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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - Best of The Week: Scottie wins the PGA Championship, Eagles extend Sirianni, Tush Push SURVIVES.
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John
What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing well out there in the real world and hopefully you're having a good Memorial Day weekend. We thought we'd put together a little best of for the weekend while, you know, we're probably having a few cocktails, enjoying some sun, cruising around with the fam, hanging out. So here's the deal. We put together a little something something starting with Scotty Scheffler who won his third major and now has a chance to really head toward legendary status and put the pedal to the metal, but gets over the edge, dominates guys like Jon Rahm and Bryson Dechambeau. The Philadelphia Eagles had a lot going on last week, but it started with them extending Nick Sirianni, so he will be the coach for the foreseeable future. And to top on that, the Tush push, which I would say has been a defining play for Sirianni in his tenure with Jalen, survived. So we discussed that as well. Jason Kelsey coming out of the bullpen to help talk a lot of owners that were on the fence to the Eagle side and that play can still rock and roll. So let's dive into some football and some golf. You know, I got to tell you about my friends, my partners and the official ticketing app of this podcast, Game Time. Best in the business. Honestly, there's not even a close second. I've used them all. In any event, you want to go to, you want to go to a baseball game? MLB season in full swing? Do you want. Are you a Knicks fan? You want to save a little money? These tickets are not cheap. You want to see the Pacers. That was a rivalry that I grew up on. Reggie Miller vs. Patrick Ewing, John Starks. Get in on the action. Anything. Hockey games, obviously. Concerts, comedy shows. You can search by venue, you can search by the team, you can search by price point. It does not get any easier. I cannot recommend these guys enough. So here's the thing. 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I mean, he's just such a heavy favorite in every tournament he plays in now, you know, minus 4 or plus 400 or plus 300, he's like a 4 to 3 to 1. I mean, good players typically is someone that's been gambling on golf now for, I don't know, half a decade. You know, high, high end guys are like 11 to 1, 12 to 1, 14 to 1. And Scotty is routinely like 4 to 1. And honestly, it doesn't feel that crazy. Your boy might have threw a little on him. Why? Just because he's a great player. And then all of a sudden in the middle of these tournaments, he'll be like, minus 450. Like, this guy's a fucking monster. I don't know what it looked like in the Tiger era because, you know, the draft kings of the world did not exist. But I would imagine there were a lot of similarities. When this guy gets on and he won the tournament Saturday night or Saturday afternoon, that's when the tournament was won. And I would say, listen, Scotty Scheffler has won a lot. He's won multiple green jackets. That stretch that he had on Saturday afternoon, hole 14, to close it out till 18. You know, birding four of his last five holes and just knocking it stiff after stiff. It's like, she had to be. Especially relative to the field as the entire field is falling apart. Had to be one of the greatest five, six hole stretches of his career. And today, what feels good about validating this if you're Scotty Scheffler is like, there were some questions. Like, he plays really well at the Masters. He's won all these tournaments. Like, are you gonna start knocking off some of these other majors? He's like, yeah. Yes, I am. We'll start with here at Quail Hollow. You know, that course that everyone says that Rory wins over and over, or that course that your boy thought that Bryson DeChambeau was going to demolish. I'm not just going to win that. I'm going to win that by five. And I'm also going to bogey 18, where I easily could have won by six. No one was even close to me. Remember a couple weeks ago when I won by like 10 and I absolutely blew up the field? And you're like, well, you're playing nobody's. How about we go to a major, best field and golf mini, say the PGA Championship, and I beat the living piss at everyone in sight? And that's what he just did. And listen, I'm not going to compare anyone ever to Tiger woods, but Scotty is a monster I mean, he is, he is so freaking good at golf, it's stupid. And here's the thing. Over the last five years at majors, this guy is a bright lights player. Starting in 2021, he was T18, T8, T7, T8, and all the majors. Then he started winning in 22, he won the Masters. He missed the cut at the PGA, but then he finished second at the US Open. T21. And these last couple years, it's like, it's not even a fair fight. T10, T2, third. T23 first. T8, T41, T7, fourth first. And he's going to be the heavy, heavy favorite at Oakmont. And his game, like no one will ever be Tiger Woods. I've said it all the time. His name is unique, right? Just his story, his dad, Earl. Like the whole thing, I mean, started from a young age, the dominance, but what this guy's doing right now, and I felt pretty confident about this, like, is he going to win 15 majors like Tiger? Of course not. I think that would be crazy to even put out there. But is this guy more likely to win eight or nine than four or five? I would say yes, because the only thing that could remotely slow him down was some glass shards in a hand. Because when you watch him against Bryson, against Rom, against whoever, there's a clear gap. And Rory, who will get into in a minute, like, what the hell was that? Now, you could argue that Rory winning the Masters, playing with a little house money, not as much pressure on this tournament. I, I would tend to agree. But when you're having one of the best seasons of your career, you've already won three times, you get the monkey off your back with the Masters. This is a course in which you've won at multiple times. You would think that he would show up, but he's nowhere to be found. Bryson is an incredible talent. I mean, to me, the craziest part about Bryson is he is blowing it 30, 40 yards by Scottie Scheffler. His short game is unreal. I mean, he had a couple of flop shots day around the green as someone that had him to finish in the top five. Like, I was kind of on tilt, but he had a couple wedges around the green that were world class and his putting is excellent. But to me, like, you watch Scotty Scheffler, I could give him a seven iron and I go, Scotty hit this 200 yards. He could hit it 200 yards. I'd say, I could say Scotty hit like a buttercut. And hit it 158 yards and he could hit it around that vicinity. Meanwhile, Bryson's 195 yards, he's hitting nine iron. Like, I'm not here to nitpick Bryson's operation. It clearly works and he's an elite player. But like the gap between Scotty and Bryson when it just comes to hitting irons, like, I, I heard, I was going to pick up dinner last night and I was listening to the no laying up. They do like a reaction show after every major day. And DJ Pie, one of their guys was saying, like, it can't be easy to play when you're hitting a nine iron or 195 yards. Like, what are you hitting? A six iron one. Like, what's the point of some of these longer clubs? It's not like you're hitting a 5 iron 290 yards. So your distances are all wacky. But like your wedges, like, what are you doing from like 140, 150, 170 and a couple times a day you're watching Bryson, he's not even close. And that's where Scotty will eat you alive, is like, give him 160. That's where he's very, very comfortable with. And you're watching Bryson, who honestly should have been right there, but his iron play is just kind of wacky. I mean, listen, I'm not one to say, like, he shouldn't be playing the same length irons, but like, whatever Scotty is able to do with like a seven iron, a nine iron in his hand, it feels like Bryson's playing like Kyle Berkshire on Instagram. It's like, what are we doing here? And listen, John Rahm, who to me is like a legit high end player when he's on like today, melted at the end. But a lot like Scotty like has a bunch of different shots in the back. And at one point in time today, Scotty is just leaking oil. Just your classic playing like, shit. He's just playing really bad. Not because the moment's too big, not because he's overwhelmed, not because he's never won a big tournament, not because there's pressure. He's just not on. Something was just off. And then you look up, he finishes the ninth hole, or basically he's on 10. He, he's nine under. Jon Rahm is also nine under with a birdie putt on 12 from like 10ft. Jon Rahm misses Scotty, then birdies 10 and then it flips and then Scotty never looks back. And once Scotty got that little buffer. Then Rob get toward whatever they call it, the Green Mile, and just kind of imploded. And then it ended up like, John Rom's not even on, like, the leaderboard you see on tv, and Bryson's right there. Now, Bryson technically wasn't that close, but there were a couple moments today and even yesterday, it's like, I don't really know what's going on. Like, I get it, he's got these weird irons. But, you know, to me, Scotty's a much more complete player for a guy that's not even hitting it. And I heard a couple people say, like, if you followed that group with Xander and Rory and Scotty on Thursday and Friday, that those guys are blowing it by Scotty, like 20 yards, 25 yards. And listen, if you play with another individual that's longer than you, that's not that weird. It is kind of weird when you look at Scotty. He's a big ass dude. Xander's much smaller, and he hits it way farther than him. But, like, when you're splitting fairways and then you're knocking it on greens and you're making putts, like, it doesn't really matter. And that's the one thing with golf. Obviously, distance is very, very important. Bryson's kind of hacked the system, but you still got to get the ball in the hole. And that, to me, is a skill that, like, even when Scotty started to unravel today, I never thought, like, this is implosion coming. It never crossed my mind he was going to shoot 76. Now I did think, like, if Jon Rahm starts birdie in three or four holes, maybe they just both end up like 10 or 11 under and we have a playoff. But the one thing that Scotty has in the back, and I would say this, is the similarity with Tiger and what Rory definitely does not have in common. It's hard to fathom him just, if he has a shitty front nine, him backing that up with a bad back nine in a tournament like this, where when we watch Rory at the Masters, you're like, he could blow this. Like, it didn't cross my mind that Scotty was going to blow it. Now he opened the door and let someone in. But you're like, he's got a couple par fives. Like, you know, if this was football, he'll make some plays. And what did he do? He made some plays. And then. And then obviously the course is difficult. You know, Rom had to get aggressive and he just kind of melted down and Bryson. That's the thing with Bryson. It's like he's been off, I thought, in the Masters and definitely this week with his iron play, with his approach game, but his wedges are. I mean, he had a couple. He had a flop shot today on 14, that drivable par four where he hits it right up the bunker, and it's way above on the mound. I can't even imagine how difficult that shot is. And he knocked it, like, three or four feet. It's like, Bryson, you have incredible touch around the greens. You're obviously an elite putter now, and I think most would consider you, especially if Rory is going to drive the ball like he did this week, the best driver in the world. What is going on with this. This iron situation? And listen, Scotty took advantage of it, and he wins his third major. And all signs point to him. Now, Oakmont, which many consider, like, the hardest golf course in the world, especially when you factor in major conditions. And if I just tell you out loud, they're going to play the hardest golf course in the world, who are you going to like? You would immediately say Scotty Scheffler. Now, I don't know if he's going to win the US Open by five or six shots, but I think at this point in time, given the way he's played now in his last two events and what he did over the course of the last two days, it would be stunning if he doesn't win this U.S. open, and if he wins the U.S. open. Listen, the British is weird, whether. You never know. It does feel like he's so good that he will inevitably win one. You just kind of. With a guy who knows. I do feel pretty confident at this point in time. Like, you see some of these guys, like, you know, spies, one four, Koepka's one five, Rory's one five. Like. Like, it feels like Scotty's gonna fly right by him. And the only thing that can slow him down is an injury because he's got Ted Scott, who's Bubba. Bubba Watson's old caddy. Their cohesion, like, it's like the equivalent of, like, Belichick and Brady. It's like they were just made for each other. It's perfect. And what a fucking clinic. And honestly, what he did on Saturday afternoon, if you tell me, like, what's been Scotty Scheffler's coolest, like, hour that you remember watching him play golf, it would be Saturday afternoon at Quail Hollow in the PGA Championship. Now, he has. He's only 28 years old, he's got a lot of golf left, but like so far in his career. And listen, he's won the Masters multiple times. But it does feel like that stretch on Saturday afternoon was the equivalent of like a drag race. And he's in like a legit drag racing car and you're in like a Pinto. And he flew by everybody and it gave him that buffer today where when he is just all over the map, but he starts with a bogey this week on one, he's hitting the ball all over the place off the tee. You're like, God, what is going on here? It gave him a little breathing room. And to me, if he doesn't have that breathing room, if he Instead of shooting 65, he shoots 69, and he only has a one shot leader, he's tied, and all of a sudden he's three back. I think that pressure, it just would have been a different situation, right? Given where he would have stood on the leaderboard. But he couldn't have been playing any shittier. Rahm had made multiple birdies and we're tied and he's ahead of me. So I still got the par fives. It was just a different mindset. So I do believe, no matter what anyone says, that this tournament was won on Saturday. But that's what Scottie Scheffler does. When everyone else was not playing well because the course was playing outrageously hard. I mean, this is a place that a lot of times, like, you watch Augusta, you're like, I understand it's hard. I would love to play there. You watch Pinehurst, you're like, listen, I want to play that golf course. Even last week, you're watching Philly Cricket Club, you're like, I would love to tee it up there. Anytime they're playing overseas, you're like this St. Andrews, you name it, right? I would love to do this. As long as it's not too cold and too wet. This is one of those rare courses that they play in a big event where you go, yeah, I got no interest. Does not look fun. I mean, does not look like an enjoyable round of golf. Too long, too much rough. The greens are way too hard. It just looks like miserable golf. And when I tell you it's like miserably hard, difficult conditions, firm greens, not shocking. The Scotty just won by five.
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Some exclusions apply to instant rewards in which rewards are deposited when the transaction posts this content is not investment advice and Trading Crypto involves risk for more details on rates, fees and other Gemini credit card terms, see Rates and Fees. Okay, let's start with the Sirianni extension and do I need to do a mea culpa and apologize and embrace where I've been? As guilty as anyone of just shitting on a guy who now gets a multi year extension, who's a Super bowl champion, who has a record that you could argue through his first four seasons was better than Jim Harbaugh's first four seasons with the 49ers. Sirianni is 48 and 26 and three in the playoffs with a ring. Harbaugh was 44 19. Now granted they're playing more games now, they did back then, but Sirianni's got more wins and obviously the difference in their resumes is one guy has super bowl and the other guy does not. And I had to spend a lot of time thinking about this and listen. Clearly the Eagles players like the guy and the team plays really, really hard for him. But once I saw this headline come out. Now granted when the season ended it was clear like he was in line for an extension. What were they going to do like let him walk? Of course you win a Super bowl, he was going to get some money. Sounds like a multi year deal. It's not like they're making him, you know, the coach for life. This isn't like doesn't quite feel like a Harbaugh or Tomlin situation. But let's face it, he's been good and he got rewarded today. And the reality is most human beings in any field can't Overcome everything aren't just destined for greatness, destined for success. Most people, including myself, including the majority of people listening to this, need a lot of help. Need people to go into business with, to partner with, to work for that know what they're doing. And when I was thinking about the NFL, like Andy Reid's an outlier. Andy Reid went to Philadelphia when they were a joke and a couple years later has them in the NFC Championship, the NFC Championship, the NFC Championship, and they just start winning. Then he goes to Kansas City, who had the number one overall pick. Obviously what he's done there speaks for itself. Peyton Manning is a good example. He could have gone anywhere. Peyton Manning could have played for me, he could have played for you, he could have played for our mothers. It would not have mattered. He was going to be successful. That's not true about Tom Brady. Tom Brady could not have been drafted anywhere and been a success. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten the opportunity. Maybe he wouldn't have gone to a place that fit him scheme wise. Maybe he wouldn't gone to a place that believed in him. Because that's typically what happens sometimes with later round picks. They're just kind of afterthoughts. Instead, he got to go to Bill Belichick and it changed his life. Hell, we just saw it with Brock Purdy. There's a big difference if you're Brock Purdy, that getting drafted to a team that either has an established quarterback or a chaotic situation, then going to Kyle Shanahan. A couple injuries later, you become his franchise quarterback and he's an offensive guy and the team's loaded and it just kind of works. Most human beings need help. Most of us are very dependent on our situation. Hell, I can speak from experience. I really benefit doing what I'm doing, being associated with and working with, for, partnered with, however you want to put it with Colin, it changed my life. The amount of people that you never know about or see behind the scenes working on this podcast is long. From audio video producers to salespeople. We got a lot of people helping me out and I know a lot of you can relate. Like your successes come from working with the right people, being, getting into business with the right people, marrying the right person. It can change your life for the better. And yeah, does Sirianni benefit from working for an owner that basically has unlimited pocketbooks when it comes to investing in his football team? To working for and with a general manager that I would say is widely considered as the best gm, smartest GM in the National Football League? Did he benefit from going to a team that already had guys like Jason Kelsey, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Lane Johnson on the roster? Of course he did. But you could say the same thing for Jim Harbaugh. The team was not winning when he got to San Francisco. Guess what? Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, they were already on the team. They just needed some direction. But he did not turn guys like me and you into players. And I think Sirianni, like the majority of coaches, needed help. And if you put him in the right situation, he can succeed. Look at Mike Tomlin. Once upon a time, when he's hired out of Nowhere in the mid-2000s, however old he was, 33, 34 years old, you think he benefited going to, you could argue the most stable organization in like the history of American sports. Look at John Harbaugh when he got hired in the mid-2000s by the Baltimore Ravens. Guess what he got to inherit? I don't know. Ozzie Newsom, who's a Hall of Fame player and should be a Hall of Fame general manager. He also got got guys like Ed Reed, Halloweenada and Ray freaking Lewis were already on the roster and established elite players. That helps take the Jags job. See how that goes. Most people fail. So when I look at Nick Sirianni, where I got it wrong is I think I overthought it. He's going to a place now that is equipped. You're going to win when you go there. And if you don't have a massive ego and refuse to listen to anyone and think that you've invented football like a coach a couple times ago with the Eagles, you're going to have success. I understand Doug Peterson got run out of town. He also won a fucking Super Bowl. So seeing Nick Sirianni win a Super bowl, have a team that's really good, like good spot. Most coaches would die to coach there. Why? Because the infrastructure there is pretty special. You know, look at Kyle Shanahan, that up until last year, most considered one of the best coaches in the NFL. It was not going well at all through a couple years in San Francisco. And then Belichick got on the horn and said, kyle, we will trade you Jimmy Garoppolo. You interested? Kyle said, what do you mean? He's like, you got 30 minutes. Second round pick, click. Change the course of the 49ers. Hell, even the next year, then he tears ACL, which led to Nick Bosa, meaning they had the number two overall pick. Like it was not all sunshine and rainbows, because that was a place where you needed some help, you needed some luck because there was no infrastructure. It was a joke. And the Eagles clearly are not. And Nick Sirianni has benefited from that. But obviously he brings some to the table. He knows what he's doing, his ability to work with other coaches. Like he's not the coordinator, he's just the motivator. And we give a lot of credit to Mike Tomlin, who never loses, or John Harbaugh or Jim Harbaugh. Like Sirianni's in that world and he's doing a good job. And you go out and I get the Chiefs had some offensive line issues, but you beat the living, you know what out of them in the playoffs. You know you deserve your flowers and obviously you deserve a contract extension. So props to Nick Sirianni. The NBA Finals are almost here and every play could be the one that changes everything. This is the NBA playoffs, where heroes rise, legacies are built, and the action never lets up. With DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA, you don't just watch the madness, you live it back. 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For more details on rates, fees and other Gemini credit card terms, see Rates and Fees. The tush push has survived and the Eagles and Jalen hurts and Nick Sirianni will get in short yard situations in the goal line and they will score touchdowns and they will create first downs. And my overall take on this has been kind of indifferent and I'm typically on, I would say polarizing topics, not usually a fence sitter. But I was unbothered by the play, but also understood if it disappeared tomorrow I wouldn't be faced completely understood why the Eagles would want it. And I understood the old school football guys like Mike Vrabel going, what are we actually talking about? This is a football play and they have a player who is better at this than anyone else. If you have a quarterback who can squat £650, you would do the same thing. We saw Josh Allen, one of the strongest, most athletic players in the NFL and an inability to gain half a yard. And part of it was because unlike Jalen, to go low he had to go high. And so I was I'm cool with this and I do understand the detractors. I get the NFL. I don't get all caught up like Jeffrey Lurie. It's a healthy play. Jason Kelsey, who has kind of gone viral. There was a big ESPN.com article about an impassioned plea, how him and Jerry Jones were watching film and Jerry's like, listen, I don't want to give the Eagles an advantage, but makes a good point. So you know the Jeffrey Lurie and how he break out the big guns, bringing Kelsey to talk about this place that if we could run this 60 times a game, I'd still be playing in the NFL. And listen, the reason this works for the Eagles is they have a dominant offensive line, but most importantly the quarterback. If the quarterback was someone else, it would not be as effective. So Jared Goff or Brock Purdy or Josh Allen or just go around the league. Baker Mayfield. The advantage is the strength of Jalen. And like Vrabel was saying, like, what stops us from doing this and that, like defending the Eagles. And I was like, yeah, I don't care. And some of these, the comments to come out, you know, Jeffrey Lurie, I guess gave like a long diatribe about the health of this play. And if you take this play out, it'll actually make guys less safe even for your teams. And I guess dropped a line about a young child's wet dream with how great this play is. And then Troy Vincent, you know, went full espn. It was like, that's offensive to the women in here. It's like, troy, calm down, buddy. Any person in this room offended by using the words wet dream, like, give me a break. This is this multibillion dollar business. No one's offended by that classic Jeffrey Lurie line. But ultimately this play survives. And I think we're a year away. If the Eagles dominate again and they win, like if the Eagles were winning six, seven games, no one would care. This would not be a talking point. But they've been to two of the last three Super Bowls and they just beat the shit out of the Chiefs. And if they do it again, if they go back to back and beat the crap at everybody, and this play is obviously a huge part of their arsenal because when they get down to the goal line, they are scoring a touchdown. When they get in a short yarded situation, they are moving the chains. It's basically automatic and it will go away. But as of right now, they get to use it another year. And listen, the Eagles are obviously going to be one of the heavy favorites to win the super bowl and be a dominant team and be a playoff team and probably win the division. So it's. This story is not going to go away. But the Eagles and utilizing Jason Kelsey, which Jed York tweeted about, like, I owe the guy a beer. You know, listen, there are certain guys that just can own a room and their passion, their ability to connect and they're just likable. Like certain human beings just resonate with other people because they are just likable people. And Jason has always been one of those guys. Like he could go into a room with anybody. I mean, it's honestly the power of that individual. It's why he. Him and his brother created a podcast with like two years later is worth a hundred million dollars. You could put Jason in a room, you know, at some dive bar in some blue collar town with a bunch of dudes making 30, $40,000 a year and he would get along with them perfectly. You can put them in a room with a bunch of guys that are worth 10 and 11 figures and have teams worth 5 to 10 billion dollars and they can have normal conversations with them. It's just a skill that man possesses. It's why, you know, you typically the guys that communicate in sports, whether it's a point guard, whether it's a quarterback, obviously the center, like, they usually can communicate well with a lot of different people. And Kelsey's ability to go in that room, like, the Eagles aren't dumb, right? They're pretty smart organization, I don't think. I mean, best case scenario, it went as well as it did bringing him in because let's face it, like, and I don't blame it, we're all selfish. I say it all the time, people in. One thing I've talked to Maria a lot about since we've been dating is like, sometimes she gets really caught up when, you know, things in business don't go her way. It's like people are selfish. So when you go into the mindset not trying to fucking the other person, but just realize, like, at the end of the day they will make a decision with themselves, their family first, that's never going to change. And it's never really changed. And I think the Eagles were selfish on this. They don't want to lose the play. I don't blame them. And I bet there were a lot of people in the room who are kind of like, whatever, like, I keep it great, like me and bringing Jason Kelsey in, clearly. I think Florio reported on it. It swung several teams like the Browns, the Lions, like, it's a big deal. I mean, 22 to 10, pretty close. I mean, you're just two votes away from this thing going bye bye. So I do feel pretty confident though, if the Eagles win again, honestly, they don't even need to win the Super Bowl. If they just have a 12 or 13 win season and they're deep in the playoffs, this conversation is not going to stop. And the packers admitted like the NFL used them as a guinea pig. The packers did not care. Again, the packers, like most of us, like, whatever, like, yeah, the play's kind of boring, we know the outcome, but like, it's their advantage. The NFL utilized them to be the at the forefront of like, get rid of this thing and people within the packers like, yeah, it wasn't that big a deal to us. Like, we actually kind of respect it. So the NFL will do that again next year because if this play is the conversation about it you could argue has only gotten bigger. So congrats the Eagles fans. You got a pitch that you can continue to use and it's very, very effective. So I would expect Jalen Hurts and those guys to get some extra touchdowns because of this play because that's what they always do.
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