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3 & Out - Joe Brady introduced in Buffalo, Jimmy Haslam MAD at people, Fugazi Friday
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John Middlekauff
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John Middlekauff
What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John Middelkopf three and out podcast. Hopefully you're doing well out there in the real world on this beautiful sunny Fugazi Friday and lot going on football wise. That'll hit on Joe Brady introduced today. Jimmy Haslam had some comments. We'll do Mailbag at John Middlekopf is the Instagram fire in the DMs and get your questions answered here on the show. We will have on I record a day with Stuckey. I will put that on Monday. A little preview. I got an interview, a Super bowl related interview on Monday that will come out on Tuesday. I think we're recording. I'm going to be in San Francisco like 30ish hours, 36 hours. I'm going to record something from Radio Row. It could be pretty cool actually on Wednesday and then I'll be back on Thursday. So we'll have a bunch of super bowl stuff next week. That'll be the game plan. But today Fugazi Friday and you guys know the drill. I mean if you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to three and out if you want to watch us because I mean who doesn't want to watch a beautiful bald guy? If you don't want to see solid day ball, you know at work, you can just watch me and though I had a hat on today, didn't shave my head. Don't. You don't need to see the cul de sac. You can find us on Netflix. All of our content is up on Netflix. They keep having us back. It's. It's been fun. It's been a good ride so far first month. So go check that out as well. All of our stuff will be on Netflix moving forward. And, and yeah, so let's, let's dive into the Buffalo Bills and the press conference that I just watched. It happened early on Thursday, I watched it when I was giving my young son a little nap on top of my stomach. So I powered through Joe Brady and some of his thoughts, and my biggest takeaway was this is not an easy spot for him because it was a very polarizing decision to fire the coach when the GM was kept. Obviously, that's been well documented. So I was fascinated to see, like, if he embraced it. I mean, he'd worked for Sean McDermott for several years, and he started as a position coach, and he became a coordinator because they fired Ken Dorsey in the middle of the season. So he not only got an incredible opportunity to coach a future hall of Fame quarterback, but was elevated to the play caller, you know, in the middle of a season. And obviously, it changed the course of his career. And my takeaway from Joe Brady and the Sean McDermott situation is I was like, okay, this guy gets it. And let's face it, we all know people in life. There are some people that just get it, and then there are some people that just, for whatever reason, lack of eq, lack of feel, just lack something, and it just feels like they don't. In my takeaway, watching Joe Brady, whether they had coached him up saying this, my personal takeaway watching him, talk was coming from the heart. He went out of his way to go on and on about the opportunity that Sean McDermott gave him, how much he learned from Sean McDermott and how he's not, like, coming in here. He even said, I'm taking over a job that is dramatically different and better than the job that Sean took over nine years ago. But the credit that he gave him for him as a man, for him as a coach, I went, okay, this guy understands that. Like, let's. Let's face it, anyone that's. That's married, there are certain or have volatile work situations. Like, you got to be careful sometimes how you get into a conversation in various situations in life. And this was one, like, I watched some of Jesse Minter. He's making jokes about John Harbaugh, shooting him texts. Go crush this. Go get this job. You should get hired. The relationship in every situation is completely different. When John. When Jim Harbaugh was hired to take over for Brandon Staley, no one, and I repeat, no one cared if Jim acknowledged the former coach, right? But in this situation, like, he not only is taking over this job, but he had been on a staff for a while, and I thought, you know what? Joe Brady, I. I got to give him a little more credit than. And I was just judging from the outside I don't know him personally. I was like, okay, I. I understand it. And if you watch just the press conference, you went, this guy's impressive. Now, winning a press conference doesn't mean anything. Jesse Minter is a fantastic coach. He has been an elite defensive mind. You watch his press conference, you don't take away like, this. This guy, some awesome dude behind a mic, right? We've seen a lot of Brandon Staley, once upon a time won a press conference. Who gives a. It. It doesn't matter. But Joe Brady, and he also acknowledged this. There are a lot of expectations in this job, and I'm embracing them. You know, and this is not an easy gig in the sense of we're winning or we're going home. Like, this is no, you know, I went 10 and 7. I lot. This is a team that's been winning a playoff game for years straight. Like, they have won a playoff game, I think six straight years. So this is a team that's had success. They haven't got over the hump. But I don't think, and I mentioned this on the podcast yesterday, there is not a job probably next year beside maybe the Eagles. And that's just every year with the Eagles where the expectations are as high there just aren't. Right? If the Chiefs don't win the super bowl, like, Andy Reid ain't getting fired, right? If Jim Harbaugh doesn't make the AFC championship game, he ain't getting fired. Kyle Shanahan went 10 and 7 and 1 and done in the playoffs. He not getting fired. But this is a situation where it's like the pressure is insanely high. And he embraced it, he acknowledged it, and I think he knows what he's getting into. And you watched him in this press conference. You went. I understand in an interview setting, because to me, an interview setting is twofold. You gotta bring some juice. I'm not a huge fan of people that just lack juice. When I went to the Ryder cup, one of our. Just a baller salesman, Terrence, I'm gonna see him next week. We met some different people that we had done business with with a volume. And we met this one guy who now with the company that we used to partner with, that hopefully we're not partnered with anymore, he was our contact, and we met him. And I remember walking away and Terence went, God, that guy's a dud. I. I'm like, how did this guy ever get hired? His resume, actually, he just says it out loud in his profession. Pretty impressive. I'm like, this Guy walks in a room, that's his energy. I hate people that lack energy. You don't need to be bouncing off the walls 247 but like you got to have a little juice to you. And Joe Brady clearly has juice to you, to him. And being the leadership position when you are young is not easy. Now he has some built in advantages. The players already know him. And the other thing is like he's taken over a really good team. Like he's taking over a team that if he just does what McDermott did, they'll be fine. Right now he has to take that incremental step up. But you know, he claims going to call plays. Jesse Minner says he's going to call plays. I want my hotshot coach who's a coordinator who gets a job to continue to call plays. Whenever a guy says, I'm not calling plays, like Kevin Stefanski, who listen, I feel like I'm one of the only guy critical of the human being in America that talks about sports. There's nothing personal, I'm just talking about him from a football standpoint. But I watched some of his press Conference with Matty Ice 1 Matty Ice is just pretty easy hire for Arthur Blank. Like he's pretty impressive and Kevin Stefanski is impressive too on a mic. But when they go, hey, are you going to call plays? Like, no. Bringing Tommy Reese to call place. Well, Kevin, you're not exactly fucking Bezos or Steve Jobs CEO. Like shouldn't your point of difference be your ability to call offensive plays? Isn't that what got you to this point? I've watched it the last couple years. It's not exactly managing the squad. I, I, I never understand that. I, I haven't watched Salah yet. I, I don't know what he said when it comes to calling the defense, but I, I just, I can't fathom getting this gig and leaving behind what you do so well, which is navigating one of the sides of the ball at a really, really high level. And I just think if I'm a Bills fan and I watch that I can at least take a breath, a deep breath, a deep exhale and go, okay, this is, we're going to be okay. I get what Brandon Bean, Pula, Josh and all these guys that gave the stamp of approval that they went with him over. Some of the other people like watching him, honestly, like, I get why they took a chance on Joe Brady over going back to the to you know, I guess I wouldn't call it Old Faithful, but something they Knew before in Brian Dable, like, I completely understand it. And again, his situation. Like, Jesse, they're like making jokes about John Harbaugh, and John Harbaugh is in a great place. Like, everyone's happy. Sean McDermott's not coaching this year. By all accounts, right? Some teams have reached out. Jason Light was a guy, they wanted to bring him on staff. He's like, I'm out. I mean, he's making a ton of money. He's being paid not to work, which to me, they say the white picket fence, a dog and a couple kids of the American dream. To me, the American dream is that stuff while being paid over $10 million to not work. Because if you paid me $15 million to not work, I'll promise you this, I wouldn't work much. I'd enjoy some life, especially coming from these jobs. Even Joe Brady said today, I, I just had a baby. My producer Shane had a baby. I, I think came out Saturday or, or Sunday. All the days are kind of running together, but he's not even a weekend. Joe Brady's like, I want to thank my wife, one of our little daughters there. I. I missed her birth because I was on the way to a game. Nothing. Like, I'm. I'm on the bus while my wife's giving birth to go fucking play the jets, to go play Mike McDaniel. Like, that's. But that's the business these guys are in. It's. It's a crate. Sean Payton just fired his best friend. They just made the AFC Championship game, and he just fired Joe Lombardi and Sean Payton. I've always supported him, but he's. Listen, he's always been kind of arrogant. Feeling himself. It feels like he's gone to another level, you know, of the confidence that he exudes on himself and his beliefs. I'm not anti Sean Payton, but I. I get it how people, like, kind of douchey rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Fired all these coaches. Look to me like he had a really good season. It's. It's kind of the fugazi of the sport. It's like, how are you firing all these guys? Like you're firing the wide receiver. Coach, did you see your unit? What'd you expect? Ed McCaffrey, Rod Smith and Wes Welker weren't walking through that door. Fire Joe Lombardi. Well, it's like you just were the 1 seed and a 7 nothing lead in the AFC championship game and at a blizzard. I never quite understand when coaches do that. I get it. When you're the jets or the Browns. But what happened? Do you just not like this guy anymore? Which maybe is the case. And other thing that I saw today is Jimmy Haslam, I think, gave us kind of a side press conference. Or maybe this was at the Daisy that he took offense and exception to people calling his organization dysfunctional. Meanwhile, they had countless candidates who they clearly would have hired if would have played out the process, withdraw from his job. He clearly tried to hire a coach that he could pair with his defensive coordinator. Because Jim Schwartz is one of the best DCs in the league. A lot like the Falcons did with Jeff Ulbricht, with Kevin Stefanski. Except that worked. What they did with Jim Schwartz, stringing him along, right. If they had said he's not getting the job, they wouldn't have been able to just hold him around until they got the next coach. He would have taken another job. He would already be the defensive coordinator in, let's say, San Francisco three weeks ago. So was Jim Schwartz ever getting the job? I think it's pretty clear no, he wasn't. They wanted to hire an offensive coach and they wanted to convince Jim Schwartz to stay. But they convinced Jim Schwartz, at least on his side, that he had a chance to get the job, which I don't think he ever did. And once he doesn't get the job, especially for Todd Monkin, I think he knows I got played the whole time. And the Browns are leaking out like, well, he's under contract. Well, guys, that's not how the business works. This isn't a player. If you're not going to hire him as the coach and you are going to hire another coach, like, those guys, look around the league, are kind of free to leave. And Jim Schwartz has already cleared out his office. Double middle fingers is pissed off, which I totally understand. But your job search was led by the idea that candidates had to do homework and write essays for your hiring committee. That is embarrassing. And if that's not your idea, which I doubt it is, allowing that idea to go down to me is even worse. Like your family has been highly successful in the world of business to let your general manager, assuming it's his idea, conduct that and have that part of the process to me is on you because you've hired this guy. You've been around this business long enough to know, like, this is a bad idea. What are we doing? And it backfired. And the Browns, a lot like the jets who reported that Aaron Glenn after the season had exit meetings with every coach but didn't really tell anyone specifically, like if they were good or if they were going to get fired. But then after the weeks went by, like most human beings would, they just thought that they were just going to keep their job as a position coach, as a coordinator. And then after the AFC and NFC championship games, when the jets have been eliminated for basically a month, he starts firing coaches left and right. I'm sorry, like, I. That to me, is on the owner. And this feels like the owner playing general manager, which consistently happens with the jets and consistently happens with the Browns. And I'll never forget this. When Jim Harbaugh was running out of town in San Francisco and they mutually departed, AKA fired him, Jed York gave a famous press conference locally. And one of the things he said is, well, because a lot of people are asking, in what world are you getting rid of this guy? How is this happening? And it was hard for him to justify it because what he wanted to say is like, I just can't stand him. He's an asshole, right? Because he couldn't say he's a bad coach. He just didn't like him. But he. It was hard to. You can't really say that because then you look like a complete loser. And there was this rumor at the time going around that Jed got kicked out of a. Of a team meeting that basically Jim said, grownups only if it is true. One, I mean, that's one of the craziest things the head coach has ever said to a guy that signs his checks. And two, it's also pretty embarrassing if the owner. I don't believe it's true, but there were enough rumors going around. These guys button heads, the GM button heads. But Jed said, you can't fire the. You can't fire the owner. So it's like, I'm not going to fire myself. We fire people because I stay. And that's true for all these guys now, Jimmy Haslam and Woody Johnson. It's pretty clear at this point in time, these organizations have no chance with either guy. And the sad part is it's not one of those situations where it's like, well, these, these guys just kind of lack the big time money to play with the big boys. Like, that's not the Browns problem. They spend as much cash as, like the Eagles and the 49ers. Over the course of the last four years, Jimmy Haslam has spent huge money. Woody is swimming in dough. So it's not a lack of money. It's like when the Miami Dolphins guys were hired, watching their press conference they said, listen, thing that fired me up is when Steven Ross looked at both of us in the interview process and said we will not lose for lack of resources. You will get whatever you need for whatever you need. And the Browns and the jets fall under that category of like money ain't their problem. It's a decision making situation and these guys just can't stay out of their own way and they're clearly extremely involved and they clearly have a lot of opinions, which is their prerogative because they own the team. But it's also a terrible way to operate and something that is never going to work and they have no chance. The jets have absolutely. Aaron Glenn's a dead man walking there. He's. I would put his over under getting fired by like Halloween. And I'm, I'm. I was pro Aaron Glenn at Detroit. Now I red flagged him once he got the job and he refused to call the defense and obviously I've double red flagged him when his staff is terrible and he's got to fire everybody. Like if you're going to be the CEO coach, you're going to be very dependent on your staff and you firing everybody ain't a good sign. But this, this Brown situation is pretty similar. I'm not some like Todd Monkin hater, a lot like Aaron Glenn. I thought he was a really good coordinator. But do I think he has any chance on God's green earth to function at just an average level, let alone a high level in Cleveland? No, I don't. I short that situation. I would over and over and over again and I get back to. And whether you think I'm being unfair or not, you force coaching candidates to write essays for your job. I just, I look at you like an embarrassment to the sport, to the profession, to just to life. Like I just think you don't get it. I don't think you understand what you're dealing with. And the other part of it, like they had to do homework. Any coach worth their salt, just like any human being that has any sort of ambition and desire for a gig, especially something like an NFL head coach or CEO job when they interview, would have done their own homework, would be extremely prepared. That's part of their job. I, you know, or that's part of the role of trying to get a job is to come in of like, hey, I've done hours worth of prep on this situation. Now you don't know all the questions that are coming but most high level people would do homework before they sat in an interview chair for a position such as being an NFL head coach. I did a ton of homework when I interviewed to be, you know, essentially an intern. It was like the lowest guy on the totem pole with the Philadelphia Eagles my first year. I mean, I spent hours and the Internet was a little different back then, but did everything I could. Not that it didn't ended up mattering at all, but I can't even imagine what it's like being a head coach or interviewing for a head coach. The amount of time and tape you watch and people you call and connections you try to make in preparation. So to force someone to do your homework like the same, the same. This ain't the Ivy Leagues, buddy. This is the NFL. So just I feel for Browns fans, I feel for jets fans because as long as those two guys own it, think you're at a huge, huge disadvantage. 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John Middlekauff
Okay, before we dive into the mailbag, a couple fugazes. One big fugazi, which was on full display this week. I'm out on the subjective awards, right? To me, you win the NBA championship, you win the US Open, the Seattle Seahawks in a week, win the super bowl. That is an honor in which they've earned, right? It is objective. There's no. People ain't voting on it. You just, you just earn the right by winning the game, by winning the tournament. You win the Australian Open, you do whatever you win, you get the trophy. Yet so many things as we see with the hall of Fame, with the Pro bowl is no longer the Pro bowl. Like we need to cancel that. I think we're all in agreement. But the hall of Fame, you know, the guy from Kansas City wrote the article, wrote an article why he didn't vote for Bill. And one of the things in the article was he didn't want to pass on these old timers that if he didn't vote for them now, they would be off the ballot and never get to go in. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know? If you've been on the ballot that long, you're probably not a Hall of Famer. There is not a ballot in which someone like Bill Belichick or Ray Lewis or Tom Brady or Bill Walsh or now Andy Reid, like certain guys go on it, they're just an automatic check. We live in a society of winners and losers. And even with the winners, people separate at the top. There are a lot of rich people, right? Some guys are worth $100 million. And some people are Bezos and Elon. There's always separating factors, right? Just like, hey, I know this guy played in the NFL for 10 years as a rotational player. Hey, I know Peyton Manning, right? There's a big difference in those two guys. They both played in the NFL. And if you have to vote for some guy because he's not going to be on the ballot in a year, he probably didn't deserve to be in the hall of Fame. I can't speak to Roger Craig a little before my time. 49er. Obviously, he was a really good player and a really key guy, but if it's taken him this long and there's this many debates, he's probably not a Hall of Famer. There's never been a room where people have sat talking about football and go, you think Bill Belichick's hall of Famer? There's never been a sane human being that went, no. All of their immediate responses were, yes. Unless you're Bill Polian and you're just angry at life. And I know his son's on Twitter today, pissed off. It's like, I. I've said this forever. I never blame brothers, sisters, parents, kids, wives. Like, when they say emotional things on social media after wins and losses. Like, people like, of course they're. They're emotionally tied to the situation. In a different. Like, that's his wife. She sleeps in the same bed as the guy every night. So, yeah, she's allowed to say stupid. And I, I don't hold Brian Polian for getting mad. At the same time, like, I'm sorry, like, his dad doesn't look great in this situation, but neither do the guys that didn't vote for him. And however you want to justify it, there is no way to come around to say, yeah, I took. I checked this guy's box over that guy's box. You just can't. Especially when those guys boxes. It's like, well, it came down between Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Bill Belichick, and I only got to vote for two out of the three. And I leaned with the players like, okay, I. I would be like, well, that, that's an understandable argument, but you can't be like, hey, there's some old timers from the 60s and 70s and 80s. Like, if they've been on this long, sorry, see you later. Peace. Adios. So these subjective awards in Hollywood, in music, in. In football, they've never meant that much to me. And now it's like I just don't even take them seriously. Couple other things on I was texting with a buddy in the NFL and I said, he has some young kids. He's my age, give or take. I said, how did you have babies in the middle of the season? You know, this guy Grinder, only home for three or four days, you know, during the week, sleeping probably six or seven hours maximum, right? So he's coming home, going to bed, getting up early, out, he's like, you kind of live a different life than your wife. And I've always judged, I had kids later, right? I'm 40 and I've always judged people with kids. Like million people have kids. It's not that hard. Like your life's not that difficult. And I was texting them the other day and I said, you know what's crazy is having a kid or having kids and relating to single people or people without kids. It's like playing in the NFL versus playing peewee football. It's not even a comparable situation. I was looking at my wife, I'm like, you know, the crazy part about this is we can't be like, hey man, we don't have to do anything on Saturday. No work for you, no work for me. We could just sleep in, go get some brunch, just hang out and do nothing. Those days, there's not just a day off, it doesn't exist. And I've always judged these people that kind of look down upon us, childless individuals of like, God, their life's easy. I was like, man, I kind of understand it now. I get you. You can't really relate. Especially with the young kid situation. It is, it's not easy. I mean just, it's just relentless. It's just non stop. It's like, you know, like when the rain comes, eventually, you know, the rain's gonna stop and the sun will come out, maybe a rainbow fires out, rain just keeps on coming. There's another pee, there's another, there's another cry, there's another. Awake at 2am and it's just, I get it. And this is also falls under the category of I had my college roommate's girlfriend that I think we kind of lost touch after school. I think they got married and got a bad divorce. But she used to, she was cool at the time. Not sure exactly what happened, but I probably would have bet against it working long term back in like 2008, so not totally surprised that they didn't last. She used to call me judging John. And it was actually turned out to be appropriate, you know, got into scouting, got into radio where I talk about other people. Like I'm. I could be a little judgmental that there's no way around it. That's why I think I've had success at this. I have a lot of opinions on a lot of things that don't have anything to do with me. And maybe I've always been like that. It's the way my brain works and I've always thought and I'm sure I'm not alone. Like being a stay at home mom, I look down upon it but it's like, can't be that hard. Like give me a break now. I, I will stand by. Once your kids are in like junior high and high school, like you got a lot of time to go to the gym, hang out. There's not that much to do to their middle of the day. But there is no doubt in my mind that being a stay at home mom early on when the baby's born those first several years is way more challenging than the majority of our jobs. Way more challenging. I would rather you put me out in the fields with a hoe again. Back when I was like 18, I'd get thrown out in the tomato fields or the construction crew when I was 19, summer of college that were fucking in 110 degrees. It was hard. I mean it was not easy. I couldn't do the, I mean I do the kid for like an hour. I'm like, I need a break. I mean it's a lot, lot of respect. So while I could be judgmental and have been for a long time, I'll take the L on that. That's to think that just like staying at home with the kid is easy once you see it firsthand. Because it's one thing when you see other kids like get the helicopter in, helicopter out, when it's just yours and you just stare at it and you're like, this thing ain't going away. These cries, these bathroom breaks, this just disasters on a daily basis of curveballs. It's not easy. So ton of respect for, you know, the moms out there just staying at home, that, that is, it's hard. It's, it's a big time challenge now it's early age. Once you get to high school, I, I, I stand by. I'm not quite sure what you do all day, but early on for sure, ton of respect, A lot of respect. Couldn't do it, can't do it. Would do it if I had to, but don't plan on it. So hat tip to you guys.
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John Middlekauff
Okay, let's dive into the mailbag at John Middelkoff. At John Middelkoff is the Instagram. Fire into those DMS and get your questions answered here on the show. I've heard Chiefs media saying they need a rebuild. I've heard media saying the Chiefs need a rebuild. Not necessarily like the local media. I think you trade McDuffie, Spags, Veach have done well getting DBs later in the draft, Watson, Snead and Williams because he's going to get paid like a top three DB in the league. Then you trade Chris Jones and load up on picks. Then you get a few key pieces in the, in the draft or trade some picks for veteran free agents to fill some gaps. Chris Jones is going to get traded this off season. I will be stunned if Chris Jones on the team. I, I can't see it. Travis Kelsey, who's in the Pro Am on Wednesday at the Waste Management. I, I think we've seen the last of him. So of the Mahomes, Kelsey, Chris Jones kind of tandem. I, I think two of them are gone and they have the ninth pick in the draft. I had a buddy send me a pick of Veech on the sideline at the Senior Bowl. I mean, this is a massive draft for the Chiefs. They not only have the ninth pick, I mean they just have a high pick in every round. So if they can nail the ninth pick and get an elite player and if with their next couple picks they can get starters like they could plug holes really, really quick and kind of bottom feed a little on free agents. But get guys that want to come there and win, I'm with you. I think I would fully expect them to go a defensive lineman with the ninth overall pick. The Detroit Lions have hired OC Drew Petzing from Arizona, along with adding Mike Kafka yesterday. Any thoughts about these additions? I've never met Drew, but people I know in the league, I've always thought really highly of them. And I think people clearly Dan Campbell hiring him after the Arizona situation, I thought watching them play last year with Jacoby Brissette was pretty impressive. You know, the Kyler Murray situation was a disaster and Jonathan Gannon signed up for a coaching job, which I get it. There are only so many in the league with him under contract and it backfired. And I mean a huge reason he got fired was their quarterback situation and he got injured and then he just wasn't any good. And then he essentially got benched for Jacoby Brissette, which was the right move. But toward the end of the like I I watched games where Jacoby was just playing well throwing for a bunch of yards. I think one game against the Ners he threw 450. Last game of the season he was slinging against the Rams who were trying so you give him golf, you give him St. Brown, you give him Jameson Williams, Laporta. I mean I it's got to be better than Johnny Morton. Will the Seahawks potentially get to keep Kubak because teams like the Raiders won't want to wait. Why? As of recording this Thursday afternoon, it sure feels like the Raiders are going to get Kubiak and it does also feel like Mendoza is a Shanahan Kubiak type player. Like I I think that system is tailor made for his skill set. So makes a lot of sense now the leadership, commanding a room. I don't you know he's only been a coordinator for a couple years but yeah, I mean I I like the higher from the Raiders When a kicker gets hurt during a game why is the punter completely not able to execute field goals? I've never been to an NFL practice but do these special but what do these specials do during the week? Wouldn't you think the only carry one guy each on game day you would spend some extra time on certain emergency situations during the practice week. Not asking for long attempts but an extra point or anything inside 40. I think you would be shocked. They don't do much. It's not like they spend one. You got to save your legs and you go to these practices if it's not and this would be college too if it's not. Special teams practice sometimes they're just hanging out on the side kind of dicking around. So you know, I, I think you got to be careful about not throwing out your leg and injuring yourself. They're called specialists for a reason. It's a very specialized kind of situation. So I don't really know what to tell you. Ideally yes, my punter should be able to make a extra point and my field goal kicker should be able to just get off a punt. But we have seen time and time again that they can't. So I think at this point in time it's safe to say it's not because like just they're just not able to. It is a very, very specific thing, the kicking field goals and the punting and there just aren't many guys that can do both. But part of the reason that a lot of these coaches don't respect those positions because they look around practice, they're just dicking around, eating sunflower seeds, packing a chew, hanging out. Meanwhile you're running goal line full padded practices in training camp and they're drinking Gatorade with the trainers on the sideline. I live in Denver and I was at the AFC Chip game. The weather was not nearly as bad as it looked on TV and 100% not as bad as it has been talked about. You could see and it was not terribly cold. I'm sure Chicago was colder and felt colder. I don't think we were judging it on the cold. I think most people that once they showed the behind view Drake may miss an out route. It was the wind. It is extremely hard to play in wind. There have been way colder games in the last five years. In that game, to me on TV it looked like you couldn't see. But when you watch them pass like they knew where they were throwing it to. It was the wind on the, on the kicks, on the passes. To me the wind. Players will gladly play in 10 degrees if there's no wind, but I would much rather play if I was a quarterback or a wide receiver. 15 degrees, no wind. You tell me it's 35 degrees, but it's 30 mile an hour winds. It's really really difficult to play. So to me that was the factor of the swirling winds. What role do OCs and DCs play when their head coach is calling plays on that side of the ball? After Peyton fired the Broncos OC and hearing his reasoning, it seems like the coordinators they don't call plays are always somewhat sitting in a lame duck position. I totally agree. I, I don't know if there was a certain situation that happened. I, I read some of Joe Lombardi's quotes. He kind of took the high road by also saying like I thought we were pretty good. I thought we were close friends but clearly got the sense over the last couple months something was up. They're definitely in a lame duck situation because like Sean, you're the play caller. I think they depend on those guys from a game planning standpoint. From a situational standpoint, those guys are heavily involved during the week. On third down on goal line, on first and second down, on must have downs, short yardage, you know, two point plays. But I to me it can be. It's got a little fugazi element to it. Like are you just firing a guy to fire a guy? Are you just firing a guy to mix it up? Does the owner want these guys fired? Because it doesn't make that much sense. Like, you guys are pretty well coached. You guys pretty good quarterback can be a little hit or miss and, and people are interviewing the quarterback coach to be the head coach. So I, I don't know, maybe they just fired everybody to elevate Davis Webb, assuming he's not going to get a job. But I, I don't know. They do play a big role, but they're also in a weird spot. Like they're not going to get criticized by the public or the media, but internally the coach can turn on them and like you said, be an easy fall guy. It's like, well, I didn't call that play and maybe did. I mean, they, they definitely are in the headsets and give it ideas. So only the people in the headsets truly know their impact. Like maybe some places they kind of influence and call more plays, you know, because sometimes a play call, it's like, hey, you know, I, I send in the second down call. I'm the, I'm the play caller, slash head coach. I get on the headset, I'm like, hey, what do you guys like if we don't get this on third and short? And I, I chime in with play X and the coach goes, okay, I like it. And then I go with it. And if it works like the head coach gets the credit, not that guy, or vice versa, it fails. Like I get shit on. So it's, it's kind of a weird position to be in. It's one of those. I mean, it pays a decent amount, so it's not like guys are not going to turn down those jobs. But to me, I think you'd rather just be the quarterback coach or the offensive coordinator who's calling the plays. I understand the Titans have been a joke over the past few years, but I think more people should be talking about Cam as a future start with absolutely no one at wide out, no run game. He put up 3,000 yards, 17 touchdowns and seven, seven interceptions. From week 11 on, he totaled 12 touchdowns. I understand Cam isn't the same caliber athlete as Drake, but some of the tight throws down the field Cam made all year are absolutely ridiculous. Do you think he has what it takes? He definitely has a lot of physical gifts. Like you said, he can sling it. His highlight plays are sick. So there is no disputing. There is talent there to work with. And you get day ball who has molded. It's not apples to apples, but kind of a raw product and turned them into or, you know, played a role in turning him into a star. So I think Day Ball, I saw Salah had a quote, like, he's the right guy for this job. If I'm a Titans fan, I'm most excited to get day ball to work with this guy who you kind of get to mold. And like you said, he made some plays. He had some really sweet plays against the 49ers, the team. I kind of look at it like Drake May last year, Like Caleb Williams last year, Like Jared Goff his first year. The team was such a joke. Like, what am I even supposed to take away? What judgment am I even supposed to have? I look at him no different than when he was coming out of college. Big arm, playmaker, good athlete. Not really a runner, but a scrambler to throw. If I'm a Titan fan, I'm excited. Like, he's. Let's look in your division. He's physically more gifted than C.J. stroud, obviously. He's more gifted than Colts, whatever the hell they got. And he's a stronger arm than Trevor. Trevor's a better athlete. Do you think there has ever been any other team in all of sports better to root for over the past 20 years than the New England Patriots? I cannot believe they're back in the Super Bowl. I hope Seattle stomps them P S. It's Wednesday, and my throat still hurts. I think I'm permanently damaged from my hearing from being at the game. What an atmosphere. I think it's a Denver fan. It doesn't get much better, man. You could argue. Can you imagine being a Boston fan, like, my age, like, coming in junior high, high school, around 2001, 2002, 2003, where the Red Sox won four, World Series, came back. I mean, it kind of started with Brady01, then the red Sox breaking the curse. Coming back from the Yankees 3. Nothing with just an incredible squad. Big Poppy, Manny the Sock game, Pedro Martinez, just Tito Francona. That team was. When I used to work in local radio. Kevin Euclid, because we talked a lot of baseball because of the Giants and the A's. Kevin Euclid used to come in with Eric Burns and do, like, local talk, like, in studio. And I remember just hanging out with Euclis and just. I remember just picking his brain about some of the Red Sox stuff. And they just. He. He actually said something I'll never forget. He's like, the championship teams he played on and the best teams he played on. The first, you know, reaction from any player, the first thing they'd always say was, yes. It was like, hey, we need you to bat ninth. Yes. Hey, we need you to play left field today. Yes. Hey, you're down today. No problem. He's like the weird teams were people that pushed back and said no a lot. And it's like I think that actually carries over a lot. A lot of different areas of life. Basically just be a good teammate now. It's not always right, it's not always going to work. And sometimes like the is a terrible idea. But obviously when you had Terry Francona and what's his name, Theo Epstein kind of running the show, it's. It's easy to say yes because their moves are working. But from then to KG and Paul Pierce, to Brady and the Patriots again to the Celtics a couple years ago. Yeah, man, I, I don't know what to say. It doesn't. I think Boston's had no. Aries had a better Internet age. Not even close. I mean look at the impact. I think Dave Portnoy would be the first Barstool sports was built on the Patriots. Think about that. Espn, where are they based? That area. I mean it's, it's been good for a lot of people in this business. Now the Rams season is over, do they quietly get on the phone and start shopping? Puka are so many red flags. I get that he's a young baller and maybe you're not the most spun up on social issues and don't deeply think about the bigger implications of the little Jewish joke. But I mean to not have the self awareness to say no. Going on a greedy touchdown dance. Are you a complete idiot? What can you trust him not to do on camera while his brother boosts a celebrity car like this can be a walking liability. Plus the way he plays is not going to last. McVeigh has sped up his destruction of Cooper cup script on him. What do you think? Cut ties at his peak. I will say this on the dance one, I remember not being on the Internet that day and seeing people ask McVeigh about it after the game. I'm like what is going on? Then I had it described to me. I saw Craig Carton, who I'm pretty sure is Jewish said, I've never even seen that before. I never had either. Once, once I saw the clip. Whoever the guy, one of the streamer guys he did it with, you know, I, I feel pretty up to date with just, you know, my 40 years of life. Derogatory slurs, whatever. I think you've been around the Internet long enough, you've kind of seen it all. Never seen that one. So I. I take him at his words. Like, he had no clue what that was. Because I know where I'm sitting. I would have had no clue what that was. So I think there are certain things you'd be like, yeah, guy's a complete. I do think Sean McVay got his back in the sense that, like, I don't think he knew what that was. And Sean McVay, like, myself, was like, honestly, I don't even know Street. Like, what the hell is this? Right? I'm not even talking about the dance. I'm just talking about, like, the people he was with. Again, there are different demos. Like, who are these people? But that's part of the world we live in. Like, Puka is not going to be the first or last guy to hang out with some of these really famous streamers. I hear what you're saying. I. I think you would be open to anything. It's the NFL. I do think it's pretty hard to replace a guy that just is pretty clearly as dominant a player as any in the league. Now. Am I going to pay him Justin Jefferson money? I. Yeah, it's only. They truly know, like, maturity wise, kind of got a big head. Is it just immaturity? Is it just being a little naive? You know, thrust from BYU to the. To Los Angeles, being the superstar. A lot of different variables there. But I would be a little shocked if he's not on the Rams next year. If you told me that they trade him this offseason, I would say there's a lot more going on there that I had no clue about. And we didn't know. I don't think they would just trade him because of the Internet dance. I mean, there are guys doing all sorts of criminal activity that teams don't even hesitate to bring back. And Puka's way better than those cats. So I. My answer is, I say this all the time. We ain't teaching life lessons in the NFL. Like, you got to apologize for stuff, but it's kind of fake. No one actually, like, in the league's about making money and winning games. Everything else is, I mean, let's be real, kind of for show. I mean, it kind of is. There are two goals in this league. That's why so many guys that get in trouble keep their jobs, because they can help. And if you can produce, you get kept around. And he can produce at the highest of levels. He couldn't be stopped against Seattle. Couldn't be stopped. They're like the best defense in the league. And he annihilates them, but he does it to everybody. He's incredible. Typically if like the guy was I had a thing before Brandon Ayuk fell off the the deep end. I was like, I would get rid of this guy. He's getting 75 balls a year. I would not pay him $30 million in a run. First offense Sean McVeigh is a pass first guy. Kevin OConnell doubled down. Jordan Addison paid Jefferson Jefferson. I run a passing offense, so of course I'm going to keep those guys. Kind of crazy looking back that coach Reed shipped out Tyreek in his passing offense, but that that was more of a financial thing. But I I, I would doubt that. I'd be stunned if Puka Naku was not on the team next year. St.
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John Middlekauff
Is it possible the media in the NFL wanted to put Belichick and Brady in the hall of Fame on the same year to make more of a spectacle of their inductions, being that they were together for the vast majority of their career? If it's going to work out that way, great. But I, I don't think that's. I think it was much more the vendetta slash people trying to get in, the older guys slash the Spygate thing. I don't think it had anything to do with Tom. Is that Tom eligible next year? He's already been retired five years. Kind of crazy. I followed Giselle on Instagram one. How'd she have a baby at like 46 years old? Is that even, how's that even possible? I guess she got great genetics. She put her new baby with her new husband in his jiu jitsu outfit. I thought about. I kind of put myself in Tom's shoes seeing obviously it's like whatever, divorce, but just she just has a kid in her mid-40s with, you know, Karate Kid. It's like what the is going on here? That. That divorce she. I don't know. It's obvious that Tennessee has been a mess the last few years and made some big mistakes. One thing this offseason did show is that they are still not the Browns or the jets they were in on Harbaugh and Stefanski and seems to have at least some mutual interest. Robert Sala said this was his destination even before the end of the season and Brian Daboll picked this team up over other opportunities like Philly. My question is, does the league think higher of Cam Ward than the public? We know the Giants tried hard to trade up to get them or is Mike Borgonzi just really thought of highly? I think it was pretty clear. Rumors have been they were willing to spend big money. They would have bought John Harboff $100 million too. I think Robert Sol and Brian Dbal did not come cheap so they are willing to open the checkbook. It's a great place to live and you kind of get a clean slate. So I'm with you. Like their job is way less toxic. Robert Sala would not have taken the Browns job and he already took the jets job and it was a disaster. So I think he goes, little lighter market, little easier landing spot. I do think the owner's pretty nuts from what I've heard. But hey, she's paying me a ton of money. I ideally just deal with Bonzi who is very highly thought of. But I'd be stunned if Saul is not making some big time coin. I I bet he's really highly paid. Opinion on the Belichick story. To compare this to baseball, I think the Baseball hall of Fame stuff with the voters not voting for guys that are obvious choices. I think Ichiro or Griffey had a few guys not vote for them. I remember because they don't want anyone to be like a unanimous first ballot hall of Famer. Like you can be a first ballot hall of Famer, but unless you're like Babe Ruth or I don't know, Nolan Ryan or Mickey Mantle, you can't get unanimous votes. I'm not a huge unwritten rule guy. Like who made that up? You can't be unanimous. Bill can't be a first ballot hall of Famer like Ichiro Suzuki has to get 96. I remember Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez. Both of them got like 97% of the votes. Can you imagine Randy Johnson coming up on the hall of Fame and not checking his name? It's like, you know what? I bet everyone on this in this room is going to vote for Greg Maddox. He should. We got to keep the sanctity that Babe Ruth is the only unanimous hall of Famer. I'm not checking Greg Maddox's box. It's like, you, sue sir, are a fucking idiot. I just think I think the Bill thing, I do think the Kansas City guy that wrote his article, one, he, it wasn't even like what he said made sense. He just wanted to vote for the older guys because they would have disappeared off the ballot, like I said earlier. And I think this isn't that complicated. Those older guys aren't as deserving as Bill. And if you've had to wait on the ballot that long, should you get in? It's hard for me to talk about guys I didn't watch. You know, I remember Ken Stabler when I was doing Raider stuff, who was a legendary quarterback in the 70s, Super bowl champion quarterback for John Madden and Al Davis took him forever to get in and then by the time he finally got in, he was dead. It's, you know, it's, I, I, I didn't watch him. Besides, like most people said, like Ken Stabler is a Hall of Famer and I get certain guys like Eli Manning didn't get in. I think we could debate Eli Manning. Are we just, is he just getting in because he got really hot in the two super bowl runs and they were remarkable. But isn't the hall of Fame about your entire career or just about the two years? I don't know. But to me, Eli Manning is like a legit debate in the room and I got no problem if it takes him years to get in. Right. But like when Bill Belichick or Tom Brady or Ray Lewis or, you know, you, Aaron Donald, you just get up, I'm presenting Aaron Donald. And you sit down, stand up. I'm presenting Trent Williams. And I sit down, I'm presenting Bill Belichick, and I sit down and you just vote for those players. Just like I get up, I'm presenting Greg Maddox, I'm presenting Randy Johnson, I'm presenting the basketball hall of Fame's kind of convoluted, includes college, but baseball and football, it's like, it's pretty clear. Like now the, the steroid thing makes a little complicated, I guess, but who knows who was on it. Like I would vote the steroid guys in. Showed my wife the fugazi Friday clip of the newborn clothes and we were both laughing. We go through a lot of clothes, I'll tell you that much. I, I'm a huge believer. I've said this before. I even knew what it was like to have a kid just use towels and wraps, diaper towels and wraps, ruins them, no big deal. But to do the clothes, the onesies which he's going to ruin, and then do a towel over that which sometimes the diaper's not on perfectly gets ruined as well. You're, you're just ruining a lot of stuff. And the diaper, which I had a buddy that said he has a young kid too, said he counted, he went through 19 diapers. I think if you did it like 12 midnight to 12 midnight the following day. So you basically just start counting the first bathroom break at 1, 2, 3 in the morning or whatever and just go through the following day. I think the number would probably be in the high teens, low 20s. Crazy how many diapers you go through. I didn't even realize. She mentioned something yesterday like, what kind of diapers you think are working the best? I just assume, like Pampers Huggies. We don't use those. What do you mean? Just the normal diapers that you get at, like the store. No, those have toxins or whatever. It's like we get these diapers and like we have three different kinds because they don't have, I don't know, whatever on them. I had no clue. I mean, we got like seven different styles of diapers. I mean, not styles, they all kind of look the same, but different brands. This baby business is just, there are people wherever you live living in the biggest houses and it, you know, know that have second, third and fourth homes that are in the baby, the baby business. They are, they're like the Federal Reserve. They are just printing coin. Just cash is flown. Ching cha, ching, cha, ching ching. I mean, it's, I'd argue it's on a short list of best businesses to be in. It couldn't be much better. I mean, everything cost expensive. You need a ton of it, especially the stuff that's replaced. It's just, you go through it like this and it's like, okay, my kid ages out. The next group of people have young kids. You go to these baby, you know, the baby section in the hospitals is baby after baby after baby after baby, day after day after day after day. God, I got in the wrong profession. Is it an overreaction, say the Bills? Very possibly just put the nail in the coffin of Josh career with Brady promotion. In my opinion, I think Joe Brady offense is uninspired, say the least. But Josh puts the needle needed lipstick on the pig and wills them to the playoffs. I understand the coaching market wasn't as good as years past, but how is this the right move? Like I said earlier, I was impressed. I was impressed. I, I, I thought it was based on the press conference and based on his understanding of McDermott. Like, I'm going to reserve judgment to say it's not going to work. Now he's to me leadership and handling the players pretty clearly. He's got that. But like you said scheme, you know, to be a great offensive head coach, if you're not going to be like Sirianni, you got to be dynamic play caller, right? McVeigh, Kyle LaFleur, I mean look at the floor. I mean he's. You talk shit about him, Packer fans, but I saw Jordan Love go down. Who, let's face it, Jordan Love's a good player. I mean he's not ideally, he's not making $50 million a year. To me, in a normal world where not everyone makes the same like where guys like Tua and Kyler also get huge money. Jordan loves like $28 million quarterback. If the top guy is making 55, 60, Jordan loves making half that. He's a good player. You can go to the playoffs with him. But like he needs a lot of help around him. He disappears. Starts winning. With Malik Willis, I mean, let's face it, Malik Willis came in at different times and like looks fantastic. Like lafleur gets credit for that. So to me, if Brady can just dominate as a play caller and they can improve the roster, they should be pretty good. I mean they're gonna be good if Josh Allen's healthy. He's on crutches now. I actually had that information like two weeks ago from a little inside source, but I was sworn to secrecy. The Josh was going to need off season surgery. Nothing, nothing serious, just a little broken bone in his foot. He'd been playing with for a while. He tough SOB man. You know, people always think California like San Francisco, Los Angeles. There's three California's, There's San Francisco, Los Angeles and then there's the Central Valley. The people in the Central Valley, the farming community I would say don't have that much in common with like Hollywood and like some of the districts in San Francisco. So California gets painted with like one brush. It's where Josh Allen comes from is a little different than like Manhattan beach, you know, or Berkeley, California. So we got California's a big state and tough people in the Valley. It's. It gets hot as shit. It's warm. I lived in Fresno, it could be 110. A lot of tough farmers, a lot of blue collar people. You know, the blue collar nature of that area in California hasn't changed as much as it has in like San Francisco and la. Because you can't just afford to live in those Areas just working normal people jobs. Question for the bag. What's really stopping teams from just promoting their OC and DC and moving on from their head coach when let's be real. The success of non play caller head coaches was heavily driven by the coordinator. The Lions, Ravens and Eagles are good examples. Harbaugh benefited from McDonald's. Lamar got his tenure extended. McDonald walks while the head coach stays and then he gets let go. The Eagles move on from stiking and more and now nobody wants to touch the OC position. I think it's easier said than done. Like what are you supposed to do? When Mike McDonald became the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks they had just been the number one seed in the AFC championship. Now if they could do it all over again. I talked, I recorded with Stuckey about it today. Of course they would have done it knowing what they know now. They would have fired John Harbaugh, elevated Mike McDonald. That, that would have been pretty insane at the time. Time so it's always easier to look back of like God, what did I do? Well at the time like it wasn't that crazy of a move and sometimes like that person also Mike went to a great spot. Like if Mike McDonald's the Jets coach or the Browns coach probably doesn't go as well. Like props to Mike for understanding like go to John Schneider. Great infrastructure. They landed the quarterback like it's just a well run operation. But I, I, I just think that. Were you going to hire Kellen Moore, Shane Steen, like listen, I, Shane Stichen feels like a smart guy. Philip Rivers likes him but what has he done now? He can call the plays. Because you dabble in the stock market, are you dabbling in sports futures? What's your opinion on it? I do some NFL futures every year. This year I hit one of the biggest parlays I've ever hit. $100 on the division champs, Seattle, Pittsburgh. I mean I got pretty lucky, right? I mean thank God for the kicker from Arizona, Seattle, Pittsburgh, New England and the Denver Broncos. $100 to win 7,300. I might have made a couple bets. So I walked away with about 5k. But I like doing that. I've done future bets on who's going to win the national championship in college football. I'll probably do one here in the next couple weeks. In college basketball just it's just fun to have a couple hundred dollar bets that are like 20, 30 to 1. I like having the juice. Gives me a reason to watch. Especially like something like college basketball or maybe like, what are you going to do, put minus 100, minus 110 on the Dodgers to win the World Series? Usually, like, I'll throw. I'll take like 500 bucks and put 250 each on two teams in the NHL just to kind of pay attention. I just get my juices flowing. I, I do it in golf, but I usually bet that week. So when you say futures, do you mean, like, over the course of the season? I don't have the patience to do much. Like, I'll do a couple. I don't have like 20 bets on futures. That's not really my thing. Partly because I'm more of like a immediate gratification guy. So I like betting on games or betting like, you know, like when I make my golf bets, I bet on that tournament on a Wednesday. The tournament starts on Thursday. That I did a Super bowl bet this year, which I cashed out in December. I might do a couple more of those next year, but that's probably the extent of my doing it. Seahawks fan, the super bowl looming. Clint Kubiak is reported to be interested in taking the Raider job after Liam Cohen, Shane St. And Mike McDonald all leaving their old teams and regretting it at all. Leaving their old teams, Reg. Oh, the old teams regretting it. At what point are we. I, I think the Shane Sagan thing's a little overblown. Like, let's not act like he's John McVeigher or Andy Reid. Like, it's good coach seems like a good guy, but I don't know. Let's closer to Mike McDaniel than he is some superstar. To put Shane Steichen right there with. Liam Cohen just was the two seed, or I guess the three seed, but his team was. He turned the Jags or 13 wins with the Jags. Mike McDonald's in the super bowl. So I can't, I can't compare Shane to those guys, but I hear what you mean. Not trying to shit on your point, but at what point are we going to see teams pay head coaching money to coordinators on the opposite side of the ball as their head coach? Obviously, McDonald is the boss. Pay him 20 million works for me. But why can't we pay Clint 15 to 8,18 million to get him to stay? I imagine the Eagles, the Bucks and the Ravens all regret this. Well, one, let's just say you do that Mike McDonald, who's probably going to get a contract extension maybe this off season, you then have to give him more money than your quarterback. Or I mean, the Your coordinator. Because remember the one year Jason Garrett was making more than Wade Phillips. That was like 15 years ago. But it was like Jason Garrett might become the head coach of the Miami Dolphins. So Jerry matched the Miami Dolphins salary. Turns out it was more than his own head coach. You can't do that. You just. Then why don't you just make him the head coach? Which you wouldn't do with Mike McDonald. But is it part of, like, paying Mike McDonald that money is like, him to build a staff? It's like, okay, Kubiak goes to the Raiders because, yeah, you can pay him whatever you want. Shouldn't you have the capability of, like, okay, who's the next Kubiak? There are a million Shanahan McVeighs and Kevin OConnells all over the league. And LaFleur go hire one of their minions to do that same thing. The system's already built in. You have a guy on staff, one of Kubiak's guys. Elevate him. That's part of the job of the head coach. And if you say, well, what if it entices him to say, well, because he can be the head coach. Like, being a head coach is better than being the assistant if you are an ambitious person that wants to sit at the head of the table. So it. You could pay him a lot of money. But if my ambition is to take the job that I think is going to be pretty good, like the Raiders, kind of interesting job if you believe in Fernando Mendoza. If you just think he can be Jared Goff with a little more mobility, like, that's a pretty intriguing prospect. I've seen Jared Goff win a lot of games, made Sean McVeigh and Dan Campbell a lot of money. So if I'm Kubiak and go like it's kind of his comp, I'm fucking in. It's like, it's on then the GM to build up this team, let's trade Max, let's start this thing over, let's build this up. Or keep Max and build around. But you got options. Like, to me, the Raiders a pretty interesting job when you factor in Mendoza Cardinals. I would take a pay cut to not take that job. You know, I mean, so, yeah, I hear what you're saying. Teams do do that, pay guys a lot of money. But if a guy wants to become a head coach. A guy wants to become a head coach. The quest for the OC, for the Eagles will end on. This has become embarrassing. This is a Super bowl caliber squad all around. I can't help but believe the fans treatment of Kevin Patola has led us to not landing the top options, including Harbaugh. Your opinion? Am I missing a Harbaugh like John Harbaugh? You weren't getting hired. I mean Sirianni wasn't going to get fired, at least to my knowledge. I would say I think that's being a little overblown that some. Who do you think like six 40 year olds egged him? If that was the case then yeah, I'd be like this place is a whack job. Who do you think egged Kevin Patola? My guess would be some 16, 17 year old kids. If you put John Middelkoff, I'm not going third person. I'm just using myself as an example. In Kevin Patola's neighborhood at 15, 16 years old with my buddies, we egged random people we didn't know. We TP'd everybody and anybody. And listen, I'm not proud. We egged a decent amount of people and I think my house got egged. We egged people. I don't know if that still happens as much with ring cameras and cameras. Even though I saw in my next door people put these kids that live right, like kind of down the street in this other cul de sac, have these cool ass electric bikes. Always see them when I'm walking the dog, riding around. They're probably, I don't know, junior high and they're just mobbing around. They doorbell ditch people throughout the neighborhood and people post on next door. It's clearly them. Anyone know these kids? It's like, yeah, I know their kids are right there. I mean I see them every day riding around in the afternoon and my brother was telling me in his like little community it, it happens all the time and the kids don't care. Like all these cameras now boys, are ring cameras. When we used to doorbell ditch people or do whatever, you know, mess with somebody, there were not Cameras didn't exist 25 years ago like they do now. There's probably not a home in most neighborhoods that don't have some sort of cameras on the outside. Definitely most people have the ring doorbell or some version of that. And I just think that to act like people egging your house is indicative of like the gig. It's like guarantee 15, 16 year old boys we do dumb shit. I did the most moronic stuff known to man. If my dad knew 8, 10% of the stuff I did, he might add a hard deck. I mean this, I, I just think that stuff's overblown now as it grows, the narrative, I think the bigger issue is that you get fired if it goes down. And this is a job that is clearly pretty fickle with the quarterback, you know, is he good? Is he bad? Like when he's bad, it looks really bad. There's no disputing, like when he's bad, like there, there's. Let's just go Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Some of these guys, it's like, yeah, they're bad. It's like, okay, but they have so much good. Even Herbert during the season, like, you see the guy, that guy plays. You watch Hertz this year. It's like, what is going on? Here's the other thing. What about the people inside the league? They're like, he won't run anymore. He won't let you call run plays. It's like, well, that's one of his best attributes. He won't want to do it because he wants another contract. He doesn't want to get hurt. Well, it's like how, what plays do I coach him like? Well, he wants to throw in the pocket. I was like, well that's not really what he does. Well, so I, I think it's much more football and I take this job, it could derail my career, right? Because if I'm in the mix for offensive coordinator jobs, if I get the right one, I'm a year or two away from being a head coach. But this job, Brian Johnson, I think I mentioned this the other day. I googled him. He's not even an offensive coordinator. He's just a, you know, a position coach, pass game coordinator, Something with the commanders. I Putula. You think Petula's gone plays next year? No chance. He'd be lucky to get a quarterback job. So the stink the firing puts on you, it. The risk is pretty high, man. So I think it's much more football than like three dudes that live down the street in his country club neighborhood hid, you know, peppering them with fucking eggs, right? And tp, I guess. Welcome to society with young boys running around the streets. This is what we do. We egg ya. Which whoever developed that, it's pretty extreme, like throwing eggs at someone's house. What would I do when my son is of age and someone in retaliation, he aches? Someone 1. If he did that, I'd be on his ass. But what am I? I'd be a hypocrite. It's like I've done it. Someone eggs my house, like, what can you do, right? You know, you're gonna shoot them, but you're not gonna just go out there and clean it with a smile on your face. Like if you catch them red handed, what's the retaliation move? That's my question. It's kind of your no man's land, right? It's not like that bad where you can really do anything, but you definitely want to do something. But what do you do? Just get their parents number and Colin, what are the parents gonna do? Especially in this day and age like Billy, you gotta be. You gotta make smarter decisions. My dad would have like take me to the backyard and throwing eggs at me. Those days are done. This gentle parenting world, James, it's not. That's not a good idea. Say sorry to Mr. Middlekopf, my dad. If I would have ever been caught egging people in my neighborhood, I might not even be here right now. I might not even be here. There's kids in Philadelphia probably laughing all the way with their parents. That's the other thing. It's like you find out like their parents encouraged it. Probably a pretty big red flag. The volume.
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