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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - Christian McCaffrey, 49ers SECURE SNF win vs. Falcons + NFL Week 7 Recap
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So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do? What do we do? That was dumb. People do not follow my example. Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The Volume. What is going on? Everybody just finished watching as Chris Collinsworth called it, a startling game. Because I'm with them, I listen. You have that many injuries, we'll dive into the coaching mismatch McCaffrey. But given how well Bijan had played last week. He just thought this was going to be tough. And the 49ers win by 10 points, 20 to 10. Sunday Night Football. They go to 5 and 2 to hold serve with the Rams, but because they've beat them, they are technically in first place. Same with even if Seattle wins on Monday night, The San Francisco 49ers, who's a star middle linebacker, was up in a box in a cast Bosa, who knows where he is nursing an acl. Kittle's coming back from injury with Mac Jones winning his fourth game as the 49ers starting quarterback in the middle of October. What a performance. So the 49ers get a massive win. We'll dive into that game. Atlanta. Diddy Green once famously say they are who we thought they were. That is very true. The Atlanta Falcons are who we thought they were. Some other craziness today, obviously I go on with Colin after the Sunday game. So we talked a little bit about the Denver. I mean it's one of the most bananas game of all time. Had some time to think about that. A couple other things that just stood out today, from Shane Steichen to Brian Schottenheimer to I think we have a couple eras when it comes to quarterbacks that we can just kind of just unofficially they ended today. And then a couple things with college. Lane Kiffin is kind of the the talk of the town. Will he go to Florida? Who fired their coach today? James Franklin did a hit on college game day. He clearly plans on continue coaching and I'm sure he wants to be in the mix for a job like Florida. So we'll talk a little college before we get out of here. But obviously we got to start with an incredible performance. And you know, in the pros, unlike college, so much of it is about the X's and the O's because in in like just all around the league, most teams are pretty beat up. I don't care where you look, everyone's dealing with injuries. Guys are dropping like flies in the overwhelming majority of matchups. The difference in talent is not that great. But the coaching mismatch in the NFL and you see it on a weekly basis, countless times on Sunday can be so wide and tonight like the reason Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala make a combined 20 to 25 million dollars was for that right there. Kyle Shanahan now has won four games. We're not even to Halloween with Mac Jones. He won four games with Mac Jones. I stand by this. If you win a game as a backup quarterback, you've earned your contract if you've win two. If you win two, you've got. You could argue that you are an underpaid player. What Mac Jones is doing is he's proving like I could be a functional starter. I mean, he had an interception tonight, wasn't his fault, bounced off Juwan Jennings hands. But Kyle Shanahan and Robert Sala doing this with randos all over the place, it just was an incredible accomplishment tonight. Like, listen, I don't think that Raheem Morris and Zach Robinson by any means and Jeff Ulbricht are their equals, but when I just base it on the way they were playing, they were much healthier, at least in theory. They lost some guys during the game that the 49ers are going to be at a disadvantage and somehow they're just not. Because coaching really matters, leadership really matters, culture really matters. And like at the end of the day, the Atlanta Falcons have a lot of talented players, but they're not winners and it's not necessarily their fault. Right. I do think under the right players like the Chiefs, the 49ers, the Rams, the Lions, all the, all these good teams around the NFL like a normal year with the Ravens, the Bills would love a ton of guys on their roster and if you put them on their roster in that culture, they would be winners. But there is just something about that franchise and it was on full display tonight with Kyle Shanahan coming in with his backup quarterback with backups all over his defense and Robert Sala and just going, you know what? Physically we are going to kick your ass. And that's what they did. They just out toughed him, they out physical them and they said, you know what, our best player tonight, we are going to just completely rely on him. And he was fantastic. That's the best McCaffrey game in two years. Obviously he didn't really have a season last year and this season though, he's been productive and the 49ers have leaned on him, you know, to get four wins, especially in the passing game. He hadn't had that type night. And tonight he was simply spectacular. 24 carries for 130 yards, two touchdowns on the ground. He had another seven catches in a huge spot on third and long down in their red zone where a field goal makes a six point game. A touchdown basically ends it. Mack Jones hits him. And that's the thing with, with Christian McCaffrey is he at any moment can just turn into Wes Walker or Julian Edelman. He's One of the greatest Swiss army knives you'll ever see. And does he quite look as fast as he wants to in his prime? I don't know, but he was excellent. And Kyle Shanahan wrote him like secretary tonight, and they needed to. They needed every one of those yards. They needed every one of those touches, and he was simply spectacular. And the difference tonight is the 49ers were going to go. We had 24 carries, seven catches, eight targets. So, I mean, they tried to get him the ball well over 30 times, yet you look at Bijan Robinson, who is also an elite player. I mean, pound for pound, one of the most talented players in the sport. 14 carries and six catches. So 20 total touches. Meanwhile, McCaffrey had over 30. Like, if I'm Raheem Morris and I'm looking at Zach Robinson, how do we not match the amount of touches for our best player as they do their best player? And there was one time tonight on a short yardage play where they went to Kyle, U.S. check. And he got stuffed. And I would imagine Kyle Shanahan immediately regretted it because he got too cute. And this is the type game, like in the NFL, that differs a lot from Saturday. Like, you play in these games. It's like 13 to 10 going into the fourth quarter. I mean, you're going to be determined by a first down here, a field goal there. This is not going back and forth scoring touchdowns on every possession. Every. Every decision matters, every second and five matters, every third and one matters. And there was a spot in this game, fourth and one. There was, like, little under nine minutes to go, and Bijan Robinson wasn't on the field. It was like. And the 49ers, like, backup slot corner Lucas made a great play on Drake London, who's also a really good player. But, like, how could you. Like, what. What are you doing? And this is what we talk about with coaching. The 49ers didn't overthink tonight. They said, get the ball to McCaffrey and let's play defense. We're going to tackle. Well, that was going to be a huge part of clearly, their game plan. We're going to tackle and play really physical. And their defensive line was flying around. Bryce Huff, you know who they got from the Jets? Who, I guess. Well, the. The Eagles got from the jets, who obviously Robert Sala really liked. They had 11 sacks two years ago. You know, the 49ers didn't have to give up much to get them, and I don't know where they would be without that acquisition. Because Bose is hurt. They don't have much edge pressure. And obviously Tatum Bethume, the Florida State linebacker who filled in for Fred Warner tonight, when you talk about culture and when you talk about a standard, you know, Tom and love saying this standard is the standard. And listen, I think people make fun of them because their standard has diminished. But I think part of that doesn't even just mean like winning is the only thing around here. It's like, this is the way we play, right? Win or lose, because it's the NFL. You could have a great season and lose six times, right? And win 11 games. The Chiefs two years ago went to the Super Bowl. They went 11 and six. But this is the standard for if you are going to be a starter on this team, this is the bare minimum is to play your ass off and hit fucking people hard. And you saw the 49ers throw in random guys, young players. They are a team and their culture has started. And this is where I give Kyle a lot of credit. We can disagree with his mindset when it comes to offensive lineman. Not big on drafting them, right? Which, listen, who am I to tell him how to build a football team? I would like him to pivot a little bit on that stance. But one thing I've always appreciated for an offensive guy, his value of defensive players is extremely high. He not only values them highly, the type guys they like. And listen, obviously his general manager is a legendary badass. I mean, one of the hardest hitters in the history of the league, John lynch, they got a pretty good. And you go back to Mike Shanahan, like Mike Shanahan in his heyday in Denver had some very physical defenses. They were an old school hard hitting team. They value those type guys. And when you build teams full of people with high competitive character, physicality is something that they enjoy doing. You know, they got rid of Hunga last year, which I understood, right. I awesome player. You watch him on Denver, he is a. He looks like an all pro. But they had replacements. And you saw tonight Mustafa, who is battling back from a knee injury. They hit people so hard, their linebackers, their safeties, the 2D linemen that they drafted really high, Mikel Williams and Alfred Collins, their corners all hit. And there is a standard on defense. And this, you know, you bring Robert Sala, who they like the most out of all the guys since d'. Ameco. Ryan's right. We saw it with Steve Wilkes, didn't fit in. We saw with the dude last year, didn't fit in. There's Something about the messaging was Salah, but the type of guys haven't changed. Now, there is no replacing Fred Warner over the course of the season. He's one of the best players in the league, but in a situation like tonight, you get him there, he's there on a scooter. They were flying around with their hair on fire and they were crushing people. How many times tonight on outside zone runs did their linebackers fill? And they had guys flying around from every angle. And that's what I thought they weren't going to be able to replace. It's why I was like, listen, I don't like picking against the Niners in a primetime game. Kyle's proven this. But you just miss enough bodies and you get Bijan Robinson. You give him the ball 35 times, going to have 200 yards. Well, it turns out they didn't get the ball 35 times. And even when they did, their linebackers were filling in the hole. Honestly, the only time he kind of got in space were some of those, like, you know, plays where they. They kind of motioned him out and threw him the ball, like, almost like a wheel route. And he scored a touchdown on it. But, like, as a runner, what was his long run of the night? It was. Long run was 8 yards. If you would have told me that Bijan Robinson's long of running the ball would be 8 yards, I wouldn't have believed you. And that's a testament to, you know, listen, Robert, Sal is going to get a lot of credit, but Fred Warner is a constant that has been around this team. Obviously he's injured right now, but just in terms of his messaging and what he means as a vocal leader, like, you talk about a guy that sets the standard, and coaches have been saying this since the beginning of the time. My message only goes so far. I need the players. Like, the reason coaches love players that act like coaches on the field is because they regurgitate their message. And it goes like to, you know, in any situation, right, you work hard for the guy next to you in the trenches, whether it's one of our, you know, whatever industry you're in, whether you're in. In the military, whether you're an athlete, whoever is the boss, is the general, is the coach, even if you respect them to the nth degree and, you know, you revere their messaging, there is something special about being hand in hand with the guy that you're actually doing it with. And I think you saw that tonight with the 49ers. Their guys somehow bonded together. Obviously, Solid messaging, you know, kind of getting together for Fred Warner and what did Kyle Shanahan, they mentioned it tonight on the broadcast. I had read about it this year, or I mean this week, is that they had taken Fred Warner's rookie snaps and showed it to some of the young guys on the team. Like this guy didn't just start out being an All Pro. He didn't just start out being a Hall of Fame guy. He was once an unproven rookie that no one really knew who he was, that he was this hybrid positionless player coming out of byu. Was he going to be a safety, was he going to be a linebacker, inside, outside, where was he going to play? And there was a culture and a mindset of listen, we're going to figure it out, but we're going to figure it out going 100 miles an hour and fucking people up. And that's what the 49ers have done for a long period of time on defense and why they've won a lot of games because when they're really humming, they have elite players doing that. But they have had a lot of injuries over the course of seven, eight years under Kyle Shanahan. It's one of the craziest eras I've ever seen because it's been really successful. Yet the amount of people that go into the blue tent and have their careers altered is borderline unprecedented. It never stops even tonight they lost the center, middle of the game, hamstring out, right? I mean just Ronaldo Green starting corner out. Like they, they play a game, they will lose multiple starters in that game. But the standard of their physicality and when Kyle's on from a play calling standpoint, let's face it, he is a much better play caller. And he became like, you know, one of the, I would say top guys in the league over the course of his career as someone that called runs and his offense hums when the running game is working, they struggle as an offense, whether it's Purdy, whether it's Jimmy G, whether it's Mac Jones, whoever's playing quarterback for him. When they become a pass heavy offense. What you saw to the Atlanta Falcons tonight, how many attempts they have? 38. Michael Penix was 21 of 38. So I mean, what's that? 55%, 54%, not great. Kyle Shannon does not want to play like that tonight. Mac Jones, 17 of 26. So they had, they had 17 or they had 26 pass attempts and 39 rushers. Now five of those, you know, were Mac, I guess One of those was a true run. Some of those were scrambles. So let's say between McCaffrey and Brian Robinson they had 3, 34 carries. They had and use check almost 10 more rushing attempts than pass attempts. That's how he wants to play. And when his guys historically have interviewed with other franchises about, listen, I'm going to be the head coach, these are my philosophies, this is my offensive philosophy. They want to have more rush attempts than pass attempts. It makes it easier for on the quarterback. It's why when we talk about this being a quarterback friendly offense, it's that because we're going to lean on our running back, we're not going to lean on you. And what happens when you are being successful rushing the, rushing the football, you're not in second and nine, you're not in third and 12. Because even if you have Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey in their prime or Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, third nines and third and twelves are really, really difficult. They put you in a, you know, in a dis, you're just at a disadvantage. And tonight they were very, very successful, you know, on early downs and at one point in time I looked, they were excellent on third down. Tonight they were 9 of 15 on third down. Like that's really, really good. At one point in time when Denver didn't have a point, they were well under 30% on third downs. And that's over the course I saw of three of three weeks they were the worst third down offense in the NFL. And if you're doing that, your offense is going to suck. If you're successful on third down, your offense is going to be good. Because who also does that help? That helps your defense, keeps them off the field, lets them rest, lets them be fresher. When they do come in, harder for the other offense to get into a rhythm. And that was a coaching clinic tonight by Shanahan, by Salah, by, by John lynch, the type players they bring in. Because we talked a lot about this with the Miami Dolphins, everyone shitting on TUA over the course of the last couple weeks. Obviously he's not playing well. But for his comments about the players only meeting like you create a culture by the people. You know, we hear this a lot about different cultures with different companies. The culture is not the building, right? It's like the Apple's building or Amazon's headquarters or you name it, it's the people in those buildings, right? Like the culture with San Francisco has been created by Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. It is not on Brock Purdy or Fred Warner to discipline everybody. Obviously if you're a great leader, you help and you are additive to the room and to the message and to like the plight of a given season of the success or failure. But it all starts with the guy at the top of the food chain. And in football it's the coach and obviously the GM and the personnel people of bringing in the right type guys. And one thing the 49ers have done consistently is get the right type guys. And I think at the end of the day, they've always, they've always leaned to the side of being physical because it's hard to not love football and be a physical player. You cannot love football and be a talented player and be a guy that's playing in the NFL and have a good career. But it is hard to be a football junkie and be the type guy that every GM talks about around the combine of the type players they're looking for. And being a guy that has to buckle up his chin strap because he's looking to crack skulls every single play because that's who wants to do that. You got to really be into it. And the 49ers have a lot of guys who are just physicality is really what they hang their hat on. And tonight was an absolute clinic. And listen, one thing I can't get around is somehow the 49ers with all their injuries are 5 and 2 right there with the ramps. And if Seattle wins tomorrow, they're five and two in this division. Honestly, the Arizona Cardinals are not going to end up winning that many games. They've actually been pretty competitive. They're going to be one of those teams that has five wins and they could have easily won like 11 games. But the NFC west is shaping up to be really, really good. It's a well coached league. It's a very physical division. You know the Rams, their front bunch of badasses. McVeigh Elite coach Mike McDonald, I think one of the best defensive coaches in the NFL. I've been saying this forever. If he was an offensive play caller, he would be thought of extremely highly. Think about Mike McDonald compared to Raheem Morris. Like, listen, I every one of the Shanahan guys doesn't like, they love Raheem Morris. I've never met him, but I've never heard a bad word about him. People love the guy. You would love to have him on your staff as a defensive coordinator. Does feel like he's a little over his head as, as the Head coach. Even at the end of the game when it looked like Pennocks and his knees hurt, he's kind of limping around like Cousins is right next to him. He doesn't quite know what to do and it was just kind of bizarre. And it just feels like he never is that confident. And listen, when you are in his shoes, you're going to be a CEO head coach, whoever you hire as your offensive coordinator, you're going to be pretty beholden to their skills. It working or not. And Zach Robinson, like every time that I think, oh, he finally got it last week, I was like really impressive. And then you watch tonight, you're like, what the fuck's going? What's happening here? Where is B John Robinson? How are you not giving him the ball? Like every single play I've even watched it. I mean the 49ers have like DeMarcus Robinson dropping balls in the bread basket. That should be easy, like 40 yard completions. But they shouldn't even have to throw it to him. But the reason they do is Ricky Pierce Hall's knees messed up. Juwan Jennings drops every other ball that gets thrown at him. You got Brandon Iuk whose leg got ripped off last season. I mean their injuries left and right so they're depending on this guy, can't even catch. Meanwhile, you look at the Falcons, you're like Drake London's a badass. Kyle Pitts, we could argue that clearly shouldn't have been drafted as high as he was. But he's definitely really talented. I'll promise you this. When Kyle Pitts ends up on another team next year or in sometime in the future, he will have a very productive season. But you watch him on land and like this isn't working. You got Bijan, who pound for pound is one of the most talented players in the NFL. Moody's comes back, he's flying around, he's getting open all over the place. They scored 10 points. Now my guy Pennix, I don't know, something's off. I can't quite put my finger on it. Collinsworth was showing tonight that how he doesn't really step into the ball. I've always wondered this because Penix really good athlete, right? If him and I think he ran at the combine like a 4, 5, 2. If he just raced Mac Jones, he would beat him running backwards. Yet when you watch Pennix play, he does not play like a good athlete. And when you watch him play in the pocket, he's just very erect. So when you see these guys fall into him, you Think at any moment he's going to get his leg snapped and you start thinking like, I wonder if over the course of his career he's torn a bunch of ACLs because of the way he does not step into throws. He uses hips almost like a golf swing to generate power with his arm and he does throw a beautiful ball. But I've, I've also thought people have always like got almost confused the power of an arm and the. In the beautiful spiral. Like he throws a nice deep ball, but I don't think he has like a super powerful arm like Matt Stafford, Josh Allen. To me, like his arm strength relative to Mac Jones arm strength isn't that different. And if you watch some of his over the middle throws, especially when people around his feet, he leaves a lot really, really short, deep ball throwing. He's very natural at that, like outside the numbers, like Jalen hurts, that thing leaves his hands just beautiful in the air. But some of the drive throws, if there's any sort of, I would just say mess or just action around him, you're like the end result. You're like, what just happened there? How did that. Something's just a little off and it might not be all his fault. I've seen him with good offensive coordinator, be good. I had a lot of friends, like, maybe I'm biased. I gambled on his team. A lot of Washington. I love DeBoer, I'm just a fan. I'm rooting for the guy. But I watch him, I go, I don't know, you know, like, this guy might be part of your problem. And let's face it, they drafted him 8th overall to be a franchise quarterback. And you watch some of these other guys, you go, the physical skills, like, I know a lot of people that did not have first round grades on them. They just thought the physical skills were not there. And he just has a bunch of injuries. He's hurt his shoulder multiple times, he's torn ACLs. You just watch him early on in his career, he's getting the shit kicked out of him. You're like, he feels more when you just watch the way he moves like a 30 year old than someone who's in his second year in the NFL and hasn't even made 17 career starts. So there's just something missing with the Atlanta Falcons. It's a franchise issue as much as a Raheem Morris or a Michael Penix or a Bijan Robinson issue. I mean, this is, this goes back to the Arthur Smith era. There's, there's just something in the building there's a culture, there's a standard that is just hasn't been there in a long time that there's no really way to argue anything else because you watch them, you go, they should be better. They have a bunch of guys. The Niners would take half their starters yesterday without blinking. Yet the 49ers just beat him by 10 points and honestly kind of handled them like physically shoved them around a little bit. What a win. Incredible moment. I mean, Kyle Shanahan, every time that people want to say something bad about him, he just all of a sudden 5 and 2 with a group full of randoms and Mac Jones playing quarterback. I mean, let's face it, they kind of have a disaster on their hands with Brock Purdy in the sense that they give Purdy 200 plus million dollars and they were kind of describing the toe injury. And even Brock says like if you make the wrong move left or right, not even straight on the pain, it can set you back. He's like, I don't even know what to do. It's like day, day to day that could just last months, that there's no guarantee that we see Purdy next week in three weeks. Who knows? This is one of those that is just kind of keep your fingers crossed. Maybe it goes away. And even if it does go away, it kind of did the last time he played and set him back and now he's been out several games since. So they've got like how many teams throw in their backup quarterback and completely melt? And the 49ers bring in Mac Jones and he can not only function like he does a really, really good job, he has been, you know what Daniel Jones is doing with injury. Indianapolis has been amazing, but I give a lot of credit to Shane Steichen. Obviously their offensive weapons are just incredible. Daniel Jones is a more physically gifted player than Mac Jones, but not. If you would have told me that through seven games Mack would have made all these starts, what would happen to the 49ers? I'd be like, they'd be three and four. Best case scenario, especially if you factored in a bunch of injuries, he'd be like, no, John, actually they're five and two and he's like single handedly won them some games, made huge throws on third and long tonight I wouldn't have seen it coming. And it also shows you why. And I think Collins were talked about tonight. They were talking to Mac and he's like, I kind of, it was healthy to kind of get drugged through the mud and go through a lot of shit and hit a lot of adversity, learn a lot about myself. Because if you think about it like Mac led a pretty charm football life. Shirley was a good high school player, goes to Alabama TUA gets hurt, gets inserted a year later, wins the national championship, then gets drafted 15th overall, then goes to the Patriots rookie year, makes the playoffs. It's like kind of riding high and then everything changes and everyone's making fun of him and everyone just thinks he sucks. And I'm probably guilty of that too. Turns out he doesn't turn out. He's pretty good. Not great, you know, not a top 10 player shouldn't probably get drafted in the first round. But he's a legitimate starter and if he's with the right coach and the right organization can more than function can win you games on Sunday night Football against a really good defense, against essentially two defensive coordinators, Raheem Morris, defensive coordinator, Jeff Ulbricht, defensive coordinator, I mean their head coach, defensive guy. And they have a legit defensive coordinator like they are a well run defensive operation. And he's just matriculating the ball with Christian McCaffrey down the field and Kyle Shanahan and looks like a more than functional player. So congrats to him for just not tapping out and just keep on swinging and turn into a good player. So What a win. 5 and 2 San Francisco 49ers. Who would have thought? Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet. 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But the only way you can come back when you are in a situation like the Titans couple weeks ago with the Arizona Cardinals, today with the Denver Broncos against the Giants, it's impossible to just score in your own possessions. You're going to need a free position, which is a turnover. It's the only way to make one of these comebacks. And in the Titans case It was the DeMarcusato fumble at the goal line. They got a free possession out of it instead of a touchdown. And on the Broncos case tonight it was Jackson Dart throwing them a ball, basically hitting their defensive player right in the hands. But I thought there were a couple moments tonight and I'm on the side of like at this point in time, Brian Dayball, who's going to be a polarizing guy. Like it's Pretty clear Mike McDaniel is going to get fired, right? Jonathan Gannon's in major, major trouble. I don't think you can just transition to Jackson Dart and have this success scatter boo the team. Like they have been a pretty capable team since they put Jackson Darton there. Firing Brian Dayball is pretty risky, right? I think we see this over and over the Titans currently. I saw a headline today. They're already starting their coaching search. If you're starting a coaching search in the NFL Before Halloween. I just can't take your organization seriously. You know, during the work week, everyone else is game planning, you know, watching draft picks, watching free. Like everyone in the NFL kind of follows the same schedule. Meanwhile, the Titans president and GM are orchestrating a coaching search like, I just can't take your franchise seriously. So when I look up today and Mike Vrabel is just ruining your organization, just completely clowning them up and down the field, like you kind of brought this upon yourself. I do think the Giants have tried to do it the right way. Their ownership was very clear. Like it was so embarrassing. But we just wanted to give these guys a little more time. And then you let him hand pick the quarterback and then he shows life. Now we can argue the coaching, they got way too pass happy at the end of the game. Just run the ball, kill some clock. Listen, if you're going to fumble on a run, so be it. Shit happens. But do not put it on this young quarterback who obviously threw the bad pick. And then the next series that they're throwing like Jalen hurts to AJ Brown trying to hit these balls down the seam. It's like, what are you doing? Just run the ball. You can nitpick the play calling. Totally agree. But I do think that like I keep them, I, I, they're not going to win many games, but I, I think I would just give them a little bit longer leash, just one more year with the guy. I just think it's pretty risky because all of a sudden you get in this cycle and you become the Titans fast and you almost take one step forward and you're like, oh, Jackson dart Cam. Scatter. Boo. Then all of a sudden you bring in this next coach because what's the coach going to do? You'll see it with the Titans. I want to like Cam Ward. I've been watching his career since he's been at Washington State. Last year was, was awesome to watch. He looks fucking terrible right now. Looks atrocious. Looks like one of the worst players in the NFL. Is it his fault? I don't know. That organization, you got people getting fired, you got new coordinators. It's not like he's absent of blame, but it's hard to know how much falls on his shoulders. But here's what I do know. It's going to be a chaotic this year and probably next year, right? And even when you get the right coach, look at Caleb Williams. I watched Caleb today. I think he looks pretty bad. I don't think he looks, I don't think he looks good at all. Not comfortable in the pocket, always scrambling and running around. But they run the ball well. They play defense. Ben Johnson a good coach right now. Is Brian Dabel a good coach? I don't know. But I do think he's shown enough with this quarterback. He's an offensive guy. I would just give them a little more growth together. And I just think that Sean Payton's very lucky because through three quarters it looked like their offense was completely broken. Like it was just. This is not going to work. You guys went all in for this quarterback. This offense has. I think they had the worst third down percentage over a three game period in the entire league. They were trending the wrong way. They could not. They could not complete passes, they could not get first downs. And then all of a sudden it just flipped. And now you look, they score 33 points. They're 5 and 2. Their defense is obviously really good and. And they have life. And today felt a little Tebowish. If you remember years ago when Tebow came in for Denver, they pulled games out of nowhere. They had no business winning. There was a famous one at Miami. That's what today felt like a little bit. And how sustainable is that? And this is where I think winning sometimes can band aid your issues. Because the Broncos, like didn't fix everything in one quarter. They had like the football gods threw them a bone. But those first three quarters have kind of been a consistent theme. And listen, I would imagine Sean Payton has to be pretty frustrated. You have to wonder like his play calling and the rhythm with Bo Nix, it's completely off. They keep calling these deeper breaking routes that are just simply not working. Bo Nix is not hitting them. It's like, what does Kyle Shanahan call for Mac Jones? Like outbreaking routes like deep outs, deep comebacks or break, you know, routes over the middle stuff he's comfortable with. Yet they keep calling go routes for Bo Nix and he not only doesn't hit them, they're not even close. Feels like he's overthrowing them by five yards. You could have Randy Moss meets Kevin Garnett. I don't even think you get a fingertip on the ball. So I think the Broncos, and I'm someone that has a lot of exposure on them to win the division. Clearly the Chiefs are playing better right now. They just got to figure out some sort of consistent offense if they want any shot to compete in the afc. Because one offense that has figured it out, I think by far start to finish. He's been the best offensive coordinator in the NFL this year. Shane Steichen, what he has done is just remarkable. And he was so fired up today watching him on the sideline. Jonathan Taylor, pound for pounds, one of the best players in the league right now. Just a dominant force. And it kind of makes me sad, you know, Wisconsin guy, their programs in shambles, kind of the last of a. One of that last generation of good Wisconsin players till they've kind of gone through this downturn. But whatever's happened to him, remember we're not that far removed from him being mad about money a couple years ago that might have even been last year to what he's doing right now. Like he is. He's a dominant force. He is if it two years ago is McCaffrey last year goes. Last year it was Saquon and this year it feels like it's him. Like I'm the best running back in the league right now. And what Shane, the rhythm and how good he is at getting Daniel Jones on the move. Like one of Daniel Jones strengths is his athleticism. So. And he's not like some power thrower. Like he actually has pretty good touch. And there are plays today, some play action plays getting him on the move. Some dump offs. They get Tyler Warren in space all the time. They had a great play in the red zone. Like a play action little dump off to Pittman for a touchdown. His play calling is just spectacular. Now they pick Herbert off a couple times but they were scoring at will today. And the Colts, I don't know how good their defense is relative to like can they be a true afc. Like win the afc. Their, their offense right now though is. And you win enough games like you control like you get that thing in the dome. They have multiple receivers, they got a stud tight end, they got an elite back and they got a quarterback who's very, very confident. The other offensive coordinator that. Listen everyone shit on this guy. Every single person. Brian Schottenheimer is going to be one and done. Brian Schottenheimer doesn't deserve the job. Jerry Jones has lost it. I probably said half those things. Brian Schottenheimer this year as an offensive coordinator has been dominant. What he has done to lose. I. I told this to coward. To have Micah Parsons traded a couple days before week one is not easy if you are Andy Reid or Pete Carroll or Sean McVeigh, let alone a first time head coach. And not only did he handle that well, he's also taking in George Pickens who is at least it felt like one of the great wild card Person, Mike. Tom's like, I, I, I'm out. I, I can't do this. I'll go. I'd rather give DK Metcalf $150 million, which is kind of crazy, and just get rid of George Pickens, who's basically free right now. And Jerry's like, here, here, here you go, Brian. No problem. He's going to have 80 catches this year and 10 touchdowns and just dominant play after dominant play after dominant play. And then CD Comes back. Ferguson, how well Dax playing? They look, they look like the Rams. You just like, watch the Rams play. It's like, touchdown, first down, first down, chunk play. That's how the Cowboys look now. Their defense stinks, and that limits their ceiling of probably being a wild card team. But they, they have been a revelation this year because on the flip side, like, Washington looks terrible. Obviously, Jaden's injured again. Defensively, they can't stop a soul. Offensively, they got a bunch of injuries. They look like the magic from 2024 is, you know, I almost ran out of gas the other day. It was one of those, like, I was on empty. It was like a Tuesday, and I didn't drive that much on a Wednesday. And then I realized I had to do some stuff on a Thursday. And then all of a sudden, like, I'm below empty. And that, that's what it feels like right now with the commanders. Like, they're below empty. They got nothing. You know, they're like a pitcher in the eighth inning who, who, you know, starts off throwing about 93 and by the sixth or seventh is throwing about 85. Tim Lincecombe used to be like this toward the end of his career. It's like all of a sudden his fastball is going, like, 82 years old. It's like, skip, we gotta go the pen here. And I don't know what the commanders are supposed to do. Players are their players. They look, they look really bad. Something's just really, really off. Two things, I think we can unofficially say the TUA and the Kyler Murray eras are over. TUA got benched. I wasn't super locked into that game. But that whole thing is just, obviously, he's had an awful season. The franchise is falling apart. I don't really know what you do because his contract is still pretty big. It's not like you could trade him. You wouldn't think maybe you could eat some of the money. Maybe a team could use him as a bridge. I'd say the same thing for Kyler Murray. You know, the Difference for tua. And Kyler is the backup comes in who everyone likes Jacoby Brissette, from Bill Parcells to the, to the cafeteria guy at every organization he's ever played for. Jacoby Brissette is probably one of the more consistently respected guys in the NFL. Never thought he was that good of a player. And I'm watching him come in for the Cardinals and not only look good, like they're. They're a well run operation when he's playing quarterback for them. And they have looked way better these last two weeks with him playing offense, same with Marvin Harrison than when Kyler's plate. And I just think like they're 2 and 5. Cardinals are headed nowhere. Obviously the Dolphins just got ransacked by the Cleveland Browns. It's just over. And this is a good example of. I understand, like, when you have a quarterback, you need to invest in them, but if you're not super confident in your quarterback, why would you pay them? Like, just play it out. I don't think we do that enough. Just play it out for every. Dak Prescott's like, well, we played Dak Prescott out and we had to pay him a lot of money. Okay, but like, would you have given Kyler this huge contract? Did you need to do it after year three? And the answer, of course, is no. Same thing with tua. Like, who are you bidding against at the time? I never quite understand this. And I think two teams that were burned so bad were the Cardinals and the Dolphins. And they find themselves in this situation where they have this quarterback albatross. You know, I wouldn't be shocked at all if, like, they just kind of ride with Jacoby, because that's what I would do. Watching them play, they feel like a much more efficient operation when Berset is in there than when Kyler, who can make spectacular plays, but there's no cohesion, snap to snap. One play could be 50 yards, the next three plays could be, you know, negative 10. And to us, just who just wants to watch him play at this point in time? Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu every single episode. 32 lost nuclear weapons weapons you're like, wait, stop. What? Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads. Yes. It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh wow, Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here. What was that like for you to soft launch into the show? Sorry Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today. I forgot whose podcast we were doing. Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's, let's, let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up everybody? This is snacks from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long. Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill. Me and Tony bringing Backfire team on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats. Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always gotta die first. The Umbral reliquary invites any and all fool brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take kid. All sales are final. Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special. And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October, we're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Trap Nurse podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. The rich Russians falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad Oligarch Season 2 Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks, the window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very, very weird. Listen to Sad oliGarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. The Internet is something we make, not just something that happens to us. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the Tech and Culture podcast. There are no girls on the Internet. There are no girls on The Internet is not just about tech. It's about culture and policy and art and expression and how we as humans exist and fit with one another. In our new season, I'm talking to people like Anil Dash, an OG entrepreneur and writer who refuses to be cynical about the Internet. I love tech. You know, I've been a nerd my whole life. But it does have to be for something. 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Do I have to if the Tennessee job? Well, it's like you have a president who's a football guy and you have a GM who's a football guy, and you have an impulsive owner. So, like, who am I answering to and how much you paying me? Because you paid your last coach $3 million and he had to deal with all this bullshit and he got fired. So if I'm even interested in the Tennessee job and I have any sort of leverage, I'm going to need a lot of money to even entertain you, right? And I think in football, it's very easy to see hierarchies like, who am I answering to? Who's in charge in college? That's not the case. When you hire all these top college coaches, they're the boss. Ryan Day, the GM at Ohio State, works for him. The GM at Oregon works for Dan Lanning. The GM at Notre Dame works for Marcus Freeman. The GM at Texas works for Cirque. Now, you got to deal with some boosters and provost and some. But like, you're the boss of your football team. There is not a player on the team that you don't sign off on. Right? And historically it was clear some jobs are better than others. There's not a time in the history of the sport when Penn State was viewed as an equal to Indiana, let alone not a vastly superior job and location to work as a head coach. Yet Kurt Signetti basically just said, not only am I not interested, I'll take eleven and a half million dollars to stay at Indiana because the world's changed nil revenue. It's just, it's different than it was five, six years ago where obviously the top programs, a lot of them are still going to be the top programs. But like it wasn't difficult for Alabama to give someone $30,000. It's a big difference to give five guys. What game was I watching a couple weeks ago where the coach said that the opposing coach said that they had seven or eight players making over a million dollars. So it's like before, yeah, people got brown bags and some, some free car leases. Now it's like they also need the car lease to go on top of the million dollars that you have to pay them. And that's just your linebacker, your quarterback, Carson Beck, who just threw four interceptions, is making millions upon millions of dollars. And hell, the shitty quarterback for North Carolina, the little lefties making 1.5. This is going rate whether we agree or not. And Florida just fired Billy Napier. And all signs. There was a CBS report that the AD at Florida has already done a lot of research on Lane Kiffin, who has clearly changed the narrative and just the way we view him as a human being. He is one of the most likable guys in college football. You know, a lot of people say, I've cleaned up my act. He looks sober, right? Some people like claim they're sober might be lying. Like Lane Kiffin looks sober, looks really healthy, lost a ton of weight, obviously does hot yoga seven days a week. Is just got a vibrant feel to him that when I scouted, when I went, I went through usc, when he was there, he was like angry and grouchy. He was not this big personality. He actually talked to nobody. I would say he was pretty miserable back then. The guy you see now that honestly had Georgia on the ropes a couple days ago is a completely different human being. And there have been a lot of question marks over the last couple years with off the field stuff with Lane Kiffin. He wanted to interview for Oregon and wanted that job. The year Dan Lanning got it, they wouldn't even entertain him. They would not entertain him. Alabama was open when Nick Saban retired. They didn't call Lane Kiffin. He had worked there for three years. Nick Saban and him pretend to be friends. They were never going to hire Lane Kiffin. They went to Kalyn DeBoer, that was from the Dakotas, who was working at Washington and Fresno State. Lane Kiffin had been in the building, knew the, knew the Nick Saban blueprint. And look at Lane. He has taken Ole Miss and turned them into a power. He's fucking competing with the Division 2 quarterback at Ole Miss. But I don't know job. Like, I know Ohio State's better than every job. I know Texas is better because the amount of money, the recruits, the whole thing. But then we get into like, is Florida great job anymore? In theory, yeah, they're in the state with a bunch of recruits. But like, we've been watching them for a long time now. Not winning. They've had a bunch of nil. It's not really working. So we're going to find out that. Do you need to leave? Like, is there a big difference between Ole Miss and Florida? A lot of people would say yes, there is. And historically 100%. But in 2025, I don't know. Right. I know this. There is a big difference working for the Green Bay packers and the Tennessee Titans. There is a major difference working for the Kansas City Chiefs and the Arizona Cardinals. There are well run organizations, there are well run ownerships. They, there are well run just franchises in terms of their resources and the way they think about the business. And then they're the shitty ones. And we see it all the time. It's why the same teams draft high every single year. One college football. Now it's like Texas, I'm watching the ASU Texas Tech game. The announcers, like, Texas tech is paying $28 million for their roster. So it's like if you have big nil and collectives in revenue, that's a good job. Historically, Texas Tech would be one of the worst jobs in Texas. Texas be better. Texas A and M would be better. Could argue SMU and TCU were better. Well, if they're going to give you 28 to 30 million dollars a year to spend on players, you could argue that job is every bit as good as the other jobs, you know, And I think we're about to find out. My guess would be Lane Kiffin will be the next head coach of Florida. But I wouldn't bet a lot on it because he's winning and having more success at Ole Miss. And one thing he's talked about is being around family. His life has changed. So we're going to find out. And if Penn State and Florida can't get guys to leave, maybe we need to rethink and relook at the way we've always kind of put the hierarchy of jobs. These, you know, I'm not just talking Ohio State and Texas. I'm Talking the next 15 jobs, maybe. Actually, it's much more open ended and there's 40 jobs that are all kind of in the same ballpark. Have a great night. See you later. The Volume. This is an I Heart podcast.