are some starting rhythms that every single one of us listening to this episode could start to take away? Um, honestly, I think whether you're a mom or not, you'll get a lot from this. And then we go into kind of like some of the mistakes that are being made and how to juggle even like the time management, the task management to do, lists, systems, rhythms. There is so much in this episode that you are going to get. So I would bring pen and paper.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yep.

[Evie McLeod]

And a open ear, ready to listen to all of the goodness that Cayenne's going to give us today.

[Lindsay Roman]

This is Lindsay. I want to share a vulnerable moment with you. Years ago, before I launched my first preset pack, something that genuinely held me back from doing it for way too long was the technical backend of how to do it like I know we all know that E commerce is a brilliant way to grow and diversify our business. But you know, whether you're a photographer wanting to sell presets like me, or a hormone health coach wanting to sell cookbooks, or honestly, literally anybody wanting to sell a physical or digital product online, knowing what platform to sell on is huge, right? So that's why when I started first selling my presets, I went with the obvious choice. Shopify. Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. And so whether you're selling shipping supplies or promoting productivity programs, Shopify helps you sell everywhere from their all in one e commerce platform to their in person POS system. Wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. Shopify even helps you turn browsers into buyers with the Internet's best converting checkout up to 36% better compared to other leading commerce platforms. And quick story, last fall I had been wanting to incorporate a membership subscription into my business for women to sign up and be a part of my insiders membership group. And I almost didn't do it purely because I didn't want to buy another program to process the subscription payments. And that's when I realized, wait, wait, wait. I use Shopify for my presets. Can they do subscriptions too? And what do you know? With Shopify's endless list of integrations and third party apps, anything you can think of, from chatbots to subscriptions? Yes, they have everything you need to revolutionize your business. My subscription problems were solved with the brilliance that is Shopify. So sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.comheart all lowercase go to shopify.comheart now to grow your business no matter what stage you're in. Shopify.com heart hey hey. I'm Lindsay Roman.

[Evie McLeod]

And I'm Evie McLeod and we are family and legacy focused serial entrepreneurs and the founders of the Heart University, a business education company with a mission to help you thrive in your business and life.

[Lindsay Roman]

Welcome to our Entrepreneur Cocktail hour where business and marketing strategies meet faith, real talk and raw and life changing conversations.

[Evie McLeod]

At the end of the day, we are all in this together figuring out how to navigate the ups and downs, the messy and the beautiful and everything in between. This is a community where you can come as you are, get inspired and walk away equipped to build a legacy filled life.

[Lindsay Roman]

You're listening to the Heart and Hustle podcast. Hi Ann. Welcome to the Heart and Hustle podcast. We are stoked to welcome you to the show today.

[Cayenne Molina]

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. It's so fun to talk to you guys in, like, real life.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yes. Well, we love a good girl chat, and this is going to be the best girl chat ever. A lot of our listeners are moms, and even if they are not moms, they are. They might be moms to be or want to be moms. And so this conversation is just so needed. And, uh, just we. I feel like business, motherhood, they just go together a lot of times in our world. In our world, yes. For our listeners world. So you are the perfect person to have on the show.

[Evie McLeod]

Yeah.

[Cayenne Molina]

I'm so excited for this. This is going to be such a good conversation.

[Evie McLeod]

Yes. We're eager. So. All right, Cayenne, are you willing to just kind of start us off with a little bit about, like, your story and a little bit about yourself for our listeners to kind of be like. All right, here's who I'm learning from chatting with today.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah, absolutely. So I'm Kyan. I am a wife to my husband Matt. We have been married for nine years now, and we have three kiddos, currently four and under. So we struggled with infertility for three years at the beginning of our marriage. And then kind of just a wild turn of events, the Lord blessed us with three kids in three years. And so our life is very much kind of in the trenches of the little years and a little chaotic some days. Many days. But also, like, we're so grateful, obviously, for every bit of it. And then I am also a podcaster. So in my work now, I help work from home. Moms find routine in their days and implement intentional daily rhythms to both get more done and be more productive, but also still be present with their family, kind of that balance of both. So we just started homeschooling, and we homestead a little bit on a quarter acre.

[Lindsay Roman]

Oh, my God.

[Cayenne Molina]

We do a lot of things. So that's how my days currently this is.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah. It literally is going to be just us hammering you with questions, selfishly.

[Evie McLeod]

Yeah. Forget our listeners.

[Cayenne Molina]

We're.

[Evie McLeod]

We're here to learn for us.

[Lindsay Roman]

I mean, I just. Yeah, I want to pick your brain on every single thing. So that's great that you're here. It's perfect. Um, wait, what are the age gaps for your children? You said four under three. No, three under three.

[Cayenne Molina]

Under three. Four and under. Yeah. So my oldest is four. She'll be five in a few months. And then I have a three and a Half year old. And my baby is a little over a year and a half. I think she's like 20 months now. I don't know. You have three kids too. Do you forget how many months?

[Lindsay Roman]

The age gap, I feel like, is actually very similar to my children because I have a five year old, a three year old, and then 18 months. So very similar.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah, very close.

[Lindsay Roman]

Okay, that's awesome. I want to hammer you with questions. Okay. But before I guess we get into like, the nitty gritty of it all, what brought you to kind of educate others and like, be interested in the topic of, like, let's develop systems for busy moms. Like, obviously you're in the thick of it, so that's probably what. But I would just love to hear kind of the journey that brought you to kind of what you're doing today.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah, for sure. Okay. To go back a few years. This is kind of where this all started. It's always a background story, but I struggled with postpartum depression after having my second baby. So my first two are 16 months apart. And obviously I shared. We struggled with infertility. We were not expecting to get pregnant. I think I was seven months postpartum when I found out I was pregnant. And another piece of my story is I have hyperemesis in all of my pregnancies. So I spend every other day for almost the entire length of my pregnancy in the hospital for about four hours getting infusions just to survive and function. And so I think it was a lot of different pieces, obviously that kind of came together. I realized I'm struggling with postpartum depression. But also I think that really woke me up to the realization that I had accepted a lot of chaos in motherhood as normal up until that point. And so we were entrepreneurs. I have always been an entrepreneur. My husband and I were wedding photographers. We traveled around the world doing that. So that's how I originally found you guys. I mean, like 2016, 2017. So probably.

[Evie McLeod]

Oh my goodness, you're an OG.

[Cayenne Molina]

When you guys started growing on Instagram and stuff, I'm guessing was around that time.

[Evie McLeod]

Yeah.

[Cayenne Molina]

And then we had an accidental clay earring business. So very random story, but I don't even have my ears pierced. So this was meant to be a hobby to give me boundaries from my. My wedding photography business and help me rest. And it turned into a business that literally sold out our first launch and was a full time income. That first launch had launches every two weeks.

[Evie McLeod]

My God, isn't that like the story.

[Lindsay Roman]

Of entrepreneurship that you Just like, you're like, I just need a rest. I need a hobby to get away from my like drudge that is like my full time business. And then like, psych.

[Evie McLeod]

This that's become successful story of like multi passionate entrepreneurs too is you're like, I need a hobby that I don't monetize.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yes, that was the goal.

[Evie McLeod]

And then you monetize it.

[Cayenne Molina]

Oh, my husband made fun of me so much, guys. You don't. He makes fun of me as he should.

[Evie McLeod]

I mean, that's just prime like, like material right there. Just waiting.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yes, yes. So, yeah, we had a successful business on the outside. Things really seemed great on the outside, but I think behind the scenes everything was kind of a hot mess. We were really struggling with balance. I loved what I did, as a lot of us do. And so I, I fell into some workaholic tendencies and just putting business above everything else. And even like simple routines behind the scenes, like not having the right ingredients when I go to make dinner to cook from scratch, I don't have what I need. So we end up eating out way more often. Like all of these little pieces that just really.

[Lindsay Roman]

That spoke to me.

[Cayenne Molina]

I have, I was talking to a friend this morning, so I have like kind of a mourning in my brain because I just shared this with her and.

[Evie McLeod]

Right.

[Cayenne Molina]

I had two kids under two for the first time, like I'm talking about. And I woke up with a baby crying because that's how I woke up every morning in that season of my life. Baby and toddler both crying at the same time. I'm literally trying to nurse the baby while I'm walking down the hallway to the kitchen to get the toddler breakfast. I get in there and the counter is just covered in dishes from last night that I didn't get put away. And my toddler, as I'm trying to wash one bowl with like the one hand that I have available while I'm literally trying to feed my other baby, I look over and the toddler is pulling a bowl of leftover spaghetti. That is probably why this is ingrained in my brain, off of the table. And it just flies everywhere, like, everywhere. And so obviously at that moment, like we're all screaming and crying like it just was kind of that trigger point of like I was living in chronic overwhelm all the time. But then there would be these trigger moments where it's like, okay, this is just way too much and I just lose it. And although this is a specific morning that I remember, that was not a one time Occurrence. Like, obviously, I'm not proud to say that, but that really was something that happened in my life. And so I think with the postpartum depression, that was the trigger point of, like, something has to change. Like, I need to re. Work all of these habits that I have just happened unintentionally. Like, they just are there. It's not intentionally set up. And that's really when I came across the idea of rhythms and just kind of went all in. So I'm sure there's more to share from there, but that's kind of.

[Evie McLeod]

I love it.

[Cayenne Molina]

The basis.

[Evie McLeod]

I love that.

[Lindsay Roman]

Wow. I'm. I'm also being triggered because this. Literally this morning for breakfast, I fed my. My children yogurt, which was fine, but then Eloise, my oldest, doesn't really. She's in a season of, like, I'm not really digging yogur. So she took, like, the, like, leftover spaghetti noodles from the fridge and just decided that that was her breakfast this morning. So your story is really, like, settling with me. I'm like, oh, spaghetti.

[Cayenne Molina]

You get it?

[Lindsay Roman]

Yes, I get it. I definitely get the overwhelm of just, like, life being chaotic. So I am so excited to talk with you just about that. So that's kind of what got you into, like, okay, something needs to change. Something. Like, I need rhythms in my life. How did you start that? Like, where was your first. Like, where. How did you even begin to, like, go from chaos to, like, systematized or, like, having any sort of rhythm?

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah. Oh, man. It was a process for sure. I think when I came across the idea of rhythms, that really spoke to me. Just the whole idea that for me, rhythms give us, like, a loose structure and framework to go through each day to really make sure that those important things are happening regularly without having to consciously decide every single task. And so my brain at that point and still sometimes I'm not. Like, there are still days I get overwhelmed. Obviously, we're not trying to eliminate over. I mean, I wish I could eliminate overwhelm, but really, it's like that chronic overwhelm where you're overwhelmed more than you're not. But my brain would be like an Open Browser with 50 tabs open at the same time, all trying to load. And then you get that, like, spinny wheel of death, you know, where nothing is happening. It's all frozen. And that's what my brain felt like is I would just get to this point where I was paralyzed. I didn't even know where to start. So sharing my journey, I think it was really just one step at a time. These little small shifts over time that really add up. And just I think first was the idea that you have to come to this place to realize, I don't want to keep living this way. Like, there's a quote by. I think it's Annie Dillard that says how you live your days is how you live your life. And so that really hit me of these big picture priorities that I have of living out my faith live. You know, I want to have a business, but I don't want my kids to think my business comes first. I have to actually do the work to set up my days to reflect that. And I can't just keep going like this. So honestly, I think the first step was deciding that motherhood does not have to be this way. We have a lot more control to make changes than we think we do. And it starts really, really small.

[Evie McLeod]

Yeah, I would love to hear. Because this is, like, so good. And I think our listeners are probably actively here, like, all right, starting to take notes, pulling out the notebooks, like, ready? Um, what are some of the small, like, starting points that you would recommend? And maybe that, I guess on the flip side, what are, like, the common mistakes or struggles that you're seeing that you could immediately be like, here's some small starting points of, like, areas where you could start shifting.

[Cayenne Molina]

So do we start with the mistakes or do we start with the starting points? That's the question.

[Evie McLeod]

We'll start with mistakes. Because I feel like that that's helpful to, like, help self identify of, like, oh, yes, I am there. I'm feeling this.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah. Okay. So first, I think the number one thing that I hear from people is going all in or that I. People doing is going all in and doing too much at once. This is my natural inclination and everything. And I think maybe it's like an entrepreneur thing, too. Like, we are very. We're just all in. We're all or nothing. A lot of us, at least. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think when you get to this spot, you're like, oh, my gosh, I need to burn the entire thing down and start over. And. Which may be, like, there may be a lot of work that needs to happen, but if we do it all at the same time, you're just coming back to that. That spinning wheel of death where you don't get anything accomplished because you're just paralyzed. So that's the number one thing that I see. And then kind of hand in hand with that is not prioritizing those Small shifts. Because I think our brain tries to tell us, like, this isn't, I don't know, like this isn't sexy. This is not going to make that big of a difference. It's too small to actually add up to all the overwhelming chaos that I have in my life. And I think that's been kind of rewiring my brain over the past few years, that there's a quote that says, success is found in mastering the mundane. And I was listening to a podcast, I don't know, last week or something on Simone Biles. And so obviously we know who she is. She has 11 Olympic medals. I didn't know how many, but I learned in the podcast, episode 11. That's a lot. And so she's like one of the greatest Olympians of all time. And she was talking about the power of slow progress over time in this article. Like, she was talking about how she had to master a new gymnastics move. I don't remember what it was, I'm not a gymnast. But she needed more practice time in order to do that. So she had to go from, I think it was 20 hours a week to like 30 some. And so she went incrementally from like 20, 20, 24, 28, 32, et cetera. And she was talking about how the number one thing that has made the biggest impact in her career were always those small shifts over time. And that's what I mean. If you look at successful business owners, anyone who has even like lost a ton of weight, et cetera, these people that have had massive success, it's not the big life changing move. It's those small habits that built over time. And I think you kind of have to accept that it feels so much smaller in the moment of like, there's no way that this one little shift is going to make a big difference and embrace the process of that.

[Evie McLeod]

I love that.

[Lindsay Roman]

Okay, so what are some small shifts that you then did to go from.

[Evie McLeod]

Like that chaotic or that you coach or recommend?

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah.

[Cayenne Molina]

Okay, so I'm going to talk about. I think it's always hard for me to narrow in on where exactly to start, because it is a little bit specific on each person and like figuring out where the root of their overwhelm is. But I think in general, I'm going to talk first on the presence piece because I kind of go between presence and productivity. So if we talk about the presence piece, a few starting steps with that one, putting my phone in a drawer for an hour at the beginning and the end of the day. That was really, really huge for me because when you're trying to create more margin in your day, when you are not starting the day with notifications and scrolling social media and, you know, emails about this thing that a client needs or whatever, this alone helps free up so much mental space and capacity to allow you to be more present again. It sounds small, but man, it makes, it makes a big difference. And as entrepreneurs that have social media and all the things to run our businesses, it can get very easy to be tied to that where it's the first thing you look at when you get out of bed. So that's a really practical one. The next one was making it a priority to spend 15 minutes of focused, like fully focused, intentional time with my kids every day. And this is one that whenever I talk about this, it sounds almost trivial of like 15 minutes, like that's not that long. But those of us that have no. So I do it together. I do it together. Yeah. If we spend the whole day with our kids, if we're staying home so many days, you can spend the whole day, but not actually looking in their eyes, connecting with them, seeing how they're doing. And so what I practically do for this, I do it with all of them together. And I rotate basically between who gets to choose what we do. We just go throughout the days. Now, my 20 month old doesn't really have that many preferences most of the time, but you know, this will grow as they get older, obviously. So it varies on how we spend. It could be reading books, it could be going on a walk, it could be playing their favorite game, doing a craft. My oldest loves crafts. So often it's something with crafts they get to pick that. And then we have 15 minutes. Now this may often it's longer than 15 minutes because once you're there and you're fully focused, it can turn into more time. And that's great. But even just putting that literally on my to do list of like 15 minutes of focus time with my kids helped my brain to almost like have it on my calendar. You know, like you have your work things on the calendar. Let's make sure that this is happening. And then the last thing I would mention as a starting step is waking up before your kids. And this is one that I always. I know it's a hard one to swallow, especially if you're like, kids aren't sleeping through the night and things like that, but waking up with little people either tugging at you or screaming for you and everyone needing you at the same time, that was Setting me up for a day of just overwhelm and stress, feeling like I'm in fight or flight, you know, before your heat feet even hit the floor. So prioritizing at least a little bit of time. It doesn't have to be two hours. That's the thing is I think we think it has to be these huge blocks. Start with like 5 to 10 minutes, 15 minutes. Start with something really small that is attainable to just. You can go get a coffee, drink your coffee in peace, have your quiet time, pray, like whatever you need to do to really set the day up. Right. So I actually have a morning routine guide in my Facebook community that goes over all of this, even if you're not sleeping through the night. Because I just believe it's really that powerful to start the day with that piece first. So now I've rambled on for a little bit. Do you want to hear the productivity side? I have one thing for that. So.

[Lindsay Roman]

Oh my gosh. We want to hear.

[Evie McLeod]

We want to hear it all.

[Lindsay Roman]

Before you get to that, I just wanted to say I resonate so wholeheartedly with the wake up. There has been a very long season of my not long, but just like a good season of my life where I was almost letting the children be the alarm.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yes.

[Lindsay Roman]

And like it. You're just everything reiterating everything that you just said, like praise hands. Because that it is so true. It just sets you up for such just messiness and chaos throughout the entire day. Whereas if you even just like you said, I love that you said even like five to 10 minutes. It doesn't have to be long. Can just set you up for such clarity and give you like even selfishly just that time alone that you can have before someone needs you. I just love. I love what you said. So continue.

[Evie McLeod]

Well, there's also something that I think you guys, I'm pretty sure you guys still do it and a couple other families that I know do it. And I've just observed as someone who's like kids someday. And I'm like, I love this. And I can see the impact it has of like, don't you guys have your girls obviously when they're not like infant in the bassinet beside you, but like when they're older in their own room. Don't you have like, they can't come out until you guys come and get them in the morning?

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah, we do. This is a little easier said than done sometimes. Yeah. Like, but. But we reinforce it so normally, like even if I'm waking up they'll start chattering.

[Evie McLeod]

Yeah, they're allowed to play and hang out and like do what they want.

[Lindsay Roman]

The issue is that Jo's in there. She's the 18 month old, so she's just in the crib like chilling like peace while they play around her.

[Evie McLeod]

And she wants to get out and play with them.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yes.

[Cayenne Molina]

Do you have them all in the same room?

[Lindsay Roman]

I do.

[Cayenne Molina]

So do I. Oh my gosh. I never find friends that have all three in there.

[Lindsay Roman]

Well, and so like what happens often is Eloise and Anna, my two oldest, will just like start playing with dress up clothes or whatever and she'll just be vibing in the crib, being like, I'm here, give me a toy. And it kind of works, but sometimes I'll go in there and get her out so that she can interact. But usually if I do that.

[Evie McLeod]

She wants you.

[Lindsay Roman]

Well, they want. They are like, oh, you're here, time to get out. And I'm like, no, no, no, Psych. Just because I came in, that does not mean. So there was an element that's giving.

[Evie McLeod]

You more freedom within this room?

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah, within this room. But yeah, I do that. I have, I'm trying to think of if there is there like a thing out there that's like. I think the Beth keys do this. I could be totally making this up, but like almost we're trying to find something to basically actively be like an alarm.

[Evie McLeod]

Okay, wait, I was going to hatch alarm clock.

[Cayenne Molina]

That's what we have. Yes. Is that what you.

[Lindsay Roman]

No, I don't have it. I just. We just reinforce it with our words. If they come out, we're just like, you'll get time out if you come out again.

[Cayenne Molina]

Okay. Okay. So are you gonna say, I've heard.

[Evie McLeod]

Parents use the hatch alarm clock, but.

[Lindsay Roman]

Is it the light up one?

[Evie McLeod]

But a friend of mine, my sister, my sister in law uses the. I think it's the full sized yodo and it has a light on it and she can manually change the color of the light from. I think that's what it is.

[Lindsay Roman]

Literally today I added the mini one to our Amazon cart to buy for the girls for Christmas. And I literally today, I think it's the Yodo. I literally today read a blog on do I do the full size mode yodo or the mini size?

[Cayenne Molina]

And I was like, now you need the full size?

[Lindsay Roman]

Well, I was like, mini is more portable so I put the mini one in my car.

[Evie McLeod]

Well, the full size one was still really like, it wasn't like massive.

[Lindsay Roman]

Okay.

[Evie McLeod]

I don't know, I think that's what she uses. But I'm sure the hatch alarm clock probably does something similar where, like, you can turn off, turn on the light or change the light or whatever. Like the girls. My niece says, no, like, it's time.

[Lindsay Roman]

To turn on a light at like 8.

[Evie McLeod]

Yeah. I think the light you can program is on or changes or something. Yeah.

[Lindsay Roman]

We wanted the hatch it to like, start playing music at a certain time. I don't know if there's something.

[Cayenne Molina]

That's what the hatch does. You can put the settings on. It's a sound machine. So we use it as a sound machine. That's what you use it? Yeah, that's what we use. You can change the color and the sound on one aspect. See?

[Evie McLeod]

But I feel like that's the stuff even, like, because from. As someone who currently does not actively have young kids, and you're like, wake up before your kids. And I'm like, okay, but what if your kids are ranging? Like, they're. They're not always waking up at the same time or like, different things. And I have observed from, like, friends and you guys, I'm like, I've seen that work really well for a lot of families where it's like, you can wake up at whatever time your body wakes you up, which usually for young kids is very consistent, but sometimes it's not. And you're like, you can wake up and hang out and play and have your own little quiet time.

[Lindsay Roman]

You just have to enforce it. Because if Andrew's better than my husband at enforcing this than I am. So if he is out working out with her husband that you go to work out together, he'll wake up or, sorry, the girls will wake up and then just come out and come get me whether I'm awake or not. And I'll be like, no, go back to your room. But I am not the best at enforcing it. And so, like, if Andrew's home, he'll be like, go back to your room. If you come out again, you'll get timeout. And they'll be like, okay, sir. Like, just like. But it's like, they'll. They'll be trained. If you. If you enforce, like, no, stay in your room. You can play.

[Evie McLeod]

It's like you're giving them a boundary, but you have to uphold the boundary or it won't work.

[Lindsay Roman]

But that's why I've liked having something. So you use the hatch. I need it.

[Cayenne Molina]

We use it for quiet time as well. Because, like, our oldest doesn't nap anymore. But we still do quiet time.

[Lindsay Roman]

So you can wait. You can program like morning, like 8am yeah.

[Cayenne Molina]

Whatever time you want. So it'll come back on like it comes on automatically. My kids get up at 8am Which I know is later than a lot of kids, but that's just what they do. Same. And so it'll come on then for when they can come out. And then in the afternoon after nap time, you can set it for the same like whatever time. 3pm, 4pm, whatever time.

[Lindsay Roman]

Here's my issue. Sometimes they'll sleep longer.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Roman]

And I don't want to wake them up in the afternoon because I'm like, wow, I'm getting a luxury of four hours today. Maybe not four. That's a aggressive but like three and if I set it, it would wake them up. Okay, that's.

[Evie McLeod]

Can you manually on something like the hat. Is there like an app where you can manually like, like be like I hear them moving. Let me turn it on. Now you can.

[Cayenne Molina]

It's a. It'll. I think it goes off and then comes back on. So we just set ours later. And what actually ended up happening is then they had more independent playtime at the end in their room because they were trained to that. So that's kind of how we got around because we had that same thing.

[Lindsay Roman]

So amazing. Okay. We just deep dived so hard. I want to hear about the productivity.

[Evie McLeod]

The productivity like rhythm.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yes.

[Evie McLeod]

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[Cayenne Molina]

Back. Yeah, I forgot what we were talking about, to be honest.

[Evie McLeod]

But yes, we love.

[Cayenne Molina]

The first starting step I would say with that is because I'm really big on giving people practicals that they can actually like, walk away and apply. I think planning your days is one of the best things to start with because if you fail the plan, you plan to fail honestly. And so I have a whole framework I teach in my course to give you a specific strategy on how to plan your days effectively, to be productive but also still be flexible when things inevitably do not go as planned, because that happens. But kind of like a high level overview is 1. This is a starting step is starting your day praying for wisdom to know what is top priority for that day and discernment to set the rest aside. Because that's so good. I feel like probably most of us listening to this are high achieving entrepreneurs that want to get as much done as possible. And so it can be very easy to put 500 million things on your to do list and then inevitably someone gets sick or something else happens and you're like, oh my gosh, I don't know how I'm going to finish all of this, right? And so that when I started praying literally through that every single day of like, lord, you have given me this day, you know, my capacity, you know what is going to happen for this day and that may be different than my to do list. So please just help me to know, like have the discernment to know it's okay if I don't finish this. That has Helped just very practically a lot in my own expectations. But then as far as setting up the to do list. So I really recommend writing out first because one of the problems with Overwhelm is we hold everything in our brain. So literally, like, get a note on your phone. If you don't have a system, if you want to write it out, whatever you want to do, and brain dump first, all the things that come to mind, then you're going to go back through it and you're going to be realistic and you're going to look at how many things do I feel like I can actually accomplish today? Now, this is something I think grows as you do it, we learn how much our capacity actually is. So you're going to get better as you go, but really try to be realistic as far as, like, I cannot do 700 things today. So those extra items move to, like, a brain dump list in your phone. Literally, just start a note in your phone with a brain dump list. So that's there. You haven't forgotten it. You can come back to it and then come back to your daily to do list. And then at the start of the note, I like to put top three. So you can have a separated top three and then the rest underneath it and focus on the top three. Like, if I can only get three, three, three things done, what is that going to be today? And write those out. This, like, making a list and physically writing it out helps your brain so that you're not wasting so much time thinking through, okay, I finally have time to accomplish something. My kids are playing. Whatever. I don't even know what to do now. And that's when we hit that paralyzing feeling of or even spending that all the time we had trying to remember what we need to do. And once you get started, the time's over, you know, and we've moved on. Um, so I recommend doing this the night before. I think that that's really key to set yourself up well. And making it realistic also helps give your brain that Dopam dopamine hit that you're finding success. You can be consistent in this and keep moving forward.

[Evie McLeod]

I love this.

[Lindsay Roman]

That's amazing.

[Evie McLeod]

My. My productivity nerd brain is like, amen.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yes.

[Evie McLeod]

I love it so much.

[Cayenne Molina]

What is so funny is I've always loved this kind of stuff. Like the systems. I always love that in business, the productivity things and habits. I find it so fascinating. Never in a million years, like, I did it for my business. Never thought this would pivot into, like, what I do now. And it's so interesting how God uses, I mean, one of the hardest parts of my story, like, honestly, I had to walk away from my business. I don't think I shared that yet. But the Lord asked me to fully lay down a successful business and walk away. And I was just a stay at home mom. I put in air quotes because I think stay at home moms are incredible. But for me, that was a piece of my identity that I didn't realize. I've never not been an entrepreneur. I shot my first wedding when I was 16. Like, it's all I've ever known. And that was literally, it sounds, sounds dramatic, but it was one of the hardest things that I've ever had to surrender to the Lord and lay down and not know if I would ever come back to it. So now seeing how that has pivoted, it's just such a, I think, full circle moment of how God used that to now do what I do now.

[Lindsay Roman]

Oh, my gosh, that's amazing. And that resonates, I know, with us, but also a lot, a lot of our listeners as well.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Roman]

I have a question on. So you have of three under four years old. Right. And they're, you know, I. There's a lot going on there. You're homeschooling, you're homesteading, and you're also running a business.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Roman]

How have you incorporated rhythms to, I guess, balance, for lack of a better word, all of that in a day? Or do you segregate it to be like, okay, this is a homeschool day. Okay, this is a work day. Or do you, you, like, multitask or balance it, tan in tandem throughout your days? Like, what does your average day or week look like with all those things?

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah, well, every day is a little bit different, to be honest. Like, it's not exactly the same. So I don't have a lot. I'll try and tackle them in portions. So work wise, I don't have a lot of childcare in this season, so I have help. Like today I have help. My husband's grandma helps me one day a week, so she watches them during that day. So I will get obviously a lot of work done in that time. Aside from that, working wise, I'm working now. I'm getting up a lot earlier than my kids. I started with those small pockets, but now I need the early morning work time. So I get most of my work done in the early mornings and then during nap time, slash quiet time, which we still have. That is how I do work wise. So I guess that generally looks the same day today throughout the week. Homesteading wise, that is just a daily rhythm as far as like taking care of the animals we have. So we're in a city and we have had dairy goats in the past. We're kind of those crazy people. We had dairy goats, chickens, ducks, and we have a large garden. So it depends on the time of year. My rhythm around this really shifts seasonally, obviously. So right now there's not a whole lot aside from we have chickens and ducks. We don't have the dairy goats anymore right now until we get some more land. But that's just checking in on them daily. It's pretty minimal right now. But my rhythm does shift quite a bit seasonally in the summer and things to accommodate that. What else did you at homeschooling? I am not an expert at homeschooling, so I'll tell you what I do, but I have literally just started. So my oldest is in preschool. I'm kind of doing it it with the two older ones and we usually do that first thing in the morning. So I start with breakfast because they seem to, I don't know, just listen better with breakfast. And so we do it first thing in the morning most days. There are days my business is evolving. I'm having more calls during the day and things. So I honestly am in kind of like a transitional season where we're seeing what works, the goal to be transparent. I haven't shared this publicly. We want my husband to come back home eventually and we're not there yet. And so I'm in an in between season currently where it's like I have to pivot and really trust the, the Lord to give me the discernment each day to know how to balance all of this. So I don't know if that directly answers your question. Um, it's a lot of pivoting and using the rhythms and what I have learned mindset wise in order to do that.

[Lindsay Roman]

Well, you know, that's so helpful. Um, my. This is a selfish follow up question to that because I just resonate with so much of what you said and I'm very similar. Whereas I have. I have two days with a babysitter. Thursday today is being one of them. Um, she's out there.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah.

[Lindsay Roman]

Her brother's behind the camera family.

[Evie McLeod]

Anyways, that works well.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah, it works. Right. But I, I have that time and then obviously quiet times or, or before like they wake up or after they go to bed on other days. My question that I almost struggle with sometimes Is when they're running rampant, Whether we're homeschooling or they're playing or whatever, the house gets messy, right when they go to their inevitable nap or quiet time, I almost find myself struggling between, okay, do I take this time to work, or do I take this time to climb, like, tidy up and clean up the kitchen, the house, the mess.

[Evie McLeod]

That has ensued, or to start dinner, depending on what you're doing.

[Lindsay Roman]

Because if I take the free time that I have to fully work, the house becomes just absolute, utter chaos. And so it's like I'm almost forcing myself to choose then between, I'm going to take this time to work because there's things to always get done. Obviously, it's like, or do I. How do you deal with that?

[Cayenne Molina]

I would love to know that is really real. Like, that is such a struggle. So one thing that we do is we have tidy anchor points throughout the day. And so one thing that I started doing was one of them. So I tie them to existing habits, and that's how I kind of go about choosing what time of day to do it. So for me, it was before lunch and then after dinner time, because those are generally at the same time, so I can remember to do them. And I basically just reset the house to what it was before. This is not like a decluttering session. Literally just reset back to normal. So something that was helpful is helping I protect that nap time, like, my life depends on it, to be honest. Because we don't have a lot of work time, right? So if we're trying to grow a business, like, we need to be productive in that time. And so I try and really make it a priority to do that. That tidy anchor point before the kids go down for nap. So I have them help me with it. That doesn't mean my house is always perfect, though. Like, there are definitely things that I leave and, for example, like, I batch things also. So we don't have a dishwasher, which I realize is weird, and we haven't for, like, eight years.

[Lindsay Roman]

You don't have a dishwasher with.

[Cayenne Molina]

No.

[Lindsay Roman]

I just felt so hard for you in this moment. Oh, man. Okay.

[Cayenne Molina]

Okay. So I do not do dishes, like, throughout the day in small pockets, actually. I put. I rinse them off. I put them in the sink. That is my container to hold them. And then at the end of the evening is when I go through and do all the dishes. It really does not take actually that long. It probably takes me like 30 minutes maybe to wash all of them. If I Have a pot. I will do that in the moment. Just because we have an 800 square foot house. So if I have a big pot that's, I don't know, it just clutters everything up. And so I'll wash that quickly, put it on the stove. But that's an example of I'm not washing all the dishes throughout the day. You know, I'm not. I'm just resetting it back to normal. So I think that there's grace also to. And there are days. I mean, there are still days. This is not a perfect science, you know, where you need to leave it and you need to get work done. So I feel like some people need to hear that, that it's not perfectionism here. We're going for progress and like 1% better every day. Not the standard that is unattainable, you know?

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah, that's so good.

[Evie McLeod]

Yeah, I think too, as just somebody from the outside, like watching, I'm like, I think that may shift season to season on like for something even. Lindsay, when you're asking that question, I'm like, I could see for one season where you're like, no, I'm. I'm preparing to do this, or I'm ready to launch, I don't know, new presets or something, and you're gonna take your nap time to work. But then in other seasons, it may be a season where like, you may have to acknowledge, like, no, I only work Mondays and Thursdays and my nap time is house stuff. It's, you know, personal, like growth. It's. It's calling a friend. It's, you know, whatever it is. And like there. That may shift season to season too. That's not always like a blanket one size. Like your nap time should always be for housework or like, they should always be for work, right?

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah.

[Evie McLeod]

So I like, I think there's also grace in recognizing that, like, what worked for you for one season may be shifting now. And you may feel that tension because you're needing to like, reassess or change some of those rhythms that you were in that worked really well. But also there's also like, you may be like, I never found a rhythm there, so now I have to find it and I have to, like, get into it. So I guess that cayenne for you on something like that, where even nap times or getting up before the kids or working after the kids go to bed or something, is that something that you have noticed has been really beneficial for a lot of these, like entrepreneur moms to kind of build out. Obviously, like you said, days can totally change and things can shift and kid won't go down for his nap and is upset and teething and crying, whatever. But have you noticed that having that perspective, like you mentioned, you work, you get up really early and work before your kids get up. And that's a really rhythm for you now. Have you noticed that kind of, I guess assigning work hours or work times that you try to stay as consistent as you can with as a working mom is like really beneficial in the rhythm area?

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah. For everyone I work with, yes. Like, I think it's so helpful to have it actually on your calendar. Something that I started doing because for a long time I would just find the pockets of time when I could and it was just driving me crazy to not know what to expect. And so I think now, yes, things change. There are seasons where things pivot, et cetera, or we just have a way weird week with people being sick and we have to shift that. But for the most part, I have pretty clearly defined when I am in mom mode and when I am in work mode. And one thing that was really helpful for me was writing out, figuring out how many hours I needed to work. And that honestly is something I put off for so long because, you know, it's kind of a test to actually write out all these things. But you really just start with writing out daily, weekly, monthly, what you need to do in your business and assigning like a guess on how long that takes. This you'll see as you go. Honestly, I saved a lot of time. Some of them I over like estimated how long and when I started timing it, I was so much faster because I'm like, I'm on the clock.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah.

[Cayenne Molina]

So I did that and ultimately came down to how many hours I need a week. And then at the start of every week, during my weekly planning meeting on Sundays, I literally will put in my Apple calendar. These are my work blocks. And so usually it's like an hour and a half work block in the morning, a one to two hour work block, usually two hours in the afternoon. And then I have a longer work block on Thursdays. And so I actually have them literally assigned so that I know this is when I'm working. I know I need to wake up and do that. And then also scheduling and rest like you said, Evie, that is something I talk to people about too. It's going to shift based on seasons. In a launch season, I'm not doing this, but I like to set aside one or two days A week where I have my nap time for whatever I want to do. Because in, like, the. These, I don't know, workaholic tendencies. That's kind of a negative word to put on it, but I don't know what else to call it. Or just getting stuck and working all the time. It's hard to shut our brain off. And so having a weekly Sabbath for our family, that was huge. But then also scheduling in rest time, because, again, if you fail to plan, you plan to fail. So I love that.

[Lindsay Roman]

Oh, my gosh, how I could talk to you for literally forever. Oh, my goodness. This is just. I love this. So kind of wrapping up what. We'd love to ask these questions as kind of the end of a guest interview. And we. This first one, we selfishly just realized that we love reading. Well, we didn't realize. We know that we love reading, but we were like, we talk to people all the time that are incredible, and I want to pick their brain on what books they're reading. So this first question is, what is a favorite book that you've read recently?

[Cayenne Molina]

Well, I love that because I literally do the same thing on my podcast for that exact same reason.

[Lindsay Roman]

Oh, okay, perfect.

[Cayenne Molina]

So many good books.

[Lindsay Roman]

Yeah, you do.

[Evie McLeod]

List is impeccable.

[Cayenne Molina]

Yes. Okay, so the first book that came to mind is Psychology of Winning by Dennis Whateley. We actually read this in a book club in a business membership I'm a part of. And I love that it's short. Like, it is so easy to read. But I think I'm going to reread it, like, four times because there's just so many action items in that. And then the second one, I know I had two. Sorry, but no.

[Evie McLeod]

Give as many as you want.

[Cayenne Molina]

Persuade for good by Macy McNeely and Catherine Schubert. Have you heard of the sales girls?

[Evie McLeod]

No.

[Cayenne Molina]

Well, I'm kind of in their bubble at the moment because I'm a part of a challenge that they're doing this week. I think you guys would like them. But anyways, they have a book, and the book is really good as well. So it's on, like, Amazon and Audible, and I don't know all the things.

[Lindsay Roman]

Amazing. Add my list to the list. Yes.

[Evie McLeod]

I love it. Okay, and then the next question. Cayenne is like, an. A bit of a deep one. So if you need to think about it, totally fine. But what is the biggest lesson that you have learned? I normally, it's in business, but I kind of want to ask you, like, in business or in the motherhood, business, marriage, life? That you're living in right now?

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah, I. Oh, man. There are so many things that I could say, but I think the biggest one for me is if I'm putting anything as a higher priority in my days or my habits or whatever than the Lord, it's not worth it. For too many years. Like, I really got trapped in. In just making my business in Idol. I kind of mentioned that before, and you don't. I wouldn't have said that, and I didn't realize that, but that's honestly what I was doing. And so letting that be my main motivator and driver, like, constantly pushing for the next thing and trying to hit the note, like the next goals, and everything just revolved around that, keeping that afloat. And so when the Lord asked me to lay down my business several years ago, which I know it's different stories, but I know you guys went through a season, like, with the heart of, like, downshifting or, like, downsizing, everything you were doing with the heart and laying down, like, a lot of income and opportunities and all those things for more time with your families, from what I understand, anyways. And that's what it was for me. That was incredibly humbling, too, to even realize that I had kind of a pride aspect of being a business owner and finding my identity in that. Like, I remember thinking, I'm going to introduce myself in these friend circles or whatever, and I'm just cayenne. Like. Like, I'm not a business and I wasn't for a while. And so I feel like when you're coming to the Lord now, like, being in a season where I have a business again, he has opened up doors for me to do this again in a really different capacity. It has been really cool to see when you're truly building it with the Lord and, like, praying through how do I make my time the most valuable? Like, I don't have a ton of childcare. The Lord asked me to walk away from Instagram the child year. That's a wild story. That's how I built my previous two businesses. I realize it sounds crazy because it is, honestly. And he called me to pivot towards a podcast. And I went, like, I went all in on that because I knew that's what the Lord was directing me to do. And we have hit milestones in the last five months that I never would have dreamed of, like, with my podcast and doors that the Lord has opened up like this, like being on. On your podcast right now, truly, like, opportunities like this that I fully believe came out of that season. Season of truly surrendering and giving it to the Lord, not knowing what's going to come out of it for him to lead. And it's easy to say that, but man, getting to the heart of that surrender is so much easier said than done.

[Lindsay Roman]

100% way men that one can't attest to that.

[Cayenne Molina]

It was one of those I wanted to ignore, to be honest, when I first felt it, of like, oh, I can just push this down. I don't need to walk away from my business. That's crazy. You know, and same with Instagram. It was the same like wrestle almost with the Lord in God has a.

[Lindsay Roman]

Way of just like, it's. He's like, it's fine. I'll just come at you a different way. You'll. You'll get here eventually.

[Evie McLeod]

Yep, 100%.

[Lindsay Roman]

Oh my gosh. Thank you so much, Cayenne, for just your time, your wisdom, your just relatable. Yeah. Lessons that you have given us and just all of our listeners. I have loved this conversation so much and I know our listeners have as well. If anybody's listening to this and they're like, I need to be friends with this girl. I need to get into her membership, buy her course or just be online friends. Well, are you still on Instagram? That's my question. Listen to your podcast? Any of that? Yeah, all of it. Where can they find you?

[Cayenne Molina]

Yeah, so I'm not on Instagram anymore. So the best place to find me is the podcast. Like that's my number one thing. I show up twice a week on there. It's called Simple Rhythms for Busy Moms. You can go find it on any podcasting app. And we talk all about how to simplify your daily routines for more time with your family. So really all of the things we talked about here, just more in depth, intentional systems and boundaries too. Simplify and organize your life to really just take things out of your head and put them into systems to help your life flow on autopilot, to help you slow down and prioritize, rest and ultimately to find your identity in Christ. Not your to do list. So I would love for any of your listeners to come say hi over there. And then the second place I hang out the most is my free Facebook group community. So I think I mentioned earlier I have a free morning routine download for anyone who wants to build out a morning routine that serves them in the season they're in, even if they're not sleeping through the night. And we do do regular challenges in there as well. This is really fun for me because it's just a group of like like minded moms balancing business, motherhood, home, faith, all of those things. And when we can have a challenge like where we have a quiet time challenge or a screen time challenge, you know, things to help you be accountable, to actually put this into action in your life to get off your phones and be more present with your families, that has been very like rewarding and fun to do together. So if anyone wants to come join that group that is bit ly simplerhythms community and any of your listeners can get that download as as well.

[Evie McLeod]

I love it.

[Lindsay Roman]

Thank you so much Cayenne.

[Evie McLeod]

Thank you for your time and just sharing your story, your journey, your lessons. This was so powerful and I know our listeners got so much out of it. So thank you for being here.

[Cayenne Molina]

Thank you so much for having me. I had so much fun.