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3 & Out - Aaron Rodgers’ Final Season, Brock Bowers is a STAR & NFL International Games
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What is going on, everybody? John Middelkopf three and out podcast. How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing well and today we're going to talk some football because Aaron Rodgers said, this is it. This is Aaron Rodgers last season. So the last of a generation of the guys that were drafted in the late 90s and early 2000s. Peyton Manning's, Tom Brady's and Ben Roethlisbergers and Drew Brees have been long gone now. Aaron will join them, but we'll get to see one more season. So with some thoughts, there's Clint Kubiak had a comment on Brock Bowers found kind of interesting international games. Jerry tried to act like it's easier than getting wasted at night and how that relates to what we, you know, us the fans in terms of the timing of those games. We'll also do a mailbag at John Middlekopf. At John Middlekopf is the Instagram fire in the DMs. Get your questions answered here on the show. You guys know the drill. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast. If you listen on Collins feed, make sure you check out Netflix. Just hit the subscribe button or the alert button. You'll never miss an episode. As well as check out the YouTube channel. We have separate content up there. Haven't done something a couple days because I've had crazy, like kid stuff going on. But we've been putting some, you know, stuff that doesn't make it on the podcast up there. So you can check that out. But yeah, yeah, let's just, let's just dive into some football. Uh, but I do want to start with Rogers, who I watched his press conference today. I, I wouldn't exactly call him jovial. He wasn't Mr. Fun today. I wouldn't say he was miserable, but he was just, you know, kind of classic Aaron. They, they asked him, like, what had he been doing around town? Could he. Because he's been in town for a month, several weeks before he signed, he refused to say what he would do on his personal time. It's like, Aaron, this is not New York or Philly. These people, this media is not coming for your throat here. There's a lot like Green Bay, but he wouldn't play the game. He is pretty good with the football questions, but God damn. And listen, I, I'm as guilty. I can be really grouchy in the morning sometimes if I'm not in the mood. I really struggle socializing. As my wife says, when your social battery gets low, you just, you don't have much. And some of you guys in certain roles and sales that are out and about, like, it can wear you out being on. It's a pretty easy environment. But Aaron just, you know, I don't know if it's going back several years ago when he became nationally polarizing for his immune im. I was immunized, which again, I support him like fuck. I mean he wasn't alone. I think if you could redo that one, the participation rate in the NFL and society might be changed a little bit. But I think when you look at Aaron Rodgers, let's just look forward like this Pittsburgh Steeler team, what are the expectations? What would be a successful season? Because I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer here, but you're looking at a 42 year old guy over the course of the last several seasons, as most older players historically do now 40 is kind of the new 34, 35, 36 because of training, because of health. So guys, you know, Aaron physically has never looked better, right? I, I bet in terms of body fat, I bet strength wise, but I see a lot of people now that look fantastic. It's called GLP1s, it's called peptides, right? It's called our understanding of caloric intake. It's called understanding the power of not consuming sugars. We know more now in 2026 than we did 20, 30, 40 years ago. I mean there's some famous pictures of Kenny Stabler and Len Dawson sucking down heaters, drinking Coca Colas. I saw Wayne Gretzky once on a halftime with biz and the boys on TNT say that he used to drink Coca Cola during, during breaks, you know, in hockey, between the periods. So I, I would imagine if you went to all the NHL, you know, arenas during the playoffs, you, you wouldn't see many guys slamming, you know, a Coke. But things change. People treated their body better. But just because you look better, if I grab some random guy that's 45 and if he's like, I'm in the best shape of my life, it doesn't mean athletically he's in the best shape of his life. It doesn't mean from a situation of movement that he's less likely to rip ACLs, tear Achilles, you know, get injured if he's doing serious physical activities against other people. And we saw Rogers last year, he broke his hand and he mentioned today he, he broke bones in his wrist and bones in his arm. And I, I, I have nothing but respect for him that like he needed to prove nothing and he battled through it with a fucking cast on his hand. Like I respect the shit out of Justin Herbert too, but he got a lot to prove. So battling through that injury is like, he's kind of in the proving ground. Point of his career. Like, Aaron's got all the MVPs. He's got a title. Like, his resume was full before he ever showed up to Pittsburgh. Now, in a perfect world, would he like to add a title? Of course. Doesn't need to. Like, he's a champion, and he banged it out early on in his career. So if I was going to bet how this thing's going to go, I would just have a hard time seeing an older player stay healthy. And especially the way his game, you know, was predicated. Most of his career was movement. Right? He's one of the greatest throwers in the history of the league. For my money. He's thrown the best ball. Like, I. I can YouTube Marino, I can YouTube Prime Elway, I would say, ironically, him and Favre, that ball just came out different. And the difference with Rogers is he's the most. Like Steve Young and. And Drew Brees, you know, it's like, most accurate quarterbacks of all. Drew Brees did not have a great arm, so it was all about timing and rhythm. Steve had a better arm than Drew, but I wouldn't say he had a hose. Like, Aaron was throwing 100 miles an hour and, like, pinpoint Joe Montana accuracy. But at this point in time, like, I would just bet against this guy being able to stay on the field where Achilles, broken arm. He can't get away from sacks as much as he could be. Could once upon a time. And, like, that's just how he's used to playing. And I think it's a tough transition when you've been used to doing something one way in trying to transition out of it, whether you're a player or a coach. Like, why do you think Belichick is going on this media tour right now? Because he was getting skewered for a year plus, and he's finally like, I'll take the sum back into my own hand. The problem is Bill's not that good, right? He's just. In terms of, like, you put a camera in front of his face, it's like, it's. That's not where he's comfortable. He can talk football, but like, Lane Kiffin, I watched some of the clips today with. With Big Cat and those guys. Like, he can just. He's a bullshitter. He's good at it. You put Bill. It's like, bill, this just. This does not come off right. It's like, bill, you can't answer. No one would blame you if you were pissed off you didn't get into the hall of Fame. It was Bullshit. Anyone with a brain agrees with you, but he, like, can't answer the question because he's not really a bullshitter. Not his personality. He's an old school Northeastern. I mean, that's just, that's who he is. A lot of great coaches have fallen under that umbrella, you know, and I, I look at Aaron Rodgers like his personality is, is pretty well set. The problem is his game is dramatically different and their team. And it was, he made this clear. He was monitoring. Clearly he wanted a raise, but he was monitoring. Like, do I think we're going to be better? They add Pittman. They add another wide receiver in the second round. They take an offensive lineman in the first round. Clue. They wanted to add Makai Lemon. Like they were going to add offensive, you know, pieces to the team. They already had dk, who you know is a, is not a one, but he's a very unique player, especially with Rogers arm. You know, I just think that this team ceiling is if Aaron Rodgers makes the playoffs again and wins a playoff game, that would be, I mean, Pittsburgh Steeler fans should be doing cartwheels down the hallway. That would be a raving fucking success. I'd argue if he makes the playoffs again, that's an extremely successful season and a very commendable way to go out. I listen, I understand, like, he doesn't have to keep playing, but even if you're crushing in the market, you have some money saved away. There aren't many gigs paying $25 million. That's, that's not usually the way it works in the real world. Unless you want to start your own company and build it up, which is going to take some time. So, like, I understand coming back for $25 million to play for this iconic brand and, you know, a coach that he knows and comfortable with. But as he talked about today, the offense is different, right? Anytime that if you got back with someone that you dated eight years ago, you're going to be different people, I, I'm a dramatically different person at 40 than I was at 35. I remember when I got 35, I'm like, I don't even relate that much to the guy that I was 25. I, I definitely not to the guy that I was 18. Like, people change. People develop new thoughts, new ways to do things. Now maybe our core philosophies of how we treat people and if you're in football, your philosophical beliefs when it comes to doing stuff don't necessarily change. But as a human being, you change dramatically. And maybe with Rogers, his ego Is, you know, in terms of dealing with a coach is a lot different seven, eight years later than the way he dealt with McCarthy the last time. And McCarthy's had, you know, the Cowboy experience to humble him. I wouldn't say humble him because he had some success, but then he got fired. Maybe they're just different people, but I would bet on this being pretty clunky because I just have a hard time seeing him stay healthy if he does that. That's pretty incredible. I mean that, that really is, I feel like their ceiling is probably what it's been the last couple years. Sneak into the playoffs and get rolled in the first round. And listen, there's, there's something to be said like do you know what the jets would do to do that? Do you know what Aaron Glenn, Aaron Glenn would give you like his, his left pinky toe this year to make the playoffs? I mean, are you kidding me? So I, I, I just think Pittsburgh Steeler fans are just tired of the same thing over and over. But this also puts now a light. They're going to have to figure something out because, you know, unless Will Howard is just like, you know, they're Brock Purdy on their roster, they're just going to have a massive, massive hole at quarterback and they're just never going to suck enough to be drafting Super High. I mean, they just, I can't even remember the last time they sniff the top 10. Right? There are always worst case scenario, like 15, 16 and sometimes like 22, 23. And it's really hard to get a quarterback even in a good quarterback class when you're that far down. And there's clearly going to be a lot of teams sniffing around. So it's a big year at least if you're going to be a one and done situation with Rogers, you know, making the playoffs and hopefully competing in that game because that's another part. They've been in that first round now under Tomlinson the last couple years and they didn't have a shot. I mean, last year they got thoroughly embarrassed by the Texans in that playoff game. Was it Monday night playoff game? Remember, Stroud had a couple turnovers too. And what was the final score like 33 to nine. The previous two years against the Ravens and the Bills was not close. Clearly two years ago. I know the Bengals got off to that slow start, but by the end of the season the Bengals were better. So yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be fascinating to watch. And you know, he's clearly kind of the Last of a dying breed of his generation. He's younger than Manning and Breeze and Rivers and Brady obviously, but like he was their contemporary, right? He came in the league in 05. Manning, Breeze and all those guys have already been there. And all those other guys beside Brady had to quit because their body let him down. Roethlisberger, Breeze, Manning, Cam, I mean those guys shoulders stop working, they could not throw. Brady was clearly like, what am I doing this for? And it'll be fascinating truly to see how this ends this year with Aaron Rodgers, you know, Click Kubiak, who new coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, called Brock Bowers a football robot sent from heaven. And do you know what's funny? Anyone that's seen a picture of Brock Bowers just in his human clothes, like just looking like as a civilian or just standing there in shorts and a T shirt goes, this is one of the most talented tight ends to come into the league in a long, long time. If you put Brock Bowers next to, in a similar age, George Kittle, Travis Kelsey, pick some of the other high end tight ends over the years, like Vernon Davis back in the day, he would not get chosen above any of these guys ever, just based on the looks. But you know the great part about sports, it's like the great part about life, you ever meet that guy and go, you know, this guy's got an eight figure business. You're like, oh, where do you go to school? Like Harvard or Penn or UCLA or something? It's like, no, I went Chico State. He's just a fucking killer. He's just, he just has a great feel for what he's doing. Made some great moves. It's like, yeah, this guy's great at investing. It's like, where'd he learn that? You know, Cal Berkeley? It's like, no, he went to San Diego State. He just, he's a killer on that computer. He can fucking wheel and deal. He's made millions. It's like this guy was just born to do this. He's got great instincts and we all know those people in life, right, who are just very, very successful. But if you look at like where they went to school or how they got there, it's like, God, this guy probably shouldn't be in this position, but he just, he's just incredible at what he does. And he's kind of mastered it throughout the course of his career. And then you get to the point where you just, your instincts kind of carry you in life, right? I would imagine any of you guys that work in sales, typically the most successful salespeople are just great with other people. And you kind of have that. It's not like it's a skill you definitely can improve on to be more comfortable in those settings, but you kind of have it or you don't and you kind of. I look back and see some of the people that I went to college with that have done exceptionally well in life financially. They were kind of like that in college. In terms of their ability to socialize and sales. A large part of it is socializing, getting people to like you and then they do business with you. And it's just, it's like an instinctive quality that you can't teach others. And there's something to Bowers, like if you just see George Kittle, if you go to a practice, he looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger in a football player's body that can run like a wide receiver. He's something you would develop in a video game. Travis kelsey is like 6 5, 250 pounds and in his prime. Like his play speed was probably like 4 5, 0 sub 4, 5. Like his play speed was elite with the ball in his hands. You look at bowers, you're like, yeah, six, three, two, 40, kind of knock kneed kind of weird. But it's like he showed up at Georgia from Napa, which I wouldn't exactly call a recruiting hotbed. And most people thought he was Georgia's best, best player immediately on a team full of guys that all went to the NFL, especially on defense, all drafted high. He played from the jump and dominated. And then he gets to the NFL, it's like, is this really going to work? His first year he had 112 catches on a dog team. Last year he was injured and had seven touchdowns. Some people just got it, you know, clearly he. It's not like he's 5, 8, but I would by no means call him like the most physically gifted guy from a. From the terms of an offensive skill position. Like you look at B, John Robinson, you're like size, strength, speed, like the physical characteristics, or a guy like Saquon Barkley, they're elite prospects, right? And then their play matches what they look like. I would argue Brock Bauer's play does not match the guy. If you just Google image him. But he's fucking incredible. And some guys in football, basketball is like this. You're just a natural. And we all know those people in high school. And then your dad will be like, well, I know he's scoring 40 points right now, but he's 5 foot 10 and he shoots the ball too low, it'll never translate. And you're like, dad, no, look at these guys. And then it turns out he was right. Couldn't even play D2 basketball, right? And then there's these guys. You're just like, I don't know man, this guy can play. I remember being at Fresno State, we had guys that would go in the late rounds or undrafted free agents to have a 10 year career. Why? Because they just understood how to play the game of football. And it's really complicated, right? Especially a tight end, run routes, leverage, timing with your quarterback, what you do with the ball in your hand. And it's like, God put this guy on earth to play football. So I've heard similar from some coaches on the staff and scouts on the staff. This guy is just a freak show. Doesn't look like one, plays like one, which is always the most important thing. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet, Florida's Sportsbook. We obviously talk a lot of pig skin on this show, but the second round of the NBA playoffs is here now and you better believe we're gambling because any single night wimy can go for a triple double. How about a little same game parlay? You like ant to score over 30 points. You want to hammer the Knicks to win it all? Just need to win eight more games. And if you're ever late to tip off, don't worry. 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Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week. My guests SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.
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The International Games Jerry Jones had an interesting comment the other day where he discussed the international games from a player perspective and he says it's way more taxing on your body to have a night out on the town and then try to play a game the next day or in two days. Like when guys go out on a Friday night and they play on Sunday because NFL players a lot of times go out Thursday night or Friday night, especially younger players, sometimes Tuesday night. And recovering from that and as we know, dehydrates you lack of sleep. Now everyone tells me people are drinking less. I do think the football culture drinking is still pretty heavily correlated with the, with the individuals involved. That being said, no one said the international games were that hard on the players. They get a charter jet and if you're going far away, a lot of These teams go 4, 5, 6 days before. I would guess when the Rams and 49ers go to Australia to play that game on Friday morning, they're all there by I would say Tuesday at the latest. And even I would guess that they, they try to land sometimes on Monday Australian time to give themselves multiple days to acclimate practice and just get over the jet lag. So in terms of the travel, while it's not as ideal of the Rams flying to Seattle or the Niners flying to Arizona, they do make it as easy as possible from a meal standpoint, from a hydration standpoint, from anything you need, they will provide. And Jerry, trying to justify the international games, I don't think coaches are just complaining because coaches complain. It's what they do. You don't often hear players complain that much. If anything, they're like, could we get an extra buy? I rarely hear players Thursday night games. They complain sometimes, which is understandable because late in the game, you know, a lot of players will say they don't even feel like themselves to like Wednesday afternoon. But international games that get a full week of prep. I don't remember the last time that I heard a player that's like, yeah, this isn't kind of cool or just they just approach like a normal game. You know who's complaining are the fans, the people that are the season ticket holders, the people that want to travel to these games. Those of us are the ones losing out the international. And he's trying to justify it because they're going to sell this package. The NFL just allowed or disallowed, I guess before I didn't even know this, but it makes sense if you have a schedule, right? If you're the Eagles, you would. And you had to play an international home game, you would definitely not want that to be the Cowboys because the Cowboys home game at Lincoln Financial is kind of a big deal. Just like if you were the 49ers, you wouldn't want to give up the home game against Seattle or Seattle against the Niners, you would want to, you are not allowed to designate any games. So what does that tell you? The Bears and the packers, the Niners in Seattle and the Rams, the Eagles and the Cowboys. If the Giants get good, the Eagles and the Giants, obviously the Ravens and the Steelers, they are going to treat. I think this is pretty clear that Thursday Night Football has become a big deal that's going to get sold for way more than Amazon's already paying. And Amazon will keep the game. I'm sure Monday Night Football historic brand going nowhere will continue to be taken very seriously. Sunday Night Football biggest television show in America. It's a, it's a little, it's hard to compare apples to apples just because television has dramatically changed. But there is no disputing the Sunday Night Football is the most watched television show for a many years running. That thing is going to sell for a lot of money. But if I can sell you an international package and this is what I hope they don't do. If, if Every game is 6:30 in the morning for us on the west coast and they make those games good, I kind of like it because sometimes if like I had I was out late watching a bunch of college football, I want to go to the gym before I start watching football day. I don't even need to pay attention to a lot of those games. It'll be like Colts, Jags, right, Or Cardinals Commanders or whatever. It's not going to lead the show Monday morning. But if that game becomes Packers, Bears or Eagles, Cowboys or Bills, Pats, you know, everyone's going to have to pay attention because that would be one of the biggest games of the day. Now I guess what could happen is the international games could become more of a 10am kickoff. I think it's a little hard with the timing, especially if it's over in London. But that is also going to dramatically diminish the Sunday slate. And what you know the I, I, I expensive I guess, but the DirecTV package, you know, the, I guess now it's on YouTube. The Sunday Ticket is not as important because the inventory sucks and the inventory is going to be diminished with another game gone. And as you get into the season as teams have buys, you just don't have as many games on Sunday morning and Sunday afternoon. And I do wonder if they don't care as much for a long time the Fox afternoon game with, you know, they've changed the crews. It used to be Bucket Aikman forever. Now it's, it's Brady and Burkhart and the afternoon game with Tony Romo and Jim Nance. Those games on a given week could be incredible. Chiefs, Bills, Eagles, Cowboys, Seattle Rams, whatever, right? Packers, Bears, that was a prime time slot. Raven, Steelers, you name it. It was a sweet AFC at NFC game. I wonder if they're looking at it and be like, yeah, those are no longer going to be guaranteed sweet games, but you're going to have to pay more just for the access of the games on Sunday. And we're going all in to really dramatically improve our revenue on the primetime games, which include it. While it's a morning game, it's a primetime international game. That's what it feels like. And that's where we get fucked. Like, I think the average person who loves football, I was just at a golf tournament the other day with a bunch of dudes, right? I mean, a lot of these guys work in finance. Hell. There was a couple of former major League baseball players there. Just guys from the ages, probably 30 to early 60s, all in the private sector, all working. Do you know what they all had in common? They like to booze. They wanted to win this golf tournament because there was some cash on the line and they all could talk football. I had football conversations with countless people because it's kind of a consistent common ground that a lot of us men share in America. And I think if I pulled every single one of them, would you rather have every single week a morning game, like an early morning game, or that game not exist and just be part of the slate? I think it would be universal, 100%. We do not need it now. That's. They don't care because it's revenue for the league, which I understand. If I was in their shoes, I would do it too. But this is the first thing that is not really debatable. That's going to be pretty. Like, I think this is a little much. And this is one of those where it's like, I don't even have a problem with international games. Like, I get the logic behind it. To me, it's more the timing. I despise these morning games. I remember a couple of years ago, it was like the shitty Belichick team against Gardner Minshew Colts. It's like this game, you could throw this in a POW camp and everyone would, you know, sing like Canary. They'd be like, I'll get me turn this thing off. What do you need to know? And that. That's what it feels like a little bit. So these guys are all Cocky. Football's king. Because it is. But this international morning thing is going to be the first time where I think we're all good. This is much. I never had an issue with Thursday night game. Everyone was watching them at. Everyone was watching it when your team played it, and it was really fun. This feels like Sunday morning. Like people, like kind of sleep in. You know this. It's the one day where the majority of people don't really do much right. Beside go to church, hang out their family, lounge around. Right. You can't even say about Saturday. Well, I'm sure a lot of people listening work on Saturday. Most people. I mean, depending on what you do for a living, Sunday would be a day where most share in common. It's like we're not doing much and that's where football has you in the fall. But do you want to watch it before you even get out of bed? I don't think so.
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How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a
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People could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, hey Jonas. And offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Another podcast from Some SNL late night comedy guy not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.
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Okay, let's do some mailbag questions. We're not gonna go crazy today on the mailbag. Probably do a big mailbag leading into Memorial Day weekend at John Middelkoff at John Middlekoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS questions answered here on the show. This is from Sean can we please get a pulse Check on Mahomes. In his mid-20s he earned multiple MVPs. He won three Super Bowls and a lot of people were thinking he was going to end up the goat next to Tom. But now he will be 31 in September. He has seemed to have lost some explosion in the last couple years and now he's coming off an acl. How do you see the latter half of his career going? Will he still go down as one of the greats or will we just view a 68 year prime as one of the greatest runs we've ever seen? For context, Rogers won MVPs at 37 and 38, Brady won one at 40 and Manning at 37. His run from, what was it, 18 to a year ago, he did not play well last year. So let's remove last year up until the Eagles super bowl was spoke for itself because those couple years his stats weren't as great as his early dominance. Right. When who won the mvp? Josh won it last year, Lamar won it the previous year. Did Mahomes win it two years ago or may I forget? I have to look. But his early years where he's throwing like 50 touchdowns were undeniable. But to me, his playoff performances those couple years where the Chiefs after they traded Tyreek were like icing on his cake, that by itself, hall of Fame career, first ballot, you're one of the greatest runs in the history of the league. But if you're going to be compared to Brady or Manning or Rogers in terms of like the longevity of your career, I'm with you. He was not good last year. He just, he didn't play that well. Right. I think he would tell you that. I think if you know Coach Reed was not on a microphone, he would probably tell you that too, right? Chiefs fans would tell you that. Like it was, it was a down season for everyone involved. They were just off. Maybe they were out of gas. However it was, I think he is going to be highly motivated. I would expect him to play a lot better in the next couple years. I think the easiest way to help him out is because they're going to need to replace Kelsey over the course of the next couple of years. Who knows with Rasheed Rice who's just can't get a shit together. But I think running the football is why they signed Kenneth Walker. They drafted. I forget who they. I want to say the Nebraska running back in the mid rounds. I do think they're going to emphasize that more next year. And their defense, they went heavy on defense and just make it a little bit easier on them because you got to get away. Like you can't just be carried or you carry a team thrown 40, 50 times a game for 15 straight years. They're going to be individual games. But as you age you're going to need some help. So if he is going to be truly considered like as good. You know, John Elway went to Super Bowls when he was young and then again when he was old. Right now the thing he's got going for him, he has a great organization, he has a great coach, great defensive coordinator, I would bet. I don't know what exactly this will look like this season, but I do think we will see good Mahomes. In his 30s, I can see it being a little up and down. I mean he's gonna have to learn to trust his acl. He's out playing golf the other day. So I mean he, he's clearly healthy enough to do that movement. I, I think he's recovered pretty well. One thing he's shown is from a recovery standpoint, even going back to when he dislocated his knee, he comes back fucking fast. Is there a known Wemby type player in next year's draft? Could you ever see an owner deliberately tank? Well, we discussed this yesterday. Like the thing that makes Victor Wembanyama or LeBron James or Andrew Locke or John Elway or Peyton Manning. When you have a guy that like not all drafts are created equal like this draft. Let's say all four of these guys become all stars in the NBA draft. It is not as good as the Wembanyama draft because if you got Victor Wembanyama, there's no chance any of these guys are as good as him, right? No different than the LeBron James draft. This draft could never. Even if Dwayne Wade, those other guys hadn't existed. If all four of these guys become All Stars, none of them will be as good as LeBron James, right? So I think a draft in the NFL to have a Victor Wembanyama type player, he has to be a quarterback. Because Miles Garrett was an elite prospect, became an elite NFL player, number one overall pick and it doesn't matter, his team sucks, right? If Miles Garrett was the equivalent of a quarterback, the Browns would be incredible. So I would say as we sit here right now, there, there is not a Victor Wembanyama. And I would say the last Victor Wembanyama in football was Andrew Luck. I didn't agree with the Trevor Lawrence comps and clearly that hasn't lived up to the hype. If Caleb had been 6 5, I would say he was a pretty special prospect. He would have been. I mean his comp would have just been Josh, a better version of Josh Allen. Not that like Caleb's height is a detriment, but it's like gotta move sometimes to see. And he's inaccurate too. As of right now. Hopefully that improves if you're a Bears fan. But I would say as of right now, there are no Victor Wembanyama players because the quarterbacks aren't good enough. Now Jeremiah Smith, some of these other players that other positions could emerge who could be, you know, the next Aaron Donald, the next Richard Sherman, the next Travis Kelsey, whoever. But those guys in football don't guarantee you anything. They don't guarantee you, you know, in basketball if you get the elite player, the all time great All Star, you're guaranteed to win. You're just guaranteed to be good. Now how good? The spurs had to draft other, multiple other players, right? But the number one thing that changed their franchise was the guy that's like 8ft 2 inches tall who can shoot and move. I wasn't really paying attention to the Knicks game and I had it on in the background. We were kind of running late. We didn't eat till like 7:30 at night. Put them, put them to bed early and it was like, God, they're getting their ass kicked. Then all of a sudden I look over and they're just fucking coming. Oh my God, it's three after three after three. Jalen Brunson is everything. Daryl Morey told me James Harden was in the playoffs because forever Daryl Morey called James Harden better than Michael Jordan as a scorer. It's like that can't even be remotely true if he. Every single time he plays in a playoff game, it looks terrible. No one gives a shit when you score 50 against Sacramento Kings in 2018 or how many points you scored against the Phoenix Suns in a random January game in 2017. No one cares. You know, I mean, bam. Adebayo scored 85 points, but I don't think there's ever been a player in my lifetime who was as dominant his, you know, throughout his career in the regular season has accomplished as much. Who's just terrible in the playoffs for, for as long as this is gone now. And let's be real, like,
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are considered in bat, like in football, some people just have deficiencies, right? DeAndre Hopkins could never run past people. You know, Drew Brees was never going to have the strongest arm. They were just going to be. Richard Sherman could never run like Deion Sanders. So you had to play around your strengths. Certain guys in basketball are not going to be great defensive players, but if you don't, anyone that's played pickup basketball, high school basketball, college, if you literally do not try on defense, that's a reflection of you. Like, I mean, you can try a little. No one's asking you to be, you know, Gary Payton here, but Steph Curry is physically not gifted enough to be a dominant defender. But he tries. I mean, that has to be one of the biggest, like, black marks on Harden's career. It's like he literally doesn't try on defense. Like, doesn't try at all. No, like, doesn't he just let you go? It's like olay, you know, sometimes like an offensive lineman, like a lookout or watch out, block. Like, watch out. He might have got smoked, but he's probably trying. He just couldn't touch the guy because he's too fast. Like Von Miller bent the edge. I just can't imagine being like a $50 million player and never trying on defense in the NBA. It's like, you don't try. No, I just don't even try. You just don't even like, move your feet at all? No, I just kind of stand there. This was crazy about the NBA. Like, no one even said. Like, no one even says anything. I saw, I was listening to Wind Horse today too. I guess Kenny Atkinson said after the game that James Harden was one of their best defend night. It's like, Kenny, you don't need to kiss his ass, bro. He's like 38 years old. He's not like, just let this guy walk. Friday idea. Fugazi Friday idea for you. My boss is resigning. Now, mind you, this is someone who made six figures to not be very good at their job and is leaving for another position in which she will be making remotely. She will be working remotely with a friend of hers. My workplace started a sign up genius for everyone to sign up to give her a farewell gift. I will not participate. People leave all the time and we never give them anything. Why do we have to kiss the ass of someone who makes more than we do and take money out of our pockets to buy them stupid gifts? Yeah, there's no chance I would buy. If you don't like her and she makes a bunch of money and like you said, you think she's bad at her job, I'd be like, see you. Some people are just kiss asses. It's why I was never a great fit for corporate America. It's why I'd be an awful politician. I guess maybe in this day and age I'd be better. I just couldn't bullshit. It's why sometimes socializing can be hard for me if I'm not in the mood. Like, I just can't fake it. I can only have a conversation with someone I have nothing in common with at a social event for a small period of time before. It's like, I, I got, I, I got nothing. I mean, I, I, I can't, I, I, I, I hate, I hate being fake. I despise it. I hate fake people. And that's a huge part of corporate America, especially people that suck at their job. It's like, wait, you're my superior. Like, part of it is like, you know, I, I worked in football. Sometimes you just, you had to be on your best behavior. It's, it's one thing. And I was lucky. I mean, I worked for people that were very capable at their job, even if I disagreed with them. At times you just kind of kept your mouth shut. I couldn't imagine. When I went to radio, it was one thing like, you know, it's like, you want to say something to Howie, you just kind of have to keep your mouth shut. Right? It's, it's part of life. But at least I knew, like, this guy's really good at his job. Or when I was in Fresno State for Pat Hill, when I went to radio, I worked for these people. I'm like, I, if, if roles were reversed, I don't think I'd hire any of these people. I, I would literally fire the whole building that's why I didn't last long. I'd like come in and out. I didn't have any relationships. I, I didn't respect 90 of the people I was ever around. I'm like, this is such a low level group. So I, I have a lot of sympathy for those of you that work at places, especially if a successful company or whatever. And you're like, there are like 10 people here that just suck. Especially once you know what they're making. You're like this, this person's making 300 grand and doesn't do that. Creates a lot of resentment. Yeah, just, it's, I, I feel you, Doug. I would not get anything. You were talking about international games compared to TNF and how the Thursday games used to be bad and now they're great. I wonder if putting really good games international slate could be backfire a bit. Viewers are annoyed that a great game is starting early in the morning. Fans are mad their team is being forced to have another important game so far away. Lose a home field advantage, etc. Works on Thursday because it's still local and people are already home watching tv. So why not make it good international? You're moving a good game Sunday game to a worse spot. I listen, we just hit on it earlier. Couldn't agree more. I, I, this is the first time where I'm like, they're getting a little aggressive on this and, and what is the outcome going to be? If you tell me in 20 years, you know, football has expanded dramatically financially in all these different markets. Is that guaranteed? I don't know. It's harder to grab people's attention now. Why does Kirby Smart get a pass for the numerous off the field incidents with Georgia Bulldogs? I believe there have been 25 plus incidents of speeding, DUI, reckless driving since 23. And Kirby appears to take no accountability. Well, this is what happens when you get nil. I pay you 500 grand, 800 grand, a million dollars, you get a fucking DUI or you get speeding like you bought the car with your own money. You know, 20 years ago I might have been able to through the program get you a car, but that would have been like a Jeep Cherokee. Now these dudes are driving like Ferraris. So I say it all the time. I'm not a huge car guy. I've had Chevy Tahoe for a decade. We got Maria, new car, it was Tahoe. You know, I'm not, I got friends that I know. I play golf with a guy, older guy, got a Corvette, see a bunch of Ferraris around town and shit like that. That doesn't interest me at all. But I do know this because I've been in a few fast cars in my day. To give an 18, 19 year old kid the access, I mean they have the access through the money. You should have to take a fucking class. It's one thing if the kids drive in a Suburban or a truck and even those now like, you seen the, the Ford Raptor? My buddy Jeff Fong bought one within the last year. It's got like 800 horsepower. Hell, I remember when I, when I turoed the Tesla I was like, this thing hauls ass. So you, if I would have been an 18 year old kid and you just gave me the Tesla, I could easily get into a wreck, easily. It would go so fast. I mean, I drove a 94 Ford Explorer that by the time you got over 60 miles an hour, the whole thing shook. I feel like most of the cars that I grew up on, like in my generation, especially a bigger car, if you got over like 70 miles an hour, it felt like an earthquake. Now you get into a Tahoe, you can go to 100 miles an hour pretty easily and it's pretty smooth, let alone the car these guys are driving. Because all my friends that scout these schools, they go into, these programs are like, their parking lot is nicer than our parking lot in the NFL. So I, I guess in a roundabout way, like what's Kirby supposed to do? Don't drive fast. Tell that to an 18, 19 year old kid, they don't give a shit. I think it happens in a lot of other programs. You just don't find out. I mean, Reuben Bain was involved in something like young boys in fast cars are going to drive fast. It feels Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers, it feels like two X's getting back together. They both know, even though they both know better. On one hand I know it will be a crash and burn, but on the other, the packers fan in me wants to see Rogers hold up the Lombardi one last time. Also growing up, who are some of your favorite players and did you ever consider rooting for the Raiders as a kid? I would say no. Start with the latter. When I was a kid, the 49ers were in the middle of their dynasty. Montana, just been traded and I remember started watching Steve Young was my favorite player. Jerry Rice, my favorite player. They drafted Bryant Young from Notre Dame, Ricky Waters. I'm like, this fucking team is. It was like watching the 27 Yankees going up against the Cowboys who were also like 27 Yankees. The Raiders weren't even. Raiders weren't even in Northern California when I was a kid. They came back in the mid-90s, so when you're nomadic, it's hard to pick up fans. And the other team was becoming the biggest brand in football, so I never did. But when I did do radio and was around them, I had a huge appreciation for like, you know, I do think they live by this. The once a Raider, always a Raider. There's like a collegiate. It kind of has like USC or University of Texas. You know, their former players were just always around on the payroll. It just felt kind of. You probably just. The Steelers are probably like that a lot. And it's a lot because the same family had owned it forever. And now I saw Mark. I mean, this guy, this billionaire guy is going to end up owning it all very, very soon. Which, if you're a Raider fan, you should be pretty excited about, because I do think it'll take the franchise to another level in terms of financially. What were your other questions? My favorite players as a kid were Steve Young, Jerry Rice, for sure. Well, probably like most people in the mid 90s, Barry Sanders and Brett Favre were probably non 49ers. My favorite players. I love Chris Carter, you know, his ability to like keep his feet in bounds and catch the ball on the sideline. I like those, Those mid to late 90s Minnesota teams. Robert Smith, the running back from Ohio State, Jake. He wore 86. I forget his last name. And obviously when they added Randy and Randall Cunningham, that team was pretty fun. You know, Michael Jordan, Barry Bonds. Like most kids, I just like the superstition.
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Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
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What's the news?
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Huge news. We created our own podcast called hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it, we just contributed to it. The first people to do podcasts. Pretty. Yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts starting a trend. But this one's extra special, so how did we. How do we actually come up with the name hey Jonas? Because guys, I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it and well, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes, I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing a
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People could call in and say hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that. Guys, listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy. Not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.
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Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
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Just recently got into Trout National. Don't sleep on Matt here and would love to bring you out sometime. I'd love to come. Or is that in Jersey? Is Jackson Dart a top 10 quarterback? I get, I get it. He's got a slide. But what he did with the talent around him last year and the dumpster fire of an organization was one of the better rookie seasons I've seen in a while. I think before. He's got a long way to go to be a top 10 quarterback. I think I saw a headline today or I saw it on Rotor World. He like gave a quote. He's like yeah, we're going to be a running team. Harbaugh told him like we're going to fucking run the ball. They're going to run the ball. And I think the play action game, I think it's going to be like old school Flacco type offense. They're going to try to be good on defense and have like a ground and pound offense. He's not really a ground and pound quarterback. You know, he's a makeshift happen with his legs spread. Quarterback from Lane Kiffin. It'll be interesting to see Jackson and and Nagy coming from Andy that likes to throw the ball with, with Harbaugh who probably has wet dreams about, you know, running power on third and one. I think the Giants are gonna be fascinating this year. I'm not as high. They're definitely gonna be a lot better than last year. But this notion they're just some lock playoff team, like let's, let's see how it comes together. We got a lot of unknowns, a lot of unknowns. Like they got a lot of pass rushers who are sweet. I think Abdul Carter, his talent as a player is he, he could become a version of Micah Parsons. Brian Burns is awesome now and Arvell Reese's ceiling is high as the moon. But like can these guys stop the run? Abuel Carter plays a run he did in college. Sitting outside my kids daycare and heard your take on going out with a four month old for dinner. Do it now. I have a three and five year old and it's way worse going out to dinner now than it was when they were confined as a newborn. Sadly it gets worse before it gets better. I refuse to go out and eat. I kind of do too honestly. We'll just make dinner, I'll go pick up something. It's just newborn 3 year olds. I listen, I got married a little later in life, you know, I'm 39. I, I had a lot of years where I could eat whatever I wanted and I ate whatever I wanted. And I've been to restaurants from Carl's Jr. To the nicest steakhouse. Like I, I can just eat at home, press a button, get shit delivered kids involved until they get to be like, can sit there and have normal conversation and be a normal contributing member of the table. I, I, I'm not trying to force little kids at dinner. I'm good with it, you know, I, I'm good with it. So I, we get out of the house, we'll just go on a walk or something. But the dinner with a four year month old or a three and five year old, none of that sounds fun to me and I'm not even trying to be Debbie Downer. But it's like I listen, I've been fortunate enough, I, I've eaten out enough to, I ate out, you know, way more than I ever did when I was a kid. It's crazy. People eat out a lot more now than when I did when I was young. I was telling someone the other day maybe like prom, but if I remember correctly, a prom. I think we went to like an Italian restaurant. I don't Think I ever went to like a true high end steakhouse my entire life growing up, until I got to college and we went to some like when parents would come visit, but I don't think I ever went to a steakhouse. Not that I would have liked that when I was young, but like in my teens, I don't, I don't ever remember going to. Now granted, I grew up in Davis. All we had was Sacramento. But there was Morton's, which was like the nice steakhouse that was relatively close. I never went there. Buckhorn, I guess, would be, would be one that would kind of be considered it. That being said. So yeah, I mean, I'll probably see some leftovers tonight. You know, that being said, huge Rams fan, St. Louis days. It breaks my heart to watch the home games in la knowing they basically have no home field advantage. I know it was a money grab to leave St. Louis, but they had a great fan base and great fan base there almost immediately. Thoughts? But didn't you guys steal the team from la? That's my thing. I would feel terrible, like if you just told me the Bears, the Bears moved to North Dakota. That's a bad example because it's a small, you know, small place. But let's say the Bears had moved to Los Angeles. I'd be like, that is fucked up. Or the Eagles just moved to Florida, right? Or North Carolina, or just pick a, pick a place. I would feel a lot of empathy for the fan base. It's like the team has been here forever, but you got the Rams in whatever year you got them because you stole them from Southern California. The Rams, when I was a kid, like really, really young, used to be in Los Angeles, you know, with Eric Dickerson. And then you took them. So I don't disagree with you that it's like I don't know how many people in Los Angeles, like, it's cool when they're good, like people are paying attention, but it ain't the Dodgers and not the Lakers. It never will be. It's not even possible, right? But I have a hard time. I remember Joe Buck, when they moved back, got really, really mad. You know, He's a big St. Louis guy. It's like you guys sold the fucking team. This is not like stealing the St. Louis Cardinals. If you saw the St. Louis Cardinals to Los Angeles, I'd be like, that. That is insane. It's like, yeah, they just moved them back to where they're from now. Cronky, didn't he go to the University of Missouri? Isn't he kind of from that area. I could see one of your own guys who's such a whore because he loves his money so much, takes him to the bigger market, which financially was the smartest thing he's ever did. But again, he took a team that had already been there back. You know, like, I feel some sympathy for the Raider fans that lost their team to Oakland, even though, like, Oakland would be the last place any major league would put a team in 2026. Like, they would have no chance to get a team. I mean, I saw three teams move in, like, five years. Basketball team immediately moved across the bridge. Baseball team did everything humanly possible to leave. And Mark Davis tried to move for years, but, like, the Raiders started there, then they moved. Like, they're a little. They're nomadic. So I do understand it. But it's not like the Bears, the Eagles, the Yankees. Yes, the Cowboys. Like, these teams move. The 49ers. Like 49ers. My entire life been. Been in Northern California. The 49ers have moved four times. Like I have left less sympathy. Like, the Red Sox ain't moving. If you're a team that moves like, that's more of a reflection of the franchise. And there's just how many friends, how many major franchises move a lot. Think about the. The marquee brands in America. Dallas Cowboys, Green Bay Packers, Pittsburgh Steelers, Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks, New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers. All those teams have been where they've been for some forever, some of the Bears, some the entire time, the Cubs, and most for 50, 60 years. Like the Dodgers did move, but what year they move? 50s. Like the Giants moved, but the San Francisco Giants were the, you know, came from New York, but they've also been in San Francisco now. Since when? With Willie Mays and Willie McCovey in like, the late 50s, early 60s. I forget the exact day, but how many generations is that? 3,4 of humans that, you know, have grown up on the team? Like, once you get multiple generations. They were in St. Louis. You know, let me. When did the Rams. Rams. Is there a Wikipedia Los Angeles Ramps. So they were the Cleveland Rams kind of seems. Moved a lot. They were the Cleveland Rams 36 to 42, 44 to 45. Then they moved to Los Angeles in 1946, just wrapping up a little World War. So they were in Los Angeles from 46 to 94 and then came back in 2016. You stole them for 20 years. I just, I have. I don't have much sympathy for you, honestly. If it's like, you know, you leave your wife for a stripper and you think the stripper loves you, and then the stripper cheats on you and leaves you for somebody. Like, that's kind of on you. Like, I understand you grew up on the ramps in St. Louis, so you liked them, but they were there because you stole them. And then Cronky kind of backstabbed you because you thought he was one of your own. It turns out. No, he likes. He likes the Pacific. Don't blame them. We'll end on that. Adios. Have a great day. See you later.
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Hey guys, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
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I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We. We just contributed to it. First people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick. Listen to hey Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
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Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smigel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier this week. My guests SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an acapella band with their between songs banter.
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Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
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Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021, and I'm Conky, his best friend and business manager. And we've got a new show called the 1021 podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers we also love sports, and with the World cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.