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3 & Out - Texans SURVIVE Chargers, Ravens OUTLAST Packers on NFL Super Saturday
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What is going on everybody? How are we doing? John Middelkoff three and Out Podcast hopefully you are doing well. This show is presented by my friends at Zone Pouches. Hopefully you had a great Christmas. Enjoyed, enjoyed. Family, friends. I have been an absolute pig. I really have. Cake, pie, ice cream. I need to go on like a seven day fast because feel terrible but that's. That's what the holidays are for. Same with football because we just watched the Baltimore Ravens run for 300 yards on the Green Bay packers who are officially now in shambles and they might only have. They're locked into the seven seed. The Chicago Bears win the division, obviously have a massive game against the 49ers on Sunday night Football. The Chargers lose the Texans. They're both in the playoffs. Houston eliminates Indy. The Broncos have officially won the West. First time the Chiefs haven't won the west in I think nine years. I saw kind of a crazy little streak. And some other big news this weekend was Max Crosby him a little at odds with the Raiders. So we'll dive into that situation where, where could he be headed this off season if they choose to trade him, which I, I think they probably should. Yeah, we'll try to get you out of here on that. Not, not a super long Saturday night podcast because we got a lot of games Sunday with a lot on the line. So yeah, you guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast wherever you may listen. Subscribe to the YouTube channel. We will go live tomorrow after the Bears at niner game. So buckle up for that one. And we will, we will talk soon. Let's start with what just happened tonight. I think we can put the packers on notice. They're, they're officially in major trouble. This season went from being bright the future of like they can win the Super Bowl. They have one of the best defense in the league. They're just rolling in the middle of the season to now in complete shambles. I mean, by the end of that game, their defense, a mass unit, Derrick Henry looked like he was in his absolute apex, in his prime, running for 200 yards. They couldn't get a stop to save their life. Meanwhile, their backup quarterback is just having an incredible game and they end up losing by multiple scores. So I, I think if you're a Packer fan, you're locked in on the seven seed. You're going, what the hell just happened to our season? You know, you made the playoffs again. You hold your head high, but a little bit like the Pittsburgh Steelers like you, you never lose, right? You never have one of those seasons where you win four or five games. But this season felt like it was going to be the year you make the trade for Micah Parsons. Everything looks like it's about to come up your way and you look up in the middle of this game and you can't get a stop to save your life. You have guys getting carted off the field left and right. You have an injury on the field that's so bad. Noah Eagle, who sounds exactly like his father, comes back from break and goes, guys, we cannot show you this injury, and you, you see their guy going in the cart in tears with an air cast, you go, holy moly. This is, this is not good for these guys. So I just, I'm at a loss a little bit because this was a team that I had bet on to not only make it to the super bowl, but I thought would win the Super Bowl. Then obviously, Micah Parsons going out the game against the Bears was kind of icing on the cake, right? You're up 16 to 6, you lose it. And coming into this game in a situation that wasn't really must win because the Lions had lost and they were officially eliminated. So the packers were in, but like, they still, I mean, technically the Bears could lose and the division was still there, and all of a sudden they couldn't. Just can't get in a stop and you're playing a backup quarterback. I mean, how many yards did Tyler Huntley throw for tonight? I bet, Yeah, I was going to guess 95 through 407. So they have no passing game. It was just run, run, run. Meanwhile, you're looking at John Harbaugh. You're like, last week, Derek Henry looked pretty good, and then he doesn't play at the end of the game, what were you doing? You're like, well, the rotations are, you're the head coach. Like, that was unacceptable. And clearly it was like they overcompensated tonight and made sure that they gave him the ball just over and over and they, they gave him 36 carries. I mean, they ran the ball 53 times. Now, some of those were Huntley scrambles, but just, just a dominant, I mean, 53 rushes for 300 yards, they average almost. If you run for over 50 times in a game and your average per carry is 5.8, you are shredding the opposing defense at Lambeau to get embarrassed like that, especially when, let's face it, I mean, one of the defining aspects of this team the last couple years has been the defensive side of the ball, has been their defensive coordinator, Jeff Athlete, who many consider one of the top candidates this offseason to become a head coach. And they just got obliterated. And it felt like their season kind of unofficially ended tonight. Now, I, I, I do think there is a scenario. There's a lot to play out with the NFC seating over the next couple weeks. I mean, the only thing we know for sure is that in some version of the Panthers or Tampa Bay, we'll be hosting what I would bet on will be the Sunday morning game on Fox. Come, come two weeks in that wild card round. But Eagles, Bears, Seattle, Rams, 49ers. I mean the seatings, you just, you know, the Eagles are going to get a home game, but Seattle, the rams and the 49ers can end up in multiple spots and same, you know, Chicago is going to end up either one or two. But I just look at this Packer team and go that they feel like one and done. Now if they played the Bears in that first round, there is a scenario where that thing could get weird just because everybody and their mother would be picking the Bears. It'd be a weird feeling for Bears fans being the overwhelming favorite against a rival who's owned you until they didn't own you in that crazy comeback game. And now you win the division and now you host them their season line. Some people say Matt LaFleur, like the Matt LaFleur contract extension situation is kind of the elephant in the room. At the same time I'm watching Malik Willis. Malik Willis is everything that Twitter told you that Justin Fields was, but he actually isn't. And that's what Malik Willis is now. He probably had one of the best games of his career. But we've watched him now two weeks in a row. One coming off the bench looked just like he did tonight, where he got a full week of prep where he was incredible. Derek Henry and Malik Willis were the best two players on the field. And honestly, it wasn't even close. I mean Derek Henry is going right to the hall of Fame. He's truly one of the great bell cow, you know, just, just horses the league has ever seen. Literally physically, I don't, you know, beside Adrian Peterson and back in the day, like Earl Campbell, there's aren't running backs that size. But I was just, I was blown away by Malik Willis and a lot of people online were like how much money he's going to get. What's going to happen? Justin Fields, who just listen I, I was wrong. I love Justin Fields coming out of college. Turns out he's just not a good quarterback. He's benched right now with the jets, right. Got two years and $40 million. 30 of it was guaranteed. No one would argue. Not a gm, not a coach, not a fan, that Malik Willis. So you can go less of a sample size. But I've just watched him last year he dramatically better this year. Comfortable in environments, in the cold, off the bench. Like I would say that would be the minimum someone would sign him for would be that two for 20. Young guy, high character, physically obese, can run Honestly, do you know what I was thinking tonight to defend my guy, Brock Purdy a little bit is everyone's like, well what the hell's the difference, Mac Jones? Like if we're going to have that argument, not me, but it's gone around, people have talked about it and listen, I understand where it comes from. It's, it's low hanging fruit. Why is no one having the argument like Jordan Love or Malik Willis? Because Malik Willis brings an element with his legs where he is an outstanding runner and clearly like his instincts as a runner on the one kind of, you know, on the, on the give or keep play, he keeps the ball, they all bite and he just walks to the end zone. I mean he had two touchdown runs. The other one was nice too. His throws, like throwing over the middle of the field, the touch on the outside routes, the poise in the pocket from just like breaking tackles to stepping up in the pocket, just absolutely blown away. So again, if Justin fields could get two years and 40 million, Malik Willis 100% can. If I was representing Malik Willis, if the numbers weren't, didn't just start at those numbers, I would hang up the phone and it wouldn't shock me at all if someone gave gives them like two years, $50 million his offseason because of the small sample size. Obviously a, a long term contract would be risky, but I would be stunned if Malik Willis like he's not gonna be on the packers next year. They just can't afford to keep them. And there are enough teams. I mean the Raiders are in absolute shambles. We'll dive into them in a second. The Miami Dolphins literally just benched the guy $50 million. They might have some financial, they might have financial flexibility to sign them. The Arizona Cardinals are clearly getting out of the Kyler Murray business now. I'm pretty sure he's still on the books next year for I think close to $40 million. So there are a lot of some of these teams with some quarterback issues that the financial flexibility, we'll have to keep an eye on that. But we know the cap can be manipulated pretty easily. And the other elephant in the room going for Malik Willis's as of right now, we'll have to see. With Dante Moore at Oregon, there only looks like one viable quarterback getting drafted high and that would be Mendoza from Indiana. Again, assuming he comes out. Pretty sure everyone just assumes he's going to. So if Mendoza is in the draft and he goes one, well, there are going to be some other teams that are drafting high that don't have a quarterback that are going to want a guy. And remember the, unlike the NBA, in the NFL, free agency comes before the draft. So this guy would be signed in the middle of March, right in. The draft's not till the end of April. But right now, to me, I, if I had to guess, I would say two years, $50 million with like $35 million guaranteed. That's how much money Malik Willis made himself in the last five days. Because no one, you know, whether you have, you know, a bias, you hate the packers, whether you just like football. If you just watched him play the last two weeks, you'd be like, that's a good player. I see all these people. There aren't 32 quarterbacks better than him. 32 quarterbacks. I mean, there are 10 guys that start that suck. 32 quarterbacks. There's like 15 good players in the league. And some of those good players are kind of playing like crap right now. I watched Jared Goff the other night. What the hell is this? You know, I mean, Malik Willis, the, the Minnesota vikings would, Kevin O' Connell would like sell a pinky toe to have JJ McCarthy ever look like that. I mean, that's, that was, I'm blown away. I mean, all night long I kept going, how is this possible? Just how, how good naturally was in the pocket, scrambling around. And the other thing is sometimes you see with quarterbacks, you know, guys like him, this is a Fields thing, they start scrambling around, their eyes go down, they start running into sacks. His eyes are up. He's like, you know, scrambling to the side, staying behind the line of scrimmage to make throws. He has a great feel and like scramble drills for where his, his, his wide receivers are going. So again, I mean, Derek Henry, rightfully so, will probably be the headline runs for over 200 yards and four touchdowns. But I would put it right behind it Malik Willis. And to me, Malik Willis kind of had his Philip Rivers moment. Like on Monday night. Malik Willis played to win the game. Like he played winning football. It was his defense's fault. And that's the type defense where in. I don't care whether it's 2025 or 1979, if your defense doesn't play well, you have no shot to win in the college football playoffs and definitely to win in the NFL playoffs, you have none. And listen, this isn't all their fault. They have a bunch of injuries. Like you can't out scheme random backups. And they're at the point now where they just got a mash unit and they play a team like the Bears, you know, they play the 49ers. All these teams have good offensive players that they would just get absolutely shredded. And Malik Willis at least gives them hope because he can do both pass and run around. Now, I would expect Jordan Love, when he clears concussion protocol to get elevated and thrown back in there, but I think the way their team is set up right now, you could argue Malik Willis because the other thing, and they kept mentioning this on the broadcast, they can't run the ball. They had 79 yard rushing and Malik Willis had 60 of it. So Jacobs is clearly banged up. Emmanuel Wilson had three carries for 16 yards and like his running threat is really kind of balances out their offense. So I think if you're a Packer fan, you're just kind of looking right now at the wall going, what the. How. What. What just happened? And it all started when that injury with Micah Parsons laying there on the ground. Season kind of pivoted right then because the moment that happened, the Broncos flipped a switch and we haven't really looked back since. Now, ironically, they did play well in the first three quarters and ten minutes of that Bears game, but then it all slipped away. So it does feel like the last, I don't know, 15 minutes of the Bears game kind of defines that entire game, even though they played pretty well in that game. And a large part of that was Malik Willis with the beautiful touchdown pass, who, who was excellent in that spot off the bench. So the packers are now officially the seven seed. They're going to be a massive underdog, I would guess, potentially like around a touchdown, depending whether they play the Rams, whether they play, you know, the Bears, I guess, the Eagles. Possible, I guess. I mean, most people are going to assume the Eagles are going to lose to Buffalo and probably get defined as that number three seed so that they wouldn't play the Eagles in the first round. But I think the backers, unlike a couple years ago when they went to Dallas and had the big upset, this does not feel like that at all. Doesn't even feel possible. Partly because their defense in shambles and offensively it just. It's just weird. And I, I would still extend Matt LaFleur. It's definitely going to be a conversation that comes up. I mean, what he's done with Malik Willis, like you get credit for that. And the other reality is if you were to, I guess, fire LaFleur, your, to me, your best option then would just be elevating Halfley. But you'd have to understand lafleur would immediately get hired. I mean, there are so many jobs that would be open. I think he would be a lock to get hired yesterday. I think he would immediately be hired by the Titans. I think the Giants would have to be, like, on drugs to not be all over him again. Assuming that, you know, Mike Tomlin's kind of quieted everybody. And it's not one of those, like, oh, it's just the narrative. The same old, same old with Mike. Mike Tomlin. Part of it is this. The. The. The Steelers put out, like, a month ago when they were in shambles. Schefter starts putting out the details to his contract. Like, you know, they're not going to fire him, but they would trade him. Like, it's. That's coming from the Steelers right now. Maybe he shuts them up. What about John Harbaugh? I mean, this Lamar situation's weird. I didn't even quite realize this. We were just talking about it before we press record the story that came out about them. You know, this information about, I guess, him. Yeah, I just saw the headline about him playing video games late at night. Clearly, the Ravens aren't thrilled. Where do you think that information comes from? Probably not Lamar's people, so. And that. That's what happens when you lose. People start backstabbing each other, you know. Did you know Dan Campbell takes a lot of shit? Like, what about John Harbaugh? John Harbaugh a couple years ago had the best team in the league, and he's a Super bowl champion. And now a couple years later, I mean, if the. If the Steelers just take care of business here and, you know, less than, I don't know, 15 hours, where they're a favorite against the Browns, who are fucking terrible, you're going to miss the playoffs. So that's. That's pretty embarrassing. And let's face it, you're not even close to these other playoff teams, it feels like. Right. So I. I just think Harbaugh's a guy to kind of keep an eye on. That thing's gotten weird and gotten weird fast, even with the win tonight. But, well, that's. That's. You don't get much credit. If the Steelers win, your season's over before you even play the last game of the season, which was against the Pittsburgh Steelers, which we all thought, like, three weeks ago was going to probably be like, Sunday night, Winner wins the division. Just huge rivalry. Tomlin versus Harbaugh. Now the game might not even matter. The Steelers are going to be playing Mason Rudolph against Snoop Huntley. So a lot happening. And then the earlier game, like I said, I came from lunch, walked into this bar, you know, it was weird. I kind of got drunk in the middle of the day and then, you know, sobered up by about dinner time. Drunk would be strong, but I had, you know, three or four cocktails. You kind of lose track of the days and like, is this is every day just like a Saturday? Even though today technically is Saturday and they're up 14 nothing. I'm like, I have to like, kind of scratch my eyes. I'm like, this really. The Texans are up 14 nothing. You know, I go look at the highlights, you know, on Twitter. I mean, he just threw two bombs and you get a 14 nothing. Lead with that defense, they're going to be in major trouble. Now listen, the end of the game, the pass interference or the defensive holding or whatever, the, the penalties in general in the NFL on defensive backs late in games are just embarrassing. They really are. And they are consistently defensive holding, defensive pass interference, you know, illegal touching, I, I, these, It's, it's already impossible to play that position. No one's allowed to get touched physically going across the middle. We have something called defenseless receivers. No, guys, it's football. They're not defenseless. They know when they're running a crossing route or a dig route or just anything over the middle of the field. There are other defenders, their, their jobs literally to tackle them and hit them, but you're not allowed to really do that anymore. Now, I, I, I can't just do anything to you. And the play call, I, I'm not saying, obviously that impacted the game greatly, but I, I, I just think that call is consistently made. Someone asked me, I have a buddy who is a baseball player for, I'm not going to give away his team, but he's, he's in a certain team's organization. He was texting me. One of his good buddies plays on a, on a pretty good NFL team, and he's like, his buddy was texting like, the officiating this year feels worse than ever. And like, I just kind of thought of this because he's like, why do you think? And I'm like, well, I do wonder. We used to have a group of guys. I, I don't want to say they were famous, but they were just kind of household names as officials. And listen, officiating is hard to begin with, but I feel like through the 90s, the 2000s, it was kind of the same core group of guys. It does feel like a Lot of them have retired and they've hired a lot of new guys. Clearly you don't get paid that much to be a, to be a NFL referee. I, I would say the group in general is as shitty as it's ever been. And I, I, I do think they're coached up to when all else fails. Call it on the defense, call it on the defense. And that, that just consistently happens all around the league. Let alone a game that, you know, the Chargers had, would have had an opportunity to win the division next week. Now do I think they would have? No. Now you'd say, well, what about the Broncos the other night? I, I don't know. I mean, game was a little weird. There's no doubt about it. I mean, they, the Chiefs had under 100 yards of offense. I think the, the dude who they couldn't stop telling me he's like Patrick Mahomes best friend. Like, we get it, he's throwing for like 50 yards in this game. But yeah, I mean that was, that was a rough loss for the Chargers. But at the same time, like you get down 14, nothing against a team like that with that much patch rush and just that ability to cover. Even though Justin Herbert made some great plays with his legs too. Yeah, I just, I think the Texans, I've been saying it forever, they're a team that no one's going to want to mess with. And if they can get some explosive plays on offense, especially in the passing game with that defense, it would not shock me to look up and they're in the AFC championship game. Now as someone that has a ticket on them to win the division, I really hope that the Colts, somehow, I don't know how they would have any motivation. Maybe it's just because of Philip Rivers can upset the Jags Now, I don't feel that's going to happen. So I do think the Texans are just going to end up as the wild card. But for a team that started 0 and 3, like kind of a defining year for the Texans brass, for d', Amico, for Nick Casario, like that was just a high level operation like that. That was the type thing that we might look back five years when they've just been consistently good for a while. That's like what the packers do, what the Steelers do, why they never lose. Like when you're 03, you can kind of crater. And that, that speaks to the character in that locker room. Obviously the talent they have on defense was carried him most of the season. You know, C.J. has, I always had an up and down season, but he's made some big plays when he had to. And I, I just think the Texans are really good, really well coached. They have like a physical chip on their shoulder mentality, the way they play. The other thing is when you make a pretty bold move, which they did, they took CJ number two and then they traded back up from 12 to three to get will Anderson. You better fucking be right on that one. And they, they weren't just right. I mean they, they hit a home run on that pick. And as a buddy in the league sent me the, the list of the guys that the Cardinals drafted, let's just say that was a win for the Texans. And the other thing that's, you know, a big picture for us like draft guys is they have the Commander second round pick because of the Larry McTunzel trademark. So that pick has a pretty good chance to be in the 30s. So the Texans are going to make the playoffs with their pick in the first round, which let's just say is in the early 20s. Who knows? I mean that pick could be 28. They might have picked 28 and pick 37. So they've, because of the Will Anderson trade, you know, I think the depth on their team is definitely not as good. But they gave up a first rounder, right? And I think they gave up like a first and a second rounder to move up to make that trade on top of pick 12, which whenever you trade pick 12 to get up to three and then future stuff, you pick 12 just becomes pick three. So you basically just swap. It's. What else did you give up? And I think it was a second round pick and the following year's first round pick. That's impactful like that, that hurts you. I saw with the 49ers, right? It's like last year when they ran out of juice like. Well, yeah, they've been missing first round picks for years because of the Trey Lance trade. Get ready. Colts fans like you dismissed the playoffs and you don't have a first round pick for the next two years. Like that is. I mean if you lose these next two games, that is a massive win for the Jets. All of a sudden you look up and that, that pick is, you know, pick 15. So all of a sudden the jets have the third pick and the 15th overall pick. Now they've had that before and they took Sauce Gardner or Garrett Wilson. They still sucked. So just because you have picks, it doesn't guarantee you anything. You got to have a quarterback or else you Got no shot. And you could argue even if you're just the jets, you got no shot. But that's a conversation for a different day. So basically today the packers are the seven seed, the Ravens e the Steelers to lose. Denver wins the west for the first time in nine years. Not just Denver, but anyone. The Chiefs have dominated that division and the Texans are in and the Colts are officially out. I, I saw someone posted this that like when the, when The Colts were 8 and 2. I don't know what the, the Texans record was at the time, but I don't think it was great because they had, had had the slow start. They had a, I think over 80% chance to win the division and now they missed the playoffs where, you know, multiple teams in their own division are going to make the playoffs. It's a pretty big kick in the dick. And we talked about this the other day, that when you, when you make a move like that, you better be sure. But you can never be sure because this is not, this is not Apple, you know, this is not a company where you're producing a product. You're dealing with human beings. And at any moment a leg can break, an Achilles can go, a calf can go, other people can get injured. I mean, hell, their quarterback broke his leg and tore his Achilles on top of Sauce getting injured, Charvarius having a, you know, a million concussion issues and all of a sudden your season just crumbles. So it's just a, it's just while it's a great year for Houston, d' Amco gave a sweet kind of fiery speech in the locker room. I love Demiko Ryan's. The Colts gotta be like, what the hell? And you know, Carly's been on the sideline taking notes. Listen to everything can be fascinating to see what happens because she, she's been, you know, that family's been pretty loyal to Chris and at the end of the day, like it's, it's a result oriented business and their results just have not equaled success, but they have not made the playoffs. Meanwhile, other teams in their division are going to the playoffs constantly. So I mean, the Jags turned it around like that. 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If you watch the Houston Texans game, I would argue that Max Crosby was the best player on the field. Like in. In the game with a team full of star players. I think the Houston Texans have. I think they showed five guys going to the Pro Bowl So it's like they got a high end group of players and that doesn't even include their quarterback. And the best player on the field that day was Max Crosby. And they said, we're shutting you down. And if you're the Raiders, like no one really tanks in the NFL until like right now. You don't suck all season long to then win the last couple games. It's completely pointless, especially when you don't have a quarterback, when you're going to have a lot of movement this off season. It is the right move because Max Crosby against the Giants and this version of the, of the Chiefs could literally single handedly win them a game. I mean he was trying to do that against the Texans, who are probably a 12 win team. So you tell them, listen, we're sitting you down. It's the right move by the organization. And do you know what you want out of a player? And I've been told this by countless people in the league And John Spytek said this last year before the season when he came on, they love Max Crosby. He is literally everything you would want in an NFL player from a worth work ethic standpoint, from a love of the game standpoint, from a loyalty to the franchise standpoint. He like loves the Raiders for some reason, right? I mean I, I, no one would blame any player if they're like, I want out of an organization like this. And he's kind of done the opposite now. He's been compensated, but he is as I would say, as bought into a team as anyone in the league for his effort and his energy for a team that never does anything. And you know, a lot of times the Raiders had Cleo Mack. He's like, well, if you can't pay me, get fucking rid of me. See, you couldn't, couldn't get out of there fast enough. Amari Cooper did the same thing, Max. A lot like Derek Carr. They were very, very loyal to the Raiders brand, which, let's face it, is a little abnormal in the Internet era. And I, I do think you got to ask yourself, so listen, I, I admire, just like I'm sure the Raiders admire, like, I, I do not, not want to play. And he was, I, I saw a clip where he said this and I don't blame him. Like, I don't care about a draft pick. How would he care about a draft pick? He was on the team when they had a top 10 pick and they took the pass rusher from Texas Tech, who's terrible. He, he's seen guys get drafted High and stink. He's seen random guys. He is one that gets drafted on the third day and become good. Play a draft pick for the Raiders doesn't mean. So he's like, yeah, you could tell me Fernando Mendoza is the best player in the draft. We could get him. And it doesn't equal more wins for us. It doesn't guarantee anything. So I understand his mindset too. So I, I think both teams I saw Ted Nguin. Who Rice for the athletic. Barry guy, big Raider fan, said it perfectly. He tweeted it out like both can be correct. Max and the Raiders are both right on this. Now I also think you need to ask yourself this. I do think this off season has kind of come to a fork in the road. Like he still has a lot of value and this situation is not apples to apples because this guy wanted a huge contract and the Chiefs were hesitant to give him one and they traded them. But when Jared Allen, who had become a star in 07 and he kind of became at a contractual impasse, got traded to the Minnesota Vikings, it changed his career forever. Went to a high level organization and then ended up becoming a Hall of Famer and played in a bunch of big games. And I do think Max, this off season one could net them multiple first round picks. To me, the, the minimum would be like two ones and a three. And this is a guy, it's not like he's a 24 year old guy, he's 28 years old, but he's that good. He's durable. He, I mean he's been hurt all year. He doesn't miss any games. He sober like several years ago. So he doesn't drink, doesn't party, gets in no trouble. He's honestly, he's an all in guy. You can't ask for anything more. He's honestly, I would say most people in the NFL like one of their favorite players because he represents everything that you want from a guy, right? The effort level which you, oh well, you paid a lot of money. You should play hard. You know, football can be very hit or miss, especially with guys of that position take plays off on a shitty team. He never does. So I think this off season, you know, I, I follow a lot of like 49er accounts on Instagram. Mark Davis would do a belly flop off the Golden Gate bridge before he ever traded in the 49ers. The 49ers would never be able to acquire Max Crosby. Now I don't think they would trade him into the afc. So I think the nfc, which is also full of teams that would be very, very interested. Right. I think the Eagles would be all over. I think the Bears would be all over. I think the Lions would have to contemplate it very, very strongly. He's a Michigan guy. They need defensive help. You pair him up with Hutchinson now, you just got a dynamic pass rush. I think there are so many teams in the NFC that I think would bid heavily for Max Crosby services. And I think if you're the Raiders at this point in time, you have two goals right now. Lose out. Now, I also think the Chiefs are lingering. Like, if I'm Andy Reid at this point, I'm trying to. If you lose or. Excuse me. Yeah, you lose to the Giants, meaning you are in the driver's seat to get the number one overall pick. I'm trying to ruin it for you. I'm trying to ruin your season, you know, And I would imagine that you just throw out Okalanu or whatever the guy's name is. You might not even have to try that. Or. I mean, he's just. He's just not that good. And at this point in time, the Chiefs just aren't that good. So that's part of the reasoning, to not put Max out there because he plays every game like it's a Super Bowl. And in a game like that, where, you know, Chris Jones by then could be doing 1, 2, 3, Cancun, wouldn't even blame him. You know, Kelsey, they basically did his retirement tour the other night, which I understand why they hyped it up so much. Like, felt like his last home game ever, which I also admire that. Like, he probably knows it. Just didn't say anything like, this isn't. I'm not doing some tour. I'm a team guy first. It's why we've won. This isn't about me. He had a big final drive that got him in position to almost have a chance to win it, but that was another thing. Like, Denver, kind of a weird team, right? They playing a lot of weird games. They really do. Now, Bo had the big touchdown run, I think, at the end of third quarter, obviously the fantastic final drive where he hit Harvey in the back of the end zone for the touchdown, which was a great play as well. But he had a bunch of big throws on that drive. Kind of got just a little clutch thing going toward him. Even though he can have stretches in the game. You're like, God, this guy looks awful. But. And listen, it's not, you know, apples to apples because they had Patrick Mahomes But a couple years ago, when they beat who they be, they beat the 49ers. That year, I think they were 11 and 5. The Chiefs did not have a great season. They had a lot of weird games. Hell, even last year when they made the super bowl, they had a lot of weird games. So now Denver does not have the track record, but they've had a bunch of weird games for a team that more than likely is going to be the number one overall seat. So just a bizarre. My wife kept saying, like, wait, the Ravens aren't in the playoffs. The Chiefs aren't in the playoffs either. Like, what's going on? I'm like, yeah, it's a weird year. It really is. And we know every year, and we've talked about this, that every year, several teams, I think on average, like four teams that made the playoffs the previous year missed the playoffs. But I would say the Ravens, they were the betting favorite coming into the season to win the Super Bowl. Them and the Buffalo Bills. And more than likely, they're going to miss the playoffs. Right? The Chiefs had been to five of the last six Super Bowls, and they're probably going to go six and 11. So it just. It's just a bizarre year. And it's the NFL. And I think for the first time, I was playing golf with some buddies. You know, it's like 70 degrees here. So you get out in the morning in shorts and a collared shirt, and I was sweating my whole three for those of you guys in. In frigid conditions. But my buddy, my buddy Jeff Fong, he goes like, who do you think is going to win the Super Bowl? And I'm like, Honestly, of the 14 teams we've been talking about this that are going to make the playoffs, I do think you can make a legit case for like, 10 of them, like, to win the super bowl, definitely to win their conference, right? You would take the. The Panthers or the Bucks. Everyone is going to pick them to lose in the first round. And the packers now feel like they have no shot to win the nfc. But I think you could make a case for all three NFC west teams, the 49ers, we're gonna really see what they're made of tomorrow night against a much better Bears team than the teams they've been playing. Obviously, you know, Seattle and the Rams, the Bears and the Eagles. Listen, they've had a weird year, but they got a lot of good players. And then you look at the afc, Denver, New England. I mean, Jacksonville, what they just did to Denver it's like to me they're a legitimate AFC contender. Houston, Buffalo's got Josh Allen. The Chargers feel a little bit unlikely but it's like you know, Jim Harbaugh, Justin Herbert, like they can take down anyone in a given game and you know, we'll see the Pittsburgh interest to see what they got. But very, very excited. Pretty good day of football tomorrow. Definitely got a couple big games right? Buffalo, Philly. Now I'm fired up for that one. And obviously the night game 49ers against the Bears. That's, that's, that's an awesome Sunday night game. Sunday night. You know, tomorrow's probably Monday nights. The. The Rams playing Atlanta which, which isn't great but might not matter as much for the Rams depending on what happens tomorrow. A couple things before we get out of here. My, my friends at Hard Rock bet I There are three games that I love Seattle or Carolina. One their record with Mike McDonald through two years. I think they're 13 and two on the road this year they're six and one. They have been a dominant road team. I also don't think Carolina matches up well against them. You know you watch Carolina last week against Tampa. Tampa's defense is atrocious. Can't cover anybody, can't rush the passer. Bryce is running around making plays. I, I think Seattle that goes hey, we win next two weeks we are the number one overall seed. We just beat the Rams last week. Were coming off that mini buy. It's a lot of points but I'm going to take Seattle -7 in this game. I'm a little nervous. Divisional games can get weird. We just saw it Kansas City, Denver. But I do think the Browns are terrible. You know last week Jud Kids breaks his leg. He's was just a dominant, you know, young player for them. So you remove him, you get Pittsburgh with the just goes we win this game, this thing's over and we don't have to think about next week. Now the guy that leads their team in targets lead their team in yards. Losing DK is not ideal especially given their wide receiver room isn't exactly like Antonio Brown and Plaxco Burris are walking through that door. But I'm just going to take Rogers and Tomlin in this spot which can be a little weird. You know, road, you know, big favorites, divisional game like it's you like Tomlin is like the home dog. But I, I'm taking Pittsburgh minus three and a half in this game. Basically just I'm shorting the Browns and I'm just kind of taking the mojo going into, like, let's just end this thing and win this game. Even though, like they got suspensions. I think T.J. watts still out, a little nervous now. This game I don't like. I love if there was still like five or six weeks remaining in the season, I do think the Saints could win the division. I don't even think it's debatable. Right now the Saints are the best team in that division and Tyler Schuck, who I've seen some people say if we did a redraft with Tyler Schuck number one overall, I don't know if that's true, but there is no disputing that. Like, if you just watch Tyler Schuck play over the last month and you like watch Cam Ward play, you go like, I don't see that big of a gap now. Cam's actually made some plays over the last couple of weeks. Looked a lot better now and he's played the Chiefs in the 49ers. But Tyler Schuck's been really good. The Saints just look like solid and you know, Tennessee's coming off big win, beat the shit out of the Chiefs. But I like the Saints on the road minus two and a half. Like Tyler Schuck trained to just keep on rolling and Kellen Moore to kind of end the season. All of a sudden you're going to look up. It's like, wait, the Saints just went 7 and 10. I thought they were like a three win team. It's like, no, they got Tyler Shuck, baby. And kind of kind of go into this offseason with the feeling pretty good about their quarterback situation. So we will see Everybody in about 24 hours. Hopefully everyone enjoys some NFL football tomorrow and we will talk soon. Adios.
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