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3 & Out - Reaction to Mac Jones & 49ers UPSET WIN vs. Matt Stafford & Rams on TNF
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Listen to WebMD Health discovered on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume what is going on? My people let me get my bearings here on the road. I can't believe what I just witnessed. The 49ers led by Michael McCorkle Jones and I don't even know who else because half the 49ers are injured and if you play for Kyle, you might literally might die on the field. But the 49ers go to SoFi. Many like to say Levi south and get a win against Sean McVay and the Rams 26 to 23. I don't even know where to start. That was incredible. We will I got notes for days. I got a bunch of stuff I want to hit on some other stuff around the NFL. I thought about just miming this podcast, but then it'd be pretty tough to listen if words weren't coming out of my mouth. So we will talk. Lamar Jackson's injured Big week for the Bills. Some people have been asking for me to bring something back that I might tease a little bit tonight. But before we dive in to to anything football. 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Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. Before we dive into any details of this game, I just want to say something because I'm guilty of this. I'm sure many people are guilty of this that are 49er fans, that are just football fans, that have made fun of Mac Jones over the years. That is one of the grittiest, toughest, most badass performances I can ever remember. I told my guy behind the scenes, Shane, who's a Giants fan, one of the most legendary performances I've ever seen is Eli Manning. He's a big Giants fan. When he came into candlestick in the NFC championship game, Harbaugh's first year, and the 49ers hit him over and over and over again. Say what you want about Eli, that is one of the more like. I know he went on to win the super bowl, but that performance in the rain was like, you respect that guy till the moment he dies. And Mac Jones to me has already had a legendary, and let me repeat, legendary run as a backup quarterback for the 49ers. He has three freaking wins and it's October 2nd. The 49ers are four and are four and one and three of their victories have come with Mac Jones playing quarterback. I said this earlier this year when a bunch of backups played, I think Mack had won a game and other backups had won. If your backup wins one game filling in for the starter, you could make the argument that he earned a salary, whether he's making 3 million, 5 million, 7 million, whatever. If he wins multiple games, he's underpaid. If he's doing what Mac Jones is doing, Mac Jones tonight. And listen, the Rams defensive backfield is horrendous. I mean, it's their corners, their team's good. Like their team's really good. I know Kieran Williams fumbles the ball a little bit. Two receivers are studs, quarterbacks a stud. The defensive line are Complete studs or coaching staff's big time. But their DBs suck. And I mean, DeMarcus Robinson and Kendrick Bourne are looking like Jerry Rice and Terrell Owens out there. Their DBs blow and Mac Jones annihilated them all night long. But here's the thing. Mac Jones had a knee that was going to fall off. There was one point in time tonight. I'm not kidding. Whoever you were sitting with watching this game, whether you're a Niner guy or whether you're not and you're just enjoying some football, you looked at your wife, your buddy, wherever you were and said, is Mac Jones going to die? That might sound hyperbolic. Those words came out of multiple people's mouths where I was sitting. And I guarantee where you were sitting, you're like, this guy might not make it through the night. By the end of the game, he's limping off. It looks like his. He's got like a torn ACL maybe, and he's throwing up all over himself. Like, this is insane. But Mac Jones, because Kyle Shanahan. Listen, what the 49ers got going on injury wise is unlike anything we've ever seen. I mean, they lost multiple guys on their defensive line a quarter into the game. There was a point in time where if you thought Mac Jones was going to be injured and Adrian Martinez was going to come in, they've lost four or five guys in the first half in this game. How is this possible? But it's just. You play for Kyle Shanahan. It also hit me tonight, I've been critical over the years of. I didn't mind, like, I guess Boses, but Iuke's last year was pretty embarrassing. I'm pro. If you play for the 49ers, any sort of holdout, hold in. I will never have an issue with you again. Because if you play for Kyle Shanahan, your career, any game can end. And your likelihood for injury playing for that man and this franchise right now is infinitely higher than other places. Not even debatable. No one would debate me because it's. It's a. It's a fact. It's just objective. Like, you play for the 49ers, your likelihood of getting injured for whatever reason, I don't know if it's the doctors, the trainers, the. The. The strength staff. And listen, some people get mad at me, maybe within the halls of the 49ers, I've been told, I guess people push back. It's like, here's what I know. All these people are going to get fired at the end of the year because when players suck, they get in trouble, right? Or, or they get cut, right? Or traded or just relieved of their duties. When you lose, coaches get fired. Yeah, like this situation behind the Niners have guys dropping like flies more than anything I've ever seen. And for Mac Jones to win this game with the MASH unit of Christian McCaffrey at 22 carries for 57 yards, I'm no math major, that's not great. It's not his fault. He has nowhere to go. Kyle Shanahan, who I respect, he is a fantastic offensive mind, knows how to coach up offense, get guys open, coach the quarterback really good. He fundamentally believes that offensive linemen aren't that important. He said it. This is not me. This is not conjecture. This is not a guess. They have gone on record. His offensive line coach has gone on record. They will draft skilled guys over offensive linemen. Well, trust me, it shows because all these guys are hurt. Anyway, so you drafted iuk, you drafted Ricky Pearsall. They're nowhere to be found. So you're rolling with Kendrick Bourne that you just found off the Scrap heaven waivers and DeMarcus Robinson who's coming back from suspension and Jake Todges, who I got to be honest, I followed the 49ers pretty freaking closely. I basically knew nothing about until he caught that game when he touched down in Seattle and you got Mac Jones getting peppered. And listen, the Rams defensive line, Jared Verse, stud, I mean one note I had, that guy might be underrated. I mean they were points tonight. They had him playing stand up linebacker over the center. They had him lining up on some like short yardage goal line stuff more inside that that, that guy is. He's got Cleo Mack 2.0 back in like 20, 15, 16 written all over him that that guy is a certified bad ass. Fisk is good, Young is good. I mean they have a ton of dudes up front and they were working and I Repeat, working Colton McKivitz, who the 49ers just gave an extension to. Who? I kind of understood it because like, well, it's like look at the rest of the offensive lineman. Mainly pretty bad in this league. You're not going to upgrade over that. That guy was getting his, I mean just taking the night. I mean they were destroying him and Mac Jones was bearing the brunt of this. Just getting hit over and over and over and just multiple drives. When it was 20 to 20, he led him right down the field. They started at the two yard line. I Was like, I don't. This is not going to go well. And he had multiple big passes, obviously a decent amount of his. He was 33 of 49 for 340 yards. He had a bunch of checkdowns, but he had some out routes, some like crossers over the middle, standing in there till the last second getting hit. I have the utmost respect, I will never ever again make fun of this guy. Because what I witnessed tonight, I've watched a lot of football. I'm 40 years old. I've been watching football that comes to memory for 30 plus years. And that that was a legendary performance when you factor in listen pretty embarrassing that Mac Jones is out there. You could argue because Brock Purdy, who clearly they rush back on the field, which to me kind of crazy given they just gave him $200 million and he's got turf toe. And then he plays in the game where he was objectively awful and it's pretty clear his toe was fucked up in the game. He heard it even more and who knows like is he going to go on injured reserve Monday and be gone for four games and his season kind of lost. I mean just a complete disaster. You could make the argument that it's like organizational mismanagement to put a quarterback that you just gave all this money. But because they've loved Mac Jones as it came out in the draft they had him who was already injured. He the only reason someone asked me tonight like why did Brock play last week and not Mac Jones? Because brock was like 65% and from what I heard Mac Jones was like 55%. So somehow the 49ers have multiple quarterbacks who clearly like Mac Jones. We can make fun of him the way he's playing right now. He's starting caliber who are both injured and Mac Jones, I mean literally I'm recording this. It's 9 o' clock at night. He's probably like 7% wherever he's sitting in the locker room. Mac Jones is 7%. Purdy's like probably like 2% given that he probably can't walk. I mean he couldn't even make the trip on his toe. Their quarterback situation, I just don't quite understand what Kyle's doing. But I do think this gets back to when you do not like they got lucky. Trent Williams wanted to come here, right? And he came. And their quarterbacks just get fucking peppered. And if Mac Jones wasn't the toughest SOB on that field tonight, the 49ers wouldn't pulled one of the crazier upsets I've ever seen. I mean, they came out the game. The game you could argue was one in the first half because that's when Mac Jones was probably like 80% and he was just lights out through multiple touchdowns. I think he had like 140 yards on two drives. By the end of the half, the 49ers had run 40 plays and the Rams had run 23. And even Kyle said at halftime, our best defense was just keeping them off the field and just having these long, sustained drives. Running clock, and it was 17, 7 and a half. So you just kind of had some breathing room. But you knew it's like, well, it's like devonte, Adams, Puka, these guys are going to score. And they came storming back. And the end of that game, I mean, once it's 23 to 20 and they're driving and I. I respect McVeigh, it's like, yeah, you could have, you know, I guess that's overtime. Now. I'm all thrown off. Let me, let me, let me run this back. 23, 20. I guess they kick the field goal. So they were going to score. Okay, we got a lot going on. I got to take a deep breath right now. I'm fired up. I'm excited. When they were driving that, it felt like the Niners only had one timeout in the fourth quarter somehow. I mean, of course, they had blown multiple timeouts in the second half that you could argue. It's like, bro, you can take a five yard penalty in the third quarter instead of blowing a timeout because you might need that thing. And the Rams were kind of methodically at the end of the game, and it looked like they were going to score and there was going to be enough time. And the Niners were going to be down four points because it was going to be 27 to 23. So they were going to be forced to, you know, drive the field with probably, I don't know, 30, 40 seconds left on the clock. And Alfred Collins, the guy that they just drafted in the second round from the University of Texas, made, I mean, a play that I would say indirectly won them the game because if Williams is just tackled on the one yard line, they run out more clock. Maybe the 49ers burn a timeout. Maybe they need. Maybe they just kind of keep bleeding it and score with not that much time out, Even though the 49ers then run three plays, burn about 15 seconds max off the clock. And I think you could argue in. My initial reaction was like, Kyle, you don't need to be a pussy. Just you run a really high percentage pass play maybe like a screen To Christian McCaffrey, maybe just a quick slant. But I also, when your offensive line is getting beaten like a drum, the opportunity which has already happened to the 49ers this year, to get a holding in the end zone, all of a sudden it's a safety. It's 22, 23, and you're punting it off to them. Could had disaster written all over it. So it is understandable why Kyle got so conservative in that moment. It's understandable. Would have liked to be a little more aggressive. But again, when you got McKibbets out there, understandable. And then they held him to a field goal and they wanted an overtime. But I think the other thing that I wrote down is one thing tonight that was very evident. And the Rams have been good at this because their field goal kicker runs this like Tim Wakefield knuckleball. Well, the 49ers, who you know, Fred. Tails never fails. Tails never fails. He calls heads. Flip tails. Stafford picks to play defense, which is the right call because the 49ers won. They're picking to play defense too. Well, the kicker fucked up. And I do believe that this kickoff rule is paying dividends. It's made everything way more interesting because he's been getting greedy and it's working. I mean, early in the game, he's kicking these knuckleballs to Sky Moore. It's like bouncing off his knees, bouncing in the air. I'm like this thing. I've watched the 49ers special teams since Kyle's been here. This thing has disaster written all over it. And then it's almost like a golf shot. It's like he chunked it, mishit it somehow. It doesn't even hit the 20 yard. Doesn't get to the 20 yard line. Boom. Whistle blows. You. You get the ball at the 40 yard line and then it's like use, check. First down, McCaffrey. First down. Tonja's first down. You're already at like the 30 yard line. I mean, that key that, that, that like change in the rule has had dramatic impact on the sport. And you saw it tonight. And the 49ers, boom. Go right down and get into field goal range. But when Matt Stafford, then they get the ball and Matt Stafford has that big ball, the two two Atwell when they came back from, I think starting overtime and the camera goes to their sideline, Matt Stafford is on a knee. The receivers are all huddled around him and Tutu Atwell is sitting on the bench and Stafford's like Bill Walsh on his hand drawing up a play. I think he had drawn up because they knew whatever, whatever, you know, formation they were in. The safety was ending up in one on one coverage with Tutu Atwell, who is probably the fastest guy on the field tonight for either team. And he knew if we can get one on one coverage, just run like a deep post, just go deep and he will not be able to run with you. And I think Matt Stafford got a little pressure and had to do that 360. But I mean the 49ers just forcing a little pressure might have saved the game because if he hits him in stride, there's no way he catches him. Tutu Atwell walks in the end zone kind of like last week, has a walk off touchdown. So just that play, while it was a huge chunk play, it was like 50 plus yards. And I give Stafford credit for going like McVeigh Shanahan on his knee. The, just the subtle pressure. The 49ers, I mean, they lost multiple defensive linemen. Multiple defensive linemen and they're already missing Bosa. So by the end of the game, their rotation, instead of like going, you know, eight, nine deep, is probably cut to seven dudes. And these aren't exact. Two of them are rookies. So that play, that play was huge. And then obviously, like I commend McVeigh going for the win. I think we all kind of felt like, are we going to get another tie? Who knows? If he kicks a field goal, you know, Mac Jones, is he leading them in the field goal range? He can barely walk, he can barely breathe. But I got no problem him going for it. I think if you're a Rams fan, it's like you got Devonte Adams, you got Puka. They are, I would say, the two best. I mean, Puka is the best. But possession, wide receivers, right? A quick out, a quick slant. I mean, one of Puka's touchdowns was just your classic kind of like bunch formation. He basically just slanted to the ground and Stafford throws to him. Why wouldn't you run something like that? You could do it on both sides with Devonte and Puka. Those guys, God put those guys on earth for like a fourth and one something quick that they are going to catch. And Stafford can throw him a 99 mile an hour fastball. The 49ers got lucky. It's like the best player they got on the field is Fred Warner. The two guys they drafted, you know, Weigh a combined, I don't know, £630 in Collins and in Williams from Georgia. So to go with just some of their other defensive line bodies and D winners just going, it was pretty clear too, once they called timeout that it was like they were going to do something bunched up and try to be aggressive and you know, I give him credit for going back to Kieran Williams who had fumbled earlier. But I think the 49ers got to be very happy because, listen, as someone who was Rooting for the 49ers tonight, I was glad they just didn't spread the thing out. I was like, there's no way they're stopping that. Feels like the 49ers have one, you know, dependable corner in Lenore. But even if you have a good high end dependable corner, that guy still can lose in a one on one matchup to a guy like Puka or Devonte. And Upton Stout weighs, you know, 140 pounds soaking wet. And Renardo Green is a second year player that's, you know, it's not like he's Richard Sherman out there. So your huge advantage was right there. And they kind of, they played into the one place where the 49ers at least could hang because as the game went, the 49ers aren't going to get as much pass rush. They're just not going to be able to cover those guys. I mean, Stafford threw for 389 yards. I mean, I, I think in the first half, I, I didn't write down his stats, but I, I don't think he had more than like 100 yards. I mean, he had to, if I had to guess between overtime and the second half through for close to 300 yards. I mean, the second half he, he was slicing and dicing them because if you can't get to him, that was the difference. Like Mac Jones, he had to check the ball down because he was fucking getting annihilated. You know, Stafford just had some time at some time. It's like, whew, throwing some deep cross or throwing some deep out. I honestly cannot believe the 49ers won this game. I honestly can't. It's one of Those that they're 4 and 1 now, they get this long break. It's crazy how many games Kyle has won against McVeigh. I mean, some of them aren't as crazy. You know, when they got Debo Samuel and George Kittle, who have both had huge games against them. McCaffrey in his prime a couple years ago. I mean, I, I got a lot of respect for McCaffrey too. He clearly isn't the same player that he was a couple years ago, but he had eight catches for 82 yards. He had 22 carries for 57 yards. So he just accounted for, you know, 30 touches. I mean, I think at halftime he had 18. So with Kittle nowhere to be found, you just kind of got to rely on him. And it just kind of slows down the game a little bit because the 49ers, I mean, they still don't have that many explosive plays. I mean, their most explosive run is 8 yards. Kendrick Bourne hit a couple big ones. I mean, Kendrick Bourne, 10 catches for 142 yards. And I think he had a drop. He def. Yeah, I guess he had. He had one target that he didn't catch, so that was the drop. I mean, he was, he was remarkable. He really was. If you told me coming into the game that Matthew Stafford would go 30 of 40, 47 for almost 400 yards and throw three touchdowns, I would say I bet the Rams win this game by 10 points. And this gets back to. You could argue the game was won when the 49ers just threw 14 points on the board within, I don't know, the first 20 minutes of the game. I mean, that first drive they had to open up the game was an absolute clinic by Kyle. Like, we can be critical of Kyle, where I don't know what you're doing, but guys on your team are dropping like flies. But at the same time, like, you did a pretty good job tonight. I mean, I think the Rams defense is pretty good. I think they're a well coached defense. They're clearly one of the more physical units in the league. And you know, total offense, we're talking, let's see, total yards, 470 yards. If you would have told me that the Rams had. Obviously there was overtime too, but 456 yards. I mean, the reason that I think most people would have been like, you know, I know this. Eight and a half points, huge point spread. Mac Jones, who are these guys? How are the 49ers going to score 15 points? And they had 17 and a half. So I mean, really, even when you factor in overtime too. They scored nine points the rest of the game. They had a field goal in the third quarter. They had a field goal in the fourth quarter and they had a field goal in overtime. The other thing is, and this is why people in 49er land were so critical of Jake Moody, that look at The Chiefs, right? Look at the Chiefs last year. They went 15 and 2 and you could argue the last game doesn't even count. They went 15 and one every single game. Every. You could not turn on a Chiefs game. Whether they were playing the Raiders, whether they were playing the Bills, whether they were playing the Ravens or whether they were playing the fucking Jags, every game looked the same. And having a field goal kicker that you can depend on is massive because you are going to need, obviously the extra point now is much more difficult. It's just the margin for error is higher because it's a longer field goal than it was years ago when it was basically a 10 yard chip shot. But to me, these field goals, like Jake Moody, if Jake Moody's still on their team, which they cut him weeks ago, but like, it was difficult for them to cut him. And even Kyle said part of the reason it was hard because I envision him going somewhere else and having success because that's what happens to a lot of kickers. Well, yeah, if he goes somewhere and has success, you tip your hat, you say, good job. But right now you're not having any success for me and you're going to cost me games. And the, the kicker change tonight saved him because Eddie Pinero, I mean, hit a 59 fucking yard field goal. I mean, that's when. Honestly, I didn't know Eddie. I don't know that much about Eddie. I mean, I'm not breaking down kickers, but when they rolled them out, I'm like this, I get it. We get to use these kicking balls throughout the week. Clearly guys have more pop. But what I think Eddie Pinero, I, I don't know. I wasn't thinking like Sebastian Janikowski or Justin Tucker and he fucking drilled that thing. Drilled it. So you could argue Mac Jones and Eddie Pinero make the game. That's what if you're the Rams, I. That's going to be hard to sleep tonight. You just got beat by Mac Jones, who could barely walk and was puking throughout the game, Eddie Piniero and a bunch of guys that casual football fans, you know, couldn't point out of a lineup. I mean, there are a lot of guys on that field that you're like, who's this guy? Who's. Who's playing defensive line for the 49ers. You got Fred Warner trying his damnedest running around out there. I mean, I don't know how many tackles he had. And I probably, my guess would be a lot. Fred Warner? Yeah, 12. I mean, Siegel, the rookie safety had 13, which is not ideal when you're, when your safety leads the team in tackles. Landman, that guy was making plays. That game was phenomenal. My take tonight was just like, this is one of my favorite games. Like, you're talking to a biased individual. I'm an NFC west guy, AFC west guy. Like, these are the teams I like watching the most. Unless it's like Brady Manning, you know, Rogers. But like, this is my bread and butter. So I'd be dialed into this game regardless what time of day. Sunday, Monday, Thursday, I don't care. But how thrilling that was. I mean, one thing is that stadium pops on television. I don't know, the lighting, the. At night in there, it works. It's worked for years. I've been going back to that Charger Raider game a long time ago at SoFi. Remember week 17. Any night game there, Chargers or the Rams, just, just pops. And this was thrilling. I mean, you're on the edge of your seat and this was classic NFL. You're like, this game shouldn't be good. I mean, I think it closed at eight and a half point spread, which with how many injuries the 49ers had, you went, you know, how are they not going to get killed? But then you're watching pregame warm ups and Kyle's just kind of like running around the field with a smile on his face. And I'm getting a lot of texts from 49er. When I say people like fans, they're like, kyle seems awfully happy to be coaching Mac Jones here. And it worked. That was. I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that. I was seriously, I mean, the backup quarterback, the gritty, just gutting it, the toughness to win a game that felt like they were not going to win multiple times against a team that like if, if these were stocks and you go, okay, for the next 10 weeks, are you betting on the team? With a healthy Matt Stafford, a healthy Devonte Adams, a healthy Puka Nakua, a healthy Jared Verse or whatever that is, the 49ers are rolling out, right? I mean, it's like, it's like, well, Brandon Iuk, John lynch said the other day, like, he's nowhere close to coming back. Like Kittle, I hope. I mean, I don't know, you get hamstring injuries and get injured again. Brock Purdy, we ever going to see him again? Mac Jones, is he even going to be healthy enough to play next week at Tampa? Like, that'd be like a realistic question. Is he going to be healthy enough to play next week at Tampa. And honestly, the thrillingness of this game, and I mentioned a little bit earlier, does overshadow. If the 49ers were in New York, if they were in Philadelphia, I think there'd be a lot more vitriol and just venom coming from the media at the 49ers for the Purdy situation. Now, part of it, it was a short week, so it's not like Kyle, they did zoom media calls. Everything happened pretty fast. But I do think next week there are a lot of questions that need to be answered about how did you put a compromised player back? And I don't blame the player, you know, Brock Purdy, chip on his shoulder guy, he would always want to play, which I think we all respect. But, like, there are things that are out of the. We've talked about this forever with concussions, right? It's like players will go back if you let them. But when you give a guy multiple hundreds of millions of dollars, you call him the franchise quarterback and he fucks up his toe and there's a chance, and this gets back to the Bosa situation, that it's like, what are we doing? Are we making sound decisions as a coaching staff with our doctors, with our trainers of all the teams in the league? It feels like there's no synergy, right? Like, of course Brock Purdy's going to want to get back on the field. You know why? Because he's a fucking competitor. You know why? Because he's seen multiple other guys in his career be ahead of him, lose their spot because they got injured and never see it again. He literally took their spot. He's no dummy. You know the guy he once replaced, Trey Lance, that guy was almost not the pick because Mac Jones, who's now literally on the team, is the backup quarterback. So if you're Brock Purdy, yeah, it's awesome getting these enormous direct deposits. But, like, the one thing I think we'd all agree, like, Brock Purdy ain't playing for the money. So he's seeing that this guy Mack Jones, who Kyle Shanahan once had a football crush on and was talked out of taking, is now his backup came in and is winning games. You don't think Brock's going to want to go, yeah, I'll just fucking tough it out. I'm getting back on the field. And that's where you go, Brock. The money is your security that you're not going anywhere here. But we're not letting you back on the field because this injury I'm no doctor here, but we've been all around long enough to know this turf toe. It went viral a couple weeks ago with Jason Kelsey describing it. I've had multiple people, I'm sure many people listening or watching this know people that have had it just as like a casual athlete and they're like, it's insane. So to put this guy back and then a day later it's like, yeah, he's out. And now a rap sheet comes out before the Thursday night game. Be like, hey, who knows? Might be week to week. So is he going to have to go on injured reserve? Like, I'm sorry. Like, that's ridiculous. What the fuck are we doing? Like, that cannot happen. I'm not comparing as a player to Josh Allen to Patrick Mahomes, but like those teams treat those guys with the utmost care when it comes to their body. Like, hey, Lamar, injury out. You know why you are our franchise now. I understand it's a little different with Purdy. Like he's not at their level as a player, but just in, in terms of the way he was just compensated, you would think it was just operate a little bit differently. And the win and being four, no, it's going to overshadow that a little bit. But it's going to be a major, major question because I think there's a decent chance by the time we get to next week, is Mac Jones going to be able to practice on Wednesday? And you could be like, well, Jon, Mac Jones couldn't have gone last week against Jacksonville. And that was probably true. What I was told is like, Purdy was just better than Mac Jones in terms of their health status. So it's like neither was great. They just went with the more healthy guy. How about this? Scrap them both, go with Adrian Martinez and just punt the fucking game against the Jags. Because this game against the Rams, way more important, way more important. And then you lose the game against the Jags anyway and you lose this player for even longer. So I just think that it. There's. I've never witnessed anything like this. Just the, the consistency of the injuries. I mean every game, three or four guys every game, like fucking clockwork. And then the Purdy things kind of icing on the cake. It feels like something's not adding up. It's. It's an embarrassing look that there's no way around it because like, he's too important. Other guys, okay, rush him back, whatever. It's like, we're not that invested. But there are a couple of guys on this team, like, you know, Bosa, Fred Warner, Trent Williams, the quarterback that, like, you probably take a different tactic and they can back it up. And I'm sure Kyle gets asked about it after the game, but it's an embarrassing look. It really is. And I just think, you know, you're four and one, it's awesome. But it's like this feels like it's being kept together by duct tape. Right? I mean, incredible effort by players, coaches that are actually on the field, but, man, and that even things worse for the Rams, like, that's who you just lost to. What a game. Wow. I have anything else I want to hit on the kickoff rule versus a badass. How can the Niners have this many injuries? Holdout. I said I respect any holdout now for Kyle Shanahan because you literally might die on the field. Respect for Rams dbs. I know cowards talked about this. There usually aren't just, like, available defensive backs, right? If you need a defensive back or you need an offensive lineman that they just don't come around the trade deadline. They're not. It's like, oh, there's just, hey, man, you could trade a second for like, Lane Johnson. Like, those don't exist. No good offensive lineman is on the trade block during the season. I would say the same thing for the defensive backslike the Rams. Their defensive backs are not that good. Which, listen, you can't have a perfect team. They've invested heavily in their offensive line. They, or I mean, their offensive skill guys, their offensive line is okay when healthy. They've invested heavily in their defensive line. It's like, you just got. I got to get lucky on some DBs. There's corners kind of suck, but what are you going to do? Like, there's not. There's no Jalen Ramsey available. And whoever is going to be available is going to come with a major red flag. There's a reason he's available. I mean, look, last year, it's like all the Adam Peters traded for Marcus Lattimore. How's that one working out? Guy looks terrible. So I just think that it kind of is what it is. And I've said this forever, like, most teams are going to have some flaw. And it's all. And I hear this a lot, too. The Eagles complain about this, like, oh, our second corner sucks. Welcome to the NFL. Most teams don't have, you know, Mitchell and like, Darrell Revis on the other side. That's not usually the way it works. Be lucky that you actually have, you know, six good starters out of the 11. And then you try to patchwork it around it, you try to rotate guys in, you try to coach them up, scheme and you know, get every advantage you can. But you're going to have situations where, you know, good offense and let's face it, even if you have a good defensive backs, like good offense typically beats good defense. It's kind of like basketball, right? It's like, yeah, you can have the greatest defender in the world like Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant's fade away is usually going to, you know, win more often than not throughout the course of the game. So I just think, I still think the Rams are going to be okay. Man, what a win. The Rams get the Ravens, then they get the Jags, the Saints, they'll be okay. The 49ers, this is where the schedule, you know, at 4 and 1 now you can either you can go to Tampa. It's like you can lose that game. You're four and two something. I mean it's probably one of the harder games on the schedule. Then you get the Falcons at home Sunday night Football the following week. That won't be easy. But you're facing, you know, rookie quarterback, I mean technically he's not a rookie, but he has what he started three games last year. He started by then six, seven games. So it's a guy with, you know, about 10 starts to his career under his belt. Then you get the Texans who have no offense. You got to go to Houston, the Giants. Then you play the Rams again at home. You got the Panthers on there, you got the Browns, the Titans. This is what we're talking about. It's like they're, you just got to get healthy, which I think is an impossibility. Like how do you get healthy when feels like everyone is just can't stay on the field. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Rivalries upset chaos. College football is at its best when you're part of the action. Sign up with Hard Rock Bet today. Place your five dollar bet and if it wins, you'll score 150 in bonus bets on top of your winnings. Don't sit on the sidelines. Download the Hard Rock bet now. 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There were some people and I defended them before. It's like, did we miss our window? Is John Harbaugh the right guy for the job? It's like, I do think you could make the argument you missed your window. And that was two years ago when you had the loaded coaching staff and the loaded team. It was right there for you. You got the AFC Championship game at home and you laid an egg. There's no way around it. Last year you had the. I don't know if you would have beat the Chiefs, but you definitely had the better team than the Bills and you lost that game. Now it's the playoffs. Like Belichick lost to Rex Ryan. The playoffs are hard, right? You playoff. Sean McVeigh's lost some, you know, killer playoff games. It happens. This is not easy, but you got to go, was that our best opportunity now, you're not typically going to be a team, like pick an eighth in the draft, like potentially this year. But I think you got to answer big picture. As we transition away from some of these guys on the roster, like Derek Henry, Marlon Humphrey, some of these guys in like three years are just not going to be on the team. Lamar is. Do you want John to be the coach? Like, I'm not sitting here, like I've always said with Mike Tomlin. And John Harbaugh has won a lot more playoff games recently than Mike Tomlin, though I think Steeler fan will be like, well, yeah, he's fucking Lamar Jackson. You put Lamar Jackson on the Steelers, it would just flip flop and you'd be like, yeah, it was true. John Harbaugh was on the hot seat the year they drafted lamar Jackson. Pick, whatever, 32, right? People forget they took Hayden Hurst ahead of him, but saved his career. Came in midway through the season for Joe Flacco and they made the playoffs. But when you lose and things were already a little weird, couldn't get over the hump, you know, with this guy, I just, I don't think they will fire him because I also think, like, if you're going to fire. That's the thing. If you're going to fire Mike Tomlin, if you're going to fire a John Harbaugh, you got to tell me who you're replacing him with. Because you don't just fire a guy like that. To just go on a search, you'd be crazy. You'd have to have a specific guy. It's why last year I said, listen, I would move on from Mike Tomlin because Ben Johnson was available and Ben Johnson, of all these opportunities going to turn on the Pittsburgh Steelers, no chance. Or even a Mike Vrabel who is like Mike Tomlin. Like, if you were going to do that, you had a specific guy, but they chose not to do that. But now you look around like, who's the Ben Johnson of this class? Maybe Joe Brady. But that's, that's pretty risky. I would say Ben Johnson stock felt like, who knows? Maybe as this year goes, maybe Joe Brady, they win the super bowl, it can get a lot higher. But I think that makes it kind of difficult is you got to have a replacement, right? Who am I pulling the trigger here? Going to make a change. And again, I'm not acting like these guys suck. Mike Tomlin, John Harboth, these guys were ever. Andy Reid got fired, he got a job immediately. These guys would get hired immediately. I just think These conversations do gain a little more steam when shit gets weird. So what makes pro sports kind of interesting? It's like you have these years, year from hell. People start asking questions, start looking at the team like, God, some of these guys are not going to be around. Who knows? Metabuque, a neck injury, it's one thing. It's like, hey, you know, he broke his foot. He's just going to be probably out for three months, probably out for the year, right? Like a neck injury sometimes, stuff like that. It's like we look back three years, like his neck was never right. It's scary, right? It's like the bat stuff with the back, right? I mean, there are injuries. You see Tyreek Hill's injury that it really quick on Tyree Kill. I was actually in the car the other day in the afternoon, and if you go to Fox sports, I'm a SiriusXM guy. And I was listening they. Nick, First Things first was on and Nick Wright and Broussard were talking about Tyreek and his, his credentials for the hall of Fame. And I, I guess Colin had said that he didn't think he was a Hall of Famer, I think. And this is where, like, you look at the total, like, he's not gonna have Jerry Rice's longevity, right? That's not going to be the case here. Tim Brown played for like three decades. His career, decent chance is over. Now. I will say this. Tyreek Hill is a, no doubt about it, hall of Famer. In my mind. He is easily one of the best players I've ever seen at the position. And in his peak, he was an elite of the elite. It's my issue going into the hall of Fame. I always say, like, you could say his career wasn't that long. I thought you could argue that Tyreek had the biggest play in Andy Reid's career. The Chiefs were going to lose that Super Bowl. People forget because it's a long time removed. They've been to a bunch since third and 15. I think they called it WASP, kind of big play, change the game. So. And I mean, there's no disputing his ability in the biggest games. His career, obviously, with Mahomes, whatever it was four years. And listen, the Dolphins are a joke. Well, they got Tyree Kill in his prime and he fucking dominated with tua. So to me, I wouldn't even hesitate when it comes to hall of Fame. The other thing is we have examples. It's like the law, you know, with precedent. It's like we have precedent set before of Guy like Terrell Davis. So your career, it's not like, hey, it's impossible to make the hall of Fame unless you have minimum like a 10 year career. Like that's, that's out the window, right? Kurt Warner's had like peak years of like a total of what, like five? He had a longer career but like he had the four, three or four, you know, peak years in St. Louis and then a couple more in Arizona. But like Tyreek, once he was good, he was non stop good until basically now. And I think and again they showed that on the, on Monday Night Football. I just saw the end result when his leg was pointing the right the wrong way and I never looked again. But by all accounts, obviously the kneecap, the ACLs, the ligaments, for a guy that's predicated on speed, you never say never with modern medicine. But it doesn't look great. But even if he never plays another snap in a regular season game, if I was a voter, I wouldn't hesitate to go. First ballot hall of Famer Tyreek Hill. Look, if you smoke or dip, I'm gonna give you a few good reasons to try Zen nicotine pouches. First, Zyn is America's number one nicotine pouch brand. And, and Zen offers an unbelievable rewards program. There's a lot of options for nicotine satisfaction, but there's only one Zen. 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I would not have drafted him if you said middle cop. Was he on your draft board? You could have said no. I would not have drafted him one through seven. Undrafted free agent. Sure would not have used a draft pick on Dylan Gabriel. But listen, there's different strokes for different folks. There is no disputing his resume in college. And, like, we'll see how it goes in the NFL. I would doubt it goes well. Why? Because the Browns suck. But he was given the opportunity. Ozzy Newsom called them. Howie Roseman called them, like, even the Eagles. Who? This AJ Brown thing. AJ's like, worth $100 million. All Pro super bowl champ. Even when he does something dumb, he'll come, like, the next day. Even if he's lying, which I kind of think he is, he's pretty good at. Like, yeah, I didn't mean it. I should talk to you guys. I'm better than that. Like, I do think he's lying, but I respect it. Like, there's a way to be a pro and he knows, right? And I just think there is a level when you get in that building and you're around Jordan Mylotta, Saquon Barkley, right? You're just around these guys. Brandon Graham, those guys are still around the building. It's just Vic Fangio, you know, it's. Sirianni now has a Super bowl championship. It's like John Harbaugh, Lamar Jackson, you had the opportunity to go there. Instead you chose the clown show, and that's the Browns. And then you become part of it and it becomes a circus and the whole thing's just kind of embarrassing. So it's like, I go back to this all could have been somewhat avoidable, though. He's not. Like, there's no guarantee he beats out Cooper Rush probably doesn't. So he's probably a third. He's not even in this game. If he had got drafted by the Ravens, I would say he's probably the backup to Cooper Rush in this game. Like, he's. He's a third stringer in all these places. He's not beating out Tanner McKee. But I think I saw Orlovsky say this. You go to the right places. That's who teaches you how to win, how to be a pro, how to operate, you know? And you chose to go to the Browns, somehow is run by these two Ivy League guys. And it's just. I mean, it's like the same shit every year. And now you kind of fall into that and you do the mimes and it just becomes like the biggest story in football. And this is also where you got to be very careful about becoming Just like this negative aura around you, you know. And that was a situation that if anyone, you know, with worth their salt would have been like, bro, this is a terrible idea, do not do this. I mean it ain't worth it. But in Cleveland everything's worth it. You can do whatever you want. And, and, and last but not least, I do think this is a massive, massive week for the Bills. Because you look around the NFL, I'm rooting for the Bills to win the super bowl this year. I think it would be incredible. I mean I really do. I want the Buffalo Bills to be the super bowl champs. I think it would be great for the fan base. I think it would be just. I just think it would be an awesome NFL story. And when you look around the landscape, look at who whoever in the AFC is going to play a lot of question marks, right? The Lions, I mean they might get their stuff together but they still have an offensive coordinator that's calling place for the really the first time. We'll see how it continues over the years. And a first time defensive coordinator obviously they got really good players. Eagles loaded roster not quite as good as last year, but still really damn good and is going to be a major factor. And they got an elite defensive coordinator and excellent offensive skill guys. I know they're playing like shit on offense for the most part, but at any moment, you know AJ Brown can break a 50 yard play, Saquon can take one of the house. But the afc, it's like the Chargers injuries, they're in shambles. You know the Chiefs are going to be tough, but they've already got two losses. The Ravens are out of this. Like are you losing sleep to a 42 year old Aaron Rodgers? So it's like this type game. You're playing the Patriots who's got a little momentum because they just got to play the, the Porta Potty Panthers. And like this is a game if you're the real deal, like you squash them like you win this thing like 35 to 15, like you crush them. I kind of like the Bills to do that. The only thing that gives me a little hesitancy is just you know, their defense, you watch them last week. Listen, I think the Saints actually offensively are not bad, but I think this is a big week for the Bills. I think this is all opening up for them right now and that's where the Chiefs are like don't forget about us. And last but not least last year I think I would do this on Mondays. I would do the, do the Worst teams in the league, like the Penthouse and the Outhouse. And the Panthers had a stretch where they were so bad they look like one of the worst teams we had ever seen. You know, early on in, Bryce Young. And then when Andy Dalton got there, he did win, I think his first game. But then it kind of progressively got worse and it was like, this is. This is unwatchable. I called them the Porta Potty Panthers and at the Ryder cup because I kind of compared them to, you know, when you're at an event and you go to a Porta Potty, that is just the most disgusting Porta Potty you ever went in. I do believe at the Ryder cup probably at like 3 in the afternoon. So think about this. They tee off at 7 in the morning. So that Porta Potty, it was Friday, even if it got cleaned out the night before, had gotten, you know, eight plus hours worth of work. And it was easily. And you had to factor in it's 90 degrees, it's humid. You know, where the seat is basically all full. It's just like, it's got shit. It's got toilet paper, it's got, you know, urine. People probably pouring drinks in there. I mean, it's just full to the brim. And that heat and humidity, that smell, it's the worst Porta Potty. The actual Porta Potty was nice, but in terms of the smell, I think it's the worst one I've ever been to. I walked out and Terrence, who's a sales guy for us, I said, I think if you paid my. My wife might turn down walking in there for a million dollars. It was that bad. And there were a couple, like, women I saw before I got in there that had like, turned around and went to another one. And I, I do think the Titans are approaching that level of stink. Like, it's, it's really bad. Cam Ward called the team ass, which I saw Brian Callahan kind of come back and say he's going to learn that. It's like he's going to learn what this is. Ass like this. This team is. This team's awful, bro. I'm rooting for you. Brian De la Salgrad, UCLA guy, I want to like you, but your team is ass. So I think Cam Ward has nothing to apologize. He wasn't even taking shot at anyone. He was just saying, basically, we suck. He's factual. And they're really bad. The jets are really horrendous. And Carolina, who did have the one moment against Atlanta, that game last week against The Patriots, whenever I'd look over, it was like, 35 3, 453 is like, Geez, this is. This is stinky porta Potty level bad. I would not include the Saints in there. And I know the Saints have not won a game. I know they. I know they are.04. I think the Saints offense is pretty good. I like their receivers. Kamar is a stud to me. He's got, you know, trade deadline written all over him. Yeah, Rattler's not terrible. I think defensively they stink. And special teams have got some issues. But like, offensively, if you're a Saints fan, you go, Kellen Moore down some plays. They got some explosive. I would not put them like they're, they're a porta Potty. But like, you know, when you walk in, the porta potty's just been clean. It's like, actually, it's not that bad. Especially if you go in early in the morning somewhere. Like, you know when you work, like, if you work construction and you get to the side like six in the morning, it's chilly outside and you walk in, it doesn't even smell. You're like, God, it smells like fresh air in here. It's clean. It's been clean the night before. I would say that that's their level of port a potty. The. The Titans are the Ryder Cup Porta Potty, which again, is the most disgusting smell. And just that. That humidity of all the fecal matter and the urine that is just sitting in the air. But like, you have no choice. Like, you've been holding the piss for like three holes. I gotta go bad. You can't really go in the trees. Cause there's cops around. You never know. New York City may get trouble. You're like, not, not worth it. So you just, you just hold it. You wait in line and then you just open, open that door and there's no turning around. 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