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At John Middlekopf is the Instagram. We're just do about 50 minutes worth of mailbag questions. Fire in those DMs. Get your questions answered on the show. We appreciate everyone that's been watching listening to the content. We've had a lot of stuff out reacting to the Thanksgiving games, Black Friday games, Sunday night, Monday night games. Our people have been grinding behind the scenes. So appreciate everyone listeners. Couldn't do it without you. And yeah, the game plan today again just mailbag only. You guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast. If you listen on Collins feed, subscribe to the YouTube channel. I think we're about 10k away from 100 so just trying to make my parents proud, you know. Other than that, any other news and notes? I. I don't think so. So let's, let's just, let's just dive into the mailbag again at John Middlekop my Instagram Fire in the DMS we will start with Jonah. What's exciting about the Bears and the paths is they feel like they can be good for years to come. They both have great young coaches, a high end coordinator who likely will not be a head coach and a young core. What do you think the difference makers between teams who have a good season or two in teams who can sustain high level of play? Well, it gets down to two things, quarterback play and coaching. And you know I think you're seeing this with the Lions I get a lot of dms, I get a lot of people conversate, have, you know, Ben Johnson is just a fascinating individual. Is anytime the head coach is a guy like a hard Bob brother, you know, John Harbaugh, I guess they are brothers, John and Jim, Dan Campbell, Mike Tomlin, they can be pretty quarterback dependent. Pete Carroll, right. And you know, these guys all have philosophical beliefs, right? Jim Harbaugh running the ball, running between the tackles is something he's always going to do. Pete Carroll, defense is his baby. And even offensively he has specific things that he wants to do. It's why Chip Kelly clearly been leaking things. The pro push back on everyone, shitting on him about that he forced him to run Shane Waldron's offense, which was probably some validity to it, right? And I think some of these older CEO type coaches have big picture beliefs on how they want to run it. But like 60 times a game on offense or defense. Mike McDonald, Matt LaFleur, Kevin O', Connell, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVeigh, Sean Payton, Andy Reed, like they're touching the field with their play call. They are impacting the offensive or defensive place and that matters. So to me, like the thing that you just said, you know, Ben Johnson, his superpower is his play calling, clearly leadership and organization, he's good at that. But he's an elite play caller, so you will never lose that. So even Caleb Williams, like, if he can never figure out this accuracy issue and it's not going to derail the franchise, you know, Mike Vrabel has this offensive coordinator, you know, the defense is Mike's baby, you know, but the offense, when you have a good young quarterback, like if Mike Vrabel had an offensive coordinator like Josh McDaniels 10 years ago and people, like people are going to hire Josh McDaniels, you go, this could be a problem, right? When he had Arthur Smith in Tennessee, it went pretty well. Then he lost him and it wasn't quite the same. So like Joshua Daniels never getting hired again in the NFL. I guess you never know with college. As of recording it, they currently don't have a Penn State coach. And once upon a time, Penn State hired a Patriot coach named Bill o'. Brien. So I think keeping coaching continuity, look at the Chiefs they've had, you know, during the Patrick Mahomes run, Andy Reid, Steve Spagnolo, Patrick Mahomes, really their core group, Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey. So you need a core group of guys forever. It was Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Matt Patricia, Josh McDaniels, Brian Flores, the majority of the 2000 and tens with Edelman, with Gronk, with McCourty, with Hightower. So you kind of have a core, David Andrews, kind of a core group of guys. And that message never graduates out of the program. And so I think continuity at the top matters, right, because owners never really change. But if you're coaching, the play callers don't change, your quarterback doesn't change and your core two or three star players don't change. Like you're kind of cooking with gas, you know, really kind of matters. I mean, the 49ers could have unraveled this season, but they got Kyle. And so when they went to the backup quarterback, like he could make Mac Jones look pretty good. And while they lost some core guys, they still had George KITTLE and Christian McCaffrey, right? So you got to have core high end players that, that really, really matters. My question is regarding Michael Penix, but not just him in general. Why do teams draft players with long injury histories? I can understand a broken bone or other injuries that aren't likely to Repeat, but both ACLs and other ligaments seems like it's a ticking time bomb that can be seen from miles away. I would say this as a GM or a coach, you can't predict things with bodies. You can give educated opinions on experiences. But when your team doctor, that's it. You know, if you're a LA team, UCLA Med, the Niner, Stanford Med, Philadelphia, Penn Med, I mean the team doctor or the, the people interacting with your health and wellness side of the operation are the best in the business, in the cities you live in. So when they tell you, I don't think this is going to be a problem, are you supposed to dispute them? It's why most GMs during the draft process or coaches during the season will go, listen, I'm not a doctor, I'm just kind of going off what they tell me. Because most of these, the coaches, they make their living with a whistle around their neck, right? So you kind of have to go off the information that the doctor is telling you. If they go, he's never going to tear his ACL again or, or this, I mean, he wouldn't say that. But if he goes, he's no like, he's no more likely to tears ACL than the other guy who's never torn his acl. Are you supposed to just dispute him now? I'm sure that happens sometimes and sometimes it's on the flip side. And I think this what drives coaches and GMs nuts is they will have players that their medical team that the lead investigator in, whatever the doctor is that goes through the checks, either during the physical time during free agency or during the draft process, and goes, I can't recommend drafting this guy. I don't think he'll ever make it to a second contract. Or like this. His shoulder or his knee is a ticking time bomb. You hear that a lot. And then all of a sudden you look up and he's made five Pro Bowls and $150 million. And you go, we didn't have him on a draft board. So I think it's a lot of back and forth, but it's hard to. You're just taking educated guesses. And obviously, the more information you have, if a guy's missed as many seasons as him, you could have taken an educated guess, is his body going to make it? So I think him specifically Penix, it's fair to argue, like, should he have been off draft boards? And I'm sure he was. He was not on every draft board. Right. So it's personal preference. It's teams, medical teams. You know, Danny Cannell, his dad used to be the doctor for the Miami Dolphins. And when Saban was the coach, told him that Drew Brees, his shoulder would not last, and he went to the Saints and the rest. And then saving a year later goes to the Alabama Crimson Tide. The rest is history for both guys, you know, So I. What's saving supposed to do? Like, no, I think his shoulder is going to be fine. It's kind of a tough predicament you find yourself in as a football guy with the doctor crew when they're telling you one thing and you're like, I better hope you're right. And then all of a sudden he gets signed by a divisional opponent and then he's kicking your ass. You're like, what the hell? I. There's been a lot of arguments in that world over the years, that's for damn sure. And it's never really going to end because the football people can't go off anything more. And like, are you sure? Are we sure? Hey, John, at the start of the season, do you think Miles Garrett would rather have the sack record or the Browns reach the playoffs? Well, in his career, just thinking off the top of my head, I don't think he's gone to the playoffs many times, right? The one year with Baker in 20, and then the one year a couple years ago with Flacco when they got killed by the Texans. So he hasn't had much postseason success. My guess is what he would say is I'd like to have a good season as my team to be good. Would I just rather have the sack record and my team suck every week? I I I think he would probably go well I I would just choose make the playoffs and I'm pretty confident I get 15 to 20 sacks. Again. I I don't know the guy. Now if he ends up with 30 sacks, let's just, let's just say he ends up with 30 sacks. I I think most people at the beginning of the year would sign up for 30 sacks and I think he'd also say If I have 30 sacks, I bet we're pretty good. Turns out Nope. No. For the Bag When LSU fired Brian Kelly to aggressively target Lane Kiffin, why wouldn't Lane tell LSU when they approached him that he wanted to focus on his contractual agreement with Ole Miss for the time being and resume negotiations in six to eight weeks? What would LSU have done? Snipe summerall it's clear they wanted Lane and I bet he could have got the best of both worlds. Or do you think Lane was nervous of maybe getting upset in the playoffs and hurting his chances of getting big money? Or even the LSU job as a whole? Penn State is waiting until the end of the season to make their hire. Did LSU just want to ruin Ole Miss's season since theirs was pathetic? Love loved the pod. Maybe Lane generally thought Ole Miss would roll over and give him everything he wanted. Honestly, it's believable since Lane can be I do think Lane, looking back on him making the 60, was trying to change the narrative this summer because he had planned to go somewhere else this fall if a big time opportunity opened up. And I think based on last year, no jobs open up, he had a pretty good idea. There were some guys on the hot seat, especially Florida, right? Jimmy Sexton represents Billy Napier. He knew he was in a lot of trouble so there were going to be some job openings. So he was trying to change the narrative. I'm a much better guy. I'm not this scumbag toxic person that you all thought I was years ago. So he started actively doing that. Probably didn't imagine his team was going to be in the playoffs. And honestly he definitely didn't imagine LSU was going to come open whatever it did a month into the season. When did Kelly get fired? In the middle of October. So that that changed the equation. But I would imagine there was a point in time where he thought they will let me coach and then I can leave. And that clear became clear to him that that was not going to be an option. There were probably conversations that, lane, you're kind of lucky. We think you're going because you're not signing our contract. We shouldn't even let you coach the egg ball like you're. You're already set. The moment he sent his family on the quote unquote fact finding mission. Now, listen, Ole Miss is not Alabama, Georgia, lsu, Ohio State, right? So when I say that those programs never would allow it, I think people would push back. Well, Ole Miss should be lucky they're even in this position. And there's probably some truth to that, but that's not how you feel once you're in that position. You know, if you're married and you start having. Getting worried that she's kind of sleeping around, and then you get some evidence that she's definitely sleeping around. Like, you got a couple choices. You either draw a line in the sand and end it, or you kind of tuck your tail between your legs and just try to figure it out. And I think Ole Miss tried to figure it out and they had to look in the mirror and kind of like, we feel awful about ourselves. We're getting played here, we're getting used. And this is not like LSU stealing our coach. They hate us. They're a rival of ours. It's weird. We're business partners with them in the sec, but we don't act like that, right, in terms of stuff like this, because even the NFL doesn't allow anything even close to this. So it's a complicated situation, right, with the timelines, the rules, which there aren't any. You can just steal coaches. I don't think it's as black and white as everyone has taken stances on. There's clearly a lot of gray area. I do believe, though, that Lane was pretty delusional about ever thinking that he could. Because if LSU didn't hire a coach, let's say for the next two weeks, they just haven't hired a coach, it'd be pretty clear if everyone else hired coaches, that Lane's going there and you're going to let him continue to coach. You could even make the argument, the story just broke a little earlier today that they're going to let Charlie Weiss Jr. Who's going to be Lane's offensive coordinator in LSU, continue to coach Ole Miss through the playoffs. I bet if I was having a beer with their ad, he'd be like, listen, we're kind of desperate here because we, we need One of those two guys to call the place. And obviously Lane's not going to be doing that. So is this the ideal situation? Of course not, but we kind of need him. And it happens other places where assistants get to stay. So it's not as crazy. But in a perfect world, we would not do this. But he is. I, you know, I think Lane would call some plays during the season. Again, I've consumed a lot of Lane Kiffin content. I think Charlie Weiss Jr. Was the primary play caller. Lane would chime in like he's a part of it and like, give ideas and even like override occasionally. But like, Charlie Weiss Jr. Is the play caller. I just think Ole Miss really wants to win one playoff game. They have a home playoff game. You know, the rankings are coming out here in an hour where I'm recording this. Either the 19th or the 20th, they're going to have a home playoff game. They want to win that playoff game. If they win that home playoff game, their season is an undeniable all time great success. If they lose that game, it would really, really suck. You lost your coach, you lost the game. Especially if it was ugly. You know, depending on the matchup, I mean, there are some matchups depending on where they ranked, got ranked, that could be pretty hard, right? A Miami, a Notre Dame, I guess Oregon probably would have a home game as well, but it could get a little weird. And I think they're just desperate to try to win that game. You know, you never want to negotiate or make a decision out of desperation. Sometimes we don't have a choice, right? I've been there, You've been there, where it's like, I don't want to be doing this, but I have to say, yes, I have to do this. And it feels like there's a part of Ole Miss doing that with Charlie Weiss where they just couldn't allow Lane. I also think the SEC is, is. It's like the NFL meets Bravo, Real Housewives. That's kind of what it is, and it's why it's so entertaining. You know, their, their motto from Greg Sankey is it just means more. It's true. It does just mean more. But if the NFL allowed this, it would happen as well. It 100% would happen. If you allowed teams to poach coaches. You don't think, like Jeffrey Lurie a couple years ago would have offered Sean McVay, like $30 million a year. You don't think that this would happen in some programs where coaches were stolen left and right, especially coordinators it would happen all the time. It would be an arms race on steroids. The difference is these are big cities, there's more going on. These are little ass towns. It's like you don't think we're going to spot you and Leila driving around in the two nice neighborhoods in the area. Like this is not Chicago. You know, I don't know how big Baton Rouge or Oxford are, but they're not that big. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock bet. The Hard Rock Bet Sportsbook app is the only legal sports book for whenever you're in Florida. It's also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado. Coming soon to more states too. Sign up today and you could win 150 in bonus bets. Just place a five dollar bet and if it hits, you not only get your winnings, but you also get 150 in extra bonus bets. 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