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3 & Out - Reaction To Bengals STUNNING Steelers On TNF, Betting NFL Week 7
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Kind of like Robin Hood, except for.
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The part where he steals from the.
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Rich and gives to the poor. I'm not that generous.
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What do we do? That was dumb.
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People.
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What's up everybody? It's snacks from the Trap nerds all October long, we're bringing you the horror.
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Boogity, boogity, boogity. We kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified.
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Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first.
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And it's the return of Tony's horror.
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Show side Quest, written and narrated by your truly.
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We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary.
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And we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle Royale. Open your free Aha. Radio app and search Trap Nerds podcast and Listen now.
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I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you.
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When you think about emotion regulation, you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier.
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Easier.
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Complex problem solving takes effort.
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Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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He out dueled Aaron Rodgers because Aaron threw a couple picks. One not his fault. The other one was and Flacco did not. He only got sacked a couple times and he threw for 340 yards and three touchdowns and has turned Jamar Chase into a video game player again. So we will dive into all things the Bengals 33, the Steelers 31. Who would have saw so why we play the games that that was fun and we'll dive into a couple other things football wise as well as have Stucky on the show. Stuckey, our good buddy comes on every Friday and we'll talk some gambling on this fugazi. I gotta get fugazi Friday. Forget about it sometimes in the season because we're just talking football, watching football. But I guess the only fugazi was thinking that Joe Flacco couldn't play anymore. Mike Tomlin did not, though he tried to tell everybody. So if you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to the 3Now feed wherever you may listen if you want to watch. We Go live. We went live Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night. A lot of live shows on the YouTube page so you can catch us streaming with the kids at night here on on Thursdays. But make sure you subscribe to that as well and leave a comment, maybe even like it. But let's talk some football. You just this is why we love football. Because like most people, I thought that the Pittsburgh Steelers were going to kill the Cincinnati Bengals and that's not what happened. And we got a moment, we got a legit moment. So we will dive into this game. The positives for who day and the Cincinnati Bengals, who just, I mean they got to be feeling pretty good about they're three and four. They got the jets coming up after this little mini buy. All of a sudden you look out, the Bengals could be 4 and 4 and the Steelers, man, they got some issues tonight. Couple other things going on. Kurt Signetti of Indiana just signed a contract for $93 million, fully guaranteed. $93 million. And we're going to see some NFL jobs open. We already have one. Could easily have another one open in the next couple weeks. I wouldn't be stunned if over the next month we have several jobs open. Those jobs don't pay that, I promise you that. And then some other things around the National Football League and a little college as well, too. We just got a lot going on, but I think we have to start with that was fun. Like that was a really good story. And this storyline of Joe Flacco and Common's comments earlier in the week when it came to the way he viewed the Browns of just being a complete embarrassment for treating Joe Flacco like a widget and trading him to the Cincinnati Bengals. And then Joe Flacco in two weeks turning Jamar Chase back into, I don't know, one of the best players on the planet. Since Flacco has been the quarterback for the Bengals, Jamar Chase is 26 catches and 250 yards and two touchdowns. And tonight, and him and his road dog T. Higgins dominated this game. And you know what Joe Flacco realized and you watch him play one. Like I thought this Bengals offensive line was atrocious and I guess statistically they had been over the last several years. But watching them tonight, they were really good. Up until Cam Hayward and TJ Watt sacked Flacco late in the game, they hadn't touched him for like two and a half hours of real time. Flacco was sitting back there eating some Cincinnati chili, hanging out and just slinging that pill to number one and number five. And they dominated tonight. And I've always had like you never have to apologize again. The NFL and in college too, when you're playing a team that you clearly are better when you win, like in the NFL a little more than college, you just, it's just about winning the game. But we still are critical. When you're a 10, 15, 8 point favorite, whatever in the NFL and you win an ugly game, like you're going to get criticized, right? But at the end of the day, like you stack enough of those up, all of a sudden you look up, got some bad wins, who cares? We got 12 at the end of.
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The season, we win the division.
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But you're watching tonight and you're going Thursday Night Football. The advantage as the season goes on for these pros. I mean look around the league. Anyone that plays fantasy football, if you go to Roto World, follow your team on Twitter. Guys are dropping like flies. Every team has countless injuries. So when you have to go on the road for Thursday, one, you don't get to practice, two, you got to get on a, on a bird on Wednesday. So your Wednesday where the home team again they're not practicing either, but they can do more walkthroughs. Their coaches have more capabilities to game plan because they could be in the office. You're at a pretty big disadvantage. So your margin for error on the road, even when you are the better team in theory is not as wide that if this game was played on a normal Sunday where I think everyone and their mother, you know, I would say everyone picked the Steelers tonight. But you know, Thursday night it can be weird. Divisional game we just had last week, what happened? Eagles on the road playing the Giants and they get their ass kicked. And tonight I think part of it was, you know, tanking is a major problem in the sport of basketball and it's, it's played a part in baseball but there's like an economic situation there of teams just not being able to afford players. But in basketball, which is understandable, teams try to lose to get the opportunity to draft great players. Even though now with the draft lottery, just because you have the worst record, I think it was like the Wizards and the Jazz, slash, they drafted like five and six. So this is not the NFL. And the thing I've always respected about the NFL, even when I disagree with it, sometimes I'm like, hey, you should lose. I supported Steven Ross once upon a time. He's like, hey, Brian, he's going to pay you 100k to lose. To get Joe Burrow. Probably a good move. But what Brian Flores do, I'm not doing it. He won three of his last five games because that's the way the NFL works. And a huge part of the NFL and part of what Sam Hinkey did when they did the, the process and they just actively tried to lose their roster was a joke. They did not sign veteran players. Well, in the NFL, even if you are going young and it's clear you're not going to win that many games, you like to keep young or, excuse me, old veteran guys, people that have a lot of pelts on their wall, know what they're doing around the building to teach the young guys the direction and where to go. And part of Mike Tomlin's rant this week, like, do I think Mike Tomlin believes Joe Flacco is like, you know, John Elway in his prime? Of course not. But he goes like, this is a real quarterback in this franchise with those two wide receivers, if they can just get a capable quarterback, can be a real freaking team. Because just a couple years ago they were in the super bowl last year with an atrocious defense. They were one of the best offenses in the league and they were a blown early season game away from being a playoff team. I mean, they were super hot at the end of the year. And he's like, they're in our division. This is not basketball. We don't just tank, especially in the middle of October, and you just hand them this player in the division. And then we watched the last two weeks, they look way better with Joe Flacco at quarterback. And if you're not going to pressure Joe Flacco, he can eviscerate you as he did tonight. Like, even some of his misses, he's hitting Jamar Chase in the hands. Like, his chemistry with these players, despite literally having his first practice with them last Wednesday, is pretty mind blowing to see, but it's a huge advantage. Like any of Us in any industry, the longer you do something, the more comfortable you are with having to adapt and change on the fly, where when you get young people and things and variables come into play, they can kind of melt. And you saw Joe Flacco, like, I was like, I kind of get it. And props to the Bengals. And listen, I got to give Joe Flacco credit because if you would have told me when Andrew Barry got on the phone and said, joe, I'm treating you like a widget because I look at everyone on this roster besides maybe Miles Garrett, like a widget, even though we always fucking suck. And everyone gives me credit for being a genius because I got an Ivy League degree and same with my coach, and we're just never good. Oh, yeah, the guy that might win the MVP we once had here, and we replaced him with DeSean Watson, who clearly is one of the worst players we've ever seen. Once we signed him and we signed him to the biggest guaranteed contract in the history of the NFL, but that's beside the point. But, Joe, you're headed to the Cincinnati Bengals. You're the new starting quarterback. If Joe would have said, listen, Andrew, I appreciate the opportunity of you bringing me around, paying me four or five million dollars to be the bridge quarterback, but if I wasn't going to start here, I would have been cool with just being around. I don't want to do this. I'm going to officially now retire. I don't think anyone would have blamed him. It's like, you know, he's 40, 41 years old. You're going to a team that's, you know, pretty desperate. I know they got some wide receivers, but you're watching the night, the joy he has playing football. I give him a lot of credit because I started thinking, like, if I was in his shoes and I got that call, and it's one thing, like, whatever, he's making four or five million dollars. So $300,000 a game. To a lot of people in society, that would be game changing, life changing, money. How much money? Flacco made a couple hundred million dollars in his playing career. Money's not an issue for Joe. So it's like, do I want to do this? And not only did he. Does he look like he wants to do it, looks like he's embraced it, and he figured out, like, a pretty basic formula. Throw the ball to Jamar Chase. What do you want to do this play? Throw the ball again to Jamar Chase, and if he's not open, throw the ball to T. Higgins. And occasionally hand it to our running back who's averaging 10 yards of carry against this defense, which, listen, they kind of sucked me back in. Like, okay, the Steelers defense looks a lot better, looks a lot more physical. Their defensive lines dominating. Jalen Ramsey's playing at a high level. I mean, tonight their secondary was absolutely eviscerated. I mean, Jamar Chase, he felt like an NBA player. You know, when you're like, watching Steph Curry or Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant or whoever, who is just giving a team the business, it's like, I think he's going to score like 55 points and every time down the court, just give him the ball and get out of his way. It's like Doug Collins once famously said, yeah, we ran the play that said, yeah, get the ball to Michael and get the fuck out of the way. That was the play tonight that they ran over and over to Jamar Chase. And whether it was Jalen Ramsey, whether it was the group of the other DBs, they had absolutely no chance to slow him down. It was one man against an entire secondary, and that man dominated. And it turns out that man, Jamar Chase, is not just one of the best wide receivers, he's one of the best players in the league. Sometimes it makes me think, like, it's almost underrated how incredible that passing offense is. They had Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase with Joe Burrow on the same college offense. No wonder they shattered records. But, like, I found myself as that gay going as that game was going, rooting for Joe Flacco, like I wanted to see, especially once Rogers hit that crazy ass play to Fryer move that they take the lead 31 to 30. I'm like, I text a couple of people, I'm rooting for Joe Flacco to drive down the field. And how about at the end of the game, T. Higgins? That's the other thing. Like, you watched Jamar Chase a couple times. He stayed in bounds. He tried to stay in bounds on one, and they kind of ripped him out. Those two wide receivers, let's face it, wide receivers can be exhausting sometimes. Ask Howie and Sirianni what they're dealing with over there. Though. Not totally AJ's fault. Like, they don't throw the ball enough. But again, like, it's about myself and it's about my stats, and those two guys played a really, really high cue physical game that I. And that slide at the end by T. Higgins was just a really, really impressive play. You know, it's one of those that I'm Sure. Coaching points you're talking about in the huddle. I feel like a lot of wide receivers, especially someone of his caliber, like, just fly to the end zone and try to score, and maybe he ends up not scoring and it works out anyway. But I don't know what percentage of players do, you know, like the Ken Griffey slide there, but it's not as high as you think. And to me, the story of the game was Joe Flacco, the Cincinnati Bengals offense just shredding the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. And this is what I said early in the season. I'm giving them a little bit of a pass. Thursday game, and these Thursday road games are hard, but if you have that in the bag, if you're playing other teams that have great players and you cannot stop them, they're not going anywhere. And I actually think it's a pretty big indictment on this division of one. The Bengals aren't dead if Flacco is going to play like that. And I do think it puts a ceiling on this Steeler team. Obviously, you know, the Steelers offense, pretty boring to watch. They got three tight ends who are all good. I texted a buddy in the NFL. I was like, do you think that Darnell Washington could just transition to, like, right tackle? And also, I guess you could put some packages in where he could catch.
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The ball in the red zone as well.
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But, like, because I don't know if you've seen. But tackles make a lot more money than tight ends. He's 300 pounds right now. It's not like, you know, he's 260. You'd have to add 60 pounds.
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He.
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He'd have to add like 15 pounds. He already has the foot speed now. I don't know physically, is he mean enough to play? I don't know, but that's the thing that crossed my mind. And then to put him with the other tight ends that they have in DK Metcalf, and then they just kept running, like, pitches and sweeps to Jalen Ward. I mean, their offense, the Bengals defense, is not very good, but that. That's. I didn't find that a very enjoyable Pittsburgh Steeler team to watch, but to me, it all gets back to, like, one. You're not going to be able to run it like that against a lot of teams. I mean, the Bengals defense, I don't know if they teach tackling, like, legitimately in the franchise. It fell a couple times. It's not easy to tackle in the NFL. Guys are fast, physical, but, like, it didn't even look like you were trying sometimes. And Jalen Warren's like, are you serious? I'll just get another 10 yards. But that's that version of the Steeler team. Like they're going nowhere.
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They even.
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They make the playoffs.
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That's, that's a one and done squad.
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And let's face it, like, Rogers through two picks tonight, one wasn't his fault. One was the guy they gave $150 million to and just had the ball ripped out of his hands. The other was, I would say, an un Rogers like play. I mean, one thing you would say over the course of his career, he's pretty conservative when it comes to just especially on and on. Like, you know, fourth down in the second half, like acting like a punt. Like, I think he thought that he had DK Metcalf. He looked off the safety and DK would just take off with speed like a rocket booster and give his guy a chance to make a 50, 50 play down the sideline. And DK wasn't even close to beating the corner. And then the safety came over and picked it off kind of easily. It was really an atrocious decision for like at this point in time with Aaron Rodgers, you know, he's not like, he was no different. Joe Flacco tonight, think about that. He was no different than Joe Flacco moves a little bit better. But you're just watching the two of them play like they're playing a similar game. Pocket quarterbacks getting rid of the ball relatively fast and trying to get the ball in their playmakers and let it make plays. Now Rogers has more foot quickness than Flacco, but like, when you watch those two guys play, did you see that big of a difference. Did you say one guy's an exceptional talent and the other guy's a scrub? Not at this point. You saw two icy hot guys, two older players. Now, Aaron, that, that final Hail Mary is a thing of beauty. I would say he's the greatest Hail Mary thrower at least of my lifetime. Maybe there were guys in like the 60s, 70s and 80s that were a little bit before my time, but his, his Hail Mary is the thing.
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Beauty.
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He could probably do that better.
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Joe Fl.
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Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu every single episode.
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32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop.
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What? Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads.
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Yes, it's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh wow, Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.
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What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?
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Sorry Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.
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I forgot whose podcast we were doing.
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Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's, let's, let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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What's up everybody? This is Snax from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.
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Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Silent Hill. Me and Tony bringing back Fireteam on Left 4 Dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.
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Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figuring out why black people always gotta die first.
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The Umbral reliquary invites any and all fooling brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take it all sales are final.
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Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special.
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And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy Michael My Nerds versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
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I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.
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I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, we not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it. If it's going to be beneficial to you because it's easy to just say like. Like you go blank yourself, right?
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It's easy.
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It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving. Meditating, you know, takes effort.
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Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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The Rich Russians Falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad oligarch season two. Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths, which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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But other than that, like, he's not doing that much. When I, whenever I see people like, Rogers is back. Roger's back. No, I mean, he's kind of been what he's been the last couple years now. He's on a more well buttoned up operation than the jets, who are just a historic dumpster fire. But like, physically, this does not look like the guy that won his first MVP for LaFleur whatever, five, six years ago, which is kind of ironic because they play the Packers. You know, here's the thing. They're four and two, which isn't bad. I think if you would have told.
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A Steeler fan to be in the.
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Season, you'll start four and two. You just, you just take that. But their next two games, now granted, at home against the packers and the Colts. So, I mean, I depends what happens this week with the packers, but I would imagine the packers are favored in that game. Then you get the Colts. I mean, that's just, that's a tough game. Then you got to go to the Chargers. There's a pretty big stretch coming up that they went two of three of these games and all of a sudden you're six and three, you're feeling pretty good about yourself. You go one and two in these games. I think we might view them, I would say, dramatically different. If we look up and they're five and four and then all of a sudden, if the Cincinnati Bengals have just beat the jets, like they're kind of lingering around and then this, you know, one of the conversations Was is Hendrickson's back. He got banged up last week. He was an inactive this week. Rap sheet called it a coach's decision. At first I thought, did he get benched? Then I started thinking, well, maybe they're assuming that they'll probably lose this game. They don't want him to get re injured because they could trade him on Monday or Tuesday to like Howie Roseman or the Lions or, you know, the Bills or whoever. Some team just trade them right now. Not necessarily punt on the season, but like, get this asset away for a lot. Now you can kind of, I don't know, double dip. You can go, well, we keep this guy, keep rolling him out, see if it's good. We also have leverage because we're kind of still in it. And I'm sure Howie and some of these other guys are still interested in his services. Maybe it's like, yeah, we. We probably would have taken, if it was getting ugly, a third. Now it might cost you like a second and a fourth. Well, we're not going to give you that. Okay? We'll just keep them because we're just going to compete for the playoffs. Unlike what the Browns do, that they never complete for the playoffs, they just treat their players like widgets. Like the embarrassing part of what the Browns did and what Tomlin was alluding to. No one has a problem with you benching Joe Flacco, right? Because you're like, well, they bench someone, it's about, like, what his value is to the two rookie quarterbacks that are now their starter and their backup, that have no clue what the NFL is about. How would they?
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They're rookies.
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And you have this guy who's played in the league for almost two decades, who's won a Super bowl, who is just universally respected. Hell, you just saw the respect level of one of the most successful guys of the Internet era and head coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mike Tomlin. What he just said, you can't do that because that's an embarrassment to the NFL. Now, we're lucky that it doesn't happen that often like that. That's something that happens in the NBA a lot. And it's been a big problem for Adam Silver. Roger doesn't really need to deal with that at all. But, like, if that happened more, we would have major problems on our hand. And I do have to thank the Browns because I don't know, if Jake Browning rolls out, we get the same end result of just Flacco slinging it around and just most of us that aren't Steeler fans having a huge smile on our face. I also think like why as that game was going on and even when Rogers hits that crazy play on the blown coverage to Friarmouth, I'm like, I, I've watched enough of the Steeler team. Like they're clearly not bad, but they're five and one. Like that's what a five and one football team looks like. I don't know. I don't think it is. And here's the other thing. Like Arthur Smith, who's rocking a really strong mustache, it's a strong look. He loves to run the ball. Like at his core. He became a really big deal as an offensive coordinator when he had Derrick Henry. You saw tonight, like I, I think like him and Kyle Shanahan would be long lost friends. You can just see the excitement he gets putting three tight ends on the field and just running outside toss place and just running crack plays to their weak edge defenders and just trying to get on the edges of the defense like he, he, that was one point tonight where to the right and to the left. I think he ran that same play four times in a row and it was pretty effective. Like he, he will run the ball. He's an old school coach that way For a quote unquote younger offensive guy, he will run the ball constantly. But their running back situation is Jalen Warren, who while he had a good night tonight, I mean a huge part of that is he's playing the Bengals. Like are you beating the better teams in the NFL relying on him to carry you? Probably not. Gainwell, who again is a good backup rotational guy. Like I think they need a better running back and I've been saying this for a while. It the Steelers move, I mean assuming their defense is not going to be that bad and they kind of, I'm sure Tomlin and that kind of group of coaches are going to be going nuts over the next couple days, especially Monday when they show back up because that's, there's, there is no ceiling for this team if that's other but offensively, like if they got a good running back, I saw Alvin Kamara was talking about like he doesn't want to get traded but knows like it's part of the business. Like just get more of a guy that you can depend on. I actually think their offense could be a little more complete and be tough. But man, that defensively like kind of saw the Spiderman meme of the two teams looking at each other. The difference is, is like they don't have Trey Hendrickson, Jesse Bates left a couple years ago. Like, who are these guys? Shemar Stewart had like three sacks and seven years in college. You know, I mean, you're rolling out T.J. watt, who for a long percentage of tonight is like, where is this guy? It's like he, you know, he started slow the season, then he really came on the last couple weeks. And I think sometimes older team, right? You know, short week, not quite as quick. Jamar Chase, what's he? Young. What does. He looks fantastic. You know, T. Higgins, young guy looks fantastic. And Flacco, hell, he got a couple games off because he got bench for Dylan Gabriel. As someone said, you got rid of Flacco to throw out Dylan Gabriel. And 50 mile an hour winds this pea shooter arm. Good job, Browns. So props to the Bengals. Nice win. And man, if you're a Steeler fan, 4 and 2 probably has never felt so shitty because anytime you lose on Thursday night, I think part of it, like Monday night, losing on Monday night sucks. But you also, like, you get to bounce back relatively quick.
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And.
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But you know, Monday night you lose, you get to just, you have to watch anyone else. You kind of get to shake it off and then a couple days later you're playing where. When you lose on Thursday night, like the Eagles did last year, you kind of get the weekend off, but you're watching a bunch of football. Your game, if you lost, especially as a favorite, they're kind of talking about you. And yeah, it's just, it's rough. So, man, props to Bengals. Couple other things. Kurt Signetti got $94 million today, fully guaranteed. Pretty sure T.J. watt at the beginning of the season got like close to a hundred million guaranteed. He got 90. I think it was like $93.4 million. So unless he does something unlawful, right. They, they can't fire him for just losing without owing him every penny wherever they are along the way. And we saw earlier this week when Brian Callahan was fired, reports came out that he was making $3 million a year. Jonathan Gannon, who had one of the lines of the year at, when he, when he brought up Michael Vick going to jail this year, or I mean earlier this week about like how he deals with being numb to player injuries and losing players, I would guess is making four or five million dollars. So some of these, these NFL jobs, they're going to come open, may pay 3, 4, 5 million dollars. Yet Kurt Signetti is at Indiana, not the Indianapolis Colts. Indiana. If you would have told me a couple years ago that the head coach in Indiana would make $11.6 million. I would have said, you're higher than I was a couple of nights ago when I had my gummy and I was floating in the sky. But that's college football now, and that's the money getting thrown around. We saw it a couple of years ago when Brian Kelly went to LSU and got $90 million. When Lincoln Riley went from Oklahoma to USC and got like 110, $120 million. The amount of money college pays is borderline insanity. Now, you know, Nick Saban was kind of ahead of his time. Obviously he made a lot of. But can you imagine, like 61 year old Nick Saban right now, in the prime of his career in college. What would he be worth? $300 million contract. But I saw earlier today people bring up different, like, who are the options for the Tennessee Titans? It's like Matt Nagy, Arthur Blank, or not Arthur Blank, Arthur Smith, he used to work for Arthur Blank in Atlanta. If I were those guys and I were other coordinators, like a guy like Joe Brady up with the Buffalo Bills or any young guy whose name is going to gain some traction, I would have my agent show legitimate interest in these college jobs. Not just because I'm trying to up the leverage, but because they pay a ton of money. And here's the thing, you go to the Titans, you go to the Cardinals. Some of these jobs that will just like ask Aaron Glenn, you go to the jets, you're going to lose. So if you're going to go to these jobs that basically have like a 90% chance of putting you on the unemployment line within a couple of years, you're just going to be paid to go away. So you might as well strike when the iron's hot. And if you're one of these guys and go like, I would be all over Penn State if I'm Arthur Smith or Matt Nagy or one of these guys, if I'm going to start getting interviews in the pros, I would do the same. If I'm Mike McCarthy, I would say, hey, I'm Mike McCarthy, I grew up in Pittsburgh. Penn State is interested in my services. So even if so, and so the Titans are interested in me too, I'm coaching you for $6 million a year because this organization, this program will pay me six years, $60 million. So I do wonder the leverage that's going to be used and it might get to the point where the numbers get so large, I do wonder if we see an NFL coach that typically would a way to go yeah, I'm just going to take this job. It is too much money to pass up. When I saw Signetti's numbers, my jaw hit the floor. I mean, he got an extension last year. It was like eight years, $8 million. It was like $64 million. He got a huge extension last year. And clearly what happened over the last, I don't know, three, four or five days is there were some phone calls made from that university in Pennsylvania and he'd be crazy to not utilize that a little to his advantage, even if he never had any interest in going, because it just got him $11.6 million a year to coach the Indiana Hoosiers. So I do wonder this offseason as Florida comes open, as Auburn comes open, as Florida State probably comes open, and some of these schools with enormous budgets that are going to be willing to pay a boatload of money. If Indiana can pay that, you better believe these other universities can. I think you'd be crazy if you weren't some of these NFL people to like, just throw your hat in the ring. You don't have to sign on the dotted line at the end of the day. But I would get involved. I would want my name involved when contracts were being discussed and signed at these levels because they're not in the NFL. Brian Callahan, $3 million, Jonathan Gannon, probably three or four million dollars. That's what Kurt Signetti makes a quarter. I mean, he wouldn't get out of bed for that. That's like what is probably defensive coordinator next year is going to make. So I think the influx of money in the SEC and some of the big ACC schools and obviously the Big Ten, it feels like Silicon Valley or something right now, because it's not like the direct deposits are not coming through. There's real money behind it. And I do wonder if that's going to kind of change the landscape of all these guys and especially these assistants who are going to be in the mix for these NFL jobs you watch. It would not shock me at all if one of those guys takes one of these big college openings over the next three months. And speaking of that, like, like lsu, like, if they lose this week to Vandy, wouldn't shock me at all if Brian Kelly wants to kind of restart his clock and goes, hey, Penn State, I'm kind of interested because you just want to keep those 70, 80, 90 million dollar contracts, you know, more of it to go like you want to restart. You're already year four, they can fire me. Year five, I want to go back to Year one. So keep an eye on these moves. The amount of money being thrown around this is like Jeff Bezos and his executives. You know, we scream all like the executives make too much money in America. Like, look at what some of these college coaches are making. It's crazy. A couple quick things on the NFL, we'll see. I mean, we got J.J. mcCarthy's banged up. Carson Wentz is banged up. Obviously they got some injury issues with the quarterback position. If Carson Wentz is the starting quarterback for Minnesota and the Philadelphia Eagles lose to the Minnesota Vikings and Carson Wentz, I don't see how someone is not fired Monday morning. I don't know who that person is going to be, but something will change that will. We've been talking about this for a while. Standards are super high. They just had a defensive lineman retire. They've been aggressive in Hendrickson. They lose this game, especially coming off the mini bye week, someone's head's going to roll. That's just the way the Eagles operate. And I don't think anything would be worse as this season's getting a little weird. And then Carson Wentz, who's not even fully healthy, beat you with the Minnesota Vikings and they're doing Skull. I like Minnesota in that game, but it almost feels too good to be true because it's almost hard to envision that that game's going to end, you know, like 17 to 13. And Carson Wentz is going to be being interviewed by the sideline reporter for Fox with a huge smile on his face.
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And.
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And the Eagles are just being a free for all. So that's, to me that that is the opportunity to be one of the crazier stories of the weekend. And Rams, Jags, which kind of grinds my gears. That's a, That's a really good football game. That's a game that for those of us on the west coast, it's. It's awesome for you guys that live on the east coast. One thing that sucks for you guys is your game start. They kick off at like 8:30. So if you're really sleepy and you want to go to bed early and it's a Sunday night, it's a Monday night or it's a Thursday night. You know, it's like 10:30 games going to the second half. So we got it good for the night games. You have a huge advantage over us for the morning games. You know, it's Sunday. Even if you are. I've become a pretty early riser Monday through even Saturday. Sunday is the one day I Kind of like to sleep in to like, I don't know, 7:30 ish. But if I do that, and I can do that in some of these games. But the Rams Jack is a game that I would really like to watch. And if it was on, on a normal slot like 10 o' clock in the morning or 1 o' clock in the morning, there's a decent chance depending on the other games that would get like the. I told this to Stuckey today when we were recording. That would get the audio in my house, like on the four box. That would probably be the audio game. And now they throw it over to international water. So I've been saying this for a while and I'm not going to pivot off this. They're going to sell a package for this time slot. Within, I would say the next five years, there will be a full slate of games rotating between Wembley, Germany, Ireland, wherever they play, Brazil, maybe there will be that 6:30am Pacific Standard Time, 9:30 for you guys on the east coast kickoff, and they will have a full slate just like Thursday night. So we will have a Thursday night game. We will have an international game that kicks off early in the morning. Then we always have our normal slate of 10ams, 1 o' clock and then the night game and then Monday night. And the other thing is, I saw 21.9 million people watched combine that double header the other night, which is like whenever I see record setting, I go, well, that's not going away. Are we going to get a package where we get double Monday night games 10 nights a week to kind of boost the number so they can sell it for more?
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And if you're Disney or espn, you'll.
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Gladly take two games. So like you're turning that down. You're like, we want in again on the Monday night package and we will pay double for an extra game. No. He's like, okay, free money. The game was going to be played anyway. You just would have put that game yesterday at 1 o'. Clock. So now you just give it to Monday Night Football and do the double header, which I'm not trying to be Debbie Downer. I enjoy a primetime game like tonight living by itself. But I'm not, I'm not blind here, not saying I can see the future, but we've kind of seen how the NFL operates. I remember when I first started working for the Eagles, it might have been the first year of the Thursday night games and we were like one of the. There were like three or four of them. That's how they start, they just kind of dabble, you know, like when your waiter comes over with the parmesan or the salt or pepper, just dabble a little bit and then all of a sudden they're just cranking it and then your whole, you look down your salad just full of pepper. And that's what's going to happen. It happened to Thursday night and boom, full package all season long. And now teams you went from just, you only have to do it once to like, hey, we're making so much money. If you're good, there's a decent chance you're going to have multiple Thursday night games and the Eagles in a couple of weeks play again on Thursday night games and obviously Monday and Sunday night forever. Like, the teams are used to playing in those primetime games. But the double header thing, you know, used to be just a huge disadvantage for two teams, right, that they had a short week. Now it's four. So I just, it's kind of inevitable where this is all going. Have a good. Have a good Thursday night. And props to Joe Flacco. If you're edible, takes two hours to kick in.
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That's not thc. That's placebo with sprinkles.
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Shows up to work.
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You know, the first time that I ever tried in the Cloud, I was just hanging out, watching a little football. I was like, I'll just chill for a minute and about 45 minutes later, I'm having the time of my life. So if you're looking for better sleep, they've got a gummy for that. Want a light social buzz without tipping into chaos.
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Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu.
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Every single episode 32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop.
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What? Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads.
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Yes. It's going to be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and a whole lot of guests. The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh wow. Angela and Jeff. Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.
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What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?
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Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.
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I forgot whose podcast we were doing.
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Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's, let's, let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast Casts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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What's up everybody? This is snacks from the Trap Nurse podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.
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Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill. Me and Tony bringing Backfire team on left for dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.
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Also in October we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movie and figure out why black people always gotta die first.
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The Umbral reliquary invites any and all foolish brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take heed, all sales are final.
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Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly with a full episode read and a commentary special.
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And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale, Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October, we're doing it.
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Hallo.
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Listen to the Traverse Podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.
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I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face when you think about emotion regulation. Like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it. If it's going to be beneficial to you because it's easy to say like, like you go blank yourself, right?
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It's easy.
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It's easy to just Drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, Screaming is easy. Complex problem solving. Meditating, you know, takes effort.
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Listen to the psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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The rich Russians falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad oligarch season two. Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Just that it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Okay, back at it again for the must the much anticipated weekly spot with my guy from Lexington, Kentucky, from Philly.
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Originally, but he's, he's been in the. The South. Is that the.
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The South?
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The North South.
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Depends on who you ask. Like Lexington is, I call it like a hybrid between the south and the Midwest. So yeah, I consider Lexington like a hybrid city. But if you go like more, more south in Kentucky, it's definitely the South.
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It's kind of like the West Virginia, the Midwest. Like is West Virginia the South?
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No, but it's parts.
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It's like its own thing.
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Yeah.
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You guys get to just be your own people.
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Yeah.
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And yeah. Okay. Another big week. Big bets on Campus Action Network podcast. You can find them on all things Action Network. I don't even know where to start.
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Obviously last week it's tough.
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You know, you take the double headers if they, they do that Sunday morning European game is pretty good. It can lead to tough sledding in the middle of the day here, Stucky.
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Yeah, I mean like that's, that's the thing I don't like about these because you have a couple, you have some teams on a buy and then they keep doing these doubleheaders on Monday and then a London game and then it leads. I mean Last week at 4:00 it was Bucks versus the Niners. Shell unit. Rip to your Niners. I mean they can't catch a break at the Titans, Raiders and the Packers, Bengals. Those are the three games this week at 1:00 clock or 10:00am if you're on the west coast, the early slate is Raiders, Chiefs, Dolphins, Browns, Pats, Titans, Panthers, Jets, Saints, Bears and Eagles. Vikings. That's a lot of games with a lot of bad teams playing in them. So I mean it's the NFL wall watch. Some of them will be closer than we expect. But yeah, it kind of leaves some of the these windows bare. And which is what I don't like about it. Like I get playing the Monday night two Monday night games early in the season or London Gamer on the season and when no one has buys too. But it gets a little excessive. But what are you going to do? There's still lines. We're still going to bet on these games.
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Yeah, we don't have a choice. Especially if you're going to watch those morning games. Okay. All lines presented by our friends and our partners at Hard Rock Bet. And let's just start with a couple of my Hammers of the week.
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I wait, by the way, before we get to them. I got to ask you on the west coast, do you always wake up.
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No.
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To watch the London game? Never. Does it depend on the matchup?
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Depends on the matchup. I mean if it's, if it's like your classic. Remember Belichick played like Gardner Minshew a couple years ago, like games like that. And it was just horrendous. You know, Minchu beat him. But it was the final score was like 13 to 8 or something. I'm not going to watch it because.
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I'm not going to talk about it.
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It's going to be lost kind of in just the world for what I do specifically. But like this week, you know, Rogers is involved. If this week the Rams and the Jags, I mean those are two playoff teams. Those two teams that can win the division.
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That's a game that I'd want to watch. I mean that would get my. If that was on the 10am slot.
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Even if I have the 10 games.
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On, that game's probably getting the sound.
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You know, of a four box. So it's. That one's tough. Yeah.
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This one, this one's worth waking up for.
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Yeah, this is this.
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Luckily, for the most part, they are more missed than hit.
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Yeah.
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You know, it's like, oh, Denver, I.
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Want to see the Broncos. Then you get up, you're like this game is this.
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That was, that was one of the worst sporting events I've ever Watched in my life.
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Yeah. So it's like, it's kind of irrelevant, but it's not because you're going to talk about Denver, but, like, how many people actually care, you know, ultimately about that game?
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If Denver goes on to win 12, 13 games, that moment is kind of lost. And you'd be like, well, playing in Europe, you're staying in Philly, and then you're leaving. It's kind of a wacky thing. But he also didn't complete more than three balls in the second half. It's kind of an issue for a team that could be a Super bowl contender. So I much prefer two shitty teams. I don't have to pay attention. You know, you've had a long day Saturday watching football.
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You get up, you really got to lock in. I try to get my blood flowing. I try to get a workout in the morning because I don't do that much on Saturday and Sunday. And that just, it throws me. I'm like, watching on my phone as.
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I'm driving around, I'm like, what is wrong with me? This is crazy.
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Watching Justin Fields just get sacked over and over.
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Negative 10 passing yards. Yeah, that was, that was ugly.
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But even this week, you know, obviously the injury.
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Let's just, before we get to the Hammers, I guess, let's just start there. You know, Puka's out. He's a main cog for them.
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I, I, I. A lot of people go, well, they didn't play that well against the Ravens.
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Like, the Ravens have a guy, you know, a $15 million coach. They have a prideful organization.
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They get to a point.
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I've seen this with the Niners before. It might happen this Sunday.
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When you're just down a bunch of.
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Guys, you just have like a kitchen sink effort. I mean, the Niners just kind of had it, actually against the Bucks.
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Like, you just, you're not going to get rolled even if you're playing a.
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Bunch of practice squads.
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So I didn't really hold that against the Rams.
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You know, it's a long travel. Like, it's, you won the game, you win by double digits. But this is kind of a different animal. The Rams, I would guess, like the Broncos last week, just take their stuff with them and go right over.
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Yeah, they're staying on the East Coast. Then McMahon has done it twice, covered both games, won both games. Cohen, obviously new head coach, but the Jags in general as a roster, very familiar with doing this. They're the team that plays overseas most frequently. So, yeah, the Nakua. I mean, that loss is big because especially it's a Jag. Jags play a lot of zone. Nakua is the zone beater. God. And I mean he just will find any hole in the zone. Stafford knows he can rely on him, you know. And they brought in Adams and Adams is like the man beater and he's going to stretch the defenses. So yeah, I mean Naku is obviously one of the best receivers in NFL. That loss is pretty big. We'll see if the Jags center goes. They're missing their tight end, Brennan Strange with Church in the tight end. Their center has been one of the best run blockers in the NFL. Didn't play last week and then just their communication and everything was way off against the Seahawks of a dominant defensive line. But the Rams have a good defensive line as well. If they can get protection, there's going to be some opportunities downfield against a Rams secondary that is definitely the weakness of their team. But the Nakua injury is certainly noteworthy. That line right now is sitting. Let's see. Did it get announced that he's definitely out?
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I mean, I just. I guess I just assumed. I'm not.
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I assume he's out to. I don't know if I got announced, but that's like. Once it does, the line could move. It's. Yeah, it's sitting at 3. Assuming he's out. I would lean with the Jags just taking the three points, but it. I think it's pretty close to. To right where that line is. I think it'll be a good competitive game.
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It's also a pretty big week because you got, you know, the Niners MASH unit playing the Falcons. That's. That's going to be tough. Right? You got Seattle Monday night against Houston. You know, I mean, there's a decent chance. I mean all three of these teams could lose. I mean, the, the Arizona Cardinals. You saw that comment by Jonathan Gannon about Michael Vic going to jail. They are cracking at the seams. They are.
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They are.
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It is about to implode.
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Implode. I was tempted to have the packers as my hammer if they were playing better and just kind of end this little experiment in Arizona. But they're just not playing quite well enough to just come on the road and just dominate. But I can foresee that thing just like, wait, the packers are up 27 and nothing at halftime.
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But I think the Niners are in trouble Sunday night.
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You know, Seattle's just a tough game. Houston's defensive line is just really good. So if one. If Seattle or the Rams win this week, I'm pretty confident they'll be in first place. It's just these. These London games can be weird.
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I don't know.
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I don't have a great feel for this game.
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I.
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The Jags, I just can't bet on them with a straight face. But this Ram spot, tough spot, weird week. This is your classic. Like, this is why you pay McVeigh a lot of money. This. You know, you're in a hotel for a long time, right? Really? Because you come out to Philly or who they play. Baltimore, they probably came out Friday. So they've just been gone away from their family and their beds for a long time. And football is not baseball or basketball. Like, you don't really spend that much time on the road. Right. That's why these football players, they might have side girlfriends, but they don't. Not like those other athletes, because they're really just your home base the overwhelming majority of your season.
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C
Yep. Yeah, I don't think. I mean, three is, like, close to right? Just without Nakua against his own heavy D. Like, if I had to take it, I would take just the points in my back pocket. But, yeah, I don't think there's. I don't think there's a ton to do there.
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Okay, I'm gonna go.
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I'm gonna go three dogs for my hammer. I'm gonna go the Raiders plus 11 and a half. I'm gonna go the Vikings. That line's actually come down a little bit. Minnesota plus one and a half and the Saints plus four and a half. We can start Saints at Chicago, obviously, again. That Monday night turnover, we just did that with the Jags. We love Seattle now. I. Seattle's better team than the Saints, but we've been hammering this the whole time. He's not bad. Spencer Rattler's pretty solid. Their office defense, not great. But Chicago isn't Exactly, you know, the 07 pass on offense. And coming off this big win, this emotional win, which they got a little lucky, but, hell, they. They. They deserved a little luck. They got screwed last week at times or last year at times. Listen, Caleb, I'm not as down on him and maybe as Troy Aikman, but I'm not. I'm not exactly anointing him some, like, top 15 quarterback right now. He makes some awesome plays, but I like the Saints a lot in this spot.
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Yeah, I mean, Caleb, he's getting better. He's not taking as many sacks. That's one of the biggest. That's one of the Things he's improved the most upon his pressure to sack ratios and cut in half. I think that's the influence of Ben Johnson. So like all the pressures, like he's literally cut, the amount of times he takes sacks in half when he's pressured, that's big. But he's still not accurate enough that there's, you know, last week I think was about Ben Johnson. He really got the run game going. Just a beautifully schemed game. But you're right, they did get a bunch of bounces that went their way. If Jayden Daniels doesn't drop that handoff, they don't win that game. And you know, now it's a tough spot. Short week coming home. The Saints are frisky. Like the Saints are in pretty much every game. They're competitive. Spencer Rattler's playing like at a league average rate, which I wouldn't have believed if you told me that after last year where he was one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. The offense is much better schemed. So yeah, I think taking the points there is the right move. I also agree with you on the Vikings. The Vikings, I mean, look, the Eagles to me are on Fade. Fade alert until further notice. This just looks like a couple of years ago with under Brian Johnson and over their last three coordinators before Petullo. Steichen obviously very good. Brian Johnson disastrous. And then Kellen Moore who's now at the Saints, who was very good. If you look at their numbers versus zone and blitz, Petullo's numbers are zone and blitz this year are exponentially worse than even Brian Johnson. So you had your numbers like with Steichen were here and Kellen Moore were here. And then like Brian Johnson's here with Patua. They are like I can't even show you how low they are.
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Well, why do you think that is?
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I.
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It's just there's. It's not a well schemed offense. No one's on the same page, but they just. Nothing is working. Additionally, the offensive line has taken a huge step back. There's a bunch of injuries, they're not healthy and as a result they can't get the run game going. And I mean, Saquon Barkley is averaging 2.6 yards per carry in the second half of games. Last year was six and a half. He's being contacted. Crazy. He's being contacted by the scrimmage 36% of the time last year, which is second highest in the league. Last year it was 24%. So they can't get him going and then and. And Jalen hurts has never been great against zone and he's always been worse against the blitz. And now the offensive line has created, the run game has created and it's just like when you look at the play design, everything is bad. Like unless it's like hey, straight man. And AJ Brown goes beats his man on like a little comeback route or something. There's a busted coverage like Hertz isn't seeing the field and I don't think it's well schemed. He's been the worst quarterback in the league against Cover 2. Well, the Vikings played more Cover 2 than any defense in the league. He's been one of the worst against zone. He's still killing man. And he's been one of the worst against blitz. Well, most blitz heavy coordinator in the league, Brian Flores. The team running the least amount of men besides the Cowboys, the Vikings one of the most zone heavy teams. So this is a nightmare matchup. They should also get Blake Cashman back, maybe Van Ginkel, but Cashman will help with their run defense. And then on the other side of the ball, the Eagles defense is not the same caliber unit as it was last year. They lost a lot of talent. The secondary is not the same. The edge, the pressure isn't the same. I mean they're below league average in pressure. They're 19th in EPA per play. 19th and success rate one of the the two. Like I guess there's three. Cooper de Jean, Jalen Carter and then Quinya Mitchell on the outside. Well, Quinn, yeah, Mitchell is banged up. I don't, I don't think he's going to go, which is massive because now you're, you're two corners on the outside against Addison and Justin Jefferson are very, very questionable. Jalen Carter is not healthy and you need him because your depth isn't great in the defensive line. You're not getting a ton of pressure off the edge. So even with Carson Wentz, you know, off a buy with this great staff and one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. I like the Vikings to get it done. I can't. It's just a nightmare matchup for the Eagles. I can't quite get that. And by the way, there will be a time I say this every week and it never happens. So one time I guess I have to keep saying it and I'll look smart when it finally does. There will be a game when the NFL who says they're going to crack down on the tush push false starts when that happens and it costs the Eagles four points. Like it's happened twice inside the 10 when they clearly went outside false started. You could see it and everyone could see it. Like they do it all the time. But the most obvious ones, that they didn't call for some reason and then they get the first down and then you know, it's first and goal inside the 10 and they get a touchdown. If that is a false start, then you're probably kicking a field goal that's like four points, which could be huge. This could be a lower scoring game, so that'll happen eventually. Or it also could just, you know, if they do it at midfield, it could lead to a punt instead of, you know, what ends up being a scoring drive. Raiders, I don't blame you for taking the points there.
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I don't have much logic behind this.
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Not like I like the Raiders and don't think the Chiefs are playing well. I just. That just seems like a pretty. Seems like a lot early in the season.
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C
Yeah, I mean the Chiefs offense is back, I will say that. And they get Rice back this week. I mean like Mahomes is numbers, his average air yards downfield are like the highest since 2018. His passer rating is the highest since 2022. And now they're getting one of their best weapons back. But the speed on the outside, the improvement along the offensive line, that offense is now dynamic.
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A
Well, don't you think Kelsey looks a little better too?
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F
Looks a little more refreshed. I think the last couple weeks.
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C
I don't know. He has. He has looked a little better. I think also part of that is like all of the speed that they have. Like with the emergence of Thornton getting worthy back, it's. He has more space to operate right. Like, and this offense is throwing the ball down the field.
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Before Hollywood's playing well.
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Yeah, but before everything was. And then run game is a little bit better. They're running it more under center, which has helped. But before their entire offense was in a phone booth. And like Kelsey is not. He doesn't have the same speed or like so there was just. Everything was clogged up. So now he has a little bit more space to find holes and zones and operate the case for the Raiders. I mean, the Raiders right now are a mess. I mean their offense is broken. Part of that is no Brock Bowers. I don't understand just the entire. They run it too often on first downs and their offensive line is completely broken and they're without one of the best left tackles the NFL. And Colton Miller. So without Miller and Bowers and Geno Smith is just looked horrendous. So like, are they going to be able to move the ball? I don't know. The Chiefs run defense hasn't been great, so you might be able to actually run it a little bit here. Play keep away on defense. They're just, they're just going to sell out to stop the explosive play. So they're going to play a ton of zone. That is basically the M.O. what Alex Dwight was trying to do because they don't have corners, they don't break corners on the outside. So the route to a cover here is run the ball a little bit, control the clock, take away the Chiefs exposed to play and then wait for Crosby. He's going to have some plus matchups against the Chiefs tackles to make a play or two. And then once the Chiefs get a lead in these games, they just sit on it. So there'll be a room. There could be an opportunity for a back door. And Mahomes has not been. The Chiefs are historically been horrendous as a favorite of more than a touchdown. He usually wins these games. He's 36 and two straight up, which is the best win percentage of all time as a favorite of seven or more. But just as a little weird note, the two losses did come against the Raiders, one of them on Christmas Day a couple years ago. So that's the one I probably can't. The Raiders are just a mess right now. I can't get there. But I don't blame you for taking the points. But I do like the Saints and I really like the Vikings.
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Jack Jones picked them off pick six. I think I remember. Yeah, I was pretty hungover that day. I had a long Christmas Eve night. Remember? Laying in bed watching that game.
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C
Sounds good. All right.
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Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new sneak snafu. Every single episode.
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32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop.
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What?
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C
Yeah. Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads.
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Yes. It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and.
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A whole lot of guests.
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The great Paul Scheer made me feel good.
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I'm like, oh, wow.
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Angela and Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.
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What was what was that like for you to soft launch into the show?
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Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.
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C
I forgot whose podcast we were doing Nick Kroll.
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I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it. If it's going to be beneficial to you because it's easy to just say like, like go blank yourself, right?
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It's easy.
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So a couple other games we touched on it briefly.
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I mean the packers after the first couple weeks have definitely just looked a little off.
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But the Cardinals, that, I just feel.
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Like they're really cracking. I mean they actually had a chance, they played pretty well in that game. Jacoby was slinging around against the Colts. And then the dust settles and they lose. And then you just kind of feel it like does this guy think he's going to get fired? I mean it's Jonathan Gannon if they lose. All of a sudden we look up and they're three and eight. Like is he getting fired before the season ends? Is that the stress that he's wearing when he has that comment? I kind of think it's, it's possible. You never know. I mean the Cardinals actually are much closer to like the jets or the Dolphins. They just don't have as much money just in terms of dysfunction. Don't want like the Bruce Arians couple years fool you. They're a fucking joke franchise.
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C
Yeah.
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F
And listen, I. You've talked about Jonathan Gannon. I've always heard really, really good things. I think overall he's done a pretty good job. I mean his quarterback's tiny, can't see and it's pretty erratic player. You know, they don't have that much time. I, I've thought, I've watched him play a lot of NFC west games and always been pretty impressed. I don't think he's bad. You know, some, we've seen some coaches.
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Especially you know, assistant coaches, head coaches.
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That are petula completely oversight. Like I don't necessarily think Jonathan Gantt's completely over his head. I mean, but that moment where demarcado drops the ball, he slaps him on the shoulder pad, which, you know, 15 years ago no one was saying, all of a sudden he gets a hundred thousand dollar fine, they lose the next week. And now do we think Kyler's out again this week. Probably.
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C
I don't know. I mean that's. Yeah, they're a tough team to crack. I mean like I was hired.
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He's not.
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Because Jacoby's probably not a great matchup like Flacco against the packers given they can rush the passer and he can't move.
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C
Yeah. I mean, look, the Cardinals, they start off 2, 0. I mean on the season and then they easily could have beat the 49ers. There was a drop, a wide open drop. They lost by one then, so they could have easily been three and out. Then they lost to the Seahawks by three on the last second field goal and because of a kickoff, they messed up the kickoff after they came back to tie. Now granted they were down two touches, but they were a player two away from being four. No. And then against the Titans they should have been up 28,6.
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Yeah.
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And then they dropped the ball and.
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They have not played bad this season.
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C
No, like, so they easily could have been like 5, 0. And then they played the Colts and then they had so many injuries, like they don't have any running game anymore because all their running backs are hurt. And I do think it's a really well schemed defense. They do some of the most exotic things with their three safety looks in the league, but they've also had injuries at corner. So I still think Gannon is a sharp guy. But yeah, it does feel like it's, it's teetering right now. I don't know if Murray's going to play. He was limited. Now the thing is like if he does play and they have like a plate in his foot like and if he can't move, I mean that's, you don't want Mary like Murray in the pocket. Now that's not going to work against the packers defense and the pressure they can generate. And especially since the Cardinals just don't have a run game now. And I think they really do miss like Clayton Adams who's now with the Cowboys, their offensive coordinator. And last year he was with Arizona and their running game now I know they have injuries, was much more dynamic and better. But like last week, the offense did look also Marvin Harrison might be out as well. So like I, it's, it's, it's tough to back the Cardinals here with, with all the injury situations. Now you could say like, hey, look, the offense looked much better last week against the Colts, but I think that had a lot to do with the Colts secondary injuries. I mean Ward tore Ward's arguably in the best corner in the league this year. If you look at some, like yards for yards per route allowed. He's been awesome. And he got a concussion before the game. They were already down. Kenny Moore, they were already down.
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Not before. Like, not in pregame warmups. In pre pregame warmups, the Colts lost two players. Now, granted, one's their starting corner. The others are back.
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That's unhurt.
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That's unprecedented territory.
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They lost him and a concussion. Guy broke his face and got a concussion. Two separate injuries where guys are warming up in shorts and T shirts before.
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You even put on your pads and your helmet. That's insane.
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Yeah. I can't say I've ever seen that. But they were already down. I mean, two of the best corners in the league this year have been Kenny Moore and Travers Board, and they're already down a couple depth pieces. They were playing guys. I mean, Makai Blackman, they didn't even play last year. Chris Lammons I think is the nickel now. Like, they missed Mike Hilton. They lost their back. So their secondary was in shambles. And you don't have your number one. You thought you were going to have, you know, a couple hours before the game started. Which, which is one of the reasons why I like the Chargers this weekend. I know the Colts have been great, but I mean, if. If you look at it, the Colts this year, various.
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Still in the protocol.
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Yeah. And that's not his first concussion.
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No. 49ers.
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Yeah. He didn't practice today. I don't think that he's going to play. Kenny Moore is practicing, but he hasn't practiced in weeks. And it's an Achilles or 5 and 1, so I think his status is highly endowed. Josh Downs also concussion, which. And he's not practicing today. So like, I mean, the Colts have been very good.
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Probably back.
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Right.
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C
What's that?
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Khalil Mack might be. Is he back this week?
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He could get Perryman back too, which helps with the run defense. I don't know on Joe all or the Chargers offensive line. That's my. That's my biggest concern with the Chargers. Their offensive line is just horrendous by. The Colts aren't on a team that gets elite, elite pressure. And if their secondary is what it looked like last week, that their Herbert's going to pick them apart way more than percept could. And I think that is the biggest difference in this game. And like, I think the Colts are a good team and Daniel Jones has played well. But I've looked into. I went back and watched some of the Daniel Jones games this year. He's playing well but he's not seeing. He's gotten away with a lot of throws. He's not really seeing safeties. His turnover worthy play rate is very high. It's like I think two and a half times that of Herbert's who's one of the best in that department. But I think that against Minters defense he's good. He's going to make some mistakes. Additionally this is really in the weeds. The Charters have the most accurate kicker in NFL history and Cameron Dicker the Colts have the money Badger who's like an 80% career so maybe there's a kick or two but I like the Colts have beaten here's what the Colts have beaten this year to Knicks thanks to a leaping penalty Cam Ward, Geno Smith and Brissette like those are their five wins so they've definitely been fortunate with the schedule and like a lot of teams have had a ton of injuries. So yeah I think this is a spot for the chart and a lot of this has to do with just the secondary injuries for the Colts and the fact that they don't generate just like they're not like a a Giants defensive line which just completely crippled the Chargers offense and the Charters offensive line could be a little bit healthier. So I like, I like the Chargers this week when and that's related to what the Cardinals did last week because the Colts secondary was just completely dysfunctional.
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I haven't really paid attention to it but I was just looking at the stats like remember it was a big deal when Chris Ballard got lot two Latu the kid from UCLA because he was like how do we get this guy at the end of the was like 17 or 18. He was the first defensive player. He has one sack this season.
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Yeah he was hurt. He's.
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He is getting some decent missed a game.
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C
Yeah he's getting some decent pressure but it's not been like extraordinary by any stretch. So I think if the Colts like the Colts are I don't like Daniel Jones still has a ceiling against a well schemed offense. The offensive lines are really good. Jonathan Taylor's really good. They have good weapons and the defense is definitely improved because it's not just Gus Bradley running base cover three that everyone knows then they had no D backs so now I mean their safeties are playing well. They went out and actually Bauer went out and actually finally the first time I don't know he should be in a prison somewhere for keeping Gus Bradley as long as he did. But he also, he never would go out and get defensive backs. He was always like, let's just count our draft picks and the draft picks he would. They never could draft any defensive backs. They went out and they got Ward, they went out and got Cam by them and their safeties are playing well. Ward is playing at an elite level.
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Ward's a good play. I mean Ward's a physical tackling, can cover, can make plays on the ball. He's a high end corner.
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And they had like no corners in recent years, like the worst corners in the league. So their defense has a higher upside now. So they're a good team. But I think if they wanted to go to like the next level, not sure if Daniel Jones can get them there, but if they just had like one more elite edge rusher then when they're healthy, they could be even more dangerous. But yeah, I, I think the Chargers get it done at home.
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Cleveland, Miami, I defended to a little bit. Like obviously he shouldn't have said it, but at the same time, like it's such a reflection of. Isn't his coach's job to make sure everyone's like dialed in and it's clearly Mike's terrible at that. He's like the opposite of like the Tomlins and the Harbaughs.
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You know, you walk all over that guy.
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Even Fangio was like, I quit, I'm out. So Tua's attempting to do it even if guys clearly don't respect him either. I mean Cleveland, it's pretty rare that you see like coach on gm, coach on coach, just crime before a game or in a situation especially, they weren't even playing. And I think Mike Tomlin, I don't know where your theory on this, but.
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I think he's kind of sticking up.
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For Stefanski, who kind of had some comments last week when they traded him. Like, yeah, I didn't quite see this coming. Like Andrew Barry's just up there kind of operating like Theo or Billy Beane. Like I'll just get a six round pick for the starting. It's like you got two young quarterbacks. They need someone to like kind of bounce ideas and see how to operate. Like it's, that's what good teams would value. But they're like, well we don't give a fuck, Widget. See out of here.
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And they, I watched them last week.
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I didn't realize how bad Cleveland's line was. And I get the Steelers defensive line was humming, but they were just like dreidels the whole Game and Dylan Gate, I mean, it was. You could have put Deshaun Watson this prime back there. He would have been under siege. But this Dolphins team who actually showed a little heart because once Tua threw that pick in the middle of the game, then they score.
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It's like 20, I think 3.
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13.
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Yeah. So it was like. It kind of felt like they were going to just. They're going to end up losing this game. 30 to 13. And they came storming back.
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It's weird.
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Like, everyone's on them.
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They're showing way more life than like the jets or whatever. Now, you could argue two is a way better player than field. So their offense going to look better. I don't know. I mean, Cleveland's defense obviously is pretty good, but I'd have a hard time taking Cleveland. I just. I couldn't gamble this game. I know you. You got a little action on it, but you're.
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I did play the Browns. Now, it's probably correlated to the under. The Browns haven't scored more than 17 points, I think, in 11 games. So they definitely have a ceiling on their offense, which is like 17 to 20 points. But if you look at this, number one, the Browns defense at home over the last three years is a different animal. No one can score in them when they play in Cleveland. Abby, you go back to the packers offense, you go back to the Bengals with the healthy burrow, the Ravens multiple times over the past couple years. Any offense they play in Cleveland, they dominate. And now you're going up against one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL with one of the best defensive lines. And there's no Tyree kill. So the explosion isn't there for the Miami offense. And that's basically how you have to beat this Cleveland defense. It's aggressive. You have to hit explosive passing plays. That's the one blemish on their statistical profile. I think they're like 21st and explosive passing allowed. But the Dolphins, even with Hill for part of the year, are 24th and they just don't have that explosion anymore. And what this game comes down to, to me and then like, what does Miami do? Well, I mean, like, I don't know. Their offensive line is one of the worst in the NFL. Well, they were supposed to have an explosive passing attack, but there's. There's no Tyree kill. So it's like a chain and waddle are pretty good. Waller's good in the red zone. It's like there's some decent pieces on the offense, but the defense, there's nothing there at all. I mean they're blitzing at a top five rate because they know they can't cover but they're getting pressure at a bottom five or eight. They have one of the. They have the worst I think corner group in the NFL. Nothing is redeeming about this team and but I think that it just. This comes down to the Browns defensive line dominating this game. But there also should be weather here and I think that's a key factor. There's going to be wind and rain and if that's the case, this game is just going to come down to who can run the ball more. And like the Dolphins have a bottom two run defense in the league. I mean we saw what. I mean the Chargers backups backup offensive line was running all over them. We saw the Panthers Rico Dowdle ran for. He's still running against them. So I think the Browns can run the ball here against a much worse run. The Browns are a top three run defense so that's just going to lead to more third. Third known passing situations for TUA where this defensive line can tee off. And the Browns I think can put enough drives together on the ground with Judkins who looked pretty good. And yeah they lost their tackles last week but it looks like Robinson will be good to go. They're gonna have to probably put Lucas at right tackle. But yeah, I just think this comes down to Brown's defense at home against a horrendous offensive line. No Tyree kill weather game, potential high winds, precipitation. Like it's going to be a lot of running. One defense cannot stop the run, the other defense is elite at it. I think that's the difference. I think the Browns get it done home. It's ugly like laying points with Dylan Gabriel who can like barely see over his linemen. But yeah, I like the Browns at home under a field goal.
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I think Walt.
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I think Waller's had one of the craziest careers in NFL history. Insane round pick.
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The drug issues.
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Gruden sees him doing Monday Night Football in warm ups or something gets him for nothing.
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It was pretty clear when he kind of popped.
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You're like holy shit, this guy is.
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A freak talent becomes a Pro Bowler, gets paid, gets traded to the Giants for a third round pick. Kind of gets hurt.
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Then quits, starts a rap career.
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Starts a rap career and then just comes back and honestly has made a couple plays.
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I mean he's got multiple touchdowns this year. Yeah, just shows back up in his.
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Mid-30S and just scoring touchdowns left and.
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Right for A shitty team.
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Insane.
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It's crazy. The Sunday night game.
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I.
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Listen, at this point in time, I. I don't know how you overcome Fred Warner's ankle pointing the other way.
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It's.
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It's pretty devastating. And Zach Robinson, maybe he doesn't quite have his sights set on Oklahoma State. Maybe he's got his sights set on trying to become a coach in the NFL, a head coach, and he's just giving the ball to Bijan. That's because that's what I do. And I just don't know how the 49ers, I mean, that Baker plays a good example if Fred's in the game. Like, you think Baker's making it the first down? Probably not.
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Yeah.
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And there are countless other plays that he's just. He's a dominant player. You can't remove Bosa and Fred Warner. I don't care how good Robert Saul is, you know, motivating guys, it's just a. The drop off is. Is gigantic. So I, I think the 49ers. Did you see the clip of Kyle reading the injury report? It took him like 35 seconds and he took like seven breasts.
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Yeah, it's. It's pretty crazy that they. They just can't catch a break. I mean, the team was built on like, okay, you got. You still have a lot of talented, like, first of all, still a lot of offensive injuries. We have Kyle and Shanahan running the offense with a lot of talented weapons. At least they're gonna get Kittle back this week. At least it looks like, I think.
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But it's like, I don't know.
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Hamstring injuries.
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Yeah.
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You never know. You got to be careful.
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But all their weapons have been hurt.
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The quarterback looked incredible. Boom. He hurts his knee. He's out again.
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Yep. So insane. But then like the entire defense, in order to get up to like a reasonable level, it was like Salah bringing Salah, which I think was a great move. But it's a stars and scrubs unit because you had a pay purdy and you had to pay some of your other players. They had a mass exodus in the off season of talent. You know, guys like strawberries for that.
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We just talked about, look at who Funga for. The Broncos makes plays every game.
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Yep. So they were going to need some rookies to step up, and then they were going to need their stars to play like stars. And they've lost both. I mean, Bosa is losing. Bose is not just losing the playmaking of Bosa. It's the trickle down effect of all the other guys who now get more attention and don't benefit from the attention Bosa gets, their pressure rate without Bosa on the field has cratered poverty levels. So they're not getting any pressure. And then you have Fred Warner, the best linebacker in the NFL, cleaning up everything, making plays, and now he's done like so on paper. Now this is a bottom tier defense.
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F
So this is a must win for Atlanta if you're going to be taken seriously because you have a performance like.
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You did on Monday night.
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I was like, damn, their defense is flying around. They're getting pressure. We know Raheem's good, you know, on that side of the ball. They're really kind of coming together. They invested. Whether we, you know, agree with the trade for the kid from Tennessee or not, I still think it's pretty crazy. Like if, listen, if the defense is going to get pressure and you give the ball to Bijan Robinson, you have a chance and you can protect Panics. Like Panics was kind of just sitting back there and slinging it around. It's not like Hills are that much different. The 49ers, are they personnel wise?
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Yeah. The key injury to watch there is Jake Matthews or left tackle. He is the longest active streak in the NFL of starts. 88, 80 something, maybe, I'm going to guess because they're already down there, right tackle on McGarry and. But they kind of scheme to make up for that. They're back up. So now they could be down to two backup tackles. And I know the 49ers defense is in shambles, but that will be bad. I mean, in the second half you had this. Mike Terrell came in at left tackle against the Bills and the Falcons offense did not look the same and he was bad. So that's something that's worth watching. It's also not a great spot. Like you're traveling across the country after a big win on Monday Night Football against the Bills. You know, playing a Niners team off of a loss, although they're traveling too, so it's not a great situational spot for Atlanta. But yeah, it's, I actually don't mind like the over there. It's, it's hard to know the injury report for the Niners, but 49ers could.
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Fall apart here just because they don't have the bodies the next couple of weeks. They play Houston in a week. It can get ugly.
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C
Yeah, they're, it's, they're a tough team to, to handicap right now with all the injuries, especially midweek but if I had a bet it right now, I would actually look at the over like it's Shanahan will find ways to get points. There's a chance they're a little bit healthier with their skill positions this week. And then that San Francisco defense right now is, it's in, it's in rough shape and that Atlanta offense can move the ball. My only fear is like both teams want to run the ball and it's not going to be a fast paced game. So like if there's just a bunch of red zone stops, it's going to be hard to get over that number. But yeah, it's a shame and effort of the Niners because like the potential is there. Like the offense, you know, the offense can be good with Shannon and then you just needed Salah with Warner and Bosa and then some of the rookies to emerge and they started to show some promise. But now without Warner of Bosa, it's like as you said, I don't know how you overcome that.
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B
Hey, it's Ed Helms. And welcome back to snafu, my podcast about history's greatest screw ups. On our new season, we're bringing you a new snafu every single episode.
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32 lost nuclear weapons. You're like, wait, stop.
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C
What?
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Yeah.
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Ernie Shackleton sounds like a solid 70s basketball player who still wore knee pads.
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Yes. It's gonna be a whole lot of history, a whole lot of funny, and.
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C
A whole lot of guests.
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The great Paul Scheer made me feel good. I'm like, oh, wow, Angela. And you, Jenna, I am so psyched you're here.
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A
What was that like for you to soft launch into the show?
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B
Sorry, Jenna, I'll be asking the questions today.
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C
I forgot whose podcast we were doing.
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B
Nick Kroll. I hope this story is good enough to get you to toss that sandwich. So let's, let's, let's see how it goes. Listen to season four of SNAFU with Ed Helms on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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D
What's up everybody? This is snacks from the Trap Nerds podcast and we're bringing you the horror every week all October long.
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Kicking off this month, I'll be bringing you all my greatest fear inducing horror games from Resident Evil to Solid Hill. Me and Tony bringing Backfire team on left for dead 2 and we just gonna be going over some of the greats.
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D
Also in October, we'll be talking about our favorite horror in a Halloween movie and figure out why Black people always gotta die first.
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The umbral reliquary invites any and all foolish brave enough to peruse its many curiosities. But take heed. All sales are final.
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Weekly horror side quests written and narrated by yours truly, with a full episode read and a commentary special.
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D
And we will cap it off with Horror Movie Battle Royale. Jason versus Freddy, Michael Myers versus the Alien Thing with the Little Tongue Monster. October. We're doing it Halloween style. Listen to the Trap Nurse podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology Podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about exploring human potential.
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I was going to schools to try to teach kids these skills and I get eye rolling from teachers or I get students who would be like, it's easier to punch someone in the face. When you think about emotion regulation, like you're not going choose an adaptive strategy which is more effortful to use unless you think there's a good outcome as a result of it, if it's going to be beneficial to you. Because it's easy to say like, like you go blank yourself, right?
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It's easy.
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It's easy to just drink the extra beer. It's easy to ignore, to suppress seeing a colleague who's bothering you and just like walk the other way. Avoidance is easier. Ignoring is easier. Denial is easier. Drinking is easier. Yelling, screaming is easy. Complex problem solving, meditating, you know, takes effort.
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C
Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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G
The Rich Russians falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad Oligarch Season 2 Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many people, politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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The Monday night doubleheader Tampa at Detroit.
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F
Obviously they got a million injuries as well. So I mean the Lions aren't the healthiest team. I mean Every team in the league and it's. It is re you follow this stuff closely. Is this as bad as you ever remember? The amount of teams with the amount of injuries. It's pretty crazy.
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Yeah, the clusters are crazy. Like this guy that game. I don't know what the bat like because the Tampa. Tampa's been extremely fortunate this year. Baker Mayfield's playing it like a God level and even with that like they've won four games at the last second.
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If they had average quarterback play what would they be like 2 and 4 right now?
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I could have one win probably. So yeah, I mean but like their offensive line is a bunch of injuries there. It looks like they're going to be without Irving. Bucky Irving, Chris Godwin Buka, Mike Evans may or may not go but then Mayfield's playing at such a high level and he's going up against the lion Scenes can be around all their corners, branches suspended. But the. The Bucks defense isn't any good so. And the Lions are at home like their offense should. Is Taylor Decker going to play? That's key. Their. Their tackle but you know Bulls is going to send the blitz. I had no idea on that game. I couldn't tell you. Seattle look, I mean Houston is coming off. I still don't believe in the Houston offense. Like yeah they exploded late against the Titans, but it's the Titans and then they played the Ravens practice squad defense. If Seattle gets some of their defensive backs and we're talking about injuries again but they were without three starting defensive backs the past couple of weeks. Their defensive line should wreck havoc on the Texans offensive line and just crater that offense. Now the Houston off defense is really, really good but the Seattle offense is playing at an elite level. So like I just don't know how Houston can keep up especially if Seattle is healthier in the defensive backfield. I think just like if you look at what's going to happen in that game, it's Seattle's defensive line just overwhelms Houston and causes too many negative plays. So I would look at Seattle at home in that one place going to.
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Be so loud bro. 7:00 clock at night on Monday night that place is going to be. I mean if the Houston offense can look good in that environment, I. I would be floored.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The Houston offensive line's probably gonna. There's gonna be false start, a bunch of false starts and it's going to.
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Be a throwback in like peak Pete.
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Carol days with Lob. I think the loudness because they got a Lot of positive momentum. They're a fun team. Yeah, we're pretty good.
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Yeah. And Darnold's playing as well as. As Baker.
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I mean, lose also. And it'd be like we, we take this over. Like, yeah, we're gonna. This division's coming through us, which I got five to one. I tried to tell everyone that. Those odds were crazy.
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C
You were right.
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F
We're like, people were like overreacting to those last couple games. It's like, yeah, he played bad, but over the court, like, he's like, that was his low moment. And I, I.
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C
And look at Geno Smith now. Yeah, I mean, Seattle was right.
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F
Totally. They nailed that one.
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Okay, a couple quick college games before.
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We get out of here. I was in the car this morning and I heard Coward going. Because you, you know, the USC people are like, we want out of this game.
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This is B.S.
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We'Re in the Big Ten.
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We're doing you a favor.
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Like, I, I hear that. But it's also like this college sports.
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This isn't the NFL. Like you play Notre Dame every year.
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But I also get like, Notre Dame.
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Gets to pick and choose how they build. If you're in the Big Ten, that rotation, like, all of a sudden you get years where you're playing Oregon, Michigan and Ohio State and you also got to play Notre Dame every year. But that's part of. That's your rival. So it's like you're just gonna get rid of it. But I think the argument is, well, Texan, Texas A and M. Some of these rivalries stopped playing as they went to different conferences. So I see both sides. I like this game just like most people do. But I. You were right. I. I hadn't watched USC as closely this season as I did up until that game. The wide receiver number six is. I don't know Amin, Ross St. Brown, like the Ohio State slot guys, he's a stud. I mean, he's, he's, he's the real deal. So. Yeah.
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Remember the name?
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F
Yeah. LA kid that was supposed to go with Lincoln to Oklahoma and then switch when he came there. So he was.
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You know, Lincoln had in Oklahoma even.
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Before he got there with Bob Stoops had always sneaky. Had a little Southern California. I remember was it Kenny Stills is a San Diego guy. So they would pluck guys over there. So not shocking that Lincoln was all over him. But I was impressed. And listen, you've been all over Michigan. Not as good as really the last couple years. I mean, is she run more good at his job That's a big picture question mark. I think we got to ask relative to the standard that they want to uphold, like, yeah, you're gonna. You're gonna compete with Ohio State and Oregon with this guy. Coach, I don't know.
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I agree.
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F
It does feel like a night. Maybe I'm overreacting to that performance against Michigan because it could have easily been 45, 13. I mean, they. They blew a couple red zone stops. Obviously on the road weather different animal. Nine and a half Feels like a lot of points, though. Am I crazy?
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C
Yeah, there's. There's a ton. Colleges as bad as NFL. There's a ton of injuries worth noting here. Notre Dame's gonna be without. But they lost a starting center last week for the year. They're already down their left tackle. Stats noteworthy. They're one of their best defensive tackles. Their defense tackles, huge drop off from last year. But one of their best defensive tackles is also out. But their defense has played much better the past three weeks because they've gotten healthier. They got Leonard Moybacks, one of the best corners in the college football. Devontae Smith, the transfer from Alabama. He's questionable. Will he play? That's huge because I am curious to see what Notre Dame does in the slot. Like, Lemon's going to line up in the slot a ton. And Notre Dame. Devonte Smith been hurt the entire year outside of week one. He was going to be their slot corner. They had this kid, they tried this other kid, Hobbs, and they tried this kid golden the past couple of weeks and he's been so bad. I. If it's Lemon versus this guy golden, he's going to have 200 yards. But does Notre Dame take more and follow Lemon around? That's something that I'm watching.
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F
Isn't it supposed to be raining?
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C
Yeah. So that's what I was going to bring up. So USC's left tackle, he didn't end up playing last week, so one of the best in the conference. We'll see on him. But USC's down all their backs, which is just massive. So they're down. I mean, we're on Jordan, I think, is you could make a case that he's. He could rise up to like the second or third back, take it in the draft because he can do it all. He's out like six weeks. His backup is out. So they're down to true freshman walk on. Who had 150 yards oddly last week against Michigan is King Miller, I think his name is. Yeah, he was like. But is that going to hurt them here because the first back taken in the draft next week will be Jeremiah Love. Next year in the draft they have one of the best backfields in the country. So. And the USC run defense is an elite. So if there's weather here, if there's. There could be wind and there could be a system that comes in during the game.
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Can't throw.
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Like you're not going to throw as much. And USC doesn't have its backs and Notre Dame, like that is a much better suited game for Notre Dame.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I think it's a little high but. And there's still some injury uncertainty. But I'm curious to see. I. I do like I don't know if I want to try to find out if what. I don't think I'll be able to but I know some people close to note. I want to find out what Notre Dame's plan is for Lemon. First of all, if it was Lemon versus more the Gores played some snaps in the slot, but he mainly stays on the outside. Like that'd be one of the best matchups. Like that's one of the best corners in the country versus one of the best receivers. But if he's not in the slot, that's some Lemon could go off anyway. I think like betting Lemon props is the way to go because like either USC is going to be in this game because they're finding a way to throw it and he's going to be a big part of that. I mean, they have one of the. Lemon and Lane are probably the best wide receiver doing the country or they get way behind and they're going to have to throw it anyway. But does feel a little bit high. This is. To me it's cl. It's an elimination game for Notre Dame. So if Notre Dame loses, they're out of the college football club. If they win, they're pretty much a lock because they're going to go 10 and two. They don't play coming with Pat at BC. BC has so many injuries and they're getting crushed every week. But like that's the red bandana game. I mean maybe that's.
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And their losses are better than a lot of teams wins. Yeah, they just are.
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I mean they're losses. I mean they're two.
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F
What's two top five teams? I mean the best team and I mean A and M could Might end up winning the sec. It's not an impossibility. Right.
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C
Yep. So. But usc, it's not an elimination game and. But it's Close, because it'll be their second loss.
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F
Illinois games a killer for them. If they had banked that, this would be a lot less pressure on this game.
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Yeah, they wouldn't need to win this game. So if they lose this game, then what they're going to have to do is beat Oregon. And I mean, they're also like, at Nebraska.
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F
That game's at Oregon. Or is it in la?
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It's at Oregon. Like the rest of their schedule. They. They're like, home against ucla, home against Iowa, home against Northwestern. They do go to Nebraska. That will be a must win. But the hardest other game on their schedule is at Oregon. So they. USC has to split one of these two, I think, to get in. And so, yeah, this is a huge game for the College Football Playoff race. They could knock Oregon out, too, if they win that game. We already know Penn State's not going, so, like. And it looks like Indiana and Ohio State are a lock, so. And the sec, I think, is going to continue to beat up on each other. So, like, is there room for four Big Ten teams? And then if so, who are those other two? I mean, is it most likely one of them is going to be Oregon, but, you know, can that other one be ufc? They're probably going to have to get one of these games, and then one of the spots that someone else could take is going to be filled by Notre Dame if Notre Dame wins this game.
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F
Okay, a couple other quick ones. I. I always. You were on one on Saturday night because you were not happy with Kirby dictating the terms with the.
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C
Oh, my gosh.
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And you were all over that thing, and it was looking like 17 to nothing. You were cruising and then they fumble and then this, and then they run in.
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They could have just went down and I still. And I would have covered. But Stockton runs it in instead of going down. But that game. I don't get tilted often. That game send me into a tailspin.
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F
I don't. I don't blame you. Same with the AD and Hugh. As they were walking off the field in that first half, I mean, it was. It was a meltdown that was on the.
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C
That was something.
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F
And now we got Georgia. You're all. You've been all over Georgia. That they're not nearly what they've been. And now Ole Miss beat them last year, which should have been like a defining moment for Darton Lane, but they. They blew that Kentucky game, and then they blew it at the end of Florida, which saved Billy Napier's job for another season. Now it Looks like Billy Napier is going to get fired on Sunday. So a lot of variables, things tied to each other.
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Obviously.
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Lane and Kirby's relationship goes back a long time. They got text chains going. He fucks with them on social media. He calls them fat. Like they have a unique relationship.
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But I don't know.
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F
I mean this. If Ole Miss goes to Georgia and were to win this game, would they then be basically a playoff lock? Would you consider pretty much they win this game. This is a massive moment in Georgia. Once you lose that Alabama Bama game, you have a little less margin for error. That's why when I was watching that first half and it looked like they were about to get. You never want to say blowout because it's college. Things can change fast. But that place, I respect Auburn's crowd. I mean that place rocks. I mean that.
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A
That is Jordan.
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C
Hair at night is no joke.
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F
Yeah, it's LSU at night.
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It's obviously.
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F
You know, Tuscaloosa's had a lot of night games. A and M gets a lot of credit.
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And you're watching that place with the towels, you're like, this place is badass. And you can feel the pressure on.
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F
Kirk Kirby knows like our season is about to feel over here. If we lose this game. I don't know. Can this little guy from Ferris State go into into Georgia and win a massive I don't game?
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C
I don't think so. I mean, Ole Miss has the. The weakest strength of schedule in the SEC of any SEC team so far. I mean, look, they arguably should have lost to Arkansas without a fumble. They barely won at Kentucky last week.
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F
Losing to Washington State right in the second half.
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Yeah, I mean they only. They want. They beat Washington state as a 33 point favorite, 24 to 21. Like the defense isn't great. They lost so much talent from that group last year. It was one of the most talented defenses in the country last year. The offensive line isn't great. The weapons aren't as good. Now this kid Chambers played well, D2, far straight transfer. But this is his first SEC road game. And what they do is they use a lot of tempo. They get up to the line and then Lane, they use some motion and then Lane will find the mismatches. But the communication cuts off and on the road, that's going to be tougher to do in Athens. Now am I running to lay it with Georgia? No, I mean like this. I guess I've been saying this Georgia team is not. There's just not that there's no, like really, I think the two best teams in the SEC are A and M and Alabama. But even Alabama, I mean Alabama beats Missouri by three, they beat Georgia by three. They got pretty fortunate against Vandy at home in a major revenge 5 and he turned it over a bunch in the red zone and then they had a meaningless touchdown late. Like there's just not that much separation from Tier 1 and Tier 2 in the SEC this year. So yeah, I mean how I look to bet this game is I will give Ole Miss and Lane came out and said this. He basically said that they were preparing for Georgia last week during Washington State week. So they were. It was just a horrendous performance. But he's going to have some wrinkles, some assuming. And Georgia's come out flat a lot over the past two years, but especially this year. But for all of Georgia's issues like their offense line should be healthier this week. They should be able to run the ball in Ole Miss, but the defense isn't the same. Like they're not getting elite pressure, their secondary isn't as good as it usually is. But Kirby is one of the best in game adjusters in the sport. So if Ole Miss comes out, Lane has a couple of tricks up his sleeve. I will be looking to bet Georgia live or Georgia second half. I don't think Ole Miss has the horses to get this done on the road, but this definitely isn't an elite Georgia team. Like all the, all the teams in the SEC to me are like even Alabama's dirt and A and M, they're all like five to like 15. Like a bunch of these teams and there's just not that much difference between them. So I think we'll continue to see chaos. I do think if I had to take two right now, it would probably be A and M and Alabama. But any of these teams, I mean I'm talking lsu, Vandy, Ole Miss, Missouri, Tennessee, like they're all capable of beating each other.
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If Mattier played like he did the first couple weeks, they look Oklahoma last week. What the leap was that?
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I mean, Jesus, Louise, he definitely was not healthy. I didn't even mention. But like Texas, their offense I don't think has the, but they have an elite, elite defense. I do think Kentucky is live. I did take Kentucky plus 13 this weekend. It should be an ugly game. The offense is, the Texas offense is still nothing. I mean last week they scored 23 but they had a punt return for a touchdown. They had three turnovers. They were playing a hurt quarterback. Kentucky Coming off the bye, they'll just play zone and say you can't get an explosive and make arch in that offense march down the field. Now how's Kentucky going to score? I don't know. But I don't trust this Texas offense in a bad spot to cover with margin. And then I don't mind Vandy against lsu. LSU is key defensive injuries, like major, major injuries. Wood Weeks, their best linebacker. They're already without one of their best defensive linemen. They could be without two more. That's not good against. Vandy wants to control the clock, they want to run the ball. And this LSU offense, they can't run the ball at all. So basically they're saying Nussmeier, throw it around 40 to 50 times. That's leading like a lot of three and outs and you know he's still good and that offense is still okay, but it's not great because they can't run it and there's just no balance. So what is that going to lead to? That's probably going to lead to Vandy just controlling the clock. And look, they're coming off a buy. They have great offensive minds and LSU plays a very aggressive defense which isn't the most ideal way to play Vandy because there's a lot of misdirection and try to just find some explosives. But I think Vandy controlling the clock throughout that game with LSU's defensive injuries, I think is LSU is eventually going to wear down. So I don't mind Vandy there.
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I mean this could be, that game could have ripple effects on college football. All of a sudden LSU could go into a tailspin and we could start being like, is Brian Kelly going to.
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Try to get out of there?
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And like, hey, hey, Craft at Penn State, I'm interested. We can do a swap. You don't need to buy me out. And then Clark Lee used to keep winning these games. You do what you do at Vanderbilt. I mean that put James Franklin on the map once upon a time and got him the Penn State job. So would. I mean I understand this guy is a alumni there, but are we not talking about this guy enough for like, why isn't, you know, if, if Lane ain't gonna leave Florida, the Florida State, shouldn't they be all over this guy? He's doing this in the SEC with Vandy.
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Yeah, I agree.
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And his buddies, the GM from like high school, they used to work in like rivals. Like they, they got a pretty high level operation.
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Whatever's going on in lsu, which everyone.
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Agrees is not what they thought when.
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Brian Kelly got there.
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This is the opposite. These guys, we thought last year a little bit of a one hit wonder. I mean holy shit, they've come back swinging. I've been blown away by how good they've been.
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Yeah. And they can, they can play with anyone in the sec. That's what I'm saying. Like there's just not that much difference between like who people consider the tier one and then the next tier. And then you throw farden. There's rumors that Napier is going to be fired no matter what. If he loses this weekend against Mississippi State. He's going to be fired for sure, I think. But there's rumors he's going to be gone. Like that job opens up. So the coaching carousel in college football is pretty crazy right now.
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Yeah, a lot of jobs. Okay, Stucky, enjoy the weekend. And hopefully Kirby doesn't make you blow gasket again. And I won't be on Ole Miss.
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So all of social media can thank me for that.
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F
How was the baby shower at the bar?
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C
Oh, it was fun. We went, we went from. I had a bunch of people in town so I went out all day Saturday and Saturday night, woke up and then went right to the bar for the early games and then was at the bar till two and I was doing karaoke with my little sister at like one in the morning on the Sunday. Ruined my entire week. It's, it's, it's been rough preparing all these games. I haven't been able to sleep. But it was fun. A lot of people came, got a lot of gifts, a lot of people that I care about. So it's fun. But we were, I was mainly just sweating NFL with friends and saying hi to some family. But yeah, it was a good time. But yeah, back to back every with people, a bunch of people being in town. I had to go out Saturday and then the showers just at the bar on Sunday. Had to go out both days. Luckily it was a really, really good weekend betting. But the Auburn game was the low light because I really wanted that one.
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And you had to be pretty intoxicated by that point.
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Oh, it's hammered. Hammered hammer. It's just I, I, I should just give my phone to like someone and be like once I get to that point. But people love when I tweet. I always get like people love, love that stuff because I really do care and I'm sweating it so hard because I know how many people follow and it's, I also have money on it. So yeah, it was Fun. But I definitely had a couple too many beverages. But it was always. I don't understand. That whole sequence was crazy. And then like after that all the flags and yeah that one was.
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F
It was the second half of the game when he did the timeout thing and he said he was clapping. Right?
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A
Yeah.
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I mean the second. What I should. I should have at that point just. But everything was going to go to shift for Auburn and Kirby such a.
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Good double down on Georgia.
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I should have just came back on Georgia which I didn't. I got too invested. I was like I'm. I want Auburn to win this game. I'm. I feel bad for their fans and so. But yeah, it was fun weekend. This weekend will be a lot more chill.
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F
I'll tell you that.
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I'm always indifferent on the program. But then you watch a night like.
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F
That night and you realize why this job is pretty highly talked about. I mean obviously they financially have backing but like you want to work at a place whether you're in the NFL or whether you're in college football at a place that cares. Like you want to be the head coach of Kentucky basketball. Why people give a.
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C
Like you.
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F
I. I understand like because I'm like.
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Is Auburn really Well you watch that.
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Game Saturday night against Georgia against Alabama, against lsu. It's like a religious experience. So it's like I kind of like okay, I kind of get Auburn a little more than I need to give the program a little more credit like than I think they probably get from non like southern people because it does feel like a program that's won before but it does feel second rate a little bit and it probably shouldn't be and that is probably what they would argue people around the program like we should be one of the top programs.
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C
Well just to circ tie it all back two freeze on the hot seat now. Yeah. Loses this game against Missouri. Some people are saying he's gone. So yeah, the coaching carousel.
- [117:46]
F
Clark Lee is going to get some of these offers because there aren't enough bodies to go around.
- [117:49]
C
Agreed. Yep.
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F
So it's like he's going to have to turn people down to stay at Vanderbilt.
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C
You got some role who will be in the mix. Who's at Tulane. He. He's going to get a job. I mean Kentucky was stoops. That's a second tier job. But he might not be here. So there's so many jobs. I think summer all can get one of them. There'll be some assistance. But yeah, it's like the guy at New Mexico He's a hot name but I don't think he can like will jump up to like a top tier yet. But the trickle down effect and where all these guys are going to come from, like even with the Wisconsin jobs probably going to open, that's a second tier one. But yeah, it's, it's crazy out there.
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F
But if like Lane goes to Florida Ole Miss, I mean they've been kicking ass. That's pretty good job. They pay a lot. A lot of people would be interested in that, right?
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C
Yeah, absolutely.
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F
It's like the hell the guy at, you know, Tulane might have his pick of the litter. It might be choosing between a couple jobs on the, on the second tier. Right?
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C
Yeah. I'm also curious to see if like I don't know if he would. He seems like so loyal to the job but I wonder. This is another. I did, I have tried. I have faith in Dillingham this weekend. Arizona State catching over a touchdown. It looks like Levitt's going to play against Texas Tech. Texas Tech's been amazing, but quarterbacks questionable. Couple guys in that defensive line which is dominant or one of them's out. One of them is questionable. This is like your max effort for Arizona State. Like I almost throw last week's game out. They didn't even know Lev was going to be out till the day before. This is their season. This is the peak of the market on Texas Tech who's undefeated against the spread but now laying over a touchdown at Arizona State. I did take as you but it's Will Dillingham who I think is an outstanding coach. Would he leave, you know, Zama Mater and. I don't know, I don't know the answer to that. But he would be, I think it'd.
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F
Have to be, it'd have to be a big time job.
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C
Yeah, huge one. But he would definitely get looks at some of the bigger jobs.
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F
If Florida and Penn State. Call him like you are a human being, you have to talk to him.
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C
Yeah, absolutely.
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A
Well Stucky, enjoy the weekend and hopefully.
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F
You have a little more, more chill, relaxing time on Saturday and Sunday.
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A
I'll talk to you next week.
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