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What is going on everybody? How are we doing? It was Friday at about lunch. I just had been busy in the morning so I was headed out to the gym and I get a million texts and Instagram posts forwarded to me and tweets forwarded to me on the growing story slash trade request that is Micah Parsons. So I, right around noon on Friday, I did a little reaction video for YouTube and I said, you know what? Let's, let's post this as well on the podcast feed. So this was a reaction I did in relation to Micah Parsons demanding a trade. The the Bravo reality show that is Jerry Jones and the Cowboys. The ego, the pride and everything that has gotten the way now of this negotiation, which has gotten really ugly. You know, now I'll discuss in this as well. Like, this isn't some of these other sports where you demand a trade and you know, you're not only getting traded, you're going to tell where to go. This is the NFL and it's the management has a lot of juice. And I don't expect him necessarily to get traded. But Terry McLaurin, I think the big winners of the day are the last couple days are the Eagles, who I don't know if you've heard, but they're defending super bowl champions and they're in the division with two teams whose best players or, you know, Terry's price, obviously after Jaden Mike I'd say is their best player. Him and CD did, one of them's demanding a trade now. So this is just, this is, this is the NFL and this. But more specifically, this is the Cowboys. So let's dive into some of the details that, that Micah Parsons tweeted out. I don't want to screw this up. Thank you, Dallas. The star pass rusher has officially asked for a trade. Scary. Terry did it yesterday. The Dallas Cowboys star pass rusher, who has been wanting a contract, obviously says, I wanted to be here. I did everything I could to show that I wanted to be a cowboy and wear the star in my helmet. I wanted to play in front of the best fans in sports and make this America, America's team once again, the team my pops and and I grew up cheering for way up in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, I no longer want to be here. I no longer want to be held too close to the door negotiations without my agent present. I'm not going to read the rest because Micah Parsons wrote a book, but Diane Rossini tweeted yesterday that their relationship has been deteriorating. Clearly, I think the root of this issue. I've been saying this for a while. I grew up, my dad was a little bit older when he had me, and by the time I was like 20 years old. Most of his friends, late 60s, early 70s, a lot of farmers, a lot of old school businessmen, very stubborn group, especially the ones who are still having success late at that stage of their life. And I think Jerry, a guy in his 80s who's extremely prideful in these situations. We have seen from CD Lamb to Dak Prescott, these drag on forever. And ultimately he's. He's paid Dak multiple times. He paid CD a boatload. For whatever reason, he will not contact David Mulgetta, who at this point in time is if not the most powerful agent, easily 1B or 1C. Right. For a long time it was Tom Condon, Drew Rosenhaus, Malgeta. And Jerry just doesn't want to deal with him and refuses to call him. And obviously Mulget is not contacting him. So the conversations and the communications, I mean, part of being a gm, I say this all the time when it comes to, you know, obviously any assistant coach who becomes a head coach and any assistant GM or scouting director that becomes the gm. It is so much more than just sitting in a dark room and watching tape of potential free agents, of dudes on practice squads, and obviously dudes in college. You are constantly managing up and dealing with agents. So you're dealing with the owner and dealing with the agents. No matter how much you like or dislike that part of the job, it is a massive part of the job. And now with these guys, you know, some of the star players, non quarterbacks in the NFL are getting NBA level contracts like Micah Parsons would get, I would guess 140 guaranteed and probably a total value worth $200 million. So you're looking at a player that if they do not get injured and he plays at a high level, is going to see every penny. I say this all the time about these quarterbacks. We spend a lot of time, and I'm guilty of this too, hammering on guaranteed money. Like how much guaranteed money Dak got or how much money CD Lamb got. Last time I checked, Dax made every penny of every contract. Non guaranteed and guaranteed. If Ceedee Lam doesn't have a catastrophic injury, he's going to see every penny of that contract. Most of the star players in the NFL are just going cha ching, cha ching, cha ching, all the way to the bank. Non guaranteed and pro and guaranteed. When you start falling off a cliff like Russell Wilson, they throw you to the wolves. Rightfully so. I don't want you on this team. You suck. But most of these players, all throughout the league, you go through every Good team or every star player, they are seeing every penny of that contract. But you are talking an enormous amount of money. The I saw this on, I think Twitter the other day is this thing went viral of Jerry Jones negotiating with Deion Sanders back when he signed him in whatever 90 would have been probably the spring of 95, because the 49ers won the Super bowl with Deion Sanders in 94. They won the Super bowl, like February of 95. So Jerry would have signed him a couple months later or a month later. And he went behind Steven, who was running the cap at the time. I mean, the cap was like 2 years old and just did the deal with Dion and gave deon, I think $13 million signing bonus, slash guaranteed money up front and basically hit his account and then paid him the minimum for the next couple years. And Steven Jones is like, what the hell he did. And Jerry used to be this crazy deal maker doing stuff like that, this kind of maverick, just doing whatever it took. Now he's become, in a weird way, one, anytime you become old and you are as wealthy as Jerry is, it is easy to be stubborn. Most guys in their 80s who have unlimited cash and have a lot of power and a lot of juice aren't super like open minded and willing to do things that back in the day they maybe didn't have to do. And even Deon was quoted on this video that I saw was like, this video happened only because me and Jerry worked out the deal. It was just me and Jerry, you know, And I think Jerry, this old school businessman from the 70s, the 80s and the 90s, these agents didn't play as big of a role. Well, times have changed and these guys are integral parts of these negotiations. And a guy like Micah Parsons is just very valuable, right? And you're looking at just an enormous contract. You're seeing TJ Watt and Max Crosby get third contracts as pass rushers and get 100 plus guaranteed. So a couple years ago, Nick Bosa got 125. You're talking, I mean, potentially might 150. When you factor in inflation, the natural growth of the salary cap, the natural growth of the media. Deals like these are. This is basically a quarterback contract. But Jerry in their front office has to know this. So to get it and make it this weird, it's like it is avoidable. It really is avoidable. Sometimes you're at an impasse over negotiations, right? They want 10 million more than you're willing to pay and you just work through it, right? Money's all relative. So it could be a $5 million contract, or it could be a $200 million contract. And you work through it. And most of these contracts in the NFL eventually work themselves out. Some become a little more contentious than others. But for if I want to keep you and, like, Micah so wants to be there, we can figure this out. But when you get in these situations, clearly it's like there's a lot of ego involved. There's a lot of personality involved. This becomes less about the actual money and the actual play on the field and becomes this circus. And that's what the Dallas Cowboys have become, a circus. So that video of Jerry back in the mid-90s, when he was in his prime as a businessman, when the Cowboys were in their prime as a roster and everything was running. I grew up in Northern California, and the Niners were a fucking dynasty. And they were the one team that could beat them and beat them a lot. And in Jerry, obviously, his ego got fired. Jimmy, like, he had to be a big part of it. And let's face it, past 96, like, they've had some good regular season teams, but they haven't done shit. Haven't been to a conference championship. Think how insane that is. How many teams in the league over the last 10 years haven't been to a conference championship? Think about the natural turn. The Jags were there not that long ago. And I think when you look at this Cowboy situation, it all stems back to Jerry, right? Because they've proven they actually can pick pretty good players. They can build a pretty good team. I mean, a couple of years ago, they had a team that I thought was worthy of competing for Super Bowl. Now, Dak shit the bed in the second round against the 49ers, but their defense was elite. Dan Quinn had the defense, Hummingbird, their offense was pretty damn good. And Dak shit the bed. And they lost the 49ers on the road in a game that was winnable. And other than that, and even the year before when they lost the Niners at home, like, they had a really good team. And now you're looking at a team whose roster is not quite the same, who's very dependent on some young offensive linemen. I still don't know about their running backs, but the best player on their team, one of them CDs, pretty elite, too. You just, you get in these situations and. And you have a first year head coach in Brian Schadenheimer that I think it's easy to shit on the guy. But, like, the reality and the facts are no other team was hiring Brian Schottenheimer to be their quarterback or be their head coach. Nobody, you could argue, no one in the league was hiring him to be their offensive coordinator. And that's who Jerry made the head coach. I mean, sometimes I see Jason Garrett on television and I go, I don't know who's hiring this guy. Some fucking suit at NBC. Like, this guy doesn't resonate with any of us. Like, he's just. He's not very good on television. He's just bad. He obviously wasn't below average head coach. I mean, the guy is. It's crazy that he had a job as long as he did, but he was obviously kind of a made man in the Dallas Cowboy mob because he's awful on tv. He was a guy that any Cowboy fan wanted fired about. You're too into the thing, but somehow everywhere we look, it's always Jason Garrett around. And that is the power of the Cowboys. Like, people always get very angry. It's like, why is everyone talking about the Cowboys? Why is everyone talking about the Cowboys? Because for as crazy as they haven't won in a long time, there are a massive brand that does huge numbers. That's. That's not debatable. It's like, why are the TV shows always talking about it? Well, they got these things called metrics, and they can tell when you're watching and when you're not watching. Like, they kind of know what's going on. They would talk about the Jags if they did the same numbers, but they don't. So they don't talk about them. There's just a numbers game. And I think the Cowboys. And Jerry's very egotistical about that notion of, I got the biggest brand, I got the biggest team, my team generates the most money, but they never fucking win. And he's a big reason why you hire average coaches. You always get in these weird disputes over these players. You never do these contracts, right? Meanwhile, you get the best GM and one of the best run organizations in your division who operates the complete opposite way. They. I mean, Howie and the Eagles have to be today or really the last 24 hours. They got scary Terry, who's demanding a trade and doesn't look like Washington's going to pay him. And you got Micah demanding a trade. And who knows how this is going to play out. Now, let me say this. I've been talking here for a while. The NFL is not the NBA. Just because you demand a trade doesn't mean anyone actually gives a shit. And you actually get traded. We see guys demand trades all the time, and they go nowhere. So I'm not acting like Micah Parsons is going to get traded or Terry McLaurin is going to get traded. If I was a betting man, I would bet neither guy gets traded. That's not the way this league works. This isn't, you know, Kevin Durant or some of these guys are like, trade me. And they're like, oh, where do you want to go? That's not the way this sport works. Which actually becomes more profan that way, because you're not worried. Like, if this was these other sports, baseball or basketball, you'd be like, he's gone. And that's. I do not expect Michael Parsons to be traded, but this is a circus. And you know, Adam Peters, who I've known for a while, like, I, I, I understood why he made these trades in the offseason, but I've said before, I do think trading for Debo, he's making the same money as Terry. And Terry just goes, I just 13 touchdowns last year. One, I'm underpaid, but two, I'm not making the same as this guy when I've been in this organization. So these locker room dynamics are a huge part of being the gm. It's why this offseason, what did Howie Roseman do? Did he have to pay Saquon? I. Of course not. But why did he do it? Because everyone looks around and go, who's the best player on this team? It's not our quarterback. Who's the highest paid player on this team? It's our running back. And we have a team full of stars. A.J. brown, Blaine Johnson, like, I mean, star players. Jalen Carter, who's not eligible to get paid. But, like, we got to take care of this guy because money does kind of demand respect, right? When you're an elite player, how much you make? It's all public. This isn't like, most of our jobs are like, I don't really know how much this guy makes. This isn't public information. And I think you look at this situation, it's just always Jerry, like, ultimately, I think Washington is much more stable now. They will get this figured out in some form or fashion. I think the Cowboys will be like, yeah, we just don't care. You know, it's like, what are you going to do now? Call David Mulgetta? I apologize. Can we figure something out? This is anyone who's been part of negotiations, whether it's negotiating a salary, whether it's negotiations with a loved One, you know, a girlfriend, a wife, about trying to figure something out, whether it's negotiating to buy a house. The moment your ego and your pride and stuff gets involved and you can't take the emotion out of it. So what coward do you say take the emotion out of it? That's how best the best negotiations happen, Especially at the price points in which we're talking. It's like, can you take the negotiate? That's where I think the commanders are like, listen, Terry, we love you, but we're not paying you $38 million a year. There's no fucking chance on God's green earth that's happening. Because that's a, that's a non emotional decision. Like we were. I don't. This is. That's crazy. It's not happening. And he's going, well, I deserve more dk, right? And you're like, well, I mean, do you. I mean, we're maybe willing to give you somewhat in that vicinity. So I just think this cowboy thing is very emotionally driven and it's just become an absolute shit show. It's why. And let's face it, like, even Washington's a little weird with one of their most famous players. I mean, obviously now with Jaden, probably their second most important guy, that is just like, get me out of here. I don't want to be here. He's holding out and he's holding in, and Micah's holding in. These things become hard to overcome. I saw what the 49ers last year was like year after year after year of like, trade request, holdout trade request. It's like, God, it just wears in the locker room. It wears on the coaching staff. It's like, it's just, it's. These are human beings. Weight wears on the fans. It's like, God, this is so exhausting. Is. This is so avoidable. 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Let's use the Steelers as an example. TJ Watt is going to go down as one of the better players in the history of a pretty legendary franchise. It's like, hey guys, I need some more money. And we all know it. It's time we figure something out. And at first this is natural negotiations, but you keep it, you keep it private and eventually something just gets done. It's like, boom, we're off and running. And I just think this is kind of the opposite. Listen, Jimmy Haslam gets shit on, right? Gets shit on constantly and earned a lot of that negativity and the animosity that comes from the fans. He's done some crazy things. Hell, you know where I stand. I. When it comes to the Shador Sanders draft pick, I think Jimmy Haslam had his hands all over that thing. I think that decision was made because of him. But Miles Garrett, who is one of the more talented players of his generation in the history of the franchise, is like, I want to trade, I want to trade. And I was even thinking, hey, this team sucks. Nuke this thing. Trade them for a couple ones, couple twos. You'd have, you'd have four or five teams. The packers, the Lions, I mean the Niners, the Rams. Teams have been lined up like, what do we got to trade? What can we pay them? And Jimmy has like, no one. I don't negotiate this, even though it's, I signed the checks, but deal with my gm, but we're not trading you. And he deals with football and he's like, yeah, we're not trading you. And what do they do? They're like, what do you need? Break you off and just settle everything down immediately. And the Cowboys just never do that. All these other good organizations and I'm not putting, you know, Terry's 29, 30 year old wide receiver, Mike is in the prime of his career. And at the end of the day, like if I wanted to defend Washington big picture, like I can find wide receivers, find them every year in the draft in different rounds. You get, you know, for every Jamar chase that's drafted fifth, there's Justin Jefferson, that's drafted in the 20s, there's A.J. brown, D.K. metcalf, drafted the end of the second or middle of the second round. Right. Keenan Allen, who's had an incredible career, he's a free agent right now, drafted.
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You know, Devonte Adams middle late second round. It's like that is. There's no. Like Miles Garrett's don't Max Crosby is such an outlier to find an elite player in the fifth round or whatever like that. Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa. Like just think of all the top linemen over the past 10 plus years. Khalil Mack, where they are drafted. Micah Parsons. Looking back, it's one of the crazier stories like how did he fall out of the top 10? Well, part of it was 2020, the season he sat out like Jamar Chase. If he had played, does he end up ever sniffing coming to the Cowboys? Probably not. If he had played and that season had been normal. What are we talking about? A guy, top five pick, the first non quarterback off the board? Probably. I mean I think it's. Sometimes it's hard to play that game. With hindsight I think given those circumstances, the way, you know, football was thrown, obviously the world was thrown in a loop. Football was thrown into a loop and he fell to them and they got lucky because of that situation. So now they find themselves in just avoidable problem. I think that's the moral of this story. Avoidable problem. And Jerry never avoids problems. He just, he just does not avoid problems. And he has a coach that the conventional dialogue or thought and the dialogue around him is going to be God, this is. You got a guy that might be over his head to begin with that shouldn't be in this position and now you're saddling him with this. This would be. These type situations are taxing on Andy Reeds, on Mike Tomlins, on I saw with Kyle Shanahan. Let alone a guy that no one has ever thought about him being a head coach for a decade plus more 15 years. He was kind of in the mix in like 080910 and then ever since then it's like this guy has not been discussed. And now this is his problem. The best player on his team, definitely on his defense you got eber Floose who's I guess a good defensive coach, but good luck, buddy. Godspeed to you guys. So just an absolute shit show. And let's face it, they are just, they're the Bravo reality television show of the NFL. They're like a summer house, they're like a southern charm. They do massive numbers, they draw massive interest, but it's just a constant shit show. And the one thing you know when the season starts, like this team ain't winning. They might win double digit gains but bet against them in the playoffs. And as we saw last year, they're an injury two away because they're kind of built like a basketball team. They got three or four guys who are making all the money who have to play at an elite level and if one or two of them get injured, write them off because they are going to suck. And they already got some issues going on. Got some offensive linemen that are banged up, they got some offensive linemen that are just going to start that they're depending on to be like high end guys. And if they hit, if they can find the next Zach Martin, if they can find the next Tyron Smith, if those guys become Pro bowl guys, like, okay, they might have some. What if they don't? You know, what if like sometimes the Tyron Smith and Zach Martins, like those are once in a 20 year span type draft pick, right? You usually don't just like hey, back to back Pro bowl guards, back to back Pro bowl tackles. Not the way it works. Oh, and then on top of it, you have the best team in the league, let alone your conference, let alone your division, just licking their lips to play you licking their lips. You're a little lucky that Washington has this Terry situation because they're obviously better than you too. And here's the other thing with some of these young offensive linemen. The Giants, they got, they're starting Russell Wilson, so if they were a stock, I'd short them. But they do got some defensive linemen and you see Abdul Carter working the randos in practice like that guy is a fucking problem. Like he's a big time player. They got Brian Burns, they got Dexter Lawrence. So if you do have some offensive line issues, they will, they will destroy Dak. I mean he will be a sitting duck. And is this team going to be some great running the football operation? Not quite sure. So just another day in, in Bravo land. I mean Dallas for Jerry and the Cowboys. But thank you, Dallas. What, what a, what a headline to the book Micah Parsons wrote on social media. The volume you're catching Sunrise on the first TNI and those Twilight raids after the 18th. When the Vibes are this good, you don't walk off. You reload. Grab a transfusion flavored 5 hour energy shot inspired by golf's unofficial cocktail and get going for 36. 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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – "3 & Out - Micah Parsons Requests TRADE from Dallas Cowboys"
Episode Information:
[02:44 – 05:15] Colin Cowherd opens the discussion by addressing the escalating situation surrounding Micah Parsons, the star pass rusher for the Dallas Cowboys, who has publicly requested a trade. He touches on the immediate reactions from fans and the social media frenzy that ensued following Parsons' announcement.
[05:16 – 11:45] Colin breaks down Parsons' public statement, highlighting his initial expressions of loyalty to the Cowboys and the subsequent frustrations that led to his trade demand. He delves into the specific grievances Parsons has with the Cowboys' management, particularly focusing on contract negotiations and perceived lack of support.
[11:46 – 19:00] A critical analysis of Jerry Jones' management style and his impact on the Cowboys' recent struggles. Colin scrutinizes Jones' reluctance to engage with high-powered agents like David Mulgetta, which he believes has exacerbated contract negotiations and player dissatisfaction.
[19:01 – 25:35] Colin contrasts NFL contract negotiations with those in the NBA and other sports, emphasizing the unique challenges in the NFL regarding trade demands and contract structures. He argues that while trade requests are more common in leagues like the NBA, the NFL's structure makes such demands less likely to result in actual trades.
[25:36 – 30:00] Recounting a historical anecdote, Colin references Jerry Jones' negotiation tactics with Deion Sanders in the mid-90s to illustrate his long-standing maverick approach. This story serves to highlight how Jones' traditional methods clash with the modern dynamics of player representation and contract negotiations.
[30:01 – 40:00] The discussion shifts to the broader implications of Parsons' trade request on the Cowboys' on-field performance and organizational stability. Colin assesses the team's dependence on key players, the challenges posed by inconsistent coaching, and the potential long-term fallout if high-profile players seek exits.
[40:01 – 50:30] Focusing on the internal team environment, Colin explores how trade requests and contract disputes can erode team chemistry and place additional burdens on the General Manager and coaching staff. He underscores the importance of balancing player satisfaction with team cohesion and financial constraints.
[50:31 – 58:00] Colin broadens the conversation to consider how the Cowboys' situation reflects larger trends in the NFL, such as increased player empowerment and the evolving nature of contract negotiations. He speculates on how other teams might adapt their strategies in response to similar challenges.
[58:01 – End] Wrapping up, Colin emphasizes the need for the Cowboys' management to reassess their approach to negotiations and player relations to prevent further destabilization. He expresses skepticism about the likelihood of Parsons being traded but acknowledges the potential for ongoing turmoil within the organization.
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Conclusion: In this episode, Colin Cowherd provides a comprehensive analysis of Micah Parsons' trade request, using it as a case study to explore broader issues within the Dallas Cowboys organization and the NFL. He critiques the management's handling of negotiations, the influence of egos, and the potential repercussions for team performance and stability. The discussion underscores the complex interplay between player satisfaction, financial strategies, and organizational culture in professional sports.