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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - NFL & CFB Best Bets: Ravens-Chiefs, Packers-Cowboys, Eagles-Bucs, Alabama-Georgia
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What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully everyone's doing great. Obviously we had no reaction to Seattle beating Arizona. I don't know. I I'm recording this on Wednesday. I just recorded with Stucky. So we basically went over a huge slate of games on Saturday. I mean Bama, Georgia, Penn State, Oregon, tcu, asu. We talked a bunch of gambling for the the college games and obviously a pretty good slate. On Sunday we have our first international game. So football starts bright and early, so buckle up. I'm probably at the Ryder cup if you're listening to this, maybe having a few I saw the beautiful beer prices for the ryder cups like $20 Michelob Ultras. I'm like, what kind of scam is this? These prices in New York are outrageous. But yeah, so it'll just be me and Stucky today. That'll be the game plan. You guys know the drill. Subscribe. If you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to our Spotify, Apple YouTube page. All of our content is up there as well. And. But before we dive into Stucky, you know, I got to tell you about my friends, my partners in the official ticketing app of this podcast, Game Time. Best in the business. Been using them forever. Literally using them at the Ryder Cup. So if you want to go to an event, a concert, a football game, a college game, a pro game, you name it, Baseball playoffs is here. So the Yankees are partying, the Seattle Mariners are partying. You live in one of these places, you want to go to a playoff game. I will say this. I don't even think I've watched nine innings of baseball this year. But in my heyday when I was doing local radio, I've been to a lot. I've been to the World Series, I've been to the nlcs, been to AL Wild card games. It's a. It's an elite atmosphere. So anyone listening to this knows if your squad has made the playoffs before. If you've been to playoff baseball games, they're fantastic. I can't recommend it enough. So take the guesswork out of buying tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account and use the code JOHN for $20.
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49Ers injuries, insane. But yeah, Ravens look rough. Like I mentioned this last week, they need to get healthy. I mean, like Matabuke, they need him. And yeah, Van Noy, they need him. They're not able to get any pressure right now. Before even last game, they allowed 5.8 yards per rush. Before this game, when Matabuki was off the field, they were allowing 5.8 yards per rush with him 3.8. The rookies, the depth pieces on the defensive line are not playing well but they're, they're playing like three rookies like Starks, Mike Green the defensive end, Buchanan the linebacker. Like they're, they're just not playing really well. And then offensively the guards are a problem but they need likely back. They need likely Ricard. Like that's how the Ravens offense hums and their offensive really hasn't been the problem but like it didn't look as smooth as usually does last week but that's how they create mismatches and with that so getting likely back to those two that like just the defense isn't the same right now. The offense isn't the same right now. We'll see what the injury report looks like later in the week. And if the Chiefs get worthy back because they're clearly missing him. I mean they averaged 4 yards per play against the Giants and Mahomes did not look, did not look great. He had like four or five turnover worthy plays. He threw it backwards a couple times. Like a couple of them could have been Giants touchdowns.
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Was a pretty incredible play for him to get that fumble.
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Yes, but he was the one who caused it. Collinsworth going on and on about how great. Well how about not don't throw it backwards where there's a chance the other team returns for a touchdown. But yeah, that's a huge game. I don't think I could play it either way the two and a half without more injury certainty. But whatever team loses that game. Look, the bills are three now of an easy schedule. The Chargers are 3, 0 have a pretty easy schedule. The Ravens already lost to the Bills. You're probably not getting the 1 seed in the AFC.
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Oh well you're not.
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No, no chance injuries and chaos and win like 10, 11 in a row. Which yeah it's, it's. That would become a pipe dream at that point. So two desperate teams in Kansas City. That one should be good but I don't have anything there.
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I, I think the problem would be, you know, the Chiefs have a bigger problem that you know the Chargers would be so far out in front and you know Harbaugh's proven he win 13 games. I think the problem for the Ravens would, I think we feel pretty confident they'll settle the ship and win the division but all of a sudden you're the three seed held the Colts, you're the four seed. You start having to go on the road. We saw last year, you know, I mean they lost the Chiefs a Couple years in the AFC Championship game. But there's nothing like having home playoff games. You start going on the road in that second round, I mean, that's a. That's a mother of a matchup against either Josh Allen or Jim Harbaugh. It's like you're going to be a dog in that situation. That doesn't mean you can't win them. We've seen, you know, Kyle Shanahan and good teams go on the road. And when McVeigh could have won a road game, the Ravens would be capable of healthy, but it's very challenging.
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Yeah, yeah.
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The defenders missing those two guys, I mean, it was. It was. The guys they replaced them with might have been in Ravens jerseys. They did not look like Ravens players.
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Yes. Yeah, they need some other guys to step up even when they get those two back healthy. But they're obviously uber important as two Pro Bowlers. And yeah, the Chiefs offense still isn't the same. I mean, maybe we'll be when Worthy and Rice come back, but the offensive line still isn't great. The left side of the offensive line still hasn't been solved. Right tackle Taylor still got lots of penalties. He can still be beat. So, yeah, the Chiefs offense, I mean, Mahomes has thrown it downfield. More like his A dot is back up over nine. It was like 6.9 and seven the last two years. But his yards per attempt, 6.3. Completion percentage, 59%. I mean, those are career lows. Last year he was at 67%. So, yeah, that. That offense still has issues. So we'll. We'll see. Whoever lose this game, it's going to be a lot more questions asked.
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Okay. Before we dive into some NFL, I mean, this is a pretty incredible college slate. Oh, yeah. You know, Bama, Georgia, lsu, Ole Miss, tcu, asu, to me, is a little bit of a sleeper. Like, really good game. On the. On the docket. Penn State, Oregon is fantastic. I mean, I think. I don't know where you stood on this, but I saw a lot of.
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People like this could be a little.
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Bit of a down transition year for Oregon. I mean, the Cal quarterback transferred, I think, because he realized, like, I'm not starting over more. More's been awesome. And obviously they recruit so well. Washington, Ohio State. I mean, Washington. I. In this day and age, you have so much player turnover. But I mean, they were in the national championship a couple years ago and Jed, you know, had Arizona as one of the better programs in the country. I mean, given what. I mean, Arizona was good I mean that's pretty crazy what he accomplished. So he's clearly a good coach who's worked for Harbaugh and Belichick and McVeigh. I guess. Let's just start with the main event. I would consider Bama. Georgia again. It's hard to. This isn't the NFL so it's like last year they beat the shit out of them. I know they came back, but they were what up 28 nothing or whatever. I mean their quarterback is different. He played a huge role that game by. By Milroe. If you just watch the first half, you'd be like, this is the best player in the country and going to be the number one overall pick. And obviously, you know, he's not that. But I don't know. I mean, at Georgia, between the hedges. Kalyn Dubois, like I watched a little.
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Bit of them over the last couple weeks.
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They've definitely settled the ship.
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Oh yeah.
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And kind of got it back. And they clearly have, you know, everyone hammered their offensive lines good. They have good skill guys and obviously their secondary is talented. What do you make of Georgia? I mean you're getting three points at Bama. This game after the Florida State game would have felt like Bama would be getting a touchdown. So it's definitely come back to earth a little bit.
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Kind of a stay away for me. I just.
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Because I don't quite trust Bama after.
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That Florida State thing. But that might just be an outlier game for him.
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Yeah, it's. It's time. Both defenses I think are definitely a step. Have taken a step back from like what we're used to with Alabama and Georgia. Like they don't have just dom as many dominant game records up front and you saw that with Georgia against Tennessee and their secondary isn't playing that well like Tennessee, Georgia. Kirby has shut down Tennessee every time they ever played and like never. They never cleared 17 points until this year. And Georgia arguably got lucky to win that game. They got that fourth down big time, the two point conversion. So they easily could have lost that game. But that's the only data point we have. The other games they, they don't show, they didn't show anything. The offense obviously had a lot more life than they showed. But Kirby never shows anything in those games. He's 0 and 15 against the spread as a favorite of 38 or more in his career. So we just have that one game where their defense didn't look great. Their offense came to light whereas Alabama. Yes, I agree. Like Todd Simpson's been playing really well, the past two weeks, the defense, the efforts there, like that game against Florida State, like, it was bad.
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What, what's that Georgia stat again? When he's a favorite.
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Oh, and 15 against the spread as a favorite of 38 or more points. Like, they just show nothing. They like, they go super vanilla play.
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Is that the defensive coach in them? Well, like, you know, because I feel like offensive coaches would keep the pedal of the metal and score 60, 70 points.
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He'll run like. There was a game against Kent State where Kent State was like dropping eight, just playing rush three, drop eight. And he was running like just this. He ran this like mesh play, which you wouldn't do against drop A. He ran this mesh play like 11 times in a row with. Who's Stetson Bennett? Like, they ran it like 10 times in a row. He just wanted to like, work on this.
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Like, can't you see him in the headset to the OC again? Again?
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Yeah. So, yeah, they don't really show anything which clearly showed. So their offense looked a lot better now. Ty Simpson's looked great. Like clean. His ball. His ball who looked spectacular. He's been accurate because he looked really bad against Florida State, but it was against UL Monroe and then Wisconsin, you know, with their backup quarterback down, a bunch of starters and a bad Wisconsin team that just terrible. Lost, got blown out at home by Maryland. So do we.
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Mike McCarthy coming in from the top rope.
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Yup. Seriously, can we really trust Alabama yet? I don't know. This is a game, I think it's like, because the market's been going bouncing back and forth. This is a game. If it's like you get a two and a half on Georgia, you take it. If you get a three and a half on Alabama, you take it. Georgia hasn't lost a home game in regulation since 2016, which is insane. They lost one game in overtime in 2019. They haven't lost at home since then. Interesting enough, they haven't beat Alabama at home since 2003. But they haven't played in Athens since Kirby got there in 2016. So this will be the first meeting there. So, yeah, I, I now I will say, like the quarterbacks that give Alabama and quarterbacks and offenses to give Alabama and Georgia issues are the ones like Florida State, Vanderbilt with the running quarterbacks. You saw that with Milroe last year. You saw that with Alabama against Florida State, against Vanderbilt last year. Javier, Oklahoma, they ran that option offense last year and beat Alabama. So with Jackson, Arnold. So like. But that's not really the Offense is here, so the defenses might have, would look a little bit better, but I don't have a strong feel either way. But if you can find a two and a half on Georgia, I'd take it. And if you wanted to take the three and a half on Alabama, I wouldn't blame you. But just mainly looking forward to watching that one. Learning, learning more about both teams because it's just like two data points. Neither looked great for various reasons. The real data points. So we'll, we'll, we'll definitely get a better feel for who those teams are. After Saturday between.
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I, I remember two years ago being, I was shopping with my wife because we just moved into this house and we needed some, some like furniture, some like grown up furniture. And I was at the furniture store and they had a television and I just sat there and watched. It was at night and it was LSU versus Ole Miss two years ago at Ole Miss. And it was an incredible game and I can't remember the final score, but 148 or something. Yeah, it was like, she's like, we got to go. I'm like, I'm not moving this. This is incredible tv. And that was Jaden Daniels, Brian Thomas and Malik Neighbors. And the irony is a couple years later, like LSU's defense was terrible. Now their defense is. Looks pretty good, but offensively, I think we got some question marks and Ole Miss, I'll be honest, I haven't watched that much of them just because, I mean, you talk about playing nobody. So it's, you know, the data points for them coming into this game now based on the previous couple of years, you know, they have talent, you know, they have good coaching. Lane was bitching and moaning about like, if this game was at lsu, no, this thing would be at night. But here they put it during the day, which, you know, a couple of years ago that was a big advantage for them playing at night. You know, defensively so far, just following their scores doesn't feel like Ole Miss is exactly a juggernaut. So, you know, I want to take LSU here, but I don't know, I mean, I don't really trust like if their offense stalls out and you get into a point where we know Lane can score some points, makes me a little nervous.
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Yeah, look, I, I have LSU to win the sec. I even took, I have some LSU to win the national title. Feeling really good about that through three weeks. But then you look back and you say, okay, a win at Clemson means nothing. They're horrendous. They just Got they. They looked worse against Syracuse in a save it season spot at home. They also lost the Georgia Tech and then you beat Florida, but you needed five picks and you still only won by 10. And Florida does, I mean they don't look great.
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So they're good on. They're good on D. Yeah, the D.
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Is really good playing hard, but the offense does not look great. The Clemson offense does not look great. So how much of that plays into the LSU defense? I do believe the LSU defense is significantly improved. They're especially on the back end. But they have the number one transfer portal class. So they brought in some guys. They're definitely much more talented. But it is the offense that's the question. The offensive line, they lost four guys to the NFL and they still don't have a run game. The pass protection isn't as good. So can you trust them here now? The Ole Miss defense has taken an enormous step back. So like, I mean last year they were one of the best defenses in the country and they lost a ton of talent. Guys who are starting in the NFL right now from that team and they just haven't replaced it.
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The offensive line coordinator is the old Bama guy, right?
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Yep. Peak holding dip. The offense is. Offensive line is real. It's not good either. So that could be a problem. So I really just don't know. I. My first, you know 55 or 55 is a key number in college. I actually would look at the under here because I do think the LSU offense has real problems. I and that the Ole Miss offense has been electric but the offensive line is not good. They haven't played any really good defenses. And this kid Chambliss, D2 transfer who has taken over for Austin Simmons, he went, he went to Ferris State. I mean what a fine by a big time cliff. And he won the national title. And I mean Ferris State's a powerhouse in D2, but he's been electric. But he hasn't seen a defense like this. Like the Arkansas defense is really, really, really bad. So yeah, my, my first inclination, even though we just talked about that 5148 game is to look under because I just don't. I wanted to bet LC2. I just don't have enough confidence right at this moment based on what all the other teams that they have beat have done. So yeah, it's under or nothing. Should be a fun game though. And. And the best, the best storyline this is. You just can't make this up. Is Lane Kiffin's daughter Landry who. Who's in college, just posted on her Instagram like a. A picture of her with, I guess her new boyfriend, Whit Weeks, who's the star linebacker for lsu. So that adds another layer to this. I'm sure Lane might have. I don't have a daughter, but I'm sure he spent a couple extra hours trying to draw up some plays to make Weeks look dumb out there, try to spin them around a couple times. So that's a just a fun side story to this.
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I feel like a lot of people in the SEC date people at other SEC schools, like Brock Bowers. Now, granted, it was high school sweetheart, she was at Tennessee. When he's at Georgia, where I come from, that's impossible. If you go to other schools, like, it's, it's a wrap.
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Yeah.
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Whether you're the star athlete or whether you're just Joe Schmo business student. Yet these people, it feels like, just have normal relationships. You know, the south better than me.
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The location, how do they get back and forth?
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Like, I, I get. You can drive most places, but still it seems. It seems like a different world down there than what I'm used to where people went to college and like, you just kind of eventually break. It's impossible to date someone you know in a different town, let alone different schools in different states. But it happens a lot in the sec.
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I think part of that is like, there's, I guess it's like kind of cool that you can go visit another college. And then there's maybe part of it's just like, I, I don't want to be bothered by any. If you're a girl, I don't be bothered by any guys at my school. I hate everyone here. And then you end up paying someone else. I don't know. It is. It happens more often than you think, though.
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I was just looking at, you know, Penn State's played me, you and the School of the blind or Oregon, in theory had some people on their schedule, but it turned out RIP Mike Gundy in Oklahoma State. I had a buddy in the NFL that said he watched that tape a couple weeks ago and he was like, it's one of the worst things I've ever seen. I can't believe what I'm watching. You know, I've been scouting for a long time. Oklahoma State's had a lot of NFL guys and they look like a. Like a high school team for.
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They got blown out at home by Tulsa.
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Yeah. And even Oregon State. I mean, nowadays with the nil, they should just become a. You know, playing Montana and Montana State and one double A, which I think feels inevitable, which is sad because forever they tried and they got fucked by the conference realignment. So it's like. It's not like Oregon.
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In theory, they were playing some people.
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But it turns out they did not. So it's hard. Now, we know both these teams are good, especially Penn State. Coming into the season game at Penn State, I think there is tangible pressure on this guy to win one of these games. Like, if we're going to take you seriously, like last year, I had. I had pretty sizable bet on them against Notre Dame, I felt pretty good. Obviously freakish, you know, pass across his body. But at the same time, like, in what world can I feel confident betting on this team in big games until they win a big game? So to me, I'm not touching them until they prove it. And then I Might back them because is it fair to say, like do you believe they have, especially in this landscape, could. Do they have the talent to win the national championship? The coaching, the players and the whole thing?
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Yeah, I mean there's, this year it is. There's no clear cut.
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That's my point.
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Favorite. There's like eight to 10 teams that literally like normally there's like, all right, it's pretty much going to be one of these three to four, sometimes one to two that are a cut above this year. Like especially with some of these young quarterbacks. You could have some teams even rise up some more. But there's like eight to 10 teams that are in that discussion this year. So yeah, they certainly could win it all now. So I did play Penn State.
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There's more pressure on them in this game. Right, than, than Oregon and landing in this spot.
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Yeah, there's especially.
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He beat him in the championship game what nine months ago.
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Yeah. Now I don't think Oregon is as good. They, they're obviously super talented but they went from a, you know, six year senior quarterback and countless NFL guys. They also lost one of their best receivers before the season started. And like you, Oregon has looked so much better than Penn State. Just on the eye test. Neither has played anybody. But from what I've heard is that Penn State has showed nothing. Which is smart because now can you just turn it on? We'll take them some time but they've just gone super vanilla. Basically their season is a two game season and they just need to pretty much win one and then they're in the College Football Playoff. But they have Ohio State and they have Oregon and you have three cakewalks and then a bye week and then Oregon. So there is no reason to show anything. That's like the smart way to approach it and that's a huge advantage. I mean Oregon went across country, played Northwestern, back played their rival and then back again. Meanwhile, Penn State. You say what you want about James Franklin, he hasn't won these big games. A lot of it, A lot of the reason for that is because he get, he clams up in these big moments. And that's one of the things I'm afraid, afraid about because I did play Penn State minus three. But landing it is really aggressive. And I mean you see this with.
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Yeah, he's got Dan Campbell to him.
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Dan Campbell like he's gonna go for it on fourth downs and James Franklin gets too conservative too often. So that, that does scare me a bit. But you have throw out what you want about James Franklin, you have two of the best coordinators in college football who have a buy. So they have two weeks prepare, but essentially they've had two months. All summer they've been preparing for this game. Unleash your wrinkles. You know they're probably going to run al or more. That was one of the points of emphasis. So that is a big advantage to me. I mean they're probably the best coordinator duo in college football. Kodal, Nikki and Jim Knowles big advantage there. You know, then you have the travel. Oregon State. Oregon played last week. And I just look, if you go based on the eye test and you go based on just the results this year, you would be like, all right, I'm taking the points of the Oregon. But before the season this spread would have been seven and a half or more. So I'm sticking with my priorities. I'm basically just saying like, look, Oregon has a brand new team so they were like pedal to the metal and they're like figuring out what they have with more. And so they're, they're. And they're way more talented than all the teams they play. So obviously they looked great. But I still need to like. Dante Moore has never won a big game in his life. Like the quarterback experience. Now you're going to Happy Valley at night, white out. Like that's, that's way different. They're. Their best receivers are freshmen, the true freshman, their best tight ends. A true freshman. Like you're asking a lot of these guys going up against a really good defense and I need to see it more. Hasn't been under pressure. He hasn't had to make like tight window throws. And this is a guy that still really struggled anytime he got in. Now it's going to look a lot better at Oregon but at UCLA, whenever he played like a real Power 4 opponents. So yeah, I mean I think that Penn State prior has the more reliable quarterback at this moment. The better coordinator collection, the better running backs, their receivers are much improved. Like that's probably a wash. And I would take the Penn State defense over the Oregon defense right now. So I think this is just. You're getting Penn State cheap in a good spot. They haven't showed anything. And I'll make Dante more prove it to me that him and you know these young kids on this Oregon offense who haven't really played in a big game like this can get it done on the road. So I did play Penn State. I could look foolish, but I'm trusting more my priors and basically just saying like I Don't really care what I saw these first three weeks against you know, little sisters of the poor. For each three, all three teams throw in the bi week throw in like Penn State holding stuff back the more experienced team at home. I, I did roll with Penn State minus three.
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Well if Penn State wins this game then their season again shifts to a two game season where they can lose to Ohio State. But if then they beat them in the conference championship game, they'd probably be a top four seed. You think?
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Yeah.
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So it's like they would just now you would rather lose to Ohio State and then win the conference championship than the inverse because it might cost you a buy which I, I guess we're going to find out this year exactly how that works. If a situation like this plays because you go like is one game more important than the other? I don't know how do you think.
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That would play out? Yeah, it depends on like what the other, like how those other teams look. There's so many variables but if they're.
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If they're both like you know, 11 and 1 going into the game.
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Yeah, if they win, I don't, I think it wouldn't matter because like if you lose this home game but then you get a win at Ohio State like that kind of watched it away. If you win this and you lose it Ohio State, everyone's going to give you a pass. So I think at 111 win the conference title, you're, you're definitely a top seed. The only, I mean they have Indiana but they get them at home. That's like the only other really.
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I'll give Signetti some credit. I mean that was. I didn't take them that seriously based off last year and you win a game, who knows how good Illinois is but you win a 63 to 10 like that was impressive.
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They dominated that game start to finish. I mean Illinois did lose its. They were without their top 60 backs at one point in the game. But there was. They were going to blow, blow them out of the water regardless. So yeah, I did play Penn State here. Should be a good one though.
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Okay, last college game want to hit on Washington Ohio State. This is where like listen, it pains me that the PAC 12 doesn't exist but I do think it adds to the like the Big Ten is just better because of this And I would say the same thing with the SEC adding Texas and Oklahom when you start getting like a random Arkansas playing Oklahoma or Texas playing, you know, Mississippi State is just more interesting and Ohio State playing at Washington I remember a couple of years ago before they had moved conferences, I think this game got canceled because of the vid. There was some. It was Washington and Oregon were both playing Ohio State and, and, and Michigan. I forget the exactly what it was, but it was like, okay, these games are sweet. These were like the first couple of weeks opening games and they both got canceled. Might have been 2020, but this is a good game. I mean I think Jed's pretty good and I remember a buddy told me, I think we had talked about it, that last year was a transition year for him and they were going to use their nil once they got a year under their belt. And clearly I have. I just watched them against UC Davis, which obviously is not a fair fight, but they definitely are way more talented than they were last year. Now Ohio State's a different animal, but this is not an easy. It's a long travel for him, tough place to play. Like it's, I wouldn't consider it like, you know, the best environment in America, but it's not, it's not bad. I mean it's just. This is a tough game for Ohio State.
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Yeah, I played Washington. I mean I played them early in the week.
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They're plus they're getting over a touchdown. Seven and a half points.
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Yeah. So I think Washington super live in this game to pull off an upset. There's a couple things like they're better in the trenches and if people aren't familiar with Washington, and I agree, I think Washington is one of the most underrated home fields. You know, it's not the best, but it's one of the Most. They've won 22 straight at home, which is the longest for them since I think they're.
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You removed the year when Peterson retired and they put in what's his name. They've been really good for almost a decade now, haven't they?
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Yep. Yeah. And yeah, they've. They've won 22 straight at home. They, if you're not familiar with Washington, they have maybe the first receiver taken in the draft next year. I mean, because Smith is not going to go for. He can't, he can't go to the draft next year, which is crazy. Boston, they have one of the best running backs in the country and a guy who, who can also catch out of the back. I mean he's, he's going to be drafted playing the NFL Demon Williams, their quarterback is very, very good. He can run, he can throw like he's, he's a problem. They're better in the trenches. So I assume, like Ohio State's gonna try to take away Boston, but that's where, like Williams's legs, that's where, that's where their, their backs are going to come in out of the backfield. So there's some things they could do here. And then Jed Fish is probably a top five play caller, play designer in college football. They're so good in the scripted portion, which is huge when you're playing this huge game at home, if you can like jump out and nothing. Suffocated early and just build that momentum, get the crowd into it. And yeah, I still have questions about Ohio State. They're obviously one of the best, you know, handful of teams in the country. But my questions coming into the year were, okay, saying, what's he going to look like? When is he ready? He's looked great the first, the last two weeks. But against Texas, it was not great. And I mean, they, if Texas could score in the red zone. Ohio State loses that game. And we give all, we gave all the credit to the Ohio State defense, but the Texas offense and Arch have been horrendous since, like the next two weeks. Arch went 11 of 24 for 140 yards against UTEP at home. So I, They. I don't like. So I had to, I had to like, just step back and say, okay, wait, the. So I say defense lost a lot of. Maybe they're not as dominant as they looked. Maybe. I still have questions about Matt Patricia. So, like, I'll take Fish over Patricia. Now there's a couple things to keep in mind here because the Washington offense is really, really good. It's one of the best in the country. I don't, I think that they can score here, but can there. Can they get stops? So that's number one. It's going to like saying it's his first true rogue start in a hostile environment. We've seen freshmen, pardon my French, shit the bed in that scenario all year long. So that's, that's not easy. We'll see how he handles that. Washington plays a lot of COVID one, a lot of men. Their defense coordinators, Ryan Walters and, and they played a lot of men last year too, but they have two really, really good corners. Price, Sock. They're both Arizona transfers. Price, Sock and Takario Davis both gonna play at the next level. So. And that's the whole. They need that for their, for their defense. They can just match up on the outside. They're actually getting pressure this year too, without blitzing. Davis is questionable. He Hurt his ribs. I think he's gonna play. They need him. He didn't play last week. This is like a, something to keep an eye on. He didn't play last week. So they brought in the sophomore who got roasted by Washington State. He was, he was getting beat constantly. Then they had to bring in a true freshman. You don't want to be doing that against Cornell. Tate, Jeremiah Smith, like that's. They need Davis, they need Prostock in there. So that's something to watch. They also lost their last, their best linebacker last week to an injury. He's not going to play. But they might get an all conference kid from Arizona who tore his ACL last October. He has been practicing. He might come back, which is. Would be big because Washington doesn't have like the depth of an Ohio State. So that's another thing to keep an eye on. And they might get one of their best pass rushers who hasn't played this year back. So there's some moving pieces on this defense and you want this defense at full strength, especially Davis. That's something to keep an eye on. But if, if Davis does play, they have the guys to man up on the outside for saying into some tight throws, some mistakes, potentially. Can the run defense hold up? I don't think this Ohio State run game is anywhere close to as good as last year, so that's good. But that does scare me. But yeah, I think there's a lot of intangibles here that are working in Washington's favor. So I took some Purple Rain, plus the points. I think they're pretty live here, especially if Davis plays. But if he doesn't, it could be trouble.
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Okay, real talk.
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Okay, let's transition to the NFL. I saw a number and I'm like, oh, this is a classic. Team just blows out. They're going to Pittsburgh. Tomlin's a home dog. And then I realized, well, they're starting the international games, so not quite the.
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I'm like, don't love that number quite as much.
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The Steelers. I just, I don't know, man. I don't see it. And I think this week, you know, who knows? I mean, it's CARSON Wentz in 2025. Better than J.J. mcCarthy. No, I mean, that's, I guess a good problem to have given that if they didn't have a backup. I mean, JJ1, he's not even capable of playing. He's injured again, but, I mean, seven of eight cords were pretty bad. I just think if this defense is flying around Aaron, to me, just. He's looked old for a couple of years now. He just kind of slings that go route. He's always screaming at the referees for a flag. I mean, his. He looks old in the face. He's looked old for years, but like his play now looks his age.
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It's.
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I mean, father time comes for us all. I mean, he's fucking older than me. I mean, I. And I'm 40 years old, so it's like we shouldn't be that shocked. I think the Steelers are in big trouble. Just big picture. You get five turnovers and you struggle to win the game. If you give a good team, if you gave the Bills, the Ravens, the Lions, five turnovers, like, what would the score be? Would you. If you had to guess? 40 plus points. Right. You know, so, I mean, you're going to give that many possessions and many.
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Of them came like at the goal line, like driving for the win. Like it was insane.
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This feels too easy taking the Vikings here because there's no, like, I don't know how this line is not bigger. I guess it's just Carson Wentz.
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Yeah, Carson Wentz. People are always gonna. The Steelers are a public team. When there's a plus next to them, it's like Aaron Rodgers versus Carson Wentz. There's going to be enough support for the Steelers, but I agree, it's by under three. It's Vikings or nothing. Vikings are going to get Addison back. They should get Kelly back. Their center, Darasol came back. Their left tackles, their offensive line. Jackson will miss the rookie from Ohio State who's looked really, really good, but they should be okay on the offensive line. Their defense is pretty much close to healthy. The Steelers are not like they have a bunch of defensive injuries that we're recording this on Wednesday, early afternoon. So I don't know their injury report, but they're not fully healthy on defense and their defenses looked horrendous. Like you're talking about a Steelers team that arguably should be 03 and then this line definitely would be over a field goal. Like they were outplayed by the Seahawks. I know there was a fluke special teams play, but they were outplayed by the jets for the most part. And then they were outplayed last weekend, so they can.
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They've been out gained in their two wins by like 280 yards or something.
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Yeah, they've. They're. They easily could be 0 and 3 and I mean the Vikings have a pair of dominant wins. They should win a line of scrimmage battle on both sides now that they're healthier on the offensive line. The Steelers defensive line besides Hayward has not been great. And where this comes down to for Mays, you pretty much alluded to it. The Steelers can't run the ball. They've been really poor there. Their offensive line has not been great. Their tackles in particular and the Vikings defense, where you can get them is on the ground. But the Steelers can't really run it. And Rogers been the worst quarterback in the league this year under pressure. And Steelers are 31st in pass block win rate. So what does that mean they can't run it? They're going to be in third and longs Rodgers is six of 22 when under pressure this season with three picks. So. And Vikings are top three in pressure rate. So it's going to be third and longs and Flores bringing pressure on Rodgers and he's not going to have any recourse.
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And was there a better quarterback in his prime against the pressure. Against pressure than him?
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Nope.
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That tells you everything you need to know, right?
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Yeah. And now he's just. It's. It's sad to watch. So yeah, I. Under three I like the Vikings favorites have been really good in these overseas games.
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For what it's worth, you called it last week. You said week three is prime for an upset. Right.
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And too bad about the Rams plus three and a half. Probably the worst feet I've ever had. 20 years.
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But. But the Browns beat the Packers. Now you also said this Browns defense is good and listen, you win a game 10 nothing or 10 to 3 on the road at Cleveland at the end of the season, if you win 13, 14 games, no one judges you for that. This isn't college football. No one gives a shit. Right. That's. It's a good win. Get out of there. Get moving. They lose that game. So now everyone's like what's up with the packers, the Cowboys? I probably was a little hyperbolic calling Eber flu is the worst defensive coach. And I understand that they have bad defensive personnel, but when guys are wide open, this used to happen to Brian and Staley. When guys are wide open, that means the coaching, the players have no clue what's going on. That means they Are whether it's me or you playing defensive back, they're just completely in. This is the NFL. Diggs tripping against Rome happens like people trip. But when a guy's just wide open, especially in red zone spots, like your players are clueless when they break the huddle. I don't. I think I would be stunned if the packers don't win this game by double digits.
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Now.
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I think the thing would be how good, like how potent is the packers offense, but I just think it's an easy one full of floor to kind of, you know, just fucking get after their ass this week. And he's already kind of a red ass defensively with CD gone. I mean, you felt it immediately when he rolls his ankle. Like their offense goes from pretty good to like, oh, not quite the same. I this feels, especially with the Micah stuff like 30 to 13 or something written all over it. I. This is my favorite line on the board and I typically don't love these like, you know, minus sevens on the road, but I, I'd be stunned if the Packers. I'll look at the packers differently if this game's close.
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Yeah, I mean, the Cowboys also. The Cowboys offense now has. You lost Lamb. You also have a couple of your starting off as a lineman around now. So their offense still can be feisty with Dak, who can probably put up some points. I don't mind the over, but I don't know.
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Pickens has looked good.
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Yeah, I don't know how they get stops and their, their offense just isn't. Isn't at the same level. Not with a healthy offensive line. Of course not without Lamb. Like that was going to be what they had to fall back on this year. You had to hope the offensive line was good, Dak was great. And then you brought in Pickens and then you have these two dynamic receivers. Well, now you're basically the Steelers offense of last year. And without a defense, special teams are good. So like how many points can they steal with their returns, kick returns. And then Aubrey hitting 70 yarders. So that's all indoors. That's always a thing with the Cowboys. Like there's going to be a lot of drives where they just need like 10 yards to get a field goal. But how do you think.
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What do you think they could trade Aubrey for third rounder?
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It's possible. The 49ers, they.
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They trade. They trade a third round four.
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They should. So the, the 49ers also can't figure out the kickoff, the new kickoff. Really the worst teams have the Worst, the best starting field position against them. You know who has figured it out?
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The Rams.
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The Rams and the Panthers, they. They kick these knuckleballs, these like knuckleball line drives and these teams can't. The Eagles, like, started at like the 12 yard line, like all game long is insane. But the Panthers and Rams, the average starting field position for their opponents is like the 20 yard line.
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Wow.
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And then like the 49ers is like the 34. Like, it's a huge difference.
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I hate it when like I was it Bates on Monday night where he tried to, like, he's trying to angle these and it goes out of bounds. You just give to him on the 40.
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I'm like, give it. Give it to him on the 40. If, if you gave that to Bryce young on the 40, let alone Lamar Jackson, that.
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That is a devastating play to kick it out of bounds nowadays. I would never angle it toward the front pylons, ever. The penalty's too great. I mean, it's basically, I would imagine the expected points value, it'd be like minimum, like two and a half, three points.
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Yeah.
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Starting the 40, the.
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Yeah. You have. Teams have to start. I'm curious to see how many catch on how many are practicing these line drive knucklers. I don't know if every. I don't know the ins and outs of the art of kicking, but I don't know how easy it is to learn to do that. But that's been really effective so far.
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This rule has worked because the kickoff is more interesting, for sure.
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Yeah. I mean, the kickoff percentage, the amount of returns is through the roof. It's insane. It's like 80% of them are being returned, but the field position hasn't gone up too much. But there's more variance. And part of that, it's like some of these teams are doing it really well. And then there's, there's bigger returns. There's a lot of times there's teams are starting at the 40, so it definitely made it more interesting. But yeah, packers should score at will here. Like, their offensive line is banged up, so I'm curious to see if they get some of those guys back, which really cost them last week. They couldn't block Cleveland, couldn't block them. There was no block. They, they had nothing. Like they, they didn't have any clip.
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Run, Jordan, run.
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Yes. That was amazing. Like, they, they, they couldn't block them. Now they're. Now if you're playing the Cowboys and you have offensive lineagers, it's not really that big of a deal. They don't have an elite pass rush and then you mentioned Parsons so yeah I couldn't bet the Cowboys here the packers are nothing. I actually don't mind the over either. So get Cowboys be throwing a fast up tempo and the packers should score. It will Cowboys should put up a couple touchdowns here at the very minimum. So yeah and then I'm curious to see if the the Browns against the Lions like the Ravens aren't able to get pressure. The the Browns can get pressure and that lines into your offensive line is an issue. If you have guys and Cleveland has guys and golf. If you can get him under pressure that's how you fluster. Now he's going to be indoors. Can the can they. Can they hold him down enough to where Flacco on that offense can do enough? I don't know but it'll be fun to watch for sure. But yeah, I agree with you on your packers take. I what else did I play? I did play the Falcons. Lines come down a bit but I still like them. The Commanders are Panick's had a nightmare game. I still believe in him. He just. It was an awful game. Quarterbacks have these when they're young. He hasn't even started a full season yet. The Commanders are beat up, their secondaries beat up. Lost a couple starters. I mean they're signing like Darnell Savage from the Jags who just got cut. He might start this week. Dick McLaren I don't think is going to play. We still don't know when Jane Daniels, if he does play I don't think he's going to be mobile. So yeah, this is a. I think this is a pretty good spot. This is like the trifecta of spots for the Falcons. They lost last week. They lost 30 nothing but I mean they outgamed the Panthers by a hundred. 100 yards. It was kind of misleading. It just kind of. It just was one of those games where everything went against them. Penix was so inaccurate. They missed a couple field goals. There was two defensive touch like it was a mess but just to.
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These.
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These spots underdog off of a shutout loss. 46, 29 and 3 against the spread over the past 25 years. 61% dogs off of a 30 plus point loss. 115, 76 and 8 against the spread. 60% against the spread. That applies to the Bengals, Saints and Falcons this week. What is the theme right there? I just told you. You want to bet the Falcons against the Commanders, the Saints against the Bills, the Bengals against the Broncos. Do you want to bet any of those teams? No, no. That's one of the reasons why these things usually you're going to get. These are professionals. You're going to get their best effort the next week. But you. A lot of times the line is going to be a bit inflated like this. This Bill's. Bill's Saints line would have been 14 before last week. And the thing is the Saints didn't even play that bad on a down to down basis. They gave up like 28 points on special teams. It was insane. Like they've got a punt block for a touchdown. They got an 80 yard punt return. It was a disaster on special teams.
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So 15 plus point spread in not even in October. It's pretty large.
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Yeah. If I get 17 here, I'm definitely on it. I still might bet 16 and a half. Like here's the thing. The, the, the Saints, the Bills are just going to run it here and they're probably not gonna. You don't run Allen in the game like this. No. So like you're. They're gonna get a lead and by the way they were just favored by 11 and a half against the disaster of the Dolphins. And they, they were. The Dolphins were in that game until the very end and the Bills didn't cover. But the Saints are like 16th in success rate and non garbage time. 13th passing success rate like Rattler has been okay.
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They have good offensive pieces.
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Yeah. And they're going to. And the Saints have a top 10 run defense so far. So like their run D's been pretty good. So what does that mean is like if the Bills get up big they're just going to sit on this and the Saints run these been good. Like they can get some stops and the Bills don't care and then they could get in the back door. They also could just be hang around here. So I think they're going to get a couple offensive lineman back now situationally like it's good off a 30 point loss but they're coming across the country. Bills have extra rests or second straight road game. That's not ideal. And we'll see if Oliver Milano play for Buffalo. But that. That's just too high. That's another one like the Bengals. Broncos, Bengals. You wouldn't be getting over seven here if they didn't lose by 40. But a lot of that. They had five turnovers like that game gross. Yeah. Like Isaiah Rogers had like the greatest game in NFL history from a cornerback and everything just went downhill. Then you're playing against Flores is bringing the house and so you know this is still Bo Nicks laying over. Touchdown. I did play the Bengals plus seven and a half but historically playing those teams off 30 plus point losses. When you think about it, who wants to bet those teams has and you're getting them now over key numbers has generally been a recipe for success.
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Okay, real talk.
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Two more interesting games I saw Sirianni say, obviously the Bucks have kind of had their number. They're leaving early, which I don't know the exact flight. I've actually made it before, but it's not that far. You wouldn't typically go two days, you know, Friday if you're playing the Bucks from Philly. So it's I don't want to say it's in their head, but it's something they, I'm sure they've been talking about for a while. You know, the Bucks you got Mike Evans is out. Right. But Godwin and, and worse could return. Right. I think they, you know, I know the GM a little bit. I think worse, they've been really slow playing it. They feel pretty good about them. They just didn't want to rush him back. Smart move. I mean, it's too important. But I don't know. I mean, I the Bucks have pulled some games obviously out of there. You know what I think? First time in NFL history, three straight comebacks, three straight weeks to open the.
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Season or something, they have three wins by six total points.
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Yeah.
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So.
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But it's not like the Eagles easily. Speaker 1 yeah, so I don't know. I mean, I I just think. Do you. If you get over a field goal, you got to take Tampa at home in this situation because. Or is Kevin Patola just going to start throwing to, I don't know, AJ Brown all the time might be a good idea if they open up the offense. I like the Eagles a little bit more, but I don't know. I mean, A.J. brown even said after the game he's like, I don't know why we're so conservative. Just throw the ball, get the ball to our playmakers in space. Like, what are he. I mean, he did it in a nice way. He was good about it. And I don't know he 100% was correct, but he basically said, what the fuck have we been doing? Let him throw the ball outside the numbers.
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Yeah. So that's the big wild card here because you can't run on Tampa. Tampa's run defense is elite. They're number one in the NFL so far this season. So. And the Eagles do miss Becton. Like, their offensive line isn't the same in the interior, which is why Barkley hasn't been able to get going. And the offense has been predictable. So they come out here and just try to run it like the Bucks are gonna be in the game, but if they come out and throw it in or aggressive, so I don't know on that front in order. And yeah, they're trying to go down there and acclimate to the weather, the humidity and humidity. So. But Tampa, you need. You need worse, I think, and probably Godwin to play now. Luke has been really good, but he also doesn't get the attention, like, as much attention because you have Evans on the field. So like now, if it's just him out there, it's definitely going to be tougher because the Eagles have a problem at their second corner spot. So. But so like, you want like two good receivers out there. Baker still finds a way. But worse is huge this week because this is not the defensive line. Like they went. The jets don't have a great defensive line and they were missing one of their best pass rushers last week. The Bucks could not block them. Now you might say, okay, well, they put up points. I can't. There's. There comes a point in time where if you're a ref, you just, you can't call. You can't call 30 penalties. Like you just can't keep call. Like I, I imagine. I don't know. I've never been ref. I. They. They could have called a hold on every play. I think that Bucks had eight penalties in the first quarter. It was insane. They were. Every play was a hold.
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So you think Roger calls it a halftime? Like, hey guys, this is a TV product. We gotta.
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But even as a rep, like, you're. You're in Tampa too. No, I know the human nature. You're like, I can't keep doing this. So. But the. So now that you're going Eagles defense line isn't as good as last year, but it's really good. It's a lot better than the Jets. So if you don't have worse, get Decker. Your right tackles on ir. Your right guard Mock is on ir. If you don't have worse. Your center is still at left tackle. It's an absolute circus. But if you get Worf's back, you have one of the best left tackles in the NFL. On Baker's blindside, you get Barton back at center and like, it's not as bad. Still not ideal. But if you don't have worse and basically it's like five guys that are new with their positions and like the guy you had a left guard is even. He's been. Even been out. Like, so it is a disaster. So worse coming back and Barton being able to go to center and then Godwin is huge because of Evans being out. So without knowing that, without knowing the Eagles game plan, these two teams have owned me this year. I had the Rams last week. Disaster. I had the Falcons against the Bucks, the Texans against the Bucks. Luckily I had the jets and they almost screwed me again. But. So I haven't had a good read on these teams, although I've been really unlucky. But these two teams are the luck teams. I don't know if worse is back. I would take over three, but I don't have a good feel. I am curious to see. I told you this last week. I. The NFL is gonna. They came out and they said we're gonna officiate the Tush Push closer. It's gonna cost Eagles four points. Well, they went off sides the first one and they didn't call it. The whole world saw it and they end up. They end up calling it on the Saints. The poor old Saints got a false start on the Tush Push. I couldn't believe they didn't call that. It led to four points. I would even have had to pull my hair out because of that missed field goal. If that didn't happen, it would have been a field goal for the Eagles. Couldn't believe they didn't call that. It was like the most obvious false start. But an interesting thing here with this push was number one. Are they going to call false start. Could like take four points off the board, kill a drive. And the Bucks have Vita Vea and they're. I think they're going to activate the big guy, Desmond Watson from Florida who weighs like 400. And they, I think they. They drafted him or signed him just for the. To play the Eagles this year.
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That is sweet.
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I didn't.
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Honestly, I didn't even think about when I saw the headline that they had. They had resigned him to their practice squad. Is that what they did this week? Was he not even. Yeah. Gotcha.
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So I assume they're going to bring him up. He's.
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That is sick. Him and Vita Bay in the middle. So the tush push stopper.
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Yeah, that's, that's basically why he got drafted or why he got signed. I don't think he was drafted, but that's his, that's his role. So like this is a huge game for him. He gets a stop on the tush push.
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He just goes team to team.
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Whoever's playing the Eagles, they just sign him. That would be amazing. So that'll be fun to watch in the game. But I don't have a strong feel that injuries are.
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You've had, you've had good stats over the years on the interim coach. That interim boost. What about the rookie quarterback coming in the first round or when a guy gets bent like Russell Wilson. I'm taking the giants this week plus six. You know the Chargers, they go 13 and four. You lose basically one game a month right now you would say you're going to lose this game. But they've just huge start to their season. You beat every team in your division. I can imagine. That was a huge point of emphasis all off season. We start fast this year, we take the, we have a huge lead, we get a little buffer. Like this is a long road trip. I mean this is the type like you go two days early because it's a six hour flight from Los Angeles. Listen, I actually think the weird part about the Giants, they have been shitty now for beside the 9 and 8 season for a long time. They do feel like they got some players. I mean Brian Burns, like, God, Kayvon Thibodeau looks the best I think he's ever looked. Abdul Carter, I mean there is no way do you think there's a GM in the league if you're like, hey, you get the opportunity to draft Travis Hunter. Abdul Carter, what do you think the ratio would be for Abdul Carter? 32 to 0.
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Yeah. Or 31 to 1 apparently.
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But they might change their tune.
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Yeah, they might change their tune.
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I'm not anti Travis Hunter, but Abdul Carter looks like he got a chance to be like Michael Parsons 2.0. He's a freak. Adam standing up last week.
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I like their roster.
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They just stuck him in a linebacker and he was good.
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Scatter.
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Boo.
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Like that style wouldn't have worked maybe 30 years ago. But these guys are smaller now. They're smaller, faster guys. So he's running over safeties like they don't look like safeties from when I was a kid and you were a kid like Tim McDonald those guys don't exist. There's Todd Bowles was the same Todd Bowles is big.
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All the safeties now weigh like 200 pounds. They're fast cover guys. So Malik neighbors a freak. I think eventually the Giants aren't they're not like some two win team and I like the Giants in this spot and I still like I'm not off the Chargers but this is your classic.
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I can just see the Chargers coming.
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Out flat a little bit and the Giants getting a huge boost now rookie quarterback you never know this defensively not.
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The easiest matchup sideways but with a rookie but it's got to be better than what Wilson looked like last week. The Giant should have covered that game. I had them plus six and a half. Sadly they lost their kicker before the game which cost them like nine points because they couldn't kick field goals they couldn't kick extra points. They had to go for it. They didn't get fourth downs at the end they even would have kicked another field goal instead of throwing it into the tunnel four times But Mahomes had like four or five turnover they plays he didn't turn it over at all like he had a couple they were really unlucky. Their defense was was dominant in that game and their defense is better. Even the back end of their defense they added Holland. I like Newbin they improved their secondary. You got flot in there instead of bank who's been playing well and yeah the the how the Giants can win this game twofold and and first time quarterbacks have had success against the spread it's not overwhelming but generally been decent bets. The you have Dart who the Chargers don't really know what to expect from the offense so you have that uncertainty working for you like well he's been.
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Bringing them in like plays like he would run for Michael Vic or Lamar Jackson.
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Yeah so there's probably going to be like more zone read and the other thing is Andrew Thomas should play a full like he's massive for that. He didn't play in the second half they had him on a snap count and he should be well he only played the whole he played the whole first half then the second half they brought in the back and they're back up so bad and the whole offensive line falls apart but he should be back and he's one of the best left tackles when health and he looked healthy last week. That'll help but they'll probably run a lot of read read option stuff. I like dart so and the other Thing is the Chargers offensive line is an issue right now. Like we knew that bald is a stud. He moved the left tackle. But last week they lost Beckton who's in his concussion so I don't think he'll play. And after they lost Becton it and Pipkins went out too. The right tackle was really bad but he gave up like nine pressures. Last week they brought in this kid Salier who was getting tossed like a rag doll and Herbert had no time whatsoever. The Giants are one of the best defensive best pass rushes in the NFL so Herbert could be under fire here. Maybe the charges go back to just leaning on the run. The Giants run D isn't great but Dexter Lawrence against you know Sally or whoever or and then whoever they want to put on the the left side to rush Herbert it. The charters offense could look a little subdued here go this is. There's like three teams in the NFL like that. The Giants are the Giant. It's like the Giants, the Broncos, the Browns, the Vikings. Because a scheme where like their, their front can just ruin a game and they almost did against the Chiefs like they, they, they were just so, so you know so close to a couple of game changing turnovers that could happen this week.
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Packers probably now.
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Yeah, Packers. So the. Yeah, I'll be on the Giants as well.
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Okay. Any thoughts on just the all time great Monday night football game and the Miami Dolphins against the New York jets.
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Over. If anything the Dolphins off defense can't be fixed. Their secondary is bad. The jets defense is bad. Like you're telling me you gave up. You lost that game last week. The Bucks couldn't block like they had five backup offensive linemen and Evans gets hurt. I mean we saw the Steelers put up 40 like the jets defense is broken and they had more injuries. They lost Quinn and Williams two zero and three teams. Historically when there's winless teams it's like 64% against the spread to take the dog in those spots. It's like ridiculous clip that they hit at but under 45 I think this game can get a little loose and both Defenses are bad. 20 and 3 teams. The Dolphins offense has woken up a bit the past two weeks. So yeah I would, I would look over there but oh my God we got Browning Knicks whoever the jets are going to have a quarterback and Tua.
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I'm going Jets money line. I don't mind it going jets money line. This is I mean Rog, Roger's got to be disappointed with the schedule maker in this situation. He can't Be happy bad. But this is also why they manipulate and cook in the books with these double headers that he'd give you two crappy games but still two games. What else are you going to watch?
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And one of them probably close.
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Yeah. Okay Stucky, thanks for coming on early with us and appreciate your time and enjoy. I mean this is is a fantastic Saturday is going to be got a chance to be pretty special.
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Yeah Saturday amazing, amazing slate. If you have any plans, get out of them. And yeah, the whole week is going to be great. You even mentioned TCU, Arizona State. That's a huge one in the Big 12 for like who's going to potentially get to play Texas Tech. It looks like Josh Hoover might be the best quarterback in the country. Check him out if you haven't seen him.
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You like TCU plus two and a half? It's pretty hot. It's pretty hot here. I need hot in Texas too.
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I want to get a 3 so my only concern, I gotta look into this. You can follow follow along in the Action Network app to see if I play it. So it's free Hoover on the last play of the game. I don't know why he was in the game or why they were running a play, but he got, he like got hobbled and it didn't look good. I don't know what I gotta look into that. But yeah, if I can get three, even a two and a half. I think Hoover legit might be QB1 in this class. He's that good.
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Well, keep an eye on that one. Excited? Okay, Stucky, talk to you soon.
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Absolutely. Have a good one. The volume.
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