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Evie McLeod
You are listening to the Heart and Hustle podcast. We are your hosts, Evie McLeod and Lindsay Roman. Today, my friend, is gonna be a nice little pump up episode for you. If you've clicked on this episode, you've probably read the title and you are listening to this in a time hope. Well, not hopefully, but regrettably when you need it.
Lindsay Roman
Whether you need a pump up, you need a pep talk.
Evie McLeod
Whether you are feeling imposter syndrome, whether you are just down in the dumps, or whether you are struggling in the journey of entrepreneurship. Because there are times in this roller coaster of business that can be up and that can be down. And whatever brings you to this episode today, we just pray that this serves you, that this touches you and this gives you the pump up that you need.
Lindsay Roman
So, all right, it's going to be a short, sweet power punch. Get ready to get some tough love. Let me guess, right about now you.
Evie McLeod
May feel a little defeated in the productivity department. No matter how hard you try, you just can't seem to cross anything off.
Lindsay Roman
Your to do list.
Evie McLeod
Your mind is moving a million miles per hour, but focusing. Focusing on completing one little task feels impossible because of the endless day to day distractions. Hey, we are all in the same boat. There are so many distractions in entrepreneurship.
Lindsay Roman
Let alone life itself.
Evie McLeod
Being productive is an age old struggle.
Lindsay Roman
Now while it can feel hopeless at.
Evie McLeod
Times, trying so hard to get everything done, there is hope you can be more productive and find freedom and more time in your life and stop from spinning your wheels. I am here to tell you it is possible. We are here to help you, which is why Lindsay and I are sharing some of our favorite ways to boost your productivity and find freedom in your workday. Head to theheartuniversity.com productivity for a freebie on our favorite ways to better manage our time and actually end the day feeling good about what we accomplished.
Hey.
Sarah Crook
Hey. I'm Lindsay Roman.
Evie McLeod
And I'm Evie McLeod and we are.
Lindsay Roman
Family and legacy focused serial entrepreneurs and the founders of the Hart University, a business education company with a mission to help you thrive in your business and life.
Sarah Crook
Welcome to our Entrepreneur cocktail hour where.
Evie McLeod
Business and marketing strategies meet faith, real talk and raw and life changing conversations.
At the end of the day, we.
Lindsay Roman
Are all in this together figuring out.
Evie McLeod
How to navigate the ups and downs.
Lindsay Roman
The messy and the beautiful and everything in between. This is a community where you can come as you are, get inspired and walk away equipped to build a legacy filled life.
Sarah Crook
You're listening to the Heart and Hustle podcast.
Evie McLeod
All right.
Friend.
Lindsay Roman
Here is your short and sweet, to the point encouragement, tough love, practical advice, all the things you might need to be hearing today. So we're just going to get straight into it. Here's one reminder that you may need right out the gate. So slow progress is still progress. I don't care if you are crawling, inching forward, if you are moving forward, if I don't care like what is happening around, you could be like absolutely drowning in a full time job or you know, there are 10 kids absolutely clinging to your, your legs at all times and you just feel like you, you know, your forward momentum is slowed significantly. I don't care what it looks like, if you are inching forward, that is still forward progress and still making progress. Sometimes slow progress is the best progress. That's the only thing you can do in this season and that is okay. You're still moving forward.
Evie McLeod
And especially I think when in this day and age we always compare ourselves to other people. I think it can be so easy to look at. Even if your progress is slow, you're comparing it to somebody else who's at least based on online perception seems like their progress is faster.
Lindsay Roman
They're on, they're in the fast track lane because that's at least to your.
Evie McLeod
Perception based on online, which is not always real.
Lindsay Roman
And let's be real, maybe they are in a different season. And that's kind of what we have to assess too is, is that comparison of they may be in a different season of life or business, they may have different resources available to them or you know, have made different life choices, set different boundaries. There's just so many different factors. So don't compare and just recognize that you're still moving forward and you're still making progress. Even if it feels like you are inchworming along. You are like a slug who is just barely making forward progress. You are still working at it. And that's enough for now.
Evie McLeod
The next reminder we have for you today is it is okay to ask for help. You were not born to be in a silo. You were not born to chug it all alone. Whether you're receiving this for like life inspiration or even business strategy inspiration, you can't do life alone and you cannot do business alone. Even if you're solopreneur ing it, you still need a community support in your corner. You still need people to talk to. You still need people to be there.
Lindsay Roman
For you, a mentor, a coach, community friends, people who have been where you've been, who are where you are. There's so many different things and different seasons where you need people in different ways.
Evie McLeod
I want to say if you are asking for help, like, whether that's as simple as, like, oh, I need help with childcare and I'm going to go ask my mom or a friend or something like that, or I can tell that I need help with this skill and I need to outsource it in something like that. That does not mean you are a failure in that thing. No, that means you are a wise enough to actually ask for help and humble yourself enough to be like, I cannot do this alone. I'm going to get somebody else in my corner to help do it. Because again, you're not meant to be in a silo and you cannot do it alone.
Lindsay Roman
Yes. All right. The next thing we have for you is that failure, quote unquote, means you're trying to. And failure, quote unquote is inevitable. Just know there are so many scenarios in life where failure actually was simply an opportunity to learn how not to do something or our limitations or to find a boundary to recognize that maybe we don't want to work with that client moving forward or, you know, whatever it is. Failure, I feel is so easily. We take it as such a negative thing in our lives and our businesses. We take it as, this is a reflection of me as a human being or this is the end of the world that something didn't work out the way I thought it would. But I want to encourage you to reframe failure. If you're not failing, you're not trying. And failure in and of itself, if we reframe it and think of it as something more, as, hey, I learned a lesson. This was a stretching opportunity. This was a growth opportunity. And in order for me to reach my ultimate goals, I have to be learning, growing, trying, being stretched, being strengthened. There might be a couple of, you know, accidental speed bumps or wrong turns along the way, but I'm again, forward progress. I'm moving forward. I'm at least heading. I made a wrong turn, but I can get back to my. My path and that's okay. And I got to see something beautiful along the way. Sightseeing. Sightseeing.
Evie McLeod
I also think mentioning the comparison thing on social media, again, rarely does people. That grammar was not correct. But rarely do ever people. No, that still was bad. What am I trying to say?
Lindsay Roman
Rarely do people ever. Thank you.
Evie McLeod
That's 100. Rarely do people ever share their failures publicly. Some people do, but I think more than not off, more than not. If it's super Embarrassing. Or if it's super, like, oh, wow, that was like, clearly, I tried something, I launched something, and that just went badly. You usually don't publicize it. And so because we don't see the failures in, like, the same way that we see everyone else's wins, we think that nobody else is failing. And so that when we fail, we are the only ones that suck. And that's not true. Everyone sucks. Yay.
Lindsay Roman
Well, I think. I think we've. We've shared this before, but you're often comparing your absolute worst with somebody's absolute best.
Evie McLeod
Yeah.
Lindsay Roman
And that's a really hard comparison to make. And it is such a deception. It is such a facade. So don't do it. Also, I just want to encourage you on this topic of failure and what failure means. I want you to go do some research on your own today. If you need a little extra kick after this episode, go do some research of, like, the top, like, most successful people who failed in life. There are lists of people. I'm talking Oprah Winfrey. I'm talking Steve Jobs. I'm talking Thomas Edison inventing the light bulb. Like, I'm talking people that you look at and you're like, man, they are the most successful, the most accomplished, the most skilled and capable. You will see. Like, I believe, if I'm quoting correctly, Oprah Winfrey was fired from a newscaster position, told that she would never be good on tv, that she should never do anything with tv. I'm sorry. Let's just. Let's just laugh at that. Let's. So I just want to encourage. Go look at the stories and the testimonies or ask friends, families, other people in this industry that you're maybe feeling like, a frustration of. I did this, and it didn't go well. Ask somebody else. Hey, did you ever have an experience like this? And just sometimes hearing the stories of others and recognizing that, hey, this is a normal part of life, of business, and it does not make me a failure, and it is just simply a sign that I'm trying. And it's such a good, strengthening lesson learning opportunity that we all need in our life, in our business.
Evie McLeod
When I was in, like, sixth grade, I was told from a band teacher that I couldn't play the flute. And then I did.
Lindsay Roman
Lindsay's empowering life testimony for you.
Evie McLeod
Sorry, maybe I should clarify. I became, like, I think I was first chair at one point in time in the band for flute. Like, I. Like, I played the flute in high school and middle school. I don't play the flute.
Lindsay Roman
Now, I love that you're, like, in sixth grade.
Evie McLeod
Here's my empowering moment.
Lindsay Roman
I love it.
Evie McLeod
Okay, it's an example. You get it. Anyways, we're moving on.
Lindsay Roman
I brought up Oprah Winfrey and Steve Jobs, and you go, I was in sixth grade.
Evie McLeod
Once I played the flute. That teacher told me I couldn't, and I could. Dang it. Anyways, the next reminder that we have for you today is that her win does not equate to your loss. I'm gonna let that settle, and then I'm gonna say it again. Her win does not equate to your loss. When someone else. When you see somebody else out there, that's killing it. That had, you know, 10k sale months, or they hit 50k on Instagram, or they did all these amazing things that you're like, oh, wow, I've been trying to do that. Or even like, hey, you and your best friend are booking weddings in the same city, and she got the booking that you both got inquiries for, or something like that. It does not mean your loss. Just because somebody else wins or. Or gets something that you didn't does not equate to your value. The way that we look at it, is it that thing that they got or that accolade was meant for them at this time? Yes. And that does not mean that you.
Sarah Crook
Will never get it.
Evie McLeod
That does not mean that you are worthless. That does not mean that you don't deserve it. You are just on a completely different journey from them. And that comparison has to stop in order for you to fully step in and own who you are. How God made you, your journey, your business, your family, your life, all of it.
Lindsay Roman
I love it. Yeah, I can't agree with that one. Enough.
Sarah Crook
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Evie McLeod
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Sarah Crook
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Evie McLeod
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Sarah Crook
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Lindsay Roman
I wanted to kind of end with a little bit of a practical one. If you're in a season where you feel like you're in a rut, you're a little stuck, you're feeling overwhelmed, you're feeling like, you're not making any progress, whatever. I just wanted to give you one practical thing in today's conversation, and it is the concept of, like, the five minute principle. Now, there are studies and scientific, you know, research done on this, but oftentimes when we feel paralyzed in work, in life, in things in front of us, the biggest obstacle and the biggest hurdle that we have to overcome is simply beginning. It's that first, the principle of, like, initial resistance. Like that really, that first resistance of starting something, of sitting down and doing it, of getting up and doing it, whatever that looks like. So there's actually been studies done that show that if you kind of like trick your brain by telling yourself, I only have to do this thing for five minutes, and I'm gonna set a timer for five minutes and I'm gonna get up or sit down or whatever the task is, I am going to get up and for five minutes only until this timer rings. I'm gonna work on that and then I can quit. It's like a way to almost trick your brain. Most of the time when that timer goes off, I would say like 90 ish percent of the time, 90 plus percent of the time when that timer goes off, you realize I'm already in, I'm already, like, invested. My feet started it. Like, my hands are wet. Like, I'm just finishing the dishes, whatever it is. Like, my, my clothes are dirty. Let's finish this. Like, it's just that concept of like, I've begun, Let me just finish it. And most of the time, not only do you get that initial momentum, but, but you realize that there was something with this project, this task, this idea, this whatever that felt so daunting and so intimidating. But realistically, yeah. Was not as daunting, complicated, or intimidating as you thought. It's like this principle of, like, the monster in the closet. And you're like, oh, my gosh, it's so scary. I see him as big, bad, like, terrifying. You literally all you have to do sometimes is stand up and turn on the light and you'll be like, that's a ratty, dirty old coat. It's not that scary. You know, move it to the closet next door. Whatever.
Evie McLeod
Has another practical example. It's not as bad as the flute one. Not that that was bad. That was applicable. Me and Andrew had been putting off registering our cars for a while.
Lindsay Roman
You're doing your registration?
Evie McLeod
Yeah. Thank you. That's what I meant. And we kept giving emails and we, I think we waited until like the, the day that they were due. And the email was like, you cannot drive your car after this day. I mean, it didn't say that, but that's basically what that meant. And so Andrew was handling something else and he's like, hey, can you just take that? I know that that is probably like a task. And in our brains it equated to like a lot of paperwork going in person because often things like of legal and tax type of things require in person stuff. And I, I, he forwarded me the email to renew it and it was like, hey, if you need to renew, click here. And I, and I was like, okay, let's start this paperwork. I click on it. It took me to an invoice that I could just pay for it online. And then I paid for it and it was like, congratulations, you're renewed. And I was like, you've been putting.
Lindsay Roman
That off for like weeks.
Evie McLeod
No, like a month or so. And, and we were like, oh yeah, that was too easy. And oftentimes we build up this thing. And now sometimes things actually are more complicated or, or as complicated as you might envision. But still the five minute rule of sitting down and actually starting them, it, you start it and it makes that resistance easier.
Lindsay Roman
Yeah.
Evie McLeod
You find out that it's simpler.
Lindsay Roman
Your biggest obstacle, which is that first resistance that like that initial, I mean about starting up, like to ride a bike. I'm talking like you already, maybe you already know how to ride a bike. I'm not saying learning to ride a bike, but you, the hardest part is getting that first, like is those first few pedals are the hardest part. That's the part where there's the most resistance. You're gaining the momentum. It is the most difficult part of it. Once you have the momentum going, it's you're just cruising. You can like, you know, pause the, your feet, your pedaling for a little bit. You can just cruise. You can, you know, whatever. It's that initial resistance is the principle that is the hardest for us to overcome. So even tricking your brain a little bit and being like, I only have to do this for five minutes and you can also quit after five minutes if you want. But oftentimes that's, you've gotten through the hardest part and then you're there and you're ready and maybe you need to use that for a couple times on that project. Maybe you're, you know, working on tweaking something on the back end of your business and it'll take a little bit of time to get it all done, but you use that Hack a few times, you set five minute timers a few times to get you started and then your momentum just continues. So hopefully.
Evie McLeod
Or there's maybe like an admin task that is just, you know, you're not an admin person and just been looming over your head every day in the back of your mind, oh, I need to do that, I need to do that, I need to do that. So this is just like your fun little pup. Pup. No, your fun little pep up talk to get off your ass and do it. Because you can do it. Okay? You can do it and we believe in you. And this is your reminder that if you are just procrastinating, you, one, are.
Sarah Crook
Capable, two, you're able to do it.
Evie McLeod
And three, go freaking do it. Stop procrastinating. Stop saying no for yourself, stop saying no for other people. If you're. Whether this task is an admin task or whether this task is a thing that you've been wanting to do, you've been wanting to reach out to that person.
Lindsay Roman
Yeah.
Evie McLeod
But you're afraid of getting a no. You're afraid because somebody else got something that you wanted and you're just like, oh, yep, get off. Get off your booty.
Lindsay Roman
I just, I just had the thought and I just want to throw this at you, kind of ending this episode. Little pep talk. Are you happy with how life feels and is right now? Because I think so often we, we're working towards something. We want to, you know, bring in a little bit more X amount of money to help support our family or to save up for that vacation or, you know, whatever it is. There's like, there's these goals. These things are like, I want to be the mom who, you know, has a little bit more free time with her kids and I just need to get this workflow set up on the back end so that this is more automated. I can or I need to just outsource this, hire this person. But it feels so daunting. Whatever it is. Usually there's, there's a reason, there's a goal of why we have certain things that we want to accomplish, to do, to, to reach. And I just want to ask you if you're feeling. In a season where you're like, I just feel like I'm in a rut or I'm, I'm not motivated. I'm discouraged. I feel, you know, defeated or burnt out or something. I just want to ask you, are you happy with how things currently are? Because if you are, that might be an amazing sign that maybe you can like, readjust some of your goals and your perceptions and like, slow down and give yourself permission to just enjoy and live where you are. But maybe you're in the place where you're like, I absolutely have to have more time with my kids. Then I want to encourage you. Like, are you just living with this, like, sense of like a weight and a frustration over like your heart and your mind and your thoughts, like day after day after day? And it's not leaving personally, like a little tough love, like, maybe address it head on and be like, what do I need to do to get this feeling to go away, to ultimately like accomplish this, this goal, this thing? Like, what do I need to shift? Because I think it's really easy for us to just walk through life with like kind of this weight on us of like, I'm not doing this, I'm not doing this, I'm not doing this, I'm not doing this. And it's like, like, you are the only person in your life who can take charge and actually change what is going on in your life. So get up and really take the time to assess and be like, maybe I need to get off my booty. Maybe I need to take a nap.
Evie McLeod
Like, maybe I'm burnt out and I have been getting off my booty too many times.
Lindsay Roman
I think it's just, just recognizing. I just want to encourage you. Like, you are the. I hesitate to say this because it could, it could sound like wrong, but you are the author of your day to day life. You are the person who gets to decide what your days look like, what your life looks like, what your goals look like, what your emotions look like at the end of the day, you know, like, if I'm constantly feeling burnt out and dread and overwhelmed, like, what do I need to change? What do I need to change to make that shift? So I just want to encourage. Like, you are not powerless in what you're feeling right now. Whether you need to take the time to slow down, to assess or you know, what you need to do, you're just procrastinating. You're putting it off, you're dreading it. Like, make the shift, whatever it needs to be speeding up, slowing down, changing directions, like, just this is your time. If you're feel, if you're listening to this episode because you're like, I need help. I need. I am at an absolute, like, crossroads right now. This is great. This is an incredible opportunity for you to really assess and to really shift directions if needed.
Evie McLeod
So take this episode whenever you're listening to it as a little love nudge from us to start going after the thing that you need to do or start doing the thing that you need to do, or maybe start slowing down if you're in much needed or if you're in a season of a much needed break. Yes. So take this as whatever little nugget of encouragement you need in your life today. But we hope that this blessed you, that this encouraged you, that this put a little bit of a fire under your booty to go out and make it happen for yourself, as well as to rely on God and to just trust the process. Yes.
Lindsay Roman
We love you, friend. We hope this was an encouragement. If it was, feel free to DM us. We our DMs are always open and we just are cheering you on as always. We'll see you on the next episode.
Evie McLeod
Sam.
Episode #464: Entrepreneurs, Listen to This If You Need a Pep Talk
Hosts: Evie McLeod & Lindsey Roman
Date: December 23, 2025
This episode is a concise, energetic pep talk for entrepreneurs feeling stuck, discouraged, overwhelmed, or battling imposter syndrome. Evie and Lindsey offer tough love, real talk, and actionable advice to help listeners push through difficult seasons, overcome comparison, reframe failure, and reignite their motivation. With relatable stories and practical tips, the hosts remind creative business owners that progress—no matter how slow—is still progress, and that they have the power to shape their business and life.
Acknowledgement of Struggles:
Entrepreneurship is full of ups and downs, and difficult seasons are normal and universal.
"There are times in this roller coaster of business that can be up and that can be down." (Evie, 00:28)
Purpose of the Episode:
A short “power punch” full of tough love and encouragement for entrepreneurs who need a boost.
"This is going to be a short, sweet power punch. Get ready to get some tough love." (Lindsey, 00:41)
Comparison Trap:
Progress can feel painfully slow compared to others, especially online, but forward is forward.
"Sometimes slow progress is the best progress. That's the only thing you can do in this season and that is okay. You're still moving forward." (Lindsey, 03:07)
"It can be so easy to look at... somebody else who's at least based on online perception seems like their progress is faster... which is not always real." (Evie, 03:28)
Seasons Differ for Everyone:
Life and business stages, resources, and boundaries are unique—so focus on your lane.
"They may be in a different season of life or business, they may have different resources available to them, or ... have made different life choices, set different boundaries." (Lindsey, 03:49)
Community is Essential:
You can't build a business or a life alone; seeking support is wise and necessary.
"You were not born to be in a silo... Even if you're solopreneuring it, you still need community support in your corner." (Evie, 04:24)
"That does not mean you are a failure in that thing. No, that means you are wise enough to actually ask for help and humble yourself enough to be like, I cannot do this alone." (Evie, 05:11)
Failure = Attempting Something New:
Failure is inevitable and critical for learning, refining, and growth. If you’re not failing, you’re not trying.
"Failure, quote unquote, means you're trying to. And failure, quote unquote, is inevitable." (Lindsey, 05:44)
"Reframe failure... as something more, as 'hey, I learned a lesson. This was a stretching opportunity.'" (Lindsey, 06:28)
Comparison and Social Media:
We only see others’ highlights, not failures, so our personal setbacks feel bigger.
"Rarely do people ever share their failures publicly... And so because we don't see the failures... we think that nobody else is failing. And so that when we fail, we are the only ones that suck. And that's not true. Everyone sucks. Yay." (Evie, 07:31)
Examples of “Famous Failures”:
Oprah Winfrey, Steve Jobs, and others faced rejection and defeat before success.
"Oprah Winfrey was fired from a newscaster position, told that she would never be good on TV... Let's just laugh at that." (Lindsey, 08:09)
Abundance Mindset:
Other people's achievements do not diminish your worth or opportunities.
"Her win does not equate to your loss... When someone else... is killing it... it does not mean your loss. Just because somebody else wins... does not equate to your value." (Evie, 10:08)
"That does not mean that you are worthless. That does not mean that you don't deserve it. You are just on a completely different journey." (Evie, 11:15)
Science-Backed Motivation:
Overcome inertia by giving yourself permission to just start a dreaded task for five minutes.
"Studies... show that if you kind of like trick your brain by telling yourself, 'I only have to do this thing for five minutes,' and ... I'm gonna work on that and then I can quit, it's like a way to almost trick your brain." (Lindsey, 14:36)
Most Tasks Aren’t as Hard as We Imagine:
Starting is the hardest part; once begun, tasks usually feel more manageable.
"Oftentimes we build up this thing... it took me to an invoice that I could just pay for it online... And I was like, you've been putting that off for like weeks... that was too easy." (Evie, 16:56)
"Your biggest obstacle, which is that first resistance that... starting up, like to ride a bike... those first few pedals are the hardest part." (Lindsey, 18:06)
Intentional Living:
You have the power to shape your daily life, adjust goals, and correct your course.
"You are the author of your day-to-day life... You are the person who gets to decide what your days look like, what your life looks like, what your goals look like, what your emotions look like at the end of the day." (Lindsey, 22:30)
Tough Love Encouragement:
If you’re unhappy or longing for change, get honest about what needs to shift and take that first step.
"You are not powerless in what you're feeling right now... Make the shift, whatever it needs to be—speeding up, slowing down, changing directions... This is an incredible opportunity for you to really assess and to really shift directions if needed." (Lindsey, 23:32)
“Sometimes slow progress is the best progress. That's the only thing you can do in this season and that is okay. You're still moving forward.”
— Lindsey, 03:07
“You cannot do life alone and you cannot do business alone.”
— Evie, 04:27
“If you're not failing, you're not trying.”
— Lindsey, 06:29
“Everyone sucks. Yay.”
— Evie, 07:47 (lighthearted encouragement about universal failure)
“Her win does not equate to your loss.”
— Evie, 10:08
“Your biggest obstacle, which is that first resistance that... initial, I mean about starting up, like to ride a bike... those first few pedals are the hardest part.”
— Lindsey, 18:06
“You are the author of your day-to-day life... You are not powerless in what you're feeling right now.”
— Lindsey, 22:30
Evie and Lindsey close the episode by encouraging listeners to take at least one step—however small—toward what matters most, and to remember that they’re not alone in the journey. The tone is warm, energetic, and compassionate, providing both motivation and the permission to make changes or simply rest, depending on what’s needed in this season.