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The Herd with Colin Cowherd
3 & Out - Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins DEMOLISHED by Lamar Jackson, Ravens on TNF
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Bernie Sanders
All right, are you ready for another question?
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.
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Katie Couric
We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Bernie Sanders
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing outstanding out there in the real world, living life like Mike McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins, who just got bludgeoned on Thursday Night Football, 28 to 6 at home by the Baltimore Ravens, who look like they're kind of on fire. Win a couple games in four days, get Lamar back and dominate, throws a bunch of touchdowns. That was a. That was a bloodbath. Now the question is, is Mike lose his job. And if the Pittsburgh Steelers win, are the Ravens really going to win this division? Rough night for Al Michaels. And we'll hit on a couple other things. It's Fugazi Friday, so I got a couple of Fugazi's. One involves candy and the other involves a goat. And we'll also do Stuckey. He will be joining us as he does every Friday, talk about the NFL, talk about the league from a gambling perspective. All of our bets presented by Hard Rock and. And yeah, so we'll go over that. We'll do a little college at the end, but. But a lot of NFL. Other than that, you guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast wherever you may listen. Also, if you're on YouTube, which I know everyone is because I see the amount of people that watch YouTube, make sure you subscribe three and out. Type in my name. Subscribe. You'll never miss anything. We go live after all the primetime games. Do content all throughout the week. I got a migraine, an awful one. The other I don't get. I get a couple a year and it was like I was in shambles. So I didn't do a podcast for record on Wednesday for Thursday. So I recorded the Mailbag today and we'll put one out this weekend. So probably put that out Saturday morning, get a little weekend mail back. So I tried to answer some of you guys questions, but first, you know, I got to tell you about my friends, my partners, game time. Here's the thing. Do you guys want to go to a game? Do you guys want to go to a football game? Do you want to go to a college game? Do you want to go to a pro game? Do you want to go watch your team? Well, there is not an app that makes it easier. You can find tickets for as low as $100. When you see the prices on the app, that is the actual price. There's no adding the fees later. That is the actual price you will pay for the tickets. They got flash deals. You can search by the venue, you can search by the team, obviously. Concerts, comedy shows, you name it. It does not get any easier to go watch a football game. So take the guesswork out of buying professional football tickets with game time. Download the GameTime app, create an account and use the code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase terms apply. Again, create an account, redeem the code John. That's Johen for $20 off. Swipe, tap, ticket. Go download the Gametime app today. Okay, let's start with this game because I actually don't think there's much to take away from this game at all in terms of like on the field to place. Lamar looked really good, dominated in the red zone. The Ravens definitely feel like they have life. And the Miami Dolphins took that short lived ass kicking that they gave and handed out to the Atlanta Falcons. Feel like it was more than four days ago because I was like, did that just happen? It's like, yeah, they were just up 31 to 3 literally on Sunday afternoon. It's on Thursday. But it does feel like they resorted right back, played a real team, playing the Ravens, who obviously are playing for something and just got shellacked. So to me the simple question is, is it time? Should Mike McDaniel lose his job? And listen, I would never feel comfortable saying a guy should or shouldn't, you know, have a job. This is how people pay for their families. Feel less bad inside when you're talking about a guy making 6, 7, 8 million dollars who's clearly over his head. This team is falling apart. And listen, it's not all his fault, but I think if you're Steven Ross, now's the time to blow this thing up. Obviously there has been speculation about does the GM have, you know, some dirty laundry on the guy and makes it difficult to not, you know, relieve him of his duties. But there's no way you could hire another coach with that guy at gm. So if you're going to fire him, you got to fire them both. And remember, it kind of happened with Robert Sala and then Joe Douglas last year. If I remember correctly, it was off a couple weeks. To me, now's the time to do it both. And the Miami Dolphins. I think the big picture question mark is can this franchise be saved? And I think there is one consistent theme to this team and I think it's kind of like the jets, you know, the jets and the Dolphins right now are complete embarrassment. Things constantly change, coaches, players, but one thing doesn't the ownership. And they showed. Stephen Ross tonight looked like talking to a son or something. This franchise is just a joke. I mean, it really is. And the one thing that they are like the Atlanta Falcons, like the New Orleans Saints, they're in this southern world where college reigns supreme and most of the best programs beside Ohio State are located in that region. And I've always wondered, theorize a little bit, is it hard to sustain when people care more about college football down there? And I was thinking watching this tonight, is there a worse atmosphere in the entire league than where Miami Dolphin their home stadium Right. I mean think about their division. Like when the Patriots are rolling, that place is rocking. Obviously the Bills are elite. Even if the jets were ever good, the New York fans, like, I just don't think anyone cares. And maybe it's just because they've been bad for a long time. I guess they made the playoffs a couple years ago, but down the stretch they were not very fun to watch. Neither one of those seasons, they peaked early. And there's just something about this franchise that seems off to me. So even if I answer my own question, so they fire if I say, yeah, fire everybody in the building. Who's taking this job? Who are you getting? Because to me, if you hire the next up and coming coordinator, nothing's going to change. I mean that's what's been happening. Mike McDaniel, Adam Gase, this is a job. The only chance you have for success and football survival would be to kind of get a crazy ass veteran coach. You're going to need to come in here and kind of drop the hammer because whatever has been happening down there not only is not working, it's an unwatchable product most weeks. Obviously the investment into TUA is a debacle. I mean he's not like some all time scrub. He's obviously a starting quarterback in the NFL, but you can't win with that. And then the way they built the team, going back with a bunch of little players and you watch them against the Ravens that look like I want to say varsity, you say jv, I would say varsity versus like the peewee team, the junior high team. So I think this is the type situation of like you're going to need ideally last year, Mike Vrabel, that's the type guy you need a no nonsense, no bullshit hard discipline guy because you keep going with these offensive, innovative, up and coming coordinators, you got no shot. And obviously you need a GM and people with a vision to build a team down in the south beach because it's clearly hard. You have things going up against you, right? I mean from the weather to the women to the, to do. The, the Bills have a huge, the packers, they have massive advantages over you. They can pay the same amount of money, but they don't have to worry about their guys Monday through Friday, a lot less for them to do and screw up around. And clearly there is a focus issue. I mean this is a situation. I have been saying this about Thursday night games. I don't really judge you on the outcome. If you would have told me the Ravens won this game like 17 to 13. I'd be like, hey, short week on the road, congratulations, you move on. There's one, there's no style points in the NFL, but there are definitely, I mean it's October 30th, we're in week eight, nine. Like once you get midway through the season and on a Thursday night road game is just a win and get out of there. It's like, it's like college basketball survive in advance. Yet the Ravens came in short week. Now granted the quarterback had some fresh legs, hadn't played, came in and looked like this is, this was game one. So I listen the Dolphins, I was thinking like could they go college? It's like well even Lane Kiffin and Sark and Ryan like those guys are offensive guys. Like to me this franchise probably needs a defensive guy. I think the last time they had any success in the playoffs, wasn't it Dave wanted defensive guy. You know, Bill Parcels was there for a minute, Tony Soprano, I know he was an offensive line coach, but the old school mentality, I, I, I just don't think this innovative soft upand coming young guy, they have no chance, I mean none. So when you blow this thing up. Listen, I, I've already seen some of these rumors like Rex Ryan for example. And I'm not, I just use that name because it comes up. But some of these, you know, if Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers like to me he would be a guy something like that. But I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole an offensive guy. And to a first time head coach because whoever they hire, he could be the sexiest name the next Kevin o'. Connell. The next like you put Ben Johnson Miami, I'd be out like he's got no shot, zero, none, zilch. So I just think the Dolphins are you know a franchise for older people that used to be kind of just a legendary, you know, brand right? In the 70s they were big time. Obviously with Dan Marino they just mattered in the league and they just feel like they don't matter and they have no identity and their coach is completely over his head and this thing is just falling apart at the seams and the GM drafted sign just terrible players and even the good ones are like flawed players. And I just think you're, you're seeing this thing fall apart and it felt like the Ravens might have ended his tenure. So if, if Friday morning or this weekend would not shock me at all. And speaking of the Ravens, I think the last four days they've, they've kind of Said the Steelers. Because, listen, I was kind of out on them because I'm like, Pittsburgh's going to get to like 11 wins. And now I'm starting doing the math. Like, maybe they're not. Maybe the Steelers are not winning. Maybe Vegas, when they kept the Ravens as the favorite, knew what they were doing. Because I'm kind of on board. Because right now, if the Steelers played the Ravens ten times, I'm taking the Ravens eight and a half of those. Like, I mean, what you saw out of the Ravens tonight, an elite quarterback. And I get it, it's Miami, the team's not that good. But still short week. Derek Henry, look lively defensively. Kyle Hamilton, Kyle Van Noy flying around making plays. So, like, this is a team now that I thought tonight officially put the Pittsburgh Steelers on notice. And if you tell me the Pittsburgh Steelers lose this weekend against the Colts and have lost two weeks in a row to good teams, like, I'm out on them. I am simply out on them. This is a must win spot for Pittsburgh come Sunday, mainly because of this, because the team we've seen the last couple weeks, one with the backup quarterback four days ago, and then the Lamar version tonight, like, that's more the real Ravens team. And I just thought, like, hey, we've seen how bad these guys are playing. Listen, John Harbaugh is a $15 million coach for a reason. He's done this before. They've been flipped a switch. They've made personnel changes in the middle of the. In the year, tweaks that have worked year after year. And it feels like they've done that right now. And the way the Ravens team I'm watching looks like they're getting nine or 10 wins and looks like they could go on one of those runs. Damn. They just won, you know, eight of nine games. And we know the Steelers can't, but they definitely can if they lose this week. Because to me, if they do, like, this Ravens thing is real, and all of a sudden they went from one in five, they're three and five and they got momentum going this way. And you had the Steelers, who started whatever 4 and 1 and 5 and 2 or whatever the fuck their record is and they're there for. They were 4 and 1. Now they're 4 and 2. They could be 4 and 3. I think I'm screwing this up. Let me look this up. Kind of all amped up here. Standings. We got the Pittsburgh Steelers, who are 4 and 3. So if they lose this weekend, they're 4 and 4. And if the Cincinnati Bengals were to win, they'd also have four wins. So all of a sudden you'd be like, we had this great start, we had this huge lead, and now we look behind us and. And there are the Ravens with one less win, and there are the Cincinnati Bengals with the same amount of wins who obviously beat us a couple of weeks ago. So I think if you're a Ravens fan, you can take a deep breath. These last four days saved your season, and your season was only savable as long as the Steelers didn't win. And it turns out they did not win against the packers, they did not win against the Bengals. So they were 4 and 1. And now they got a chance to lose three straight games and all of a sudden be 4 and 4 and you're right behind them. And this is one of those races where it's like they had you lapped and now you're seeing their tail lights and now you're coming on them and you still play them a couple times. So I would like my chances. The other thing is, like, I just trust the Ravens down the stretch way more than I trust the Steelers. So this is a division that. Listen, I was wrong on a couple of weeks ago. I said this was crazy. But I don't see how you watch the Steelers the last couple of weeks and then watch the Ravens these last couple of weeks and just know the infrastructure. Like, one team's used to winning 12 to 14 games, the others used to scratching and clawing to get to nine or 10. And it does feel like they're headed back toward those paths. Now, obviously the Ravens aren't going to win 12 games this year, but right now they feel like they could go on a stretch of just rattling off some W's because you have that quarterback, you have that offensive firepower, and if their defense plays good, that was a problem. Their defense was atrocious if it's going to play good. And even tonight, like they were giving up yards, made some big things happen, created turnovers, got off the field on fourth down. Obviously the dude missed the kick early in the game, which was a big swing because then the Ravens went right down the field and scored. It's like a 14 point swing. But I think it's, I think it's fair to declare. Like, I don't want to say the Ravens are back because you're three and five, but the Ravens feel like tangibly real again. I love this guy. Al Michaels has been a huge part of my life. Anyone around my age or obviously older that has Been watching sports for decades. He's played a massive role in a lot of these events. And I mean, there are a couple guys, you know, Brett Musburger, Marv Albert, those type guys that when you're young and you first start watching games, it's a big deal, especially for those of us, you know, started watching games before we ever had cable in our house. So you had to be on network tv and these guys were stars. And Al Michaels is a legend. And it goes back to like the 70s when he was calling Pete Rose games with the Cincinnati Reds, to calling the hockey game in 1980, to obviously calling the NFL for a long time and working with John Madden and playing a major role in Sunday Night Football. But I think it's over. And a couple years ago, it could be longer than that. Now I remember watching games on TNT and thinking Marv Albert, like, couldn't tell what was going on. And obviously basketball, the pace of basketball is a lot different than football. It's much faster because it never stops. There's not a stop in the action between a miss and a fast break and pushing it back. So you really got to be on. But even tonight, like early in the game, there was a play where, where Al goes, oh, you just stopped a bit short. And it turned out it was like 4th and 5. It's like, can Al see? And I haven't noticed it as much, but I've heard buddies or people in the media talk about this. He's slipping and he's slipping hard. And listen, there's something to the name value of Marv Albert, of Al Michaels. And for a long period of time, that not only has mattered, that's been important. Like, those guys were the best in the business. But like an athlete, when a running back can no longer run or a pitcher can no longer throw strikes, it ends, it ends for everyone in the business. You know, coaches get fired, players get cut. And I think we're at the point where, you know, Al just needs to hang up the mic because I try not to be too negative when it comes to like legendary people, because I do respect it and I could never do look, just like most podcasters couldn't dream of what they do From a play by play standpoint in his heyday, how good he was and I was just a smooth cat. But at 80 years old calling these games, it does feel like if his fastball was much once, 100 miles an hour, it feels like he's throwing about 72 right now. And like it might take a second for the hitter to get adjusted from 100 to 72. But once they do, that thing's gone and it's, it's, it's ugly. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. Hard Rock Bet is the only sportsbook for whenever you're in Florida. It's also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado. Coming soon to more states near you, we're down to the final stretch of college football. 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Mike Florio
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
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Mike Florio
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, wait, wait. I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown. Not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
I wanted to hit on a couple more things for this upcoming weekend because we already mentioned Tomlin. There's a ton of pressure on him. I think he's at a fork in the road moment in his career because if he doesn't win this game, I think the season could go south for them. The Ravens win the division. If they don't make the playoffs, I have a hard time. Again, I don't think he's going to get fired. They never want to fire him thinking he's the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers in 2026. If you tell me that the Ravens end up winning the division and the Pittsburgh Steelers don't make the playoffs, I would bet that it would be over for him. Whether it's a trade, whether it's just a let him out of his contract, go to the Dolphins, the Giants, I would just imagine he would be a head coach for a different team. I think the Dolphins and the Giants would make a ton of sense and if I was him, I'd want a Fresh start, but clearly he doesn't. So we've talked about that over and over. But I think there are other guys with a ton on the line this weekend. One, Kevin O', Connell, is taking JJ McCarthy, who hasn't started a game in what feels like multiple months into the Detroit Lions, who are not only rolling, but sometimes when a guy gets thrown out, like, hey, I think we should look at Kelvin Shepard as our next head coach. You know, a former player. If he's like an assistant coach, it's like, well, it's just, is he a good one? Like, is this going to work? You're watching Kelvin Shepard, who's like team captain for lsu, super high level guy as a player and, and now is a badass defensive coordinator. Like there, there might be some, like, if Lane turned him down. If you told me Kelvin Shepard was the next head coach at lsu, I'd kind of believe you. There's a chance that Kelvin Shepard is a better defensive coach than Aaron Glenn. And I think we all agree over the last couple years, Aaron Glenn established himself as one of the better defensive coordinators. So they've had some guys in and out of the lineup in terms of injuries, but I think he's an elite defensive coordinator. And obviously, offensively, based on the way Minnesota's been playing, Detroit's going to score at home. This thing could unravel and unravel fast. And there's no going to the bullpen. Hey, Carson. JJ's kind of banged up. We're losing. Come on. Into the game in the second half, he's in the hospital. So all eyes are on J.J. mcCarthy especially. He's going back to Michigan, a place where he became, you know, a first round pick and took the team to the national championship, there is going to be a lot of eyeballs on this game. And one thing that's starting to really bother me is I mentioned this on a couple podcasts. If I'm repeating myself, I'm sorry, but Michael said this again during the game. I'm getting so tired of. We just don't have any patience anymore. Yes, there are certain things we don't have patience for anymore. We don't have the time. Why? Because there's too much money on the line. I'm about to have a child. I'm gonna have to have some patience for him when he's a young child. Why? He's got a long life. He has to learn some basic things like how to eat food and read. But when I draft a guy in the first round and I Have about three years to figure up, figure out if I'm going to pick up his fifth year option or if I'm going to find a way to pivot and my team's good. I don't have unlimited time. JJ's in year and a half. Is he getting three years? Maybe, maybe not. What if he just fucking blows and it's like, is he going to be the starter going into year three? Because I've seen in other places that's not how it works anymore. Times have changed. So, yeah, we used to have more patience when we weren't paying guys that much money when they were on long contracts. You have to decide immediately what's going to happen and what's not going to happen. Here's the other thing. You're charging, especially a place like Minnesota, a lot of money to be in these suites, to have these good seats. Like you're. You're asking people to give their time to watch you play. Their time is your most valuable assets, how you pay for everything. So when you suck, like, it's a problem. And especially given their situation, who he's replacing, who looks like he's taking Seattle to the playoffs. So there is a tangible pressure on J.J. mcCarthy. Not even debateal. Just like all these young quarterbacks, there's pressure on Caleb Williams to play well this year because next year is not guaranteed on the Bears. If you think I'm crazy for saying that, you just haven't been following the same league I've been following. It just. It is what it is. There's lack of patience in everything we do. That's just the way our society works now. So you either adapt to it or you just keep complaining about it. It's no different. My job, if I wasn't able to generate revenue and this podcast didn't get people to listen, this podcast wouldn't exist on the volume. This is pretty black and white. Most of these industries we all work in. And when you get drafted really high and you go to a good team, the expectations are pretty high. You don't get to just ease into things. So the pressure on J.J. mcCarthy this weekend is immense. I actually think there's some underrated pressure on the Bills because the Patriots clearly are not going away, and most of us expect them to play pretty well and probably beat the Atlanta Falcons. And if you just look at the Patriots schedule, like they're just going to end up winning 12, 13 games. Well, if you're the Bills, you've already dropped a couple, you've already lost the Patriots and you got to go play them in New England. Now, in theory, you got still got the better quarterback, you know, accomplished coach. It's not like you're going to be quote, unquote, underman when you're playing them. But you lose this Chiefs game, all of a sudden we look around and go, God, are we sure that they're going to win the division? And listen, two things. When I was gambling to do some parlays on division winners, I didn't even touch the Ravens or the Bills because their odds were so bad. And I thought they were just like, listen, I'm not even messing with that. I'd be stunning if they didn't win. But not even playing the Bills were like almost 4 to 1 favor to win. They were minus 400 to win the division. And you beat the Chiefs, who you've handled before in the regular season, you're still in good shape. You lose this game, all of a sudden they've beat you and you're one game behind them again, assuming they lose because they have another game where if they beat the Atlanta Falcons, like, let's face it, the Atlanta Falcons be 3 and 5 and all of a sudden we'd be talking about is Raheem Morris going to make it to the end of the year? Like, is he going to survive? And when the season ends and they win seven games after trading their first round pick, are all these guys getting fired? And this is when you kind of like the McDaniel thing. We knew coming in they were going to suck. We knew it was going to go bad. Least shocking thing we've ever seen that we're talking about him, you know, losing his job, getting fired. Like that happens. But when you look at Atlanta, you could have made the case. Atlanta was a 10 win team this season. I thought it was on the table now. I bet against it, but it's like I could have seen a scenario. And now all of a sudden you're three and five. Well, you got nine games left. You're going to go. You'd have to go six and three in those nine to just get to nine and eight. You're definitely not going seven and two. You haven't proven anything, but more than Likely you're a 4 and 5 team, a 5 and 4 team. If that's the case, you're under.500, missing the playoffs again. So to me, the Bills, like, they got to win this game just to hold serve with the Patriots. J.J. mcCarthy, people are going to have sling and some takes because everyone's going to be paying attention to that game. And this Atlanta thing could get really weird really fast because the trade deadline is next week. And this kind of solidifies, like, if you're a team in the mix, you're obviously not selling off any pieces. And some of these pieces are just guys that are going to be free agent that you're not going to resign. So it's like, hey, would you, would you trade this guy right now for a fourth or fifth round pick instead of just playing out the season? If you're a playoff team, it's worth it to have that guy. And then you look at the real bad teams. It's like, are the jets going to trade players? Do the Titans have any players to trade? You know, if the Falcons lose to the Cowboys on Monday night, like, are they in the business of trading some of their guys who would even be that tradable, like Buddha Baker type? Does he even want to leave? So it's like, usually the trade deadline historically in the NFL has been the most boring. It's definitely amped up over the last couple years because we have a lot more aggressive, you know, kind of young GMs, but I just don't know, maybe like a Jeffrey Simmons. But my expectations for the trade deadline would be a lot of like, you know, kind of smaller trades that we've seen. You're like, so and so have traded for some corner that most people have never heard of. That would be my expectation. So if a blockbuster comes, I think we would all be knocked back a little bit. Okay, I'll get you out of here on this because it's Fugazi Friday. I got two fugazi for you. My first fugazi. When NBC and the NBA reunited and it was announced that the NBA assigned this new deal with Amazon Prime. New partners no longer with tnt. They've re upped with ESPN and they're getting back with NBC. So we're going to hear that NBC theme song, I think. I didn't watch it, but I heard someone talking about, like, Bob Costas has been doing intros. They're kind of doing a throwback for my youth. When I think about the NBC, when I was a kid and the NBA was dominating, it was Michael Jordan on Sunday mornings against the Knicks or the Pacers. It felt no different than watching Packers, Lions or Chiefs, Bills. It was a really big deal that I don't know anyone with a pulse that likes sports that missed. So once they announced that Michael Jordan, the greatest basketball player and just one of the coolest, universally respected Individuals was coming back and going to be on the broadcast. I was like, this is going to be cool. Not even that my expectations were that big. I didn't expect them to see like three times a week sitting on a studio. But when they announced Michael Jordan, NBC gonna work together, I was like, ah, Michael gonna sling some takes. Like Michael gonna be like shitting on a guy. It turns out that Mike Tirico did an interview with Michael Jordan at Michael Jordan's house. And let's just say the interview was an hour long. And they have taken snippets of this interview and they just show a little bit week to week. That is the reunion of Michael Jordan and NBC. He really is nothing. And I don't blame Michael. One thing I appreciate about Michael is in this world where we know everything about everybody, especially famous rich people, we don't know that much about Michael. We only know that he likes to booze, smoke cigars and play a lot of golf, which we've known for 30 plus years. But just in terms of he ain't tweeting, he ain't instagramming, he lives a life pretty mysterious. And this is kind of classic Michael Jordan. It's like, yeah, I'll let you announce that I'm coming back, but I'm not really coming back. I'll just have Mike over. He can come and hell, he can stay the night. We'll have a few cocktails, watch a game after we do the interview. But this is what I'm giving you. It's like, what? And I blame NBC and as, and as an NBC hater because I love golf. And when they have from the Ryder cup to the US Open, their product is by far the worst. You talk about an operation, running a fugazi. NBC and their branding of this Michael Jordan relationship, Alzheimer. And last but not least, I'm not proud to say this because as I've, as I've aged. You can't outrun a bad diet really resonates with me. But most of my life never been in great shape, but I could eat relatively what I wanted and I've always worked out. I think it's kind of helped my stress levels and helps me sleep. Working out is not my issue. I can work out seven days a week. But as you get older, your diet kind of dictates your body more than working out. You can't outrun it. It's very true. I have a sweet tooth. I love sweets. It's one thing I struggle with as I get older of just no ice cream. No candy, nothing like that can be a downfall of mine. I can actually kick carbs for a month, no problem. It's usually sugars that are my problem. So over the course of my 40 years on this planet, and definitely the last 25, I've eaten a lot of candy in my day. A lot. I love Halloween. Like, most people like eating candy. I can slam the Minis, Reese's, Snickers, Milky Ways, all day. I'm more of a chocolate guy than the Starburst Sour Patch Kid that. Not that I hate that, but, like, I think there's a line of delineation between the two. My wife, a lot of people I know love that type candy. I would never even cross my mind to buy that type candy. If I'm in a store, if I'm in a gas station, whatever. But one thing I have noticed, I would say over the course of the last 10 years, but definitely recently, the last three or four years, I think these companies, it's obviously a couple major companies selling you Snickers, Reese's Pieces, Milky Way, whatever. I think they're making way shittier of a product than they were in years past. I think the ingredients they use are way cheaper. I think it tastes dramatically worse. Like, sometimes I'll just have one of those little Snickers or Milky Ways, like the little Minis, and think, this is not good. This tastes, like, very chemically. It just doesn't taste good anymore. And I am a candy. I'm not hating. This isn't like a conspiracy theory in the sense of, like, candy's really bad for you. I don't care. That's not what I mean. I'm just saying the actual product and the flavor in your mouth, to me, is way worse than it was 10, 15, 20 years ago. And my theory on that is, obviously, I guess, less people eating crappier foods. So if you still want to sell more, you got to make more. Maybe make it with cheaper ingredients so it's cheaper. So even if you sell less, you still make more because it's cheaper to produce. I don't know. But you can't convince me that the Snickers or the Reese's that I'll eat over the next couple days taste the same as it did in 2010 or 2000. I just don't believe you because I. When I tasted, sometimes it actually helps me because I don't even want to eat anymore because I don't think it tastes very good. It tastes cheap. So whatever candies they're slinging, I Love Halloween and anyone giving out apples or toothbrushes. You're a fucking loser. You're a loser. But be careful. Maybe the bigger ones are better than the Minis, but I do think the Minis is really slipping in quality.
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Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people out. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
Open your free iHeartRadio app search next Question with Katie Couric.
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Sad Oligarch Podcast Host
And listen now the Rich Russians falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad Oligarch Season 2 Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths, which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Giselle Bryant
You know the shade is always shadiest right Here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robin Dix is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama, and reality news you can handle. And, you know, we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday, I was going through a walk in my neighborhood. Out of the blue, I see this huge sign next to somebody's house. Okay, the sign says, my neighbor is a Karen.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
No way.
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Giselle Bryant
I died laughing. I'm like, I have to know. You are lying. Humongous, y'.
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Mike Florio
All.
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Giselle Bryant
They had some time on their hands. Listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Okay, we bring him back again because I. I need some good juju. I. He has molded me into hammer some of these dogs to buy low when everyone shorten a team. And I have taken that strategy the last couple weeks, and I have been getting annihilated. These favorites are kicking ass and taking names. My main man, Stuckey from the Action Network. Follow big bets on campus. Follow the Action Network podcast. All of our lines here are presented by our good friends and our partners at Hard Rock. Bet. Stuckey, I think you were throwing out some numbers last week on the favorites and the overs. It's been a good stretch for people just throwing money on the good teams.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, favorites went. Fortunately, I didn't bet too many dogs last week. The who did I have last week? I had. On Sunday, I had the Saints, who ended up turning the ball over a million times. But it was a Sunday that normally I would have gotten killed in. And I'm lucky that I didn't because favorites went 11 and 2 against the spread, which is the best winning percentage on any Sunday. Or I guess for the whole week. They went 11 and two because Chiefs covered Monday, Chargers covered Thursday. That's the best winning percentage in any single week in the NFL since 1985.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Oh, my God. Okay, let's just. Let's just dive right in. You know, this is your classic spot where it's like, everyone out on Minnesota, they got some injuries. Carson Wentz just died, so hopefully JJ McCarthy can walk, and JJ's back in against the Lions in Detroit. Now, this is. You know, he's. He's a big deal in that area because of what he brought to the college, but there probably won't be many people rooting for the Minnesota Vikings just because they have J.J. mcCarthy in that place, this is the type number that I would have hammered Minnesota over the last couple of weeks. But my logic here is pretty simple. I think this season's about to really get away from them. And sometimes, you know, you screw up a quarterback situation because logic like, I don't blame them for doing what they did, but it feels like the 49ers went through this. They got lucky. Brock Purdy, they drafted in the seventh round. He saved him. Sometimes you get in one of these situations, you draft a guy high, you end up letting Sam Donald walk. All of a sudden, you got Carson Wentz dead on the ground. And JJ McCarthy's played eight quarters of his career in a year and a half. So I just think this thing. I get to have a good coaching staff, but it does feel like Minnesota's. It could end here, and it could get really ugly against a team we know how good Detroit is at home. I just think this is type spot with Dan Campbell, Kelvin shepherd getting some LSU buzz. How good has he been?
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Mike Florio
He's been good. He's been outstanding.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
He really had. I mean, they. You've watched him the last couple of weeks. Two weeks ago, was it when they played Monday Night Football, when Troy Aikman. Troy Aikman was like, this is one of the most impressive things I can remember.
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Mike Florio
I mean, he's playing all these backups off the street, playing in the secondary. He also had a really good game plan against the Ravens for how they contained Lamar, his legs. And that was Monday.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Was that Monday night or Sunday night? Well, both.
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Mike Florio
Like, there was. I think Aikman was the. The Bucks game.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah, he was.
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Mike Florio
And then. But a couple weeks before then, I don't know if it was a Sunday or Monday. I think maybe it would have been a Sunday, but I think it was Monday Night Football. Yeah, it could have been Monday night, too. They did a really good job against the Ravens. He's. He's doing great. And they have a ton of injuries. That's worth.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
I'm taking. I'm hammering the Lions here. I'm taking the Lions. This number could probably get to 10. This got a chance, Stucky. This could get weird and ugly for Minnesota, and it could start early because, like you said, the defensive coordinator's been in his bag. We know Detroit is good on offense. Last time I looked. When's the last time Minnesota covered anybody?
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Mike Florio
Yeah, I mean, the Vikings should get Van Ginkel back, which is big. They've been using Dallas Turner in his place, and he's not.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Does that have bus Central written all over.
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Mike Florio
I mean, you're like, here's the thing with McCarthy is what he's shown us. We haven't seen much. And by the way, you're right, like, the Viking season easily could slip away. Because you think about it, this year, they have three wins. They came against Jake Browning, Dylan Gabriel, and then the bears in week one when they needed to come back. And McCarthy only had one. He had that one good quarter. That's all he's shown us, is one good quarter. If you look at all his numbers so far, they're bad. The company that he's with is bad. It's like some of the worst quarterbacks that have all flown out now. The sample size is still small, so, you know, he's taken some time off, dealt with the injury. Is he going to come back here? They've extended rest. Lions also on a buy. He's going to come back here and look better. I don't know the answer to that. I think the number is a little too high based on where I make it. But I don't. I don't know if I can trust McCarthy. So I don't blame you for going with the Lions at home. Like, Dan Campbell is just a cash cow and that's all they do is cover. He's been great off the buy at home. Indoors golf is almost automatic and, like, the Lions are going to score on everyone. Goff's been great against the blitz. You know, Flores is going to bring the blitz. He's really gotten the best of Flores over the past couple of matchups. The secondary injuries concern me a little bit with Detroit, but from everything I've seen, you know, Detroit's going to score at home and I'm not sure McCarthy can keep up. So I have no strong opinion on it as of right now. But I don't blame you for taking the Lions. Like, just take Detroit and cash 65 of the time. That's basically what Dan Campbell has done.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
You know, Tomlin has been winning for a long time. And I said a couple days ago on my podcast that we're literally on right now that, listen, I'm done ever saying like, oh, this is time to fire him. I don't expect the organization ever wants to say they fired him, but, like, it does feel if his superpower. Because now if you look, I don't think. I think he was favored against Seattle Week two. They got. They lost by two touchdowns last week. The second half, it looked the packers are dramatically better. And now if you're at home Again, back to back weeks home dog. The classic Tomlin spot. A place where he was like 70%. If he can't win those games. And not only win those games, but if you're, let's say he loses this game by double digits like you are, you're taking steps backwards because now we've seen him play Indy, the Packers in Seattle, three high end playoff teams we already have seen in the last couple years against the Bills and the Ravens in the playoffs. Not even close. We saw the end of last year. Kind of feels like we're seeing that again. Their defense is terrible. It does feel like it's starting to go okay. Is this thing really over? This is a. I, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic but does feel a little bit of a fork in the road spot. Especially when you look at the way they've built their team like for his Steeler career, like if he's not winning this game, I think you look at the rest of the season, you go, yeah, maybe they're not going to end up winning the division. We're recording this before the Ravens game on Thursday night, but even the bank. Well, the Bengals win this weekend. It's like all of a sudden he's got to fight to win this division. That's pretty crazy. Stucky. And I think the Steelers are in trouble.
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Mike Florio
Ravens are actually favored to win the division right now at 2 and 5, which is insane. Like you can go bet that. And the Ravens are the favorites.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
That, that is beyond insane.
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Mike Florio
It's crazy. Now the Ravens have a ridiculously easy schedule. If you know when anyone's listening to this, they would. You already know the result of the game against the Dolphins. But after this week they have. This is the quarterbacks they face coming up. McCarthy, Gabriel Fields, Flacco, Rogers twice. Flacco. And then at the end. Yeah, Rogers twice. The end of the season it's they host the Patriots and they go to the Packers. So like they could rattle off like six or seven straight wins here. And the Steelers schedule obviously gets tougher. And then the Ravens play them twice so they can really make up ground. But yeah, I went, I, this is the Thomas spot that I trust. So I got to the window.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
You're right back the back to back being home underdogs and losing the first.
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Mike Florio
Leg that closed last week at two and a half like the Packers. I stole the packers better than the Colts. Like the difference for me this week on why I'm trusting the Steelers is I still think the packers are a couple points better than the Colts. Now some disagree market might disagree, but the difference between the the Colts offense has been historically good so far this year. Now granted their schedule has been pretty.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Laughable, but still they like never punt, right?
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Mike Florio
Yeah, you got to play the Titans twice for Jonathan Dallas. Six touchdowns against the Titans this year.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Crazy.
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Mike Florio
And they've played nothing but indoor games and two games in sofi. Their only road game outdoors was in Tennessee when it was 80 degrees against that joke Titans defense. So this is like outdoors in some conditions. But the Steelers defense, it's bad. It's. They're underperforming because their talent like Joey Porter is a good corner. He's not playing well. You have Ramsey there, you have your defensive line, but now you lost your safety and desean Elliott. I'm curious to see what they do if they shake up the secondary, if they shake up some of their coverages because the defense has been really poor this year. But I think that the market's gone a little too far on the colts, especially their DBs.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Their DBs look slow. That's part of the problem. They can't run.
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Mike Florio
Slay is I think washed. They've been starting to swap him out for Eccles. It's yeah, the defense is very problematic but so I don't think they're really going to slow down the Colts enough. You might get a classic like Pittsburgh voodoo some turnovers here. Daniel Jones maybe overdue for one of those games. The Steelers also have a big kicker advantage in this stadium, which is the hardest to kick in in the NFL, which maybe plays a role. But I just think the Steelers offense can keep up. The difference between the Colts and the packers to me is the packers have a really good defense and the Colts right now do not because their corners are hurt. Tavarius Ward being on ir. Jalen Johnson, their outside corners right now are extremely weak. They also are the worst in the league at defending tight ends. Well, the Steelers use multiple tight ends on 55 of their snaps. One of the most tight end heavy offenses in the league. And the Colts can't cover tight ends. Linebackers safety's really struggle in that aspect. So I think the Steelers can take advantage there. They should be able to run the ball. Rogers can kind of methodically move the ball down the field. The Colts don't have a pass rush like the packers either. So I think the Steelers can keep up here. I think it's too many points. For what it's worth, when Tomlin closes as a dog of three or more, he is 40, 21 and three against the spread, 65.6%. Most profitable coach of all time in this spot. 11, two and three against the spread at home, covering by eight points per game. That's 85. And when that opponent has a winning percentage of 60 or more, 10, one and one against the spread, covering by 10 points per game. This is the rah rah spot. This is off back to back losses. He could have said that about last week and yep, you would have been wrong. But history says that he covers these more times than not. And I just think that the line is too high. I think that this should be slightly under three. So I took the field. Especially if you can get like three in a hook, even if they pay for it a little bit. I do like that. And a lot of it has to do with the matchup of the Steelers offense versus the Colts defense. We'll see if Austin and Tom and can cook up something defensively because nothing really has been working. I mean, yes, they won it New England, but it took like five turnovers to shut that offense down. They were moving the ball. That defense definitely has problems. They're going to need Watt and company to cause some turnovers to slow down the Colts this week. But I think the market's gone a little bit too far on the Colts. But I've been wrong before. But I did bet the Steelers, they didn't even sat.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
I mean, now granted, they hit him a couple times and he pulled off some miraculous throws, but no sacks. It's like, man, we're paying a lot of money for this D line. Tj we need you to be, you know, Miles Garrett or something here.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. I get why they paid Watt. I would not have like, it's.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
He's been very hit or miss. When he's been good, he's been good. But he's also been in my A and some. He's been like an older player. Yeah.
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Mike Florio
And then all that money at this his age right now, where it's like, it feels like a team that needs to just blow it up eventually and start over. You got to find your quarterback of the future. But they're like hanging on. If you're a Steelers fan, it's like, how for how many years are you going to be 9 and 8? Go to the playoffs, lose your first game. I mean, the last time they won a playoff game is in, I don't know, 2016.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Long time ago. Yeah.
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Mike Florio
So it's been like the same story ever since Ben. Big Ben retired. Even at the end of Big Ben's career, it was kind of the same. And you know, now they have Rogers. I just heard them say they want Rogers to come back next year. It's like, well, he has been the.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Least of their worries. But it has, the other thing is, hasn't got cold yet. Remember last year got cold and you know, they're different players. Obviously Rogers better than Russ. But some of the, you look at their schedule, he's going to be playing in some cold ass games in November and December. So we'll see. Good point. Something for me to keep an eye on. You know, this is a unique game and I told you this before we hit record is this isn't a perfect parallel. But like when Jim Harbaugh was hired with the 49ers forever, it was like, God, the 49ers have a lot of good players. They just need a real coach. They could be a frisky team, be like a wild card team. All of a sudden midway through the season it's like, this team's really good because they're winning all these games. The dust settles. They had the number one seed now. Eli ended up beating him in the AFC championship game. But they hosted the NFC championship game after having like a seven, eight year run of embarrassment. I mean, one point in time, Pete Carroll turned him down to stay at usc. It was, it was Matt Leiner. Rumors were that he, you know, he didn't declare to the draft because he didn't want to go to the 49ers. Like it was bleak. They were treated like the jets, little different New England because it hasn't been that long. But Vrabel clearly has instantaneously made them a real team. Now they benefit from the schedule, but he's a big time coach and it does feel like, are we going to look up, it's like, are the Patriots about to win 12 or 13 games and like they're in the mix to win the division. And on the flip side, it felt like last week was like the moment when everyone got on board is like, is Raheem and everyone in this organization going to get canned at the end of this year because they wait, they gave the owner or they got the owner to give $90 million to a quarterback last year that they benched and then as the highest paid backup in the history of the league, came in a game and looked atrocious and now it feels like he's kind of coaching for his gig. Not like he's going to get fired midseason, but you go three and five like this Thing get away from you fast. So this is like I've bet against New England as a big favorite over like two of the last three weeks and been burned. So I'm not going to do it but and there's no way I could trust Raheem Morrison as of recording this. I don't even know who their quarterback is this week but I think Atlanta, they lose this game especially and don't even cover the spread. They're getting five and a half points on the road against New England. This thing could get really ugly Stucky really fast.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, I did play the Falcons. It's a little scary. I mean on the road they have not looked like the same team. Now granted they didn't look they look bad indoors last week. This is just like this is similar to the Colts. Like I I'm taking my stand here that the market has gone a little bit too far now. I I bet. Let's see there's still a six out there. I would look for the six if you can find it. I just think the market's gone a little too far. I mean like the patriots were about 7 point favorites last week at home against Dylan Gabriel. Now obviously they get upgraded, the Falcons get downgraded. But the Falcons play with Kirk Cousins who look lost. There's no Drake London there without three or four defensive starters and they just came out in the days. It happens in the NFL and this is one a spot that I love. Historically teams off a loss by more than two touchdowns when they are favored by seven or more. So the Falcons, favored by seven last week got blown out. The next week they're 33 and 16 against the spread over the past 20 years 67. They cover by over a field goal per game 2491 when they go on the road after that happens 10 3, 1 against the spread is a road dog of more than a field goal. That's just a fancy way of saying a big a big favorite got embarrassed. It's the NFL Teams are never as bad or as good as they look on week. The next week after that happens usually going to get their best effort. And in this case the Falcons should be healthier on defense. One of the things that they do best is that they prevent explosive passing plays. They're second in the NFL in that department. That's a huge part of Drake May's game. I mean he throws an elite deep ball. He's been deadly in that department. Falcons do a good job of preventing those. They also can get some pressure when they're healthy and they should be much healthier. They do miss Diablo their linebacker. They got Bertrand in there. He's just terrible but he hurts. He really. They really miss him in the running game. Run defense but New England's run game isn't that great. And this New England off this New England defense is not good. They can stop the run but they have issues in coverage. Their linebacker specifically can't cover. So I think like Bijan out of the backfield I think that Drake London should be back this week. That's huge. I mean they're not having him last week just killed the offense and then Cousins looked lost and washed and I think Pitts can have a big day here. They should be able to move the ball. I am expecting panics back. Looks like he's trending up. I think the defense will be healthier and I mean this is a Patriots team. Look I may is the real deal and you're right, they're going to win. Most likely they're going to win double digit games assuming they stay healthy. Maybe one of the healthiest teams in the league this year. They've also been pretty fortunate on fourth down. So maybe there's some regression coming there. They're 10 of 12 on fourth down. Opponents are just three and 11. Those things are huge swings in games. But this is a team that did lose at home to the Steelers. They did lose at home to the Raiders. You got to keep that in mind. Their wins, they had a really impressive win at Buffalo. Their other wins, the Dolphins by six. They blew out the Panthers, the Saints by six. They blew out the Titans and then they blew out Dylan Gabriel and the Browns and the Browns defense is just not the same on the road. Dylan Gabriel is not the type of quarterback that's going to throw the Browns on other pass. You have to throw on this New England defense. And I think Atlanta does have the personnel because I'm expecting Pennocks and I am expecting London back. So I did play Atlanta. Buy low, sell high spot. I'm expecting a max effort, expecting a healthier team. I do think we're getting close to the peak of the market on the Patriots. Now I could be wrong in that aspect. There are, you know every year in the NFL there's I shouldn't say every year but most years in the NFL there's usually a team that the market can't catch up to.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Commanders last year.
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Mike Florio
Yep. And they're just, you know you upgrade them like I when I upgrade teams I don't like. All right, I'm going to Upgrade them, you know, astronomically in one week. Right. It's incremental. And you try to make your best guess of how much better this team is than what you thought coming into the season and your prior stole matter up until a point. So sometimes the market can't catch up their team. And it works on the other end too. The other end of the spectrum. There's some teams at the market just can't get right of how bad they actually are. And that's why you have a team like the Titans, who were 4 and 21 against the spread over the past 25 games. It's just unfathomable.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
I'm guilty in.
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Mike Florio
I've been very guilty in the past. I was the head of that train last year and the market just can't. You can't get them right. There were some Browns teams back in the day that would always take sharp money. I used to bet them all the time and they just were so bad and. But you would set your numbers and be like, all right, this has gone too far. But real in reality, it hasn't. The market hasn't bought in value and there's a chance that we haven't reached the peak on the Colts offense. This really is. And the Colts and the Patriots are very similar. You have. Their offenses have been great. Drake May's been great. Daniel Jones been great and. But they've played like soft schedules. Their defenses have holes. But they're both six and two against the spread. They both continue to cover. And maybe we're just. We haven't gone far enough yet. I'm taking a stand. I did fade both of them this week. So I did bet the Falcons and the Steelers. Wish me luck.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Remember, there was like, it might have been Flores year one. So would that have been like 19 or 18 when they were like. It would have been 19 because they were kind of tanking for a quarterback. I'm pretty sure they got a couple lines that got near 20, maybe over 20 against the pats. Yeah, that was. I think that's like the biggest line and the COVID one's hard because some guys didn't. The teams didn't have quarterback or whatever, but like actual football games. I remember that Dolphins team with Flores got pretty ugly, pretty bleak. I. I kind of missed that. And now and I talk a lot of about the NBA for tanking. You can't have that. But in the NFL, like every five years have something situation like that would intrigue me.
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Mike Florio
Agree.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
They got a great punt team. It's like Bill.
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Mike Florio
Broncos Jags 2013. The Broncos, I believe, are 27 point favorites. It's hard to even think about. Wow.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
And they ended up the biggest NFL line of like the last couple decades. Probably has to be.
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Mike Florio
Yes, by far. There was a game where, like, what.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Was the final score of that game?
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Mike Florio
35:19. The Broncos one. So the. The Jacks. The Jags were 0 and 5. The Broncos were 5, 0. The Broncos at Peyton Manning. Really good defense. The Jags were starting Chad Henney, who ended up throwing for 300 in that game, oddly enough.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
And that line wouldn't be that big today, would it?
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Mike Florio
No, that is insane. There was a line. This was a Covid year when the. In the COVID during co. The Saints went to the Broncos and had no quarterbacks left. Yeah. And they had a start. The awake forest wide receiver at quarterback.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
And that game was sick.
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Mike Florio
They were like. I think it was like plus 17. The total was like 34. I ended up betting the over end. I stupidly bet the. The Saints with a. A wide receiver at quarterback. He did play some quarterback in college.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
But I thought it was Denver that played the wide receiver.
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Mike Florio
Yes, you're right. Because.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah, it was Denver.
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Mike Florio
You're right. You're right. I got that mixed up. They were playing the Saints and they were catching like 17 and a half at home. And I ended up betting them in the under. And I think the final score was like. I want to say it was like 28 to 3 or something.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
It was rough. I remember watching because I wanted to see.
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Mike Florio
It was one of the worst games I've ever watched.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Those were bleak times. Thank God we're never going back.
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Mike Florio
Yes.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Okay. Okay. Speaking of the Broncos, you nailed the Houston game last week. The rest didn't hit him because the 49ers roll out a defensive line that was not capable of taking advantage of anybody. That's not really the case here with the Broncos. The problem is, is one thing that really stood out in that Niner game is Colton McKivitz. They just gave him an extension, which I think we can debate whether that's smart or not, because he plays a guy like Will Anderson. Will Anderson looks like he's Derek Thomas or fucking Lawrence Taylor. He was dominant in that game. Now Denver's got a good offensive line, but Houston's defense is really good. I mean, they're. Will Anderson is a monster. You know that guy, I would love for that guy to be on my squad. It does feel though, this offensive line for Houston and I get there missing Sir Tan, who's one of the best players in the league. And I think Riley Moss, I was watching the game last week and he got like three straight PIs and they're like, yeah, he leads the league by a wide margin.
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Mike Florio
I mean, he got one right after they said that.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah, he's getting some PIs. But I I that offensive line, you know, CJ looked awesome, but he had all time to throw. I don't know if that's going to be the case here. I think I kind of like Denver a lot now this number has come down. I looked this morning, it was plus one and a half. But it does feel like a matchup game. Tough spot for Houston.
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Mike Florio
I think I'm going to bet Houston, but I can see the case. I've made this case for the Texans for and against before, and it's the case. You just made like Stroud, in a way is pressure Merchant, like, if he is not under pressure because that offensive line is so bad, he can carve up defenses. If he is, and that offensive line is very vulnerable and you go up against elite defensive front, like we saw it against the Rams, we saw it against the Seahawks, the entire offense collapses. And you're certainly going up against an elite defensive front in Denver and they will certainly bring the blitz. Strava struggled against the blitz as well, so I wouldn't blame anyone for taking the Broncos with that logic. However, I, I don't know if Denver's defense can be as effective without certain like the ripple effects without him are massive. Like he basically takes away one side of the field, takes away your number one receiver, and it allows them to be so aggressive. It allows them to have so much flexibility in aggression. Will they still have that? I don't know. They might play a little. They played a little bit more conservative last week with them, but they had a lead, so it's hard to read too much into that. But it's a big drop off from him to Abrams Drain and the Texans should have Nico Collins and Christian Kirk back this week. That's pretty big. Broncos also are dead last in league covering running backs out of the backfield. That's been Woody Marks has given him a little juice in that department, so that's a. A way that Houston can potentially move the ball. The young receivers for Houston did look a lot better last week. I think they can carry some of that momentum over and it's not going to take much to win this game. The total is 40 indoors for a reason. These are two great defenses, but at the end of the Day like I'm, it's especially. This is at one. I'm taking Stroud over Knicks. I'm taking the Houston defense over the Broncos defense, especially without certain. And they're at home. And this is like this Houston defense. They're like similar to the Colts offense. Not enough people are talking about how historically good this past defense has been for the Texans. This year. They are number one in the league by a wide margin. And they're going to play a lot of quarters, they're going to play a lot of zone. And Bo Nix has been miserable against both this year. And I mean, you look at this Broncos team, yes, they have six wins, but man, have they been lucky. They beat the Titans at home by one possession. They beat Jake Browning, they beat Justin Fields by two. In London, they beat the Giants at home by one when they were down 20. They came back from down 17 three against Philly to win by four. Then last week they blew out the road. Cowboys was an impressive win. Nick's was impressive. But the Cowboys defense, like, if you look at Nick's numbers this year, most of his damage that he's done has come against the Bengals defense, the Cowboys defense, and then the Giants defense when they, and they didn't do anything to the fourth quarter when the Giants lost all their defensive backs.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
This is a big spot for Bo Nicks. I mean, this is, this is. If you're going to take Denver seriously, he plays well, then you feel good.
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Mike Florio
If yeah, he doesn't get over well. Like, he just got like. Because the Denver's defense is pro. The Houston offense is not going to light the world on fire any week. I mean, even last week, they were up at one point in that game, 450 to 150 in yards. They had the ball the entire. And then you, it's like a one possession game. You're like, yeah, what the hell is going on? So Nick doesn't even have to be great, but he can't be a disaster. And he's had games where he's a disaster. But it's still okay because the Denver defense is so good. And, but. And they're playing against a defense that's not elite. Well, this is an elite defense. There is no certain. So I'm gonna go with Houston. But your, your hypothesis and your premise on just saying like, look, the offensive line is going to hold up. That's going to be the difference. I, I can't follow you for that logic.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people out. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown. Not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.
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Bernie Sanders
To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.
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Katie Couric
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Mike Florio
Okay?
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Giselle Bryant
The sign says, my neighbor is a Karen.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
No way.
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Giselle Bryant
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Mike Florio
All.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Okay, let's get to the main event. Chiefs at Buffalo. Obviously, Buffalo has played really well against them in the regular season over the years, but they have never beat him in the playoffs, right? 0 and 4 and I, I don't know, I, to me, I. It's hard not to love the Chiefs in this spot. They go in, they win. Not only would Kansas City be one of the hottest teams in the league, it'd be hard to see them like, yeah, they're probably going to win the AFC again, assuming they stay healthy because the quarterback looks awesome. Their offense is dramatically better with Rice back and Hollywood Brown in there. Their running backs are all playing well. They avoided disaster. Pacheco just, you know, sprained his knee. Didn't you know, you saw like him be pretty ecstatic when they checked it out for the ACL and everything was good on the sideline with the trainer. I don't know, something I know Buffalo dominated last week, but I mean, it's like, what do you even make of that? As someone that had Buffalo at the beginning of the season to go to the Super Bowl? I don't know, it just feels like I just don't think their personnel is good enough on defense when the dust settles and that they're going to get a big time test this weekend because I think, you know, over the years, I don't know if the Chiefs, the motivation hasn't quite been the same in the regular season as the way they obviously get up for the playoffs. I think they're going to take this game pretty seriously. You know, they got to buy, I would expect the Chiefs a little kitchen sink game here. Like, hey, we're back fully back. I, I think you're going to get a full, you know, Mike Tyson, like right swing from Andy Reid this week with some stuff they got in their back box. Especially after last week they were, you could tell after like the third, it's like this, they just called off the dogs. You've been on this forever. You know, Andy is not a college coach. He's not running it up like Signetti. I, I, I think this week Buffalo better be careful because I think the Chiefs are going to come in firing.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, I wish I had a hot take on this game. I really do. I mean, like, in order to bet the Chiefs here, like Chiefs minus one and a half, two, like, you'd have to make this like, just from a pure project. If this is how you bet, you'd have to like to show value in it. I'd have to make them like, at least over a field goal at like, after adjusting for home field, like, so we're saying like the Chiefs are, you know, four, four, four and a half points better than the Bills. In order, like, it to, that would, that would be enough for me to say, okay, I'll, I'll lay it here.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Well, what would this line be if they were his game was at Arrowhead.
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Mike Florio
No, I'm just saying, like, I guess.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
It would because you're just doing that in a neutral field, the way you're looking at it, right?
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Mike Florio
Yeah, I'm, no, I'm saying, like, yeah, on a neutral field. That's how much better they would have to be. And then you adjust for home field, you know, and I would make it slightly a field goal, then I could justify taking this price. Now, the Bills have defensive injuries like Ed Oliver going on ir. Their linebackers are banged up, their safeties are banged up, and that's been the biggest issue. Them, their defense. And they really haven't played anyone this year. They lost to the Patriots. They should have lost the Ravens. The rest of their games have been, you know, you're playing the jets, the Dolphins, the Panthers. So it's hard to really get a true read on just how troubled this defense is, especially with some of their injuries up front. Now their run day is very susceptible, but that's not really the Chiefs game. But also they can be attacked. Like, their safety can be attacked. Their linebackers right now can be attacked over the middle of the field. And that's somewhere where the Chiefs certainly can take advantage of. I do think, like, in a way we, we're at the peak on the Chiefs. Like, we've seen their offense. Like, they're laying two points at Buffalo. And like, how much higher can you get on them? I, I don't think you can. I mean, the Ravens were considered number one in the league coming into the year at the top dog. They were favorites to win the super bowl. And that's, they weren't even this high in Week 1 at Buffalo. So, yeah, I, I just can't get there. And like look, it's Josh Allen at home. They lose like once every 18 months at home and they did already happen this year. Maybe that's their, their one loss. Now the Chiefs offense is trending up but let's remember they played the Washington defense which had like no everyone hurt, no pass rush. They played the Raiders when Crosby got hurt and the Raiders are just a mess. And I that's their last two weeks. So it has looked a little. And look they've had offensive line injuries. Not gonna matter against the Raiders. Crosby in Washington last week. If there's one thing Buffalo can do, it is they can get pressure. But to me this just, it's, this just screams who's gonna have the ball last. You know Alan's gonna put up a fight. He uses legs a ton. He averages like 10, 10 attempts per game every time they played the Chiefs. So he's gonna extend drives, he's gonna put his body on the line like this. This is an all out Allen game too. I agree with you. You're gonna get the kitchen sink from the Chiefs. Like these games are even more important for them. It's not like they have a five game lead in the division. Right. Like their division they started behind the eight ball. Like these games are very important.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
This is a massive game for both teams.
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Mike Florio
I mean this is huge because the Bills also now their Bills are used to just running about the division. They have the Patriots. So for playoff positioning for everything. So I think you get both teams best shot. I think it'll be an awesome game to watch. If either team goes up like 10, I'll be betting the other side live most likely because either quarterback will easily bring their team back in the game. And yeah, I think this will just be a heavyweight fight that will be awesome to watch. But I don't really have that hot of a take. But the, the Chiefs offense might just be too much for the current state of this Bill's defense. But then again like the Chiefs run D is vulnerable this year and that's what everything starts for the Bills with their run game which I think they'll be able to get going here. And then like it's just going to be Alan making plays, Mahomes making plays. Like there's not much mystery here. It'll be fun to watch. I'll probably look to bet it live.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Okay, let's do the quick primetime games. I don't like. I love Seattle in this spot. Coming off a by Washington licking their wounds. Just had a road Monday night. Game at Arrowhead, their defense looks so bad. I mean the guy's been a legendary player, but God, Bobby Wagner looks slow, slow. And anytime you're middle linebacker, like this isn't 1992. You're playing all these teams that are spreading you out, all these running backs and tight ends can really catch you kind of get exposed in space fast. And I just think Seattle, I've been you and you've been on this guy.
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Mike Florio
For a long time.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
If McDonald was an offensive coach, I mean, I think Seattle has a very good chance if they can get healthy. Like if they are healthy, you know, like they're going to be really good now. Sam Darnold's going to have that kind of elephant in the room. Like what's he like in the big, big games, but holy shit, he was look good. I, I think Seattle, I think Washington, we talked about it last week, they're in major trouble now. They're in real trouble. And like to me, I don't even think they're in trouble. They're just not very good this year.
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Mike Florio
Defense is bad. The offense is banged up and that fourth down variance that I was talking about earlier came. It's coming back to bite.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Andy Reid just said it. He's like, it was difference in the game. They went 0:2 and we got some big spots.
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Mike Florio
We turned in touchdowns and yeah, that was it. And that last year they were getting all those four downs. Now there's no McLaurin. Tunsel's banged up. Daniels is going to play, but how healthy is he? Is he fully mobile? Obviously when he is fully mobile. But like he hasn't been the same quarterback as last year. A little bit of a sophomore slump, but also like the timing's been off. He's didn't get to work with the receivers leading up to the season. And every week there's different receivers playing. So like this offense is nowhere close to where it was now. Teams kind of know their tendencies, know what Cliff and company want to do with Daniel. So it's just not the same operation. And then the defense you mentioned, like Lattimore, he's way, he's over the hill, mentioned Wagner, that against the Seattle play action, Wagner is going to be in trouble there. And Washington can't generate any pressure because of all their defensive line injuries. I mean they've been decimated up front and their secondary wasn't very good to begin with. And now you have Seattle coming in who can generate pressure without blitzing at one of the top rates in the league. And their Secondary is only getting healthier. You mentioned coming off of by Washington Short week the McDonald. The Seahawks under McDonald have been tremendous on the road throughout his tenure. The only thing that gives me pause here is like just the uncertainty with McLaren which would lead itself to. It would only help the Seattle side. Are we like is this the bottom of the market on Washington? It isn't like a savior season all in spot like you lose this game at like your season is. It's close to done like just so. And are we like at the peak on Seattle? I'm not sure we've gotten there yet but that. That would be my one concerns. But I do think Seattle has significant advantages on both sides of the ball against this very beat up Washington offense. That it just doesn't have the same, the same dynamic without McLaurin stretching the field. And it doesn't enable you to do a lot of the things that they want to do. And just the offense in general hasn't been as good because of some of the reasons that I mentioned before. So yeah, I think Seattle's a real player in the NFC.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
You know one thing looking at their stats from 2024 is they were so potent scoring with the run game. I mean Brian Robinson had eight touchdowns for him. Jaden Daniels ran for six and he led the team in rushing. And McNichols and Eckler combined for eight touchdowns. It's like right now they're com. They're depending on the seventh round rookie who is talented. I know people in the NFL that liked him a lot but that's. Their running game was just a potent kind of. It was a group unit. It's not like they had Christian McCaffrey or Saquon Barkley, but led by Jaden Daniels, they were pretty and lose losing Eckler. I mean he was really good out of the backfield. It just is a threat to catch the ball. Like they're just not like their, their offense doesn't seem very well rounded. They can throw some bombs to Terry McLaurin, but that's about all they got.
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Mike Florio
And he's not even gonna be in there this week. Yeah, it's nowhere close to the same unit. They caught lightning in a bottle last year and not to say Daniel's not going to be great, but this year it looks like it's heading toward a lost season and the league is kind of. They're gonna have to adjust because the league has adjusted to a lot of what Cliff was doing with him last year and they've just been decimated by injuries. Like that's. Sometimes that's what happens and you lose a season because of it. I mean look no further than your 49ers. I mean I don't even trying to keep track of the 49ers who's playing. Like it's a full time job. I. And like last week they go in completely decimated and like Winters and Collins, Elliott, like all these other guys get hurt.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
The.
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Mike Florio
The list of who's on IR and who's questionable every week and then you don't even know who's starting at quarterback.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Well, they're a team that at this point in time it's like just stay away from like I couldn't even bet them against the Giants because it's like. I, I don't know. I mean they, the Giants also have.
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Mike Florio
A ton of injuries too.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Well, exactly. But the other thing with the 49ers, like they can lose guys during the game. So like all of a sudden it could be halftime. It' middles out and McCaffrey's questionable to come back in. So you just at any moment it could completely unravel. They. They've. That's a game that to me is a stay away game because like oh, the Giants suck. The Niners, I don't know who's playing for the night.
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Mike Florio
Ricky Pierce all ain't massive a game. I agree. It's. That game is. It's funny now. It's funny. I mean credit to Kyle for getting the 5 and 3, but it's hard.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
To see if he wins nine games. It's pretty impressive given that he's going.
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Mike Florio
To go to the year like if he gets into the playoffs.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah, I mean I bet Purdy I'd put his over under game started this year like under four right now. It ain't looking pretty. You know.
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Mike Florio
You don't think he plays this week. You think it's Jones?
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah, just. And even if he does, like I could see it being like testing it out.
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Bernie Sanders
It.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Because this isn't a fixable thing. You know, it's not one of the things. So it's like it's going to linger and if he can't run around then you just go with Mac. Jones is going to continue to start. Like if we saw Purdy against Jacksonville, he was like 50% of himself and that's when it didn't even feel as bad clearly as it's felt lately. I think there was a story out a couple weeks ago that. Who are they playing? Oh, Atlanta. He had tried. He had done A workout earlier in the day on Sunday because they had the night game and they were hoping like that would propel him to. Into the following week to get last week in Houston. And I don't think it felt good. These fucking turf toes are. He can't function. So it's like I have. If you tell me Purdy has just never seen the rest of the year, I'd believe you. I think Niners just try to claw their way to 9ish wins and just see where the dust settles. Get in the playoffs. It would be an impressive season by Kyle.
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Mike Florio
Agreed. Yeah. I think the best thing that they could do is. Yeah. Claw into the plows and you get to see who of these young defenders.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Exactly.
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Mike Florio
Are worth keeping around. And where you're holes still exist.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Okay. We'll end with this game Monday night. I. I don't know if when the schedule came out, the schedule makers were smiling on this one. And we're like, yeah, we can't hit them all. Dallas hosting the Cardinals. This feels like a game from like when we were like in junior high. These teams, I feel like the Arizona Cardinals and Dallas, they used to be in the same division. They used to play each other a lot.
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Mike Florio
Yeah.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
You know, back Plumber, Jake Plummer was probably the quarterback. Yeah. Back in Tempe. So I don't know. I mean, I guess if Kyler plays, he's never lost in the stadium. That'll be something. This has a feel of Troy being pissed off in the booth. Not because he's mad at any of the quarterbacks, because he has to. He has to call this game. Now granted, it's probably an easy travel for him. He doesn't. He just gets a drive right to the stadium. But I don't know if you tell. I like the Cardinals more of Jacoby starting than if Kyler starting. But this game's got. They got his Monday night or most people wouldn't be paying attention to this thing.
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Mike Florio
Yep. We're all gonna watch. We know that. So we can all complain about the matchup and then we'll all have it on our tv. So. And the NFL knows that they have us and they always will. Like honestly, is there a matchup that this Monday night the NFL could put on and you would not watch? Like let's say Titans post the Saints you watching?
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. And they know that and I know.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
That now I have to. That that would be if. If I didn't do this for a living. Let's say I was in the insurance world but love football. As much as I love football, so I'm still watching a lot of games. That could be one where if my wife was like, hey, you want to go get dinner? You know where you could, you know, there would be. If like the Bills are playing the Chiefs, I say no. The Titan Saints, it can get bad enough. If I didn't do this for a living, I would do other things.
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Mike Florio
Yeah.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
If they became. If I was asked to do them now, if I wasn't asked to do them, I would watch.
- [90:13]
Mike Florio
Yep. All right. Well, in regards to this game, that's.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
How college football works for me a little bit. Like sometimes Saturday night, no way I'm missing this. And sometimes like, yeah, we can go get dinner or whatever.
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Mike Florio
Got it.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah.
- [90:25]
Mike Florio
In this regard, in regards to this game, it's sitting right now pretty much juice, two and a half. I want a three with Arizona, basically. I mean, Dallas's offense is a different animal at home. They're a juggernaut at home. Like they. They're just gonna school, they're just gonna score in that dome indoors, no matter who you are. Now, Arizona's defense is going to be healthier here. They've been dealing a lot of corner injuries. They should be healthy on that front. They do a good job of preventing explosive plays. It's a well schemed defense, but Dallas is going to put up their points. However, like, how is Arizona not going to score? I don't even care if it's Murray or Brissette. And the offenses look better with Brissette. It doesn't matter. It's the Dallas defense, like the ever like the Dallas defenses and they have more injuries. The Dallas defense made Bo Nicks look like Montana last week. I mean, it is. It is absolutely atrocious. And so I think Arizona can keep up. And I do think that there's so, like, if I could bet at Arizona and make Dallas beat me by, you know, more than three with their defense, I'd be happy to do it because I think there is a difference, a perception difference between like, who Arizona is and then who they actually, you know what people think they are because this is a team that easily could be 5 and 2. Now they're 2 and 5. They lost five straight. They start off the year two zero. They lose to San Francisco by one on the road because they dropped the widening pass. Easily could have been win, arguably should have been. They lose to Seattle, probably got outplayed. They lose Seattle on the final play of the game because they messed up the kickoff. They lose by three. They Lose to the Titans in one of the most bizarre losses you'll ever see because they dropped the ball going in the end zone and then there was an interception, fumbled for a touchdown. They lose by one. Then they play two teams that everyone is saying are contenders in the Super Bowl. They play at Indianapolis without their receivers, still with defensive injuries with Brissette starting, lose only by four. And then they play the packers and only lose by four. So they've had five losses in a row by a combined 13 points. Like they're in every game. It doesn't end. Some of them have been at Indianapolis, has been blown out, everybody. And against Green Bay, who's one of the best teams in the NFL, in my opinion. So, like, they're. They're going to be around in this game. They're frisky, they're coming off a buy. They are well steamed on defense and.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Like, you know that they have a better. Their point differential is minus 1. The 49ers at 5 and 3 is my minus 4.
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Mike Florio
That's hilarious. What are the Bucks probably built some last week.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah, the Bucks are 19. So, I mean, but for a 6 and 2 team with a plus 19 is not great. You know, for example, Seattle's. You know, Seattle and The Rams are plus 57 and plus 58. Right. You know, the Broncos are plus 56. Like most good teams. The Colts are plus 116.
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Mike Florio
The Steelers are zero. Yeah. That makes. That just makes perfect sense.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
So the point is like the difference between the Cardinals and the Niners of five and three and two and five is probably two or three total plays.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. Which is what football is.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Which is the NFL. Yeah.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. That's all it is, that betting, too. I always tell people like that you bet on a football game and coach is the outcome of the game is usually determined by like four or five plays. Your bet is usually determined by maybe four or five plays. So a couple turnovers, did you get them or not? Three or four fourth downs, did they go against you or not? Those are enormous swinging plays and could be.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Could be a field goal hitting the upright or not.
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Mike Florio
You just have to. You love football. You gotta live with, like, sometimes you're gonna run so bad on all those things happening, and then sometimes you're gonna run really well and you won't even notice because you'll say, like, how is the right call? But whenever all those are going against you, you're like, oh, my God. But, yeah, if I can get three here with Arizona, this team can play with anybody. And this Dallas defense just offers no resistance whatsoever. Arizona should be able to do whatever they want and at least should be an entertaining game. Should be a lot of offense if.
- [94:50]
Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
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Mike Florio
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Katie Couric
Latest episode of Next Question with Me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.
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Bernie Sanders
Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.
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Katie Couric
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Bernie Sanders
Does that sound like a radical idea? Is that too far left for you?
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Katie Couric
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Bernie Sanders
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Welcome fellow seekers of the dark.
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Mike Florio
I'm Danny Trejo.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Won't you join me in Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows, an anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends and lore of Latin America. Take a trip from ghastly encounters with evil spirits to bone chilling brushes with supernatural creatures and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of my Cultura Podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Couple quick college things before you get out of here. We brought them up last week and I just saw now with you with rules like kind of fake little extension that makes his buyout a little bit more expensive. And he's also playing Nebraska. I mean he's playing USC this week which he could lose at home. The Jeff Braum is now the betting favorite to be the next coach or the Paul on Poly market. So like the I guess is that betting favorite or just where the odd market makes him? Howard market?
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Mike Florio
Yeah, yeah.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Prediction market. So Jeff Braum is currently the the favorite to be the Penn State head coach. He plays Virginia Tech this week. Pretty big. Pretty big favorite. Obviously there was a story last week about Stark and he got pissed off that he was going to go to the NFL and his team barely pulled a game out of the crevices of his butt. And now he plays Vandy where he's an underdog, I guess. Vandy dog. Yeah. Small favorite at home but I mean are you, are you hammering Vandy in that spot?
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Mike Florio
I don't. It's. I kind of like the under in that game. The Texas defense is super elite. I don't know if Arch is going to play. I think he is though. So if you like Vandy and Van, he's a machine as an underdog under Pavia. Wait, I do think that line just at two and a half now is going to get to like three. Three and a half. Texas has one of the best safeties in the country too. He. He wasn't supposed to play this week. He practiced yesterday. I think he's also going to play and this is like Texas season. Like they need this game. Vanny surprisingly doesn't. You know now if they don't win.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
If Texas loses, Stuckey, they got like 7 to 5 written all over them too.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, they're done now. Vandy. If they lose this game they will have to win out and it might be a game at Tennessee to end the year to see who goes to the playoffs between those two teams. That would be electric. I think that's a Neil and Stadium. Stadium. But this is a tough spot for Bendy. Like they just went, you know, this is their four.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
They normally play that game like Texas, Texas A and M or you know, Michigan, Ohio State. Is that the last game of the season? Yeah, but usually just haven't noticed.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, Tennessee is a huge favorite. I mean it means something in the.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
State, but it's like the egg bowl, like whatever. Auburn, Bama, they play that week. I've never even noticed.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, I mean most people wouldn't. It's usually a completely relevant game.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
That's pretty sick. That'll be a big moment in Tennessee history, like the state.
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Mike Florio
I think, like there is a good chance that that's an elimination game. We're playing game. Depending on how you.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Especially if Tennessee wins this weekend, huh?
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Mike Florio
Yeah. Now if Tennessee loses. Yeah, they're probably done. And then they could knock out Dandy Ben. I actually like Oklahoma in that game catching three. I think it's gonna be a close game. Tennessee's offense has played like they're three. Their wins in the SEC have come against three teams who are.013 in the SEC. They have not faced a top elite defense yet. Like I. The Bama's defense this year is not elite. Georgia's defense is not elite. And if you look at like sac rate, pressure rate all the teams they face, there's only one in the top 50 in sacrament. It's Alabama. They're 45th. Oklahoma's number one sacrate number one in Havoc. So like Aguilar gets in trouble when you can pressure him. I think the Oklahoma defense is going to come to play here. I'm taking the field. It's going to be close though. It's going to be electric.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
If Mattier hadn't got hurt and been playing at a high level, I mean, there's a decent chance. Oklahoma undefeated right now. He kind of. He got injured and then he just turned into a different quarterback. Yeah.
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Mike Florio
And he looked a little healthier last week. They found a run game recently kind.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Of fell apart down the stretch a little bit. Could have been rust, I thought.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, they're hard to rate. I will admit that. Like, I don't know. Like I still. I'm holding them up because I'm giving like I gave him a pass for the Texas game because material obviously shouldn't have been out there and then he was still like recovering. So they're. They're difficult to rip. The Tennessee defense is very bad. They. It does look like they're their best corner. Colton Hood, their only good corner is going to play but they're missing their two respect. Who are going to start Ricky Gibson and Jamal McCoy is probably going to be first from drip. Them played all year because of injury. They really missed them. But you can move the ball in this Tennessee offense. I mean like Kentucky had their quarterback last week at five touchdown passes and they were just. Everyone's moving the ball up and down the field. So I think the difference will be Oklahoma's defense but should be a good game. Vandy, I think wait on it. I do think it'll be lower scoring but this is Vandy's like fourth huge game in a row for a team that's not used to like those efforts. And this is Texas's season at home. But wait on that for Bandix. I do think that Arch will get ruled in and Taff and then it'll probably close up 3 or above. And then what is the other game you asked about? Was that.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Yeah, that was. That's pretty much. I mean the other two I wrote down were USC at Nebraska and Louisville is a pretty big favorite at Vautech with Jeff Braum getting a lot of love.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. But I would love. I think Penn State would do great. Diary Brown. I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in the country. And what he wins more big games than anyone. He has more top five upsets than anybody. That's what Penn State's been missing. He's an amazing game planner, an amazing play caller. You saw that against Miami.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
What's the knock on him? Like not a huge personality, right?
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Mike Florio
Yes. Not a great. Like the recruiting. Like he's going to need to get someone to do that. Like Louisville's been building their teams in the Portal pretty much every year. Which like if you're.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
He's not. He's not Dan Lanning or Ryan Day out there. Like hammer in the pavement.
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Mike Florio
Exactly. And like if you want to be who Penn State wants to be, like Ohio State is not building their team in the Portal every year. Right. Like they're. They're supplementing their team. But the same with Oregon. But the bet. And that's what the best teams are going to be moving forward. The most consistent is that you have.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
A pipeline and you're basically like I'm hiring you to beat Ohio State in Oregon.
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Mike Florio
Yes. Yeah. But I do think it would be.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Or compete or just compete with them, you know.
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Mike Florio
Fair. Yeah. Yes. I mean maybe it's not the best fit for who Penn State wants to be. Like. Yeah. But I do think whoever hires him, he has a great coach. No, I think the line's about right at biotech. USC, Nebraska, no idea. You have Matt Rule, who's 018 against ranked teams. And then you have Lincoln Riley. Maybe he just needs to go to Lincoln. Maybe did his namesake, Lincoln Riley. His teams can't win on the road against anyone with a pulse when they travel east. USC might miss their backs here, but like this Nebraska team has not been that impressive this year. You know, they're bear. They barely pulled out some wins. They got embarrassed at Minnesota. I thought that was a really poor effort. So I don't know. I don't have a bet in either, but we'll certainly be tuned in the. Was there any other game I wanted to mention? Florida.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
This could, this could be a big week. I've gotten deep this week on the message boards, reddits and local podcasts. Oklahoma, their schedule, they could fall apart here. And there's been some buzz that Venables might not be safe and go after the hometown hero Josh Hyple up, make him a big offer. Like there's, there's. And then all of a sudden, if Josh Hypo went to Oklahoma in a couple months, that would mean Tennessee was open. Texas, I don't think that story was just, you know, Diane has been doing this long enough. I don't think she just completely made. Yeah, clearly the Sark thing's a little weird. And you go seven and five and you have an unlimited budget like Ohio State, Texas, they were just never going to tolerate that. So who's to say Vandy, all of a sudden, what if Andy beats him by double digits? Clark Lee, it's like, hey, they hit. Struck oil years ago getting what's his name from North Carolina. More academic, good guy. Would Clark Lee make some sense of Texas? You know, so who's Clark Lee's agent? Jimmy Sexton. So it's like there's a lot going on in the college football world with some of these guys. I mean, I think Clark Lee could really establish himself. Like, hey guys, I'm doing this in the se fucking C. So it's like we're at summer all. And some of these guys, like, it doesn't get any harder than what I'm doing. He could become like one beat a lane. You start rattling off some of the. Because what he's doing is. It's crazier than Signetti because of the teams he's beating now. Like he's just working lsu, you know, it's like that he just, he's just going to work Texas. Like that's where it's. He just wins a game like that against Missouri. That's a slug fest. Like this is pretty crazy. It really is.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. This, this team used to be a complete doormat.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Like literally even Saban's like, okay, I'm just going to change my tune. I've been used to something. It's no longer the case.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, there would be like 28, 351 underdogs in conference play. Like just a complete freebie.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
That's why J. Franklin got Penn State.
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Mike Florio
Right.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
It's like, how did he just do that at Vanderbilt?
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Mike Florio
Yeah, yeah. They used to have home games where like you would, it would be just empty but then sections of the opposing fans basis like it was. So it's good to see like that stadium now packed and juiced by the program. And they, they're putting real money and resources into the program now, now that they have nil because before it was like just an academic institution. They couldn't compete. They weren't paying guys under the table. They couldn't build anything. Now with nil, they're able to do that. And Clarkley has been a huge part of that. Yeah, the coaching carousel is nuts this year. Like where's Lane go? That's going to be a huge domino if he leaves. Do you have Florida, lsu, Arkansas, Penn State? Like South Carolina might be open VA Tech, which is now way down the list.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Like do you think Venables is safe?
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Mike Florio
No. Like there's, there's just no patience now with all the money that's here. Like I don't know where all this money called. It's insane. Like they're just 50 million dollar buyout, like 50s 50 million dollar buyouts. I wish someone would pay me 50 million to go. I know I do this for the love, love of it, but.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
All of a sudden the lacrosse team's not gonna have cleats. You know, they're gonna go in their locker room. It's like that shit's gonna start happening.
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Mike Florio
Yeah. So the coaching carousel is going to be nuts to watch this offseason. I did bet some Florida plus seven and a half against Georgia. You got a new like Napier out. They're gonna, they're changing some things on that offense. The defense is still really good. It'll be healthy this week they were without all their D backs against Mississippi. Mississippi State coming out of the buy. I think that they can get, they can jump on Georgia early and this Georgia defense is, is not your older brother's Dogs like they're outside the top hundred and pressure rate, sac rate. They're not. They don't have a ton of your regular dudes up front so Lagway is going to have time. They have weapons on the outside and Georgia has started slow every game this year. In five SEC games they're, they've trailed by a total of 56 to 10 combined at the end of the first quarter. That's crazy. They had to come back against Ole Miss. They were almost down 17 nothing against Auburn without that blown call. They had to come back against Alabama, they had to come back against Tennessee. They easily could have a couple more losses. Now what you can do if you do bet Florida or even if you don't is if Georgia does go, indeed go down. Look at Georgia live. Kirby Smart, the best in game adjuster in the sport. This happens over and over again where if he's down some adjustments that he makes, he figures out some of the new things that the new wrinkles that Florida is going to be using and then Georgia inevitably comes back. So that's always worth a look. He's. He's won the multiple games this year with his in game adjustments.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Well, looking at the, the odds to win the national championships, obviously Ohio State heavy favorite is A and M a little undervalued at nine to one.
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Mike Florio
I mean I.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
The talent they have on that team is just like, geez Louise, their coaches big time. I'd argue Notre Dame too. I mean they proved last last year, I mean when you have defense, I mean, A and M had three pass rushers that all look like Von Miller. They have abs, they're screaming. I mean when they were screaming at LSU's guys, I could imagine every dude that's ever played for LSU, especially in the last like 25 years, you had to just be embarrassed. You're like, that's what we used to do to people. Now that this guy's barking at our guy and you're like, there's no way that guy's going to block him. And then he couldn't touch him. I mean he barely could touch him. As the guy's coming around the corner like Von Miller. I went, I didn't. I haven't watched that much A and M. But you were like a year early. You liked him to make the playoffs last year in their quarterback situation. This guy is way better than he was last year. And defensively, I mean those pass rushers, holy. Yeah.
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Mike Florio
Cash is hell. He's a player. I mean LSU was also. They were starting like A backup center attack, no shot. It was bad. But I, yeah, I actually think a best team in the sec. I think they're slightly better than Alabama. Like the Alabama defense, like, if you think about it, everyone's like, oh, like Alabama arguably could have lost to Georgia, right? Georgia has a drop that would have won the game. They argue they could have lost at South Carolina last week.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Arguably, they were, they should have.
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Mike Florio
I mean, they got a pick six during that game that just bounced right into their hands like every, they got a fumble late to seal the game against Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt, a couple red zone turnovers, but that game was back and forth. So like, you know, they lost to Florida State earlier this year. It's not a super, it's a very good team. Now this, this year, I think the potentially super elite team is only Ohio State. Indiana might not be too far behind, but I think a team that could potentially, because you're going to need to score, you're going to need a dynamic offense to beat Ohio State. I think Texas A and M is one of the handful that might have that. And they're well coached, they have good special teams. And the most important thing to me is they're elite in the trenches. They have one of the best offensive lines in college football, their defensive line, as you mentioned with how and company they can get after the quarterback. Now there's some deficiencies in the back end, but I trust Elko to continue to improve that defense. He's more hands on this year, but yeah, with that offense, with their running game, their receivers, Concepcion Craver and the way that Reed is playing, if I had to bet one national title future at like current odds, that's probably who I would look at.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
I love Elko too. It's like, you know, you see DeBoer, he clearly, you know, got the, got the old jab to lose some lbs over the last several years and looks way skinnier than he once did. Yeah, Elko is just your classic kind of throwback. I don't give a. I'm eating pizza and Copenhagen and just, and coffee and film. That's I, I, I, I, we don't have enough Elkos roaming around. I mean, look, Ryan Day is like dying his beard. Freeman's never taking a day off the weight room. It's like, I, I, I appreciate Elko.
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Mike Florio
Yeah, he's definitely a throwback. Yeah, his diet is more film, big.
- [113:21]
Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Duck film, pizza, coffee. Okay, Stucky, let's enjoy the weekend and I will talk to you next week.
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Mike Florio
All right, brother. Have a good one. The volume.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
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- [114:03]
Mike Florio
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
And DC 18 and over.
- [114:10]
Mike Florio
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
And then I rinse it out and.
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Mike Florio
I need yummy rinse tonight and I need it more. My kid went through that and the smell never leaves.
- [114:29]
Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
I don't know what to do. I'm always in the dark.
- [114:32]
Mike Florio
The sweat in that short smells like.
- [114:34]
Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
A dark downy rinse fights stubborn odors in just one wash when impossible odors.
- [114:42]
Mike Florio
Get stuck in.
- [114:46]
Katie Couric
On the latest episode of Next Question with Me, Katie Couric I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years, and today he even throws a few questions my way.
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Bernie Sanders
All right, are you ready for another question?
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.
- [115:01]
Katie Couric
We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown. Listen to Next Question with me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Johnny Knoxville here. Check out Crimeless Hillbilly Heist, my new true crime podcast from Smartless Media, Campside Media, and big money players. It's the true story of the almost perfect crime and the nimrods who almost pulled it off.
- [115:30]
Mike Florio
It was kind of like the perfect.
- [115:31]
Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Storm in a sewer. That was dumb.
- [115:34]
Mike Florio
Do not follow my example.
- [115:36]
Dan 'Stuckey' Hanzus
Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Giselle Bryant
This is an iHeart podcast.