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434: A Trip Down Memory Lane - Evie & Lindsey’s Favorite Memories with Each Other
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On this week’s episode of the Heart and Hustle Podcast we are sitting down and sharing our favorite memories of each other over our 10 year friendship! We talk about Lindsey finding out she was pregnant during a video shoot with our friend...
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You're listening to the Heart and Hustle podcast. We are your hosts, Abby McLeod and Lindsay Roman. And today is going to be a really fun episode. This, if you will. Yeah. If you.
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B
This is for the longtime listeners or.
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A
The people who just want to get to know us a little bit more and like the behind the scenes of our relationship. Because if anyone doesn't know, we've been friends for like 10 years and business partners for like, I feel like we've.
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B
Been friends since 2015. Sorry. Yeah, 2015. And met in 2017. So pretty much 10 years.
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A
Yeah. It's enough time. We have enough history in those years that there's some fun memories in it. So we're gonna pull back the curtain on some of them. And what we did in today's episode is Lindsay wrote down some of her favorite and I wrote down some of mine, and neither of us know what the other person wrote down.
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B
I'm very curious if there's duplicates.
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A
There have to be because there are some iconic moments in our friendship. But we're gonna stop talking and just get to the memory lane Stroll.
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B
We're strolling down memory lane today. Come along with us. We're going into the Evie and Lindsay lore.
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A
Yes. Let's dive in. Let me guess. Right about now you may feel a little defeated in the productivity department. No matter how hard you try, you just can't seem to cross anything off your to do list. Your mind is moving a million miles per hour, but focusing on completing one little task feels impossible because of the endless day to day distractions. Hey, we are all in the same boat. There are so many distractions in entrepreneurship, let alone life itself. Being productive is an age old struggle now. While it can feel hopeless at times, trying so hard to get everything done, there is hope you can be more productive and find freedom and more time in your life and stop from spinning your wheels. I am here to tell you it is possible we are here to help you. Which is why Lindsay and I are sharing some of our favorite ways to boost your productivity and find freedom in your workday. Head to theheartuniversity.com productivity for a freebie on our favorite ways to better manage our time and actually end the day feeling good about what we accomplished. Hey.
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B
Hey. I'm Lindsay Roman.
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And I'm Evie McLeod. And we are family and legacy focused serial entrepreneurs and the founders of the Hart University, a business education company with a mission to help you thrive in your business and life.
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Welcome to our entrepreneur cocktail hour where business and marketing strategies meet faith Real talk and raw in life changing conversations.
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At the end of the day, we are all in the same together. Figuring out how to navigate the ups and downs, the messy and the beautiful and everything in between. This is a community where you can come as you are, get inspired and walk away. Equipped to build a legacy filled life.
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B
You're listening to the Heart and Hustle podcast.
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A
Evelyn Lindsey Noel. I can't. I can't lengthen your name, so I pulled in the middle.
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B
How should we. How should we do that? Should we. You said you have seven, not. I don't know if you're gonna share them all, especially because we have probably duplicates.
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A
4, 5, 6, 7.
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B
Yeah, you go first then. Because I have like five. I think I wrote down.
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A
I guarantee this one. I guarantee the first one I wrote down. It has to be on your list. If it's not, I'm shocked.
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B
Okay.
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A
It's. It's when. When we found out you're pregnant with Eloise.
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B
Okay. No, that's actually not on my list.
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A
Really?
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B
No, because there was too many. So you go ahead and tell that story.
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A
Okay.
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B
It is. It is iconic.
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A
This is just an iconic one, actually.
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B
Wait, why was that not on my list? That's l. The best one.
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It's one of the most iconic. It was the first one I thought of.
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B
Okay.
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A
Okay. So long story short, it's gonna take.
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B
You back to 2019. It's a fresh October day.
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A
Yes. We. We were filming a ton with our incredible friend and videographer, Brady Clayton. We were in Hawaii, Lindsay and Andrew were living in Hawaii. And we were filming for a promo and a actual content for a course. Anyways, we're like work, work, work mode. And I forget long towards the end of the week, towards the end of.
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B
The filming week because we had also been recording the course and like had wine as.
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A
That we were sipping on during the course.
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B
Actively sipping on.
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A
Barely. I mean it was like.
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B
Yeah, no, it was mostly a crop.
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A
But anyways, long story short, we were having a conversation with Brady. Brady was sharing how he and his wife like found out that they were pregnant with their first. And Lindsay all of a sudden goes, actually, when was the last time I had my cycle?
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B
Yeah, well, Brady was sharing in the car.
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A
So just like in the car, we're driving home.
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B
We're driving home from like a shoot location and he's telling. Yeah. The story of how Quinn. So it just him actively saying like.
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We realized she was late on her period.
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B
But I didn't really know. I just hadn't been tracking It. But I just forgot that like, oh, that's how you.
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A
That's.
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B
That's like. That's a sign is if you. If you can't really remember how long ago it was, like, oh, ring, ring, ring, ring. Like red flag or green flag, whatever. But like. And I just him saying like, like, yeah. So Quinn, like it had been a while since her period and that like triggered me and I was like, when was the last time my period.
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A
So Lindsay's thinking this quietly to herself in the car as we're like chatting with Brady. Granted, keep in mind we had just been filming like long away from home, like out at the beach. So we're driving home. We get home. I had said this in the car. Like I was like, y' all, I gotta pee. Like, I was like, I have to go to the bathroom so bad. So we enter the front door. Lindsay, unbeknownst to me of why bolts.
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B
To the bathroom, you didn't go to the bathroom immediately?
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A
No, because I was like unloading stuff from the car and then I was going to go. You like booked it? You went straight to the bathroom?
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Yeah. Cuz I was like, hey, I have a pregnancy test. Like, might as well just try. Like it just triggered my thought.
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A
So she. I don't know what she's doing. I just think she's going to the bathroom because she has to pee too. So she goes to the bathroom, she walks out and I immediately walk into the bathroom.
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B
Hold on. But I had a moment in there where I was like, what do I do? It's positive. Andrew's cooking right now. I called this in. We actively have guests. We have Evie and Brady staying at our house. What am I gonna do?
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She's like, I'm gonna go grab Andrew right now.
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B
Yeah. I was like, I can't hold this in. I need to just. Just like we don't have time for creativity, for reveals. We just gonna bring him into the bathroom and show him the stick. So I leave the bathroom, beeline it to the kitchen. So while. While she's about, While she's about to share what's about to happen with her. I'm in the kitchen. Andrew's in a grumpy mood. Just that's how he was just like. I was like, can you come to the bathroom, please? And he really was like, why? I'm cooking? And I was like, you'll understand.
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A
You're like trying to get to the bathroom. You're like trying to finagle him into. And I'm like, I gotta go, bro. And Run straight to the bathroom.
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B
Key information here. I left the stick on the sink.
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A
Face up, face up on the bathroom counter.
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B
I didn't envision that she was gonna go.
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This woman did not think, I have a positive pregnancy test. I have guests who are probably going to need to use our one bathroom in our one. Like, our house.
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B
No. Because I literally took it in the medicine cabinet. I don't know. I didn't know. No, no. I didn't know you had to go to the bathroom. And I was like, I'm going to get Andrew in, like, literally, like, two seconds and bring him back. It was a quick ordeal in my brain.
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So she leaves it out on the counter, face up. I go in to go to the bathroom. I didn't see it at first until after I was, like, standing up, and I was like, see it? No, I didn't see it until after I'd gone to the bathroom.
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B
Really had to go pee.
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I had to go pee so bad. So I was so beelining it for that toilet. I, like, stand up to go wash your hands and eat it. Yeah, to wash my hands. Because it's on the, like, edge of the sink.
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B
It's.
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I. There is no way I could have not seen that test with a blaring two lines.
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B
Was it two lines, or was it the one that said pregnant? I think it was the two lines.
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A
It was two lines.
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B
Okay.
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It was blatantly obvious. Two lines, bold as day. And I go, oh, shoot.
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B
Because you think that I hadn't seen it.
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I thought she took the test, just left it on the counter, had no idea she was pregnant at that point. And I was like, I am the only person. I just saw her test before she did. I'm the only person in this world who knows that Lindsay's pregnant right now. What do I do? Because I. If I walk out of this bathroom, I have to keep the most straight face. She can't know that I just saw positive. Like, what do I do? I was panicking, so I. Andrew's taking.
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He's like, I'll be there in a second in the kitchen. And I'm just like, okay, let me go collect myself in the bathroom while he does that.
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And the bathroom door is closed. You realize I'm in there?
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B
Yeah, yeah. So I go into the bathroom or go to the hallway where the bathroom is. Bathroom door is closed. Evie opens it, and we make eye.
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Contact the most, I think, genuinely one of the most intense eye contacts we have ever made in our entire.
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B
And at the point you knew. I knew because you gave me a.
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Look like, like, did you just see what I just saw? Which told me, obviously.
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B
Could it have not gone into the bathroom and not seen it? Or like.
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Well, I literally did not say a thing. And I just stared at you because I was trying to read your expression. If you knew.
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B
Oh, you could clearly tell.
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It took me a second to like, like, you kind of had like a smirk. Like, like, I know. It was like. That's when I was like, oh, my gosh. And I like, was. I think we just like, hugged and I was just like. We were whispering in the corner. I was like, bro, I also think.
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B
And then finally I took Andrew into the bathroom, told him all that was. Well, I think this whole time Brady was outside talking to Quinn, his wife, on the phone. And by then it was like a long conversation. And so Andrew had finished dinner. He's all giddy. His mood has changed now, surprisingly. And we all sit down for dinner. Brady finally comes in while we're sitting down for dinner. And I'm pretty sure Andrew's like, Lindsay's pregnant.
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Just announces it. Because at that point I knew. And Brady's the only person in this little tiny house who doesn't know. Anyways, it was iconic. We always joke that, like, I found out before Andrew, and that was just so fitting for our friendship. It was all the jokes and all the things, but that was. That was a fun moment, obviously, being a part of, like, such a big life change moment, but also just the. The intense emotions that went with it of like, what the frick do I do? Do I walk out of here just as if I saw nothing? How can I possibly pretend that I saw nothing? Like, her life is about to change forever. Anyways, it was a good one.
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B
Okay, my. My next one. This is like, not as iconic as that. So I don't. I honestly don't even know why that was not on my list. But I'm glad it wasn't because this followed very quickly after next day.
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A
I guarantee this is on mine.
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B
We were. We were filming for the same. For the same course and. Hold on. Yeah, we're. We're good. And we were out on these. We're in Hawaii. We're in Oahu. We're on the west side of Oahu. If you know anything about Oahu. It. There is this area called, like the mermaid caves. And there are like typical, like, volcano rocks that are very like, sharp.
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Sharp and jagged.
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Jagged, spiky. You get the gist. So this is the day after I've. I'm One day into knowing I'm pregnant, very fresh, probably like five or six weeks, and we're like. We just idiots. Idiots think that it's a good idea to frolic on the spiky rocks while Brady did some drone shots.
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To be fair, we technically weren't frolicking. We were going up because it. The waves were hitting the rocks, I.
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Think, like, to show, like, we were like, girl bosses or something. I don't know.
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It was epic the way the wave. The waves were coming in and hitting waves.
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The rock, like, and we were holding hands. Girl power, right? And. And, like, as the wave crashed, we.
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Were, like, throwing our hands up.
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I don't know. I don't know if that was our idea or Brady's, but it happened. And I'm going to. I'm going to show this video. We'll have it play on the screen.
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A
Watch on YouTube. Friends.
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B
Yeah, watch on YouTube.
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A
Several clips of.
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Probably should have preface that to watch on YouTube.
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But here you'll still get fun stories, but you'll get the.
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B
Here it is. Here it is. Phone whack. It just takes us out. It absolutely takes us out. And then we're crawling, and then we're crawling, and then boom. Lindsay goes down.
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Well, okay, can I. Can I give some context, too, to this? First of all, we were idiots.
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B
That could have killed us.
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The lifeguard, literally, life came up afterwards. Do you remember this? Lindsay was all torn up and cut up.
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Oh, yeah. Literally, I had. Because of that second fall, I had.
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Multiple, like, cuts on me. But you were, like. You were pretty destroyed.
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Like, huh.
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Like, graded on the feet and, like, legs and hands. Like, it was bad. And a lifeguard came up and, like, was giving us, like, a first aid kit and kind of helping us, like, bandage and wash her wounds and whatever. But he was like, yep, tourists have died at that spot. And that's when we were, like, stupid. We were really stupid. Like, we were really stupid. I think. Honestly, I think we were. We were a lot further back. And then Brady was like, can you get closer? Like, none of us were really thinking. We were like, oh, sure, yeah. Also.
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B
Also not maybe understanding the tide at that time in our lives of, like, just because a wave, like, doesn't crack, like, there. There is a. Like, a tide. I don't know if that's a tighter. Like, the wave comes in, like, sets where a bigger. Like, it can get bigger. Whereas, like, sometimes it was crashing against the water.
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Flash. And then.
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And then, like, a big one came and, like, that's where it.
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Like, But Let me. Let me explain. I think this was just the. The panic of the moment. You went down first and your shoe. Either we'd taken our shoes off and, like, hid them in, like, some of the crevices. Yeah, it was like your. Your Birkenstock, like, sandal or it fell off. I forget which. But I'm, like, booking it out of there. Like, you know, looking back to make sure you're coming.
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Right.
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And you had turned around, bent down to find. To find. You're like, my shoe. I was like, forget your freaking shoe. Get out of here. You're gonna die.
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I don't even think it was a real Birkenstock.
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Like, no, it was from Target. It was, like, literally not even a real burger. You were like, my shoe. And I was like, dude, maybe my.
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Thought was that walking on, like, I wanted them back on.
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Like, literally. Part of why you got knocked over again, like, hard, is because you were bending down trying to find your shoe.
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I was literally the video. In hindsight, knowing we didn't die, knowing we're all safe and healthy.
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It's iconic.
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B
It's just like, she just goes down again.
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A
It was. And I'm, like, turning around, trying to, like, help her. It was so freaking funny. Okay, that was one of my memories. But the other one was in the Shark's Cove, which was the same filming time.
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B
Okay, that's not on my list. You share that.
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A
I'm just gonna. This is a brief.
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B
There's many, many memories from that.
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We had multiple.
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That's is not on my list, but I'm like, the Grim Reaper of the night. That was also a line.
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That was a fun one. That's not on my list, but that was a good fun.
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I just. After what she's gonna. About to share. My makeup was not.
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She had, like, mascara black, and it.
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Was, like, all over. And then we got in the car, and I saw myself, and I was like, why did no one tell me I looked like a grim reaper of the night?
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A raccoon.
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B
Oh, a raccoon.
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A
I feel like we're gonna need to put that clip in now just because it's so funny. Anyways, no, we were. We were snorkeling. We were getting some epic footage of, like, drone footage of us, like, like, laying on our backs, like, arms out in the water. It was really cool. It looked great. It was for the, like, promo video of. Of this course. Um, but we were surfing or snorkeling in Sharks Cove on North Shore of Oahu in winter when the surf is the biggest.
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B
Well, it was October, so, like.
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A
Okay. It wasn't. It wasn't.
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B
Yeah, it wasn't as bad as it is. It does get in the winter, but.
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It was like, you. Nobody was out there snorkeling. Nobody. And that's, like, one of the most popular, iconic, like, you know, tourists surf or snorkel spots. Not snorkeling because the waves were a little bit bigger. Not a good idea.
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B
And when you're filming, you don't get.
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The luxury of waiting to next summer.
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And you have the luxury of choosing not to do stupid things.
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Yeah. Which we just apparently didn't do anyways. There's also very, like, sharp, jagged rocks. Long story short, we were trying to come back in, and I, like, I'd surfed a bit at that point in my life, like, a couple of years, but not in, like, I knew how to read the sets and the surf a little bit. And so I was like, okay, like, Brady, go, go, go, go. So Brady swam in, and then, like, I was watching again, and I was like, okay, Lindsay, like, go, go, go. Cause when we were out in the middle, it was somewhat like, it was calmer. We were fine, but it was, like, breaking towards the slurp.
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You had to swim out of the open area into, like, the COVID where you could get.
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And you had to swim through all these really jagged, like, rocks that were also very sharp and everything.
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Like, imagine you're swimming around, like, coral and rocks, but it's, like.
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It's, like, super shallow, and there's big rocks coming out of the water.
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It's like three or four feet below you, but, like, some of them are coming up and. And you have to, like, navigate through them. But then waves are coming in and.
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Pushing you into, like, into the rocks. So, anyways, long story short, one of the waves came in, like, sooner than we expected, whatever. And I go around the backside of one of these rocks and, like, wrap my arms around it so that I don't get, like, thrown around in all these rocks. And I forget what happened with you.
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B
But I think I don't even remember.
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I just remember literally, in that moment, it was a moment that I literally was like, if I don't help Lindsay, she will die. Possibly here.
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B
I don't think it was that.
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A
It was pretty intense. I remember being like, crap here. I think I shoved you behind a rock. I was like, hold on. And then, like, I tried to grab on another. It was just one of those moments that I was like, oh, my gosh, we're about to die. Again. Anyways, we had. We had some dramatic moments.
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B
Was this the same day? No, I don't think it was the same day as the other one. This might have been before.
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I think this was before you found out you're pregnant. I think this was like, the. The.
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B
I really got knocked around.
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I think this was a day you found out you're pregnant or the day before. So it was like a couple days before the big wave crash.
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B
Yeah.
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Anyways, we had some dramatic things there.
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B
Okay, well, so that was three of yours.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Wow.
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The wave at Sharks Cove, Or I guess not at Shark's Cove, but the wave in Hawaii was one too.
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B
Well, how fitting that all of those memories were, like, within three days of each other.
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A
Yeah, those were all early 2018. 2019.
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B
Okay, I'm gonna do another one. It doesn't have video footage, but it's just. It's not really even that much of a story. It's just iconic lore of our friendship. For the first month that I met her, I called her Evie, and girlfriend did not correct me.
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A
Let's. Okay, let's give some context.
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B
Does there need to be context?
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A
We had been Internet, like, Instagram, like.
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B
Good friends for years in my noggin.
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A
Yeah.
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Met her in person. Hi, Evie. Oh, my gosh. Here was the whole shoot of her and Landon. Yeah, Evie. Landon. Okay. Can you do that? Evie? Oh, my gosh. That's so perfect.
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Evie. Here's the thing. The first time she said it, I was like, oh, my gosh. What do I say?
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B
Because immediately, you.
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This girl and I have been friends, but, like, it just. It was a moment where you're like, oh, my gosh, Evie's so nice to see you. Whoa. Where did you get. Like, it was something that, like, it.
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B
Felt like it would feel rude to.
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Correct me, like, by the way, Like, I felt. And I was like, I'll. I'll do it. Like, and then it just.
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B
Now that you know me, though, and, no, I can't really be offended.
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No. Now that I, like, know you the way I do, if you'd been like, oh, my gosh, Evie, I'd be like, bro, soft, E. I'm a soft woman. Effie. Anyways, yeah, I didn't correct you on that one. I felt kind of bad.
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B
But it wasn't even that you didn't correct me that evening. You didn't correct me until, like, many, many months later.
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A
Two weeks later.
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B
It was a month.
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A
It was two weeks later. It was when you delivered the gallery. I was like, oh, my gosh. I Love them also by the way. Not a big deal.
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B
I respond to anything long enough that it was too long.
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A
She was livid. She still was mad about that one. Okay, this one I do have a video for and the audio alone is iconic enough. I wonder if this is going to be on your list.
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B
It's probably.
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A
This is just a random. This is not anything but it's both of us die every time we see and hear this one.
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B
100. I know what it is. So I'm just gonna set the scene. What year is it? Where are we?
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A
It is. We are in Utah. We had just hosted I am eating Ben and Jerry's half baked ice cream.
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B
Because look at our memories are the exact same.
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A
I just needed and wanted ice cream. I wondered if it was. I was just filming me after a long workshop. I think it was like the last day. The girls were packing up to leave or something. And I was just enjoying some more about me.
- [19:37]
B
One, I can't shut up. And two, I speak very loud. It's a. It's a cheerleading case. You don't know from the podcast from high school problem. So I'm just a loud talker and I've gotten better over the years at controlling my voice so it doesn't happen as much now. But back in the day when we hosted our workshops, I would lose my voice by midweek. So by the end of the week I've been talking so much and so loud and I just clearly don't have voice control that it's raspy as hell. Which I think makes she loses her.
- [20:03]
A
Voice at the end of every freaking workshop.
- [20:05]
B
Which. Which it makes this video funnier.
- [20:07]
A
So please go watch this. I will put it up on the show. I will put the. The audio too. If you're just listening on audio, I'll hold it up to my mic so you can hear it. But please go watch it because otherwise it won't make sense. But it'll still be funny. Okay, here we go. You literally sound like the Wicked Witch of the West.
- [20:36]
B
It's funnier. It would not be near as funny if I had a normal laugh. It's only funny because it's sound like.
- [20:42]
A
The Wicked witch of the witch.
- [20:44]
B
It sounds like somebody who has still voice laughing. She was filming herself eating Ben and Jerry's and I just come in with.
- [20:54]
A
My talk trying to lick my ice cream pint. Anyways, that's the most random. It's the most random. Like it's not even like an iconic story. It's just. It makes us die laughing.
- [21:06]
B
Every might be the best, best video of all time.
- [21:08]
A
Oh, my gosh, that one's funny. Okay.
- [21:11]
B
Okay. Well, that was one of mine. Hold on, let me. Yep, yep. Okay. Okay, I have a good one. I'm going to take you. This is. This doesn't have video footage. I really wish it did, but it. It. It is a good story in the lore of our friendship, I believe this is May of 2021. We just. So I can paint the scenario of everything that's happening, we are going on a team retreat in Mexico.
- [21:41]
A
I can't believe I didn't put this on my list.
- [21:42]
B
We are going on a team retreat in Mexico. And immediately following it, we are both flying to Evie's house in California to film for an entire month, to batch.
- [21:53]
A
Record of three different courses.
- [21:55]
B
Three different courses. And so I'm gonna be gone for, like, a full month and some change. And before I leave for Mexico, which we're there for, like, two weeks, the first week, just me and Evie, and then our team, it's like our executive.
- [22:09]
A
Like, planning, dreaming, whatever. And then the team flies in and joins us. Planning, dreaming.
- [22:13]
B
So before I fly out, Landon gives me a call and is like, hi, at the end. I would like to propose to Evie at the end of your guys's filming time here in California. That way, like, you're done with work. Here's the situation. And me being, like, CIA level secret keeper, I'm like, oh, sign me up. First of all, you did the correct thing, Landon, by telling me. I'd be mad if you didn't tell me, but I'm like, okay, let's scheme, let's plan. And I'm again, I'm like, overdoing it, probably. This was unnecessary, especially given what happened on my way to Mexico. We're like. We're texting about kind of, like, logistics, and I'm like, here's what's going to be hard. I am quite literally with Evie from. From, like, tomorrow until you.
- [23:00]
A
You do this, like, sleeping in the same room in the same bed pretty much.
- [23:03]
B
So I'm like, I don't really have much capacity to scheme with you unless we get really creative. Here's how we're gonna get creative, Landon. And I said, I'm going to change the name of you in my phone to a random friend that has nothing to do with Evie that she doesn't know. I'm gonna call you Ruthie. Okay? So you're now in my phone as Ruthie. And I. I tried to find the screenshot, but I think I Delete my text. So it's literally I'm in, like. I think I'm in Atlanta on a layover, about to fly to Mexico, and I'm like, all right, I changed your name. Now just, like, type something, like, stupid so that it sounds like me. And in case she sees this for some reason, so that it looks like just random messages between me and Ruthie. And so he's like, haha, girl, I love this. Like, he just. Stupid. And I was like, oh, my gosh.
- [23:46]
A
And put a bunch of emojis. He put, like, multiple emojis in a row.
- [23:49]
B
Right, right, right. Then nothing happened. Okay, great. We're done. We fly to Mexico. We have a great time. Midway through the week in my. No, not even midway.
- [23:57]
A
It was the first day, like, three days of Mexico.
- [24:00]
B
Yeah. Evie is trying to create because we're in an epic, little, like, beautiful place in Mexico Villa with a pool. She's about to launch every swim. So she's, like, creating content. Or maybe you've already launched it. At this point, I'm not sure. But regardless, she thinks that iPhones are waterproof.
- [24:20]
A
Okay, I didn't think they were waterproof. I just thought they were water resistant enough. Brady Clayton led me astray on this one because he films underwater all the time and his phone has never had an issue.
- [24:31]
B
Anyways, Anyways, so we're filming, like, this epic, like, where she's, like, walking out of the pool, like, with her, like.
- [24:39]
A
No, I was, like, dying.
- [24:40]
B
Watch. Supermodel.
- [24:41]
A
I was diving into the pool, and then the phone went underneath the water.
- [24:44]
B
Yeah. And I'm like. And then filming her putting it, like, under the water to show her dive, and then as she comes up, putting it back up. That probably would have been fine if we did it, like, twice, but we did it, like, 30 times to get the right take.
- [24:55]
A
Yep.
- [24:56]
B
Dipping an iPhone under the water 30 times.
- [24:58]
A
Yep.
- [24:59]
B
Doesn't really work. So after that, her phone naturally dies.
- [25:02]
A
Died.
- [25:03]
B
It's the put. We're in a foreign country for, like, two more weeks. She doesn't have a phone, so now she has to use my phone. Oh, but, no, my. My phone's the CIA operative. Like, you can't touch that. No, this was within.
- [25:17]
A
Literally, like, my phone died. We went back up to our room.
- [25:20]
B
And you immediately wanted to tell Landon.
- [25:21]
A
I was like, hey, I need to tell Landon that he can't reach me via my phone. Like, I need him to understand that, like, you can.
- [25:27]
B
You can tell where this story is going. So I'm in the bathroom, like, Mid going bathroom and she's out and she grabs my phone.
- [25:36]
A
You gotta understand, like, we're best friends.
- [25:38]
B
She knows my passcode.
- [25:39]
A
Passcode.
- [25:39]
B
Like, that would have been smart to change it. Why did you change your basco?
- [25:43]
A
I wouldn't have thought anything of that. But we, we like, like, we'll grab each other's phones all the time and be like, oh, let me pull up music. Or let me pull up. You know what?
- [25:49]
B
I'm in the bathroom and she is like, hey, I'm gonna text Landon from. Or I'm gonna call Landon from your phone. Just like to tell him what happened with my phone. And I'm like, imagine. Imagine me like a cartoon in the bathroom. Like, yeah, like double take.
- [26:05]
A
Like the face bug eyed, jerking up.
- [26:08]
B
Because I realized in that moment when she goes to type in Landon's number or type in his name. Well, if she types in his name, I went.
- [26:15]
A
The problem is I went to. Specifically, I went to text him. Had I just wanted to call him, it would have pulled up Ruthie's name, but the call would have gone through. Like, that's.
- [26:26]
B
You still would have had questions. So anyway, she goes to the text message and do you type in Landon? And it doesn't come up.
- [26:31]
A
Landon's contact does not come up.
- [26:33]
B
So. Because she's typing in the name and she'll.
- [26:36]
A
I'm.
- [26:36]
B
I'm like frantically pulling up my pants, trying to get out. And she's like, you don't have Landon's number. And I was like, oh, I. I thought I did. I don't know.
- [26:43]
A
You lied your booty off.
- [26:45]
B
Listen, this is after the April Fool's episode came out. So they know we're good actresses. I didn't get a double major degree in acting for nothing. Okay? So I, I come out and I'm like, oh, that's weird. And you're like, whatever, I'll just put it in his number. And I'm like, glitching and you're like.
- [27:03]
A
Running across the room to me.
- [27:04]
B
You type in his number and you're like, why is his number. Why is. Why is Landon in your phone as Ruthie? And I had to lie my butt. I had to.
- [27:14]
A
I genuinely think that might have been the moment of your life, that you have lied the hardest you've ever lied. Ever.
- [27:19]
B
Because what's the excuse? Genuinely, what's the.
- [27:21]
A
You literally were like, that is so weird. I don't understand.
- [27:24]
B
Like, I had to feign confusion because.
- [27:26]
A
You didn't just feign confusion. You didn't just feign Innocent confusion.
- [27:29]
B
I was mad.
- [27:30]
A
You feigned angry confusion of why does my fricking phone do stuff like this? Like, I was like, bro, it's okay. Like, I don't get.
- [27:40]
B
But I was like, that doesn't make sense. Like, why would. I was like, maybe that was the only explanation. I. There was no explanation other than I changed it, so I don't even know what I said.
- [27:51]
A
I don't know either. But you lied. So I was suspicious. I was suspicious. But here was the thing I was thinking. I was like, okay, it would be cool and romantic if Landon surprised me and flew down to Mexico.
- [28:03]
B
You already had that in your head.
- [28:04]
A
I had already wondered if he was possibly going to do that. And so when I saw his name was changed, I was like, I bet he's going to fly down here and, like, surprise me in Mexico. But I was like, man, that kind of sucks. Because, like, even though there are some, like, very relaxing elements of this trip, like, it's very much like a work trip. Like, we're locked in the zone. Like, there's whole, like, worksheets and documents and things that we go through. And, like, you know, all this stuff, the team flies in in, like, a few days. So I was like, it's gotta be in the next few days when it's just Lindsey and I and there's more capacity to relax if needed. And so I, like, the next few days, like, eyes were out. I was like, where's Landon? What's going on? Is he. Is he unavailable for multiple hours? So I was very suspicious then.
- [28:41]
B
Right.
- [28:42]
A
But when he didn't come down.
- [28:44]
B
Well, but also in that moment, when she pulled up, Ruthie, she went to me and Ruthie's text messages.
- [28:52]
A
Well, because I. I typed in his number in a text, right.
- [28:55]
B
So Ruthie came up. And so when she started to read, because I think I had, like, not. Not too far down, I was like, type some stupid stuff so that, like, it was clearly, like, hiding. Yeah, it was clearly a setup. And so she started looking at it, and I was like, wait, let me see.
- [29:11]
A
Like, I, like, grabbed it so fast out of my hands, but I had to, like, feign.
- [29:14]
B
I was like, wait, let me see. Oh, okay, let me.
- [29:16]
A
But that was all stuff that, like, you would naturally do. Like, none of it was.
- [29:20]
B
Yeah.
- [29:20]
A
Even though the whole Ruthie and wrong number and, like, that was kind of suspicious. Like, you would be the person who, like, would snatch the phone out of my hands to try to figure something out.
- [29:28]
B
Right.
- [29:28]
A
So that wasn't like. That wasn't weird. But then when the team came into town.
- [29:33]
B
Yeah, she brings it up. A freak again. And I have to lie again.
- [29:36]
A
I was like, everybody else, girls tell me, is this suspicious? Because I'm kind of suspicious. And literally, I don't think anybody except Rachel, our assistant, knew.
- [29:44]
B
Yeah, Rachel knew.
- [29:45]
A
But Rachel was like, good liar, too. She was like, I don't know. That is kind of weird.
- [29:50]
B
But also, like, basically, she explains the Ruthie thing and how it was in my phone as Ruthie.
- [29:57]
A
Well, because the thing. The. The good thing with this whole scenario is I was. I did not expect him to do it back home, back at home in this time frame, because I had specifically told him. I was like, hey, please do not propose to me when I am in the middle of, like, a launch or.
- [30:13]
B
In the middle of, like, a.
- [30:14]
A
Of course or anything like that. Like, there was so much going on. I was like, I won't be able to enjoy it. I won't be able to feel relaxed. Like, I'll be like, oh, great. Than back to work. Because it's so locked in when I'm in that mode, like, in that crunch time. And so I was like, once we leave Mexico, even this is like a bunch of work. But, like, the next month is absolutely slammed. And then there were other things, like, back to back after that. I think the Evie Swim launch was still happening or some. It was something that I was like, he's not doing it for months at this point, so maybe they are planning something, but it's way down the road. He planned it so well that I was still so shocked, even with this whole scenario.
- [30:44]
B
That's amazing.
- [30:45]
A
But that was. That was iconic.
- [30:46]
B
The fact that if I wouldn't have. Honestly, though, had I kept his name.
- [30:51]
A
The same, I wouldn't have thought anything.
- [30:53]
B
No, but there was still definitely giveaway tea in the text.
- [30:58]
A
What I saw, there were, like, a bunch of, like, individual emojis. There was, like, a monkey and, like, a. Like, whatever. Like, I wouldn't have really.
- [31:07]
B
But you'd been like, why is my fiance not fiance? Why is my boyfriend texting Lindsay? Like, emoji? Like, that still would have been like.
- [31:14]
A
I don't think I would have.
- [31:15]
B
Why?
- [31:16]
A
I don't think I really would have thought that much of it, to be honest. But putting it as Ruthie definitely made me suspicious for sure.
- [31:21]
B
It's just funny that, like, my ruse that in any other circumstance would not have mattered and, like, you would have never had an incentive to see my.
- [31:29]
A
Phone at all or to contact Lennon from your phone.
- [31:32]
B
No, it was just funny.
- [31:34]
A
That was hilarious. So that's so funny. Good memories. If you are loving what you're hearing on today's episode, then we wanted to share something else you might love. The Heart Shot. It's our digital resource online shop for creative entrepreneurs. The Heart Shop is your one stop shop for all of our online courses, luxury website templates, PDF guides, social media, graphic templates and illustrations.
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B
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A
One of the next one. This one's actually a little more like sentimental.
- [33:37]
B
Oh, precious.
- [33:38]
A
But. Well, actually there's. There's two. Are you done with yours?
- [33:44]
B
I think I have one more.
- [33:45]
A
Okay, cool. I'll give this one first. Well, no, I need to. Okay, I'm gonna jump down to this one because It's. It's chronological, I think. Honestly, I wish I had some form of, like, footage of this or anything, like. But I think facetiming you asking you to host the workshop with me, something about that. Because that just marks, like, the start of everything else.
- [34:05]
B
That's true.
- [34:06]
A
There's just something really sweet about it. So if you don't know the history there. Lindsay and I had obviously been friends on Instagram for years, and then we'd met up and, like, swapped a shoot with each other and, you know, hung out, whatever. But then at that point, I think this was, like, maybe four or five, six months after we'd, like, met and hung out for the first time.
- [34:24]
B
It was. I think you FaceTimed me in the fall of 2017. No, because we met or maybe it was, like, summer.
- [34:31]
A
Yes, you're right.
- [34:31]
B
We met. It was April.
- [34:32]
A
It was August of 2017. I FaceTimed you because when we launched.
- [34:35]
B
The workshop, January of 2018.
- [34:37]
A
Yeah, yeah. But I. I, like, had felt a stirring in my heart at that point of, like, I think I want to do a photography workshop for photographers. Give them, like, everything, you know, whatever. And even though I'm a very, like, confident, independent person, I was like, I really want to do this with somebody. I think it would be really cool to do it, like, co host with somebody who's, like, also on the same page. And the only per. It was so God. It was literally like, lindsay Roman is this person. And there was not a single doubt in my mind. We'd only met in person once, and I was like, this is just. This is the person I would want to host a workshop with. So I FaceTimed you. I remember you were in a coffee shop.
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B
I think I was with Ruthie.
- [35:13]
A
Were you with Ruthie?
- [35:14]
B
I believe so. The real Ruthie.
- [35:15]
A
The real Ruthie, yeah. You were in a coffee shop in Kansas. And I FaceTimed. And I was like, hey, I have this wild idea. And I was, like, presenting. I was like, I think I want to do, like, a photography workshop. I have so many people asking questions like, you know, whatever, like, do you want to do that with me? And what would you. You were like, there's no way. We're not good enough for that. I would.
- [35:35]
B
Well, I was like. My immediate thought was like, oh, that'd be cool. But, like, Evie, like, combined, we have, like, 4,000 followers.
- [35:41]
A
Yeah, we were babies.
- [35:42]
B
We're not India Earl. Who do you think we are?
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A
And I was like, I really think God's telling us to do this.
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B
And you're like, we're good.
- [35:50]
A
I was like, we. But here's the thing. I was like, I can't tell you how many people are asking me questions and how many answers I'm giving and then seeing the results for them.
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B
Right.
- [35:59]
A
I was like, I really think, like, we could bless photographers and give them answers and resources and strategies that they need, and I think it would be really fun to do it together. And she was like, okay, like, let's do it. But that FaceTime was, like, literally the start of everything.
- [36:13]
B
Of everything.
- [36:14]
A
Which was other than neither one of.
- [36:16]
B
Us had any vision other than, like, meeting for the first time in Mendocino.
- [36:20]
A
Yeah. But even that was, like, we still could have been just friends at a distance for years. Like, the FaceTime for the workshop was like, which neither. Like, we did not see the future at all.
- [36:32]
B
At all.
- [36:33]
A
At all. That's just really fun. Okay, I have another one that ties.
- [36:36]
B
Into that, but one more.
- [36:38]
A
Yeah, I have. I have another, like, one that was kind of fun, but it. I can skip it.
- [36:43]
B
That's fine. Mine is just a funny one. It's kind of like the ice cream one. We have video footage of it. Oh, gosh. It's. Anytime that we're together in any capacity, we have fun. But specifically, I feel like when we're filming with Brady Clayton, there is. There is just shenanigans.
- [37:02]
A
I think our three personalities are dynamic trio.
- [37:05]
B
They're very shenanigany. That's not a word. But. So this was. I think it was actually that same month in May of 2021, while we were filming. Most of the stuff was in Evie's house in the studio. But for one, I think it was for our camera basics. Minor course. We went out to the woods to do, like, on location. We went out on location to, like, film. I think it was just, like, showcasing how to shoot in different lighting.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And anyways, it's like, it's in Ventura, California. We're in kind of like, on a trail. So there's snakes present. Right. And so we see, like, it's a good, like, 20ish yards away. Maybe like a snake kind of crawling up a rattlesnake. How do you know it was a rattlesnake?
- [37:48]
A
You could just tell it was a rattlesnake.
- [37:50]
B
Okay, great.
- [37:50]
A
They were all over. There was a sign warning you that there are rattlesnakes all over this trail. And it was a rattlesnake.
- [37:55]
B
Yeah. So. So we're just like, oh, wow. Like, we're far enough away to be like, Good and safe. But, like, Brady being content King, right? He. He starts filming the rattlesnake, and, like, he's just amping it up and doing something funny. And. I don't know. I think it was your idea. I don't even. I don't know what happened. Evie grabs a stick, and I'm about to show you the video. Evie grabs a stick and I start filming our. And, boy, we're behind Brady so he can't see us, but he's actively with his phone filming this. The rattlesnake. He's probably pretending to be, like, Steve Irwin or something. Is that what. Yeah, like, the Australian guy. I don't know what he's doing.
- [38:30]
A
He's a crawl.
- [38:31]
B
He's filming the. Yeah, he's filming the rattlesnake. I'm filming Evie as she takes a stick and, like, slides it slowly up for his leg, up his calf, which, like, put yourself in the mind of Brady. He's actively filming a snake, and he starts to feel something slithering on his leg. Okay, we're gonna need sound for this, too, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'm going to put it up. I'm going to play it for you guys.
- [39:08]
A
Please watch this. Please watch this.
- [39:10]
B
Please watch it. Okay. Oh, wait, hold on. I need. I need volume. Volume would be good. Okay. When there's.
- [39:22]
A
Oh, God. When there's, like.
- [39:25]
B
Oh, God.
- [39:27]
A
Oh, I freaking hate y' all.
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B
Rattle.
- [39:40]
A
He keeps filming.
- [39:46]
B
That's the best video we ever got.
- [39:49]
A
The best part is we have it from.
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B
From his view, too.
- [39:54]
A
And I think on one of mine, I, like, put it in slow mo of his, like, face and reaction with his jump.
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B
He goes. He jumps.
- [40:02]
A
He literally, like, went three feet off the ground. Oh, my gosh.
- [40:06]
B
Also, you'll notice clearly it's not just the workshop that makes me lose my V. I think that same, like, raspy cackle. It was present because I had been talking a lot with Recording, filming the courses.
- [40:16]
A
Oh, my gosh.
- [40:16]
B
So that's always. That's always a good memory. That's just. That one brings a smile to my face.
- [40:22]
A
That one's iconic.
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B
It's so funny.
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A
We love you, Brady. Oh, my gosh. That one is amazing. Okay, well, this one's, like, also sentimental. I feel like we're.
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B
No, that's great.
- [40:32]
A
Like, whiplashing. Okay. This one, for me, I think this was the moment. Well, actually. Okay, hang on. Do you remember? This is not on my list, but this. This kind of. I was gonna say this is. This memory was the moment that I felt like I was like, oh, God's doing something here with us.
- [40:52]
B
Uh huh.
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A
But there was also a moment. Do you remember when we first met up? We'd have been Instagram, like in Mendocino, California, exchanged a shoot and she called me Evie. Anyways, when we hung out, we like met at like a cafe coffee shop on like the porch of this cafe or whatever before we did the shoot. But I forget who it was. If it was me or you. One of us said like, dude, I already feel like we're best friends. We're gonna be those friends that sit together on like a porch when we're old and gray in rocking chairs.
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B
Yeah. We specifically said like besties.
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A
When we're old and gray, we're gonna be best friends. Like when we're old and gray in rocking chairs.
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B
And that's literally was like 20 minutes into meeting each other.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Having absolutely no concept of an idea of anything. What would follow.
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A
What would follow. So that was, that was a huge like moment that wasn't what I was gonna think of. But this moment for me at least was like a moment that I was like, oh, God is doing something. And we. There's something with us that he's doing. It was our first workshop in Malibu, California. This was the one that I'd FaceTimed her about and asking her.
- [41:54]
B
I wasn't thinking. I was thinking about a different. I didn't know. I. I didn't know which way you were gonna go. Continue.
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A
Okay, I wanna hear what you're the one you were thinking.
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B
Okay.
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A
Okay. We were, we were preparing for this workshop. This workshop also God story, sold out within a matter of hours. Blew the socks off of us. We thought maybe it would sell out. Maybe in a matter of months. Sold out in a matter of hours. It was wild. It was such a God story. Um, but we were preparing for this workshop and I was like kind of hesitantly. I mean, keep in mind, Lindsay and I had met at that point. I'd flown out to Hawaii to hang out. So we'd hung out. Like, no. Like a couple of times.
- [42:29]
B
I thought of another memory. Sorry, continue.
- [42:31]
A
Okay. We have a lot of history. We have like 10 plus years of history with all these memories. Anyways, I had. We'd met in person a few times, but it wasn't like hosting this workshop. Like, it was definitely like the first, like one of the first, like real whatever. And so I was kind of hesitantly like, hey there. I really felt like God said to me at entering this house of this workshop, that we were hosting this Airbnb that we were hosting this workshop at. I felt something off in the house, like spiritually felt weird in the environment. And I was.
- [43:04]
B
There was also, I feel like just like some artwork around that was like very New Agey. It just like there was something that.
- [43:11]
A
Just felt spiritually weird.
- [43:13]
B
Like I remember there was a few paintings in some of the rooms that we were like, can we like take those down just for like the week.
- [43:18]
A
Yeah, there was something, something felt off, but we hadn't talked about it at all. We, we. We brought in a bunch of like the groceries or supplies and then we.
- [43:25]
B
We were clearly both. We knew both of each other were believers. Totally same worldview.
- [43:30]
A
We totally knew we like were both believers and loved God and you know, talked about him in our businesses. Like, I knew that, right? But it was, I was like really torn because I was like, there is something spiritually that feels weird about this house. We'd left to go scout a location and then we came back and I was really wrestling internally, like, do I bring this up to Lindsay and do I say like, hey, I think we need to pray and anoint, like basically this whole house. I think we need to pray over each of the girls rooms. I was like, is that going to be super far for her? Like, I just didn't know fully where you stood on like something like that.
- [44:03]
B
Being like, because someone could like believe in God but not like believe or just have different. Just like, yeah, that sounded just have.
- [44:11]
A
A different like theological like perspective about certain things. And I just. We weren't close enough in that sense that I fully knew where you stood like on like, like things of the spirit and like, like, yeah, just like the prayer and like, whatever. And so I was like, okay, I'm really like, I'm worried this could freak Lindsay out. Being like, hey, I want to walk through the house and pray over everything. Like, you know, I didn't know where you.
- [44:33]
B
Whereas like that was like, right. I was like, yeah, that was done.
- [44:36]
A
It was the moment right up my alley. I was like, hey, do you like, I feel this about the house? And you were like, okay, yeah, let's, let's totally like, let's pray. I was like, can we pray over like each of the attendees rooms, like the girls rooms? And you were like, yeah, totally. And I just remember this moment. I was in one of the, the rooms in the lower floor, like the basement. And we were like walking around and praying and it was a moment that you locked in, in prayer that I just like Sat back and I was like, oh, we are so completely on the same page about, like, God and the Holy Spirit and the power of the Holy Spirit and our like, like, authority in Christ in the spirit realm.
- [45:14]
B
And like, it was it when I started speaking in tongues.
- [45:16]
A
Yeah. I didn't know if you wanted me to.
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B
I don't care.
- [45:19]
A
Like. And I know everyone has different belie. On. On tongues and everything, but, like, so bear with, you know, whatever. I have no judgment one way or another, but I didn't know where you stood on that. And so I was like, kind of like in my head, kind of like, quietly, like, you know, speaking in tongues or whatever, like, praying. Like, I was just, like, understanding. And you just started going off in the background. And I was like, bro, we are in this together. But I was like, something. There is something here. It was a moment for me that I was like, there's a partnership here that God has led us into.
- [45:50]
B
Yeah.
- [45:51]
A
And that was, you know, the beginning of the first workshop. I still had no idea where it would go, but that was. That was a key moment for me.
- [45:57]
B
That's. I don't experience that. I didn't even remember that moment from the same way, but probably because it's.
- [46:01]
A
Like, you may have known a little bit more where I stood, especially because you knew the ministry school that I went to and things like that.
- [46:07]
B
But I just. I think for you. Because that was like a revelation in that moment for you.
- [46:11]
A
Yeah, it was like a key memory, right?
- [46:13]
B
Yeah, I have a memory. This wasn't on my list. And I don't even know if you remember this. It was during the Hawaii workshop. I think it was the first week. So this was like our second workshop that we had ever done. I remember it was one of the nights, like, we always stay in, like, the same room in whatever, like, lodge or place that we're in or whatever. And in this house, we were. It was that night, I think it was like, on the day two or three or like, enough time had passed that the girls were, like, bonding and getting together. And I remember maybe it was after day three, because I think it might have been. I can't remember. I remember one of the girls. I don't want to say her name just for privacy purposes, but, like, I remember one of the girls, I think had posted something on her stories or something about, like, that week. I can't remember. Maybe she tagged us and that's why we saw it. I'm not sure, but I remember reading it and like, we read it together in The. In the room. And it was just like her like.
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A
Like.
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B
Like being like, this week is genuinely changing my life. Or it was something like that where it was like, I can't even believe how empowered I feel, how closer to God I feel. Or it was something like that.
- [47:18]
A
I think she was saying she had felt. So if I remember correctly, it was something like, I felt worthless before coming here.
- [47:26]
B
Yeah.
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A
And I finally feel like I see my value in. In God and in others. I feel seen and loved for the first time in a long time.
- [47:34]
B
And I remember, like, we read that and, like, looked at each other and just, like, started crying.
- [47:37]
A
Yeah. I remember that.
- [47:38]
B
And I was like, like, wow. That was. That was another moment that I was like, okay, like, this isn't just a fluffy photography workshop. Like, not that it can't be that. And not that something can't be fun and just, like, a vacation for girls. Like, that's. There's value in that, too. But I was like, no, this is something that is so moving that, like, it's. It's like, has God's fingerprints all over it.
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A
Yeah.
- [48:01]
B
So that wasn't on my list either. Yeah. The one that I was thinking was, oh, airplane dude. Military. Marine man. Marine man.
- [48:12]
A
That was an iconic.
- [48:14]
B
Really fast. And then we can end, like, really, really fast. The first time. Evie, this is on also. She dated Landon, and then they broke up for a minute. And in that moment, when she broke.
- [48:23]
A
Up in a minute, we were. It was like a year, year and a half that we were broken up.
- [48:26]
B
That was when she called me, was like, let's do a workshop together. This was in January of 2018. I think it was her first time coming to Hawaii. And the intent of that trip was to plan and launch the workshop and.
- [48:36]
A
To get to launch the workshop, things like that.
- [48:38]
B
But on the way there, she was flying from Ohio, or I think. And she's single. Right. And so she.
- [48:47]
A
I just remember she's about to board.
- [48:49]
B
Her flight and there's. Is he in a military uniform?
- [48:52]
A
No.
- [48:52]
B
How did you know he was a Marine?
- [48:54]
A
Because we talked.
- [48:55]
B
Oh, okay. So she sits down, ready to board or, like, not boarding yet. I think I'll just let you take it, because I don't know this part.
- [48:59]
A
Well, there was. There was backstory even there. I still have all of those texts.
- [49:04]
B
Texts? You don't delete any.
- [49:06]
A
I don't delete any text.
- [49:07]
B
Do you just buy more storage for your phone?
- [49:09]
A
Yes, because those texts are iconic. I can't delete them. I have to have them.
- [49:13]
B
I really Wish I was that kind of person.
- [49:15]
A
Because I. I'm so sentimental. You don't understand. I save voicemails from all of my closest, like, family and friends and people as voice memos. And, like, I pull them off of, like, my voicemail, but, like, I keep them because I want.
- [49:27]
B
Are you paying to the cloud? To Apple?
- [49:29]
A
I think it's like $10 a month.
- [49:30]
B
Month.
- [49:30]
A
Oh, it's not too bad.
- [49:32]
B
Okay, Maybe like the two dollar a month. Because I feel like it. There's like a jump. Okay. Anyways, continue.
- [49:37]
A
Well, okay, so I think the context, we were just goofing off, texting his.
- [49:41]
B
Number or like, later.
- [49:43]
A
Well, that's okay.
- [49:44]
B
Sorry.
- [49:44]
A
You and I were texting back and forth. We were goofing off because I was like, like, she was like, I boarded my first flight or something and I was like. Like, I look like trash. Hopefully I don't sit next to, like, a cute guy or something.
- [49:55]
B
Because you're like, I smell bad.
- [49:56]
A
I smell bad. I look bad. Whatever. I think this was my first flight or something from Ohio to, like, la Ohi and I. There was like, a cute guy had come up to me or something, like, sitting next to me in the. At the gate, waiting to enter or something. And I was like, texting you, like, bro, this guy, like, won't leave me alone. Something.
- [50:11]
B
And that wasn't Marine man.
- [50:12]
A
That wasn't Marine man. So we were talking.
- [50:13]
B
She's just fending off the men.
- [50:15]
A
We were just texting and talking about that. And then I board my second flight and I was like, watch me. Like, I look worse, smell worse. Something like that. I was like, watch me sit next to, like, the cutest guy. I literally. I, like, I was still boarding in the aisle, walking back, and I look at, like, my seat number. Very attractive young man sitting in the aisle. And I was in the middle and I literally texted you. I was like, SOS hottie right next to me, whatever. And it turned into this whole saga. And he and I chatted and he told me, like, oh, I'm stationed out, you know, in Oahu. Like, whatever. And he's like, you know, in the Marines. In the Marines. We were talking. I was like saying something about, like, oh, yeah, you know, my friend lives out here and going out. Like, I, you know, would love to. Or like, I'm gonna try to surf while I'm there if I can, you know, with her. Whatever. He's like, oh, my gosh. Like, I surf. Like, we should, you know, meet up or something like that. Like, let me get Your number or whatever. So, like, I got off the plane, I was like, sos like he got my number, whatever. And then you came into the terminal to pick me up.
- [51:13]
B
Also. Also, there had been enough. You met him before boarding enough to text me about it. Because what I started doing then was I started screenshotting our entire text message.
- [51:25]
A
No, it was the first guy. That's why it went on with the. The. The first guy. Hold on.
- [51:29]
B
But I thought the whole concept was Marine Man.
- [51:31]
A
It got to Marine Man. Marine man was the. The man we were really talking about.
- [51:36]
B
Regardless. Whatever, man. It was.
- [51:38]
A
There was enough.
- [51:38]
B
There was enough talk.
- [51:40]
A
I didn't realize I still have his contact under Marine. He's in my phone as Mr. Marine.
- [51:46]
B
What if we just call him up right now?
- [51:48]
A
No.
- [51:48]
B
What if he's a father with children? He probably is, honestly.
- [51:51]
A
Anyways, this was years ago, guys.
- [51:54]
B
I was. I was screenshotting our entire conversation. Obviously, I think I told you that or got your permission, but sharing it all to Instagram. And at that. This was like the first public, like, introduction of our friendship. Really, like, because I was like, hey, my friend Evie is coming to visit me in Hawaii. She is single as a Pringle and she's meeting these hot men on these flights. And like, we. I was just sharing the entire play by play. And so now I got all of my followers in on it and, like, super stoked. And they're like, oh, love story. Rooting for Evian Marine Man.
- [52:27]
A
I literally have all of these.
- [52:29]
B
And so they boarded their flight and I was just like, I. I, like, updated everybody. And then I was like, well, she's on a six hour flight, guys. Only time will tell.
- [52:37]
A
It was literally because then I got.
- [52:39]
B
To the airport, filmed myself like, walking up to, like, trying to find.
- [52:43]
A
Trying to find the Marine Man.
- [52:45]
B
You ran. We ran to each other, hugged again. The first time we were waiting each.
- [52:48]
A
Other through the bags.
- [52:49]
B
Mendocino, when we first met.
- [52:51]
A
Yeah. And we were waiting through the bags and I was trying to subtly, like, point him out.
- [52:53]
B
You're like, here he is. And I was like, creepy zooming.
- [52:57]
A
Damn.
- [52:57]
B
Anyways, hindsight, I don't really think he was that hot.
- [53:01]
A
No, no, he. He was. He was. He was handsome.
- [53:06]
B
That's it.
- [53:07]
A
It was so fun. I literally have all of these. I. You said, let me guess. You were laughing.
- [53:14]
B
Wait, you scroll back to 2018.
- [53:17]
A
You just search keywords and then you can pull it up. I have it all.
- [53:20]
B
And it goes that far back.
- [53:22]
A
That's why I keep all my 10.
- [53:23]
B
Years of text in your phone.
- [53:25]
A
Yeah.
- [53:26]
B
And it only costs you $10 a month. What have I been? But I deleted it.
- [53:29]
A
Don't delete them.
- [53:30]
B
Well, it's too late.
- [53:30]
A
You said, true love starts with a snort.
- [53:33]
B
Because you snorted.
- [53:34]
A
This was with the first guy. You said, I just put this on my story. Hope that's cool. I said, that poor guy is now famous on Lindsay's. Lindsay's. Graham. Graham. Lord almighty. You said, he shall remain nameless. Oh, my gosh. I go. He was like, this is the first guy. This wasn't Marine Man.
- [53:51]
B
He doesn't even have a name.
- [53:52]
A
He was like, should I ask for your number just so she doesn't feel victimized. And you go, did he? And I. I told him. Wait, did he? No.
- [53:58]
B
Wait, what did he say? Should I.
- [54:00]
A
Should I ask for your number? Just so she doesn't feel victimized. You don't feel victimized.
- [54:04]
B
Wait, so you told the first guy that you were telling your friend about the interaction?
- [54:09]
A
Apparently. Apparently I was very bold.
- [54:12]
B
Yeah.
- [54:12]
A
And then I go, oh, my gosh. My seatmate on this flight is cute too.
- [54:16]
B
Help.
- [54:16]
A
And you go, the saga continues. Have a good flat, five hour flight. That's a long date. I said, he's a Marine. Oh, my gosh. Introduced himself. So cute. Help me. And you said, oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Probably lives in Hawaii. I go, the Lord is faithful and good, except I look like shiz. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. What? You go, I'm literally putting this entire thing on my stories. You can't write movies this good. I said, if any of these guys see these stories. He shook my hand. Brown hair, blue eyes, tall. You go, wait, is the Marine married? I said, no, but he's hot as heck. He said, you said, he shook your hand. Shut the front door. A gentleman. Forget Australian guy. Oh, the other guy was Australian.
- [54:55]
B
Oh, okay.
- [54:57]
A
I go, new toy.
- [55:02]
B
I vaguely remember putting this all.
- [55:04]
A
New toy.
- [55:05]
B
You really are an OG. If you followed us when this from Mr. Marine happening.
- [55:11]
A
Wow, my deodorant wore off. And I smell like cow poop. I literally am sitting next to my dreamboat man, and I smell like shiz. Why? Why, why, why? You go, he's a Marine. He smelled worse. You're fine. Anyways, I have literally, there are so many messages.
- [55:32]
B
I remember screenshot in the entire thing and just play by play, all of it. What a time.
- [55:37]
A
So funny.
- [55:38]
B
What a time.
- [55:39]
A
You said, my friend Jay Lee, who is married to a marine, said to Be careful. Marines will wife you. I can't. Okay, okay. I gotta stop. But that's iconic. We have a lot of good memories together.
- [55:51]
B
That was a bonus memory. We didn't even think about that one until now.
- [55:55]
A
I love it. I'm literally dying. Laughing. Okay, well, that was good. Hopefully you enjoyed a little peek behind the scenes of some of our favorite memories.
- [56:02]
B
Evie and Lindsay Lore.
- [56:03]
A
Yes. We have a lot of history over a lot of years, and we are just grateful to be able to do this. What did you do?
- [56:08]
B
Just. I'm just thinking about it.
- [56:10]
A
We are so grateful to be able to do this podcast together, to build a business together, and to have you along in the friendship buttons.
- [56:17]
B
Deep.
- [56:17]
A
Honestly. Yeah. Love it.
- [56:19]
B
So good.
- [56:20]
A
Hopefully you enjoyed this episode. If you did, honestly, please just send us a dm. Tell us which one of your memories was your favorite, which video clip was your favorite?
- [56:28]
B
All the things.
- [56:29]
A
All the things. And hopefully you just got a laugh and a little chocolat today, and we'll see you on the next episode.
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B
Sam.