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Katie Couric
The latest episode of Next Question with Me. Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years and today, today he even throws a few questions my way.
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Bernie Sanders
All right, are you ready for another question?
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John Middlekauff
Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.
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Katie Couric
We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Kyle McLaughlin
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Bernie Sanders
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Molly Lambert
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John Middlekauff
What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Just watch the Arizona Cardinals led by Jacoby Brissette who Wally Pipp, Kyler Murray dominate the Cowboys. So big win for the Cardinals. Cowboys look terrible. Jerry Jones and Stephen a. Smith. The YouTube TV debacle. Your boy had to scramble last minute, but I was able to get on my wife's Hulu account. Then I had to upgrade it. But we'll talk about that as well as, you know, Howie Roseman, John Schneider, some GMs are cooking right now, and we got got the trade deadline. As well as a mailbag at John Middlekopf is the Instagram handle. Make sure you fire in those DMs. We'll have a long mailbag on today, as well as a couple more coming out this week. And yeah, you guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen. If you listen on Collins feed, subscribe to the YouTube channel. Never miss a thing. Coming live after every game. 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A tweet from several days ago from our main man Shefty, who says Jacoby's going to start, Kyler will be available for some plays. And then it comes out today, Kyler's in street clothes, so he's not available. And then Jacoby goes out 21 of 31, couple touchdowns, well over 200 yards. And it's just objectively a better quarterback right now than Kyler Murray. But sometimes, and this, you know, the cat's out of the bag. We used to like what. What's he alluding to? These broadcasters talk to the coaches. It's why it's such a big deal on Tom Brady not having direct access, though. It's very easy. All these guys, the offensive coordinators, the defensive coordinators, the head coaches want to talk to him so he can get information and obviously the players, too. But when Troy Aikman opened up the broadcast and said, you know, the offensive coordinator says that he. He feels really comfortable with Jacoby being able to go under center, something he likes doing, AKA something Kyler does not like doing and doesn't fit in this office. This is why I have been a proponent of higher or keeping Brian Dabel, because anytime it comes to taking a job, you becoming a Head coach in the NFL or in college football. College football is a little different because you're constantly turning over your roster. But when Jonathan Gannon got the job, I bet all he said is like, can't wait to coach Kyler. Can't wait to coach Kyler. I'll do whatever it takes to coach Kyler. His offensive coordinator saying the same things. They've had enough. And I don't blame them for saying that, and I don't blame them for trying to figure this out with Kyler. Murray, this experiment hasn't worked because one thing's pretty evident. And listen, the Cowboys roster isn't that great, but relative to the Cardinals, there's a big gap between the two. If you just remove the quarterbacks because typically Dak is a better player than Kyler, but if Jacoby is going to play a DAX level or like tonight, outplay him. So if you just go the quarterbacks cancel each other out or anything advantage for the Cardinals, they're better everywhere else. I mean, comparing defensive lines tonight, not even close. Sweat was all over Dak all night long. Walter Nolan made his debut, probably going to be a pretty good player. Obviously, Calais Campbell, legendary guy, was making plays at the end of the game. They got Collins, the former standup linebacker, who they've kind of put much more on the line and is now. He had awesome pass rush tonight. Obviously guys like Buddha Baker, Trey McBride, who has come alive whenever you draft a player high, right? And I remember a buddy in the NFL told me when I was like, who do you think Monty is going to draft? Is he going to take Marvin or is he going to take Malik Neighbors because they were taking a wide receiver. And he's like, this was a couple months before the draft, so probably near right around free agency. So the combine had already taken place. He's like, he's 100% taking Marvin Harrison because it's the safer pick. A lot of people thought if you went throughout the NFL, Malik Neighbors, from a talent standpoint, explosion standpoint, his ceilings higher than Marvin. But there were some risks there, right? He's just was a little bit more of a wild card. And he. The guy that described it to me was like, Monty's not coloring outside the lines here. He's going to try to hit a double. But when you try to hit a double, there's no such thing in the NFL. So through the first, like, year, it's like, what is going on? I saw a headline today of Marvin Harrison Senior talking a bunch of crap about the offense. Well, maybe it's not the offense. Maybe it was the quarterback, which Kyler and Marvin clearly have no rapport. Jacoby comes in, Trey McBride still looks fantastic, but who starts eating? Marvin Harrison. Career night. 20 catches. No, seven. This is whatever. He's been in the league a year and a half. His career high for catches is seven. And that happened tonight with Jacoby Brissette. So the Kyler Murray experiment to me is over. I don't know if it'll be a hard or soft benching, but I think as long as Jacoby Brissette is healthy, he will continue to start for the Arizona Cardinals. And I saw a lot of people, you know, I, by the time you're listening to this, he's not going to get traded. No one's trading for that contract. I don't even think anyone has the cap space. But even this offseason, and I'm no capologist, I'd have to get Roseman or one of those type guys on the phone to even begin to understand how this truly all works. Like cap hits, how they translate when they're traded, the dead cap, acceleration, all that stuff. I don't pretend to be an expert, but I do know his numbers are really large. And I also know that his production is not very large anymore. And let's face it, one thing that's evident tonight, it's easy for Jacoby to see. And I think, and listen, Kyler is an exceptional athlete, an exceptional talent. I mean, huge arm, can throw bombs, has a strong arm, but accuracy and just overall ability to see from within the pocket is difficult when you're 5 foot 9 and you watch tonight and Jacoby is just a big guy sitting there, can see everything, and then obviously he's delivering the ball pretty well. So when you look at the two guys, if you put Kyler Murray's physical traits in Jacoby, you probably have, you know, top five player, but that's not how it works. But I do know this. When you're coaching for your job and there's desperation, you're going to go with what's working. This guy's already been paid the money and it hasn't worked out. But I also think when you look ahead to the off season, I believe it's more likely that Kyler Murray would be cut this off season than someone would facilitate a trade given his cap number. Because to me, Kyler Murray's like a 15, $20 million quarterback, not a guy making the type money he's making. If he was cut tomorrow and was a free agent or or, you know, a free agent going into March 15th. What type contract would he get? My guess would be a one year deal. So I think especially like this type stuff is not good for your market, is not good for your branding of being this very, very talented player. Being talented, that type lingo works. When you're Caleb Williams in year two, it's like, yeah, I got to figure out this talent and become a good player. It's much harder when you've been in the NFL for as long as Kyler has. So I think, listen, we all operate at different speeds. Not everyone is Andrew Luck ready to go from the jump, but we've had long enough to know. I've watched enough football to go. Jacoby just Wally pipped him. So don't ever expect to see Kyler at least in the near future. I don't know how they will propaganda, you know, throw out their angle and spin to this. Because listen, you're sensitive. You don't want to look like you're crushing. Players like coaches and GMs in 2025 are very sensitive to that. And I understand and I think they tried to almost like a, a trial balloon, they had Schefter throw it out there. It's like then he backed it up now, now it's over. But like I said, I don't think this was an upset tonight. I look, if the Cardinals are going to get good quarterback play, they're better than Dallas. They're winning this game in Dallas, in Arizona, on a neutral field like seven or eight times out of 10. They are much more talented. Stuckey and I have been talking about this. They're three or four plays away from having a completely reversed record. They easily could be five and two eat or five and three or six and two, right? They have been in all these games and tonight was the first time that they controlled it from the jump beside the Titans game, which they blew. But they didn't blow this thing because ultimately Dallas wasn't that good. And listen, I think we have to acknowledge one, the NFC east is in shambles, right? You got the Philadelphia Eagles who are just making trades every day and are going to win 12 to 14 games and win this division by potentially five or six games. I mean, is there a chance that another team in the NFC east doesn't get to eight wins, right? To me, Dallas best case is eight. But you watch tonight, all of a sudden that defense, like they're an injury away, it could be 6 and 11 because your offense is just going to dominate every game and Their defense is horrendous. The commanders are done. Put a fork in them and obviously the Giants have been done. So there's a chance that the second best record in this division is 7 and 10, maybe a 4 win team and maybe a 6 win team. So the Eagles no longer even need to think about Washington or Dallas, don't even need to, like, part of their consciousness. They are completely focused now on Rams, Seattle, 49ers, obviously the NFC north teams, and the Buccaneers. That's all that matters. Now their division is completely irrelevant, which is crazy. I mean, it's November 3rd. It's one thing if this middle of December, it's November 3rd. And I think Dallas, honestly, nothing summed up the Cowboys more than the beginning of this game. I will dive into the YouTube TV situation here in a second, but once I figured out how to get the game on my television, I'm probably 30 minutes before kickoff and Jerry is just strutting around, taking selfies with people, just yucking it up. I mean, I respect that. As someone who can be pretty introverted and want no part of just talking to people, it feels like Jerry is in that mode 24 7, 365. You know, it's pretty easy to see why Jerry is such a good salesman. Like, this guy's in his mid-80s, like, has unlimited money and the juice he gets when he walks like that stage is his. Which is also a problem, right? Because it's one thing. Listen, if your owner's got a big ego, you know, Dr. Bush used to bang chicks with the players in the training room. Like, owners do crazy stuff. I got no issue with Jerry trying to be the center of attention. He just also happens to be the general manager, right? So it's like that'd be like the equivalent of Les need or Howie Rosemond or Brian Gudekins or John Lynch. Like, Jerry's acting like an actor slash owner, but he also is the guy running the football operation, which is kind of crazy. And then they show the clip of him sitting with Stephen A. Which is hilarious because it comes right as Ferguson fumbles and. And Jerry's like, you know, just crestfallen. And it looks like Stephen A's biting his lip, trying not to laugh in the suite. It's like, not. This is the Cowboys, that environment. We hear this a lot with these college jobs. Like a lot of chefs in those kitchens, man got a lot of hands in the cookie jar. You got a lot of people with a lot of voices. A lot of dudes sitting on these committees with A lot of opinions. It's like, it's hard to win in those situations, right? It's the best one to streamline. Like Kirby, smart deals with the ad, the president. That's it. Nick Saban dealt with nobody. You know, Howie Roseman streamlined, right, to write to Jeffrey Lurie. Right? You got. You got Jerry. Like, all these players know that, like, their coaching staff, like, how much juice do they actually have? And I think the answer is, like, not that much. They really like Brian Schottenheimer. Do I really need to listen to him? And I think that can be difficult. And you just kind of got the shit show in Dallas. You got Jerry making a comment before the game of, like, I have a trade ready to go in my back pocket. Who talks like that? Well, Jerry does. You know, that's. Jerry's just talking like, he talks. And most people that are the GM are hesitant to say certain things because at the end of the day, they're not signing the checks that they don't own the buildings. They could get fired at any moment. And they don't want to piss people off in their industry, their owner, their team. They're just very, very cautious. There's no caution with Jerry. It's why he's such a great sound bite. It's why everyone runs right to him and listen, it's not. Dak didn't play that well tonight. The receivers felt like they were lollygagging it every other route. Obviously, the fumbles, the turnovers, the offensive line was getting just worked. It felt like every night, one of the. Or every single snap, one of those different, you know, Tyler's on their offensive line was getting spun like a dreidel, and one of the dudes in red was all over Dak. Obviously, defensively, they don't have much, if anything, I mean, it's. It's pretty embarrassing if they don't hit on a blitz. Someone's getting open and someone's getting open fast. So my expectations on Dallas, if their offense isn't humming, is they're going to lose every game they're going to lose. If you tell me that the Dallas Cowboys score points in the teens, it's an automatic loss. It'd be like, hey, the Cincinnati Bengals score 25 points. I'd be like, automatic loss. They lose 100% of the games, and that's the Cowboys. But I just think there's so much going on. It's where like, one thing is sometimes on Dax out routes, like, this is in a dome, there's no wind. There's no inclement weather. It's not cold. It's not like, you know, you're blowing on your fingertips to warm them up. The weather's ideal. Like you control the climate with the air conditioning and as balls and some of the deep out routes would kind of float. It's like, you know, you see some of the limitations with Dax Army. It's a little floaty. I think There was 1/4 down that had a play broken up by CD Lamb and Troy kind of came to the defense of Dak. He's like, you know, something. Something made him hesitant, almost like CD didn't come out of the route with any urgency. It's like, okay, I. There's probably some truth to that. But also the ball just hung up in the air for an extra couple seconds that it just wouldn't with the guys with higher end arm strength. I mean, Jacoby Brissette has a better army than Dak Prescott Kyler Murray could throw with his eyes closed backwards and get more velocity on. So sometimes that limitation is why, like, why is Dak thrown some huge interceptions in some big games he throws if the ball's not accurate? Like his ball's easier to catch than Josh Allens. Right. It just, it just is. But I would not recommend Jerry does any trades. If anything, trade players away for more picks and look for the next couple years because this team is going nowhere and it's going nowhere fast. So congrats to the Cardinals. Big win for Jacoby and congrats on the starting gig that I'm unofficially anointing you as the as the starter the rest of the season. Last but not least, on this game, I have not followed the details of this story at all simply because I do not care. I'm not going to get into the weeds about Disney and Google, whatever they're arguing about. Right. Obviously, both have a lot of juice. I'm probably more. I don't do that much with Disney besides consume the games that they have. Obviously that'll change. As I have a child, I'm sure we'll watch more Disney content. I'm more of a Google guy, gmail, very loyal YouTube TV guy. But I don't want to overthink this. And I've always defended some of these networks, like NBC for example. NBC is not going to be around if Peacock doesn't work. All these people need streamers. So it makes us bad when it's like, hey, you gotta get Amazon prime if you want to watch the NBA. It's like, yeah, do you not have Amazon Prime? Like, do you not have Amazon? Because if you don't, I probably don't have much in common with you if you don't have Amazon prime, unless you live out in rural bfe. But like, most people I know in my life have access to Amazon Prime. But tonight I thought, this is the first time where I went, I listen, I. I'm not sticking up for one side or the other, but just get the fucking job done. Because I, I had no choice, like, I have to do this for work. And I'm kind of freaking out because over the weekend I was able to watch the college games because I have ESPN plus, which I'm a loyal subscriber of, because they have a bunch of golf content. I can watch golf tournaments throughout the year on Thursday and Friday at my desk in the background on ESPN plus. So that's just why I have it. And I was able to watch Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas and Vanderbilt through that. Well, then I went to it tonight and it was like, not working. I'm like, I don't think I'm going to be able to watch Monday Night Football on ESPN plus. So what are my options? Well, Hulu, and my wife loves Hulu because they have a million shows of people getting murdered. I'm like, maria, are we sure it's healthy to watch all these shows about serial killers and murderers? She can't watch a show about, like, you know, Saving Private Ryan or whatever. She's like, turn it off. Like, Marie, you just watch someone decapitate seven people and spread their heads throughout three different states. And you can't watch, you know, biopic on World War II, but it's crazy. Women love these serial killer shows. Not for me. I don't want to see these psychopaths. But my point is, I knew we had Hulu, so I was like, okay, they have. But we didn't have the right subscription, so we had to go sign in. We had to upgrade the subscription. It's like, this is kind of ridiculous. And the only thing that can make or create any type urgency in these type situations is sports. Because nothing else is going to drive us to, like, whatever. Like, no one's missing any shows. But as Monday Night Football and some of these big college football games, it would be a problem, you know, And I'm not traveling this year because of the baby, but if I was at my mom's house, like, I don't even know what we would do. So I. It was the first time where I went, this just sucks. And this is the type thing that I cut cable years ago because clearly there were better options than other things. But there is no disputing once upon a time. Even if some people were kind of getting rat on the cable bundle because they didn't watch sports and they were subsidizing people like us watching these games, it was a lot easier as a viewing experience. We all got whatever the local company was, we all got all the channels. There weren't ever disputes in the games unless a hurricane or a tornado or something that knocked the power out. If your power was on you just had cable TV and you would just get the channels. And obviously those days are long gone and we are never going back. And I'm not a proponent of like I wish we could reverse here. I'm all forward moving forward, especially with technology. But in situations like this that went I kind of Ms. 2012. Just an easier time to be alive when it came to watching Monday Night Football. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. We talk a lot of football in three and out, but there's always something to bet on. The NBA's in full swing, college hoops literally started Monday and even the NHL is heating up. So if you haven't tried your first bet yet, just download the Hard Rock Bet app and there's still time for you to get 150 in bonus bets. 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Katie Couric
The latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people across the quarter of his age.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search next question with Katie Couric and listen now.
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Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
Jenna World. Jenna Jamison, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi the Heidi Fly Story, and I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films.
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Molly Lambert
We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our Life.
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Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined stardom, then left it all behind.
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Molly Lambert
I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man.
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Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Genaworld on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast podcasts.
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Eva Longoria
I'm Eva Longoria.
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Maite Gomez-Rejon
And I'm Maite Gomez Jacon.
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Eva Longoria
And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things, food and history.
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Maite Gomez-Rejon
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostracon to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
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Eva Longoria
No way.
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Maite Gomez-Rejon
Bring back the ostracon.
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Eva Longoria
And because we've got a very mi casa es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
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John Middlekauff
Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golfo de Mexico. No, the America. No the America. El Golfo de Mexico continuado a si. Forever and ever.
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Eva Longoria
It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education.
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Maite Gomez-Rejon
Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife.
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Eva Longoria
Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Robyn Dixon
You know the shade is always shadiest right here.
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Gisele Bryant
Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is.
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Robyn Dixon
Here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle.
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Gisele Bryant
And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday. I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says my neighbor is a Karen.
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John Middlekauff
No way.
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Gisele Bryant
I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know you are lying. Humongous, y'.
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Bernie Sanders
All.
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Robyn Dixon
They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Middlekauff
I do want to dive into one guy that is just zoned in right now and that would be Howie Roseman. This guy, there's just no one like him in the NFL. I tried to figure out how many trades he has made this calendar year, but he had made so many different transactions I couldn't even keep track of. But just to give you an example of Howie Roseman in 2025, he just traded today for Jalen Phillips. Gave up a third rounder, the pass rusher from from Miami that Fangio had worked with a couple years ago and I think he had like six and a half or seven sacks that year. Obviously Vick would would be on board with it. But the Eagles need pass rush. They just convinced Brandon Graham to come out of retirement. They trade for him. How he treats football like GMs treat baseball teams right? Most GMs in the NFL do not operate this way now. Is it because their coaches aren't huge Believers in constant change. Is it because they don't have the cojones? Is it because their owner limits their ability to trade assets? I don't know. But Howie, who has more juice than any other GM in the entire NFL, is constantly trading and upgrading his team. And if you're a fan, you can't ask for anything more. They signed in in March this year during free agency. A couple days after the start, they signed a tight end, Harrison Bryant. In August, they trade Bryant to the Houston Texans for John Mechi. Earlier last week, they traded Metchi for Carter, the DB from the jets that Joe Douglas once drafted. On top of trading for Jair Alexander all last week. And then today they trade for Jalen Phillips. He is just constantly making moves. It is never tolerated. Like, we're good. They do not think like that. How can we upgrade? What do we have to do? And they're just coming off a Super Bowl. It would be easy to be like, oh, it might not be our year. We're already paying a lot of money. Let's just see what happens. And this gets back to the expectation and the standard that's set by the owner because he's the one that greenlights all of this. So when you see a lot of these other teams unwilling to ever do anything or not making moves when they should, it's an organizational philosophy and how he has been empowered. And here's the other thing, how he doesn't have to. He has to work with the coaches, staff, right? Obviously, like Nick and the coordinators, but at the end of the day, he's the boss when it comes to the roster. That is not the case for most of these teams. Like John lynch. Just can't do that, right. Les need just can't do that. Especially in the middle of the season if their coaches say no, I'm not really feeling that it's not going to happen. Even if it would be the right move because personnel people aren't as emotional about stuff. They're actually not as close. Even though. Especially when you work in the office. You're there on the daily, daily grind. You're there early, they're staying late at practice in the cafeteria with everybody. You're just. You're helping, working hand in hand with everybody during the season. But there is, because you're not on a daily basis in the meeting rooms. There is almost a detachment from the players that can be healthy and help you see the big picture where it's hard. If you're a position coach, your relationship with an individual is just Different. And sometimes they can be too close to the sun to go, yeah, we should probably cut this guy or this guy isn't good enough. This is not going to work out. Because that is always being asked in Philadelphia. And think about this. When you watch Jerry Jones today, roaming around that sideline 20 minutes before the game, taking selfies, hanging out with Stephen A. Smith. That's their Howie Roseman. So how is Jerry Jones, who's a great businessman and I'm sure if you want, you know, to strike oil and get some of those. Those things in the ground and have one of those bad boys hits, you would want Jerry to be the guy. But if I'm building a football team, if I'm making moves, I mean, we've talked about this for the last couple years with Jerry. It's like Jerry, remember a couple years ago, he's like, we're just. We're going to make a big move. And then nothing happened. So he's competing against Howie Roseman. That's his competition. Like there it's. Think of the advantage Jeffrey Lurie has. He's not doing any of that yet. That Jerry has to sign off on everything because he's the general manager and he's adamant. I'm never giving that up. Think of the disadvantage the Cowboys are at that ever since Jeffrey Lurie has inserted Howie into full power once he kick Chip Kelly to the curb. They've been to three Super Bowls, one, two of them, and have a team that's going to be right back in the mix in 20, 25 and definitely beyond, because that's how they operate. And the Cowboys just never quite know what to do. A couple years ago, they're giving CD and Dak unlimited money. This year they trade Micah Parsons. And I'm not against any of these moves. In a vacuum, I think they gave Dak a little too much money. But regardless, I just don't think they view the team building, prospect or process and just the philosophical belief and the ability to adapt and always be changing. The Eagles have such a big advantage. Such a big advantage. I see it right now. Fifteen years ago, the San Francisco Giants were about to rattle off three out of five World Series. And 15 years later, they don't have a snowball's chance in hell because they're fucking with the Dodgers. I love Buster Posey. He's one of my favorite players ever. How is he supposed to compete with Andrew Friedman in that bankroll hint? He can't. It's not a fair fight. Just like the Cowboys versus the Eagles in 2027. Dash present. It's just not a fair fight. It starts with Howie. Speaking of another guy, that's just pretty dialed. I was thinking about this today actually, before, before we dive into John Schneider, I do need to tell you really quick about my friends because listen, do you want to go to one of these games? I've actually never been to a Seahawks game. I did go to University of Washington game years ago, they were renovating the stadium. But if you want to go to one of these NFL games, my friends, my partners, game time, they got you covered. So if you want to get a pair of tickets, you can get into a NFL game for as cheap as $100. And the amount that you see when you're searching, just whoever you want to see. Your Chiefs fan, a Bills fan, a Ravens fan, a Seahawks fan, a Rams fan, Rams Niners this week. Do you want to go to Levi's Stadium? Been to a lot of games there. You type it in. Whatever the price is that you see on the app, just download that Game Time app. That is the price you will pay. 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And you know how he gets a lot of credit and rightfully so. You could argue that John Schneider's not just willingness but ability to move Russell Wilson changed the course of their franchise forever because they not only got multiple picks back, and I mean through those picks, they got starting tackle, they got Witherspoon, who's a stud, they got Boy Maffe, who actually I, I was reading might get traded tomorrow to then use to get a bigger Trade. I could see them sniffing around on Max Crosby to be honest with you. But I just think John Schneider's trade of Russell Wilson is, might be as important and we'll see. I guess drafting Russell Wilson helped them win a Super bowl, so they'd have to win a Super Bowl. So that's that personnel move as is as important as any John's ever made. But you could say the move of trading him because typically when you're in those situations like you kind of go down with the ship with a guy like that and they weren't just able to pivot off him because Russell Wilson is a worse player than guys that we constantly, you know, rip on their contract and their status like Tua and Kyler. He can't hold those guys. Jock. He traded him for two first round picks. But it's not just the first round picks, it's the clearing up of the cap space. So then several years later you look, you had much more money to deal with. They were able to sign guys like Sam Donald, extend guys like Leonard Williams. That move was a catalyst for the Seattle team we're seeing now. And I think sometimes, and that's a good example of you got to make bold moves. And when he made that trade, we didn't know Russell was bad yet. I thought that was the type move that was going to get everyone fired. And it did. It just turned out it was everyone in Denver, some except the GM who somehow survived and is now Sean Payne's right hand man. But every, every other coaching staff member of the coaching staff got canned. So I just, I don't think we spend enough time talking and thinking about the moment that John Schneider traded Russell Wilson because it just changed the course of their franchise and they went with Geno Smith and now they have Sam Darnold who is just one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. So I just think Seattle, this Seattle and Rams thing, I mean if Seattle, Seattle plays Arizona this week, who obviously is coming off a road Monday night game. So they're going to get back, I mean they probably won't land at Arizona till 3 or 4 in the morning. And the Rams are a favorite, are favored against the 49ers in Levi's. Obviously the 49ers lost another guy today, so I think we're going to learn a lot. And I think Eagles, Packers, I haven't even looked at the schedule yet but I think Eagles packers this week so. Or maybe that's next week but keep an eye on that. I'm getting ahead of myself here. Other than that, we did have Tucker Kraft towards acl, which is a massive blow for the Green Bay Packers. That's one of those that's like, I don't know if you overcome now. I think when you look around the league, a lot of guys have gotten hurt, but that one, that's a crippling loss. And I get a lot of dms obviously for the mailbag and packers have a lot of fans. It does feel like there's some momentum and some negativity surrounding lafleur with the Green Bay game or excuse me, the, the Browns game and the Carolina game. Those are type games. You lose that if you get bounced in the first round can cost you your job. And there's been a lot of pressure on Matt LaFleur. Even the new president, Carmen Policy son Ed talked about it like, listen, this is a, this is a big year for these guys, right? They're in. This is when you would get your contract extended at the end of this year. So once you make that move for Micah Parsons, the pressure is on. And games like that are ones that lose you a lot of equity and lose you a lot of equity fast. The 49ers drafted Mikel Williams from Georgia. Just this massive defensive lineman. He's probably ideally like a pass rushing interior defensive lineman. He's not a great edge rusher, but he's just, he's a beast. He's like six five, 290, 80 pounds, long arms. He should be a really high end starter in the NFL. I don't know if he's ever going to be like an elite player, but you watch guys like Buckner and Armstead and Calais Campbell, like he's that type, hybrid body type. That should just be an impact. He was a five star blue chipper towards ACL today or I guess yesterday and the 49ers kind of knew it. Kyle kind of alluded to it yesterday. I just don't think we've ever seen anything like this. You know, the amount of injuries. I mean, Purdy, Kyle admitted not only is it a turf toe, which we've already known, but it's not only not improving. Like he's not good to go. And this is not something that's ever going to get better. I mean there's a chance we just. Brock purdy, they gave $180 million guaranteed and is going to start two games for the season. That's, that's on the table. You know, George Kittle missed a huge chunk of the game or the season after game one all their offensive linemen are banged up and defensively, I mean, Bose's tore his acl, Michael Williams tore his acl, Fred Warner's ankle shattered. It's like, I just don't. I think it's borderline insane. They're six and three. It does feel like a little house of cards. And they're in a really, really tough spot this weekend against the ramps. And that's why you know this trade deadline, which if you're listening to this on in the afternoon, it's probably already passed. I think you have to be very honest with yourself, right? How good you are because there are always going to be trades. Like if you are willing to give up a high enough pick, you can pull off a lot of players in the NFL, right? But if you give a second round pick and then all of a sudden you miss that seven seed and that pick is pick 17, well now that's a pretty high second round pick. You know, the Washington Commanders are a good example. I commended Adam Peters for doing this because there weren't a lot of good players in free agency and he didn't want to use his free agency money, which he had a lot of, to overpay guys because that's what you have to do in free agency. So he used draft capital to buy guys that were already under contract. Debo Samuel, $15 million. Fifth round pick, Laramie Tunzel. Yet my starting left tackle, I give up a third in 2025. He gave up a second in 2026, which obviously you got to pay a lot for starting left tackle who's a good player and a pick in a year. Like if I trade you a 2026 second round pick in February of 2025, that pick is valued less because it's a year away. So on the value chart it's typically around lower right. Like if I give you a third round pick in a couple years, I don't view that as the same as a third round pick. Now it's like time, value, money. The problem for Washington is if you win four or five games, which is clearly on the table after some of their injuries and obviously Jaden being out for, who knows, maybe the rest of the season, that pick could be like pick 37. And at the time when you pull those off, you just pray you're not in those situations, but sometimes you are. It's like when they traded for Matt Stafford and had to give up some first round picks and then a year later they had a bunch of injuries and that pick was a top 10 pick. And the Detroit Lions were able to use that to get guys like Jameer Gibbs and Sam LaPorta. Right. Sometimes when it, when you get a high pick as Seattle and that team sucks like the Denver Broncos, you get Devin Witherspoon at pick five. So it's the same with like giving up a second round pick. Well, if you suck, that second round pick, instead of being pick 50, is now pick 36. And Google some of the guys that go in the 30s. Sometimes it's hall of Famers, you get high end starters there. So it's really, really risky. And I think a lot of people go back and forth. And that's where I think, Howie, once you've won a couple Super Bowls, you know, Belichick got to the point where it's like he didn't care. He just did it for a long time. When he had Brady, most stuff kind of worked and if it didn't work, whatever, we just pivoted. How he's kind of in that mold too. It's like the equity speaks for itself. Just won the Super Bowl. Won one in 2017. We went to another one a couple years ago. Like, I've proven I know what I'm doing. It's football. These are human beings. I'm going to miss on some, but we're going to make full speed fucking decisions. Some people throughout the league, like, don't have the equity to just give up a second and third round pick because if it does blow up in their face, then their ass is on the chop, you know, chopping block. How he's not thinking about like a job security doesn't even cross his mind when he's just making me just literally doing whatever it takes to try to help the team become better. That's what Bill did for two decades. And that enables you to actually operate from a position of strength because if you have conviction, you're like, yeah, I'll pay for that. We need this. Where I think it's easier for other people to talk yourself out of, it's like, well, I might need that second round pick and if this blows up in my face, I'm gonna look like an idiot and the fans will be on me. And who knows, maybe I won't get a contract extension in two years. So I think one thing's gonna be fascinating is like, does any player go for a second round pick? Because if we get a guy of that level, that, that would be pretty eye opening, I would guess. No, you know, Jalen Phillips for a third round pick feels right about the line. Every once in a while though, you get like, Christian McCaffrey's been traded for a second, a third and a fourth round pick, right? If tomorrow someone's traded for Jalen Waddle, they gave up a second round pick. Which I think sometimes with wide receivers you're like, well, we would like him, he's under contract. But couldn't I find a guy in the draft in the second round who can do that for way cheaper? And I think these are the conversations you're constantly having with yourself, trying to balance the future and now, because I'll tell you this, the head coach, the coordinators, your star players, all they care about is the next couple of months. They don't give a shit about the draft. There's not. Most of these coaches haven't watched a snap of college football. Not a snap, because on Saturday mornings they're either traveling with the team, you know, and you're just not really watching much, right? You're traveling, you're in an airplane, you get down, you have some meetings, you eat, you go to bed, and if you're at home, you do some walkthroughs in the morning, you go home, you spend time with your family because you haven't seen them literally all week. So they got no clue. They don't know Ty Simpson from Bart Simpson, but your front office does. And that's where their influence and their juice can help these guys. Like, hey, this is a loaded class at wide receiver. And, you know, if this administration, we're not going anywhere. I think we can hold off on that. And that's where you have to have a good communication and a good rapport with the guy you work with, because sometimes you got to talk them off the ledge. Like, I really need this guy. It's like, I don't know if that's the best idea. I don't know if that's the best idea. And you never know. I mean, that's part of, you know, doing deals is some work out and some are just a major flop and absolutely disastrous when you factor in compensation, production, everything combined. But I think we're really going to see in the Next, you know, 12 hours at least from recording this, it's 10, 15 a night. You know, who thinks they're really good? And I think a lot of teams will get cold feet because it's so wide open right now. Can I tell you about my friends at Bubs Natural? I've been taking a scoop of this every day for the last couple weeks. And getting old isn't that fun. You know, your skin gets thinner, your body aches more after workouts. It's tough and that's why you need to do everything possible to work against that. 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Katie Couric
The latest episode of Next Question with me. Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent years 334 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea? JD Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, wait, wait. I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
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Robyn Dixon
Always shadiest right here.
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Gisele Bryant
Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is.
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Robyn Dixon
Here, dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle.
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Gisele Bryant
And, you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house.
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Katie Couric
Okay.
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Gisele Bryant
The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen.
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John Middlekauff
No way.
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Gisele Bryant
I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know.
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Robyn Dixon
You are lying.
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Gisele Bryant
Humongous, y'.
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Robyn Dixon
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Eva Longoria
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Eva Longoria
And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things. Food and history.
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Maite Gomez-Rejon
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Eva Longoria
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Maite Gomez-Rejon
Bring back the Osterkhan.
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Eva Longoria
And because we've got a very mi casa esucasa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
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John Middlekauff
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Eva Longoria
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Maite Gomez-Rejon
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Eva Longoria
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Molly Lambert
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Molly Lambert
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John Middlekauff
Okay, let's do a little Middle Coff Mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMs. Questions answered here on the show. Again at John Middle cough Fire in the DMS questions on the show. We'll start with Cal. After the Pats grinded out a win by one point against Atlanta, the Patriots posted their classic player interview to YouTube shortly after the game where they spoke to Pop Douglas Diggs, chasing Mac Hollins and more. Guys, these post game interviews have been the most revealing piece of evidence for Mike Vrabel to be coach of the Year. You watch these guys talk about each other and the team and they truly like one another and love coming to work under Vrabel. Couple that with the team being the opposite under Mayo and the end of the Belichick era and I think he has a compelling case. It's really amazing how talented Vrabel is and how he can pull this off so fast. So is Vrabel the coach of the year leader in the clubhouse? Well, I do think he inherited a complete, you know what? Right. They have been really bad now for several years. And from Belichick those last couple years to Mayo and the dysfunction last year, pretty embarrassing for a franchise that was a dynasty for 20 years. So it's not like he was. Well, there were some positives. No, there was a lot of negatives. He narrated a couple players right in. Christian Gonzalez, obviously the quarterback, but a lot of it was new coaching staff. Tear this thing down to the studs, add a bunch of dudes in free agency in the draft and try to kickstart this thing on the go. Schedule was a joke. It's why anyone that follows football, you went, you know, this team should win nine, 10 games. Now if they win the division and win 13 or 14, then I have no problem voting for I will say what he's done is remarkable. I would say what Shane Steichen has done with Daniel Jones is pretty eye opening. Say what? Ben Johnson turning that joke of a franchise into a team that's probably going to have an over.500 record is pretty impressive. And listen, when I say joke of a franchise, I don't I'm talking about like the ownership and the consistent chaos that happens with the Bears. Kyle Shanahan if he wins 10, 11 games with a roster full of practice squad guys. So I think there's going to be a lot of guys in the mix. November and December typically determine who wins that, but if you want to vote for him, I'm on board. Why do people hate the Eagles fan so much? No bias, but we're easily a top three fan base in the league and we're not two or three passionate, loyal, and we actually know ball. Yet it feels like everyone outside of Philly loves to pile on us. The funny part is when the Eagles are bad or do something stupid, the number one haters for the Eagles are their own fans. We hold our own team more accountable than anyone. Do you think other fan bases are just jealous of how invested we are? I don't know. I think you guys definitely get a bad rap. I mean, having lived there for a couple years, I still have close friends in the organization and people that still live there that don't work for the team. I. Yeah, I mean I, I think you have an SEC level passion. It's a, it's a big sports city and the Eagles are King Kong. I mean and you guys, obviously, you know, the Phillies have been really good. The Sixers have disappointed a lot. I don't fall hockey enough to know about the Flyers, but yeah, I don't know. I mean I guess it's. You're not supposed to boo when something's going wrong. It's like they just, they're booing. It's week two, they just won the Super Bowl. It's like, yeah, we just had 10 yards of offense. We supposed to cheer. What are we supposed to do? I think it's back to throwing snowballs at Santa Claus. I think cheering Michael Irvin. But it's like I'm not a huge proponent in, you know, believer in like spending all my time in holding on to something that happened 30 years ago. So guys, 20, 25 and they've had a lot of success. That place rocks. I think you guys get a bad rap. You're intense. So, so are a lot of places. Like if you went to Alabama, lsu, Ohio State, Green Bay, Pittsburgh. These are intense environments. You know, they like football a lot. Down by 31 points with 7 minutes left in the fourth quarter. It seems insane to keep your franchise quarterback in the game. Yet that's exactly what the commanders did leading to Jaden Daniels horrendous injury. It also seems like most teams have their starters and even quarterbacks out in almost these impossible to overcome game situations. Is there a reason why many coaches opt to keep valuable players in lose lose scenarios? That's a good question. I would say football and I mentioned this on Sunday night when I recorded the Podcast football does not parallel basketball or baseball. In basketball, when you're down 40, you just don't put your starters back in the game. In baseball, if a guy's getting shelled, you yank them. In football, you kind of ride it out, and the only way that you could be on the field is going full go. There's no tanking, there's no going through the motions, and you're going to get injured sometimes. So it's like, I think it's easy to pile on, but no one comes out in that situation. You look around the league and all these blowouts guys are in late. If that doesn't happen to Jaden, does Sam Darwin come out of the game? So I didn't have a problem with him being in the game, because people are always in the game. In football, there's not. You don't even have enough offensive linemen to pull out your entire unit. You only dress five wide receivers. So guys just have to play. All these other positions have to play. I think it's easy to say, and I'm not saying you're saying this, but it's like, play your backups. Well. There's not even enough backups to yank all the starters out of the game. So I. And it's like, well, the backup would go, especially if I'm a backup D tackle or backup tight end. Why play half the snaps anyway? So you need me against the good teams as well. You need. You need me in the tight games as well. So I think it's pretty complicated. It's just the nature of the sport. Football is a lot different than, you know, it's much more like hockey in the sense of, like, if you're out there, it's just. It kind of is what it is. You know, you got to be pretty dialed. And you could argue, like, why are we calling these plays? Right. That put him in compromise situations. And I think Clifford go. Those are his plays. So, I mean, that's a big part of his game. I would say, hey, could we have been smarter of just calling some, like, quick passes than anything that would keep the ball in his hands? Probably, but, you know, I'm nitpicking. Didn't bother me. Not the injury bothered me. That sucks. But it didn't bother me that he was in the game. I mean, that's just. Welcome to the NFL. My question is this. Was Jordan Love anointed too early? He is good. He was. He had eight good games two years ago, and since then has been very up and down, losing to the Browns and Panthers the same year while he plays terribly is not a great look. What are your thoughts on how legit he actually is? I understand Pittsburgh was struggling just a week ago, but he shredded them. What do you throw? 350 yards, multiple touchdowns and just dominated them. I mean, it felt like for a second it's like, God, is he going to end the Tomlin era Unofficially now they saved it against Daniel Jones who was having an incredible season and they made look terrible. So it's like, well, their defense actually has some players because I just saw them against Daniel Jones, absolutely punk them. And I saw Jordan Love shred them in the second half. So, you know, there's one thing. It's like Caleb has a lot of talent, right? Bo Nix has a lot of talent. It's like, can they do it consistently? That's a different question than, you know, Jordan Love. I've seen him play huge games against big time opponents, playoffs included. So you know it's there because it's literally happening games. It's not even a projection. But last game's a good example. I mean everyone freaked out about the pass on 4th and 7 or whatever when he threw it across his body. That should have been picked. Even if the guy picks it because he was jumping, I think the wide receiver tackles them. So it wouldn't have been a pick six. But anytime you go for it in these fourth down situations, there is no throw it away, right? There is no live to fight another down. This is the down. So I haven't heard the explanation from LaFleur on his thoughts on that decision. But like you kind of got to force feed something that's part of going for it. On anything that's not going to be a run on fourth down and anything fourth and five and longer that you're going to put in your quarterback's hands, like he's got to throw it up there and I'm not defending him by any means on the pass. But like what's he supposed to do, just dirt it? Throw it out of bounds? Now if it was a pick six, that'd be a different problem. Something you are dead wrong about. You don't become a man when your dad dies, but rather when you first get that helpless newborn baby in your arms. Beside the grace of God, there is no greater blessing. So congrats in prayers for a healthy baby and delivery. I appreciate that question given the great Matt Walden has commented here on all the garbage narratives about Caleb Williams and also given Walden Waldman is one of the great scouts currently Alive. Will you please search your soul and ask yourself how much of your comments about Caleb boil down to the fact that that you just don't like the guy. You know, it's funny, you're very emotionally invested. I appreciate the kind words on the baby as well. But you're very emotionally invested on the Bears. I'm not. There is zero emotion one way or the other. If they won the super bowl, that'd be awesome. If they never won a game, it wouldn't impact me at all. I truly do not care. And all I've said about Caleb is like, the way that he plays is not sustainable to be a good player. It's why like there's. I also hate oftentimes the word narrative. There's no narrative with Caleb. We just watch him play and go, yeah, we were expecting more. He was the number one overall pick. I was told he was one of the great prospects of all time. Stafford, Luck, Peyton. I'm watching a guy that is in the teens. When he's good, he's 12, 13. When he's bad, he's closer to like 19 or 20. And like yesterday at points he was atrocious. And other points he hit guys that were open. But it's like, if you think I'm going to throw the guy a parade after you beat Cincinnati, just like after you beat Dallas, it's just not going to happen. It's like I put zero stock in Bo Nick sliding up Dallas. I'm recording this part before Monday night, but like, you don't get credit. Slicing and dicing one of the worst defenses we've ever seen. But like he made some big time plays. He had the big play with his feet. The star of this team is the coach. So to me, if you're emotionally invested in the Bears, you should be like, we nailed this coach. So whether Caleb works or not, who cares? We will figure it out with Ben Johnson and to me that's all that matters. If he works out, great. But my style of quarterback either is not a guy that typically, once he sees a read, starts just scrambling around and that's kind of how he plays, which I don't really like, you know, so he's not my style of quarterback. But if he becomes a star, cool, we'll talk about it. If he doesn't, he doesn't. But everyone's the quote unquote. Narratives are just people watching him play and people like you, they get so offended when people like he's. They're not nice enough. He was the number one overall pick. So the standard is really high. Told he was the greatest prospect in recent memory. A more physically gifted guy even than Trevor Lawrence, who obviously everyone shits on. Who isn't good enough for a guy being the number one overall pick. Got $200 million for another guy's team, right? He varies on a given week. He's the 13th best quarterback, sometimes he's the 18th. That's kind of the world he lives in. When you're taking number one overall, I'm expecting a high end starter. Just not the case now. Caleb's in the second year, Trevor's however many years in, so there's still room for growth. But I stand by what I say. I will be surprised if this marriage works long term. That doesn't mean you can't have an unreal year. Win 10 games and Ben Johnson can be in the mix for coach of the year. That should be the headline. Not like people aren't being nice enough to Caleb. I don't know. Just stop scrambling around and making some of these dumb plays. If the packers go one and done in the playoffs or miss the playoffs, is LaFleur fired after the end of this year? I think Goot is safe. Team solidified, solidly built, can't even read. But lafleur's lack of consistency has been concerning. Not being able to beat teams like the Browns and Panthers is unacceptable. Totally agree. You got to win those games. I'd even say the tie versus Dallas is a pretty bad letdown. You know, I, I would have said 2 weeks ago just it was like, God, these guys are going to win 13 games and the extension is inevitable. Then you see basically part due of the Browns game. And listen, the Browns have like an elite defense, you know, to be able to score 13 total points against the Panthers. That one's tough to get out. Coached by Dave Canales. It's like, come on, Matt, you want a huge extension. And based on this previous success, we got to see more here, buddy. I have them as one of my teams to win the division. They're part of a big parlay that's kind of on life support a little bit. But I just think that there's a lot of pressure on him. There's a lot of pressure. I said this last night. On Sunday, you can't come out and say like Thanksgiving or Halloween. Stupid. I hate it. I'm focused on winning a football game and then lose the Panthers. Like that's, Come on, bro. Either lighten up or if you're going to be serious, dominate Thursday night. Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. This week, it's an old school rivalry as the Las Vegas Raiders collide with the Denver Broncos. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with football's best party, TNF. Tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member, not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Raiders and Broncos Thursday at 7pm Eastern, only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details on.
- [73:47]
Katie Couric
The latest episode of Next Question with me. Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
- [74:10]
Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
- [74:21]
Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, wait. I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
- [74:38]
Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
- [74:45]
Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app search next question with Katie Couric. And listen now.
- [74:51]
Robyn Dixon
You know the shade is always shadiest right here.
- [74:55]
Gisele Bryant
Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryan and Robyn Dixon is.
- [74:59]
Robyn Dixon
Here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs to drama and reality news you can handle.
- [75:10]
Gisele Bryant
And you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says my neighbor is a Karen.
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John Middlekauff
No way.
- [75:34]
Gisele Bryant
I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know.
- [75:40]
Robyn Dixon
You are lying.
- [75:42]
Gisele Bryant
Humongous, y'.
- [75:43]
John Middlekauff
All.
- [75:43]
Robyn Dixon
They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [75:55]
Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
Jenna World, Jenna Jamison, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi the Heidi Fly Story, and I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films.
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Molly Lambert
We get paid more than the men we call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our Life.
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Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined star stardom, then left it all behind.
- [76:29]
Molly Lambert
I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man.
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Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Gentleworld on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [76:54]
Eva Longoria
I'm Eva Longoria.
- [76:55]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
And I'm Maite Gomez Jacon.
- [76:57]
Eva Longoria
And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things. Food and history.
- [77:03]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostracon to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
- [77:16]
Eva Longoria
No way.
- [77:18]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
Bring back the ostricon.
- [77:19]
Eva Longoria
And because we've got a very mi casa es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
- [77:26]
John Middlekauff
Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golf of Mexico. No, the America. No, the American El Golfo de Mexico continuing forever and ever.
- [77:39]
Eva Longoria
It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education rights.
- [77:48]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife.
- [77:54]
Eva Longoria
Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [78:11]
John Middlekauff
How do we know that Will Howard is in the future in Pittsburgh? Have you heard anything? Mike Tomlin or Arthur Smith have not texted me any updates on Will Howard. I would say anytime that you're a late round pick, you're not viewed as the future. I would say that is just a rule of thumb. So if you're drafting the fifth, sixth, seventh round, and is Will Howard hurt, maybe that was Riley Leonard. I get those two guys mixed up a little bit. But when you're drafted in the sixth or seventh round, no one in the organization views you as the future. Doesn't mean if you get your opportunity, you. You can't run with it. We've seen guys Purdy, Tom Brady, right? I mean, Tony Romo, undrafted free agent, but no one views you as the future. No one in the league, obviously. Anyone with the Steelers. Do you think Arch is going to be Check down Charlie. He had some good passes yesterday but I can't help but think he's just a dude. I got to give Arch some credit. I thought he was exceptional against Vanderbilt. Now I'm not exactly breaking down personnel for Vandy's defense so I'm not going to act like they're the best defense since you know, Kirby smarts team three years ago or some of Saban's teams. Clearly they're not but he annihilated them and Vandy was the favorite coming into that game. A lot of pressure. Arch has played well recently in some kind of weird games against lesser opponents, but that was easily just me watching. As a fan of football, if he had looked like that throughout the season, I think we would be discussing him a lot differently. And you know one thing's going to come up and people in the media and fans is like he's just a first year starter. Give him time. Those days are done. You're getting paid $7 million. The expectations are really high. This goes back to Caleb. If Caleb was a third round pick we would discuss them differently than the number one overall pick in a draft with a bunch of other quarterbacks with Jaden Daniels, Drake May, I mean Bo Nix is going to be a starter on a playoff team back to back years. So it's just, you're just held to a different standard, fair or not. And you could argue it's not fair but as what's his name said, that's what the money's for. So no one cares about your problems. The faster you realize that in life I think the easier it is to go. It's like people just don't care about your problems. It's like, yeah, I know. So I don't expect them to. I actually saw Mike McDaniel say that because they asked him about what he thought about the GM getting fired and you know, what's his emotional and he's like, obviously all this stuff takes an emotional toll on you but no one in this building, especially anyone working for me, gives a shit. No one cares. It's completely irrelevant. So you just put your head down and keep moving. It's like, yeah, it's kind of the way life works. A question for the bag. How legit are the Panthers? Seems like we are dependent on one player, can only win one type way. But after beating the Cowboys and now the Packers, I wanted your opinion. I just assumed you guys were pretty bad on defense but every time I looked up yesterday you guys were holding them in the red zone creating Turnovers, just doing fun shit. I'd be lying if I was super dialed in when, like you were on offense to have some bold take on Bryce. I saw the stat line. He threw for like 100 yards. At one point in time. I was moving around volume on some of the four boxes. The TV they were on was not on. I don't even put volume on the. If you make the smaller tv, I put the main games on the big TV yesterday. That was like, you know, Pittsburgh, Indy, the Pats. Actually it was Chicago, Cincy, the Pats game, Indie Pit and Lions and Detroit I thought were pretty impactful games. And the Niners, Giants are kind of rotated between those five. And then put a couple random games on the right hand tv, which included. Because I assumed the packers were going to win. If you told me at the beginning of the day what the final score would have been, I would have been like 31 to 17 or something. 31 to 13. So every time you looked up, you just expected them to kind of hit the gas and throttle them. But Panthers are feisty. There's no disputing that. I. The red zone came on and I had the volume on. I might have misheard this, but Dowdle has more rushing yards. Could been all purpose yards, but pretty sure rushing yards over the last month than any player in the league. Which kind of makes sense. I mean, he's, he's had some massive games. McMillan's obviously been really, really good for you guys. And listen, it does just feel like Carolina's just settled down a little bit and they feel a lot quieter, a lot less noisy. You know, I think they've benefited, obviously. The Saints are going through a huge transition and the Atlanta dysfunction benefits them a lot. And when you suck that bad for a couple years, you truly get to fly under the radar. And you're five and four, like you're in the wild card mix. There's no dispute in that. If you just hover around 500 till the middle of December, there's not that big a difference between going 8, 9 and going 10 and 7. I mean, you honestly could be talking three or four plays in the course of a couple games. Obviously it's a fumble recovery here or dropped interception there. Block kick happening because it's the NFL. You play in a lot of games that are 13 to 16. I would be pretty bullish on Dan Morgan and Canales. I think they're just doing a solid job. There's no disputing that. And they're kind of like, Bryce has limitations. But you could always draft a quarterback this year too. Dolphins fan just got finished watching your reaction to the Dolphins Ravens and agree they have experienced and agree that an experienced defensive coach is perfect. If you were the gm, would you value experience or defense more? If it came down to it, would you go after Mike McCarthy or Chris Shula for the Rams this offseason? Thanks a lot. I think your organization needs more like a crazy hard ass, you know, like whoever a younger version of this guy is. And listen, I. I mean I think he's like 63, 64, but like five, 10 years ago. Like a guy like Rex Ryan. I'm trying to think of some other like defensive guys. It happens a lot in college, you know, like Kirby Smart, obviously Saban, I mean he's an outlier, but just like a hard ass throwback defensive coach who's kind of no nonsense and discipline. I mean essentially Rabel up in New England, whoever Vrabel is, which is obviously hard to find, but some version of that, that is what Miami needs. It's not even about offense or defense. It's just kind of about a badass. You know, the Eagles once upon a time, like Andy was pretty like no nonsense early on in Philadelphia, right. And honestly it's kind of his philosophy. There's not much like bullshitting when it comes to football. Like you're late, we got problems. You don't practice hard, we got problems. You're not taking meetings seriously. We got problems like you can be an offensive guy. Like you can't fuck around with the 49ers, right? You're going to have problems. Same thing with McVeigh. They have pretty high standards for what is tolerated and what is not tolerated. And clearly with Mike feels like people are just walking all over him. And that's a problem. That's why lean defense. But you can get. I think LaFleur is kind of a tight ass, which you could argue backfire sometimes, but I think you kind of need something like that. Great content. My question is this Buffalo looking inconsistent up until they dominated the Chiefs. How much of that is the Bills turning themselves into the anti Chiefs and is transferable to the rest of the league? I just think there are certain things in life people really get up for. I mean really get up for. I see it with, you know, Maria and some of her friends. Some people like live to throw parties. Whether that's baby showers, whether that's hosting dinners. Like that's like the fuel. It gets them going. No different than we all know, you know, you know, like my Mother in law or my mom or, you know, whoever. Older people in your family that live for some of the holiday festivities because they get their family around, they get to see their kids. It's a really, really, it's like their super bowl, you know, Thanksgiving or Christmas, just like the Masters or the actual super bowl is my Super Bowl. And then there are just opponents that you don't need a rah rah speech. If you're Sean McDermott the week you're playing the Chiefs, you don't need to tell guys to get focused up and restart stuff at practice. Like I bet if you ask Kirby Smart like you got a coach hard the weeks that you're playing Alabama or Texas or the SEC championship game, he'd say no. The opponent does that itself. You think Ohio State has to like fire up the guys when they're going to play Oregon, Indiana or Michigan? Of course not. Where you earn your money is when you're playing, you know, the Falcons on Monday night, you're like, yeah, the Falcons. I'm not taking it that seriously. You don't have a great week of practice. Why? Because we're human beings. So whether you're a coach or whether you're a player, there's just a different level of focus with more on the line. If you say, hey John, we have an advertiser, one guy is willing to give you $10,000, the other guy's willing to give you $5 million. Do you think I would approach both the same? How could you? It would be impossible. So I think the level in which. And listen, they have played the Chiefs really well in the playoffs as well. They match up well against them. Josh plays well against them. The Chiefs are not their issue. Obviously they have been in the playoffs because they haven't beaten them. Like you watch them play. The reason they haven't gotten the number one seed over the last couple of years is because of other opponents. You know, it's because blowing game like they did to the Patriots earlier this year, Atlanta, I mean Atlanta is probably a seven win team, six win team. If that's the difference between you getting the one seed and not. That's killer, man. That, that really is so. I don't know if there's much to say beside like, yeah, they just, they get up for them and they match up well. They just feel comfortable playing them. A lot of people are uncomfortable playing Kansas City. The Bills clearly are not. Me and one of my military buddies have an ongoing debate bet I want to know what side you'd be on. So we have a hundred dollar bet on who will win a Super bowl first, Allen or Lamar. I'm on the Josh. Josh side. What do you think? Well, I think with the Steelers winning that game, they can take a little bit of a deep breath. The Ravens still have an uphill battle to go. I liked him a lot more. If the Steelers would have lost the Colts, all of a sudden Pittsburgh looked like Pittsburgh again. In your 5:3, you just got a little more breathing room for a team that's three and five. So it's still an uphill battle. They're probably going to need to sweep those games which Pittsburgh has always played well against Baltimore and taken them out several times even when Baltimore's had really good teams. But the Buffalo Bills still have the number one seed opportunity in 2025. So if they get the number one overall seed and let's say the Ravens are either the fourth seed or somehow get the seven seed or miss the playoffs, I'm just going to like the Bill's chances more this year. And we're just kind of living year to year because we see how fast things can change. So based on this year, I would go just the Bills. But two years ago I would have said when the Ravens had the home field advantage and they look like the best team in the league by a mile. I mean they played the 49ers on Christmas, beat the shit out of them. I was like, the Chiefs aren't beating this team. Then what happened? They lost. How is Mark Davis considered one of the worst owners in football? But he is the gold standard of owners in the wnba. He has three titles hired, the best coach with the best players. Of course, comparing the NFL to the WNBA is apples and oranges, but doesn't it say something positive about the guy? He cares. He tries to. I think in the wnba one, financially it's, it's, it's not even close to being comparable. What do the average player in the WNBA make? 100 grand. I mean, think you have a payroll of $250 million. So mistakes hurt you more in basketball in general. I mean, I don't know much about the aces, but if you get a couple good players, your team's going to be good in football. Like they have Brock Bowers, they have Max Crosby, they have Colt Miller. Like they have other good players and they've had other good players over the years. And it doesn't mean anything. Like it's about having a team. It's about having a coach and a GM that know what they're doing, which I believe they do now. But the roster so shitty, the draft and free agency is so big. I mean, a couple years ago they gave Wilkins from Miami $100 million guaranteed, basically. And two years later he's not even on the team. I don't think he's in the league. So I think it's apples to oranges. I think it's like footballs to basketball. It's just not even comparable. They have nothing in common. Beside you can win a title. Yeah, I mean, I just, I think there are worse owners in the sense that guys that medal like clearly in Cleveland, that guy medals a lot. He's very involved. Clearly over the last five years, David Tepper has gotten too involved. Right. That happens. Not even debatable in some of these. But I don't think he's telling you who to draft or who to pick. So from that standpoint, his downfall has been he's hired the wrong people. Now a huge part of being an owner is hiring people. Right? And letting them, letting them cook. And he's made some catastrophic failures at hiring guys. Josh McDaniels didn't even make it to year to finish year two. What's his name last year? Telesco and Antonio Pierce. One and done. So it's like you start having the one and dones, you find yourself in problems, problem territory, quick. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. This week it's an old school rivalry as the Las Vegas Raiders collide with the Denver Broncos. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with football's best party, TNF. Tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member, not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Raiders and Broncos Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details on.
- [93:26]
Katie Couric
The latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
- [93:39]
Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
- [93:49]
Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
- [94:00]
Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?
- [94:03]
Katie Couric
Okay, okay, wait. I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
- [94:17]
Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
- [94:24]
Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search next question with Katie Couric. And listen now.
- [94:30]
Eva Longoria
I'm Eva Longoria.
- [94:31]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
And I'm Maite Gomez Jejon.
- [94:32]
Eva Longoria
And on our podcast Hungry for History, we mix two of our favorite things, food and history.
- [94:39]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto oyster shells and they called these ostracon to vote politicians into exile. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster.
- [94:52]
Eva Longoria
No way.
- [94:53]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
Bring back the ostrichon.
- [94:55]
Eva Longoria
And because we've got a very mi casa es su casa kind of vibe on our show, friends always stop by.
- [95:02]
John Middlekauff
Pretty much every entry into this side of the planet was through the El Golfo de Mexico. No, the America. No, the America Golfo Mexico forever and ever.
- [95:15]
Eva Longoria
It blows me away how progressive Mexico was in this moment. They had land reform, they had labor rights, they had education rights.
- [95:23]
Maite Gomez-Rejon
Mustard seeds were so valuable to the ancient Egyptians that they used to place them in their tombs for the afterlife.
- [95:29]
Eva Longoria
Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [95:40]
Robyn Dixon
You know the shade is always shadiest right here.
- [95:43]
Gisele Bryant
Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is.
- [95:48]
Robyn Dixon
Here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle.
- [95:58]
Gisele Bryant
And you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen.
- [96:22]
Robyn Dixon
No way.
- [96:23]
Gisele Bryant
I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know.
- [96:29]
Robyn Dixon
You are lying.
- [96:30]
Gisele Bryant
Humongous, y'.
- [96:31]
John Middlekauff
All.
- [96:31]
Robyn Dixon
They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
- [96:43]
Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi World, the Heidi Flower Life Story, and I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films.
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Molly Lambert
We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our Life.
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Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined stardom, then left it all behind.
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Molly Lambert
I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man.
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Narrator (Jenna World podcast)
With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Gentle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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John Middlekauff
Is there any way Darnold could win the mvp, or do you think his reputation not being a big name quarterback could prevent him from winning it? I think the MVP is wide open right now. I mean, wide open from Alan Mahomes to Drake Maze in the mix. Baker Mayfield still in the mix. Obviously, Stafford's now in the mix. Sam Darnold's in the mix. We got two months of primetime games, of divisional games. It's going to play itself out. But hell, Jalen Hurts is not dead by any means. When you look at his stats and where his team kind of sits, I just think we got to be careful about. We got a long, long way to go. Felt pretty good about my Baker Mayfield play, but it's just, it's tough. I don't think him not being a quote unquote big name. I think Sam Darnold's a big name at this point in time. His number three overall pick, usc, obviously crashed out in New York, but I think he has more than resurrected his career to be. I mean, he's been top four or five quarterback this year. He was one of the best quarterbacks in the league last year. So it's like, it's like, well, you had bad playoff games. So does Lamar. I'm not saying that Sam Darnold's as good as Lamar, but we see a lot of guys have bad playoff games. It's football. Jordan Loves had awful playoff game. Dak Prescott's had horrendous playoff game. Guys have bad playoff games. Here we go again. I ask you what would happen if Chicago beat the Commanders and in your words, we'd be sitting pretty good. And here we are five and three. Here's my question. With the NFC north being wide the bleep open, do you think the Bears have any shot at a playoff run? Well, I don't feel like the Bears played the Lions. They got blown out. They played Minnesota. They lost Week one. I'm pulling up your guys schedule here. I actually clicked on the Lions. Let's pull up the Bear schedule. So at 5 and 3, you got to be feeling incredible. 5 and 3, Chicago Bears. Did you guys lose like 10 straight last year after starting 2 and 2? So I think this year to be 5 and 3 and just in the position to have a winning record is pretty incredible. But you've lost. You played two divisional games. You lost them both. Now coming up, you're going to Minnesota. Well, you play the Giants this week, so you got a pretty good chance to be 6 and 3. I would say at this point in time it would be an upset if you're not six and three. Right. So then you got at Minnesota, you got Pittsburgh at home, at Philly, at Green Bay. Cleveland's coming to you. Green Bay, 49ers Lions. If you get to 10 wins. Ben. Ben Johnson's 100% in the coach of the year. And I would say also that Caleb's got to be having a pretty good season. Going to get pretty difficult though. You're facing high end defensive coordinators, just a lot of pressure in these games. The more you win, the more people are paying attention to you, the more they game plan against you in the sense of like take you a little more seriously. I remember everyone slurping Jaden Daniels as Joe Cool. So calm, unfazed. I see a mofo panicked, throwing heaters all over the place. Is that what you see? I feel like he got injured early in the season and hasn't looked right all year long. He looks. I don't know really how to say it. Besides, he just looks off. There's. He doesn't feel as smooth as an athlete and maybe that has to do with some of his hamstring issues. He definitely was not as explosive as a runner this year from a passing standpoint. I mean, McLaren's been in and out of the lineup. Debo is a line of scrimmage wide receiver. Their personnel at wide receiver is not great. Ertz is old. Once Echler got injured. They're depending on this rookie running back. So I'm not giving him a pass. But I, I'm not denying what you're saying. He's. He's looked off. The whole team has. Their whole team. Borderline disaster. Was wondering why the hell so many people anointed the Chiefs as the best team in the league when they were 5 and 3. Now they're 5 and 4. Not in the playoffs. What a joke. How on earth did people view them as the best team? I'm genuinely curious. Well, I mean, I think a huge part of it is their track record. I mean your track record kind of Matters. You have a guy that's won three Super Bowls as a head coach and as a quarterback in an organization, the defensive coordinator, the core group of players, they've been winning the AFC year after year. So when you start seeing them trend the right way, you go, God, now one thing that bit him in the ass for sure against Buffalo is they're missing their left tackle. And then they had multiple offensive line injuries in the game. So there is a massive domino effect. When Simmons left right, you got backups that then you got third stringers in and it can just be a problem. Now I'd have to text those guys. Like, if Josh Simmons is healthy playing left tackle and your right tackle gets injured, is Jalen Moore a left tackle only? Do you feel comfortable playing him on the right side? He's mainly come in in regular season games on the left side. Could be wrong. I mean, I'm pretty sure the Niners, you know, anytime you're a swing tackle. But I just think that the Bills have also beat him five straight years in the regular season. I think where they really got to be kicking themselves is this is what happens when you get yourself in a hole. When you get yourself into a hole early, you got to drop the shovel, but it's easy to kind of trip back down. And that's the thing with the Ravens, is the thing with the Chiefs. All of a sudden, you know, you throw a bad pick at an end of a game and Instead of being 7 and 2, you're 5 and 4. It's a big difference. And that loss, all of a sudden you're like, damn, we're six and six and we're two games behind the six seed. They're not going to win the division. The math just really isn't on their side. So. But there's nothing wrong with not winning your division one year if you end up with 10 or 11 wins. And I would still bet on them being 10 or 11 wins and if they're playing Indy or they're playing Pittsburgh in the first round as like the 3 6, I think it's fair to say there are going to be a lot of people that are going to bet on the Chiefs. And I've bet against the Chiefs several times in the playoffs. I've been burned every single time. So when you do something over and over and you just prove like, this is who we are, you get the benefit of the doubt, right? Your child that never does anything wrong gets straight A's. Like, if she gets one C, it's like, yeah, dad, I just had a bad week. Totally understand. Like, it's hard to make excuses when you're constantly screwing up all the time, right? And that's just not the Chiefs. Like, they have backed it up year in and year out. So when they start showing signs of life and trending in the right direction, it's like, well, look who they played. Well, yeah, I've seen them play everybody. They played shitty teams, good teams, great teams. They beat them all regular season, playoffs, it hasn't mattered. So yeah, I give Andy and Patrick Mahomes the benefit of the doubt.
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Molly Lambert
The volume.
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John Middlekauff
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Katie Couric
Latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years and today he even throws a few questions my way.
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Bernie Sanders
All right, are you ready for another question?
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John Middlekauff
Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.
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Katie Couric
We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Kyle McLaughlin
Hey, I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet Stat. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me to talk about navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality. Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are We Even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bernie Sanders
The Rich Russians Falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad Oligarch Season 2 Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. Season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Gisele Bryant
This is an iHeart podcast.