Podcast Summary: "3 and Out - Drake Maye & Patriots secure HUGE WIN vs. Ravens on SNF + NFL Week 16 Reaction"
Podcast: The Herd with Colin Cowherd / 3 and Out with John Middlekauff
Date: December 22, 2025
Host: John Middlekauff
Theme: NFL Week 16 reactions – Drake Maye’s standout performance, Patriots’ playoff surge, Ravens’ collapse, AFC/NFC playoff outlook, controversial officiating, emerging teams (Jaguars), and notable individual moments.
Episode Overview
This episode of "3 and Out" centers around the Patriots' comeback win over the Ravens on Sunday Night Football, propelled by rookie quarterback Drake Maye. John Middlekauff dives into the impact of this victory on the playoff race, the state of teams such as the Ravens and Jaguars, controversial officiating moments, and broader league narratives as the regular season winds down. The episode adopts Middlekauff’s candid, opinion-driven tone, filled with sharp takes, a focus on coaching and player development, and rich situational insights.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Patriots vs. Ravens: Drake Maye’s MVP Moment?
Timestamps: 03:38 – 15:50
- Ravens’ Playoff Hopes Dashed: Middlekauff opens by declaring, “Hopefully you are doing better than Lamar Jackson and the Ravens, who I would say unofficially were KO'd tonight from the playoffs.” (03:45)
- Drake Maye’s Performance: Lauds Maye for “a fantastic second half,” highlighting his poise after an early fumble and his ability to make high-level throws, calling his deep ball “a thing of beauty...as good as any in league history.” (08:20–10:20)
- Coaching & Maye’s Growth: Attributes Maye’s development and resilience to New England’s coaching: “Good coaching builds guys up. They don't let their good players and the guys that they're going to depend on go into a hole.” (14:40)
- Game Stats: Maye finished 31 of 44, for 380 yards, 2 touchdowns.
- Comparisons to Russell Wilson and Brady-Moss Connection: Cites Maye’s arm talent and ball placement as early career elite traits.
Notable Quote:
“I would say the prettiest deep ball I've ever seen was like prime Russell Wilson. It didn't get any better. The arc, I mean, it was just… a thing of beauty.” (10:05 – John Middlekauff)
2. Backup QBs and Organizational Stability
Timestamps: 07:00 – 09:20
- Ravens’ Struggles Post-Lamar Injury: Points out the massive gap between starters and backups, but respects Tyler Huntley’s composure: “Really good organizations function at a pretty high level when their backup quarterback comes in… but there’s a massive drop off between those two guys.” (07:45, 19:55)
- Analogy to Bears and Other Teams: Draws parallels with other teams surviving backup QB moments; coaching, preparedness, and organizational stability are highlighted as deciding factors.
3. AFC Playoff Picture & Scenarios
Timestamps: 18:20 – 22:40
- Patriots’ Remaining Path: With the Patriots likely to beat the Jets and a tanking Dolphins team, Middlekauff predicts “Patriots are winning the next two weeks.” (19:46)
- Ravens All But Eliminated: “Their season's over.” (16:40)
- Broncos, Jags, Chargers, Texans, Steelers, Bills, Colts – Breaks down standing, key injuries, tiebreaker scenarios, and why certain matchups matter.
- AFC Wildcard Depth: “If the three wild card teams are the Chargers, the Bills and the Texans, I don’t think any of us would be shocked if two of the three of those teams win.” (21:20)
- Jaguars’ Stunning Rise: “The Jags go from the little small market team to dominating the Broncos today… one of the more eye-opening games of the year.” (05:20, 41:20–45:35)
Notable Quote:
“Could the Jags win the Super Bowl? I mean… why couldn’t they?” (45:22)
4. Controversial Officiating: Lions Game Ending
Timestamps: 24:54 – 33:00
- Fan Outrage over Officiating: “I get texts from buddies about how bad the refs are. And don’t get me wrong, the officiating today was really bad.” (24:56)
- Details the Final Play: Strongly argues the game was properly ended and fans’ complaints are overblown: “There is a thing called forward progress… It was pretty clear he not only didn’t cross the goal line, but they drove him back like five yards.” (26:04, 27:21)
- No Sympathy for the Lions: “Give me a break. When you are making Jalen Warren look like Barry Sanders, I’m not going to feel bad for you… you’re not a playoff team this year.” (28:50)
Notable Quote:
“If they would have allowed that lateral to happen, that would have been one of the biggest con jobs, Ponzi schemes, Fugazi’s in the history of the NFL.” (29:36)
5. Under-the-Radar: Jaguars' Transformation
Timestamps: 41:30 – 48:00
- Media Bias Toward Big Markets: Contrasts Jags/Bears coverage and explains why Jacksonville has been overlooked.
- Liam Coen and Trevor Lawrence: Praises new offensive coordinator and Lawrence’s resurgence (“looked like he's back at Clemson… fantastic today.” (42:10))
- Super Bowl Potential?: Middlekauff legitimately considers the Jags as contenders, listing teams they could beat.
- Broader Point About Coaching Turnarounds: “Ben Johnson has turned Chicago around overnight. Liam Coen has turned the Jags around overnight.”
6. NFC Playoff Picture & “Who Can Win It All?”
Timestamps: 48:10 – 1:03:00
- Packers vs. Vikings, Bears’ Surge: Predicts Packers will clinch, praises Ben Johnson, and outlines the various tie-breaks for playoff seeding.
- Team Matchup Parity: “I could see any team beating the other… That’s what’s really fun about January.”
- NFL & College Parity: Notes how, for the first time, nearly 10 teams feel like they have a legit chance at a Super Bowl.
Notable Quote:
“It’s the first time in a long time that you go, yeah, there are probably three teams that can win the Super Bowl. I don’t know if all 14 can, but I think you could make an argument the number is closer to 10 than it is 3, and that’s cool.” (1:00:01)
7. Individual Shoutouts & League Culture
Timestamps: 1:03:10 – 1:11:00
- Maxx Crosby’s Relentless Play: Even on a bad Raiders team, Crosby is highlighted as “everything you would want for a star player for a guy to build around.” (1:03:30)
- Broadcasting Turnarounds: Compliments Drew Brees and J.J. Watt’s improvement and enthusiasm in the booth:
- “Drew Brees… started really slow, but I do think… he’s an enjoyable listen. J.J. Watt’s been really, really good. Like, he’s got a future in this.” (1:06:35)
- Props to Wealthy Ex-Players Doing It for Love of the Game: “These guys are uber wealthy. They do not need to be getting on a plane… but you can’t fake it. They clearly want to be there.” (1:08:05)
8. Monday Night Prediction & Final Thoughts
Timestamps: 1:11:10 – End
- 49ers over Colts Prediction: Picks Niners -5, expects their offense to be “too good” and highlights key matchups.
- Parlay Tip: Suggests Jauan Jennings for two TDs (“12 to 1”).
- Playoff Picture Excitement: “Let’s just move on, get closer to the playoffs and thank god for those Saturday games.” (1:12:50)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-------------|-------|---------| | 10:05 | "I would say the prettiest deep ball I've ever seen was like prime Russell Wilson. It didn't get any better. The arc…a thing of beauty." | John Middlekauff | | 14:40 | "Good coaching builds guys up. They don't let their good players and the guys that they're going to depend on go into a hole." | John Middlekauff | | 16:40 | "Their season's over." (On the Ravens) | John Middlekauff | | 21:20 | "If the three wild card teams are the Chargers, the Bills and the Texans, I don’t think any of us would be shocked if two of the three of those teams win." | John Middlekauff | | 29:36 | "If they would have allowed that lateral to happen, that would have been one of the biggest con jobs, Ponzi schemes, Fugazi’s in the history of the NFL." | John Middlekauff | | 45:22 | "Could the Jags win the Super Bowl? I mean… why couldn’t they?" | John Middlekauff | | 1:00:01 | "There are probably three teams that can win the Super Bowl. I don’t know if all 14 can, but I think you could make an argument the number is closer to 10 than it is 3, and that’s cool." | John Middlekauff | | 1:06:35 | "Drew Brees… started really slow, but I do think… he’s an enjoyable listen. J.J. Watt’s been really, really good. Like, he’s got a future in this." | John Middlekauff |
Episode Structure & Flow
- Opening (03:38–05:20): Rapid-fire weekend recap, Patriots-Ravens as the main story, teasing further playoff discussion.
- Deep Dive Patriots-Ravens (05:20–15:50): In-depth analysis of Maye, coaching, and Ravens’ exit.
- Playoff Implications (15:50–22:40): Assessing the impact of injuries, schedules, and coaching on playoff fates across AFC.
- Controversial Officiating (24:54–33:00): Extended rant on Lions’ loss, broader officiating critiques.
- Jags/Bears Discussion (41:20–49:00): Explores small market versus big market narratives, coaching impacts, and sleeper Super Bowl potential.
- NFC Outlook (48:10–1:03:00): Playoff standings, team matchups, and surprises, heavy emphasis on parity.
- Player & Broadcaster Spotlights (1:03:10–1:11:00): Highlights grit (Maxx Crosby), evolution in sports media, and the off-field hustle.
- Predictions & Wrap (1:11:10–end): Monday Night Football call, playoff excitement, closing remarks.
Takeaways for Non-Listeners
- Drake Maye’s emergence as an MVP candidate is legit, driven by coaching stability and talent.
- Patriots and Jags are peaking at the right time, while Ravens’ window with current core may be shut.
- The AFC and NFC playoff pictures are unusually wide-open – up to 10 teams could realistically make a Super Bowl run.
- Coaching, organizational stability, and luck with injuries are decisive factors as January approaches.
- Officiating remains a sore spot, but Middlekauff doesn’t think it cost the Lions their season.
- Not all the energy is on the field—ex-players making broadcasting work for love, not money, adds positive energy to the sport.
This summary condenses and clarifies complex narrative threads from the episode, using direct speaker quotes and key timestamps to arm the uninitiated with the episode’s heart, highlights, and strongest takes.
