3 & Out - Massive Mailbag Part 1

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – 3 & Out: Massive Mailbag Part 1

Host: John Middlekauff (filling in for Colin Cowherd)
Episode Date: April 6, 2026
Format: Extended mailbag edition with listener questions driving in-depth discussion on NFL and sports topics

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Overview

In this episode, John Middlekauff hosts a special mailbag edition, responding to listener questions on current NFL storylines, contracts, the college landscape, and more. The episode features candid analysis, personal anecdotes—especially around family and fatherhood—and perspective on player movement, contracts, team-building strategies, and league culture. The tone is conversational, insightful, and at times humorous, drawing on John’s experience as an NFL analyst and former scout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Player Movement and Home Team Sentiment

(04:20–06:23)

• Josh Allen to 49ers?
  A listener asks if Josh Allen might join his childhood team, the 49ers, if he doesn't win a Super Bowl with the Bills.
  • John emphasizes that "childhood teams" are overrated in pro sports:

    “Josh Allen is a farmer’s kid from the Central Valley who has become an absolute rock star in Buffalo.” (05:21)

  • He notes that successful players like LeBron and Steph Curry build their legacy beyond their origins.

2. NIL, College Football, and Staying in School

(06:53–10:31)

• Dante Moore Staying at Oregon:
  John discusses how NIL has dramatically changed college football, allowing players to make millions and reconsider entering the draft early.

  “When you’re 20, 21 years old and you’re making $5 million and then $8 million, the guy is living like a king... when you're getting these huge checks and life’s awesome, it’s pretty easy to do.” (08:12, 10:07)

  • Personal, immediate rewards can outweigh the allure of a massive rookie contract.

3. The Bills & Joe Brady's Prospects

(10:34–11:54)

• Can the Bills Get Over the Hump?
  John bets on Josh Allen eventually reaching a Super Bowl, emphasizing historical patterns:

  “All the best quarterbacks win them, so I would bet on Josh winning a Super Bowl” (11:39)

4. Rookie Contracts and NFL Quarterback Money

(15:14–18:16)

• Guaranteed Money:
  The discussion covers why franchise QBs often see every penny of their deals, unlike other positions where only the absolute stars (e.g., AJ Brown, Aaron Donald) earn their whole contract.

  “Franchise quarterbacks... they're not getting cut.” (15:37)

5. Jalen Hurts and Eagles Dysfunction

(18:41–22:17)

• Leadership, Play Calling, and Media Narratives:
  John addresses reports critical of Hurts’ leadership and refusal to go under center, attributing team issues to more than just the QB:

  “When you won, you band aid the issues. What happens when you have a weird season and lead the league in three and outs?” (21:19)

  • He calls for more balanced media coverage and notes the complexity of locker room dynamics.

6. Draft Strategy: The Value of WRs & BPA

(27:36–30:59)

• Why Teams Draft WR2 in Round 1:
  John breaks down why some teams ignore depth and continue to take top WR talent due to clear separation on their draft board, despite already having stars:

  “Mistakes happen when you avoid the top player on your board... just take the highest guy.” (30:35)

  • He walks through the Vikings' decision to select Jordan Addison in 2023 as an example.

7. NFC North QB Rankings

(31:00–32:37)

• Goff, Caleb, Love, Kyler:
  John’s assessment for the upcoming season:
  1. Jared Goff ("he’s established one now")
  2. Caleb Williams ("high end is higher than all these guys")
  3. Jordan Love
  4. Kyler Murray

8. Baker Mayfield & The Art of Letting It Play Out

(32:49–34:01)

• Baker's Contract Year:
  John advocates for letting Baker play out his contract year in Tampa before considering a big extension, noting,

  “To me, it’s an auto: play this season out.” (33:43)

9. Super Bowl Formula & Rookie QBs

(34:20–35:45)

• Rookie QB Contract Myth:
  John challenges the idea that having a QB on a rookie deal is a surefire path to a Super Bowl:

  “There is no formula to winning a Super Bowl.” (34:27)

10. Seahawks' Championship Teams: 2014 vs 2025

(64:40–68:11)

• Comparing Seahawks Eras:
  John puts the edge on the dynasty-era (2014) team over the more recent champion Seahawks, largely due to the 2014 team’s physicality and cultural edge.

  “Their style was putting people in body bags... You can’t really play like that now.” (65:49)

11. Other Notable Mailbag Questions & Topics

• Seahawks’ Ideal Draft Target (12:55–14:54): John says, for a Super Bowl winner, the “world’s kind of their oyster”—draft the top guy on your board, regardless of position.
• Contract Dynamics Beyond QB Position (17:03–17:55): Most star players (not just QBs) see most of their contract, but the majority of the league gets cut if overpaid or performance falls.
• Travel Impact on NFL Players (71:37–74:22): John explains the physical toll of long flights, dehydration, and recovery time as legit concerns for teams, not just logistical gripes.
• Life Changes with Fatherhood (56:17–58:27): Amusing life advice for expecting dads, focusing on the loss of spontaneity and the value of sleep before the baby arrives.
• International Games & Time Difference (58:27–60:42): Listener clarification on lengthy travel logistics for NFL’s Australia game, plus John’s first-hand reactions.
• Anthony Richardson’s Colts Future (60:50–62:40): John predicts a draft trade but is skeptical of Richardson’s starting prospects—"he’s kind of in that Trey Lance world."

12. Tiger Woods, Celebrity Incidents, and Public Perception

(40:17–51:35)

• Discussion on Celebrity Arrests:
  A law enforcement listener prompts an inside take on how high-profile figures are actually processed (not “in general pop”).
  • John empathizes with Tiger Woods’ struggles post-injury:

    "Tiger’s a weird cat, man. But if you think he’s just going cold turkey on the stuff that allows him to do the two things—golf and working out—you’re crazy.” (48:12)

  • On Tiger’s cheapness:

    “Some of these owners... it is a disease. It can’t kill you... but it’s something you never shake.” (49:00)

  • He marvels at the global reach of Tiger and Michael Jordan compared to today’s athletes.
  • Contains one of the most memorable lines recounting bodycam footage:

    “When he walks by, he’s like, ‘Just talking to the President...’ I mean, that’s truly one of the greatest lines in body cam footage.” (43:22)

13. LA Rams' Roster Building & Cap Situation

(37:12–38:33)

• John notes with Stafford possibly coming off the books, the Rams will soon face big decisions on young stars, particularly Puka Nacua’s contract demands.

14. Advice: Scottsdale Restaurants

(74:22–76:30)

• John shares favorite Phoenix-area restaurants, from classic steakhouses (Dominick’s, Mastro’s) to local scene bars for a listener’s work trip.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the new NIL world:
  “It’s dramatically different when you factor in that these guys can get paid now. As a young person, your perspective changes a lot as you age.” (10:07, John Middlekauff)
• On contract guarantees:
  “You have to be a train wreck to get cut, right?” (16:30, John Middlekauff)
• On Jalen Hurts’ play style:
  “If he’s not going to run anymore, he’s going to be an average player. Period, point blank.” (21:44, John Middlekauff)
• On the 2014 Seahawks:
  “Their style was putting people in body bags essentially… You can’t really play like that [now].” (65:49, John Middlekauff)
• On Tiger Woods’ habits:
  “He should have had a guy for decades on staff that his only role was to drive the guy around.” (49:13, John Middlekauff)
• Fatherhood reflections:
  “The ability to just be like ‘hey, you want to go to dinner tonight?’—doesn't exist. ... Ten minutes after [the baby] started screaming.” (56:57, 57:15, John Middlekauff)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Mailbag segment launch / NFL player legacy talk: [04:54–06:23]
• NIL and college football’s new landscape: [06:53–10:31]
• Bills/Joe Brady Super Bowl chances: [10:34–11:54]
• On guaranteed money and QB contracts: [15:14–18:16]
• Eagles, Jalen Hurts, and offensive leadership debate: [18:41–22:17]
• Drafting wide receivers & best player available: [27:36–30:59]
• NFC North QB rankings: [31:00–32:37]
• Baker Mayfield and extension philosophy: [32:49–34:01]
• Rookie contracts & Super Bowl formula: [34:20–35:45]
• Compare Seahawks championship teams: [64:40–68:11]
• Fatherhood advice & daily logistics: [56:17–58:27]
• Tiger Woods and celebrity incident perspectives: [40:17–51:35]
• NFL travel and recovery concerns: [71:37–74:22]
• Phoenix/Scottsdale restaurant advice: [74:22–76:30]

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Final Thoughts

John Middlekauff delivers a spirited, insightful mailbag episode rich with NFL analysis, relatable life talk, and stories from both inside the league and everyday life. The Q&A format provides fresh angles on current headlines—from contracts to player movement to off-field culture—while also diving into timeless themes like legacy, team building, and the changing college sports world.

With memorable moments, honest opinions, and plenty of humor, the episode is essential listening for any NFL or sports fan wanting to take the pulse of the league right now—without having to sift through the mailbag themselves.

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[John Middlekauff]

the volume. What is going on my people?

[Collin Wilson]

How are we doing?

[John Middlekauff]

John Middelkoff three and Out Podcast hopefully everyone had a good Easter weekend. Here's the game plan right now.

[Collin Wilson]

We had some tentative plans.

[John Middlekauff]

We've moved them around.

[Collin Wilson]

I over the weekend recorded a two part mailbag.

[John Middlekauff]

So today will be the first part, tomorrow will be the second part and you guys know the drill at John

[Collin Wilson]

Middlecoff Fire in my DMS on Instagram

[John Middlekauff]

how you get your questions answered right here. We will I'm in Los Angeles all week doing filling in with Colin on the Herd. His show probably heard of it and I just didn't know my schedule. I knew I wasn't gonna be able to do record anything on Easter. So over the next couple days I'll do a Masters preview as well that will be up with some some of my plays, some of my plays that I like because your boy's hot when it comes to betting the little white golf ball. So other than that. Yeah, we have a tentative plan to potentially talk to one of the college head coaches in in Southern California and and his name is not Lincoln Riley. So Bob Chesney, we're working on that. Looks like that might go down so I might be at UCLA one of these days in the afternoon. But let's just before we dive into the mailbag, you guys know the drill.

[Collin Wilson]

Subscribe to the to the podcast if you listen on Collins feed and make sure you check out all of our videos up on Netflix. Appreciate everyone watching that way. And let's just dive right into the bag. Triple header for the bag Peptides Any thought on retro re retied I something Andrew Huberman is calling the next Trillion Dollar Drug. Never heard of it. Tough to say. We're going to need to shorten that. A lot of teas and rides. And that's that was an intense word for a guy that has multiple degrees, which I butchered. Clearly huge Bills fan to a huge Niner guy. If Josh doesn't win one super bowl with the Bills by the end of his current contract, how likely would it be to see Josh go to his childhood team, the 49ers?

[John Middlekauff]

Shanahan plus Josh equals bananas. Assuming Shanahan's still there, I think there were some rumblings at the at the owner's meetings about a contract extension. Your listener should be called the Middleman. I think that's a pretty popular I've gotten a million dms with the middleman. We might just have to stick with that. It's, it's. It's what the people are asking for.

[Collin Wilson]

I think sometimes, one, your childhood team

[John Middlekauff]

is pretty overrated in pro sports, right? I mean, Josh Allen is a farmer's kid from the Central Valley who has become an absolute rock star in Buffalo.

[Collin Wilson]

You know, in pro sports, I think

[John Middlekauff]

it can be a little overrated. I truly do. I mean, LeBron, born and raised in Cleveland, plays for the Cavs, but, like, when I think of them, I think of the Miami Heat or the Los Angeles Lakers now, you know, So I

[Collin Wilson]

just think sometimes Steph Curry is from the East Coast.

[John Middlekauff]

He's going to spend the rest of his life, I would imagine, in the greater Bay Area, like Joe Montana, Steve Young, Barry Bonds have done with their lives.

[Collin Wilson]

So I think as we get older, that stuff means less and less for those of us that, you know, it's one thing we can move around.

[John Middlekauff]

Like, I, I am still more inclined, like, to follow the Niners and watch

[Collin Wilson]

the Niners, but, like, I keep really

[John Middlekauff]

close tabs on the Eagles and the Chiefs and don't try not to miss a snap of any of their games, so.

[Collin Wilson]

And why is that?

[John Middlekauff]

It's like I grew up a Kansas City chief or an Eagle guy.

[Collin Wilson]

Sometimes your connections professionally, it changes us. So I. I hear what you're saying. You know, Tom Brady once asked Kyle

[John Middlekauff]

Shanahan, he stuck with Jimmy Garoppolo.

[Collin Wilson]

So I. Maybe that pulls on his heart, maybe does it at the end of his career, but I would say, like, he's

[John Middlekauff]

a made man in Buffalo and Super bowl or not, he's going to be on the Buffalo Bills for a long time. Okay, Aiden.

[Collin Wilson]

When people were saying Dante Moore would

[John Middlekauff]

go back to Oregon, I thought they were crazy.

[Collin Wilson]

While he would earn 8 million at Oregon, he would earn a guaranteed $48 million. Since he was a shoe in to go number two. That seems the. The teams drafting at the top are always bad. The jets have Breeze and Garrett as well as two good linemen. The Nil era has clearly changed the game. Wondering if you could give some insight into why he did this. I don't know how old you are, Aiden, but I think the perspective as

[John Middlekauff]

you get older, when someone says you could get $48 million, right? For me, if someone's like, hey, if you did this, you would get $48 million. I would be inclined, you know, unless it was like selling my soul, but just a basic business deal in the industry I work in, I would do that right as Long as it didn't entail, you know, moving to a place I didn't want to move because I honestly would say no.

[Collin Wilson]

But.

[John Middlekauff]

Well, unless I go back and forth, depending how far it was.

[Collin Wilson]

My point is, when you're 20, 21 years old and you're making $5 million and then $8 million, the guy is living like a king. He's at Oregon, which football has become.

[John Middlekauff]

I mean, it's not quite Alabama, LSU

[Collin Wilson]

or Georgia, but it's pretty intense and pretty fun and a pretty big deal. So, like, when you're like, well, you could add $48 million, like, I'm making $8 million right now, or we might win the national championship, right? So it was one thing when you

[John Middlekauff]

were brown bagging a kid and giving him a free, you know, BMW.

[Collin Wilson]

It's another thing. Like, this guy's probably made $15 million over the course of the last several years. So when you say that money, he's like, I'm rich right now, right? I'm going to be rich. Then I also think it's probably less about, like, you didn't want to go the jets or the Cardinals, and more about, like, this isn't.

[John Middlekauff]

This is awesome.

[Collin Wilson]

This is incredible, because you're right, more than likely the jets, the Cardinals, the Browns are going to be in the market for his services next year, right? I think it's fair to say. Let's say Dante Moore has a great season and he's the number one overall pick.

[John Middlekauff]

Better than Almost said Eli Archie Arch, Archie's grandpa. Better than. I. I don't even. People keep telling me this quarterback class is incredible. We'll see. I mean, we. We hear that every single year.

[Collin Wilson]

Sometimes it is, sometimes it doesn't live

[John Middlekauff]

up to the hype.

[Collin Wilson]

But bottom line, let's just say he's. He's the clear number one guy when

[John Middlekauff]

all the dust settles in Oregon, goes on to Final four, national championship or whatever, he has an incredible year.

[Collin Wilson]

Let's say he wins the national championship,

[John Middlekauff]

does what Fernando Mendoza just did, first

[Collin Wilson]

national championship in Oregon history, and he's lights out.

[John Middlekauff]

It would be stunning if he doesn't end up on one of those two teams.

[Collin Wilson]

But I think the reason that these

[John Middlekauff]

people are able to convince guys to

[Collin Wilson]

stay is because, like, once you're making

[John Middlekauff]

money and you're having a good time

[Collin Wilson]

and you're probably dating one of the baddest babes or 10 of the baddest

[John Middlekauff]

babes on campus and in the area, and hell, you got money, you can fly people out, meet them On Instagram

[Collin Wilson]

and Dallas or la.

[John Middlekauff]

Put him on a plane, flight, put

[Collin Wilson]

him in first class. It would, it would change the way

[John Middlekauff]

you thought about it. I just think it's dramatically different when you factor in that these guys can get paid now. As a young person, your perspective changes a lot as you age. So maybe he looks back on it and been like, I should have left if this season doesn't go well. But I think in the moment when you're getting these huge checks and life's awesome and you're playing for Dan Lanning, who feels like a lot of fun,

[Collin Wilson]

pretty easy to do.

[John Middlekauff]

Love the show. Mailbag. Question. This is from Steve.

[Collin Wilson]

Do you think the Bills will get

[John Middlekauff]

over the hump with Joe Brady? I would bet on them to win a Super bowl in the next couple years. I just wouldn't because historically, like the great quarterbacks of an era win a Super Bowl. Just think about my life. Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, obviously Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Patrick Mahomes.

[Collin Wilson]

You know, there aren't many guys, if we just look at the last like 25 years, like, who's super bowl less

[John Middlekauff]

that is viewed as like a Hall of Fame guy.

[Collin Wilson]

Drew Brees, super bowl champ.

[John Middlekauff]

Right.

[Collin Wilson]

I mean, it's, it's like the Matt Ryan and Cam Newton to me are

[John Middlekauff]

in like that next tier.

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[John Middlekauff]

They were on individual years, could be great players. Individual games, they could be great players. But like Cam Newton or Matt Ryan, hall of Famer, not for me. But when you think about the hall of Famers of the era, Roethlisberger, you

[Collin Wilson]

know, Eli's on the fence.

[John Middlekauff]

And, and to me, it's like if you don't put any lie in, I. I'm not going to lose sleep. But all the best quarterbacks want them, so I would bet on Josh winning a Super Bowl. I'm pretty high on Joe Brady. I think he's pretty impressive.

[Collin Wilson]

You talk about fatherhood and it's so relatable. As a father of three with littles that had a hard time sleeping, my number one recommendation is the snoo.

[John Middlekauff]

Oh, we got the snoo.

[Collin Wilson]

And it's actually working.

[John Middlekauff]

Well, he's sleeping. You know, part of it is get to that hump. You know, it's like in training camp, you know, if you play high school football or Obviously college football, NFL's now training camp's all that difficult relative to what it was. No double days. But like, you're just like, get us to the week, get us to Week one or if you're in boot camp or you're in any sort of training, just like there's a finish line. I think that finish line for babies tends to be if you do it right and they kind of, you know, kind of fall into some sort of routine, that kind of 9, 10, 11 week mark and he's kind of hit that and he's been sleeping way better. So it's, I, I've definitely got some sanity back, that's for sure. And she's gotten, I mean, let's be real, I, I, I was sleeping way more than her. She's definitely got her sanity back.

[Collin Wilson]

Question for the bag. What is the best case scenario for

[John Middlekauff]

the Seahawks in the draft this year?

[Collin Wilson]

Well, if you look at the last

[John Middlekauff]

couple years, there's been some really good players there for the super bowl winning team.

[Collin Wilson]

Two years ago it was the Chiefs

[John Middlekauff]

took, well, I guess, I guess that was last year too. So the Chiefs didn't win it. But let's just take the two teams in the super bowl, the Chiefs and the Eagles. One ended up with Josh Simmons, who is, I don't know, a top 10 prospect in that draft. He just had questions about his knee, but a big time left, like a potential franchise left tackle and Jihad Campbell. Both guys had some injury question marks, but they were big time talents.

[Collin Wilson]

So I, I think you never quite know who's going to be there.

[John Middlekauff]

I, I, I, I don't think they have any. To force a need. You could go with the running back from Notre Dame, not love, but the backup. You could go wide receiver to get a cheap wide receiver in there with jsn, I mean you can always take offensive or defensive lineman. No one ever complains about that, but I think the world's kind of their oyster. That's the best part about winning a Super bowl is like whoever is the top guy on your board, when you're sitting there, take them. You know, why did the Chiefs and the Eagles take Simmons and Jihad Campbell? Because those guys were clearly the best player on their board when they drafted. And for those of you that don't know the snoo, it's basically a bassinet that is plugged in, that oscillates. So you know, it's, there's a reason rocking chairs for babies work because if he's freaking out, you get on the rocking chair, he'll calm down. You get him in the snoo, it starts going like this and it has the, that ambient, you know, kind of white noise. It's like I'M not doing it right. But you know, and he, it works.

[Collin Wilson]

New dad to a nine month old who's getting huge after being a 34 week premium.

[John Middlekauff]

It's crazy how they get big. You know, my, my, my son was like 7 pounds and now 10 weeks later he's, he's 13. He's kind of fat right now.

[Collin Wilson]

Now in fairness, he can't walk or

[John Middlekauff]

burn any calories eating a lot of milk.

[Collin Wilson]

Why do you say quarterbacks see every penny of their contracts, even the non guarantees? How is this different than let's say

[John Middlekauff]

a wide receiver or a running back?

[Collin Wilson]

Well, obviously there are examples of quote

[John Middlekauff]

unquote franchise quarterbacks that don't see it right? Tua Kyler. But look at the league right now.

[Collin Wilson]

Find me a quarterback that you view

[John Middlekauff]

as good that has signed a contract extension that hasn't seen every, seen every penny. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Joe Burl. They have not only seen every penny of their contract, they will continue to see every penny. They're not getting cut.

[Collin Wilson]

Then you go to that next tier

[John Middlekauff]

Hurdy's going to see every penny for the foreseeable future. Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, I mean the Jalen Hurts is kind of the wild card. He's definitely a little bit of a wild card right now.

[Collin Wilson]

But the majority of guys that you view as top Jordan love going nowhere. These guys that are franchise quarterbacks, good quarterbacks. Starting quarterback Trevor Lawrence, polarizing guy, like

[John Middlekauff]

he ain't going anywhere. So like it's pretty rare.

[Collin Wilson]

That's why when a Kyler or Russell

[John Middlekauff]

Wilson, obviously I was wrong in the sense that it does happen.

[Collin Wilson]

But you have to be a train

[John Middlekauff]

wreck to get cut, right?

[Collin Wilson]

Typically you get traded.

[John Middlekauff]

So when you look at Tua and Kyler and who's Russell and Denver, I

[Collin Wilson]

mean those are examples of like look at Deshaun Watson.

[John Middlekauff]

Now granted his contract's fully guaranteed, so it doesn't matter. I just think wide receivers and running backs are much more likely to get cut on a yearly basis. But even those guys, like if you're really good, Google AJ Brown's career earnings.

[Collin Wilson]

Like he ain't getting cut.

[John Middlekauff]

You know, he's like these guys, most of these guys DJ Moore just got an extension.

[Collin Wilson]

Most of these guys see the majority of the good players, see the money. You know, it, it's. But that, that is 20% of the league. Most of the league is that next 40, 50% who are like starting players making good money. But like, ah, maybe he's a little overpaid. Like guys get cut all the time

[John Middlekauff]

because they're in that kind of middle ground. That's the majority of the league.

[Collin Wilson]

Like the majority of the league is

[John Middlekauff]

not Jared Goff, it's not Amon Ross, St. Brown or Panay Sewell, right?

[Collin Wilson]

The majority of the league is like

[John Middlekauff]

one of their random defensive tackles who plays 50% of the snaps the last four years for one of the best teams in the league, the Detroit Lions, right? It's not Aiden Hutchinson.

[Collin Wilson]

Like that guy's an outlier, right? Aaron, Donald, Trent Williams.

[John Middlekauff]

Like those guys see every penny of their contract and if anything they always get raises. But most guys are like the guard next to them. Aaron Banks who gets a big contract from the packers will get cut if he doesn't step his up this year. It'll just he will last two years for the packers and get cut.

[Collin Wilson]

But if you become a good to

[John Middlekauff]

obviously a high end starter you just don't get cut. If anything when you need that third raise you get traded. Classic Belichick thing. He always traded those guys in their third contract. Obviously if you get injured and your play falls off Huge Eagles fan, but not delusional.

[Collin Wilson]

Jalen isn't a perfect player or teammate leader but it's widely reported over the past year he's aware of his leadership style and has actively worked to fix this. Regarding the article, why is this all on Jalen? Didn't we all watch the play calling under Patolo when Jaylen had real legit play callers? More and Stichen he outplayed Mahomes in both Super Bowls. He can clearly play. It's at least half of this the product of an incompetent offensive scheme. Also, there's nothing weaker than anonymous source

[John Middlekauff]

that easily could have been Patolo.

[Collin Wilson]

Why aren't you and the NFL media looking at it from J. Jaylen's angle instead of crucifying the guy? At least present both sides because what the article said is they will tell him to go under center and he will not go. That is well known in NFL circles. He will not go under center and had to be talked to by different

[John Middlekauff]

people to at least attempt to facilitate that. He will no longer run.

[Collin Wilson]

That is something that he does not want to do. So like those things Kevin got fired like his head rolled. You know Jalen's on scholarship right because of his contract. So like nothing can happen. He's a made man. They can't do anything with him and honestly they don't even want to. He's kind of set for the Next two years.

[John Middlekauff]

The Eagles don't want to eat dead Cap next year if next year's a disaster.

[Collin Wilson]

But when you won't run plays that the coaching staff wants you to run like, and your best attribute beside the deep ball is running, not doing it well, what are you supposed to say? That, that to me, like, those sources

[John Middlekauff]

aren't just Kevin Patulu.

[Collin Wilson]

It's well established.

[John Middlekauff]

And this gets back to my AJ Jalen thing.

[Collin Wilson]

Like, Jalen's just when you, you know, the way I took it.

[John Middlekauff]

And listen, I'm not acting like AJ's perfect by any means, but I think

[Collin Wilson]

he is kind of the lone guy

[John Middlekauff]

willing to, like, I don't give a fuck. So I will say what I think because I know none of you guys are going to do it publicly, obviously, privately, there's been lots of discussions, but I think it has to do a

[Collin Wilson]

lot with football, right? Like, will not run certain plays. And if you won't get under center, that limits what we can do.

[John Middlekauff]

Well, now with this new offense, you got no choice.

[Collin Wilson]

And that to me was the bat signal.

[John Middlekauff]

Like, we're doing this.

[Collin Wilson]

So that stuff that used to happen

[John Middlekauff]

is not going to fly anymore. And you'd be like, well, why didn't

[Collin Wilson]

they keep that under wraps?

[John Middlekauff]

I think they had for a couple years. And you can win with issues.

[Collin Wilson]

What does winning do?

[John Middlekauff]

Band aid the issues.

[Collin Wilson]

What happens when you have a weird

[John Middlekauff]

season and lead the league in three

[Collin Wilson]

and outs and everyone's making fun of you and people are egging the OC's house? Who was the head coach's best friend? What was the article last year? Jalen, and this was after the super bowl, was butting heads with Sirianni and with Kellen Moore.

[John Middlekauff]

They won because they had one of

[Collin Wilson]

the greatest running back seasons of all

[John Middlekauff]

time in an elite defense.

[Collin Wilson]

When he had Styken, he ran.

[John Middlekauff]

If he's not going to run anymore, he's going to be an average player, period, point blank. Unless they lead the league in rushing, which they're going to try to do this year. I don't know what Jayla would say. I mean, he'd probably say, like, I. I don't know. I mean, I think the best people to hear would be from which they never will when they're on the team

[Collin Wilson]

is like, what's Lane Johnson's take? What's Jordan My Lotus take? Saquan's been there for two years. What's his thoughts? What's Ceriani's thoughts again? These people will never talk.

[John Middlekauff]

Right. So about the situation, but that to me would be interesting.

[Collin Wilson]

What do those guys think? Devonte Smith and A We've heard A.J. like Devonte. You got any takes? Because I bet they do. But they're not podcasters. They don't have to give them out. Today's show is brought to you by

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[Collin Wilson]

Love the pod. I watched every episode for the Mailbag. Why do teams draft multiple Receivers in the first round. I understand it's a team only when the Vikings took. It's a team only need when the Vikings took Addison. But when a team has Malik Neighbors or a team like the jets has Garrett Wilson, I cannot understand why they would opt for a wide receiver two in the first when they could take a position that is less likely to

[John Middlekauff]

hit in this in the later rounds.

[Collin Wilson]

Offensive lineman, defensive lineman. Every single year there are starting receivers going on day two. Yet teams seem to prioritize the position in such a way they'll use first round picks on a guy who will play second fiddle on Sundays. Because this gets to this. You know when you say we take

[John Middlekauff]

the best player available, we do not factor in the.

[Collin Wilson]

I do believe that's a little stupid because if your best player available is

[John Middlekauff]

a guard and you already got two guards, it's like, is there that big of a difference of the other defensive lineman or tight end or wide receiver or corner?

[Collin Wilson]

But I think sometimes you get to

[John Middlekauff]

a place where it's like the wide receiver is way better than everyone else on the board and you don't want to force. Well, we need an edge rusher.

[Collin Wilson]

Well, we don't love any of these edge rushers here.

[John Middlekauff]

Now that's all personal preference, but I think that's typically the situation these teams find themselves into because they go, I forget where they took Jordan addison in the 20s, right? 22, 23, 20.

[Collin Wilson]

Like, do we need a wide receiver? No, but we think this guy's a baller.

[John Middlekauff]

So it's like, I'd have to look at who went after Jordan Addison, but how many guys? Let's just do that exercise type. In Jordan Addison, they took him 23. Let's just rattle off some picks after that.

[Collin Wilson]

Deontay Banks, quarterback, Giants.

[John Middlekauff]

I don't. You tell me. Dalton Kincaid, tight end, Utah. I. You take Jordan addison.

[Collin Wilson]

Maisie Smith, DT, MI.

[John Middlekauff]

You take Addison. Jacksonville took Anton Harrison, Oklahoma. How many games this guy started as a rookie started 17 games, 24. So he's been a full time starter for him. The Eagles took Nolan Smith, so it's like, would you rather have Nolan Smith than Jordan addison? Joey Porter Jr.

[Collin Wilson]

But see, at the time, Sam Laporta,

[John Middlekauff]

I mean, I don't know, it's. I think it's easier said than done. Now I'm with you in the top 10. This was Harbaugh's thing.

[Collin Wilson]

It's like, take Malik Neighbors. He's like, no, I'm taking Joel.

[John Middlekauff]

Like, I, I think we all agree with that.

[Collin Wilson]

I think it does get difficult though,

[John Middlekauff]

when you use the Jordan Addison example,

[Collin Wilson]

because once you get to the 20s, there's a chance Jordan Addison was their

[John Middlekauff]

highest player on the board by far.

[Collin Wilson]

When you're getting those situations, I would

[John Middlekauff]

say mistakes happen when you avoid the

[Collin Wilson]

top player on your board and go, well, we'd be better off taking a pass rusher here. Most of these pass rushes pick 20 we got in the second round. But just take the highest guy on the board. I think that's where you get in trouble. Your listeners should be called the Scouts. You're a former scout and your followers now act like content scouts, bringing you mailbag questions and topics for you to break down.

[John Middlekauff]

I like that.

[Collin Wilson]

Also, please rank the NFC north starting quarterbacks through four going into the upcoming season.

[John Middlekauff]

So who do we got? We got Caleb, we got Love, we got Golf and we got Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's last A pretty good question. You know, two years ago I think it would have, you know, golf, clearly

[Collin Wilson]

I'd probably go,

[John Middlekauff]

here's the thing.

[Collin Wilson]

Caleb's.

[John Middlekauff]

Caleb's high end is higher than all these guys.

[Collin Wilson]

But to me he would probably.

[John Middlekauff]

It's weird. Like he made plays against Jordan Love in the biggest moments that Jordan couldn't make. So but if you look at Jordan Loves, like to me, Jared Goff's one, he's been doing it now. I mean, look his last three years

[Collin Wilson]

in Detroit, four years in Detroit, 29, 7, 30, 12, 37, 12 last year, 34, 8.

[John Middlekauff]

And you know, the offensive coordinator was a disaster. Now he can't move like Caleb, but to me he's established one now he could be knocked off.

[Collin Wilson]

I'd probably go,

[John Middlekauff]

Jared Goff. I mean, Jordan Love's been doing a little longer and statistically he's probably better.

[Collin Wilson]

I, I don't know what were Caleb's,

[John Middlekauff]

I mean, touchdown throws these last year. I know he didn't throw that many picks, but he was last year

[Collin Wilson]

27, 7.

[John Middlekauff]

I think you go Jared Goff, Caleb, Jordan Love.

[Collin Wilson]

But to me, Caleb and Jordan like

[John Middlekauff]

Jordan Love's good player too. And to me, Kyler's DIS and 4th pretty good. Those three teams feel pretty good about their quarterbacks coming into the season. I think the Lions are going to bounce back.

[Collin Wilson]

What would you do if you were the Bucks with Baker? Do you extend them or do you let the season play out? And what price do you think he gets? His 27 to 24 with the Bucks in a weak division? I'm not a Bucks fan, but I'm

[John Middlekauff]

curious to Me, this is your automatic. Let it roll like the last year of his contract.

[Collin Wilson]

Weird season.

[John Middlekauff]

Last year he was banged up.

[Collin Wilson]

He signed a very, very team friendly,

[John Middlekauff]

that kind of middle ground of a quarterback. Well, guys don't take pay cuts. So if he was going to sign an extension, he would probably want 40 to 45 million dollars a year. To me, best case scenario, Baker throws like 38 touchdowns and the Bucks win 1112 games. You're Jason Light. You're like okay, no problem.

[Collin Wilson]

But to me this is the we have gotten away. Unless you're the elite of the elite.

[John Middlekauff]

What happened to the play it out?

[Collin Wilson]

It used to happen in sports nonstop, specifically football.

[John Middlekauff]

And it doesn't happen as much anymore. To me it's an auto play this

[Collin Wilson]

season out and went who's the best version of Baker?

[John Middlekauff]

Chip on his shoulder trying to prove somebody you know.

[Collin Wilson]

This year it's like okay, every.

[John Middlekauff]

And I was guilty of this too.

[Collin Wilson]

Put money on him for MVP, right? 50 to 1. Pretty good odds. But he just got banged up and it kind of fell apart even early in the season. What did they start like 4 and 1.

[John Middlekauff]

But they had three of the four

[Collin Wilson]

games were crazy comebacks in the last minute.

[John Middlekauff]

They easily could have been like oh and five.

[Collin Wilson]

I hear so many people say one of the keys to winning a Super bowl is having a quarterback on a

[John Middlekauff]

rookie contract so that you can build around them.

[Collin Wilson]

I think this is part of a quarterback inflation discussion that people have so wrong since the 11 CBA when contracts became predetermined quarterbacks on a rookie contractor. Two and seven in the super bowl with Russell and Patrick being the ones to win it. Russell was elite and had an all star supporting cast and Mahomes is an all time talent with a Hall of Fame career. I think some believe that if you draft a semi capable guy you can put enough pieces around him to win a ring. There is no formula to winning a Super bowl. And drafting a high ceiling player never means he'll reach the ceiling. Especially if you're a franchise like the Jets.

[John Middlekauff]

They just took some shrapnel there. Here's the thing.

[Collin Wilson]

Two you acted like the five losses,

[John Middlekauff]

the two and seven is a bad thing.

[Collin Wilson]

Like the Patriots making the super bowl this year. I know they got their ass kicked

[John Middlekauff]

in it, but that's an incredible accomplishment.

[Collin Wilson]

Like they're really excited for that. Like that that was a big deal.

[John Middlekauff]

That was a really, really big deal.

[Collin Wilson]

So losing in the super bowl with

[John Middlekauff]

a quarterback on a rookie contract is

[Collin Wilson]

if the Bears made the super bowl next year.

[John Middlekauff]

And lost or the Broncos had made

[Collin Wilson]

the super bowl this year and lost. It's fucking awesome. Like that is, that's a win. So I, I don't view a loss

[John Middlekauff]

in the super bowl with a quarterback on a rookie contract as a bad thing. Making the super bowl is really, really difficult to do. So I would push back a little bit on that one. But I agree there's no like if Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson are all dominating and balling, good luck beating them with a rookie quarterback.

[Collin Wilson]

Why was Collins biggest take on the Niners last year about having to give up quote, huge impact players for Purdy's contract, especially Greenlaw and Ufunga. And now Drake comes back to the Niners and there isn't one word about it. Just find it funny. Terry's ACL hyped up, walked onto the field in Super Bowl. Kyle and lynch let Hufanga and Greenlaw go because of money, but injury prone, neither got praise for how good they were before all of it till they let him go. Now Greenlaw's back and no talk on the Warner reuniting to try to finish unfinished business.

[John Middlekauff]

Greenlaw was pretty bad last year. So I, I, I love Dre Greenlaw, but there is a chance his, his body's kind of breaking down.

[Collin Wilson]

You know, Collins, Seattle guy, you know, not that high on the Niners. So I, that that's my role here,

[John Middlekauff]

is to push back on the Niner hate. But the Green law thing, while it is cool and I'm excited, I, I, I got to be real about it, it might not work. A lot of people have you considered middlemen? I think we just got to call them the middleman. You guys are the middlemen. Middle ladies. But middlemen.

[Collin Wilson]

Would love to know how you think the Rams would approach paying these younger players. In 23, the Rams drafted Puka, Byron Young, Steve Avila, Kobe Turner and more. I think the Rams will have to make some serious decisions over the next 12 months. Also, I think good name for your

[John Middlekauff]

listeners would be the Middleman. Well, Puka is the number one. Like are we giving them 110, $120 million guaranteed? And that's why he's in this Malibu rehab. I guess it's not truly like a Betty Ford clinic. It's like a rehab for the, the elite rich people. Like I don't think me and you, if we're just having a drinking problem or just checking in there. But to me that's their number one question mark. But now if you think about it, Stafford, if This is last year. They're going to have some corporate quarterback money open up Verse I know statistically hasn't been great but he's still a very, he's going to be a very, very expensive player. Byron Young's gonna get paid. McDuffie just got a huge contract hookah

[Collin Wilson]

but they do have a lot of

[John Middlekauff]

cheap younger players on both sides of the ball. I don't know, I mean this is, this is where it gets difficult but if, if Stafford comes off the books and you don't have I, I don't know what they're going to do at quarterback.

[Collin Wilson]

I mean that's if Matt Stafford were

[John Middlekauff]

to, I'm trying to bring up his contract. So right now Matt Stafford signed a two year, two year $80 million. So this year he's his cap. It's $48 million. Cap is not small but they did all these void years so I don't exactly know the dead cap. They'll still have a dead cap for Matt Stafford over the next couple years. How much do they have to pay Matt? They have to pay Matt staff of $40 million a year in cash this year. So 2 million bucks. So they would, they would have a big opening when it came to money.

[Collin Wilson]

Any chance Juwan Jennings ends up on the Chiefs? This makes it much less of a need to take a wide receiver in

[John Middlekauff]

the first second round and keep juju

[Collin Wilson]

around for years just for his blocking.

[John Middlekauff]

I could all say the Chargers as I feel like he fits Harbaugh.

[Collin Wilson]

I could see the Chargers. I, I have a hard time. Andy likes speed, right? You got juju like they like explosive

[John Middlekauff]

players down the field. So I, I, I have a hard time seeing that unless he comes really cheap and then he's basically like a version of Kelsey, you know, playing in the slot, using his body over the middle of the field, big on first downs. But that's kind of Kelsey's role. I mean Kelsey does, Kelsey is the hall of Fame version of Juwan Jennings. Big, physical, great over the middle of the field, incredible on third down, great in the red zone. I mean that's, he kind of has that role already. Market cornered on the Chiefs from Nashville area.

[Collin Wilson]

Love the pod. I listen every morning on the way to work. I'm a law enforcement officer in a similar county as far as crime to Jupiter, Florida. I bring this up because of what you said about Tiger woods being in a jail cell. My county that I work in has had multiple athletes. Jay Cutler, Shaq Mason, some country singers, Darius Rucker and others. I get the Same question every time, and it cracks me up. People ask me if they're in general pop, and it makes me laugh. These guys go to jail for literally five minutes. They have the best attorney who, no joke, goes and walks them to the jail cell. Athletes and celebs getting arrested in wealthy counties who don't have a lot of crime is so different than the public thinks. Jeffrey Dmer is not hanging out in a county jail cell, mixing it up with Tiger Woods.

[John Middlekauff]

Yeah, I mean, I. I guess Tiger, because of a dui. Tiger has like a criminal history.

[Collin Wilson]

You know, Tiger's had some incidents, especially

[John Middlekauff]

in the car, but I hear you like you. You one of these guys gets a little trouble. Morgan Wallen throwing the chair off. Darius.

[Collin Wilson]

Darius get a Dewey in Nashville. Is that what happened to Cutler, too? Aren't there some rules? If you get a Dewey and you're

[John Middlekauff]

drunk, do you have to stay in the drunk tank till you sober up? Or you can blow a 00. That's gotta be. Gotta suck when you kind of come to and you sober up and you got the pounding headache and you're blowing.

[Collin Wilson]

But.

[John Middlekauff]

But I'm with you. People always think that one. My question is this, like you said,

[Collin Wilson]

if you were in a rich county

[John Middlekauff]

or in a rich area, right?

[Collin Wilson]

Well, what.

[John Middlekauff]

Typically in those areas, not as much crime.

[Collin Wilson]

What do you think?

[John Middlekauff]

They're like the county jail cell, where the people that patrol that area looks like. Probably a little different than like East Oakland, right? South Central la, The hood in Phoenix. You know, it's like this. It ain't the same. If I turn the corner tonight and got a dui, I'm not even gonna have a cocktail. But the total hypothetical, no drinking, driving here, and I got hauled off to the. Wherever, North Scottsdale, It'd probably be a little different vibe than if I went, you know, 45 minutes that way toward Glendale and Phoenix. So I. I hear what you're saying,

[Collin Wilson]

the Tiger stuff, honestly, for me,

[John Middlekauff]

and again, maybe it's like the little kid in me, I. I loved watching him so much. He. He meant so much to entertainment and. And maybe it's as a father, you know, I'm. I found it really cool, you know, in this latter part of the last, like four or five years, him playing in that father son tournament with Charlie,

[Collin Wilson]

man, I'm just a sucker for that.

[John Middlekauff]

I. I got no joy in any of this. I. I really didn't. People just making fun of them, the whole thing.

[Collin Wilson]

Like, I. I just. I. Not for me. You know, it's not for me. I'm not condoning anything. Not condoning anything. But I usually love, like that.

[John Middlekauff]

This is one of those things that people.

[Collin Wilson]

All my friends million text chains sending

[John Middlekauff]

me from the, the, it was the line, like, when he's like, sir, come over here.

[Collin Wilson]

You can't be on the phone over there.

[John Middlekauff]

And when he walks by, he's like, just talking to the President. I mean, that's truly one of the

[Collin Wilson]

greatest lines in body cam footage. But the stuff where he's like, in the back.

[John Middlekauff]

I, I just not for me, not for me.

[Collin Wilson]

I, it's, it's sad also, though, I, I, I, I don't see why people can't comprehend this. He has had his back fused together. He does not have a normal leg. I mean, there's a decent chance he's got, like, a prosthetic thing going on down there. His other knee was completely destroyed. I think he said when he got the. They used to have a different name for dui. Because when, when you say dui, I think drunk. When I, when I hear pills or weed or under the influence of other stuff, it should be, is that dwi driving with influence. I, I just wish there was a

[John Middlekauff]

different Whatever he was doing.

[Collin Wilson]

Do you understand that Tiger has been playing?

[John Middlekauff]

I, I told some of us the

[Collin Wilson]

other day, it's like golf isn't just his life. It's the only thing he's ever done since two years old, he was on television hitting a golf ball. He literally started playing and dominating. So it's like, yeah, Peyton Manning started

[John Middlekauff]

throwing a football when he was five or six. How good was he at 12? You know, okay, it's one thing to get good.

[Collin Wilson]

In high school, Tiger woods was a prodigy at, like, six. It's his entire life. And then as he became a professional, the other thing that came into his

[John Middlekauff]

life was working out.

[Collin Wilson]

So he truly does, beside his family, two things that, like, make him go working out and playing golf. He could not do any of those,

[John Middlekauff]

which is just any, those two without

[Collin Wilson]

the pills, with all the surgeries, like, if me or you were in that position, we would never play golf or lift weights. Why? Our body wouldn't be able to handle it. But that's like, the only thing he can do, because that's how he's wired. Because without golf, who the fuck is Tiger Woods? And that's why I think when, you

[John Middlekauff]

know, who knows he's going out of

[Collin Wilson]

country, he's clearly very, I don't even

[John Middlekauff]

think insecure is the wrong word, because he's not wrong about the privacy Thing he doesn't trust anybody.

[Collin Wilson]

He thinks anywhere he goes, things will become public.

[John Middlekauff]

And, and again, he's not wrong.

[Collin Wilson]

But if they, like, if you think

[John Middlekauff]

that he is just going to acknowledge

[Collin Wilson]

you can no longer take the op. Opioids that make him feel better and allow him to practice and play golf and attempt to come back and, and

[John Middlekauff]

lift weights, like, again, I, I think

[Collin Wilson]

it's going to be way more challenging

[John Middlekauff]

than like, who can a coup at this thing.

[Collin Wilson]

It's like, yeah, bro, maybe alcohol ain't for you. Like, you cannot have a sip of alcohol. You can become completely sober and dominate your career. Tiger, if, if, if he goes like, all you can have is Advil. It's like, well, your golfing career is done. It's like, well, why doesn't he just retire? Easier said than done. It's all he's ever done. It's is like his defining attribute as a human being being able to play golf. He literally, in that photo, which I, I'm fascinated by, he has golf shoes on.

[John Middlekauff]

Clearly, He's, I mean, he's a member of probably every country club down there.

[Collin Wilson]

Typically, you know, someone that drives back

[John Middlekauff]

and forth from the golf course.

[Collin Wilson]

I either do two things.

[John Middlekauff]

One, if you're at a club, you know, and you have a locker, you just leave your shoes in the locker.

[Collin Wilson]

Or two, I put my shoes in the trunk.

[John Middlekauff]

Like his range. I got Tahoe, Pop the trunk, put

[Collin Wilson]

my clubs back there, put my shoes, grab my sandals, right? Or if it's colder, grab my tennis shoes. I, I've never that I can remember

[John Middlekauff]

driven in golf shoes. He was in his golf shoes and it was pretty clear he was coming home from the golf course. Course. Maybe he said he was going there. I, I forget because again, I couldn't listen to it. But it's like, who drives in their golf shoes? Tiger's money clip was a paper clip. One of those things. The, the, the paper, the thing that like holds paper together. Like, Tiger, what are you doing?

[Collin Wilson]

He also, again, I saw a lot

[John Middlekauff]

of still shots, people. I mean, I, I've gotten a million things forward to me about Tiger Woods. I've been a money clip guy now for probably a decade. And obviously you go on stretches where you don't even have cash on you.

[Collin Wilson]

If I'm going to have cash, I would never have ones on the outside.

[John Middlekauff]

It just wouldn't exist either. Either have 20s on the outside or nothing. I, I would just put the ones or the fives in my pocket, right? If I don't have a 20 on the outside. Now you could have 5, 7 ones, 2 tens, and a 20 on the outside to make it look thick.

[Collin Wilson]

Tiger had ones on the outside.

[John Middlekauff]

It's like, what this guy's. Tiger's a weird cat, man. He's a weird cat.

[Collin Wilson]

But if you think that he's just going cold turkey on the stuff that allows him to do the two things that literally make him go golf and working out.

[John Middlekauff]

Because if.

[Collin Wilson]

If he goes cold turkey, no more of the good stuff. And again, I. I'm not. Get a driver or whatever, but at

[John Middlekauff]

this point, here's the other thing. I. I've thought way too much about this Tiger woods problem is he is notoriously cheap. And I've said this forever about people in the NFL, some of these owners. It is a disease. It. It obviously doesn't affect. It can't kill you. I mean, it could, I guess, if you. If you deny care on stuff, but

[Collin Wilson]

it's something you never shake.

[John Middlekauff]

And you don't go to. You don't go to Malibu with Puka Nakua to fix that.

[Collin Wilson]

So when you're super cheap, you go,

[John Middlekauff]

we don't need to do that.

[Collin Wilson]

He should have had a guy for

[John Middlekauff]

decades on staff that his only role was to drive the guy around.

[Collin Wilson]

And 25 years ago, it could have paid him 80 grand, 70 grand, maybe

[John Middlekauff]

paid his apartment bill.

[Collin Wilson]

Tiger wouldn't even have noticed it. And at this point in time, 20, 25 years later, the guy would have been like your big Dom. He would have been like family. Probably be on the payroll for like million bucks a year. Again, a number Tiger wouldn't even notice. Let's say 500 grand.

[John Middlekauff]

You bought his house in Jupiter.

[Collin Wilson]

Wherever you go, he comes with you. Whenever you want to do something, he's there with you. But it goes back to being cheap. Like, Tiger's got some of these buddies who are clearly on the payroll. They ain't pulling their weight, I'll tell you that much. And it's why early on, before the privacy was even talked about, you know, back in the late 90s, early 2000s,

[John Middlekauff]

should have happened and he wouldn't have that problem.

[Collin Wilson]

You know, you've never heard about getting a Dewey, Michael. You know, you don't see driving a car that often. Michael, think LeBron's driving around. Think a lot of these guys driving around. I like driving as much as the

[John Middlekauff]

next guy, but these are easily avoidable.

[Collin Wilson]

When, again, think about this, paying someone a million dollars, these people are in

[John Middlekauff]

a situation where they would not notice, where it'd be like Me or you giving someone 100 bucks, 20 bucks, maybe you're doing well. A thousand bucks, you don't even notice, but you're. At this point in time, it's too late. He, it's not even possible. He's too famous. He's like, I mean, at this point, he's Elvis, Michael Jackson. I mean, I, I think he's, I personally think he's the most famous athlete in my life after probably Michael. Than him. The difference between him and Michael though is because we're talking worldwide. You know, like Tom Brady ain't famous worldwide. Like these guys, LeBron, Steph. But it's like I, to me, Michael and Tiger were famous before the Internet existed. Before the, you know, Amazon prime was broadcasting Lakers, Thunder. That was a good game.

[Collin Wilson]

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[Collin Wilson]

A huge fan of the show. As a soon to be father, I have especially come to enjoy the dad Diaries and sometimes my wife will listen to. On that note, my wife and I have been making a list of last activities we want to do before a

[John Middlekauff]

baby is born in May.

[Collin Wilson]

For example, going to a theater to see a movie. Is there anything other than sleep you and your wife miss doing you wish you had done a couple more times

[John Middlekauff]

before your son arrived? I was going to say you should just spend a weekend and just call the weekend sleep and just don't even get out of bed. It's a good question.

[Collin Wilson]

Like the ability to just be like, hey, you want to go to dinner tonight?

[John Middlekauff]

Doesn't exist. Not saying. I mean, we went out to drinks the other day and what happened? He got super hungry, you know, when appetizers came out, took a gigantic just

[Collin Wilson]

dump in his pants.

[John Middlekauff]

Ten minutes after that started screaming. So it's I, I would say basic things of life that you take for granted. I see some of these memes on Instagram. They're so true. Through having a baby is then just asking you and your spouse if it's okay to do normal things. Like I look at her like can I go to the gym? Or she looks at me like can you hold him so I can take a shower? So it's, it's just a. And it's a good whirlwind. I mean, it's hard, but it's hard. Like there's no to me. Just basic things like the movie theater. But I would say dinner as well. Like just go out to dinner when

[Collin Wilson]

you're like, oh, you want to go tonight at 6, 7?

[Daniel Cormier]

What?

[John Middlekauff]

You know, it's like you, you can't even have those conversations for the first seven, eight weeks. It's a lot now.

[Collin Wilson]

Some people are different than others.

[John Middlekauff]

I know I have more quote unquote social friends whose life didn't really change. But you know, it's just, it's, it's hard to just. You just don't have as much free time. So I don't. Whatever you guys like doing in your quote unquote free time, obviously every person's different.

[Collin Wilson]

Try to do some of that. Jim from Australia, just want to clear up some of the info you are giving regarding the Australia game in September. In September, Australia is out of daylight savings and the US is in daylight savings. So there is a 17 hour difference between the US coast and Melbourne, Australia. LAX to Melbourne direct is 15 and a half hours. United to SFO Melbourne is also 15

[John Middlekauff]

and a half hours.

[Collin Wilson]

In September when flying from the US to Australia you will lose a day. So if you leave on a Friday night U. S You will arrive Sunday morning in Australia. Going from Australia to the US you gain a day. So leaving Melbourne Friday morning, you arrive

[John Middlekauff]

back on the U.

[Collin Wilson]

S Friday morning.

[John Middlekauff]

So may. What have I been saying? 17 hours. Kyle said 19 hours. Yeah, I don't. That's to get on a flight for 15, 16 hours.

[Collin Wilson]

That's in the air.

[John Middlekauff]

Right. So even if they charter the plane, loading the plane, I mean you're talking about a 16 and a half, 17 hour operation. It, it's when flying from San Francisco

[Collin Wilson]

to LAX is 40 minutes and they're not even. They're in San Jose.

[John Middlekauff]

I've never even made that flight.

[Collin Wilson]

Maybe wheel.

[John Middlekauff]

The wheel, you know, up to touching

[Collin Wilson]

down, maybe it's like 38 minutes.

[John Middlekauff]

In a private jet it'd be really short. But even in a big plane, no more than 45 minutes. So when you tell these guys that

[Collin Wilson]

it's like you're playing the Rams and your travel is going to be long. So they are going to if they

[John Middlekauff]

play on Wednesday or I guess they play Thursday so it's Friday. It is already too confusing for me.

[Collin Wilson]

But they're going to have to go out.

[John Middlekauff]

I bet both teams go out. I don't know Saturday, Saturday or Sunday. Amer, you know, up for us for the Friday game so they would try to be there the next day. Again, I'm already too confused. Even watching Kyle talk, it's confusing.

[Collin Wilson]

The Rams don't love it either, I'm

[John Middlekauff]

sure but they clearly like avoiding that home game and just giving it a weird neutral sight.

[Collin Wilson]

Game Daily Listener what do the Colts do with Anthony Richardson? As a Colts fan who is still a believer in his physical traits and he is still super young, what can happen? I've always kind of given him a pass for the tap out situation because the play tapped out on. He got smashed on a run that hit directly on his leg. He just recovered from an injury from so I assumed it was a health thing. The physical ability potential is undeniable. Is there any way this can work out with the Colts considering the Daniel Jones situation?

[John Middlekauff]

I heard Chris Ballard say that nothing is imminent, that he wants a trade and he understands it. I. I do think my guess is he's traded sometime during the draft, but I don't think he's Going to get a shot to start. You know, I, I think that ship's kind of sailed. You know, to me, he's kind of in that Trey Lance world of like, kind of got a start or he kind of got a shot. It really wasn't that much play. He's way more talented than Trey Lance, physically. Bigger arm, better athlete. But, you know, the one thing Trey Lance had going for him, people just like him. You know, people just really, he works really hard. You know, people was like, this guy

[Collin Wilson]

know what's going on now. Maybe that was a wake up call. Maybe that's changed.

[John Middlekauff]

Obviously had the bad luck with the band hitting him in the face and shattering his orbital bone. My guess is a team, you know, there are rumors of the packers, someone like that takes a shot and tries to work with them as a backup. I think it makes a lot of sense for the Packers.

[Collin Wilson]

But part of it too is like, okay, I trade when, when they traded for Malik Willis. Malik Willis knew he was a backup. And when I trade for Anthony Richardson, like, you're not the starting quarterback. Your starting career is over right now. Doesn't mean it can, it can change in the future, but you're not a starter right now. So if you don't have that in your head, like, you got to change your mindset.

[John Middlekauff]

And that's what I don't know. Huge Bills fan.

[Collin Wilson]

I'm hoping they're aggressive in the early

[John Middlekauff]

rounds of the draft.

[Collin Wilson]

Rumors the Bills might trade up for an edge rusher. How are picks valued? Is something like a trade up with the vikings for their 26 first and second round picks for the Bills? 26, 27 first round pick feasible?

[John Middlekauff]

That was a confusing text.

[Collin Wilson]

So basically, is something like a trade up with the vikings for their first and second for the bills 26 and 27 first round picks feasible to basically get yourself more picks? It is. But I, I, I think if you

[John Middlekauff]

want a guy right, they're drafting in the middle. I, I forget your exact number. You want to move up? Sorry, that was confusing for the listeners. Confusing for me too. I think what they'd be more inclined to do is go from, I'm trying to go to their draft pick here. So The Bills pick 26, the Vikings pick 18. If you wanted to go from 26 to 18, you would probably have to give next year's first round pick.

[Collin Wilson]

But

[John Middlekauff]

like, why would you just stay at 26? Like, who's sitting there? That's gonna, the pressure on that guy would be immense.

[Collin Wilson]

So if I'm the Bills, like Part of having Josh Allen making a lot

[John Middlekauff]

of money and they got some other guys making some coin is you got

[Collin Wilson]

to utilize the draft picks that you do have.

[John Middlekauff]

So this year, let's. Let's pull up how many picks they got. The Buffalo Bills, you don't have a second, so that's. You got a first, a third, a fourth, a fifth, a fifth, a six, a seventh. I mean, one thing you could probably do is trade a next year's two, trade like your fourth this year and next year's two to get a second round pick. I mean, you can manipulate it for sure. I'm a huge Seahawks fan and since

[Collin Wilson]

winning the Super Bowl, I feel like the Seahawks are still hardly talked about and still not getting respect they deserves for being champs considering their dominance all

[John Middlekauff]

season as well as our path through the playoffs.

[Collin Wilson]

That being said, if you were to put the 25 champion Seahawks against the Seahawks that won it all in 24 or 14, how do you think that plays out? Can you break down the matchup a bit? I thought John Schneider said it pretty well.

[John Middlekauff]

I forget maybe on local radio in Seattle. I just saw the clip somewhere in the fall or actually might have been after the. During the playoffs or maybe after the playoffs. He said the big difference is that team felt like they hated everybody that was in their path. And like, it was like Richard Sherman got mad at me still to that day for like passing on him in the draft till the fifth round. It's like, Richard, you're on the team now making a lot of money.

[Collin Wilson]

The point is like, they were a

[John Middlekauff]

violent, edgy, just they played like it. I do think the 14 team was better. Like, I would bet on Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Cam Chancellor.

[Collin Wilson]

But again, they couldn't play.

[John Middlekauff]

Their style was putting people in body bags essentially right in the training room, knocking them out. You can't really play like that. If you could play those rules, that. That team was a problem in these rules. Yeah, I mean, I. To me, the rules matter. You know, I think Sam Darnold and Russell Wilson probably pretty similar. You know, Russell wasn't that good then. He made some big plays, but it's not like he was some consistent player. He got better and became, quote, unquote, his star version a couple years later. Marshon was, I mean, a much better player than Kenneth Walker, Pete Carroll, Mike McDonald, I mean, that's like Pete Carroll in his. In his heyday, it was Dan Quinn as defensive coordinator, Mike McDonald, Kubiak coaching pride, coin flip. I mean, it's Pete's resume's longer. He'd been doing it long. But Mike's a star and Kubiak's a stud. So you'd say that's. I, I feel like the, the peak Seattle and I wonder if John over a beer would say that team was better.

[Collin Wilson]

This team's probably more fun to be around. Like, that team was pissed off at the world, but that was kind of the NFL back then.

[John Middlekauff]

Everyone was kind of pissed off at the world.

[Collin Wilson]

The NFL, it does feel, because of the violence, a little bit less of an edge. I don't want to say country club

[John Middlekauff]

because it's still a violent game, but

[Collin Wilson]

it's definitely closer to the country club feel than it was like prison rules. And right then it was changing a little bit.

[John Middlekauff]

Like, if you go back to Raven Steelers like 2007, I mean, that's 20 years ago now. What you watch a game like that.

[Collin Wilson]

I remember being in the league watching

[John Middlekauff]

Raven Steelers thinking, like, is this safe? I remember going to some Niner Seattle games. You know, with like the Harbaugh, Pete Carroll teams.

[Collin Wilson]

It's a little different now. Like, no one, you might get hurt, but it doesn't feel like, unsafe to play. It was you take the field with Cam Chancellor or try to tackle Marshawn. Like, I, it's not safe.

[John Middlekauff]

So I, I'd give the nod to the, to the 14 team. But you know, the best part about being champions and having a team that like, wins multiple championships is you start

[Collin Wilson]

comparing your championships to your team like previous year's championships. It's like, who's better? Kobe Pow. Or like Kobe Shack or like Magic and Kareem. You know, you start doing all the matchups right, and they're like different generations of players.

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[Collin Wilson]

Question for the bag why do I always hear complaining about travel in the NFL? Are they speaking logistically? Hotels, stuff like that?

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[Collin Wilson]

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[Collin Wilson]

A day or two in advance seems far fetched because you're at a huge advantage.

[John Middlekauff]

If I'm playing on Sunday and your team if I'm in Los Angeles and

[Collin Wilson]

I'm playing the Patriots or the Bucks or vice versa and I gotta fly five hours away. Think about when you fly.

[John Middlekauff]

What's the number one thing that happens if you're doing any sort of physical activity when you land? Dehydration. So dehydration with these guys who are

[Collin Wilson]

finely tuned athletes and a lot of

[John Middlekauff]

them soft tissue issues. Who. And they play a sport that is very physically demanding. So the recovery lost on a plane flight.

[Collin Wilson]

And here's the other thing. You have a football traveling party. Even if you're chartering a jet.

[John Middlekauff]

It's not like you have unlimited first class seats.

[Collin Wilson]

It's like you have unlimited space. It. You're still packing a lot of people

[John Middlekauff]

into, into a tube.

[Collin Wilson]

So I, I think it's more like you never hear the Eagles don't complain

[John Middlekauff]

about playing the Giants.

[Collin Wilson]

Seattle doesn't complain about playing the 49ers. The Raiders and the Chargers don't complain

[John Middlekauff]

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[Collin Wilson]

Where you do complain, it's like, oh,

[John Middlekauff]

short week and I gotta play Monday Night Football and I'm the Raiders against the Falcons.

[Collin Wilson]

Think about yourself getting in a plane flight.

[John Middlekauff]

In travel.

[Collin Wilson]

Yeah, you can hydrate and stuff. It's still it. You're just at a disadvantage. So I don't think it's a complain

[John Middlekauff]

like we can't win or this will derail our game.

[Collin Wilson]

But it's a, it's especially these international games.

[John Middlekauff]

I, I think it has a lot to do with dehydration. I think that's a number one key and also just the time wasted that you could be recovering, relaxing. You're just in this uncomfortable seat. Even if it is a decent seat, obviously you have some first class seats.

[Collin Wilson]

But in the NBA you charter a jet like you don't need that much space for your traveling party.

[John Middlekauff]

So they all get really comfortable seats.

[Collin Wilson]

And even then you're at who wants to travel? Right. Once you're there, traveling school. To me, the, the shittiest part about

[John Middlekauff]

traveling anywhere is always the airport and the plane flight. Now these guys just don't go to an airport. They, I mean they go to an airport, but they go through a gate park and they walk up to the jet. But still it's.

[Collin Wilson]

I guess we'll end, we'll end on this for Today, going to Scottsdale on business. The week after Easter. What are your top three restaurants where you're going on business? I actually gave this one out to

[John Middlekauff]

Howie when he was coming in because it was like, you guys are taking your wives out. He was taking a bunch of GMs and their wives out. I said I would go to El Chorro. It's in Paradise Valley. It, the backdrop of El Choro, it's like an old school restaurant. It's been there for like, I think like 70, 80 years.

[Collin Wilson]

The cliff Kingsbury picture of the mountain

[John Middlekauff]

behind him, that's the mountain that's behind this restaurant. Now if you're going for business, right up the hill on the mountain is

[Collin Wilson]

this hotel, kind of swanky hotel, a

[John Middlekauff]

little bougie called the Sanctuary.

[Collin Wilson]

Food's pretty solid, but the vibes are cool. The bar is cool. My favorite restaurant, I mean, if you're going like steakhouse would be Dominick's. Again, pretty bougie. Pretty like.

[John Middlekauff]

I mean, it's a nice steakhouse if

[Collin Wilson]

you want kind of steakhouse, but also some other options. Mastro's Ocean Club, which is also up

[John Middlekauff]

by Dominic's in that Keeland area. I. I've said this forever. Houston's is not nearly as like bougie and swanky. If you're in Paradise Valley, close to Oldtown, it. I haven't been there in way too long. It's incredible. The mission is one in Old Town. That's. That's pretty sick. Chipotle, maybe Those would be my. My go to Sanctuary is pretty sweet bar though. Depends where you are too. Like if you're in North Scottsdale, you know, they got some bars at some of these golf courses. So like Greyhawk, they have this bar called Isabella's that's just a happening spot. You can see the golf course behind it. You can see the range. It's cool. Or you can go to the other side called Phil's, which is Phil Mickelson's Grill. Just a good vibe. So it's. It just depends which again, it's like you can wear a T shirt and shorts there. Okay, we'll end with that. We'll do part two tomorrow.

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[Daniel Cormier]

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