3 & Out - Who should be the MVP, What's going on in GB, Belichick to the Giants?

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Herd with Colin Cowherd – 3 & Out

Episode: Who should be the MVP, What's going on in GB, Belichick to the Giants?
Date: November 12, 2025
Host: John Middlekauff (3 & Out is a flagship NFL show under The Volume/iHeart umbrella)

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Overview

This episode is a classic "Mailbag" edition recorded by John Middlekauff after Monday Night Football. John fields questions from listeners on Instagram DMs, diving deep into the NFL's hottest storylines: MVP candidates, what's ailing the Green Bay Packers, the viability of Bill Belichick to the New York Giants, head coach trades, owner involvement, and more. In his signature candid, humorous, and unsparing style, John offers unvarnished opinions and plenty of behind-the-scenes NFL context.

"We had me and Colin every Sunday, we had a Sunday night podcast. We had a Monday night reaction…"
(03:11)

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL MVP Race: Who’s Actually In the Running?

[03:10 – 07:15]

• The listener suggests Drake May (Patriots rookie QB) and Jonathan Taylor (Colts RB) as their MVP frontrunners.
• John discusses the perennially QB-centric nature of the MVP award but acknowledges Jonathan Taylor’s dominance as making him a “Heisman”-style MVP winner if the NFL had one.
  • "If we removed the word MVP and said it's the NFL Heisman Trophy, Jonathan Taylor would win." (04:51)
• Considers other QBs in the mix: Sam Darnold (Seattle), Matthew Stafford (Rams), and the impact of wideout Davante Adams.
  • “Stafford — he's been elite. He looks fantastic. Adding Devante Adams has been huge.” (04:22)
• Patriots fans should feel confident, having moved quickly from Tom Brady to identifying more talented QBs (even referencing Mac Jones’ surprising impact in San Francisco).
  • “You had 20 years of Brady and a couple years later you now have this.” (05:08)
• Ultimately, John says he’d vote for Jonathan Taylor but doubts the NFL will ever switch its MVP thinking away from QBs.

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2. Running Back Hypothetical: Consistency vs. Efficiency

[07:15 – 08:15]

• Listener poses a scenario: Would you rather have a RB who always gets 100 yards per game or any run gets exactly 2 yards per carry?
• John humorously but firmly picks the 100-yard guy, noting 2 ypc is simply not viable and would get a back cut.
  • “If you average 2 yards a carry, you’re going to get cut. I can’t run you four times; you don’t even get me a first down.” (07:36)

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3. Military Appreciation/Folds of Honor Shoutout

[08:16 – 09:46]

• Listener thanks John for giving attention to military causes.
• John shares personal family military history (WWII, Vietnam, and the Folds of Honor guest), emphasizing how much military service means to him.
  • “Where I come from, people like that are considered certified badasses…my dad was pretty old school home. So we had some like Tom Coughlin, like rules, being early is late.” (09:00)

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4. Kalyn DeBoer’s Coaching Star: Most Underrated in College Football?

[09:47 – 11:17]

• Listener submits DeBoer's extraordinary stats at the University of Washington (and previously), such as 8–1 vs. top-10 opponents.
• John is effusive in agreement, praising DeBoer as “kicking ass and taking it.”
  • “You put him and Grub together and you give them a functional quarterback, it’s fucking on like Donkey Kong.” (10:22)
• Notes that DeBoer’s success is even wilder considering the lack of five-star recruits and sustaining excellence when moving to the SEC.
• Points to DeBoer’s preference for QB types and how the right fit elevated his programs.

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5. Should Owners Be More “Hands-On”? (Colts Example)

[11:18 – 14:11]

• Conversation about Colts owner Carlie Irsay-Gordon and her increased sideline involvement raises the question: Do “hands-on” owners help?
• John finds it amusing but mostly inconsequential:
  • “The reason the Colts are winning this year…is they have a good quarterback. She’s not calling the plays. She’s not running practice…” (12:14)
• Good ownership is leaving the actual football to coaches and GMs; winning or losing is a function of finding the right players and making smart coaching decisions.
• Points to the Browns — "For as awful as the Browns have been, if they had Patrick Mahomes, they'd be good." (13:30)
• Uses recent Packers and Cowboys playoff losses to argue: Politics or meddling isn’t why teams lose — it’s the football stuff.

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6. Why Aren’t Coaches Traded More Often?

[14:12 – 16:12]

• Only rare examples: Jon Gruden and Sean Payton.
• The main reason? Teams don’t want to let great coaches leave. Trades usually come when a coach wants out, not because teams are eager to deal them.
  • “If you have Sean Payton or Gruden back in his prime, the team doesn’t want the guy to leave…” (15:03)
• An off-season scenario with Mike Tomlin as a Giants target is floated, but John thinks it’s largely hypothetical.

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7. Possible Coaching Changes: Bills, Falcons, Packers, Giants, and the NFL Coaching Market

[16:13 – 36:00]

• Bills’ Head Coach Dilemma:
  • Sean McDermott has been a strong coach but post–“13 second game” trust is waning. John is reluctant about replacing him with Kevin Stefanski or Brian Daboll.
    • “You cannot fire Sean McDermott for Kevin Stefanski. Like, that just can't happen.” (17:41)
    • Notes that Dayball and McDermott didn’t get along.
  • Cautions that there aren’t strong candidates available in this coaching cycle — especially compared to last year.
• Green Bay Packers’ Coaching Situation:
  • Multiple questions about whether Jeff Hafley, current Packers defensive coordinator, should be promoted if LaFleur is fired.
  • John: “It would be risky. He’s proven good with defense, but head coach is different.” (26:18)
  • Packers historically prefer offensive-leaning head coaches.
• Bill Belichick to Giants — Would It Happen?
  • John says: "Zero percent chance." (32:44)
  • Not just football: off-field drama, including stories about Belichick’s much younger girlfriend, makes him too toxic for Giants ownership.
    • "Giants ain't with that. Bill and his relationship…does not work in the NFL." (34:28)
• Falcons Coaching Carousel and Glaring Shortage of Elite Candidates:
  • Several jobs likely to be open (Steelers, Packers, Giants, Cardinals, Titans).
  • There aren’t many “can’t-miss” options this cycle.
    • “There aren't that many coaches to go around.” (36:22)
• Coordinator Pipeline vs. Previous Years:
  • Unlike previous years (when sharp minds like Ben Johnson were available), this market is much more mediocre.
  • Discusses the randomness of highly touted offensive minds and the risk/reward of cycling through unproven coaches.

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8. Chargers and Justin Herbert: Excuses or Just Bad Luck?

[38:20 – 40:00]

• Tackles the “Justin Herbert gets too much slack” debate: Is it coaching, O-line injuries, or is Herbert just not winning the big games?
• John says context matters: injuries pile up, defenses struggle, coaching chaos.
  • “I just think some of these debates never end until a guy quits…he’s going to get nitpicked, fair or not.” (39:06)

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9. Packers’ Playcalling & Offensive Issues

[45:10 – 48:50]

• Why is Green Bay’s offense so dysfunctional?
  • Listeners note the lack of a quick passing game with Jordan Love under center.
  • John says this ultimately falls on the coach, not the QB:
    • “You can call a play that does not have any go routes or deep posts — you can call four slants, four outs. You’re calling it!” (46:07)
  • Emphasizes that Love is not yet Peyton Manning; LaFleur must better cater the offense to QB’s strengths.

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10. Eagles, NFC Favorites, and the State of the Conference

[45:10 – 46:25]

• Question: Are the Eagles still the top dogs?
  • John praises the Eagles’ defense and playmakers, but says the run game (previously dominant) has taken a step back due to O-line health.
    • “Interior guard-center-guard isn’t as good…But they still got Devonte Smith, AJ Brown, Dallas Goedert.” (45:29)
  • Seattle is a serious threat; predicting playoff outcomes will depend on QB performance and clutch play.
  • Drama (LaFleur, Dayball) is acknowledged as always a big NFL subplot, but games themselves still drive attention in-season.

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11. Who Gets More Frustrated: Packers Fans or Steelers Fans?

[51:55 – 54:56]

• Comparing the current frustrations for both historically strong franchises.
• “Green Bay's had this nucleus…they’re better than the Packers. They curb-stomped the Steelers.”
• Steelers fans at least accept that their talent is lacking; after the “worst losses of the season”, Packers fans are in unfamiliar territory.
  • “How did we just suck overnight? What has happened to us the last couple of weeks?” (54:26)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On MVP Voting:
  "To me, Drake May, his ceiling is the MVP award. I'm just not even talking this season. I'm just saying where you should feel great if you're a Patriot fan..." (05:08)

• On Owners and Winning:
  "If you have good players and good coaches and a good quarterback, you're going to be pretty good, whether the owner's a pain in the ass or not." (13:12)

• On Belichick’s Instability:
  "After the last nine months...I have a very difficult time seeing Giants ownership get in bed with Jordan Hudson." (33:00)

• On Eagles’ Playmakers:
  "They still got Devonte Smith, they still got A.J. Brown, they still got Dallas Goddard. Hell, even last night Saquon had the big play." (45:30)

• On Packers Fans’ Frustrations:
  "This year feels like it's really getting away from them." (54:41)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:01 — Episode intro, mailbag format
• 03:10 – 07:15 — NFL MVP debate
• 08:16 – 09:46 — Military/Folds of Honor personal segment
• 09:47 – 11:17 — Kalyn DeBoer & coaching greatness
• 11:18 – 14:11 — Owners on the sideline
• 14:12 – 16:12 — Why aren't coaches traded?
• 16:13 – 36:00 — Bills/Coaching market/Falcons/Belichick
• 38:20 – 40:00 — Herbert/Chargers “Excuse” segment
• 45:10 – 48:50 — Packers offensive woes
• 45:10 – 46:25 — Are the Eagles still NFC favorites?
• 51:55 – 54:56 — Packers vs. Steelers: Frustration Olympics
• 54:56 – End — Closing thoughts, appreciation for listeners

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Tone & Style

John Middlekauff is opinionated, direct, unfiltered, and often humorous. The tone throughout is that of a knowledgeable insider who doesn’t mince words about NFL decisions, hype, or backroom dynamics.

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This episode is especially valuable for listeners interested in the layers behind coaching changes, the why of NFL MVP biases, what’s infecting great franchises like Green Bay, and how front office drama often pales in comparison to the simple need for better players and smarter playcalling.

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They're a charity that not only advertises here on the podcast, but I started donating too. So mean a lot to me and the show. So check that out. It was on yesterday's podcast. But other than that, you guys know the drill. But first, I got to tell you about my friends. Zone Pouches. This product contains nicotine and nicotine is an addictive chemical. Underage sale is prohibited. And if you're as competitive as I am, you're always looking for something to help you stay dialed in. When I'm watching football, you know I'm using Zone Pouches and you won't catch me without Right now I'm using mint, but typically like Dragon fruit citrus, their flavors are fantastic. Not to mention 20 pouches per can versus the 15 the other guys offer. Choose zone and dominate the day. Use promo code number three and out 20 on nicokick.com let's start with Aiden. As of now, who should be the front runner for NFL mvp. I'm a Patriots fan, so I think Drake May has an argument for it, but I have a hard time looking on how dominant Jonathan Taylor has been for the number one seed in the afc. To me, I think there's a group of guys, you know, I think obviously the quarterbacks Drake May would squarely be in it. Stafford Darnold, I mean, look at the impact Darnold's had on Seattle and their passing game. It's been dramatic. Stafford has. He's been elite. I mean, he has. He looks fantastic. Obviously adding Devonte Adams has been huge. But I'm with you. I mean if, if we removed the word MVP and we said the NFL Heisman Trophy, Jonathan Taylor would win. Right? But I think this MVP award has just become so quarterback centric to me. Drake May, his ceiling is the MVP award. I'm just not even talking this season. I'm just saying where you should feel great if you're a Patriot fan is know that you had 20 years of Brady and a couple years later you now have this. And, and even the guy you drafted, Mac Jones, is single handedly saving the 49ers. Like you guys are on the right quarterbacks. I would say Mike Vrabel would be the Patriots MVP more than Drake. And I'm not trying to diminish anything with Drake May, but I would have him behind Darnold and Stafford. And I'm with you. I would have no problem. Rod and company will probably never give me a vote, but if they did, I would go with Jonathan Taylor. You're the GM of an NFL team. You have to pick a running back. And Here are your two options. One, the guy will get exactly 100 yards every single game. No more, no less. Two, this guy will get you exactly 2 yards every single time he runs the ball. No more, no less. You can run each running back as many times as you want. Who are you choosing? Why take the guy getting me 100 yards? 2 yards doesn't. If you average 2 yards of carry, you're going to get cut. I can't run you four times. You don't even get me a first down. So I don't even think that's. Is that a trick question? Am I dumb? Which I wouldn't consider myself smart. So I feel like I'm being duped here. But I would go with the hundred yard guy, right? If I'm getting 100 yards a game for my running back at 1700 yards a game and hopefully my quarterback's pretty solid, but I'd feel pretty good about my chances there. Feel like you're doing something to me though. I feel like there's a math equation. I don't know. Two yards is not enough. If you said three and a half, I might think differently. Thank you for the Folds of Honor interview. My husband is a former Marine. He flew from California out to D.C. this weekend to tear it up with his buddies of the 250th USMC birthday events, they all go out the Marines about 20 years ago. But their bonds remain strong with so many fewer people being connected to the military these days. I always appreciate it when people highlight. Yeah, it's obviously, you know, both my grandparents. I didn't mention it to the, I mean the president of Folds of Honor who came on the podcast yesterday flew F16s for 30 years. Where I come from, people like that are considered certified badasses. But my, both my grandparents were in World War II. My, my mom's dad flew, was shot down in Asia in World War II. My dad's brother died in Vietnam. So my dad was immediately pulled out. He wasn't actually in Vietnam. I think he was in Germany at the time. But yeah, the military, I mean my dad was pretty old school home. So we had some like Tom Coughlin like rules being early is late. So yeah, I appreciate all you guys and you know, Folds of Honor when they said they were coming on the podcast as a sponsor a long time ago before we had him on felt. Felt right. So military means a lot to me and it will my entire life and I plan on teaching my son the same as well. Wanted to hear your thoughts on Kalyn Dubois. I feel that even after his recent hot streak, he's criminally underrated. The national narrative does not come close to what the guys actually accomplish. I have some stats here I think that will genuinely, genuinely shock you. He's 8 and 1 against top 10 opponents. Best winning percentage in the stat in the history of college football among any coach, past or present. He's 19 and three against top 25 teams. Also the best winning percentage all time. He took a team with zero five star players to the national championship with Washington. Only coach to ever accomplish this in the modern recruiting era. Combined 8.0record against Lanning, Kirby, Sark and Kelly. And finally a 1002017 all time coaching record. You can preach the choir here, brother. Like I, I, I'm on board with Caitlin DeBoer. Like he's, he's good. Like, I mean he's, he's kicking ass and taking it. You put him and Grub together and you give them a functional quarterback, it's fucking on like Donkey Kong. So I, you, you do not need to, you don't sell me on this one. I am on board. Yeah, I got nervous when he lost to Florida State, but I mean he went 9 and 4. Jalen Milroe, like, I just think Jalen Milroe is the complete opposite type of quarterback that he would want. But when he's had guys that are more traditional pocket passers. Penix in Penix at Washington, he had Jake Hayner at at Fresno State and obviously now with Ty Simpson. I don't even know who the hell he had in the Dakotas, but he's beating the you know what out of everybody in his way. And to go to the SEC and do that right, he's beat Kirby back to back years. Brian Kelly at this point is not that big of a but Kirby back to back years, pretty incredible accomplishment. Question for the Bag I've been seeing a lot about the new Colts owner Carly Ursay Gordon standing on the sidelines with a headset during the game and learning the logistics of football in order to effectively operate the franchise. Obviously there are owners like Jerry Jones who meddle to the point of hurting their team, but do you think more owners who are quote unquote, hands off will be inspired by Carley to become better acquainted with the logistics of the game even if the Colts continue to have success moving forward? In your opinion, how involved should a good owner be? The reason the culture good and I'm not People think I'm gonna hate on on her about this. Like, I do think it's funny that she'll be at practice with a Gucci pullover. I just laugh at the visual, even though, like, I'm not offended by her wearing Gucci to practice. But it's like she's rich. I mean, she's a billionaire and she's not, quote unquote, a new owner. She's played a big role as her sisters, like, you know, with her dad. Like, she was born in this family. So the reason the Colts are winning this year and not in previous years is they have a good quarterback. So, like, it's not. She's not doing anything different. I am not. I feel like I'm hating on her. I. I have no, I don't give a shit. I'm not a Colts fan. But they're getting solid quarterback play and now they look headed toward 12 to 14 wins. It has nothing to do with her right now. Maybe she's made some tweaks and marketing and other things that I don't know about, but she's not calling the plays. She's not running practice. Maybe they would say she's given them some ideas that they've instituted. I don't know. But I think it has zero impact. Right. The reason the Cowboys have not won in the playoffs is Dak Prescott has Thrown the ball to the other team. He threw interceptions against the Niners, against the packers in playoff games. It wasn't because Jerry Jones was meddling. So, like, at the end of the day, if you have good players and good coaches and a good quarterback, you're going to be pretty good, whether the owner's a pain in the ass or not. Like, for as awful as the Browns have been, if they had Patrick Mahomes, they'd be good, you know, So I, I just think this isn't that complicated. Obviously, it's easier for the GM and the coach if the owner leaves them alone right in their good. But, like, they win or lose because they pick the right players and they call the right place. The packers lost that game because their offense sucks right now. It has nothing to do with, you know, the new president, right? It was just. That's on Matt LaFleur. He's the play caller even. I saw his press conference. He was like, you know, we need to coach better. But he didn't take all the. He's like, we need to execute better. It's like, matt, the buck stops with you, buddy. I, I'd be careful about. Take it all. It was the first time I was like, guys, this guy taking all the responsibility. Got a. Got a question. When did coaches become a tradable asset and why is it not a more common practice? The only two coaches that I can remember be traded, being traded were Gruden and Peyton. Also, do you think that Gruden would be a fit for Joe Burrow and the Bengals, or do you think they need a defensive coach? Well, Peyton quit, so, you know, Peyton told the Saints, I'm out, and they just traded for him because they're like, you're under contract. You quit on us. You went to do TV and then you wanted to coach someone else because you thought the roster that you played a huge part on sucked and you had no quarterback, which I don't blame him. Doc Rivers has made a career doing stuff like this. But the Saints didn't actively want to trade Sean Payton. He tapped out on them, which is his choice. But Jon Gruden wanted to get money and Al Davis would not pay him. So Al Davis traded Jon Gruden. Typically, if you have Sean Payton or Gruden back in his prime, the team doesn't want the guy to leave. Just like the Saints, they didn't want him to leave. So, like, I'm trying to think of an example the Rams would like. Sean McVay is not available. Why? Because the Rams Want him to be their coach. So I think part of the reason you don't see many coaches traded is because that team typically wants the coach. Now, Mike Tomlin. This off season, could they trade him to the Giants for like a third round pick? Well, if I was the Giants, like, well, then keep him. I dare you to fire him. Well, I'm not trading you anything. So I just think it's a, it's a practice that it's more unrealistic for it to happen than it will ever be considered like common practice. Big Bills fan love McDermott and what he's done for the franchise for almost a decade, but since the 13 second game I've lost confidence. He's proven that in sticky situations he gets too tight, too conservative clock management issues, etc. Assuming he gets relieved of his duties at the conclusion of the year, who do you think would be a good fit? Stefanski. Bring Day Ball back. Wish we could have got the chance to bring in Ben Johnson or Rabel, but can't fire a coach getting the AFC championship game. You cannot fire Sean McDermott for Kevin Stefanski. Like that just can't happen. And I would say the same thing for Day Ball, though he's coached Josh Allen, it's been well reported that those two didn't have a great relationship at the end. Not, not Josh, but I can't speak to Josh's relationship with Day ball. But Sean McDermott and Brian Dabel did not get along. But I don't know how you could coach a guy who's. Or hire a guy who's 20 and 40 and replace him with Sean McDermott. I don't think you can. I'm trying to look up Kevin Stefanski's coaching record. I would have an. I would guess it would be really, really shitty. Yeah, it's not great. He's obviously had two good years with the Browns. One during the Rona season of 2020, then he's 8, 9, 7 and 10. Did have 23 where he went 11, 6 with Flacco. Last two years he's won five games. He's 3 and 14, 24 and he's 2 and 7 this year headed toward three or four wins. So to me, Stefanski is untouchable. I couldn't hire either one of those guys. To me, if you are the owner or I guess if you're going to keep the gm, who I would have to imagine would be in a little trouble too, who are my options? This is the problem with this off season. Like in college, there are a lot of good options, right? There are a lot of proven head coaches. James Franklin's available. Lane's kiffin might be available. You got a bunch of up and comers at different places in the NFL. Last year was the cycle. Even Liam Cohen. I know he just lost the Texans, but pretty good. I've been pretty impressed with Liam Cohen. I I don't want to say he came out of nowhere because I've kind of followed his career since Will Levis in Kentucky. But he's that's a pretty good type guy. Like if Liam Cohen was available, I'd be interested if I was the Bills like last year. But he's not and he was a third best coach of his own cycle. Who are the coaches this cycle? Well, you already got one of them. Joe Brady, Clint Kubiak. I think it's difficult man. Robert Saleh I think it's going to be hard this off season to fire a coach unless you know for sure the individual you're going to get. Because if you're just going to randomly go interview the crew, I don't think it's anything like last year. Today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. We talk a lot of football here on three and out, but there's so much more to bet on. The NBA is obviously in full swing. I was watching Michigan State and Arkansas play basketball. College hoops is back. Even the NHL is rock and rolling. So if you haven't tried your first bet yet on Hard Rock Bet, there's still time for you to get 150 in bonus bets. If you win, just place a five dollar bet and if it hits you, not only get your winnings but an extra 150 in bonus bets. 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Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.

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[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

What our health says about us and the way we're living.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Like our episode where we look at.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.

[Hari Kondabolu]

How preventable is type 2?

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but like you don't even know.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

You don't know.

[Hari Kondabolu]

You don't know.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sad Oligarch Podcast Host]

The Rich Russians Falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad oligarch season two. Since we left you in 2023 after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths, which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious as heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled Media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny Trejo]

Atlanta is a spirit. It's not just a city. I didn't really have an interest in being on air. I kind of was up there to just try and infiltrate the building. It's where Crunk was born. In a club in the West End 4 World Star. It was 55 9, where a tiny bar birthed a generation of rap stars, where preachers go viral and students at the HBCU turned heartbreak into resurrection.

[John Middlekauff]

How do you get people believe in something that's dead?

[Danny Trejo]

Well, dreamers brought Hollywood to the south, and hustlers bring their visions to create black wealth.

[John Middlekauff]

Nobody's rushing into relationships with you. Where are you from? They want to look you in the eye.

[Danny Trejo]

Where the future is nostalgia.

[John Middlekauff]

Talking to Chad GPT she like you.

[Sad Oligarch Podcast Host]

Really the first lady to have a.

[John Middlekauff]

Gangster girls tape in Atlanta, Georgia. Like, that's what separates you from a lot of people. And I was like, you know what? You're right.

[Danny Trejo]

Atlanta doesn't wait for permission. It builds its own spotlight. I'm big rude. Let us guide you through the stories behind Atlanta's most iconic moments. Listen to Atlanta is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Molly Lambert]

Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi the Heidi Fly Story, and I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films. We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our Life. In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined stardom, then left it all behind. I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man. With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Genaworld on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Middlekauff]

Is there a chance if things keep going bad for the packers or they miss get bounced early in the playoffs, that they fire LaFleur, promote Halfley to head coach and just hire a good OC to Run the offense. I think the risky part with that is Halfley is proven he's good with defense. He was good at Ohio State. He became a head coach. Obviously most people don't win at Boston College. Bill o', Brien, who clearly is solid, I think is like one in eight this year at Boston College. Like that might be the worst college job in power four. I wouldn't touch that job with 100 foot pole. So I'm not judging him on being a head coach, but he's never proven that he can be a head coach. He's a great defensive coordinator. I think it would be pretty risky now. I think if you're going to fire lafleur and make him your. Your head coach if they get good. This is. I mean for the most part think about. You had McCarthy forever. Mike Sherman back in the day. Obviously Holmgren, the. The packers have tended to take the Al Davis like we hire offensive coaches. So they typically don't hire defensive guys. Now does Gudiken stay? Is the move just elevate Halfley? Who would you make the offensive coordinator? I would say at this point in time it's definitely on the table. I do think it would have part of life, part of business is sometimes you have to take calculated risks. I don't care what you do. Getting married, investing in the safest stock on the market. There are inherent risk in literally everything. Things that seem this couldn't be any more of a safe move for my life, for my career can blow up in your face. So it would be a calculated risk, but it could backfire because it could be twofold. What the defense gets worse because it's harder for him to focus on the defense being the head coach. And two, he struggles being a head coach right in the NFL. And what if the offense stays the same? So it's like the offense hasn't improved, the defense gets worse, we'd have a major problem. Question for the bag. What do you think of the possibility of Bill Belichick coaching the Giants? Do you think it could happen? I think it's zero percent chance to happen. If you told me a couple years ago that Belichick had been fired, he had taken the year off and the Giants were open, I would say it's on the table. After the last nine months of the stories coming out of the girlfriend, I have a very difficult time seeing Giants ownership get in bed with Jor Jordan Hudson like and let's face it, you get into business with Bill, Jordan is coming around. The Giants ain't with that. I Think Bill and his relationship, which, listen, he's 73. He's sleeping with a 24 year old, probably blowing his mind. So props to him for enjoying life even as he gets old. Right? That does not work, though, in the NFL. I'm not saying that there aren't older coaches doing who knows what on the side. It does not become public. No team wants to deal with that. Hell, North Carolina doesn't want to deal with that. So I, Bill, I listen, I don't know what the record's gonna end up being with North Carolina. If you look at their schedule, they might end up like 7 and 5, potentially 6 and 6. I think if it was completely quiet, the girlfriend never existed. Pablo Torrey wasn't going after Bill and Lombardi and it was just a normal college football. Like, they weren't that good, but they weren't that bad. They went seven and five. It's North Carolina. I, I think it would be on the table, but everything that happened with her, to me makes Bill too toxic. And it's easy to be like, well, look, North Carolina wasn't that good. We're not touching him. He's. He's lost his fastball. Because I think that's what people would say about Pete and Bill. It's like, oh, they're 73, 74, they've lost their fastball. The other guy their age just said, yeah, I'm over this. I'm not doing it anymore. Nick Saban. And look at that clip of Nick at home watching the Chiefs Bills game. He was laying on the La Z boy with the blanket. Like every grandpa in America, he had to be yelled at by his wife to sit up and take a bite of cake, which I totally appreciated. Happy wife, happy life. Big Falcons fan from Ireland. One more mailbag question for you. I appreciate the question might be a few weeks too early, but looking ahead, with Raheem Morris likely to be fired, how many things aren't looking and how things aren't looking great in Green bay for Matt LaFleur, would he be a good fit with the Falcons and more Importantly, Michael Penix Jr. I think he would fix a lot with the current issues of the Falcons offense. There aren't that many coaches to go around. So let's just say I think the Steelers are going to implode. And if the Steelers implode, I do think Mike Tomlin and the Giants make a lot of sense. Well, that would mean. If the packers also implode, that would mean the Steelers and the packers are available, which would be Pretty nuts because one, the Steelers job never opens up and obviously the packers is a very desirable place. Well, if you fire Raheem Morris, like there aren't that many coaches to go around is Mike McCarthy. He's not getting rehired by the Packers. I doubt the Steelers are hiring him. So would Mike McCarthy be in the mix for Atlanta? I do think that LaFleur would definitely be in the mix for Atlanta. You could argue that LaFleur would actually make some sense for Pittsburgh if they wanted to get an offensive coach. Even though the offense right now looks atrocious in Green Bay. I just don't know where all these coaches are coming from. Right. Arizona's in trouble. Those guys might get blown out. Atlanta might get blown out. The Giants and the Titans are already open. So I think I just I fall football. You fall football. Who are taking these jobs? Who are the coordinators worth hiring that you feel good about now? That's just the way it works. But look at last like Ben Johnson was the most anticipated offensive coordinator in a long long time. The guy because you know Sean McVeigh was off and on calling plays and he was not when he was hired to the Rams. I'm guilty. I thought this is crazy. A 31 year old guy to be the head coach. Kevin O' Connell did not call place for Sean McVeigh. You could argue the last super highly touted offensive play caller from Ben Johnson was like Kyle Shanahan. Even LaFlore when he hired was hired for the Packers. I don't even think the Titans offense was that great that year. It was more just based on his pedigree. So Ben Johnson was an elite candidate, Vrabel was an elite candidate and hell even Liam Cohen last year with Baker Mayfield. So I don't know. I think this class is pretty hit or miss to be honest with you. Big fan of the show. My question for the mailbag is as follows. It seems like every year something happens to go wrong with injuries for our team. This year it's no different. Two starting top five tackles are out. Our starting two running backs are out. I understand that wanting to give excuses to Herbert every year but at what point do we just admit I that he's had a series of problems since starting that no other top five quarterback has come close to. From fraudulent coaching to bottom two defenses to now having the worst offensive line in the entire league. Do you think people are over exaggerating how bad Herbert has it or do you think it will finally come together one year and put to put to rest the debate surrounding him. To rest. I. You never know, man. I just think some of these debates never end until a guy quits. Sometimes a narrative or the conversation. Like, what if Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen never won a Super Bowl, Right? I mean, we've been pretty spoiled over the years that most of the guys around Brady won championships like his peers, right? Obviously Peyton, but Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Big Ben Eli, most of the top guys, like, it's kind of Philip Rivers didn't, but most. Carson Palmer didn't, but most of his peers won a championship. So it's hard to. I use this example a lot with Rogers. Rodgers wanted early check the box. He had that over everyone's head. It's like, well, lost again in the playoffs was defensive fault. So however we wanted to poke holes into it. I'm a Super bowl champ, I'm a Super bowl. And he was. So when you check that box early, no one can touch you. You know, as long as Justin Herbert, if they don't make it to a championship game or never make it to the super bowl, he's going to get nitpicked. Fair or not, but I'm with you. You lose your tackles, Becton's been out, your running backs are in shambles. You have a run first coach. You can't call runs, so you got to call passes against the line that can't block anybody. Their defense is pretty good and their coach is good. So I think the Chargers are going to be feisty. I wouldn't. I wouldn't give up on them quite yet to just be a one and done like they were last year. Love the podcast. Have you tried looking at something TV for NFL games that you can watch on Hulu? It may be the most legal stream. It may not be the most legal stream, but it's cheap. I complain about this ESPN YouTube TV thing. Not financially. Like all my TV setups and my different stream. This is all part. Like, this is my business intertwined in my life. So anything that I'm complaining about, it's why I've tried not to complain about the ESPN YouTube situation. I'm not mad that I necessarily have to pay for another thing. It's part of the deal. It's what I do for a living. I watch TV for a living, so I don't complain. Like, I'm not digging ditches. I'm not up there in the heat. I've worked construction, I've worked on the ranch. My job is a piece of cake in terms of the pressure on me. On a daily basis, right? So if the biggest, my biggest issue is having to upgrade my Hulu subscription, like, nobody wants to hear that. My issue has just been with the principle of, like, this sucks. So I'm not worried about having to give 10 more dollars for Hulu. It just pisses me off that we're at this point partly because I love YouTube TV. Like, I am a legit. I'm a consumer first before I've ever done any of this, going back to when I was 10, 15, 20 years old, through college. I am a consumer and I will consume the best stuff. And YouTube TV, I, I swear by it. And I've had DirecTV, I've had different cable packages. I love YouTube TV, swear by it. So when you just make it difficult on me. And to me it's like on Saturdays. So now if I want to watch the games on ABC or ESPN on college football, I have to sign out and sign into something else. Where some of the other good games are on Fox where I could put four boxes together. I can go back and forth. It just makes it again all, relatively speaking, a pain in my ass. I haven't used illegal stream since I was probably at Fresno State and I was streaming Dexter, which is still one of my. The first couple of seasons of Dexter is one of my favorite seasons of all time. I used to love in a good illegal stream though, especially in the Internet when it was like buffer back in the day when probably Internet speeds were pretty slow. Before we dive into the next question, I do need to tell you about my friends, my partners and the official ticketing app of this podcast, Game time. Best in the business. Doesn't get any better. Do you guys want to go to a football game? We only got a couple months left. We got college football playoffs, we got NFL regular season, we got NFL playoffs. And if you want to go to one of these games, they got flash deals. They got tickets as cheap as $100. 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[Katie Couric]

On the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders, who is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.

[John Middlekauff]

Denver, 34,000 people come out. Salt Lake City, 20,000 people. You know, huge turnouts. People are really dissatisfied about the status quo.

[Katie Couric]

His Fighting Oligarchy tour with AOC and other young progressives has become a movement. But is his message too far to the left? Well, he certainly doesn't think so.

[John Middlekauff]

Does that sound like a radical idea, Katie? Is that too far left for you?

[Katie Couric]

Okay, okay, I get your point, Bernie. We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course the government shutdown, not to mention the current state of the Democratic Party.

[John Middlekauff]

To me, the failure of the Democratic Party has been an unwillingness to recognize the real issues.

[Katie Couric]

Open your free iHeartRadio app search next Question with Katie Couric and listen. Now.

[Hari Kondabolu]

On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician.

[Hari Kondabolu]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Talking about health in a different way.

[Hari Kondabolu]

It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

What our health says about us and the way we're living.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Like our episode where we look at.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.

[Hari Kondabolu]

How preventable is type 2?

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but like, you don't even know.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

You don't know.

[Hari Kondabolu]

You don't know.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sad Oligarch Podcast Host]

The Rich Russians Falling out of Windows podcast is back. Sad Oligarch Season 2 Since we left you in 2023, after season one, many politically motivated Russian millionaires have continued to die in suspicious circumstances. We dig deeper into these odd deaths, which include everything from mushroom poisoning and mysterious heart attacks to window clumsiness and suicide by decapitation. One thing we have found since we started back in 2022 is the information on the stage Suspicious deaths has become much harder to find. Not just that, it seems as if state controlled media in Russia is being utilized to purposely confuse and contradict the reporting that gets put out. As you can probably imagine, season two gets very weird. Listen to Sad Oligarch on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Molly Lambert]

Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert, host of Heidi the Heidi Fly Story and I'll be your tour guide on a wild ride through adult films. We get paid more than the men, we call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our Life. In the 1990s, actress Jenna Jameson crossed over into mainstream culture, redefined stardom, then left it all behind. I'm a powerful woman. I think that's intimidating to a man. With a cast of hundreds of actors and comedians playing key figures, we'll take a look at how adult films became legal in the 70s, hugely profitable in the 80s and 90s, and fell off a financial cliff in the 2000s. Listen to Genaworld on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast casts.

[Danny Trejo]

Welcome fellow seekers of the dark. I'm Danny Trejo. Won't you join me in Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows, an anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends and lore of Latin America. Take a trip from ghastly encounters with evil, see spirits to bone chilling brushes with supernatural creatures and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of my Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[John Middlekauff]

Question the Eagles, Considering their schedule thus far and being 7 and 2, are they still the top dogs in the NFC? They've beaten the Rams, Bucks and and the Packers. Last night was pretty impressive defensively, right? Offensively they have not been like 2024 because they can't run the ball. Their Saquon is it's not even his fault. They used to have gaping holes. Last year Becton was, was a monster. You know Dickerson, my lotta lane Johnson's been in and out of games. I feel like every other game I watch someone rolls up on his knee, someone falls on his ankle. I I just think interior their guard center guard is not as good as it has been in the past, but they still got Devonte Smith, they still got A.J. brown, they still got Dallas Goddard. Hell, even last night Saquon had the big play on the pass. So offensively on any given moment they can have, they can score from any position. Jalen can bust a big run, obviously the Tush push, but if their defense is going to play like that, the pass rush, Jalen Carter looked good, Jalen Phillips looked good. Jalen Hunt looked like a monster. Mitchell's probably, besides Stingley, the best young corner in the league. I think they have a good chance as any. When the playoffs come, it's like, okay, I like the Seattle Seahawks a lot as of the day, I'd probably pick them to win the nfc. But there's going to be a ton of pressure on Sam this week against the Rams moving forward in these games and obviously in the playoff spots. So Jalen's two best games of his career came in the Super Bowl. LaFleur drawing up plays on the water cooler while the defense is on the field, Dayball in the blue tent, poking his head in the Parsons trade. I feel like the off field drama is outweighing the on the field thoughts. Yeah, I mean, I think it's part of the deal. I mean this is this entertainment, this reality television show. These are billion dollar teams. These are very famous players that have big personalities. These are owners with big personalities, coaches with big personalities. It's kind of always been like this. I do think social media magnifies it a little bit and you know, pulls at our emotion with the clips probably more than it used to happen, but I don't know. I, I think once the season starts, the games, the transactions, which are a big part of the sport, right? Cutting guys, trading guys, benching guys, it's all part of the deal. I think the off the field drama is much bigger February, March, April, free agency in the draft than it is during the season. So I think it's no different than years past. Okay, a couple more questions. Just got done watching the snooze fest that was Monday Night Football. It occurred to me the packers don't seem to have any type of quick passing game. Even with love under center or love under pressure. Most of the night seems like they go super deep drop backs and long developing routes down the field. That paired with the lack of run game seems to be a problem. I think love is a great player and obviously super talented throwing the ball. But every. But even during the peak Mahomes year You could always count on a ton of hitches, ball out screens and quick routes like slants. Do you think there's a problem that Matt LaFleur's offense or a Jordan Love problem like he's opting for down the field reads and not taking the quick stuff? Well, you can call a play that does not have any go routes or deep posts like you can call force lance or four outs like you can manipulate the offense. You're calling it. He runs what you call. This is ultimately in situations like this can turn into a dictatorship. You call the plays, he runs the place. He's not Peyton Manning. He doesn't get full reign out there if you don't want him to have it. So I think what they would say is the talent outside. I mean Christian Watson is a deep ball guy. He's one of the fastest guys in the league. So when he's going to be on the field they're going to want to press the envelope down the field. But Wick's got to catch the ball. But Dobbs can kind of do it all. They're missing Kraft which is a huge blow. You know, Jacobs should be a massive addition in the screen game. But yeah, I mean I, I would put it more on the coach than the quarterback because you're allowed to call whatever play you want. It's your fucking offense. So I have a hard time blaming Love for the constant down the field throws. Another question about Halfley. Like I said, I, I'd be a little surprised if that happened. Unless they are just smitten with Jeff Halfley in the building. I, I think that would take some balls to make that move. I love your pod. Been watching for 2 years now. I watch every episode. I'm kind of getting tired of LaFleur not opening up his playbook to his quarterback and it's costing us games. It's safe to say with his contract expiring and him coaching for his job for the remainder of the year. I don't really have a question but just a thought. It would be idiotic for Clint Kubiak to pass up this job. Clint Kubiak's not any of these coordinators. If lafleur gets fired, would accept that job yesterday. Every single coordinator in the league, every offensive coordinator and every defensive coordinator obviously, including the packers defensive coordinator. So if LaFleur is fired, the coordinators around the NFL will be lined up for the packers job. Let me repeat, lined up. They would take the packers job over the Giants job over the Titans job over the Cardinals job It will be the number one job on the market. It's one of the most prestigious jobs in American sports. So LaFleur, I'm sure will do everything in his power to defend his territory and not give up that seat in that office because it's probably not quite as desirable as it was when he took over with Rogers. But remember Rogers kind of struggling then. I just think assuming Gudekins would stay, I think it would be very, very desirable. And I think Kubiak and you can name any offensive coordinator and my guess is they would go offense. Could they bring back McCarthy or is that ship sailed? That'd be sick. Mike's like, hey, Guda kins. I watched every single snap of you guys on film. Then he gets hired. He's like, actually, I just watched a couple of games on TV that was a joke based on Mike saying that he watched all the Cowboys games when he didn't and then he admitted it. Would you be more furious as a Packer fan or a Steeler fan at your team's coaching, given what both teams have? Green Bay, I mean, Green Bay's had this nucleus of guys they trade for Parsons. They've been right there. They're better than the Pack. I mean, we just saw him play the Steelers. They curb stomped. They are dramatically better in Pittsburgh. I think Steeler fans can acknowledge this. We're not that good. We have a 41 year old quarterback that doesn't want to get hit. We have one wide receiver who's built like a Greek God, who's pretty average for what he should be. Again, he's good, but we gave a second. We gave him $150 million. He's probably like a 2, definitely a 1B. We have no other wide receivers. We got 10 tight ends. Our best running back should be a second, you know, a number two. Our defense is very overrated. Like the Packers, Like I said last night, it was the first time where I went, I get it. Like if I'm a Packer fan, I get it. This is embarrassed. Like, what is going on? How is this happening? What is going on? And the answer is no one really knows. Like, how did we just suck overnight? What has happened to us the last couple of weeks? How have we lost to the Browns? How have we lost the Panthers? How did we lose a game when The Eagles scored 10 points in Lambo? It's one thing, it's like, hey man, you just lost to the the Philadelphia Eagles 27 to 20. It's like we had an awful interception the second, second half. Like you could live with it. It would suck. They scored 10 points, I repeat, 10 points. And not only did you lose like you were behind the whole time, it felt like you were. Your back was against the ropes the entire time. In a 00 game, in a 7 nothing game. Like, how did that happen? At one point in time, it's 10 nothing. It felt like it was 30 to nothing. So I would say, listen, the Steelers got their ass kicked on Sunday Night Football. I saw Joe Flacco light him up like a Christmas tree, like Green Bay. And listen, maybe I'm biased because I bet on them to make the super bowl, but I thought it was legitimate. They went 15 last year in the division. They add Parsons now they've got some injuries going right now, but that loss last night was every bit as bad as the loss to the Panthers. And that was probably the worst loss of the season going back to the Browns game, which probably at the time was the worst loss of the season. So the Backers, they tied the Cowboys, I don't know, man. I think the Packers, I'm not a Packer fan, but because as a kid the 49ers played the packers all the time, I've just, I loved farve. I've. When I had my first year in Philadelphia, we played the packers twice. The first game of the season, Clay Matthews knocked out Kevin Cobb. Michael Vick came in, played him again in the playoffs. Ever since I've been doing this, I got in radio, the 49ers were playing the packers and Kaepernick was lighting them up. I, I feel like I've seen them live so many times over the years. I feel like I followed their team as closely as any team that is not like, you know, a Bay Area team. And this, this year feels like it's really getting away from them. I appreciate everyone watching. Have a great day. Talk to you soon.

[Molly Lambert]

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[John Middlekauff]

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[Katie Couric]

More details on the latest episode of Next Question with me, Katie Couric. I sat down with Bernie Sanders. We've talked many times over the years and today he even throws a few questions my way.

[John Middlekauff]

All right, are you ready for another question? Go ahead, hit me, Bernie.

[Katie Couric]

We talk about the billionaire class, the cost of living, and of course, the government shutdown. Listen to next question. With me, Katie Couric on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Hari Kondabolu]

On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

I'm Dr. Priyanka Wali, a double board certified physician.

[Hari Kondabolu]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am and on our show we're talking about health in a different way. Like our episode where we look at.

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.

[Hari Kondabolu]

How preventable is type 2?

[Dr. Priyanka Wali]

Extremely. Listen to Health Stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny Trejo]

Join me, Danny Trejo in Nocturnal Tales from the the Shadows, an anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends and lore of Latin America. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the shadows on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Molly Lambert]

Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film street. I'm Molly Lambert and I'll be your tour guide on a wild trip through adult films. We get paid more than the men. We call the shots. In what way is that degrading? That's us taking hold of our life. Listen to Gentle world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Katie Couric]

This is an iHeart podcast.