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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - Dart starting in NY, Cowboys-Packers Preview, Gundy OUT at Oklahoma State
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John Middlekauff
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So we will discuss that situation, how it affects day ball, the ownership, will they look different big picture when it comes to the quarterback coach relationship. Does Brian Dable have to win immediately to keep his job? And if he does, that's a problem if you're a Giants fan for the way they're building this thing because you shouldn't take quarterback. So we'll dive into all that as well as Micah Parsons headed back to Dallas with the Green Bay packers, who are big favorites against the Dallas Cowboys, who are going to be without CD Lamb, at least based on by the time I'm recording this because all reports he's missing some time. And Mike Gundy, I'm A man, I'm 40, was fired today from Oklahoma State. So a couple quick thoughts there as well. We'll also do a mailbag at johnmittlecoff at johnmittlecoff is the Instagram fire in those DMS as well as if you guys listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to Three and Out as well as the YouTube channel. 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First purchase terms apply Again, create an account. Redeem the code John for $20 off. Download the game Time math today. Lowest price guaranteed. Okay, let's dive in to the to the New York Football Giants. And I think you could relate this to a relationship that any one of you listening that have been dumped or dumped someone, the power of love, hate, anger, those emotions are really powerful, right? And anytime you're in love with someone and they're not in love with you or vice versa, and they stop caring. Especially when you screw up and you've done something done in apathy seeks in. When they just move on and literally are not emotionally moved at all by anything you do, you're done. You're just done. And anyone knows, like she can hate you. You still got a chance. When she doesn't care, you got no shot. And I think sports can be like that too. And obviously depending on your market, there's a fervor like, let's face it, you can lose in the Northeast and people are still pretty dialed in, right? People. The interest in Philly, in Boston, in New York when they're losing is a lot different than where I'm from in Northern California. I've done radio. When the 49ers were the butt of everyone's joke in the league after Jim Harbaugh. It was not fun, and it definitely wasn't profitable because people didn't listen, people didn't care. Apathy sets in on the west coast when it comes to sports really, really quick. But I bet if you went to the SEC right now and you went to Florida, like, their season's a disaster. They're going to lose a ton of games, but the interest level is really high because they think their coach is going to get fired. Coaching lists, who can we hire? Can we get Gruden? Could we get Lane? There's a lot of interest, and not every market is like that. And I'll never forget a scene in Private Parts, the movie with Howard Stern and Paul Giamatti, who played, like, his program director, which is the guy that runs the station, hated him. Howard and his crew had a nickname for him called Pig Vomit. We actually stole that nickname when I. When I was in radio and called this guy that was technically a boss that, too, because we hated him so much. We loved that. That line by. By Howard. But this is in the late 90s, and he just can't get over how Howard is having success. So they basically, like, have this research group, like I think they do with movies, to come in, watch the movie, and then give feedback. And this little exchange in the movie was the researcher telling Paul Giamatti, whose character's name was Kenny, his reaction. He said, the average radio listener listens for 18 minutes a day. The average Howard Stern fan listens for. Are you ready for this? An hour and 20 minutes. And Kenny goes, well, how could this be? And the researcher says, well, most commonly, these people say, I want to see what he'll say next. And then Giamatti goes, okay, but what about the people who hate Howard Stern? And the response was this. Good point. The average Howard Stern hater listens for two and a half hours. Think about that. You could argue that hate sometimes and anger and listen. You see it in this political climate is definitely a more powerful emotion than love, which is kind of sad. State of where we're at. But it's true, you know, controversy sells. I think our biggest YouTube video I've ever done since doing. You know, we created a YouTube channel a year and a half ago. Is Shador Sanders dropping in the draft. Think about that. It's not reacting to some awesome game, some playoff game, some guy getting hired. It's typically guys getting fired, talking about people losing. Shador Sanders dropping in a draft. It's what people are drawn to. Like, I don't make the rules. And Howard Stern was a great example of that a long, long time ago of like people that claim that they hate him listen longer. And I think when fans there's an anger level when you're losing, right? But then there gets to a point where if you never stop losing, you go, why am I watching? This is not fun. I'm not getting anything out of this. An apathy sense in where people just stop paying attention. And at the end of the day, when you own one of these teams, you're guaranteed to make money. Like the New York Giants cannot lose money. It's literally impossible because they can't go high enough on their salary cap to every getting close to even, breaking even. And obviously your players are your biggest expenses. But you can get to a point where it feels like in a market where the Knicks are now a really big deal and are going to be a team heading into this season to be favored to not only compete to win the east, but one of the better teams in the NBA. Yankees are a playoff team. Mets. I haven't checked the standings lately. Are they a playoff team too? I'm pretty sure they are. Lot going on in New York City. Ryder Cups there and it feels like the New York Giants are an afterthought just a couple of years removed from winning a playoff game. And this move and this is where I think it gets complicated. If you are going to allow Brian Dabel and I said this, you can't get mad at Russell Wilson. What we witnessed last week, which I think a lot of people would say, like how do you throw it out of bounds on four fourth down to end the game? How does that happen? How's he in the game? Like that's on the coach. That's on Brian Dabel. You could argue Brian Dabel just starting. Russell Wilson is also on the coach. He should have just started Jackson dart from the jump and lived with the ups and downs. But I also think it falls on the guy that's paying Brian Dabel, the owner. Because if you were going to allow a guy, quote unquote on the hot seat and a guy that feels like he's somewhat coaching for his job to hand pick a quarterback in the first round and then allow him to pick and choose when he plays him early in the season and go with a guy, Russell Wilson, who was felt like over the hill several years ago, you have to give that guy multiple years if you don't want your organization to become even A bigger joke, because I would argue this. If you're going to allow Brian Dabolla in this organization to run a rookie quarterback out there, a guy that you just drafted in the first round, a guy that he personally wanted, you got to give it like 30 games. You basically got to give it this year and next to at least see what it looks like. Because we have seen some legendary people. I mean, look who's calling Monday Night Football Troy Aikman. Anyone watch that Netflix documentary? It couldn't have gone any worse after year one. I think Troy was quoted in that documentary, like, I wasn't even feeling great about my status as the starter moving forward. Like, I didn't know how my career was going to go. Peyton Manning had one of the worst rookie seasons you'll ever see. They barely won, set a record for interceptions. But you got time. And I think most people would go, well, what if Jackson Dart only wins a couple games the rest of the season? Right? How. How much promise can you really show for Brian Dable to be safe? But if you fire Brian Dabel and then just bring more coaches in, this exactly what Kevin o' Connell is talking about. Organizations fail players as much as. Unless we have an example of Jamarcus Russell and Johnny Manziel and Ryan Leaf, guys that torpedoed their own career. But there have been a lot of guys that failed, that tried really hard. They just had turmoil after turmoil after coach and OC and GMs and just moving parts, new schemes. That's not a healthy way to play. Ask Patrick Mahomes what it's like every single day since he's been in the league. Walking into a meeting room or Andy Reid is. It's a huge benefit. And I just think that the Giants have to be very careful. They made this move, and I would imagine there was pressure because the ownership couldn't have been this dumb to realize people were checking out. People went, I'm done. And this isn't one of those where it's like, I'm fake done, where I'm just mad at you. Like, if you're a Patriot fan right now, you're kind of down because your expectations were pretty high, but you're not done. Like, you're pretty interested in. See how. But if you're a Giants fan, you're like, if Russell Wilson keeps playing, I'm not. I'm not turning on this game. It's like those texts you sent her, she ain't texting you back anymore. She's on dates with other people. She doesn't give a shit about you. She's waking up next to other dudes like, it's over. And that's. The Giants had to have that understanding of like, we are down this lane where people just truly do not care. Because I think there's that first, like, I don't care, but it's a lie. Like, you do kind of care. And then you cross that line where it's like, I'm out. And this is the way you bring everyone back in. Which is the right move from a business standpoint, from just a football standpoint. But now big picture the way to do it right, you basically got to give Brian Day ball two years this year and next or else you risk ruining this guy's career, ruining this guy's, you know, ability to get it going. Because whoever you were to hire, let's say you win five games this year and you fire the head coach, you're only going to interview people that have good things to say about Jackson Dart. Guess what people say in interviews. They say lies to try to get that job. Not saying there wouldn't be some people that would take the job that like them, but even if you were indifferent on the player, you would fake it to get the gig. So I think the Giants now Jackson Dart starter moving forward. But obviously as long as he's healthy and live with the ups and downs, there's probably going to be some downs. Hopefully there are several ups that enough to show some progress and hope for next year. But I think you have to let the coach who is an offensive guy that wanted this guy, give him ample time. I'm not shilling for Brian Dable. Hell, a couple years ago I walked into an elevator at the combine and I said I wouldn't be shocked if Brian Dabel lit into me right now because I had. I said something that kind of went viral about the way him and Wink and the coaches and listen I said was a true statement. But if he was mad, like he's fine, I was ready. I was like, I'm just going to take it, you know, he didn't. He just kind of looked at me, smiled and maybe he didn't even realize. But regardless, like I'm not some huge Brian Dabel supporter, but he deserves to get ample time with his hand pick quarterback because they do have some positive things going. Malik neighbors, Freak Show, Scatter Boo Beast defensive front, awesome players. Hell, even cave on Thibodeau looks good for the first time, I think. And since like college where I even thought he was kind of an overrated player. But it's going to be fascinating to watch this happen because I think they made this move and there's probably pressure applied for business purposes, which I'm never against in a situation when you suck like I was never against Miami tanking like Brian Flores. Winning those three of the last five games was the worst thing they've ever done as a franchise. Costumed Joe Burrow. And then they didn't even pick the right guy in Justin Herbert. 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John Middlekauff
The Green Bay packers are rolling into Dallas. It's my favorite bet of the week. I would be stunned. CD Lamb is out at least I'm recording this on Tuesday. Reports are he's going to miss, you know, three to four weeks, so he's not going to play in this game. You saw dramatically how different they look than when they're CD and George Pickens for Dak to throw to with some of the other randoms to win. CD is gone. Their offense is going to be good enough and we know their defense is putrid. Green Bay is coming off an embarrassing loss to Cleveland. Not embarrassing that they were looked like they were going to win 10 to 3 at one point. Who cares? Cleveland has a great defense, but Jordan throws a bad pick. They get a field goal block like they should have won that game. Honestly, the only way they lose is him throwing an interception. But I think Green Bay is going to come in this game with their hair on fire. But the story is going to be as Micah Parsons returns. And you know, Jerry had some comments today that he thought that by waiting they got more in return with trading Micah Parsons. That's where I would disagree. I think if he would have put him on the block, I have no problem with him trading the player. I think we can all agree if Jerry had given Micah Parsons $180 million and he was on this defense, they would not be that much better because they can't cover a soul and Micah can't sack the quarterback every single play. This team would not have been good with or without him. They're obviously worse without Micah Parsons, but he was not the difference of them being a playoff team or not. I think we can universally agree on that. But it's going to be ugly. It's going to look really bad. And Mike is going to sack Dak maybe a couple times. And part of making a tough move like this, like when Jerry Maguire goes, looks around, says who's coming with me? Any human being when they're young that leaves a job to try to do their own thing. Anyone is like, listen, I'm dating a girl that's out of my league, but I don't like her and you leave her. You know, when you check the Internet, when you see your buddies out early on, it could be ugly times could be tough and you got to be thick skinned to make tough decisions. And anytime in sports when you trade a guy that's clearly one of the best, even if big picture is the right move, it's, it's going to look, it can't look much worse. I can't imagine on Sunday you're going to be getting your ass kicked. He's going to be flying around. Your team looks like it's headed nowhere fast, and their team looks like it's headed to compete in the NFC Championship. And this is where I think the Cowboys are a little lucky that Jerry's the guy making these decisions. He's the owner, he's the gm. He's the grand poo ball. And sometimes when a GM makes these type decisions, the. The whole fan base turns on him. And then the owner, even if he agreed with them, has to turn on him, too. But what are you going to do screaming Jerry some more? Like, Jerry ain't getting rid of the team. Jerry ain't firing himself. So Jerry's lucky that by making this move, they only have him to scream at, and he clearly doesn't give a shit. So I would expect. I don't think I've liked the game this much this season as much, especially when you start talking like, seven, eight points to cover on the road. I can't see the Cowboys keeping this within 10 points. I really can't. Especially once Green Bay, whose defense is really good, has a week to plan for. No CD Lamb. I mean, I could see the Cowboys struggling to score, like 15 points with him gone. And defensively, even if your offense is struggling, they are the team to play. Just ask Caleb William and Ben Johnson. Okay, we'll end on this. Because Mike Gundy's rant, I'd have to go back and look, that was what. He's 58. That was 18 years ago. So that was like 2007. You know, social media, Facebook was around, but Twitter, Instagram, that would have been as viral. That. That was a viral moment in times when it was harder to go viral. Right. It's. It's much easier to go viral because of the algorithms. Now, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, whatever. But that was as legendary of a rant as there's ever been in the history of sports. And it's something anyone who's a little younger than me and obviously older than me will never forget till the day we die. When you say Mike Gundy, the first thing you think of is, I'm a man. I'm 40, right? Talk to me. That rant that he had and that orange polo was a defining moment for a guy that's a legendary coach. And I look today, you know, he went on a rant a couple weeks ago that they were about to play Oregon, and he said, it's not really a fair fight. And I think, you know, Dan Lanning, who said in a respectable way, and they beat the living crap out of him. I think the final score is like 69 to 3 or 63 to 3. I mean they, I had a buddy in the NFL that said he watched the tape of that game. And obviously in college football throughout the year you're going to see some blowouts. But typically it's like, you know, when Oregon plays UC Davis, right? Or Ohio State plays San Diego State, when you see these like 55 to zeros, you see two power four teams playing. And just a couple years ago Oklahoma State won 10 games. They're a program that over the course of Gundy's career, he's won 12 bowl games. His career, in 18 bowl games he's won 12 of them. His record is 170 and 90. Like this guy's won double digit games. I think like seven or eight times. This guy's a winner. And for him to get embarrassed a couple weeks ago when he said like it's a money thing. They got way more money than we do. And the irony is at one point in time, 10, 15 years ago, Oklahoma State, when T. Boone Pickens was alive, they would have crushed the NIL era. Texas Tech, I would say before nil never beat Utah. They can't beat him because they can't match their physicality. It would have been an unreal matchup for Utah. But then what did Texas Tech do? They had this guy who became a billionaire because of oil who played there and says, I'll fund the program. So what did they do when the transfer portal opened? They started paying defensive linemen. Well, in the history of the program, especially since it got good once Mike Leach showed up, they never recruited those type players because twofold, one, those players didn't take their program seriously and two, they had no chance to land them even if they were giving them 10, 20k brown backs. Those guys were going to Alabama, Ohio State, Florida, Georgia, lsu. Now they get them and they went to Utah and they manhandled them. A Utah team that has multiple guys that are going to be starters on the offensive line in the National Football League next year. NIL changed college football. T. Boone Pickens is dead. So Oklahoma State's advantage of having money, supporting the program and being it, it doesn't really exist like it once did. So when you saw them versus Oregon 10 years ago in this landscape, it might have been an even fight. And maybe Mike Gundy could have bought those defensive linemen, but he can't now. So you see this guy that played there from 86 to 89 that then coached there from 1990 to 95, and then came back in 2001 and then became the head coach. When Les Miles left in 2005, he spent more than half his life. He's 58 years old as a coach and, you know, four years as a quarterback for Oklahoma State. So I can't imagine. Even though it's not going well, I think he is 4 and 11 since the start of last year. And they did not win a conference game in 2024. They went.09 in the Big 12, which obviously the Big 12. It's weird. It's not as good as the SEC or the Big Ten, but in terms of top to bottom, it's a pretty tough conference. He didn't win a fucking game, and he looks like he might go winless again. So sometimes, like, not all divorces are the wrong decision. I've been saying this with Mike Tomlin forever. Like, it'd be healthy to go somewhere else. Go coach the New York Giants, go coach the New York jets, go coach the Chicago Bears. You're just holding on to something that doesn't look like it's going in the right direction. Andy Reid getting fired from the Philadelphia Eagles is the best thing that's ever happened to him professionally, by far. Look what's happened in Kansas City. He's become like the chubby Bill Walsh, like, at the time. Now it sucks getting fired happened to me. Sure. People listening have been laid off or fired. It sucks because there's. I always thought as a kid, the only way you get fired is showing up late, being lazy, being a D bag. Well, there's some industries like, no, it's like management change, things change. You could be the hardest worker, smartest guy, most productive guy. But if, like, someone doesn't like you, someone wants you gone. Like, there are a lot of variables and nothing more than football coaching. Gottlieb, who played there, was like, you know, over the years, you make some enemies, and the longer you stay, the more enemies you accumulate. And after a while, when you start losing, that enemy list from two or three guys has grown to, like, 15. And they can get you, and they can put a nail in your coffin. And that's what happened. I imagine it sucks because of what he had invested. I saw a week ago, you know, Dabo's rant of, like, I'm a human being. I'm not. This hurts this place. I've been here for 23 years. These guys, the passion and how much they care about their university. Like, I don't think it's Lip service. They've obviously, they make a lot of money, right? So they're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart. They're paid premiums. But I've been around these college football coach, especially guys like you're talking about two guys that have a combined, like, 55 years of experience at their universities. Like, it matters to him. But it's also was time. Like, I think this about Dabo Sweeney. If you know what I'd be doing if I was Dabo, and I would imagine he's not doing this yet. I'd be telling my agent, tell Florida we're in, it's time, I'm moving on. And who knows, maybe Florida, like, you're gonna do better than Dabo Sweeney. You're gonna find a guy with better than his resume. You take the risk on Jon Gruden over Dabo Sweeney. Because that's what I would do if I was Dabo. I'd pivot. But it's easier said than done. I have no emotional connection. But it also shows you, like, you can be as loyal. And as it happened to Pat Fitzgerald, who I've known a couple of people because I worked with them, with the Eagles that worked under him. Pat Fitzgerald wasn't, like, liked. He was beloved by his staff and people that played for him. The respect level that people had for that man and the moment that hazing thing came down, they kicked him to the curb. Luckily, you know, I mean, I don't necessarily care, but he sued the shit out of him and just won a lot of money. But no one had Northwestern, like, essentially tattooed on his forehead or the love and the passion and they turned on because you don't own the university. You're an at will. Obviously, you're under contract, but they can get rid of you whenever they see fit. And they have to pay you whatever they owe you in the contract. But I think Mike Gundy and Dabo were to learn this lesson. Everyone is selectively loyal, and that's the way business is. And the best things that have happened in my life is getting kicked to the curb a couple times in my late 20s and early 30s and teach me just how Cutthroat. Because you can read all these books, you can listen to YouTubes, you can follow all these, you know, people online, talk to people, but until it happens to you, Mike Gundy's never been fired. Mike Gundy's been making. Probably made $100 million over the last five or six years. Mike Gundy has lived like a king. And then you Walk into an office and they tell you pack up your shit, you're done. I don't care who you are. Like that's, that's a kick in the, you know what? So I just think that college football has changed dramatically. And if you're coaching at the schools with a big time money, you have a big advantage to win and there's basically no excuse not to win. I think Texas Tech now falls under this category. They've been a productive program over the years. Now they got big money and anything less than like 10, 11 wins is beyond a disappointment. And by all accounts, Joey McGuire, the coach there, looks like he's headed toward, I mean, the playoffs, as he should be. He has a roster with a bunch of NFL guys on it. And I think Mike Gundy, who kind of got, as the kids would say, dragged a little bit a couple of weeks ago when he played Oregon with his comments, was just speaking the truth. We don't have that money here. We don't have, we can't land the players because are they going there because they love Dan Lanning? Listen, I'm pro Dan Lanning, but it's much easier to get guys to say yes when you're giving them a lot of money. It's you want $900,000, you want $750,000, you want this car and the other program's not where are you going to go? That's what this sport has turned into, which I've become numb to, I'm cool with. But I think we have to acknowledge like when Oregon plays Penn State, they're equals, they're both spending a ton of money. But when they play some of these other programs, they're not on equal footing when it comes to money. And if you're at one of those programs, that job now like Oklahoma State, used to be a good job. I'd argue it's one of the shittier jobs in the country. Now if they're not going to financially back it, you got no shot. None. Don't even try it. Do I think Vanderbilt is just now randomly good? Obviously the coach is pretty interesting clerkly, but I would imagine if we dug, you know, beneath the surface, guess who has gone to Vanderbilt over the years? Rich people. Who do you think is helping fund the program? Money. You can't function anymore without, without big cash flow. It's, it's like the NFL. The difference is all the NFL teams because their valuations, because the media deals have money. There's no such thing as equality in college sports. Ohio State and Notre Dame and USC and Texas have a financial advantage under the rules we play under now that is dramatically different than some of these other programs and more power to them for taking advantage of it. But we have to just acknowledge that like, Mike Gundy is a product currently of like, did he just get dumb overnight after all those 12 win seasons, 10 win seasons, 9 win seasons? You know, going toe to toe with Oklahoma over the years, winning bowl games? No, they don't have the financial wherewithal. And so whoever takes this job, Godspeed, because I don't think you're going to win many games.
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Colin Cowherd
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John Middlekauff
Okay, I got so many mailbag questions @johnmittlecoff is my Instagram. I was like, you know what, we've had a busy day. We've put out a lot of stuff but let's do a mailbag at johnmittlekoff. Ohnmiddelkoff is the Instagram fire in those DMs. Get your question answered here on the show. And I wanted to start with this question because I thought it was fascinating and I thought it was an extra excellent kind of thought provoker. And it was would you rather have Howie Roseman or the best NFL coach if you were starting a franchise? And I thought about it because I saw this question in my inbox probably yesterday. I think it's a little like quarterback. Right? I think you could argue that Miles Garrett, like if you're just looking at like, you know, this is a question over a period of time, but let's say Miles Garrett was younger. He's a better player than I don't know if there are 32 starting quarterbacks, 28 of them. Right. That's how impactful he is. Yet you would probably take 10 quarterbacks over him, maybe even more. Why? Look at the Browns, they got him. And as Kevin Stefanski says, he's the defensive player of the year in perpetuity. He's clearly the most dominant unstoppable player. Right. When he tries and is healthy, he can't be blocked. Even Jordan, my lotta who joint practiced against when the Eagles joint practice against the Browns said their offensive line room was laughing about how good he was. Like it was stupid. Yet you wouldn't take him over obviously Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Herbert, burrow of healthy that crew. But I think you could argue the Next tier of guys, because you can have a great pass rusher, but you have no quarterback, you got no shot. Howie's an elite general manager and I think there are other guys that would fall under this category as well. But you would take an elite head coach. You know, I think anyone in this scenario would take the coach, the top coach in any, in any era. Andy Reid, Bill Walsh, you name it. I think you would take the top six or seven coaches. And specifically in for this exercise, the offensive ones that call plays their values really high. So you got Andy Reid, you know, you got McVeigh, you got Shanahan. I mean, these guys are proven winners, right? I think the thing with Leflore, you'd go, well, the packers, the organization that. That would be up in the air, you know, Sean Payton, it's pretty powerful to have that guy, you know, Harbaugh, while he doesn't call plays like he's kind of proven now, wherever he's going, he's winning wherever he's going. So I would throw him in that mix, you know. But then there would be guys like Dan Campbell, I like a lot, but how much. You know, it was a partnership with Brad Holmes, right? Brad Holmes is clearly picking the players. Right? Listen, this is where the Sirianni thing. No. 1, if you had to choose with the Eagles, Howie Roseman or Nick Sirianni, it would be. There wouldn't be a soul that would choose Sirianni. Right. But that's more of an indication how great Howie is. But I think you would take a lot of coaches and I think how he'd be the first to tell you that, you know, they spend a lot of money on assistant coaches, right? They can, they have, you know, from Doug to Nick, you know, those guys are probably more plug and play type coaches, but they are spending premiums. Jeff Stoutland makes a ton of money. He's the highest paid offensive line coach in the league. Vic Fangio makes a ton of money. So they pay premiums for certain individuals on the staff. So you can't. I guess that's a long winded way of saying, I think there'd be. The number would be under 10, but there would be way more than one coach going before how he was picked. Great question. Why do offensive coaches seem to not give a shit about special teams? The Rams and Niners in particular have lost multiple games the last few years due to what seems to be an indifference to that unit giving up not one, but two block field goals to lose a game against a team. You were working in the first 65% of the game. And then McVeigh talking about offensive mistakes instead of how dog shit his field goal unit was. Doesn't make any sense. I'll never doubt him. But he and Shanahan and others, quote, unquote, geniuses, they care more about special. They need to care more about special teams. Do you think they're just arrogant or don't practice enough? I think it's simple, is these guys care about schematically drawing up the offense and they like defense, right? Both those two guys, for example, Jared Verse, Nick Bosa, Mikel Williams, Brandon Fisk. Like, they invest resources into the. They value the defensive line really highly, which I respect. That's, you know, the older version of them. Andy Reid has always been like, that cares about the line of scrimmage and specifically defensive lineman. I think there is a nature to defensive coaches that you utilize a lot of their guys on special teams, right? To open field tackle, to. To shed blocks. And I think that element of football, defensive guys gravitate more towards special teams because there's a physical nature, there's a tackling nature separate from the kicker and the punter, who most defensive or offensive coaches aren't necessarily relating to. I don't think it's an arrogance. I think it's. I don't relate to that style of football, and I don't take it seriously in the sense of I don't like it, right? And I can't even fake it. And both those guys are good examples of, you know, Kyle said this offseason. I'm sure McVeigh has talked about it. I don't care what you say. The most overrated thing, and you learn this as you get older, are words like, you know, I've seen from Maria, she's like, I take nothing seriously until we get pen to paper on a real estate transaction, right? And like, you can say anything about anyone in business, but it's like, well, is the deal signed? Is it done? And so many of these coaches, like, I care about special teams, and then I watch your units are terrible year in, year out. Yet a lot of these defensive coaches are special teams units typically are good. Why? Because what do they practice more often? Probably tackling that. That mindset. It like, the coach is there. If you went to a special teams practice, and I can't. I've never been to a Rams practice, but I've been to my fair share of Kyle Shanahan practices. He does. He doesn't pay attention. He does not give a shit. And he can't fake it. Which I respect. As long as you admit, like, yeah, I don't care. I don't know anything about it. I'm. We got to pay a special teams coach a lot of money to handle that, and I think they attempted to do that this year. You know, the Rams before is. Have they had bones back in the day who was pretty good, but I don't know. I think they would just. They just can't relate to that unit as human beings. And it starts with the kicker and the punter. I just think they hate those two positions. I think it's such a waste. It's like, that's the game, guys. Question for the mailbag. Has Russell Wilson played himself out of hall of Fame contention since leaving Seattle? I just don't remember a guy's career going from such stardom to so much negativity as this player. Right. Typically it just ends. You get old Manning, Roethlisberger, it's like no one's really breeze. People will forget that last year, them struggling to throw right. You just remember the good times, how great they were. But you look at Russell Wilson, he. Someone pointed this out to me the other day. He's been to 10 Pro Bowls, 10. Walter Payton, man of the Year. He's been an All Pro, obviously a Super bowl champion. He's led the league in passing yards and passer ratings and passing touchdowns. Like, he has some legendary seasons. If you just watched him from an eye test standpoint, he had just 20, 25, 34 and 8, 34 and 11, 35 and 7, 40 and 13. Like, he had some massive years where he was just one of the most dynamic players in the league. But I think two factors. Felt like the team didn't love him, felt like the best players on his team, I don't know, resented him. And then Pete and John completely turned on him. And then obviously, the way these last three or four years have gone, I would say in the peak of his powers, he was undoubtedly a Hall of Famer. But if you look at the total body of work, I just think, you know, like, if Eli Manning is going to get in, then he's got to get in. And as someone pointed out, well, if Matt Stafford is in the conversation, then Russell Wilson has to get in. So do I think he ends up getting in? I do. I've always said this. I'd have no problem if we didn't let any of them in. Like, it'd be like Rogers, Brady, Manning, Mahomes, like Marino, Elway, Montana. I'd Keep my list Farve. My list would be short. Aikman Young. Like you'd have to like check every box, but that's not the way it is. They let in too many guys, in my opinion. It should be a lot of Deion Sanders and Lawrence Taylor's and Ed Reeds, but we've diluted it a little bit. And that's my respect to how great the elite guys are. They shouldn't have to share that room with other people, but they do. What a performance by the Lions. Question for the Mailbag Dan Campbell and Sirianni were both mocked for their opening press conferences and ranked behind coaching hires like Arthur Smith, Urban Meyer and Brandon Staley. They have taken teams into Baltimore and physically beat up the Ravens. Both have gone into Arrowhead and won and both are perennial powerhouses. And both do this with quarterbacks most people don't think are that good. I know they don't have the long resume yet, but it's hard to argue a coach like Mike Tomlin is better right now. I can argue that Campbell or Sirianni could have gotten the Ravens or Bills over the hump by now. I think Reed, McVay and Kyle are by far the top tier, but it's hard not to put them in the mix with the Harbaughs, Pete Carroll's, Sean Payton's. Where would you rank them based on how the coaches are right now? I think when we talk about golf and Jalen, the argument more is like, especially with Jalen, should he be in the top tier mix? And I think any logical argument is he's not as good as those guys, though he's winning. I think that's fair. And I think same thing with golf, though. Both guys can beat whoever they're playing on any given week and their teams are really good. I do think what and I said this last night what Campbell and I'd say Brad Holmes have done. The Lions were like the losing his franchises franchise of the 2000s. You couldn't have lost more games than them. The 2010s, even with Stafford and Dominic and sue and Calvin Johnson, they were awful. They had a well under.500 record. So those guys got there and resurrected this franchise. Now the Eagles had hit hard times for like a year and a half and had Howie Roseman an established guy. And I'm not trying to diminish Sirianni, but I would take Campbell over Sirianni if all things are equal. Now, if I get Howie Roseman, sure. I mean, I can take any coach that's what it feels like. So I think comparing Sirianni and Dan Campbell, even though Sirianni just won a Super bowl, you know, people, everyone wins with Philadelphia. Chip Kelly, who I think is not a very good, you know, football coach, would not want him to be my offensive coordinator. I didn't love that hire by Pete Carroll, but he won 20 games and back, you know, in two year stretch with the Philadelphia Eagles. People win with Philly, owner pays. Just an incredible organization. It's like if John Harbaugh got fired next year, whoever came into Baltimore is going to win. You know why you win now where I do agree, like Dan Campbell is definitely better right now than Mike Tomlin. I would take Dan Campbell over Mike Tomlin and I think it'd be hard to argue. I mean, Sirianni is just winning at a really high clip. I do think there's more variables working for Sirianni than some of like the Lions owner just turned 100 today. Martha Ford. It's not, I wouldn't call it the most dynamic organization in the league. I mean, Jeffrey Lurie's writing checks. They're manipulating the salary cap to load their roster. But I hear what you're saying. I think it's part of the society we live in too. Like who's hot, who's not. You know, I think Jim Harbaugh is like validating how well it's going. But like Jim Harbaugh wins, should anyone be shocked that he's winning? Right. He's an elite coach. He would win with any gm. Like, to me, that's powerful. So you could argue beside Andy Reid, who has two and a half plus decades of winning, the guy that you feel the most confident if you had a coaching draft would be Jim Harbaugh, number two. I think Andy Reid would be universal, the number one pick. I think if you wanted to have the highest floor, it'd be Jim Harbaugh. He's one with everybody. Random quarterbacks at Stanford and Michigan, Alex Smith, Kaepernick. You give him a good one.
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Shit. How many games he won the last two years? He won 11 last year. He's got three. He's won 14 games in what he's won 14 or 20 games since he got back in the NFL. Irvin Meyer, Gage got to the NFL, he didn't even make it halfway through the season. They said, pack up your shit and leave. You suck. Hard to forget. Like, I'm less emotional about Urban now that he's not coaching anymore, but he did shed the stink of that Jacksonville situation. No one brings it up. Think how embarrassing that was. It's what, like, you lose games, people lose games. You have a bad season, you have a bad season. They cleared out his locker in his office before the season even ended. It was that bad. He was that big of an embarrassment. He was that over his head. Jim, go back and forth. No problem. Would you rather be the GM of the Chiefs or the Ravens, not including the coaches? Chiefs defense is awesome, but their offense is questionable and the Ravens are the opposite thoughts. Two tough divisions. The Ravens division is technically easier. So if you just factored in 100% football, you would say the Ravens. The Steelers are, I mean, a year away from Rogers retiring and who even knows how actually good he is. I mean, we're going to see him play Minnesota this week. That could not go well. They have a bunch of older players that's a powder keg waiting to blow up the Browns. I mean, the best player besides Jim Brown in the history of the franchise is going to be like 35 years old by the time they figure out their quarterback situation. That organization's a mess. And the Bengals are just the Bengals. And now their quarterback is missing another season. So I think from a football divisional standpoint, you would 100% pick the Ravens. From a personal standpoint, if money was equal, I would much rather live in Kansas City than I would Baltimore. So, I mean, both are cold, but I would Kansas City. I've lived there before and I've lived down the road from Baltimore. I'll choose Kansas City every day of the week and twice on Sundays. Both places care about football. I feel like, yeah, I would just, I would choose Kansas City from a personal standpoint, assuming, you know, money and power and all that stuff was the same. The other thing with rosters is like, you have Lamar and you have Patrick under contract, but rosters are pretty fluid in the NFL Within a couple years, like how many guys on this Chiefs roster and how many guys on that Ravens roster will still be there? The Ravens probably have a couple more high end defensive guys. You got Roquan, you got Kyle Hamilton, you got the Clemson corner, Wiggins. He's not going anywhere. But I mean, a lot of those guys you'll cycle through. You know, Chris Jones will be gone. Travis Kelsey clearly will probably retire after this year. So I think unless you're looking at like the Lions roster, which clearly these guys are going nowhere for the foreseeable future. NFL rosters are or change. Do I have my first round picks, how much cap space I'm going To have those things always factor in. The other thing is the Ravens. You know, Andy will buy sweet players in free agency. Like, he'll be aggressive. It's not really an organizational philosophy of the Ravens. The occasionally, like, they trade for Roquan and then sign them, but they usually let guys walk. And they're big on drafting and developing, probably as much like the Packers. They're like the bigger market version of the Packers. They're huge on letting guys walk, getting comp picks and then drafting. And they've historically been a pretty good drafting team. What's up with the Lamar gargling? I'm a Steeler fan, so I get. I get it. I might be biased, but I feel like I'm constantly watching excuses made for Lamar after losing big games. He had a losing record in the playoffs and he never seems to beat the Chiefs or the Bills, even in the regular season. He beat the Bills last year in the regular season. Kick their ass. But I hear what you're saying. If this were basketball, the media would be killing him. Like James Harden or Embiid or Paul George. I think the main difference is, let's use Joel Embiid. Joel Embiid doesn't play in regular season games like Paul George. These guys miss a lot of time with injuries. And Joel Embiid has never been to a conference finals. Paul George, I guess he has in Indiana. James has, you know, now James is terrible in the playoffs, but I hear you. I think there would be some of that. I think. I think Lamar Jackson is way more likable than James Harden. And Joel Embiid dramatically more. Like, no one's ever said you're fat. If anything, Lamar's like, you know, I looked a little slow, so I lost some weight. And B's, like, I'm in the best shape of my life and he's out of shape. It's like, what are we doing? Obviously, his body's left him now. And James Harden to me is. I have actually seen James Harden live. I remember in a playoff series, like, the first year the warriors won the championship, they were playing him when he had Dwight Howard, he was actually pretty good. I remember being in game one and he was just hitting these step backs. I'm like, this fucking guy's pretty good. But over ever since, I mean, he's been horrendous in the playoffs. I hear you. I mean, you got to win one thing. He's benefited from that. Like, that Josh Allen just has. And his defense has been dominant. When you watch his defense, the other night look like that. You're not used to seeing that. He's not used to having a bad defense. He's used to having the best defense or one of the best defenses. So like any has a high level organization, you know, like Lamar has a lot going for him but he's also a pretty special player. Now he for his standards, wasn't very good the other night, missed some open throws, ran into some sacks. He was shitty. I don't know what you want me to tell you, but more often than not he's pretty good. He hasn't won in the playoffs, right. And so I've always said like I had Josh Allen ranked above him before last year. Josh been good in the playoffs. Lamar hasn't. And even last year like he was good in one half. So I hear you. There's definitely a Harden esque element to Lamar. I just think he's more like, I think he's just easier to like. Some people are just likable. Some people are not. Like I just think Joel Embiid is not very likable anymore.
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John Middlekauff
The Minnesota Vikings will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. They have one of if not the best rosters in the league alongside top tier coaching scheme and defense. If quarterback play can just be middle of the pack with the weapons they have, the Vikings will make it all the way. Thoughts? That's a pretty big question mark. Okay, they have this rookie quarterback who could not play last year comes this year has played eight quarters. Seven of them have been atrocious and is now injured. They are rolling out Carson Wentz who I get it. They just won a game by a lot playing Jake Browning. He has started sick six years, six different teams. So not exactly the you know the model of just stability with him. So I think they got a lot of moving parts at the quarterback position. Is JG McCarthy good and could they win big games with Carson Wentz? I think we don't know the answer to that. Don't dispute anything else you said but every we all said that coming into the year roster sweet. It's why a lot of people that have hit me up about you know, Sam Darnold. I think I don't know if I got this question with Sam but someone sent me a DM like the Vikings are dumb. They should have just kept Sam Darnold. I get he was bad those last couple of weeks, but he is so much better than their situation now. And while I agree Sam Darnold is dramatically better today than JJ McCarthy, the chances JJ McCarthy will ever be as good as Sam was last year and is currently playing for Seattle, it's probably slim to none. But they would have had to give him a big contract and they wouldn't have signed the guys they signed. So it was a cost benefit analysis. Do we want to invest in Sam Darnold? We already have this rookie quarterback on the roster. And then not fill our roster up with better players or let Sam walk, go all in with jj, get some backup quarterbacks, you know, figure out a veteran backup quarterback behind him and load up our roster. And that's what they chose to do, which I, which I can't, I can't hate on because there's no guarantee giving Sam Donald with the roster that they would have had to play with, given the money he would have taken, could have won playoff games because they didn't last year and it would have been very similar. So they took a risk, which I respect is a risk going to work out. Time will tell. But it's pretty risky when three weeks in when it's like, well, got CARSON Wentz and JJ's hurting in even you guys have to admit, if you're a Vikings fan, like, it's, it's cool. I mean our team's legit and if we had a high level quarterback, we'd probably win the super bowl, right? If I, if I gave you, if I gave you like Dak Prescott, you'd be like, we're going to win 15 games. But it's like, what's it going to look like? Even this week? You should, I think you'd beat the Steelers. I actually loved the Steelers until I realized that was an international game. Like, oh, the Steelers are an underdog at home. And then someone's like, no, they're in Dublin. I'm like, yeah, don't like it as much anymore. Okay. Couple more. Big fan. In this age of no acknowledgement for bad takes, I highly respect for you owning it when proven incorrect. I specifically tuned in today to see if you would address your criticism of Johnny Morton. I don't have a question. Just want to say the three and out. Very entertaining. I don't get paid to be right or wrong, so it's like my, my job is to entertain and I'm just an opinionated guy. I don't ever make up takes. I thought it was very logical to go this Johnny Morton Experiment could not work. And after week one, you're like, God, this could be weird. And you watch in the last couple of weeks you're like, especially on Monday Night Football, calling plays that looked exactly like Ben Johnson. What was I supposed to say? Great job by Ben Johnny Morton, but watch out, he's going to shit the bed over the next. Like, no, I don't care. I don't understand why people get so tied to takes. This isn't like your job doesn't depend on being right or wrong. Right. We're all going to miss things. We're all, all going to have opinions and theories on things that are true and not true. And listen, does that mean Johnny Morton is the next Andy Reid? No, but he called an incredible game. I mean the trick plays, the goal line, touchdown handoff to the amen Ross St. Brown. And who knows, maybe they had that play. And if you're a Lions fan, maybe you guys have run that before. Some version of that. I feel like you have. But the coaching detail to that, where Jared Goff handed the ball to St. Brown vertically so he could pitch it instead of having to work it into his hands. That level of detail, like they're a well run operation. And I saw this clip from Dan Campbell, he's like, guys, I don't think you guys quite understand our best players. So he's saying, who? Sewell Goff, St. Brown, Gibbs Laporta, Aiden Branch are hardest working players. This is sports is never that complicated if your hardest worker. I saw it with the warriors when I lived in the Bay Area, like Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond, those guys were grinders. And then when they got Kevin, like all he did was want to play basketball. I saw it with the Giants with Matt Kane and Madison Bumgardner and Buster Posey and Hunter Pence. It's like championship teams, usually high level players, the best players. We saw a dynasty for 20 years. Who's like the hardest worker in the league? Tom freaking Brady. Like shocker. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are all time greats. They're also like absolutely obsessed with football, you know, so it's like they've done a really good job of building that team with high level guys that love football. And you know, Johnny Morton, he does have a blueprint these last couple years of the plays they've run. Now you never know like the right time to call him, but he was pretty dialed in the other night. I don't see how there would be any other take. I even thought when Colin came out, based on the hall of Fame game that they looked kind of discombobulated. I thought that was a little too premature. I'm like, I take nothing away from the hall of Fame game. But then the preseason kept going and then the week one happened. I was concerned. But that was a coaching clinic from Dan and his two coordinators. Because Dan sets the tone of, we're going to show up in this ring and we're going to fucking hit you right in the square in the jaw. And I dare you to swing back. Because if you swing back, we're going to swing again. Three more times. Multiple more jaw shots, uppercut and then a kidney shot. I dare you to swing again. Because we plan on. And that's what Dan Campbell brings, like what Jim Harbaugh brings, the fighter mentality. And then if his coordinators are right, as they were last year, sky's the limit. Obviously, you know, football's a one game situation. You have a bad playoff game, you lose. And they lost in Washington. But the team that we saw last night, if that team, now, it was hard because they were missing a bunch of bodies on defense in the playoff game, if I remember correctly. But if the Lions play like that, they're a threat to win Super Bowl. I mean, I think we'd all agree. Okay, last question. Do you think the NFL would ever explore a rule on game winning, tying field goals? I feel like kickers are going to be able to hit from further and further out in years to come if the current trend keeps going the way it is. It takes some fun out of the game. Basically, one chunk play from the offense and they're in position to win a game. Seems kind of crazy. I think maybe something like no game tying or winning field goals from longer than 50 is this crazy. We will end on this. I still don't feel like you're a lock to hit field goals, you know, especially as the early in the season. There's no weather as the season goes in these outdoor stadiums, especially in the Northeast or in the south where it rains and the wind in the Midwest where it's freezing cold. It is much more difficult to hit field goals, obviously in controlled environments in the dome. Now, one major factor. Was it the, Was it Bates last night? You kick it out of bounds, like you get a little too cute with the kickoff. They get the ball at the 40 yard line. So if you have a guy that can kick a 60 yard field goal, I don't have to get very far at all. So you kick it. Like if anything, it puts an Emphasis on kicking it in that, that window and tackling the guy somewhere around the 20 yard line because it can be done. The Rams were doing it all game. What they call it like they had a name for it. Greg Olson kept saying. But it's the emphasis on special teams. So I have no problem because I, you know, for every Brandon Aubrey I've seen a lot of kicks missed. We still see extra points missed every single week. But Curt missed a kick on Sunday night Football. Like people miss kicks. So I, I hear you. Like it's, it's tough to lose a game on a game winning field goal. But there is, I don't know, something exhilarating about even like a 45 yard field goal you can block it. I would say one of the coolest plays in this, I was put punt there too. A block field goal or block punt. And when the defense picks it up and starts going the other way, that, that is a, that's as entertaining of a play as there is in football. So I, I don't know. I mean how could you ban a 25 yard field goal if you're down two points? I got to try to score a touchdown. Like what? I'm not with you on that. I hear what you're saying. Like I get the logic on it, but I'm cool with the way it is right now. And I think we're a little numb. These guys have longer legs, not like actual longer legs, but being able to kick it longer. I don't think there are any law like Brandon Aubrey might not miss, but a lot of guys can. 52 yard field goal in November in Cleveland or Baltimore. Chicago wind and it's cold. They are no lock to make it.
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