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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - Is Nick Saban RETURNING to football, the HYPE around Arch Manning, Barstool TAKES ON Fox
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Colin Cowherd
What is happening, everybody? How are you doing? Hopefully you're doing well. Wherever you may be. Smile on your face. Enjoying life. If you're struggling, keep your head up. Force a smile on Your face might make you feel better. Hopefully this makes you feel better. We're going to talk Nick Saban. Is he going to return to football? Coward even said what about the Dallas Cowboys? I have some thoughts. The Arch Manning hype train, obviously it keeps growing, it feels like and he hasn't played two games. But I do think it directly benefits some guys in his quarterback orbit, guys in the conference who are obviously at this point in time more accomplished. And then a couple media stories I wanted to touch on. Fox Sports 1 blows everybody out and now it looks like they're going to hire Barstool Portnoy, Big Cat. And there's another story that a little golf related, but Grant Horvat, a YouTube star, turned down the PGA Tour, refused to accept their invite this week in an opposite field event in Truckee, California at Old Greenwood. He said, you won't let me film. I will not play in your event. So some thoughts on Barstool and for and Fox Sports 1 and Grant Horvat. We'll mix it up a little bit as well as a mailbag at John Middle Cop is the Instagram fire in those DMS and get your questions answered here on the show. Really, really easy to do. Just fire in those DMs, questions on the show and that'll be the show today. So Happy Wednesday. You're probably listening to this or watching this on Thursday. But yeah, obviously if you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to my feed. We got a YouTube channel. All of our stuff is there as well. But before we dive into Sabin, you know I got to tell you about my friends. You know I got to tell you about my partners. 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Again create an account and redeem the code John for 20 off down the game time app today last minute take us lowest prices guaranteed. Let's talk Nick Saban, who will be 74 years young in October. And in my experience around coaches that now, I wasn't around that many guys in their 70s, but guys in their 50s and guys in their 60s, they acted and had more energy because of the youth they were surrounded by, whether it be in college or the pros. I don't think there's any arguing. There's a stress and intensity that comes with the profession of coaching. I've said for a while now football and you can include college now with the money everyone's getting paid is Wall street on grass, long hours, crazy hours, crazy money, crazy stress, ton of coffee, lot of Adderall, not much sleep. But listen, it is a drug that a lot of people, once they get into the industry, become addicted to. And like in any industry, there is a percentage of people and in football, that's players and coaches in Wall street, that's traders, that's executives, that's hedge funds that are better than others. And obviously Nick Saban will go down as, in my opinion, the greatest college coach I've ever seen. And you could put him on the short list in terms of basketball, football and men's and women's sports as one of, if not the greatest college coach of all time. Right up there with John Wooden, the coach case, the Geno Oriemmas, you name it, he's as good as it gets. So when you're that good until the day you die, people discuss once you've retired, about you coming back. Now, we had a three and out call with everyone behind the scenes and we were BSing. If you win a couple championships in college athletics, right, if you win two Super Bowls in the NFL, if you win multiple World Series, if you win two NBA championships, you're frigging made man. You're a legend, right? I would say in college football, for example, Dabo, Kirby, guys that have won multiple championships, you basically are in scholarship at your school, you immediately become up until now, Nick's gone, but highest paid guy, you basically run the school, you answer to nobody, you've earned that one championship, you get a lot of juice. But hey, we've seen people win a championship and people, you win too. It's like you're untouchable. Nick Saban has seven. Has seven national championships. That might as well be the equivalent of like 20. Think about the way Jay Wright is treated in terms of like the Knicks should be Oliver Jay Wright, Duke basketball should be over Jay Wright. North Carolina should fire whoever hire Jay Wright. And it's like, yeah, they probably should. And he's like, no, I'm good. But he's treated like he John Wooden or, or Coach K. That's the power of the two. Obviously Coach K one more. John wouldn't want a ton. I do think when you look at Nick Saban and when he got out, obviously the changing landscape impacted him. And there are more question marks still than answers, right? In the NFL we can bitch and moan and people can have conversations about contracts, guaranteed money, you know, what franchise drafts you, what franchise or GM you're dealing with, who's coaching you. Obviously there are a lot of variables, but the rules are very black and white, right? If you're drafted in this lot, this what it paid pays. If you play this position and are this good, give or take, this is what you make. There's a hard salary cap in college football. I have no clue what's going on. I was told that it was going to go to revenue sharing, it's going to go to a salary cap. No one has any clue. There's now going to be regulations on nil. Bullshit. I feel like it's still completely the wild wild west. And Nick Saban, who didn't dominate that era, who was already old, like if Nick Saban was 50, he just would have adapted, but he was older and he said I'm out. And let's face it, the elephant in the room too was Alabama's AD last year put out a tweet, essentially begging for money. Alabama is not equipped like the University of Texas with unlimited funds. So you are at a disadvantage in, in this modern day game. And he realized it and he got out. But now Greg McElroy says that he's coming back. I watched Lane Kiffin with Paul Finebaum that says football is worse off with Nick not coaching. He's. When you watch him talk, he's still really sharp. Obviously his football knowledge is elite and we are better off with Nick Saban out of the charity SPN and coaching football. I did a little digging, text a couple people that would have a pretty good idea. And from, from my recon, I think it's. I'm taking an educated guess that Nick Saban is in the, in the ballpark of five, $6 million is what ESPN pays him. To work college game day and obviously do some hits, which clearly takes a lot more, lot less mental and physical toll on him than coaching a football program. Right. So it's a much easier life though. It's for way less money, let's face it, way less juice. I mean, when you're the head coach at the most important program, you are typically the number one story in the sport. And now he just gives his opinions on the stories, while if he does say something important, he then becomes a story. But he no longer is under the microscope. He kind of has a part of holding the microscope and talking about what's going on. I saw Coward today. That said, what about the Cowboys? Brian Schottenheimer one and done. And then go after Jerry Jones. I have a hard time seeing Nick Saban At 74 years old, a guy who's accumulated an ungodly amount of money over the last 15 years, answering to Jerry Jones, who is a decade older than him and clearly coming down the home stretch and pretty addicted to power. And if you look at the Cowboys hiring practices beside Bill Parcell's, whatever 20 years ago, in, in Jerry's 70s and 80s, he has done the opposite of hiring a guy like Nick Saban, right? Jason Garrett, Wade Phillips, even Mike McCarthy was kind of down and out. Paid him $35 million over five years. Nick Saban would have laughed at that if someone put that in front of his face at Alabama six years ago, let alone now. Let's face it, Brian Schottenheimer, while compared to rest of society, makes a lot of money relative to coaches. I think it's fair to guess Brian Schottenheimer is a bottom five paid coach in the NFL in terms of head coaches and rightfully so. He has no head coaching experience and no one else was offering him head coaching job. So Jerry actually got a cheap version of I think what he hopes Mike McCarthy. Nick Saban's not going to the Cowboys. Nick Saban also isn't coming back to college football unless even if he was interested, it would have to be the best overall job, which I think in this modern day landscape you'd argue would be the University of Texas where his guy Steve Sarkeesian just got a massive contract because when Nick retired, he said, no, I'm good. So what happened? He got a massive extension. And as multiple people have said within the college football world that these guys with 40, 50, $60 million buyouts, that's just the cost of paying a guy to leave. That's not going to happen as much anymore. Why Because a lot of that money is now being put toward and forwarded to, and rightfully so, the players. So I don't envision Nick Saban coming back. I feel Nick Saban is going to ride off into the sunset, do college game day for the next several years, enjoy himself, still get to be around the program, but relax while he still gets to make some money. But this, the notion that Nick Saban is going to come back. A lot of people have also disputed that, one being AJ McCarron I saw on the Interweb today. I actually don't think there's a fit out there, even if he was interested. Arch Manning, the hype on this guy, second to none, which is cool. Like part of the business I'm in. Like, I like hype and sometimes it's kind of fake and other times it's like, is Trevor Lawrence the best prospect in the last 20 years? How good of a prospect is Caleb Williams? What is Cam Ward, number one overall pick? Why is no one talking about him? And then you get Arch, who has spoken about like he's his uncle, not Eli, but Peyton, and he's played two games against nobodies and that's not his fault. That's the nature of having that last name. That's the nature of playing at Texas. It's the nature of being a huge recruit. That's the nature of, in this day and age of sitting in college, which is unheard of. Most guys that have to play one year as a backup immediately transfer, let alone two. But you know who it actually benefits in the sec. You know, we have had years where the SEC has been loaded in terms of defenses, ton of NFL guys at all these programs. But the quarterback plays been like not great. I'd argue this year coming into the season, it's freaking loaded. DJ Lagway, who has a chance to resurrect the University of Florida. Lenore Sellers, who down the stretch of that season last year in South Carolina looked freaking awesome. Obviously Nussmeier, who at one point in time last year was like, hey, if this guy comes out, he might be a top 20 pick, returns to school. You have John Matiere, who I'll be honest, a couple years ago never heard of, most of you had neither. Then he started last year at Washington State and was awesome. And then Oklahoma hired, you know, paid him in the transfer portal and hired their offensive coordinator and paid them both a lot of money. And now I was in the car the other day listening to Sirius XM College and someone who's around the program was like, I'm not comparing this guy to Baker. That's an unfair amount of hype to put on this guy. But in terms of the juice and the excitement he's given this locker room, they love this guy. So I'm like, damn. And we had on his former coach who's now at Wake Forest, who said they desperately tried to keep him back when he was the head coach. And then there's Marcel Reed, who's like this dynamic dual threat guy at Texas A and M, which is going to have a loaded roster that all these guys are legitimate NFL prospects. And the difference of these guys and Arch, they've all played now. Like, Mattier transferred into Oklahoma, but he started last year at Washington State, right? DJ Lagway played last year as a true freshman. Garrett Nussmeier, obviously, once Jaden leaves, started all year. And I do think this class and this group, some of these guys, couple of these names are going to be top 10 picks. There is a chance, especially if Arch doesn't even come out, we might end the season, go that DJ Lagway. John Mattier had a better year than Arch Manning. But coming into the year, typically where it's kind of spread out, we're talking about this guy, we're talking about that guy. Arch is taking all the oxygen. He's the only guy any of us are talking about. It's like he just is the story and I understand why the last name. But even he's like, listen, the hype's a little out of control. I play two games. These other guys, I mean, some of these guys are multi year starters and I'm just fascinated to watch the way it shapes out because I think a couple of these guys are going to have really good seasons. I think the SEC quarterback play this year is going to be fantastic. I haven't even talked about Georgia's quarterback or Alabama's quarterback. Obviously some unknowns there. I mean, I would say these guys are better prospects, but I do think Arch is really doing these guys a favor. God, I'm fired up. The British Open is here. The biggest names in golf teeing it up across the pond to chase history. The game's original major. Want to make some cash while watching people play golf? You can by betting on the action at Royal port rush with DraftKings Sportsbook. From the opening round through championship Sunday. DraftKings Sportsbook has you covered with live betting, player props and so much more. If you've never bet on golf before, it's easier than you think. Just Pick something simple like a golfer to win the tournament. Rory McIlroy can he win his second major of the year? This is where he grew up. Last time it did not go well. He missed the cut. 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Colin Cowherd
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Where I grew up, if you had a radio show on kbr, if you had a, if you had a sports radio show on ESPN or Fox, if you had a television show on one of the major networks, a sitcom or whatever, it didn't guarantee success because still like a lot of people have gone through ESPN over the years, like guys like Colin and Dan Patrick were just better than 99% of them, right. And they would have succeeded anywhere they went. So that is never going to change. But there was a built in platform before, especially like when I was a kid. If you got a job at a major newspaper, you had a huge advantage. Why? Because it was distributed to millions of people who got to read you. And obviously there were better columnists than others. But I bet if we look back, there were some people that were kind of average, that had long lucrative careers because they got involved with the right paper. Well, those days are done. Just because I put you on a network, if you aren't talented, you not only will get exposed, nobody will watch, no one will care. I value or I look at myself as a consumer first, right. So like the way I consume is if you're good, I just kind of find out about you and I'll just consume you. I watch a lot of different people that would be, quote unquote considered YouTubers or podcasters, right? Whether it's finance, whether it's in golf, whether it's in other sports. And some of them, like if you talk about Colin or like a Brian Windhorst work for a major network and some of them I was just watching no laying ups British Open preview work for themselves. And you can cut through the noise and make a lot of money as an independent nowadays, which was extremely difficult 20, 30, 40 years ago. Obviously YouTube and the podcast world, social media has helped change the game. But if someone becomes big now, let's use Dave Portnoy or Big Cat with Barstool who are now rumored to go to Fox Sports, who just fired half their shows. Just because I put a show on Fox Sports, it does not guarantee that anyone's going to watch. Why? Because I'm a good example. I watch content. If you're not good, I'm not going to give you my time. I don't just have two options. I have 500 I. I can watch a million different things. I can listen to a million different things. That used to not be the case. So the power of an individual like Dave, who created a brand off literally just eating pizza and a lot of people watch men and women or pardon my take, that gets millions of people to listen every single episode. It's not because, oh, I just heard pardon my take because I was on the main network. There is no main network. You have to actively seek them out. That's why I really appreciate and value everyone that listens or watches my show. You have to actively come to me. You're not just going to find me like I just saw Middle Cough on cbs. That's not going to happen. So when I see that Fox Sports blew out these shows, which I'm not trying to be a dick because it's hard and hell if you would have put me in one of those shows, probably would have failed to. Just didn't get anyone to watch. Where when you hire these guys, you give yourself an opportunity to bring an audience that watches everything these guys do. When you put Colin somewhere, people gravitate toward you. It's why you can say whatever you want about Stephen A. He doesn't know what's going on in the draft. He screws things up about the NFL. All those things are true. He has proven like when you put them on different platforms, people go there. We see it with Shannon Sharpe. What happened when Shannon left Fox and skipped show, fell off a cliff. What did Shannon prove Whenever he has a show a lot of people watch that's really, really important. That's really, really valuable. So when I see that Fox is going to hire Barstool, I go, makes a lot of sense. I would do the same thing if I was sitting in their shoes. Because paying these former athletes some of the numbers that I heard millions of dollars to do these shows where 60, 70,000 people are watching is just moronic business. And pulling the plug to go into business with Barstool, which honestly set the tone. Like the business I'm in now exists largely because of them. I mean, let's face it, they set the tone in this industry. They, them and maybe Bill Simmons from a podcast perspective. I remember when Colin started the volume one of his first calls and he talked about this openly. I remember him telling me this. He called Erica, who was Dave Portnoy CEO because that was the business we were going to try to emulate because they had figured out a way to monetize this world. And I just think that, like when I saw this story, not only was I not shocked, my first reaction was like, yeah, it's probably going to work. You will get a huge bump in quote unquote ratings. You will get people to pay attention. And I was on a text thread today with some friends is like, how are they going to not swear? It's like, I don't know. I swear all the time. I went on Colin show and guess what? I didn't swear for a couple hours. It's like you can figure it out. It's not that difficult. And honestly, maybe they can license it out where they allow him to do that like they do Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee is a good example. People like Pat McAfee, if you get on the Internet, everyone seems to hate him. It's like everyone I meet in the real world all have good things to say, all enjoy a show, all are entertained by it. And I just think sometimes you got to be careful about what's said on social media and what happens in real life, especially on Twitter. And that's where I think kind of the media world got lost down this rabbit hole for a long time. There are some benefits to the speed in which I guess news breaks, but in terms of trying to gauge interests or what matters in terms of putting on a show, which I think for a long time would shock people, played a huge huge or had a very influential poll was we'll look back as one of the dumbest business moves in the history of of American media. But my first take would be I bet it works and I bet they have success doing this and I bet it turns out to be a win win. The other story that went pretty viral was Grant Horvat, who for those of you that don't know who that is, it's hard for me to give like a comp for him. He's basically this Internet golfer who is just a sensation. His he's an independent individual who does videos where he plays with either other pros. He partners with Phil Mickelson and he also plays with these two guys called the Brian Bros. And they play courses that the PGA plays and they try to break the cut and millions of people watch. And he has countless sponsors who support him. Slash, he's a co owner. I have heard some of the numbers in which it costs to get involved with the show. Let's just say I think it's fair to say he easily has an eight figure operation going right now. And when I say eight figure, that's I'm not saying like $90 million. But he is making eight figures and it's very, very lucrative, successful, and I would say impactful in the world he's in. He was offered a spot which happens in golf. They're called a sponsor invite in this golf tournament this week. Well, on the PGA Tour, when there's a major, typically they have an opposite field event, which is basically an event for a bunch of random guys trying to make it a couple big names, but for the most part is a completely irrelevant event. Now, it's not irrelevant for the people playing in the event because if you win it, it changes your career and gets you into majors. But on the totality of it, no one watches, no one's really paying attention. So they offered Grant a spot. And Grant, probably a couple months ago, filmed a YouTube with Scottie Scheffler. He asked Scotty Scheffler. He's like, I've been invited. I don't think I'm going to take it. And Scotty pleaded with him. He said, you should take it. You're not taking someone else's spot. They need you in that event. But Grant does not need the PGA Tour. He is probably making more money doing what he does play on YouTube than potentially every single person in this tournament this weekend called the Barracuda beside Max Home. And let's face it, if you play professional golf, you are playing for money. That is literally the end result of what you are doing. You are playing golf tournaments trying to win as much money possible. Grant Horvat plays golf on the Internet to earn money, right? That's, that's what he does. And he's successful at it. So ultimately, he denied the PGA Tour. He said, I'm not interested. Because they denied him allowing to shoot YouTube videos while he played, which was never going to happen. The PGA Tour was never going to allow him to shoot YouTube videos during the tournament. Just like grand. Horvat was never going to play in this tournament because he knew they were never going to give in to those demands because they're very strict laws. Right? Just like Jamar Chase can't bring a YouTube or a video crew during a game against the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday Night Football. That's not allowed. Can't happen in any of these sports. It's very black and white. Even though this tournament needs Grant more than he needs them. And I've seen a lot of people freak out, even people I respect going, I can't believe a golf influencer would turn down the PGA Tour. Well, I agree, that would be crazy if two Things were true. One, Grant wanted to be on the PGA Tour, which he clearly doesn't. And two, it was an opportunity for him to make money. He would actually probably lose money if he wasted a week. Well, let's say he was shooting other stuff. It would be a net negative for him. I think people underestimate the amount of money, especially a lot of these legacy media people that are in this bubble of, like, what's actually going on. Hell, if I didn't do what I did and still worked in radio, I would have no clue how much commerce and business is actually done in the podcast, YouTube World. But I've been in it for 10 years. Those are a lot of people that I talk to and ask questions about. So I have a. I would say a better understanding than I've seen some of these reactions. Like, Dave Portnoy and Barstool. They don't need Fox's money, right? They don't need to do this. This isn't something they need. They actually have leverage because clearly, I would imagine Fox wants them. So what happens when you got the leverage? You get more money. Now, I'm not saying it's strictly a money grab. It's also cool. It's also a way to get different eyeballs. It's a way to just potentially expand your brand and grow your business. But let's not get it twisted, Dave. Big Cat Barstool does not need to be on Fox Sports 1. But if the business deal makes sense and we can be comfortable with what we're doing, it works like, ultimately, Pat McAfee didn't need ESPN at any moment. If he wanted to leave, he would be fine. Does he benefit from it? Sure, he's on ESPN. Two, you see him at gyms, you see him at airports. He gets benefits of, you know, doing the All Star Game and doing different shit. But at the end of the day, him and his operation does not need them. No different here. Grant Horvat does not need the PGA Tour. Now, I'd argue if the Masters or the US Open or something invited him, it would be insane from a business standpoint for him not to accept the invite. But the fucking barracuda at Old Greenwood in Truckee, California, that is going to have no one paying attention. I don't know, because the British Open is going on and it's in the middle of summer is not that crazy for him to turn down. I also think it's a genius PR move by him to go, hey, I'm not playing in this, because they won't Let me film it actually is a story. This shouldn't be a story because they were never going to let him film. He was never going to play in the event. But I will give him credit. Him and his team and whoever's, they're pretty good at this and they created a massive story out of nothing of something that was never going to happen. Like the Barstool FS1 story. Like clearly there's a lot of substance there. This thing, if I was a betting man, probably happens. I even saw Colin tweet something out. But the Horvath thing and the reaction by a lot of the legacy journalists, it's like, guys, are you that out of the loop what Horvat has going on and how successful his operation is? I would guess like whatever his the grant Horvat YouTube empire makes in Grant's pocket, who plays a huge role in it. What would he, where would he be valued on the PGA Tour? I bet he makes top 75 guy, top 50 guy. Like he's financially, he ain't desperate. And I think that always shocks people when someone's not desperate and they go, yeah, I'm not gonna do it. I'm good. Because forever, especially in the media world and the sports world, you just always say yeah, right? Yes, yes. And obviously saying yes sometimes even if there's not, it's hard to quantify is this a good idea or bad idea can be a good tactic that to approach life with. But every once in a while it's like, yeah, this is a complete waste of my time. I don't want to do this and I don't want to, you know, ruin an experience for all these other guys which are going to be resentful. It'd just be a weird operation because everyone be looking at me funny foreign.
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Okay, let's do a little Middlekop mailbag at John Middlekopf is the Instagram fire in those dms. Get your questions answered here on the show. Really, really easy to do. Just my name at John Middlekopf. DMS wide open. We will start with Pat. Not Pat Burrell, but just a guy named Pat. Big fan of your pops, including the ones with Colin. Loved hearing you guys give Campbell some love on the last episode as a really good coach who also benefits from a great front office. By this rationale though, doesn't Sirianni deserve some flowers too? No, he's a little annoying. But while he also has a great gm, he's been to two Super Bowls one one and has been able to keep the team together in a noisy market. And the players have pretty much stood by him repeatedly. Not to mention he's shown the ability to adjust mid season based on the players he has. I'm not ignorant to his annoying qualities. Just kind of think at some point we have to acknowledge he's done a pretty good job. I don't think it's disputable. You win the super bowl like he just did, you rally the troops as he just did. I think one thing, you know, people in the business, it's like Vic Fangio comes like that's Howie Roseman. Been trying to hire Vic Fangio for a long time. Like is that a Nick Sirianni thing? You know, he gets a lot of credit for Shane Steichen existed on that staff because of him. And same thing with Jonathan Gannon. Like those were his two initial hires. The hire since you know, I think the organization good and bad, right? And that's where the Eagles are kind of unique, where it's like, you know, I would say Dan Campbell is, is has the autonomy hiring the staff, whereas Nick Sirianni just has less juice in terms of the day to day operations of the Eagles. But when it comes to the players motivating them, that there is no disputing. He, he deserves a lot of credit. You win the super bowl now, I don't give a shit what the circumstances were. Obviously their team was loaded. But you beat the Chiefs like that, you have the team ready like, like you what you are 100% spot on. It's by far the most intense market in terms of the stories in terms of the way the team's covered locally and nationally. But I would just say if you pulled every. Let's remove the Lions and the Eagles and we just got 30 GMs and they had the choice to hire one of two coaches, Campbell or Sirianni. So I'm not including Howie and I'm not including Brad Holmes of the Lions. I think the numbers for Dan Campbell of the other 30 GMs would be fair or not. I'm not, I'm taking a strong educated guess here. I think would be extremely strong in the majority of Dan Campbell. Not saying it's 30 to 0, but I think the number would be in the 20s. Question for the pod. Lamar was recently talking about how he had to learn to be a vocal leader. It got me thinking, who is the best, best leader in the NFL at the quarterback position and how much does it affect the game? Example, if Tim Tebow was one of the best leaders in football history and knew how to fire up his guys up. Here's the link to Lamar telling Kevin Hart this. Well, to be a good leader you have to be a good player, right? No different to me to be a good boss in any corporation. Like I've worked for people that I thought were really good, had interesting tactics. But if I thought they knew what they were doing and talented and gave me an opportunity to be my best self or the to have a successful operation, I just bought into, right? Whether they had, you know, I've been around football coaches, Pat Hill, Andy Reid, natural leadership qualities. But like you just knew being around Howie, who was new on the job, you're like, this guy's fucking smart. I don't always agree with everything he was doing was intense environment. But it's like no one disputed like how he's capabilities, right? And then I've worked for people in radio. I'm like, is this guy the biggest idiot I've ever been around in my entire life? And you just can't take him seriously. So you can't be a good leader if you're not a good player, right? Just like you can't be a good coach if people don't think you know what's going on. It's just, it's just impossible. So most of the good leaders, and I've known someone who worked with the Ravens two year when McDonald, that team that lost to the Chiefs in the AFC championship game, who, who said Lamar was like guys would run through a wall for him in Harbaugh, right? But Lamar at that point in time, it Was like, one of the best players in the league. Now, I think Lamar Mahomes, Josh, Joe Burrow. I haven't watched the quarterback show yet. I just had a buddy in the league text me. He's like, you got to watch. It's fascinating to watch. Burrow, clearly the guy. These guys really like them. So they. They're the best player on the team, one of the best players in the league, and the players really like them. So then I think Lamar has talked about this. It's on you to get more comfortable with, like, being loud. And being loud isn't just, like, speaking loud. It's being assertive, telling people what to do and when to do it. And Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins. The more you play, the more touchdowns you throw, it's easier to get on guys. And you have to back it up by, like, Patrick. All these guys, their work ethic of what time they show up, how late they are. I remember. What's his last name? Brandon, former offensive lineman for the Saints, who, when he retired, cried because of how inspired he was every week watching Drew Brees, how much time he put in. So it's easy. Like, Peyton Manning can just. He get him and Brady, their personalities can be pretty aggressive, but it's easy for them to be aggressive with a guy when they're a dominant player. Right. If Daniel Jones started hooting and hollering and pointing at people to do shit, it'd be like, what are you doing? Look at. Baker's a good example. I think his natural personality is very outgoing, very. Just very verbal. Well, he's excelled because he's played well in Tampa, and he can use that personality. When he wasn't playing that well in Cleveland, it got weird. So I think all the top guys from the top, really real true. Top group, that top four, but then the group of the golfs, you know, Jalen is a good example. Like, when your work ethic and you're, you know, part of being a quarterback, I've heard was Albert Brear or someone talked about this. One thing Brady really, really took seriously was, like, he knew that he could never impress anyone with his speed or his athleticism. But, like, if his teammates knew that, like, he was tough as shit. So every time he got hit, he'd pop up and as quickly as possible to pop up. That resonated with people. What. What did Ben Johnson get on Caleb Williams for? When you get hit, your body language matters. Get up and get up fast, because that is what people are looking at you for. And I Think being a quarterback and it's so hard because it's physically demanding, it's mentally demanding. Obviously you got to produce. The coaches are on you, the media is on you, the fans are all watching you. I think all these guys are really, really impressive. Burrow, Lamar, Allen and Mahomes. I've heard more direct stories of Lamar and of Mahomes. Just knowing people in those organizations, I have. I've just seen from the outside on Josh. I mean, I know McDermott, I've never really talked to him about it. Obviously Josh is impressive too. But I think, you know, listen, all of our personalities are different. Some people talk a lot, some people are quiet. But there are certain things that you can prove of like, God, this guy works really hard, you know, especially in football. God, this guy's really tough. I've never talked to a football player that whether they like you or not personally, if you're tough and you're their teammate, they're going to respect you. That was a good question. It's become more apparent to me recently that there seems to be two schools of thought when it comes to giving out contracts. When a player has a season worthy of money, contract extension of more money or contract extension, the GM gets out in front of it and gives an extension. That is Howie, the Niners, the Cowboys school of thought is which seems to push players to hold out for a contract. Can you talk about the pros and cons of each contract and strategy and why a GM may prefer A or B? It seems to me that players who hold out often have statistical regression or injury seasons. Well, the Cowboys in the Niners I would put in different categories because the guy running the Niners money parag has been doing it for 20 years. And in the Harbaugh era of Patrick Willis, Navarro, Bowman, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree, Vernon Davis, all those type players, they could always get guys to sign contract early. They would pay you a lot of money relative to the money at the time, but they would get out in front of it like how he did. And then the Niners have gone through this stretch now where their type, their players would not sign those contracts. Like Nick Bosa or Trent Williams is not signing a meet in the middle contract. I'm breaking the bank as the highest paid player in this sport right now. And unless you give me that money, I'm going to be pissed off. The Cowboys just play it till the end. Always like now have a long history quarterback, you know, I mean the 49ers did it with Brock Purdy Fred Warner, like they will get out in front if you're willing to play ball. But you know, like the dance floor, it takes two to tango here. So if I offer you a contract, you got it. What if Brock Purdy, when the Niners had offered him that contract, like, no, I want $20 million more guaranteed. 180. I want 200. I want the same as Trevor Lawrence. It's like, well, we're trying to offer McConnell. He's saying no, what do we do now? If we play it out longer, does he end up getting 220 if he starts holding out because we start freaking out. So you know how he has benefited that his guys have been willing to sign contracts? You know, I mean that's, there's a huge element there. But even this year, like they took care of Saquon, you know, Jalen, they. I'd say that was at the time a pretty big win for Jalen. So it's just, it, it's very dependent on who you're dealing with, right? Whether the Cowboys, Howie Roseman, whether the Niners had been dealing with Nick Bosa. He was going to cost a lot of money. Now one thing maybe how he would have done with Bosa is sign him after year three. The Niners are pretty adamant about signing you after year four because they like a little more data. I listen, I don't know if there's a right or wrong way to do it. All these contracts in the NFL besides like quarterbacks, but even quarterbacks, we've seen some be disasters. There's a large amount of risk in signing o lineman D line and all these guys to these massive contracts because of the injury risk. We're just going to see there's going to be over the next several years guys on 100 plus million dollar guarantee contracts. There's going to be a guy have a devastating injury, never be the same. Do you know who's a good example? Christian Wilkins, the defensive lineman the Raider signed from Miami, who's a stud. I mean really good player. The Raiders gave him like $85 million guaranteed. I had heard this not from Spy Tech, but I just rumor out there. And then I had seen a story recently. He's probably never going to be the same. He still messed up at the end of OTAs. Like he might never really be able to play football again. And if he does, people think that his careers, he'll never be remotely close to the same player. And I'm not shaming them for the contract. I would have signed him too if I had the money but sometimes you have a devastating injury and you're just never the same player. And that typically I guess in baseball you can have Tommy John but for the most part guys respond to that. In basketball it's pretty rare. I mean Paul George shattered his leg in two in the stanchion and came back and made all star games. Do you think Ndama can Sue is a first ballot hall of Famer or even hall of Fame worthy? I think he asked this question because the big fella just domicile. If someone saw how I just spelled his name I don't think I could ever respond. Sue. We'll just type in Sue. There's no Dominican Sue. My first response is he's not a Hall of Famer. He's a five time all Pro. Okay, maybe he's. Maybe he's better than I thought. Defensive rookie of the year, five time Pro Bowler. Yeah, maybe he is a fringe pro Bowler or Hall of Famer. Maybe I underestimated him. Who do you win? He won the super bowl with Tampa. Obviously he's never huge sack guy but that wasn't his game. I would say he's on the fringe. Good question. First ballot, no chance. Maybe I undersold him. There has been a lot of hype around the Chargers and the Broncos. Assuming the Chiefs win the AFC west, which is a fair assumption given I think they've won the division seven years in a row, what would you consider as the biggest disappointment division? The Broncos or the Chargers finishing third? Well to me if one of those two finished third and they missed the playoffs, that is pretty bad because the expectation for both those two teams is to make the playoffs again. But to me if you finish third, let's say the Chiefs win 13 games, the Chargers win 11 and the Broncos win 10. Like if you're in the playoffs, I don't think you probably are disappointed that you screwed around and lost a couple games. Maybe you could have won but I don't know if that's that big a deal. Now if you finish third and you're eight, nine and you're not in the playoffs. So to me it's you can finish third. But think about last year. The packers finished third. It was somewhat disappointing but they were in the playoffs so not the end of the world. I think we got a similar question. I did a little digging. I wanted to get your take on the fact the Browns and the Texans have both have two second round picks and those teams are the ones that set the precedent of the guaranteed second round Pick contracts. How do you think that impacts the dynamics of the other second rounders of those teams who haven't signed yet? Junkins for the Browns and I might be screwing this name up though. I know the Texans like this guy Ursi for the Texans and offensive lineman. I did a little digging because I got this question yesterday because I, I followed this story but I haven't like done that much digging on the story. From what I was told by people in the league, that one guy that got, I think one of the Texans guy, that Iowa State wide receiver, I think pick 34, his contract was essentially like 96% guaranteed. So it wasn't, it wasn't a situation where let's just pick a number $1,000. Well, 500 of those thousand dollars are guaranteed. Every hundred dollars I get after that also guaranteed would be a big deal, right? So if I ended up getting $800 out of the thousand guaranteed, I got an extra 30%. That's a huge coup for me. But if 96% of the contract's guaranteed, so 9,600 of the thousand, getting the extra $40 seems crazier as a headline. Not that crazy in reality. I see Maria in real estate all the time and I've been guilty of this too. She actually talked me out of when we bought this house is so many times in real estate you end up arguing with the other and there's a pride aspect, an ego aspect over a tiny amount of money. It's one thing if the house is on sale for a million and you're offering 700 grand and there's a huge gap. But how often that she sees this dude's offering, you know, the house is on the market for 950. This guy, they kind of finally come to 930. It's like you guys are pretty close. $20,000. And even with interest rates high, like the difference of a purchase price of 20 grand, 10 grand, 5 grand has a tiny, tiny impact. Now hundreds of thousands of dollars clearly make a big deal. But we're not talking about that here. We are talking about 95, 96, 98% of the contract is guaranteed. So Kasario just give you 100. Now is that different with the later pick, you know, the Judkins thing? Obviously he's in trouble. Now that's a whole other complicated issue to me. If the contract is 97% guaranteed, as someone told me, if we draft a guy at pick 42, like we believe that guy's going to be a pretty freaking good player. Because if we didn't guess what, we would have drafted someone else. Now that's where the owner gets involved. Well, of course you guys believed in them, that's why you picked them. But like, we see a lot of these guys fail, so every single penny that we can avoid paying him, worst case scenario you got, there's a reason. We pay for car insurance, home insurance. You don't want your house to burn down, you don't want to get in a car wreck. But sometimes a dude t bones you. When Maria was in college, her parents house burned down, freak deal, electrical thing burned down. Luckily they had home insurance, rebuilt the house, but if you don't, you're kind of fucked, you know. And it's no different here. This is a little different because you're just talking maybe a hundred grand or a couple hundred grand. But over the grand scheme of things, if you save money on situations that go bad, that's a pretty smart way to do business. So from what I've heard is some teams were like, hey, we're paying them 97. I don't want to argue from an agent perspective. Can you imagine what a win it is? Because if you're an agent, you're not going to have seven top 15 players. So if you have three guys go in the first round, that's pretty good. And if you have a couple second rounders, if I tell you you got five guys in the top two rounds, that's really good. Well, the first round contracts, unless you're Shamar Stewart, take care of themselves, the second round contracts, if I can go into Alabama, lsu, Oregon, and yeah, this guy might not be a top 10 pick, but he's got, he might go 40th, he might go 50th, he might go 38. And I can go, you know what I did last year? I got my guy drafted in the second round, where you're projected to go a fully guaranteed contract. So you want to go that guy who got his contract, who got 95, I'll get you every single penny guaranteed. If I was his dad, if I was the guy's assistant, you know, position coach or high school coach, I'd be like, we should probably go with that guy. Be a good business move. So there are a lot of different variables there. We got a lot going on with this contract situation. So the 49ers guy, the Texas defense, didn't show up today. It's going to be fascinating how many second rounders over the course of the next. I was texting with a buddy on the Chiefs he says, I think their rookies report Monday. Like they drive up to camp on Sunday. So it's when I'm recording this on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Like all these rookies all over the league are going to be showing up. How many of the second rounders that have not signed? No show. My guess is all of them unless they get a contract. Done. AJ Green Bengals Cards wide receiver I feel like he doesn't get the respect he deserves. He made two All Pros, seven straight up Pro Bowls in the 2010s before the Pro bowl allowed seventh alternate. He has over 700 catches, 70 touchdowns, almost 11,000 yards in 12 seasons and two of those he missed many games during the 2010 decade. He's a top five in catches, yard, TDs. If he played in a bigger market, he would have gotten more love. I agree. We get a lot of hall of Fame questions. I'm not great with that. I'm really not. My standards are really high, I think. A.J. brown, I saw him play. I saw him play when I worked in Philly. I saw him play when I was around the Raiders. He dominated. I mean a guy freak show I was at the draft in which he got drafted in 2000 would have been April of 11. Him and Julio, great draft. I mean it was Cam Newton, Von Miller, Tyrone Smith, J.J. watt, Julio, A.J. green, Alden Smith. Loaded with town. So I'm with you. I think if you put him on the packers or the Cowboys or something, for sure. I think he's talked about like a lock. Hall of Fame, right? I'm not great with that. I mean I'm pretty good with like is Patrick Mahomes, hall of Famer Travis Kelsey. But some of the fringe guys, I always lean no like Nadamic and Su. I'm like no chance. And then I look, I'm like, ah, yeah, he'll be in the mix. My son is nine and we listen to the pod together. I like your son a lot. He's got, he's got a bright future. I was wondering if you could look over the bill schedule and give us a breakdown of how you see the season going. Michael thinks we still need help in the secondary. Got your kids dialed in. I will say this about the Bills, what they proved last year, which I thought was insane when people were picking other teams to win. You know, the Bills to miss the playoffs, the Bills to come back to earth. I'm like when you got Josh Allen, it's the equivalent of having like an NBA star. You are a lock playoff team and what they have proven is and unlike the Chiefs because their division's way shittier, excuse my language there young Michael, you are a lock to win the division. I think the Bills are at this point in time to me just circle them in division champs, 12 to 14 wins maybe if they get injury ravaged 11. But I don't even think there's question marks when it comes to like what they're going to do. Okay, let's fire through Ravens. Okay, let's coin flip. Jets, Dolphins, Saints, Patriots, Falcons, Panthers. I mean you got a lot of wins on your schedule, man, you get the Chiefs at home, you beat them a lot in the regular season. Dolphins owned them. Tampa. Even if that's a sneaky hard game at the Texans, Josh is built for a dome at the Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Browns, Eagles, Jets Schedule gets a little more difficult at the end, but I'd say 12 wins. 12 and 5.
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Colin Cowherd
Okay, a couple more questions here. Congrats on the wedding. Child expectancy. Got married last September 26and we're thinking of heading to Lake Tahoe for a one year anniversary. Do it and enjoy it. Question for the Pod as an Eagles fan, do you think there's a legitimate stigma against the fan base based on previous reputation of an overall hyper passionate following? I've been a fan since I was 7 and I was raised in Southern California. Long story, I've met and know more Eagle fans here than fans of the local teams Rams and Chargers. Knowing that You've seen firsthand previously working for the organization. I wanted to know your thoughts on the general consensus around the league and if there's truly a genuine disdain for the Eagles fan base. I think overall, you could go to most stadiums and find fucking people that you would. I mean, not in a million years. Want to sit next to for three hours and these videos go viral of people fighting at all these stadiums just being complete. I don't know why you would want to attend an NFL game, especially if you are the fan of that team, Spend a decent amount of money, pay for a bunch of beers while you're in there, which are not cheap, and then get into a fight. I think you are a complete idiot. And we see these videos every single year, all the time. I don't think it's random. They typically are in the upper bowl. Right. You don't usually see these fights happening in like the VIP section or in the lower bowl. Right. It's like, I'm coming here to enjoy the game. Obviously, Philly is an intense place to play. There is going to be a harsher environment with the people paying premiums sitting closer to the field than if you went to a Charger game, I would imagine, or a game at Levi's stadium with the 49ers. But I think overall the experience, place to place, is not that much different. I know my personal experience with Philly, it's like I thought it was pretty normal. And I've been to a lot of NFL games at the Oakland Coliseum. I've been to games at Candlestick. It's like, yeah, I mean, if you piss off the wrong guy and he's wasted, you might get into a fight. I think that would happen at most places, but I think the overall percentage of people are there to root on their team and enjoy themselves. If you're a season ticket holder, if you're going to a game, you're doing it like as an escape, as something to do something. Enjoyment. Right. I mean, I. When I see people fighting at games or concerts, I'm like, I can't relate to that. And listen, I understand people get a little too sauced up, but I've always thought the Philly stuff has taken on a life of its own. I mean, the amount of people, it's one thing if a player goes, listen, I had a. I had a bad experience there. It's like, yeah, you can have a bad experience at most away places. You get people to say stupid stuff. This sports, like, I mean, most stuff isn't that serious. But When I see like the media people or people on Twitter or people on social media, if you've never been to a game there, you're just regurgitating what other people have said because they threw a snowball at Santa. Maybe Santa got him. Bad presence. They booed Michael Irvin when it looked like he broke his neck. It's like, yeah, I had a bad moment. They didn't realize. But in my time going to games at the Link, I thought it was pretty enjoyable. Last question. Atlanta native. We've been trash for a while now. For the first time, Terry has been overly aggressive addressing our defensive holes. List all these players and some really good talent in the draft. Pierce, etc. What are your real realistic thoughts on us winning 10, 11 games this year? I think it's on the table. We have the third easiest schedule. Penix I see compared to Warren Moon, Bijan is a superstar. Kyle Pitt should have a good year. He finally might have a real quarterback. Defense should be average, which is a lot better than worse in the league. A lot of analysts are saying us going 7, 10, 8, 9. So I think we fly under the radar. I just have a hard time betting on the culture of your squad. I really. I love Michael Penix. The biggest bet I've ever made in my entire life on a football game was Michael Penix against Texas in the Final Four. And he lit him up like a Christmas tree. It was awesome. I've been rooting for Michael Penix for years. Stud. I think he'll be solid, but I just. It's hard for me to trust the operation. It really is. I think the Pierce thing, he's a guy like a major wild card. He was off a ton of teams boards. So it'd be one thing if like the Belichick Patriots or like when the Eagles drafted Jalen Carter, they had this infrastructure, not just from a coaching standpoint, but they're players. So when I got Jalen Carter, you had to answer to Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham. What were you going to do? Screw around? Act like an idiot? Of course not. You see Jason Kelsey and Lane Johnson and Jordan Mylotta every single day at practice. Landon Dickerson. It's like, this is how we do it. Who's that guy for the Falcons? So I'm not disputing you got some talent on the team. 100%. You do have some good players. You had a good offensive line like you said. Bijan, excellent talent. Even Drake London is pretty solid. I'm not the Kyle Pitts thing. I'm sorry. I'm out. Like, that's just one of those things. Like, I'm just out. I don't think he's like, some scrub, but obviously, if you did a redraft, he's not going in the first round. Probably defensively, though, I don't know. I just. I'm going to bet against it until I'm wrong. I bet against you guys last year, and I was proven right now. If Penix is dramatically better than Cousins, then maybe you'll be okay, but it's going to be pretty. The other thing is, like, the Bucks are just good. Like, Baker's their infrastructure. Their. All these guys have won. It's one thing they really have. Like, all their guys know how to win. It's a problem for the Falcons. You guys just do not know how to win. And sometimes it's like, okay, we bring in Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton. It's like, okay, like Raheem Morris as a head coach. I just have no faith in their operation. I'm going to pick them to win seven, eight games. Kind of like last year might look a little different, but I think we end up with the same result. I'm going to. I screwed up. I picked the Saints last year. I'm going to take the Bucks this year, but I'm going to bet against you guys, and I think you guys will be one of the teams that I envision firing everybody at the end of the season, which sucks because Michael Panick is going to go through a pretty chaotic NFL life. And everyone, all the Shanahan guys love Raheem Moore seems like a very likable guy. So this is. He just might be one of those guys. Maybe meant to be a two. Which happens, right? Fangio is a good example. I saw last year, I was like, what is going on here? It might not even be all his fault. Maybe it's the GM who built this. Just a weird team. Maybe Terry's just not very good. I. I would say maybe he's the bigger problem than the coach, but I'm betting against the Falcons for sure.
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