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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - Eagles are Howie's team, Caleb needs to PROVE himself, Tommy Fleetwood finally wins
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The volume. What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully everyone's having a great day. Live here from Hawaii. God, what a. What a beautiful place. Not live actually, because I'm a podcaster so I'm recording it in the afternoon. Well not the. If it was. If you live in New York, it's 4:30 right now it'd be 10:30 at night. So there's six hour change from the East coast, three hour change from the west coast. It's like you're in a different little world over here. But I was like, you know what we had? We had Roseman. I probably set a record three trades on a Sunday, August 24th. I can't imagine that's ever been done before. We got some quarterback stuff going on. We got Shador Caleb I definitely want to touch on as well as just some overall thoughts when it comes to training camps. And I was going to wait to do a go low and some golf talk a little later this week, but Tommy Fleetwood finally gets over the hump. So just an awesome day for him. We will dive into why I think Tommy Fleetwood resonates with so many people. And yeah, so we'll do a little golf talk at the end as well as @golopod. We'll answer a couple questions for you as well. So we'll start off about 30 minutes of football, then probably 25 minutes of golf. The game plan will be we'll have a fantasy football podcast tomorrow that I recorded on Friday with one of our guys from the Fantasy Pros who it's the biggest fantasy podcast on the Internet. So we'll post that tomorrow and if anything else happens, I'll give some takes on what's going on around the National Football League. But buckle up. So we're not done creating content this week, even though I'm halfway. Not halfway, but a long way away. Make sure if you listen on Collins feed, you subscribe and YouTube page. We got you covered. Subscribe to that as well. But first, you know, I got to tell you about my friends. You know I got to tell you about my partners. 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I know he's made the John Metchie trade. There's probably a trade I'm missing. I mean, there's a chance he's made five or six trades this preseason. And I think the difference in Howie than the majority of these organizations is how he is able to take a big picture view of his roster. Why? Because he's not a coach. And so many coaches right now in the NFL have final say over their roster. And you can say, obviously you get emotional about your starters, the guys you draft, you'd be shocked how often their position coaches, which essentially on an NFL team, like, like for Howie, his scouts, those are his people. That's his staff. The assistant coaching staff is the head coaches people. It's why some organizations, the Niners, for example, their assistant coaches have a ton of juice in the draft. Why Kyle's the boss. So if Kyle wants to draft a guy, he is heavily influenced not by the scouting staff, but by his coaching staff. Well, how he's in charge, how he's in charge of the roster now come Sunday, how he's not calling the plays, he's not telling Vic Fangio or whoever, his offensive coordinator, specific plays to call. But during this period of time, no one has more say currently in the NFL in terms of a GM or a head coach than Howie Roseman. And these are the type moves when you're not emotional about your roster. Now some of them, they aren't like consequential, you're talking about seventh round picks for backups. But they are moves that a lot of coaches won't necessarily make. Especially when you're trading guys out because a position coach goes, I really love that guy. I've spent the last month and a half in OTAs or the last couple of years. That's my guy. Well, this is big business. No one gives a shit. So if he's not going to play on Sundays, see you later. And you watch the Cowboys documentary. Jimmie Johnson, pretty rare coach who could balance them both. He had the ability to be pretty cutthroat but also be very close with his teams. There's a small percentage of coaches in the history of the league that can do it. Obviously Bill Walsh was elite at it. Belichick for a long period of time and he's pretty freaking good at it. Most coaches get very emotionally tied to their players. And this is the time of year where it's like, what are we talking about? When you're talking about backups, when you're talking about rotational special teams players, this is the time to operate like baseball, where there's no emotional. They're all just widgets on a sheet. We're not talking about trading impact players on the field. And I don't think it's by happenstance or by coincidence that Howie has been running circles around the majority of the league now for several years. And you compare the Eagles to the Cowboys, which is, you know, Jerry becoming the owner, the gm, the pseudo coach. He's very emotionally tied to everything and he's obviously like the director and he's talked about this in that documentary. When it comes to. He likes the drama of it all, he's just too in the weeds. He's just too close to the sun. How he has this great balance of. Obviously he's very close to his star players, but if you're not like a high impact guy at any moment, this goes for coaching staff, goes for scouting staff. Trust me, I've been there. You can be replaced in a New York minute, and that benefits the team. And you hear these GMs talk about all the time that are like, I do what's in the best interest of the organization. Bullshit. Because how often they draft a guy in the second round, in the third round, and that guy gets chance after chance after chance, like, what are we doing? Like, why are we wasting time here? And that does not fly in Philadelphia. And one of their greatest strengths is having the GM run the roster is the emotional separation from the players. Yeah, I drafted you in the fourth round. I don't care. You're not good enough. See you later. And that's why when you watch them play over the last several years, when it works, it looks as good as any. That's why they've been to two Super Bowls in three years. Why they just won the last one. They're. They're technically not favored somehow. The Bills and the Ravens, who have never beat the Chiefs, are currently favored to win the Super Bowl. But why that? Why The Eagles are the nfc, you know, favorite. But I think that's a huge, huge advantage. And let's face it, Most of these GMs in the NFL don't have as much juice as you think they do just by their title. Why? Because the coach makes double or triple what they make. And it's just basic economics. When One guy makes $12 million and the other guy makes four. When we're, when we're complaining and we're arguing, who do you think is going to have final say when they both look at the owner? The owner is going to go with the guy he's paying most money. And I'm not even. I don't know how much Howie makes relative to Sirianni. And there's a chance it's because of Sirianni's job title. You know, even if Howie were to make $10 million a year in the highest page, maybe Sirianni makes 11, but we know who's in charge. And Sirianni is no dummy. He lets Howie do that and he doesn't argue about it because he knows it works. And I think it's a huge, huge advantage when it comes to the Philadelphia Eagles. And you know why? I think we'd all be stunned. It would take a rash of injuries for them not to be in the, the NFC Championship game. Another thing that I just want to get out there because I was thinking about this when I was flying here to Hawaii. I downloaded the Chiefs Bears game because I didn't watch it live on Friday night. And I saw a bunch of people have different takes and, you know, whether Caleb played well, whether he didn't. And then I saw Ben Johnson's quote of basically like calling the offensive execution on the first couple drives a complete embarrassment. And every industry changes over the course of time, right? Amazon didn't exist 20 years ago in the nature exists now. Why? Because they were selling books and now they literally sell everything that's delivered right to your door. But one thing that can't be disputed, when you do, when you order something off Amazon, it arrives within 12, 24 hours. Somehow my dumb ass orders things that like take six days. But my wife's really good at this. She presses a button and things there in half a day. It's why they run circles around every single company in America. And like, business is still pretty simple. Like, can you do something for me that I want? Do you provide a service that I'm willing to pay for an Amazon service? Let's just be real is as good as it gets. If you don't like it, you send it back, you press a button. It doesn't get any easier. They are so consumer friendly. And I think sometimes quarterback play, like the NFL is a lot different than it was 20, 25 years ago, right? The game. I'm watching some of that Cowboys documentary. I mean, the 49ers and Cowboys going at it. They were playing with slower, bigger, two down middle linebackers, Ken Norton Jr, Gary Plummer. The Cowboys played the Pittsburgh Steelers in the super bowl with Greg Lloyd. I mean these are 260 pound linebackers that aren't great space players but. But if you run the ball, you know between the tackles, they will meet whoever you are sending and fucking wreck their world. Those guys don't exist anymore, right? The badass middle linebackers are Fred Warner, who would have been considered small 25, 30 years ago in that era. Well, things changed. But at the end of the day, football still has a lot of similarities that it did back then. Can you be an efficient offense? Can you generate touchdowns in the red zone? Can you convert first downs more often than not? Can you get off the field on defense in the red zone? Are you a good third down, third down defense? Do you have a good pass rush? Are you good tackling team? Are you a well coached team? Do you have high level competitors? Like there are a lot of similarities. And while spread offense quarterbacks are looked upon differently than they were back in the day, and I would say teams are much more open minded when it comes to evaluating those players. Look at the best quarterback in the NFL, Patrick Mahomes. Where does he come from? Spread offense, Texas Tech. I remember Andy Reid told me, I was like, was that weird for you? Trying to evaluate this guy? You have west coast roots, which is like prototypical old school NFL. Under center with two running backs, a tight end, two wide receivers. To this guy running five wide receiver sets in college, he said, no, not at all. Actually it made it easier. I just siphoned the passes that he threw behind the line of scrimmage because those had little to no value in my evaluation of the player. But if he threw it 50 times a game and I removed those 40, those 10 passes, it was still 40 passes that I got to evaluate. So back in the day, when there's a quarterback coming out, Maybe they got 20, 22 attempts every single game in college. Now I get to watch a guy, even if he had 50, 55 attempts and only 80% of them matter to me, that's still 20, 30% more than I used to be able to evaluate guys in the 90s. I was like, damn, I never thought of it that way. And one thing that will never change with quarterback play in the NFL that is a lot different than college is you have to get rid of the football. Because when you are a great player in college, you can play make, you can ad lib, you can do shit that your opponents cannot do. There was a reason Johnny Manziel beat Nick Saban in the middle of his dynasty. Because in college you can just play, make and you can do things. That doesn't translate to the NFL. It has a couple times. Russell Wilson I would say is an outlier player. He was a playmaking guy outside the tackle box. That's what made him up. I mean it's gotten weird at the end but a potential future hall of Famer and for a stretch of six or seven years one of the best players in the NFL. He was truly one of the great playmakers in the NFL. Deshaun Watson for about two and a half seasons was very similar. He would destroy you ad libbing on the fly, making plays outside the pocket. Both those guys held onto the ball way too long. They drove offensive coordinators nuts because two step, three step, get rid of the ball. They did not do that. They could not do that. But they were so great at their playmaking ability. They made pro Bowls and a guy like Russell Wilson, you know, went to the, to the super bowl twice. Caleb Williams, I'll promise you this, I give Caleb Williams eight to 10 games to prove to Ben Johnson that this can work. Because middle cuff, you're what we have seen this time and time again in this modern day NFL. You get to going into year three to prove you can play or they will get rid of you. Trey Lance, they traded three first round picks for the guy and he was on a Different Team Week 1, Year 3 Anthony Richardson honestly by the time you're listening to this could be on another team. He was given two seasons. Now Ben Johnson had nothing to do with Caleb as rookie season but this year, you know, if I was a betting man, if it goes well, obviously he's going to be the quarterback there for a while. But if it doesn't, he's not getting some multi year leash. That is not the way it works. And Ben Johnson said the other day that was basically an embarrassment. That's a joke. I thought we were past this. And every single time he talks about the backup quarterback. And listen, I'm not acting like Tyson Badgett is the next stud player but I know this. The head coach likes him a lot, talks about him glowingly and then when you watch him play, you know what he does? He gets rid of the ball quickly. You know what Caleb's problem is? And this is what made him a great prospect in college, at least to many, especially in the media. That kind of, you know, give each other a reach around when you make plays and Listen, I get excited for this too. When you kind of run around and make plays in the NFL that doesn't consistently work. Especially when you're head coach. And this is Shador Sanders problem like you watch your in college, it's awesome. He is an instinctive player and he can make a lot of plays. But in the construct of an, construct of an NFL offense, Kevin Stefanski, the Shanahans, they like everything to be timed to the second couple steps. I want you the ball out of your hand because I'm designing the play, I'm in charge. Unless you're Russell Wilson in his prime, you're not good enough to figure this shit out just on your own. And Shador definitely isn't the physical talent of Caleb Williams. But those guys ad lib ability is like, it's why Shador Sanders, the fourth string quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, people are like, oh, he's way better than Dylan Gabriel. And listen, I thought he was a better prospect than Dylan Gabriel. But when you watch Dylan Gabriel in the two games that he's played in the preseason, the ball is in his hands when it's, when he's under center and pretty quickly it's out of his hands. You know who likes that? The head coach. You know who's calling plays in most of these places? The head coach, Ben Johnson. The offense is his baby. And you watch Caleb Williams, there is no disputing his arm talent. And I'm a sucker for arm talent. I like it just like the next guy. I come from, Andy Reid, we like big arms. But I watch Patrick Mahomes in that game and listen, I'm not comparing Patrick Mahomes to Caleb Williams. That wouldn't be fair to Caleb. Patrick Mahomes is already probably a top five quarterback of all time. I would say that Patrick has basically mastered the position because his playmaking is elite. But what he's great at and what makes him an all time great is on third and six when you need those seven yards and the play is called and is executed, that ball will be out of his hands. On, on the guy's hand like that, there is no, oh, I'm just going to run out of a pocket that doesn't need to be run out of. You cannot play offense at the highest level and be a good player. When you do that and you watch Shador, obviously he's a rookie and Listen, he's a 5th round pick but that's the reason that he's not above Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel, the play's called, he'll run it and the ball's out of his hands quickly. And listen, sometimes people in the front office, in the scouting community, we argue with coaching staffs over that, but they value that to the highest degree. And when I watch Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson, the offense, no different than Kyle, no different than Sean Payton, no different than some of these highly tightly wound coaches. The one thing, like, I didn't know Ben Johnson that well when he was the offensive coordinator of the Detroit Lions. Why he talked once a week. Dan Campbell was truly the voice of the team. And honestly, I thought Ben Johnson was kind of reserved. Like, didn't. One thing I've really seen, his personality being the head coach, like, he's kind of a hard ass. Like, he actually has some Dan Campbell in him. Kind of has a little Kyle Shanahan into him. Like, I was like, damn, he's kind of grown on me. But one thing that will not fly is when the play is called. And even he said this the other day after the game against the Chiefs, when they ask him, like, that sack that happened to Caleb, like, what do you think? He's like, well, he had the ball in his hands for five seconds. Clearly that was on him. I might be screwing up the quote a little bit, but ultimately a point is this. It's not going to fly. Holding onto the football, it 100% will not be tolerated there. And if the Bears do not do well offensively and if it looks, and I'm not trying to just overreact purely because they're playing the Chiefs, who are, I don't know, dominated the league for seven straight years and are a defensive team, that's a tough matchup, Caleb should get his ass kicked. But when they're playing other teams, especially Week 1 against the Minnesota Vikings, Brian Flores, who's one of the better defensive coordinators, and if he's holding that ball, Sam Darnold did this last year, holding on to that thing, holding on to that thing, it ain't going to work. And anyone saying that it will is either disingenuous about it because they have like an agenda and they want to be proven right. I would have drafted Caleb Williams number one overall too. So I'm not like anti Caleb here. I don't blame them at all for picking them, though. It's their jobs to get it right. Not to have, like the media and people that talk about football give them a thumbs up. So like, you watch Jaden Daniels, the ball's out of his hands when it needs to be out of his hands. You Watch, Caleb. Sometimes it is and sometimes it is not. And we're going to find out can that be tied or not? Because we know Ben Johnson is good at coaching offense, and we know his offense works, and we know they have a really good offensive line. We know they have good offensive pieces. But when you hold on to the football and take sacks, one thing I think that age poorly is we all thought that Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks were like, idiots for getting down on Russell. When behind the scenes, they kept saying, like, not all these sacks are on our offensive line. Our offensive line doesn't suck as much as you guys think. It's hard to run offense with this little guy. And it was always like, shut up, Pete. You got Russell Wilson. And looking back, I can imagine that was a little frustrating, even though there were times like, well, he's so good, you got to deal with it. And you guys were winning. But when you don't win. And toward the end, they weren't winning as much like Russell, you're done. See ya. And this is Ben Johnson. And draft this guy. So you hold on to that football and that offense doesn't work. See you later. So that's just something to keep. I give it till Halloween. If it's not going well. I mean, it would be like he's not getting all year to start. If it's going shitty, if it's going well. Yeah, 100%. But they gave that contract. The more and more I thought about them giving the contract to the backup is like, you don't fuck with the quarterback, even if you're, you know, obviously Ben Johnson. Ryan Poles isn't doing anything. Ben Johnson, especially these six months, that doesn't want to happen. But specifically with the quarterback, even in places where the GM has a lot of juice, they will lean on their coaching staff when it comes to that position. That head coach loves that backup quarterback because they did not need to give him a contract and they did that one. I mean, he's an asset, He's a good player, but also, like, we need a contingency plan if this gets weird. I know everyone's throwing us a parade, and I'm guilty of this, too. For that one drive he had against the Bills playing the Twos with, you know, heavy legs. How about when they played the Chiefs when they tried? It was a fucking embarrassment. A couple other quick things. The preseason just needs to go away. Let's be real. The preseason used to be kind of entertaining because it would accelerate as the weeks went on. Like the first week, your Starters would get a couple series. Second week, your starters would get a quarter. Third week, they would get a half. So when there were four preseason games, at least you would chime in, know you were getting that. Every team did it. It was like universally no one did the McVeigh where no one plays. Now it feels like everyone does it and no one takes the preseason seriously. Now, I'm not naive enough, I get it. You sell 20 season, like you sell 20 games to the networks. You sell 8 or 9 game, technically 10 game packages to your season ticket holders. So you need something to show in August, right? There's a reason, like the Bears preseason game or, you know, any of the nationally televised preseason games are blowing out everything else on television. So I'm not just saying you can go away, but whatever's going on currently in these preseason games, because I was. I went for a little run this morning in Hawaii and I put on a couple of my guys, Kawakami and Matt Barrows, who covered the 49ers, and they were just at this Charger 49 or preseason game, and Barrows was like, I've been covering the NFL for two and a half decades. That's as bad of a couple quarters to start that game as you'll ever see. It's because even Jim Harbaugh and Kyle Shanahan, who are old school old like, you know, wired from like the 80s and the 90s, the way they think about football don't take it seriously, let alone the McVeighs of the world. It's an awful product. Now, it still works. It still gets a lot of people to watch. But when you're selling these tickets as part of the package, we got to figure out a way. I don't have a solution, but I do feel like the preseason, a couple years ago, once people started following McVay, it's like, okay, it doesn't matter as much. We don't need to be as dialed in now. I feel the product is atrocious. It's just like, what the fuck are we watching here? So I don't know. I mean, could we get some. Some of those joint practices, could we get those on television, something? Because I do think that would work. Whatever this preseason situation is, watching these second and third stringers in the fourth quarter as someone that makes his living off football, who loves football, it's just. It's unwatchable. It truly is. And last but not least, when it comes to the preseason and these guys getting cut, I've been that guy that had to back in the day, I was kind of right at the transition between playbooks, iPads, you kind of had to buy the. By the time I was kind of moving up, up the, you know, totem pole on in the organization, they had both. But I've been the guy that meets the person in the training room in the parking lot and takes them up to the head coach, the GM's room. It sucks. I've been the guy that drives that guy to the airport or the train station when they get cut. It's a miserable experience. And as my life went on, I've been fired a couple times. And I stand by this, and I will say this till the day I die. Sometimes these moments are the best thing that ever happened to you. And in some walks of life, when you get fired, when you go bankrupt or whatever, you never recover. And if mentally you can't get over it, you're fucked. You're going to be. I've said these stories before. I know people that were friends with my dad. You know, back in the 80s and the 70s, there were, you know, society like economics, economic, like when it comes to the business world can be very fickle and things like recessions would destroy people. Some people could bounce right back because they were mentally tough. They were just willing to keep swinging. Basically. They didn't know if they could, you know, kind of build themselves back. But I think football is very similar. There have been a ton of players in the hall of Fame who have been cut early on in their career. There are a ton of guys that go to the Pro bowl that become all Pros. They get cut and spend times with the practice squad. Sometimes there's nothing you can do when you're on a team and you get cut. It's not even your fault. You just weren't either, given the opportunities. Honestly, with that given team, you never had a chance because of the numbers game, that these guys were already making a lot of money, that they had already slotted in you as a practice squad player before preseason even started. But if you go in with the mentality that like, I got time on my side and there is no sport and there is no industry where opportunities are guaranteed, I mean, guaranteed to arise, right? You know for a fact, even healthy teams, you don't even need to be the 49ers guys are going to get injured. So when you get cut and they add you to the practice squad, which is a big financial difference, I think I saw the veteran minimum. So if you're like the 53rd guy on the roster, even if you're not dressing on game day, you're going to make 850k. And if you're. I used to say that was a shitload of money, but nowadays some of these guys with nil, like Quinn Ewers on the practice squad like he was making several million dollars. So even if he did make the 53, make it 850k is, you know, taking a pay cut, but is what it is. But my point is like no one's going to feel sorry for you even if you're not dressing on game day and you're on the 53 man roster. But being on the practice squad sucks. I mean there's no way you don't travel with the team for the most part your practice situation, you're not taking any meaningful reps, you're on the scout team and you can be removed at any moment. But those guys consistently get added to the 53 man roster. And whether it's with your team, whether it's with another team, it's almost guaranteed to happen. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I would imagine guys that start week one on the practice squad over half get elevated throughout the course of the season and a strong percentage of those guys become contributing players, whether it's special teams, whether it's rotation players on offense or defense, and whether by the end of the year, if there's some injuries, you become a starter and then within a couple years not only are you a starter, you're a high end starter and they give you a contract extension. So. So I'm sure we'll see it on Hard Knocks. Guys getting cut, it's an emotional time. You feel like you've worked your whole life. I mean, for the most part, if you're a rookie guy and you've been drafted in the fifth or sixth round and you get cut, you've never failed, right? Most of the, I guess now with the transfer portal, some of them have had different paths than years previous. But a lot of these guys are used to being the star guy in high school, getting 7, 8, 10 scholarship offers from all the sweet schools, putting on a hat in front of everybody and then going on to be a good player in college. And whether you're a great NFL prospect or not, the reason you go in the fourth or the fifth round, but you're used to succeeding. And even if it's like, is it really that negative of a thing to get drafted in the fourth round, but those guys get cut and a lot of These guys are going to get cut over the course of the next 24, 48 hours, and it's just not the end of the world. It really isn't. Honestly. It's like the start of an opportunity. Because if that team goes, I want you to be on my practice squad. And if you've done. Done a good enough job in the preseason, every team is evaluating these players. So they go, seven, eight teams are calling you like, I want you on my practice squad as well. Because if you get cut and you pass through waivers, you can join any practice squad you want. You are not, like, controlled by that team. You don't have to. Let's just use the Eagles, for example. If I was on the Eagles and they drafted me in the sixth round, they cut me, I make it through waivers, I don't have to go back on the Eagles practice squad. Even if how he wants me. I can go, let's say the packers, let's say the Rams, let's say that. Let's say the 49ers call me and I'm a wide receiver, and they go, hey, I want you on my practice squad. You look around you, they got a million injuries. You go to their practice squad because you're a couple of weeks away, like, you might be their starting wide receiver. So it just. It's a unique industry that way. Most places that when you're young and you get kicked to the curb, it's a big kick in the nuts, and it sucks. And listen, I'm not saying that you're not able to be, like, emotionally down if you're a player. It's. It's a tough time. It's a. It's a very unique experience to go through, given that it's such a public job and you've always, for the most part, probably had success. But I promise you this. We're going to see so many of these guys cut over the next couple days. We're going to be hearing their names. Not just this season, but for seasons to come. The rivalries, the marching bands, the upset Saturdays just got way more fun. College football is back, baby. Think you know the game? Put your college football knowledge to the test with DraftKings sportsbook and turn your picks into big payouts. Live betting during the game, rivalry week, odds boost, and so much more. DraftKings sportsbook has you covered. Here's the thing. 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Ryan Seacrest
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John Middlekauff
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Jasmine Crockett
I think Democrats have for a very long time allowed Republicans to play them. So essentially Republicans came up with a narrative and Democrats decided to play into that. And that only hurt the Democrats.
- [34:41]
Katie Couric
I'm Kitty Couric. Jasmine Crockett, Democratic representative of Texas, is not known for holding back, and our recent chat on Next Question is no exception. But when you hear how she got to where she is, her intensity makes perfect sense.
- [34:57]
Jasmine Crockett
It's just hard to imagine a world where you don't have enough people that care to do right by people. And so that same passion that carried me through as a public defender, that led me to want to change laws and thinking about the harm that will happen not just to my constituents, but just generally. Like I carry that weight with me.
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Katie Couric
Because you've seen it up close.
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Jasmine Crockett
Yeah.
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Katie Couric
Listen to next question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ebony
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color, color who faced it all, childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more, and found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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John Middlekauff
Okay, let's transition to a little golf talk, a little Go Low podcast. I was like, let's just combine these two is probably the easiest thing to do. My game plan earlier in the week was to wait a couple days, but we had such a big Sunday that I was like, you know what? Let's, let's, let's do a little bit because Tommy Fleetwood finally gets over the hump wins his first PGA Tour. Eventually just a couple weeks removed. Let's just dive right into it. I. I thought his reaction after beating Justin or after losing, excuse me, losing to Justin Rose, his good friend, several weeks ago, is one of the better moments in sports this year. And I think, and I was thinking about it today when I was on a walk that, and I've said this before, when you resonate with people, obviously the good times, I mean, watching this cowboy documentary, you know, Aikman, Irvin, Emmett, Jimmy. I mean, I grew up on the 49ers with Steve Young and Jerry Rice or had a front row seat to Buster Posey and Steph Curry. When you're winning and you're a good guy and you're fun at the highest level, people are going to love you. But when you lose, especially if you lose a lot, there are two paths you can take. You can either. Either be the guy that everyone hates and, like, I'm glad you lost, or. And golf has that, you know, Colin Morikawa this year, and I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but had a moment against Russell Henley at Bay Hill where it's like, you lost. It sucks. Like, we all watched. But, like, when you talk with the quote, unquote media after, it's not about golf.com or someone writing in Sports Illustrated in 1996 about your devastating loss and about your emotions. No one's consuming any of that stuff. We're just watching on tv. And that video then will go viral on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, you name it. And people will be moved by you talking about your loss. It's hard to see. And Colin Morikawa, as he said, like, I don't owe you guys anything, essentially says double middle fingers. F you. I don't owe you shit. If I don't feel like talking to you after, I won't. You know who that does a disservice to us? The consumer, the fans. Why? Because I want to hear from you after a loss. It actually might make me like you more. So Tommy Fleetwood, who had made $30 million plus in his career before today and had never won a tournament, is not from America we can't relate to. Oh, that guy that grew up in Los Angeles or the guy that grew up in Fort Worth, Texas, or that guy that grew up in pa. No, he's from across the pond. But him will, his willingness to speak after these moments. And as he did with Justin Rose, his second devastating loss this season, he had already lost to Keegan Bradley when He had a one shot lead going into 18. He loses to Justin Rhodes when he had a multiple shot lead on the back nine, who is literally one of his good friends. And he's in tears after the tournament. That resonates with people. You're like, God, this, what a good, what a. That sucks. You feel for him. People have always said this. Listen, people might view Greg Norman as a douchebag, but like when he lost when he blew a six shot lead at Augusta to Nick Faldo, he spoke after. And there was a reason. Like that shark logo was on a lot of our shoulders in the 90s. He resonated with people. I've said this about politicians forever. You either resonate with people or you don't like. Kamala Harris lost for one reason and one reason only, people didn't like her. This isn't a complicated formula. It's no different with our athletes. Now if you're good and you're winning a lot, we will look past your personality. But when you're not viewed as, quote unquote, a winner, we kind of nitpick you. It's like, is this a good guy? Should we like this guy? Should we root for this guy? And Tommy Fleetwood has been one of those people that is like, seems like, what an awesome human being, what a good person, what an excellent player. Why can't he win? And it felt like almost like a tragic story. He was never going to win. And some people, Scotty Sheffield's like, is he going to win like 50 times? Tiger woods won 90 times. Even Phil after a while is like, God, this guy just wins a lot. And you watch Tommy Fleetwood and I kind of came to grips. He just might never win. Someone asked me the other day on social media, do you think he's going to win this weekend? I was like, no, I don't. Not because I don't want him to win. Not because it wouldn't be an unreal story, but because I just don't think he can do it after watching his devastating losses. And you know what shows you? Finau said this a couple years ago. A winner is just a loser that kept on trying. And I think the one respectable part about Tommy Fleetwood is he kind of just kept showing up with the same attitude and playing really well. He didn't pout, he didn't act like some pompous asshole, which, let's face it, golfers can. And I mean all these guys, the highest level, live in big mansions, fly private jets, live elite lives, and most of them don't. I Would say contribute much to the revenue generation that provides that life. It was my biggest issue with Colin Morikawa. I don't owe you anything, Colin. This is not about the scribe sitting there in front of you in the press conference. This is about everyone that watches you. This is about people that follow the sport. Those 4 or 5 million people that every week non major that watch these events. And there was a reason today that in Atlanta, Georgia, they started chanting for a guy from the uk, Tommy. Tommy. They would not have done that for Patrick Cantlay. They would not have done that for Russell Henley, who I'm pretty sure played in Georgia, right, as a Southern guy. They did that because emotionally they were all invested into Tommy's story. No different than this year. If, like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Kyle Shanahan or a guy like that finally gets over the hump, it'll be powerful. And the NFL has done a great job of this over the years. They mandate their guys talk. It's not just about get a microphone in front of Sirianni or Andy Reid after they win the Super Bowl. What's Cam Newton saying after he lost the Super Bowl? What did Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey say after they lost the Super Bowl? You know why? Because most of us humans can relate to losing, can relate to struggle, whether it's in a PGA golf tournament or whether it's in our everyday lives. And I actually think Tommy Fleetwood, I am jealous that he's not an American player. I say this as someone that loves this country. I like Europeans Ryder cup team and specifically him. He honestly feels. And listen, we're pretty lucky with Scotty, who's a great guy and obviously an elite player who. There was a moment today I flipped on the TV, he was two shots back and going to hole 15. And it was like, if he birdies this hole, Tommy, this is going to be a problem. Tommy's going to lose to Scotty Scheffler Tour Championship. And Scotty hid in the water and kind of ended his chances. But I just thought that was a really cool moment. And for really what seems like by all accounts, you know, this isn't one of those Tiger. Well, it's like it was the Buick in Nike's marketing campaign. Like, had some issues off the field. Like, was a guy that you kind of had to keep an eye on, you know, has had some problems. Phil, a lot of people say, and I like Phil, you know, could be a little Bill, like a politician, you know, a lot of smiles, a lot of handshakes. And says some different things when the cameras are off. Listen, I don't know. I don't know these guys personally, but, like, you listen to enough people and know enough people work in the world. I do. You hear different things. You talk to everybody publicly, privately. The way they talk about Tommy Fleetwood, honestly, parallels a lot of Scotty Scheffler. Just. Just seems like a great guy. And if you're going to win your first tournament over here in the States, pretty cool that it happens for $10 million. You know, it's not quite what it used to be, $25 million, but you're going to win a tournament, $10 million. And that. That moment where his. His stepson came running on the course and hugged him on 18 and was in tears. There's just a human element at the end of the day. This is. This is entertainment. And I saw Rhys Davis say this about Lee Corso, who is obviously retiring and done. I think he's going to make one last appearance at Ohio State. Texas is like, this is showbiz. This is entertainment. Football's our vehicle. Like, golf's the vehicle here, but this is all entertainment. That's the business model. And some guys get it. Tommy Fleetwood and obviously some guys on our side here in America clearly do not. And it makes you smile. That big win for the good guys. Speaking about the good guys, John Rahm and Bryson DeChambeau, the live team championship came down between the. This is what if you're live and you paid these premiums for everybody a couple years ago when they first started and DJ started winning everything, like, that's how you want to start. You want the guys you're paying the most money to and your biggest stars, which are obviously Bryson's their biggest star, and I would say John Rom is their second biggest star to be your most important players. And those guys going at it today in their team format with Terrell Haddon and Paul Casey, watched some of it. John Rahm and his squad ended up winning. But, like, that is the way for this thing to progress. You need your best players and your biggest stars to win a lot. It basically has to become tennis, like with Roger Federer or, you know, Pete Sampras or Rafael Nadal. And you need your top guys to win all the time. And if they do, people are going to be interested. And Bryson DeChambeau going at it with John Rom, like, that was pretty good theater down the stretch. Bryson doing fist pumps, John Rom making big birdies. And that's the way this thing is going to have a chance because those two guys are under contract again in 2026 and they are the two most important players on live in terms of the national scale. They're both going to be playing at the Ryder Cup. Obviously Bryson's. I mean you could argue behind Scotty, especially at Beth Page. Our second best player is a guy that's going to play. You know, Bryson and John Rahm are five match guys. They play both matches Thursday, they play both matches Friday and obviously they play singles. And depending on how it's going for the Europeans, like John Rom's a guy you can throw at first. I would imagine Scotty Scheffler would go well, I guess if Keegan Bradley's on the team. Keegan potentially go first in singles but you know, Bryson's going to be one of our most important guys. So good to see those guys playing well. The lift season ends and you know Rom won $18 million last last week. I would imagine his team, you know, I know this. If I play for Liv and you're like, what teams do you like? That first year you'd want to be a part of DJs. He had a ton of momentum. Pat Perez, those guys profited all the way to the bank right now. And next year you want to be on Bryson or Jon Rahm squad because those guys are monsters and really quick on the Ryder cup thing. The Europeans look pretty good. Obviously Tommy's in elite form. John Roms playing great. You know, you know, Rory will be ready. Rose, Bobby McIntyre. Their squad looks good. I do think from American standpoint, I don't even think it's an argument anymore. Keegan Bradley's on the team and when you look at the top six that got announced last week because of the points or earlier this week, we got six spots up for grabs and we know Justin Thomas is on the team. I think at this point in time, you know, Cameron Young's on the team. I think Patrick Cantlay listen little douchey I would say not someone that most people root for. But if in this event I want him on my team, he takes he. He was one of our better players a couple years ago in Rome. The no hat Pat like he's just kind of into it. So I Annie's boys was Ander. I think Keegan that's four then I think you got a couple spots. And listen, I'm not trying to kick Colin Morikawa when he's down. I do think he's had an embarrassing year. Not just on the course relative to his standards, but that moment earlier was just, was just bizarre. Like, listen, I didn't love Rory storming off when he lost to Bryson, but like, he's Rory McElroy and he's one of the most important people when it comes to the business element of this sport. Call Mark. How was simply is not. He would not be on my team. I would leave him off. And I do think right now, I think there's a 50, 50 chance that he does not make it because I think Ben Griffin is going to be on the team and then I think Sam Burns who's boys with Scotty. Like, this is a unique event where like guys like Scotty scheffler and Rory McElroy, they got juice. So if Scotty goes, I want to play with him. I like playing with him. And Sam Burns is good. I mean, who are we, what are we really talking about? I think Colin Morkawa's spot is in major, major jeopardy. And if Keegan does pick himself, which at this point in time feels like, I don't know, borderline lock, I would say that Collins Dunzo. And I think it's the right choice. So to me you got, you know, your top six is Harris English JJ Spawn. Russell Henley, Scottie Scheffler, Xander Schoffley. And then my next six is Justin Thomas, Keegan Bradley, Cameron Young, Ben Griffin, Sam Burns and Patrick Cantlay. And if I had to guess right now, that that would be the team that I think ends up getting in. Okay, real talk. Ever have one of those need it right now moments? Like the dog just chewed through a leash again. A kid's school project needs glitter glue tonight and somehow the toilet paper is gone. Yeah, that moment has happened to everyone. That's where Walmart Express Delivery comes in. Clutch. Get all that pet stuff, school stuff, household stuff, all the stuff in as fast as one hour. One hour. That means chargers, diapers, candles, light bulbs, laundry detergent, real life rescue items. And it's all from Walmart. Just hop on the app, order what's needed, and boom, it's at the door before a toddler melts down or before halftime and is even over. 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Ryan Seacrest
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Jasmine Crockett
I think Democrats have for a very long time allowed Republicans to play them. So essentially Republicans came up with a narrative and Democrats decided to play into that. And that only hurt the Democrats.
- [52:20]
Katie Couric
I'm Kitty Couric. Jasmine Crockett, Democratic representative of Texas, is not known for holding back, and our recent chat on Next Question is no exception. But when you hear how she got to where she is, her intensity makes perfect sense.
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Jasmine Crockett
It's just hard to imagine a world where you don't have enough people that care to do right by people. And so that same passion that carried me through as a public defender, that led me to want to change laws and thinking about the harm that will happen not just to my constituents, but just generally like I carry that weight with me because you've seen it up close. Yeah.
- [53:04]
Katie Couric
Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ebony
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would change, challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more and found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite favorite shows.
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John Middlekauff
Let's do a Couple quick at golopod @ golopod Instagram comments really quick this is from Paul. Please address Cantley. I kept him out of my mind since he was a good few. He was a good few years ago today was horrible and annoying. He's a tough player to watch. He really is. And like I said, this is entertainment. I mean, part of the reason golf boomed to another economic level is because Tiger is one of the most entertaining athletes I've ever watched. Even if you didn't like golf, people watched the number said so, right? Most of us watch Michael Jordan, Steph Curry, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. Golf's a niche sport. You're not guaranteed to get the casual sportsman to watch. Tiger broke through that cantlay is everything that golf was pre Tiger. It's like, oh, douchey country club rich kids can't lay is wearing like Goldman Sachs hats. He plays slow as molasses. He for as enjoyable and as cool as it was watching in the Ryder Cup a couple years ago, which I liked. When you watch him in a PGA Tour event, it can be hard. And you know what we never talk about is Joe La Cava. Once Tiger's leg got fucked up and he essentially kind of retired. I guess he also tore his Achilles and he's got a million injuries. He told Joe LaCava, like, bro, you just, if you want to keep working, you got my blessing. Of all the bags he could have joined, he joined that guy's. But you went from Tiger woods to Patrick Cantlay. And listen, Patrick Cantlay. Financially, it's a good bag to be on. You're going to make a lot of money. Not necessarily this year, but like, maybe he's cooler in person than he feels like as a player, but God, it's a tough player to watch type guys that Koepka and DJ used to just despise go so slow. And here's the thing in golf, when you're playing a twosome, especially at the highest level, and you've heard, you heard announcers say this. If one guy's on the right side of the fairway and the other guy's on the left side of the fairway, if you out drove them by 5 yards, 10 yards, so he's hitting first, you can start your routine while he's hitting. These guys now especially guy like Cantley, just sit there and wait, sit there and wait, sit there and wait. And then they finally go and it just takes so long it's hard to watch. It really is. Big fan of both your pods. Have you seen the video of Tiger out driving rigs from his knees? Do you have any thoughts? In the video, Tiger is the goat and still seems like one of the guys out there. Do you think most tour pros could drive a low handicap from their knees? I did. I would say Riggs, depending on how his game is, that I don't think Riggs hits that far. So if Riggs is driving at 250 yards, do I think Tiger, who's I'm sure done it more than most because he had back injuries and leg injuries, he's probably just had to hit balls from his knees. Do I think if you just grab Patrick Cantlay or Tommy Fleetwood, could they hit a drive from their knees 260 yards? It might take them some time. I think Tiger is kind of unique. You know, he's the king of like, remember his commercials, bouncing the ball? I just think he spent so much time, most of his life with a golf club in his hands, he could probably do most things that the best players cannot do. I've never played until April of this year at a bachelor party. Played two courses in Hilton Head, South Carolina. Let's say the golf bug has hit me. Brought a regular starter setup of flight clubs from DSG the day before the trip and it's been my greatest purchase of this year. My question is, would a stiffer shaft help with consistency? Reason being my friend suggested I need a stiffer shaft because my swing is too fast. I'm a former college baseball player, so that may play a part. I would say if you're swinging quick or hard or fast and you have regular shafts, it's definitely going to impact you. So if you do swing your former college athlete with pretty good club head speed that a stiff shaft will do you well. Now just because you hit the ball way right or way left, getting a stiffer shaft may not fix that. But once you dial in whatever you got going on, it will definitely benefit you. So to me, a stiffer shaft when I. And I'm no like tailor made club rep here, but if you swing hard, you cannot play with regular shafts. It will be impossible to play over under eight and a half majors for Scottie Scheffler. To me I'd pick the number of like, I would say nine. Feels about right. I mean he's got four. So nine would be five more. I mean five alone would be. Koepka's career would be an incredible accomplishment. What do you think Liv's golf future looks like? I don't watch it, but from my outside perspective it seems to be stuck in neutral. A middle till product that struggles with viewers. How are they going to get a new audience and grow from there? I heard rumors of them signing a few players this offseason like Finau or Jason Day, but I don't see how that raises the stakes. I would say if they sign more players. Because I asked Scott o', Neill, I'm like, when me and Colin were interviewing him, I'm like, are signing PGA Tour players still an option? He said 100%. So if you sign Tony Finauer, Jason Day, I don't think it's not for. As a TV product. It's not working as a live product going there, it is cool. I'm saying that as some. That's an unbiased opinion. Right. Obviously they've paid money for advertisements here, but if I wouldn't have gone to the event, I couldn't speak to it. You go to the event, it is cool. I do understand why the players on that tour consistently say that, but no one is watching on tv. We've seen the numbers and I'm with you. I don't think adding Tony Finau or Jason Day does much, but if you take Tony Finaul and Jason Day, like let's. Let's be real. The Tour Championship today, would it have been better for the field? If John Rom, if Bryson Dechambeau, if Terrell Haddon, if Joaquin NEIMAN, if assuming D.J. and Brooks, who did not have great seasons, but guys like that were there or potentially there? Yes. So how many times can you take players away from the PGA Tour? This is why when I ask Scott o', Neal, the only thing I care about is how do we get together. Look, I don't care about any of this anymore. I just want to see these guys in some sort of unified front and they. Here's my ultimate take is Yasser, who is the right hand man for the prince in Saudi, loves golf, like is a golf addict. So I'm sure I'd be friends with the guy if I ever met him. He is addicted to this team concept and obviously he tried to get Jay to do business with him. Whatever. I don't know. Couple years ago and for a while and Jay wouldn't take him seriously. That's why Jay got kicked to the curb, because Jay got fat and happy and I would say created this whole mess. If he would have been willing to play ball, I'll tell you who would have Brian roll up, who come from the NFL. He would have taken the. Who's this Yasser from the Piff. The thing with like trillions of dollars. Yeah, we should. We should probably talk here about. About golf. But that created the message and we could have avoided this situation that they're in. But I think he's dead set on this team golf. And I think that's a big issue. And one thing, you know, being at that live event with some people that know some things, is there any sort of ability to like, you let some of our guys start playing again and you like, we allow you guys just send a couple PGA Tour teams, maybe one or two events throughout the season. Like, can't we. It's called business. Like we got some players that you want. So. And we got like, like how long can you go at the rate in which you're going? And that's where I don't know, the rubber is about to meet the road. And if they keep stealing players, even if it's like, oh, Jason Day, Tony Fino, don't totally matter how many players can you steal? So I don't know. I don't have a great answer for you, but it's not going away. At least next year. I love your content and opinions on golf in the NFL. Simple question. Favorite all time golfer, Favorite all time NFL player. Phil Mickelson and Troy Palomalu for me. Thanks. Tiger woods, easily number one. I would say football player. That's a great question. You know, probably when I was a kid, I mean, I love Steve Young so much, but as I've gotten older, I watched that Barry Sanders documentary. He was pretty freaking awesome. It's weird. The packers, when Favre got there, started beating the Niners when I was a kid and it really devastated me, honestly. Made me sad. I probably cried in like 96, 97, 98. I think they beat him like four straight years. Obviously the packers went to back to back Super Bowls and he won a couple MVPs. But I loved watching Brett Ford play. I would say currently like watching Mahomes. Even in that preseason game against the Bears. There's just like, that's what it's supposed to look like. I like guys who are just mastered their craft. Like I'm listening to this Charlie Munger book. Like, you know, Bezos, Tiger, Tom, Mahomes. Like, I like the guys at the highest level. I hate Ohio State. I do respect what they do. I respect what they do. I'm not the biggest Notre Dame or Duke guy, but like, you get to a point like when you're the best, it's hard not to just respect it. Okay, last question. Do you think the PGA Tour will ever update their dress code and allow players to wear shorts? Seems to be an outdated rule. I was At Live Dallas when it was 100 plus outside and heard Dustin Johnson say, thank God they let us wear shorts. That's a great question. I mean, I, I'm a big believer in this. I grew up going to a country club. Where in the Sacramento Davis area. The cost, like $2,000 to join, yet their rules to walk into the clubhouse to eat dinner. It might have been Augusta. It was so stiff. It's like you are not allowed to wear jeans. Where are your Dockers? And it was just. That was universally agreed upon at country clubs. Whether you were at the nicest ones or the shittiest ones. That has completely changed. Someone commented on a video I put out recently was like, middle cop, tuck your shirt in. It's like, I'm not at Augusta. I'm playing golf. I'm relaxing. I'm having a good time. I'm not going to tuck my shirt in. This isn't 1997, like Olympic Club. That's their rules. I'm in a public golf course shooting some videos, having a cocktail, just having a good time. Relax, buddy. The nicest country club, at least the most expensive one, I guess. Bob Parsons, Scottsdale Nationalist but the second most expensive one in Scottsdale has zero rules. You literally can wear whatever you want. The Discovery Bay Properties, which has one in Palm Springs, which has one in Nashville, which has one at Yellowstone, which Tom Brady and all those guys are members at. From where I'm sitting right now is right down the road, McKenna, there are no rules. You can wear whatever you want. You know why? Because when I'm playing golf, I'm not working. I'm trying to relax. And this is. Times have changed, so I'm with you. On the PGA Tour, they allowed a couple years ago these guys to wear shorts in their practice rounds, right? Why? Because it's 110 degrees humidity in wherever in June, July, August. Why not do that during the regular rounds? Now some guys legs look better than others. It is a television product. But watching live, some of these guys like it all looks kind of normal. So I'm with you. I think that's, that's a move roll up could easily make. And the good thing is, is when you get this guy and I said this about Scott o' Neill and I will, I will reiterate this about roll up. The best thing these two organizations did, you could not bring in some stiff country club guy. Why? Because they live in kind of this myopic, sheltered, just little bubble. It's like it's hard for them to relate to anything Outside of what they're used to in the golf world, neither of these guys play golf. Neither of these guys care. You know what the NFL cares about? Money. Business. That's all old rules. They will pivot and change on a dime. So if you told me next year or in two years that rule has changed, I would 100%. If these players go to roll up and say we don't want to wear pants anymore, it's a done deal. Now, if you're Nike, if you're some of these brands, Travis, Matthew, whoever is paying these guys millions of dollars for their yearly wardrobe deal, I don't know exactly how that works. Maybe that's a little more complicated. But why would they care? Most human beings, Whether you're in Dallas, whether you're in Arizona, whether you're in Florida in the summer, if I'm going to buy a pair of, you name it, Nike, Travis Matthews, whatever the brand is, I'm going to wear shorts in the summer. This isn't the mob. It's like when Tony Soprano or James Gandolfini, he said like his first year shooting that, that the Sopranos blew up in the mafia community. And he got a call. He said like 11 o' clock at night and he picks up in this kind of raspy old Italian voice. The guy simply said the don never puts on shorts. And he realized it was coming from like a mob boss telling him, like, you're the boss. You don't wear shorts. You wear pants all the time. He said he never wore shorts in the show again, but in golf, you can't go to a golf course. Well, that's the thing. Some of these, like Augusta, I think the Cow Club in, in San Francisco, some certain country clubs don't allow you to wear shorts. So that is a mindset that might be like Jay Monahan's like no shorts. But I, I think that will come to an end here fairly soon. The volume.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Jasmine Crockett
I think that ultimately who will become the Democratic nominee for president will be someone that has been out there and has shown that they won't allow themselves to be punched and just say thank you like they will punch back.
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Katie Couric
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Jake Hofer
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Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.
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