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John Middlekauff
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Katie Couric
Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Lithgow
Hello, I'm John Lithgow.
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John Middlekauff
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John Lithgow
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John Middlekauff
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John Lithgow
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Actually recorded an interview earlier today with with Greg Olson, FOX broadcaster, former longtime NFL player, tight end, university. I think, I think we'll play that early next week. I'm actually going I'm doing Fox Sports one again Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So I'll be down in LA next week, but I'll still be doing podcasts probably from the hotel room. So nothing will change there. But we'll have great coming out next week. And I thought today I was like, you know what's going on I had some takes. I'm like, you know what we'll do? We haven't done this in a while. Just a big mailbag. So I recorded about an hour worth of mailbag questions, tried to get as many as I could to not go on forever and ever. But we did an hour plus of a mailbag. And that's the game plan. You guys know the drill. At John Middlekop is the Instagram. @johnmittlekoff is the Instagram. Fire in those DMs. Get your question answered here on the show. We're gonna post it on YouTube. Price split it up into two different videos. Probably a couple 30 minute videos. Also, you can, if you're listening on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe. Three and out feed. We did a golf podcast yesterday. So if you missed that and you like, talked about my experience at Live with Colin, watching Tommy Fleetwood, we obviously have a bunch of podcasts out this week. Me and Colin did one on Sunday. So we've had a lot of content in the middle of August, no big deal. We're just, we're just working and. And. Yeah, but before we dive into some football, you know, I got to tell you, my friends, my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast. Do you want to go to one of these games? Football is right around the corner. It's, you know, sometimes it's. It feels like a slow burn to get to the start of training camp. And then once training camp starts, all of a sudden you look back, you're like, God, we're two weeks away. I mean, college football is right around the corner. The NFL is the next week after that in terms of regular season games. So any event you want to go to, any game, concerts, comedy shows. Taylor Swift I just saw was with the Kelsey Brothers announcing her new album. I'm sure she's. I mean, why wouldn't you do another tour if the last one is that big? So any concert you want to go to, I cannot recommend these guys enough Game Time. Just take the guesswork out of buying tickets with Game Time. Download that app, create an account, and use a Code John. That's Johan. For $20 off, your first purchase terms, apply again, create an account and redeem the code john. 20 off. Download the game Time app today. Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. Okay, let's dive in to this little thing that we call the middle cough Mailbag. And we will start with my main man, Luke. Big fan of the show. I'm a Chiefs fan. And Collins, final playoff predictions. Got my panties In a bunch because he flipped the Chargers and the Broncos to win the division based off the Slater injury and kept the Chiefs as a wild card. My question for the mailbag is specifically why the quote unquote one score game stat for the Chiefs is such a one sided argument. Everyone says that there's no way they can win as many one score games they did last year. But what if instead of losing more one score games, they just aren't in as many and are winning games by two scores instead? A lot of those games should have been blow ups, blowouts. And with relatively same defense, a healthy wide receiver group and tongue in cheek a future hall of Famer Josh Simmons at left tackle, I don't see why Casey shouldn't be able to pull away from teams that they let hang around. I also think that if you just look at the last, let's say 20 years with good teams or teams that have had sustained success, the Patriots are obviously the best example. You know, the Ravens would be a franchise. You could look at the Bills these last four or five years. You could look at groups like the Harbaugh Niners or the Shanahan Niners or the packers with Rogers. When you're a good team and you're going to average between 12 and 15 wins a season, right? Let's even 11, right? You're going to have years where the difference between winning 12 and 14 might just be a fumble in a block field goal, right? That's just, that's the way the world works. But you're also the majority of time over the aggregate, you're not playing in games where you're winning 40 to 10. That's not how the NFL work. This is not college football, right? If you go back and look at Ohio State over the last five years or Alabama over the last 10 years, or Georgia in college, good teams blow opponents out a lot, right? They play in two or three close games during the regular season and then in theory the postseason. Now the playoffs is a highly contested matchup, but regular season games for good college teams are blocked. That's not the NFL. You're going to play in a lot of one score games. I bet if you look at the Chiefs over the last five, six years, they have an excellent one score game winning record. Why? Because they average like 13 wins a season. So most of their wins are not going to be 38 to 13. I actually don't think it's more with an outlier season like a couple of years ago, the Minnesota Vikings with Kirk Cousins. I think the Giants when they went nine and eight. It happens to some franchises and that's like their one good season over the course of like three years. That's not the case with the Chiefs. So I'm with you. I think we probably make too big a deal with that like this. We have a lot of data. This is not a small sample size. It's like, well, this guy hit 10 home runs in the month of June. He's going to be the greatest home run hitter of all time. And he's like, never hits another home run. Like, this is a franchise that like year in, year out, since Patrick began as a starting quarterback in whatever year that was 18, like we got a pretty good vibe in a field like, this team's going to be good now. I think they've won this division seven years in a row over the course of 10 years. There's going to be a year when you don't win the division. Right. It happened to the Patriots. The Dolphins won it in, what was that? 08. Now Tom Brady tore his ACL that year. The difference in the Chiefs situation relative to that situation in New England for 20 years where I think they basically won the division every year beside that one, that division kind of sucked. Now the Patriots always made up for it because they handled everyone else. Your division's good, so Denver's going to be good. The Chargers, even if they, it's a pretty big blow. Like they're going to be solid. And the Raiders with Pete Carroll are going to be, I mean the Pete Carroll's last couple of years with Seattle, everyone's like, he just, they just sucked. It's like they were winning nine games, like making the playoffs. So I think the floor is really, really high on that division as a whole. And eventually you're just going to have one of those years where if Instead of winning 13 games, you end up winning 11, like the Chiefs two years ago and you don't win the division, you finish second. I do think that's possible, but like, if I wanted to argue for the Chiefs, you'd go, well, the Chargers lost, lost their left tackle. We're better than them. It's like, okay, Bo Nix, I know everyone loves giving him the circle jerk. And listen, I, I, I'm probably guilty of that too. Like, well, see, you beat us. Let's, let's see. Beat us. Can, can, can you win this division? Let's, let's see. Because I know our guy. Can. Can you Big bucks fan and also a big fan of the show you have discussed Jason Light as one of the better GMs in the league and I also have a conflicted opinion on it. On one hand we indeed have one of the better rosters in the league and we have been a stalwart in winning the division and going to the playoffs the last five years. But on the other hand he just extended Bowles who despite having won the division as a coach every year of his tenure, I think we can all agree, probably holding the team back. He is a defensive coach and his defenses are subpar and we schematically and tactically aren't clever or creative. I will give Bowles credit for bringing a sense of stability and keeping the team even Keel. But doesn't Light deserve some criticism for not seeing Bulls just isn't good enough as a head coach? I was ironically here. I sent Jason a text yesterday because there was an article on the Athletic. Basically the premise was like we don't draft assholes or D backs. And that's a big reason over the last five years they have had so much success in the draft building a roster that is just fantastic. Right? And Tom Brady was the cherry on top and then they turned it around and then they transitioned to Baker. But Jason is easily one of the best drafting GMs in the league and just a good guy. Like we started talking about other mid round draft picks. I mean he's just, he's just an easygoing high level gm. I don't know the particulars of every organization in really most organizations when it comes to these situations. But no head coach and no GM is ever extended unless the owner wants to do it. The, the general manager is not like the CEO of Starbucks in the sense of in the NFL if a head coach is extended, that's because of the owner, not the gm. Now I'm not saying clearly Jason likes him and like you said, Todd's had success but that is an ownership call. So like do I think Jason would fire him based. Like why would you? But it's, it's more complicated than just if you tell me. I'm just using a hypothetical. Obviously he's going to be good. But the first round pick from a mecca Boku from Ohio State. I might have screwed up that name. But everyone thinks he's going to be good. Baker singing his praises. I'm excited to watch him. I was just texting Jason about him. They love him. Let's just say he was a bust and he sucks. Everyone would agree that's on the gm. Jason Light would say that was on me. Right? All the previous busts over the years in that organization since Jason's been there in 2013 are on him. And he'd be the first to tell you, to me, head coaching situations, that's, that's, that's the owner. I also think it's not like he's going to fire him. So I hear what you're saying, but I think it's more complicated than just the GM extended because that's not totally how it works, right. Like Howie and Sirianni, obviously Sirianni wins the suit. We all agree, like Sirianni is not as good as these other guys, right? But like Sirianna gets an extension, that's not like Howie doing the extension. Like, that's a Jeffrey Lurie decision. So I think when it comes to coaches and extensions or firings, not that the GM doesn't have influence, good or bad, but they aren't in control of that one. Those are expensive even for a quote unquote, like Todd Bowles is, you know, cheaper than the Tomlins and the McVeighs and the Andy Reid's still cost you probably 12, $13 million a year. You know, it's, it ain't cheap. Big fan, listening every day landscaping here in Atlanta. So you're probably pretty hot because I'm pretty sure it's muggy there. I got a football question and a golf question. I'm a big Falcons fan and I think we have a lot of talent, but I think Terry and Raheem are objectively underwhelming. Is it possible to overcome them and succeed? How do caddies rank up from starting cadding to catting for the pros? It's a good question. On the caddies, I think a lot of times there's some element of luck catting in quote unquote the minor leagues with a guy who then becomes a really good player. And then once you get to the quote unquote big leagues, you just kind of shuffle. It's almost like, how do you, how does this guy keep getting opportunities as a coordinator? It's like, well, once upon a time someone gave him a shot as a coordinator and then he just kind of cycles in and out. I think it's very, very difficult. Like if you gave Raheem Morse and he became the head coach of the Ravens, I think it'd be hard for them to not, to not miss the playoffs. Right? They already have the infrastructure. Their guys know how to win. They already have some built in schemes. He could kind of be the rah rah guy in front but when he's the guy creating like we've been winning seven games a year, it's time to make the playoffs. Like it's pretty underwhelming and I think it's hard to overcome that now. The only way they could is Raheem does not call the offense and I don't know Zach Robinson personally and it's hard to put it all on him. Cousins just, I mean physically kind of fell apart last year as the season went on. It was just objectively bad. And I don't. That to me is not on the coaching. But if he's really good and Penix is really good, I think you could overcome an average GM and an average head coach. But that's asking like, I mean Penix would have to be like a Pro bowl guy. Like, can he throw 38 touchdowns? I don't know. I hope so. I love Michael Penix. Question for the bag. It seems like a safe bet that Anthony Richardson will exit a game early in the season. If Daniel Jones gets his shot and is half the season Sam Darnold had last year, could you see the Colts winning a playoff game? You know what's funny is I was, I was watching Hard Knocks last night on the couch and if you watch the first two episodes and when they do practice montage, typically Hard Knocks is based on a shitty team, right? And a lot of times they either have like a young rookie quarterback or some veteran bridge quarterback and it's just an awful aesthetic experience sitting just watching it. It's like this offense stinks. Remember Jared Goff did it last year. Caleb, you could just tell. It's like, this is, this is going to be weird watching Josh Allen play. You're like, this is, this is as good as it gets just watching him sling it around Anthony, looking back at Anthony Richardson and I, you know, if you've listened to me for a while, where I stand on drafting high and taking big swings, I never have a problem swinging for the fences. I am pro in the high in the draft. Swing for the fences because there is no such thing as a high floor player. Daniel Jones was viewed as a high floor player and for the most, you know, relative to the 6 overall pick, he's been a disaster. But they drafted Anthony Richardson just like the Niners drafted Trey Lance. Just like in the history of the league, a lot of physical guys have been drafted. Josh Allen was one as well. And they don't work out. For every Josh ALLEN There are 10, 15 absolute whiffs. And instead of hitting that grand slam you strike out. And to me, Anthony Richardson, like Daniel Jones is starting week one. I would be stunned sitting here after watching that situation unfold in the first preseason game of him not knowing protections and where free release or free rushers are coming from, like, it's over now. It doesn't mean Daniel Jones can get hurt, play poorly, doesn't mean he won't play. But I wouldn't compare Daniel Jones to Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold is a much more talented player. Daniel Jones comp is like Alex Smith. Sam Darnold's comp is much more of like a. I mean honestly, he's like a poor man's Josh Allen. He doesn't run like that, but he's got an explosive arm and he, like Daniel Jones is not some explosive thrower of the ball. His best season ever, I think was like 15 touchdowns. So I, I guess they could, but I have a hard time seeing it work out. Like my take a couple days ago, like, I'm out. I just. I'm just out on this thing. And I think if you're betting man right now, I think it's going to be a debacle. And I would say my gambling lock of the year. My lock of the year is the Texans winning that division. Big fan, fellow ball brother. My question for the pod is which of these three guys had a higher peak? Le'Veon Bell, Todd Gurley, David Johnson or Arian Foster? I feel like they all had particular stretches when they were dominant. I mean, I think they were all like all pro players. So I would say was Todd Gurley the starting running back on the team that McVay took to the Super Bowl? Was. David Johnson was a starting running back on a team that went to the AFC Championship. Le'Veon was starting running back. I mean, they all played in a lot of playoff games. I personally think when purely healthy, Gurley was the most talented of the group. Arian Foster was just the ideal zone running scheme guy. I mean it just. He was perfect for the lafleur Shanahan. Any, you know what the Eagles do and any zone running team, he is the ideal running back. Le'Veon was good with his own, but he was kind of a hybrid. He could do both. His style was so unique. To me, Todd was just. Todd was a pretty elite talent. I mean the dude got drafted 10th overall, the torn ACL and Arian Aaron was just some certain running backs are just specific scheme fits. And to me Aryan has to play in the zone. And when he did, Gary Kubiak Kyle Shanahan we're going to run it right down your throat.
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Midas Touch Brothers
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Katie Couric
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Midas Touch Brothers
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Katie Couric
Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Lithgow
Hello, I'm John Lithgow.
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John Middlekauff
We choose to go to the moon.
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John Lithgow
I want to tell you about my new Friends fiction podcast.
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John Middlekauff
That's one small step for Man.
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John Lithgow
It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.
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John Middlekauff
You're a great pilot, Buzz, as far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.
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John Lithgow
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John Middlekauff
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John Lithgow
We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.
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John Middlekauff
What do you say Buzz another beer.
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John Lithgow
And triumph over addiction.
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Maria Hinojosa
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John Lithgow
To you and become a true hero.
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John Middlekauff
Buzz and I will proceed into the.
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John Lithgow
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John Middlekauff
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John Lithgow
Starring me, John Lithgow.
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John Middlekauff
Can you put it through?
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John Lithgow
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John Middlekauff
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Maria Hinojosa
When I became a journalist, I was the first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Hinojosa. I dreamt of having a place where voices that have been historically sidelined would instead be centered. For over 30 years now, Latino USA has been that place. This is Latino USA, the radio journal of news and Cultura. As the longest running Latino news and culture show in the United States, Latino USA delivers the stories that truly matter to all of us. From sharp and deep analysis of the.
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John Middlekauff
Most pressing news, they're creating this narrative that immigrants are criminals. This is about everyone's freedom of speech.
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Maria Hinojosa
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John Middlekauff
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Maria Hinojosa
Going to push back on that colorism.
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John Middlekauff
All of these things, like, exist in.
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Maria Hinojosa
Mexican culture and Latino culture. You'll hear from people like Congresswoman aoc.
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John Middlekauff
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Maria Hinojosa
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John Middlekauff
For the mailbag. This is Carter. KU Athletics. That'd be Kansas announced 300 million dollar donation which will go toward athletics. Only confirmed by a couple different KU reports reporters. With money like that flowing into certain universities, is there a future where random schools like, like us, Texas Tech, Arkansas and ASU become national brands and household names in college football? Or do you think that's going to be impossible? I think one. I mean we've seen it before. Oregon became a household name in the Internet age behind Phil Knight and Nike. And they are going to even take a bigger step and they, I guess they have no chance to go anywhere as long as Nike continues to back them. Right. Texas Tech is trying to essentially do that same thing which Oklahoma State did for a long time with T Boom Pickens of like, we're just going to buy a team. Obviously you couldn't above board do it, but it was happening below board. To me it's more complicated. It's easier to wrangle $25,000 in cash together. To get a recruit than it is to get, hey, we want these five guys. It's going to cost us $2 million on average, $400,000 a guy in real money that we pay them in direct deposits on a monthly basis. Like, that's much more complicated than handing a guy a briefcase or a bag of cash. And so to elevate, like, it's. You can have a really, really successful mom and pop restaurant, right, that does really well, even smaller margins in the restaurant business. You can be very financially successful if you're one of the 10% of restaurateurs that in a city develops the number one restaurant. It's always packed and you make money, which is very difficult to do. It is much more difficult from a capital standpoint to run a national business, a retail store that's in like 10 different states, right? You just, you just got more people working for. It's just more complicated. And it takes more money and it takes more support. Like, you got to get bank loans, just a lot moving on. You got to get investors. Whereas a restaurateur, Maybe you got 50 grand to put on the down payment and then just kind of go from there and figure it out. And again, I'm not trying to downplay, but there's a difference trying to compete with Walmart or Target than there is to, like, just create a restaurant in downtown. So like, that's kind of the college athletics, the bounce. And I said this to Josh Pate the other day when Alabama's AD put out a tweet asking for help. You just. That's a problem. You know who's not doing that? Texas Tech. Because they got a billionaire supporting them. Arkansas. So, yes, I think we will 1 million percent see a couple new programs over the course of the next decade. Their addition to the national landscape of just being. Maybe not they're going to become Ohio State overnight, but like, they're just in the mix for the next 10 years, in the top 15, 20 every single year. And they're going to make the playoffs a couple times. So, yes, I would, I would not put ASU with Arkansas and Texas Tech. I mean, Arkansas and Texas Tech have big, big money. ASU is, is not remotely close on that level. I mean, last year Kenny Dillingham was begging people for donations. I have no idea if you'll see this, but if you do. Message. This is for the pod. This is not for the pod, but to get your thoughts. I'll just read this out. I won't say your name. I love your show. And Would love to start my own podcast as a way to one day make a living. I enjoy my 9 to 5, but it's not something I'm passionate about. What I love doing is talking sports, especially football, with my buddies. I would love to start a podcast that has the vibe guys, just talking ball with a mix of balanced takes, hot takes, fan bias, and outside perspectives. The problem is I have no actual football experience. I didn't even play high school football. But man, I love watching it, listening to it, and talking about it. I would love to make my work that you're in the business. What do you like and what do you not like about this? I would say this. There has never been an easier time in your situation to figure out a way to get involved in the world of just talking about sports. This stuff, when I got into it, hell, a decade ago, didn't really exist. You have YouTube, you have Instagram, you have TikTok. Like, you don't need to start of. Just like, I have a podcast that a hundred thousand people listen to. Just create a TikTok account or an Instagram account or a YouTube page and just kind of start throwing your ideas out there. Record some of your podcasts, clip it up, make it a side project, and just see if you can figure out a way to kind of hone in on what works and what doesn't work. Who cares if anyone's listening? You already have a job. So just make it a side hustle at first. Most side hustles don't make any money. And then if you ever gain some traction, you can spend a little more effort and energy doing it. But, like, you can order equipment off Amazon. You can just get a Logitech camera and put it above your, your laptop and just start recording stuff and post it to the social channels and just mess around and then just figure out, like, how much you actually like it. Because now you can't be down on yourself about how many people listen or interact. Like, it takes time. You know, it's like Coward just didn't start on Fox Sports 1 with a show, a podcast company doing all this stuff. You start doing it when no one was paying attention in the 80s, right? Dan Patrick started when no one was paying attention well before he ever got ESPN or whoever, right? And most people aren't Pat McAfee or whatever that have a built in. Like, I played in the NFL. So you just, you got to start from scratch and just start swinging your pick. But you get to a point, like, if you really want to try this it's not. You already have a way to make money. Start small and just see where it goes. I'm 24 year old Falcons fan and ever since super bowl loss has felt like a nightmare. Trusting Mariota Desmond Ritter wasn't exactly comforting but last year Kirk Cousins actually gave me some of the best football memories in years like the Bucks on Thursday Night Football and the Eagles two minute drive. I like Raheem, love our recent draft and I'm really intrigued by Zach Robinson. I agree the staff is only in year two so I know it takes time to fully establish the system. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but is it crazy to believe that Penix could have a Mahomes type arc, sit behind a solid vet, get a few reps and then blow up in year two? We got a good old line, we have weapons and the defense is younger and improving. What are the odds pulls us into the playoffs. If you're a playoff team that means I would imagine, I mean I think the bucks are winning 10 games so you probably have to win 11 or 12 to win the division. I guess you could make a wild card at 10. That means penix has a good year and if Penix has a good year like you're going to be in a good spot moving forward. Now I think this is what we talked about with Anthony Richardson being compared to Josh Allen. Like we need the next Josh Allen. Like don't think like that because that's never. It happened in basketball forever. This guy's the next Draymond Green. Now there's one Draymond Green. There's never going to be another guy that's 6 foot 5 that can play defense like that passenger. It doesn't really happen. He's an outlier player. Josh Allen, all these physical gifts wasn't very good in college. Couldn't even get a Division 1 scholarship. People thought the fucking Bills were nuts for drafting them. It's like that's an outlier usually that guy sucks, right? And that the thing with panics is like multi year starter took Washington to the Natty dominated like he's a legitimate like plug and play player now I how good? I hope he's good. I enjoy watching him play. But comparing him to Mahomes, I mean didn't Mahomes as his first year starting throw 50 touchdowns? Didn't he win the MVP? I think that's his style is a lot different than Pennix to. I mean Penix is a pocket quarterback. Penix is more, he's much closer to like a Jared Goff, like the way he wants to play. Mahomes first year in the NFL as a full time starter. He threw 50 touchdowns, so I would say Pennix throws 30. You're in pretty good shape. I think we got to be very careful of like this happens a lot during the draft. Like this. You know, this guy reminds me of Miles Garrett. You know who this tight end, George Kittle. Like no guy. None of these guys, like two of these first rounders are going to be Pro Bowlers. Actually, most of the good players are going to come from the other rounds. That's how it usually works. Unless it's an outlier draft. When a bunch of Pro Bowlers come from the first round, which doesn't happen as often as you think. I feel like many people. This is from, I think Xander. Xander Shafley. Not Xander Shafley, but I feel like many people are riding off the Lions because they're losing both coordinators. But I would argue that the addition of all the defensive players that were injured last year being back is a bigger gain than a loss of the coordinators. Hutchinson looked like the best rusher in the league to start last season and him and 10 other guys are coming back from injury. They won 15 games last year with an injured team. Why can't they win 12 or 13 with all these players back? I totally agree. I'm just trying to beat off the, just off the main path a little bit. So I'm taking the packers, right? You guys have won the division, what the last two years. Obviously you got a lot of talent. The offense is loaded. I think defensively, if you got the Jimmies and the Joes, you got one of the best edge rushers. You got some young players. Brian France, a really good player. You've drafted a bunch of DBs the last couple years. Scheme matters. But like the infrastructure you hired from within, like, I bet they're pretty solid on defense if they're healthy. Even with Aaron Glenn leaving. To me, offense, we all know this. Like when you lose a coordinator, especially in a leak coordinator, there can be a massive drop off even if the players are the same. I think that's where you get like Ben Johnson to Johnny Morton. Like, why isn't Johnny Morton been a dominant offensive coordinator throughout his career? Everyone keeps telling me how great of a guy he is. I'm not just. Or I mean, coach, he is. I'm sure he's a great guy. Like, I don't know, like Ben Johnson is, I mean, one of the best offensive coordinators we've seen recently. It's like I got Gruden, I got Dan Campbell, I got Sean Payton. Like I love Johnny Morton. It's like, well why didn't you guys make him your offensive coordinator more often? How many times does Johnny Morton. So I guess what I'm saying is he's the guy that makes me nervous. So he's offensive coordinator right now. He was the past game coordinator the last couple of years of the Broncos. He was there obviously in 22. Dan Campbell's talked about this, bringing him back as a senior offensive consultant. He was the jets offensive coordinator in 2017. He was a wide receiver coach for a long time with, with the Niners and then the I just that to me I'd be more nervous about than the defense. They just maintain the same thing. Like does he run the exact same verbiage and offense that Ben Johnson did? He's clearly not the same. I mean Ben Johnson, I mean pretty. You just watch him talk like cerebral smart guy. Johnny. Johnny Martin's got a little more like football guy vibe. I saw you came out to Bowling Brook for the live golf tournament. How did you like Bowling Brook? Also, based off the off season moves, do you think nine wins for the Bears is realistic? Have a real expectations for them but don't want to expect too much, you know, beside just the first hole in the 18th hole. We didn't, I didn't walk the course, so it looked like a pretty cool venue. Definitely it was sweet being in the little literally in the suite drinking beers, having some food. But I don't have a great feel for the course beside watching them hit down hole one and approach 18. I would say on the Bears, if you tell me they go above 500, I would say Caleb's. You feel pretty good about Caleb moving forward and you just got some positive momentum. To me, the number one key for this team is like, do you feel good at the end of the year? And that would be impossible if you win three, four or five games. But could you win eight, nine games and be like we had the top two or three or four defense in the league and I mean Dennis Allen's a really good defensive coach and the offense was pretty hit or miss. I think you would much rather choose. You know, our defense was pretty hit or miss but our offense was awesome. With Ben Johnson and Caleb, you could argue that's the only thing that matters is like you feel good, your head coach likes the quarterback and the quarterback looks good. That to me is more important than, you know, you're not Winning the Super bowl. You, you know, are you going to win a playoff game? Probably not either. But like, does your quarterback look good? A lot of Falcons fans for the bag. As a Falcons fan, I want to get your opinion on Raheem. He doesn't call the plays on defense, doesn't call the plays on offense. So what is his role other than being the vocal leader? Time management is clearly not one of his strong suits, which is evident from the Falcons commanders game last year along with clock management early in the season. In fairness to Raheem, he is no different than a lot of coaches. The Harbaugh brothers do not call the offense. Do not call the defense. Pete Carroll does not call the offense. Does not call the defense. Dan Campbell not call the offense. There are a ton of quote unquote CEO head coaches in the NFL. A ton. Right. For every McVeigh and Kyle and even I guess, Andy and Sean Payton, most guys are not doing that. Vrabel doesn't call the offense, doesn't call the defense. Todd Bowles ain't calling the defense anymore. Or does he? That's might be a bad example, but, but to me it's more about like the structure of what you're looking for. And that's what the Harbaugh brothers have shined at. That's what Dan Campbell is like broke the Lions through with. Can he do that? Because just being the CEO of a company, like think about the CEO of most, most like successful companies, they're not like, Starbucks hired the dude from Chipotle. Well, guess what? He ain't making the burritos at Chipotle when Starbucks hires him. Like he ain't pouring the coffee. Right. He's not running an individual store. You are doing macro visionary things for the company. It's no different as a CEO head coach. So like do you know what you're doing? Because there have been a lot of CEOs that like, God, I really like this guy. He just wasn't very good at his job. And you just have to wonder like, is this guy actually a number two? And there are just a lot of those guys like Robert Sala, probably just number two. Vic Fangio, number two. And I've said this forever, if you're going to be a number two, there are a lot of industries where being the number two, there's a big pay decrease and you're not even making that much money in the NFL being the number two, which means being the defensive coordinator, if you're Raheem pays like four or five million dollars and you bear no responsibility. When people get in trouble, when people get injured, there's so many pressures that are not on you. And I've said this forever, even about Ben Johnson, is like, until you get into the firing lines and all of a sudden a defensive player gets a dui, an offensive player that was your star snaps his leg, a head coach's wife gets sick, you know, all this stuff going on, all that pressure is on you. That's where it's like, you know, now we're going to learn about Dan Campbell. You know what? I know Dan Campbell can handle the pressure. I've seen it. Now, schematically, are they good enough? That, to me, is the question. But in terms of Dan Campbell handling guys getting injured, guys getting arrested, guys getting flagged, guys, whatever, unfazed, I have full faith, like, he can handle being a CEO. We know the Harbaughs, the Pete Carrolls, like, those guys. We saw Robert Sala try to be a CEO wasn't because you know what most CEOs need, they need a lot of experience. Because getting thrust in the main chair. It's where Sean McVay obviously was difficult. But, like, he got to just kind of focus on calling the offensive plays. He had Wade Phillips calling the defense. And it's like he could kind of be tunnel vision earlier in his career, which now he's able to balance both. But Raheem, like, the pressure on them because they spent a bunch of money on Kirk Cousins, the leash is pretty short. It's why I think if they miss the playoffs, I think everyone's going to get fired. The owner's old, they bungled the quarterback situation that they didn't have to do. So I, you know, based. Based on paying. I mean, their backup makes $28 million. What was your takeaway from Pete Carroll's first game? I know they started the first half slow, but came back in the second half and blocked the field goal from winning. I'd be lying if I said I watched much of that game. I remember sitting on my couch watching the first. First couple drives and like, it was a preseason game. I didn't care. I listen. Coward. One of his first takes when he got back from vacation was Dan Campbell and the Lions were in trouble because they lost their two coordinators. And he could tell on the hall of Fame game. Like, I disagree with making judgments based on the preseason, most of these games. And listen, my take on Shador Sanders is not that based on that performance in the first preseason game, that he's a future star. My take was simply like the head coach better be careful because the momentum is already against what he wants to do and on Shador's side. But making plays against second and third string players is what you want to do as a player. But that does not guarantee, let alone even translate always to the regular season because it's a completely different sport. There's no, we're not scheming up against anybody. So preseason is really just effort, energy and what does, what do your backups look like right from a talent standpoint. So the judging Pete Carroll off preseason game to me is irrelevant. Like Pete Carroll is 25 plus years of showing you what he brings to the table. I'd be very excited to go from I think, you know, Pete Carroll's resume is a lot longer than Vrabel. But I'll never forget and I was when I left the NFL and I went into radio, I was around the Harbaugh and they fired Jim Harbaugh and they went to Jim Tomsula. I'm very, very confident it is the worst drop off in the history of the NFL. Jim Harbaugh to Jim Tomsua. I don't think there'll ever be a drop off and a gap that big between two players. It'd be like going from, you know, Tom Brady to Brian Hoyer. I mean, it's just the gap couldn't be any bigger, right? And I think on the opposite end, going from Gerard Mayo to Vrabel and Antonio Pierce to Pete Carroll, that's on the, that's the opposite end of like ascending up. So how good they're going to be? Listen, I don't know if they're talented enough to like win nine games, but they are going to be way better. And Pete Carroll, we know he knows what he's doing. Now I do think there are some question marks like Chip Kelly's got a lot of friends in the media. You know, for a grumpy old guy, he's sneaky, pretty good with the media and everyone loves him. It's like, we sure that's going to work? Like I've seen Pete Carroll in the NFL or excuse me, I've seen Chip Kelly in the NFL and it did not work. Now has he adapted? His scheme changed? It's going to be a lot different. I would say the Raiders, and this is no one's fault, but like they don't have great wide receivers now. They got Brock Bowers, who's a stud. I, you know, Jacoby Myers, a good player, but you know, I wouldn't say this is exactly Jordan, Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison rolling out there. So I think you're going to have limitations, especially what Pete came from in Ohio State or I mean, excuse me, I get Pete and Chip mixed up. But what Chip was dealing with at Ohio State, which he had a first round wide receiver who went to the Bucks, he has this other wide receiver would have been a top five pick this year. He had two running backs who both went in the top 35. His left tackle has a blunt, had a blown out knee and was drafted in the first round. I mean the talent on Ohio State was stupid. So it's going to be a lot different. I'm just, I just not really into chips offense in the pros when you can't stack the deck. So I think that's the biggest question mark with the Raiders. I think defensively, I think energy, effort, I think focus. Like they're going to be a serious NFL operation. Are you going to do another top 10 coaches in the league video like you did last year? I'm not sure what the numbers were, but it seemed like it was a big hit. I'm curious to see if guys like Sean Payton make it on the list a year after being omitted last year. And does Kevin o' Connell get a spot? That's a good idea. Actually, let me take a little note. I think we did something last year for social and it blew up. I would say that both those guys would be on the list. Yes. I mean, listen, Sean Payton is one of the best coaches in the league. There's no disputing that. It was just hard after the Russell Wilson situation. They had a game where they gave up 70 points. So last. I did not see that coming last year. I, I did not. Blew me away. And listen, I, I'm critical of Kevin OConnell because I think it's fair to be like, why doesn't Lamar play better in the playoffs, right? Like, why doesn't Kevin OConnell coach better in the playoffs? Like that's a fair. Happens in basketball all the time with like what's up with James Harden in the playoffs? What's up with it? Like, why doesn't Joel Embiid suck in the playoffs? Like you can ask these questions and no one likes to ask these questions. That's all I'm doing. Like, I've never acted. Like I wouldn't want Kevin o' Connell as my coach, but he's had a couple playoff games with teams that won 12 and like 14 games. We lost them both as favorites that happened. That's a fact. I'm not it's not an opinion.
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Why is nobody talking about the obvious issue with the NFL having equity in espn? It's a complete conflict of interest. How can I trust the journalistic integrity of ESPN and its content? For context, I'm a cpa, an auditor in public accounting, and I must remain independent at all times from my clients. My independence must be both. In fact, I cannot own stock equity, and in appearance, I can't take favors, tickets, gifts. The NFL ESPN deal doesn't have either. That's because they're not in the journalist business. Journalism, I would say, is dying a hard death. And I think a big reason why is we can't monetize it like we once could. We used to be able to monetize a lot of things that came with espn. ESPN the Magazine, ESPN the website. Those don't matter as much anymore. You know what does? The games, which equate to all of the revenue for ESPN and bring the value. It's why they spent all this money on the NBA and it's why they spent all this money on the NFL. You know why? Because they want those properties on their. And same with college football and college basketball, they want the games. That's the business they're in. They don't care about someone writing an article about Roger Goodell doesn't make them any money. And they're not in the charity business. They're in the profit business. So there's a reason why about a decade ago, when the written word started to slow down and a lot of big Jays got really mad, it's like, guys, the reason newspapers dominated for so long is they were an advertising distribution network. Well, as humans stopped buying the newspapers, newspapers didn't generate the same amount of money and didn't have the same power. So they started laying you off. They didn't lay you off because they hate the written word. It just didn't profit anymore. Espn, their top shows non games are like get up and first take that have nothing to do with journalism. I've seen a lot of people and I think the media cares about this way more. I understand where you're coming from because you're in this world of conflicts of interest. You know what the only interest for ESPN is? How do we get more in bed with, with the NFL? How do we get more games? How do we get a Super Bowl? How do we get more NFL? That's the business they're in. They're not worried about, hey, Seth Wickersham, who is good, what he can and can't write, that's completely irrelevant. It just is. So the days of like, and I've seen a lot of people, what's going to happen with the journalistic integrity? Do you, do you just see what they're talking about on first take? Like, where's the journalistic integrity? Like, what are we even talking about? This is all entertainment. And they are in the business of getting involved in getting the games. So you do whatever it takes to get the games. I also think the NFL for the most part, they don't get mad at people talking about individual teams and honestly even the individual owners. The only time ESPN had trouble, which rightfully so, is they had a lot of journalists rooting for football to go under. I mean, that was a fact. I mean, football is the biggest sport, it's the most profitable sport even at the time. And there were a lot of people on their network rooting for it to basically go bankrupt, essentially. And Bill Simmons got in trouble going after Goodell. So when you go after the individual commissioner or the health of the league. But like you can rip on the coaches and players as much as you want. I mean first take does it every day. No one cares. So I actually don't think anything's really going to change from what ESPN has been. But if journalism was more important to the consumer, newspapers would still be thriving. But they're not, you know so I, I, I, I think that's overblown. I I guess would my overall take be about ESPN's responsibility to journalism? And let's be real most I, I listen I, I have I respect like being a journalist and doing it the right way is really difficult. But I would say that most journalists have become activists. So you could argue that a lot of journalism what used to be 20, 30 years ago has died. Got me entertained by golf. I'm from Houston, but I grew up a Packer fan. Thoughts on Texans vs. Packers in the Super Bowl I think the Texans defense is going to be elite. I think their defense is going to be so good now the only question is going to be the offensive coordinator. Can CJ bounce back? If their, if their offense is solid, they're going to be pretty good. Obviously the packers are going, you know, loves hurt I think Is Jaden Reed hurt? They got some injuries right now it's August 13th. I'm pretty high on the Packers. I'm going to bet them to I'm going to do like I was looking at this the other day. I'm going to do a couple different parlays and my go tos are going to consistently be the packers to win that division at plus 250 and the Texans are my lockdown. So The Texans at +110 are my anchor. And then I'm going to do like multiple different parlays with the Packers. I might even throw the Vikings in there too. The Niners to win the division, the Broncos and the Chiefs to win the division. I'm going to mess with a couple of those. But I'm going to anchor on the Houston Texans at +110. If you said right now you have to throw an uncomfortable amount of money on one team in the NFL to win the division and they can't have like minus odds like the Bills or the Ravens. Right. Can't do that. Or the the Eagles. I can't bet on those teams. You got to bet a team that has plus odds. Right. It wouldn't even be a hesitation to be the Houston Texans. I think they win that division by several games. Were you around for Super Bowl 50? And I know what the right. And I want to know what the right way is to experience this upcoming Super Bowl 60 in the Bay Area. I'm from Northern California and would love to go to the home. Would love to go home to experience the event. If the Niners aren't in the show, hopefully the actual SF city gets involved and not just Santa Clara. I did. I did my radio show from Radio Row. The. All the events will be in San Francisco. The only thing in Santa Clara was the games. And I think a team stayed down there and they practiced like San Jose. But the super bowl experience, which was really well done in the convention center, like right in downtown San Francisco on like 3rd street, like 3rd. And I forget the other cross street. I haven't been downtown in years, but it's like three or four streets south of Market. Yeah, it's cool. I mean, it's a cool experience. I would recommend it if you want to go to the super bowl experience. It's just fun. It's just easy event to just kind of walk around and kind of take it all in. I actually went to that game as well. The Super Bowl. The game is. The game is much more like a corporate experience. I would say the whole week it's just like a corporate event. It is like a corporate football convention for the fans and the partners. It's not if you. If you go, like Chiefs, Bills, right in an AFC championship game or regular season game, or Eagles, Washington, wherever that game is being played. It's about the football and the purity of trying to win and the fans all there. Super bowl is not really like that. Super Bowl's. I feel like it's the NFL's way to say thank you to all their partners. So the reason I went to the game was because I was there with my cousin who worked in the beer business. So that's where we got our tickets from, like Miller. Course, you know, it's most of the tickets and most of the people were not like, you know, as Broncos, Panthers. But it didn't feel like some huge contingent of, you know, it wasn't like 50, 50 Broncos. That's not what it's like. So it's just the game's unique. But that week, especially Thursday, Friday, Saturday are pretty cool. And I was there in Vegas, too. I mean, shit, I've been to. I've only been to the game once, but I've been to Miami, I've been to Vegas, I've been to New Orleans. Super Bowl's cool. It's fun. And congrats on all your success moving to Cali. Love hearing your investments you're into. Do we think. Someone asked me the other day because I had made a comment about like, hey, I'm invested in this one stock that is not very pretty, but if it hits, I'm going to be really rich. It was Open Door, which I'm still in. I've actually added more. I had a day where I was down 75% and within a week that stock was up 100%. It's the craziest shift and I have a sizable chunk of money relative to my net worth in the stock. I didn't sell a penny, but riding that, I was actually insecure to brag about it because at the time, I think I was -78 when I opened up stock, probably a month ago or two months whenever I brought it up. And I had a couple people like, what was the. What's that stock you're in that you think could hit big? I was not confident enough to even mention it to anyone else because it could have gone to zero. But it's like I'm. I'm like Chris Ballard hoping Anthony, hoping Anthony Richardson is the next Josh Allen with Open Door. And then all of a sudden, I don't know if it was in the meme craze, the short squeeze. It's one of the craziest, seeing the amount of money I was down to, the amount of money I was up. But I was like, hey, I was in this for the long haul to try to get a 20x er, not just a 1x er. But then it came down and I'm basically up like 10% now. But it was a fun little ride. I would have sold if I would have been early to like. I've been doing this long enough to kind of be numb to that. And I thought about him like, should I just take like some little cash spending money? Do we think Trayvon Henderson has a shot to be the next Gibbs? Did you see his first touchdown ever? Went for a touchdown. Listen, he's a home run hitter. You get that dude in open grass, he can fly. I think here's the thing with Gibbs. Gibbs is good at everything. He can run inside, he can run off tackle, and he is elite at catching the ball. So the way to be Gibbs is you basically have to be able to do it all. And, you know, I would imagine Vrabel and those guys now with a month into training camp, have a better idea how he is out of the backfield catching the football. But I'd also Say that looking at his, he had 27 catches last year. He had 27 catches as a rookie. So he can catch the ball. We know that Josh McDaniels loves throwing the ball to. You know, they had how many running backs they have over the years with Brady that they passed to a lot out of the backfield. I mean, hell, probably six, seven years ago, maybe even less. I played golf in the Bay Area with Shane Vereen. He was working at the Pac12 network and I probably for nine of the 18 holes, I was just peppering him with McDaniels, Belichick, Brady Gronk questions. I mean he was really, really good and then he got a big contract to go to the Giants and he got injured. But he, he's a good example. He was really good out of the backfield. He was excellent in the open field as a runner. So if you can catch the ball with Josh McDaniels in that offense, we know that Vrabel loves running backs. I don't see why he couldn't be an excellent player like Gibbs. He's really fast. Yeah, I mean I'd be pretty bullish on the guy. He's a home run hitter, so I'd say that's what him and Gibbs share in common. These past few weeks I've seen quite a bit of media segments dedicated yet again to Brock Purdy. Of course, it's always polarizing. If he goes for something in the realm of 4,000 yards, 28 touchdowns, 12 win seasons, do you think pundits in big audience legacy media shows will start to finally credit him as an undisputed top 12 quarterback? I even saw in Sandoz quarterback tears that Dak Prescott was above him. Jordan Love was as well. Which Brock Purdy's had a better start to his career than Jordan Love. That's not really debatable. Now if you wanted to argue that Jordan Love has more physical traits and you're betting on the physical traits this year, it's like I, I could hear that argument, but based on the evidence, Brock Purdy's been a better player in Jordan Love. And it's not even arguable when it comes to Dak Prescott. I mean one of the all time meltdown guys in the playoffs. But one of the quotes in there was why do we keep talking about the draft? In this draft status, it's over years ago. All this guy does is make plays on the field. And I just think that it's. And they also compared him to Baker. Baker's more physically gifted from an Arm strength standpoint. But this coach said that he thought that Purdy is just better anticipatory thrower and sees a little bit better. Purdy's is really good, yet everyone shits on him. Because if Purdy was the third overall pick and had been Trey Lance, and Trey Lance is just dealing with Brock Purdy, everyone would be saying the guy's the top six, seven quarterback in the league. Five, six quarterback, but instead, he's the last pick in the draft. Everyone says, too short, his arm sucks. Kyle Shanahan. Same thing with Jalen Hurts. And I saw a bunch of people like, God, Jalen Hurts is behind CJ Stroud and Justin Herbert. I do not understand why people get so caught up on this. At the end of the day, football is a team game. And if you're an Eagles fan, would you rather have Joe Burrow in the, like in the Bengals season? Well, hey, everyone anoints my quarterbacks one of the best players in the league. My team goes nine wins, my quarterback throws 45 touchdowns. Or would you rather be the Eagles where everyone's like, yeah, he's. Maybe He's a top 10 quarterback, but yeah, the best team in the league and he won the Super Bowl. Like, this is. This isn't fucking tennis or golf. It's. It's a team game. So same thing with Brock Purdy. Last time I checked, Joe Montana had Ronnie Lott playing defense, had Charles Haley rushing the passer, threw it to Jerry Rice, handed to Roger Craig, had, you know, some pretty good players, Dwight Clark, you know, barreling down the seam like it's hard to be a good player at quarterback. Like, ask Patrick Mahomes what it was like to be a rookie throwing do Travis Kelsey and Tyree Kill probably didn't suck. If you could have beers with one person currently employed by an NFL team, who would it be? Can't be a player, coach, or executive, someone you've met before or never met before. Oh, it can be a coach or an executive. Just someone you think would be a lot of fun and an interesting hang. Well, I think you'd have to go. You'd have to take. Make two decisions. If you're going to go player, you'd have to go quarterback. And I'm pretty confident if I spend time with someone, especially in that setting. I always thought this when I was single, I could punch above my weight. The hardest thing for me to do with a beautiful girl was to get the date. If I got the date, like we were always gonna, I was gonna be okay, right? A home. I had on personality, but I was never gonna look like Tom Brady walking in the room. But if you get got me the one on one and like went out to dinner like it's, it's gonna be a successful if I want it to be. I was that confident in my ability. I wasn't always confident. Like sometimes it was hard to get that like her to be like whether in a bar situation, whether it be especially you know, Internet dating, like I'm not, I'm not Brad Pitt here. I would say the same thing in that situation. So if you gave me a one on one over beer, it's like we're gonna get, build a relationship and have friendship, right. So it would be either if you're going to pick a coach you would want. Luckily I already, I already know some guys, but it would be a guy I didn't know and a guy's going to have a lot of success, right? I don't know Shanahan, but Shannon's not a big like hang out with the media guy, right. So even if I got in that situation, I think it would be a tough nut to crack. I think the two guys would be if it was a coach, Kevin o' Connell who, listen, I've been hard on him, but Andy Reid didn't win a Super bowl to like 20 plus years in the league. So it's like, who's to say Kevin O' Connell couldn't have like a 20 year run of being a great coach and Sean McVay already is one. But like he's 40 years old, he's not going away. And even if he pivoted to like, I don't know, be the analyst for Monday Night Football, he'd just be a good guy to have. So probably one of those two guys. From a coaching standpoint, if you went quarterback, you would say, well why would I overthink this? I could just pick Mahomes because he's not going away, his team's not going away. He's one of the most famous athletes in the world I guess in America, but like in the sport that we talk about here. So you could go him, you could go like I go Jaden Daniels and go, well, what if he just becomes, I mean the next superstar, Little risky. Could also just like could have a step back year then maybe solid, but he's never like a superstar. I think I'd probably, it would either be probably Mahomes or one of those two coaches would probably be my final answer. I guess I'd go Josh Allen. You would want a player who was gonna and it have to be a quarterback was going to be around for a long time and a good personality. Good interview guy you want to be friends with.
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Midas Touch Brothers
So in the last month, the Midas Touch Network beat Rogan, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro all.
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Katie Couric
Combined Conservative podcasts can have a major political impact, but the Meisellis brothers, three siblings with a serious media strategy, are building an alternative to that. On the latest episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, I sat down with the brothers behind the Midas Touch Network to talk about how they built a progressive media powerhouse from the ground up, why audience interaction is the key to political influence, and what it takes to fight disinformation at scale 1 download at a time.
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Midas Touch Brothers
We should be focusing on the issues that actually occupy a lot of the mental space in Americans minds, but are filled with conspiracies and we should fill it with the truth and solutions.
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Katie Couric
Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Lithgow
Hello, I'm John Lithgow.
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John Middlekauff
We choose to go to the moon.
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John Lithgow
I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.
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John Middlekauff
That's one small step for man.
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John Lithgow
It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.
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John Middlekauff
You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.
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John Lithgow
That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.
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John Middlekauff
To depression, alcohol abuse and suicide.
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John Lithgow
We'll see Buzz, try to overcome demons.
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John Middlekauff
What do you say, Buzz? Another beer.
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John Lithgow
And triumph over addiction.
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Maria Hinojosa
Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.
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John Lithgow
Good luck to you and become a true hero.
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John Middlekauff
Buzz and I will proceed into the.
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John Lithgow
Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself. Buzz. We intercepted a Soviet radio transmission starring me, John Lithgow.
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John Middlekauff
Can you put it through Translate on.
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John Lithgow
The iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts?
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John Middlekauff
Colombia.
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Maria Hinojosa
When I became a journalist, I was the first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Hinojosa. I dreamt of having a place where voices that have been historically sidelined would instead be centered. For over 30 years now, Latino USA has been that place. This is Latino USA, the radio journal of news and cultura. As the longest running Latino news and culture show in the United States, Latino USA delivers the stories that truly matter to all of us. From sharp and deep analysis of the.
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John Middlekauff
Most pressing news, they're creating this narrative that immigrants are criminals. This is about everyone's freedom of speech.
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Maria Hinojosa
Nobody expected two popes from the American continent to stories about our cultures and our identities.
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John Middlekauff
When you do get a trans character like Emilia Perez, the trans community, he's.
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Maria Hinojosa
Going to push back on that colorism.
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John Middlekauff
All of these things, like, exist in.
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Maria Hinojosa
Mexican culture and Latino culture. You'll hear from people like Congresswoman aoc.
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John Middlekauff
I don't want to give them my fear. I'm not going to give them my fear.
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Maria Hinojosa
Listen to Latino USA as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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John Middlekauff
In your opinion, what are the odds a team successfully trades for Tanner McKee of the Eagles this season? I'm an Eagles fan, so I'm biased, but every time the kid touches the field, he looks like a starter. I just would not trade him if I was Philadelphia because. And how he's talked about this. No team in NFL history has benefited more from the. I can't spell his name. McKee. From the backup quarterback. Right. I mean, Jalen's not a backup quarterback, obviously, but he was drafted to be a backup quarterback. And then they went to two Super Bowls with them. One. One. They also won another super bowl with the backup quarterback. So Tanner McKee, what year was he drafted? 23. So 23, 24. You got him under contract for two more years. I don't. I wouldn't even give him up for a second round pick. What if Jalen just, like, broke his leg? I mean, what if something happened like you could feel like you could keep winning with Tanner McKee. So to me you wouldn't entertain trading him till next year when it's like, well, he's not, we're not going to extend them. So you trade him, I think you keep him, I think 100% he's staying on my team. And then you try to flip maybe next year. But I'm not giving up Tanner McKee and I'd be stunned of how he did. Now if someone offered you a first round pick right now, it's like this doesn't get much better than that. But I don't think that's on the table and a lot of teams don't necessarily need quarterbacks. But I, I, I don't know if I could do it, you know. And I think the parallel probably to Tanner McKee would be Matt Schaub when he was in Atlanta and Jimmy Garoppolo when he was in San Francisco. So his value to the Eagles right now because listen, they had Carson Wentz fall off a cliff and they had, you know, for Jalen to come in and they had Carson Wentz tear his acl. So they've been, they've seen it multiple ways. You just never know. Now Jalen I don't think is going to fall off a cliff playing wise. But shit, the way, I mean he's a runner, he'd get injured, he's missed games before. So I would not, I would not trade him right now unless I got the first round pick. Which you're not getting right now. But like what about next offseason? What if the Raiders give you a second or something? You know, might be a bad example but some team, whoever that is. Question for you. My wife and I are going to Scottsdale in November. Any suggestions on places to eat or things to do? We will be near TPC Scottsdale. I know you are answered this a couple times. I would say the Princess has pretty cool open bar. They have a really good restaurant called La Hacienda. In the print it's the hotel on the backside of TBC Scottsdale. It's hard to beat the, the, the really good steakhouses, Dominic's which is in Kierland and Mastro's which is kind of up the street from TBC Scottsdale, which are just elite steakhouses if you want like a hole in the wall. Guy Fieri Diners Drive Ins and Dives. Tom's Thumb is this barbecue joint in a gas station. It's incredible. I get Thanksgiving catered from there. It's Elite, so I'd say Dominic's Mastros, La Hacienda Slash, Princess Bar and Tom's Thumb. Okay, last question first. As an average golfer, I'm curious what type of games, if any games you play in the course. Scramble is fun if you're not worried about your own score. 2 verse 2 We do this game where you kind of, if you're playing four guys, you rotate every three holes with a different partner. You also play junk like birdies, outside putts of the flag, stick up and downs from the sand, close to the pin, stuff like that, which is a pretty easy game. I mean when I play my brother, we just play a straight up like match play. If I'm doing a one on one, I haven't done a scramble in a long time. Just by following your podcast for a while, it seems like most of your connections nowadays are within the Niners, Eagles, Chiefs. If given opportunity, which organization would you want to be involved in the front office decision making for the next five to 10 years? Chief seems to be the obvious answer. But when thinking about Andy's age, Eagles youth, Kyle's youth, so on, it gets like a tougher decision. Yeah, I mean I'd look at it from the standpoint of those three organizations are just, in a way, they're just all well run. You know, I think the Eagles and the 49ers, financially, I think they put out like the top 20 teams or whatever, their valuations, which if the lakers went for $10 billion, the Cowboys, the Giants, the 49ers, I mean these are 15, $20 billion franchises, the Eagles would sell for more than the Lakers. And that's not like I'm not acting like the Lakers aren't some big time brand, but the power of the NFL, their revenue streams and I think the money that Andy and Mahomes now have made Clark Hunt and the value of that franchise over the last six, seven years, they're just all like, I know John lynch. Like I've met him before, I've had him on my other podcast years ago. But like I can't speak to how he is as like an evaluator besides just watching who he drafts. Like I've been around Veech and Howie. Like those guys are really good at their jobs. I mean really good. I mean Howie's one of the most dynamic guys in all of sports. Veech just is a really good natural like talent selector and obviously his rapport with the head coach and how his ability to kind of manage the whole thing, I think you know The Niners really benefit. Like, Kyle's just really pretty special X's and O's guy, you know, he's one of the few guys, unless you can nitpick him, and I do. But like, he's a really, really talented coach. He's just a coaching lifer, you know, Been around it from the moment he could walk. And I think those guys really benefit from the financial backing, the fan backing, the talented guys they have within the organization. But I think you could say that. Like, I don't know him personally, but I was texting a buddy in the NFL who works for a playoff team. Not one of those teams. Like, what do you think of Brandon Bean? Because I've just seen Brandon a bunch, like doing different interviews. I've never met the guy. And the guy was like, I really like him. I was like, I do too. I just think he's. He just kind of got an easygoing vibe. Clearly good at his job, has like a low ego vibe. But he also, you know, for example, like, let's use the 49ers. Like, Kyle and John are comfortable in front of a camera and they don't mind. Like, Kyle doesn't like doing it, but he's, he's good at it if he wants to do it. Like Sean McDermott, that's not really his thing. So part of Brandon Bean's job, the day and age of guy like the GM just sitting in a dark room watching players is dead. Trent Balke loved doing that. Just get him in a dark room, you just watch players all day. It's like, that's not your fucking job. Like, part of Brandon Bean's job is like to be the messenger for the bills because Sean McDermott's not really that big on that, which is fine. Like, there has to be. If you're in a business partnership with someone else, hopefully they bring things to the table that you don't. We got a lot of people that are involved with this podcast that are strong at social media, that are doing cut ups, that are doing the graphic stuff. I can't do any of that. You know, even the sales aspect, like, if you get me on a call with Company X, I can handle myself, but I don't have a connection to get Walmart on the phone or Microsoft on the phone. So, like, you need to be in business with other people that the distribution that Colin brings, I can't create that. So it's like the ebb and flow of a coach and a gm, like Sirianni and Howie bring that to the Table. Like, they balance each other out. And I think you can. The Bills are well run. The Ravens are well run. Like, all these organizations, they're going nowhere. They have. Well, they have people that know what they're doing, and they have a lot of money behind it. You know, I think that's part of the problem. I interviewed Greg Olson today, and it'll come out next week, and one thing he talked about is, like, you're on the phone with some of these teams when you're doing these games over the last three or four years, and you can just tell, you're like, this team is fucked. People, they just don't know what they're doing. And, like, you just can't fake it because the games happen. And then it's. Why, like, it is pretty easy for me to be critical of things that I see from a team operational standpoint, because I've been around people that know what they're doing. I mean, I'm very fortunate. I didn't know anyone in the NFL. Not a soul. I mean, not. My dad was a farmer, and the team that hired me had Howie Roseman as the GM and Andy Reid as the head coach. So it's like, that is my experience. And then right when I got out, I got to watch Jim Harbaugh be the head coach of the 49ers for two years. It's like. So basically, my experience in the NFL was just seeing that front and center. For my first, like, five years of being. My first five years being around the NFL, I was around that. So that's kind of like, you just watch some of these operations. You're like, I don't know if these people know what they're doing. And listen, everyone, Bill Walsh had shitty games, right? Belichick had bad. I'm not saying you could have bad. You could have bad season. But it's pretty clear who's good news, not right. And I think part of it is experience, and you learn. I would bet on all. All three of those teams, they're going to be good for a while. I would say, you know, if Andy were to retire. I see. I don't think he's going to retire as long as he's healthy. Like, he's going nowhere. So you look at their guys, like, where would Howie go? Where would Andy and Veech go? They don't want to go anywhere, and where would Kyle go? So it's like, as long as you got those guys, I mean, John's important, and obviously they need to draft well. But the star of the 49ers, even with Purdy making 180 million, is the head coach, you know, and Andy was the star of his organization for a long time until Patrick Mahomes showed up. So I, I would rather have the. I'd rather have my quarterback front and center, kind of like the Patriots forever, and then have my head Coach basically be 1B. But I think all the organizations are in pretty good spots. Okay, we'll end on that. Adios. Have a great day. Talk to everyone soon. See you.
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Maria Hinojosa
The volume.
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Jasmine Crockett, Democratic representative of Texas. She's holding down the fort for her party in one of the most conservative states in the union.
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John Middlekauff
I think that ultimately who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves to be punched and just say thank you like they will punch back.
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Katie Couric
Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Lithgow
Hello, I'm John Lithgow.
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John Middlekauff
We choose to go to the moon.
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John Lithgow
I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.
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John Middlekauff
It's one small step for man about.
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John Lithgow
Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.
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John Middlekauff
You're a great pilot, Buzz.
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John Lithgow
That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't. Buzz, starring me, John Lithgow, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Maria Hinojosa
When I became a journalist, I was the first Latina in the newsrooms where I worked. I'm Maria Hinojosa. I spent my career creating journalism that centers voices who have been historically sidelined. From the most pressing news stories to deep cultural explorations, Latino USA is journalism with heart. Listen to Latino usa, the longest running Latino news and culture show in the United States. Hear it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Middlekauff
It's Black Business Month, and black tech green money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting black founders, invest and innovators building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy tech and generational wealth. I had the skill and I had the talent. I didn't have the opportunity. Yeah, we all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to black tech green money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.