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Joe P. Zapia
This is the Fantasy Football Podcast. It is me, Joey P. Joe P. Zapia, and today you're gonna get the best of night one of the 2025 NFL Draft right here on Fantasy Pros, straight from our live stream on YouTube. Last night we covered the entire first round of the NFL Draft and guess what? We'll be back at it doing it today on Friday as well. Day two. Join us at 6:30pm Eastern. Watch the second and third rounds of the NFL Draft live with our experts breaking down every single pick the way you want to know. Fantasy style. That's right, get instant fantasy reactions. And the team of course consists of me, Joey P. Pats Morris, Derek Brown, Ryan Warmley, Scott Bogman and others as the draft unfolds. Coverage begins again Friday, April 25, 6:30pm Eastern on our YouTube channel, Fantasy Pros. Go to YouTube.com/fantasy pro. Subscribe today and ring that bell to let goes ding. So without further ado, let us get at it and let's talk about last night, shall we, and what went down with all of the action from round one of the NFL Draft. All right, let's talk about Cam Ward, the inevitable first pick of the draft. It's not official yet. The pick is in, but we all know what it is. Barring some sort of insanity, he led the FCS with 24 passing touchdowns, just four picks. He ranked fourth with 2,260 passing yards third with 183 completions on 303 attempts, and that was in 20 and 21 as the continued to move on here, he went to Washington State in 22 and 23 and then found himself in 2024 where he was the ACC Player of the year for the Miami Hurricane. So Davey Bryant award winner as the nation's top qb. All of those pieces are here, Pat, that you look at Cam Ward now still, people will say, well, he stacks up a little differently when you're looking at Cam Ward against some of the other quarterback prospects we've been used to the last few years. That being said, he's going to go number one overall. We have Roger Goodell here on the podium on the day s and Cam Ward is officially that first pick. So let's talk about him because it was an incredible season, he said an NCAA record with 150 passing touchdowns in his career. Cam Ward, what is the future for him with Tennessee? An organization that you don't always think about when you're looking for great quarterbacks, at least not in the last few years.
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Pat Morris
Well, I think they are hoping he can be their new Steve McNair and sort of carry the torch for the franchise. And like his tools, Joe, he has all the tools to be an above average NFL starter. But I do have concerns sometimes about the decision making and, you know, he wants to play hero ball a lot of the times and, and make the big play. And he's gonna have to learn to tamp down some of his worst instincts. Otherwise he is going to one day be the answer to a trivia question about who was chosen number one in the Travis Hunter Abdul Carter draft.
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Joe P. Zapia
That's a good point there, dbro. Let's get your thoughts on Cam Ward. A guy, you know, look at the numbers here. 43 touchdowns, seven picks, and last year in 2024, a guy that, you know, I, I think people look at and they say, you know, maybe there's some growth left when it comes to Cam Ward, maybe some things he can certainly continue to work on. But it seemed like the consensus was pretty clear among scouts that he was the best of this quarterback class. That being said, is he the best fit to turn around the Tennessee Titans?
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Derek Brown
We could split that up. I mean, like, for me, he. He wasn't my quarterback. One of the class. I understand. I. I think if you're taking the shot on absolute upside and what Cam word could become and trying to get into that upper echelon of elite quarterbacks and if he Hits his true ceiling. I understand it personally for this team. I think Shador Sanders and Jackson Dart are better fits for the the type of offense that Brian Callahan runs. But you know they're taking a shot on upside and I understand it, man. Like I. I've got my questions and worries about Cam Ward. The high end moments are extremely good but there's a lot of variability in between. It's a lot of he's very, very similar. And why my trepidation about Caleb Williams last year?
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Joe P. Zapia
Dbro you look at the team needs, I assume we're either moving up for Carter or moving up for Hunter. I think those are the only two things that make sense here. We got a new head coach. It's an offensive minded head coach to write Duvall himself. But it would seem like the best talent on the board is on the defensive side of the football. So where do you think we might be going with this pick with 3 minutes left on the clock?
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Derek Brown
I think, I think this is 150% Travis Hunter. I don't think they move that they make this move if it's not for a wide receiver or cornerback. Like. And I think with this move, I mean correct me if I'm wrong, boys, I think this means Travis Hunter will be a full time wide receiver. Like are you making this move up for a cornerback? If you're going to play him full time cornerback, they need corner.
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Joe P. Zapia
Pat, I think he becomes. I think he gets his wish. I think he gets his slash wish here where he gets those packages of wide receiver and you know you're going to sell a ton of jerseys. He's going to be the pick is in Pat that I think he gets to do both. And I think this might be what that deal was like. Maybe Jacksonville was the team that would allow him to live out that dream the best of any team. And that seemed like the best fit. Could that be Pat?
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Pat Morris
It could be Joe. But I think dynasty enthusiasts are probably less than thrilled about this because it seemed like he was going to be a wide receiver first in Cleveland and that might not be the case with Jacksonville.
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Joe P. Zapia
There you go. Travis Hunter officially now a member of the Jacksonville Jaguar. So Pat, here we go. Every single mock we've done out the window already and we're only going to pick two. How's that feel?
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Pat Morris
It does. It does feel a little rough. We did not get the player team match there, Joe. I mean technically we had Travis Hunter correctly penciled in for number two. We just, we didn't get the team fit right.
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Joe P. Zapia
But however Speaking of fits, the pink tuxedo jacket looks pretty gorgeous.
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Pat Morris
Gorgeous.
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Joe P. Zapia
I gotta say. It's only two people can pull off pink like that. One of them is Travis Hunter. The other is Derrick Brown. Debro?
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Derek Brown
I thought you were gonna say Ericson.
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Joe P. Zapia
No, no, no. I think you could pull it off. You know, you're. You're good with the loud colors. I think you're very good with that. He's the only player in FBS with 10 plus receiving touchdowns there. And some of the things he does. Unbelievable. He averaged 111 snaps per game in 23 to 24. I mean, it's just absurd. I mean, you're getting a freakish athlete, a unicorn in terms of their ability. So what does Travis Henner mean as he's dancing his way onto the main stage? A beautiful moment for him. A very special talent and a unique talent. So what does he bring now from a fantasy perspective to the Jags?
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Derek Brown
Oh, man. I mean, the skill set is just. It's unique, dude. And I think considering what we're going to see out of him, it's. It's still a black box. Like, are they going to play him full time, both spot, both sides? I don't know, but I think he is a game changing talent. I think fitting him with BTJ is fantastic.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, certainly, certainly intriguing here. Now we're going to move to the third pick here in the draft, Travis Hunter, obviously now a member of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We know how special he is, we know what he's capable of and hopefully this works out here. Interesting. Just from the sense too that you're getting a player who, you know, when you hire an offensive mind ahead coach, typically you see, you know, maybe they kind of lean towards the offensive side. That was not the case, but certainly a special year for him as well. He'll add 23 catches, one touchdown as a corner on 41 targets. He was a lockdown corner. Pat, could you give us a sense to where he is if people try to understand his corner skills? For those people who might not, you know, watch a lot of college football. Is he a true lockdown corner in your mind or just an incredibly skilled athlete?
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Pat Morris
I think he's going to be a lockdown corner pretty quickly in his career. Like, he just, he's such a phenomenal athlete and he has great ball skills. It's not totally about just pure athleticism. I mean, you will see him occasionally play zone and sort of like bait the quarterback into making a throw that he can break on and intercept. Like he, he has some football smarts too, Joe so yeah, I mean that's the thing is he's so good at cornerback that his new employer is going to be compelled to play him there a lot because we've talked about this. If I think it's easier to play him at cornerback full time and then have some offensive packages for him because it's going to be really hard to play him at receiver full time and cornerback part time. If some receiver is destroying your defense and you think he is your best cover man, are you really going to want to limit his snapshare when some Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase like receiver is is laying to waste your defense?
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Joe P. Zapia
Genti is indeed the pick here now for the Las Vegas Raiders. So the jets don't get that multi backfield after all. Astro Genti Lil Mar goes to the Raiders. I like this from a fancy perspective. Dbro I think this is great. I think it gives them identity, I think it gives them toughness. I think Pete Carroll's the right guy there. I know he's 112 years old, but he has got the vigor of a young Andrew Erickson and I think this is a great situation here. You're talking about a guy who led the NCAA with 2600 rushing yards, second most in FBS history, 185 and a half rushing yards per game. That's the most since ladanian tomlinson in 2000. Incredible stats here. So let's talk about Ashton Genti to the Raiders.
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Derek Brown
Debro can we say that he should be in conversation to be a first round pick in fantasy fantasy drafts this year? Ashton Genti should absolutely be a first round pick in fantasy drafts and ranked as a top five running back. And I don't think either one of those things are crazy, but people are probably going to say that they're crazy. He's going to get all the volume he can handle. And I think the thing that's gone under discussed the entire time about Ashton Genti is his pass game upside. This dude has CMC level upside as far as his pass catcher. So we know in this office, yeah.
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Joe P. Zapia
Man, he's smaller back but still.
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Derek Brown
I mean he's small but he is built.
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Joe P. Zapia
He's small but he's strong.
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Derek Brown
Yes.
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Joe P. Zapia
Pat, let's talk about him. Fantasy value. We know what it is in Dynasty. We understand the value of him. What is in redraft though as we start to look ahead to 2025?
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Pat Morris
Pat now that we got the fit with the Raiders? Joe I think it's late first round. I think it's around 1:10.
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Joe P. Zapia
I agree.
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Pat Morris
Chip Kelly operates his offenses at a breakneck pace. They are going to be probably top five in the league in offensive pace, which means more plays, more opportunities for touches. I mean this is just. Yeah, it's, it's wheels up for Ashton Genti as a rookie and I would not be shocked if Ted McMillan was the pick here, Joe.
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Joe P. Zapia
Oh, you know, I would have a problem with that if I was a Carolina Panther fan. That defense needs so much for Ted. Well, I don't care no over. You have a problem with Ted not addressing the defense first and foremost.
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Pat Morris
That was the.
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Joe P. Zapia
That's my problem.
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Pat Morris
They gave up 31 points a game last year and the next closest team gave up like 27.8.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, if you're gonna, I mean you better score 38 points a game. Like, I mean that's we're gonna have to do here if you're gonna try to win games in Carolina. It's not that I don't like Ted McMillan. I do. But I just don't think you can continue to go this route on the defensive side. You've gotta do something against the run here. Look at these needs edge, defensive tackle. I know they need wide receiver, but they also need corner and safety too. D bro, I know you're a fantasy guy, but for a football standpoint, you really think they could take a wide receiver here and not go defense first?
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Derek Brown
Yeah, I do. Because if you're not, how are you going to give Bryce Young a true chance to prove if he is the franchise quarterback or he's not the franchise quarterback with the skill players as he had that he has around him right now? I mean a starting quarterback, wide receiver, mashup of Adam Thielen, Xavier Leggette and Jalen Coker. Look, I love Coker as much as anybody else, but like Leggette was getting out targeted by Thielen and Coker last year. How do you answer the question of is he your France franchise quarterback or not? And yeah, like the other side of this is those five needs that we have listed on on the screen right now, three of them. Being on the defensive side, drafting one defense guy is not going to save that defense. There's still going to be terr.
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Joe P. Zapia
You're right, one guy isn't. But I'm also talking about the guys who, you know, I'm talking about the team of the Carolina Panthers last year that covered a lot of games at the end of last year. Pat, you remember this, and I do too, that they were competitive, they couldn't stop anybody. They were already in games and they stuck in games and they hung around in games and even, you know, threw some shade at some other teams, right? Took some teams of overtime. The Carolina Panthers could not stop anybody. So to Debro's point, I get it. You want to give the young quarterback an elite weapon, but you still got more picks to go. I think you got to do something on the defensive side first. So it looks like Pat and I are wrong. So the old farts are not going to get it here. It looks like it's going to be Ted McMillan here, which it's not official yet, but so far, our sources. So let's talk about it, though, because from a fantasy perspective, DBRO, this is not my favorite landing spot for Ted McMillan. I'm sorry, it's just not really. Well, because I'm not a big Bryce Young guy. I think he played better, but I.
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Derek Brown
Look like volume, right, Joey?
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Joe P. Zapia
Well, okay, so sell me on Ted McMillan. 84 receptions last year, eight touchdowns. Let's talk about Ted McMillan. Why do you like him in this landing spot? And then we'll get Fitz's take.
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Derek Brown
I mean, dude, he's gonna play inside, outside. He's going to be their unquestioned alpha wide receiver. If we believe at all that Dave Canelis can coordinate an offense, which I mean, we just talked about, they were competitive last year with everything they had and didn't have, and now we're giving Bryce Young a true wide receiver one. And I'm sorry, I'm gonna throw some shade here, boys, too. I was told Tedro McMillan was too slow to be a top 10 pick and that history was on the side of him not being a top 10 pick. Well, it didn't happen. Hopefully it didn't happen, but, I mean, come on, guys, like, what's the floor of targets for him in Carolina this year? 130, right. With a ceiling for a crap ton more. Am I wrong?
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Joe P. Zapia
130 targets. How many catchable balls in there, Pat, what do you think?
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Pat Morris
Good point.
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Derek Brown
Are we just saying Bryce Young played better down the stretch or we just.
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Joe P. Zapia
We're not.
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Derek Brown
We're not talking about that now.
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Joe P. Zapia
I. I think the run game helped quite a bit. Chuba was very solid down the stretch there for them, and he's still there.
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Derek Brown
Offensive line still there.
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Joe P. Zapia
I know, but Pat, let's get your take here. It's not that I understand the volume can be there. I get it. I still have a lot of questions about Bryce Young at this level. I think it's he played better, but he is, he is not at that. He's not in that level yet where I feel like I'm excited for his weapons. I think that's the point that I'm making. Papa, what's your point?
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Pat Morris
I do understand the urge to try to maximize Bryce Young's chances of success by improving his weaponry because I think this is, and I can sort of answer Carson Hill's question in the chat with this when he said, which is the wide receiver who's on the out? Xavier Leggett or Jalen Coker? I think it's Legat. I think this is just a capitulation that an acknowledgment that the Legat pick was a failure and, you know, they need a new outside receiver and you know, I don't think tat's going to fail, but yeah, I just, I think they should have gone defense. But I, I do like tat and.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, I like tet. I, I, I, you know, projection in my head right Now, I'll say 908 yards and four touchdowns. That's what he gives you.
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Derek Brown
Wow, that's some haterade, Joey.
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Joe P. Zapia
I'm not being, I didn't hate. I'm being, I'm trying to be what.
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Derek Brown
Really numbers Erickson right now.
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Pat Morris
What were those numbers?
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Joe P. Zapia
Well, let's, I, I said 908, four touchdowns. That's what I gave you.
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Derek Brown
I mean, come on, Chad, Y y is Joey on point here?
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Joe P. Zapia
Well, Alexander's got an interesting thing here. We'll. Well, I'll continue drafting and playing players against the Carolina Panthers because that's how bad team stay. Yeah. Because the Carolina, like I want who's playing the Carolina Panthers every week because they've missed out on a first round defensive talent, which means now they've got to hit defense often. And I'm not going to crush them yet. I'm going to watch and see what they do Day two with the other picks they have. They've got a lot of picks coming up still. Maybe they find some gems, maybe they work it out, maybe they do it with volume. Okay, I'll accept that. In which case that I like this Ted pick a little bit more. Thumbs up, thumbs down, Dbro. Thumbs up on Ted McMillan anytime.
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Derek Brown
I'm gonna drive so much Ted McMillan this year in fantasy. I already know it, dude.
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Joe P. Zapia
So thumbs up from Dbro. Papitz Morris. Thumbs up or thumbs down for Ted McMillan.
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Pat Morris
I gotta go thumbs down.
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Joe P. Zapia
That means I'm the tiebreaker. I'm going thumbs down too.
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Derek Brown
Oh, look at that. Oh.
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Joe P. Zapia
Joaquin Phoenix. That's where it went everybody.
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Derek Brown
There's nothing young about all these takes.
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Joe P. Zapia
The birdies tell me it's colston loveland at 10. So wow. So Pat, if this is indeed true and so far we are nine for nine on this, do you think Colston Loveland is well the prince that was promised for this offense here?
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Pat Morris
I asked the question earlier Joe. Are we so sure that Tyler Warren is the best tight end in this draft? Colston Loveland is two years younger, has longer arms and like his stats don't pop out at you the way Tyler Warren Stats from 2024 do. But there were some mitigating circumstances. One, Michigan was extremely run heavy in their national championship season. Two, their quarterbacking was a complete dumpster fire last year. But like Loveland has a lot of potential as a pass catching tight end and maybe some blocking upside too. So it's interesting. I mean we're going to see a lot of 12 personnel I guess because they just re signed Cole commence to a multi year deal and so you've got Loveland, Cole, Comet, DJ Moore.
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Joe P. Zapia
Maybe you don't Comet, maybe they go somewhere else in the next two days. I could see. I, I think there would be teams lining up for Cole commit to be honest with you. I think there's a lot of teams that would make sense. But he like to be reunited with his best friend Justin Fields. That wouldn't be so bad. You know those two had a pretty good rapport.
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Derek Brown
It's fair.
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Joe P. Zapia
So let's talk about Colson Loveland from a fantasy perspective here. Debro. We have seen the ceiling of glass shatter for rookie tight ends in the last couple years, right? Pitts had a huge rookie season in terms of yardage. We've Sam Laporta, we've seen Trey McBride, all these incredible young tight ends come in and hit the ground running. Can Loveland be that guy for the Chicago Bears in this system? With this quarterback and this new head coach who by the way did a pretty good job with Sam Laporta, my hope is yes.
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Derek Brown
My worry is if Cole commit stays there, are they gonna play loveland like a 60, 70% snapshare like route share? I. I'm hoping that that the Bears are smart enough to do this and that that he plays well and then he gets the full time role. I my question also, and I guess like I'm not trying to throw cold water on this is we still haven't seen Caleb Williams support any weapons, much less multiple weapons.
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Joe P. Zapia
Well I guess you could. So Keenan Allen for some of the year.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, but I mean, like. And none of those wide receivers had good years statistically. None of them. Not even DJ Moore.
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Joe P. Zapia
But. Okay, so counterpoint to that, could he have possibly gone into a worse coaching staff with a worse offensive coordinator and a worse head coach? So I, I think Ben Johnson's a great offensive mind. I think he was going to take. Look, if you give any terrible offensive line to work with too Pat. My counter argument is I think the landscape is much better year over year, theoretically in Chicago to possibly support Loveland as being a tight end. 1. Maybe somebody ranked as what, 10, 11, 12 in redraft. I could see that.
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Pat Morris
Yeah, Joe. And by the way, you talked about the recent success of rookie tight ends, and one of those was Sam Laporta, who had that success with his play caller being Ben Johnson, who's now going to be the play caller for Colston Loveland. So I think there is a path for Loveland to be impactful if indeed we see Caleb take the next step. And the Bears have improved the offensive line and they've gotten him a better offensive choreographer and Ben Johnson. So we are positioned for Caleb to take a step up if he's capable of it. Now they. They are doing everything they can to make things easier for Caleb, and now.
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Joe P. Zapia
Warren would fall right in the lap of Indianapolis. So that's a good one here from Jazz. Mead in the chat too, if Warren's the guy they want. This was just right in their lap, too. So a top 10 pick on a tight end, too, you don't see that very often. Young man Russell Brown is here, one of the best minds in all of the college football space. Russell, I want to talk to you about what's going on so far because I'm sure there's a lot for you to digest, a lot of things. Boise State running back Ashton Genti goes to the Raiders, Pete Carroll and running backs, this is a good fit for fantasy.
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Andrew Erickson
It is 100. I mean, this, this is one that I think protects Geno Smith in a sense, but it also gives the Raiders an identity. They need to go in and build something on their offense. And they were the worst rushing offense in the NFL last year. So it makes so much sense to draft him, build around him, and I don't want to say run him into the ground, but use them 20, 25 times a game and use him all over the field because he's a home run threat anywhere on the field.
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Joe P. Zapia
Let's go to Ted McMillan. Arizona wide receiver goes to the Panthers, we were kind of split about this. Debra loves Ted McMillan. I love Deb McMillan. Pat likes tech. We all love him. I love the landing spot. So what side do you fall on here, Russell?
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Andrew Erickson
Well, I mean, reading the tea leaves. Early through the draft process, the Carolina Panthers head coach said, we want to put weapons around Bryce Young. And they stuck true to that through this process. And they go and get their guy. True number one receiver. Just from his size and his build, he's a prototypical X. And they can move him around because he's so versatile and athletic. So if they want to make Xavier Leggette the prototypical X, go ahead. But you have two big body targets on the perimeter now, which is important for Bryce Young. As we've seen, he doesn't always throw the greatest pass in the world. He's going to run around and just throw one up and throw a prayer and that's going to be perfectly fine because Te McMillan can come down with it. He plays with great body control. He high points the football. He does have shorter arms. So sometimes those physical press man corners are going to make some plays of the catch point, which is different for guys like Drake London and Michael Pittman. They're a little bit longer there. But at the end of the day, Ted McMillan makes a lot of sense at eight. He can run like the wind blows. We've seen it. The run after catch ability is electric. So I think it's a great pick at 8. A little rich, but I think it's a good pick. I really do. I think it's one of those that you're building around the quarterback and you just, you have to. Because you got to go all in on Bryce Young. If not, they're back to square one.
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Joe P. Zapia
Oh, you can go all in on him.
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Derek Brown
That's just not fantastic analysis.
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Joe P. Zapia
Just wonderful. I don't think you're gonna out. I don't think the Carolina Panthers.
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Derek Brown
I love that analysis, Russ.
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Joe P. Zapia
That's beautiful. You're gonna have to have score teams. All right, I'm glad. I'm glad you have a friend. Maybe you are related. Maybe you actually are both Browns after all.
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Derek Brown
He's got good takes, man.
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Joe P. Zapia
Do you think we got our second tight end here? Dbro? You think that's where we're going?
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Derek Brown
I'm just going chalk, dude. I'm gonna say it's gonna be Tyler Warren because he's still on the board. We've all talked about it. The thing that I could have that. What's up, buddy?
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Joe P. Zapia
It is Tyler Warren. That's who it is.
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Derek Brown
There you go. The only thing I thought that would have kibosh Tyler Warren going to Indy was Dallas Goddard being on the trade block and that familiarity with Shane Psyche and then them going another direction because tight end was filled. But Tyler Warren, I mean, the chalk of the chalk. I mean, a little bit of sanity. All these other picks were like mocking for weeks and months and we're like, oh, it's gonna be this. And then the NFL's like, Ah, no.
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Joe P. Zapia
Tyler Warren, 2024 John Mackey Award winner, school record, 104 receptions in 2024. This is, this is a dude. This is a guy who brings some edge to him, to something I think the Colts lacked a little bit at times last year. So Russell not the first tight end selected, but we did get two in the first round, which is historic for sure. So Tyler Warren, the question now is what's the quarterback play going to be and how impactful is he going to be in fantasy? Russell?
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Andrew Erickson
Yeah, I think he's going to be very impactful just simply because of the way you can utilize him in the offense. Right. You can play him as a Wildcat at times. And I'm not saying he's Taysom Hill because he's certainly not as fast as Taysum Hill, but he can play in line, he can align in that Wildcat, he can play in the slot, he can play out wide. He's going to obviously have a role in the run game, but you're looking at him to catch passes and he can do that, I think in the short and intermediate areas of the field. But he's also got some pretty good run after the catch ability. And just because of how athletic he is, like, I think back to that Maryland game, Drew Aller had a broken play, kind of shuffle, passed it to him to the sideline, and he hurdled like one defender, almost two defenders just without even moving. So I love the move movement there. And he's going to be that safety valve that they really didn't have. I know that's the common term for tight ends. You want that safe guy in the middle of the field. Well, Tyler Warren's going to do that. He's not going to be able to wear number 44. Dallas Clark was 44. I believe that number is retired in Indianapolis, so it'll be interesting what he wears moving forward. But this is such a Colts pick and I love it for them. And it's, it's a building block for the offense that can certainly use another pass catcher.
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Joe P. Zapia
Debro this is a great question from Clint in the chat. Again, drop your questions in the chat. We love the conversations. Wonder if Warren will fall farther than he should in some rookie drafts now. I think Clint's onto something here. Debro I think you could see this happening where people are very skeptical of the quarterback situation there. If Richardson makes enough progress, Daniel Jones, whatever's left there and regardless if it's neither of those guys in dynasty leagues, he becomes at a huge value because if you get him cheap and all of a sudden that quarterback situation turns into something new in the next two to three, three years you have yourself quite a talent at the tight end position. But it might be rough in year one.
- [28:26]
Derek Brown
I, I preach it year every year over year over year if I can even talk right now. This all comes down to talent, man. You make bets on talent situation, head coaches, quarterbacks, all these things change and they change rapidly in the NFL. So you bet on the talent with Tyler Warren, man. Yes. If he falls too far and he probably willing a lot of drafts because people are going to say the quarterback situation, I'm just not, I'm not playing that game. And and to add on, I think this is a fantastic pick by the Colts too because you, you just look at their pass catchers. You have all these route winners and guys that play station to station. How many guys in that offense right now are an easy button for the quarterback that can offer yak ability? Like you give them something underneath and they're breaking two and three tackles and giving your your offense easy button yards. They don't have that guy but now they do. It's how the Warren you know when.
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Joe P. Zapia
Boggs. I want to get your take on the earlier selection of Ted McMillan to the Carolina Panthers, because that's what I've been grilling everybody on. DBRO is very excited about it. Fitzy and I were a little bit more lukewarm. Russell Brown was more on the Derrick Brown side of things. So I'm curious. It's again, it's, I like the player. My concern is, is Bryce Young really a quarterback? I want with Ted McMillan and I just don't know if that answer is yes. For me, from a fantasy perspective, that, that's, that's my take. I think it's okay. It's not what I was hoping for for Ted McMillan, but Boggs, what's your take?
- [32:37]
Bogman
I love it for Ted and the reason I love it for Ted is because his team has no defense at all. How could this not be a defensive pick is my thing. They gave up the most rushing yards in a single season in NFL history last year. The, you know, J.C. horn is like their only good defensive player. That's not Derrick Brown. And Derrick Brown towards ACL late. So I knew DBRO was going to be all over this. It's the first thing I said when they picked him. I'm like, we are never going to hear the end of it from dbro. He put tet to Carolina in so many mocks and it actually happened. And I think it's great because they have to play point for point with everybody now like that. This is what you have to do. They saw Ted as the bpa. A lot of Mike Evans comps, you know, a big, tall, rangy guy with a big catch radius. And I think that's pretty good for Bryce Young. Doesn't have the arm to get it down the field to him all the time, but he doesn't need to go, you know, pick up the first down and keep moving and keep that crappy defense on the sideline. I like, you know, get first downs and drain the clock. Should be the name of the game for the Panthers with no defense right.
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Joe P. Zapia
Now, the wide receiver, it looks like Egbuca is actually going to be the guy that goes. Oh, wow. 81 receptions last year with Ohio State. Over a thousand yards, 10 touchdowns. Boggs is a bit of a shocker for you.
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Bogman
It is surprising because I just don't think that they need another wide out. I'm with Fitz in that regard. McMillan was pretty good. You resigned Chris Godwin. Mike Evans is old, but he's still a stud. So a little surprised by this. But Heg Buka is a good pick. Professional route runner, tight, crisp speed, is not far behind the route running. He gets to a spot in a blur. He makes fluid first steps. He will do work in traffic and he gives his team a cushion. He was pushed more to the slot and they have two slot guys last year played 81% of his snaps there. He's had some ankle issues. His adot was a career low last year and he's not breaking too many tackles. So he's a very good player, a good wide receiver. Don't love this for fantasy and at least not for his rookie season.
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Joe P. Zapia
That that's Interesting take, too, but I think long term, Fitzy, you know, Mike Evans is not a young man. He's been in the league a very long time. Chris Godwin's had multiple big injuries and coming off another one. This is probably a very smart long term selection where if Evans, you know, does hit a wall with age this year and Godwin struggles to get back on the field healthy, you really don't have as many wide receivers as you think. And now you have Egg Buka and Jalen McMillan. I think this is kind of a savvy future pick here where the Bucks are a pretty good team. You know, they have holes like every NFL team, but at the same time, taking Igbuka here is a very good look to the future for Baker Mayfield and for his fantasy value. Maybe not the best fantasy value out of the gate in year one, but projectability in dynasty leagues I think might actually be, you know, kind of appealing. More appealing than people might realize.
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Pat Morris
Yeah, maybe in dynasty it's not going to crush his perceived value, but, boy, this is messy for redraft leagues and to some extent dynasty too. And. And now what I don't understand is three of your top four receivers do their best work in the slot. I think Jalen McMillan is best in the slot, Godwin, obviously, and Egbuka is a slot receiver. So it's a kind of a curious fit here. I know. Like, I like Igbuka, and I think it's to his credit that he has always been able to produce significantly despite not being, like the best wide receiver on his own team at Ohio State. I mean, last year was freshman phenom Jeremiah Smith. Before that it was Marvin Harrison Jr. And by all accounts, Igboka is a great kid, but I. Man, it is just a weird fit for the Buccaneers.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right? Very weird fit for the Buccaneers, potentially. But again, I'm looking long term. I think this is kind of savvy here. Mike Evans can't play forever, and Chris Godwin, look, you know, we're kind of in this territory where he's taken a lot of physical beatings over the years. Now, wide receiver, there's a bunch of them still left. Egbuca is gone. Dbro, I know you have some feelings about that. Why don't you share your Egbuca feelings about that selection? I. I think. I think they're just looking long term, and I think it's smart. I honestly do. I think they're playing chess instead of checkers with that pick. I really do. But give us your thoughts on that pick. And then tell me, what do you think the Chargers go with this next one?
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Derek Brown
I think the Bucks pick was a horrible pick. Like, I. You're trying to win the division right now. Why in the heck did you resign, Chris Godwin? I understand Mike Evans is a free agent after this year, but why'd you resign, Chris Godwin? Why the hell did you pick Jalen McMillan last year? You didn't need more reinforcements, like, you could have addressed wide receiver next year you need defensive help like corner edge, linebacker. All of these things you didn't have. You don't have the roster for a luxury pick this year. And looking into next year, this is a terrible pick by the bucket.
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Joe P. Zapia
Horrible. Could they potentially trade McMillan tomorrow?
- [37:56]
Derek Brown
I don't think you're. What are you going to get for him? Like, he. He only flashed, like, the last few games of the season. Whenever.
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Joe P. Zapia
Good flashes there, Fitz. I thought I was high on McMillan going into the year. He got right when he got his opportunity, when he got healthy, he came back at the end of the season and looked pretty sharp. Had a run, touchdowns, too, which was very encouraging. Do you think that this is the. I don't know. I mean, a situation where maybe they're not going to go in with all four of these guys into 2025, you would think.
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Pat Morris
But it's funny. I mean, it's hard to make a deal like that and get full return on it. Joe, you know, if they give McMillan away, no one's going to give you a lot. You're going to get pennies on the dollar for him.
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Derek Brown
You wouldn't even get what you paid for to draft it. Right. They wouldn't even get that back. Like, my other thing is, who the heck is playing the slot? You got like two or three different slot wide receivers here. Like. Yeah, when you going four wide? And we got double slots here. Like, it makes no sense.
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Joe P. Zapia
Well, that would make very happy. I was gonna say big. If anybody wants to run that offense, it's Baker Mayfield. I can tell you that right now. That's the perfect guy for that. It seems like a Chargers selection is up next right now, and it's Omarion Hampton is the selection here. So, Joey likey. This is what I've been waiting for. Najee Harris, step aside because Omarion Hampton is here. Now, if you have Najee shares in Dynasty, sorry, kids, it's time to look elsewhere. Sure, Najee will get some work, but Omari and Hampton, I think, is the guy that I want long term in this one. Fitzy, let's Talk about the redraft value. Let's talk about the dynasty value. 281 attempts last year, 1600 yards, 373 receiving yards, and 17 touchdowns for Hampton.
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Pat Morris
Yeah, and Mike Mayer just posted in the.
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Derek Brown
That was giggling the same thing.
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Joe P. Zapia
That's exactly what I was.
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Pat Morris
Kamani Badell. Yeah, so I don't think I agree with you, Joe. I don't think Najee Harris is going to be much of an impediment to a Marion Hampton's value. Off the top of my head, I don't know. What do you think, D, bro? Like, mid to late third round in redraft? Oh, yeah, he's going dpr. Is that. Is that too conservative?
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Derek Brown
I think Naji being there will push people just enough even. Like, it'll make them question the first round capital to where he. He's probably going to stay in. In round three. I can't see him getting steamed up to two, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I mean, I. I definitively think, like, Amarian's getting all the work.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right, well, let's give it a grade, shall we? Thumbs up, thumbs down. It's a. Enthusiastic thumbs up for me. I don't know. She's here. It could be a little messy to start, but patience, I think, gets reward. All the guys say thumbs up, too.
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Derek Brown
Yep.
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Joe P. Zapia
There we go. It's a giant thumbs up for Hampton here.
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Derek Brown
Backup now. Tough scene.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, I. I think so, too, Derek. I think it was smart to do what they did because.
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Derek Brown
Oh, yeah, definitely.
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Joe P. Zapia
I don't think that Harbaugh and company were sitting there going, you know, Hampton's gonna definitely be there. I think he fell in their lap, and I think they decided we're just gonna go with it. And that's the right call. Fitzy, do you think that's the right call here? That they just said, the heck with it, let's just go.
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Pat Morris
Yeah. I mean, they want to run the ball. We know that.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right. I think I'm frozen a little bit here. I think my Internet's.
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Derek Brown
I mean, you froze with blue steel, though, so, I mean, you. I. I didn't know if you were trying to accentuate it or.
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Joe P. Zapia
Blue steel, baby. That's how I roll. Yeah. If you're gonna. If you're gonna freeze, you might as.
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Derek Brown
Well tell if he was frozen again.
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Joe P. Zapia
I'll give you one more time, just in case you weren't ready for it. This is what happens. We are now officially, what, four hours in for me? So this is what Happens. This is why you watch. This is why. Subscribe to the channel, boys and girls. That's what you do here. Let's talk about the Dynasty stuff here, too. Steven's got a question. Does the landing spot peak interest over Genti with the Raiders? I say no. But let's. Let's talk about this. So, in super flex leagues, Pat, what would be your top four?
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Pat Morris
Genty still number one with a bullet.
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Joe P. Zapia
Okay, I agree. Okay.
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Pat Morris
Yeah. Then I'm gonna go. I have to go. I think quarterback Ward versus Hampton is really close right now. I. I think I might have to elevate. Nah, I'm gonna stick with Hampton. Hampton going to a run center. Hampton is 2, Ward is 3, and, you know, tentatively Tet at 4. Unless I like some of the landing spots for other running backs.
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Joe P. Zapia
All right. Is that the same for you, Derek Brown?
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Derek Brown
I'm pretty much in line with Fitzy. I think I would put Ted at 3 only because I think he could split hairs. Like, I still think Ted's going to get a ton of volume, and it's kind of roster dependent at that point, like between three and four. So, I mean, I'm. I'm fine if it's super flex. Yeah, put. Put word over. Over the wide receiver. That's fine.
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Joe P. Zapia
Loving the landing spot here for Hampton. I. I definitely think this is a win for the Chargers as draft capital.
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Derek Brown
It's landing spot. It's everything, dude.
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Joe P. Zapia
Look, you got Naji Harris, a veteran running back who's solid. So if Hampton, you know, struggles or has an injury, you're already okay. So you've covered your bases. You have your cake. You're eating it, too. And they're gonna pound the hell out of the rock. I would like to see them pick up a wide receiver at some point, too, because they definitely need some help there.
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Derek Brown
Tons of good ones in round two.
- [43:37]
Joe P. Zapia
Rounds of good ones still available. So far, we've. Matthew Golden's still on the board. Higgins still on the board. I mean. Yep. Burden still on the board. Green Bay packers need cornerback edge, wide receiver, D tackle. Fitzy. Let's go. Let's wishcast. What do you want the packers to do here?
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Pat Morris
Oh, man. Donovan Azaraku, Mike Green. And I do not want Matthew. And I'd be okay with any of the corners, preferably Trey Amos over Maxwell Harrison, but I'd be okay either. I just. I do not want Matthew Golden. It's Golden.
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Joe P. Zapia
Oh, no. Oh, Fitzy's worst nightmare.
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Derek Brown
Sorry, Fitzy.
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Joe P. Zapia
I'm sorry. You got the best wide receiver in the draft. Fancy. That's my dude. I love Matthew Gold.
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Derek Brown
Sorry, buddy.
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Pat Morris
Brutal.
- [44:24]
Derek Brown
I, I'm so. I feel your pain on this one. I'm, I am sorry.
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Joe P. Zapia
Like, I love Matthew Golden. I think this is great.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, but do you think you have.
- [44:32]
Joe P. Zapia
No other wide receivers down on there? You think you know how many wide receivers you got right now in Green Bay? Zero. That's how many you got. He's never on the field. Everything's a disaster. That's your guy right there.
- [44:45]
Pat Morris
Two years ago. Two years ago, he was the number three receiver for the University of Houston. Yeah.
- [44:52]
Joe P. Zapia
Stop living in the past, Pat. That's in the past. And what was he doing in the college championship catching touchdowns and looking unbelievable in that game?
- [45:01]
Derek Brown
What did you do the whole beginning of the season when Isaiah Bond was healthy?
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Joe P. Zapia
I, I. Look, man, look, I'm not going to hang all of that on Matthew golden when Quinn.
- [45:13]
Derek Brown
Oh, yeah, Quinn, yours is terrible. So. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. That.
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Joe P. Zapia
Don't, don't do that. I mean Matthew Golden. All right, let's chat about it. 58 receptions, 987 yards, nine touchdowns last year. Everybody knows Matthew Golden's my guy. Is this my ideal spot? No. Because there are some other guys in this mix. But you know what? None of those guys you can count on. Matthew golden has speed. Matthew golden has a. A nose for the end zone dbro. I'm gonna give this a thumbs up. What are you gonna give it?
- [45:43]
Derek Brown
Dude, I just. This is the packers saying we like fast players. I mean, that, that's all I can say. Double counting speed. I'm. I just can't see Matthew golden being a high volume wide in a true number one wide receiver. Like, to me, like, give yourself the out and the upside for a guy because they still don't have anybody that could beat man coverage right now. Like, I, I know. Like, if this was. I, I'm.
- [46:10]
Joe P. Zapia
I.
- [46:11]
Derek Brown
No, I don't like this picture.
- [46:12]
Joe P. Zapia
Fitzy looked like he, like he went to the, went to the Golden Corral and they were all out of his favorite side dish or something. He looks miserable right now. He's. He is. He went to the ice cream parlor and he went there and they were like, nope, we don't have that flavor anymore.
- [46:27]
Derek Brown
I'm sorry.
- [46:27]
Joe P. Zapia
Sad, right?
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Pat Morris
Yeah. Brian Gudekinst is just a mediocre general manager. It was a bad pick.
- [46:33]
Derek Brown
He kind of sucks. Yep.
- [46:35]
Joe P. Zapia
Is it the end of Christian Watson, boys? That's a good question.
- [46:39]
Derek Brown
I mean, can we say we. I don't Even know if we've even seen the beginning of Christian Watson because.
- [46:44]
Joe P. Zapia
Well, it was a short story.
- [46:45]
Derek Brown
You know, it's just. It sucks. I don't think he plays most of this season, if at all. It just. It sucks.
- [46:51]
Joe P. Zapia
All right, so, Fitzy, I'm sorry you didn't get what you wanted here, but in the immortal words of Mick Jagger, you can't always get what you want. Sometimes you get what you need.
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Pat Morris
Fitzy, we didn't. We didn't get that in the first round, Joe.
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Joe P. Zapia
No, no, but don't fret. There's still plenty of picks to be made. I love how the chat is emotionally supporting Fitz too.
- [47:13]
Derek Brown
He needs a hug. I wish I could drive up and see Fitzy right now. Yeah, but that man needs a hug.
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Joe P. Zapia
You know, what's. You know, I also did not think we'd have upset fits and happy Bogman. Bogman's happy right now and Fitz is unhappy. I did not think he would be here approaching somebody's team did something smart.
- [47:32]
Derek Brown
And the other person's team did something really stup.
- [47:35]
Joe P. Zapia
So, you know, tough times here. And the worst thing is now we have to move on to the Minnesota Vikings. So like that, I don't know what's worth, like, Fitzy's upset. He doesn't like this pick. Although I will say the fit for Matthew Golden. That's a good looking jacket right there. That's straight out of Casino, you know, with. With Robert De Niro and those guys. This is. This is a jacket. Fitzy got the big giant G. And finally somebody with a tie. Now it's a bow tie, but nonetheless a tie. I respect that. It's a good look here. Oh, here we go. The Giants are on the clock at 25. The Giants and 34, 99 and a 20, 26 third round pick for Jackson Dart. That's what it is.
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Pat Morris
Wow.
- [48:17]
Joe P. Zapia
Dbro, man, the stock has fallen. Andrew Erickson so far still, right? So if you know, Cleveland Browns want to take Shador, they can take him and they can have him. He'll be there for them tomorrow because they've got two picks there in the first four, so. Jackson Dart. 4,000 passing yards. He's got 32 touchdowns last year, six picks. Let's give us your take on Jackson Dart.
- [48:47]
Derek Brown
I mean, I'm in for it, man. Like, look, I know with the Giants getting their quarterback here, I mean, the clock starts now based off of when do we see darts starting? I mean, we know what you're going to get or what you're not Going to get out of Russ. So probably sometime around mid season and I mean Joe, didn't we kind of. Didn't I kind of lay this out like a bunch of teams at the back end of the first round that teams could be trading up for. So that's one trade. Do we see another one? I, it's possible.
- [49:16]
Joe P. Zapia
I don't, I don't think you see it now. I think Cleveland or the Giants were going to blink. Cleveland had two picks and Cleveland had the pick in front of the Giants. So it was the Giants turned to, to flinch and make a move now. Now they're Wilson, Winston Dart and DeVito. So I can only assume DeVito's getting cut. Fitzy, Right.
- [49:37]
Pat Morris
You would think so.
- [49:39]
Joe P. Zapia
But does Winston want to be the third string quarterback? Like that's probably not what he signed up for. Not that it matters, but just saying.
- [49:45]
Pat Morris
It out loud, I mean, I mean.
- [49:47]
Derek Brown
I'm sure they gave, gave him the out like that we might draft a quarterback. I mean it's not like everybody's in high demand for Jameis Winston services these days.
- [49:55]
Joe P. Zapia
Yeah.
- [49:55]
Pat Morris
And I, I mean they might make this a pure red shirt year for Dart too. I, I don't think he's anywhere close to being NFL ready.
- [50:05]
Joe P. Zapia
That, that's fair. Before we, I know we disagree on that, Pitcy, let's run through some Jackson dark. First team all SEC set school career records with 10617 passing yards, 12000 yards of total offense. Led the FBC 10.8 yards per attempt. Had 4774 total yards of offense last year. Ranked third in FBS with 4, 279 passing yards. Started all 15 games and played in the Gator ball. He's MVP. Four touchdowns, 404 yards. That was a big game for him. So look, I like dart. I think a complete red shirt year would be great for him. I think that's exactly what you do. And you have some quarterback capital here. You cut DeVito, you move on. He's not a, you know, not an NFL quarterback. You learned that already. So I, I don't hate this. If that's your guy and it all, it costs you a little bit more to move up to get your guy because you're worried Cleveland likes him, so be it. Let's talk about winners and losers. Let's really get into it. I know we kind of touched on a little bit. I said the Giants were winners, best player of the draft and you got a quarterback. Will Campbell's a winner pick. Ashton Genti's A winner pick. Ted McMillan's a winner pick. I'm in for that one too. Debro. Let's talk about some of your big winners right now and how they stack up from a fantasy standpoint. Give us your big winners of night one of the NFL draft.
- [51:26]
Derek Brown
Like specific players. Are we going with teams here?
- [51:28]
Joe P. Zapia
Specific players on the landing spot and also specific teams as well.
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Derek Brown
I would say for everybody in fantasy. I, I think we're going to get Travis Hunter as a full time wide receiver going to Jacksonville. Maybe I'm wrong with that but I think trading up, I don't think you make that aggressive of a move if you plan to play the kid full time corner. So I, I think this is forever for all of us, especially maybe some IDP people out there. Big win for Travis Hunter and I mean just kind of looking at the board here, I, I still really like the landing spot for Tyler Warren. Like I, I understand the quarterback stuff but Michael Pittman, they can get out of his contract after this year. Alec Pierce, Josh down like the quarterback situation gets figured out if they move on from Pittman after this season and stuff like it's not hard to see that Tyler Warren is still a big winner here and I think I'll just take the low hanging fruit if I'm going to keep going with this. But Amari on Hampton going to a team that wants to run the freaking ball first round. Capital Najee, I'm sorry but bye bye. You're. You're back.
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Joe P. Zapia
Hampton and Genty landed I think almost exactly perfect would want them to land. I mean Denver kind of missed out. They whiff there a little bit on Hampton. So the second choice being the Chargers I think is great. I also think some winners here too. Look Drake May and Jaden Daniels got some extra help on the offensive line. That's a big win for sure. Fitzy when you start to look at the board now that it is going through here and we up our last pick. Give me your winners and losers here. Both the fantasy version for the players but also some of the teams and what they came away with in night one.
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Pat Morris
Yeah. Fantasy winners and losers Omarion Hampton, winner Najee Harris, loser. Clearly like it's just going to a team with such a smash mouth ethos was great for Hampton. Big win for Genty. I love the landing spot and, and going with the to you know Grandpa Pete's gonna run the ball of course and Chip Kelly has that fast paced offense so like those were only the really the only two landing spots I loved for any of the fantasy guys tonight, you know, losers. I don't know about these landing spots for the tight ends. Warren and Loveland. Not, not as cool about the loved one.
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Derek Brown
I'm with you there, Fitzy. Like I just.
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Pat Morris
Yeah, and Egbuca, not crazy about that landing spot either. So guys, what do we think about like the Jaguars Browns trade? Like that was the big deal of the night.
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Joe P. Zapia
I think it's good for the Jaguars. I mean you get Travis Hunter is a very special talent, but I, I can't judge it yet after night one because I don't know what Cleveland's gonna do, you know, coming up next. So if they end up, I, I did not love what they did with that first pick. I mean there was so much board left. Yeah, I didn't think that was necessarily what you wanted to do. There was Mason Graham. Anthony's not a good player, but I think you had different needs you wanted to address. But they have got two more picks coming up in the beginning of round two, so let's see what it looks like. But it's not great to begin with. I also think the Dallas Cowboys could have traded back if they were just going to take Booker. I think they probably could have gotten him somewhere else and traded back and gotten some more draft capital. That, that's where it looks for me. Other losers too. Look, I know you're going to say you're packers too, Fitzy. Like that's, you know, probably another one that you're going to bring up because there were other needs that you wanted to see addressed and frankly they just went wide receiver.
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Pat Morris
Yes. And that might. Not that, not that we were super excited about any of the other Green Bay receivers, but that just further sort of chops up the pie from a team that ran at the third heaviest rate last year too, so. And one more low key winner, and I kind of said it before, but I'll reiterate all the jets skill position guys adding Memboo to what now I think is a top five offensive line.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah, jets are going to be interesting this year. I like Aaron Glenn as a coach. Lots of good things. All right, so those are our winners and losers right now. Night one in the NFL Draft. 2025. Finally, biggest surprise of the night for you, Derek Brown, who did not get selected here in round one. Who is it Shador again?
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Derek Brown
Yeah, it's Shador. And I see Erickson in, in the chat here. Anderson hits again. Yeah, he's right, man. I mean, I mean, dude, but we got what, how many quarterbacks in the first round three. Am I wrong with that one?
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Joe P. Zapia
No. Two Jackson dart.
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Derek Brown
Oh, just two. Just two.
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Joe P. Zapia
Yeah. So that's why I mean hit dude.
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Derek Brown
I mean, I'm surprised.
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Joe P. Zapia
I'm surprised.
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Derek Brown
Yeah, I'm very surprised. Shador did not go in round one. I like, I get where all the smoke has been. I'm still really surprised that it actually happened.
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Joe P. Zapia
Fitzy, who's the biggest surprise non draft of night one for you?
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Pat Morris
Mike Green. I mean he, he had 17 sacks for Marshall last year and just dude was incredible at the senior ball and you know, just the premium the NFL places on pass rushers. I mean like the off field stuff must be pretty bad for him to not get picked in round one.
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Derek Brown
Well, already off boards, a lot of teams boards just because the off field stuff.
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Joe P. Zapia
So there you have it, everybody. That was night one of the NFL Draft and we're gonna do it all again. Night two rounds two rounds three on our YouTube channel. Friday, April 25th, 6:30pm Eastern. Be there. Join us live. Have some fun. Subscribe to the YouTube channel fantasy pros@YouTube.com fantasypros and of course, don't forget to ring that bell till it goes ding. So you never miss a bit of live content because post draft we're gonna have so many shows of the aftermath as well. And we want you to be prepared for all of your dynasty leagues, all of your rookie drafts, all of your redrafts as well. Because football never sleeps here at Fantasy Pros. That'll do it for us. But the story of the game goes on for everybody here at Fantasy Pros. I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time, kids. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy football podcast.
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