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Consider this is a daily news podcast and lately the news is about a big question. How much can one guy change?
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They want change.
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What will change look like for energy?
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Drill baby Drill schools. Take the Department of Education. Close it. Health care better and less expensive.
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Promises made, promises kept.
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What is going on everybody? How are we doing, my people? Happy Football Saturday and Football Sunday. Going to be some happy people. Going to be some angry people. Now I guess if you're a Texans fan or a Commie fan, you can't be mad if your squad loses. You know, Bill's Raven, someone's going to be pissed off there. And I would say the it's going to be hard for a Rams fan to be mad. I would say the Eagles would be not be happy. So yeah, we might have some angry people, but hopefully you guys are enjoying football, enjoying life, enjoying your family. Probably a little chilly wherever you are. It's like nine in the morning on Friday and I said, you know what? Having like my third cup of coffee. Let's bang out a little mailbag and we try to do one on the weekend. So make sure you subscribe. If you listen on COLLINS Feed the three now feed, make sure you subscribe to the YouTube channel. Ton of content up there. We will be reacting live tonight to the games after the night game. So after, after the fighting, Dan Campbell's take on the commies, we will have stuff on YouTube and then have the podcast out first thing in the morning. So go check that out as well. But let's just bang out some mailbag questions. Hey John, I'm from Brazil. I've been an NFL fan and an avid football podcast listener for the past eight years. Ravens @ Bills. If the Bills lose, it likely will be because of their defense, which has been struggling lately. With that in mind, my question is what would your strategy be to stop or at least slow down Lamar Jackson and the Ravens offense? Personally, I'd focus on stopping the run at all costs and force Lamar to beat us. I think he's a Bills fan from the pocket. I think that's easy to say. And you know, I was watching, I clicked on Dan Campbell's press conference and he talked about, and Stuckey brought this up, how they've struggled against running quarterbacks. I thought Dan Campbell had a pretty good response. He's like, find me a team who plays running quarterbacks, especially the good ones, who does well, like, there's a reason Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Kyler can have moments. Obviously, Jaden this season, they're tough to prepare for. And I think it's easy to be like, well, just corral him and force him to just get rid of the ball fast. That's easier said than done for your defensive lineman. I also think the hard part about stopping, quote, unquote, the running game when it comes to the Ravens, it's not like you can send two guys each to Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson on some of these plays. And we've seen the Steelers sell out on Lamar Henry go nuts. Sell out on Henry. Lamar go nuts. I don't know if they're. You basically just need him to fumble. You basically also probably need to hit him really hard, which is hard to do because he's not like Jaden. And some of these guys can be a little more reckless when they're running. Like, Lamar's great at doing that little plop. Like he'll just plop to the ground. So I don't know. I think, I think you got to try to create a turnover. You can Just to me, if you had to pick one like Lamar is going to have a couple explosive runs and that's one thing Dan Campbell mentioned. He's like, yeah, Jaden might hit a couple 20 yard runs, tip your hat and move on. I do think it's really hard. I don't think the Bills can win if Derrick Henry is going for, I don't know, 150 plus. Because if he's going for 150 plus, he's probably running the ball 23 to 28 times and it just completely controls the clock. You're off the field. I just, I'm trying to. Looking up the Steelers game, he had 26 carries for 186. I think anything with Derek Henry over 20 plus carries is a problem for the bag. Big Packer fan in Pennsylvania. Love pa. Where do you think the packers biggest error is with the injury set aside? It's hard to complain about love when the transition is from Farve. Great, Rogers great and Love good slash competitive. I agree. I think it'd be like going from first class. First class. You're still sitting in business class. You might not be flying on a private jet, but you're not exactly in the back of Spirit Airlines. Like life's pretty good. I think everyone just needs to take a deep breath and say, hey, this could be a lot worse. The defense improved this year and the Eagles matchup in the playoffs was probably the worst matchup they could have had. You know, I thought I saw Jeff Halfley interviewed. Who do you interview? The jets, the Bears, some of these teams. I mean, the jets and the Bears, holy shit. They interview a lot of people. I mean, my God. So I don't even think I've seen anyone have, have the Jags interviewed a soul. The jets and the Bears have interviewed a combined 500 people. And I don't know if I've seen one headline with the Jaguars. Obviously the Patriots just banged it out and it looks like the Raiders are going to hire Ben Johnson. I just think you need some of your younger players to just become better, right? You need one of those wide receivers to become an all star, right? You need Jordan Love to be a top 10 quarterback. And if your defense is just solid like you should be able to compete in the nfc. It's really that simple. Like one thing. Look at the, look at the two teams above you in your own division. You know, Justin Jefferson is an elite player. Jordan Addison is a high, high end player. Darrisole before he got hurt was like a big time left tackle. So it's like you need some of your guys to become like oh that guy's a star. Obviously the Lions are full of them. Niner fan here. I think we need more draft picks, something around 10. The defense needs fresh players, talent. We are miles off teams like the Eagles, Texans and Chiefs. Defensively yes we have Bosa and Warner who are excellent. Lenore and Greenlaw are good too and Mustafa and Green seem like good players but around them we are mid or even bad. I miss Buckner, Armstead and others. Would you trade back with the 11th pick to accumulate picks or would you trade a player with value? I see only Bosa having big trade value. Would you trade him? No, I would not. I think we've talked about this before. They're going to pay Purdy. They have some guys, you know, Greenlaw is a free agent. So if you have Bosa and you have Warner as cornerstones. Lenore is a really, really good starting corner. Renardo Green, who was their second round pick from Florida State is a looks like he's got a chance to be a good starter. You got a bunch of safety, depth. They you know, Leonard Floyd, Leonard Floyd came on at the end but their defensive line I in the first two picks to me you got to go offensive and defensive line in one of the two orders. Ideally you take a left tackle at pick 11. I don't know if a guy's going to be there but that's what I would do and I would try to take a defensive lineman with my second round pick. It's hard to say trade back and accumulate. You know it becomes difficult to trade back, you know, for non quarterbacks and stuff like there's just not a guarantee that it can happen. And sometimes like I'll go 11 to 14 for you know, a fourth round pick. It's like okay, get an extra pick. But what if I really like two players there at 11 and when I go to 14 neither of them might be there. It's a no brainer when you're drafting one and you don't need a quarterback and you could trade back four spots and accumulate like two first round picks and a second, a third. It's like yeah, some of these picks in the teens when you do swaps like that aren't as sexy. I listen to you and others and all I hear is the draft class sucks. Listen I before I read the rest of your question I think it's easy and I was like this sometimes when I scouted and even now when I talk about football like you can be Jaded. When you say it sucks, it doesn't suck. Obviously there are going to be. All these guys in the first round are very talented players. But there is an element relative to other drafts. Like yeah, there's not Micah Parsons, Panay Sewell, Jamar Chase. Right. You know, got guys Lane Johnson, Trent Williams, J.J. watt, Julio Jones sitting in the top 15 picks. So it's, it's a lot more unknown. I think that's better than sucks because there are, I mean I watch Abdul Carter's really good, Warren's really good, Genti's really good player. I mean I don't some of these guys are going to go higher than others, but you know what I mean. The, the wide receiver from Arizona is a good player. The wide receiver from Missouri is a good player. There are good players, solid tackle prospects. Texas, Banks, Campbell, lsu. Like there are. The running back from North Carolina is a stud. However, I can't remember a draft that has this many later pick project type guys. Riley, Leonard, Will Howard, Jackson Dart, Milro, and to a degree, Quinn, yours. I think the draft will showcase those organizations who excel with projection and development. Can you speak to the difference between a top prospect with relatively average skills or a late round pick talent who is elite at one thing and needs to be developed? I'd personally rather have Jackson Dart in the third round than Shador in the top three picks. I had a scouting buddy text me yesterday. I mean he's just a friend who is a scout and he's like, he's like, I'm just watching Miami right now. He's like this Cam Ward buzz feels a little crazy to me. He's like, I can't see him as the number one overall pick. Now. It's all relative because it's the quarterback class. But I think there are a lot of question marks with the high end guys. So I think when you talk about drafting a guy really high, it has to be a no brainer. The guy's going to be your franchise quarterback. Like look at this, we've talked about this weekend. You know, all these guys in the first round. You know Lamar is a first round pick. But when you take a guy 32, it's like Jordan Love, like you're hoping. But when you look at the other guys, Mahomes 10, Josh Allen, 7, Goff 1, Stroud 2, Jaden 2. You know, those guys were projected to be your franchise guy. The expectation for those guys are stupid high. They really are. And I think that's why you take Shador and Cam Ward like Can the guy be C.J. stroud and Jaden Daniels? Because if he can't, then I'd have, I would just take Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter. So when you look at the other guys, when you, when you look at like third and fourth round quarterbacks, usually the coaching staff plays a big role. Obviously the GM and your scouts should like the player. But when you look at non like top 50 quarterbacks, usually someone's banging the table and feels very passionate about the player. You know, famously, Russell Wilson was pushed heavily by John Schneider. Pete Carroll looked at him and was like, this guy's too short. I mean, this guy, he would have been the smallest player at usc. So I think he had to be convinced and ultimately he was and they made the right decision. You know, the story on Brock Purdy, who obviously was drafted even later, was Brian Greasy. Loved him, loved him. And maybe like Kubiak or Slowik or one other guy really liked him. But you have to have someone as a proponent for you in the building because let's just pick a number. Let's say there are six boxes to check as a quarterback that define your ability. Size, speed, you know, just your, your, your body type is one, your arm strength is two. And I'm not, this is in no order. Accuracy, processing, production, like all these checkbooks. Maybe you're just good at a couple of them and you're missing like, you know, he wasn't that productive. He's kind of small, it doesn't have a great arm. But he's really accurate and he's really smart. You have to have someone fighting because it is easy. And I think this is just a natural, you know, something that humans do. Right. It's so easy to pick the negative side. Well, he can't do this or you can't do that. And I can be like that sometimes in life. Like, you want to do this now? I'm not really feeling that you want to do that. Think how many people that you do business with. Yeah, we shouldn't do that. Yeah, it's, it's. The easiest thing to do is essentially to say no. It always is. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is like, yeah, I see that. Yeah, let's do that. As crazy as that sounds, it's no different scouting, it's no different life. So I think these guys will. Howard's, Riley, Leonard's, Jackson, Darts, wherever they get drafted, they are going to have people internally. It's, it's going to be split, right? There are going to be people like, I don't really See it and there are going to be a couple people and clearly that are going to have some influence that truly believe. Like, I see something here and I think with quarterback, one separator that is impossible to quantify is the kid, like the wiring of the player. Like, just look at some of these guys that are still playing in the NFL. You know, either they're like, Jimmy Garoppolo is just really well liked in the locker room. Even Devonte, who hated him as a player. It's like, yeah, I really like Jimmy. You know, there's something. I watched Joshua Dobbs on the 49ers. Like, yeah, this guy's just. People just like, this guy. People just really, really. Marcus Mariota. Mariota is a great example. I've never met a human being that has spent one second around Mario. It's like, yeah, I really like the guy. Or I mean the opposite. Like, I don't like the guy. He is his approval ratings really, really high. And that stuff matters. When you're talking about guys that are definitely. They might become starters, but they're drafted to compete to be the backup. John. Kirk Cousins is literally so much better than Darnold and he got. And like you said, all they do is throw. Even Alex Smith fell into a 30 touchdown season. I gotta push back on that. I'm not sure Alex ever threw 30 touchdowns, but Kirk Cousins in 2025 is not better than Sam Darnold. Alex Smith Never had a 30 touchdown season. His best season was 26 touchdowns. I only push back on that because I've looked that number up so many times. I watched him. Darnold sucks every big game that he has hidden by multiple games going on. He's horrible. He's terrible. Bright lights. He sucks. I watched him at usc, played Notre Dame. I was in the stands watching the game. They lost 42 to 14. Aller just lost to Notre Dame in the playoff. And you say he's undraftable. Sam Darnold was dramatically better than Drew Aller in college. And Sam Darnold also just had a really good season. Down the stretch of the season. He went on the road in Green Bay, which is clearly a good defense, and on the road in Seattle and made big plays. He did not play well in the last two games. The Lions game, he was completely overwhelmed. The next game, like, I'm sorry. It was on. It was on both of them. And I watched. I'm a sicko, but I watch a lot of coaches press conferences and I watched Kevin O'Connell discuss those last two games. And he was obviously asked a lot of questions about Sam Darnold. You know, Kevin's kind of a smooth cat. You know, he's a good looking dude, man. You're just like, damn. I kind of, I understand why people like the guy, but you know, he's not a huge, take full responsibility kind of did. But even he said like, listen, we should have had more answers in the quick game to get rid of the ball. Everything didn't have to be a deep breaking route when our offensive line was getting smoked and me and the quarterback kind of fell apart. The other thing is, okay, he's not great in big games. We don't even know. My pushback on J.J. mcCarthy is, is he going to be good in the NFL in regular games? Like if you're just playing the Jags or the Titans or the Cardinals or just pick, just pick a team. The Niners, the Packer, like, can he just function regular game? I have no clue. So, yeah, Sam Darnold. Can we win a Super bowl with this guy? If you want to tell me no. What am I going to argue with you? One, you're the Minnesota Vikings. You don't win Super Bowls. And two, this guy just led you to the playoffs. So did Kirk Cousins. Led you into the playoffs. Could do way worse. You could do way worse than Cousins and Darnold. One big difference with Cousins and Darnold is Cousins can't move. Darnold can. Now we can discuss like Darnold, there's a long way to go to be as consistently good over the course of his career as Cousins. But I don't think we can just act like Sam Darnold is now Will Levis because he had two bad games.
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Daily News podcast and lately the news is about a big question. How much can one guy change?
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They want change.
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What will change look like for energy?
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Bobby Bones
Drill baby. Drill schools. Take the Department of Education. Close it. Health care better and less expensive.
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Bobby Bones
I would love to see a conversation on I'm a Rams fan and it is my hope that other fan bases are seeing the genius of Les Sneed and what he's quietly done for this organization. Would you put less up on the Mount Rushmore of GMs? And secondly, what are the Mount Rushmore GMs like him and Howie doing so well and put them above ineffective GMs? That's a good question. You know, him and Howie deal a little differently. You know, I mean he's got and I'm not trying to less sneak clearly is an awesome gm. I mean the first time they got high draft picks, they crush it. He's got Sean McVeigh. So as a GM, you look way better when you have a good coach. Brett Veets, be the first to tell you I'm infinitely better as a GM and going to have a long GM career because I work for Andy Reid than if I had some random coach. So you look better as a GM when you got a good coach. But you know, I can I've never been around less. I just know how he there was just like a relentless energy to always be like finding more information. And I think there's never you're not quick in this gets back to like say no. Like let's keep asking questions about stuff and listen how he's pivoted over the years. I think one thing he's done recently is he actually made it pretty simple. I mean he really did. Let's just draft the best players from the best teams instead of trying to overthink this. And it started when he made the Jalen Rager pick when he got a little cute. It's like just take Justin Jefferson from lsu. The team just won the Natty and what have they done since? Just take elite blue chippers. Jalen Carter, Georgia Nolan Smith, Georgia Nakobe Dean, Georgia Saquon's available. Boom. Penn State number two overall pick, elite talent. Let's take them. Let's get Makai Becton, a former blue chip guy and move them to guard. Obviously you got to get lucky. I mean the Zach Bond, Vic Fangio Thing no one saw coming. I don't have a great answer for you. I really don't. I just think. I don't know if there's like a specific process that separates them. I think Jared Verse and Fisk. Yeah, let's just. Who's one of the best defenses in the country last year? Florida State. Who are their. Two of their best players. I mean, three of their players went from pick like whatever. Verse was 17 or 18. It was him who's awesome. Renardo Green, who the Niners took, who's one of their starting corners now, and Fisk. It's like, yeah, these players are really good sometimes it's like, let's go, let's look at a Cal Poly. No, I went there. You should not. Who's playing at Ohio State? Alabama, Notre Dame, lsu, Georgia, Texas. That's, that's. Don't, don't overthink this. And like I said, I can't speak to the individual separating processes. Beside, they're just. Some people are just better at their jobs. Like I'm just better than you for whatever reason. I have more talent. I have more of an. I don't know, I don't know if it's innate, but a natural skill to figure this stuff out. You know, one thing how he's a lead at is understanding value. And I think some of these scouts that kind of grow up just scout, scout, scout, scout, don't quite understand finances. And when you're the gm, I mean a huge part of your job is obviously managing the salary cap with talent. And then the draft is essentially just an economic exercise. What do I need to pay for this player? Do I need to trade up and get them or can I wait to get them or can I trade back to get them and accumulate more? It's basically the stock market and Howie's really smart that way. One thing Howie is elite at. I can't speak to Les. Is his ability to accumulate information of his relationships with agents, media and other GMs. He's pretty good at that. And it's, you know, the job. You need to spend a lot of time talking to people on the phone and texting. Like if you're, if you tell me a GM is just sitting in his office watching tape all day, that's not going to work. Die hard Cowboy fan from Memphis. Coward is my all time favorite. But I must admit the only time I shake my head at his takes is when he crushes Dak. I remember he predicted he wouldn't do much and we ended up scoring the most points per game in the league. Then after Kellen left, everyone acted like we fell off a cliff. Only for us again to have the top offense in the league with Dak arguably getting cheated out of the mvp, seeing as his stats were far superior to Lamar Jackson's. My point is that y'all are way too low on deck and it's a bit of an insult to put guys like Herbert or Kyler Murray above him. I don't know. I don't know who's putting Kyler Murray above Dak. I would find me that human. My theory on why people lowball Dax greatness is because of a stocky, almost fullback build that some are blinded by and just how beautiful the ball he throws is this Dak Prescott. I get that he had a down year and I also get that he has led us to the promise and he hasn't led us to the promised land. But I truly believe that Dak is a top five quarterback. Okay, I don't really know where we're going with this. I just got to disagree there. Dax a good player. You guys have won a lot of games with them. The reason people are hard on Dak is because he has been terrible in the playoffs. That three year stretch where they went 12 games every year, he threw a combined five interceptions. So statistically and these weren't balls tipped up in the air. Freak. I mean, he was hitting dudes in the Niners in stride. He was not good last year wasn't totally his fault against the packers, but we have to admit he was atrocious in the playoffs. And one thing with with Herbert comparing him. If you just pulled every GM in the league, who you would rather have Dak Prescott or Justin Herbert, I think it would be unanimous. Jerry might be the only guy. But Justin Herbert's also five years younger than Dak now. Part of it too is like you play for the Cowboys, you play for the Yankees, you play for the Lakers. Like, you just get talked about more. If Dak Prescott played for the Jags and was doing the same thing, we would probably talk about him differently. I'm an Eagles fan. I feel like nobody in the media acknowledges how challenging it is for quarterbacks to constantly have new coordinators and expect to make so much significant progress. Since Hurts has entered the league, he's had four different coordinators in five years. It looks like he will be on his fifth with Kellen Moore potentially getting the Cowboys job. The only time Hurts has had two years with a coordinator with Shane Steichen and the Eagles Went to a Super Bowl. What are your thoughts on this? It is difficult and this is an underlying issue with the Eagles is like they have, I was going to look how old. It's amazing how powerful Wikipedia is. They have this 43 year old offensive coach who can't call place. So it's like, so let's say as we sit here, Jan 17, Kellen Moore is the next Cowboy head coach. They have to get a new coordinator because their 43 year old offensive coach cannot call place. Like that's just kind of an issue. Yeah. It's not an ideal situation. And even if you quote, unquote, keep the same scheme, keep the same terminology, you fit into our offense, you're still getting a new voice. It's like if you have a business partner for a year, every day you work together every single day. And then all of a sudden the year ends January 1st and I take Jim away and I insert Bill. And then for two years you and Bill work together and you and Bill do a really good job. He's good at sales, you're good at the accounting and the structure of the business and it just goes, well. And then all of a sudden Bill looks at you and goes, I'm out. And then you get Sam. So yeah, even if you keep some of the same processes in place in your business, there's still just a communication. And let's face it, we all are wired differently. So whatever we do, if you were in my business, with me, in the podcasting world, in the digital space of talking about sports, if you're in finance, if you're in architecture, we all have some just philosophical beliefs on the way we do things after a while, in the right and wrong way to be successful. So it's tough. There's no way around it. I don't know what else to say. But I do think it gets back to the root of the problem. Sean McVeigh can lose a coach. Kyle Shanahan, Matt LaFleur can. Kevin O'Connell can lose offensive coaches. It does not change their offense or their communication with the quarterback, because it's them. I'm not trying to just shit on Sirianni, but he's essentially like Jim and John Harbaugh, except he's 20 years younger. What would be the bigger story? The Chiefs three peat or the Lions win the Super Bowl? It's a good question. I'd argue if the Lions were to beat the Chiefs, that would probably be the biggest story. The Bills winning. I think the biggest story would be the Chiefs losing in The Super Bowl. So if that meant the Eagles or the Lions beating them, I think that would be the biggest story. Now, given that the Eagles went to a Super bowl two years ago, they won a Super bowl in 17, you could argue the biggest story possible would be the Detroit Lions winning a Super bowl and beating this team in the middle of their dynasty. Quick question. What step would you take in making the Jets a team that can compete yearly? What coaches, GMs would you bring in? What trades would you make? Well, I don't know if you've seen. I'm sure you have because you're probably a Jets fan. They have interviewed so many people. You could argue at this point when you see a situation like that, like I give the Crafts credit, it's like they fired Jarrod Mayo because they knew who they were going to hire. It's why I have an issue when people freak out about the Rooney Rule. To me, when you have specific people that you're going to hire, like I have a hard time getting up in arms for doing fake interviews, which the crafts clearly did. They wanted Mike Vrabel, you know, the hall of Fame player that played for them, no different than last year. They wanted Gerard Mayo, you know, their former team captain player. It's like, if that's who you want, I got no issue with you. I don't have a problem if you circumvent red tape and the last two years now doesn't Mike Rabel might not work. I bet he will. But I got no issue in that situation. I also think if you're a Super bowl winner, I should just be able to hire you immediately. I remember when the, when, when Mark Davis hired Jon Gruden, they kind of did the same thing. It's like Mark Davis knew he was going to hire John Gruden six months ago. Who gives a fuck? The jets have absolutely no clue who they're going to hire. And you could argue that represents the organization. I think the organization is just lost at sea and it might not be fixable when Woody Johnson owns the team and he's going to continue to own the team. So I'd argue there's not much you can do. You know, I. And who knows, maybe they end up, if I was them, I would just try to get a guy that already had experience so I could just get the trade back on the tracks. I thought Rex Ryan was going to be the coach. It doesn't look like it's probably going to happen, but Rex Ryan, Pete Carroll, Mike McCarthy, I would do something like that over hiring some random coordinator. Clearly you're not getting Mike Vrabel and obviously you're not getting, you know, you're not getting Ben Johnson. So I would just hire a guy with experience and if we could just have a couple years where we win like eight, nine games, that would feel like a win. What do you think of Kyle McCord? Also, how do you think Syracuse will be next year? I have no clue on Syracuse next year. I watched a couple Syracuse games. He obviously looked really good. And it's weird. And this is the hard part about scouting or even when you do. What I do is last year when Ryan day kicked Kyle McCord out of the program, essentially I just kind of lean like, yeah, he's not that good. Ohio State thinks he can't play and moved on. And they were clearly justified for doing it. And obviously they're having success this year. So it's not like they made the wrong move. But I thought they just shorted a player who just wasn't that good. And you look at his numbers last year, he threw 24 touchdowns and six interceptions and he was 66% completion percentage. So he wasn't that bad. Now, there were some games where you watched him. He definitely left some to be something to be desired. He goes to Syracuse, he throws 34 touchdowns. Now, he did throw 12 picks. I probably only watched a couple of your games. I definitely watched the game against, against unlv. And I remember thinking, damn, he's. He's slinging the pill. I think I watched your bowl game too. Who'd you guys play in the bowl game? You guys in the Holiday Bowl? He throws a nice ball. He's got a, he's got a live arm. Like, he's a strong arm. I could see him being like a third or fourth round pick for sure. I don't see why he couldn't be a backup in the NFL. I just got done with your reaction video to the Rams and Viking game. Although I usually agree with most of your takes, I have to disagree with your take on Kevin O'Connell. I understand that he's 02 in the playoffs, but this team was supposed to only win six and a half games. If anything, this team overachieved. Sometimes you just need to find your franchise guy. Andy Reid may have had some success with McNabb back in the day, but he was 1 in 4 with Alex Smith. Andy Reid didn't win his first Super bowl until his 21st season as a head coach. He didn't even make the playoffs until his Third season. I do agree with you that KOC needs to figure out his running game, but that game was mostly on Sam Darnold. Pretty obvious that Sam Darnold has issue. Has an issue of holding on to the ball. Listen, I think when you react live five minutes after a game, sometimes I think people can take the. Just the headline of what you said away and kind of project that on everything. I don't think Kevin O'Connell is a bad coach. Obviously he is a dynamic young coach with a bright future. I think I've really kind of come to the conclusion he's the better version of what everyone told me. Mike McDaniel is, but he still gets put in a category with the guys who have won a lot of playoff games. And he's played three big games in his life. Even he said this, the game against the Giants, the Lions game, and the Rams game, and he's lost them all. Now you can say, hey, they were only supposed to win six games. True. And then they turned out to be good. Why? Because their quarterback turned out to be a Pro Bowler and obviously their defense is good and they were just a good team. So you're in a game. And again, these aren't my words. These are his. We have to be able to be in these close games, the Lions and the Rams, even if we're losing, to be in the game. Once the game gets away, it's a waste. You're fucked. Why can't we keep these games close? In my take, I put the Lions game on Sam Donald. But in that game, when you're down 10 to 3, even 17 to 3, sustaining a drive and scoring a touchdown to make it 17 to 10, or, hell, a field goal 17 to 6, maybe you force Matt Stafford to throw an interception. I don't know. He's been known to do that. All of a sudden you get a pick six or a fumble six. And damn, it's 17 to 13 and you're back in the game. But when you just are obsessed not just with throwing, but throwing deep balls when your offensive line sucks, that's on the coach. That's all I was saying. I thought he coached a poor game. You can be a Andy Reid's coach. Poor games. Mike Tomlin coaches bad games all the time. Kyle Shanahan was an embarrassment most of this season. It happens like I'm not. I'm not acting like you should fire the guy, but we can't just pick the fall guy and say Kevin O'Connell had nothing to do with it. Kevin O'Connell had a good season, so did Sam Darnold. Then they got in the big moment and they both kind of cratered against a Hall of Fame quarterback. And a Hall of Fame coach worked them. I saw this post asking, what's the worst combination of teams to be a fan of? I'm a Cowboy fan, Longhorn, Texas Ranger fan, in Miami, Heat fan up until last year. The Rangers pretty awful in recent memory for all my teams. Just based on expectation and what actually happened. Curious your thoughts are. I mean, I would say the Miami Heat, you guys went to four straight finals with LeBron James. I don't know how old you are. Won two titles. Haven't you been to the finals a couple times with Jimmy Butler? That's not a bad team to be a fan of. The Cowboys have three straight years of winning 12 games. The Texas Longhorns have been in the final four two years in a row. The Texas Rangers, you guys just hired Bochin, won a World Series. That's not even close. I do think a lot of people throw Minnesota in there. Minnesota would be tough. I don't know. You're doing like a mix and mash. So if you just pick an area and go like Chicago, right? The Bears, the Bulls, the Cubs, like that, that'd be tough. But you can't be like, well, you know, I'm like, I'm a Rams fan. I like Notre Dame, I fuck with the Mavericks. You know, it's like, I like Alabama football. If you do that, it's hard. I mean, I think a lot of people have elements of that. So I guess for you specific, like, you're living pretty well. Okay, we'll end on this. If you got a chance to watch the TGL debut, what are your thoughts? I live in Scottsdale, like playing casually and I'm a pretty average follower of what goes on the course. PGA versus Liv. I thought the debut was well executed. In a traditional sport, it's something new. That said, I wonder about the sustainability each week. Even as a pretty avid follower of Tiger and Rory, I could see the novelty wearing off. Thoughts on where it may fit? A couple people have asked, texted me, buddies of mine, like, what is this? I'm like, it's just a made for TV money grab for Tiger, Rory and espn. They're just trying to get something to put on television on Tuesdays and Mondays in the spring and the summer when there is nothing going on. ESPN is not going to carry baseball for much longer. The NBA, like, people aren't really watching, so it's like, might as well. Try some other stuff. And golf simulation is pretty fun. Even if you don't like golf. If I take you to a simulator, you will enjoy it. Now, when you get famous, people, that is Tiger in the event, yeah, I'll pay attention, but I'm with you. The screen. If I just take you to a simulator, the screen that they have at the TGL, I think is 24 times the size of a normal simulator, which are obviously big. So it's cool watching the simulator, but after they hit a couple shots, it's like, okay. And I am a golf sicko. I consume every single event of the PGA Tour. I consume golf podcasts. I follow the sport very, very closely. And I had it on. And Maria looked at me, she's like, are we really going to watch this every week? This is not something, you know, I'm not going to fight for this on television on Tuesdays, every single week. But I was like, hey, I'm watching two weeks in a row. I'm watching the debut and then I'm watching Tiger play. And it was just an easy watch in the background. I mean, for me, it'd be the equivalent of like a guy that watches baseball, but doesn't really watch baseball. He just has it on the background. That's what I did. Pay attention a little bit. See some social clips. Do I think it's going to become some moment? No, I honestly, I think at the end of the day it'll be closer to, you know, when you see like cornhole championships on television, when you see like pickleball, the explosion of that on television, Even like Volt saying volleyball, you know, on a weekend, if you go to the gym and you're like on the treadmill and you're flipping around channels, like Saturday morning, Saturday at noon in the summer and volleyball's on. I think it's kind of like that just on tv. They created this. It probably is a huge help to their corporate connections to take care of those guys. But I guess a long winded way of saying that it's got a ceiling, it's probably going to peak early and just kind of be there on tv. For someone that, when nothing else is on television, do I think it's going to be some transcendent thing? I do not. And it, it's cool to watch for the first, you know, for me, like 30 minutes for probably a casual person, 5, 10 minutes. And then the novelty wears off really, really fast. To me, the key is for them to fuck around and not take it that seriously. And that Happened a little bit with Tiger, I think an element that would definitely help bust out the booze. Like, if you and me went to this thing, it's essentially like a digital topgolf. We would probably have a cocktail or two. It would be very. It's a fun event. So have the guys have, like, hey, if you want to have a cocktail, have a cocktail. Honestly, it's probably better if it could be on YouTube and they could swear. That feels like it would have a higher ceiling than the version of this. It's a little more corporate. But listen, I appreciate them for trying something different. I just don't know if we're gonna look back in, like, five years and this thing's gonna still be rolling. The actual thing they built definitely will. Corporate events, I think they could charge a ton per hour for people to hit on it during the day when no one's there. You know, they will expand to Scottsdale, probably Vegas, Dallas. They'll have other spots and they'll be able to make a bunch of money. It will work that way. But just in terms of the television event, I don't know how big it'll be over the course of three, four years. I do think the business behind it bars there. Hell, I could go, you know, if there was one in Scottsdale and there have been rumors of them building one here. Hey, not doing anything today. Take. Go there with some buddies, Take your wife or girlfriend, grab a couple drinks, hit some balls into the. Into the screen. It'd be cool. Is it gonna be great for tv? I think we gotta be realistic. Probably not. Adios. Have a great day. See you later.
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